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A: adults, that is, can't even read.
A: And, and we've got the lowest rates of the civilized countries in science and math.
B: Yeah.
A: I mean, what are we, what are we becoming?
A: We're becoming a service country.
B: As opposed to what we were twenty years ago.
A: Yeah,
A: we were an industrial giant,
A: and now we're we're not going to do it because everybody is beating us at the game.
A: We taught them how to do it,
A: and they, they did it better than we do.
B: Yeah
A: Simple as that.
B: because they have the ambition, I guess.
A: yeah,
A: simple as that.
B: Yeah,
B: which is good for them,
B: but on the other hand, we kind of lose out.
A: Yeah,
A: it's terrible for us.
B: I think that if, uh, young people had service to the country might give them more ambition. Because they learn that serving other people is a good thing.
A: Yeah.
A: Yeah,
A: and, and it can be good for them, too.
B: Yeah,
B: oh yeah.
A: I mean, even, even the greedy kids that we've got now ...
B: Oh god, you go to the mall
B: and you see, you know, fourteen year old kids flaunting money, because the parents give them money to go down and play video games all night, you know
A: I know.
B: for what.
A: I know.
B: Give me the money
B: and I'll, I'll teach them something good
A: Well, you know, you know why they do it is so they can get them out of the house.
B: Yeah.
A: Yeah,
A: uh, that's my other complaint.
A: Parents aren't parents any more.
B: No.
B: They've, they've relinquished their parenting.
A: Yeah.
A: One of the other subjects is do you think the public school systems are in trouble?
B: Yeah.
A: Well, as a substitute teacher for a year, I, I can say yes.
B: Yeah,
B: I mean, I talked with somebody else about that another time,
B: and, you know, when I's in graduate school working on my master's degree in math, I was, uh, teaching as part of my, part of the program.
B: And I just love teaching.
B: That was a lot, that's probably the most fun I had.
B: And, uh, it helped me out because I learned things and learned how to do things differently.
A: Yeah.
A: Uh-huh.
B: And when, uh, when come time to get out of school, I thought, Boy, I'd like to teach.
B: But you know, for, for what.
A: Yeah.
B: You know, I don't want to live in a little one bedroom apartment the rest of my life.
A: Exactly.
B: I mean, that, that's a sad thing to think,
B: and that's kind of selfish on my part,
B: and I admit that,
A: Well, in a way it is,
A: but you have to look out for yourself you know,
B: Yeah,
B: that's right.
A: I mean, that's
A: and when we pay garbage men more than we pay teachers,
B: That's wrong.
A: Yeah,
A: gosh,
A: I mean,
B: I'm not saying that garbage men should be paid less,
B: I saying teachers should be paid more.
A: No,
A: I mean yeah.
A: They do an absolutely necessary job,
A: I mean, I, I have a great deal of admiration for these people who can go out there and do that.
B: Yeah.
A: But, uh, I mean, there's, there's a sense of priorities here, too.
B: Yeah.
A: You know, we need,
A: what's more important, picking up the garbage or educating our kids.
B: Yeah
B: They both have their place.
A: Yeah,
A: they, they,
A: sure.
B: But, you know, when it gets right down to it,
A: I mean, one's
A: I mean, on the other hand, I mean, you take a garbage man in New York City starts out at twenty-six thousand dollars.
B: That's pretty good.
A: Well I bet you there's a whole bunch of homeless people up there who would take that job for thirteen thousand dollars a year.
B: Yeah.
A: I mean, my other pet peeve is unions.
B: Yeah,
B: oh yeah.
A: You know, it's just, it's, it's ridiculous the way unions have gone.
A: There was a time when unions were needed.
B: And they served a good function.