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Jerry Seger: Good to see you all again. Let's see if that comes up. This is our functional design meeting. Um. Just a sec while my PowerPoint comes up. Et voila. Okay. Mm um we put the fashion in electronics. Let's start. Okay, our agenda today um just check the time, it's twelve thirteen. Um. I'm gonna do an opening, talk about um did you all get the minutes? I e-mailed them to you. I'm also Walter Zander: Yep. Jerry Seger: putting 'em them in the shared folder. So Thomas Stewart: Right. Jerry Seger: um then I we'll talk about our general objectives and have your three presentations. Um I'll talk about the new project requirements I've just received, and then we have to make a decision on our remote control functions. Finally we'll just close. We're starting this meeting at approximately twelve thirteen and we have forty minutes. So First of all the functional design objectives. Uh we need to keep in mind the user requirement specification, what needs and desires are to be fulfilled, the functions design, what effects the apparatus should have, and the working design, how the apparatus actually works to fulfil its function. Okay, three presentations, um you can go in any order you choose um. Freddy Holtz: Mm shall we go in the that you just did it? Jerry Seger: Sure, please do. Freddy Holtz: I dunno. How do I hook my screen up? Thomas Stewart: I think you might have to disconnect. Jerry Seger: Yes I do. Jerry Seger: Yeah. Walter Zander: Well there's a wee Freddy Holtz: Where Walter Zander: a Freddy Holtz: does Walter Zander: wee Freddy Holtz: it go? Walter Zander: plug just Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: that one there Freddy Holtz: Hmm, I'm not supposed to move this, but Walter Zander: Ah that's it, yep. Walter Zander: And then you have to press function F_ eight I Jerry Seger: Function, Walter Zander: think it Jerry Seger: F_ Walter Zander: is Jerry Seger: eight, Walter Zander: on Jerry Seger: yeah. Walter Zander: your laptop. Freddy Holtz: Where's Jerry Seger: The Freddy Holtz: function? Jerry Seger: blue one, F_N_. Freddy Holtz: No signal. Jerry Seger: Is it plugged in all the way and you screwed it in and Freddy Holtz: Ah, Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: wait, 's screw in. Thomas Stewart: I I Freddy Holtz: Push Thomas Stewart: think Freddy Holtz: the screw. Thomas Stewart: you just have to push it in really hard. Walter Zander: That's it. Thomas Stewart: Oh, got it. Jerry Seger: Mm 'kay. Freddy Holtz: Mm alright Jerry Seger: It's taking it a little bit Freddy Holtz: I've never attached to anything. Thomas Stewart: Mm, neither have I. Jerry Seger: 'Kay there you go. Freddy Holtz: Alright, Thomas Stewart: Alright. Freddy Holtz: so, I don't know if you guys are able to get access to um the report that was online or if I'm the only who is. But, I don't even know how to play this. No. Jerry Seger: Press the little presentation. It's the um it looks like a Y_ kind of over there above Draw. There, that one, there you Freddy Holtz: Alright. Jerry Seger: go. Freddy Holtz: So we're just gonna talk a little bit about the functional requirements that people specified when they were asked. Um I guess Real Reaction did some market research. They had a hundred subjects and their usability lab and they watched them watch T_V_ and recorded the frequency that they used particular buttons and the relevance that those buttons had. What they found was they analysed people's desires and needs. Focusing on their desires, um people specifically said that they thought remotes were ugly, seventy five per cent of the a hundred subjects noted that and that they more importantly though, eighty per cent said that they would be willing to pay more for a fancier looking remote. I don't know anything Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Freddy Holtz: beyond what fancy means, but that's particularly of use to us, I think. Um also they did some questions on voice recognition and found that the desire for voice recognition was inversely related to age, so younger people were more inclined to want something with voice recognition, whereas the older people in the like sixty and above segment or so did not really think that they would pay more money for voice recognitions. Um Thomas Stewart: 'Kay. Freddy Holtz: people also had certain frustrations, that I think that we could try to take into consideration with our design. That being people k um frustrated with losing their remotes. I think, over fifty percent of the people mentioned that that was their biggest frustration. People are also frustrated with the difficulty it is to learn how to use a remote and I think that ties back to what you were saying before Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Freddy Holtz: just that there's too many buttons, it just needs to be easy to use. It also mentioned something called R_S_I_ and I was hoping someone might be able to inform Freddy Holtz as to what R_S_I_ is, because Walter Zander: Repetitive Freddy Holtz: I don't know. Walter Zander: strain injury. Freddy Holtz: What? Walter Zander: Repetitive strain injury. Freddy Holtz: Ah. There we go. Wow. Walter Zander: So Freddy Holtz: People Walter Zander: if Freddy Holtz: do Walter Zander: you Freddy Holtz: not like that. So I guess sort of the carpal tunnel type thing, people do not like that, um the repetitive use, I guess, caused a strain. Um looking at the needs people specified, the problem right now is that people's remotes are not matching their operating behaviour. People are only using ten per cent of the buttons that they have offered to them on their remote. And what people do most often is changing the channel and changing the volume. People also zap like to change the channel, about um sixty five per cent during an hour of use. So we really just need to focus in on those volumes and channel changers rather than things like the audio settings, the screen settings and the channel settings, because they're used much more infrequently and probably just complicate what's going on. So I think that some things that we might wanna think about, the idea of an L_C_D_ screen was brought up although they didn't have any details on what people's preferences on that were, so I dunno know if that's coming to Freddy Holtz later, or something like that. But something for us to consider also just the phenomenon that less is more when it comes to the buttons on the remote or what we wanna make easiest to use, make sure that, you know, something like an audio setting isn't given as much importance and visibility on the remote as something like channel changing that's used a lot more often. And basically in order for us to win over to the consumer we just need to focus on what it looks like, that it has a fancy appeal and that it's not ugly and that it feels like the way they're gonna use it, so it doesn't give them any hand injuries or things like that. Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Jerry Seger: Thank you very much. That was that was great. Thomas Stewart: Mm 'kay. Jerry Seger: Um 's move on to the next presentation um on effects. Was that Freddy Holtz: Hmm. Jerry Seger: you? Great. Freddy Holtz: Yeah, have I unscrewed it? Jerry Seger: Push. User interface, right. Interface. Freddy Holtz: Here we go. Walter Zander: Cheers. Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. And I think that's in the shared, if I did it right, if anyone wants to look at Jerry Seger: Mm Freddy Holtz: it. Thomas Stewart: Okay, Jerry Seger: 'kay, thank you. Thomas Stewart: great. Jerry Seger: Okay. Walter Zander: Here we go. Right so I'm gonna talk about the technical technical functions design of the remote control um. We need to start by considering what a remote control actually is. It's a device that allows us produce certain effects on, so i it's basically a communication device. We we tell the remote control what we want to do, it sends a message to the television saying change the channel, change the volume, uh yeah, adjust these settings, adjust the brightness. Um how do we actually go about designing a new television remote control? First thing to do is to come up with the design specifications. We need to know what our final product is gonna be like, so we need a a clear idea of exactly what this product does, uh how it works, and what the end-user is gonna want from this product. Um. Oh, a way I'd suggest that we could go about this is by designing uh several different prototypes of user interfaces for this product, um and then uh trying to get some feedback uh about h how well these particular prototypes work, uh sorta find out what people think of 'em. Um using a remote control is is quite a subjective experience. Um, Jerry Seger: Hmm. Walter Zander: and different different people sort of prefer different things. Um we should remember that remote controls are a a fairly standard piece of equipment. When a users using a remote control, he or she expects the buttons to be in certain places. So in some sense we're gonna we're gonna have to aim for a device which is fairly conventional in design uh so that we're not completely shocking people. But I think within that there is also room for us to introduce novel ideas uh and to make something that's that's perhaps a little bit different, something that stands out. Um also in in designing the user interface we need to consider practicalities. Uh the first of these is is technological ye uh what can we do with the current state of technology as it is. The second is is economic, uh we need to find a balance between features and price. So as you mentioned things like voice recognition would would add to the price uh but it would also im Jerry Seger: Hmm. Walter Zander: improve the design of the product. So I had a look on the on the web uh to see if I could find a few examples of existing television remote controls. In analysing these we can consider what what things what's good about them, uh what things do they get right, what's bad about them, what's wrong with 'em, um how we can improve on the designs that that that I found and what can we do to make our product stand out from from the large majority of remote controls. Here's two examples uh probably at the extreme ends of the spectrum. Um on the left here we've got uh an engineering-based design for a remote control, so it's one that's got lots of buttons, it's it's fully featured, everything you might possibly want to do is there, you know, it's got forward, backwards, up, down, channel numbers, volume, uh freeze frame. Yeah, it's it's fully featured and it might take a while to get to learn to use it, but once you've learned it you can you can do whatever you want with your T_V_. The one on the right is a lot more basic. It's just got the essential functions of the T_V_ changing the channel, play, stop, volume. It would be a lot quicker to learn to use it, but again th it's it's swings and roundabouts. There are disadvantages, you can't use it say to to freeze the television picture. Uh there's a lot of features that are missing from that remote control. So we've got to to find our find a way of striking a balance between the two. Um as I said before, remote controls are subjective, different people want want different things. Um personally wa what I want from a remote control is a device that's simple, it it's easy to use, uh it's got big buttons for doing the things I do most often, changing the volume, changing the channel. It it does everything that I need it to uh, as I said before, I'm quite lazy, I don't wanna walk across the room just to adjust my television. I also want something that that looks cool, um and that that feels good, that's ergonomically designed. Jerry Seger: Mm 'kay. Thank you very much. That was very useful. It's funny to see the drastic difference between those two remotes. Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Jerry Seger: Um. And neither of them were very pretty, you know? Freddy Holtz: No. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. I think that could be our selling point. Jerry Seger: Mm. Freddy Holtz: A fashion fashion remote. Walter Zander: I Thomas Stewart: Right. Walter Zander: think there's there's certainly a market for technology that looks cool. Jerry Seger: Mm. Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: And I think that's that's why companies like Apple've 've 've Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Walter Zander: made Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Walter Zander: a lot of progress. Thomas Stewart: Right, I really can't see what I'm doing, so does anyone have a Jerry Seger: You there it is. Thomas Stewart: Ah-ha, look at that, showing up already. Jerry Seger: Lovely. Freddy Holtz: So wait, did it let you go on the Internet or was that just what it let you see? Walter Zander: Uh that was just on the d on Freddy Holtz: Okay. Walter Zander: the company web site, yeah. Freddy Holtz: 'Cause I was like Jerry Seger: Hmm. Thomas Stewart: Yeah Freddy Holtz: googling and then I'm like wait it won't let Freddy Holtz google. Thomas Stewart: Alright um No, how do I play again? Jerry Seger: Um the it's right above Draw. There are three thingy if it's way at the bottom. Thomas Stewart: Ah. Jerry Seger: Under three icons and it's the one that looks like a desk. Yeah, that one. There are Thomas Stewart: Okay. Jerry Seger: Y_s. Thomas Stewart: So this is our working design presentation. Um I had a bit of some issues with this, because I wasn't able to find everything I needed, but I guess that's we're still in early stages. Um so, yeah, this is this. Though th the thing about working design is the what we're trying to do as a working design is figure out how the aparata apparatus can fulfil its function. Um one of the examples that kept coming up for Freddy Holtz is that a coffee grinder. It works because it converts electrical energy to grinding the beans and then you put the bean through a filter and that filters out, and then you get coffee at the end that's nice and hot because of the combination of electrical energy and then the other things that are brought in to make it work. Don't know if I'm explaining that very well, but how do I get to the next s ah. So h the method as um working designers figure out what you need to make it fulfil this practical function, what what needs to be done and how do we convert all the elements to make that done. So wha the easiest thing to do is to break down all the points at which you need something to happen. So you make a schematic of the way that the the energy is converted tsh towards this practical function. And then I think the easiest thing to do is gonna be work on each task separately. So um Uh. Jerry Seger: You just press yeah, just Thomas Stewart: Uh. Jerry Seger: click. That'll be fine. Thomas Stewart: So the findings that I got uh very just very briefly is that you have a choice of the way that the information is projected to the receiver and in my opinion infra-red is the best way to do that 'cause you don't need a sight line. So that's one thing we're gonna work on. Um the user interface is critical here, because a lot of the things that happen in a remote control happen through the chip that controls that converts the electrical energy into data, which then goes through the infra-red, so the the chip that uh I think Ian is designing, is gonna be crucial. And really it all comes down to the to the user, because they're the one that's controlling most of the working design. So the components that we find here are the energy source, you know the battery or whatever that's gonna m make it work, then the chip, which converts the data, the user that's controlling the chip, and the infra-red bulb that's gonna let us move the data to the receiver. So you have four main components and they are designed sort of like this. You have your energy source right there which then um brings uh energy or information to the chip, which is also controlled by the users. You have energy going to the user who's controlling the chip ooh 's not what I wanted to do uh uh. Jerry Seger: Um yeah use that thing you can go back, previous. Thomas Stewart: Previous. Sorry about that, guys. Jerry Seger: Pardon. Thomas Stewart: Oh. Jerry Seger: Oh, Thomas Stewart: No, no, Jerry Seger: well. Thomas Stewart: no, no, no. Jerry Seger: Okay. Thomas Stewart: Okay, let's just get back to my schematic here. Jerry Seger: Ye Double click on it. With the right with the left Thomas Stewart: W Jerry Seger: hand one. Thomas Stewart: yeah, yeah. I think it's frozen. Here. Don't show Freddy Holtz that tip again. Jerry Seger: There we Thomas Stewart: There we are. Jerry Seger: are. Thomas Stewart: Sorry about this, guys. I'm kind of pathetic with things like this. Um alright. So you have your energy source, your user interface who's controlling the chip, the chip also uses the energy, and the chip through the use of the user interface is gonna control the switch which will work your infra-red bulb, which will then bring the data to the receiver. So hopefully that makes sense for everyone in my kind of garbled way. This Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: is the the parts of the working design that need to be figured out. And personal preferences, besides the fact that I can't spell, we need a long-lasting energy source, people don't wanna be changing it a lot. We need a chip that works well with the user interface, that isn't too complicated. We need a straightforward interface, like Ian was saying, simple, not overwhelming it with information and we need a reliable and clear infra-red signal, so that you're not waving your remote around and Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: having to get frustrated and go do it by hands. So that's pretty much it for the working design. Jerry Seger: Excellent. Jerry Seger: So, um. Thomas Stewart: Rose, do you think you can give Freddy Holtz a hand with this? Jerry Seger: Yes, absolutely. Jerry Seger: Ah I can never tell which way to turn these things. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Lefty loosey, righty tighty, right? Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Walter Zander: What's up? Lefty Jerry Seger: Lefty loosey, Walter Zander: loosey. Jerry Seger: righty tighty. Walter Zander: Uh. Never heard that before, that's good. Jerry Seger: Oh yes. Walter Zander: I'll think of that every time now. Thomas Stewart: It's Freddy Holtz: Yeah, Thomas Stewart: gonna Freddy Holtz: that's Thomas Stewart: stick Freddy Holtz: a good Thomas Stewart: in your Freddy Holtz: one it'll Thomas Stewart: head. Freddy Holtz: stick with you. Jerry Seger: Mm 'kay. Jerry Seger: Um I have nothing on my screen. Just a sec. Thomas Stewart: Mm. Jerry Seger: Here we are. Thomas Stewart: Ooh, no signal. Jerry Seger: Okay, yeah, it's fine. Okay, requirements. We have a couple new requirements that I was just e-mailed right before the meeting and Thomas Stewart: Okay. Jerry Seger: that we have to keep in in um in mind as we're creating this. We didn't bring it up yet, or at all in the meetings so far, but we're not gonna work with teletext because um well it that's been taken over by the internet, so we're not gonna worry about um we're not gonna worry about that. Freddy Holtz: What's teletext? Jerry Seger: Um. Thomas Stewart: Uh, it's a British thing. Freddy Holtz: Oh. Walter Zander: You don't Freddy Holtz: Oh, Walter Zander: have Freddy Holtz: so Walter Zander: it in the States? Thomas Stewart: No. Jerry Seger: It no. W d Walter Zander: Oh, Jerry Seger: could Walter Zander: I didn't Jerry Seger: would Walter Zander: realise. Jerry Seger: you care to explain it? Walter Zander: Um yeah, it's like a Um you have like you have uh numbers on your remote control, Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: uh y and you type in the page number you want, so like you type a hundred on your remote control and this this kind of index appears on the television screen with just some some text and some very blocky looking graphics on it. And you just type numbers to go to different pages and it gives you information, mostly rather boring Thomas Stewart: S Walter Zander: stuff like what's on T_V_ next and share prices and that kind of thing. Thomas Stewart: Lottery numbers and sport scores. Walter Zander: Yep, news headlines. Thomas Stewart: But if you ever see the T_V_ saying like go to page one sixty on Ceefax now, that's what they're talking about. Jerry Seger: How? Freddy Holtz: Oh. Walter Zander: It's earl it's pretty old technology. It's like Jerry Seger: Okay. Walter Zander: nineteen eighties. Freddy Holtz: That explains a lot. Thomas Stewart: I have no idea why we don't have it, but Freddy Holtz: That's good. Jerry Seger: Interesting. Okay um, well, we're not gonna the management has decided we're not gonna work with that. Um Okay um and we're also gonna w like your question earlier um whether this is going to be t for television, video, or etcetera. Just for television. That's Walter Zander: Right. Jerry Seger: what we're focused on. Um otherwise becomes to complex, we wanna get this out um very quickly. We only have a a short amount of time. Thomas Stewart: 'Kay. Jerry Seger: Um and finally there's more marketing, I think, um, our corporate image has to be recognisable. So while we're gonna make it Thomas Stewart: Mm. Jerry Seger: look pretty we need to use our colour and our slogan i in the new design. Walter Zander: So what's our corporate image like? It's It's kind of yellow colour with uh Jerry Seger: Looks Walter Zander: we Jerry Seger: like, Walter Zander: put Jerry Seger: yeah, Walter Zander: fashion Jerry Seger: kind of Walter Zander: in Jerry Seger: a yellow Walter Zander: electronics. Jerry Seger: and black and we have that the emphasis on the R_s in Walter Zander: It's like Jerry Seger: um Walter Zander: double R_. Jerry Seger: mm-hmm. Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: But it's, yeah, we put the um fashion in electronics. So we gotta keep that in that in mind. Thomas Stewart: Okay, so we want something that looks good Jerry Seger: Yep. Yep. Thomas Stewart: and is yellow. Jerry Seger: Yeah, or ha maybe some buttons could be yellow. Thomas Stewart: Okay. Jerry Seger: Like, we can we can play around with it a little bit. Um. Okay, we need to talk about our functions and our target group. We need to decide who our target group is. You um in your analysis of different market um of the marketing, Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Jerry Seger: you identified that different groups wanted different things or had certain preferences, for example that um that older people didn't really care for um voice recognition, Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Jerry Seger: but younger people did. Um and so? Thomas Stewart: Well if we're gonna say that function um fashion we put the fashion in in electronics then you automatically, I think, a sort of younger group that that's who's gonna be attracted to this. Freddy Holtz: Yes, I do think, who's gonna have the money to buy that also, Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: that one? Jerry Seger: It's gonna be twenty five Euro remember, so um it has to be avai marketable to um whomever it is. Thomas Stewart: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: Is it is it something that's gonna be sold separately from the television or is it something that comes w with a television? 'Cause that would affect the way that we market it. Jerry Seger: Well at least right now what we're doing is um deciding on just the remote itself, so it Walter Zander: Right. Jerry Seger: will probably be sold separately, Walter Zander: Right, okay. Jerry Seger: twenty five Euro by itself. Freddy Holtz: The only break-down that I was given in terms of age was the voice activation and basically there's a big jump, after thirty five people don't really care if it has voice, so it's like basically fifteen to thirty five that Thomas Stewart: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: think that that's a good idea. I'm gonna be given any other numbers broken down in terms of age later, but if that's sort of the only quality that we have that is divided into age then we would wanna stick between the fifteen and thirty five range. Thomas Stewart: Yeah, that's probably uh a population w quite a little bit of disposable income for use on technology anyway, so Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: that might be a fairly good target group for us. Jerry Seger: Now, those are that's all specific for speech recognition. Are we gonna use that as one of our functions? Walter Zander: Um. Thomas Stewart: Mm. Walter Zander: I I would say no, because it's gonna add too much to the price. Especially if we are marketing it as a separate Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: product, people are gonna be paying uh, well, uh we've got a price limit Jerry Seger: Mm. Walter Zander: of was it twelve twelve and a half Euros for Thomas Stewart: To produce it, Jerry Seger: To Thomas Stewart: yeah. Jerry Seger: produce Walter Zander: to produce Jerry Seger: it, yes. Walter Zander: it? And I wonder if we can get voice recognition into that Jerry Seger: Mm. Walter Zander: twelve and a half Euros without having to make too many other compromises. Freddy Holtz: But what else are we gonna put, I mean not that I'm really gung-ho about it, I don't know what else you can put in a remote to make it technologically advanced though. So like other than just making Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: it look good, Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Freddy Holtz: how is it I mean it can look really great and still have the same up-n-down Thomas Stewart: But Freddy Holtz: buttons and why's anyone Thomas Stewart: right. Freddy Holtz: gonna buy a new remote? Thomas Stewart: Well but why are we why are we aiming for a technological advancement? Everything we're talking about is ease of use and simple and that doesn't necessarily mean Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: more technology, in Jerry Seger: That's Thomas Stewart: fact Jerry Seger: a good Thomas Stewart: it Jerry Seger: thing Thomas Stewart: could Jerry Seger: to Thomas Stewart: use Jerry Seger: keep in mind. Thomas Stewart: it could mean, not. If they might be overwhelmed with with remotes that have too many buttons and too much technology. Freddy Holtz: If someone's looking to buy a new remote, don't they want like an upgrade? I dunno. Jerry Seger: Upgrade? Well, we can look for we can look at upgrade or we can look at um user-friendly. Thomas Stewart: Yeah, simplification. Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Simplification, Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: They could have a crap Jerry Seger: so Thomas Stewart: remote that came with their T_V_ that's just impossible to use, or maybe it broke, or maybe Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: they're just missing it. Jerry Seger: Uh-huh, mm. And we also need to talk about if we're only gonna have the very simple ones or also have the other ones just separate somehow or Thomas Stewart: Hmm. Freddy Holtz: Can you like Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: I mean this may be too complicated, but, I wish I had something to explain it, like if it was just a simple, either this way or this way, that had like the main buttons and then you could like pull something out, kind of and like you got the rest Thomas Stewart: Ooh. Freddy Holtz: the buttons, but the rest of them like went in. Walter Zander: The Freddy Holtz: Do you know what I'm saying? Walter Zander: remote There Jerry Seger: Kind Walter Zander: are Jerry Seger: of Walter Zander: remote Jerry Seger: pull out Walter Zander: controls Jerry Seger: of the side. Walter Zander: like that, yeah. Like some T_V_s they have a sort of uh a sliding screen on the remote control of it Jerry Seger: Mm. Walter Zander: that hides all the complicated buttons. Thomas Stewart: Ooh. Walter Zander: So if you wanna do something complicated like programme your television or re-tune it, then you you open up this little hatch or or slide the Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: screen down and there's Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: all the all the special buttons. Freddy Holtz: 'Cause then 's like people who don't wanna ever look at them, never even have to see them Thomas Stewart: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: and Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: if you like Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: get the instruction manual that comes with it and you just don't even read it then you'll never even know that those things can pull out. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: And you're a happy person and everyone else doesn't have to have like two remotes, one that has the easy ones and one that has Thomas Stewart: Yeah, Freddy Holtz: more complicated Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: ones, Thomas Stewart: that's a good Freddy Holtz: but Thomas Stewart: idea. Freddy Holtz: 's all still Walter Zander: I think Freddy Holtz: in Walter Zander: that's Freddy Holtz: one. Walter Zander: a good idea, yeah. Thomas Stewart: Mm. Jerry Seger: Um we have to be careful that that that doesn't impede um the chip transmitting information, Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Jerry Seger: but Thomas Stewart: Good Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: um Thomas Stewart: point. Jerry Seger: that's gonna be mostly technological thing. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Um. Okay um, so what are we emphasising? I what in this Walter Zander: Si Jerry Seger: project? Walter Zander: simplicity and fashion. Freddy Holtz: I think simplicity, Jerry Seger: Simplicity Thomas Stewart: Yeah Jerry Seger: and fashion. Freddy Holtz: fashion. Thomas Stewart: mm. Jerry Seger: Okay, those are very good goals, I think, um that we have to keep in mind in with everything we do. Simplicity and fashion and, yeah, or usability speci however you wanna say that, which includes um an emphasis on making the infra-red very functional, Freddy Holtz: Mm-hmm. Jerry Seger: so that you don't Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: have to travel around a lot. Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: What can Jerry Seger: Um. Freddy Holtz: you do to like make the infra-red more functional, like why would it not be? I'm just wondering. Jerry Seger: I think it's a lot to do with battery, Freddy Holtz: Okay. Jerry Seger: but that's just my Thomas Stewart: The battery and that I think that the chip takes the data and presents it well, without sort of scattering. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: So 's just the quality of the chip. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. I think so. Freddy Holtz: Okay. Thomas Stewart: The quality uh quality of all the components really, I mean, we can't really do anything shoddy work, 'cause it's Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: gonna be visible down the line. Jerry Seger: So our target group, we're saying, fifteen to thirty five? Freddy Holtz: Well, I dunno how useful that number is if we're not doing Jerry Seger: S voice recognition, Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Jerry Seger: which I kind of I kind of feel like voice recognition is not necessary in a remote control, Freddy Holtz: Yeah. I don't. Jerry Seger: like it might be necessary for a T_V_ but not for the remote Walter Zander: It's, Jerry Seger: c, you Walter Zander: yeah, Jerry Seger: know. Walter Zander: it's Thomas Stewart: Mm-mm. Walter Zander: pretty Jerry Seger: Seems Walter Zander: it's pretty Jerry Seger: a little bit Walter Zander: high-tech. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it might be too expensive. Freddy Holtz: And if the whole idea is you're using a remote then why would you have voice, like you know what Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: I mean and then it's like you wouldn't need a remote you'd just talk to your T_V_. Jerry Seger: Yeah. Walter Zander: It's for, Thomas Stewart: Ooh. Walter Zander: like, the ultimately lazy people, who can't even be bothered to pick up the remote. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: Mm yeah. Maybe Thomas Stewart: I Freddy Holtz: I mean if I get m more numbers, I'll e-mail you before the next meeting in terms of ages. But this doesn't divide up anything and there was only a hundred subjects also, Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: which isn't, I mean, really isn't that representative, especially if it's a hundred subjects that th they then can subdivide into age groups that means there's very few in each age group, so Thomas Stewart: Yeah, but I th I think regardless we're we're aiming for the under sixty five or something. Jerry Seger: Under sixty five, Walter Zander: Yep. Jerry Seger: okay, that's a good start. Um. I'd say we're uh can we narrow it down to maybe um teenagers and families? 'Cause that would go Thomas Stewart: Or Jerry Seger: up Thomas Stewart: like Jerry Seger: to like fifty? Thomas Stewart: single professionals or something. Freddy Holtz: Twenty Jerry Seger: Okay, single Freddy Holtz: to like fifty five. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: I dunno. Jerry Seger: It's it's hard to Thomas Stewart: It's Jerry Seger: narrow Thomas Stewart: really hard Jerry Seger: it down. Thomas Stewart: to figure out right now. Walter Zander: I think the product appeals across a quite a broad range of ages. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: I mean, we we said simplicity is is one of the features, so it's going to appeal to people, maybe people who have problems with technology, you know, people who get Jerry Seger: Okay. Walter Zander: scared by having lots of buttons, and that might be older people, Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: but then we've also got fashion, which is something that definitely appeals Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Walter Zander: to younger people. Freddy Holtz: Well maybe we don't have to defi define the target group by the demographic of age, maybe we Jerry Seger: Right. Freddy Holtz: can define it by like the demographic of like h t how much money they have to spend Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: or something like that, Walter Zander: Yeah Freddy Holtz: like, Thomas Stewart: That's Walter Zander: aim Thomas Stewart: a Walter Zander: for Thomas Stewart: good Freddy Holtz: well Thomas Stewart: point. Walter Zander: a Freddy Holtz: obviously Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: it has to Walter Zander: an Freddy Holtz: be Walter Zander: income Freddy Holtz: someone who Walter Zander: group. Freddy Holtz: owns a television, Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: and like Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: how recently have they bought their television like that sort of thing. Thomas Stewart: Mm. Jerry Seger: So maybe it's more useful to d d to define objectives like fashion and Thomas Stewart: Yeah, Jerry Seger: simplicity than Thomas Stewart: t probably. Jerry Seger: to find specific target group as far Walter Zander: Yeah. Jerry Seger: as age is because, yeah, things so different will appeal to different people, but Okay. Um oh, there're a couple functions do we want something so that do we want some kind of thing to find it if it's lost? Thomas Stewart: Mm. Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Like a button on a T_V_ you can press and it'll ring or something, I don't know like or Freddy Holtz: H Jerry Seger: beep? Freddy Holtz: I mean, like I said before, fifty per cent of of the fru f like frustration someone can have that was the biggest one and half the people said that happened and we all mentioned it before we Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: knew about it. Walter Zander: Yeah. Freddy Holtz: And if we're talking about making something easy that sort of goes along with it so it wouldn't be like a random thing to sort of add in. Thomas Stewart: Mm. Freddy Holtz: It would be relevant to like the overall goal Jerry Seger: Mm. Freddy Holtz: I think, Thomas Stewart: Yeah, Freddy Holtz: so Thomas Stewart: that'll probably be good. Jerry Seger: Okay, we have to we have about four minutes left to define our functions. So let's do that quickly. Um so we want something to keep it from getting lost. Walter Zander: Yep. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: And we want um we want large buttons for the essential things. Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Large, accessible buttons for the essentials. We want a possibility to um to get um a possibility to get the extra functions. Thomas Stewart: Mm-hmm. Walter Zander: Yeah. Which are kind of hidden away in some way or well not hidden but they're uh they're not as prominent as the main features. Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: Hmm. Jerry Seger: Um, yeah, hidden way. And we also want it to be fashionable, which I'm not sure if that's a function so much as a um yeah Freddy Holtz: on your coffee table, it's not like an eye sore, that kind Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Freddy Holtz: of thing. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Alright. Jerry Seger: Okay, do it. Any other essential functions that we need? Battery? Do we need a Thomas Stewart: Battery Jerry Seger: long-life battery? Thomas Stewart: battery use. Yeah, but Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: I think that goes in with simplicity and ease of use really. Jerry Seger: But Freddy Holtz: So Jerry Seger: we might Freddy Holtz: you Jerry Seger: as well. Freddy Holtz: never have to change the battery. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Walter Zander: We should maybe investigate whether it needs a battery at all. I suspect the remote control does need a battery, but Jerry Seger: Yeah, Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: I would imagine. Walter Zander: I dunno if you can Jerry Seger: Just 'cause it is an electronic device, the Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: Mm. It I think it does. I don't I don't think of a way you can operate a chip and convert that much data without without Walter Zander: Yeah, Thomas Stewart: one. Walter Zander: without the energy, Thomas Stewart: But you Walter Zander: yeah. Thomas Stewart: could maybe have it in a little charging station like a mobile phone, or like a little cradle for your iPod. Walter Zander: Yeah, that's Thomas Stewart: You Walter Zander: that's Thomas Stewart: could Walter Zander: possible. Thomas Stewart: we could maybe Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: do that instead. So you don't Jerry Seger: Charging. Thomas Stewart: ha you got like a rechargeable battery. Walter Zander: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: I dunno, that might contribute to less people losing it too if Jerry Seger: Mm-hmm. Thomas Stewart: it it stays in one place. Freddy Holtz: Mm. Jerry Seger: We have to think about um space in living-rooms, too, like Thomas Stewart: Mm. Jerry Seger: 'cause they're I mean, would you put it on top of the T_V_? I don't know, just think okay, that's that's a good idea, we'll keep it. Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Think it's Thomas Stewart: That's just off the top of my head. Jerry Seger: And maybe fun. Okay. Um 'kay we're gonna conclude now, has everyone said their functions and Walter Zander: Yep. Jerry Seger: 'kay. Um after the meeting we're gonna each complete a sks um a questionnaire and a summaries summary. I don't know what summarisation. Um and then we'll have our lunch break. After that we have thirty minutes of individual work. Um I'll make sure to put up um the minutes and the project documentation and including these PowerPoint slides. If everyone could do that as well, that'd be great. Um you each have individual actions, I_ um I_D_ Industrial Design you've your components concept, User Interface, the user interface concept, market trend wa watching. And as as per last time you'll get specific incrat instructions from your personal coach e-mailed to you. And hopefully, I hope, next time you'll be able to access more of the web site that they they seem to tell you that you could. Thomas Stewart: Yeah, Jerry Seger: It's kinda Thomas Stewart: who knows. Jerry Seger: frustrating, but um Be sure to note any frustrations or any um issues that come up in your um in your um summary. Thomas Stewart: Okay Jerry Seger: Mm 'kay? Thomas Stewart: Sounds good. Jerry Seger: Great seeing y'all. Freddy Holtz: It's good. Did you um were you able to like put yours in the group folder? Thomas Stewart: Yes, I Freddy Holtz: Okay. Thomas Stewart: just did that. Hopefully it is there for people. Freddy Holtz: Yep. Thomas Stewart: Yeah? Jerry Seger: Looks like there are um looks like there's a second one kind of of mine Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: that's that I didn't do, it's from like an earlier project, I think so Thomas Stewart: Okay. Jerry Seger: um Freddy Holtz: Where is that? Yours is Jerry Seger: Under the shared folder, I don't know it might not Thomas Stewart: Technical. Jerry Seger: even be under yours Thomas Stewart: So Jerry Seger: as well. Thomas Stewart: in there we Jerry Seger: Projects. Thomas Stewart: have technical functions presentation, working design presentation and the functional requirements. At least that's Freddy Holtz: I Thomas Stewart: what I Freddy Holtz: only Thomas Stewart: have Freddy Holtz: have Thomas Stewart: in. Freddy Holtz: three, I just have like our three. Thomas Stewart: Yeah, Freddy Holtz: Yeah. Thomas Stewart: that's what I have as well, R Jerry Seger: Okay. Thomas Stewart: Rose So. Jerry Seger: You don't have mine? Freddy Holtz: No, but that's 'cause I think yours is in the e-mail separate, like it's not on the server. Jerry Seger: S Thomas Stewart: Yeah. Jerry Seger: Mm. Freddy Holtz: But if I open it and then save it, probably will be there. Oh wait, never mind you can't save it to the Jerry Seger: Okay. Well I'll figure that out in the meantime. Thomas Stewart: Okay. Freddy Holtz: Okay. Jerry Seger: Okay.

Jerry Seger opened the meeting and stated the agenda. Freddy Holtz discussed user preferences in terms of the appearance and use of remotes, finding that users wanted fancier looking remotes, disliked losing their remotes, wanted remotes with fewer buttons, frequently use the channel changing and volume buttons, and that younger users wanted speech recognition. Walter Zander described how a remote works and how to go about designing one. He presented two remotes currently on the market and the advantages and disadvantages to each design. Thomas Stewart described the interior workings of a remote. Jerry Seger briefed the team on some new requirements and led them in a discussion about their target group, the option to include speech recognition, how to find a remote when lost, and batteries.

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William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: Mm yeah. William Park: Okay. I g yeah. Time it? Roland Brown: Fourteen twenty six. William Park: Okay. Lovely to see you all again. Um it's our conceptual design meeting and it's starting at approximately fourteen twenty five and so we have forty minutes for this one again and so we'll go just after three o'clock. Um okay our agenda, we're gonna do an opening, I'm gonna review the minutes of the last meeting, then we'll have your three presentations um and then we'll have to make a decision on the remote control concepts, and we'll close. Julian Tindle: Okay. William Park: So opening. Um these are our minutes from r the functional design. We decided our target group is the focus on who can afford it, because we have international appeal and we said it's for all age groups, different um functions of it. Our main objectives were simplicity and fashion. And s um in specific functions are something to keep the remote from getting lost, large buttons for the essential functions, a possibility for extra functions, like a sliding a sliding piece and a long-life battery or a charging station. Okay, now three presentations. I'd like to do it in this order, first do the conceptual specification of components, properties and materials um Julian Tindle: That would be Roland Brown. William Park: and then the conceptual specification of user interface Basil Phipps: Yep. William Park: and finally trend watching. Julian Tindle: Alright. Well. William Park: Mm. 'kay. William Park: Function F_ eight it. There we go. Julian Tindle: Alright. Um I'm very excited by this one actually guys I uh had a lot of fun doing it. Components design. This is where you look at what does it take to make a remote control and what should we make our specific remote control out of. Um. So, we need to examine each element separately, but we're designing a full thing, so you wanna keep it integrated as a whole. The main elements of remote controls in general, and therefore ours as well, are the case, the buttons, the circuit board with the chip and the battery. These are all things that we had sort of addressed before, but I'm gonna take each one a little bit separately here as we figure out what they should be made of and what they should look like. The case, uh the options that I've gotten from headquarters about what we can do, um there's there's the shape of a case, we could do a flat sh a flat case, a curved case or maybe even a double double-curved case. I haven't seen any pictures of what this exactly looks like yet, just keep that in mind, but these are the options that we have from manufacturing and we can make our case out of plastic, the m the main base will be plastic, but we have all these sort of fashion and technological elements we can add in, wood, latex, titanium, rubber or other coloured types of plastic. That would be our case. Um buttons, for buttons we have um pushbuttons, which is what Real Reaction uses the most often, but we also have scror scroll wheels, which can William Park: Mm. Julian Tindle: have integrated pushbuttons, or we could go all high-tech and have an L_ L_C_D_ screen. Um circuit board and chip we can have a simple one, a regular one or an advanced one, depending on what our other needs are. And then battery I think is where things get most exciting. We're talking about long-life batteries here. Um we can we can have your sort of basic double A_ batteries, but we also have these options of um using a kinetic battery, like are used in high-tech watches, where you just have to move it a little bit to get it to power up. Um so simple movements like pushing buttons would recharge the battery. Or a solar battery, although there are slight um complications with solar batteries as in we can't use a latex case if we have a solar battery. William Park: Hmm. Julian Tindle: Or um something they only described as the type of battery you find in torches from about fifty years ago, flashlights. Not quite sure what that is, but that's the description that I received, so that's what I'm passing on to you. So those are our options. Um personal preferences that I was thinking through here's what we've been talking about all through, fashion and simplicity. So if we're going for fashion in our cases, I think that what we're gonna wanna look at is a curved or a double-curved case, probably with a variety of design elements. Maybe titanium, maybe some wood. We're gonna have to investigate that better when I get specifics of the actual materials, but that's sort of what I have in mind. And we wanna go for simplicity. Probably pushbuttons, but I'm sort of intrigued by the idea of a scroll scroll William Park: Mm. Julian Tindle: wheel, if anyone has anything any ideas on that? I mean I know the iPods and things right now have touch scroll um buttons which are exactly like what they're describing, so that might be something we wanna look into. And I'm really intrigued by the idea of a kinetic battery. Solar I don't think would be such a good idea, because how often are you sure that your remote control will get a certain amount of light. But this idea of the kinetic, that you don't have to replace, and that a simple just shaking it around will make it work, I think that that m would be a very interesting thing. But I think we'd also wanna go for e a simple chip or regular chip to keep our costs down. Uh we really only need a regular or advanced chip t if we're gonna start using an L_C_D_. So I think we want to be aware of not making things overly t technological if they don't need to be, 'cause that'll keep our manufacturing price way down. That's what I have for options. Um I'd appreciate anyone's input, but that's what I'm seeing for the future of the the look of this thing. Roland Brown: Is double-curved like would be like two hands kind of thing? Julian Tindle: I'm not sure. I haven't received any specific Roland Brown: Okay. Julian Tindle: visuals Roland Brown: 'Cause I'm Julian Tindle: of Roland Brown: imagining Julian Tindle: this yet. Roland Brown: like double-curved is like, you know, like two sides that curve Julian Tindle: This is Roland Brown: and Julian Tindle: what Roland Brown: then like Julian Tindle: I'm sort Roland Brown: one Julian Tindle: of Roland Brown: curve would just be like a single vertical-ish kind of looking Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: thing, but I've Julian Tindle: I'm Roland Brown: no idea. Julian Tindle: not sure, but I'll let you know as soon as I get any pictures. Roland Brown: Sounds good. William Park: Yeah, I wonder Julian Tindle: I know if we do have a double-curved case, it can't have any titanium in it. But the titanium, they were quite they're marketing quite hard to us as being used in the space programme, so that could be quite interesting. Space-age remote. William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: Just all things William Park: Just Julian Tindle: to William Park: an interesting Julian Tindle: keep in mind. William Park: marketing kind of Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: element. Julian Tindle: That's about all I have to do, guys. quickly. William Park: Uh just a real quick question um the weight of these different elements, Julian Tindle: Yeah, William Park: have Julian Tindle: n William Park: you Julian Tindle: no William Park: no Julian Tindle: idea, William Park: idea, okay. Julian Tindle: no idea. Um I'm assuming that a kinetic battery isn't gonna take up that much weight, William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: and that a tita titanium is very light, I know, William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: um but other than that's really basic, I mean, that's all I have gotten so far. William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: Alright? Any other questions? Basil Phipps: Uh-huh. Don't think so. Julian Tindle: No? Okay. William Park: Mm 'kay. Julian Tindle: I have save this in the uh shared projects, if anyone wants to look William Park: Thank you, perfect. Julian Tindle: and Roland Brown: Thanks. Julian Tindle: I have c considerable notes on the topic as well, if anyone needs any more information. Uh William Park: Um if you made notes yourself you can put those on our um underneath our Julian Tindle: Just in William Park: oh, Julian Tindle: my notebook, William Park: uh in your book, then don't worry about Julian Tindle: but if William Park: that. Julian Tindle: anyone has any specific questions, don't hesitate to email Roland Brown or something. Alright? Uh I guess I can William Park: 'Kay now we're um concepts concepts of user interface. Yeah, um. This one's so much tighter than the other one. Julian Tindle: I know. William Park: Okay. Nope. There we go. Here you are. Basil Phipps: Jess. Julian Tindle: G oh, geez. Basil Phipps: Alright, so I'm gonna describe the the concept of the user interface of this des device. Um we've talked about uh the two essential properties of the user interface. We want it to be simple and we want it to be fashionable. Um other we've also got to remember that this is a device that serves as a useful purpose. Uh we want people to be able to use it s as a remote control, so we need determine what the essential functions of the d of the device are and make sure that we include that we've included all of those and that we actually end up with a device that is going to be useful to people. We have a number of different choices for a design concept um and s that's that's something that that I'll show you some examples of um, but essentially we need to choose how how is this device going to work, how how what kind of model is there going to be for user interaction with this device. Uh once we've chosen a a concept for it, we can then design the features around the concept, making sure that we get all the essential functions in the device and uh the extra functions and the more advanced features. And of course we also have to make it look cool. So basically, that's what we don't want. M we don't want lots of buttons, uh complicated features. We want something that looks nice and simple. Here's a Julian Tindle: Hmm. Basil Phipps: a fairly simple device. This is an an iPod from Apple. Um I think the main thing to notice about it is it just has four buttons. It's very minimalistic in its design. Uh you use these four buttons to m to move around a range of settings on the small L_C_D_ screen. Um the thing I like about this is that it's very very quick to access the main features. Uh you can just about make out uh that the button three buttons are uh previous track, next track and play pause. They're the main the main features of the iPod, the things you will use a all the time. Um then if you want to do anything more advanced, you go into the little menu on the L_C_D_ screen and you use the buttons just to scroll around and and find the more advanced features that you want. So I think that's that's a good a good kind of model that we could have. Um here's a another example. This is uh it's an interesting idea and I think i it looks pretty cool. Um it's certainly got novelty value. Uh William Park: Mm. Basil Phipps: it's nice and colourful, it's nice and bright. Uh it's also something that you can kind of feel your way around. The buttons are are different shapes and and you can sort of yeah if you're watching T_V_ in the dark or whatever, you can work out which button's which and basically, yeah it's ith it's fun. So I I like I like this idea of just having buttons for the features that you use most often. So you'd need a few buttons to select your favourite channels. I mean most people, when they watch T_V_, they have two hundred and fifty channels on their T_V_ and they watch of 'bout four of them at the most. So, you have buttons for your favourite channel, changing the volume, which is something you do all the time when you're watching T_V_, and the button to switch it off, in case you get bored. Um other features, things like adjusting the brightness, tuning the T_V_, uh I don't know what else you do with a T_V_. Um but these are these are all necessary functions. Uh you can't have a t there's no point having a television that you can't tune or that you can't set the contrast, so we need to find a way of including these somehow. Um and one other suggestions I'd make is to in is to include in a menu system, a bit like on the iPod. So we'd either have a small L_C_D_ display on the device itself, or uh have a dis a menu display that comes up on your television and can b be controlled through the device. Julian Tindle: Hmm. Basil Phipps: And that would allow you to access access the advanced features uh whilst keeping a very small and simple set of buttons for the features that you use most often. William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: So you'd be advocating an L_C_D_ then? Basil Phipps: I think that's that's one way to go, yes. Julian Tindle: Okay. Basil Phipps: Um I mean there are there are advantages and disadvantages if you if you have an L_C_D_ display, it's it's nice, because it's it it lets you just sort of sit there and st and control your television from your armchair. Julian Tindle: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: There are disadvantages, an an L_C_D_ display would have to be quite small, 'cause we're Julian Tindle: Right. Basil Phipps: we're I well we're I assume we're gonna be making quite a small device. Um it would also have to have uh a kind of backlighting in it, 'cause you ten you tend to watch William Park: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: T_V_ in the dark, Julian Tindle: Right. Basil Phipps: but you need to be able to see your L_D_D_ L_C_D_ display. The alternative is to have a an on-screen display on your television that you control through your remote control. Uh have these um digital boxes where you you press the buttons and it comes up with your this thing of watch lo what's William Park: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: on each channel. I mean Julian Tindle: Okay. Basil Phipps: that that's also a good idea. It's it can it does have it's problems as well, if you've got a small T_V_ and you're sitting on the other William Park: Mm. Basil Phipps: side of a room, it's hard to read the little text that comes up. Julian Tindle: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: Uh but that's a that's a design decision that we can make. Julian Tindle: 'Kay. William Park: I do think that um one of the important features for a remote is seeing a menu and seeing what's on. Um Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: and so like favourite channels is is applicable, but I think th that you do need to have some kind of function where it's um you have t you can see Julian Tindle: Well William Park: the title of the show or possibly a description of it. Julian Tindle: Are you Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: Like Julian Tindle: are you William Park: I Julian Tindle: tak William Park: I know I use Roland Brown: Wait, William Park: that Roland Brown: but is William Park: often Roland Brown: that separate William Park: enough. Roland Brown: from what he was saying? Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: Well if it if it was a L_ L_C_D_ on th on the remote, I don't know that you could f that you'd Julian Tindle: No, William Park: be able to Julian Tindle: I William Park: see Julian Tindle: think William Park: a Julian Tindle: I think we're talking menu like contrast and William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: tuning the V_C_R_ or something if I've understood you correctly, Basil Phipps: Yeah, that Julian Tindle: rather than Basil Phipps: that Julian Tindle: menu Basil Phipps: would be one Julian Tindle: as Basil Phipps: of the Julian Tindle: what's Basil Phipps: features, Julian Tindle: on. Basil Phipps: yes. William Park: Okay. Basil Phipps: But it's William Park: 'Cause that would Basil Phipps: it's William Park: be more specifically Basil Phipps: it's William Park: a Basil Phipps: something William Park: digital Basil Phipps: to bear William Park: box, Basil Phipps: in mind is that William Park: mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: if we put a display on the remote control the c uh communication is one way, so you can't have the televisions and information back to the remote control, Julian Tindle: Oh, Basil Phipps: at Julian Tindle: good Basil Phipps: least Julian Tindle: point. Basil Phipps: I William Park: Mm. Basil Phipps: don't think you can. Um I'm not sure. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: Okay, now Roland Brown: Should William Park: we're Roland Brown: I plug William Park: moving Roland Brown: that William Park: on Roland Brown: in? William Park: to market. Marketing. Basil Phipps: Is that going on? Okay. Roland Brown: Maybe it's just not Basil Phipps: Uh that should Roland Brown: Is it Basil Phipps: be Roland Brown: on? Basil Phipps: alright, actually. Roland Brown: Ri What F_ do you have to press, five? William Park: Eight. Roland Brown: I just keep pressing lots of 'em. Well, I don't know how relevant all of this gonna be. If anything, the that they gave Roland Brown. Julian Tindle: No William Park: Oops, Julian Tindle: signal. William Park: it's not plugged in, quite Roland Brown: Alright. William Park: in well enough. There we are. Julian Tindle: Oop, there we go. William Park: Mm 'kay. Roland Brown: Oh yeah. Okay, so we're gonna look a little bit at trend watching. Basically, I was given um an executive summary that was a market investigation on remote controls that was recently conducted, and then also some fashion watchers in Paris and Milan commented on some things that are gonna be going on this year. So first um they had people they ranked um the important aspects of r remote controls, and right now i d they're saying that currently there's a functional look and feel preference, but that really, over the next year it it that's gonna be switching to fancy look and feel remotes, so that just goes back to the whole desire of our c Real Reaction company wanting to focus on fashion and so, even though we're stressing, when we're talking, we've all been talking about this like simplicity and easy to use idea, they're sort of wanting us to remember that the number one thing for everyone is that it's fancy look and feel. And as these are ranked, the top one is doubly important to the second one, which is doubly important to the third one, so Julian Tindle: Okay. Roland Brown: just to take that weight into account. The second thing that was mentioned as important was the technological innovations. That would be like if we use something like the space material or the L_C_D_ screen, things like that. And then ease of use was the third most important, whi so really, no matter what, we need to focus the most on fancy look and feel, according to this. I don't know how much we agree with that. And then the fashion watch talks about that this year's top trend for clothes, shoes and furniture is fruits and vegetables and tha that there's a preference William Park: S sweet. Roland Brown: for spongy, tight material. And so that brings us to my personal preferences. Who wants a spongy remote or one with fruit and vegetable padding. Personally, I don't really think that I want one that's gonna go out of style or go stale, excuse the pun, um in a year, so even though this is coming from us as, you know, trend watch, market research, I don't know how much of it we necessarily wanna take away. Also, considering that the d research b has been carried out by Real Reaction, I'm a little hesitant as to like, how these questions may have been worded, and if necessarily this whole fashion to technology y edas ease of use is necessarily the right ranking. Personally, like I might reverse it, but if we're working for this company then I guess no matter what, we have to stress fashion the most. But it Julian Tindle: Mm. Roland Brown: doesn't necessarily need to be a spongy material. Julian Tindle: That there's all kinds of scope for imagination in that one though. Roland Brown: Yeah. I don't have a lot of notes to share if you want them, that pretty much sums it up. So yeah. William Park: Okay, do we have any s some questions for this, let's Roland Brown: Yeah, William Park: see um. Roland Brown: what can I possibly enlighten on? William Park: Um do you have any ideas how to possibly use these? Um how to how to use a fruit or vegetable or um or the spongy material at all? Like could we make a s like could we make a spongy remote? It would be easier Julian Tindle: If William Park: on Julian Tindle: it's William Park: the hands. Julian Tindle: latex if it's latexy William Park: It's kind of Julian Tindle: Um, William Park: and then it Julian Tindle: mean Basil Phipps: A kind of William Park: we Basil Phipps: thing William Park: would have to Basil Phipps: that William Park: find a way to protect like the chip and all that, I dunno. Julian Tindle: An William Park: But Julian Tindle: uh I if th my understanding of a latex case is that it's in fact hard to protect stuff inside, but that William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: it's covered with the latex, which is spongier and softer on your hands. It's there's something to be said, I mean we we got that thing earlier from you about um not wanting it to R_ R_ repetitive stress injuries William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: and Roland Brown: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: things Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: and and Yeah, Roland Brown: Yeah, so something, m Julian Tindle: something Roland Brown: m instead of Julian Tindle: grippable, Roland Brown: a necess Julian Tindle: I mean Roland Brown: yeah, Julian Tindle: we don't Roland Brown: grip, Julian Tindle: we don't Roland Brown: I'm thinking Julian Tindle: we don't wanna go Roland Brown: grip Julian Tindle: spongy, Roland Brown: more than Julian Tindle: maybe. Roland Brown: like sinking into your hands, Basil Phipps: Yeah. Roland Brown: you know, i and I Basil Phipps: Yeah. Roland Brown: think I'm envisioning more like, Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: you know, the material that you have when you sit on like a bicycle, so William Park: Mm-hmm. Roland Brown: that it doesn't hurt when Julian Tindle: Mm-hmm. Roland Brown: you're sitting down for a long time, like I'm imagining that sort of thing, I don't know what th that Julian Tindle: Yeah, Roland Brown: material's Julian Tindle: I think Roland Brown: called. Julian Tindle: that given the list of materials I w I was forwarded it's that seems doable. could we go in fruit and vegetable colours? We could colour-co-ordinate William Park: F for Julian Tindle: them, William Park: sure, or maybe Julian Tindle: li William Park: like um couple main ones being like, I dunno, lemons or strawberries or something. Julian Tindle: The buttons could be fruit-shaped. William Park: Could they be smelly? Basil Phipps: I Julian Tindle: Oh Roland Brown: Oh God. Basil Phipps: Is it supposed to be shaped like a vegetable? Uh William Park: I Basil Phipps: like William Park: don't Basil Phipps: uh William Park: know. Basil Phipps: I dunno, like uh carrots or something. Julian Tindle: well it's William Park: Or Julian Tindle: quite easy William Park: carrot Julian Tindle: to s William Park: shaped, Julian Tindle: shape thing William Park: mm. Julian Tindle: like carrot isn't it? Basil Phipps: Maybe, Julian Tindle: Or maybe the Basil Phipps: or Julian Tindle: buttons could be shaped William Park: Like large Julian Tindle: like different William Park: button, Julian Tindle: fruits. William Park: that's what I was thinking of, yeah. Roland Brown: What about the idea of like a round remote? Instead of like a vertical up and down one. Like Basil Phipps: Kind Roland Brown: in Basil Phipps: of Roland Brown: terms Basil Phipps: like a Roland Brown: of Basil Phipps: potato. Roland Brown: holding it. Like that's a f shape Julian Tindle: be yeah. Roland Brown: of a fruit. Julian Tindle: It'd Roland Brown: Just William Park: Might Roland Brown: to William Park: would you Roland Brown: tie Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: think you Roland Brown: it William Park: you Roland Brown: in a little. William Park: do you think you'd be able to hold it? 'Cause I think the reason they're long Julian Tindle: be harder William Park: is Julian Tindle: to f bu uh buttons William Park: yeah. Julian Tindle: I think. It'd be harder to press Basil Phipps: Depends. Julian Tindle: button. William Park: Harder to push. Basil Phipps: When you when you use a remote, do you press the buttons with your thumb, usually? Roland Brown: Yeah. Basil Phipps: Or your fingers? Julian Tindle: Um William Park: I usually hold it in one hand. Maybe Basil Phipps: Or maybe Julian Tindle: I Basil Phipps: you want something that's shaped like a mobile phone, so you you hold it in one hand, and you press the buttons Julian Tindle: Yeah, William Park: But then Basil Phipps: with William Park: the buttons Basil Phipps: your thumb. William Park: would Julian Tindle: that's William Park: have to be very small. Julian Tindle: ts how I tend to do it. Roland Brown: Yeah, William Park: Don't Roland Brown: 'cause William Park: you think? Julian Tindle: No Roland Brown: otherwise Julian Tindle: just Roland Brown: your Julian Tindle: thumb-sized. Roland Brown: fingers can't move around. Julian Tindle: Jus Roland Brown: But William Park: But Roland Brown: I like William Park: I mean Roland Brown: i William Park: in order to get to all of them, Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: you know. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: They would have to be within Basil Phipps: Maybe. William Park: a certain amount Julian Tindle: That's William Park: of Basil Phipps: But Julian Tindle: true. William Park: space Basil Phipps: if you've only William Park: with Basil Phipps: got William Park: each other. Basil Phipps: like four or five buttons anyway, then it's it's not Julian Tindle: Right. Basil Phipps: so much a problem, perhaps. Julian Tindle: I When I'm when I'm pressing buttons on my iPod, that's how I do it, hold it and press William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: the Basil Phipps: So Julian Tindle: four. Basil Phipps: you hold it in one hand Julian Tindle: Yeah. Basil Phipps: and you press you press the buttons Julian Tindle: Yeah, William Park: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: with Julian Tindle: or Basil Phipps: your thumb Julian Tindle: in and use Basil Phipps: and Julian Tindle: my thumb or my pointer finger on the touch scroll wheel. Basil Phipps: And Roland Brown: I Basil Phipps: you find Roland Brown: love Basil Phipps: that works Roland Brown: the idea Basil Phipps: quite well? Roland Brown: of the Julian Tindle: Yeah William Park: Mm-hmm. Roland Brown: wheel like the iPod. Basil Phipps: Is Roland Brown: 'Cause Basil Phipps: that Roland Brown: th Basil Phipps: The button on an iPod, is it what is it, is it just four buttons or is it Roland Brown: It's Basil Phipps: li Roland Brown: like Basil Phipps: more Roland Brown: five, Basil Phipps: like William Park: It's a Basil Phipps: a William Park: scroll, Basil Phipps: scroll Roland Brown: 'cause Basil Phipps: thing? Roland Brown: there's Julian Tindle: It William Park: yeah, Roland Brown: one Julian Tindle: wel William Park: it's Roland Brown: in the William Park: a Roland Brown: middle. William Park: wheel. Julian Tindle: well yeah, it would I mean each version of it has been a little bit different, William Park: The one I have Julian Tindle: but William Park: doesn't have the four on i like Julian Tindle: Oh yeah, William Park: around Julian Tindle: you had William Park: it, Julian Tindle: one William Park: I don't Julian Tindle: of the William Park: think. Julian Tindle: in-between ones, when they weren't doing that anymore. Julian Tindle: Ts Basil Phipps: Right. Julian Tindle: and you press the centre button, that's that's Basil Phipps: Oh, Julian Tindle: your all-purpose Basil Phipps: I see, Julian Tindle: select Basil Phipps: right, yeah. Julian Tindle: button right there. Basil Phipps: Oh, okay. Julian Tindle: Since it's the Basil Phipps: Yeah, Julian Tindle: one Basil Phipps: that's Julian Tindle: in the Basil Phipps: quite Julian Tindle: centre Basil Phipps: a good Julian Tindle: that's Basil Phipps: design. Julian Tindle: not marked, yeah. Roland Brown: I think why it would be good for us is 'cause like you could have the same wheel sort of effect for like channel flipping and then the other Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: one could be like for volume. Like just the idea of like those so few buttons Julian Tindle: Uh Roland Brown: for main Julian Tindle: uh t Roland Brown: things, but then how you could go back to the menu and like, I dunno if we would want it on the screen there or on the actual T_V_. I kind of am wanting Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: to say on the T_V_, 'cause if you're changing Julian Tindle: Hmm. Roland Brown: the brightness, don't you wanna see it happening, kind William Park: Mm. Roland Brown: of? Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: And then Julian Tindle: Yeah, I Roland Brown: you Julian Tindle: think Roland Brown: could still Julian Tindle: an Roland Brown: have Julian Tindle: L_C_D_ Roland Brown: that available. Julian Tindle: screen might be good in theory, but not as useful Basil Phipps: I think Julian Tindle: in Basil Phipps: it Julian Tindle: practice. Basil Phipps: could be difficult in practice, yeah. Julian Tindle: Yeah. Basil Phipps: Also z yeah, 'cause you would be z looking down at the L_C_D_ screen, than Julian Tindle: Right. Basil Phipps: back up at your T_V_ and Roland Brown: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: people Julian Tindle: Um Basil Phipps: don't wanna do that. William Park: Okay um Julian Tindle: Oh we William Park: we Julian Tindle: probably have William Park: have Julian Tindle: to get going, don't William Park: we've Julian Tindle: we? William Park: about fifteen minutes left, so I'm I'm gonna Roland Brown: Uh-huh. William Park: continue with my pres presentation. Um I've one more slide before we close, but in that slide is when we need to make decisions about this these kinds of things, so I'll just Julian Tindle: 'Kay. William Park: bring that up and show you all before we move on. Um Roland Brown: If I get Julian Tindle: Could Roland Brown: any more information of fruits and vegetables, Julian Tindle: Could we Roland Brown: I'll let Julian Tindle: uh Roland Brown: you know. Julian Tindle: could we have changeable covers like for your mobile? Basil Phipps: Like, Julian Tindle: In different Basil Phipps: to Julian Tindle: fruit Basil Phipps: make Julian Tindle: and Basil Phipps: it Julian Tindle: vegetable Basil Phipps: different fruits. Julian Tindle: colours, yeah. Basil Phipps: Yeah, it's possible. William Park: Yeah, and then like the the covers could be spongy latex Julian Tindle: Exactly. William Park: wherea but the actual model could be titanium. Julian Tindle: And you could co-ordinate with your house or whatever. Basil Phipps: I Julian Tindle: All Basil Phipps: think Julian Tindle: these Basil Phipps: maybe Julian Tindle: options. Basil Phipps: th the packaging, it should be like a lemon and the the packaging is like the peel. So Julian Tindle: Ooh. Basil Phipps: instead of opening the box you just kind of peel it, and the remote control's inside. Roland Brown: Well, there we Julian Tindle: Oh. Roland Brown: go. Basil Phipps: Don't know. William Park: Ah hmm Roland Brown: The William Park: hmm Roland Brown: iPod packaging William Park: hmm. Roland Brown: is Roland Brown like was so that was like half the fun. It's Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: like the way it all comes all cute. Julian Tindle: Mm. Roland Brown: Lemons? Julian Tindle: Options. William Park: Okay, um components concept. Energy, chip Julian Tindle: Uh-hu oh, William Park: on print. Julian Tindle: oh yes. Right, William Park: G Julian Tindle: I had sort of skipped over that hoping it wouldn't get be necessary but um William Park: That's th th this is the agenda they gave Roland Brown. So Julian Tindle: Alright, William Park: can you just explain Julian Tindle: so William Park: what that Julian Tindle: um William Park: is real quick? Julian Tindle: decisions, what the okay deci decisions on energy I'm thinking is based on the battery. William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: Um I dunno, what do people think about this kinetic battery idea? William Park: I think it's awesome. I Julian Tindle: Am William Park: think Julian Tindle: I William Park: it's really cool. Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: Yeah, I mean, it would t totally take care of our problem of not wanting to change batteries. Julian Tindle: Yeah. Basil Phipps: Yeah, um I think it's good, as as long as we consider the the cost and the uh how reliable it is, but Julian Tindle: Right, Basil Phipps: as far Julian Tindle: I haven't Basil Phipps: as I know, Julian Tindle: gotten Basil Phipps: the technology Julian Tindle: any Basil Phipps: is good. Roland Brown: Costs. Julian Tindle: yeah, any more information on cost other than it's more expensive than a regular battery, but um Roland Brown: But over time Julian Tindle: but if we're using a an i a cheaper chip, then it'll even out, I think. Um circuit boards. Um yeah, I got a whole bunch of information on how circuit boards are produced. They're they're thin fibreglass with copper wires etched on to them, and di I think they're quite easily printed on by machine, which is chip on print is where the machine prints on the wires and solders it all together for us. I don't really know what to tell you as far as decisions. I wasn't really given any options, I was just given that this is how they're done. William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: Um yeah, I can't can't really tell you. I can I can tell you a whole lot about how it works. But I don't know any decisions on William Park: If they're if they're really options. Julian Tindle: Yeah. I'm sorry, I did William Park: Okay. Basil Phipps: Al Julian Tindle: f Basil Phipps: all circuit boards are pretty much the same, I think. Uh it's fairly fairly standard. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: then we'll move on to the case. Um oh bu I guess maybe if we decided on like a simple, a regular, or an advanced Julian Tindle: Right. William Park: chip, Julian Tindle: Well William Park: maybe. Julian Tindle: okay, here's the here's the thing on the chips that I that I got. Um simple, regular, advanced chip on print. The chip on print includes an infrared sensor, so we don't have to worry about that. Um, 'kay, the pushbutton if we're gonna have pushbuttons, they require a simple chip, but a scroll wheel requires a regular chip, and an L_C_D_ requires advanced. Do we want a scroll wheel, or do we just want pushbuttons? Basil Phipps: Um I don't think we ne really need the scroll whe wheel. I mean it might be nice for changing the volume. Julian Tindle: Oh. William Park: It would Basil Phipps: Uh William Park: be nice for changing Basil Phipps: but William Park: the volume, but I don't know how useful it'd be for changing the channel. Basil Phipps: I don't William Park: 'Cause Basil Phipps: think William Park: you Basil Phipps: it William Park: don't Basil Phipps: would Roland Brown: Yeah, William Park: have Roland Brown: it's Basil Phipps: really William Park: control Basil Phipps: work. Roland Brown: a William Park: over numbers or Basil Phipps: Yeah, you Julian Tindle: Yeah, Basil Phipps: really need buttons Julian Tindle: th Basil Phipps: for Julian Tindle: it'd Basil Phipps: changing Julian Tindle: be Basil Phipps: a channel. Julian Tindle: it'd be handy for going through if there was an on-screen menu of your channel choices, Roland Brown: But Julian Tindle: than Roland Brown: if Julian Tindle: you Roland Brown: you Julian Tindle: can Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: scroll Roland Brown: c if you Julian Tindle: down Roland Brown: could scroll Julian Tindle: on the scroll. Roland Brown: through the channels, and then Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: the volume would just William Park: We have Roland Brown: be William Park: five minutes left for the meeting, so. Roland Brown: and the volume would just be like the same way, Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: forward and backward as I'm just thinking like it would make it much like sleeker sort of looking. Julian Tindle: Yeah. Roland Brown: And Basil Phipps: Yeah. Roland Brown: otherwise, no matter how may buttons we have, we're gonna have like, you know, black with red sticking out and th no it's gonna inevitably sort of start looking like Basil Phipps: Yeah. Roland Brown: those group of sort of ugly ones that we saw stacked up. Julian Tindle: Hmm. William Park: So, have a scroll for volume? Julian Tindle: F or for all those secret William Park: F Julian Tindle: functions? When you get on the on-screen menu of all your functions that your remote could do for you without the buttons and you could have a scroll wheel to go through those menus. Basil Phipps: I think yeah, I think a scroll wheel would be nice, but it's not necessary. Julian Tindle: Right. Basil Phipps: Um Julian Tindle: So we could either go with a simple or a regular chip, depending and maybe we could table that decision for later. William Park: Um. Julian Tindle: I don't know. William Park: I think w well I think when we go on to the une userface, we're gonna have to decide the interface we're gonna have to decide Julian Tindle: Okay. William Park: um whether we're gonna have a scroll or not. Julian Tindle: Well, let's think about that while we talk about the case. William Park: Okay, let's do case. Julian Tindle: Uh I'm kinda liking the idea of latex, if if spongy Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: is the in thing. William Park: I'm a little um I'm a little hesitant about it, because I'm worried about protecting the stuff on the inside. Julian Tindle: Okay. William Park: Um Roland Brown: Oh could it be hard, and then Julian Tindle: Uh yeah, Roland Brown: something around Julian Tindle: everything Roland Brown: it? Julian Tindle: I've William Park: Yeah, I would be more okay with like a titanium actual thing and then maybe Julian Tindle: N oh William Park: like Julian Tindle: wha William Park: a mobile phone Julian Tindle: what I've William Park: kind of thing. Julian Tindle: what I've seen, just not related to this, William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: but of latex cases before, is that there's uh like a hard plastic inside, and it's just covered with the latex. William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: Not too thick a layer William Park: Mm-hmm. Julian Tindle: of latex, just enough to be grippable, William Park: Okay. Julian Tindle: like bike handles or or anything that you've seen like that. The inside is hard. I don't think we need to worry about protecting William Park: Ge o Julian Tindle: the circuit board, I think that that's done for us. William Park: Okay. Basil Phipps: 'Kay. Yeah. William Park: So we uh we do want latex. Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: Okay. Latex. Um and probably in colours, maybe fruity, vegetable colours. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: Fruity colours. Okay um let's go to the ufe user interface then we'll come back to the chip I suppose. Julian Tindle: Oh and we want a curved case, yeah? Or a double-curved? William Park: Well, we don't really know what the difference is, right? Roland Brown: I'm thinking curved of some sort. William Park: Yeah. Julian Tindle: Yeah, Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: okay. We don't really know what the difference William Park: Um okay, interface, the type and the supplements. So Basil Phipps: Um William Park: push or scroll, right? Basil Phipps: Yep. William Park: Or both? Basil Phipps: Um And I think if we wanna keep our costs down, we should just go for pushbuttons, 'cause then we can have a a simple chip and it's simpler, it's it's cheaper to make pushbuttons than it is a scroll button. Julian Tindle: Good point. Basil Phipps: So in terms William Park: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: of uh in terms of uh economics it's probably better to have pushbuttons. William Park: And if we had a sc an on-screen um kind of thing that you could scroll through, like you can use your buttons to scroll through things. Basil Phipps: Yeah, yeah, it's uh William Park: I think Basil Phipps: it's William Park: that Basil Phipps: it's fairly simple. William Park: yeah. For channel surfing I think a scroll an actual like an iPod's kind of scroll thing would be too fast, Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: I dunno. Julian Tindle: I say pushbuttons at least unless we get any information but I have no idea how much more expensive a scroll wheel is than than a pushbutton, but it's gotta be some more expensive, so Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: I think it might be better to put our money into the stuff like the kinetic battery and the cool case William Park: Mm-hmm. Basil Phipps: Yeah. Julian Tindle: because William Park: Is that okay Basil Phipps: Interesting. William Park: with you? How you feeling? Roland Brown: Yeah. And let's like see if we get anything else. I mean I'm not like hard-sold on the scroll wheel, it's more just to give it a different kind of look, William Park: Mm-hmm. Roland Brown: but if it's gonna be in a latex type thing William Park: It might Roland Brown: and that's William Park: be cool Roland Brown: gonna look William Park: enough. Roland Brown: cool, then that's probably gonna have a bigger impact than the scroll wheel. Julian Tindle: Yeah. William Park: Okay, so we're gonna go with um type pushbuttons, Basil Phipps: Yep. William Park: and then supplements, how are we gonna do that? Basil Phipps: Uh what do you mean by supplements, exactly? William Park: Um I assume that's what else we're gonna like h ha the um the additional buttons we can use. Basil Phipps: Um Julian Tindle: Oh. William Park: So we're gonna have like a menu button, Basil Phipps: Yep. William Park: so that we can access on-screen things Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: then? Okay, um Julian Tindle: Alright. William Park: so Basil Phipps: Um William Park: we're Basil Phipps: in William Park: doing an on-screen menu Julian Tindle: So what William Park: that Julian Tindle: are William Park: we Basil Phipps: Yeah. William Park: can Julian Tindle: what William Park: scroll Julian Tindle: are our William Park: through. Julian Tindle: buttons gonna be? On off Basil Phipps: On off, uh volume, favourite channels, uh Julian Tindle: So like one Basil Phipps: and Julian Tindle: through Basil Phipps: menu. Julian Tindle: five, or Basil Phipps: Yeah, Roland Brown: Like a Basil Phipps: yeah Roland Brown: radio Basil Phipps: about Roland Brown: type sorta situation? Basil Phipps: yeah like yeah, a bit like radio presets. Um William Park: Pre-set channels and then we're gonna need um numbers one through zero, right? Basil Phipps: Uh we wouldn't even need Julian Tindle: No. Basil Phipps: the numbers. I think maybe numbers seems is kind of William Park: Well, Basil Phipps: old-fashioned. William Park: but in order to pre-set a cha oh I guess you can just hold it down Basil Phipps: Yeah, William Park: when you get Basil Phipps: yeah, William Park: to one Basil Phipps: you can just Julian Tindle: Mm. William Park: when you're scrolling through. Basil Phipps: and you need some kind of, I dunno, sort of up down kind of button, Julian Tindle: Yeah, Basil Phipps: but Julian Tindle: up Basil Phipps: the volume Julian Tindle: down. Basil Phipps: control could double for that, for example. William Park: Mm-hmm. Okay, um finishing the meeting now. Um our next meeting starts in thirty minutes, um you each have things to do, look and feel design, user interface design, product evaluation, and you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. You'll get specific Julian Tindle: Ooh. William Park: instructions Basil Phipps: Cool. William Park: from your personal coach. Roland Brown: Wow. William Park: Um did we decide on a chip? Let's go with a simple chip? Julian Tindle: Simple chip. Basil Phipps: Yep. William Park: Okay. We are done. Thank you everyone. Oh I di these are already in our shared folder, Julian Tindle: Okay, cool. William Park: so. Julian Tindle: Clay. Basil Phipps: Clay. I wasn't expecting that.

William Park recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Julian Tindle discussed possible materials to use in making the case for the remote, options for buttons, and options for batteries. The interface specialist presented two existing products which incorporate features the team is seeking to embed in their remote. The interface specialist also discussed other features to possibly incorporate into the design of the remote, such as an LCD screen. Roland Brown discussed recent findings from trend watching reports and how to incorporate these findings into the remote design with respect to what materials to use and the overall appearance of the product. The team then discussed other options for how they could incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the appearance of their product. The team then discussed other options for batteries, chips, buttons, and materials for the case, as well as the option to have a menu function.

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Robert Pruett: Okay um, welcome to our detailed design meeting I'm. pretty excited. Let's start it's approximately fifteen forty or something like that. Okay um the agenda we're gonna do an opening and then um I'll talk about the minutes from the last meeting, what we d discussed um, then we'll have the prototype presentation and a look at the evaluation criteria. We'll look at the finances and finally a do a production evaluation and close. So, starting off with the um last the last one, oh I don't have it here um, but we talked about energy, we're gonna use a kinetic battery um, we want to use a simple chip, because we're not gonna need a a shuffle um, we're gonna need a scroll um, we're choosing a latex case w in fruity colours that's curved and um we're using push buttons uh with a supplement of an on-screen menu. And it sounded like we had set um like eight or nine buttons, including five pre-set channels. Okay? Let's do the look and feel design presentation first. Ismael Myers: Right, do you wanna start? Henry Simoneau: Right, well we made three different prototypes and I guess we'll start with with this one. Um we have our colours not are not fixed, but this is the general shape. Um it's you hold it sort of either like like this in your left hand or you switch it over and uh it's easily adaptable to either hand. You can push the buttons with your thumb like a mobile phone, or you can push them with your index finger of your other hand, or even mean there's whole variety, you can hold it like this and press it with your same index finger. Uh we have the on off button at the tip, very visible, very big. We have our up and down buttons, which are also gonna be our channel selectors, and we have our little menu button here. If you push if you're just pushing these normally, they're the menu buttons, if uh the volume buttons rather. If you press select once, they become channel changing buttons. If we press select three times, the menu with the other features and pro possibly also with your T_V_ channel choices shows up, and you have your five presets down here. Um if people wanna grab hold of that, see how it feels in your hand. That's our number one prototype. Um do you wanna present the potato, Robert Pruett: like a little Henry Simoneau: or Robert Pruett: lightning Henry Simoneau: shall I Ismael Myers: Okay, Henry Simoneau: present Robert Pruett: in it. Henry Simoneau: the Martian? Ismael Myers: um Robert Pruett: The little lightning bolt in it, Ismael Myers: What Robert Pruett: very cute. Ismael Myers: We call that one Jerry Wilburn: I could Ismael Myers: the rhombus, uh Robert Pruett: The v the rhombus Ismael Myers: the rhombus. Henry Simoneau: That's Robert Pruett: rhombus? Henry Simoneau: the rhombus, yep. Ismael Myers: Um this one is known as the potato, uh it's it's a how can I present it? It's an ergonomic shape, so it it fits in your hand nicely. Um it's designed to be used either in your left hand or or in your right hand. Um I've gone here just for just for four buttons on this one. Um two here for adjusting. So you've got volume up and volume down on the other side here. Um the red ones are for uh changing channels, channel up and channel down and that's um moves between your favourite channels that you've selected. Uh this middle button here brings up the on-screen menu and when you're working in the on-screen menu you use the other four buttons to navigate around the menu system and the middle button uh to select and that's basically it, that's the potato. Robert Pruett: Um on, off? Ismael Myers: Uh that would be one of your channels, basically, so Robert Pruett: Okay. Ismael Myers: like channel zero would be t to switch Robert Pruett: Yeah we turn Ismael Myers: switch Robert Pruett: it off. Ismael Myers: the machine off, yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Could the middle button of the on-screen menu function as a power button? Ismael Myers: Um not really, it would make it hard to turn Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: the machine off, to turn your T_V_ off. Henry Simoneau: If you pressed and held it maybe. Ismael Myers: Yeah Jerry Wilburn: If you like Ismael Myers: yeah, Jerry Wilburn: held Ismael Myers: that Jerry Wilburn: it down, Ismael Myers: that'd be one Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: way of doing it, yeah. Jerry Wilburn: that would be Ismael Myers: That'd Jerry Wilburn: on Ismael Myers: work, Henry Simoneau: On Jerry Wilburn: off. Henry Simoneau: off, that's Ismael Myers: yeah. Henry Simoneau: a possibility, yeah. Robert Pruett: Okay. Henry Simoneau: And then finally we have um the Martian or the pear, either way. Um it's a bit different, just a little bit more of a creative feel. Uh you have the on off toggle stem on the top. We have the five preset seeds. And then you have on the sides to make it a little bit more three-dimensional, you have your channel changing, volume changing buttons and your menu button right here in the middle. So, that's for your consideration as well, Ismael Myers: Let's pass. Henry Simoneau: plus it's an interesting talking point to have standing up. We figured it could stand up like this on your table, Robert Pruett: Uh-huh. Henry Simoneau: if you wanted it to, if I made the bot the bottom flat. Jerry Wilburn: Sorry, what's the yellow one in the middle, I forgot. Henry Simoneau: Uh the menu select button. Robert Pruett: Very interesting. I Ismael Myers: So that's Robert Pruett: think that one's my favourite. Ismael Myers: So that's our three prototypes. Um basically, in terms of making decisions, what we'd need to do is first of all decide on a form uh which of the three different shapes we want, then decide what kind of button layout we want, how many buttons, and then to choose what colours we want to make the buttons and if we wanna put any text on the device, like label on the buttons or put a brand name or or Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: a logo on it or whatever. Henry Simoneau: We were we were thinking that normally we'd go for fruity colours, but maybe we're also thinking that your sort of middle aged man, for an example customer, might not want a fruity coloured remote, so m maybe we'd have one version that's a bit toned down, Robert Pruett: Mm 'kay. Henry Simoneau: maybe with with less contrasts on it. Yeah, Ismael Myers: Would Henry Simoneau: something still a little bright to make it Ismael Myers: Yeah, Henry Simoneau: hard to lose, but Ismael Myers: but we don't want it to look like a kids' toy. Henry Simoneau: yeah. Robert Pruett: Now that was one thing that we brought up over email. I don't know if you picked up your email, Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: but um the f the um feature that we considered for it not getting lost. Henry Simoneau: Right. Well we were we were talking about that a little bit when we got that email and we think that each of these are so distinctive, that it it's not just like another piece of technology around your house. It's gonna be somewhere that it can be seen. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: So we're we're not thinking that it's gonna be as critical Jerry Wilburn: But if it's like under Henry Simoneau: to have Jerry Wilburn: covers Henry Simoneau: the loss Jerry Wilburn: or like in a couch you still Robert Pruett: It's Jerry Wilburn: can't Robert Pruett: really Jerry Wilburn: see it. Robert Pruett: Would it be very difficult to um just have an external device that like I dunno, you tape to your to your T_V_ um that when you press it you ha a little light beep goes off? Do you think that would be conceptually possible? Ismael Myers: I Henry Simoneau: I think Ismael Myers: think it would be difficult technologically, Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: because if your if your remote's lost it's probably under the settee and in that case you can't you can't send an infrared sing signal to it to Robert Pruett: Mm. Ismael Myers: find it, s so it's I'm not quite sure Robert Pruett: That's true, Ismael Myers: how it Robert Pruett: mm Ismael Myers: would work Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: and Robert Pruett: 'kay. Ismael Myers: then I wonder if it's if it's more just a gimmick then anything else. Uh I mean ho how many times do you really, seriously lose your remote control and would would a device like that actually help you to find it? Henry Simoneau: There might be something that you can do in the circuit board and the chip to make it make a noise or something, but it would take a lot more development Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: than we have this afternoon. Robert Pruett: Okay, that's a fair evaluation. Getting lost. Um we so we do we've decided not to worry about that for now. Okay 'cause well, the designs are very bright, so you're right, they're gonna stick out, but um Henry Simoneau: So d do people have a preference as far as feel and functionality? Um. Jerry Wilburn: I feel like this is simil or it's sort of what already exists so if we're trying to think of something sort of like new and fun, even though this what you're init I'm initially drawn to, just 'cause it's like comfortable and like not different. I sort of like this one, like I I don't know why, it just it's like small but still sort of like cute looking, I dunno. But I also like the b the side buttons on that one, Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: like I think that's kind of neat. But I dunno how much any of this has to do with the fashionable, sort of cool looking thing that we also need to focus on. Robert Pruett: Could we maybe have like an extra button on the top for on off? So then w we wouldn't Henry Simoneau: Mm Jerry Wilburn: Ah, Ismael Myers: Yeah, Robert Pruett: have to Ismael Myers: it's Robert Pruett: have like Ismael Myers: possible, Robert Pruett: a dual Henry Simoneau: yeah, Robert Pruett: function? Henry Simoneau: that's Jerry Wilburn: there we Ismael Myers: yeah, Jerry Wilburn: go. Henry Simoneau: good, that's good. Ismael Myers: yeah. Henry Simoneau: Here, stick it on. Ismael Myers: Put an extra the Robert Pruett: Sure. Ismael Myers: button on. Robert Pruett: Um uh why don't we do a product evaluation using your criteria, if you've Jerry Wilburn: Well Robert Pruett: developed Jerry Wilburn: do we w Robert Pruett: some? Jerry Wilburn: like I think we're supposed to have one that we do it for. Robert Pruett: Oh okay. Okay. Jerry Wilburn: That was Henry Simoneau: So where Jerry Wilburn: I was a little vague on what exactly I'm supposed to do, but let Jerry Wilburn I have to like write something on Robert Pruett: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: the whiteboard, so. Robert Pruett: Do you need this or just write on the white Jerry Wilburn: No, Robert Pruett: board? Jerry Wilburn: I actually don't have like a PowerPointy thing, Robert Pruett: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: 'cause Henry Simoneau: Right. Jerry Wilburn: I think it would be redundant. Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: I dunno. Robert Pruett: It's kind of like uh Henry Simoneau: Ooh. Robert Pruett: like a joystick kind of thing, you know, kinda push it. Ismael Myers: Cool. Henry Simoneau: Hey. Robert Pruett: 'Kay. Maybe a little smaller than that. Henry Simoneau: No, I kinda like it. That's hard to miss. Ismael Myers: It makes look more fruity as well. Robert Pruett: Oh it does, it's kind of like Ismael Myers: It's like a deformed foot, I dunno. Robert Pruett: There it could have a stem like that, 'cause I do l kind of like the stem. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: Like Robert Pruett: Yeah. It almost helps you ge keep a grip too, 'cause it goes Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: in between Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: fingers. Henry Simoneau: Interesting. Robert Pruett: I like this one. Henry Simoneau: Okay, is that Robert Pruett: Variety Henry Simoneau: where people Robert Pruett: of colours Henry Simoneau: are leaning Robert Pruett: are Henry Simoneau: then, Robert Pruett: nice. Henry Simoneau: the potato? I like the idea Robert Pruett: I think Henry Simoneau: of the Robert Pruett: I'm leaning towards the potato. Henry Simoneau: I mean that's really gotten the simplicity of the buttons down, that one. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. I am worried about like um using a menu. Um in that like i withing menus there are submenus, Henry Simoneau: Hmm. Robert Pruett: and so how do you Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: get back to the main menu? Henry Simoneau: Well that on the iPod, for example, you just every time you wanna go back you hit the menu button again and it brings you back one level. Robert Pruett: But that has a menu button separate from a select button, whereas if Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: this one's both the Henry Simoneau: Good Robert Pruett: menu Henry Simoneau: point. Robert Pruett: and the select button? Ismael Myers: This is, it's the up and down buttons are used for scrolling up and down for a list of choices. Robert Pruett: Okay. Ismael Myers: You find the choice that you want and you press uh you press the right button uh. Robert Pruett: Could these Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: be used for going to Ismael Myers: Yeah, Robert Pruett: submenus Ismael Myers: so they're used Robert Pruett: or Ismael Myers: for going into and Henry Simoneau: Maybe Ismael Myers: out of your submenus, Henry Simoneau: yeah, Ismael Myers: yeah. Henry Simoneau: maybe it can Robert Pruett: Okay. Henry Simoneau: be one of those, if you press down and hold for two seconds, then it brings you back one level or something. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, as long as we have that in mind as we're designing it still, mm 'kay. Jerry Wilburn: Okay, so which one are we sort of roughly looking at to address whether or not it meets our s um necessities, the yellowy one is that Henry Simoneau: The potato? Are we leaning Ismael Myers: Potato. Henry Simoneau: towards the potato? Robert Pruett: I think so. Jerry Wilburn: Okay, well we can obviously change it after we go through each different Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: one. So basically what we need to do is some of the things that we've talked about before we need to make sure that that remote actually does Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: conform to the things that we said it was going to. So what we sort of wanna do is that we each need to separately rank each of the following things and then I'll tabulate an average just to make sure Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: that it does meet that. So we'll just go through them one at a time and we'll just go around and each of you can tell Jerry Wilburn on a scale of one to seven with one being really extremely true and seven being not true at all, or false, if the remote that we've created conforms to the following criteria. So we can do this one first. First we wanna know if it meets the fancy look and feel um objective. So like in my opinion the for now at least, the yellow one is probably somewhere in the middle so I'm gonna say it's like a three. That's just my opinion. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: What does each of you Robert Pruett: I I kind of think it's it's unique enough that I'd give it a one or a two. Jerry Wilburn: Okay, well give it a number, Robert Pruett: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: sorry. Robert Pruett: I will give it a one. Henry Simoneau: Um I dunno if it's it's creative. I dunno if fancy is the word I would use. I dunno if any of them are fancy in I'd say two, because Jerry Wilburn: Okay. Henry Simoneau: c unique. Jerry Wilburn: And Ismael Myers: I'll go for two. Jerry Wilburn: two, awesome. Alright, and same sort of scale for functionality, is it functional? I think it's extremely functional, I'm gonna give it a one. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, one. Jerry Wilburn: One? Ismael Myers: I think it's it's functional, it's also pretty basic, so I'll give it a two. Jerry Wilburn: Okay. Robert Pruett: Um functional. I think it'll get everything done, I think it might be a little confusing at first, um, Jerry Wilburn: Okay. Well there's some Robert Pruett: I Jerry Wilburn: other Robert Pruett: don't know if that's Jerry Wilburn: ones, Robert Pruett: gonna Jerry Wilburn: I Robert Pruett: be Jerry Wilburn: will Robert Pruett: a later Jerry Wilburn: address Robert Pruett: one. Jerry Wilburn: that, yeah. Robert Pruett: Okay, then I'm gonna give it a two. Jerry Wilburn: Awesome, okay. Um we wanna know next if it's technologically innovative. Robert Pruett: Did you give a functional? Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, she said it was one. Robert Pruett: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: Um is it technologically innovative? Mm. Not really, I mean not so much, 'cause we we don't have the L_C_D_ screen, we don't have fancy chip. Other than what it looks like, I dunno if it's Robert Pruett: Well, the kinetic Jerry Wilburn: really Robert Pruett: battery. Henry Simoneau: In the battery, Jerry Wilburn: I Henry Simoneau: that's it. Jerry Wilburn: kinetic battery is a big one, so. Henry Simoneau: How many people Jerry Wilburn: Mm. Henry Simoneau: would notice that, though? Jerry Wilburn: But it Robert Pruett: But Jerry Wilburn: but Robert Pruett: they'll notice Jerry Wilburn: we know Robert Pruett: it after Jerry Wilburn: it's there. Robert Pruett: like a year, they'll be like hey, I have never changed the battery. Jerry Wilburn: And if it's made of like latex, that whole Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: idea, that's pretty cool. I'll Robert Pruett: Just Jerry Wilburn: give it Robert Pruett: the Jerry Wilburn: a Robert Pruett: material. Jerry Wilburn: three. 'Cause it we could've picked a lot of features that would've made it really Henry Simoneau: Yeah. I I would say that it's Yeah, like fancy versus creative it's it's different. But does that equal innovative? I dunno. I'll give it a three. Jerry Wilburn: Alright. Everyone else? Ismael Myers: I'd say it's technologically it's not it's not unique, I mean it's it's just it is just pushbuttons um, so I I'd give it a four. Robert Pruett: Think I'm gonna go with the four as well. Jerry Wilburn: Mm 'kay. Robert Pruett: I really like that kinetic battery though. Jerry Wilburn: Next, is it easy to use? Just so you know, easy to learn will be separate, Robert Pruett: Mm Jerry Wilburn: so don't Robert Pruett: 'kay. Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: overlap them. I think it's really easy to use. I'll give it a two. Henry Simoneau: Um I'll give it a one. Pretty hard to mess up. Ismael Myers: I'll say one. Robert Pruett: Uh let's say two. Jerry Wilburn: Alright. Um we next wanna see if it has a spongy quality and if indeed it's made of latex or rubber I it's spongy all the way. Robert Pruett: Give it a one. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: I wonder if it bounces when you drop it. Henry Simoneau: Ooh, Jerry Wilburn: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: that you couldn't it'd be harder to break, harder to lose. Robert Pruett: Mm. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: 'Cause there would be less impact maybe, Jerry Wilburn: Iain, what Henry Simoneau: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: do you give Ismael Myers: Yeah Jerry Wilburn: it? Ismael Myers: I'd I'd give it a one. Jerry Wilburn: Alright and the next is, does it integrate some notion of fruits and vegetables? Ismael Myers: Uh um. Jerry Wilburn: Well, is it gonna be yellow? Henry Simoneau: It it might be, 'cause that's our corporate colour, isn't it? Robert Pruett: That's right, yeah, corporate Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: colour, we didn't keep that in Henry Simoneau: We might Robert Pruett: um Henry Simoneau: wanna keep it yellow. Robert Pruett: well if we I know it would make it a little less c a little more confusing, but if we had all the buttons in black, and a design in and the outside in yellow, that'd be our corporate one and we could also have alternative colours, one a more conservative one, one Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, Robert Pruett: that's Jerry Wilburn: but if Robert Pruett: more Jerry Wilburn: you had Robert Pruett: fruity. Jerry Wilburn: like a silvery kind of white or something. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: Yeah, Robert Pruett: Um and Henry Simoneau: If Robert Pruett: can Henry Simoneau: we Robert Pruett: we Henry Simoneau: had Robert Pruett: have Henry Simoneau: a yellow Robert Pruett: like an R_R_ inscribed on the bottom or something? Henry Simoneau: Sure. Robert Pruett: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: Oh, Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: yeah. Alright, so Robert Pruett: Fruity, Henry Simoneau: So, Jerry Wilburn: I think it Robert Pruett: so Jerry Wilburn: it's Robert Pruett: fruity. Henry Simoneau: so I think Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: it's pretty Robert Pruett: I Henry Simoneau: fruity. Robert Pruett: think i it's kind of mangoey too. Henry Simoneau: Oh, Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Ismael Myers: Mangoey Henry Simoneau: mango Jerry Wilburn: I Ismael Myers: is Jerry Wilburn: okay, Ismael Myers: better, Robert Pruett: Yes. Ismael Myers: yeah. Henry Simoneau: that Jerry Wilburn: I'm giving Ismael Myers: I Jerry Wilburn: it a one Henry Simoneau: that Jerry Wilburn: the mango Ismael Myers: like mangoes. Jerry Wilburn: put Jerry Wilburn over. Robert Pruett: Mm. Henry Simoneau: That's a much more trendy than a potato Jerry Wilburn: What are what's everyone's numbers? Henry Simoneau: one. Ismael Myers: Uh two. Robert Pruett: One. Jerry Wilburn: Alright um, and does the design match the appropriate behaviour? Remember earlier we discussed that people don't use a lot of buttons, that they use the channel flipping and the volume the most. I think we really took that into account a lot, so I'm gonna give it a one. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, Jerry Wilburn too. Ismael Myers: Uh one. Jerry Wilburn: Did you say one, Rose? Robert Pruett: Yes. Jerry Wilburn: Okay um, also we talked earlier about R_S_I_ and wanting to prevent um any sort of like Carpal Tunnely kind of thing. Do we think that the latex sort of grip appropriately takes that into account? I think I'll give it a two, matter what you do, something Robert Pruett: It's gonna Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: is Robert Pruett: be Jerry Wilburn: gonna Robert Pruett: hard. Jerry Wilburn: happen. Ismael Myers: Yeah, yeah. Robert Pruett: And if it's repetitive movement it is gonna be only four buttons that you're constantly pushing, but um Jerry Wilburn: Um um worth the risk, Robert Pruett: I Jerry Wilburn: I Robert Pruett: like Jerry Wilburn: think. Robert Pruett: how it fits in the hand though Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: I'd go with a two. Henry Simoneau: I'll I'll say two as well. Because older people that aren't used to like texting with the thumb might find it a bit Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: 'Kay. Henry Simoneau: at first, but Ismael Myers: Yeah I'll I'll say two. Jerry Wilburn: Alright, awesome. And the ease of learning it. I know you were saying that you're a little bit nervous about that, I dunno. It sort of reminds Jerry Wilburn of the iPod. I just got mine, I still haven't read the instruction book and I'm doing okay, Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: so and I'm not good at learning technology. So I'll give it a two. Henry Simoneau: The menu system and the the fact that multiple buttons are used for different things might be a bit confusing, but I think if it's one it's one of those things that it might take you five minutes to figure out, but you'll have it afterwards. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: So I'd I think I'd give it a two I guess. Ismael Myers: I think it it's probably a little harder then most remotes to learn, because you have to you have to use the menu system and you have to tell it what your favourite channels are and Henry Simoneau: Oh, Ismael Myers: that Henry Simoneau: good Ismael Myers: could Henry Simoneau: point. Ismael Myers: take a bit of learning at first, Jerry Wilburn: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: but once you've, yeah once you'd learned how to use it, I think it is a lot easier. So I'd I'd give it a four. Jerry Wilburn: Okay. Robert Pruett: I think I'd give it a four too. It's a pretty high learning curve, it'll be easy once you've done it, but Jerry Wilburn: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Alright, um also earlier we had something about losing it and so now we're not addressing that at all, so Robert Pruett: We we I think we can kind of say we addressed it with colour, Jerry Wilburn: Okay, so Robert Pruett: but Jerry Wilburn: in terms of not losing it, do you think that on a scale of one to seven, how easy or hard is it to lose? I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four, 'cause I think that you can still if it's in between somewhere where you can't see it, you're kind of not gonna find it, but Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: anywhere Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: else it's gonna stand out. Henry Simoneau: Um I'd say I'd give it uh a three, I guess it depends on how tidy you are normally. Robert Pruett: Mm I'd give it a four. Ismael Myers: Um I'll give it a five 'cause i it would be easy to lose something like Robert Pruett: Small Ismael Myers: that, Robert Pruett: too. Ismael Myers: yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Alright, we also said simplicity, how w how well does it address just being simple? Henry Simoneau: Simple to use or simple in design? Do you Jerry Wilburn: I Henry Simoneau: know? Jerry Wilburn: think overall, 'cause we had said before our two main things were simplicity and fashion, so those are the next two things we're gonna look at. Separate from fancy, like Henry Simoneau: Right. Jerry Wilburn: that sort of thing. Um it like wants to be simple but it's not like totally totally simple, so I'm gonna give it a two. Henry Simoneau: I'm give it a three I guess. Ismael Myers: I'll give it a two. Robert Pruett: Three. Jerry Wilburn: Alright, and fashionable? Robert Pruett: It's totally fashionable. Jerry Wilburn: It's Robert Pruett: I'd Jerry Wilburn: hot, Robert Pruett: give it a one. Jerry Wilburn: I mean it's a mango, come on. Robert Pruett: Mango. Jerry Wilburn: I mean how fashionable can you make a remote? I think it's bringing technology and fashion together real really well. Henry Simoneau: I dunno. I don't think it's quite as fashionable as my robot remote Robert Pruett: I do like uh the little Henry Simoneau: or Robert Pruett: Martian Henry Simoneau: alien Robert Pruett: one. Henry Simoneau: or whatever he was. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, the toggle on off switch, it's really appealing. Number. Henry Simoneau: Um two. Ismael Myers: Three. Robert Pruett: One. Jerry Wilburn: And does it meet our like demographic need sort of for international appeal, that whole thing? Just that it would se serve our audience. I don't see why not. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. I think as long if we offer in a in at least three different colour arrangements. Um Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: yeah, Jerry Wilburn: Mm-hmm. Robert Pruett: that's good. So I'll give it a a two. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, I'll say two. Jerry Wilburn: Alright, did anyone have any other features that they think were important that we didn't talk about? Robert Pruett: Well um we didn't we didn't address the fact that it does need to b have a corporate logo, so let's let's make sure we keep that in mind that we ha that one of our colours concepts is Henry Simoneau: Shall Robert Pruett: corporate Henry Simoneau: we uh Robert Pruett: and has an R_R_ on it. Henry Simoneau: Well I think all of them Robert Pruett: All Henry Simoneau: should Robert Pruett: of them Henry Simoneau: have Robert Pruett: should Henry Simoneau: an Robert Pruett: have Henry Simoneau: R_R_. Robert Pruett: R_R_, yeah. Jerry Wilburn: And so we're gonna do that, so it will address Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: it, Robert Pruett: Mm Jerry Wilburn: fine. Robert Pruett: 'kay. Jerry Wilburn: Okay. That's Robert Pruett: Lovely. Jerry Wilburn: Jerry Wilburn. Robert Pruett: Okay, now we're gonna look at finances. Um I have an Excel sheet that we're actually gonna calculate the cost um, so let Jerry Wilburn exit out of this first. Okay um Jerry Wilburn: Whoa. Henry Simoneau: Oh my. Robert Pruett: I know. Let Jerry Wilburn one more space. Gonna zoom in real quick. Okay. Hand dynamo. We're using Henry Simoneau: Uh Robert Pruett: kinetic Henry Simoneau: we're Robert Pruett: battery, Henry Simoneau: n using Robert Pruett: right? Henry Simoneau: kinetic, yeah. Robert Pruett: Um and we're having one per Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: One, okay. Um electronics. Henry Simoneau: Single. Simple, Robert Pruett: Simple. Jerry Wilburn: Simple. Henry Simoneau: simple rather. Robert Pruett: Mm 'kay. Um the case. Henry Simoneau: Uh uh uh Ismael Myers: Guess Henry Simoneau: double-curved. Ismael Myers: it's double-curved. It is pretty curvy. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Robert Pruett: It's very curvy, so okay. Henry Simoneau: Yeah I never did get a picture of those so I don't really know. Our case material supplements oops, we just skipped Jerry Wilburn: Well Henry Simoneau: by Jerry Wilburn: don't Henry Simoneau: them. Jerry Wilburn: we need plastic, and Henry Simoneau: No, we we the plastic is the plastic for the inside is assumed. Jerry Wilburn: Provided, Henry Simoneau: The Jerry Wilburn: okay. Henry Simoneau: supplement is Robert Pruett: The wood? Henry Simoneau: Oh, I guess it was rubber rather Robert Pruett: I mean Henry Simoneau: than Jerry Wilburn: It was Robert Pruett: the Jerry Wilburn: rubber Henry Simoneau: latex. Robert Pruett: rubber. Jerry Wilburn: and special colour, right? Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm, okay. Jerry Wilburn: Do we have more than one special colour? Robert Pruett: Yeah, Henry Simoneau: Uh Robert Pruett: we're using Henry Simoneau: well Robert Pruett: we're gonna Ismael Myers: Special colours, Robert Pruett: need at least Ismael Myers: isn't Robert Pruett: two Ismael Myers: it? Robert Pruett: special colours. Um. Henry Simoneau: I don't know what Jerry Wilburn: Per Henry Simoneau: the se the basic colour Robert Pruett: I Henry Simoneau: is Robert Pruett: dunno Henry Simoneau: though. Robert Pruett: where it yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Well, but we know that we're having at least three colours, Robert Pruett: So Jerry Wilburn: so Robert Pruett: let's y say Henry Simoneau: Well, Robert Pruett: three. Henry Simoneau: are we talking about on each colour combination or are we, you know, we'll like we'll have yellow and black. Is that two special colours? Robert Pruett: Yeah, I dunno. Henry Simoneau: Or Robert Pruett: That Henry Simoneau: or Robert Pruett: I thi Henry Simoneau: is Robert Pruett: I Henry Simoneau: white and Robert Pruett: thought Henry Simoneau: black, Robert Pruett: that would be under Henry Simoneau: then Robert Pruett: yours. Henry Simoneau: two more or Uh. I guess it's three, Robert Pruett: We'll just say three. Henry Simoneau: three three. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: Right. Henry Simoneau: Alright. Robert Pruett: Maybe the R_R_ will be in colour as well, so yeah. Interface, we're doing push buttons. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: And how many buttons do we Jerry Wilburn: We Robert Pruett: have? Jerry Wilburn: have Ismael Myers: We've got Jerry Wilburn: six. Ismael Myers: five. Jerry Wilburn: Oh Henry Simoneau: Six, Jerry Wilburn: no, Ismael Myers: Oh Robert Pruett: Six. Jerry Wilburn: five. Ismael Myers: six. Henry Simoneau: with the power. Yeah. Robert Pruett: Anything else? Henry Simoneau: No. Oh, we'll do we wa Are the buttons in special colour, special f I didn't get information on Jerry Wilburn: Oh wait. Robert Pruett: Oh, buttons oh, so um. So the case material will just have one colour, right, but Henry Simoneau: Well, Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Robert Pruett: then the buttons Henry Simoneau: does it Robert Pruett: will be in special colours? Henry Simoneau: but if we're making multiple varieties of this is where I'm getting confused. Robert Pruett: We're saying per unit. Henry Simoneau: per unit, Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, per Henry Simoneau: okay, Jerry Wilburn: unit. Robert Pruett: Okay, Henry Simoneau: okay. Robert Pruett: so each unit will only have one colour Henry Simoneau: Alright, and each Robert Pruett: on their Henry Simoneau: button Robert Pruett: but the case is Henry Simoneau: s Robert Pruett: could have up to thr I mean the buttons could ea could be up to three colours, 'cause that Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Robert Pruett: how it's designed there. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: I like Henry Simoneau: Yeah, Jerry Wilburn: it like that. Robert Pruett: So Henry Simoneau: okay. Robert Pruett: Special form? They're all kind of just push button, Henry Simoneau: No, I think Robert Pruett: right? Ismael Myers: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: they're fine. Robert Pruett: Special material? Henry Simoneau: Material, we want them rubber as well probably, yeah. Robert Pruett: Uh. Oh do I have to do it per button, do I? Henry Simoneau: No, I don't think so. I think they're if they're all Robert Pruett: Okay. Henry Simoneau: gonna be rubber then it that's what it matters. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, 'cause Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: it wouldn't make sense Robert Pruett: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: otherwise, 'cause for the whole mat case material it's only one. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: It's I mean it's two to make it rubber. Henry Simoneau: Okay. Jerry Wilburn: Oh wait, so maybe. Robert Pruett: Thirteen point seven. Henry Simoneau: Oh oh. Robert Pruett: Yeah, what can we reduce? Henry Simoneau: Okay, let's have our buttons all be one colour. Jerry Wilburn: Mm, I kind of like Robert Pruett: Let's Jerry Wilburn: the Robert Pruett: see Jerry Wilburn: buttons. Robert Pruett: what that would do. It's only gonna bring us down to thirteen point three anyway. Henry Simoneau: Alright. Robert Pruett: Okay um, Henry Simoneau: Uh. Robert Pruett: are we sure this is double-curved? Maybe it's single-curved, Henry Simoneau: We have no idea. Robert Pruett: we have no idea. Henry Simoneau: I dunno, I didn't get any pictures. Jerry Wilburn: It's Henry Simoneau: It's single curved. Jerry Wilburn: single curved. Henry Simoneau: Why not? Robert Pruett: Well it's not the yeah. Okay, it's the kinetic battery that's kind of expensive, but we have a simple chip, single curve, case material is rubber and it's a special colour, Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: but that's important. Henry Simoneau: That is important. Robert Pruett: Six buttons Henry Simoneau: How did Robert Pruett: we Henry Simoneau: it get Robert Pruett: have Henry Simoneau: more Robert Pruett: to Henry Simoneau: expensive, Robert Pruett: have six buttons. Henry Simoneau: what did you just change? Robert Pruett: What? Henry Simoneau: It was it was thirteen and now it's fifteen. Robert Pruett: No, okay, maybe not. I don't know what just happened. Now it's Jerry Wilburn: We Robert Pruett: twelve. Ismael Myers: What was our target price again? Henry Simoneau: Twelve Robert Pruett: Twelve Henry Simoneau: point five. Robert Pruett: point five. Henry Simoneau: Hey Ismael Myers: Twelve Henry Simoneau: hey. Ismael Myers: point five. So we're just Robert Pruett: So we're Ismael Myers: just Robert Pruett: okay, Ismael Myers: about there. Henry Simoneau: We're all Robert Pruett: I think. Henry Simoneau: set then. Robert Pruett: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: Ish. Robert Pruett: Okay, Henry Simoneau: Alright. Robert Pruett: we're all set. Um save. I saved that to our um our big shared folder, so you know. Um okay, back to agenda. Um are the are the costs under twelve fifty Euro? Henry Simoneau: Yes. Robert Pruett: Yes. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: they are. Robert Pruett: Let's move on to the project evaluation. Project process. Satisfaction with for example the room for creativity, leadership, teamwork, the means, any new ideas found. So I guess what we're gonna talk about here is just evaluating how we created this project, the information we got on the news, how we used it, if we were able to um, you know, use our creativity with the information, um how how well I guess I led it, um the how well we worked together as a team, um the digital pens, the whiteboard. Henry Simoneau: Well. Robert Pruett: Okay. Henry Simoneau: I felt very creative. I enjoyed making the prototypes. Ismael Myers: I think we've been successful in that we've achieved almost all of the design goals that we've set Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: and we've come up with a finished project and we just about got cost. Henry Simoneau: I think we could've done even better with a little bit more information, like Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: what's a single-curved case, how many colours, what do colours count Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: things, but given given what we had I think that we did we did really well. Um I think we worked together pretty well. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, I mean if I'd had more market research on the fruits Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: and vegetables, maybe we could've taken that into account. Henry Simoneau: But the fruits and vegetables, they really my creativity, so. Jerry Wilburn: I know, I really did, the the whole mango idea was great. No, I mean Henry Simoneau: Do you think we Jerry Wilburn: I Henry Simoneau: could Jerry Wilburn: thought the pen was a little distracting for Jerry Wilburn personally, like its heaviness, and like just being so conscious of like turning the pages, I dunno. That was a bit of a distraction. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: That was the last one, like I chose not to do a PowerPoint 'cause I didn't think it made sense to, so I liked that I had the option to do that and just to take my own notes and Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: that whole sort of thing. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: I think we all made um very significant contributions, I don't think anybody dominated it, which I thought was really good, like each of us was able to um like each of you had your information and I uh I tried to facilitate it without like taking over, um Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: I like our little finished products. Jerry Wilburn: They're funny. Robert Pruett: Really cute. Jerry Wilburn: I kind of want one. Henry Simoneau: Can we market this as the mango remote? Should we have that somewhere on the packaging? I have a little Jerry Wilburn: I'm Henry Simoneau: R_R_. Jerry Wilburn: trying to think of a good pun that I could add there. Robert Pruett: I know, let's think of it like a little jingle. Um. Jerry Wilburn: I like the R_R_, that's gonna be etched in. Henry Simoneau: Yes. Hopefully not with just my fingernail at some point but um it's quite a useful little gadget. All thanks to Iain for the design of that one. Robert Pruett: Okay um Henry Simoneau: Mm. What did we Robert Pruett: new Henry Simoneau: find Robert Pruett: ideas Henry Simoneau: for new ideas? Robert Pruett: found? Henry Simoneau: People should really base their remotes on fruits and vegetables. Robert Pruett: Definitely. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: Or or at least be c p creative enough to think of toggle switches mm Henry Simoneau: I Robert Pruett: etcetera. Henry Simoneau: I am really into the idea of kinetic batteries now Robert Pruett: Oh, I'm Henry Simoneau: after Robert Pruett: so Henry Simoneau: reading Robert Pruett: excited. Henry Simoneau: about them. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, Henry Simoneau: That Jerry Wilburn: I didn't Henry Simoneau: was Jerry Wilburn: even know they existed. Henry Simoneau: I I knew you can get watches that had them, like really quite expensive watches that just never need a battery, 'cause you're always moving your wrist. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: But in other things, I think it'd be really good. Robert Pruett: I thi yeah, that's awesome. Um okay, closing. Are the costs within the budget? Is the project Henry Simoneau: Yes. Robert Pruett: evaluated? Now there's the final questionnaire and meeting summary. Um so, this is the great product kids, I think we've created something really interesting and that we have a market for it, um Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: especially if we can produce it at twelve point three which we hope um yeah. Make sure in your questionnaire to put down criticisms of both the process and the um the final results and. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah, Real Reaction. Robert Pruett: I do like the Martian remote. If we could choose more than one, that would be my second choice. Jerry Wilburn: Oh, that would definitely be my second choice. Ismael Myers: Mm. Robert Pruett: Although the tog toggle I'm afraid Ismael Myers: That's Robert Pruett: I Ismael Myers: cool. Robert Pruett: would Ismael Myers: Let's Jerry Wilburn: I Ismael Myers: all Jerry Wilburn: would break Ismael Myers: let's all Jerry Wilburn: it. Ismael Myers: go for Robert Pruett: It's Ismael Myers: the Robert Pruett: cool. Ismael Myers: yellow Jerry Wilburn: I would break it. Robert Pruett: I think I would break it. Henry Simoneau: It Ismael Myers: Break Henry Simoneau: started Ismael Myers: the stem Henry Simoneau: because Ismael Myers: off. Henry Simoneau: I wanted to have it as st as a stem and then alright, so Jerry Wilburn: Oh that's funny. Henry Simoneau: Is it started as a pear, but then it started looking more and more like a Martian when I put Jerry Wilburn: Kind Henry Simoneau: the Jerry Wilburn: of looks like a penguin, like with no eye. Robert Pruett: Oh Henry Simoneau: Take Robert Pruett: yeah, it's Henry Simoneau: Jerry Wilburn Robert Pruett: kind of a Henry Simoneau: to Robert Pruett: penguin. Henry Simoneau: your leader. Jerry Wilburn: I like that it stands up. Robert Pruett: Mm-mm. Henry Simoneau: Wow, maybe I should market it to some remote control company now. So are are Ismael Myers: That was Jerry Wilburn: Oh, Ismael Myers: bound to happen Jerry Wilburn: sad. Henry Simoneau: poor little thing. Robert Pruett: Mm 'kay, congratulations. Um. Anything else to say? Jerry Wilburn: Nothing will come up until after our meeting's supposed to be over, Robert Pruett: Alright. Jerry Wilburn: its all timed. Henry Simoneau: Oh. Robert Pruett: Um anybody Jerry Wilburn: Oh. Robert Pruett: have I got more master classes, anybody else wanna like take a master's class? Henry Simoneau: It's really funny that you got spam in your work emails. Robert Pruett: Yeah, but check it out. So like there are all these like links, they don't go anywhere. But all that you need to keep in mind your knowledge management. Um just wanna make sure you do. Jerry Wilburn: No the first one that you sent like I didn't realise that it was a joke and I was like why did she send this Robert Pruett: Oh Jerry Wilburn: to us? It's very it's very work relevant, 'cause people Robert Pruett: It is. Jerry Wilburn: send spam a lot. Robert Pruett: Yes definitely I'm very sad that I didn't get any links to the corporate website. Jerry Wilburn: Oh here you can Henry Simoneau: Let's see, Jerry Wilburn: you can Henry Simoneau: what Jerry Wilburn: view. Henry Simoneau: did I get through the corporate website? It's Jerry Wilburn: You can Henry Simoneau: just Jerry Wilburn: just see what's Henry Simoneau: inspiration Jerry Wilburn: up. Henry Simoneau: about circuit boards. Robert Pruett: Wow. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah it's it's really deep. Hold on. Takes a little while to get excited to load. That the Excel thing is pretty cool. Robert Pruett: Yes. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, that Jerry Wilburn: Here, Robert Pruett: I Henry Simoneau: is Robert Pruett: love Jerry Wilburn: like, Henry Simoneau: pretty Robert Pruett: Excel, Henry Simoneau: neat. Robert Pruett: it's Jerry Wilburn: basically Robert Pruett: one of my favourite programs. Jerry Wilburn: it's like inspiration, basically I'm gonna give you two sentences on fashion and that kind of thing, see. You didn't miss Robert Pruett: I Jerry Wilburn: out Robert Pruett: see, Jerry Wilburn: that much. Robert Pruett: mm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, my inspiration from from last time Robert Pruett: Spongy. Henry Simoneau: is the in interior of a remote control being taken apart bit by bit, talking about circuit boards. I learned a lot actually. Ismael Myers: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: Oh wow. Henry Simoneau: I could probably take apart a remote control now if I really needed to. Jerry Wilburn: This one was cooler. I got a whole table and everything. Henry Simoneau: Now I have all about circuits and chips and transponders and I wrote it all down, because I thought it would be relevant, like all the different parts of the inside of a remote control, but then they're like, you don't actually need this you just Jerry Wilburn: That's Henry Simoneau: need Jerry Wilburn: like Henry Simoneau: to Jerry Wilburn: mine Henry Simoneau: talk Jerry Wilburn: it Henry Simoneau: about Jerry Wilburn: was like, Henry Simoneau: the case. Jerry Wilburn: would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen or a multifunction remote control? And then it didn't have like any kind of table, like awesome, I'm glad they asked that question and didn't report the result. Henry Simoneau: It's really Robert Pruett: I Henry Simoneau: interesting though. Robert Pruett: I thought it was a little tricky having to hand around this thing. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: We had a lot of the um Ismael Myers: I Robert Pruett: otherwise Ismael Myers: think. Robert Pruett: the technology today was kinda cool. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: That was really neat how I got emails Ismael Myers: We didn't Henry Simoneau: and Ismael Myers: we didn't Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: use the whiteboard that much. Robert Pruett: No. Henry Simoneau: No. Robert Pruett: Although I don't see how we could have very l at least for Jerry Wilburn I Henry Simoneau: I yeah. If I'd gotten pictures of the different parts of the case, the different looks of the case, I would have probably drawn them up, but Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: 'Cause we weren't like voting on anything and I think usually, like whiteboards are good, you know like crossing out ideas, or like if we had had like a brainstorming Henry Simoneau: Yeah, we could've Jerry Wilburn: period. Henry Simoneau: put our brainstorming stuff up there rather than just talking about it, but Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: But I thought we were good orally. Henry Simoneau: with only four people it doesn't really make sense. Jerry Wilburn: Get Henry Simoneau: I think if you Robert Pruett: And Henry Simoneau: had Robert Pruett: with Henry Simoneau: a larger Jerry Wilburn: crazy. Robert Pruett: and Henry Simoneau: group Robert Pruett: with the PowerPoint that we can all look at, like you Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: can do all those things pretty much on PowerPoint Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: as that's Jerry Wilburn: And Robert Pruett: not Jerry Wilburn: these Robert Pruett: as necessary Jerry Wilburn: might've Robert Pruett: to have. Jerry Wilburn: made us more willing to like take notes than to like Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: write up them here, 'cause we all needed them separately, kind of on the whiteboards in Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: this room. Henry Simoneau: Because we're all gonna be working in different places. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: We if we were all gonna stay in here all the time, then Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: having the notes up on the whiteboard would've been alright, but everyone needs their own, like specific notes, I guess. Robert Pruett: Now when you were um creating your um prototypes here, did you work together or did you like do separate projects? Ismael Myers: Uh we we worked together, Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: um but we were making like we sort of made different shapes and then discussed how the how the buttons might work, Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. So it was a bit of both really, we just kind of started out by each taking a colour of clay and just fooling around with it and I came up with that rhombus shape and he came Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: up with the sort of potatoey, mangoey shape, and then just went from there really. Robert Pruett: Cool. Henry Simoneau: It was fun. Henry Simoneau: So well done with the management, I felt well managed. Robert Pruett: Oh thanks. Ismael Myers: I think we did well in Robert Pruett: It's kinda fun. Ismael Myers: first of all giving our meetings the time, and second we actually we we did a good job of making firm decisions at the ends of the meetings. Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: Sorry. Ismael Myers: And I Henry Simoneau: That happened to Jerry Wilburn all the time though. Ismael Myers: I know what happens sometimes is that you tend to sort of have meetings and then people sorta drift away without anything actually really being decided. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Ismael Myers: But I think here we got we got clear and and decisive decisive points at the end of the meetings, so that we we knew where to go on from there. Henry Simoneau: Yeah, I was quite worried at the end of the last meeting that we weren't getting we didn't really have enough information to make firm decisions, Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: but we were able to do it regardless, so. I'm not usually a very decisive person, so it helped to have people say this needs Robert Pruett: This Henry Simoneau: to Robert Pruett: is Ismael Myers: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: be Robert Pruett: what Henry Simoneau: done Robert Pruett: we'll do. Henry Simoneau: in five minutes. Robert Pruett: I found that we did we could have used another five or ten minutes sometimes Ismael Myers: Yeah, for Henry Simoneau: Especially Ismael Myers: some Robert Pruett: in Ismael Myers: of Robert Pruett: the Ismael Myers: the Robert Pruett: meetings. Ismael Myers: meetings, Henry Simoneau: last Ismael Myers: yeah. Henry Simoneau: time, Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: yeah. Robert Pruett: Yeah I think the last time we had a lot of information, Henry Simoneau: Yeah, Robert Pruett: but at the same time not quite enough, Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: you know what I mean, Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: like we Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: we couldn't answer every single question. Henry Simoneau: Right. Robert Pruett: Um but Henry Simoneau: And I I felt the first two meetings, that I was coming in with no information, and not sort Robert Pruett: Mm. Henry Simoneau: of made Jerry Wilburn really like, ooh I don't know, throwing together PowerPoint out of no no information and then last time it was like the opposite. I had so much information and so much to talk about. Robert Pruett: It was interesting what came out like later, like as I was doing Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: the when I was doing the breakdown on the agenda that they gave Jerry Wilburn um, that more points came out from your Henry Simoneau: Mm. Robert Pruett: presentation even. Um. I'm a little I am a little disappointed that we didn't do a um something for losing the remote, because Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: that was kind of a big point. Henry Simoneau: that was something like in order to talk about that we would've had to have actual knowledge about circuit boards Robert Pruett: About Henry Simoneau: and Robert Pruett: yeah. Henry Simoneau: things Jerry Wilburn: Well the problem Ismael Myers: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: like Jerry Wilburn: was, even when we just were creating from the Excel file, there wasn't like a option to select to somehow Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: have it included, so there was no we could be like yeah, it Henry Simoneau: I Jerry Wilburn: has Henry Simoneau: think Jerry Wilburn: it Henry Simoneau: we Jerry Wilburn: included. Henry Simoneau: were Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: There was no way for us to have Robert Pruett: Considered Jerry Wilburn: written Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: down Robert Pruett: the re Jerry Wilburn: that Robert Pruett: yeah. Jerry Wilburn: it was really there. Henry Simoneau: I think we were just getting overenthusiastic with the task. Robert Pruett: Well it's interesting Henry Simoneau: I think we really Robert Pruett: that Henry Simoneau: got Robert Pruett: they Henry Simoneau: into it, I mean I got into it as the day went on and I got really like, ooh I'm designing a remote control, I dunno if that's just Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm, Henry Simoneau: Jerry Wilburn, but Robert Pruett: yeah. It was interesting though that they put that fifty percent of people say they have frustration with losing their remote and yet they didn't provide us with information to Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: um Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Robert Pruett: we weren't provided with information to discuss that. I know that like people people have like things they can put on their keys that you press it and it'll beep, Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: but I but I'm sure that would require some kind of technology that I just don't know what it is, Henry Simoneau: I think Robert Pruett: but Henry Simoneau: there are some of those like infomercial remotes that have things so you won't lose them. Robert Pruett: Mm. Henry Simoneau: I dunno. I mean we were talking about it and like i in my household at least, there's only about two places that the remote is ever Robert Pruett: Hmm. Henry Simoneau: 'cause there's only one T_V_ and there's Jerry Wilburn: That's Henry Simoneau: only Jerry Wilburn: like Henry Simoneau: like Jerry Wilburn: saying Henry Simoneau: three Jerry Wilburn: you're never Henry Simoneau: chairs. Jerry Wilburn: gonna lose your keys, and I always do, anyway. You'll lose 'em in your pocket, like you Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Jerry Wilburn: just will forget that or you like put it down somewhere that like made sense and then Robert Pruett: Mm. Jerry Wilburn: not remember, there's always ways to lose things. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: It d yeah, it depends on how organised you are personally, but Henry Simoneau: Yeah, or like I guess what the setup of the house is too. Robert Pruett: Mm-hmm. Henry Simoneau: But, I mean I am notorious for losing my keys, I just I guess I've just never lost the remote. I put my keys in the refrigerator the other night and couldn't find them. 'Cause I was putting groceries away. Jerry Wilburn: That's funny. Robert Pruett: Oh. Henry Simoneau: You you're taking stuff from a bag and putting them in the refrigerator and then go back to my room. Robert Pruett: Can't get in. Henry Simoneau: Can't get in, look all around the kitchen. Definitely in the vegetable drawer. Jerry Wilburn: That's funny. Henry Simoneau: So. Jerry Wilburn: I always do that, leaving it in my coat, and then like using a different coat. Henry Simoneau: Mm. Robert Pruett: Yep. Henry Simoneau: But I guess it's 'cause we don't carry remotes around that much. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Can't really take it into the other room. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Maybe with our little robot one we could've had him have a robot, alien, pear, whatever he is, have a little voice like, I am located Oh a G_P_S_ system, internal G_P_S_. Jerry Wilburn: Oh man. Here you go. Henry Simoneau: Although if it's sitting still for Robert Pruett: We Henry Simoneau: too Robert Pruett: should Henry Simoneau: long. Robert Pruett: make one that walks by itself. Henry Simoneau: Yes Jerry Wilburn: That really Henry Simoneau: I Jerry Wilburn: could get up and walk away. Robert Pruett: Or or like some crazy like electro-magnet, that you push Henry Simoneau: Or Robert Pruett: it and it'll Henry Simoneau: little Robert Pruett: go zoom to the T_V_ and stick there. Henry Simoneau: Or just just a wheel, you know. Just if you like you'd have a remote for your remote, that'll. Ismael Myers: Yeah. Robert Pruett: Well, but if you could attach Henry Simoneau: zoom Robert Pruett: them to the T_V_, then you can. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Hmm. All Robert Pruett: Mm. Henry Simoneau: kinds of possibilities. Robert Pruett: Okay. Sorry, I'm just um trying to update my minutes. I decided to you know how I sent you the email saying that PowerPoint minutes will be complimentary, Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Robert Pruett: rather than like repeating them. Just gonna make I'm making full minutes, so that it'll Henry Simoneau: Oh. Robert Pruett: include all of the agenda and all that. Henry Simoneau: Wow. Robert Pruett: 'Cause that seems a little more useful. Henry Simoneau: 'Cause you've had like the most typing and organising to do. Robert Pruett: But I didn't have like information to sloth Henry Simoneau: Yeah, Robert Pruett: through either, so Henry Simoneau: I guess How much of your PowerPoint was already done for you, every meeting. Robert Pruett: Most of it, mm-hmm. I added slides, um Henry Simoneau: Oh. Robert Pruett: I added a couple slides each time, but that was about it. Henry Simoneau: Okay. Yeah, I didn't even think about adding slides, 'cause I would just get slides with titles on them and Robert Pruett: Mm. Henry Simoneau: fill them all in w didn't even think about adding more. Robert Pruett: Well, the thing was they would provide y an agenda with s like several points, but it wouldn't have a slide for each point. Henry Simoneau: Ah Robert Pruett: And that's the only Henry Simoneau: yeah.. Robert Pruett: way I remember that I need to go other that point. I know personally when I do PowerPoint, that's what I do and so I had it once, even if it was just like the title of it, like the three presentations, and I would do your Henry Simoneau: Right. Robert Pruett: three. Jerry Wilburn: You have you have to have the slogan on it or can it just be like Robert Pruett: The slogan Henry Simoneau: No, Robert Pruett: on it? Henry Simoneau: no, Robert Pruett: No Henry Simoneau: definitely Robert Pruett: no Jerry Wilburn: Okay Robert Pruett: no. Jerry Wilburn: good. Henry Simoneau: not. We Jerry Wilburn: 'Cause I was like, it could go around the outside. Henry Simoneau: No, I don't think we need to I Robert Pruett: I think Henry Simoneau: think Robert Pruett: we just Henry Simoneau: the Robert Pruett: need Henry Simoneau: R_ Robert Pruett: the Henry Simoneau: and R_, Robert Pruett: um Henry Simoneau: especially Robert Pruett: the R_R_, Henry Simoneau: if Robert Pruett: yeah. Henry Simoneau: the yellow and black one. Jerry Wilburn: Is it yellow and blue? Henry Simoneau: Or yellow and blue. Lemme go to the web page. Robert Pruett: Yeah, I was just kinda going by the web page, 'cause they didn't give Jerry Wilburn any clear, like yellow, Jerry Wilburn: Oh Robert Pruett: grey, Jerry Wilburn: I guess it is black, Robert Pruett: or. Jerry Wilburn: grey. Grey is better than black, doesn't look so bumblebeeish. Robert Pruett: I don't really like yellow in general. Jerry Wilburn: Hey now I understand the Robert Pruett: But Jerry Wilburn: random Robert Pruett: it Jerry Wilburn: like newsclippings. Henry Simoneau: Finish meeting now. Robert Pruett: Wasn't it interesting that um I thought it was interesting that our market marketing um expert did not agree with the marketing um the marketing choices, you know, like Jerry Wilburn: Yes. I will I just feel Robert Pruett: that Jerry Wilburn: like Robert Pruett: was Jerry Wilburn: if you're Robert Pruett: a bit Jerry Wilburn: really Robert Pruett: of a conflict. Jerry Wilburn: doing like a a really big market evaluation, you wouldn't just have like one set of source, it's kind of an they were so not backed up, it would just be a sentence like we did a survey, this is what people said. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Jerry Wilburn: S mm, I dunno. Robert Pruett: People are stupid. Henry Simoneau: I guess it i it sort of a grey, isn't it? Yellow and grey, but then the slogan's in blue. Jerry Wilburn: Well we got some grey and we got some blue buttons, we're good. Henry Simoneau: Yeah. Well we don't have the right colour clay anyway. Robert Pruett: Maybe, like I don't know. That could always be. Henry Simoneau: Well we're not, sadly, going to actually be producing this, so. Robert Pruett: Oh. Jerry Wilburn: If they ever come out with potato Henry Simoneau: Potato mango shaped remotes. Jerry Wilburn: I'm gonna Robert Pruett: I'm Jerry Wilburn: have Robert Pruett: claiming Jerry Wilburn: to Robert Pruett: it intellectual property. Jerry Wilburn: Yeah. Henry Simoneau: I can't believe a whole day is gone. Jerry Wilburn: I know. Henry Simoneau: I don't feel like it's been that long. Get sucked in. Mm I haven't gotten questionnaire eight yet.

Robert Pruett recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting and two team members presented three prototypes which differed primarily in shape. The team felt it was not necessary to include a feature to prevent the remote from getting lost as the prototype designs were quite bright. The team conducted a product evaluation of the prototype the team liked the most. They rated the prototype on the basis of its appearance, functionality, technological innovativeness, sponginess, usability, learn-ability, its ability to be found when misplaced, simplicity, and its ability to meet the appropriate demographic. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. Robert Pruett then led the team in a project evaluation in which the team evaluated how they created the project, the information they found and used, their creativity, their teamwork, and the materials they had at their disposal. The team was generally quite satisfied. After Robert Pruett's closing, the team discussed their personal preferences in terms of the prototypes. They also further evaluated the project process and discussed what they had learned.

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Richard Woodward: All set? Okay. Cool. Right. So um basically I'm just gonna go over real quickly um some news I've just got from the board on how we're supposed to do with this um remote control. And then I'm gonna turn over to you guys to make brief presentations um on what you've found and then we'll have a bit of discussion. So basically uh what I've just found out from the board I dunno if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only. So no we're not doing D_V_D_, Forrest Burdick: Okay. Richard Woodward: we're not doing anything else, it's just gonna be a television remote. Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it. Um so that's red and black. And it has to have the slogan, case you guys forget the slogan it's, we put fashion in electronics. Um and no teletext. I'm not sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do, so we don't wanna include that um in this particular design. For reasons that I don't really know. There's but it's the board so there you go. So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote. Anyway. So I'm gonna turn over to Franklin Urbina uh to go ahead and make a presentation on Franklin Urbina: Okay. So do I unplug Forrest Burdick: Gotta Richard Woodward: Oh, Forrest Burdick: plug Richard Woodward: right yeah. Forrest Burdick: you in. Franklin Urbina: this bit here? Richard Woodward: Yep. Richard Woodward: Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool. Franklin Urbina: Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation. Richard Woodward: Brilliant. Forrest Burdick: Very nice For. your first PowerPoint it's lovely. Franklin Urbina: So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system, so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power, something along those lines, there's an integrated circuit, which is the microchip, actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip, basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings, um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like, and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer, just think of those lawsuits, that'd be really bad. Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Richard Woodward: 'Kay. Franklin Urbina: Um, components. Just some ideas that I had, um, energy source, it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface, I was since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic. Richard Woodward: Mm. Franklin Urbina: The chip, um, silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that, we can't really be different in that respect. Um, the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard, multi channel, that's a word I made up, I don't really know what it means. Richard Woodward: 'Kay. Franklin Urbina: Uh PAL Richard Woodward: Fair enough. Franklin Urbina: and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probably a two hundred foot range. Richard Woodward: 'Kay. Franklin Urbina: Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences, I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal, um, the company simply Forrest Burdick: Fine. Franklin Urbina: can't afford this kinds of lawsuits which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value, 'cause we were thinking Richard Woodward: Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers, or mo modern types of plastics that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other Franklin Urbina: Right. Richard Woodward: ones Forrest Burdick: It Richard Woodward: they Forrest Burdick: needs, Richard Woodward: use a Forrest Burdick: yeah. Richard Woodward: a pretty nice, you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with? Franklin Urbina: Yeah that shouldn't be a problem. Um for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that's perfectly possible for Richard Woodward: Okay, Franklin Urbina: us to do. Richard Woodward: okay. Forrest Burdick: Cool. Franklin Urbina: That's Richard Woodward: Great. Franklin Urbina: the end of my presentation. Richard Woodward: Thank you very much Nathan. Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well. S plug yourself in here. Richard Woodward: Mm. Um hit function F_ eight real quickly, hold down Mm. Forrest Burdick: Looks like you're in okay. Franklin Urbina: Is it plugged in well? There it goes. Computer Wayne Gregory: Th Franklin Urbina: adjusting. Forrest Burdick: There you go. Richard Woodward: There you go. Sweet. Wayne Gregory: Well so. Here we have a functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device, it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that Richard Woodward: Yeah Wayne Gregory: uh Richard Woodward: sorry I Wayne Gregory: that Richard Woodward: couldn't get that g to use before. Wayne Gregory: that's no problem. Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Wayne Gregory: I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite Richard Woodward: Oh yeah Wayne Gregory: see Richard Woodward: look Wayne Gregory: my Richard Woodward: at Wayne Gregory: red Richard Woodward: that. Franklin Urbina: Mm. Wayne Gregory: there very well but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated and most Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Wayne Gregory: users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control, slightly different, it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions, um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So my personal preferences. Revolutionise Richard Woodward: Nice. Wayne Gregory: the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there. Um. Richard Woodward: Okay. Wayne Gregory: Just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like uh having multiple face but it's uh. Richard Woodward: Great. Thanks for that Ron. Forrest Burdick: Right. Does that mean I'm Richard Woodward: 'Kay Forrest Burdick: up? Richard Woodward: yep that's you. Forrest Burdick: I think so. Okay. Wayne Gregory: I can plug you in. Forrest Burdick: Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running. Or not. Richard Woodward: Give it a little Forrest Burdick: Uh. Richard Woodward: bit. Forrest Burdick: Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is Forrest Burdick. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got we had a usability test where we were actually sort like watching a hundred people use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time, everybody's used to using changing the channel, turning it on, using the volume, m the majority of the time that's all that's going on, the other functions happen, for some people they're important, but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use, they're not using a lot of it, they don't need it, they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with. And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people, their the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something, will really come into play with a lot of these people. Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes, and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful, and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically, that's up to the design people, but it is s something worth thinking about, especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing, so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice, which are the standards. So it's a good start for us. Richard Woodward: That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. Forrest Burdick: Need to unplug Richard Woodward: So Forrest Burdick: this? Richard Woodward: um yep I'll just uh switch that Forrest Burdick: Need it Richard Woodward: back Forrest Burdick: back. Richard Woodward: here. I'll finish up with just a bit of discussion Forrest Burdick: There you go. Richard Woodward: plan on for the next phase. Richard Woodward: Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um through you guys's presentations um we've got uh y Franklin Urbina suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic. Um Sarah, she's recommended that we go for simpler functions, so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to, you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted, Forrest Burdick: Oh right. Richard Woodward: thought about voice control, um so do we wanna go for that, or do we want to go for an older demographic, and my thought is um we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics um. Forrest Burdick: We're not catering to the pensioners of the world Richard Woodward: Yes. Forrest Burdick: I don't think so. Richard Woodward: So maybe this we should look into this younger demographic. Um. Forrest Burdick: Right. Richard Woodward: So uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well, we've got this idea, Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking Forrest Burdick: Right. Richard Woodward: um, which might be easier given that we're going for simpler function and that we're Forrest Burdick: Uh. Richard Woodward: only going for a telly. Um so um. How th this voice operation thing is I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable, um at least for the basic controls, maybe we can balance Forrest Burdick: Right. Richard Woodward: it that way, you Franklin Urbina: Mm. Richard Woodward: know we can see. Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_ but we might be able to say um volume up. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology. Richard Woodward: Mm. Forrest Burdick: Oh. That could work. I like that. Franklin Urbina: With a simple command like locate. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: And then Forrest Burdick: Something very basic. Franklin Urbina: it could start to beep Forrest Burdick: Right. Franklin Urbina: and Richard Woodward: Right. Franklin Urbina: therefore be found. Wayne Gregory: Sounds Forrest Burdick: Is that only Wayne Gregory: good. Forrest Burdick: gonna be within our two hundred foot range then? Franklin Urbina: Oh yeah I think that's Forrest Burdick: Okay. Franklin Urbina: very doable. Richard Woodward: The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up Franklin Urbina: Mm. Richard Woodward: a voice Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: from far away Franklin Urbina: It's a good point. Richard Woodward: If it's hidden under the couch but then again you have this wee this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button, maybe that could be voice activated too. Wayne Gregory: A little Forrest Burdick: Mm. Wayne Gregory: sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television. And Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: you just say something to into that and it Richard Woodward: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: finds Forrest Burdick: K Wayne Gregory: your Richard Woodward: Or an isolated magnet or something like, or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: be the technical thing but yeah I like that, I like that, the voice recognition for the paging system. Wayne Gregory: The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market Forrest Burdick: True. Wayne Gregory: and the older market. And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market Forrest Burdick: Making Wayne Gregory: might Forrest Burdick: it just Wayne Gregory: might Forrest Burdick: an option? Wayne Gregory: k Franklin Urbina: Mm. Wayne Gregory: exactly Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with Forrest Burdick: Right. Wayne Gregory: the traditional buttons and what not. Franklin Urbina: I Richard Woodward: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: was thinking Forrest Burdick: Are we still Franklin Urbina: uh Forrest Burdick: thinking about this screen sorry. Franklin Urbina: Oh Forrest Burdick: Go Franklin Urbina: go Forrest Burdick: ahead. Franklin Urbina: ahead. Forrest Burdick: The uh if we're gonna do this touch pad screen thing, it would be Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Forrest Burdick: still, do we know if that's an option technically right Wayne Gregory: 'S Forrest Burdick: now Wayne Gregory: definitely Forrest Burdick: to that? Wayne Gregory: an option technically. Forrest Burdick: Okay. Wayne Gregory: I've looked into uh costs of uh touch screen methods Forrest Burdick: Okay. Wayne Gregory: and what not, they seem to be uh you know almost Forrest Burdick: We're doing okay. Wayne Gregory: as cheap as a button method at this point. Forrest Burdick: 'Cause Richard Woodward: Okay. Forrest Burdick: it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions, you can have Richard Woodward: Mm. Forrest Burdick: menu Franklin Urbina: Yeah. Forrest Burdick: options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition, settings, things that you're not gonna use every day and that a lot of people aren't gonna use but it is an option there for this hi-tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we're going for. Franklin Urbina: Gotta wonder though, if we're adding so much technology to this one remote, are we still gonna be able to meet out twelve pou our twelve Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Franklin Urbina: fifty Forrest Burdick: True. Franklin Urbina: Euro you Forrest Burdick: Worth Franklin Urbina: know Forrest Burdick: looking Franklin Urbina: goal Forrest Burdick: into. Franklin Urbina: for selling these things. Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Franklin Urbina: It Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: seems Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Franklin Urbina: like, we're not gonna be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip. The microchip is probably the most expensive part of Forrest Burdick: True. Richard Woodward: Okay. Franklin Urbina: the the whole mechanism. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: So Richard Woodward: Okay. Franklin Urbina: it's just something to consider. Richard Woodward: Absolutely. um well yeah I guess we'll cross that bridge um in a la slightly later stages of development um but yeah I know, that's perfectly viable question. Mm 'kay um so I'm seeing that we're gonna just basically focus on this young demographic group, aim it at them, but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we'll make a sleek simple Forrest Burdick: Mm-hmm. Richard Woodward: functioned um uh remote control. Um I think this voice recognition thing is a we've got a market for it uh I don't think there's too Forrest Burdick: Mm. Richard Woodward: many, we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well, we don't have many um. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm. Right um we don't have many people or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function, a touch screen, and face plates. Um. The thing with I see would there not be a we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen? Wayne Gregory: Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct, I think Richard Woodward: Okay. Wayne Gregory: if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions Forrest Burdick: Mm. Wayne Gregory: are interchangeable. Richard Woodward: Okay. Forrest Burdick: Just the casing. Wayne Gregory: We could have the casing, the the face plates. Richard Woodward: Okay. Franklin Urbina: Back to the uh the cost the material. We have to ask whether we're going to include a certain number of face plates with the package? That's something I w for say we're including Forrest Burdick: Mm. Franklin Urbina: three or four face plates, it's gonna drive the cost up. Richard Woodward: Mm. Franklin Urbina: And Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: the other question is, if we do include them are we really in a position to evaluate that market? We haven't done any tests on face plates and whether Forrest Burdick: Right. Franklin Urbina: See Richard Woodward: Okay. Franklin Urbina: if there if there's even interest out there. Richard Woodward: Okay. Right. Franklin Urbina: Off the top of my head it sounds kind of like a gimmick that wouldn't really go anywhere. Richard Woodward: Yeah 'cause then ha you Forrest Burdick: Mm. Richard Woodward: would have to who all it's not like with cell phones like where you have a you know Nokia model X_ and then ten people make face plates for it, we'd Forrest Burdick: Right. Franklin Urbina: Yeah. Richard Woodward: be just our model of pho of t remote control. Forrest Burdick: Well in the publicity of a face plate on a phone is you have it out and around, it is sort of emblematic whereas Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Forrest Burdick: you're just sit at home, so unless somebody comes Richard Woodward: Mm. Forrest Burdick: over Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. Forrest Burdick: to watch T_V_ Richard Woodward: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: Well hopefully some people have people coming t over to w Forrest Burdick: True. Wayne Gregory: to hang out at Forrest Burdick: True. Wayne Gregory: your house and most people Forrest Burdick: True. Wayne Gregory: have their televisions in the living room. Uh. Richard Woodward: Alright well we can Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: we can discuss that one further when we think about Forrest Burdick: Oh yeah. Richard Woodward: um whether th when we do costs Wayne Gregory: Sure. Richard Woodward: and so forth, um. True, if plastic is dead cheap and if we're making the whole thing out of plastic anyway um yeah we'll cross that bridge later um but yeah we will have to evaluate what's most important. Um I think we've had a bit of discussion already on this thing, n s there any other questions comments that came up in these presentations? Wayne Gregory: Well have we confirmed that we're gonna go ahead with a uh touch screen um Richard Woodward: Yeah yeah Wayne Gregory: Interface? Richard Woodward: okay. Um Yeah I think that would be best. Let's based on what sh on what you guys have all said to Forrest Burdick let's go for a plastic built or uh b plastic cased 'cause tha tha that's easy on the cost, try to look for some kind of high quality recycled plastic as you recommended and I think that's a great idea. With a touch screen for the basic functions. Um And we'll yeah tha let's provisionally let's go for a touch screen one with several submenus um for possible extra stuff that one basically put the channel and the on and off switch on the touch screen. Um do we have Mm wait a minute it occurs to Forrest Burdick that if we have a touch screen people are going to have to recharge their remote controls. Yet Forrest Burdick: True. Richard Woodward: at the same time that might help for this whole complaint of it being lost. Forrest Burdick: 'Cause it would have a docking base? Richard Woodward: Mm-hmm. But then again that costs as well. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: Hmm. Wayne Gregory: So these new lithium batteries they last twenty years even with the touch screen? Richard Woodward: Do they? Wayne Gregory: Those Richard Woodward: Okay. Wayne Gregory: new ones. Forrest Burdick: Can we afford Franklin Urbina: Can we Forrest Burdick: that? Franklin Urbina: afford to include one of those? Forrest Burdick: And will somebody buy it if we don't? Richard Woodward: Well I I don't think yeah I can't see anybody buying a lap a remote control that they have to plug in so we'd have to see some kind of new Forrest Burdick: Right. Richard Woodward: battery technology. Okay so let's go with a um touch screen with um some kind of you know with with some kind of cutting edge battery technology Forrest Burdick: For twelve Euros? Richard Woodward: Yeah well hey you know well it's it's worth looking into, if not we can always Forrest Burdick: It is. Richard Woodward: default to just doing a a well Forrest Burdick: Fair enough. Richard Woodward: presented plastic simple you know so Forrest Burdick: The Richard Woodward: you Forrest Burdick: basics. Richard Woodward: know. Well yeah I mean you can put the we could I I dunno I mean I suppose we could put the the basics on the centre easiest you know, you know people know the channel and volume function make them large and easy to get at and then the the other the other bits and bobs Forrest Burdick: Mm. Richard Woodward: you know go through menu um w we'll do the aesthetics. Okay so we'll touch screen and the battery, Forrest Burdick: 'Kay. Richard Woodward: focus on um uh presentation. Um it's th uh with this voice recognition option as well um just as for the simple functions the um the on off, channels, volume, Franklin Urbina: Right. Richard Woodward: um and um a small paging function. Even if you can't do voice recognition for the paging you know just some kind of simple button that's just a I guess another infrared signal to the remote control and while to emit some kind of paging. Just Franklin Urbina: Okay. Richard Woodward: a beep. Um right so any comments? Thoughts before we break into go into the next round of individual work on this. Franklin Urbina: Since we're doing uh touch screen, do we wanna look into the possibility of people being able to input different types of skins for the you know the actual interface part of it and things like that? Or is it just gonna be one touch screen for everybody. Wayne Gregory: Be interesting. Forrest Burdick: Mm. Franklin Urbina: What what would be on that touch screen? 'Cause you said earlier that we have to think about company colours and um logo or Forrest Burdick: And Franklin Urbina: something or motto, Forrest Burdick: oh. Franklin Urbina: I can't remember exactly Forrest Burdick: Yeah the Franklin Urbina: what you said. Wayne Gregory: We put fashion Forrest Burdick: the fashion Wayne Gregory: into Forrest Burdick: do. Wayne Gregory: electronics. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: W it's my understanding that if you were going to do a skin you'd need to have some way for people to download or import skins Forrest Burdick: Right, and then you're Richard Woodward: into Forrest Burdick: dealing Richard Woodward: the remote Forrest Burdick: with ports Richard Woodward: control. Forrest Burdick: and cords and Richard Woodward: Yeah I think perhaps Franklin Urbina: 'S too much. Richard Woodward: good idea Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: but yeah I think that that one m might just be um and they just yeah I think that one might just be out of the range for this particular Forrest Burdick: For now. Richard Woodward: a P_D_A_ would they would makes a lot of sense for a P_D_A_ 'cause you're gonna be using it to connect up to things anyway but I dunno, what do you guys think? Franklin Urbina: Think we just need to come up with a nice black and red Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Nice. Franklin Urbina: interface on the touch screen. That'd Wayne Gregory: Yeah. Franklin Urbina: be okay. Wayne Gregory: Uh I I'm I'm in agreement with that, I'm wondering Forrest Burdick: Um. Wayne Gregory: how we're gonna get uh we put fashion into electronics Forrest Burdick: Well but Wayne Gregory: onto Forrest Burdick: if we're Wayne Gregory: this Forrest Burdick: gonna Wayne Gregory: device. Forrest Burdick: use a touch screen where it's gonna come on like on your cell phone it'll have your Richard Woodward: Hmm. Forrest Burdick: your carrier provider name come up first like while it's loading and then it goes away, perhaps it could be like a temporary Richard Woodward: Mm. Forrest Burdick: Comes on every time you turn it on and then that's it 'cause it is a bit much to have it like engraved Franklin Urbina: Mm. Forrest Burdick: on the back or Richard Woodward: Yeah. Forrest Burdick: something Franklin Urbina: True. Forrest Burdick: I think. Richard Woodward: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: I'm hoping for a subliminal maybe half a millisecond Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Wayne Gregory: as it turns on. Forrest Burdick: Y Richard Woodward: Yeah. Yeah I know I d it seems like it would suffice to have just the R_R_ on there. Wayne Gregory: Mm-hmm. Forrest Burdick: Yeah Richard Woodward: Jus Forrest Burdick: you would think. But. Richard Woodward: But apparently not. Forrest Burdick: If it Franklin Urbina: People Forrest Burdick: comes Richard Woodward: So. Forrest Burdick: from Franklin Urbina: aren't gonna Forrest Burdick: above. Franklin Urbina: want their remote to boot up and to see flashing things come on. They just want it to be on and ready to go. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: Yeah. Well fair enough. Um and yeah that would help the battery life too and if it the remote they do have to press a button for the remote to turn on. But then again who wants to turn on a remote control. Wayne Gregory: Well Richard Woodward: Kind Wayne Gregory: all Richard Woodward: of Wayne Gregory: you Richard Woodward: if Wayne Gregory: have to Richard Woodward: i Wayne Gregory: do is touch the screen and it automatically Forrest Burdick: Mm. Richard Woodward: Oh Wayne Gregory: goes Richard Woodward: to wake Wayne Gregory: on. Richard Woodward: up okay Wayne Gregory: Yep. Richard Woodward: or go into like Wayne Gregory: Goes Richard Woodward: a dormant Wayne Gregory: into a Richard Woodward: mode. Wayne Gregory: sleep mode. Richard Woodward: Okay. Oh yeah I like that I like the idea of um putting the logo in the boot up screen, nice. Um. Um cool so any last things before we break? Alright. Fair enough. Forrest Burdick: We're Richard Woodward: Sounds Forrest Burdick: good? Richard Woodward: good. I'm gonna save th a copy of this in case you guys need any reminders. I'm gonna save a copy of this and the minutes that I'll do it in a second and put them in the shared folder for later reference. Wayne Gregory: I've put my files in the shared folder as well. Richard Woodward: Brilliant. Forrest Burdick: Yeah. Richard Woodward: That's fab guys. Cool.

Richard Woodward went over new requirements for the project: that the device was solely to control television, and that there would not be a teletext component. Franklin Urbina gave his presentation on the basic components of a remote control device, and advised the group to use plastic for the casing material instead of metal. Wayne Gregory presented the technical functions of remote controls and compared the interfaces of two existing remote control products. Forrest Burdick made a presentation of the needs and the desires of the consumer and emphasized simplicity as one of the most desired features. The group discussed in more detail the features that will be added to the device: the possible applications of voice recognition, the touch screen menu interface, faceplates, and the look of the company logo.

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Carmen Brooks: That went well, thank you. Marvin Eaton: That's great. Carmen Brooks: Perfect. Donald Bell: 'Kay. Marvin Eaton: Alright, let Carmen Brooks just PowerPoint this up. Marvin Eaton: Right so um this meeting will be about the conceptual design, don't ask Carmen Brooks s precisely what conceptual design is, it's just something important that we need to do. Um, think of it 's kind of uh turning the abstract into slightly more concrete. In this meeting ideally we'll come to some final decisions on what we're gonna do for the prototype. Um. Right so um, apologies for the last meeting, it was brought my attention that I did not make the roles clear enough, um, so I will attempt to do so more accurately in this particular meeting. Um, fair enough, thanks for the input, 's always good. Um. So, basically all we're gonna do is have some presentations again much like last time, um, and gonna go through you, uh whoever wants to go first is f fine by Carmen Brooks um and we'll collate what we know about um what we discussed in the last meeting, possible directions. And then we'll make some more decisions on um basic uh firm up our idea on how we want this remote control to look and work. So, perfect. So, without th further ado, whoever wants to go first is free to. Donald Bell: I'll go first. Carmen Brooks: Go ahead. Marvin Eaton: Alright Nathan, take it away. Marvin Eaton: It is Nathan right? I'm not calling you the wrong name over Donald Bell: No Marvin Eaton: and over Donald Bell: Nathan's Marvin Eaton: again? Donald Bell: fine. Marvin Eaton: Good. Donald Bell: It's either Nathan or participant two. Monte Heil: Mister Donald Bell: Uh. Monte Heil: participant two that is. Carmen Brooks: Nice. Donald Bell: Okay. Marvin Eaton: Nice. Donald Bell: Um, basically what I'm gonna have to talk to you about today is um component design and it's been brought to my attention that we may be somewhat limited as to what we can do because of what our manufacturer offers, so Marvin Eaton: Mm. Donald Bell: Basically what I'm gonna be doing is talking to you about that. Um, components of a remote control, okay. We've already kind of gone over this but we're gonna have to get into more detail and probably have to reach some conclusions some time soon. Energy source, um, our manufacturer offers a variety of energy sources, your standard battery, solar cells. Our manufacturer didn't say anything about lithium so we might have to look if we do go that route, we might have to look elsewhere. Um, and also there's a kinetic energy possibility. Basically, it's like a um the idea of moving the remote would create enough energy to keep it running. So that's one possibility but I don't know whether that would be powerful enough to illuminate a touch screen. Marvin Eaton: Hmm. Carmen Brooks: Mm. Donald Bell: So we'll have to look into that. Um, the case, we have a few options, plastic, rubber or wood. Um and then as far as the way it's shaped, we can do standard boring flat, which we probably don't wanna do, curved or very sexy double curved. Marvin Eaton: What kind of th thickness are we looking at? Donald Bell: Um, I imagine that we could specify. Um, I don't see any reason to go outside of the convention of three or four millimetres. Marvin Eaton: Okay, Donald Bell: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: brilliant. Donald Bell: Um, the buttons, there are multiple scroll buttons available from our manufacturer, but to use those we'd have to use more chips, um and that would cost us more. And if we do go with the rubber doubled curved case um we'll have to use rubber push buttons because the other buttons aren't compatible Marvin Eaton: Hmm. Donald Bell: with that. Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: Um and just a little note there, touch screen equals many chips which equals many Euro. Carmen Brooks: Right. Nice. Donald Bell: Um, one thing that I noticed was that most remotes operate on a infrare on the infrared part of the spectrum. So you notice when you push a button on a remote you can't see anything coming out of it but in fact there is light coming out of the remote and you know the television can detect that. And if you were to record if you were to make a video recording you could actually see the light. Uh one thing that I thought might be interesting was to use part use visible light coming out of the remote, just kind of as a fun gimmick. Marvin Eaton: Hmm. Donald Bell: So you Carmen Brooks: Interesting. Donald Bell: could actually see something coming out of the remote when you pushed it. Course it'd have to be a part of the spectrum that wouldn't damage the human eye or anything Carmen Brooks: Mm. Donald Bell: like that. Carmen Brooks: Good call. Marvin Eaton: M Maybe is there an option that we can have that off or on so a person can select like Carmen Brooks: Choose Donald Bell: Yeah. Carmen Brooks: it. Donald Bell: I am sure that we could do that. Um, of Marvin Eaton: Yeah Donald Bell: course Marvin Eaton: I like the idea, it's a good idea. Donald Bell: Yeah, just as a fun gimmick. Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Donald Bell: Just to set us apart a little bit. Um, and then on to the circuit board that we're gonna use, also known as the chip. Uh, we really don't have any way around the T_A_ one one eight three five. Um findings, okay, we're very limited by what our current manufacturers can offer, um and my question to all of you is, should we look to other manufacturies or should we just make do with what we have available? Monte Heil: Interesting question. Donald Bell: 'S a bit of a challenge question. Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: Well Monte Heil: Yes. Carmen Brooks: I'd say shop around but with our time constraints, is that really a feasible option? Marvin Eaton: Mm. Donald Bell: Right, that's my concern too. Um, if we do go the lithium battery route then we'll have to go outside our current manufacturer. My personal preference is I'll just throw my cards on the table, uh I think we should probably go the solar battery route, just to kinda keep with the environmentally friendly theme that we have going on. Uh, I like the idea of the visible light signalling, that's something to set us apart and uh I was thinking about I was thinking of ways that we could produce the remote in a variety of different case materials to suit different tastes. So we're not so confined by one style and say some Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: you know, say our the one if we just go with one and it doesn't go over well then we're in a bad situation. Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: Can we do marketing piloting too? Try to see what kind before we launch can we see Carmen Brooks: Um Marvin Eaton: how they're received? Carmen Brooks: It's an option, uh but actually there's I've got some research already on like what we're looking at and trends Marvin Eaton: Okay. Carmen Brooks: in casing right now Marvin Eaton: Okay. Carmen Brooks: which actually might even come into play beforehand, Marvin Eaton: Okay, Carmen Brooks: it Marvin Eaton: perfect. Carmen Brooks: may help us decide for now. Marvin Eaton: Great, thank Carmen Brooks: Temporarily Marvin Eaton: you very much Carmen Brooks: anyway. Donald Bell: Oh yeah, Marvin Eaton: Nathan. That's Donald Bell: you're Marvin Eaton: perfect, Donald Bell: welcome. Marvin Eaton: so I guess that makes sense for you to take it from here. Carmen Brooks: I guess so, 'cause I found some interesting things. You Marvin Eaton: Fascinating, Carmen Brooks: waiting Monte Heil: Did Marvin Eaton: compelling Monte Heil: you? Carmen Brooks: for Carmen Brooks? Marvin Eaton: even. Carmen Brooks: I know, what a teaser ain't it. Um. Right. So current market trends. Screen. Um, basically I was looking at what's going on in the remote control market right now and what's going on in other design fields, to see sort of what's what's trendy, what's new, what's happening. Um, remote control right now basically everybody says they want newer, fancier, more exciting they're sick of this boring, normal, functional, um that we need innovative design options and there needs to be an easy user interface. Um the challenge is that current trends right now, across the board in fashion, in furniture, in technology, is a very organic fruit and vegetable kind of thing. Now I'm not saying we should have, you know, tomato shaped remote controls or anything, but I think it is possible maybe to use um natural colours, like if wood is an option, Donald Bell: Mm. Carmen Brooks: that whole organic, sleek, clean, v line thing may be something we can look into. Different skin options, or if we can't afford this touch plate thing, or touch face screen interface um, maybe having the b images be specific, like you could choose your menu bullets to be Marvin Eaton: Tomatoes. Carmen Brooks: a different shape or okay, not the example I would choose, but you know what I mean to t sort of and th apparently the feel of the next couple of years is spongy, Donald Bell: Mm. Carmen Brooks: uh not Monte Heil: I Carmen Brooks: something Monte Heil: like Carmen Brooks: I Monte Heil: it, Carmen Brooks: I've Monte Heil: I like Carmen Brooks: come Monte Heil: it. Carmen Brooks: up with a though if we can get around to getting piloting, I thought maybe a casing option like uh not like a skin, but like a holder almost Donald Bell: Hmm. Carmen Brooks: if you could do like um, leather options or wood options or something Donald Bell: I should have mentioned this um. As far as the rubber that we can use Carmen Brooks: Mm-hmm. Donald Bell: we can use a rubber as part of the case, it has a consistency of those stress balls. Monte Heil: Yes. Carmen Brooks: Mm. Might be an Monte Heil: Fabulous. Carmen Brooks: interesting Marvin Eaton: Slick, Carmen Brooks: way to go. Marvin Eaton: slick. Carmen Brooks: Um, yeah so something to sit on for now. So overall I think we should stick with what we're finding, everyone's looking for easy to use, technologically innovative and this fancy new I think perhaps the double curve thing and maybe this rubber Donald Bell: Mm. Carmen Brooks: option is our best way to go for right now. Um. Marvin Eaton: Interface, oh the interface graphics for Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: the um Carmen Brooks: Um. Well I d but then if the touch screen thing isn't Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Carmen Brooks: gonna work out for us that's really a non-issue. Donald Bell: I like the idea of of rubber too because it's tends to be associated with being durable, something that you can drop and it doesn't Marvin Eaton: Mm. Donald Bell: matter. Carmen Brooks: True. Donald Bell: 'Cause so many you go to so many houses these days and you see broken remote controls. Carmen Brooks: Very true. Marvin Eaton: Yeah, Carmen Brooks: Very Donald Bell: Taped Marvin Eaton: it's Carmen Brooks: true. Marvin Eaton: like, Donald Bell: with duck tape Marvin Eaton: yep Donald Bell: and Carmen Brooks: Very Donald Bell: what have Carmen Brooks: much Donald Bell: you, Carmen Brooks: so. Donald Bell: you wouldn't have that problem Carmen Brooks: Um Marvin Eaton: it's Donald Bell: if Marvin Eaton: ubiquitous Donald Bell: you used rubber. Monte Heil: We can Marvin Eaton: isn't Monte Heil: have a Marvin Eaton: it? Monte Heil: duck tape casing. Carmen Brooks: We could. I think that goes against the whole fancy something, a new line, but worth a shot. Monte Heil: It could go with the granola crowd. Carmen Brooks: Ah, it could be, it could be, um. Yeah that's what I know. Marvin Eaton: Great, thanks for that Sarah. Carmen Brooks: No problem. Marvin Eaton: Ron? Monte Heil: Phew. Monte Heil: Computer's adjusting. One moment please. So interme interface concept by your faithful user interface designer. So yur user interface, guys, is basically aspects of a computer system that can see or hear otherwise uh perceive. Uh, commands and mechanisms, that basically user uses to control the operator operating system. Here's a d series of different remote controls that are out on the market today. I think we're definitely trying to get away from this kind of a look. Marvin Eaton: Yeah Monte Heil: Um, so the following are a bunch of different uh interface uh concepts. Uh voice recognition, we we um actually have some new uh information from our research design team but uh I'll get to that in a moment. Um, so current voice recognition starts up to about eighty speech samples, um and basically you record your own verbal labels c and connect them to the remote control. Now our design team, research team, has been able to uh set up a system in which uh you can teach the remote control voice c recognition system to respond to um with standard responses. Like you could say good morning uh remote control and it'll say in a sexy female voice, Good morning Joe. Um. In fact we already have Carmen Brooks: Mm. Monte Heil: this for a coffee maker line Marvin Eaton: Lot of single people on the um on the re on the remote control Monte Heil: On the remote Marvin Eaton: research Monte Heil: control Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: team at the Monte Heil: right. Carmen Brooks: Very true, very true. Monte Heil: Um, another concept is what uh Apple has come up with, the spinning Marvin Eaton: Mm. Monte Heil: wheel with uh L_C_ display like on the uh iPod which I am sure most of you know about. Carmen Brooks: Mm. Monte Heil: Um and then we have the scroll button with integrated push-button, kind Marvin Eaton: Mm. Monte Heil: of like a modern a bit Donald Bell: Mm. Monte Heil: bulky, a bit crazy, I don't think that's we're necessarily going for. Donald Bell: No. Monte Heil: And uh some special components, uh ideas like uh blocking, having the ability to block channels from your for your children um and uh dedicated buttons for for commonly used uh channels and even uh ideas like secured or hidden programming but uh I again if we go with touch screen I don't think that's a big issue. Um and uh this is kind of the uh the big daddy Carmen Brooks: Hmm. Monte Heil: of remote controls here. Uh the jumbo universal remote control is almost impossible to misplace or Marvin Eaton: Yeah, Monte Heil: lose. Marvin Eaton: I can see. Monte Heil: Um, again probably not what we're going for so I I mean my ideas here and kind of where I think we're heading is something slightly larger than a regular iPod uh with a hard cla Carmen Brooks: Okay. Monte Heil: c uh plastic casing although I think some of the suggestions we've come up with are definitely uh very good ideas. Uh changeable casings uh our design team was possibly talking about including one extra face plate with the package to kind of set the idea that you can Carmen Brooks: Mm, Monte Heil: change Carmen Brooks: right. Monte Heil: it and you can try changing it and kind of get used to thinking about maybe buying another one which can add value to our uh bottom line. Uh touch screen interface, um possibly having go-to buttons being uh stuck into the system so those don't move away from the screen, uh, the important ones like power, volume and jump between channels. Um, and of course our voice command system which I've talked a little bit about already Marvin Eaton: Mm. Monte Heil: and uh the use of recognisable colours and shapes to aid recognition of the features um that are around so red for power, um Carmen Brooks: Mm. Monte Heil: arrows for different volume ups and downs and channels ups and downs and what not. And uh perhaps even adding in some stupid little jokes with the voice recognition idea like perh mm for instance my toastie maker that I got from my bank has jokes when it's ready. Carmen Brooks: Nice. Marvin Eaton: Great. Monte Heil: And uh that is about it. Marvin Eaton: Great, wonderful Ron, cool. Lot of good ideas, good facts to have. Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: That's what they need, it's like a little dongle it just sticks up this further so you don't have to stand up every time, just Donald Bell: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: connect Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: it, my kingdom. Right so, good to know all that stuff, thanks guys, um. Now we kind of have to come to some decisions, um, I figure we can just go down the line and all three of us can have a chat about it. Um. Based on what Nathan presented as far as the um various costs and benefits um I think, I dunno, what do you guys think about the touch screen at this point? Carmen Brooks: I think it's our most marketable feature just because it's so new and it's something that is showing up in other places. Marvin Eaton: 'Kay. 'Kay. Carmen Brooks: But can we really afford it 'cause it looks like they would be, that would be a really main cost source then Marvin Eaton: Mm-hmm. Carmen Brooks: right? Donald Bell: My estimate is that in order to incorporate touch screen technology it's gonna cost us upwards of seventeen fifty Euro Marvin Eaton: To produce Carmen Brooks: Per? Donald Bell: per remote, Marvin Eaton: each one. Donald Bell: yeah that's just an estimate Carmen Brooks: Piece. Donald Bell: though. Monte Heil: Oh you guys are always the dampers on these projects. Carmen Brooks: I know Marvin Eaton: Mm. Monte Heil: You industrial designers. Donald Bell: I know. It's Marvin Eaton: Hmm. Donald Bell: fun. Carmen Brooks: And our goal was to be under twelve fifty or we have to be under twelve fifty? Marvin Eaton: Well. Carmen Brooks: Do we remember? Donald Bell: I thought there was some flexibility with that. Carmen Brooks: Okay. Marvin Eaton: There is, it's just, it is a question Carmen Brooks: Can Marvin Eaton: of Carmen Brooks: we justify it? Marvin Eaton: and how much ca o does that mean we're gonna have to increase the price to make money. Um, from twelve fifty if we d wanna get our fift uh hundred per cent profit margin um that would mean selling it from twenty five. If you multiply seventeen fifty by two that's thirty five. Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: So Monte Heil: Where do you guys come up with these numbers? Donald Bell: That's just off the top of my head, it is pending further emails. Marvin Eaton: From the board, Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: um, well Carmen Brooks: Though I think that's what people would pay for, I mean if you're gonna pay for an expensive high class remote, you're gonna expect it to do something Marvin Eaton: That's true, I mean Donald Bell: It is the new it would be in a class of its own. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: And that's to be fair the um the per cent of the market we're not going for mass any you know, mass sales anyway, we're gonna make I mean we we're not talking about selling eight zillion of these things, we just couldn't, Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: not for twenty-five Euros, so we could probably maybe shrink the profit margins rather than selling for twenty five, sell 'em for thirty, but that's something that we can have finance deal with. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: Um, I say that we provisionally go with the touch screen or wh y wh what was your thought on the matter Ron? Monte Heil: I'm thinking that's uh definitely a good idea and I also think that we could probably come up with some sort of a cheaper uh means to to go about this kind of production, Carmen Brooks: See if we can cut Monte Heil: my Carmen Brooks: some corners. Monte Heil: my team in the uh on the third floor suggested that uh Carmen Brooks: Right. Well and we can look into this other manufacturing option, and maybe we can get 'em somewhere else cheaper. Marvin Eaton: Mm. Monte Heil: Yeah. Donald Bell: It's true. We could initially go with what we have and Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: if we can find them Carmen Brooks: It's Donald Bell: cheaper Carmen Brooks: a starting Donald Bell: later Carmen Brooks: point Donald Bell: on Carmen Brooks: anyway, so. Marvin Eaton: No we could have a s very simple touch screen, you know, there's always the opportunity, if it's gonna be about the size of the iPod or whatever, you know, w we yeah, I guess we can play around with it a bit. Alright, let's Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: let's say that okay so the touch screen will be our um our main selling point here. Monte Heil: I Marvin Eaton: So Monte Heil: mean I think that we really have two main selling points, Carmen Brooks: Yeah 'cause Monte Heil: I think Carmen Brooks: with voice Monte Heil: that our casing Carmen Brooks: recognition Monte Heil: and the voice recognition Carmen Brooks: I mean really this is pretty bells and whistles kinda remote. Donald Bell: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: The voice rec thing, I mean, if if we're looking at bottom line, now we're looking at upping the cost to seventeen to get the touch screen on, I think we might have to drop the voice rec. Carmen Brooks: I think we'd have to decide between 'em definitely. Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Monte Heil: To be honest, we Carmen Brooks: Price-wise. Monte Heil: have the capa we have the design in-house, I mean we've we've come up with this, with Carmen Brooks: True. Monte Heil: this new voice we're Carmen Brooks: We've Monte Heil: using Carmen Brooks: already got Monte Heil: it for Carmen Brooks: it. Monte Heil: our coffee machines already. I can pass you on that email from my uh guy in uh guy down the hall. Sounds good. Marvin Eaton: Hmm. voice rec? Donald Bell: I think if we we do both the obviously production costs are going to go way up um but it does put it into it'd become the Rolls Royce of remote controls basically. Carmen Brooks: Pretty much. Donald Bell: It would be very nice. Monte Heil: I mean we we have to r reflect back on what our market research did say. Carmen Brooks: Right and they said they wanted voice recognition. Course, maybe they hadn't thought of this whole touch screen option, but definitely we know the market is there for voice recognition so to say we have the technology and we're not gonna use it even though we know it'll sell is a call I don't think I can give the highs ups. Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: Like really I can't go in and say no we're gonna just ignore everything we know. Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Monte Heil: Does having both really up our costs? Marvin Eaton: I can't see how it wouldn't, I mean, there's you know the old aphorism, you can have it fast, you can have it cheap or you can have it quality, pick two of three. You know, you can't Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: you can't have all three. Donald Bell: Yeah, 'cause you Marvin Eaton: It's Donald Bell: you Marvin Eaton: just Donald Bell: just Marvin Eaton: impossible. Donald Bell: upping the number of chips that you need to deal with each different Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Donald Bell: function. Marvin Eaton: Well if we're gonna pick betwe e alright so we have to pick between one of the two. Um. Otherwise, yeah, we just it just becomes cost prohibitive. What which, which do we suspect we should hold o we should hold on to? Carmen Brooks: Well, we already have research backing voice recognition as you know fiscally solvent. But uh I I I personally would tend to another direction but if that's what's gonna sell I think that's what we need to go with and maybe we can table this touch screen for our next model. Donald Bell: I would have to side with that, I think Marvin Eaton: 'Kay. Donald Bell: the voice recognition is simpler, we already have the all the technology in-house, it's ready to go, it's packaged, it's Marvin Eaton: What does the cost look like Ron? Is it cheaper to do the V_R_ or to do the uh touch screen? Nathan? Monte Heil: Well my p Carmen Brooks: Mm. Monte Heil: is Donald Bell: Um, this is just off the top of my head keep in mind, but I think the voice recognition would they're both mm they're both gonna push the costs up, but um, since we already have the technology Marvin Eaton: Mm. Donald Bell: in-house for the voice recognition we're not gonna have to do as much Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: design work and sometimes the design work is what push the costs up, Marvin Eaton: Right. Donald Bell: if you know what I mean. Carmen Brooks: Right. Monte Heil: Um, I definitely have to agree with that last Carmen Brooks: And Monte Heil: comment. Carmen Brooks: we're still not then we don't have to deal with this battery issue nearly as much either, Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: we can stick with what we've already got. In a lot other ways too. Marvin Eaton: Okay. So I'm getting alright so more or less you guys think that o o of the two of 'em, the voice recognition will be better. Okay. Carmen Brooks: I think it's our lower risk option which Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Carmen Brooks: for right now we can have it on the market sooner which is all in all our best option. Marvin Eaton: Okay. Sorted. We will omit the touch screen in favour of voice recognition. Monte Heil: It's you and Carmen Brooks outside a little here. Carmen Brooks: So and when are we gonna have basic prototypes coming up next that's you guys's next step right? Marvin Eaton: Yeah, well we'll we'll sic we'll sort out what it what f what else we're gonna talk about Donald Bell: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: for Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: the prototype but yeah that's our next step, it'll Carmen Brooks: Okay. Marvin Eaton: be a developing Donald Bell: Are Marvin Eaton: of Donald Bell: we Marvin Eaton: prototype. Donald Bell: going to talk now about um the materials that we're gonna use for Marvin Eaton: Yes. Donald Bell: the case and Carmen Brooks: Mm-hmm. Marvin Eaton: We'll Donald Bell: all Marvin Eaton: just Donald Bell: those Marvin Eaton: run Donald Bell: things? Marvin Eaton: through it yeah, Donald Bell: Okay. Marvin Eaton: yeah, um. You discussed either a lithium or a solar power. Would the solar power be enough to fuel a voice recognition? Or this kinesthetic one, would that be enough to fuel a voice recognition remote Donald Bell: Um, Marvin Eaton: control? Donald Bell: the solar power definitely would be but I think just to keep people from getting annoyed, 'cause sometimes solar power fails and there's no way round that, we should install a small backup battery. Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Donald Bell: Just to cover those moments when for whatever reason, the remote hasn't Carmen Brooks: Well what Donald Bell: been Carmen Brooks: of Donald Bell: exposed Carmen Brooks: people with like Donald Bell: to Carmen Brooks: the T_V_ in their basement, Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: like what if Marvin Eaton: Yep. Carmen Brooks: wha we can't guarantee sunlight everywhere so having a Donald Bell: It's Carmen Brooks: secondary Donald Bell: true. Carmen Brooks: source is probably Donald Bell: Yeah, it works about the same as a solar powered calculator, Monte Heil: Calculator. Donald Bell: and you know Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Donald Bell: how those those don't really Carmen Brooks: True. Donald Bell: require that much light, Carmen Brooks: True. Donald Bell: um, but obviously a little more light than a calculator, but we're not talking about a lot of light. Doesn't have to be out taking a sunbath for Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: a few Marvin Eaton: Right. Donald Bell: hours a day or anything. Carmen Brooks: Okay. Marvin Eaton: Okay. What do you think Ron? Monte Heil: I'm willing to agree with everything that's been said. Marvin Eaton: Okay. Monte Heil: Uh I have to say though that um another idea's come up in my head. idea of having a hand-held remote control and maybe kind of have a round remote control that kind of looks like a paperweight or something like that, kind of Carmen Brooks: Uh Monte Heil: a sleek little uh Marvin Eaton: Hmm. Monte Heil: neat Donald Bell: Hmm. Monte Heil: thing that sits on your table or something. Carmen Brooks: Interesting. Donald Bell: Why, Monte Heil: Just a thought. Donald Bell: why Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Donald Bell: moving away from hand-held, why? What's the uh Monte Heil: Well Donald Bell: idea? Monte Heil: if you don't need to pick it up it could kind Carmen Brooks: I Monte Heil: of Carmen Brooks: if Monte Heil: be Carmen Brooks: it's Monte Heil: a selling Carmen Brooks: got voice Monte Heil: point. Carmen Brooks: recognition it can be technically anywhere in your room and Donald Bell: Hmm. Carmen Brooks: still do its job. Donald Bell: Do you think people that are people that buy a remote, are they always gonna wanna use the voice recognition or is it just something that they do sometimes. Carmen Brooks: True, and i probabl I think we're banking on selling it to more than just voice recognition people, like we want it to work fundamentally Marvin Eaton: Well Carmen Brooks: as Marvin Eaton: we have Carmen Brooks: a basic Marvin Eaton: to have buttons Carmen Brooks: manual Marvin Eaton: on it too Carmen Brooks: too, Marvin Eaton: as well. Carmen Brooks: right. Marvin Eaton: But that's done, that's no bother I mean if you look at the catalogue from places like with sharper image or whatever you know they might have or like um who is it, Apple makes these really pretentious speakers with the th sub-woofers you know like clear and glass Carmen Brooks: Mm-hmm. Marvin Eaton: and you know and Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: then they got these little Carmen Brooks: Yep. Marvin Eaton: pyramidal type of um speakers. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: I mean, why not have a little rounded kind of thing, it could still have the basic buttons on it. Um, 'cause we're going for basic functionality primarily as well. Carmen Brooks: With the bu yeah. Marvin Eaton: And maybe a menu button and so forth, you know um use a channel button to scroll through the menu d if they want to record programmes or whatever you know I mean we Donald Bell: I Marvin Eaton: can Donald Bell: think, Marvin Eaton: sort Carmen Brooks: Mm-hmm. Marvin Eaton: that Donald Bell: I think Marvin Eaton: out. Donald Bell: you're on to something because Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Donald Bell: we need to escape the traditional shape of a remote. Maybe something Carmen Brooks: True. Donald Bell: that looks nice on a table is would be good, Carmen Brooks: Way Donald Bell: even Carmen Brooks: to go. Donald Bell: though and hand-held the same time. Monte Heil: I think it's all about following Apple's lead on a lot of these Carmen Brooks: Yeah Monte Heil: things. Carmen Brooks: I'm thinking of the airport Monte Heil: Mm-hmm. Carmen Brooks: portal, you know Marvin Eaton: Mm. Carmen Brooks: like that little pod looking thing? Donald Bell: Yeah, Monte Heil: Exactly. Donald Bell: those are nice. Marvin Eaton: Yeah, I mean a nice although we do um wh uh is I'm recalling that she mentioned that we n need to get away from the surgical white kind of brushed Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: aluminium thing Donald Bell: Mm. Marvin Eaton: and get back to it but you could have a very tasteful um wood coloured or earth Carmen Brooks: That would Marvin Eaton: tone Carmen Brooks: be kinda Marvin Eaton: kind Carmen Brooks: neat. Marvin Eaton: of um Carmen Brooks: Terracotta bowl or something. Marvin Eaton: Still, I mean, yeah, along those lines. Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: Yeah I like that, I like that idea a lot. Um, let's see what we can do as far as that goes. Donald Bell: Okay. Marvin Eaton: And the uh the material like the plastics and so forth, we were discussing that being uh using like a rubber kind of softer feel, Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: um you know li lik if you feel the the tip on this pen it's a bit gives just a bit. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: You know something where it's uh a a more advanced f form of plastic that has some kind of a tactile response to it. Donald Bell: Right. Just kind of the squishy feel. Carmen Brooks: Yeah, which is the next big thing, so that's not gonna hurt us either. Marvin Eaton: Mm 'kay. Yeah let's see if we can do a squishy non-remote control-looking remote control. But to be fair, yeah, I mean, you just c you could just put it literally put it on the the ni the coffee table next to the telly and say Carmen Brooks: Right. Marvin Eaton: volume up. Yeah Carmen Brooks: Handy. Marvin Eaton: I like it, I like the idea, that's good. Um and we've sorted of discussed costs, um. I guess we'll a that's gonna be uh a thing, if we run a bit over-budget, that might be okay, um. Donald Bell: Sorry about the uh lack of information on cost, I just haven't been provided that information by our manufacturers Carmen Brooks: Okay. Donald Bell: and Marvin Eaton: We'll have more Donald Bell: I'm just Marvin Eaton: of an Donald Bell: having Marvin Eaton: idea when Donald Bell: to Marvin Eaton: the Donald Bell: guess. Marvin Eaton: prototype have more of a we'll have more of an idea later on. Um. And we just yeah go from there. Um, so we've revisited the touch screen and more or less ruled that out, um, I think so we're more or less con we wh wh we're more or less in agreement that we want to have a um a simple kind of function, you Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: know, not too complex. Carmen Brooks: Right. Well when the majority of people are only using the most primary functions on a daily basis, although I'm not saying we should completely rule out major functions, they should be secondary, at least if not functionally then visually, like those shouldn't be Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: Like maybe have menu Carmen Brooks: Take precedence, Marvin Eaton: things. Donald Bell: If, Carmen Brooks: yeah. Donald Bell: if we're not going the touch-screen route then we can um just incorporate maybe something that folds out like what Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: you often see Marvin Eaton: Mm. Donald Bell: on these kinds of remotes is the most basic functions up here and Carmen Brooks: And Donald Bell: something Carmen Brooks: they slide. Donald Bell: that slides down to reveal the you know more complicated things. Marvin Eaton: Yes. Carmen Brooks: Well and do we wanna consider like an iPod screen which isn't a touch screen but you're still scrolling through menu options, in p Monte Heil: Think then we're hitting our cost issue again. Carmen Brooks: True, we're Marvin Eaton: Yeah Carmen Brooks: still Marvin Eaton: we've Donald Bell: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: also Carmen Brooks: not making Marvin Eaton: got the Carmen Brooks: it easier Marvin Eaton: Carmen Brooks Carmen Brooks: then. Marvin Eaton: the thing of, if we're gonna have a non-remote-looking remote, Carmen Brooks: True. Marvin Eaton: how do we yeah. Carmen Brooks: Fair enough. Marvin Eaton: B But no I mean we could do a slide or a compartment, you know, like if it say it's Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: a lit little vaguely ovoidal type of thing, it'd be easy to have a compartment in there. Or you know, a b a b a a series of you know three or four buttons with a menu button and then a side an s up and down type of thing, like on um like on a D_V_D_ player. You Carmen Brooks: Mm-hmm. Marvin Eaton: know you see the modern D_V_D_ players'll just have um a menu button on the side and then Carmen Brooks: Yeah it's Marvin Eaton: four Carmen Brooks: just a Marvin Eaton: buttons Carmen Brooks: scroll. Marvin Eaton: around them and you Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: can just kind of manoeuvre Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: through the menu like that. Donald Bell: So are we gonna are we talking we need to figure out what kind of buttons we're going to use, are we going to use scroll buttons? Rubber buttons? Um Marvin Eaton: Well it seems like I dunno it seems to Carmen Brooks that we could just do the um stick with the rubber 'cause since we're probably gonna be using Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: some kind of um rubber for the outside case we Carmen Brooks: Probably. Marvin Eaton: might as well stick with that um. Donald Bell: Right. Monte Heil: I think to a certain extent we have to stick with uh kind of uh a little bit traditional in terms of the buttons and then Carmen Brooks: Right. Monte Heil: and then make our unique feature our casing and what not Carmen Brooks: Mm. Monte Heil: and our voice command. Carmen Brooks: Well no it's basic just like four directions that are that can use as menu or channel and volume or however you wanna do it, are really versatile and everybody's already got them to some extent on the remotes they already own so it's not like we're dealing with everybody relearning things 'cause that's not something anybody's gonna wanna buy a new for. Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: Mm 'kay, um. We've already kind of covered this as well. That seems to be selling um and we we've more or less agreed that we want to kar target this youth market, Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: um. Especially now with eighteen to thirty five year olds being such a large quantity of the population. Carmen Brooks: Right, particularly in technological fields, so Marvin Eaton: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Carmen Brooks: that's exactly where we're headed. Marvin Eaton: Okay. Um. Yeah alright, well, more or less covered what we need to cover I think fi an an any final thoughts before we think about doing the protot moving on to the prototype. Monte Heil: Well what are we actually doing? What Marvin Eaton: Right. Monte Heil: were Marvin Eaton: I was just gonna step on to um Carmen Brooks: Uh. Oh it wasn't in the way but Marvin Eaton: I wasn't? Carmen Brooks: yeah, Marvin Eaton: Oh, my Carmen Brooks: whatever. Marvin Eaton: bad um sorry. Carmen Brooks: No, don't worry about it. Marvin Eaton: The um, yeah okay I was just gonna assign tasks in the next Monte Heil: Sure. Marvin Eaton: b anyth any oth any other Carmen Brooks: Okay. Marvin Eaton: final thoughts before we go ahead and cool? Donald Bell: So Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Donald Bell: have we decided that we are gonna go with different style cases for different people? Or are we just Marvin Eaton: Um. Donald Bell: going to go with one? ..It's very, it's very hard thing to predict because Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Donald Bell: you have different cases and that might open up your market a little bit obviously, but if you have just one case and it doesn't go very well mm. Marvin Eaton: Yeah. Carmen Brooks: Right. Donald Bell: It's a tough situation, but obviously having more cases also costs more so Marvin Eaton: Well then again colours wouldn't be so hard to do, you could have uh Donald Bell: There's an idea. Marvin Eaton: a, you know, a um uh kind of a natural wood colour, like a stained wood and Carmen Brooks: Mm. Marvin Eaton: um, I don't know, olive green or something. Carmen Brooks: Yeah. Marvin Eaton: That wouldn't be so much of a problem to incorporate into the colour of the thing. Monte Heil: And again copying iMac's kind of for iPod Mac Carmen Brooks: Yeah, Monte Heil: Apple's Carmen Brooks: get Monte Heil: uh Carmen Brooks: in there. Monte Heil: colour scheme. Carmen Brooks: Yeah, totally. Marvin Eaton: Yeah, I think that's probably a good Donald Bell okay so let's work on uh multiple case colours. But yeah, stick with the same kind of kinda yeah, the same basic non-remote kind of remote design. Cool. Alright, so we'll have the next meeting about half an hour, um. I want the uh I'd like Nathan, I'd like you to work on just the basic look and feel, what can we accomplish, um, given these parameters that we're just gonna sort of have this kind of uh non-remote remote. Um, Donald Bell: Right. Marvin Eaton: what are our broad constraints before we deve design a prototype. And um Ron if you can figure out how probably best to lay out this idea of this simple design with the voice recognition built in and also this kind of drop down or s on the side kind of menu options simple. Somehow work out how we can get this all s in the same place. Um, and if you can check product evaluation with m some pilots and stuff. Um I need you guys to work together on making a prototype, um using um prototype building materials um. And also um specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches as Donald Bell: Oh Marvin Eaton: well. Donald Bell: excellent yeah. Marvin Eaton: So that's what to start with for now, is that alright, Carmen Brooks: Cool. Marvin Eaton: you guys feel Donald Bell: That Marvin Eaton: clear Donald Bell: sounds Marvin Eaton: about this? Donald Bell: good. Monte Heil: Fabulous. Marvin Eaton: Alright. I guess we'll just hit the bricks. Thanks guys. Carmen Brooks: Cool.

Donald Bell presented an analysis of cost and the manufacturing options that were available to the group. Carmen Brooks presented market trends and the organic trend that this project would adopt. She discussed materials that could be used to follow this trend. Monte Heil presented several interface concepts including voice recognition, a spinning wheel design, and a touch screen interface. The group then discussed the features of the device. They discussed the costs and benefits of using either voice recognition or the touch screen interface, and decided on voice recognition based on their marketing data that favored it. They decided to use solar power to power the device. The group discussed the non-traditional look the device could have since the voice recognition would allow it to be stationary. They discussed using rubber for the case. The group talked about hiding the complicated functions from the main interface, using rubber for the buttons, and having different cases to suit different tastes. Marvin Eaton reiterated that the product was being marketed towards the youth market, and then gave out assignments and instructed the group to work together to build the prototype.

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Frederick Nixon: Okay. Oh I totally Yeah 'cause I moved it. 'S put it over here. Then we don't have to worry about it. David Williams: Ready for this? Jack Wagster: All set? Cool. Alright, it is PowerPoint time. I've done more PowerPoints in this particular experiment than I've ever done in my life before this experiment Fred Thompson: Yeah. Jack Wagster: which is kind of fun. David Williams: Oh man. Jack Wagster: So uh here we have our detailed design meeting where we will um look at the prototype and um right so um, I finally figured out what this whole second bullet point is about in my that my coach was sending to Frederick Nixon. It means I'm supposed to read the minutes from the previous meeting. Fred Thompson: Oh really? Okay. Jack Wagster: I think. Frederick Nixon: Huh. Jack Wagster: I don't know. Otherwise it's just saying I'm the secretary and I'm therefore I'm taking the minutes, s so just to go um just real briefly to go over minutes from last meeting, uh, I will open them slowly, no? Wait for it, wait for it. Frederick Nixon: Yeah that's not you. Jack Wagster: No. That's how the Wait. This is, this is very high-powered stuff here, double-clicking, there we go. So um basically the moral of the story from our last minute uh last meeting was that um we that we had meetings from uh we had presentations done by Fred Thompson, uh or from Nathan, and Ron and from Sarah about what we can do here um and what sort of limitations we're operating with um uh excuse Frederick Nixon what limitations we're operating under, what kind of risk we'd be looking at with some of the various approaches we were discussing and we essentially came to the conclusion that we should develop a remote with uh voice recognition, I_E_ that had a vaguely non-remote like shape um because you didn't really need to use it as a remote since you could just use your voice. That would include some mostly just the simple design features for a television operation but with a slide or a fold-out bay for more advanced functions for users. Um, and uh the uh uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ were asked to go ahead and start developing a prototype for us to look at. So. That's sorted, back to the main meet here, um, go ahead and take it away guys. Fred Thompson: Well. Uh, we have assembled our prototype, um. What's to be said about it? Um, we took into account a lot of the things that we went over in the last meeting, um. Some of the most important things to consider are that we decided not to go for the touch screen which you can see Jack Wagster: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: and opted for some very large buttons for the primary functions, um. This is going to be the on off button and have these buttons to go through the channels um and then two volume buttons down here, d uh we decided those were the most important uh buttons. And then, for the more advanced uh functions there is a slide out panel here um and you can see that there are lots of other things going on. But this actually can slide back in and provides a very nice aesthetic when it's all put away, um. As far as the uh whole visible light thing, we decided to go with the Frederick Nixon: Ah. Fred Thompson: multiple colours coming out, Jack Wagster: Nice. Fred Thompson: why not? Frederick Nixon: Fair enough. Fred Thompson: Of course, if that's annoying for some people that function can be turned off. Jack Wagster: Perfect. Fred Thompson: Um. David Williams: No Fred Thompson: Go ahead. David Williams: it's important to we talked a quite a bit about uh you know the the interchangeable uh faces Frederick Nixon: Mm. David Williams: and what we've done here is come up with a bit of a natural look here um f Frederick Nixon: Right. David Williams: we call it fruity if you will. Frederick Nixon: Appropriate, David Williams: Um. Frederick Nixon: okay. David Williams: Right, um, of course that's uh interchangeable and uh I think it would be desirable for the uh for the regular product in the in the in the Frederick Nixon: Mm 'kay. David Williams: in first to be something a little bit more subdued but this is kind of something that can be done Frederick Nixon: It is an option. David Williams: um and as you can see on the television there uh we have the uh voice detector device Jack Wagster: Oh, right. David Williams: um on Fred Thompson: That's David Williams: the Fred Thompson: this David Williams: top Fred Thompson: here. David Williams: there. Frederick Nixon: Ah. David Williams: Um. Frederick Nixon: I see. David Williams: So that that will work quite well with with regard to finding this uh contraption. Um, what other things do we see here, well, um if you give it a touch it does have actually a bit of a spongy feel, um, so I think that will work well with regards to our market. Um and uh let's see, well clearly there's gonna be some more colours and what not available. Um uh do you have anything else to add to that? Fred Thompson: Um I worried about the materials, it is uh the entire thing is covered in a rubber coating so it's very durable uh, it's not gonna break like some types of plastic that's dropped. Um, and of course as you can see and if you touch it it does have that nice squishy feel. David Williams: It's actually important to note that the television, uh you know if there's an earthquake or anything like that, that i it actually is edible inside. Fred Thompson: Fact, I dunno if you noticed, but I wrote the uh the company's name Jack Wagster: Oh Fred Thompson: on the telephone Jack Wagster: well Fred Thompson: screen, Jack Wagster: done Frederick Nixon: Nice. Fred Thompson: I thought Jack Wagster: yeah, Fred Thompson: that was kinda Jack Wagster: yeah Fred Thompson: nice. Jack Wagster: oh Fred Thompson: This Jack Wagster: ok Fred Thompson: was actually an apple on the inside. Frederick Nixon: Do we need Fred Thompson: This Frederick Nixon: to worry about um rot factors? David Williams: Um it's encased in a new uh type of uh Frederick Nixon: Oh okay, there's preservatives David Williams: polymer Frederick Nixon: involved, Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: we don't David Williams: yeah. Frederick Nixon: need to worry, David Williams: It's Fred Thompson: We David Williams: fine. Frederick Nixon: okay. Fred Thompson: got a bit ahead of ourselves, I know we're not David Williams: Hmm. Frederick Nixon: Fair Fred Thompson: talking Frederick Nixon: enough. Fred Thompson: about making televisions at this point Jack Wagster: Edible Fred Thompson: or anything Jack Wagster: televisions, Fred Thompson: like Frederick Nixon: No Fred Thompson: that, but Jack Wagster: it's a Frederick Nixon: but Jack Wagster: wave of the future. Frederick Nixon: It's a David Williams: It's Frederick Nixon: couple David Williams: pos Frederick Nixon: years off at least. David Williams: a possible new Frederick Nixon: Okay. David Williams: product. Um, but I think that's I think that sums up the main features of our of the remote, um Jack Wagster: Brilliant. Fred Thompson: Right. David Williams: I dunno if you guys have any questions or f whether that uh whether we need to worry about any uh other marketing areas or anything of that nature. Um, did we come in under budget? Fred Thompson: Uh we did, yeah. This cost well to put this into um production, we're looking at about what was our goal? It was twelve fifty Euro um and this actually came in at about eleven ninety nine. Um, so I was quite pleased with that. David Williams: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: One thing that we didn't do um obviously we had a choice with the buttons whether to use scroll buttons or standard rubber buttons, but we just went for a classic rubber button Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: and um since we did that we didn't have to use as many microchips which was quite nice and that's what helped keep the cost down. Jack Wagster: Brilliant. Fred Thompson: So even though it has Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: a lot of modern technology, um for example the voice recognition, in a lot of ways it's just a simple remote Frederick Nixon: Okay. Fred Thompson: and um David Williams: Mm. Fred Thompson: I think if we shopped around for other manufacturers um we might be able to get even cheaper. David Williams: Did Fred Thompson: And David Williams: we talk about the voice recognition uh option? Fred Thompson: Oh no, we haven't talked David Williams: So Fred Thompson: about that yet David Williams: uh Fred Thompson: have we? David Williams: so uh yeah on the back here you all noticed this area here which is actually the voice recognition uh Frederick Nixon: Okay. David Williams: uh console and uh I think it's nicely designed into the into the overall Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: look. Um, but basically the voice recognition uh incorporates um the latest designs that our research team has been able to cufw uh come up with. Basically uh quite similar to the coffee maker Frederick Nixon: Mm David Williams: um Frederick Nixon: 'kay. David Williams: design that we were talking about earlier and um, I think that uh has given a proven um ease of use and Fred Thompson: Hmm. David Williams: what not. Fred Thompson: Yeah. David Williams: And uh allows features like the remote actually talking back to the user Frederick Nixon: Right. David Williams: um, so. Jack Wagster: Cool. Fred Thompson: Any questions? Jack Wagster: No, no I think that's Frederick Nixon: Do we have um other, for lack of a better word, skins? Covers? In play now or are those ones gonna be developed later once we see how the couple we have g go or? Fred Thompson: Um, do you Frederick Nixon: Do Fred Thompson: wanna Frederick Nixon: we Fred Thompson: answer Frederick Nixon: know Fred Thompson: this Frederick Nixon: where we Fred Thompson: one Frederick Nixon: stand Fred Thompson: or do you want Frederick Nixon: on Fred Thompson: Frederick Nixon to Frederick Nixon: that Fred Thompson: answer Frederick Nixon: yet? Fred Thompson: it? David Williams: Well we didn't quite have enough material uh. Frederick Nixon: Oh I wasn't expecting a prototype Fred Thompson: Yeah, Frederick Nixon: I just David Williams: Oh Frederick Nixon: didn't David Williams: I see, Frederick Nixon: know if you Fred Thompson: yeah. Frederick Nixon: guys had any in mind David Williams: right, Frederick Nixon: yet. Fred Thompson: Um, David Williams: um. Fred Thompson: well as you can see this is just a most superficial layer and um it'd be very easy to Frederick Nixon: Okay. Fred Thompson: put another layer Frederick Nixon: Just Fred Thompson: of Frederick Nixon: veneer Fred Thompson: something else Frederick Nixon: really, yeah. Fred Thompson: like David Williams: Right. Frederick Nixon: Okay. David Williams: Actually this bottom red ring here just unclips Frederick Nixon: Mm-hmm. David Williams: and then you put Frederick Nixon: And the David Williams: a Frederick Nixon: whole David Williams: a new Frederick Nixon: thing David Williams: a new uh Frederick Nixon: Okay. David Williams: a new plate on top of that. Frederick Nixon: Right. David Williams: So I mean there are I we definitely Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: priced out Frederick Nixon: There's David Williams: a spongy even spongier non-natural look Frederick Nixon: Okay. David Williams: um materials which I think worked out fine. We also continued Frederick Nixon: Mm 'kay. David Williams: on with the ideas that f following uh Apple's colour schemes Frederick Nixon: Okay, David Williams: with the kind of the Frederick Nixon: very David Williams: uh Frederick Nixon: cool. David Williams: light orange and Fred Thompson: It's David Williams: the Fred Thompson: not David Williams: green. Fred Thompson: it's not quite a a face plate, it's more like a pseudo-face plate Frederick Nixon: Okay. Fred Thompson: because it's simple enough that in the factory it could we could very easily put a different one on it, it locks into place such that, you know, it's pretty permanent but at the same time, if we wanna go the other way it's just a matter of a couple of adjustments and we could go Frederick Nixon: Okay. Fred Thompson: the face plate way if you know what I mean. Frederick Nixon: Yep. It's still an option if we Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: need it. Very cool, nice job. Jack Wagster: Right, yeah thanks guys that's very, very good work. I like it, brilliant. Um, what we need to discuss now is the finance of it, um I got Frederick Nixon you've got you provided a number that actually sounds quite nice. Um the trouble is I was just given this by finance. Fred Thompson: Oh. Jack Wagster: Um, it's a spreadsheet of the parts and I've just tentatively put in what it's going to Fred Thompson: Ooh. Jack Wagster: look like um. I'm just gonna clear this out real quickly, but it looks like So we'll just if we can just itemize what's in here, we've got this it's a solar cell thing right? Fred Thompson: Right uh Jack Wagster: With Fred Thompson: we Jack Wagster: a Fred Thompson: didn't Jack Wagster: back-up Fred Thompson: really touch Jack Wagster: battery? Fred Thompson: on that but it it's in there, yep. Jack Wagster: With the ba okay. Um and David Williams: The voice recognition area actually doubles as uh as the solar cell area. Jack Wagster: Clever, David Williams: Yeah. Jack Wagster: clever, well done. Um so I guess that would mean we've got a bit of a um It's a s a speaker and a sensor at the same time isn't it? Fred Thompson: Yeah, yeah. It's just making use of the same space and Frederick Nixon: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: the same materials, Jack Wagster: Okay. Fred Thompson: but Jack Wagster: Um and the case, it's more of a single-curved case, I guess would be that be the general Fred Thompson: Yeah, one big Frederick Nixon: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: curve I guess you could say. Jack Wagster: Um and we've got a rubber skin material basically throughout. Um. Push button interface um with this other drop-down so maybe we've got two push button interfaces don't Fred Thompson: Yeah, Jack Wagster: we? Fred Thompson: mm-hmm. Jack Wagster: Um. And um a special I guess it's uh we've got a sort of a wood materi a rubbery type material Fred Thompson: Yeah, special. Jack Wagster: that throughout, yeah. Fred Thompson: And s I guess you have to mark special colour and special form as well, don't you? 'Cause it i it is very unconventional, Jack Wagster: Yeah, it's it's Fred Thompson: I like Jack Wagster: quite Fred Thompson: to think Jack Wagster: unique. Fred Thompson: of it as Jack Wagster: I Fred Thompson: unconventional. Jack Wagster: like it, yeah it's So it looks like Frederick Nixon: M come in at sixteen? Jack Wagster: a bit over Fred Thompson: Oh. Jack Wagster: budget, Fred Thompson: Huh, Jack Wagster: um. Fred Thompson: doesn't match up does it? Jack Wagster: So what we could do perhaps, a simple fix would maybe to switch away from the solar cells um or take out the back-up battery. Fred Thompson: How do Jack Wagster: Uh Fred Thompson: you feel about that? David Williams: I mean I think that uh if we're talking about it being one of our main selling features, being environmental and without the batteries and what not, although it does still have a battery so I'm not sure that Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: you know what the sell is on that. Fred Thompson: I mean we could take we could take the battery out of it you see and it'd probably work ninety nine per cent of the time but you're gonna have to set up a call centre for that one per cent of the time when people are calling and saying oh look my remote isn't working what Jack Wagster: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: am I Frederick Nixon: Mm Fred Thompson: gonna do? Frederick Nixon: k. Jack Wagster: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: People'd be real upset. I Frederick Nixon: True. Fred Thompson: think in the long-run it's better to keep the battery, it's hard to scrap the whole cell battery idea 'cause that's so integral to the theme that we have. Jack Wagster: Hmm. Jack Wagster: What's difficult, we have all these things integral to the um to the design Frederick Nixon: Nah. Jack Wagster: of it that we just can't back out of now, it would have to be seems like we'd have to go back to square one in a way. Um if we were gonna try to undo one bit we'd probably have to undo most of it, Fred Thompson: Yeah. Jack Wagster: um Frederick Nixon: Although we don't wanna get rid of the whole environmental I mean obviously the solar cell is a big piece of the way we're marketing this as like a natural, new thing, but honestly if we cut that one piece out we're actually coming in under budget if I've done my math correctly. Fred Thompson: Hmm. David Williams: I mean you might Frederick Nixon: I mean David Williams: be able to sway Frederick Nixon on the idea that we our main selling point could be already this voice recognition thing I mean that's Frederick Nixon: Which, David Williams: what sets Frederick Nixon: it's David Williams: us apart right? Frederick Nixon: yeah that's what setting us into this young market, I mean that's where we started from, so I don't know, and I mean you know perhaps when the cell technology comes down in price we can bring that back into the game but it looks like at this point that may be out of our league. David Williams: And the reality Fred Thompson: Right. David Williams: is you know, for Frederick Nixon from an ideological stand point, I'd like to stick with the uh the solar cell, but I h kind of have to throw myself Frederick Nixon: Right. David Williams: in the in the business structure model Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: here and Fred Thompson: Right. David Williams: uh you know I think Jack Wagster: It's either or. David Williams: I think that Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: I think that we need to come to a compromise here and maybe move ahead with the project, without the solar cell. Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: I think Fred Thompson: I guess Frederick Nixon: unfortunately Fred Thompson: we might have to Frederick Nixon: that's Fred Thompson: do Frederick Nixon: our best Fred Thompson: that. Frederick Nixon: option. Fred Thompson: It's the only way we're gonna get below our uh goal isn't it? Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: Of twelve fifty. Jack Wagster: 'Cause we can't remove the push buttons 'cause they're Fred Thompson: Yeah, Frederick Nixon: It kind Jack Wagster: um Frederick Nixon: of yeah. Jack Wagster: and we can't get rid of the uh I mean removing the changing the case wouldn't be so much of a David Williams: Savings. Jack Wagster: mm-mm, um, Frederick Nixon: Mm-mm. Jack Wagster: nor would changing the case materials. Um. So yeah that looks like to be the only thing. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: So that would be the it's a major change but Yeah. Fred Thompson: Gotta Jack Wagster: Alright, Fred Thompson: do what you gotta do. Jack Wagster: so we're in agreement on that. Frederick Nixon: Unfortunately I think we are. David Williams: No, I think that was a good compromise you brought forward Sarah. Jack Wagster: Right. Moving along swiftly. Um, so I guess now we just go to the project evaluation which I will allow Sarah to take Frederick Nixon: That Jack Wagster: over. Frederick Nixon: would be Frederick Nixon. Um cord? Jack Wagster: Ah of course, sorry. Frederick Nixon: No problem. Jack Wagster: Whoosh. Frederick Nixon: Can you reach, that David Williams: Yep. Frederick Nixon: would be great, thank you. Jack Wagster: That'd be great Frederick Nixon: I didn't even do that one on purpose either, damn. Okay, um, basically I was just evaluating um from what we know of how our product's working right now with the criteria that we set at the beginning of these are the things we needed to do, these are the things that look like we feel they're important. Um so I was looking at basic design things, does it fulfil its functions as a remote? Is the design what we wanted it to do? I are technologies up to where we hoped they would be and does it fulfil the aesthetic qualities that our original market research was looking for? Um. Basic questions like, you know, does it turn on? Does it respond to voice recognition? And overall, in general, it looks like it's coming up to par. Fred Thompson: Mm. Frederick Nixon: Um, the only thing is with with the pull-out panel, that is, can it take some adjusting because it's a new sort of interface, um that looked like it was coming up rough, but then, once you get used to it, it does make a lot of sense. So I think overall we're headed in the right direction. Fred Thompson: Really good. Frederick Nixon: So. David Williams: They like that spongy feel. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. It looks like it's going over well, David Williams: And Frederick Nixon: so David Williams: the paging Fred Thompson: Six? David Williams: function works well, that's Frederick Nixon: we're David Williams: good to hear, Frederick Nixon: we're good David Williams: we Frederick Nixon: yeah. David Williams: worked hard on that one. Fred Thompson: We Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: did. Frederick Nixon: It's I think eventually if we do um branch out with this product maybe we do have a higher budget options and if it goes over with this model we can look into um wider range voice recognition like from other rooms of the house and stuff, but for now, what we've got is working in the range we need it for, so it's all good. Jack Wagster: Brilliant. Fred Thompson: I am bit Frederick Nixon: That's Fred Thompson: disappointed Frederick Nixon: everything from Fred Thompson: about Frederick Nixon: Frederick Nixon. Fred Thompson: losing the solar panel Jack Wagster: Hmm. Fred Thompson: but Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: it's okay. Mm. Frederick Nixon: Yeah, it is a set-back, but Okay, do you need the cord back? David Williams: W we might Jack Wagster: Um David Williams: have Jack Wagster: yeah, David Williams: uh Jack Wagster: I was just David Williams: we Jack Wagster: go on. David Williams: might have lost that granola market again that Fred Thompson: I David Williams: we're Fred Thompson: know. Jack Wagster: Well they don't own tellys anyway do they? David Williams: I guess Fred Thompson: True. David Williams: that's true. Jack Wagster: Right. So, um, this one's a bit unclear to Frederick Nixon to be perfectly fair, um. I got this slide from the coach and I'm not sure what it's connected to. Um so I guess we are going to discuss um our project process um and that is gonna go into my report. So I guess this is the point where we go um uh out of role it looks like and talk about our satisfaction for room for creativity and so forth and Fred Thompson: Okay. Jack Wagster: how that all worked, I guess, um. Frederick Nixon: As in within the team Jack Wagster: I think Frederick Nixon: or? Jack Wagster: so yeah. Fred Thompson: Right so it's Frederick Nixon: Okay. Fred Thompson: just kind of a Jack Wagster: I think Fred Thompson: open Jack Wagster: it's Fred Thompson: mic kind of thing or Jack Wagster: I mm-hmm, I think so. Fred Thompson: 'Kay. Jack Wagster: I think Frederick Nixon: It is now, you're in charge Jack Wagster: hope Frederick Nixon: so there you go. Jack Wagster: I'm not screwing up an experiment. But I trust that she would jump in if I was so okay fair enough. Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: Whatever. Jack Wagster: Um right, um so any thoughts? Fred Thompson: Are we considering Frederick Nixon: Um. Fred Thompson: these points here? Jack Wagster: Yeah. Fred Thompson: Okay. Frederick Nixon: I think they're starting blocks yeah. Jack Wagster: What do you guys feel about the process? Frederick Nixon: Um, you know I think in general, for a day's worth of work we actually were relatively productive, considering the little amount of input we had going in. Jack Wagster: Mm-hmm. Frederick Nixon: Um, and the technology has definitely been a help, it's really been interesting to try out all this new stuff. David Williams: We didn't use the whiteboard at all. Fred Thompson: No. Jack Wagster: No, Frederick Nixon: No, Jack Wagster: no Frederick Nixon: we Jack Wagster: whiteboard. Frederick Nixon: didn't. We could now if that'd make up for it but really David Williams: And Frederick Nixon: and I feel like if you guys had been designing in here perhaps that would have changed but because of room constraints, doesn't really matter. David Williams: Um, also had I not been intrigued about the pen, I don't think I woulda used it at all, I didn't write barely anything. Frederick Nixon: Yeah I think I was taking notes more often than usual just 'cause Fred Thompson: Yeah, Frederick Nixon: I liked the pen, Fred Thompson: it's true. Frederick Nixon: yeah. David Williams: Uh. Fred Thompson: Mm. Jack Wagster: Was pretty cool tack though. David Williams: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: Definitely. Frederick Nixon: I am disappointed I didn't get a note back from my personal coach. Fred Thompson: As you write your personal coach. Frederick Nixon: Yeah, but I didn't get a response so we'll see. Fred Thompson: What if you get a response two or three months from now? Frederick Nixon: Okay Fred Thompson: That'd Frederick Nixon: that Fred Thompson: be Frederick Nixon: would Fred Thompson: weird. Frederick Nixon: be kinda creepy. Jack Wagster: Attempts to contact coach ineffective. Frederick Nixon: Well what kind of coaching is that really? What if I really needed something. David Williams: I so I don't n I think there was a lot of room for creativity, we could do whatever basically Frederick Nixon: I think so. David Williams: what we wanted until the budget came down on us, um. Frederick Nixon: And even then we did get a decent product turned out although it's not everything we wanted it to be. Fred Thompson: Yeah. David Williams: With the natural look. Fred Thompson: That's very natural. Jack Wagster: Very natural look. Frederick Nixon: Organic, really. Jack Wagster: That's the brilliance of they had a p they had a peeler in here. Frederick Nixon: And highly resourceful team mates might I add Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: which is always a plus. Jack Wagster: Yeah, I think, yeah re I thought it was like really creative actually, I mean. Frederick Nixon: Mm yeah, David Williams: I Frederick Nixon: I'm impressed. David Williams: think the teamwork was good Fred Thompson: And to David Williams: as Fred Thompson: prove David Williams: well. Fred Thompson: that we weren't wasteful we didn't waste a single bit of Play-Doh, we used every bit. Frederick Nixon: Nice. All four of those little containers. Fred Thompson: Yeah, Jack Wagster: Including Fred Thompson: I guess Jack Wagster: the s the multi-coloured wave pattern. Fred Thompson: My one my one criticism is that we didn't have enough colours to work with, we only had four, Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: wasn't enough. Frederick Nixon: You could have developed multiple skins really had Fred Thompson: I know Frederick Nixon: you had Fred Thompson: it Frederick Nixon: more colours. Fred Thompson: could have been amazing. Frederick Nixon: Oh well. Jack Wagster: What did you guys think about the the the roles? Fred Thompson: Hmm. Frederick Nixon: They were good. Fred Thompson: Yeah it's f kind of fun, Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: it was I think it was pretty clever 'cause we were never able to get too far off track because the information came in at the right time and Frederick Nixon: True. Fred Thompson: kind of filled in the gaps enough. At the same time you had enough room to kind of just make things up, Frederick Nixon: Do your own. Fred Thompson: which was kind of fun. Frederick Nixon: Though I did feel like th the level of information dropped off severely over the course of the day. Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: I mean maybe it's just Frederick Nixon but I didn't actually get any information for the last presentation at all. Jack Wagster: That's true, Frederick Nixon: Nothing, Jack Wagster: I I got this spreadsheet. Frederick Nixon: I didn't even get an email, like that was it. So, yeah, I feel like that was slightly lacking but then you know, fill in the blanks on your own, level of creativity upped. David Williams: Well Frederick Nixon: Whatever. David Williams: I think that was I think that was an issue I kept finding with regard to Jack Wagster: Of what to do. David Williams: well no but also yeah when I was reporting about what each of us was doing I was often Fred Thompson: Mm. Frederick Nixon: Mm-hmm. David Williams: confused as to what you were doing Frederick Nixon: Uh-huh, that wasn't very much. Fred Thompson: You know David Williams: felt Frederick Nixon: Mm. David Williams: like you know a lot of our discussion would centre around n specifically what my task was because that was kind of the interface Fred Thompson: Yeah. David Williams: portion which was what Frederick Nixon: Yes. David Williams: the whole project was about Jack Wagster: Mm, mm. David Williams: uh Frederick Nixon: Hmm, very much so. David Williams: but and then in the end I think our jobs kind of melded together a Fred Thompson: Yeah. David Williams: little bit more, Fred Thompson: That was fun. David Williams: which Fred Thompson: I think David Williams: was fine. Fred Thompson: the most helpful thing out of everything was getting the the PowerPoint slides already put together David Williams: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: for you Frederick Nixon: Yeah, Fred Thompson: 'cause if Frederick Nixon: already Fred Thompson: we didn't Frederick Nixon: having Fred Thompson: have Frederick Nixon: the Fred Thompson: that Frederick Nixon: formatted stuff Fred Thompson: there's Frederick Nixon: helped Fred Thompson: no way Frederick Nixon: a Fred Thompson: we Frederick Nixon: lot. Fred Thompson: could have got all that done in time. Frederick Nixon: Very much so. Jack Wagster: Cool. David Williams: And I think your leadership was quite good. Fred Thompson: It was Frederick Nixon: Hmm. Fred Thompson: really good yeah. Jack Wagster: She said I I I she actually made a comment off boy you're getting into this and I really I think it's true I did get I I Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: felt like I got way too into it. Frederick Nixon: That's kind of a good thing though, Jack Wagster: I felt like I Fred Thompson: It's Jack Wagster: slipped Fred Thompson: kinda fun. Frederick Nixon: you Jack Wagster: into Frederick Nixon: know, Jack Wagster: it a lot. Frederick Nixon: give the rest of us some structure to work with so hey. Jack Wagster: I dunno. David Williams: An so is that the first time you've taken on that kind of role? Jack Wagster: The first time I've ever done anything like yeah project project management. I usually Frederick Nixon: Hmm. Jack Wagster: organise crap, it's one thing to do, you know set up a party with your friends, Fred Thompson: Yeah. Jack Wagster: you know? Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: Little different. Jack Wagster: But you guys felt that you could keep the, yeah, suspension of disbelief kind of like like the role Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: and the okay? Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: I except for a couple moments where it just got out of hand and I knew we were Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: all lying through our teeth, other than that David Williams: I had to admit, as soon as w we started I mean as soon as we got the Play-Doh, Frederick Nixon: I could only imagine. David Williams: th you know the whole concept of really trying to stick with reality went out the window. Jack Wagster: Yeah, yeah. Maybe in in Legos you know? David Williams: Possibly. Jack Wagster: Be fun with Legos too, like make a remote control or spaceship, we used to have spaceship Legos did you guys ever used to build spaceships David Williams: Oh yeah, Jack Wagster: with Legos Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: still Jack Wagster: everybody David Williams: have 'em. Jack Wagster: knows Frederick Nixon: Totally. Jack Wagster: best spaceships ever. Um you guys felt like there was enough teamwork in all? Fred Thompson: Yeah? Frederick Nixon: I think so. David Williams: Yep. Jack Wagster: Hmm. Fred Thompson: You Jack Wagster: No Fred Thompson: don't. Jack Wagster: I, no I dunno, I d I I dunno, I don't I I was just Frederick Nixon: Though Jack Wagster: I Frederick Nixon: we didn't actually I mean other than minor discussion at meetings there wasn't except for the actual building, Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: but Jack Wagster: It's true Frederick Nixon: I feel Jack Wagster: huh? Frederick Nixon: like if this was a team project there actually would have been much more of the collaborative like brainstorming, use the board well and this would have been six months' worth of work, not like Jack Wagster: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: three hours' worth of meetings. David Williams: I mean I think had the issue been more serious we probably woulda brainstormed more during our meetings as Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: That's David Williams: a Frederick Nixon: true. David Williams: team. Jack Wagster: Yeah. Course I'm I'm conscious of the idea of Jack Wagster asking if you guys feel like there's a team you know it's like, kind of like, like hmm. It Frederick Nixon: Yeah Jack Wagster: d Frederick Nixon: that is kind of Jack Wagster: But yeah. Interesting. It's kind of fascinating wasn't it? I mean the whole process of Fred Thompson: Wonder why is there anything about the way that we got so much inform what was it that kept us from going to the the board? Jack Wagster: I don't know. I I don't know if there was a ri I th Frederick Nixon: Mine was the mics. I didn't feel like getting up and down and dealing with all these wires, Fred Thompson: Yeah, Frederick Nixon: I was afraid Fred Thompson: that's Frederick Nixon: I was gonna Fred Thompson: it Frederick Nixon: break Fred Thompson: 'cause Frederick Nixon: something Fred Thompson: the Frederick Nixon: actually. Fred Thompson: mics are loose and each Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: time you get up it's s a possibility Jack Wagster: Mm. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: of tripping over something or getting tangled or. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: Well I dunno what I woulda shown on that board. Frederick Nixon: True, but it didn't even occur to Frederick Nixon as an option, I mean I don't Jack Wagster: Nor Frederick Nixon: know that Jack Wagster: I. Frederick Nixon: I would have but I know that I consciously didn't. David Williams: I mean it's just like the paper I don't know what I really needed the paper for. Frederick Nixon: True. David Williams: Um, because I've got this laptop. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: Standard, I just used it 'cause it's literally right in front of Frederick Nixon. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: I wanna see the output files Frederick Nixon: Well Jack Wagster: from Frederick Nixon: it looks Jack Wagster: these Frederick Nixon: really professional. Jack Wagster: um, from the digital paper. I wanna see wh Frederick Nixon: I know. Jack Wagster: wh what my my handwriting looks like digitized because my handwriting is crap. Fred Thompson: Yeah, Jack Wagster: I mean, Fred Thompson: that's Jack Wagster: just Fred Thompson: it. Jack Wagster: to see what it looks like in P_D_F_ format or something. Fred Thompson: Usually I would do a lot more doodling too but I didn't because Frederick Nixon: I know, I felt like I needed to be professional so I didn't like draw all over my paper and stuff. Okay, well not entirely, but still, I doodled less than I usually do. Jack Wagster: T I I'm curious about what the de-briefing is gonna be like. You know, like what is the uh what exactly we're looking for here. David Williams: So is this all we need to get through? Jack Wagster: I dunno, I'm not sure Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: what the Frederick Nixon: guess. Jack Wagster: new ideas found i is about. Frederick Nixon: Um. Fred Thompson: New ideas. Frederick Nixon: It David Williams: Is it Frederick Nixon: did it just say in an email that we need to discuss that? Jack Wagster: Well, that's the thing I got i in the email I got this PowerPoint file but this slide was just Frederick Nixon: That slide Jack Wagster: there, Frederick Nixon: was like that? Jack Wagster: mm-hmm. I didn't change this one at all. Fred Thompson: Hmm. Frederick Nixon: Well. Jack Wagster: Um Fred Thompson: I guess Jack Wagster: ch Fred Thompson: we're on the right track. Jack Wagster: Yeah well. David Williams: Any new ideas with regard to Jack Wagster: W David Williams: remote control concepts? Fred Thompson: No, Jack Wagster: I kinda Fred Thompson: none. Jack Wagster: like Frederick Nixon: Uh Jack Wagster: th Frederick Nixon: I think they still do their job. Fred Thompson: I Jack Wagster: Yeah Fred Thompson: think Jack Wagster: you Fred Thompson: they're Jack Wagster: can't Fred Thompson: fine actually. Frederick Nixon: I am thinking outside the little square box though, with literally Jack Wagster: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: in like form I don't Fred Thompson: Yeah, maybe a s a circle would be alright, Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: different. Jack Wagster: Does kinda make you wonder, I mean, how much can you do with a remote control? It's like inventing a new car. Yeah Frederick Nixon: It's still Jack Wagster: yeah, you Frederick Nixon: gotta Jack Wagster: can Frederick Nixon: be technically car shaped or it won't fit on the road, you know? Jack Wagster: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: Don't know. Jack Wagster: Hmm. Um. David Williams: What is Jack Wagster: 'Kay. David Williams: that? Our limited Frederick Nixon: Kind David Williams: ability Jack Wagster: So Frederick Nixon: of. Jack Wagster: this David Williams: to Jack Wagster: was David Williams: think outside Jack Wagster: other Fred Thompson: Are we back Jack Wagster: costs. David Williams: the box? Fred Thompson: into Jack Wagster: I dunno. Fred Thompson: project Jack Wagster: I think this Fred Thompson: mood? Jack Wagster: is Frederick Nixon: Oh, how long was our meeting supposed to be? How much time Jack Wagster: forty Frederick Nixon: do we have left? Jack Wagster: ish I I I mm we should go on a bit yeah about the project eval, um. I dunno about you guys but I felt like a bit under-stimulated on the whole thing. Like, Frederick Nixon: Mm. Jack Wagster: what like you know what am I really doing, you know what is Frederick Nixon: Yeah, at the beginning it started out and I felt actually like under pressure like the first couple Jack Wagster: Yep. Frederick Nixon: were taking a lot of work and I was like had like all Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: this brainstorming I was doing and then suddenly I was like well it's just another two minute presentation that you guys don't really care about David Williams: Why? Frederick Nixon: anyway so Jack Wagster: Hey. Frederick Nixon: type away. David Williams: Huh Frederick Nixon: You David Williams: I think it was the real. Frederick Nixon: know, you know what I mean like we all sort Fred Thompson: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: of knew where we were headed with it so it didn't feel David Williams: Yeah. Fred Thompson: Definitely when Frederick Nixon: like it mattered anymore. Fred Thompson: when I first filled out the questionnaire I was marking it probably higher in terms of how much I had to Frederick Nixon: Mm-hmm. Fred Thompson: how much I stressed over it and then by the time I got to the last one I was like, you know, not Frederick Nixon: Whatever. Fred Thompson: very much. Jack Wagster: Mm. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. David Williams: Think it was also realisation of you basically just copy and paste what's given to Fred Thompson: Yeah. David Williams: you into Frederick Nixon: Very David Williams: your presentation Frederick Nixon: much, yeah. David Williams: which uh wasn't so clear to Frederick Nixon at the beginning. Jack Wagster: I actually Fred Thompson: Mm-hmm. Jack Wagster: didn't do that at all though, every single one I a all the presentations I either added slides or edited 'em. I David Williams: Oh Jack Wagster: di David Williams: I added like five slides Jack Wagster: Oh. David Williams: too, Frederick Nixon: See I only got Fred Thompson: Did David Williams: but Fred Thompson: you Frederick Nixon: blank David Williams: I Fred Thompson: really? Frederick Nixon: ones. Fred Thompson: I just got blank ones and Jack Wagster: What? Really? Frederick Nixon: My slides were all blank, they'd have a title maybe David Williams: Yeah, mine Frederick Nixon: and David Williams: too. Frederick Nixon: they were just empty. Fred Thompson: Frederick Nixon too. Jack Wagster: Did they not have they didn't like uh mine yeah they didn't come like this? Like with this was what it looks like. Frederick Nixon: Like Jack Wagster: This is Frederick Nixon: with Jack Wagster: what Frederick Nixon: those Jack Wagster: that Frederick Nixon: words Jack Wagster: looked Frederick Nixon: already Jack Wagster: like, Frederick Nixon: on it? Jack Wagster: literally, just Frederick Nixon: No. Jack Wagster: like David Williams: No. Jack Wagster: that. Interesting. Frederick Nixon: I wondered why yours always looked so more complicated. Jack Wagster: Uh-huh huh huh. Fred Thompson: I deleted slides. Frederick Nixon: I think I added a slide one time. David Williams: I added many slides every time Frederick Nixon: Hey with the whole new background David Williams: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: being innovative, Fred Thompson: That Frederick Nixon: yeah Fred Thompson: was pretty cool, Frederick Nixon: that was Fred Thompson: it Frederick Nixon: class. Fred Thompson: was a high moment of Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: the whole experiment. David Williams: Um. Jack Wagster: Interesting. Any other thoughts come to mind? Frederick Nixon: I wanna know how our product would fare. I Fred Thompson: I Frederick Nixon: can't Fred Thompson: think Frederick Nixon: just Fred Thompson: it Frederick Nixon: leave Fred Thompson: would fail, Frederick Nixon: it there. Fred Thompson: I think it'd be a Frederick Nixon: I Fred Thompson: huge Frederick Nixon: think Fred Thompson: disaster, Frederick Nixon: it would take extensive Fred Thompson: especially Frederick Nixon: marketing, Fred Thompson: if it looks like that. Frederick Nixon: okay, an apple with a red button on top, even I am sceptical. But you know the whole David Williams: Even you. Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Fred Thompson: I don't we kind of designed it to look little bit like a face. Frederick Nixon: I know it Jack Wagster: Yeah but Frederick Nixon: is. Fred Thompson: It's a happy face. David Williams: Actually that looked a lot Frederick Nixon: Mm. David Williams: more like a tongue from previous to uh fr Jack Wagster: Builds. David Williams: some other design uh modifications. Jack Wagster: Mm. David Williams: I hope you appreciate the uh incorporation of some tin foil from a uh Frederick Nixon: I David Williams: random Kit-Kat Frederick Nixon: I noticed David Williams: bar that Frederick Nixon: that. David Williams: happened to be consumed. Frederick Nixon: By accident. Jack Wagster: Interesting. Frederick Nixon: Well huh. An interesting day all in all Jack Wagster: Uh, Fred Thompson: Yeah, Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: yeah, Frederick Nixon: would Fred Thompson: it's Frederick Nixon: say. Jack Wagster: I'd Fred Thompson: uh Jack Wagster: say so. David Williams: So again I reiterate my question of how different we are comp compared to the other groups, especially between culture groups and Frederick Nixon: I David Williams: what not. Jack Wagster: Mm, Frederick Nixon: know. Jack Wagster: I know. David Williams: Mm. Jack Wagster: It Fred Thompson: I Jack Wagster: seemed Fred Thompson: wanna Jack Wagster: like Fred Thompson: see Jack Wagster: everything Fred Thompson: a Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: flowed pretty logically. You know from the the the basics Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: to the conce although the whole concepts thing, the whole concepts phase, I don't think I really understood like the concept. Well Fred Thompson okay Frederick Nixon: 'Cause Jack Wagster: the notion Frederick Nixon: it's such a Jack Wagster: of Frederick Nixon: functional item. Jack Wagster: yeah I mean i it's not like I have a concept of a mug's material, it's just it is what it is. Fred Thompson: Yeah. Jack Wagster: You know, maybe i rather than concepts i it should be th thought of we sh I I thought of I thought of rather than in terms of concepts I thought of it in terms of um like proposed idea. And Frederick Nixon: Mm. Jack Wagster: then the final would be like th the actual specified prototype or whatever, I dunno. But. Fred Thompson: Hmm. Jack Wagster: All in all it's kinda interesting. Frederick Nixon: Mm. Fred Thompson: So we have more slides or? Jack Wagster: No just this closing one. No we've established that the costs weren't really within budget, but we could s you know Frederick Nixon: We Jack Wagster: do Frederick Nixon: got Jack Wagster: it Frederick Nixon: it to be. Jack Wagster: We Frederick Nixon: Like Jack Wagster: did Frederick Nixon: cutting corners. Jack Wagster: the project evaluation based on um Sarah's evaluation of on Frederick Nixon: Kind Jack Wagster: off switches Frederick Nixon: of, though it was Jack Wagster: and Frederick Nixon: really technically an evaluation of the product, not the project in general. Jack Wagster: Mm. Fred Thompson: Mm. Frederick Nixon: Which Jack Wagster: True. Frederick Nixon: I'm not sure is the same thing, at the time that just i made more sense, but I could see if they were really asking about us. Jack Wagster: Yeah. 'Cause we di we had a thu think about it. Um. Yeah. And it's all recorded, woo-hoo. Yeah Frederick Nixon: Yay. Jack Wagster: what Fred Thompson: Hmm. Jack Wagster: I'm gonna I'm gonna put um I'm supposed to do this final report thing at the end so I'll put all that into the final report as well, or as much as seems like maybe not like the articles and stuff, like Fred Thompson: I Jack Wagster: because and if and so forth, but I'll put most of it in the reports. Fred Thompson: It'd be so cool Frederick Nixon: Make Fred Thompson: if Frederick Nixon: it Fred Thompson: we Frederick Nixon: sound Fred Thompson: get Frederick Nixon: eloquent. Fred Thompson: a copy of the recording. Frederick Nixon: Oh, I have to done I've I've done Jack Wagster: Nice. Frederick Nixon: transcription before and it's really ridiculous how many words people say like Jack Wagster: Oh Frederick Nixon: just Jack Wagster: yeah. Frederick Nixon: in the middle of their sentences like that that mean nothing. Jack Wagster: There's a whole branch of psychology that looks into that, psycholinguistics. David Williams: What Fred Thompson: Really. David Williams: the uhs Frederick Nixon: There's a guy David Williams: and Frederick Nixon: studying David Williams: the Frederick Nixon: it here, yeah, he's studying ums Fred Thompson: Filler Frederick Nixon: and Fred Thompson: words Frederick Nixon: ahs Fred Thompson: or? Frederick Nixon: or something. Jack Wagster: Yep, they're called Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: um disfluencies. Fred Thompson: Disfluencies. Frederick Nixon: That's a good word for it. Jack Wagster: Yeah we like our fancy phrases and terminologies for things. Frederick Nixon: Just add some prefixes, sounds classier. Jack Wagster: Exactly uh I will save this into the project Fred Thompson: I find Jack Wagster: documents. Fred Thompson: myself hitting the send and receive button on the email a lot, Frederick Nixon: I, David Williams: Mm. Fred Thompson: just Jack Wagster: Yeah. Frederick Nixon: yeah, Fred Thompson: out Jack Wagster: Oh Fred Thompson: of boredom, Jack Wagster: yeah. Frederick Nixon: pretty compulsively Fred Thompson: like c come on Frederick Nixon: during Jack Wagster: Yeah Frederick Nixon: meetings, Jack Wagster: I know. Frederick Nixon: like, Fred Thompson: gimme something. Frederick Nixon: yeah. Jack Wagster: Come on give Frederick Nixon some information. Well to be fair we're we're hooked we're all hooked on the internet, Frederick Nixon: Yeah, Jack Wagster: so I mean I Frederick Nixon: we Jack Wagster: do the Frederick Nixon: are addicts. David Williams: That's scary yeah? Fred Thompson: It is scary. Frederick Nixon: Mm. David Williams: Well just around that eight or or Jack Wagster: I David Williams: nine Jack Wagster: know, imagine David Williams: people Jack Wagster: we went David Williams: that Jack Wagster: the David Williams: are Jack Wagster: first ten y fifteen years of our lives without the internet. It's only in the last ten that we're like where's Frederick Nixon: Yeah. Jack Wagster: the internet? I mean, you know, it just in the past five we've gone Frederick Nixon: I yeah. Jack Wagster: from twenty eight eight modems to broadband all the time. David Williams: Dude, Frederick Nixon: True. David Williams: I think we've had internet for like eighteen years. Jack Wagster: No we have Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: but I not in the sense Frederick Nixon: yeah. Jack Wagster: that it's so un you know Fred Thompson: Yeah. Jack Wagster: uh ubiquitous Frederick Nixon: But it's not regular I mean my grandparents had it in the eighties and I got it in ninety four, but still. Fred Thompson: It's crazy. Frederick Nixon: Uh-huh. Fred Thompson: So David Williams: In the eighties? Frederick Nixon: My um grammy does computer science back in the States and so they had um an E_D_U_ and gov network. Jack Wagster: Mm. Frederick Nixon: There's basically the fundamental structures, but it wasn't uh household to household yet David Williams: Right. Frederick Nixon: because it hadn't been David Williams: Yeah, it was to the like seven Frederick Nixon: partitioned David Williams: universities Frederick Nixon: off and stuff, David Williams: or something. Frederick Nixon: yeah that was him. David Williams: You guys ready to celebrate? Jack Wagster: Yeah that's Frederick Nixon: Apparently, Jack Wagster: our last step. Frederick Nixon: does that include Jack Wagster: Celebration. Frederick Nixon: like champagne or something exciting? Fred Thompson: Should. Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: 'Kay Frederick Nixon: think Jack Wagster: I guess Frederick Nixon: so. Jack Wagster: we can probably call that meeting to an end Frederick Nixon: I Jack Wagster: for Frederick Nixon: think Jack Wagster: the most Frederick Nixon: that's Jack Wagster: part. Frederick Nixon: a closer. Jack Wagster: Cool. Fred Thompson: Has it been forty minutes or whatever? this has been long enough. David Williams: Celebrate. Jack Wagster: Where do you find that? Frederick Nixon: I have no idea. Fred Thompson: Is that the only song you have? David Williams: There is another one. Jack Wagster: Is this one of those media player? David Williams: Huh? Yep. Jack Wagster: W oh. Fred Thompson: That's awesome. Jack Wagster: The default track. Fred Thompson: Maybe I have Jack Wagster: I Fred Thompson: a Jack Wagster: thought Fred Thompson: different Jack Wagster: it was Fred Thompson: one. Jack Wagster: David Burns, look into the eyeball. That's one that seems to be shipping with it uh shipped with for a while, maybe this is the new version. Frederick Nixon: So is that a close? Jack Wagster: Yeah, I guess we'll call that Frederick Nixon: Okay, Jack Wagster: a a Frederick Nixon: that's Jack Wagster: doner. Frederick Nixon: the end of the meeting. Jack Wagster: Fab. Frederick Nixon: Thank you gentlemen. I feel like I'm signing off.

Jack Wagster opened the meeting by reviewing the decisions from the previous meeting (to use voice recognition instead of the touch screen, to hide the complicated features, and to start building the prototype). David Williams and Fred Thompson then presented the prototype that featured voice recognition, interchangeable cases, visible light, and a soft casing material. Jack Wagster presented what each component cost, which showed that the project was going over the alotted budget; the group decided to remove the solar panel. Frederick Nixon presented an evaluation of the prototype and showed that the prototype had met many of the initial goals. The group then evaluated the project process and discussed their effectiveness as a group. Jack Wagster summarized the proceedings of the meeting which will go into a final report, along with comments made during the project evaluation.

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Gary Fontaine: Okay. Hi Team. Hope you had a good. Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting. Um let's get started. 'Kay, here is the agenda for today's meeting. Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager. We're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you again. And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up. And we have forty minutes again. 'Kay, just to reiterate after meeting team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control. Okay. Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations. Who would like to go first? Chris Stephens: Just trying to move mine right now. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Um Courtney would you mind starting us Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: off? Okay. Trend watching? Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Dane Dobkins: Okay, so trend watching. Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics, it is kind of important how our product looks. So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next. So what they want. Right now customers want fancy versus functional. Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they like of the product that they want, describing like the in order of how much they want, fifty per of the decision of what it should look like, fancy versus functional, and then it has to also be technologically innovative, and yet easy to use. So the customer basically is confused. They don't know exactly what they want. They want us to tell them. Chris Stephens: They want everything, but Dane Dobkins: Yes. Chris Stephens: simply. Dane Dobkins: Exactly. Chris Stephens: Okay. Dane Dobkins: So we can go to next. Gary Fontaine: Mm 'kay. Dane Dobkins: Okay. So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing, shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns. So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year. I don't know really, I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: if we want to rather Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff, you'd want like a softer touch. I mean do you guys know what I mean. Gary Fontaine: Right. Chris Stephens: Yeah Gary Fontaine: Yes. Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: th Dane Dobkins: Um. But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns, I don't know if we really want to go with that, because it is just a trend, and Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months, Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: because Gary Fontaine: People Chris Stephens: I Gary Fontaine: don't Chris Stephens: I Gary Fontaine: buy Chris Stephens: can Gary Fontaine: a new remote Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: every Dane Dobkins: I mean Gary Fontaine: so Dane Dobkins: that could Gary Fontaine: often. Dane Dobkins: just be a Spring thing right now. Chris Stephens: I can address some of that issue, I think, with uh my presentation. Dane Dobkins: Okay. Awesome. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Dane Dobkins: Um so design preferences, um we need easy to read like large buttons, clearly labelled so that, I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem. Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch, you said that in your design, with the bulb. Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme. Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously. That's one of our key goals, we wanna promote our product. And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something. Actually right here. So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this, where we put the buttons around, like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down, and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape. 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool. So it's classically retro. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Dane Dobkins: So I mean that's just an idea if Gary Fontaine: Very Dane Dobkins: you guys Gary Fontaine: good. I like Dane Dobkins: like Gary Fontaine: it. Dane Dobkins: it. Gary Fontaine: Okay, Dane Dobkins: And, Gary Fontaine: ready for the next slide? Dane Dobkins: yep. And that's it. Gary Fontaine: Op mm 'kay. Chris Stephens: Okay. Gary Fontaine: Great. Great presentation. Ready? Billy Jory: Okay hang on. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Billy Jory: See if it's there. Gary Fontaine: Which one is it? Billy Jory: I don't know. Hang on. Interface concepts, no? Gary Fontaine: Interface concepts new. Billy Jory: Either refresh it, or it sh Oh Gary Fontaine: Y Billy Jory: wait, maybe I didn't put it there. Hang on. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Chris Stephens: Mine will always read copy of something or other. Gary Fontaine: Sorry? Chris Stephens: I I copied mine before I sent it over. Gary Fontaine: Oh okay. Billy Jory: Sorry, hang on. Don't know. Gary Fontaine: Oh there we go. Billy Jory: Okay. Billy Jory: Okay, um looking at the interface concept, it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this. Uh if you wanna start the next slide. Gary Fontaine: Sure. Billy Jory: uh can't really see there's two possible, on the r left, if you see on th on the sides of of the remote, you have the sort of scroll down, so you have that option right there. And then also there's the idea of the base. That's sort of like an idea there. And then on the right, we have what's really big trend right now, it's the iPod. It's becoming really and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons, and it's sort of like you have the both kind of trendy and hip, but also very sleek and um and very simple, but technologically advanced. So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it, but Anyway, Gary Fontaine: Mm 'kay. Billy Jory: next. Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight. You'd you know you're in the dark, you don't wanna be looking at the remote control. And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_, and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up. What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down, because the down arrow. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up. Um but then you have you could either do it by raised type, which could be you know, iffy, um sort of old-fashioned in a way. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: Either that or just have it by shape, for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow. And then the round ones you sort of feel by, you know, that's the second one down, that sort of thing. So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Billy Jory: Okay. Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic. Um this is particularly geared towards children. Dane Dobkins: That's cute. Billy Jory: Um it's very cute, and we could probably change it to yellow, bright yellow for like a the for the company logo. Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking. Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain channels that only these children would watch, so it's like they ch watch, you know, the C_ Beebies or something like that, uh keep them away from other channels. So that's like another ar Gary Fontaine: Okay. Billy Jory: Um, I mean, these are three examples sort of looking at it. You have the wider section for the main controls there. Uh you could see how many buttons there are. And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons, and a simpler design. On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that, because it's more for like a D_V_D_ function which we are not gonna be using. Um. So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_, Real Reaction. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Billy Jory: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples, but also some more, just possibilities that we could go with. None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way. Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: Hmm. Gary Fontaine: No. Billy Jory: But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying, well out of this one we like, you know the round section of um, b or we'd like the Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: the button size on this. Gary Fontaine: Or I like, you know, the black finish or the silver finish or whatever. Billy Jory: Right. Dane Dobkins: I have four of those remotes. Gary Fontaine: Good lord. Okay. Ready? Billy Jory: That's it. Gary Fontaine: Oh, yeah. Okay. Great job. Chris Stephens: Okay, my turn. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Dane Dobkins: Okay. Chris Stephens: Whoo. Gary Fontaine: What's the title? Chris Stephens: It'll be copy of component design. Gary Fontaine: Got it. Chris Stephens: Yeah. Th that looks like it. 'Kay. So basic remote runs as follows, press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit, chip senses the connection, chip produces a morse code infra-red signal, specific to that button. So you press the button, it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button. Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre, which interprets the signal response accordingly, changes channel etcetera. So that being said Next slide, please. Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction, so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed, we need rubber for buttons, aluminium for battery y contacts, integrated circuit which consists of a diode, transistor, resonator, resistors, and a capacitator, all those basic things that make a circuit function. Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself. An L_E_D_, which is a light emitting diode, um contact discs for the buttons, plastic for the casing, and a power-source, whatever power-source we've actually determined we want. Next slide, please. Thank you. Uh personal preferences, uh to save money for the components, the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse. Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips, casing, L_E_D_, any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing, we should go for it. Next slide, please. Um just talking to the um manufacturing division. They suggested power options, solar cells, hand dynamo, and kinetic power, so you shake it and it increases the power. Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works, they have yet to get back to Dane Dobkins on that. So Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Chris Stephens: next slide, please. Gary Fontaine: Interesting. Chris Stephens: Suggested casing options. Okay. We can offer options for casing such as straight, curved, double-curved, you know, very specific to the customer. Options for materials, plastic, rubber, titanium, wood. I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one, because splinters Dane Dobkins: That would be amazing, though, yeah. No, Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: splinters would Chris Stephens: Um certain restrictions do apply here though. Uh latex, you can't do solar power with a latex one. So, if they want some a soft squishy rubber, they can't have the solar powered option. Double-curved, you can't Dane Dobkins: What Chris Stephens: do titanium. Dane Dobkins: is that? Chris Stephens: Um that would be two curvatures, so it would actually, if you the shape of your hand, you curve here and you curve here, Gary Fontaine: Mm. Chris Stephens: so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold. Dane Dobkins: Mm. Chris Stephens: Now if you wanted that, you can't do titanium. And uh so you functions what for the buttons, scrolling Billy Jory: Right. Chris Stephens: function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves. I think Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Chris Stephens: I have one more slide. No, I Gary Fontaine: No, Chris Stephens: didn't. Gary Fontaine: okay. Chris Stephens: Um the manufacturing division also has said that um they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip, which we could utilise. Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip. So depends on what we decide we wanna do. In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote, we're going to have to have multiples of each type, like a double-curved in rubber, um you know, each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options. So we'll have to mix it up, make sure we produce enough of everyone. But that could also drive up the price of the Gary Fontaine: Mm. Chris Stephens: actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand, you know, double-curved Dane Dobkins: Right. Chris Stephens: wooden remotes. Dane Dobkins: Okay. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Chris Stephens: And Gary Fontaine: Okay. Chris Stephens: that's all I got. Gary Fontaine: Alright, well thank you for those informative presentations. Let's go back to um Now we have to make some decisions. Where were we? Billy Jory: Let Dane Dobkins just add one more thing that I couldn't say before, Gary Fontaine: Sure. Billy Jory: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition. Um. Dane Dobkins: Oh this the thing we were talking about earlier. Billy Jory: Right except that it's sort of odd, and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are, um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for So, you would say like, good morning, coffeemaker, and it would respond, good morning, Jill, but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work, 'cause do you programme do we program the responses and the questions. So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question, and can't change it Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: in order for it to be recognised, or can it be altered in a certain way, or does the actually user program it, to Gary Fontaine: Right. Billy Jory: say a channel means this. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, like Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: using the menu to be like, enter your name into the screen like on the menu options. So Billy Jory: Right, Dane Dobkins: that way the Billy Jory: so it's got Dane Dobkins: remote Billy Jory: like a limited Dane Dobkins: reads it. Billy Jory: memory and programme it. So it's sort of iffy, Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: I feel like voice recognition would be, I don't know, Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Dane Dobkins: w it would be too hard to really Gary Fontaine: Programme. Dane Dobkins: I mean we could do it, but Gary Fontaine: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that Dane Dobkins: Technology. Gary Fontaine: would, you know, technology Chris Stephens: Well, we are making the chip. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Chris Stephens: So, I mean But, I guess, we have to look at w what our production cost is for the chip itself Dane Dobkins: And Chris Stephens: anyway. Dane Dobkins: it is a growing trend, Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: the Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: higher technological, like the, I mean just like the more advanced it is, Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: the better it'll Chris Stephens: I Dane Dobkins: sell. Chris Stephens: I thought offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different, you know I think we'd have to decide on the power options, maybe. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Chris Stephens: So Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Chris Stephens: that Dane Dobkins: 'cause Chris Stephens: we Dane Dobkins: we Chris Stephens: could Dane Dobkins: need to Chris Stephens: reduce Dane Dobkins: know how big Chris Stephens: cost. Dane Dobkins: it's gonna be Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: and how heavy. Gary Fontaine: Okay, that kind of brings us to this, let's let's see Chris Stephens: Okay. Gary Fontaine: if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost. Um. Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier? Dane Dobkins: Oh the base, yeah. Gary Fontaine: The base, the charging base Chris Stephens: I Billy Jory: I Chris Stephens: think Billy Jory: always Chris Stephens: the Gary Fontaine: with Billy Jory: feel Chris Stephens: p Gary Fontaine: rechargeable Billy Jory: like first Gary Fontaine: batteries? Billy Jory: I wanna know what it looks like, before 'Cause Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Billy Jory: if it's something really really small, then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it, that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up Gary Fontaine: Yeah, Dane Dobkins: W Gary Fontaine: and we don't have multiple things that it has to control, it just has to control the T_V_. It's not gonna be a huge universal remote. Dane Dobkins: We Billy Jory: Right. Dane Dobkins: need to decide, well so we can figure how big it's gonna be, like Gary Fontaine: What Dane Dobkins: exactly Gary Fontaine: size battery Dane Dobkins: what Gary Fontaine: and Dane Dobkins: buttons we want and exactly Billy Jory: Well, the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons, so we want Dane Dobkins: It could Billy Jory: it to Dane Dobkins: be Billy Jory: be Dane Dobkins: like Billy Jory: bigger Dane Dobkins: this. Billy Jory: than this, Dane Dobkins: Yes. I'd, well Billy Jory: 'cause Dane Dobkins: uh Billy Jory: it still fits in your hand, so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial, but not necessarily full of buttons. Dane Dobkins: This one is really comfortable, like I like the sides whatever, Billy Jory: Are you gonna Dane Dobkins: because Billy Jory: lose it easier? Dane Dobkins: But if we have the um, the locator, then we don't have to worry about that. Chris Stephens: That's true. Dane Dobkins: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device. Chris Stephens: If Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: we do a voice-activated locator, though, we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip. So Dane Dobkins: Hmm. Billy Jory: So i That's the other thing, it's like You know Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size period? Dane Dobkins: Two double A_s, for this size. Billy Jory: But like, you know, if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be Dane Dobkins: Right. Billy Jory: have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size. Chris Stephens: Honestly, I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small, compact Gary Fontaine: Right. I agree, Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: it's Billy Jory: So Gary Fontaine: either gonna Billy Jory: we Gary Fontaine: be Billy Jory: sh Gary Fontaine: bigger with a base or smaller Dane Dobkins: Smaller, Gary Fontaine: with Dane Dobkins: without Gary Fontaine: just Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: A battery like Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: Mm Gary Fontaine: this Chris Stephens: yeah. Gary Fontaine: guy. Alright, so what direction do you want to go in? You wanna vote? Dane Dobkins: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one, I think that seems way more advanced. Gary Fontaine: I'm kind of Chris Stephens: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: I'm kind of Billy Jory: I'm Gary Fontaine: leaning in the Billy Jory: a Gary Fontaine: direction Billy Jory: away Gary Fontaine: of this Billy Jory: from Gary Fontaine: kind of Billy Jory: the base. Gary Fontaine: bigger and Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: the Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: base. Chris Stephens: 'Kay Gary Fontaine: That just Chris Stephens: so Gary Fontaine: seems so clunky and Dane Dobkins: Yeah, because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now, those trends the smaller Billy Jory: Smaller Dane Dobkins: the Billy Jory: and smaller, yeah, Dane Dobkins: hotter Billy Jory: yeah, yeah. Dane Dobkins: it is, yeah Gary Fontaine: Okay. Chris Stephens: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash. Dane Dobkins: Oh. Billy Jory: You're kidding. Chris Stephens: You know it happens. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: I've had three watches go that way too. Billy Jory: Oh watches Dane Dobkins: Ouch. Billy Jory: I've but I've never washed a cell Dane Dobkins: A phone, Billy Jory: phone. Dane Dobkins: whoa, that would wow, that would hurt. Gary Fontaine: Okay, Chris Stephens: Pieces Gary Fontaine: so Chris Stephens: everywhere. Gary Fontaine: what kind of material do we want to be made out of? Chris Stephens: Well, we have lots of options. I don't think wood is a viable Dane Dobkins: Yeah Chris Stephens: option. Dane Dobkins: wood. Gary Fontaine: No. Billy Jory: Well, titanium Gary Fontaine: Oh what did you Oh sorry, Billy Jory: s Gary Fontaine: go ahead. Billy Jory: I was saying that titanium, if we're being restricted then I would probably lean away from that. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip, titanium will be more expensive. Gary Fontaine: Right. Chris Stephens: However, Gary Fontaine: What would you recommend? Chris Stephens: well, Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro right? Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market Billy Jory: That'll Chris Stephens: then Billy Jory: Yeah, Chris Stephens: you could Billy Jory: exactly. Chris Stephens: produce a few in titanium, Gary Fontaine: Mm. Chris Stephens: make them a rarity Billy Jory: The selling Chris Stephens: so to Billy Jory: point, Dane Dobkins: We Chris Stephens: speak. Dane Dobkins: could Billy Jory: yeah. Dane Dobkins: do that, because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more Billy Jory: Are we Chris Stephens: Yeah. Billy Jory: restricted Dane Dobkins: if Billy Jory: by this? Chris Stephens: Well the Gary Fontaine: I Chris Stephens: original Billy Jory: Twenty five Gary Fontaine: I think Billy Jory: Euros Gary Fontaine: we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm Chris Stephens: Okay. Gary Fontaine: not sure that we'll have the time and money to produce a whole array of remotes. If this was a successful remote, we might then produce a higher end version of it, I think. Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: Good plan. Chris Stephens: Good plan. Gary Fontaine: Okay, so we wanna go for plastic, or what would you recommend for materials? Chris Stephens: Honestly I'd Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Chris Stephens: recommend like um uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power, I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex, because we could produce, you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour. We could Dane Dobkins: Oh. Gary Fontaine: Mm-hmm. Chris Stephens: do uh one that fits Gary Fontaine: Mm. Chris Stephens: in with the trends of the year so, because this year is all fruit, God only Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Chris Stephens: knows why, Dane Dobkins: who knows. Chris Stephens: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids, you know Gary Fontaine: Okay. Billy Jory: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come Dane Dobkins: O Billy Jory: back Dane Dobkins: or we Billy Jory: and Dane Dobkins: could Billy Jory: swap Dane Dobkins: like take Gary Fontaine: They could Billy Jory: it? Dane Dobkins: off Chris Stephens: They could Gary Fontaine: buy Chris Stephens: come Dane Dobkins: this. Chris Stephens: back. Gary Fontaine: cases, maybe, Chris Stephens: And buy the extra case. Billy Jory: Okay. Gary Fontaine: if they wanted. I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell Chris Stephens: So we could do like Gary Fontaine: options. Chris Stephens: a b a hard base plastic, and Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: then we could give Billy Jory: The Chris Stephens: two Billy Jory: what the Chris Stephens: latex Billy Jory: top face, Chris Stephens: covers Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Billy Jory: right? Gary Fontaine: Okay. Chris Stephens: to start. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, because the soft latex definitely is squishy. That's in. Well I mean squishier than like, Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: yeah, Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: just a hard plastic. Gary Fontaine: Okay, and what kind of chip would we need for this guy? Chris Stephens: How complicated Are we gonna go with the Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: voice activated Gary Fontaine: I don't think we should do voice, I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost, you know. Billy Jory: A Gary Fontaine: could we Billy Jory: tracker, yeah. Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: 'Cause that uh what it type of, yeah, like a certain term what we would say like, Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Dane Dobkins: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time. Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: So uh Chris Stephens: Well, we could give it a specific code, you know, remote missing. Dane Dobkins: Ooh. Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it, because I know that's it's definitely gonna be big, because it's, I don't know, it's Billy Jory: Well, Dane Dobkins: just so high-tech. Billy Jory: my little sister got for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring, and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work. Chris Stephens: Yeah, see that Billy Jory: And Chris Stephens: would Billy Jory: then Chris Stephens: just Billy Jory: she Chris Stephens: irritate Billy Jory: would laugh Chris Stephens: Dane Dobkins. Billy Jory: and it would start going off in her purse, and you couldn't turn it off. Gary Fontaine: Oh dear. Dane Dobkins: Oh, Billy Jory: So Dane Dobkins: then Billy Jory: it became Dane Dobkins: maybe voice Billy Jory: highly irritating. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Dane Dobkins: maybe voice Chris Stephens: So Dane Dobkins: activation Chris Stephens: I think Dane Dobkins: won't Chris Stephens: having Dane Dobkins: be good. Chris Stephens: a key-phrase is much better. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Alright. But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say, channel up, and it would work, right? Dane Dobkins: Yeah, n n no, we Billy Jory: But Dane Dobkins: just Billy Jory: then Gary Fontaine: Just Chris Stephens: No. Billy Jory: it Dane Dobkins: want it to Gary Fontaine: a Dane Dobkins: be a finder. Gary Fontaine: Okay, alright. Billy Jory: Hmm. Okay. Dane Dobkins: But do can your can the department make Chris Stephens: That would be like a mid-class um Dane Dobkins: Oh, Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: brilliant then. Chris Stephens: So we don't actually have to go for Well, if they've just developed the sample sensor, sample speaker, it's a brand new chip. Why not introduce Gary Fontaine: No. Chris Stephens: it in this way? Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Gary Fontaine: Mm 'kay. Dane Dobkins: good point. Gary Fontaine: Uh and what size batteries, double A_, triple A_? Dane Dobkins: I think triple A_, it'll be lighter. Gary Fontaine: Two? Could Dane Dobkins: I Gary Fontaine: it Dane Dobkins: mean Gary Fontaine: run Dane Dobkins: more Gary Fontaine: off of two Dane Dobkins: more Billy Jory: Well, Dane Dobkins: come Billy Jory: that Dane Dobkins: in Billy Jory: depends Dane Dobkins: a package. Billy Jory: on what the energy is needed. Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Chris Stephens: I think, well, we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium, 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products, right? So they're more widely available now. And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries. Gary Fontaine: They're more expensive though, too. Chris Stephens: But if you only have to replace it every five years. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: That's a good Gary Fontaine: Thoughts Dane Dobkins: point. Billy Jory: As Gary Fontaine: anybody? Billy Jory: long as we sell it with it. Chris Stephens: Well, how about a initial, you get one battery when you buy it, 'cause Billy Jory: Right, Chris Stephens: I'm pretty Billy Jory: that's Chris Stephens: sure Billy Jory: what Chris Stephens: we can Billy Jory: I meant. Chris Stephens: get them Dane Dobkins: We Chris Stephens: pretty Dane Dobkins: could think Chris Stephens: cheap Dane Dobkins: about Chris Stephens: on bulk. Dane Dobkins: it and Gary Fontaine: Okay. Dane Dobkins: come back to it next meeting. Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Chris Stephens: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: We still have one more meeting. Gary Fontaine: Alright. Gary Fontaine: Okay. So we've covered that first category, User Interface Concept, meaning design. Billy Jory: What's it gonna Yeah, what's it gonna look like. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Billy Jory: Um. Gary Fontaine: I ki I kind of like your idea about the retro phone dial, and that the central button could have, maybe our logo on it? It might be the four way scroll, too. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Gary Fontaine: I mean Dane Dobkins: it could Gary Fontaine: if Dane Dobkins: be whatever, Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: as long as there's something big in the middle, because like the old phones, Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: there's like that just like piece of metal Gary Fontaine: Mm-hmm. Dane Dobkins: or like Billy Jory: Well, Dane Dobkins: a picture or something in the Billy Jory: my Dane Dobkins: middle. Billy Jory: issue with that is if it got too big though, 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle, then is it gonna get wider Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: than Dane Dobkins: Oh, that's Billy Jory: your Dane Dobkins: true. Billy Jory: your hands are, because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it? Dane Dobkins: Good point. Chris Stephens: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side, Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side, Gary Fontaine: Oh, I see what Chris Stephens: that Gary Fontaine: you mean. Chris Stephens: could be particularly useful. Gary Fontaine: I think so. Dane Dobkins: So scroll buttons on the side and Gary Fontaine: Yeah, Dane Dobkins: then buttons Gary Fontaine: I like Dane Dobkins: on Gary Fontaine: that. Dane Dobkins: top? Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Dane Dobkins: But we definitely If we have scroll things on the side, we definitely have to have 'em labelled. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, like Chris Stephens: Well, Dane Dobkins: on Chris Stephens: if it's Dane Dobkins: the side Chris Stephens: just up Dane Dobkins: of Chris Stephens: and Dane Dobkins: it. Chris Stephens: down Dane Dobkins: Oh if it's just up and down. Billy Jory: But is that for Chris Stephens: Volume or channel. Billy Jory: Which? Chris Stephens: I don't know. Dane Dobkins: Well, you could do Billy Jory: Do we Dane Dobkins: some Billy Jory: have both Dane Dobkins: on both Billy Jory: sides? Dane Dobkins: sides. Gary Fontaine: Can Chris Stephens: Mm Gary Fontaine: we? Chris Stephens: yeah. We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then, Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: So that you're Chris Stephens: 'cause Gary Fontaine: just Chris Stephens: oth Gary Fontaine: not holding Chris Stephens: otherwise Dane Dobkins: That's Gary Fontaine: it and Dane Dobkins: squishy. Chris Stephens: you're Gary Fontaine: it Chris Stephens: not Gary Fontaine: changes Chris Stephens: just Gary Fontaine: the chan Chris Stephens: holding Dane Dobkins: That's Chris Stephens: it Dane Dobkins: squishy. Chris Stephens: and going like this, Billy Jory: Well, Chris Stephens: you Billy Jory: the Chris Stephens: know. Billy Jory: other option is in instead of a scroll you just have Dane Dobkins: have Billy Jory: the buttons Dane Dobkins: buttons. Billy Jory: up on the side which Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: are on the side. Chris Stephens: Okay. Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, that. Gary Fontaine: Hmm. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay any other ideas? Billy Jory: Um what colour? Gary Fontaine: Oh, yeah. Latex covers. Chris Stephens: We Gary Fontaine: W Chris Stephens: have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on, so we'll have to like have a little square or something, so that the Billy Jory: Well Chris Stephens: our logo's Billy Jory: I sort Chris Stephens: available. Billy Jory: of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that. Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Billy Jory: And that's at the bottom of it. Gary Fontaine: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though, because if people are able Billy Jory: Which Gary Fontaine: to Billy Jory: button? Gary Fontaine: change the covers, maybe the on-off button, something, some the menu button, I don't know, but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one. Are they all gonna have our company logo on them? Every cover? Chris Stephens: Yeah, I don't think we should do that, because that would just be icky. Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Chris Stephens: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea. Gary Fontaine: If we want it to be visible and Um are all those those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking? Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: But those are plastic, right? Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: They're not titanium. I kind of like that look. Uh but, or if Chris Stephens: For Gary Fontaine: it was Chris Stephens: our base Gary Fontaine: really Chris Stephens: one? Gary Fontaine: Yeah, for the base or if we're going for the retro look, I think, like a really shiny black would be cool. Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Gary Fontaine: What Dane Dobkins: or like Gary Fontaine: are your Dane Dobkins: a Gary Fontaine: thoughts? Dane Dobkins: gun-metal grey, Gary Fontaine: Gun-metal Dane Dobkins: 'cause then Gary Fontaine: gray. Dane Dobkins: it combines the silver and the black. Gary Fontaine: There you go, gun-metal gray. Billy Jory: I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button. Gary Fontaine: Why? Chris Stephens: It'll wear off. Billy Jory: What's the Dane Dobkins: Yeah, Billy Jory: button Dane Dobkins: buttons wear Billy Jory: Well, Dane Dobkins: off. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: w w then what's the button do, and how do you know that that is what the button does? I guess. Just looking at examples, y you just don't ever see the logo on a button, it's always on the actual casing. Gary Fontaine: Right. Dane Dobkins: Hmm. Chris Stephens: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front Dane Dobkins: But Gary Fontaine: On Chris Stephens: of Billy Jory: But Dane Dobkins: we Chris Stephens: the Gary Fontaine: the Dane Dobkins: want Billy Jory: you Chris Stephens: actual Billy Jory: don't Gary Fontaine: back? Dane Dobkins: it to be seen. Gary Fontaine: It d visible Billy Jory: But uh, Dane Dobkins: We Billy Jory: yeah, Dane Dobkins: need it Billy Jory: you Gary Fontaine: Visibility Dane Dobkins: to Billy Jory: don't Dane Dobkins: be seen. Billy Jory: see it. Gary Fontaine: though 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is Billy Jory: Well, Gary Fontaine: when you drop it or Billy Jory: hang Gary Fontaine: when Billy Jory: on. Gary Fontaine: you're changing the battery. Billy Jory: The other option is, I don't know if you can see it but it's like if Gary Fontaine: I can find it again. Billy Jory: Yeah, it's like the second to last slide. Gary Fontaine: Okay. And yours was called Interface Billy Jory: Interface, Gary Fontaine: Concept? Billy Jory: yeah. Gary Fontaine: This one? Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: Well, Billy Jory: Um. Gary Fontaine: for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly. Billy Jory: Okay, it's the very right one. You see at the bottom, it's kind of difficult to see, but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like, where the logo is, and if we have the replaceable section, it's like the top. It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Billy Jory: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in. Gary Fontaine: Okay, Billy Jory: If Gary Fontaine: yes Billy Jory: c you envisioning it? And so Gary Fontaine: yes. Billy Jory: that stays the same when you have the logo, and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes. Gary Fontaine: Okay. Chris Stephens: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so it actually would go over top of everything and have Billy Jory: Hmm. Chris Stephens: holes for the buttons, so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where Billy Jory: Yeah. Chris Stephens: the logo should Billy Jory: Yeah, yeah. Chris Stephens: be. Gary Fontaine: Like a little cut-out kind Chris Stephens: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: of Billy Jory: Right. That's Gary Fontaine: Okay. Billy Jory: like, you know, a a cellphone it's like the the screen Dane Dobkins: Right. Billy Jory: is always just left opened. And so, what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_? Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Dane Dobkins: Some Gary Fontaine: Anybody Dane Dobkins: of tho Gary Fontaine: see anything that they liked in Dane Dobkins: Well, Gary Fontaine: these Dane Dobkins: some Gary Fontaine: ones? Dane Dobkins: of those buttons though are blue-based. Um Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: well, a lot of those buttons are blue-based. Well, kind Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: of. Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact, Billy Jory: Yellow. Dane Dobkins: they could illuminate yellow. Gary Fontaine: Yellow, Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: I like that idea. Dane Dobkins: Like if we like the one all the way on the left, uh you ca you can see it on your computer better. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: Um where the button is actually blue, but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow. Gary Fontaine: Mm. Dane Dobkins: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch Billy Jory: Oh, Dane Dobkins: buttons. Billy Jory: that one. Gary Fontaine: I like Dane Dobkins: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: the yellow illumination idea, very good. Okay. Any other ideas or thoughts? We Billy Jory: Um. Gary Fontaine: all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna Billy Jory: Ha hang on Gary Fontaine: do with this project so Billy Jory: Let Dane Dobkins: Mm Billy Jory: Dane Dobkins Dane Dobkins: yeah. Billy Jory: catch up. Gary Fontaine: 'Kay. Billy Jory: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we just everything that we said before? Gary Fontaine: I think there will be time for that later. I'm guessing. 'Kay, well we're gonna wrap this up. Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes, and here's what we're each of us going to do. The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design, the U_I_D_ the user interface design. I think you're going to get a lot of, I mean, the final say on what buttons get put We'll all talk about it, but I think, that's pretty much what you're gonna do, right? Billy Jory: Yeah. Gary Fontaine: I guess. 'Kay. And you're gonna do some product evaluation. Okay, and right now, the I_D_ and U_I_D_, you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. Chris Stephens: Great. Billy Jory: Fun. Chris Stephens: Play Doh. Gary Fontaine: Yeah. Okay, and you should all be getting an email pretty soon. Alright. Well, Chris Stephens: Wonderful Gary Fontaine: thank you for a very productive meeting. Chris Stephens: Ooh.

Dane Dobkins presented more information on user requirements which showed that users wanted the look of a high-tech device that was still simple to use. She presented the fruit and vegetable fashion trend that the group will integrate into their design. Billy Jory presented several ideas for the interface design taken from existing product designs. Chris Stephens discussed the necessary internal components and presented options for energy sources and materials. Billy Jory also presented the sample speaker technology recently developed by the company. The group had a discussion to finalize the prototype features. It was decided that the device will be small with a locator function instead of having a charging stand. Voice recognition will not be included outside of the locator function. It will be covered by interchangeable latex casings. To incorporate the company logo and color, the buttons will be illuminated yellow when pressed and the logo will be displayed through the latex casings. Gary Fontaine instructed Billy Jory and Chris Stephens to build the prototype, with Billy Jory deciding which buttons will be included. Dane Dobkins will prepare a prototype evaluation.

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Ralph Harvey: I wanna find our if our remote works. Jeffery Hayhoe: Ralph Harvey too. Ralph Harvey: Oh. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. Ralph Harvey: Whoohoo. Jeffery Hayhoe: Um here's the agenda for our last meeting. Um after the opening we're going to have a prototype presentation, then we're going to discuss the evaluation criteria and the financing of our remote. Then we're going to evaluate the product and I think the whole production process, and then we're gonna close it up, and we have forty minutes, so let's get started. Oh, no, let's have the prototype presentation. Jacob Dunlap: Mm 'kay, you ready? Sung Wilson: Um sure. You or Ralph Harvey? Jacob Dunlap: Y you read that stuff, since Sung Wilson: Okay Jacob Dunlap: you wrote it. Sung Wilson: Well. since Jacob Dunlap: I'll Sung Wilson: our Jacob Dunlap: be the Vanna. Sung Wilson: materials aren't exactly what we were going for, I'm just gonna translate what this all means for you. The base is gonna be gunmetal gray, which is what we had decided, and it's gonna be plastic. Um then there's the latex cover, which is what you see as red. Um because it can be replaceable, we just kinda went with the colour. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Sung Wilson: Um and then the top. Um and the buttons will be a l much lighter blue, almost see-through. Jeffery Hayhoe: Hmm. Sung Wilson: It's just sort of a very pale blue and a Ralph Harvey: That's Sung Wilson: light-up Ralph Harvey: nice. Sung Wilson: yellow. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Sung Wilson: The whole thing lights up if you press any button, rather than it just that one button will light up. Ralph Harvey: Good. Sung Wilson: Um and then at the bottom we have our logo. Um bright yellow sort of design with the R_R_ which will actually look like our logo. Jeffery Hayhoe: Great. Sung Wilson: And then on the side you have the buttons. They're one button, but they kind of push up and down. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. Sung Wilson: I don't think they're scrolling. Jacob Dunlap: No. They're just buttons. Sung Wilson: Right, yeah. And then yeah, the buttons. Jacob Dunlap: On off switch will be here and as you've noticed on our prototype um they've ended up with a curvature kind of, by concave sort of thing, except for, you know, can't see underneath. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: So I'm hoping that when we get to production we can actually make them like that, because they're very nice to stock you know, stick your finger in Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: Um. Sung Wilson: Thumb-shaped. Jacob Dunlap: the two squared buttons are are two probably least used, menu, mute, and then these are the numbers, so our channel and our volume will be on either side. Sung Wilson: Yeah. And then the last thing is just that it'll be black labelling on top, just which we didn't do. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. And did you determine um the curvature of the bottom part of it for the hand, is it gonna be a single or a double? Jacob Dunlap: I'd say a single. Jeffery Hayhoe: Single. Sung Wilson: Single. Jeffery Hayhoe: Single sounds good, 'cause it's not Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: big enough to really constitute a double. Sung Wilson: Right. Jacob Dunlap: Yeah, it's only actually the size of my hand. Jeffery Hayhoe: Great. Great. I think you did an awesome job. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, I think it's a beautiful Jeffery Hayhoe: It is beautiful, and it's everything that we discussed. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Good job, you guys. Jeffery Hayhoe: Good job. Sung Wilson: Oh thank Jacob Dunlap: Whoohoo. Sung Wilson: you. Ralph Harvey: Those are really good. Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright what's next in our agenda? Um we're gonna discuss the evaluation criteria, and that's with Courtney. Ralph Harvey: Okay, it's a PowerPoint presentation. I don't really know exactly what we should uh talk about. It's under evaluation. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Ralph Harvey: Alright. Um so these are the criteria we're gonna ask, is it easy to use, is it fashionable uh I guess we should down so we can Jeffery Hayhoe: Mm. Ralph Harvey: reference them. Sung Wilson: Feel good meaning what? Ralph Harvey: Like does it feel good, Sung Wilson: Physically, Ralph Harvey: like yeah, physically. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Sung Wilson: okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: Sqi Ralph Harvey: That's just for current trend. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Ralph Harvey: It doesn't really count, you guys. Jacob Dunlap: Yeah, it was a little difficult to incorporate the cover with the cherry fruit on it. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. But it's so we do have removable covers, right? Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Jacob Dunlap: Yes. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, well then that's covered. And so Jeffery Hayhoe: 'Kay. Ralph Harvey: we n k everybody have that? Jeffery Hayhoe: I'll wait. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, she's got it. It's Sung Wilson: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: good. Yeah. Okay so, we're using the criteria uh for a seven point scale, and so we need to discuss how we feel. It falls within this range, so for easy to use, do we feel it's very easy to use? Jeffery Hayhoe: Are we Sung Wilson: True Jeffery Hayhoe: going Sung Wilson: or false, Jeffery Hayhoe: to indi Sung Wilson: easy Jeffery Hayhoe: I say Sung Wilson: to use. Jeffery Hayhoe: we individually rate what Ralph Harvey: You Jeffery Hayhoe: do you Ralph Harvey: guys Jeffery Hayhoe: say? Just Sung Wilson: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: orally. Why not? We have okay. Ralph Harvey: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: Um easy to use. I vote six. Ralph Harvey: Oh wait, that's false. Jeffery Hayhoe: Oh, two. Ralph Harvey: Okay. Jacob Dunlap: I'd say two as well. Sung Wilson: Yeah, two. Ralph Harvey: Two. Jeffery Hayhoe: Uh Ralph Harvey: That's what I say. Jeffery Hayhoe: hello, we're great. Ralph Harvey: Okay, fashionable? Jeffery Hayhoe: Um Jacob Dunlap: At the Jeffery Hayhoe: one. Jacob Dunlap: moment, no. Ralph Harvey: No. Jeffery Hayhoe: No. Ralph Harvey: I mean like no, I think it's very Jeffery Hayhoe: Ralph Harvey Ralph Harvey: fashionable. Jeffery Hayhoe: too, very chic. Ralph Harvey: I thi I would give it a one. Jacob Dunlap: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: One, I give it Jacob Dunlap: I'll Jeffery Hayhoe: a one. Jacob Dunlap: give it a two, because at the moment it's not looking that way. Ralph Harvey: Well, Jeffery Hayhoe: Oh, Ralph Harvey: that's Jeffery Hayhoe: and Ralph Harvey: that's Jeffery Hayhoe: ma it's Ralph Harvey: just Jeffery Hayhoe: a Ralph Harvey: like Jeffery Hayhoe: prototype, Ralph Harvey: that's a clay, it's Jeffery Hayhoe: right. Ralph Harvey: a prototype. What do you Sung Wilson: Mm Ralph Harvey: think? Sung Wilson: I don't think it's that fashionable. I'd give it like three or four. Jeffery Hayhoe: Well, Ralph Harvey: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: now I'm. So, the average is about a two. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, it's a two. Sung Wilson: But then I'm not Jeffery Hayhoe: Two Sung Wilson: fashionable, Jeffery Hayhoe: or three. Sung Wilson: so don't Jeffery Hayhoe: Two Sung Wilson: use Jeffery Hayhoe: point Sung Wilson: my opinion. Jeffery Hayhoe: five. Ralph Harvey: That's okay. Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: Neither Ralph Harvey: Um Jacob Dunlap: are all o all the customers we have, either. Ralph Harvey: does it feel good? Jeffery Hayhoe: Imagine, since we obviously don't Ralph Harvey: I Sung Wilson: Does Jeffery Hayhoe: have Sung Wilson: it Ralph Harvey: feel Sung Wilson: feel Jeffery Hayhoe: that. Ralph Harvey: like Sung Wilson: good? Jacob Dunlap: Uh the shape of it actually does uh. Jeffery Hayhoe: And it's i it is very ergonomically designed. It's gonna be curved. Sung Wilson: Yeah, it's gonna be thicker. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Sung Wilson: Depth. Ralph Harvey: I think it feels good. Jeffery Hayhoe: I think so too. Ralph Harvey: I'll give it a two. Jeffery Hayhoe: 'Kay. Two. Sung Wilson: I'll give it a one. Ralph Harvey: What do you say? Jacob Dunlap: I'd say a two. Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright, Ralph Harvey: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: average is two. Is it technologically innovative? Oh sorry I'm taking over your job Ralph Harvey: Oh Jeffery Hayhoe: here. Ralph Harvey: no, it's fine, you're Jeffery Hayhoe: Go right Ralph Harvey: I mean Jeffery Hayhoe: ahead. Ralph Harvey: you're Project Manager. Um yeah, I mean and it does it have voice I mean the phrase recognition on it? Jeffery Hayhoe: Yes. Right? We were able to do it with that kind of Sung Wilson: Oh right, the Jeffery Hayhoe: chip. Jacob Dunlap: We could do it with the chip, yes. It wasn't we have no Ralph Harvey: And Jacob Dunlap: reflection Ralph Harvey: there's no way you can Jacob Dunlap: of Ralph Harvey: represent Jacob Dunlap: it on the Ralph Harvey: it on Jacob Dunlap: prototype, Ralph Harvey: here. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah, Jacob Dunlap: but that's Jeffery Hayhoe: right. Jacob Dunlap: because Ralph Harvey: Y Jacob Dunlap: it's Jeffery Hayhoe: That Jacob Dunlap: only Jeffery Hayhoe: was Jacob Dunlap: two dimensions, Jeffery Hayhoe: 'kay. Jacob Dunlap: really. Jeffery Hayhoe: And we discussed that Ralph Harvey: Yeah, Sung Wilson: Right. Jeffery Hayhoe: being Ralph Harvey: so. Jeffery Hayhoe: included. Ralph Harvey: Then yes, then I would well it isn't what else would it need Jacob Dunlap: It Ralph Harvey: for it to be technologically innovative? Jeffery Hayhoe: Well we don' have the you know, we can't say channel, and it changes the channel, Ralph Harvey: And Jeffery Hayhoe: channel Ralph Harvey: it doesn't Jeffery Hayhoe: eight. Ralph Harvey: cover anything other then T_V_, so Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Ralph Harvey: I'd probably give it a three. Jacob Dunlap: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. Ralph Harvey: Even though it is for just a T_V_ remote it's uh very advanced. But it is just a T_V_ remote. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. I'd go for a three or four on that one, so Sung Wilson: Yeah I go four. Jeffery Hayhoe: okay, let's go for a three point five. Jacob Dunlap: Three and an half. Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright, and the last criteria is it is it um Sung Wilson: Squishy and fruity. Jeffery Hayhoe: Well, Ralph Harvey: Well Jeffery Hayhoe: we've covered that with Sung Wilson: It's Jeffery Hayhoe: the Sung Wilson: just trendy, basically. Jeffery Hayhoe: trendy. Ralph Harvey: yeah, so I'd give it a two. Jacob Dunlap: It's Jeffery Hayhoe: Sure. Jacob Dunlap: capable of being Jeffery Hayhoe: Capable. Jacob Dunlap: squishy Ralph Harvey: Oh, it's very Jacob Dunlap: and Ralph Harvey: capable Jeffery Hayhoe: Very Jacob Dunlap: fruity. Jeffery Hayhoe: capable. Ralph Harvey: of being squishy and fruity. Sung Wilson: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: And it's very important. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: 'Kay, there we go. Ralph Harvey: Okay, Jeffery Hayhoe: So. Ralph Harvey: next. Jeffery Hayhoe: Next. Ralph Harvey: So um our re model slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie appears to be a winner, and uh hopefully we'll sell millions. Good job, team. Jacob Dunlap: How did you get that in there? Ralph Harvey: What? Jacob Dunlap: The slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie. Ralph Harvey: It it does. Jeffery Hayhoe: It does. Jacob Dunlap: That was good. Ralph Harvey: Thanks. Jeffery Hayhoe: Very good. Alright, let's go back to this No, that's it. Hmm. Oops. Okay, so now uh we're moving on to finance, okay. I'm gonna show you an Excel spreadsheet and we're going to fill it in together based on what components we're including in our remote and see if it's under twelve fifty Euro. If so, we can proceed, if not, we need to go back to the drawing board a little bit. 'Kay? So let Ralph Harvey bring that up. Here we go. Alright. Um it's not hand dynamo, it's powered by battery, Jacob Dunlap: Yep. Jeffery Hayhoe: so we give it a Ralph Harvey: Two. Jeffery Hayhoe: Number of components you plan to use. Do I just put quantity being one battery, or Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: Mm 'kay. Jeffery Hayhoe: But if it's a do you wanna go for this is where we need to make a final call on if it's a lithium or do we wanna go triple A_s, 'cause triple A_s we're gonna have t do more than one battery. Oh, let's just go for a lithium. What do you say? Ralph Harvey: Yeah, let's Jacob Dunlap: Yeah, Ralph Harvey: let's do a lithium. Jeffery Hayhoe: I think Jacob Dunlap: it's. Jeffery Hayhoe: uh I think Ralph Harvey: We're gon Jeffery Hayhoe: the people Ralph Harvey: that's gon Jeffery Hayhoe: who purchase this are gonna be technologically Ralph Harvey: Nologically advanced, Jeffery Hayhoe: right. Ralph Harvey: yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay, down to the electronics um section. We're gonna need this kind, correct, Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: if we do Jacob Dunlap: Yep. Jeffery Hayhoe: the voice sensor, so one of those. It is a single-curved, so one of those. Ralph Harvey: Uh. Jeffery Hayhoe: Oh. What's that? Yeah, that's Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: correct. 'Kay, down here, Sung Wilson: It's Jeffery Hayhoe: case Ralph Harvey: We Sung Wilson: plastic. Jeffery Hayhoe: material. Ralph Harvey: plastic. Jeffery Hayhoe: Plastic. Ralph Harvey: And Sung Wilson: And Ralph Harvey: special Sung Wilson: special Ralph Harvey: colour. Sung Wilson: colour. Jeffery Hayhoe: 'Kay. Down here, interface type. We're gonna have the integrated scroll scroll Sung Wilson: No, we Jeffery Hayhoe: wheel. Sung Wilson: don't have the scroll. Jeffery Hayhoe: Isn't oh those are just regular Ralph Harvey: But Jeffery Hayhoe: buttons. Ralph Harvey: it's Jacob Dunlap: Well, Sung Wilson: Buttons. Jacob Dunlap: that's the push-button too, right there. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, but i Jeffery Hayhoe: This? Ralph Harvey: so Jacob Dunlap: Integrated Ralph Harvey: i Jacob Dunlap: scroll-wheel or push-button. We're really having just push-button interface. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay, so we can just go um. Ralph Harvey: But will we w actually we'll need two, won't we? One for the top and then one for the s one e for each side. Jacob Dunlap: But it that just covers the type of button we're having. Because we're not doing a scroll on the side, it's still push-button. Sung Wilson: Oh like the twenty nine means like you have both scrolls and Jacob Dunlap: Push-button. Sung Wilson: push-buttons. Ralph Harvey: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right Jacob Dunlap: But we just Jeffery Hayhoe: I Sung Wilson: But Jeffery Hayhoe: think Sung Wilson: we Jacob Dunlap: have Sung Wilson: don't Jeffery Hayhoe: she's Sung Wilson: have Jacob Dunlap: push Sung Wilson: any scrolls. Jeffery Hayhoe: I think what Courtney's talking about is do we need to put two Ralph Harvey: Like Jeffery Hayhoe: here? Ralph Harvey: because there's like one interface right here and then because it's not gonna be on the same plane when you press the button. There's Jeffery Hayhoe: Right. Ralph Harvey: gonna have to be Jacob Dunlap: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: additional signals on the sides. So Jacob Dunlap: Okay. Ralph Harvey: is that gonna be an extra one on each side? Jeffery Hayhoe: I don't know, they might put us well, let's Sung Wilson: Two interfaces, Jeffery Hayhoe: just. Sung Wilson: is that what w should we Jacob Dunlap: Let's Jeffery Hayhoe: Two Sung Wilson: s Jacob Dunlap: call Sung Wilson: say? Jeffery Hayhoe: or Jacob Dunlap: it th Jeffery Hayhoe: would Ralph Harvey: Or Jeffery Hayhoe: it Ralph Harvey: three, Jeffery Hayhoe: be three? Ralph Harvey: because of one on each side and Sung Wilson: Okay, Ralph Harvey: one on Sung Wilson: fine. Ralph Harvey: top. Sung Wilson: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: I mean it's fine 'cause it comes out the same as twenty nine. Well less than twenty nine even. Jacob Dunlap: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay and we're gonna button supplements the buttons are no Ralph Harvey: They're Jeffery Hayhoe: uh Ralph Harvey: a special colour. Jeffery Hayhoe: okay. Ralph Harvey: Um they're uh they're a special form, 'cause Jeffery Hayhoe: Are Ralph Harvey: they're Jeffery Hayhoe: they? Ralph Harvey: indented. Jeffery Hayhoe: Oh, right. Sung Wilson: And Ralph Harvey: And, Sung Wilson: then Ralph Harvey: they're Sung Wilson: s Ralph Harvey: a special material. Sung Wilson: yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Mm. Well, we're under cost then. Alright. Sung Wilson: We're over? Jeffery Hayhoe: No, Jacob Dunlap: Grand. Ralph Harvey: We're Jeffery Hayhoe: we're Ralph Harvey: under. Jeffery Hayhoe: under. Twelve Sung Wilson: Okay. Jeffery Hayhoe: point five is our limit. Sung Wilson: Oh, Jeffery Hayhoe: We've Sung Wilson: I see. Jeffery Hayhoe: got eleven point two. Jacob Dunlap: So Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright. Jacob Dunlap: we can go to production. Jeffery Hayhoe: We can go to Jeffery Hayhoe: I dunno what I just did. Okay. Now we're gonna talk about the project process um and whether or not we're satisfied with the whole process and the result. Um did we have a lot of room for creativity? Did we have a lot of room for individual leadership, um teamwork, and the means, meaning the technology that we used to produce our little guy there, we found any new ideas. Now, question is, how do we do this? Jacob Dunlap: Go back. Ralph Harvey: I think we just discuss it. Jeffery Hayhoe: Discuss, Jacob Dunlap: Previous. Jeffery Hayhoe: sure. Alright. Who want who would like to go first? Jacob Dunlap: We think Sung Wilson: We didn't Jacob Dunlap: we got Sung Wilson: have Jacob Dunlap: stifled Sung Wilson: a whiteboard. Jacob Dunlap: for cri creativity by the company itself, in restricting us only to using a T_V_ remote, Jeffery Hayhoe: Hmm. Jacob Dunlap: initially. Sung Wilson: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: Oh Jeffery Hayhoe: Hmm. Ralph Harvey: that's true. Sung Wilson: And no internet. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. No, yeah, that's a good point. 'Cause I'd forgotten that that wasn't our decision, yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: And how did you feel about the whole the whole process though? Ralph Harvey: Oh, overall I mean I thought we did a good job like We got to choose basically we had control over minus it being just merely a T_V_ remote we got to choose what we wanted to do with it. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right, and we got say over what how technologically advanced it should be and also how fashionable, which I kind of Ralph Harvey: And we're a fashion forward Jeffery Hayhoe: like Ralph Harvey: technology Jeffery Hayhoe: we Ralph Harvey: company. Jeffery Hayhoe: yep. You Jacob Dunlap: right. Jeffery Hayhoe: know it. Um what about um the teamwork aspect? How did you guys enjoy making the model, the prototype? Sung Wilson: I think we did well. Jacob Dunlap: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: I think ya' did. Did you work well together in there, and Sung Wilson: Yep. Jacob Dunlap: Well, Jeffery Hayhoe: 'kay. Jacob Dunlap: no, there Ralph Harvey: Minus Jacob Dunlap: was Ralph Harvey: that one Jacob Dunlap: there Ralph Harvey: fight. Jacob Dunlap: was scratching and fighting, Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: but Jeffery Hayhoe: Oh my Jacob Dunlap: no. Jeffery Hayhoe: God, Sung Wilson: Gouges. Jeffery Hayhoe: and we've all been a pretty congenial team here, I think. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: We hadn't Ralph Harvey: I Jeffery Hayhoe: had any ma Ralph Harvey: mean Jeffery Hayhoe: fallings Ralph Harvey: minus you Jeffery Hayhoe: out. Ralph Harvey: guys being wha what is it, the survey, annoying or Jacob Dunlap: Irritating. Ralph Harvey: what is it? Jeffery Hayhoe: Irritating. Ralph Harvey: Irritating, Sung Wilson: Irritating. Ralph Harvey: yeah. Wow that's a it's definitely a strong one. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. Jacob Dunlap: The means, the whiteboard didn't work. Sung Wilson: And Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Sung Wilson: no internet. Jeffery Hayhoe: I have to knock that one down a couple Ralph Harvey: Yeah, Jeffery Hayhoe: notches. Ralph Harvey: and no internet. Jacob Dunlap: A and our friend here really feels Sung Wilson: Misses. Jacob Dunlap: strongly about the internet. Sung Wilson: I do. Ralph Harvey: And the digital Sung Wilson: There's so much available. Ralph Harvey: the Sung Wilson: Like Ralph Harvey: digital Sung Wilson: it's information Ralph Harvey: pens Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah, digital pens. Ralph Harvey: were they Jacob Dunlap: I Ralph Harvey: were pretty Jacob Dunlap: really Ralph Harvey: cool. Jacob Dunlap: appreciated Jeffery Hayhoe: They were fine. Jacob Dunlap: those, yeah. Ralph Harvey: Yeah they were fun, even though I'm not really sure what I could do with them, but they are awesome. Jacob Dunlap: The use of the laptops for receiving everything. It Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Right, Jacob Dunlap: was Jeffery Hayhoe: laptops are Jacob Dunlap: wireless Jeffery Hayhoe: extremely handy, Jacob Dunlap: too, so. Jeffery Hayhoe: wireless. Ralph Harvey: And these things Jeffery Hayhoe: And Ralph Harvey: whoa. Jeffery Hayhoe: that we have a shared network where we can put all of the Sung Wilson: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: And let's not forget the sexy dual microphones everyone gets Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: to wear. Ralph Harvey: And Big Brother. Jeffery Hayhoe: Big brother. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: 'Kay, have we found any new ideas through this process? Ralph Harvey: Um we are really gonna sell this. Ta-da. Jeffery Hayhoe: For something that looks cool and also has what I want it to b do technologically. Sung Wilson: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: And that's your right brain taking over, w wanting the artistic, the fashionable, the hip, Ralph Harvey: Mm-hmm. Jeffery Hayhoe: you know. If we all just went out and bought useful things, I don't think I mean that's not Sung Wilson: Well, Jeffery Hayhoe: what Sung Wilson: that's Jeffery Hayhoe: technology. Sung Wilson: why I don't like uh Macs or Apples, just 'cause I look at it, and I know it's probably a very good computer, but I look at it, and I'm taken back to elementary school, 'cause they look the same. Jeffery Hayhoe: Mm. Sung Wilson: They Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Sung Wilson: look like they did when I was in elementary school, Ralph Harvey: Yeah, Sung Wilson: and Ralph Harvey: 'cause Sung Wilson: that's Ralph Harvey: they're Sung Wilson: so old-fashioned Ralph Harvey: pretty and Sung Wilson: to Ralph Harvey: just Sung Wilson: Ralph Harvey. Ralph Harvey: like Jacob Dunlap: The Toronto Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Jacob Dunlap: district school would only use his Macs with their kids. Sung Wilson: Exactly, so I associate them with like really low-tech, Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Sung Wilson: really cheap, Jeffery Hayhoe: Just the Mac Sung Wilson: bad Jeffery Hayhoe: font bothers Ralph Harvey: Uh yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Ralph Harvey Sung Wilson: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: even. But I do like iPods, go figure. Ralph Harvey: Yeah, no, iPods They want all those words for Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: presentation, Jacob Dunlap: Well, Ralph Harvey: even Jacob Dunlap: i Ralph Harvey: the Jacob Dunlap: iPods Ralph Harvey: plugs. Jacob Dunlap: are now quite trendy, and Jeffery Hayhoe: Mm-hmm. Jacob Dunlap: they come in different colours. Jeffery Hayhoe: Colours. Exactly. Jacob Dunlap: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: I mean how many people went out and bough a Nokia phone, back when we were like in high school, just so they could get the changeable face Ralph Harvey: Oh Jeffery Hayhoe: plates. Ralph Harvey: yeah, everybody. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay. Anyway, Jacob Dunlap: Not Ralph Harvey. Jeffery Hayhoe: so Ralph Harvey: Mine Jeffery Hayhoe: that Ralph Harvey: is Sung Wilson: But the Jeffery Hayhoe: is Jacob Dunlap: I Sung Wilson: my Jacob Dunlap: didn't Jeffery Hayhoe: definitely Ralph Harvey: amber. Jacob Dunlap: have a phone Jeffery Hayhoe: at work. Jacob Dunlap: 'til university. Sung Wilson: but my Ralph Harvey: Oh. Sung Wilson: one issue is just like the whole it's for T_V_ only. I was like who's gonna buy a remote just for the T_V_ unless they've lost theirs. Ralph Harvey: Look at Jeffery Hayhoe: Yeah. Ralph Harvey: it. That is a piece Jeffery Hayhoe: Fashionable Sung Wilson: You're kidding. Ralph Harvey: of Jeffery Hayhoe: chic Ralph Harvey: work. Jeffery Hayhoe: people Ralph Harvey: Wow. Jeffery Hayhoe: will. Sung Wilson: No, Ralph Harvey: Marketing Director says yeah. Fashionable Sung Wilson: no. Ralph Harvey: people Sung Wilson: No, marketing Ralph Harvey: will buy Sung Wilson: has Ralph Harvey: it. Sung Wilson: to actually create the desire for it. Ralph Harvey: Oh, I will create Jacob Dunlap: That's okay. Ralph Harvey: desire. Jacob Dunlap: We can create a commercial where they think that all their needs will be met. This Sung Wilson: Ri Jacob Dunlap: will help them find Jeffery Hayhoe: Hmm. Jacob Dunlap: the one. Sung Wilson: They'll be sexy with it. Jacob Dunlap: That's right. Ralph Harvey: that's the fig-leaf. Sung Wilson: Oh right. Ralph Harvey: Mm. That'll sell. Jeffery Hayhoe: There you Sung Wilson: Let Jeffery Hayhoe: go, Sung Wilson: you Jacob Dunlap: And Jeffery Hayhoe: marketing. Sung Wilson: loose. Jacob Dunlap: so the serpent says, use our remote. Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright. Sung Wilson: Yeah, Ralph Harvey: Yeah. Sung Wilson: no. Jeffery Hayhoe: Okay, we're gonna wrap this up now. Um the costs are within the budget, we evaluated the project, and now we're gonna complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary, and then we're going to have a big giant party, apparently, according to this, so. Jacob Dunlap: Whoohoo. Jeffery Hayhoe: Alright, thank you team, Jacob Dunlap: Margaritas Jeffery Hayhoe: you did a great Jacob Dunlap: for everyone. Jeffery Hayhoe: job, it was lovely working with you. Sung Wilson: Good. Ralph Harvey: You too. Jacob Dunlap: Yay. Thanks to the Project Leader. Now we know w

Sung Wilson and Jacob Dunlap presented the prototype and displayed its gunmetal color, removable casing, buttons, logo, and ergonomic design. Ralph Harvey gave an evaluation of the prototype using the group's initial criteria for the remote. The group decided that enough of their initial ideas and criteria for the remote were satisfied to be able to continue with the project. Jeffery Hayhoe analyzed the final production cost; the cost was lower than initially projected, at 11.2 Euros. The group decided to use one lithium battery instead of several triple A alkaline batteries. Jeffery Hayhoe then led a discussion on the project process. The group felt that they worked well together and were pleased with the prototype. They complained, though, that they felt constrained by the management's directives, that they had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment, and that they did not have internet access during the project. All participants were instructed to fill out a final questionnaire.

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Brandon Boggs: Here we go. Welcome everybody. Um, I'm Abigail Claflin. You can call Frankie Green Abbie. 'S see. PowerPoint, that's not it. There we go. So this is our kick off meeting. Um and I guess we should all get acquainted. Let's shall we all introduce ourselves? Frankie Green: Hi I'm Chiara, I'm the um Marketing Expert Um. would you like Frankie Green to talk about my aims at the moment, or would you like Frankie Green to just say my name and then we can talk about business Brandon Boggs: I think Frankie Green: later? Brandon Boggs: we'll get around to that, yeah. Frankie Green: We'll Brandon Boggs: So Frankie Green: get Brandon Boggs: this Frankie Green: round Brandon Boggs: is Frankie Green: to Brandon Boggs: just Frankie Green: that later. Brandon Boggs: introductions Frankie Green: My Brandon Boggs: yeah. Frankie Green: name is Chiara and I'm Frankie Green. Brandon Boggs: Okay. I forgot to s say I'm Brandon Boggs but I figured you all knew that already, um so. Ronald Arbogast: I'm Stephanie I am Ronald Arbogast. Steve Perrucci: I'm Krista and I'm Steve Perrucci. Brandon Boggs: Okay. Um so f here's our agenda for today. Um we're gonna do some tool training, project plan and discuss then close. Um so. So our aim is to produce a remote control that is original, trendy and user friendly. And to do this, we have to um there's certain things we have to consider about functional aspects and conceptual design of the thing. So. We'll get to that. Oh there it is. Right. Functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. So throughout our next couple of meetings we'll we'll be covering these things. Um so we're gonna try out our white board. If we'll all draw our favourite animal, to sum up the characteristics of that animal. Ronald Arbogast: So Brandon Boggs: Okay. Ronald Arbogast: you want us to draw it and then talk about it? Or just draw it? Frankie Green: I think both. Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: Okay. Why don't Brandon Boggs: Both. Ronald Arbogast: we do both. Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: Who starts? Ronald Arbogast: Right. Frankie Green: We ought to decide who starts and all that. No? Brandon Boggs: Any Frankie Green: Uh-huh. Brandon Boggs: volunteers? Does anyone know what they wanna draw? Ronald Arbogast: Mm, I gotta think about it for a second like. Uh Does it have to be functional, trendy and user friendly? Brandon Boggs: I don't think so. Ronald Arbogast: Um. Okay, I'll draw. I'll draw one. Make sure my things here. Ronald Arbogast: Uh-oh. Ronald Arbogast: Right. Ronald Arbogast: Okay, my favourite animal is see. Ronald Arbogast: Oops. Brandon Boggs: A dolphin. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, it's Brandon Boggs: 'S like playing Pictionary. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, I guess it has a fin on top too, yeah. Ronald Arbogast: It's my dolphin. Brandon Boggs: So what characteristics do you like about your animal? Ronald Arbogast: I like its tail. Um, no, I think dolphins are really uh I dunno, they're smart and they they're cute and they like swimming and that's cool, like Brandon Boggs: They're graceful. Ronald Arbogast: they're graceful yeah, and they're so Brandon Boggs: Sleek. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah they're sleek and they look intelligent and I don't know, they're I guess it's the whole like binocular Brandon Boggs: I don't know how Ronald Arbogast: vision Brandon Boggs: intelligent Ronald Arbogast: thing. Brandon Boggs: that one looks. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah he he doesn't look that smart. He's a I dunno um they're I think it's cool the the um the interaction that or the th things that the reasons people seem to like you know you get ex you know people are sitting on the beach and p they're like oh look there's dolphins and it's kinda like but they're you know they jump around in the water and they're happy and they're mammals, but they Brandon Boggs: Yes. Does Ronald Arbogast: swim. Brandon Boggs: anybody else wanna draw their animal? Steve Perrucci: Suppose I can draw an animal, yeah. Brandon Boggs: Uh-oh there goes the ten. It's a cat. Steve Perrucci: Yeah. I don't know. They sleep all day, they're easy to draw. Brandon Boggs: Do you wanna Frankie Green: Uh yeah. Brandon Boggs: anything? I dunno Frankie Green: Well Brandon Boggs: if Frankie Green: I Brandon Boggs: the Frankie Green: had Steve Perrucci: I think the pen is Brandon Boggs: the Steve Perrucci: running out of Brandon Boggs: ah. Frankie Green: spare one. So I'll use the spare one. Um but it's harder to draw Ronald Arbogast: And Frankie Green: um. Ronald Arbogast: the pen's dying. Frankie Green: Um. Brandon Boggs: A Frankie Green: Uh. Brandon Boggs: horse. Ronald Arbogast: Horse. Frankie Green: Um I don't really know Brandon Boggs: That's Frankie Green: how Brandon Boggs: very Frankie Green: the legs Brandon Boggs: good. Frankie Green: go, but anyway I will do that. Um, and the main reason is they're pretty. I think they're very pretty and they go well with the environment, and I like the way they run and I used to do horse riding and they're just very sort of sturdy and nice animals. And I like the way um they feel, sort of under under the hand, I think that's pretty much it. Um Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: This cord's Brandon Boggs: Uh. Right. Actually I haven't thought of anything yet. Uh Brandon Boggs: It's a pig. So I'm thinking we should design a remote control that's water resistant, strong and furry. What do you think, yeah? Ronald Arbogast: And furry. Brandon Boggs: This is yeah, well like a cat, you know, Ronald Arbogast: Textile Brandon Boggs: soft yeah. Ronald Arbogast: tactile, tactile remote Brandon Boggs: Although Ronald Arbogast: control. Brandon Boggs: uh I'll just put there. Right. Ronald Arbogast: You're dragging a you have a tail. Brandon Boggs: Oh my gosh, this is disastrous. Sorry about that. Okay. So moving on. Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro. So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland, we're in some European country. Um, and we will hope to sell this internationally. Ronald Arbogast: Sorry can you just say that what's the what are our price goals again? Brandon Boggs: Um selling price is twenty five Euro. Ronald Arbogast: Okay. Brandon Boggs: Profit aim fifty million Euro. Frankie Green: How many should we sell then? Um, a lot, Brandon Boggs: Anyone Frankie Green: two Brandon Boggs: a mathematician? Frankie Green: two two million, two mi no, more f four million. Steve Perrucci: Two million. Frankie Green: Four million. And it well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve Steve Perrucci: Oh, Frankie Green: fifty, Steve Perrucci: yeah. Frankie Green: that'll do four million. Frankie Green: It is a lot. Uh. Brandon Boggs: So f that's a fifty percent um uh. Um, I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show. Experience with remote control. So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient, practical, nice remote control. Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons Frankie Green: Um, Brandon Boggs: it should have. Frankie Green: I think one thing is that it should be easy to find Ronald Arbogast: I was Frankie Green: bec Ronald Arbogast: thinking that too. Frankie Green: yeah Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: I Frankie Green: bec Ronald Arbogast: think we should design something that has like a so you can like somehow like you I mean you always know where your T_V_ is, so just have a call button, I've always wanted that, Frankie Green: Yeah, Ronald Arbogast: so Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: yeah Ronald Arbogast: like Frankie Green: yeah Ronald Arbogast: you Frankie Green: yeah Ronald Arbogast: can push Frankie Green: yeah. Ronald Arbogast: a button Brandon Boggs: I mean Ronald Arbogast: on your Brandon Boggs: you have Ronald Arbogast: T_V_ Brandon Boggs: it for the portable Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, Brandon Boggs: phone, so Ronald Arbogast: yeah Brandon Boggs: why not Ronald Arbogast: yeah Brandon Boggs: yeah. Ronald Arbogast: yeah, so you should have a call button on your television to Frankie Green: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: be able to find your remote control. Frankie Green: And even I think a little light. Um or even a maybe a vib a vibrating thing. I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: In which case Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound I don't know Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: if it's expensive maybe to Ronald Arbogast: I don't yeah I mean it Frankie Green: Maybe call is enough. But yeah. Ronald Arbogast: but like I mean just I mean like your phone even just has so Frankie Green: Yeah Ronald Arbogast: like Frankie Green: yeah Ronald Arbogast: it Frankie Green: yeah. Ronald Arbogast: can vibrate, it can light up and make Frankie Green: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: noise and I dunno. Brandon Boggs: What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: You know like a portable Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, Brandon Boggs: phone Ronald Arbogast: or if it Brandon Boggs: has Ronald Arbogast: had a Brandon Boggs: a base, Ronald Arbogast: yeah. Brandon Boggs: like just to have a home for it. Frankie Green: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, I mean Brandon Boggs: 'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_, but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_, Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: so Steve Perrucci: Well that's why it's always in the couch. Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, in in the couch. I dunno, it seems like though that that would be hard, 'cause Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: you not you're not gonna be lazy Brandon Boggs: Maybe Ronald Arbogast: anyway Brandon Boggs: we should Ronald Arbogast: and Brandon Boggs: design couches that have the remote control Ronald Arbogast: Yeah Brandon Boggs: in Ronald Arbogast: so we Brandon Boggs: the side Ronald Arbogast: the project Brandon Boggs: arm. Ronald Arbogast: is now couches and Frankie Green: But Ronald Arbogast: remote Frankie Green: even Ronald Arbogast: controls. Frankie Green: just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing, a pretty object attached to the wall. But that would really Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: make it more expensive. But it's only a plastic thing, r Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: really, Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: the thing on the wall. Something like that. And the other Brandon Boggs: Do you Frankie Green: thing Brandon Boggs: think it Frankie Green: is Brandon Boggs: needs to be bigger to not lose, or does that Ronald Arbogast: Bigger. Brandon Boggs: not factor Frankie Green: Not Brandon Boggs: in? Frankie Green: well it needs Brandon Boggs: Like Frankie Green: to be sort of Brandon Boggs: Hand Ronald Arbogast: Hand-sized. Brandon Boggs: hand held Frankie Green: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: size, yeah. Frankie Green: I don't think you need a Brandon Boggs: Not not huge, but Frankie Green: But definitely not well I don't know. Ronald Arbogast: It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it. Frankie Green: No, it can't be, Steve Perrucci: No it really Ronald Arbogast: Or Frankie Green: uh-uh. Ronald Arbogast: like Steve Perrucci: wouldn't Brandon Boggs: Huh. Steve Perrucci: be. Ronald Arbogast: or like a light thing. You know. I dunno. Frankie Green: Like spaceship. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: Right. Um Ronald Arbogast: Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah. That would be really I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Brandon Boggs: Little Ronald Arbogast: Euros Brandon Boggs: homing Ronald Arbogast: a pop. Brandon Boggs: device. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Uh. Brandon Boggs: Um. Okay. So what do we think this remote control should Five minutes. Frankie Green: Oh dear. Brandon Boggs: Till the meeting oh right. This is what we have left. Ronald Arbogast: I also Brandon Boggs: Um, Ronald Arbogast: think though that Brandon Boggs: oh Ronald Arbogast: it shouldn't Brandon Boggs: we just Ronald Arbogast: have too many buttons, 'cause I hate Steve Perrucci: Yeah, Ronald Arbogast: that Steve Perrucci: I Ronald Arbogast: when Steve Perrucci: agree. Ronald Arbogast: they have too many buttons and Frankie Green: Yeah, Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Steve Perrucci: button Frankie Green: yeah yeah. Steve Perrucci: and the Ronald Arbogast: I Steve Perrucci: F_ Ronald Arbogast: mean I know Steve Perrucci: button, Ronald Arbogast: it has Steve Perrucci: they Ronald Arbogast: to Steve Perrucci: don't Ronald Arbogast: have Steve Perrucci: do Ronald Arbogast: enough Steve Perrucci: anything. Ronald Arbogast: functions but like, I don't know you, just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like, no, you never use half of them. Brandon Boggs: You Ronald Arbogast: So. Brandon Boggs: what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen, so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions. Ronald Arbogast: That would be cool. Brandon Boggs: Like the Frankie Green: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: way a mobile phone does. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. I mean it just seems like Brandon Boggs: So you could like Ronald Arbogast: yeah. Brandon Boggs: um like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels, you can the way you do it on your radio is that you uh what do you call Frankie Green: Select. Brandon Boggs: it s y yeah but you Frankie Green: Uh. Brandon Boggs: can programme, so you can programme like your favourite channels, so like if you had a s Frankie Green: But, would you have the screen on the thing, or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen. Brandon Boggs: That's something we could decide. Ronald Arbogast: I Frankie Green: Because Ronald Arbogast: guess Brandon Boggs: Mm. Ronald Arbogast: they would go together somehow? I dunno. Frankie Green: Because, I don't know if it's I think it's e expensive, if you have if you use the telly screen, 'cause the telly's Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: already a screen, then you can pro sort of have a programming function, really easy sort of arrow up and down, on Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: the remote, and then use the telly as a screen. Brandon Boggs: Right. Frankie Green: But um Ronald Arbogast: I'm thinking Frankie Green: But Ronald Arbogast: kind Frankie Green: yeah for Ronald Arbogast: of Frankie Green: sure. Something like not it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do, Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: is that what you mean? Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: Right. Mm. Ronald Arbogast: Or like you h you see those you know people I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those these things that at their house you know their their entire house is so electronic, and they have like this one master control that and it's like a hand held like turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen, I don't know Frankie Green: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: if it must be it would probably must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno. Frankie Green: But like Brandon Boggs: Mm. Frankie Green: mobile phones have screens Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, Frankie Green: and they're cheap. Ronald Arbogast: yeah. Yeah Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Ronald Arbogast: that's true. Brandon Boggs: I mean, we have to remember our budget is twelve point Frankie Green: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: twelve fifty for to actually make the device. Ronald Arbogast: Mm. Brandon Boggs: Um Ronald Arbogast: Well, I guess Brandon Boggs: but it's Ronald Arbogast: we have Brandon Boggs: something Ronald Arbogast: to get to Brandon Boggs: to Ronald Arbogast: that Brandon Boggs: think Ronald Arbogast: later, Brandon Boggs: about, yeah. Ronald Arbogast: yeah. Brandon Boggs: I mean we'll have to see how much that would be. Frankie Green: Or some it i we can find out probably on the Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: internet how much it's Um. Yeah, and the other thing you said that thing about robust and water um What was the word? Ronald Arbogast: Furry. Frankie Green: Water resistant. No but it's I thought, ah, Brandon Boggs: was Frankie Green: spot on. Brandon Boggs: just Frankie Green: Good feel, tact tactile, Brandon Boggs: Yeah. Frankie Green: good tactile feel, maybe something didn doesn't make your hands sweat lot. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Mm, mm. Frankie Green: That's quite annoying. Brandon Boggs: Maybe um just like a simple thing to have a clip on it, like so you can clip it to your Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Brandon Boggs: like that's another Frankie Green: Yeah, clip. Ooh. Um. Brandon Boggs: Um. We should probably start wrapping up, um we've got some initial ideas that we can all look into. Um, and come up with some new ones for the next meeting, which will be in another thirty minutes. Um. So. Yeah. Steve Perrucci, what does that stand Steve Perrucci: Yeah Brandon Boggs: for, Steve Perrucci: I think Brandon Boggs: I_D_, Steve Perrucci: so. Brandon Boggs: yeah um is going to be looking more into the working design. So I guess you'd be looking at lots of the things we discussed about screen and um that sort of thing. The something, what is the U_I_? Steve Perrucci: User. Ronald Arbogast: That's Frankie Green. Brandon Boggs: Yeah, what does it stand for again? Ronald Arbogast: Uh, User Interface Brandon Boggs: User Ronald Arbogast: design. Brandon Boggs: Interface Designer. So that's gonna be more technical. I guess that maybe the working design has also to do with like the physical feat like just Ronald Arbogast: So Brandon Boggs: the way Ronald Arbogast: technical Brandon Boggs: it looks Steve Perrucci: The Ronald Arbogast: function. Steve Perrucci: working Brandon Boggs: and Steve Perrucci: design Brandon Boggs: the way Steve Perrucci: is Brandon Boggs: it w Steve Perrucci: the structure. Brandon Boggs: Yeah, yeah. Ronald Arbogast: What is technical functions exactl I I don't really know what Brandon Boggs: Um, I guess you'd have to find out. Frankie Green: It says Steve Perrucci: Um. Frankie Green: on that email Steve Perrucci: It Frankie Green: but Steve Perrucci: was Ronald Arbogast: It Steve Perrucci: in Ronald Arbogast: does Frankie Green: it Steve Perrucci: the email. Ronald Arbogast: but it I just don't really Steve Perrucci: I wrote down what Frankie Green: It Steve Perrucci: mine Frankie Green: said Steve Perrucci: were. Ronald Arbogast: Yeah. Frankie Green: um It said Ronald Arbogast: What effect should the thing ha should it have, okay. Alright. Frankie Green: Yeah like Ronald Arbogast: And working design. Okay. Frankie Green: Be a medium between you and the telly Ronald Arbogast: Yeah, Frankie Green: I think, Ronald Arbogast: yeah. Brandon Boggs: Mm. Frankie Green: that's uh Ronald Arbogast: Alright. And how it works, okay. Right. I'm I'm on task. Brandon Boggs: And the M_E_, what does that stand for? M Steve Perrucci: Marketing. Brandon Boggs: Marketing, Frankie Green: Marketing. Brandon Boggs: right. Frankie Green: Oh it's written Brandon Boggs: Um. Frankie Green: here, but um. Brandon Boggs: So we'll be working on the user requirements, um Yeah. Frankie Green: Okay. Brandon Boggs: So I guess that wraps it up. I'll see you all in thirty minutes. I just did.

The group introduced themselves to each other. Brandon Boggs discussed the goals for the project and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. The group practiced using the meeting-room equipment by drawing on the whiteboard. Brandon Boggs presented the projected profit and price point. The group discussed their experiences with remote controls. They complained that remotes got lost too easily, and suggested using a locator function. They also complained that remotes had too many buttons, and suggested incorporating a screen to simplify the interface but retain all of the functions. They also suggested making the remote water-resistant and including a clip. Brandon Boggs instructed Steve Perrucci to research the working design and components, Ronald Arbogast to research the technical functions, and Frankie Green to research user requirements.

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Douglas Basham: Okay. Ben Stephens: 'Kay so we'll try to zip through this, since we're short on time. Welcome everybody. Um hope your sessions went well. Um so this is our functional design meeting, we're going to consider um user needs, technical effects, and the working design of our remote control. Um I've been taking meetings on the minute minutes on the meetings, and I'll be putting them in the shared documents folder so if there's anything you need to refer to you can find them in there. Um I'll get the ones up for next time, um they're not finished yet. Right. Um so can we have updates from everyone from what you've worked on just kind of a quick summary of anything interesting that you'd like to share Douglas Basham: And I can Ben Stephens: or discuss Douglas Basham: start if Ben Stephens: in Douglas Basham: you Ben Stephens: this Douglas Basham: want. Ben Stephens: sure. Douglas Basham: Is there an order? No. We haven't Ben Stephens: Hm? Douglas Basham: decided on an order. Ben Stephens: No, Douglas Basham: First. Ben Stephens: any any order's fine. Douglas Basham: Okay. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Douglas Basham: Um, how do I put this Wendell Steele: Just Douglas Basham: I'll just Wendell Steele: uh Douglas Basham: put the cable in. Ben Stephens: Oh yeah, sorry. Douglas Basham: Is that it? Can you see? Oh, here. Okay. So what happens it doesn't work? Ben Stephens: It sh it takes a few seconds I think. Wendell Steele: You may need to Anthony Woods: Who's that? Douglas Basham: No. Is it in the Wendell Steele: But Douglas Basham: right Wendell Steele: sometimes Douglas Basham: thing? Wendell Steele: you have to do it it's like a three set setting cycle, so press it a couple times, hold down function and then press Douglas Basham: Oh wait, Wendell Steele: F_ eight. Douglas Basham: um. Uh. You need to help Douglas Basham. Ben Stephens: Uh-huh, and then press function. Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: and F_ eight. Anthony Woods: Could you just plug it back into hers because Douglas Basham: Oh, Anthony Woods: she had Douglas Basham: wait. Anthony Woods: oh. Douglas Basham: is that it? Wendell Steele: Adjusting. Ben Stephens: Here we are. Wendell Steele: The cable might be a little loose or something. Douglas Basham: Right Wendell Steele: Oh, Douglas Basham: here we Wendell Steele: you got Douglas Basham: are. Wendell Steele: it. Ben Stephens: Oh. Is it on? Douglas Basham: We're here. Ben Stephens: Okay. Douglas Basham: Okay, um. In order to see what the functional requirements were to be found, um a hundred people were tested in a usability laboratory through just their habits to n know their habits were observed and questionnaires were given out. Um, the findings in in some cases matched what we were talking about. Custome Customers and users don't like the way remote controls look, they don't like the way they feel, they don't think they match their operating behaviour, and an example is what we were talking about, the buttons, they only use ten per cent of the buttons, so later on there's a study of the buttons that they use most and I think we should design according to these buttons. Easy to lose, and R_S_I_. I don't know what R_S_I_ means. Um the person that did the questionnaire obviously did, I don't have a Ben Stephens: Hm. Douglas Basham: clue. Um, according to the frequency of use and the relevance of each buttons, I have made a list of the buttons that we should focus on in order of importance. So the most important buttons are those to do with channel selection. They're used about a hundred and sixty times per hour. And um yeah so and and people like to zap a lot apparently, so this is the order. Channel selection, teletext, volume, and power. The other ones are the settings, and they're used less than you know zero point eight to zero point five times per hour, and this means that I think we can we could have like a a button for all the settings, and then, just one, and then from there go on to the audio on the screen, either on the remote or on the television. Um, about the screen, and speech recognition, some people are more willing than others to actually pay for that. And if we look at the market, f people from well from fifteen to thirty five year old year olds, I don't really know how to describe this, um ninety one to seventy six percent of people in that age range are willing to pay more for this sort of product, while people that are above thirty five years ol um years old go from thirty five percent to eight percent, so people that are sixty five for example wouldn't actually pay for this sort of thing. Um I don't I don't know um what the decision to be made is, but I think that the people that actually do buy remotes m more are those like teenagers and young professionals and um, most likely, but we should discuss this together. And that's all I have to say about the matter, Ben Stephens: 'Kay. Douglas Basham: um. Shall I what do I do? Do I give this to someone else? Ben Stephens: Yeah. Just move right on. Anthony Woods: Right. So get this. Anthony Woods: Okay so now I need to press F_ eight, what is it? Ben Stephens: Uh function Douglas Basham: Function Ben Stephens: F_ Douglas Basham: F_ Ben Stephens: eight. Douglas Basham: eight. Anthony Woods: 'Kay. What's function? Ben Stephens: It's the little blue w it's Anthony Woods: Oh Ben Stephens: the Anthony Woods: function, Ben Stephens: one Anthony Woods: I Ben Stephens: th Anthony Woods: see Ben Stephens: yeah. Anthony Woods: it. There we go. Ben Stephens: Yeah should be It should be yeah. Anthony Woods: Okay. Um. This my presentation about the uh technical functions design and I basically just tried to focus on um just what what functions we need and how to make that the best function for the user. So uh and I just sort of like thought about it myself and looked on the internet. And okay so basically um I think i uh like it is really important that we sort of get this done in a user friendly and fashionable way. Um so I think things like uh you know keeping buttons together that like close together that um are used in the same way, uh or um maybe that making 'em the same colour, keeping the number of buttons the uh leas you know to a minimum, and also things like is it is it um is it uh can you c y small enough large enough I'm not sure we c I guess we would need to do some research about, I would, about what size is appropriate and that sort of thing, um but basically we need to make sure that it turns on and off the T_V_. Does it have like capacity to change the channels? Um does it do or do we need to have like functions for cable or V_C_R_? And then, is it findable, and uh how do we wanna do that? And um I just thought that these two remotes were pretty boring, um I dunno if this will work but And I think we can find something that's more fun to look at and use than either of those. Just I mean I like the one on the right better, just because it does have fewer buttons, uh but I mean I think we sh can sort of think about things like um like colour and you know size, shapes, that sort of thing, to best fit the user. That concludes my presentation. Okay. You need the little thingy. Anthony Woods: Ooh. Wendell Steele: How do I um Douglas Basham: S Douglas Basham: That's on view. Oh. Wendell Steele: Right. Okay so this is on the working design, which is sort of the uh mechanical functions of the remote, um and the method I used was to basically look at and incorporate ideas from our last meeting. Um so I think we need two basic functions which is just the basic remote functions, the user can input a channel or volume setting and it will be output to the T_V_. And also we talked about um a location function where maybe you could press a button on the T_V_ and it would send sort of signal to the remote where it would beep or flash or vibrate or whatever to tell you where the remote is. So the components we need are an energy source to power the remote, um input which would probably be buttons, although um we just talked about voice recognition, processor to take the information, um something to transmit it to the T_V_, and we also need something on the remote that would receive the location signal and have an output, like possibly a beep or a vibration. And also you need a sender for location signal, which would probably be a separate um thing that we'd have to sell with the remote and people could stick it on their T_V_ or stick it on their wall. And this is just sort of an overview of how the remote works. Power comes from the battery, goes to the chip, um and then it is sent from there to an infrared bulb which is probably the easiest way to send to the T_V_. And then for the location function, you would have a sender on the T_V_ which would output some sort of signal, um we could use I_R_ but we'd probably wanna use radio instead. That signal would go to a receiver which it would process it, and it would be output in the form of a buzzer or a light lighting up. Um so my personal preferences for how to build the remote would probably be uh, battery for the energy source, that way you wouldn't have to plug it in, um a button pad for input, um we can purchase a pre-made chip which will handle all the processing stuff, I_R_ transmitter to communicate to the T_V_, that's just sort of standard, um so most T_V_s have an I_R_ receiver. Probably a radio receiver to send out location function and to receive it and I'd probably say a buzzer for the location function on the remote itself. So that concludes my presentation. Ben Stephens: 'Kay. Anthony Woods: Do you know about like I dunno, Wendell Steele: Mm? Anthony Woods: you seem like you know about Wendell Steele: Yeah, uh I d I was an engineer Anthony Woods: Okay. Wendell Steele: before I came here. Anthony Woods: Cool. Ben Stephens: Okay. Well thank you everybody. Um we have we'll discuss that and then I just wanna mention some new project requirements that came in. Um, teletext is apparently outdated, so due to internet popularity, so that's off the list. Um, also our remote should be used only for television, um, no extra internet kinda fancy things, just the remote and the television. Um and also we need to incorporate our corporate image onto this, so um the phrase is, we put fashion in electronics, so let's be fashionable I guess. Um if we have something I mean silver and and gold or yellow are our colours, so if we had a like a kind of silver one like you saw, and yellow writing, something like that. Okay. Um. So we need to make some decisions on the remote control functions. Um, yeah. Do Let's I guess we should yeah make some kind of brainstorming, Anthony Woods: Like Ben Stephens: see Anthony Woods: in terms Ben Stephens: what we can Anthony Woods: of Douglas Basham: How it looks Anthony Woods: how Douglas Basham: or Anthony Woods: it looks, or like what Ben Stephens: wha Anthony Woods: it does? Ben Stephens: what um well probably our target group and how it's gonna going to appeal to our target group Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: and I dunno the the s the buttons and what it does and Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: that sort of thing. Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: So. Anthony Woods: So Is our target group then people so do we wanna go ahead and design this thing with the finder button? So Ben Stephens: I think that Wendell Steele: It's Ben Stephens: seems Wendell Steele: easy to Ben Stephens: to Wendell Steele: implement. Ben Stephens: yeah. Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: Mm. Anthony Woods: So Douglas Basham: the the Anthony Woods: the Douglas Basham: buzzer you Anthony Woods: yeah, Douglas Basham: mean, Anthony Woods: yeah, Douglas Basham: yeah, Anthony Woods: yeah. Wendell Steele: Locator. Douglas Basham: for sure, Anthony Woods: So Douglas Basham: yeah. Anthony Woods: then our target age group would be the nineteen to thirty five range, Ben Stephens: Yeah, Anthony Woods: what Ben Stephens: teenagers Anthony Woods: was it? Ben Stephens: and young professionals. Douglas Basham: Well that's for speech recognition. Anthony Woods: Oh. Wendell Steele: Well Ben Stephens: Oh, Douglas Basham: And screen. Ben Stephens: uh. Douglas Basham: That's only for Wendell Steele: I Douglas Basham: speech Wendell Steele: was thinking Douglas Basham: recognition Wendell Steele: about Douglas Basham: and Wendell Steele: that Douglas Basham: screen. Wendell Steele: but uh I mean speech recognition is really hard to programme, and also, Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: if the T_V_ is on it's making sound and the people on the T_V_ are talking, and if somebody says like one, then the T_V_'s gonna switch itself to channel one, Douglas Basham: Yeah yeah Wendell Steele: or Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: Mm. Douglas Basham: yeah. Wendell Steele: it Douglas Basham: I Wendell Steele: seems Douglas Basham: mean Wendell Steele: like a silly, Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: I'm not sure how you would implement it. Douglas Basham: I just put the values in. Ben Stephens: And Douglas Basham: But Ben Stephens: if Douglas Basham: um Ben Stephens: if you Douglas Basham: the Ben Stephens: consider Douglas Basham: screen Ben Stephens: our Douglas Basham: is Ben Stephens: budget, Douglas Basham: the same as Ben Stephens: it Douglas Basham: what, Ben Stephens: probably Wendell Steele: It's a cool idea Ben Stephens: if you consider Wendell Steele: but Ben Stephens: our budget, to Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: h have speech recognition programmed in every single remote might be a little Douglas Basham: Yeah, I'm Ben Stephens: pricey. Douglas Basham: happy with Ben Stephens: Yeah. Douglas Basham: that. Completely. Anthony Woods: Hu yeah. Ben Stephens: Right so um Anthony Woods: Okay so are we gonna have just some kind of a like we'll have the buzzer Ben Stephens: yeah. Anthony Woods: on the som like on the T_V_ itself. Wendell Steele: Well you would have to have a button on a T_V_ Douglas Basham: Yeah. Wendell Steele: or on your wall or some place Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: since the T_V_ already has power. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: Yeah you click the button, it's gonna send out a signal, and I was thinking, I_R_ is line of sight, so unless the remote is like actually in front of the T_V_ it's not gonna work, um so probably like a radio signal like on a Anthony Woods: Okay. Wendell Steele: on a Anthony Woods: Okay. Douglas Basham: Yeah. Wendell Steele: cell phone. Douglas Basham: Okay. Anthony Woods: Alright. Ben Stephens: Okay. Wendell Steele: Sends out a signal and then the the remote hears the signal and so it beeps probably. Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: So you you'd need like a separate base for that or like something Wendell Steele: It would have Ben Stephens: you Wendell Steele: to Ben Stephens: can Wendell Steele: be sold separately because Ben Stephens: right. Wendell Steele: if the sender's on the remote then you'd have to find the remote first to click the button to Ben Stephens: Yeah, Wendell Steele: find the remote. Ben Stephens: yeah. Douglas Basham: So do you plug it in the T_ you plug it in T_V_, this Wendell Steele: Yeah, it'd Douglas Basham: thing? Wendell Steele: probably just stick it on your T_V_ so Douglas Basham: Okay. Wendell Steele: if you need to find the remote, click Douglas Basham: Okay. Wendell Steele: the button. Anthony Woods: So it's now like a two-part Wendell Steele: Yeah, Anthony Woods: thing. Wendell Steele: so it would be Anthony Woods: Okay. Wendell Steele: a two part package. Anthony Woods: Alright. Douglas Basham: Okay. Anthony Woods: So we get to design that too. Make it fashionable. Um, okay. Ben Stephens: So do you think even though we're not talking about speek speech recognition our target group should still be teenagers and young professionals. Wendell Steele: Yeah I think Douglas Basham: Yeah. Wendell Steele: so. Ben Stephens: Huh. Douglas Basham: Just there. Ben Stephens: Okay. Douglas Basham: Mm. Are we um should that thing be on the thing to put the you s you talking about a home for it. Do you Ben Stephens: Yeah. Douglas Basham: still want to build a little thing next to the telly or to p hang on the wall or shall we leave that for now? Ben Stephens: We probably leave that. I mean I guess one takes care of the other, Douglas Basham: Okay. Ben Stephens: like Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: um if you can yeah if you can call it then it's Anthony Woods: Then it can live anywhere. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Douglas Basham: Okay. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: For the so you have that button, that so there's is there a light or shall we leave just have a radio? Wendell Steele: Um Douglas Basham: Are we just Wendell Steele: on the Douglas Basham: having Wendell Steele: T_V_ Douglas Basham: a radio? Wendell Steele: or on the phone? Douglas Basham: On the phone. Wendell Steele: Um Anthony Woods: T Wendell Steele: it seemed Douglas Basham: You don't Wendell Steele: like a Douglas Basham: need a light. Wendell Steele: a beep seemed the most Douglas Basham: Yeah Wendell Steele: reasonable Douglas Basham: yeah Wendell Steele: to Douglas Basham, Douglas Basham: yeah. Wendell Steele: I think Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: that's what the phone Douglas Basham: Yeah Wendell Steele: has, Douglas Basham: yeah. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: I mean when you need to find your phone, you just have someone call it and it starts ringing somewhere and then you can figure out Ben Stephens: And Wendell Steele: that it's Ben Stephens: like Wendell Steele: in the Ben Stephens: if Wendell Steele: couch Ben Stephens: the Wendell Steele: or Ben Stephens: if Wendell Steele: wherever. Ben Stephens: the phone's under the couch, you Douglas Basham: You Ben Stephens: might Douglas Basham: can Ben Stephens: not Douglas Basham: hear Ben Stephens: see the Douglas Basham: it's Ben Stephens: light, Douglas Basham: under the Ben Stephens: so Douglas Basham: couch yeah. Ben Stephens: yeah. Anthony Woods: So Douglas Basham: Um, Anthony Woods: i Yeah. Douglas Basham: So need the other buttons. So we have this Ben Stephens: So Douglas Basham: mm. Ben Stephens: I mean the two remotes that you had shown r I don't remember Douglas Basham: Mm-hmm. Ben Stephens: who Anthony Woods: That Ben Stephens: showed Anthony Woods: was Ben Stephens: them, Anthony Woods: that Ben Stephens: yeah Anthony Woods: was Douglas Basham. Ben Stephens: you you did um, they're I mean one looked like it was for V_C_R_ type thing, and the other looked like just Anthony Woods: I Ben Stephens: television. Anthony Woods: think w I think they're both sort of just like general remo they're both general Ben Stephens: Oh really. Anthony Woods: remotes. And Ben Stephens: 'Cause that Anthony Woods: uh Ben Stephens: that is something we have to decide, is whether we want to have V_C_R_ capabilities. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: Does anyone know if V_C_R_s are the same across international? Ben Stephens: They're not Douglas Basham: They're not, Ben Stephens: no. Douglas Basham: no. Wendell Steele: Okay, so you'd Anthony Woods: S Wendell Steele: need like a whole different Ben Stephens: Yeah, Wendell Steele: set of buttons Ben Stephens: that's Douglas Basham: It Wendell Steele: for Ben Stephens: right, Wendell Steele: everybody's Douglas Basham: not Ben Stephens: yeah. Douglas Basham: V_H_S_ Wendell Steele: V_C_R_s. Ben Stephens: But Douglas Basham: here? Ben Stephens: D_V_D_ probably is. Wendell Steele: Yeah, other than that region and coding thing. Anthony Woods: Um Douglas Basham: But V_C_R_s Ben Stephens: And and if we're if we're targeting young professionals and teenagers, I mean it's gonna be D_V_D_ type, Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: that's Douglas Basham: Yeah, Ben Stephens: the Douglas Basham: for Ben Stephens: the Douglas Basham: sure. Ben Stephens: technology Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: Mm-hmm. Ben Stephens: these days. Anthony Woods: So. Okay, let's see if I can I think still though, it shouldn't be that hard to take like just reduce the number of buttons you know, Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: like 'cause if you just have like one menu button, that works like with a you know, or you can just kind of scroll through the Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: options u Douglas Basham: Well Anthony Woods: that Douglas Basham: for Anthony Woods: come Douglas Basham: sure Anthony Woods: up Douglas Basham: we Anthony Woods: on the Douglas Basham: need Anthony Woods: T_V_. Douglas Basham: the um I think we can just design the channels? I mean power's Ben Stephens: S Douglas Basham: just a button, Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: Mm-hmm. Ben Stephens: Huh. Douglas Basham: and it's not used that much, s and Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: it's usually that red Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: and I think it's quite nice to keep it like Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: red. Ben Stephens: You know, I've seen some remotes that where you just hold one, like if you hold one down it's it's a different colour than the other buttons but that turns it on. So you don't actually have a separate power button, Douglas Basham: Oh Ben Stephens: it's Douglas Basham: okay, Ben Stephens: just Douglas Basham: yeah. Anthony Woods: It seems like that would be Ben Stephens: But Anthony Woods: hard though. I mean, like because unless you Ben Stephens: It might Anthony Woods: know Ben Stephens: be confusing. Anthony Woods: yeah. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: Just 'cause I wouldn't I would probably pick it up and just Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: be like uh why is there no on Ben Stephens: Besides Anthony Woods: button. Ben Stephens: you like to be able Wendell Steele: Yeah, Ben Stephens: to go Wendell Steele: I never Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: power. Wendell Steele: think to hold something Ben Stephens: I Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: down. Anthony Woods: B Ben Stephens: have the power Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: I guess. So we definitely want a power button and numbers. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: Right. Douglas Basham: Well even um iPod thing, like um, I don't know if people like this Anthony Woods: That Douglas Basham: scrolling Anthony Woods: sort of like Douglas Basham: I Anthony Woods: joystick Douglas Basham: don't know. Anthony Woods: flat Ben Stephens: Mm. Anthony Woods: touch Douglas Basham: Yeah. Anthony Woods: thing, yeah. Douglas Basham: Because people li seem now the iPod's out people seem to like this thing that there's no Know you don't have one two three Anthony Woods: Yeah, Douglas Basham: four Anthony Woods: yeah. Douglas Basham: five Anthony Woods: I think that's an interesting idea, 'cause Ben Stephens: Mm. Anthony Woods: it's cool, it's it's funny like you f like I just I don't have an iPod but like I, you know, I just like started messing around with one of my friend's the other day, and you just sort of and it's funny how you pick it up and you just figure out how to use it quite easily, like it's not that hard, Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: you know. Douglas Basham: Yeah yeah, it's just and it's one thing Anthony Woods: Yeah, Douglas Basham: which has Anthony Woods: and Douglas Basham: everything. Anthony Woods: it is yeah. It is really but do you need a screen then, do you have to have a screen then? Douglas Basham: Well can't it tell the like can't you Wendell Steele: Yeah, you Douglas Basham: if Wendell Steele: can Douglas Basham: you Wendell Steele: have the number going Douglas Basham: you Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: can Wendell Steele: around Douglas Basham: have the number Wendell Steele: in the corner. Anthony Woods: Okay. Douglas Basham: on the telly going Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: like one two three four five Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: once you scroll Anthony Woods: Okay Douglas Basham: and then Anthony Woods: so we Ben Stephens: Oh Anthony Woods: have Ben Stephens: that's Anthony Woods: this Ben Stephens: gonna Anthony Woods: like scrolling sort of button. Ben Stephens: Is that like on Anthony Woods: Like a Ben Stephens: on Anthony Woods: disc. Ben Stephens: a mouse pad where Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: like kind Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: of Anthony Woods: It's Ben Stephens: okay. Anthony Woods: like it's just like the same Ben Stephens: I've Douglas Basham: It's Ben Stephens: never Douglas Basham: like Anthony Woods: technology Ben Stephens: used Douglas Basham: l Ben Stephens: one. Anthony Woods: as a mouse Douglas Basham: this Ben Stephens: No. Anthony Woods: pad. Douglas Basham: like that, and Ben Stephens: Okay. Douglas Basham: then you do that. Ben Stephens: Okay. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Yeah Douglas Basham: And Anthony Woods: and Douglas Basham: then Anthony Woods: then. Douglas Basham: you can have um if you actually just want to zap, you can have like a thing like that, and that, and then it can just be plus and minus. Anthony Woods: Okay. So like it's like a little part of the circle that Or it Douglas Basham: Yeah, Anthony Woods: oh Douglas Basham: you can Anthony Woods: so it's just Ben Stephens: Well Anthony Woods: a region Ben Stephens: i Anthony Woods: of the circle that you can Douglas Basham: Yeah, click Anthony Woods: zap. Douglas Basham: o actually Anthony Woods: Okay. Douglas Basham: click Ben Stephens: We could Douglas Basham: on to Ben Stephens: we could Douglas Basham: have Ben Stephens: even have four buttons, like, if that's the if that's the mouse, you could have the volume Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: and the channel changers Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: just like on that as well. Anthony Woods: be like the top it and the bottom So do you need to Wendell Steele: Doesn't Anthony Woods: okay. Wendell Steele: it rotate though, so it'll be Anthony Woods: Well Wendell Steele: moving Anthony Woods: y you Wendell Steele: around. Anthony Woods: have to you have to like be able to change the function of it to like Douglas Basham: What do you mean the function? Anthony Woods: I mean like okay, 'cause so I dunno, I guess Okay so when you g scroll your thumb like around it, it'll s like say you're go you're going clockwise. That that means you're gonna go up the channels, and then you Douglas Basham: Yeah. Anthony Woods: scroll the other way and it'll go down. Douglas Basham: Yeah. Wendell Steele: Mm-hmm. Anthony Woods: But then so if you wanna switch to the to u do you have to switch to a function where like y so you're either in that mode or you're in the mode where like it just has like the four like you know this is channel that way, that's that way and volume is up and down. Douglas Basham: Yeah but it knows for some Anthony Woods: It Douglas Basham: reason. Anthony Woods: just Douglas Basham: The iPod knows. Anthony Woods: It just kno the iPod knows. S Wendell Steele: If it works on an iPod then it works. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: Huh. Anthony Woods: So you just you just Wendell Steele: I don't Anthony Woods: can Wendell Steele: have Anthony Woods: either Wendell Steele: one. Anthony Woods: do this or like you can just touch it if you want. Douglas Basham: Well for the volume you have to press the middle, Anthony Woods: Okay. That's Douglas Basham: and Anthony Woods: what Douglas Basham: then Anthony Woods: I mean. Okay. Douglas Basham: go up. Anthony Woods: Okay so you have to like Wendell Steele: Oh. Anthony Woods: press this middle region and then you can scroll up, go up Douglas Basham: And Anthony Woods: and down. Douglas Basham: then Ben Stephens: So Douglas Basham: well Ben Stephens: it's like Douglas Basham: if you Ben Stephens: holding Douglas Basham: do that it goes, but if you like that makes more sense 'cause there's already ones with up and down Ben Stephens: You can Douglas Basham: here, Ben Stephens: o Douglas Basham: that I've seen. Ben Stephens: And you you is there an extra actual button? Or are you actually you're just using the mouse to go up and down. Douglas Basham: Well what you Ben Stephens: Like Douglas Basham: for the Anthony Woods: It's Douglas Basham: iPod Anthony Woods: like a b Douglas Basham: you press an w right if you're on the channel let's Ben Stephens: Mm-hmm. Douglas Basham: say, then you press on the middle Ben Stephens: Mm-hmm. Douglas Basham: and then if you do that again the volume goes up, and Ben Stephens: Right. Douglas Basham: if you do that it goes down. Ben Stephens: Mm-hmm. Douglas Basham: But if you wanna keep it with volume here and here, I'm pretty sure Ben Stephens: this for channels, right, Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: then y wouldn't the volume need to be separate somehow? Like you could just have Douglas Basham: I don't know, you Ben Stephens: Oh, Douglas Basham: could click Ben Stephens: like Douglas Basham: and then have it up and Anthony Woods: Like Douglas Basham: down, Ben Stephens: Oh Douglas Basham: but Ben Stephens: you Douglas Basham: I think Ben Stephens: could actually Anthony Woods: I think we can go on the fact that it does just work with the Douglas Basham: Yeah Anthony Woods: iPod. Douglas Basham: yeah Wendell Steele: Yeah. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: But Douglas Basham: yeah. Anthony Woods: the only thing is like, iPods are so expensive, like, it has to be is that part of Ben Stephens: Is that what makes them Anthony Woods: yeah, Ben Stephens: expensi I think Anthony Woods: I Ben Stephens: it's Anthony Woods: dunno, Ben Stephens: all of they Anthony Woods: I dunno. Ben Stephens: have Wendell Steele: I don't Ben Stephens: so Wendell Steele: think Ben Stephens: much Wendell Steele: so. Ben Stephens: memory though, Anthony Woods: You don't Ben Stephens: that's Anthony Woods: think so? Ben Stephens: it's Wendell Steele: I Anthony Woods: Okay. Wendell Steele: don't think it's the Douglas Basham: I think Wendell Steele: wheel Douglas Basham: it Wendell Steele: dealy. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Douglas Basham: Yeah. Ben Stephens: I think Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: it's the uh h it's their capabili I mean they it can hold what like five thousand Wendell Steele: Yeah. Ben Stephens: songs Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: or something. Anthony Woods: I'm thinking we could if if we're hav So ba I mean but an iPod Wendell Steele: re-programmable Anthony Woods: just has that Wendell Steele: aren't Anthony Woods: circle Wendell Steele: they? You Anthony Woods: thing Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: can put Anthony Woods: you Wendell Steele: on Anthony Woods: know. Wendell Steele: your songs and then put on a Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: different set, that's Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: probably why they're expensive, Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: they're like little Ben Stephens: S Wendell Steele: computers. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Well like since it just has the circle thing, you could make it a qui a kind of cool shape, like it could be a cool Douglas Basham: Yeah. Anthony Woods: sort of Wendell Steele: Mm-hmm. Anthony Woods: you know, because it could be circular, Douglas Basham: Yeah Anthony Woods: you Douglas Basham: yeah Anthony Woods: know, Douglas Basham: yeah. Anthony Woods: or something weird like Douglas Basham: Well Anthony Woods: that, Douglas Basham: it could Anthony Woods: just Douglas Basham: just be simple instead of being a l mass. Because, the other thing, I didn't tell you all my presentation, is that people find it find that it's a big waste of time to have to learn how to use your remote Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: and that's Ben Stephens: Mm. Douglas Basham: another thing they complained about. Anthony Woods: Yeah. Douglas Basham: Um, what other buttons were there? Volume oh we've ts just said that. Anthony Woods: So okay. Douglas Basham: Channel selection. Anthony Woods: This is just for T_V_, it's not for or it is does need to be compatible with Wendell Steele: I Ben Stephens: Um Wendell Steele: A D_V_D_ is simple, you just have play, Anthony Woods: Yeah. Wendell Steele: pause, Anthony Woods: So Douglas Basham: Menu. Anthony Woods: how do Ben Stephens: You Wendell Steele: eject, Anthony Woods: you Ben Stephens: know Anthony Woods: switch Ben Stephens: actually our our new project requirements, Wendell Steele: and Ben Stephens: I'm Wendell Steele: menu Ben Stephens: not sure Wendell Steele: maybe. Ben Stephens: if they meant o onl use only for television as in not for D_V_D_ or just not Wendell Steele: Oh yeah. Ben Stephens: internet type things. So I'll I'll Anthony Woods: Okay. Ben Stephens: check that and update you on the next Anthony Woods: So like if we had Ben Stephens: But Anthony Woods: that Ben Stephens: we'll hold off on that 'cause Anthony Woods: Yeah. Ben Stephens: But s yeah Douglas Basham: But Ben Stephens: uh. Douglas Basham: D_V_D_ players usually have their own remote. Anthony Woods: That's true, yeah. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: So, I know I'm not c really Wendell Steele: But it's Anthony Woods: clear Wendell Steele: cool Anthony Woods: on Wendell Steele: to have Anthony Woods: what Wendell Steele: it all on one, because Douglas Basham: Yeah, Wendell Steele: you Anthony Woods: Yeah, Wendell Steele: wanna turn Douglas Basham: yeah, Wendell Steele: it Anthony Woods: yeah. Douglas Basham: yeah. Wendell Steele: on then you wanna turn up the volume, and then you wanna go to Ben Stephens: Mm. Wendell Steele: the menu, Douglas Basham: Yeah. Anthony Woods: So Wendell Steele: so Anthony Woods: you'd have Ben Stephens: Mm. Anthony Woods: to have like Wendell Steele: you don't Anthony Woods: I Wendell Steele: wanna Anthony Woods: think Wendell Steele: switch. Anthony Woods: you would have to have like a function switch button, you know somewhere so like you can you're either on T_V_, you're on D_V_D_ or you're on V_C_R_, Ben Stephens: Yeah. Anthony Woods: or you're like. Wendell Steele: Well Anthony Woods: So Wendell Steele: but D_V_D_ is only like four buttons. Douglas Basham: Yeah, it Anthony Woods: Yeah, Douglas Basham: is Anthony Woods: but Douglas Basham: only Anthony Woods: I mean Douglas Basham: fun Anthony Woods: like to switch Ben Stephens: But Anthony Woods: the fun Ben Stephens: i Anthony Woods: so like to switch the function of the little circle disc, the touch Wendell Steele: Oh. Anthony Woods: pad. Ben Stephens: Yeah. Wendell Steele: But I think the circle only does channel isn't applicable to D_V_D_ really 'cause you don't wanna Anthony Woods: Yeah but it it Wendell Steele: but Anthony Woods: would Wendell Steele: volume Anthony Woods: be Wendell Steele: is and volume is actually controlled on the T_V_ so you don't have to switch. Anthony Woods: So but I'm saying like, does it make sense to have like some kind of a button, so like you're if you're on T_V_, like you can switch channels, but then if uh if you're on D_V_D_ then like the channel bu like the the region of the disc that was for channels is for like switching to different tracks or s you know, to different I mean do we need to think about that, that like Ben Stephens: Um, Wendell Steele: Yes we Ben Stephens: yeah, Wendell Steele: can try Ben Stephens: let's Wendell Steele: that. Ben Stephens: think about it 'cause we need to wrap up. Um Douglas Basham: Okay. Ben Stephens: let's see. Um so everyone's gonna go finish their questionnaire, uh then when we come back after lunch we'll have thirty minutes of individual work, um yeah, so think about the things we've discussed and bring some new ideas to our next meeting. See you soon.

Douglas Basham gave a presentation about user requirements as shown through a usability study and demonstrated that only a small number of functions on a remote were used with frequency. She suggested focusing the interface design on the most frequently used functions. Anthony Woods presented some questions that should be considered in making the device user-friendly and displayed two existing remote controls for comparison. Wendell Steele discussed the necessary internal components and how they operated together, and presented her preferences for the type of each component to be used. Ben Stephens gave the group several new requirements for the project. The group discussed several product features and decided that the remote will feature a locator function and will not feature speech recognition. The group discussed whether or not the remote should control multiple devices. They discussed important button functions to include and increasing usability by incorporating a scroll wheel in the design. Ben Stephens instructed the other participants to fill out a questionnaire and to work on their individual presentations for the next meeting.

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Kelly Kowalski: Hi everyone, hope you had a nice lunch Um. Alright we're moving on to conceptual design. George Perez: 'Scuse David Campbell. David Campbell: Bless you. Kelly Kowalski: Um, I'll just review what we did in our last meeting. Um, under marketing we targeted our audience, and Um, yeah. That was generally how helpful that was. Um, then we considered some design options with how it should look, um, we discussed an iPod-like button system which, uh, we haven't concluded but we're Right, um So if, you all have presentations to do, we can see what where you've come from our last time. Does everyone have Adolfo Tanner: Hmm. Kelly Kowalski: presentations? David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: Yes. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: Yes. Kelly Kowalski: Would anybody like to go first? Adolfo Tanner: Sure. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: So I've been looking at the components design. Um. Mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting. Um, so we need some custom design parts, and other parts we'll just use standard. Um, I assume we'll be custom designing our case, probably a hard plastic or some other material case, to protect the remote and the locator. And we'll need to custom desi design a circuit board, because the board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time. But once we come up with a design we'll send it to the circuit people and they'll just print it out. Um, standard parts include the buttons and the wheels, um the iPod-style wheel. The infrared L_E_D_ is actually gonna be included in the circuit board that comes with it. Um, we need a radio sender and receiver, those are standard. And al we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote. So we have some material options. Um, we can use rubber, plastic, wood or titanium. Um, I'd recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it's really heavy. Um, and the rubber case requires rubber buttons, so if we definitely want plastic buttons, we shouldn't have a rubber case. Kelly Kowalski: And Adolfo Tanner: And, Kelly Kowalski: why not wood? Adolfo Tanner: hmm? Kelly Kowalski: And why not wood? Adolfo Tanner: Uh, well we can use wood. I don't know why we'd want to. Um and also we should note that if we want an iPod-style wheel button, it's gonna require a m qu slightly more expensive chip. We can't use the minimal chip, we need the next higher grade, which is called regular. I don't think it's much more expensive, but it is more expensive. So that's what I've got on design. Kelly Kowalski: 'S good. David Campbell: Um, can I do next? 'Cause I have to say something about the Kelly Kowalski: Hmm. David Campbell: material George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: which is quite shocking. David Campbell: Ha. Mm. David Campbell: Right, um, I have been searching the current trends, um, both on the web and via fashion-watchers, and the findings are that the first thing to aim for is a fashion uh, fancy look and feel. Um. Next comes technologic technology and the innovations to do with that. And th last thing is the easy to use um factor Um. fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing, but I suppose that is included in in the ease of use. Um, our fashion-watchers in Milan and Paris have decided, well noticed, that f the fruit and vegetable theme is the is the current trend and and therefore um we need to go for that if we want, you know, wh whatever our motto is. Um. For fashion, Kelly Kowalski: Mm. David Campbell: we go for fashion. The fashion in electronics. So we want to put the fashion electronics, we need to go fruit and vegetables. And also go for a spongy feel, so the the question of our technology whate is Industrial Designer. As to the material should be limited to I don't know how spongy it can be, should discuss this together, I don't know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that's the way to go. Um. I I have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and I prefer fruits to vegetables, but that's just a personal opinion. I think I think people like to have a fruit instead of a vegetables in their sitting room. Uh those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed, so that still has to do with the material discuss should we print the fruit stuff, or should the actual remote look like a fruit? Um, and finally again with the spongy. It has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our Industrial Designer should look into that or find come up with a solution that's better than mine. Um, yeah, to summarise these are the points that need to be um, touched in order to get a good decision, and hopefully our User Interface has more to say about the matter. George Perez: Mm-hmm. David Campbell: Thank you for your attention. George Perez: So. Kelly Kowalski: I think it's the next George Perez: Oh, Kelly Kowalski: it's George Perez: uh, Kelly Kowalski: the blue one, George Perez: there Kelly Kowalski: yeah. George Perez: we go. Uh. Okay. Um. Well so that fruit and vegetables thing huh. I actually wasn't aware of the new trends in electronics and David Campbell: Neither was I. Well George Perez: and David Campbell: it's George Perez: uh David Campbell: a trend in fashion, in clothing and um Kelly Kowalski: Yeah but David Campbell: fabrics. Kelly Kowalski: you're not gonna wear your remote control. George Perez: So so okay, let David Campbell get this right. Okay, uh Okay, alright anyway. Um here we go. Conceptual User Interface. Trying we're gonna to about, um what kind of uh how people are actually going to be using this iPod-ish remote control, based on fruit vegetable design. And, um, basically, so, this is a touched ba a touch-based graphical interface system. Uh, so people are going to be looking at this little screen. Um, kind of I mean I assume, are we still on the screen idea? Kelly Kowalski: Oh we s hadn't discussed it last George Perez: 'Cause if Kelly Kowalski: time. George Perez: we're gonna have to ha if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the um the wheel Kelly Kowalski: You need a screen George Perez: you Kelly Kowalski: for George Perez: it seems Kelly Kowalski: it? George Perez: like you would need a screen. Adolfo Tanner: You need a screen with music because you're looking for a specific song, like you know that band or whatever. George Perez: But like if you Adolfo Tanner: With George Perez: think Adolfo Tanner: T_V_ George Perez: about Adolfo Tanner: channels George Perez: it Adolfo Tanner: it's, you know, one two three. George Perez: yeah Adolfo Tanner: So George Perez: but if so is it just okay. So, b you you're gonna have to switch to like D_V_D_ and like other things like that, aren't Kelly Kowalski: We're, George Perez: you? Kelly Kowalski: um, we're George Perez: Are Kelly Kowalski: actually George Perez: we Kelly Kowalski: not having D_V_D_, that was Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: one of th I George Perez: Okay. Kelly Kowalski: I was sorry, I I George Perez: Alright. Kelly Kowalski: meant to update you on that. George Perez: Okay. Kelly Kowalski: Um. David Campbell: But the screen can come up on the telly, the George Perez: Okay. David Campbell: she said. That George Perez: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. David Campbell: correct? George Perez: So anyway if well we just we need to Okay so if we're not gonna have a screen I think I was thinking okay. So basically it's just gonna be a wheel then? And you're just gonna I mean I think you're gonna have to have some kind of a David Campbell: Graphical George Perez: right. David Campbell: interface? George Perez: Yeah David Campbell: Uh George Perez: like you're David Campbell: on George Perez: g David Campbell: the you can have it on the telly though. George Perez: yeah Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: like you're gonna have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay we're not choosing that, I guess. But like choose channel control, like if you wa Because people aren't gonna be able to have like, um, you know, channels one two three four five six seven eight nine. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: So that people seems to be Kelly Kowalski: You've Yeah, George Perez: well Kelly Kowalski: I know what you're saying, George Perez: You know. Kelly Kowalski: you have George Perez: But Kelly Kowalski: to George Perez: you're gonna have to scroll to get channels. So um I guess that's wh why I was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because So that people can go arou go back and forth and choose if or or then again if you just I guess I c I can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the T_V_ David Campbell: Yeah, George Perez: like what channel you're on. David Campbell: yeah, George Perez: You can Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. George Perez: just David Campbell: yeah. George Perez: scroll and David Campbell: Yeah, George Perez: you can just get David Campbell: yeah. George Perez: to like five or like twelve or Kelly Kowalski: But Adolfo Tanner: My flatmates Kelly Kowalski: but imagine Adolfo Tanner: actually Kelly Kowalski: someone Adolfo Tanner: had Kelly Kowalski: with Adolfo Tanner: one with Kelly Kowalski: s Adolfo Tanner: a wheel, and it it did show up George Perez: I Adolfo Tanner: on the T_V_. George Perez: oh yeah? Kelly Kowalski: But i what if you have satellite and you have like two hundred channels. Then to George Perez: 'Cause Kelly Kowalski: get to channel George Perez: you'll Kelly Kowalski: one George Perez: have Kelly Kowalski: eighty David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: to Kelly Kowalski: nine George Perez: like Kelly Kowalski: you have to Adolfo Tanner: They have to George Perez: but Adolfo Tanner: r George Perez: you can Adolfo Tanner: wheel George Perez: quickly Adolfo Tanner: really fast. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: s you can Adolfo Tanner: But I think the wheel goes through like a hundred George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: Yeah, Adolfo Tanner: channels, David Campbell: yeah, yeah. Adolfo Tanner: at least on theirs. George Perez: Yeah if you do, it w so it would have to be you I mean so you basically just kinda need to figure out like what kind of, you know, range we need to have on the wheel, and um So you're either you're you know, th you're either doing this motion to like control the channels or like once once you stop that, you know, you can like tap for, um, Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: different uh, whatchamacallits, different um, you know, functions like volume or, like you can tap just to get to different channels. Like if you just wanted to go to like from five to six you could tap or someth Kelly Kowalski: Right. George Perez: And then there's also the concern about you know um how do you get to the menu if you wanna change the brightness of your television, or if you want to um you know switch around, I don't know, like, these different modes like turn on the timer or like Kelly Kowalski: Yeah George Perez: something something like that, like Kelly Kowalski: I mean with that many options, you'd uh I'd think that the screen would be better, because George Perez: I would think Kelly Kowalski: you George Perez: so Kelly Kowalski: could have George Perez: too, Kelly Kowalski: that George Perez: like Kelly Kowalski: menu option, sort of George Perez: So I mean and it seems it w it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it, you know, because Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: but then again it would it does make kind of if the screen's sort of just like an option that, like, is just there and you're not really using it, that's kind of Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: It's George Perez: m Adolfo Tanner: more expensive George Perez: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: according to the design Kelly Kowalski: Uh. Adolfo Tanner: people. George Perez: Yeah, that's the only Adolfo Tanner: You have George Perez: thing Adolfo Tanner: to George Perez: though. Adolfo Tanner: get a an advanced chip if you wanna have a screen in, which is more expensive than the regular chip, which is more expensive than the George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: minimal. George Perez: So then basically Kelly Kowalski: Mm. George Perez: it has to have some way to get to get to a mode on the television where you're doing, um You can get to you know, you can Like maybe it'll be that central button David Campbell: Yeah, George Perez: that, David Campbell: yeah, George Perez: like, David Campbell: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: Mm-hmm. George Perez: then Kelly Kowalski: Mm. George Perez: you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the T_V_ David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: and you can just Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: scroll around, Kelly Kowalski: So George Perez: like, Kelly Kowalski: the T_V_ George Perez: to do Kelly Kowalski: is George Perez: the timer, Kelly Kowalski: the screen, George Perez: to do the Kelly Kowalski: that George Perez: yeah, Kelly Kowalski: yeah George Perez: yeah. Kelly Kowalski: So it would have all these different options George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: of changing George Perez: But the remote Kelly Kowalski: to George Perez: itself isn't really David Campbell: Look George Perez: cluttered David Campbell: it even George Perez: up. David Campbell: has settings. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. George Perez: Hmm? David Campbell: On the Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: you can just George Perez: Yeah, David Campbell: take theirs Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: well we David Campbell: and George Perez: don't want the David Campbell: just George Perez: screen I guess, but um 'cause that just it does seem like, it that would be, like, incredibly expensive, but I dunno, and then so, it just im really all you need is, like, this little wheel then, and you can control everything. So Kelly Kowalski: Um, right. What if I mean, if you're thinking of the design of it now, like the a you know, physical attributes, George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: um, and you just have this, it's like just a long silver thing, or whatever we're thinking. I mean are you you gonna have any buttons on that besides power and this thing? Or George Perez: It doesn't seem that you would need anything besides pow I mean and the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: longer than one second and it turns on the T_V_. Kelly Kowalski: So can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before. I George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: mean George Perez: Yeah definitely. Like, Kelly Kowalski: okay. George Perez: I think we're looking at something that could be, like like even maybe like a cir I'm f I'm seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing. David Campbell: Yeah George Perez: I mean David Campbell: but George Perez: it David Campbell: should Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: be George Perez: it Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. David Campbell: comfortable. George Perez: needs to be easy Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: I mean how do how do I'm not really Like when I use an iPod, I end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, I've George Perez: So Kelly Kowalski: seen some people just going like that George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: with their David Campbell: Yeah Kelly Kowalski: thumb, George Perez: Or your thumb David Campbell: I use Kelly Kowalski: yeah. George Perez: or something. David Campbell: it like that. Adolfo Tanner: W George Perez: So Adolfo Tanner: when we had the wheely remote control, we it was on the top I think, if you held it like that. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah, Kelly Kowalski: But, George Perez: so Kelly Kowalski: were there buttons on there as well? Adolfo Tanner: Yeah well it had the wheely thing and then it had those eighteen different buttons Kelly Kowalski: Mm. Adolfo Tanner: that I don't know what they do. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: Mm Adolfo Tanner: So George Perez: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: we just used the top part. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah, David Campbell: Uh. George Perez: so but I mean I think it could be pretty small. Like, I d I mean, you you want it to be large enough that you can Kelly Kowalski: What if, um, you had like a b a cover that went over buttons that you don't use very much? Like you so you could slide it up if you needed to like change the contrast or something like that? So the options are there but they're not in interfering with the design and the practicality of it. George Perez: But can't you just Kelly Kowalski: Do do George Perez: get Kelly Kowalski: you know what I'm talking Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: about though? Like, uh, yeah just Adolfo Tanner: Yeah Kelly Kowalski: something Adolfo Tanner: like George Perez: K Adolfo Tanner: maybe something on the side David Campbell: Well you Adolfo Tanner: where David Campbell: can Adolfo Tanner: you David Campbell: have it on Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, David Campbell: the settings, Adolfo Tanner: slip a Kelly Kowalski: that Adolfo Tanner: panel Kelly Kowalski: you can flip Adolfo Tanner: down David Campbell: no? Adolfo Tanner: and it's Kelly Kowalski: over, Adolfo Tanner: got a Kelly Kowalski: yeah, Adolfo Tanner: whole George Perez: Yeah, Adolfo Tanner: bunch of Kelly Kowalski: yeah. George Perez: But, I mean, do you need that? If if you can get to, you know if so long as you're able to bring up the menu on the T_V_ screen. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah I mean I guess Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: that's the George Perez: That Kelly Kowalski: thing George Perez: keeps Kelly Kowalski: is George Perez: it Kelly Kowalski: is if w I George Perez: really Kelly Kowalski: if we can do this, that'd probably George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: be George Perez: Uh you wouldn't I don't I just don't think you would even need it. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, yeah. George Perez: So Kelly Kowalski: So I George Perez: Mean Kelly Kowalski: guess we have to look into the, um, like, the programming, how this how they actually programme these things, Adolfo Tanner: Oh Kelly Kowalski: and if Adolfo Tanner: how they Kelly Kowalski: that's Adolfo Tanner: make the menu show up on Kelly Kowalski: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: the T_V_? George Perez: I mean Adolfo Tanner: I George Perez: you can Adolfo Tanner: don't George Perez: do Kelly Kowalski: I Adolfo Tanner: know. George Perez: it, Kelly Kowalski: mean David Campbell: They already Kelly Kowalski: it would David Campbell: do Kelly Kowalski: y David Campbell: it. Kelly Kowalski: would George Perez: you it's Adolfo Tanner: I George Perez: it Adolfo Tanner: believe George Perez: doesn't Kelly Kowalski: that Adolfo Tanner: it's George Perez: seem Kelly Kowalski: would Adolfo Tanner: ins George Perez: that Kelly Kowalski: be George Perez: hard. Adolfo Tanner: it's gotta be inside the T_V_, not inside the remote. George Perez: I mean I've never bought Adolfo Tanner: I'm George Perez: a Adolfo Tanner: not George Perez: remote. Adolfo Tanner: sure. George Perez: It sounds like this remote's going to be purchased separately from the television, which Adolfo Tanner: Well George Perez: is a little Adolfo Tanner: they usually are. Well George Perez: My I've never bought just a remote, like, so David Campbell: No. George Perez: I don't I don't really Kelly Kowalski: Huh. George Perez: know. But um Adolfo Tanner: I guess that's right. It always comes with the T_V_. George Perez: So, um but I mean it's I've never had a hard time with like my remotes, like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever, you know. And I don't think that should uh that should be too hard. Adolfo Tanner: Yeah, it most of the ones we've had have had the menu button, 'cause it's not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something. George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: 'Cause it just doesn't come up every day or something. George Perez: Yeah. Well so So, do we need I dunno. Well I guess we have to you know think about But I mean you just basically need the output signal Adolfo Tanner: Mm-hmm. George Perez: you know to Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: be able to bring it up. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. George Perez: That's what it does anyway. David Campbell: But also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out, because the problem with buttons is you like, they have these sort of abbreviations and George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. David Campbell: codes Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, David Campbell: that you're supposed Kelly Kowalski: you David Campbell: to understand, Kelly Kowalski: don't know they mean, David Campbell: and Kelly Kowalski: yeah, David Campbell: I never Kelly Kowalski: it's David Campbell: get Kelly Kowalski: like David Campbell: it. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: Never Kelly Kowalski: yeah. David Campbell: ever. So George Perez: So, but oh, you mean if we have this screen like the iPod screen? David Campbell: Well on the telly. Adolfo Tanner: Or on the T_V_ George Perez: On the Adolfo Tanner: too. George Perez: telly, okay, yeah. So yeah I think, I mean, I think I think the touch-based graphical interface is a really uh cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now I hit this you know, you have your little guide out and you're like, hit this button twice, like Kelly Kowalski: Mm. George Perez: to David Campbell: Mm. Kelly Kowalski: And it is technologically George Perez: activate the date. Kelly Kowalski: innovative in a way, so George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: that George Perez: I guess. Kelly Kowalski: fits with the George Perez: And it is trendy, Kelly Kowalski: B George Perez: the iPods are Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: really hot right now, David Campbell: Did you George Perez: so David Campbell: did you get that pc picture on did they provide you with that picture George Perez: Um, David Campbell: on the web? George Perez: yeah, by web research, yeah, so David Campbell: That's quite interesting. What are we going to do about this vegetable thing that I'm dreading? Kelly Kowalski: Oh George Perez: Oh. Kelly Kowalski: god. Adolfo Tanner: Oh, I was gonna say. You said uh people want spongy. Um, David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: one of your one of the material options is a sort of rubber that's in like those stress ball things. So, George Perez: Oh, okay, that David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: would Kelly Kowalski: Ah. George Perez: be cool. Adolfo Tanner: that would be spongy. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: Mm. David Campbell: Just nice feel, but I hate spongy. George Perez: Yeah, c Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: that's e that would be kind of oh, you know, usually like the touch pad things are kind of a hard plastic typ mouse type, Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: you know, thing. But what if Kelly Kowalski: I George Perez: we Kelly Kowalski: mean George Perez: ha Kelly Kowalski: definitely the area George Perez: what if Kelly Kowalski: round George Perez: we had like Kelly Kowalski: it. George Perez: a spongy sort of like stress balley kinda so you're like Adolfo Tanner: Yeah I think it could work. George Perez: Or what Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: if we integrated the the uh the f what if the whole thing about the fruit and vegetables we somehow made it tactilely fash you know, we c tapped into that, so like it feels like David Campbell: Well George Perez: a vegetable. David Campbell: it could be Kelly Kowalski: An David Campbell: like Kelly Kowalski: orange. Adolfo Tanner: Don't think David Campbell: mobiles Adolfo Tanner: I'd want it to feel David Campbell: that just Adolfo Tanner: like a banana. David Campbell: you just put a cover. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: If it's a small thing, you c instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana, which frankly I'm not particularly fond of, um you could just have covers and then your mobile f it's like a mobile phone thing. You know you George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: had Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: there was a time when they had all these different covers George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: You David Campbell: for Adolfo Tanner: could David Campbell: mobiles. Adolfo Tanner: do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit, apple machine and they have like the blueberry, David Campbell: Yeah, Adolfo Tanner: like all David Campbell: yeah, Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: the colours David Campbell: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: are named after fruits. George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: You could name it after fruits and vegetables, David Campbell: And George Perez: or David Campbell: it could the colour can fit your sitting room, so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry, and then if you have a green one you can have well I don't know. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: Um. Kelly Kowalski: So George Perez: So Kelly Kowalski: what George Perez: I think Kelly Kowalski: if what George Perez: yeah, colours. Kelly Kowalski: this is I'm just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking. If you have like that stress ball material kind of as what you're actually holding in your hand, so like what you're feeling is comfortable, and then there's more of a hard plastic thing David Campbell: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: where that thing is. George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: And on that hard plastic thing you can change either the colour or the fruit or vegetable that's on there. George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Is that kind of I 'cause I I'm thinking of silver because those are our company colours. George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Um George Perez: Unfortunately they don't have silver fruits and vegetables. I do I dunno. Um Kelly Kowalski: I mean how are you how are you all envisioning by what we've just the feedback we've just got about the David Campbell: Maybe a ball. Kelly Kowalski: A ball? David Campbell: Know, a squashy ball. A relaxing squashy ball. George Perez: That's in the shape of a fruit, like a David Campbell: That you can p well I see you're thinking, it's weird, you're thinking the opposite of David Campbell 'cause you're thinking you change the the hard bit Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: and I'm thinking how do you change the hard would you put a um sticker sort of? Because I was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit, like a Kelly Kowalski: This is just Okay. David Campbell: Oh, Kelly Kowalski: Say David Campbell: okay, Kelly Kowalski: that's the s say that's David Campbell: yeah. Kelly Kowalski: the squashy bit. Squashy. David Campbell: Yeah I was thinking of getting a cover for Kelly Kowalski: That see I was thinking David Campbell: Which is Kelly Kowalski: this David Campbell: cheaper. Kelly Kowalski: s sorry David Campbell: Well I don't know if it's cheaper Kelly Kowalski: I was Adolfo Tanner: Oh. Kelly Kowalski: thinking David Campbell: actually. Adolfo Tanner: Mm. Kelly Kowalski: this bit here would be the cover and like that's your actual George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: thing. And like this George Perez: Oh I like Kelly Kowalski: you George Perez: that Kelly Kowalski: could have George Perez: shape. Kelly Kowalski: like you could have like cherries and George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: things around there. Um Adolfo Tanner: I was thinking Kelly Kowalski: but Adolfo Tanner: sort of a single ball shape. Kelly Kowalski: I George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: was thinking if Adolfo Tanner: So Kelly Kowalski: it Adolfo Tanner: you're Kelly Kowalski: was Adolfo Tanner: holding Kelly Kowalski: like this Adolfo Tanner: a Kelly Kowalski: 'cause Adolfo Tanner: squishy Kelly Kowalski: the way Adolfo Tanner: ball Kelly Kowalski: you were Adolfo Tanner: and Kelly Kowalski: describing Adolfo Tanner: then it has a Kelly Kowalski: the the iPod and the thi the roll thingy George Perez: It's like it Adolfo Tanner: Mm-hmm. George Perez: has to be s yeah. Kelly Kowalski: It's almost like your thumb is farther up, Adolfo Tanner: Yeah I guess so. Kelly Kowalski: it lower George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: then David Campbell: Yeah. So it wouldn't be very big in either like how big? This big, and then you just do that, George Perez: What Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, George Perez: if, yeah, Kelly Kowalski: I David Campbell: I Kelly Kowalski: know David Campbell: suppose. Kelly Kowalski: what George Perez: what Kelly Kowalski: you George Perez: if Kelly Kowalski: meant, George Perez: the squishy, Kelly Kowalski: yeah. George Perez: oh so so you're saying the squishy part's like detachable, and you can so so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing, and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice, you know? David Campbell: Well just a li I can't des like condom thingy, like a a cover. But well the question is, which one's easiest to change can just Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: contact our relevant department for that, and George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: just see what the cost is for covering that or covering George Perez: Yeah, David Campbell: that, George Perez: yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Mm. David Campbell: and for now we can do two prototypes maybe and then George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: hi try and ask users Kelly Kowalski: Okay. David Campbell: what the best is, and Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: No. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. George Perez: Oh. David Campbell: Um. That's nicer. I think it's George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: nicer to have a drawing 'cause it's neater. Kelly Kowalski: Hmm. David Campbell: Um. Kelly Kowalski: Well that's not very neat, but George Perez: Yeah. I mean I think uh and I think the handhe I think the handheld part is definitely So you could make that into the fruit and vegetable part. David Campbell: If it's a bit like those juggling balls, you can change shape according to your to the way you hold Adolfo Tanner: Yeah David Campbell: it. Kelly Kowalski: Mm-hmm. David Campbell: If Adolfo Tanner: you could David Campbell: it's Adolfo Tanner: squish David Campbell: got sand Adolfo Tanner: it. David Campbell: in it maybe, or something, Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: you it it just moulds to your hand. George Perez: Yeah. So where are the fruit and vegetables now? David Campbell: We George Perez: Fruits David Campbell: we don't George Perez: and veg. Adolfo Tanner: I David Campbell: know. Adolfo Tanner: guess they would be either in the colour of that plastic George Perez: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: face on Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. Adolfo Tanner: the front, or in the colour of the squishy thing underneath. David Campbell: Yeah. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: And the rest is the company the company colour's silver? Kelly Kowalski: It was, yeah, silver and yellow. It l it looks like I don't George Perez: We could David Campbell: Okay. George Perez: promote the banana one. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: Like mm. Kelly Kowalski: I mean that's another question, where are we gonna we we should have the logo somewhere on it. George Perez: Mm. David Campbell: Mm-hmm. Should also fit the batteries, which we haven't George Perez: Oh Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. George Perez: yeah. Adolfo Tanner: I think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic Kelly Kowalski: Yeah, Adolfo Tanner: case. George Perez: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: th and that would David Campbell: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: Especially if Kelly Kowalski: that Adolfo Tanner: you're switching out the squishy part. Then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off. David Campbell: Mm-hmm. Kelly Kowalski: Mm-hmm. George Perez: Yeah, I think, um it'd be interesting to have the b the squishy bit. The part that you, yeah, can change into the different, you know, trendy vegetables and fruits. But uh Adolfo Tanner: Well I dunno. George Perez: it Adolfo Tanner: You'd spend so much time like squishing it to your own personal hand. Then you'd get a new one and you'd have to do it all over again. George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: No but it does it automatically. Does it automatically? George Perez: Yeah. David Campbell: I don't know. Kelly Kowalski: I don't know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for David Campbell. David Campbell: Okay. Kelly Kowalski: But if someone components concept. Question mark. Energy. Question Adolfo Tanner: That was David Campbell. Kelly Kowalski: mark. Was that you? Adolfo Tanner: Yes. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. Oh right right. Yeah. Um, so what d but what do we know about energy? I mean we're gonna use batteries right? And Adolfo Tanner: which is something I don't know what it is. Something David Campbell: Oh, Adolfo Tanner: to David Campbell: a dynamo Adolfo Tanner: do with torches. David Campbell: is ah, it's a bicycle. It's a bicycle mechanism. It's the en it's like if if something moves, Adolfo Tanner: Oh David Campbell: when Adolfo Tanner: okay. David Campbell: it moves, Adolfo Tanner: Yeah, David Campbell: it Adolfo Tanner: the other David Campbell: stores Adolfo Tanner: one was David Campbell: energy. Adolfo Tanner: the other one was a kinetic thing where you'd basically have to wind it yourself. So David Campbell: It's quite sweet. Adolfo Tanner: I sort of picked battery. We could have talked about doing a wind-up or a dynamo or a solar power. Um but I think solar power's not available with the rubber case anyways. Kelly Kowalski: I think batteries Adolfo Tanner: It Kelly Kowalski: sound good. What does Adolfo Tanner: it David Campbell: No. Kelly Kowalski: everyone Adolfo Tanner: seems Kelly Kowalski: else Adolfo Tanner: a little Kelly Kowalski: think? Adolfo Tanner: weird for George Perez: The dynamo Adolfo Tanner: a living room George Perez: would Adolfo Tanner: anyways. George Perez: be interesting. David Campbell: But dynamo the the fact with dynamo is, the moment you move it, it c it creates energy on its own. George Perez: Oh. Kelly Kowalski: What about Kryptonite? David Campbell: Which is quite cool. So if you throw it, it's gonna store loads of energy, and you don't need to buy a battery 'cause they're quite f I find them annoying. But we need to find cost. Kelly Kowalski: Yeah. David Campbell: Don't know the cost. Adolfo Tanner: Didn't have David Campbell: Does Adolfo Tanner: enough David Campbell: anyone Adolfo Tanner: data David Campbell: have Adolfo Tanner: to actually David Campbell: costs on the on the Adolfo Tanner: All David Campbell: web? Adolfo Tanner: it said was it gave sort of relative, some chips are more expensive than others, sort of things. It didn't give David Campbell any actual David Campbell: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: cost. David Campbell: Right. George Perez: Hmm. David Campbell: Mm. Adolfo Tanner: Most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk. So I don't think it's that much of a problem. Like the chip is probably the most expensive part. Kelly Kowalski: What does chip on print mean? Adolfo Tanner: Um, for things like remote controls, um, they stamp out a chip, Kelly Kowalski: Uh-huh. Adolfo Tanner: calculators too I think. Um, so you can mass produce 'em pretty cheap. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. Adolfo Tanner: But it's not like a computer, you can't like reprogramme your remo remote controls, it's like Kelly Kowalski: Right. Adolfo Tanner: stamped onto the chip. Kelly Kowalski: So, chip on print is just means like that they're mass-produced. Adolfo Tanner: Yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Okay. And case? Uh I guess Adolfo Tanner: Case Kelly Kowalski: that's Adolfo Tanner: is Kelly Kowalski: what Adolfo Tanner: what Kelly Kowalski: we've Adolfo Tanner: we Kelly Kowalski: been Adolfo Tanner: were Kelly Kowalski: talking Adolfo Tanner: discussing Kelly Kowalski: about, yeah. Adolfo Tanner: yeah. Kelly Kowalski: Casing. Yeah. thinking of like syntactic case and thi um let's see. Is there anything else we need to George Perez: Hmm. Kelly Kowalski: talk about? Oh when we move on, you two are going to be playing with play-dough. Um, and working on the look and feel of the design and user interface design. And you're gonna be doing protu product evaluation. So you'll get mm m more instructions from your personal coach. David Campbell: Oh, thank Kelly Kowalski: Mm. George Perez: Cool. David Campbell: you. Kelly Kowalski: See you soon. Does it matter that I end early? David Campbell: I it's strange because Kelly Kowalski: How how early is it? I didn't get a pop-up thing that said

Kelly Kowalski reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Adolfo Tanner gave her presentation on components and discussed which would have to be custom-made and which were standard. She also discussed the various materials and chips available. David Campbell presented current trends in the market and in fashion. She discussed the current fruits and vegetables trend and the trend toward softer, spongier materials. George Perez discussed the look of the remote with the group. They discussed including a touch-based graphical user interface but noted that it was unnecessary and costly. They discussed using the menu function on the television instead. The group discussed how the menu function would be programmed. The group then talked about the casing of the device, and decided that there would be a changeable outer casing. They discussed including fruit colors in addition to the company colors. Some part of the casing will be made of a spongy material. The group also discussed energy source options and chips. Kelly Kowalski instructed George Perez and Adolfo Tanner to construct the prototype and David Campbell to work on the prototype evaluation.

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Antonio Cooper: 'Kay. Hmm. Okay everybody. Welcome to the design meeting. Um Let's see. Our agenda. Last time we discussed the squishy fruitiness of our remote controls and how we might pursue that. Um and I think looks like we've come up with some ideas. Um and we also talked about materials we'd use and what kind of chip would be necessary. Um so for later in the meeting I've done a a spreadsheet of production costs so we'll take a look at that. and see it's changed all when we last discussed it. Um so actually I think Yeah um f you guys wanna give a prototype presentation of Johnny Carpenter: Okay well um. So our design looks something like this. This being the wheel that you use to uh change channels or volume or whatever. This is a button, serves as the power button if you hold it down, and if you just tap on it I think it brings up the menu. And uh the base of the remote control, which has a squishy spongy rubbery feel, is interchangeable. So you can change the colour, according to your to suit your living room or whatever. And Richard Lynch: You could Johnny Carpenter: it comes Richard Lynch: change the vegetable, Johnny Carpenter: yeah, I can change Richard Lynch: or fruit. Johnny Carpenter: the vegetable. Antonio Cooper: Oh is that broccoli? Johnny Carpenter: This Richard Lynch: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: one's broccoli. So this snaps off and you can put on whichever one you want. This is not to scale 'cause it would have the battery inside it. This is a mango. The it's trendy fruit, it's not just ordinary fruits. You don't have orange, you have mango. Um I guess strawberry's not as Antonio Cooper: 'S Johnny Carpenter: trendy, Antonio Cooper: a very Johnny Carpenter: but Antonio Cooper: bright strawberry. Johnny Carpenter: So we'll come up with a variety of trendy and exciting fruit designs for the remote control. Richard Lynch: It's Johnny Carpenter: And then Richard Lynch: been Johnny Carpenter: people Richard Lynch: a Johnny Carpenter: will Richard Lynch: l Johnny Carpenter: be encouraged to buy three or five of them, because they'll need to switch 'em out. Richard Lynch: It's been a little bit difficult to um make sure that it's hand-holdable, and that the user can use it, you know, it's not too big. Uh but we think that this you know, this size will be okay and we will have to fit the battery case in there Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. Richard Lynch: somehow. Antonio Cooper: Oh Richard Lynch: And Antonio Cooper: yeah. Richard Lynch: I guess the only other thing that we really didn't talk about was or design actually, would be the thing the locator. How how so Johnny Carpenter: Well the locator is just chip that's inside there. Richard Lynch: Okay so that's just Johnny Carpenter: And the beeper's also inside there too somewhere. Richard Lynch: So you have to have a button on your on your you have to attach the button to the Johnny Carpenter: Yeah we didn't design that. Richard Lynch: Yeah we have that that has yes yet Johnny Carpenter: But Richard Lynch: to Johnny Carpenter: it Richard Lynch: be Johnny Carpenter: would Richard Lynch: designed. Johnny Carpenter: be coordinating with that of course. Richard Lynch: Yeah that c Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: hey that that could you know match the handset. Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. Richard Lynch: You could have a broccoli, or you could have a mango. So. Tada. Antonio Cooper: Oh. Um if you wanna look in your project documents folder, there's an Excel spreadsheet. Um the only one that's in there, production costs. And if you open it up. Um I've just stuck the numbers in, it was a real challenge there. But if I missed anything that we've gone over, or if you see something that has changed I mean, we decided on batteries, and the regular chip would be necessary for the more advanced iPod-like button. Um I said uncurved or flat. I think that's what you have there, is that right? For the for the plastic part would be Johnny Carpenter: My impression was that flat meant like like one of those square remotes. But it's Antonio Cooper: Oh. Johnny Carpenter: really not very Antonio Cooper: Okay. Johnny Carpenter: clear, because you got single curve and double curve and Antonio Cooper: Right. Johnny Carpenter: d I dunno what that means. One side is curved and then the other side is curved. Antonio Cooper: Well yeah. If we're talking about the area just oh I d I dunno. I guess we'd have to contact the company that makes them and see. Um so what else? There's plastic for that area around the button. Um and then rubber would be the squishy like thing right? Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. Antonio Cooper: Um and lots of special colours actually. Uh scroll wheel. Do you see anything that I've missed? Johnny Carpenter: No I think that's alright. Antonio Cooper: Okay so that would make our total of eleven point nine, which is even less than twelve point five, which means we'd be making even more of a profit. And if we sold a lot of squishy things. Richard Lynch: Mm. Antonio Cooper: Boo yeah. Okay. S So Mm. Antonio Cooper: Did y what did you work on? The David Fox: Um evaluation criteria. Antonio Cooper: Okay. Do you wanna David Fox: I've got a presentation Antonio Cooper: Okay. I think David Fox: So I need Antonio Cooper: that's David Fox: where's the cable? David Fox: Right what happens is we have to um decide whether this this whole this whole project we've been working on actually um meets the standards we were set at the start. Um. Right. This doesn't okay. Um the method is we well I've analysed the user requirements and integrated them to the trends found in marketing reports and in our company strategy marketing. And um findings were that we need it a way, a way, and this is everything's listed down. Um, look in a certain way, feel in a certain way, it has to be technologically innovative and it has to be easy to use. These are all things we looked at at the start, um and criteria that have to be met. We have to use a table, I'll show you that later, together to decide whether it meets the standards. And we we have therefore in total um We have five we have eleven points according to which this should be evaluated. And um the cri well basically the findings are the same as the evaluation criteria. I would like to show you the table we have to use. Um. No. This is the table. Can you see this here? Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. David Fox: Um so the que the questions I've given you c could you write that down? True is one and and false is seven. And we'll just go through each point together, hopefully. Um. I think if each of us gives an opinion then they can be mixed somehow. I dunno how it works exactly, I haven't Richard Lynch: Yeah. David Fox: been told. Richard Lynch: Is it possible that we can bring this up on our own David Fox: Yeah it's in the um it's in the project documents. Richard Lynch: Is it meeting three minutes? No it's not David Fox: It's Richard Lynch: minutes. David Fox: called evaluation criteria. Richard Lynch: Okay. David Fox: And it's under evaluation. Antonio Cooper: Huh, the PowerPoint Johnny Carpenter: Hmm? Antonio Cooper: one? David Fox: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Okay. Cool. David Fox: You've found it all? Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: So it was um Yeah true's one. Richard Lynch: True's one and false is seven. David Fox: Do you want us to discuss this together or do you want us to do it singly? Antonio Cooper: Um we can do it separately and then discuss David Fox: Yeah okay. Antonio Cooper: it if if that's what people wanna do. Richard Lynch: So it's actually a scale. Antonio Cooper: Wait, one is true and David Fox: Um, Antonio Cooper: so these are the questions we're answering. David Fox: yes Antonio Cooper: And David Fox: it's Antonio Cooper: one is David Fox: if it's fancy you put one, Antonio Cooper: One, right David Fox: if Antonio Cooper: okay. David Fox: it's really unfancy it's seven. Antonio Cooper: If it's somewhere in between you put four. David Fox: Yeah, something. Richard Lynch: Okay. Antonio Cooper: Okay. Richard Lynch: Does it feel fancy? Johnny Carpenter: Feels like play-dough. Richard Lynch: No. David Fox: They shouldn't really be questions. Should be more like David Fox: Are the batteries easy to insert? Johnny Carpenter: I'm gonna say yes. David Fox: Yes? Very very true. Okay. Johnny Carpenter: I imagine they're somewhere on the front. We have a little case that you slip 'em in. David Fox: Okay. Antonio Cooper: Are we just about ready? David Fox: Apparently I'm supposed to use the whiteboard. Do we um is it necessary? Antonio Cooper: I don't think so. It's David Fox: We'll just do Antonio Cooper: yeah David Fox: um Antonio Cooper: the the marker thing kinda stopped working last time Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: we Richard Lynch: Okay. David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: Our animals David Fox: Okay. Antonio Cooper: will forever be there. Un unless you feel you need it t to David Fox: I don't feel any Antonio Cooper: okay okay. We'll David Fox: right um Right so one point one? We'll just go in a circle. Richard Lynch: One. Johnny Carpenter: 'Kay Five. David Fox: Right. Ooh I don't know. Right. One? Johnny Carpenter: Five. Antonio Cooper: Five. David Fox: Five. Two. Okay so do we just add it up and divide it by four? Is that what the company does? Antonio Cooper: I I think we should Johnny Carpenter: It's four if you wanna do that. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: Yeah? Johnny Carpenter: It adds Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: to sixteen, so that's four. David Fox: Oh no. It adds to thirteen. One five five two. Johnny Carpenter: Oh I thought she said five. Richard Lynch: Hmm. David Fox: One five five two is thirteen, over four for now. I think that's um next? Richard Lynch: Um three. Johnny Carpenter: Six. Antonio Cooper: Six. David Fox: Really? Richard Lynch: Yeah. David Fox: Two. Antonio Cooper: I wasn't David Fox: Uh-oh. Antonio Cooper: cheating I swear. David Fox: Right. One point three is Richard Lynch: So it's a one was true and seven was false? Johnny Carpenter: Huh? Antonio Cooper: Uh. David Fox: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Okay, so you guys really didn't like it? David Fox: I Antonio Cooper: Oh David Fox: really Johnny Carpenter: Wait Antonio Cooper: I thought Johnny Carpenter: a minute. Antonio Cooper: it was the other way round. Johnny Carpenter: I thought it was the other way round too. David Fox: Well Antonio Cooper: So we do have about David Fox: uh Antonio Cooper: the Johnny Carpenter: Sh Antonio Cooper: same thing, we just have it the other Johnny Carpenter: Yeah Antonio Cooper: way Johnny Carpenter: I David Fox: Yeah yeah. It was Johnny Carpenter: I was David Fox: one Johnny Carpenter: thinking David Fox: is Johnny Carpenter: one David Fox: true Johnny Carpenter: means no David Fox: and Johnny Carpenter: points, you know, David Fox: false Johnny Carpenter: all the way David Fox: is Johnny Carpenter: up David Fox: seven. Johnny Carpenter: to the top. David Fox: I should've kept the table up. Antonio Cooper: Oh Johnny Carpenter: I'll just Antonio Cooper: gosh. Okay. Johnny Carpenter: I'll just Antonio Cooper: Well Johnny Carpenter: reverse them all. It's no problem. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: Right, well I'm glad this came out. Richard Lynch: I was like, why did you guys design it that David Fox: Yeah. Richard Lynch: way if you hated Johnny Carpenter: I thought Richard Lynch: it? Johnny Carpenter: you guys hated it. David Fox: No. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Yeah. David Fox: Oh that's quite funny. Johnny Carpenter: Okay. David Fox: Okay. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: Okay. So, starting again, one point one? Richard Lynch: One. Johnny Carpenter: Say two. Antonio Cooper: Three. David Fox: Two. Okay, one point two? Richard Lynch: Uh three. Johnny Carpenter: Two. Antonio Cooper: Two. David Fox: Two. Okay. Um, one point three? Richard Lynch: One. Antonio Cooper: One. Johnny Carpenter: One. David Fox: Ha. Two point one? Richard Lynch: Uh Antonio Cooper: Two. Richard Lynch: two. Johnny Carpenter: Uh two. Antonio Cooper: Two point I think I missed two. Wait, is that two point one? Johnny Carpenter: Yeah I put it David Fox: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: down as one point four Antonio Cooper: One David Fox: Oh Johnny Carpenter: for Antonio Cooper: point Johnny Carpenter: some David Fox: dear, Antonio Cooper: four, Johnny Carpenter: reason. Antonio Cooper: one point five. David Fox: okay. Antonio Cooper: Okay right David Fox: Sorry. Antonio Cooper: that's I have two of them. Johnny Carpenter: Mine has all kinds of David Fox: Two Johnny Carpenter: problems. David Fox: and one. Sorry about that. T two point two, which is one point five. Antonio Cooper: One. Johnny Carpenter: Uh three. Wait why did I put three? Richard Lynch: Uh one. Johnny Carpenter: I meant David Fox: Okay. Johnny Carpenter: one on mine too. David Fox: Three point one. Is that correct on my Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: slide? Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Yeah. David Fox: Yeah? Richard Lynch: Uh one. Johnny Carpenter: Three point one. I have four. Antonio Cooper: Three. David Fox: One, four, three, three, three point two? Johnny Carpenter: Three. Antonio Cooper: Three. Richard Lynch: Uh. One. David Fox: Three point three. Richard Lynch: One. Johnny Carpenter: One. Antonio Cooper: Two. David Fox: Four point one? Richard Lynch: One. Johnny Carpenter: Two. Antonio Cooper: Five. David Fox: Two. Four point two. Richard Lynch: Two. Johnny Carpenter: Three. Antonio Cooper: Four. David Fox: Two and four point three. Johnny Carpenter: Two. David Fox: One, two. Richard Lynch: One. Antonio Cooper: Two. David Fox: Right so I put one on that. Okay I'll um I'll just do the calculations now if you want to continue. Antonio Cooper: Okay. David Fox: Or is Antonio Cooper: Um David Fox: it tedious? I'm I'm sorry this was so tedious Antonio Cooper: No David Fox: for Antonio Cooper: no David Fox: everyone. Antonio Cooper: that's um David Fox: I didn't Antonio Cooper: I David Fox: know Antonio Cooper: think David Fox: how Antonio Cooper: we David Fox: else Antonio Cooper: should David Fox: to do Antonio Cooper: look at David Fox: it. Antonio Cooper: the ones that like where s where people said four, where um it looks like we might wanna discuss changing an aspect of the remote. David Fox: Okay. Well the worst ones were three point one. Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. David Fox: Do does every ones have the slide? Three point Antonio Cooper: The David Fox: one. Antonio Cooper: that was material. David Fox: Slide show. Material technologically innovative, okay. Antonio Cooper: Mm. David Fox: Um, do you want to change it? What are the suggestions? I don't know, anyone? Antonio Cooper: Um Richard Lynch: Which one is that again sorry? Three point one? Antonio Cooper: Mm-hmm. David Fox: Yeah that it's three point one was not that good. Four point one. Antonio Cooper: Does the shape David Fox: The shape. Richard Lynch: I think David Fox: Four point two? Antonio Cooper: See I'm having I'm having trouble imagining the is it uh gonna be the size, like the the controller? It Johnny Carpenter: I think Antonio Cooper: or Johnny Carpenter: the Antonio Cooper: bigger? Johnny Carpenter: wheel would probably be mm. Antonio Cooper: Because Richard Lynch: What if we just smash all the vegetables down flat? And like then it you could hold it in your hand better. Johnny Carpenter: I think the base would definitely be larger, 'cause some of these are not as easy to hold. They're Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: kinda smallish. Antonio Cooper: No but I imagine even if it was bigger, like if it's round and it's big then you you can't get Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: that's why remote controls Richard Lynch: The Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. Richard Lynch: flat Antonio Cooper: are long Richard Lynch: one. Antonio Cooper: because Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: you have that thumb kind of so c they could all be bananas and cucumbers. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: Um but I don't s I I personally don't think this is comfortable Richard Lynch: I didn't Antonio Cooper: to to Richard Lynch: yeah. Antonio Cooper: sit there, like it's Richard Lynch: But Antonio Cooper: an Richard Lynch: like Antonio Cooper: awkward Richard Lynch: if if Antonio Cooper: position. Richard Lynch: you just squash them flat like and you made it flat Johnny Carpenter: Well if they're that s uh stress ball stuff they would be pretty squishable. Richard Lynch: But it's Johnny Carpenter: Mm. Richard Lynch: still too big I think, in your Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: hand. Yeah. Antonio Cooper: And would it even resemble fruit that way? I mean Richard Lynch: Yeah like certain ones you'd have to limit the fruit selection, Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: like you could probably do a strawberry still. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I think the broccoli would be out. You could do, although the broccoli is quite comfortable, I have to say, like sorta Antonio Cooper: Yeah Richard Lynch: like Antonio Cooper: that Richard Lynch: a joystick. Antonio Cooper: I I when you were holding David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: that before, it David Fox: That Antonio Cooper: actually David Fox: looked Antonio Cooper: looked David Fox: really good. Antonio Cooper: yeah. Richard Lynch: I don't know. So David Fox: Are there any fruits that look like broccoli, no? Richard Lynch: Uh. Johnny Carpenter: Not that I can think of. Rhubarb. Richard Lynch: Rhubarb. These obscure David Fox: I think Richard Lynch: fruits. David Fox: that broccoli is my favourite actually. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: Uh despite the Richard Lynch: I think we Antonio Cooper: What Richard Lynch: needn't Antonio Cooper: if um the it was just patterns on like we we chose the shape or the sh shape could be whatever we wanted and then it would just be like a design on the rubber. Richard Lynch: Huh? Antonio Cooper: You Richard Lynch: Oh Antonio Cooper: know Richard Lynch: okay. Antonio Cooper: like like Johnny Carpenter: So Antonio Cooper: just Johnny Carpenter: it's just Antonio Cooper: a Johnny Carpenter: colour, Antonio Cooper: printed Johnny Carpenter: and not Antonio Cooper: yeah Johnny Carpenter: necessarily Antonio Cooper: or Johnny Carpenter: the shape Antonio Cooper: coloured Johnny Carpenter: of a strawberry. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: yeah. Richard Lynch: That could work. David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: Or I mean we could even have fruit like around Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: I mean Richard Lynch: Yeah. I dunno. Antonio Cooper: But David Fox: Yeah Antonio Cooper: if David Fox: and Antonio Cooper: we David Fox: just Antonio Cooper: if David Fox: have the Antonio Cooper: we David Fox: colour Antonio Cooper: need David Fox: match or something. Antonio Cooper: yeah. And if we wanna incorporate the fruit thing somehow, there might be I mean if it if it in if it uh conflicts with the comfort of actually holdi holding Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: the Richard Lynch: 'Cause yeah no-one wants to hold a remote that's uncomfortable obviously. Antonio Cooper: Mm. David Fox: Mm. Richard Lynch: Or like I dunno, some of 'em you can kind of think see as like like you could if it was only this you know, if it was shaped like that, and it just had that. But you see the problem Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: is you have to attach that, and this has to be detachable. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: So like maybe that's just too Antonio Cooper: Well Richard Lynch: big Antonio Cooper: see th Richard Lynch: because Antonio Cooper: the reason the broccoli works is you can kinda hold it like that, Richard Lynch: Yeah Antonio Cooper: which is Richard Lynch: it's David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: a Richard Lynch: sorta Antonio Cooper: nice Richard Lynch: like Antonio Cooper: kind Richard Lynch: a joystick. Antonio Cooper: of yeah. But Richard Lynch: I dunno. I guess Antonio Cooper: I mean is there some way we could make it this kind of shape? 'Cause like Johnny Carpenter: We Antonio Cooper: kind Johnny Carpenter: could make Antonio Cooper: of Johnny Carpenter: it that shape but just have different colours, Antonio Cooper: Yeah, Johnny Carpenter: and call Richard Lynch: Yeah. David Fox: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: 'em the Antonio Cooper: yeah. Johnny Carpenter: different fruits. Antonio Cooper: Or Richard Lynch: Dif Antonio Cooper: like Johnny Carpenter: We Antonio Cooper: even Johnny Carpenter: went with shape because we were having Antonio Cooper: Or Johnny Carpenter: fun Antonio Cooper: even Johnny Carpenter: with the play-dough. Antonio Cooper: like Yeah like you said, like a joystick like that. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: You know? Richard Lynch: Yeah. Like uh we could do I'm trying to think of other sha like fruits that are oddly shaped. Antonio Cooper: 'Cause that, I think I mean that fits the whole round iPod idea. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: Mm-hmm. Antonio Cooper: And David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: you still have the comfort of holding it like that. Richard Lynch: Mm. Antonio Cooper: And you could like if it's like this, you could put fruit designs and stuff on Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: that Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: part. Richard Lynch: Alright. Antonio Cooper: But I mean it do we have any other ideas about that? David Fox: Um Richard Lynch: We could tr I don't know. David Fox: Think the critical ones came out to be yeah that one. Batteries easy to insert for some reason, which can be easily I think that's not a problem Antonio Cooper: The David Fox: any Antonio Cooper: batteries are Johnny Carpenter: That Antonio Cooper: going David Fox: more. Johnny Carpenter: everyone gave that a one or a two. Antonio Cooper: in the back? Johnny Carpenter: Yeah David Fox: No. Johnny Carpenter: they'd probably be either on the front or the side of Antonio Cooper: The reason Johnny Carpenter: the remote. Antonio Cooper: I I ga I didn't give it a one I think I gave it a three because I thought you'd have to like unc Johnny Carpenter: No Antonio Cooper: clip no Johnny Carpenter: I imagine Antonio Cooper: you could Johnny Carpenter: there'd be sort of a hatch Antonio Cooper: Just Johnny Carpenter: door, Antonio Cooper: like any other one. Johnny Carpenter: yeah um Antonio Cooper: Okay. Johnny Carpenter: like on a normal remote. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Right. Johnny Carpenter: So it would probably either in the f no it can't be in the front 'cause the I_R_'s right there, but it'd be on one of the sides probably. Antonio Cooper: Okay. David Fox: I think everyone's under three anyway. Antonio Cooper: Mm. David Fox: So I think it's yeah those are the only two points. Richard Lynch: Cool. Well Yeah the broccoli I guess wins. David Fox: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: Yeah I'd agree with changing the shape. Um, Antonio Cooper: Okay. Johnny Carpenter: I was just having fun making strawberries and stuff. Richard Lynch: We were a bit off task. Um so uh I can't think of any So we'll have to like Mm. Yeah I dunno. You could make the touch pad in th in different shapes, but then that kind of re-designs the whole project like, but you could do Johnny Carpenter: It might Richard Lynch: like Johnny Carpenter: also sort of annoy people if we get used to having the buttons Richard Lynch: Yeah Johnny Carpenter: in Richard Lynch: that's Johnny Carpenter: one shape. Richard Lynch: true. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: And it would probably cost more to produce, Richard Lynch: Yeah that's Antonio Cooper: 'cause Richard Lynch: true. Antonio Cooper: they're irregular. Richard Lynch: Mm. Johnny Carpenter: I bet having different colours is a lot cheaper than having different shapes too. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Which is why printing might be like just printing the fruit on fruit. Richard Lynch: Hmm. Antonio Cooper: Mm. Antonio Cooper: Not really Well we've done finance evaluation criteria, production evaluation. Um so project evaluation. David Fox: Do you want this and we can all No. Antonio Cooper: I guess we're supposed to discuss um the prod the process of the project and how satisfied oh, oh it's alright. Uh. David Fox: It's alright yeah? Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Um Did you feel there was a lot of room for creativity in the sort of Johnny Carpenter: Sure. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I did. David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: I mean fruit and squishiness. How c more creative Johnny Carpenter: Sponginess. Antonio Cooper: can you get? Richard Lynch: The prototype making was very creatively stimulating and I think we've come up with a product that's fun and meets all the criteria. Antonio Cooper: And how was our leadership and teamwork? Johnny Carpenter: I think it was good. We knew what we were doing. It was a very democratic process and everyone got to contribute. Antonio Cooper: Well I thought my leadership was crap personally. Excuse David Fox, Johnny Carpenter: Well Antonio Cooper: am Johnny Carpenter: you Antonio Cooper: I allowed Johnny Carpenter: told Antonio Cooper: to Johnny Carpenter: us Antonio Cooper: say Johnny Carpenter: when Antonio Cooper: that? Johnny Carpenter: to start and when to end, and that's all Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: that matters. Antonio Cooper: Um. Richard Lynch: I think you were fine. You did Antonio Cooper: Yeah, Richard Lynch: a good job leading. Antonio Cooper: well I'm never gonna do a management position, I know that now. Um yeah, I thought we all worked very David Fox: Yeah Antonio Cooper: well David Fox: we didn't Antonio Cooper: together. David Fox: we uh it all c sort of blended Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: quite Richard Lynch: Yeah David Fox: well. Richard Lynch: I think it more than anything we didn't really have our set roles so much, as we just would be like Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I don't know, all had ideas Antonio Cooper: Very democratic. Richard Lynch: about it but yeah. Antonio Cooper: No spats, that was good. Richard Lynch: No. Antonio Cooper: Um and the means for like the materials we used, how convenient were they? Like the the pens, the whiteboard, I mean Johnny Carpenter: Well I'm not Antonio Cooper: we Johnny Carpenter: a Antonio Cooper: used Johnny Carpenter: big fan of any Microsoft, PowerPoint or any Antonio Cooper: Are you Johnny Carpenter: of Antonio Cooper: a Johnny Carpenter: this Antonio Cooper: Mac Johnny Carpenter: stuff. Antonio Cooper: person? Johnny Carpenter: No no I never touch Macs either. I just use the Unix or the off market, sort of WordPerfect and all these other things. Antonio Cooper: Huh. Richard Lynch: Hmm. David Fox: Which isn't very user-friendly Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. David Fox: though. Johnny Carpenter: Well the problem is if you don't like my new computer never has WordPerfect so I have to go track someone down who has an old disk and then I have to reinstall it. So I have all these documents I can't use now. But yeah I mean I guess it's okay. Richard Lynch: I felt like my I dunno if it was just my role, but l but uh I di I thought that my the information that was available to David Fox was kind of just like or maybe it was just the idea that we had. But there's kinda it was kinda like okay, I don't really think I dunno what I'm doing here. Antonio Cooper: Mm. Richard Lynch: So I didn't really think it was helpful. So I kind of just made up my own stuff and I Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: didn't really like the PowerPoint presentations, so I kind of wrote a lot of notes instead. But Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: yeah I d I don't really like PowerPoint personally, think it's kinda Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. Richard Lynch: stupid. Johnny Carpenter: I never use it. Richard Lynch: Yeah but uh Antonio Cooper: I can't say I found everything particularly helpful. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: Like Richard Lynch: It didn't Antonio Cooper: I Richard Lynch: really Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. Richard Lynch: yeah. Antonio Cooper: It David Fox: I Johnny Carpenter: My first David Fox: though it Johnny Carpenter: bit David Fox: was Johnny Carpenter: of information David Fox: brilliant Johnny Carpenter: was David Fox: no? Johnny Carpenter: like Antonio Cooper: Really? Johnny Carpenter: this child's drawn picture of how a remote works. David Fox: No mine was really helpful as in my stuff was quite helpful I think. Richard Lynch: So Antonio Cooper: I Richard Lynch: like David Fox: I Antonio Cooper: mean Richard Lynch: a f David Fox: think it Antonio Cooper: m my David Fox: depends Antonio Cooper: problem David Fox: on the role no? Richard Lynch: Yeah Antonio Cooper: yeah, Richard Lynch: I Johnny Carpenter: Yeah Richard Lynch: think so. Johnny Carpenter: it probably does. Antonio Cooper: yeah. 'Cause my problem was, you guys had access to like they'd put send you to sites and stuff right? Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: See I couldn't do that, so I didn't really know what you guys were doing. And when you were talking about it I was just like you know that's wh that's why I seemed so ignorant when when you were j explaining things, 'cause I Johnny Carpenter: Yeah well mine was mostly made up except when they told David Fox like you know titanium costs more than Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: wood to make a remote control. David Fox: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: you'd Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: wanted to. David Fox: But it must have been quite difficult for them to build a whole um Antonio Cooper: System. David Fox: a whole system, Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: 'cause of course they can't give you uh uh anything comparable to the internet for Richard Lynch: Yeah David Fox: the Richard Lynch: I mean, Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: Well I think Richard Lynch: it Johnny Carpenter: it's interesting how it all went together, like I had the stuff about how David Fox how rubber's cheap, and you have how David Fox: Yeah, Johnny Carpenter: people David Fox: yeah. Johnny Carpenter: want it to be spongy, and Antonio Cooper: Yeah, huh. Johnny Carpenter: It seems planned you know. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: Yeah I kinda thought that um I felt like I would go and like try to use my information, stupid little presentation and then like I just would end up talking about something completely unrelated because I dunno Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I felt like I was off-task all the time. But um Antonio Cooper: Well I mean we really got into talking about like personal practicalit like it wasn't necessarily what was like we would never have thought of fruit or sponginess David Fox: No. Antonio Cooper: you know? Richard Lynch: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: So Johnny Carpenter: If Antonio Cooper: it's Johnny Carpenter: I hadn't been told that fruit was David Fox: But I think that it it might be to see whether people actually all come up with the same Antonio Cooper: Oh David Fox: thing. Antonio Cooper: right. given certain information or David Fox: Yeah, Antonio Cooper: Just David Fox: like Antonio Cooper: yeah. David Fox: if everyone's given the same input I don't have a clue, Antonio Cooper: Mm, David Fox: anyway. Um Antonio Cooper: mm. David Fox: what's next? Looks like oh no that's not um It's Antonio Cooper: What David Fox: quite Antonio Cooper: do you guys think of the pens? It asks Johnny Carpenter: They're Antonio Cooper: about Johnny Carpenter: pretty Antonio Cooper: that. Johnny Carpenter: cool. Antonio Cooper: Mm. Johnny Carpenter: They're Richard Lynch: I Johnny Carpenter: kinda Richard Lynch: wanna s Johnny Carpenter: hard to write with though. Antonio Cooper: Yeah David Fox: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: and I I've f forgotten once or twice to check the box. Richard Lynch: I I'd like to see what what it looks like on the Johnny Carpenter: They're nicer than the pen that I'm using, because like your stuff actually shows up here, rather than having to look at the screen and write. Antonio Cooper: Mm. Johnny Carpenter: But even so, I dunno. Antonio Cooper: And new ideas found? David Fox: Yeah it's all very new, Antonio Cooper: Yeah. David Fox: no? It's all very new. Richard Lynch: Yeah I think I'd like to um I dunno. Like David Fox: Sorry. Richard Lynch: it was the I think the microphones are okay when you're sitting down, but like they're kinda clumsy I guess Johnny Carpenter: Oh Richard Lynch: when Johnny Carpenter: yeah. Richard Lynch: you're like when you're s going up to the whiteboard like. Johnny Carpenter: Well they drop off if you like move too much. Richard Lynch: Yeah I dunno. But they're Johnny Carpenter: But I don't Richard Lynch: they're Johnny Carpenter: think Richard Lynch: okay. Johnny Carpenter: we're supposed to be testing these microphones. Maybe we are. I don't Antonio Cooper: Mm. Johnny Carpenter: know. Richard Lynch: Uh I think, and I think that uh all this technology like I guess some people must be interested in using it but I can't imagine finding it any more useful than like looking at someone's Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: notes, Johnny Carpenter: Well Richard Lynch: or Johnny Carpenter: the Richard Lynch: like Johnny Carpenter: thing is, Richard Lynch: I Johnny Carpenter: like Richard Lynch: dunno. Johnny Carpenter: I actually worked in a company, and I had a role and I had to go to meetings. And like the last thing I would have wanted would be to have to watch a video 'cause I missed a meeting. Like usually I missed meetings deliberately. There's just there's really not that much information that actually goes through a real meeting, Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: like when you're actually at a real meeting in a real company. Richard Lynch: Hm. Johnny Carpenter: It's mostly like rehashing old stuff. And you're sort of going over general stuff that Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: anybody who's sort of on task should already know. It's like the there's just really not a lot of information Antonio Cooper: Seems Johnny Carpenter: that goes Antonio Cooper: kind Johnny Carpenter: through. Antonio Cooper: of like an excessive Johnny Carpenter: It Antonio Cooper: reiteration. Johnny Carpenter: seems like way overkill. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: Like if I missed a meeting I could probably get it summed up in like one sentence. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: I wouldn't need to have to watch like a t two hour video with the sound and the transcript and Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I guess it would be it's gotta be worth it to I 'cause I'm just mostly curious about like what kind of person or like company would would really find it useful, 'cause can't really imagine, dunno. How about a p a? Um I dunno. Antonio Cooper: Well does anyone wanna talk about fruit more while we still have time? Any other David Fox: What Antonio Cooper: ideas David Fox: what's Antonio Cooper: for David Fox: the end? Are we are we supposed to um you supposed to write a report? Or we ending? Antonio Cooper: Um David Fox: Is that the end? Antonio Cooper: we still have time if there's any other input. I mean the I think we did really well personally, which is why we've you know, gone through this so quickly. 'Cause I mean we've all we all kind of agreed our product is satisfactory, it fits the budget, and it's trendy. Richard Lynch: Yeah. Antonio Cooper: So. Um. David Fox: End of meeting. You have to tell her, she Antonio Cooper: So I think that's all for today. David Fox: Okay we have to fill in all this stuff. Stuff stuff Richard Lynch: M David Fox: stuff. Richard Lynch: meeting adjourned. Antonio Cooper: Meeting adjourned. David Fox: Yeah. Johnny Carpenter: I think I've learned not to bring play-dough to meetings. Antonio Cooper: Yeah. Richard Lynch: I think it would be a good idea, I like it. Johnny Carpenter: It's hard enough to get people actually paying attention. Especially if you have food. Antonio Cooper: So I guess we're supposed to write final reports. 'Cause Johnny Carpenter: All of us? Antonio Cooper: I don't know. David Fox: Well there's al eight, Antonio Cooper: Hmm. David Fox: nine. Ooh. Oh ooh. Antonio Cooper: Hmm. Or is that just David Fox?

Antonio Cooper reviewed the minutes from the last meeting. Richard Lynch and Johnny Carpenter presented the prototype and displayed the changeable fruit- and vegetable-shaped covers. They discussed the locator function that will be designed at a later time. Antonio Cooper discussed the final production cost for the device, which totaled 11.9 Euros. David Fox led an evaluation of the prototype. Each participant rated the prototype according to the original criteria for the project. The group discussed the areas in which the prototype did not meet these goals. The group felt that the changeable fruit and vegetable shapes were uncomfortable to hold. The group decided to make changeable covers in fruit colors and designs and to use one uniform shape. The group discussed their experience on the project. They felt they worked well together and were creative. They complained that the meeting-room materials were difficult to use, and some complained that there was not enough information provided to them. Antonio Cooper instructed all participants to write a final report at the end of the meeting.

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Robert Guercio: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um development meetings for our our new television remote control. Uh this follows our very successful entry into the the consumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on, taking advantage of the uh the the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh uh feelings in in consumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that's possible for everybody, uh one that everybody wants, uh at a good price for the consumer and at a good price for the company. Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that. Um and uh b in no particular order because ev everybody is uh just Harold Seman: Mm. Robert Guercio: as vital to this project um I'll just go round th the table, Andrew, marketing, um m Kendra with the uh um designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrial design. Um. What's uh the the th th project is is here to do, is is to to get this this project up and moving, ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want, uh everybody has a contribution to make and uh everybody feel free to interrupt Harold Seman at any time to to say what you want to say. Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um everybody knows everybody else, everybody's worked for the the company for a while, if if an anybody feels that they need to say more about themselves please do, if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their their background so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh uh everybody's experience is please do so. Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves, in fact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you you're looking to make. So we'll start with Andrew. Harold Seman: Oh my name's Andrew I'm a I'm Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and uh project for this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what people want to want to uh get from this new design, what people want to like and from a fashion point of view and the practicality point of view. Robert Guercio: Right Kendra. Daniel Kennedy: I'm Kendra and I'm Us User Interface and um I haven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be working on the design. Robert Guercio: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so. Daniel Kennedy: Right. Yep, I'm just open to being creative. Robert Guercio: Yep, good. Michael Futrell: Uh I'm Katie, I'm Michael Futrell I'll just be I guess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh yeah. Robert Guercio: Okay, very very quickly, um this I don't want to make this meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank. Everybody says what they what they want to say, uh and we don't want to be constrained by uh kind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is what we want to do. The the remote control needs to be original, there has to be something about it that uh other remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different, uh I want one, um and that goes along with being trendy, uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario. User-friendly as as we all know, remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to make ours one that people can pick up and think oh yes that's it's obvious how that works, uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeah that's something that I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'm gonna have one. And last but not least, or indeed first of all, it it must make the company money, and we make the company money by producing what the consumer wants. The uh the further work to be done is i the um the functional design, uh what it uh what it must actually do, the uh conceptual design, uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get that into production. Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is the white board and uh uh let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the prompt slide here, um In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the the wires, that we don't do that, um So I I everybody knows what whiteboard is so we'll um uh we'll do a virtual drawing on the on on the whiteboard of of your your own uh uh favourite animal, but le let's go round the table, your favourite animal. Harold Seman: Um, badger. Robert Guercio: Mm and why? Harold Seman: Uh it's it's got nice contrast with Robert Guercio: Uh-huh. Harold Seman: black and white and uh and Robert Guercio: Oh Harold Seman: they're, Robert Guercio: right uh my Harold Seman: the Robert Guercio: my wife says my beard looks like a badger's arse 'cause of the the white streaks in it. Kendra. Daniel Kennedy: Um probably a duck I just I li I like the way they look and they're just nice animals and I like how they can fly or swim or walk around Robert Guercio: Uh-huh. Daniel Kennedy: or whatever. Robert Guercio: Right, okay. Michael Futrell: Uh 's horses, no particular reason why. Robert Guercio: Uh-huh, fair enough yeah. I'm not sure that I've got any favourite animal to be quite honest, I think homo sapien because of their their uh overall ability to uh uh Harold Seman: Make mobile phones and T_V_ remotes Robert Guercio: Sorry? Harold Seman: to make T_V_ remotes. Robert Guercio: Indeed absolutely yes, tha that's um Okay and uh w we need to keep in mind here that the uh we want to sell this for for twenty five Euro um, we want to m make an overall profit for the the company of fifty million Euros so we're we're looking at selling a lot of these um ag across the the entire planet and and we're looking at a gross profit of fifty percent. It needs to cost twelve Euros fifty to make Um. so we're not only looking at a a very trendy original product, we're looking at making it at a very good price. Um, okay, um would anybody like t like to to start by giving their o um sort of quick views of of current remote controls. Daniel Kennedy: Well to use with all the different buttons and uh it's handiest when you have one that works both the D_V_D_ player or whatever and the T_V_ as well. Um, but that it's easy to if you can switch back and forth instead of Robert Guercio: No. Daniel Kennedy: having to press a bunch of different buttons and so I think it's is best when they're clearly labelled and you can see which buttons you're supposed to use, you know. Robert Guercio: Any any thoughts about buttons or any oth other way of approaching the p the uh the problem? Or anybody else, strong feelings about remote controls? Are there you know, bad ones they've used or good ones they've used or ones Michael Futrell: Um Robert Guercio: that they've lost and never found again? Michael Futrell: I think it's important that you should be able to when you when you press the buttons it'll actually pick up the signals from kind of anywhere and you shouldn't have to like contort yourself Harold Seman: Yeah. Michael Futrell: the signal. Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Harold Seman: Think a lot of the time, remotes that come with T_V_ players and T_V_s and D_V_ Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: players, like they aren't like an area that's put a lot of effort into, they're very boring, very plain. Like it's Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: very a very like um making a a stylish remote control would be a very like Easily put us one step ahead of the current competition. Robert Guercio: Um what so wh what's in in what particular style features are you thinking about? Harold Seman: Um. Something that looks looks doesn't look like remote control. So if you want, something that looks like uh something that makes you think oh what's this? Like this pen doesn't really look like a pen, but it makes Robert Guercio: Uh-huh. Harold Seman: you think oh. So, sorry that's a bit vague. Robert Guercio: Yeah d no I mean do you think there's a risk if it doesn't look like remote control, people won't see it as a remote control um and uh Harold Seman: Uh I suppose suppose that's up to the marketing to to make make people aware of the product. Robert Guercio: Uh-huh. Any other thoughts about um th the physical appearance of a of remote controls? Daniel Kennedy: I think something that's comfortable to hold because sometimes you get the remote controls that are just those Michael Futrell: Mm. Daniel Kennedy: big, rectangular Harold Seman: Mm. Daniel Kennedy: things and uh they're kind of awkward to hold onto, so something that's more comfortable that fits in a person's hand better. Robert Guercio: I mean th the thing that i immediately comes to mind is computer mouses which Michael Futrell: Mm. Robert Guercio: um Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Harold Seman: Yeah. Robert Guercio: I mean y you get all sorts of shapes Michael Futrell: Mm. Robert Guercio: in the shops and s you know some quite fancy ones Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Robert Guercio: um than the some from personal experience which look nice but aren't particularly comfortable. Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Robert Guercio: Um any thoughts about buttons or flat screens or uh uh Harold Seman: Well from the mouse idea you could, remote is a piece of plastic with the big rubber buttons sticking out of it which you press, whereas if you want could all be flat and the buttons are very kind of almost subtle that instead of being raised out of the device uh you push into device you see, like a mouse button. Robert Guercio: Yes, I mean the only thing is if if you're watching television in a in a a darkened room Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: I suppose. Robert Guercio: um you need to be able to uh fi Harold Seman: Easily, yeah Robert Guercio: find Harold Seman: yeah. Robert Guercio: the button buttons easily. Daniel Kennedy: But maybe they could be concave instead of sticking up to have them be kind of down so you could feel them Harold Seman: Mm. Michael Futrell: Mm. Daniel Kennedy: better. Robert Guercio: Yeah, that's uh must admit I don't think I've ever seen one with concave buttons, that's uh certainly be different. Um do we need it to uh I can't think of any re remote controls that I know of that actually light up at all. Do we Daniel Kennedy: Oh yeah. Michael Futrell: Mm that Robert Guercio: do Michael Futrell: would Robert Guercio: we Michael Futrell: be Robert Guercio: want Michael Futrell: good. Robert Guercio: uh Daniel Kennedy: Like a like a mobile phone? Robert Guercio: Yeah. Michael Futrell: Mm. Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Harold Seman: Mm, Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: yeah that would be good. Robert Guercio: Okay. So, Andrew have you had any thoughts yet about how we might market something which there are already millions out there and that we want to uh uh uh t take over the entire um the planet with? Harold Seman: Mm-hmm, um especially if we try to sell, what two million of them. Oh sorry, four million of 'em, but uh I think if w if we market it as as not as not well this you c you could either market it as the point of view we could have the two we could have parallel marketing s schemes where you've got one where it appeals to people that want to have the new device that looks cool, Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: is fashionable and like you just it's it's like uh it's one that rather than ra I wan I want rather than a kind of a need relationship Robert Guercio: Mm-hmm. Harold Seman: with the device, but that might considering the act what the device is for and the nature of some people might not like respond to having a device that they just looks nice, therefore they want it so make it practical at the same time. I think it's this is gonna have to appeal to people that want device that can enhance their living room uh Robert Guercio: Mm-hmm. Harold Seman: but also a device that uh is practically sound. Robert Guercio: Mm-hmm. Harold Seman: So um, I dunno we'll have to decide which which angle we're gonna go to or both. Robert Guercio: Okay, Harold Seman: If you. Robert Guercio: yeah, yeah, well I d I think an any uh any facets that we identify w we aim need to aim for for all of. Harold Seman: Mm. Robert Guercio: Um okay well first thoughts on um the the industrial design side. Michael Futrell: Oh I think it's it's remote controls are kind of a unique object 'cause it's you depend on them so much, but you don't i i it's you sort of just assume they're always gonna work, you don't think of them as a comp like a computer can break down and you're kinda like oh well fair enough there's all these complex things going on, it's gonna something's gonna get messed up eventually. They they just need to be very very dependable because people sort of take them for granted and then if your remote control breaks it's God forbid you actually get up and manually change the channel Robert Guercio: Indeed. Michael Futrell: it just it needs to be very effective, very always dependable. Uh I don't think we should make it too small I 'cause I think it needs to it can't be too big like you were saying big an and huge and um awkward, but also if you make it too small kinda like you know how mobile phones are getting smaller and smaller um, it's just gonna end up under a couch cushion somewhere Robert Guercio: Yeah. Michael Futrell: and um yeah. But so yes dependable, and have a good medium range size. Robert Guercio: Okay, and um colours, materials? Kendra, anyone? Daniel Kennedy: Well, most I think most of the remote controls now are either just black or grey, so maybe we should go with something different or be able to I was just thinking of um what they're doing with mobile phones now how you can get the different um what are they called? Like the face-plates Robert Guercio: Yeah. Michael Futrell: Mm, Daniel Kennedy: that you change Michael Futrell: mm-hmm. Daniel Kennedy: so we could have maybe I don't know if it would be feasible to do something with that, where you can change the face-plates or have kind of a Robert Guercio: Uh-huh. Daniel Kennedy: variety so people can get different different things. Have it kind of look how they want to, different colours, things like that, Robert Guercio: Right. Daniel Kennedy: probably just plastic because that's always the lightest. Robert Guercio: Yeah. Okay that's uh Again I don't think that's ever been done before, it's uh Michael Futrell: Mm-hmm. Robert Guercio: the sort of the sort of thing that would get people uh thinking yes that's something that I haven't got and uh might need so. Uh Andrew, any thoughts about uh how we might market interchangeable fronts on on the remote control? Harold Seman: Um, well we could either market it together by getting control in a set colour or with like you buy it with several uh like you ge you get the f uh the face-plates with it when you buy or as a separate thing, but uh maybe thinking of that, it's considering the nature of the device, maybe a second thing like a second campaign to market Michael Futrell: Mm. Harold Seman: new facials for your to your might go a bit astray since Robert Guercio: Yeah. Harold Seman: it is the kind of thing where y you generally get one and then forget about it. Unless Robert Guercio: Yeah. Harold Seman: you were trying to Michael Futrell: Well you could come Robert Guercio: I Michael Futrell: up Robert Guercio: think Michael Futrell: with like novelty ones, like they've done with the the mobile phones, you can get like different you know scenes from different movies and stuff Harold Seman: Mm. Michael Futrell: on Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Michael Futrell: the remote control Harold Seman: Oh it's Michael Futrell: and Harold Seman: that's Michael Futrell: sorta Harold Seman: a that's a good idea. Michael Futrell: stagger the release of them and get people like oh I want that cover on it now and Daniel Kennedy: Yeah. Michael Futrell: that'll keep them Robert Guercio: Mm-mm. Harold Seman: Mm. Michael Futrell: spending money. Robert Guercio: Right, Harold Seman: Yeah true. Robert Guercio: okay I think we've got um a good idea now. We uh meeting is uh Needs to be k uh wrapped up fairly quickly. So uh um we've got thirty minutes to start looking at the um at the design in more detail. Um then we'll we will reconvene in in thirty minutes and try to get some of these ideas uh uh more formalised. Uh thank you very much indeed. Daniel Kennedy: Okay. Michael Futrell: Thank you.

Robert Guercio opens the meeting by welcoming everybody and saying they will be developing a new television remote control. Then each group member states his/her name and role in the group. Robert Guercio states that the remote needs to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The further work will be on the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Since they all know what a whiteboard is, they do a virtual drawing by each stating their favorite animal. Robert Guercio tells them the project budget. They proceed to discuss problems with current remotes as well as preferable styles and looks, such as using face-plates so the look is changable. Robert Guercio closes the meeting.

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Joel Blum: Okay, welcome to the second meeting of this group. Um I'll briefly go through the uh notes of the of the last meeting uh just done in in note form and I haven't attributed anything to individuals, because we're working strictly as a team here and uh n nobody's working Donald Collins: Sorry. Joel Blum: equally, so uh. Um we we s we saw that the the problems with existing remote controls were the uh b a boring shape and boring colour. Um and and we we saw that the what we needed to to to make sure the device um controls several items, that switching was easy, that you shouldn't need to point the thing at uh anything in particular, um that it need to be contoured to make it interesting, that the keys might be concave, simply because that hasn't been done before that we know of. Um should have interchangeable fascias so people can personalise it, um illuminated so that people can see it in dark rooms. Um and that people might want it as as in addition to their existing remote controls. Um and that it sh it should just always work, whenever you uh um mm uh use it. And that it shouldn't be too small, mm that it it gets lost. Um. Joel Blum: Now uh uh I'll shortly ask for for three three presentations. Uh before I do that, however, I will go through some new project requirements that um the the management have placed on us and uh will be challenging in terms of what we discussed at the first meeting. Um the uh the ma the management has had it's own thoughts on this and uh the they don't necessarily agree with with what we uh we thought. Um and and then we'll as a result of that we will then talk through the the functions that we see the the device um actually b carrying out, and we have uh forty minutes to do this in and I uh Joel Blum: Anyway. Okay. Now, the n the new requirements are um the the management team see that um teletext is no longer of any importance given the uh the rise of the internet. Um and and they want it only to cover televisions. Um now, what is not q quite clear from their directive is whether they mean th they don't want it to cover teletext or whether they don't want it to cover, you know, videos, D_V_D_s, um satellite boxes, which uh I mean we saw as being fundamental to the uh to the exercise. The um the actual wording of the directive is that it should cover television only. Um and on that basis um I I think we we need to bear that in mind, um but possibly uh keep at the backs of our minds that the reality that people even when they uh no longer they don't look at teletext anymore, they certainly do look at other things. Um the device has to incorporate the company logo and colours. Um the the logo uh being at b the bottom of the screen there, the the the two R_s in grey against uh a yellow background. Um now this doesn't necessarily mean that we have to give up some of our ideas about making it attractive to the t to the market. But uh do do introduce some some constraints as to how we might do that. Um it also has to be simple, which to some extent goes along w with the first one, and that we've already said that it must be simple 'cause that's what people want anyway. Um but they also want it to be simple to get it to the market quickly, which um mm uh is is is their choice, but uh um we we need to talk that through. Um okay, so uh after the meeting it'll be summarised and uh um notes sent out and uh etcetera. Okay, so we'll first of all mm have individual reports from everybody. Um again I there is no order of precedence here um so I I I'll leave it up to you to who who who thinks they would like to go go first? Noel Atkinson: Uh I don't mind. Joel Blum: P fine. Noel Atkinson: Uh can I the cable? Joel Blum: Oh sorry, you can indeed. Noel Atkinson: Cheers. Noel Atkinson: I got a how do I start there? Joel Blum: Oh, if you click on the um uh the one that that looks like a projection screen, no the one to the right of that. Noel Atkinson: That one. Joel Blum: That one. Noel Atkinson: Cool. Well these are functionality requirements from the our our guys down in the the research lab. Took hundred people and covered all the aspects of what um is needed by people and what they want to see. Um everything kinda and how individual functions are how how how often they're used how much their and stuff. And general opinions about current current remotes. See that, as we kinda noticed, seventy five percent of people find their remote controls ugly. So some kind of a new style should be incorporated that's less ugly. Uh along with um looking less ugly, if it looks better, eighty percent of people said they'd spend more money on it. Which is a a plus for us, if we can make it look better, it'd be uh more cost effective and we can put the price up. Current remote controls do not match the operating behaviour of the user. I can empl I kinda take that to mean as um they they don't uh they, yeah, they only use they only work for the television or yeah like as in in my flat I've got six remote controls for a stereo system, a digital box, a D_V_D_ player, a video player and T_V_. If it was uh I mean th my behaviour is to use multiple things at the same time and multiple remotes aren't really matched well to my behaviour. Uh again, seventy five percent is seventy five percent of users say they zap a lot. I took to mean that they just they use it a lot, they use it regularly rather than standing up and manually change channels or volume. And uh yeah, uh I think the big issue is fifty percent users only use ten percent of the buttons, 'cause uh wh if we got a remote that like well we'll have some buttons taken off by the lack of teletext, but uh oh and we're going to see uh on the uh that some of the functions like audio settings aren't h hardly ever used and used very aren't considered relevant by the user. So I think maybe fewer buttons, which also make the design look sleeker, I dunno. Uh um yeah and uh frustrations of like people losing remote control. I dunno Joel Blum: Mm. Noel Atkinson: maybe some kind of system of you press a button on the T_V_ or maybe that's b it would have to incorporate, but like some kind of system where you can f use something else to find the remote control. Maybe like it'll beep or something. And um, yep, the uh time taken to learn new remote controls is Uh don't want to make it too complicated, easy to use for uh new like first time users and stuff. And uh repetitive strain injury, I suppose we should make it more comfortable and make ma possibly even use have to make it, yeah, fewer buttons, like I was saying about the whole mice the mouse idea of it feels more comfortable. Maybe don't even Joel Blum: Mm. Noel Atkinson: have to hold it as such. Joel Blum: Gosh, must be some telly addicts out there if they get R_S_I_ from their television remote, is all I can say. Noel Atkinson: But uh yeah. It also asked um if we would if people would pay more for speech recognition and younger people say they would. And uh there was another section on our on the report for uh L_C_D_ displays, but the data wasn't there, so. I Joel Blum: Mm. Right. Noel Atkinson: don't actually know what the results for that were, Joel Blum: Mm. Noel Atkinson: so. May be incrementally emitting, but yeah. Joel Blum: Yeah, I must say that um the uh I c can't remember what um f you know phone service I was using the other day, but that had sorta speech recognition which worked uh remarkably well, so that is indeed a uh um Noel Atkinson: And Joel Blum: a thought Noel Atkinson: uh Joel Blum: and it it cuts out uh Noel Atkinson: it would cut out the R_S_I_ Joel Blum: I was was Noel Atkinson: as Joel Blum: gonna Noel Atkinson: well Joel Blum: say, you Noel Atkinson: if Joel Blum: can't Noel Atkinson: you Joel Blum: get a lot of R_S_I_, j just get jaw ache. Okay, sorry. Noel Atkinson: Yeah, um oh yeah, so possibly the speech recognition is possibly something could add into the design. Oh, I've got some other things I couldn't fit onto this presentation. Um. You see this okay? Almost no? It's sorry it's a bit. I'll read out to you. Uh functionality, uh like people's opinions on functionality, the relevance to the remote and how often they're used. So um like the power. Using the using the d swi the power switch to switch on T_V_ is a high relevance of nine, but it's not frequently used. You see what I mean? Whereas Joel Blum: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: channel selection, which is very high relevance Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Noel Atkinson: is used the most. So m we can maybe even start to cut down on or I was possibly even thinking of a design that maybe some of the buttons are hidden from everyday use. Maybe like uh a folding ledge or something. So that we can maybe Herbert Goh: Mm. Noel Atkinson: go into the channel settings and the audio settings, which are low relevance and rarely used. And keep the v volume selection and channel selection very easily Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Donald Collins: It could Joel Blum: I mean Donald Collins: be oh uh was gonna say uh like the phones that they use? Have you seen Herbert Goh: Mm. Donald Collins: the new mo mobile phones that Joel Blum: Yeah. Donald Collins: flip out and they have the Noel Atkinson: Oh yeah. Donald Collins: like texting, and then the numbers on one side, so you could have Joel Blum: Mm. Donald Collins: the most used buttons on top and Joel Blum: Hmm, Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: hmm. Donald Collins: flip Noel Atkinson: Yeah, Donald Collins: it out Noel Atkinson: like the one Donald Collins: or Noel Atkinson: that Donald Collins: something. Noel Atkinson: like slides back Joel Blum: Uh. Noel Atkinson: and the buttons are concealed Donald Collins: Yeah. Joel Blum: Should Noel Atkinson: underneath. Joel Blum: we Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: actually bite the bullet here? If people really don't use those buttons to any extent at all um Noel Atkinson: Just remove them completely? Joel Blum: remove them altogether. Donald Collins: That might be the Joel Blum: I wonder whether we could get the remote control with no buttons at all if we went for voice recognition, given that um the Um now the the age structure we were looking at um I mean w we had usage by age structure, what we didn't have was what proportion of people using remotes were in those particular age groups. Now Noel Atkinson: Uh yeah. Joel Blum: do we know whether they Forty no sorry for forty five to fifty five age group, uh to put myself right in the middle of it, um u use remote controls to a great extent. Yes we Noel Atkinson: Um no this is for Joel Blum: That would 've Noel Atkinson: pay Joel Blum: speech Noel Atkinson: more for Joel Blum: recogn Noel Atkinson: speech recognition. Joel Blum: right. So, we're looking at um well again, we don't know the relative proportion the relative numbers in the age groups. Noel Atkinson: Yeah, that's true. Joel Blum: If we wanted something different, truly different, then the buttonless Herbert Goh: P Joel Blum: remote control Herbert Goh: Well the only Joel Blum: w would Herbert Goh: problem Joel Blum: be it. Herbert Goh: I can think of with that is if you've got a lot of people that don't wanna be bothered learning how to use new rem remote controls. If you just kind of take away everything that they're used to knowing, that's gonna be quite a change. Joel Blum: But if you just Herbert Goh: It Joel Blum: lift Herbert Goh: might Joel Blum: it up and say, channel one or Noel Atkinson: Or even Joel Blum: B_B_C_ Noel Atkinson: I mean you could even just have it left on. You Donald Collins: Maybe Noel Atkinson: could just Donald Collins: i Noel Atkinson: put it down once on top your T_V_ and never have to Donald Collins: Yeah, have a big kind of like the satellite box or the cable box and then it doesn't matter where in the room you are, you won't Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Donald Collins: lose Herbert Goh: Mm. Donald Collins: it. Joel Blum: It c well it I can I can see technical problems Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: with that in terms Donald Collins: No. Joel Blum: of the, you know, the sound from the television, because if somebody actually on the television says Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: uh Noel Atkinson: B_B_C_ Donald Collins: Oh. Noel Atkinson: one. Joel Blum: uh, you know, I_T_V_ and you're watching B_B_C_ then Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: then it might um change itself, so it probably needs to be um Donald Collins: Yeah, that's true. Joel Blum: possibly actually need a button on it just Noel Atkinson: yeah. Joel Blum: to activate it. Or or something just to identify that you've lifted it up and it's use. And and then Donald Collins: Yeah. Joel Blum: just say, oh I don't know, a thought and and then uh I mean that that would certainly be uh truly different. Um 'cause uh you know audio settings, nought point eight percent. I mean if they weren't there, Noel Atkinson: Mm-mm. Joel Blum: would people miss them? Herbert Goh: But look at the importance of them. The volume settings. Noel Atkinson: Relevance of two out of ten, yeah. Joel Blum: Vol volume, Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: yes um Herbert Goh: They're not used often Joel Blum: th Herbert Goh: but they quite important when they're Joel Blum: w Herbert Goh: used. Joel Blum: we need to s identify Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: things that people actually need and and it's a function of frequency and relevance. And um I would say ignoring ig ignoring power for the moment, um the channel and volume Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: and th w w given given that we've been told to ignore teletext. Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Joel Blum: Uh channel and volume are the only ones that Noel Atkinson: Stand Joel Blum: uh Noel Atkinson: out. Joel Blum: would appear to be essential. Um. So we if we can design something that that looks interesting, know, or looks different, um incorporates the the logo and and the colours and um we can still have our interchangeable fascias even if it's the yellow and grey, um and uh I dunno, buttons or or buttons as an option. Noel Atkinson: Uh I just had a thought actually, sorry to interrupt. Joel Blum: Do, Noel Atkinson: Uh Joel Blum: please. Noel Atkinson: you were saying about um it could technical problems of like uh someone on the television saying a channel Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Noel Atkinson: number and it changed we could maybe have like an activation word. 'Cause I've seen Joel Blum: You Noel Atkinson: I've Joel Blum: cer Noel Atkinson: seen this used Joel Blum: certainly Noel Atkinson: on computers Joel Blum: could. Noel Atkinson: before, where you just you address the Herbert Goh: Mm. Noel Atkinson: remote, you address the computer, and then Joel Blum: Depe Noel Atkinson: give it Joel Blum: uh Noel Atkinson: a command. Joel Blum: i depends whether um if we want to make this so simple that anybody can walk into the room and lift it up and say Noel Atkinson: Oh I see. Oh yeah, I see. Joel Blum: B_B_C_ one. Um okay, I mean you could print actually print it on the uh Noel Atkinson: Mm-hmm, Joel Blum: device Noel Atkinson: yeah. Joel Blum: itself. Um. Noel Atkinson: I mean I'm just thinking of the point of view of peop you could still like lose this remote. Joel Blum: S th this I th that's always gonna be a problem Noel Atkinson: Mm. Joel Blum: I think. Um and I I I s so I suppose one um could make it so desirable that if people lose it they immediately go out and buy another one. Anyway, sorry, carry on. Do you want to just carry on with Noel Atkinson: Oh no I I interrupted Joel Blum: or no Noel Atkinson: you, sorry. Joel Blum: no, no uh b I was in the middle of Noel Atkinson: Oh okay. Joel Blum: in the middle of your report there. Noel Atkinson: Um well, I was just kinda wrapping up there. Yeah, I was thinking Joel Blum: Mm okay. Noel Atkinson: um, yeah, maybe such things are relevant. We could make things much more f I think the the eighty percent of people would spend more on uh a remote uh that looks better, combined with uh decrease the or take out the limited functio functions that we don't really use much. alright take out teletext, but as for channel settings and stuff it might it might um turn people somewhe peop some people that want the whole functionality away. But, since if we're marketing a more kind of fashionable approach Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Noel Atkinson: then it'd it would be fashion and fashion over practicality. Joel Blum: S s we could we could make it dual function voice recognition and still Noel Atkinson: Oh, we Joel Blum: have Noel Atkinson: could, yeah. Joel Blum: buttons on it Noel Atkinson: We c Joel Blum: um Noel Atkinson: yeah, we could even Joel Blum: 'cause we're Noel Atkinson: have it as like a yeah the buttons control this and the voice functions control the f things that you would do all the time, so. Joel Blum: Certainly could. Noel Atkinson: So uh Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: Yeah, Noel Atkinson: yeah, if we could Joel Blum: yeah. Noel Atkinson: uh power on and channel selection and and volume selection, wouldn't have to really Joel Blum: The I mean the the advantage of doing away the buttons altogether is it makes the thing cheaper. Noel Atkinson: Yeah and probably it would look better as well. Joel Blum: No, it cou certainly opens up the possibility for making it uh, you know, visually very distinctive. Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Joel Blum: Um Noel Atkinson: yeah. Joel Blum: 'cause you know, it does not have to be a oblong box. Herbert Goh: Mm. Noel Atkinson: Lined with numbered buttons Joel Blum: Mm, yeah. Noel Atkinson: and Joel Blum: Okay, who sorry, have you have you finished Noel Atkinson: Uh yeah, Joel Blum: there Andy? Noel Atkinson: yeah, Joel Blum: Yep, Noel Atkinson: that's Joel Blum: yep. Noel Atkinson: everything. Joel Blum: Um given that we've already had a extensive discussion uh. Donald Collins: Okay well, I can Herbert Goh: Hmm. Donald Collins: do mine. Noel Atkinson: Do you want the cable? Donald Collins: Yeah, let's see if I can make this work. Um. Herbert Goh: Oh, you have to hit like function and F_ something. Donald Collins: Oh. Noel Atkinson: F_ eight. Herbert Goh: F_ eight. Donald Collins: Is it doing Herbert Goh: Dunno. Noel Atkinson: Uh, give it about twenty seconds, or so. Donald Collins: Okay. Joel Blum: Ah, Herbert Goh: Oh yeah, Donald Collins: Oh Joel Blum: there Donald Collins: okay. Joel Blum: we Herbert Goh: it's going. Joel Blum: go. Donald Collins: Okay, so this is just about the technical functions. Joel Blum: Alright. Donald Collins: So the method, I looked online for examples of other similar products and then just kind of was trying to brainstorm some possible design ideas and um identify what the necessary things are, what people are what you really wanna have a remote control do. Um and then there are two different kinds that I found. There's a user centred one and an engineering centred one which I will have pictures of and Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Donald Collins: then we kinda have to decide which one this should be. So these are the two different ones. This one um this is the user centred, it has uh quite a few mm uh um fewer buttons and then this is the engineering centred, which has a lot more buttons, Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Donald Collins: and probably this is one that people complain about, about having too many buttons that you don't use. So basically, what a remote control is is you it's to send messages to the television set, you know, turn on, off, switch the channels and the volume and things such as that. And so for this product it's gonna be television only, and then it has to have the uh logos for the company and the colours. And so, for my personal preferences, I think this one is easier to use and has quite a you know, fewer buttons. Um we want something that sends messages easily to the television and I was kind of wondering about this example that they have. It looks kind of narrow at the top, and I was thinking maybe if it were wider Joel Blum: Mm, Donald Collins: at the top, Joel Blum: yeah. Donald Collins: then that would be easier. Um and so we have to decide what's gonna make our product different. E the unique style, maybe have it light up so it's visible in the dark, um the changeable face-plates, and the lighting up and visible I was when we were talking about havi losing it, maybe to have a button on the television that you press and it maybe if it makes a noise or lights up or something like that, so it's easier to find if someone has hidden under the couch or something like that. So that's my presentation. Yeah. Joel Blum: Okay, can I um I'm actually gonna use the um it's gonna cause great technical problems over here. I'm actually gonna use the Donald Collins: F they probably clip Herbert Goh: Oh yeah, they might be Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Herbert Goh: movable. Donald Collins: to Herbert Goh: Oh Donald Collins: you. Herbert Goh: yeah, they're all they're not connected to anything on the table, you just leave 'em on and walk around with 'em. Joel Blum: Yes, rather than the uh the the traditional in fact, um I won't even go that far. Um something like this shape, you know, sort of something that you can that's sort of a more vertical shape, um that you you sort of hold in your hand, um, well I'm trying to think uh uh uh l uh l such as I mean um something you hold up like that, possibly with a couple of buttons like that, but with the Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: the entire top with the, you know, the uh the infrared or whatever source. Uh so that you know, it's flying Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: off in all directions, so that uh um uh again the n need to look at the the the technicalities of um actually achieving that in terms of whether the, you know, the power requirements of the uh such a source, um you know, compromise the our our need for uh you know, it it being um mm permanently uh you know, available. Uh whether whether different technology um I mean th all all these remotes are presumably infrared, and like they have been for a long time. Uh we we possibly need to be looking at at at something different, um you know, short range, not like the old uh radio remote controls where you'd change next door's telly when you change yours. Um but uh uh I think basically i if we're going for i if minimum number of buttons is our priority, then we should, as I say, r know, really bite the bullets and and reduce the buttons to absolute minimum, you know, possibly with backup channel and volume buttons and on off. Um and nothing else. Um so that it can al it could uh almost end up like that, but again, except that um you know the risk of losing it. Um anyway okay um so Kate, Herbert Goh: Yes, Joel Blum: wh what Herbert Goh: mm. Joel Blum: are your uh your Donald Collins: Oh. Joel Blum: thoughts on this? Herbert Goh: Which one does this plug into? Donald Collins: Hmm I think it's all there. Herbert Goh: That one. Donald Collins: H Herbert Goh: I can't did you could you see it on you screen when it Donald Collins: Oh yeah. That's kind of strange. Herbert Goh: That's not cool. Oh well. Anyways. Um alright, yeah, so um I'll just do my presentation on the working design uh. Oh there we go. Okay um just at the m yeah the whole sort of method of how the remote control works. Uh the basic function of the remote control is to send messages to another sh system, the the T_V_ or the D_V_D_ player or whatever. Um and it does this uh by well, you need to start off you need an energy source and this energy source will feed into an integrated circuit chip and the circuit chip is the part that actually composes the different messages uh within the remote um which will then be sent to the uh the television, the D_V_D_ to tell that what to do. Um and you need a user interface, which controls the chip and thus the messages and uh the user interface is that's basically just you kn the s sorta design of the actual remote which you hold in your hands and what buttons will be on it. Um Oh shoot. Okay. Uh just general findings. Uh what we need uh technically speaking for the remote control is some sort of energy source, uh some sort of user interface, which I think we've mostly been talking about the user interface and the design of that. Um a circuit chip within that to uh control and send the messages and um a sender and receiver. And um oops. Uh-huh. This is just sort of a little schematic diagram of what we're looking for. Uh this Noel Atkinson: Hmm. Herbert Goh: just kinda represents the energy source which feeds into the circuit chip uh which maybe then we could have that feed into a switch which would send signals f to um a subcomponent and on to a light bulb between so it'll light up once we start once you start pressing buttons. Um also send signals to the um infrared bulb, which will be the part that actually what? Sends signals to the the television. And then you've got your happy little T_V_ watcher there. And so my personal preferences I I just think we need sorta big uh energy source that won't die out, uh perhaps some sort of rechargeable battery or a battery dock you could place it in, so it'd constantly be charged, so you wouldn't have to uh be worrying about it running out of batteries and not changing channels for you. Uh a wide range uh sender-receiver, so that you can hit the buttons from basically anywhere in the room, and the channel'll still be changed. Uh also definitely a user-friendly interface um and I think we've all sort of mentioned adding a a locating device on it, so when it does get stuck under the couch cushions, as they inevitably do, you can find them easily. And that's pretty much it. Joel Blum: Okay. Uh it seems seems to Noel Atkinson there are a number of fundamental decisions to make Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: before we um I think your point about the the big energy source is uh Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: a very valid one. Um I don't suppose we've got any statistics on the the life expectancy of uh remote controls, particularly sort of independent ones. Um given you know, the number of things you buy these days, which you know, have a a a lithium whatever battery in, that's uh, you know never needs replacing. Um perhaps we should have the the disposable remote control, uh um you know, one some sort of typical usage. You know, the the the battery will last know, five, ten years. By which time I mean when all's said and done, the digital television will be taking over Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: in that time scale. Noel Atkinson: Mm-hmm. Joel Blum: Um uh uh p perhaps we should, know, reduce the uh, you know, the sort of moving parts even more by not even having a battery compartment and uh Herbert Goh: Just having one that's guaranteed to last five to ten years? Joel Blum: Yeah, and Herbert Goh: Oh, Joel Blum: if if anybody Herbert Goh: cool. Joel Blum: manages to run it down, we'll we'll give 'em a new one. Herbert Goh: Yeah, fair enough. Joel Blum: Um it's, you know, it's what it saves in cost and you know there there's a well, it's actually a marketing gimmick. I mean it's hardly a gimmick, it's uh it's totally practical. Uh so I th think you know the idea of a rechargeable one is um uh unless you're really high tech and it sort of just recharges itself if it's n by, you know, magnetic waves or whatever, if Noel Atkinson: It could Joel Blum: if Noel Atkinson: have Joel Blum: it Noel Atkinson: like uh know like a cordless phone in your house it s got like a base that Joel Blum: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: sits Herbert Goh: Mm, Noel Atkinson: there all Herbert Goh: mm. Noel Atkinson: the time. Joel Blum: Are are people really gonna use it though? Noel Atkinson: I Donald Collins: Yeah, people Joel Blum: Um. Noel Atkinson: suppose, Donald Collins: are pro Herbert Goh: Mm Noel Atkinson: yeah. Donald Collins: I Herbert Goh: yeah. Donald Collins: would think that people might forget I mean Joel Blum: I Donald Collins: people Joel Blum: I th Donald Collins: forget Joel Blum: I think Donald Collins: to put their cordless phones back on there, Herbert Goh: Mm-mm. Donald Collins: so. Joel Blum: Yeah, it's Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Joel Blum: um I mean I know that somei times my my wife goes out in the morning and says oh I should have put the phone on Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: to charge and then then she's had those for so long that if she hasn't worked that out by now. Um. Herbert Goh: 'Cause I only remember to charge my cell phone uh when battery dies. And that's pretty Donald Collins: Yeah. Herbert Goh: much Joel Blum: When it yeah, wh Herbert Goh: yeah. Joel Blum: when it's died is a problem. Herbert Goh: Yeah, when it turns itself Joel Blum: Yeah, Herbert Goh: off, that's Joel Blum: yeah, Herbert Goh: when I plug it in, Joel Blum: yeah, Herbert Goh: yeah. Joel Blum: so uh um what so wh what what do we think about the um the the permanent mm battery? Herbert Goh: Yeah, think that's Noel Atkinson: Uh. That Herbert Goh: a good Donald Collins: No. Herbert Goh: idea. Noel Atkinson: sounds pretty good, yeah. Joel Blum: Is the uh you know, we we Donald Collins: Um. Joel Blum: we are really going for the ultimate in ex uh external simplicity Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: here. Um you know, cut cost within the manufacturing and uh you know, if we have a high tech interior, then then that that sh may well be cost effective. Donald Collins: Do they make batteries that last that long? Joel Blum: I mean th th certainly. Um I can't think of anything off the s top of my head, but there are certainly things that you buy. I mean calculators for example. Herbert Goh: They usually have the little light uh source, I dunno Donald Collins: Yeah, they Herbert Goh: what Donald Collins: have Herbert Goh: the Donald Collins: that Herbert Goh: heck Donald Collins: little Herbert Goh: they're called, Donald Collins: solar Herbert Goh: the but yeah, the little cells that Joel Blum: Som well some do, I mean th th but Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: there are battery ones that um Noel Atkinson: Mm-hmm. Joel Blum: are Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: you know, sort of permanently sealed. Donald Collins: Yeah. Joel Blum: In in fact I'd Herbert Goh: Most of them, don't they have sort of a combination of the two, like when there is light, they'll work off the light, and if Joel Blum: Yeah, Herbert Goh: there isn't, they'll Joel Blum: uh uh Herbert Goh: kick into this battery, so we can maybe do something like that whereas there is a battery, but if there's enough light, then it's using the light, so that it's not actually draining the battery all the time, Donald Collins: Mm. Herbert Goh: but you will have the battery there for Joel Blum: Yeah, Herbert Goh: when Joel Blum: I Herbert Goh: you need Joel Blum: I mean Herbert Goh: it. Joel Blum: th th this needs going t into the technology Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: a bit. I mean the the actual time that a remote control is actually operating Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: I would think is i is is probably, you know, no more than minutes in its entire life. Herbert Goh: Oh, Joel Blum: Um. Donald Collins: Yeah, some people are Joel Blum: If, but I say Herbert Goh: clicking, Joel Blum: if if people are getting Herbert Goh: yeah. Joel Blum: R_S_I_ from it then Herbert Goh: Yeah, Joel Blum: uh then Donald Collins: Yeah. Herbert Goh: then they're Joel Blum: uh Herbert Goh: clicking Joel Blum: then Herbert Goh: a lot, Joel Blum: then Herbert Goh: yeah. Donald Collins: Yeah. Joel Blum: perhaps we're looking Noel Atkinson: W Joel Blum: at the wrong market Noel Atkinson: like Joel Blum: n Noel Atkinson: like this um this uh market research thing says number of times per hour that it's used, channel selection a hundred and sixty eight times per Joel Blum: Right. Noel Atkinson: hour. Herbert Goh: Yeah. Donald Collins: Per hour? Wow. Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Donald Collins: That's a lot. Herbert Goh: Yeah. Joel Blum: Oh, I must admit I hadn't um I'd I'd missed that. That does sound excessive. Noel Atkinson: But then again, if you think it of the amount of, you know amount of use it's like Joel Blum: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: That's it's less Herbert Goh: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: than a second, Donald Collins: Yeah. Herbert Goh: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: um. Joel Blum: Well that's right, and and I I don't I don't even know whether the I don't even know whether the s the signal lasts as long as Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: you actually keep the button pressed, or whether it's just a Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Joel Blum: sorta tenth of a second, no matter how long you press it for, I don't know I don't actually know. Donald Collins: Though Joel Blum: Um. Donald Collins: I think with digital T_V_, like I know on my cable box, you're not supposed to do that because the channel can't keep up with it if Joel Blum: Yeah. Donald Collins: you just Herbert Goh: Mm. Donald Collins: press it like that, so you're supposed to use the menu and go through the Joel Blum: Mm-hmm. Noel Atkinson: Mm-hmm. Donald Collins: different channels that way instead of Joel Blum: Mm. Right, so I've got a message to say five minutes, I dunno how long ago that appeared. Um Donald Collins: Uh-oh. Joel Blum: 'cause we're we're getting um right, so I'd I need to sum up very quickly here um. We're looking at extreme simplicity. We're looking at a radically different shape. Possibly no buttons at all um, but if you can incorporate um channel change and volume buttons um in into the design, then then that's fine. Um in the I mean the the role of the of the um the user interface des designer becomes b you know more important here, because, you know, shape is no longer an a uh um a serious constraint. But we clearly only need th the main buttons, although, uh if clearly only need the main functions. Um I don't see why we shouldn't go for voice recognition um and the the only buttons that I think we need are channel control, volume control and on off. Um it needs to incorporate the corporate logo, uh the the grey and yellow colour scheme and there's no reason why we can't introduce um interchangeable uh covers. Um uh d so does that accurately summarise what we've discussed? Noel Atkinson: Yeah. Donald Collins: Yeah. Herbert Goh: Yep. Hmm. Joel Blum: Right. Donald Collins: Um Joel Blum: So uh Donald Collins: Oh I just have one question. Joel Blum: Yeah. Donald Collins: So are we doing just the television or are we doing Joel Blum: We are doing just the television. Donald Collins: so not D_V_D_ Joel Blum: No. Donald Collins: players, we okay, okay. Joel Blum: I think that's quite clear from the the information Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: that we've been given, no? Donald Collins: Okay. Noel Atkinson: Yeah, like in the email of television only. In fact they're in the constraints email that I got. Joel Blum: Right. Noel Atkinson: Didn't you mention the teletext, just television Joel Blum: Oh yeah Noel Atkinson: only? Joel Blum: well Herbert Goh: Mm. Joel Blum: th that's Donald Collins: Yeah. Joel Blum: one I s that's one I sent you, which which was my interpretation Noel Atkinson: Oh okay. Joel Blum: of uh Herbert Goh: Yeah. Noel Atkinson: Oh yeah. Joel Blum: of the Donald Collins: Oh Joel Blum: uh Donald Collins: okay. Joel Blum: what came down Herbert Goh: Okay. Joel Blum: from from head office. Um That's that that that that's their uh their view. Okay, so uh we can all give some thought to that uh for for the next meeting, thank you Donald Collins: Okay. Joel Blum: very much indeed. Herbert Goh: Cool.

Joel Blum opens the meeting by going through notes from the last meeting, recapping the topics covered. He tells them some new project requirements given by management. Noel Atkinson presents, talking about user functionality requirements taken from research of 100 people. They discuss the possibility of making a remote that hides less frequently used buttons, one that uses voices recognition to eliminate buttons altogether, or one that combines the two functions. The interface specialist presents, showing examples of two different products- one that is user-centered and another that is engineering-centered and giving personal preference to the simpler one because it is easier to use and has fewer buttons. Next Herbert Goh presents, explaining how a remote control works and giving personal preference to a remote which has a large energy source such as a rechargable battery or battery dock. The group discusses using a battery that will last 5-10 years or a solar combined with a battery. They briefly review their discussions and close the meeting.

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Peter Moss: Right well. Welcome to the what should be the last of these meetings and uh it looks like we've uh done a good job here and uh we'll just go through the the final uh the final details. Um okay, oh the um th the the minutes of the last meeting uh I think we'll take those as read, um Okay the um th the the next uh thing we we we'll have a look at the uh th have a look at the prototypes and uh look at the uh evaluation and finance and then uh uh just tidy up with production and um and then we can close. Um So f if if you'd like to uh present your your proposals. Kevin Sorg: Uh okay we basically have the same kinda here it's just um you hold it like this and it gets kinda moulded to the to the shape of your hand, basically. Um on the left we've got the scroll for the volume, on the right we have buttons for the channels up and down and that kinda so you can hold it and scroll, or you can hold it and and push. Uh this is the power key, um it's kinda like the biggest Peter Moss: Uh-huh. Kevin Sorg: Uh that's the little menu key. This is the infra-red section so you g it'll be sending rays and if you're you know pointing it like that it can send it, Peter Moss: Yep, Kevin Sorg: or if you hold it up Peter Moss: yeah, Kevin Sorg: like that it'll send Peter Moss: good, Kevin Sorg: it. Peter Moss: good. Kevin Sorg: Uh we got a microphone there which for all the voice commands so you can Peter Moss: Uh-huh. Kevin Sorg: you know talk to it like that and it'll still Peter Moss: Yep, Kevin Sorg: understand. Peter Moss: right. Kevin Sorg: Um the logo is down down there Peter Moss: Uh-huh. Emory Coll: Mm. Kevin Sorg: um Emory Coll: S Kevin Sorg: and has the cover on it and you can see like it just kinda goes the red bit's the cover and it kinda goes over everything Peter Moss: Yep, Kevin Sorg: and then there's holes Peter Moss: yep, Kevin Sorg: for the buttons to Peter Moss: mm-hmm. Kevin Sorg: come through. Um. Emory Coll: And so we figured it be of you know light, just Kevin Sorg: Mm. Emory Coll: kind Peter Moss: Uh-huh. Emory Coll: of a light Peter Moss: Yep yep. Emory Coll: non-descript grey so that people'll wanna buy the covers Peter Moss: Yep. Emory Coll: and then the covers will be that sort of rubbery material like they make iPod covers, so they kinda just stretch over. Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: showing Elmer Leal age, I don't know what i c iPod covers are like. Emory Coll: Yeah, well I Peter Moss: Yeah Emory Coll: I didn't know that but Peter Moss: yeah. Emory Coll: yeah they're kind of it's just kind of a rubbery Peter Moss: Uh-huh. Emory Coll: and that way Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Emory Coll: you know spongy Peter Moss: Okay, Emory Coll: like is something that people Peter Moss: yep, Emory Coll: wanted Peter Moss: right. Emory Coll: and it just sort of stretches over and Kevin Sorg: Mm-hmm. Emory Coll: that way I think probably helps protect it a little bit too as well Kevin Sorg: But Emory Coll: and Kevin Sorg: it's also Peter Moss: Okay. Kevin Sorg: e e easier to put on versus like mobile covers you actually have to screw them on and stuff and you kinda sometimes have to get someone to do that for you. This is very much you should be Peter Moss: Yep. Kevin Sorg: able Emory Coll: just Kevin Sorg: to stretch Emory Coll: kinda Kevin Sorg: it over Emory Coll: stretch it Kevin Sorg: yourself Emory Coll: over Kevin Sorg: and it'll be fine. Peter Moss: Okay, Emory Coll: and Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Peter Moss: good Emory Coll: it'll just stay Peter Moss: yeah. Emory Coll: on and then the Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Emory Coll: buttons come through and so and then the each one of 'em on the very end will have the logo with the yellow Peter Moss: Yep, Emory Coll: circle Peter Moss: right. Emory Coll: and the R_R_. Kevin Sorg: Li that'll be the covers as well, Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: Yeah, Kevin Sorg: yeah Peter Moss: yeah. Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: I mean tha it's it's a detailed point, I just wondered I mean h how will people put these down I wonder? Emory Coll: Like that. Peter Moss: Right. Okay for some strange re reason I had it in my mind that they'd put them Kevin Sorg: Yeah Peter Moss: down Kevin Sorg: it could Peter Moss: vertically Kevin Sorg: stand, Peter Moss: but Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: uh Emory Coll: Oh. Peter Moss: uh Kevin Sorg: Well we could broaden the broaden it out a bit so it would stand Peter Moss: Yeah, Kevin Sorg: like Peter Moss: uh no Kevin Sorg: that. Peter Moss: because particularly if they've dif if they're gonna have it as a you know as a fashion item Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Peter Moss: uh Kevin Sorg: standing. Peter Moss: I mean it it's uh it it's just I mean it's just a minor detailed point, but um as you say you can just make the base a little bit bigger Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Peter Moss: and Kevin Sorg: we could Peter Moss: uh Kevin Sorg: just widen it out uh Peter Moss: Yeah and uh it just needs another uh another logo somewhere is is is is all it gives gives people the option Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: and if if say if they've got them Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: um because actually have several upon the uh Elmer Leal: Could have one for your Kevin Sorg: Mm, Elmer Leal: stereo, one Peter Moss: Yeah, Kevin Sorg: yeah, Emory Coll: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: well. Elmer Leal: your D_V_ Kevin Sorg: Have Elmer Leal: player. Kevin Sorg: to if we just lengthen Emory Coll: Yeah, Kevin Sorg: it I guess so it comes Peter Moss: Yeah Emory Coll: just Kevin Sorg: down Emory Coll: kind Kevin Sorg: to the Peter Moss: but Kevin Sorg: base Peter Moss: that Emory Coll: of Kevin Sorg: of Peter Moss: that's Kevin Sorg: the hand and then Peter Moss: uh Kevin Sorg: flatten Peter Moss: but Kevin Sorg: it out Peter Moss: uh Kevin Sorg: and Peter Moss: no Kevin Sorg: could Peter Moss: the Kevin Sorg: sit there. Peter Moss: the the overall Emory Coll: Or Peter Moss: uh Emory Coll: just make Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Emory Coll: it little. Peter Moss: the Kevin Sorg: mm. Peter Moss: overall concept is uh Emory Coll: Somewhere Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Emory Coll: like that Peter Moss: yeah yeah, Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Peter Moss: no no, I mean that's Emory Coll: so it just Peter Moss: these Emory Coll: sort Peter Moss: uh Emory Coll: of Kevin Sorg: We might Elmer Leal: Yeah I kinda Kevin Sorg: have to Elmer Leal: had Kevin Sorg: lengthen Elmer Leal: a Kevin Sorg: it so it kinda your Elmer Leal: a kinda Kevin Sorg: hand still Elmer Leal: a natural Kevin Sorg: holds it and have Elmer Leal: kind Emory Coll: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: it Elmer Leal: of Kevin Sorg: there, Elmer Leal: a idea where Kevin Sorg: yeah, Elmer Leal: it's like Kevin Sorg: yeah, yeah Elmer Leal: more Kevin Sorg: like Elmer Leal: of Kevin Sorg: that, Elmer Leal: a kind Kevin Sorg: like Elmer Leal: of Kevin Sorg: that. Elmer Leal: like Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Emory Coll: Bu Elmer Leal: a kinda maybe slightly like thinner, yeah, kinda Peter Moss: Yeah. Elmer Leal: like that kinda like a flower Peter Moss: But uh Elmer Leal: or a plant Peter Moss: yeah Kevin Sorg: Mm. Elmer Leal: for Peter Moss: but Elmer Leal: the more Peter Moss: no Elmer Leal: natural Peter Moss: th but Elmer Leal: kinda Peter Moss: the yeah the the the Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it it's uh Emory Coll: fall Peter Moss: wouldn't Kevin Sorg: The final Emory Coll: over. Kevin Sorg: product Peter Moss: wouldn't do Kevin Sorg: would Peter Moss: that, Kevin Sorg: actually Peter Moss: indeed Kevin Sorg: stand Peter Moss: yeah. Kevin Sorg: up, yeah. Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: But th th but th yeah th b the these were all minor minor Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: uh minor Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: details, I think the uh the basic Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Peter Moss: concept Emory Coll: 'S a little Peter Moss: i i Emory Coll: longer. Peter Moss: is is absolutely bang on Kevin Sorg: Wee Peter Moss: and the i it certainly meets our criteria of being uh Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: of you know looking different. Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: Um, so good that's that that's excellent. Um right let us um What's on the next one? Oh right yes, let's have a look at the um f finance. Um, now we're given a a clear design brief, uh if I get the uh spreadsheet up. Oh. Elmer Leal: Uh yeah, just click there. Uh the the maximise button. Peter Moss: Oh right. Ah. Good, this is why we need to make these things simple so that the uh the the the boss can understand. Now I've um this is the company's uh uh costing for for various uh uh aspects of design and I I I've treated some of these slightly uh liberally given the constraints placed on us, um I wouldn't know for in for instance if if they require us to have it in the corporate colours, then that is not a special colour, that's a that's a standard colour. Uh, so we're just simply on batteries, the the one th the one decision I've had to make is that um we're we will have to find a s a regular standard chip to to do this with and I I um I'm I'm I'm certain that they they are around so, um that I don't think is a a serious problem. The uh the the voice sensor is is expensive but we we made a a basic decision that that was absolutely fundamental to the to the design so that that has to stay. Um then again the the the the shape of the case means that it's it's expensive to uh um l to make 'cause of the the th the double curves but on the other hand because of our overall fashion concept um we we should exceed the the sales targets. Um it's simply made of plastic so th that's uh that's no problem and uh um just because the whole the colour of the the whole thing that's uh uh there's some cost there. Um and uh we haven't actually got a scroll wheel we we we got push buttons and and a simple uh um slider so um and the and the the buttons are uh uh well I do don't know that they're special colour. Anyway the the costings uh come in at exactly on target at twelve point five uh but I thi I think we have a a very strong case to argue that uh what what we've got is is so in innovative and uh and different that um any any slight compromise we have to make on on cost is is offset by the uh you know the uh you know the the Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: the the concept of it being a a fashion accessory and and having the the interchangeable covers so uh um you know the if if Peter Moss: they have to accept that we we can't operate absolutely Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: within uh the constraints that they give, so uh we we we present this as the uh the company's uh the the company's way forward and uh uh I I think we can argue that we we have uh come in on on budget. Um. Okay, uh. So um. Does anybody want to uh uh Andrew do you want what do you want to say about um the uh Elmer Leal: Evaluation. Peter Moss: yeah the evaluation where where you know well where where we're where where we're at? Elmer Leal: The the product or the project? Peter Moss: The the the well the I meant the product. Elmer Leal: Um, well well my presentation just now Peter Moss: Yeah. Elmer Leal: Sure? uh can I get the Peter Moss: Oh sorry yeah um, mm. Elmer Leal: Cheers. Peter Moss: Mm. More loud clicks in the microphone. Elmer Leal: There we go, oh. Method of evaluation testing the product was to just if it met all the criteria all the conditions that we set out to set out to solve, from the point of view of the the consumer and the management. So what I've been asked to do is, on the whiteboard um gauge our team response to these questions. So, on a scale of one to seven, one being true and seven being being false. Peter Moss: Seven being a nice round number to work to. Elmer Leal: Yeah. And then at the end just take an average Peter Moss: Tr On for true and seven for flase. Elmer Leal: Yes. Peter Moss: Yes. Elmer Leal: So uh. Elmer Leal: So, look at these questions. Is the device f flashy and fashionable? Peter Moss: Well I think most Kevin Sorg: Yeah Emory Coll: I Peter Moss: definitely. Emory Coll: think Kevin Sorg: I'd Emory Coll: it Kevin Sorg: say Emory Coll: is yeah. Kevin Sorg: definitely a one yeah. Elmer Leal: So uh and also uh technologically innovative? Peter Moss: Yes Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Peter Moss: the Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: voice technology Kevin Sorg: defi yeah, Peter Moss: indeed. Kevin Sorg: yeah Elmer Leal: Easy to use? Peter Moss: I don't see Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: we could've Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Peter Moss: made it any easier. Elmer Leal: Uh suitable for the consumer? That was um Peter Moss: Totally. Kevin Sorg: Yeah definitely. Emory Coll: Yeah I think it made we met all of the consumer Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Elmer Leal: Yeah. Emory Coll: wants. Elmer Leal: Uh is it complicated? Peter Moss: No. Emory Coll: No. Elmer Leal: Doing pretty well so far aren't we? Uh functional? Peter Moss: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: Yeah Emory Coll: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: definitely. Elmer Leal: Um. Where are we? Peter Moss: found easily. Elmer Leal: We've b Peter Moss: yeah I mean Elmer Leal: built in the Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Elmer Leal: the speech, Peter Moss: that's Elmer Leal: where Peter Moss: that's Elmer Leal: are Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Elmer Leal: you, Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Elmer Leal: function. Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: mm-hmm. Elmer Leal: Uh-huh. Peter Moss: Does it take long to learn to use? Shouldn't. Kevin Sorg: No, not at Elmer Leal: Mm-hmm. Kevin Sorg: all. Elmer Leal: And uh, what else? The R_S_I_ compares to the current standards, well. Peter Moss: Less buttons Kevin Sorg: Uh Peter Moss: so it must be. Elmer Leal: We we uh yeah it Kevin Sorg: Yeah Elmer Leal: was our it was a we made Kevin Sorg: it Elmer Leal: an Kevin Sorg: is Elmer Leal: actual effort Kevin Sorg: sorta Elmer Leal: to Kevin Sorg: the the handle more ergonomically correct as well. Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: So yeah, Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: um um. Elmer Leal: Um will device appeal to all age groups? Peter Moss: I think it will Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: because Emory Coll: I think so. Peter Moss: I mean uh old older people who can't manage the buttons anyway will actually probably Elmer Leal: Yeah, Peter Moss: like the like Elmer Leal: uh Kevin Sorg: Mm. Elmer Leal: that's a good call, yeah. Peter Moss: like the voice bit Elmer Leal: Well Peter Moss: so Elmer Leal: we had the we had the data saying that old people will be less likely to pay extra money but the funct the increased functionality, the e ease of use of the device might make up for that. Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: And it's it's it's well I don't think we're actually charging a particular premium anyway, in Kevin Sorg: I Peter Moss: the Elmer Leal: Mm. Peter Moss: end, Kevin Sorg: I I think Peter Moss: so Kevin Sorg: it Emory Coll: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: will tend to appeal more to younger aged groups just 'cause we have gone with the fashion Peter Moss: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: focus and the younger Peter Moss: Yeah. Kevin Sorg: people tend to would be more conscious of that aspect of it, but um I think it should still appeal on a certain level Peter Moss: It will appeal Kevin Sorg: to everybody, Peter Moss: f for dif for Kevin Sorg: yeah. Peter Moss: different reasons Emory Coll: Yeah Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Emory Coll: I Peter Moss: but Emory Coll: think Peter Moss: it's Kevin Sorg: yeah. Emory Coll: just Peter Moss: it's Emory Coll: the Peter Moss: uh Emory Coll: simplicity of Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Emory Coll: it Peter Moss: yeah Kevin Sorg: yeah. Emory Coll: and Peter Moss: yeah so I I yeah I Emory Coll: not having to learn to programme and not having you Peter Moss: Yeah, Emory Coll: know a Peter Moss: so Emory Coll: million buttons. Kevin Sorg: Yeah. Peter Moss: I think we can reasonably say it's another Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: another one, why not? Elmer Leal: Uh can you just click the my mouse to move onto next page? Uh, yeah and what h did we make the management's Peter Moss: in in in in my interpretation of management's instructions uh is that yes it it meets the requirement is t it's television Kevin Sorg: Yep. Peter Moss: only, it's Kevin Sorg: Mm-hmm. Peter Moss: it's simple to use, um it's Emory Coll: Under Peter Moss: it's Emory Coll: the cost. Peter Moss: it's within Kevin Sorg: Mm-hmm. Peter Moss: budget, Kevin Sorg: Yep. Peter Moss: um I it's uh yes an an any minor points we we we argue. Elmer Leal: Um. Peter Moss: So uh I I think we've Kevin Sorg: Yep. Peter Moss: done an amazing job in uh Elmer Leal: Okay. Kevin Sorg: Well done us. Peter Moss: coming up with what Elmer Leal: So uh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven. Eleven divided by eleven's one so Emory Coll: Yeah, Elmer Leal: equals average of one. Peter Moss: Need a need a calculator for that. Elmer Leal: And that roughly concludes my evaluation of the Kevin Sorg: Excellent. Peter Moss: Okay, Elmer Leal: of the product. Peter Moss: nick Emory Coll: I Peter Moss: the Emory Coll: mixed Peter Moss: cable Emory Coll: up the colours Peter Moss: back Kevin Sorg: Oh Peter Moss: then. Kevin Sorg: no Emory Coll: a little bit. Kevin Sorg: that's Emory Coll: I think I all Peter Moss: Ooh. Emory Coll: wrong. Peter Moss: Right do um either of you want to uh say anything? Kevin Sorg: Uh. Peter Moss: Mm. Emory Coll: Mm. Peter Moss: Before I uh Emory Coll: Ps I don't think so, I mean Peter Moss: No. Emory Coll: I think we worked well together and Peter Moss: Yeah. Emory Coll: looked really at what the consumers wanted and what we Peter Moss: Yeah. Emory Coll: were trying to make and you know, seemed to discuss things pretty well and Kevin Sorg: Mm-hmm. Emory Coll: come to group consensus and Peter Moss: Well that's right, I mean th this this slide here I mean the satisfaction with uh room for creativity, Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: I mean I think Kevin Sorg: Yeah, Peter Moss: we've allowed Kevin Sorg: definitely. Peter Moss: ourselves uh as much creativity as the uh the the the product Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: uh allows. Um I won't comment on leadership, uh teamwork I think we've uh I think everybody's uh Kevin Sorg: Mm-hmm. Peter Moss: worked pretty well together. Um we've just about coped with the whiteboard and digital pens, uh I think the results speak Kevin Sorg: Mm. Peter Moss: for itself and new ideas found, um, again gi no given relatively everyday product, Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: I think Kevin Sorg: Yep. Peter Moss: we've v very uh very effectively come up with a a new uh uh a new approach. Um are the costs within budget? Yes. Is the project evaluated? We're Kevin Sorg: Yep. Peter Moss: we're all happy that it it meets all the criteria, um Thank you very much indeed, Kevin Sorg: Cool, Peter Moss: I think Kevin Sorg: thank Emory Coll: Alright. Kevin Sorg: you, Peter Moss: that I think that's uh Emory Coll: Yeah. Peter Moss: I think we can go f for an early bath. So I call the meeting closed. Emory Coll: Okay. Peter Moss: Not sure how far ahead of schedule we were there.

Peter Moss opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Then Kevin Sorg and interface specialist present the prototype, showing where they placed each button, function, and the company logo. Then they talk about the material they chose, which is light gray colored and light weight plastic so that people will want to buy covers. Next they take a brief look at the finance by examining the materials used, chip required, shape, and color. They are exactly on target at twelve point five. Next Elmer Leal administers the product evaluation, and the group talks about whether the device is flashy and fashionable, technologically innovative, easy to use, suitable for the consumer, complicated, how long it would take to learn to use it, and its appeal to all age groups. They come up with an average of 1 for the evaluation. They briefly discuss the project process and agree that they worked well together, had excellent teamwork, and created an effective product that meets the budget cost. They close the meeting by thanking one another.

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Jose West: Is this okay? Anthony Brown: Uh yeah. Fine now. Anthony Brown: Oh, it's not liking us, it went that-a-way. Computer adjusting. Oh. Uh. Anthony Brown: Okay. So. Right. Anthony Brown: You ready back there? Uh okay. Welcome everyone. Um this is the kick-off meeting for the day. Um we're the new group uh to create a new remote control for Real Reaction. As you can see our agenda is to open up the meeting, um become acquainted with each other, um have a little training on tools, uh create a plan, discuss things and and we only have twenty minut twenty five minutes total. Okay. The new remote control is to be original, trendy and user-friendly. That, Steph, is your part, is the user-friendliness. The originality um is gonna take all of us. Um the trendiness we'll probably go look at for some marketing research information from you, Sarah. Um and we'll get on with it. Okay, so we'll have a functional design individual work um with meeting and then conceptual design t and then detailed design. Okay? Right. Everybody's supposed to try out the whiteboard. Kate, why don't you try it first, if you can either Len Corbeil: Uh yeah, if Anthony Brown: bring Len Corbeil: I Anthony Brown: your things with Len Corbeil: pick with Anthony Brown: you, I Len Corbeil: all Anthony Brown: guess Len Corbeil: these bits and pieces, hang on. Anthony Brown: And while you're doing that we'll try and figure out how to hook these things on as well, 'cause we're all gonna have to be able to walk around. Len Corbeil: Uh right, so you want an animal and the characteristics of that animal. Do you have to be able to recognise what animal it is? Anthony Brown: Uh I do not think so, I think it's just to try out the whiteboard. Len Corbeil: Um Jeffrey Morgan: Are we all gonna draw a cat? Jose West: I know. Len Corbeil: Only animal I could thin I could draw. Anthony Brown: Ah. Len Corbeil: Its a sort of bunny rabbit cat. You can tell it's not a bunny rabbit by the ears. Anthony Brown: Uh-huh. Len Corbeil: Um I suppose it should have a mouth as well, sort of Anthony Brown: Okay. Len Corbeil: Right, yeah. Anthony Brown: Great. And the characteristics? Len Corbeil: Um the favourite characteristics of the cat um the whiskers I think, um because they're the easiest to draw. Anthony Brown: Uh-huh. Len Corbeil: In fact, I'll give it some more Oh, Anthony Brown: Okay. Len Corbeil: and the tail Anthony Brown: Fantastic. Since you're handy as well, why don't you do yours next, Steph. Anthony Brown: I think it's to get us used to using the pen. Len Corbeil: Yes. Um sure it's not to test our artistic Anthony Brown: Uh no. Len Corbeil: It's a mouse. Anthony Brown: A mouse-y? Jeffrey Morgan: That's not a mouse-y, no. Len Corbeil: No it's not a mouse. It's a wombat. Anthony Brown: Oh. Jeffrey Morgan: It's a ratty. Anthony Brown: Argh. Len Corbeil: A what? Jeffrey Morgan: A Anthony Brown: Rat. Jeffrey Morgan: ratty. Anthony Brown: Not a mouse, Len Corbeil: A Anthony Brown: a Len Corbeil: webbed Anthony Brown: rat. Len Corbeil: foot. Webbed f Jeffrey Morgan: It's clothes. That's Len Corbeil: Oh Jeffrey Morgan: it's clothes. Len Corbeil: right. Jeffrey Morgan: It's a ratty with a with a with a very long tail. Anthony Brown: And your Jeffrey Morgan: I love Anthony Brown: favourite Jeffrey Morgan: whiskers. Anthony Brown: characteristics of that animal. Jeffrey Morgan: Uh they're intelligent and they're cheeky and uh fantastic pets and very Anthony Brown: Oh. Jeffrey Morgan: friendly. Anthony Brown: Okay. Jeffrey Morgan: And Anthony Brown: Kate? Jeffrey Morgan: they sit on your shoulder and whisper the answers to your homework in your ear when you're doing your homework. Jose West: Thanks. Anthony Brown: Oh, a fish. Jeffrey Morgan: A shark? Len Corbeil: Gosh, why didn't I think of fish? That's even easier to draw than cat. Jose West: Mm this is very representational fish. Anthony Brown: Oh, okay. Fine. Jose West: Um I like Anthony Brown: Favourite Jose West: them Anthony Brown: characteristics? Jose West: because they're sleek and they have a lot of freedom but they also do n uh swim in groups, so. Anthony Brown: 'Kay. So Jose West: Do Anthony Brown: they Jose West: you Anthony Brown: have Jose West: have a favourite Anthony Brown: team Jose West: one? Anthony Brown: elements. I'm afraid I'm with Steph. And I think your pen's running out of whatever. But I'm afraid I take the coward's way out, and the cat's looking the other way. He's hiding. Um cats are sometimes very independent. My parents had cats. Uh and they can mm decide for themselves what is best. Okay. Now um we have to get down to the nitty-gritty of how to make this and this remote control has to be sold um we're to sell it for twenty five Euros, with a profit aim ultimately of fifty million Euros. That tells you something about how many um we have to sell on an international scale. Um would be an awful lot of these, would be like what, a hundred million of them um to make twenty five Euros on each one and to make a total profit of fifty million. Um the production is to only cost twelve and a half Euros per item. Now if they cost twelve and a half, you're selling it for twenty five, you're making twelve and a half Euros each. Um and we're to make a profit of fifty million, that's t uh can you do the maths and how many are we selling? Jose West: Uh yeah. I was just wondering if that's the um If fifty percent is normal Anthony Brown: Mark-up? Jose West: B yeah. Um I would think would be more like sixty percent. But um Anthony Brown: Okay. Jose West: let Jose West I have two thoughts. fifty percent. And and your question is how many do we have to sell? Anthony Brown: Yes, 'cause our market um is international and your problem is has to do with marketing of you know, you gotta know how many we're going Jose West: At twenty Anthony Brown: to be selling Jose West: five. Anthony Brown: to know how big a market you have to target Jose West: Mm-hmm. Anthony Brown: and who is that. Jose West: Yeah, that's um Anthony Brown: To give you a pretty good idea of where you're looking. Jose West: So that's four million of them? Anthony Brown: Something like that? Okay. Jose West: Yeah. Anthony Brown: That's fifty million Euros. In order Jose West: And if Anthony Brown: to make Jose West: we make Anthony Brown: fifty million Euros, and you're only getting twelve and a half each Jose West: Mm-hmm. Anthony Brown: That's a lot of selling. Jose West: Yeah. Anthony Brown: Two four Jose West: Four million. Anthony Brown: To be fifty, be four million. You'd have to sell four million. Jose West: Hmm. Anthony Brown: Okay? Right. Experience with a remote control. Any of you use of remote control for a television or D_V_D_ or something? Len Corbeil: That Anthony Brown: You're Jose West: Yeah. Anthony Brown: both Len Corbeil: that that's Anthony Brown: nodding, Len Corbeil: the sorta Anthony Brown: all Len Corbeil: product Anthony Brown: three. Len Corbeil: we're talking about, one that will work for a in a home environment, for a Anthony Brown: Well Len Corbeil: T_V_s and Anthony Brown: I've seen some remote controls that are for more than one device at a time, but I also have heard about them not working well or not well co-ordinated and you wind up working with this one for thi this three and then this Jeffrey Morgan: It Anthony Brown: one Jeffrey Morgan: is Anthony Brown: over here Jeffrey Morgan: true Anthony Brown: for another. Jeffrey Morgan: you know, you're sitting on your sofa and you wanna change something, there's five different remotes, and one for the D_V_D_ and one for the video and one Jose West: Mm-hmm. Jeffrey Morgan: for cable and one for Jose West: Y yeah. Jeffrey Morgan: whatever Anthony Brown: And they don't Jeffrey Morgan: else. Anthony Brown: always Jeffrey Morgan: But I presume Anthony Brown: talk to Jeffrey Morgan: this Anthony Brown: each Jeffrey Morgan: is Anthony Brown: other. Jeffrey Morgan: t I presume this is just for television. Anthony Brown: Don't know. Okay. Are there any um ideas for the remote? What would it be for and what group would be be for? We have to think about that one. Jose West: We could make a Hello Kitty themed remote. Jeffrey Morgan: I think one in b bright colours would be good. Jose West: Yeah. We Len Corbeil: I Jose West: could Len Corbeil: think Jose West: totally Len Corbeil: one that works Jose West: go for Len Corbeil: would Jose West: the Len Corbeil: be good. Jose West: Japan-a-mation. Well I mean there's also the cachet that um uh the Japanese make great products. Electrical their industrial design is very good. Jeffrey Morgan: I think one that doesn't have lots of superfluous functions. Like I've got one at home that has well, apart from the obvious, channels, channel up, channel down, volume, Jose West: Yeah. Jeffrey Morgan: you know, subtitles, mute, there's a lotta buttons that I've got no idea what they do, like. Jose West: Well, that's a really good point, because I think Anthony Brown: Okay. Jose West: one of the things that being somewhat computer literate, we tend to um go to menus and then make choices, you know, so if it's like an uh volume button, you know, you can go in and say mute or or volume. We don't need to have like the l the numbers if we also have uh Jeffrey Morgan: Mm. Jose West: uh channel up channel down. Anthony Brown: Mm. Jose West: Mm. Anthony Brown: Okay. Jose West: We can make it smart like an iPod, you know, make everything menus. Jeffrey Morgan: Ooh, closing the meeting. Anthony Brown: Yeah. Um Jeffrey Morgan: That was quick. Anthony Brown: I know this sounds like it was very quick, but the I think that's the industrial design Len Corbeil: Mm. Anthony Brown: is the first one, that's Kate, Len Corbeil: Mm-hmm. Anthony Brown: for the working design. And user, that's you S Steph, for the technical functions design, and for marketing the user requirements specification. I think there's going to be a lot of we have to help each other and work through this as a group, and I think we all, you know, we like our kitty-cat and our rat and our fish, but I think we all have to like each other um to get this done. says, we're gonna get individual instructions, but uh I don't think they allowed a lot of extra time, so I think a little bit of less of this and more at do will set us in good stead. Do you all agree? Jeffrey Morgan: Mm-hmm. Len Corbeil: Mm-hmm. Anthony Brown: Alright. Um then I don't see any reason to prolong it and f we should finish this meeting at ni right now and go into other things. Alright, so this is the end of the first meeting. Jose West: Okay. Len Corbeil: 'Kay. Anthony Brown: Thank you all.

Anthony Brown opened the meeting by stating the agenda and then introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the particular animal. Anthony Brown briefed the team on the production and selling costs of the remote they are to create. Anthony Brown also briefed the team on the profit aim and discussed how many remotes must be sold in order to reach the profit aim of 50 million Euro. The team then discussed their experiences using remote controls and what features in terms of functionality and appearance to consider in making the remote.

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Kirk Alexander: Hi Kate. Chad Saenphimmacha: Just just Kirk Alexander: Okay, Chad Saenphimmacha: carry Kirk Alexander: carry Chad Saenphimmacha: on. Kirk Alexander: on Alright. um this is the beginning of the third meeting, the conceptual design meeting. Um our agenda should be um that we're opening the meeting, I have the minutes from the previous meeting are on the shared f drive at this point. Um and we should each have a presentation to make. Um we have certain decisions to make and we have forty minutes total. It's twenty five after two at the moment, so forty minutes is five after three um, which I'll be keeping an eye on the clock for us. Okay. Um there are the decisions we have to turn to, but we'll come back to them in a minute after I take us to the minutes of the previous meeting. Right um as we remember, I opened the meeting, the four of us were present, the meeting the first meeting's minutes were reviewed and approved. Um Sarah, you presented a marketing research report um which pretty much rep represented that fifteen to thirty five year olds uh it has to be hand-held, power, channel, volume, number keys, possibly a speech recognition. And then Steph did a second presentation um that those functions plus streamlining them with big user-friendly keys that were easy to use. I think all of us agreed with those things. Kate presented a working design of going after going over the basics on the whiteboard um that it should be a simple mass-produced device, because of the twelve and a half Pence cost. Um but we did talk about possibly using rechargeable batteries and having a docking place as a selling point. Um and the new requirements that it for be for T_V_ only um and that it include the l so slogan and colour of the uh corporate design be included. Um the corporate image. So we agreed that the target market would be fifteen to thirty five with more money than sense, that were decision makers. Alternatively it would be a manufacturer to enclose it with the T_V_, but it still should meet those parameters. Um and that the function we agreed was volume, power, numbers, enter, channels, a way to move between channels, easy to use and hand-held. Um at that point we agreed that Sarah would look at the current cost of competition, what what do the current ones sell for. Um and Steph was gonna look at ec ergonomics. Kate was gonna look at cost and feasibility of the various possibilities that we discussed. And I was to type up these minutes and work on the final report. Is this a fair presentation of Thomas Horton: Yeah. Kirk Alexander: what our last meeting was? Thomas Horton: Yes. Chad Saenphimmacha: Mm-hmm. Kirk Alexander: Okay. Right. So we're ready to close that and go back to our That one. Right. We're up to the point of the Go back. Um the three presentations. So we're going to pull the plug on Ike Clemens and turn to Sarah. Is that okay? Is that alright with everybody else? Thomas Horton: Yep. Chad Saenphimmacha: Mm-hmm. Kirk Alexander: Especially since Kate asked to be last. Sarah, I'm sorry if I misspelled your name, I didn't know whether it was S_A_R_A_ or S_A_R_H_. Ike Clemens: I respond to either. No Kirk Alexander: You respond Ike Clemens: worries. Kirk Alexander: to whatever you get, huh? Okay. Kirk Alexander: Um, did you do your Thomas Horton: Yeah, Kirk Alexander: Hit Ah, there it is. Ta-da. Ike Clemens: Okay, first thing I want to address is um one of the points that Florence brought up, which was uh current cost of the competition devices, similar to the ones that Stephanie uh showed us and and they're uh twenty to sixty Euros, depending on uh branding. Thomas Horton: Right Ike Clemens: Some of them that have a higher brand recognition are on the more expensive end. But I think that with the current um price that we're searching for, we're well within, even on end, of the uh of the market. Kirk Alexander: Mm 'kay. Ike Clemens: But I'm going to move on to more interesting um more vibrant things. So, I investigated the remote control market in greater detail, and my uh the theme of what I was to work on was uh trend watch. And Kirk Alexander: 'Kay. Chad Saenphimmacha: Sorry. I'm glad to see the marketing budget is being so well spent on. Ike Clemens: I know that you all are a distance from cutting edge marketing research, so you know, I'm just gonna try to cloak it in really professional terms here. What's hot, fruit and veg. Spongy. And this is all over the catwalks, Paris, Milan, and I'm talking about clothing, furniture, shoes. This is really interesting change from past years, because Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: it is much more organic, um some would say approachable. And I think if we're to refashion our view of what we want in a remote control, we should perhaps think about incorporating technologically interesting fabrics and some of the bold colours into a simple handset. So. I also did a little research on um what again are the most important priorities in uh decision making about uh purchasing. Fancy. Functional is out. And f the fancy, and that's exactly the term, I'm I'm thinking polished, elegant, you know, kind of innovative, but a cut above. This is twice as important as the next finding, which is technologically innovative. This is interesting, 'cause I think in the last meeting we were talking about technology as being so important, but maybe what's innovative is having it simple with um with uh technologically superior fabrics or uh, you know, designed in interesting substances. Ease of use. Again, pretty low, I mean it's the top three, but each of the uh fancy and technologically innovative are far more important. So I think we should cloak the streamlined remote control device in a series of fruit fruit themed sleeves. Chad Saenphimmacha: I think that's a good idea. Don't Ike Clemens: Y Chad Saenphimmacha: you? Ike Clemens: yeah, Thomas Horton: Yes. Kirk Alexander: It Ike Clemens: you know Kirk Alexander: sounds like the the uh covers that they use for the Ike Clemens: Exactly. Kirk Alexander: remote, you know, your t your cell phone. Ike Clemens: Exactly. I was thinking though that instead of having something uh like patterned, you know, so, you know, something similar to a summer dress. you know, it would Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: have like fruit and veg, is that we actually make these spongy. They could be ini initially I thought we could start with kind of um fruit that would suit kind of uh a long uh hand-held, so banana, pineapple and pear. Um it could actually the sleeve could take up a lot of the development and the remote control, we'd just need to get reductionist on it. They could be interchangeable, they're spongy, that goes back to ergonomic, and the youngsters love 'em, fun for the whole family, everyone can have their own. So what we're talking about is changing. this concept. Everyone has a T_V_ remote, but then we add in the fact that they could each have their own individual fruit. That's what's hot on the catwalks. So, this is my This is what I'm thinking. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Uh-huh mm. In most families, don't isn't the remote is a remote. Ike Clemens: Y yeah, but I think I think what this would allow is perhaps a person in the family who had the most opinion about it we all need a remote, but Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: the person who is really perhaps active in personalising, I'm thinking the teenager, the someone fifteen to thirty five would go out and get this additional thing the same way as you mentioned that people would get the cell Thomas Horton: So Ike Clemens: phone covers. Thomas Horton: when your dad's sitting there, overriding your decision, going no we're gonna watch this, you can bring out your own remote and be like zap, no we're gonna watch this. Ike Clemens: Yeah. W and Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: plus I think Kirk Alexander: Well actually some households do have three and four Ike Clemens: Uh yeah. Kirk Alexander: T_V_s Ike Clemens: Yeah. Kirk Alexander: and they would have a remote for each one, so. Ike Clemens: Yeah. So this is an idea and I I you know, this is exactly what the research has uh has shown. So I really open this up to uh any other feedback. This spongy fruit and veg. Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah, Ike Clemens: Thanks. Chad Saenphimmacha: I I think we're gonna have some trouble when we get down to the component design Ike Clemens: Alright. Chad Saenphimmacha: on this. Thomas Horton: Yep. Chad Saenphimmacha: Spongy Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: is gonna be difficult, I'm afraid. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Thomas Horton: And as for as for um well budgeting as well, if we're gonna have lots of different interchangeable components. Ike Clemens: I I just have my ear to the market, Thomas Horton: Is this Ike Clemens: guys. Thomas Horton: to the market? Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah, I mean basically we can make these things out of wood, titanium, plastic or rubber. I rubber is the closest Ike Clemens: Is spongiest, Chad Saenphimmacha: to spongy, yeah. Ike Clemens: yeah. That would add Chad Saenphimmacha: I was thinking titanium Thomas Horton: I was Chad Saenphimmacha: myself. Thomas Horton: titanium I was thinking it's just I have been influenced by pictures of iPods, Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: and they're also minimalist and shiny. Ike Clemens: They are and they they would fulfil the uh first um priority, which is fancy. I think many of us would associate those with fancy. Something else we could do is uh call it something that's fruit and veg oriented. We could call it uh Kirk Alexander: Are we talking about the Ike Clemens: The name. Kirk Alexander: device itself or the c or a cover for the device that would be an interchangeable cov cover as a separate product? Ike Clemens: Well it would be uh a a very simple product that would have a spongy sleeve that would be interchangeable. Kirk Alexander: Perhaps Ike Clemens: So Thomas Horton: Yeah, but it's kind Kirk Alexander: perhaps Thomas Horton: of pointless, Kirk Alexander: that desi Thomas Horton: isn't Kirk Alexander: that Thomas Horton: it? Kirk Alexander: particular suggestion needs to go back to management and perhaps go to another group to actually design as a Thomas Horton: Yeah. Kirk Alexander: separate product. Ike Clemens: That, you know, that Thomas Horton: Let's Ike Clemens: might be Thomas Horton: delegate. Kirk Alexander: Wo would Ike Clemens: And Kirk Alexander: that Ike Clemens: then Kirk Alexander: be Ike Clemens: we could Kirk Alexander: agreeable? Ike Clemens: keep it Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Ike Clemens: titanium. Chad Saenphimmacha: W w would it be helpful if um I described the components a bit, because I think it would give you um maybe bring this discussion back to Earth of what we can actually physically do. Thomas Horton: Yeah, maybe. Or Kirk Alexander: Do you wanna be next or you want Kate to go next? Thomas Horton: I think possibly it might be more useful if Kate went next. Kirk Alexander: Okay, we'll move the Thomas Horton: Um Thomas Horton: You can even have them in different flavours as well. So that if you just wanna sit there and chew on the remote, it could be like Ike Clemens: Yeah. Thomas Horton: pear Ike Clemens: Or Thomas Horton: flavour, Ike Clemens: s or smelly. Thomas Horton: yeah. Ike Clemens: Scratchy Thomas Horton: Scratch and sniff. Ike Clemens: Uh well I was really thinking a lot about the I_ uh the iMac kind of gel gem tone. It's hot on the streets, Chad Saenphimmacha: Right, Ike Clemens: guys. Chad Saenphimmacha: well I I I think some of this um you're gonna be a little disappointed with some of the things I have to tell you, but I'm afraid this is the real world. So um I've been looking at the the basics of how these devices actually have to work in order to operate, and I've had some discussions with the ma manufacturing division, who have told Ike Clemens what's actually available, you know, what the current state of the art in components is, and some of the exciting new things they've got, but I'm not sure that it's quite what you want um. Now this isn't a very good overhead, but this is just to show you, this is the innards of a remote control um. I really need a pen or something but uh does my mouse work? No. Um oh yeah, can you see my little mouse pointer? Kirk Alexander: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Right. This is this is the a a a remote that's been opened up Kirk Alexander: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: and that's the the back of the interface. And this is a push-button one, so you see these little little buttons here, they're little rubber rubber buttons that go through onto the the board at the back and they push these buttons here. Um and we that's the basic construction that we've got to got to accommodate. We got to have something that pushes the little buttons that um talk to the chip that encodes the message that sends the the message to the receiver. So um I wan I wanna go through not not just addressing the um uh the the points that you made, Sarah, but um doing my presentation in the order I wrote it. So first of all um I wanna talk about what possibilities we've got for the energy source. Um we can have your bog standard double double A_ batteries in a replaceable um little compartment. We can have a hand sorry Thomas Horton: A wind-up. Chad Saenphimmacha: a wind-up, yeah, which I think is quite an interesting concept for a sorry for a remote control, but i it maybe is doesn't quite go with the um the fruit and veg. Um Kirk Alexander: Alright. Chad Saenphimmacha: one that one that I think is quite interesting is the Kirk Alexander: Remember, Chad Saenphimmacha: kinetic Kirk Alexander: we only Chad Saenphimmacha: energy Kirk Alexander: have Chad Saenphimmacha: source, Kirk Alexander: forty minutes Chad Saenphimmacha: where um Ike Clemens: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: you you actually get the energy by moving the device, which is quite Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: a ni a nice and neat one. You have to it means that if it's sitting there for a long time it probably won't work, but you have to sort of throw it between your hands every now and then, it'll work. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Or we we had talked about solar power, but I thing that we agreed that that's not so good in the dark. Kirk Alexander: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Now I'm afraid this is the options we've got on on the case. It can be made of plastic, rubber, wood o if you like, or titanium. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Um and the nearest we've got to st to spongy there I guess is rubber, but um Ike Clemens: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: I'm gonna come back to the advantages of titanium, and basically it can have a flat surface, a curved surface or a double curved surface, but I think if we wanna use standard components, we're gonna have difficulty with anything much beyond that. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Okay, what does the interface look like? Um well push button, that's that's the one we're all familiar with. Um we can have scroll buttons and the the scroll button Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: can incorporate a push, so you can have it like on a mouse where you can use it to go up and down, change volume or channel or something like that and push to select something. Um you can have multiple scroll buttons, um this is maybe getting a little bit complicated, but um it's it the technology is there. And we can also incorporate an L_C_D_ display in the remote, but this will increase the cost. Um the electronics that actually makes the device work, we've basically got three, simple, regular, advanced, and the price goes up as we choose each of this. If we want the nice cheap one, the simple, then we can only have push buttons. All the other fancy interface designs go out the window, I'm afraid. Um pay a little bit more for a regular chip and you can have scroll buttons. If you want the advanced chip it obviously costs more, the L_C_D_ display. And the manufacturing devision tell Ike Clemens that they have recently developed um sample sensor sample speaker devices. Now I don't know what that is, but I think they think it's quite important and we might want to incorporate it somewhere. Um ou our real expertise is in push buttons, I have to say, but maybe you think that's old technology. Ike Clemens: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: And well I I think we've got two options. We can either go for a really cheap model, keep all of the costs down, um which means a flat plastic case with an ordinary battery and simple push buttons. Or we can have something that looks a bit nicer, I think it, um won't necessarily l uh look like a pineapple, but um that may or may not be a good thing. Sorry. Um but it could have an L_C_D_ screen and it could have multiple scroll buttons, and it could have the the company's new development of the um sample sensor and speaker. So, thank you. Ike Clemens: That sounds good. Any idea you you mentioned that there would be a cost difference. Um do you have any idea if if this could if the fancy model could be done in twelve Euros fifty? Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah, I'm afraid I don't have that information available. Um manufacturing didn't actually give attach any prices to any of this, I'm afraid. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Because, you know what, I'm being quite serious when I say that that um the things I mentioned are hot. But I think the important thing might be to choose one. You know, if Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah Ike Clemens: if what you're telling Chad Saenphimmacha: mm-hmm. Ike Clemens: Ike Clemens is is um some of these things aren't just f aren't feasible, maybe we could something about naming, we could call it, you know, Blackberry. That's Thomas Horton: Bear Ike Clemens: uh Thomas Horton: bear in mind it has to be the colours and styles of the company, so what I had been thinking was something chunky and yellow and plastic with black buttons with Chad Saenphimmacha: Banana? Thomas Horton: a logo on it. Ike Clemens: Alright, well let's see then. Thomas Horton: But um I I don't know how important that is Ike Clemens: Yeah. Thomas Horton: to keep it exactly the colours of the Real Reaction company. It's just what I'd understood Ike Clemens: Yeah. Thomas Horton: we'd be doing. That's before I heard about all this hot tips about the future, fruit-wise. Ike Clemens: But yeah, I'm trying Chad Saenphimmacha: We Ike Clemens: to Chad Saenphimmacha: we Ike Clemens: streamline Chad Saenphimmacha: could we could Ike Clemens: mine Chad Saenphimmacha: do Ike Clemens: a little Chad Saenphimmacha: um Ike Clemens: bit. Chad Saenphimmacha: a double curved rubber one, which would allow um say a banana, but um unfortunately I see from my notes that if we do that, we have to have a push button as Ike Clemens: Yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: the interface, we can't do anything fancier. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Thomas Horton: Shall we wait 'til I've Ike Clemens: Yeah. Thomas Horton: 'til I've showed you what well, my extensive presentation on what sort of interfaces are available. Ike Clemens: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Yep. Ike Clemens: Thank you, Kate. Kirk Alexander: Thank you, Kate. Ike Clemens: Mm. Thomas Horton: You did seem to include just in more detail what I've got though. So so mine's a bit pointless. Right. F_N_ and F_ eight, did you Kirk Alexander: Yes. Thomas Horton: say? Kirk Alexander: There we go. Thomas Horton: I don't have it on mine though. Ike Clemens: Oh I think um Florence resolved it by Chad Saenphimmacha: I If you do F_ Ike Clemens: F_ eight Kirk Alexander: Do Ike Clemens: again. Kirk Alexander: it again. Chad Saenphimmacha: uh F_N_ F_ eight again, it's it'll Kirk Alexander: Keep doing it until you get it in both you get it Chad Saenphimmacha: I think Kirk Alexander: there, Chad Saenphimmacha: it Kirk Alexander: you get it Chad Saenphimmacha: yeah, Kirk Alexander: yours Chad Saenphimmacha: you Kirk Alexander: without Chad Saenphimmacha: you will do Kirk Alexander: that Chad Saenphimmacha: an Kirk Alexander: one, and then you get it with both. Thomas Horton: Should I do it again? Ike Clemens: Maybe. Kirk Alexander: Yeah. This time it should come up both. Thomas Horton: Right then. I don't actually have a huge amount of different information then what Kirk Alexander: Okay. Thomas Horton: Kate says, just that my method was to look at the, well, my my inspirations, which was a big collection of lots of different models of Kirk Alexander: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: remote controls and other things that use a similar sort of thing, including M_P_ three players, uh like you know, hi-fi remotes, not Kirk Alexander: Mm. Thomas Horton: just television and these things. Uh having a think about the feature of ea the features of each ones, um what functions we actually need, and then how to group and arrange these on the actual the actual plastic or rubber hand-held piece. Uh I've been especially interested in the iPod style scroll wheel, which Well, I couldn't find a the picture of the iPod w only linked to a web browser, so I couldn't copy and paste it, but it had a similar thing to this thing on the right. It has uh scroll wheels without without a display, but they they scroll like a computer mouse. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Thomas Horton: So I was thinking Chad Saenphimmacha: Hmm. Thomas Horton: that uh um a really simple a really simple interface with just a couple of scroll things on it um and then instead of a display the display could appear on the television screen. Like I guess an existing Sky or cable one does. Like, you know, you press enter and it comes up with what's showing on that channel at the moment, and you can do you can scroll along and it'll show you what's on in the next half hour, and you scroll up and you can see what's on the other channels while you're watching the same channel on the screen. Uh but I'm also equally taken with this chunky plastic kiddie remote, Ike Clemens: Mm. Thomas Horton: um which is really nice and fun and good to hold and nice, big, easy buttons to press, but still quite simple and quite cost effective. So what seems kind of ideal for Ike Clemens would be to just have a fairly simple, uh not fancy but not totally minimalist, I mean just pretty simple plastic, probably, I was thinking, yellow and black, just because that's the company's colours, with very very few buttons, but that would correspond to a screen that would appear on the television screen, like, you know, just small along the bottom instead of instead of having the iPod style display screen on the actual remotes, which is far too expensive. Chad Saenphimmacha: Hmm. Thomas Horton: And when Kirk Alexander: Mm. Thomas Horton: you've got a screen sitting there in front of you, you might as well have it appearing uh on the screen in front of you, it doesn't obscure much of the actual picture you're watching. Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: And so on that you can, just much in the same way as an existing Sky remote, scroll along, scroll up and Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah, I'd I'd certainly Thomas Horton: down. Chad Saenphimmacha: support Thomas Horton: And Chad Saenphimmacha: that Thomas Horton: uh Chad Saenphimmacha: idea. Thomas Horton: and I definitely support uh the use of plastic and or rubber. I mean titanium would be great, but I think it might be a bit too expensive and too kinda spacey. If we're k trying to keep it colourful and slightly organic, then I think titanium's too futuristic. Chad Saenphimmacha: It's difficult to make fancy shapes in it as well, we can't for example Thomas Horton: Yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: have a double curved case in titanium unfortunately. Thomas Horton: Whereas a plastic's so cheap and easy and mouldable and everything else. Ike Clemens: Hmm. Thomas Horton: Uh then Chad Saenphimmacha: And the the having the the the screen on the television screen I think is a good idea, 'cause um otherwise we're we're putting up the price not only for putting building the L_C_D_ in, but for the electronics as well. Thomas Horton: And it's a little bit pointless as well I think. Ike Clemens: It's Thomas Horton: Like Chad Saenphimmacha: There Ike Clemens: a Chad Saenphimmacha: is Ike Clemens: duplication. Thomas Horton: when Chad Saenphimmacha: that. Thomas Horton: when when you've got when you've got the screen there, it doesn't have to be anything fancy just, a little menu showing yeah, a menu, you go into one menu and then it can have your different options, whether you wanna change the settings or the Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: you know, your information about programme that's on at the moment. I don't think that's to taxing to uh s engineer. Um. But as for actually arranging them let Ike Clemens go back to the to the picture of the kiddie one. And I quite like it, 'cause it's just smooth and hand-held and it's got these easily reachable buttons that quite nicely uh spaced out, so something a bit like that with buttons arranged in a kind of circle. Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: Up, down, left, right. Chad Saenphimmacha: Do you want scroll buttons in that as well? Thomas Horton: I I was thinking not actually scroll, like a like mouse scroll, but you know, a I can't quite d uh describe it. you see on the one on the right, down at the bottom, is the mouse. Yeah, see where the mouse is, like Chad Saenphimmacha: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: this s style thing where you c have up, down, left and right. Chad Saenphimmacha: Right. Thomas Horton: And enter in the middle, so you pick your menu and then your different options and when when you click on each one, it you can go into a new menu for that. I'm getting a bit uh specific here. Really we'd have to Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: use Chad Saenphimmacha: I think Thomas Horton: something Chad Saenphimmacha: I think Thomas Horton: to Chad Saenphimmacha: that's Thomas Horton: show Chad Saenphimmacha: a g Thomas Horton: you, Chad Saenphimmacha: nice clean Thomas Horton: but Chad Saenphimmacha: design, it's playing to our strengths which are in push button technology. Ike Clemens: To uh Thomas Horton: If I don't think I Ike Clemens: m Thomas Horton: can get it up on Ike Clemens: make Thomas Horton: the screen. Ike Clemens: it. Thomas Horton: Ah here we go. Right. Ike Clemens: Oh nice. Um Thomas Horton: Well, the iPod Ike Clemens: Hmm. Thomas Horton: spinning wheel is uh really complicated. Kirk Alexander: Huh. Thomas Horton: It does Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: scroll, but it is hugely complicated. Ike Clemens: Mm. Thomas Horton: What else have we got? Ike Clemens: Wow. Thomas Horton: Them, they're terrible. But they all have this this feature of this uh It's not quite a scroll wheel, but Kirk Alexander: It's a selection wheel. Thomas Horton: it's a kind of selection in this circle, which I think is a really good idea. Chad Saenphimmacha: But we can implement it with simple push buttons, Thomas Horton: Yeah, Chad Saenphimmacha: which is much cheaper. Thomas Horton: like up, down, left and right. Which is good. And then and then Yeah, so I mean either a channel up and down, volume up and down, next appearing programmes up and down, uh and then also when you get into the different menus on the screen, it's got your things like settings and contrast Kirk Alexander: Okay. Thomas Horton: up and down. So all you really need is these four buttons with the enter in the middle. Kirk Alexander: Okay. Thomas Horton: And that's it. Chad Saenphimmacha: In fact Thomas Horton: Look at look at this one. Chad Saenphimmacha: Oh that's really nice. Thomas Horton: Almost impossible to misplace or l or lose. Ike Clemens: Do you think with Thomas Horton: Might Ike Clemens: um Thomas Horton: take up your whole living room. Ike Clemens: It seems that that uh you guys are quite keen on the plastic, perhaps the something reminiscent of the child's remote. Do you think we could put it in a in a fruit colour? And have it abstract. You know, we could call Thomas Horton: Possibly. Ike Clemens: like a fruit Thomas Horton: Yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: Hmm. Ike Clemens: name, but it would be a little more abstract. Chad Saenphimmacha: Mm. Thomas Horton: That also Chad Saenphimmacha: We we Thomas Horton: is Chad Saenphimmacha: could Thomas Horton: possible. Chad Saenphimmacha: actually do it in rubber instead of Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: plastic if you'd rather Ike Clemens: I'm Chad Saenphimmacha: if Thomas Horton: Just Ike Clemens: just Chad Saenphimmacha: you feel Ike Clemens: just Chad Saenphimmacha: if you Ike Clemens: throwing Kirk Alexander: Or Chad Saenphimmacha: like Kirk Alexander: call Chad Saenphimmacha: the Ike Clemens: out Chad Saenphimmacha: spongy Ike Clemens: ideas. Kirk Alexander: it a or call it a banana and have Chad Saenphimmacha: Hmm. Kirk Alexander: it in yellow. Ike Clemens: Yeah. I'm thinking maybe we need to be a little bit more abstract if the design Kirk Alexander: Okay. Ike Clemens: constraints Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Ike Clemens: are so Thomas Horton: Uh just something else I need to bring to your attention is have you have you seen these on a remote? This is actually the volume up and down, but Kirk Alexander: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: they both say V_ on them, Kirk Alexander: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: which, when you first look at it, you expect that to be the down, because Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: it looks like a downward pointing arrow, but it's Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Thomas Horton: actually the V_ to indicate that it's the volume, Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: so uh we do need to avoid little ambiguities like these. Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Ike Clemens: Nice. Good point. Thomas Horton: But we wouldn't have a specific volume up and down. If we're having the scroll wheel, then it's gonna double up as all the other up and down functions. Kirk Alexander: Mm 'kay. Thomas Horton: But then, that's complicated. Kirk Alexander: I wanna thank you all for all your presentations. We have about ten minutes left, in which time we have to make some decisions on the remote control concepts. Um and I think you all have been self-stimulating of working together. Um we need to come up with some specifics of Kirk Alexander: the interface type things. So let's Mm. Right. They want us to decide what form of energy are we going to use, which the choices that we've discussed were pretty much battery, kinetic or solar. Um this is where Kate's expertise comes in, and our decision making will be a little bit guided by Kate at this point. The You were saying that the kinetic would be useful, that is you just have to move it some and you'd be able to use it um as opposed to a battery that you have to either put it in a recharger or um keep replacing the batteries. Um or solar that you'd have difficulty with it if it's a dark day, that it'll die on you, and no way to do it. That's the day you wanna use the T_V_. Chad Saenphimmacha: Mm. Kirk Alexander: Um so what's our pleasure here, what would be the cost consequences of each of the three? Chad Saenphimmacha: Oh unfortunately I don't have costing information. Kirk Alexander: Okay. Chad Saenphimmacha: I i in terms of workability, I I think the the two front-runners are the standard battery or the kinetic, but I'm Kirk Alexander: Mm 'kay. Chad Saenphimmacha: sorry I don't figures on the difference in cost. Kirk Alexander: What's the uh feelings of the group on the kinetic? Ike Clemens: I've used kinetic in terms of watches and it's very very uh handy, you don't even notice um Thomas Horton: It sounds Ike Clemens: that it's Thomas Horton: great. Ike Clemens: there. Thomas Horton: I've never come across it before, but it sounds fantastic. Sounds Ike Clemens: It's Thomas Horton: like it could be g a really good economical Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: it would make the whole thing a lot lighter, more convenient. Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Ike Clemens: It could tie in with the fanciful design as Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Thomas Horton: Yeah. Ike Clemens: uh, Thomas Horton: 'Cause Ike Clemens: you Thomas Horton: it's really a quite attractive Ike Clemens: know, throw Thomas Horton: thought, Ike Clemens: the banana, Thomas Horton: isn't it? Ike Clemens: you Thomas Horton: It's Ike Clemens: know, Thomas Horton: like Ike Clemens: just gotta keep it moving. Thomas Horton: yeah, a good Kirk Alexander: So Ike Clemens: Be Thomas Horton: selling Kirk Alexander: the consensus Thomas Horton: point. Kirk Alexander: seems to be use the kinetic if it's at all possible. Thomas Horton: But it does depend how much Kirk Alexander: It costs. Thomas Horton: I mean how much it costs and how much more development and research it needs. Ike Clemens: Yeah. Kirk Alexander: Mm. Chad Saenphimmacha: And and how much you do have to keep it moving, Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: Yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: 'cause I'm conscious that watching T_V_ can be quite a sed sedentary activity. Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. But I could Kirk Alexander: Mm. Ike Clemens: market that as a um as a Thomas Horton: Do your exercises while you're watching Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: the Ike Clemens: a Thomas Horton: T_V_. Ike Clemens: I was thinking actually a a cost saver down the road, in terms of battery, Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Chad Saenphimmacha: True, Ike Clemens: you know. Chad Saenphimmacha: yeah, m more more environmentally friendly. Thomas Horton: Yeah, Ike Clemens: Mm-hmm. Thomas Horton: that's what I Kirk Alexander: Yeah. Thomas Horton: was thinking as Ike Clemens: You Thomas Horton: well. Ike Clemens: know, kind of the Kirk Alexander: Thanks for the reminder for five minutes to finish, thanks. Um the next thing that they wanted us to do was look at chip on print as a decision. Chad Saenphimmacha: Oh right, okay, I'd that that's something I maybe should have covered. Um chip on print is just a manufacturing technique Kirk Alexander: Oh. Chad Saenphimmacha: um and I would certainly recommend it, I think, because I'm not sure I have an alternative. Kirk Alexander: Okay. Chad Saenphimmacha: I i it it's Kirk Alexander: What Chad Saenphimmacha: just Kirk Alexander: about Chad Saenphimmacha: the way Kirk Alexander: the ca Chad Saenphimmacha: that Kirk Alexander: yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: the the the Kirk Alexander: Oh, Chad Saenphimmacha: uh Kirk Alexander: the way we Chad Saenphimmacha: th the way it's ac it's actually Kirk Alexander: uh-huh. Chad Saenphimmacha: built and you you print onto the circuit board like you might print onto paper. Kirk Alexander: Oh, okay. Um what about the case? I think they're talking there about do we want wood, plastic, titanium or rubber, and I think we've discussed not having titanium. One, it's too expensive, um and second, it won't do this double um curves. Um we've sort of eliminated wood. We said plastic or rubber. What's the pleasure? Chad Saenphimmacha: Well if if Sarah's keen on a spongy feel, the the rubber that we're talking about is the same as you have in those little stress balls, Ike Clemens: That's Chad Saenphimmacha: so Ike Clemens: exactly Chad Saenphimmacha: it's Ike Clemens: what I was thinking. Chad Saenphimmacha: yeah. Ike Clemens: I'm sold. Kirk Alexander: What about you? Thomas Horton: Do you not think it might need like a kind of a hard plastic inner shell with the actual delicate workings inside, and then a Ike Clemens: Mm. Thomas Horton: kind of spongy Ike Clemens: Kind of like an internal egg. Kirk Alexander: Cover. Thomas Horton: Yeah, s thick Kirk Alexander: Uh-huh. Thomas Horton: spongy cover, so it feels like the whole thing's spongy, but actually you're not damaging anything by Kirk Alexander: Plastic inside. Thomas Horton: squeezing it. Ike Clemens: Yeah. Thomas Horton: Because Chad Saenphimmacha: Yeah. Thomas Horton: I mean you could just Chad Saenphimmacha: I'd Thomas Horton: get Chad Saenphimmacha: I'd Thomas Horton: carried Chad Saenphimmacha: need Thomas Horton: away Chad Saenphimmacha: to talk Thomas Horton: with Chad Saenphimmacha: to manufacturing Thomas Horton: the with the tac Chad Saenphimmacha: again about whether that's actually possible, but I agree, it's uh sounds Thomas Horton: Yeah. Chad Saenphimmacha: like a nice Thomas Horton: Well Chad Saenphimmacha: idea if it Thomas Horton: you Chad Saenphimmacha: is. Thomas Horton: do get a bit carried away with things that are tactile, you just wanna Kirk Alexander: Hmm. Thomas Horton: stroke them and squeeze Ike Clemens: And with sports Thomas Horton: them, Kirk Alexander: Okay. Thomas Horton: and Ike Clemens: on television. You know. Kirk Alexander: Um the Ike Clemens: I Kirk Alexander: next Chad Saenphimmacha: I Ike Clemens: su Chad Saenphimmacha: should Kirk Alexander: part Chad Saenphimmacha: I should Kirk Alexander: they want Chad Saenphimmacha: r Kirk Alexander: is the user interface concept. I'm sorry to push you, but we only have a couple minutes to finish with. Ike Clemens: Then I'll just say I support either from a marketing point of view I support either decision that the designers make on that. Kirk Alexander: Okay, and it says interface. What type and what supplements? Thomas Horton: Just copy the one on the left. No um a scroll Well, like four buttons, up, down, left and right with enter in the middle, that will correspond to a menu on the screen. Chad Saenphimmacha: Which I think technically is just push button and uh I'd certainly support Thomas Horton: Yeah, Chad Saenphimmacha: that that Thomas Horton: I'd Chad Saenphimmacha: that Thomas Horton: like Chad Saenphimmacha: brings Thomas Horton: push Chad Saenphimmacha: the cost Thomas Horton: buttons Chad Saenphimmacha: down quite Thomas Horton: with Chad Saenphimmacha: a lot and it's something that we're an ex the company's an expert on. Thomas Horton: So push buttons Kirk Alexander: Okay, um that's that. Um this is gonna sound weird, but the next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Whew. And they actually want a look and feel design, user interface design, you can look and see this as well as I can. Marketing they want product Thomas Horton: No, Kirk Alexander: evaluation. Thomas Horton: it's Ike Clemens: No Thomas Horton: still Ike Clemens: we can't, actually. Thomas Horton: it's still Kirk Alexander: Oh. Thomas Horton: plugged in on mine Kirk Alexander: Oh Thomas Horton: actually. Kirk Alexander: my, I'm sorry. Ike Clemens: That's why I was looking over your shoulder Kirk Alexander: Oh, okay. Sorry about that. missed that one. This ought to be fun trying to get this thing to work. Ah, ta-da. Thomas Horton: Now it's gone again. Kirk Alexander: Ah. Chad Saenphimmacha: You know, I think the the company's s next project should to design a better overhead device that Kirk Alexander: Yes, Chad Saenphimmacha: switches immediately. Kirk Alexander: because I can't even see mine. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes, Thomas Horton: Oh yes. Kirk Alexander: these are the individual actions. Yeah, right. Um Ike Clemens: Mm. Kirk Alexander: the look and feel design is for Kate, uh Steph gets the user interface design, you get product evaluation. Um the two of you get to play with a Pla modelling clay Thomas Horton: Great. Kirk Alexander: um to do a prototype. Uh and everybody gets individual instructions in the usual way. Ike Clemens: Sounds good. Kirk Alexander: Anything else we need to do? Thomas Horton: I don't think so. Kirk Alexander: Go to it. Thomas Horton: Play-Doh. Kirk Alexander: And that's the end of this meeting. That's for her benefit. Ike Clemens: That's really all I got, guys.

Kirk Alexander opened the meeting and went over the minutes of the previous meeting. Ike Clemens presented findings from trend watching reports and discussed her personal preferences in how to incorporate the results of the trend watching reports into the appearance of the remote. The trend watching reports indicated that products need to reflect a fruit and vegetable theme, sponginess, fanciness, and technological innovation. The team then discussed their target group and whether to use titanium or a spongy material in their design. Chad Saenphimmacha discussed options for energy sources, materials, case shapes, and interface components such as buttons and LCD screens. Thomas Horton examined the interfaces of existing products and discussed using menus within an interface using push buttons which operate like a scroll wheel. The team then discussed and made decisions on what energy sources, chips, case materials, and buttons to use.

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Donald Krawiec: Okay uh Agnes, you James Phillips: Yep. Donald Krawiec: can help Ryan Bradley for the James Phillips: Sure. Donald Krawiec: when okay. Okay, welcome back. I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time. How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting. Okay, and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you. And it's in the, I think uh, in the sharing folder. And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects. So can you go to the next slide? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening. Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management, what I'm going to do, and uh, of course, I'm doing the project management and secretary both, okay, to take the minutes of the meeting. And there are three presentations. One is uh new project requirements. And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions. And uh finally we are closing. Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes, so you have to be very quick. And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal, okay, and I have to discuss a few points on this. Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project. Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded, okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology. So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design. And the second one is about uh the remote control. Should be used only for the T_V_. That's what our uh management says. And the third point, it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image, okay, with this new project or new product. Okay. So I will invite uh Agnes, can you go to the third slide? James Phillips: No, this is the third. Donald Krawiec: Okay, So, I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design. Mark Lee: 'Kay, do you wanna James Phillips: Sure. Mark Lee: open the James Phillips: Um. You're participant s Mark Lee: I'm number. James Phillips: Two? Mark Lee: That's it. James Phillips: Do you want the mouse, or do you want Ryan Bradley to Mark Lee: I'll do the notes. Yeah, thanks. So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements, and from my experience, I wanna uh, and from research I did, uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button, you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point, you know. Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it. Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them. So uh, I also, since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product, thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those, and, as I said in the first meeting, um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction, especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance, and it is reliable, and so forth. I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth, so, I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic, which I kinda like the idea, 'cause it made Ryan Bradley think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off, that might be interesting. And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off, and the sound on and off, and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today, uh James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Mark Lee: fifty years later. And uh it was really a pioneering innovation, but it was uh sensitive to the sun, so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems. So, uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r Ryan Bradley: Fantastic. Mark Lee: um really uh something to keep in mind. It'd be easy to find. And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off, you could use it for something else. And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer, I didn't really know what to do with this slide. But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this, and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board. I don't know why um we were asked to do this. So, uh personal preferences, um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here, and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference. So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it. I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme, be very colourful, or you could make it clear, and um kind of blend in with things, so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home. Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof, because uh sometimes they fall into cups and, you know, it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that. Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not, because half the time, I keep pushing on the remote control, and I don't know if it's actually understood my message, so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue. And uh, course I never wanna replace the battery. So, that's those are my f preferences, and that's my presentation. Donald Krawiec: Yeah, let Ryan Bradley uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility, other feature, like uh unbreakable. Mark Lee: Yes. Donald Krawiec: Okay, because uh especially today, you know, you have the family and the kids, okay, and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes Mark Lee: Run over Donald Krawiec: and. Mark Lee: it with a car. Donald Krawiec: Yes. Okay, so if you can add the feature, okay, for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay, with unbreakable, okay, I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product, Mark Lee: Good Donald Krawiec: if I'm Mark Lee: idea. Donald Krawiec: not wrong. Mark Lee: Good idea, I'll I'll uh um Donald Krawiec: Maybe you can uh add it in that. Mark Lee: Yes, very good. Donald Krawiec: Okay, uh thank you Christine, and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications, or any discussion on the functional design? James Phillips: Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials? 'Cause, for example, in the unbreakable thing, doing something plastic would be harder, whereas Mark Lee: Hmm. James Phillips: having something like, I dunno, steel or titanium Mark Lee: Titanium. James Phillips: isn't really Mark Lee: Titanium Ryan Bradley: Titanium. Mark Lee: would be James Phillips: economically viable. Mark Lee: be heavy, too, wouldn't James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: it? No, I haven't really um I wanted feedback, I think we need to rate rank these, James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: but we'll see what your uh personal James Phillips: Sure, Mark Lee: preferences James Phillips: yeah. Mark Lee: are and your James Phillips: No, I Mark Lee: thoughts. James Phillips: just that you had any sort of Mark Lee: I like titanium. It's light. James Phillips: Yeah. Ryan Bradley: Expensive. Mark Lee: Uh yeah James Phillips: The Mark Lee: but James Phillips: marketing comes Mark Lee: uh who James Phillips: out. Mark Lee: who said who said Donald Krawiec: Yes. Mark Lee: we were, you know, nobody told Ryan Bradley how mu what our financial objective is, so um Donald Krawiec: Yeah Mark Lee: It'd Donald Krawiec: so Mark Lee: be hard to inflate something ou made out Donald Krawiec: Yeah Mark Lee: of titanium Donald Krawiec: the the Mark Lee: though. Donald Krawiec: I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing. Uh let Ryan Bradley go quickly, maybe if I can go back. I know the project plan and the budget. So I can close this, not sure. Was in uh Donald Krawiec: S This. Donald Krawiec: So let Ryan Bradley see where is this file. James Phillips: That's Christine's. Donald Krawiec: This is Christine. James Phillips: And that's mine, Donald Krawiec: That's James Phillips: I think. Donald Krawiec: yours, okay. Saving. James Phillips: In modified. Ryan Bradley: I don't know, I think verbally Donald Krawiec: Okay, Ryan Bradley: we Donald Krawiec: uh Ryan Bradley: can Donald Krawiec: I will I Ryan Bradley: we Donald Krawiec: will Ryan Bradley: can Donald Krawiec: send Ryan Bradley: pretty Donald Krawiec: you Ryan Bradley: much Donald Krawiec: a mail, Ryan Bradley: sell. Donald Krawiec: okay? The project may be the the project aim, okay. At the end of the day, the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro. Okay, and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side. Okay, that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market. Okay. Then uh you can come back with your feedback. And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion. This remote control, okay, it can be for like universal, to use for any T_V_. Okay, and it will be slim, okay, and uh Mark Lee: Not fat? Donald Krawiec: Not fat. Mark Lee: Not fat, huh. Donald Krawiec: Okay. Mark Lee: Might be hard to find, though. Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: Hmm. Donald Krawiec: But let's try it, okay, Mark Lee: Oh, Donald Krawiec: with Mark Lee: okay. Donald Krawiec: the different uh the designs, okay, the functional designs. Okay? So any other questions? Ryan Bradley: Uh from her side, I don't think uh there's too many more questions. Donald Krawiec: Okay. Ryan Bradley: If you can Donald Krawiec: Thank Ryan Bradley: come Donald Krawiec: you Ryan Bradley: to Donald Krawiec: Christine Ryan Bradley: the Donald Krawiec: for uh time being, so then uh Ed, so Ryan Bradley: Okay, Donald Krawiec: can you Ryan Bradley: from Donald Krawiec: tell Ryan Bradley: the Donald Krawiec: about Ryan Bradley: marketing yeah, from the marketing side, just to to give an idea what the management is looking for, I was looking for a a remote control to James Phillips: S Ryan Bradley: have a James Phillips: 'scuse Ryan Bradley: s James Phillips: Ryan Bradley for one sec. Ryan Bradley: I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro with, a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro. For what uh I think from what we're trying to find, we're tr we're looking for, I don't think that price is exactly in the market. Okay? Donald Krawiec: Mm-hmm. Ryan Bradley: I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys, uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five, eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy. Twenty-five Euros, uh that's that's a preson reasonable price. That's a market price right now. Now if we're gonna take a risk, Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: and push this up a bit, make it more expensive, but give them added things that they don't have now, Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: then it w it could possibly sell. Obviously the risk is there. Too expensive, they're not gonna buy. But, I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group, which always spends more money on trendy new things, speech recognition is requested. And we're talking between Mark Lee: Speech recognition?. Ryan Bradley: seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote. Donald Krawiec: Mm-hmm. Ryan Bradley: Obviously, we can't make a remote into a computer, but maybe simple commands. I dunno, louder, softer, on, off. That might be a possibility, even though it costs more, to be the first on the market to produce this. Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use. So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly. Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time. So maybe one word speech recognition commands, say remote, and there's a beep beep beep, and they can find it through, you know, ten tons of newspapers, magazines, whatever you have at home. But, in the cost that uh the management is looking for, that's not gonna be possible. But if it's trendy, if it's fancy, it's got some colour to it, if it's very easy easy to use, if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control, like I said, louder, softer, change channel, on, off, remote, it goes beep beep, I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on. So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea, with the ideas of the industrial uh design. But, price obviously we have to talk about. Donald Krawiec: Yep. So what do you think about uh the design? Do you think you can make it or uh Mark Lee: D uh I'm sorry? Donald Krawiec: What do you think about uh the design, uh what he was talking about Ryan Bradley: Speech recognition. Donald Krawiec: of the speech recognition? Mark Lee: Well, uh training is always an issue with uh commands. Donald Krawiec: Mm-hmm. Mark Lee: So um might uh we can to spend some time in the training process, uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost. Not sure how. But um anyway, um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life. And um so, maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it. So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh, you know, gets James Phillips: Hmm. Mark Lee: uh, from the light, um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things. James Phillips: It seems also like with the speech recognition, yeah, it's a great feature, but if you're watching T_V_, there's a lot of ambient sound, and it's words. It's not just, you know, noises like something hitting. It's actual speech, so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech, and the the user's speech. Otherwise, you can say remote. Mark Lee: Off. James Phillips: But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing, all of a sudden, you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies, because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_. So, I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems, then yeah, it'd be a really good Ryan Bradley: Mm. James Phillips: marketing gimmick. But, I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation. Mark Lee: Very good point. Ryan Bradley: Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Ryan Bradley: if it's a one-word recognition, 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've James Phillips: Yeah. Ryan Bradley: seen in the States, a friend of mine says call Mom, and it calls up Mom. James Phillips: Yeah. Ryan Bradley: 'Kay the radio can be on and everything. Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: Because I think s with speech recognition, if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Ryan Bradley: it has to hear. I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television. If somebody's speaking on the se the television, they're not gonna stop and say remote, okay. James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Ryan Bradley: So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word James Phillips: Oh yeah. Yeah. Ryan Bradley: Like James Phillips: No, I think Ryan Bradley: the t James Phillips: it's Ryan Bradley: like James Phillips: a great Ryan Bradley: the telephone. James Phillips: idea if we can Ryan Bradley: No because James Phillips: design Ryan Bradley: I James Phillips: it Ryan Bradley: this James Phillips: to Ryan Bradley: is this James Phillips: to Ryan Bradley: is James Phillips: suit Ryan Bradley: years James Phillips: those Ryan Bradley: ago James Phillips: requirements. Ryan Bradley: in the United States where we're driving down and he said call home, and the telephone called immediately James Phillips: Yeah. Ryan Bradley: so well, that's kinda cute. Donald Krawiec: Well, what I can uh suggest to you, Christine, okay, uh if you need some uh the technical feedback, or some training, okay, about uh this facility, especially for the speech recognition, I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_, okay, because they're already in this uh speech recognition part, okay. And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them, some kind of a technical tie-up. Okay, and uh if okay, and uh you can uh let Ryan Bradley know, okay, so what kind of uh the details you require okay, to add this feature in this project. I don't think it's uh the difficult. And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop, apart from uh what today. Mark Lee: Okay, we'll find that out. Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: From from your side uh, you're gonna have to go back the management and s Donald Krawiec: Yes. Ryan Bradley: be more s precise. What do they Donald Krawiec: Yes. Ryan Bradley: want? Uh, a risk, take a risk on the market? Something that's gonna cost more, but could very easily s Donald Krawiec: Yes. Ryan Bradley: make a boom in the market? Donald Krawiec: Yep. Ryan Bradley: Because it has to be something totally different, has to be total totally new. Something that nobody has right now. Donald Krawiec: Yeah Ryan Bradley: And it's Donald Krawiec: but Ryan Bradley: gonna cost. Donald Krawiec: but end of the day, you're the sales guy, so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection, okay. It's Ryan Bradley: Mm-hmm. Donald Krawiec: uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to Ryan Bradley: Sure. Donald Krawiec: benefit, Ryan Bradley: Sure. Donald Krawiec: okay. And uh, so I don't mind to convince, okay, the management to spend some more money on the project, okay, if you can make out of Ryan Bradley: Obviously. Donald Krawiec: the money from this Ryan Bradley: If the Donald Krawiec: project. Ryan Bradley: bottom line is positive. Donald Krawiec: Yes, okay I don't mind to convince the the management, Ryan Bradley: Mm. Donald Krawiec: okay. The management says, okay, so they they don't want certain facilities, which it's already worked, okay, they want something uh new, okay. I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree, I don't think they'll say no for that, okay. And uh I hope I can convince the management on that, okay. So if you have any uh new ideas, okay, for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell Ryan Bradley if you need any uh s special, okay, coordination, okay, between any uh technical companies, which you can uh hide their technology backup, okay, for your uh functional design or technical design, okay, then I am ready to do that. And uh what's your comments about uh James Phillips: Um well, I mean, maybe if I go through my presentation, you can sort of see Ryan Bradley: Mm. James Phillips: what the user perspective is, and how it ties into the other two comments. Donald Krawiec: Yeah, so you are finish, Ed, uh Ryan Bradley: Yes. Donald Krawiec: so I can Ryan Bradley: Mm. Donald Krawiec: uh Okay, I'll uh hand over to Agnes. Just gonna close this. T Uh where are you, here? James Phillips: Mm participant three. Donald Krawiec: Participant three. James Phillips: Nope, here Donald Krawiec: Okay, so I'll yep. Donald Krawiec: Okay. James Phillips: Good. Thanks. Donald Krawiec: Is it okay? Alri James Phillips: Yeah, and that's fine. Okay. So, basically, the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products. So, in our case, existing remote controls. And then, what the good ideas are, and what the bad ideas are, and why they're bad and good, which isn't always as obvious. We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad, but when you look, technically, at how it works, sometimes that's not the case. Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep, 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work. Um and then what the remote control should look like, obviously, once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are. So, in terms of the functionalities that we need, you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off. You need to change channels, both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing. You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever. So, the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls, in general. The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do. Um often, you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done, um which you don't necessarily always remember, especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often. And that the buttons are too small. So, here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side, you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons. The buttons, in a lot of cases, are tiny. Um they're hard to see, and okay, they're labelled, but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much. Whereas, on the other side, you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed. And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it. So, I would be inclined to go sort of towards this, in terms of design, rather than this. And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons, then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons. So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit, or to a minimum, sorry, make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed, so like the on button being really obvious one, the channel changing and the volume, and to keep the design basically sleek Donald Krawiec: Click James Phillips: and simple. Donald Krawiec: mm. James Phillips: Which, I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably. Um so, that's pretty much it, an I don't know if you guys have any questions or Mark Lee: Oh, it's um, seems very understandable. Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction, James Phillips: Yep. Mark Lee: and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it. James Phillips: Yes, that's true. Mark Lee: So uh, James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: you know, but that's okay. That's why we're all here at the table, so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: w we it's complementary. I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh, when you hold it, is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Mark Lee: and James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about, th James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: th the look and the feel, and uh, James Phillips: Oh, Mark Lee: you're First. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I don't have any questions. Sounds good. Donald Krawiec: So for anybody need uh any help, for time being, on this James Phillips: Oh Donald Krawiec: uh subjects, okay, so please come back to Ryan Bradley, and uh Christine, maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim, okay, and to add some features, like we are talking about, the speech recognition and all. James Phillips: Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to Donald Krawiec: Yeah. James Phillips: include, 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table, but do we actually want to incorporate all of them, or have we missed Ryan Bradley: Hmm. James Phillips: anything? Mark Lee: Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide, maybe that would provide some guidance? James Phillips: Sure. Mark Lee: Doesn't really tell us. Donald Krawiec: So not really this Ryan Bradley: Individual Donald Krawiec: one Ryan Bradley: actions. Donald Krawiec: we are talk Mark Lee: Well it Donald Krawiec: ab Mark Lee: says individual actions, it says Donald Krawiec: Yep. Mark Lee: user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept, supposed to work on the James Phillips: Mm-hmm. Mark Lee: user interface concept, and you're supposed to keep watching the trends. Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach. I James Phillips: I thought Mark Lee: think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process, that's my suggestion. Donald Krawiec: Okay, that will be great. And uh I'll send you the the minutes Mark Lee: You can Donald Krawiec: of Mark Lee: object Donald Krawiec: meet Mark Lee: if you want to James Phillips: No, I I'm just thinking in terms of time, like Ryan Bradley: She's James Phillips: if Ryan Bradley: objecting. Donald Krawiec: Yeah. James Phillips: Yes, now I'm objecting. No, I mean, I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away? I mean, it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features, um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use, maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want, but Ryan Bradley: Oh th Mark Lee: I think we James Phillips: guess Mark Lee: should take Ryan Bradley: we s Mark Lee: that as Ryan Bradley: we Mark Lee: an Ryan Bradley: still Mark Lee: action Ryan Bradley: have Mark Lee: item for after the meeting, 'cause w Ryan Bradley: Yeah. Mark Lee: our meeting time has run Ryan Bradley: Right. Mark Lee: out. Somebody James Phillips: Sure. Mark Lee: else has go to use this room, and, James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: you know, we can't hang out here and James Phillips: Yeah. Mark Lee: talk James Phillips: Sure. Mark Lee: about this, so Donald Krawiec: Okay, what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break, okay, then uh we can discuss furthermore, okay, with our areas, and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting. So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting, and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information. Okay? James Phillips: Okay. Donald Krawiec: So let's go for lunch then. Mark Lee: Thank Ryan Bradley: Agreed. Mark Lee: you very Donald Krawiec: Thank Mark Lee: much. Donald Krawiec: you.

Donald Krawiec gave new requirements for the product: the remote will not include a teletext function, will only be used for television, and must show the corporate image. Mark Lee presented possible components to consider. The group then discussed hard materials to include in the design. Ryan Bradley presented an initial sales plan and showed that there is a demand for remotes featuring voice recognition and other capabilities; the group discussed how it could be integrated into the functional design. Donald Krawiec offered to help Mark Lee find companies to provide help in integrating this component. The designers expressed that they needed more information from the board on their expectations for the product. James Phillips gave a presentation on product design from the user's perspective and emphasized simplicity in design. She also suggested that the group make a decision on which features to include in the final product design, but the group decided to postpone it. The designers were given their assignments: Ryan Bradley will present the marketing concept; James Phillips, the user interface concept; Mark Lee, the components concept.

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Frank Johnson: Okay. Frank Johnson: Right. Conceptual design meeting. Right. so Right well um from the last meeting I was trying to send you the minutes, but uh it didn't work out too well, so maybe in sort of um quick summary of the last uh meeting, I can quickly give you what we what we had. Uh right, so Wishing I hadn't closed the damn Right so we had the fact we're gonna have the the logo uh the company its uh colour incorporated the device the remote device We had uh made our decisions about uh made our decisions about uh the device itself, that it was gonna be simple to make it uh enable us to complete the project in time. We're gonna have uh effectively two pages, a front page which had the uh features that the uh the customers most wanted, and then the uh the backup features on the second page so that it could uh meet the technical requirements. And the customers wouldn't have to look at them too often, only as and when required. So. So basically what decisions uh have we uh made? Uh have there been any uh changes? Brandon Artrip: I think we all have a presentation again, so Frank Johnson: Right. Brandon Artrip: if we go through Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: those and then um. Frank Johnson: Three presentation, Brandon Artrip: Shall Frank Johnson: yeah. Brandon Artrip: I Frank Johnson: So Brandon Artrip: go first again? Frank Johnson: Yeah, fine. Edwin Juckett: Okay. Brandon Artrip: I see this a little more smoothly than the last one. Brandon Artrip: Okay right, let's get started. Um basically the uh for the Um I'll back actually. For the components design, um next step is basically the the way the remote's gonna work is still the same idea as before. still have the user interface is all the buttons we're gonna incorporate. Then there is a chip and still the sender. So um yes including the power s supply as well. Um I'll go on to my findings in each of these areas. Uh first in the power supply, we have the option of just the standard battery, um. There's a dynamo. Any of you think of kind of like the the old torches which you wind up um. There's a kinetic option, which if any of you've seen those new watches which you kind of you power up by waving around, um it just requires a small amount of movement which would mean the batteries wouldn't have to be replaced. Um that's Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: one option, but I think that was gonna cost a little more. And then there's solar cells. Um as a final option. For the buttons, we have um an integrated push button, which is Oh just to say all all these are um supplied by Real Reaction. So I guess for the ease of for quickness and ease we should take them from at least like one of these options. Um Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: so for the buttons there's an integrated push button, which I guess is just the same as the standard ones. This says it's uh similar to uh the button on the mouse for a normal for like uh like modern computer. Um there's a scroll wheel which is you know the new mouse has just got like the centre section which you can scroll up and down, which may be for the volume. You could Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: do do that. Um one issue for the buttons is, depending on which material we use, if we use rubber buttons then it requires a rubber case, so we have to take that into consideration. Um moving on to the printed Frank Johnson: What would Brandon Artrip: s Frank Johnson: be the cost do do we know? Brandon Artrip: Um that's on the next I th I think the there wasn't too much difference in the cost, that that related to the actual buttons, but it does affect the printed circuit board. Um which is the next section. Basically for the circuit board which is the middle, it's just see it down there the chips like the Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: like the workings of the actual um of the remote. The firm supplies a simple, a regular and an advanced um circuit board. And there's different prices according to each. So if we've got the scroll wheel for one of the buttons, that would require a slightly more advanced circuit board Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: than if we just had a standard um push button. Um one final thing we came up with was some information on the speech recognition. There's a small unit available through the company um which obviously would be an extra cost, but it wouldn't affect the size of the remote too much. Um and I guess that would require a more advanced circuit board, so there is an extra price in that sense. There is th sorry an extra cost in that sense. Um going to my personal preferences, um I thought possibly for power we could use kinetic um which is the idea of the watches um that you move you move the remote around to power it up. And this would avoid batteries running out, having to replace batteries and such like. Um for the buttons, I thought we'd probably get away with just having the standard um push buttons rather than the scroll wheel. Um and for the circuit board, again depends on which features we want in the actual in the remote. So if we wanted the scroll wheel and wanted the voice recognition, um then we'd have to get a a more costly circuit board. And that's it. Edwin Juckett: 'Kay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Thanks. Frank Johnson: with the printed circuit boards you were going for the Brandon Artrip: Um i it kind of depends um if we're gonna have the speech recognition, we'd have to probably get an advanced one. I'm guessing. Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: Uh but I don't know, so that is something I'll have Frank Johnson: But Brandon Artrip: to look Frank Johnson: are we Brandon Artrip: into. Frank Johnson: going f R right. Brandon Artrip: Um that's a that's a decision for all of us. Um. Frank Johnson: So are we able to make that decision Brandon Artrip: Yeah Frank Johnson: now Brandon Artrip: yeah. Frank Johnson: in a sense that this is the point at which Brandon Artrip: We Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: decide. Frank Johnson: we're discussing that issue, so Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: would it not be best to rather than I mean one way is to do each of the presentations and then make decisions going back to the various presentations as they were. The other way would be to do the presentation Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: and then make the decision at that point in time. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, Brandon Artrip: Maybe Kenneth Mcilvain: that's probably Brandon Artrip: w Kenneth Mcilvain: a better one, to discuss it straight away. Frank Johnson: 'Cause at that point then you've got the details up there, so if we wanted to know for instance that the scroll wheel required the regular and what required advance. Then if we were Brandon Artrip: Um. Frank Johnson: able to see that down then we could make the decision at that point in time and then that would be the end of that issue. Does that Brandon Artrip: Yes. Frank Johnson: make sense? Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um I have a lot of the information there. It might not be very clear. Brandon Artrip: Is there Kenneth Mcilvain: Unless you want to plug it back in to yours. Brandon Artrip: Um. We could do, yeah. Um yeah we should. Brandon Artrip: As I say it only specified that we need a more advanced circuit board for the scroll wheel, it didn't Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: The voice recognition came as a separate piece of information. Um. Frank Johnson: No the scroll wheel required the regular, so the Brandon Artrip: Yeah if if you down um. Frank Johnson: Hmm. Brandon Artrip: It's just this bit at the bottom which I've highlighted, but the scroll wheel requires a mini m minimally a regular chip, which is in the higher price range. Frank Johnson: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: I think Frank Johnson: The display Kenneth Mcilvain: the scroll Frank Johnson: requires Kenneth Mcilvain: wheel Frank Johnson: an Kenneth Mcilvain: um Frank Johnson: advanced chip the display requires an advanced chip which Brandon Artrip: Also the Frank Johnson: in Brandon Artrip: display's Frank Johnson: turn Brandon Artrip: for something Frank Johnson: is more Brandon Artrip: else which Frank Johnson: expense. Brandon Artrip: we decided against. Um but that bit Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: And note that the push button just requires a simple chip, so that would keep the price Frank Johnson: Down. Brandon Artrip: down. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, and if we're Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: going for sleek and sexy, I think a scroll wheel is maybe a bit kinda bulky? I I've got um pictures well I've seen pictures with it kind of sticking off the side of it, and Frank Johnson: Right. Kenneth Mcilvain: they don't really look great. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: So maybe just a simple push button, and that would Frank Johnson: So. Brandon Artrip: cut costs on Frank Johnson: So Brandon Artrip: the Frank Johnson: we're going for p Okay. So is um Edwin Juckett: So are we going for the w are we going for the simple one, are we? Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, a simple Edwin Juckett: Okay. Frank Johnson: Simple Kenneth Mcilvain: pushbuttons. Frank Johnson: push button. Brandon Artrip: on the speech recognition? The um it was basically what we said before, the idea that you record in a set message, and then it picks up that message um Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: and replies to you. So it is basically the concept we discussed before. Um but then we don't know for sure whether it would require a more complicated circuit board. I'm guessing it would, but got like the definite information. Maybe we should go on what we're certain of rather than Frank Johnson: So if we go for the simple push button, so effectively we're going for the simple printed circuit board are we? Or are we going for the regular? Brandon Artrip: Um if it's just the push button then it just needs the simple circuit board. Frank Johnson: Mm-mm. But is there any other I mean okay, that's true for the for for that element, but we have to take all el elements into consideration. And so if there is one element that requires the more expensive one, or say the regular one, or Edwin Juckett: Mm. Frank Johnson: the more advanced, then that would have to be the same for all of them. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: S Edwin Juckett: I suppose Kenneth Mcilvain: But Edwin Juckett: we need we need to find out what circuit board that requires, maybe before we m make a decision. Kenneth Mcilvain: But Frank Johnson: Right. Kenneth Mcilvain: the way that I interpret that um it doesn't seem to send out a signal to the telly, it just it's like a parrot just rep reply Edwin Juckett: Oh yeah, Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: replying Edwin Juckett: I suppose Kenneth Mcilvain: to your message. Edwin Juckett: so, yeah. Brandon Artrip: So maybe that would be something Kenneth Mcilvain: So Brandon Artrip: separate, Kenneth Mcilvain: I don't think it Brandon Artrip: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: would effect our Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: circuit Frank Johnson: No. Kenneth Mcilvain: board. Brandon Artrip: Okay, so we'd have a simple circuit board and that would be an extra that would be in addition Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: to it. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: And Brandon Artrip: Oh Kenneth Mcilvain: I don't Brandon Artrip: that makes Kenneth Mcilvain: think Brandon Artrip: sense. Kenneth Mcilvain: you could really perform any of the remote functions with it. 'Cause the example that they've given there is good morning coffee machine, good morning Jo. Frank Johnson: Mm-mm. Kenneth Mcilvain: It might be useful to say like where are you remote. Brandon Artrip: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Here I am, Jo. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: But I think that's maybe as far as that one could go? Frank Johnson: Okay. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: Yeah that makes sense, so we'd stick with the simple circuit board and then think of the speech recognition as an extra an extra Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, just Brandon Artrip: possibility. Kenneth Mcilvain: as a fun way to find it. Brandon Artrip: Okay. Um. Frank Johnson: Simple circuit board. Simple push button. Okay. W Kenneth Mcilvain: And it says that Frank Johnson: w kinetic. Kenneth Mcilvain: I think it said Frank Johnson: You Kenneth Mcilvain: the cost Frank Johnson: were you Kenneth Mcilvain: of that Frank Johnson: were Kenneth Mcilvain: isn't Frank Johnson: wanting Kenneth Mcilvain: too Frank Johnson: to Kenneth Mcilvain: much. Frank Johnson: go for the kinetic power supply. Brandon Artrip: Um yeah I I thought so just for just for ease of not having to replace the batteries. Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: Um. Frank Johnson: And how does it get uh charged up? Brandon Artrip: It's um I think it works on the basis they have some kind of ball bearings inside. It's um it's some on watches which you you kind of you shake to power it up. Somehow Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: the mechanism inside powers up through movement. Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: So you'd you'd move the remote around a little bit and then that powers it up to use it. Frank Johnson: Okay. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: So the speech recognition was Are we going for speech recognition? No? 'Cause that required the advanced Kenneth Mcilvain: Um I think it would be helpful to find it, but Edwin Juckett: Just Kenneth Mcilvain: I don't think it'd Brandon Artrip: Uh yeah I Kenneth Mcilvain: um Brandon Artrip: think did we decide it didn't affect the circuit board, it just affected Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, Edwin Juckett: Just Kenneth Mcilvain: I think so. Edwin Juckett: just Brandon Artrip: It was just Edwin Juckett: for the call and Frank Johnson: I had Edwin Juckett: find Frank Johnson: speech Edwin Juckett: thing. Frank Johnson: recognition requires advanced req Brandon Artrip: Oh Frank Johnson: require Brandon Artrip: no th that's what that's what I thought, but maybe maybe it doesn't. Um Frank Johnson: Oh. Brandon Artrip: I think I might have got that wrong. Edwin Juckett: 'Cause Frank Johnson: So Edwin Juckett: it's s it's Frank Johnson: okay. Edwin Juckett: separate isn't it, it's not part Frank Johnson: Speech Edwin Juckett: of the Frank Johnson: recognition you reckon then is Brandon Artrip: It's it's Frank Johnson: s Brandon Artrip: just an addition thing it's Frank Johnson: simple. Brandon Artrip: um yeah. Frank Johnson: And so we would want it in as an extra because it doesn't appear to cost too much. Would Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: that be Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay shall I pass Kenneth Mcilvain: I Brandon Artrip: on Kenneth Mcilvain: think Brandon Artrip: to you now? Frank Johnson: In fact, it wouldn't really cost anymore, would it? Kenneth Mcilvain: I'll just just check what it said. Actually I don't think it really says anything about the cost, but it says that it's already in the coffee machines, so Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: like it's already kind Brandon Artrip: I assume Kenneth Mcilvain: of Brandon Artrip: it would cost extra, but Maybe we maybe we'll find out how much that does cost and have to decide slightly Frank Johnson: And Brandon Artrip: later. Frank Johnson: then have to change all change everything at the last minute. Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um. Frank Johnson: S Kenneth Mcilvain: Oh, that was quick. Um okay, so very brief presentation, um. From looking at the remotes that are out there at the minute, none of them are particularly um sleek and sexy. Um I haven't actually got the examples of the scroll button there, um but there's some curved cases that you can see, uh a range of sizes uh. All of them have a lot of buttons there um they seem to just have the rubber buttons. Does that move it? Frank Johnson: Sorry? Kenneth Mcilvain: It just seems to be skipping on without Frank Johnson: Yeah, Kenneth Mcilvain: us doing Frank Johnson: I've Kenneth Mcilvain: anything. Frank Johnson: found that try and get it back. Brandon Artrip: If you right click and then go onto a previous slide. Kenneth Mcilvain: Ah it's alright. Um. Brandon Artrip: Okay, Kenneth Mcilvain: There wasn't much more to say about that, Brandon Artrip: right. Kenneth Mcilvain: just rambling. Um some of the uh remotes that I looked at, one of the models da did actually have voice recognition where you could um where it was connected to the remote control functions. And uh it was quite uh a swish model, where it can control uh four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, video, D_V_D_, audio. Um so that's a bit of competition there. So I mean maybe it's better not to try and compete with that sort of thing and just to market it as a completely different um like different viewpoint as Brandon Artrip: Yeah, Kenneth Mcilvain: a kind of Brandon Artrip: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: finding your lost control rather than trying to compete with the functions. Um the scroll buttons, as you've already mentioned, um there's examples of those, but they don't look as sleek as other models. And there's no real advantage and because it impacts on other Brandon Artrip: On the price, Kenneth Mcilvain: on the materials Brandon Artrip: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: and the price it's not great. Frank Johnson: So Kenneth Mcilvain: Um Frank Johnson: you were saying the scroll buttons Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Th there was a specialist type of remote that we could think about, um. There was children's remote, where um they just had a very limited range of buttons and they were b uh bright and colourful and um you you could program them so that they could only look at certain channels. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um but I don't know if that's really in our field? But Brandon Artrip: I Kenneth Mcilvain: that's Brandon Artrip: guess Kenneth Mcilvain: something Brandon Artrip: I guess Kenneth Mcilvain: that's Brandon Artrip: we're going Kenneth Mcilvain: out there. Brandon Artrip: for the biggest market, maybe not, but Was it was it specified that we went for the biggest? Frank Johnson: Well we're to go for the international market rather than a local market but that Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: that wouldn't necessarily preclude The one thing that you can often do with products is you can uh make small modifications. So you have your basic model which you would sell at whatever, and then you could have additional features in you know like a You'd have model one, model two and model three, and therefore you can sub-divide your market up. But that's really where your field is. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: So maybe the children's remote should be like a a next step, but maybe I dunno for ours, maybe Frank Johnson: Anyway Brandon Artrip: we should Frank Johnson: you could add on for an extra package, but on this basic one I'm reckoning that we're going for the basic model to be discussed here and that uh you would have for future reference the possibility of adding in extra features at extra cost Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: to take Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: care of specialist market segments. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Okay. Right Frank Johnson: Is that Kenneth Mcilvain: well that's something that we can Frank Johnson: So so Kenneth Mcilvain: be Frank Johnson: what Kenneth Mcilvain: aware Frank Johnson: are we deciding Kenneth Mcilvain: of. Frank Johnson: to do Kenneth Mcilvain: Um. Frank Johnson: here? Kenneth Mcilvain: I think because there's already um very good voice recognition technology out there, Frank Johnson: Right. Kenneth Mcilvain: and because ours might not cover the same functions that the leading brands do, it might Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: be a good idea to market it as a um finder function. Frank Johnson: Uh the fi Yeah, the finder function rather than as a speech function to find Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: your remote. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: So Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: you also said for going for the international market um that some some maybe older people might not like the speech recognition. Kenneth Mcilvain: Oh Brandon Artrip: S Kenneth Mcilvain: yeah. Brandon Artrip: s so um Kenneth Mcilvain: Different languages Brandon Artrip: Yeah, Kenneth Mcilvain: might not Brandon Artrip: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: be compatible. Brandon Artrip: It w it would make it quite complicated, Frank Johnson: Hmm. Brandon Artrip: where um ours at least keeps it fairly simple and then the Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, 'cause I think you program um this one yourself, like to say Brandon Artrip: Yeah, Kenneth Mcilvain: like Brandon Artrip: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: whatever you want to your question. Edwin Juckett: Yeah and ours is quite a cheap device, so I don't know how much we'll be able to put into it. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: So you'd have a finder feature rather than a voice recognition feature. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Maybe Frank Johnson: And you Kenneth Mcilvain: unless Frank Johnson: were talking Kenneth Mcilvain: something else comes up. Frank Johnson: Mm. And you were talking about scroll buttons? Kenneth Mcilvain: Um yeah I think um I think we've decided that it's gonna increase the cost and give Frank Johnson: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: no real kinda extra Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: benefit Frank Johnson: b Kenneth Mcilvain: and it's gonna decrease from the sleekness of it. Frank Johnson: was that Brandon Artrip: Yes Frank Johnson: right? Brandon Artrip: yes. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm um and just to be aware that there are kind of specialist functions and specialist remotes but we probably don't want to focus on those like such as the children's Frank Johnson: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: remote. Frank Johnson: So not to be focused on. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Um there was a mention just as kind of a warning about button design. Um just to avoid ambiguity. So it gave the example of say your volume buttons for up and down, they might both have a V_ on for volume, Um let's think how they did this. Frank Johnson: Good in in Kenneth Mcilvain: I'm just Frank Johnson: Flip Kenneth Mcilvain: gonna check Frank Johnson: it round Kenneth Mcilvain: so I do Frank Johnson: in ninety Kenneth Mcilvain: this right. Frank Johnson: degree a hundred and eighty degrees and have it up and down. An upside-down V_. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um. Frank Johnson: So that would show Kenneth Mcilvain: What Frank Johnson: that Kenneth Mcilvain: did they Frank Johnson: volume Kenneth Mcilvain: say? Frank Johnson: was going up, whereas the one underneath would see the volume going down. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um I think the thing was that if you decide to do this, to have triangular buttons, um somebody might look at this one and say oh well this triangular button is pointing up, and that's the first thing that they see Frank Johnson: Right. Kenneth Mcilvain: right, can it? Oh well, no, they might see yeah, they might see this pointing down Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: and think right that's gonna turn the volume down, whereas the actual button's pointing up, Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: so the function is to turn the button up. So, Brandon Artrip: So maybe we could have Kenneth Mcilvain: be Brandon Artrip: like Kenneth Mcilvain: careful what you put on the buttons and be careful of the shape that you make them, Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: because they might be kind of two um contradicting Brandon Artrip: Yeah Kenneth Mcilvain: kind Brandon Artrip: I I Kenneth Mcilvain: of Brandon Artrip: know Kenneth Mcilvain: shapes. Brandon Artrip: what you mean. So maybe we could have volume written on the side and then up and down on the on the buttons themselves. Frank Johnson: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Frank Johnson: You could have volume Brandon Artrip: Possible. Frank Johnson: up and volume Volume up, down and Brandon Artrip: Mm. Frank Johnson: Like that. And 'cause the idea was to have limited um it was to have sizable amount of information on it. Brandon Artrip: Yeah Frank Johnson: Limited Brandon Artrip: yeah. Frank Johnson: number of buttons. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: 'Cause it was sixteen buttons, wasn't it that Brandon Artrip: Yeah Frank Johnson: were Brandon Artrip: we got it down Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: to not too many. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um and I think that's all I had to say for that. Edwin Juckett: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um so what was the decision on the um design of the volume button? Brandon Artrip: Um Are we are we gonna go through the design of all the buttons at the moment, or are we gonna Edwin Juckett: I've I've got Brandon Artrip: t Edwin Juckett: some things to say about possible design things Brandon Artrip: Yeah, Edwin Juckett: from Brandon Artrip: maybe we Kenneth Mcilvain: Oh Frank Johnson: Okay. Brandon Artrip: should Kenneth Mcilvain: okay. Brandon Artrip: see yours Edwin Juckett: trend Brandon Artrip: first. Edwin Juckett: watching. Cool. Edwin Juckett: Right, um I've been looking at some trends in in sort of basically fashion on top of doing the um research into the remote control market the the one that's the one I talked about last time, that we'd sort of asked people about remote controls and what what was good about them, what was bad, what they used. And we've also been looking at sort of fa sort of fashions and what people are wanting out of consumer goods at the moment. So we've had people in Paris and Milan watching the uh fashion trends. Frank Johnson: You know Edwin Juckett: So Frank Johnson: yourself. Edwin Juckett: So just to summarise the most important things which came out of the remote control market investigation. The most important thing was that the thing sort of look and felt fancy rather than just functional. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Edwin Juckett: And second, there should be some technological innovation. And then third and l less important than the other two, there should be an ease of use as well. And apparently, the fashion trends are that people want sort of clothes and shoes and things with a fruit and vegetables theme. Um but um the feel of the material should be spongy, which is contrary to last year, apparently. I presume it must have been not not spongy last year. So we need to emphasise the fancy design with on on our remote control above all else. And then also try and add in technological informat innovation which could be our sort of find the thing with a hand clap. And then we need to ma sort of make it easy to use that's as a third priority, so perhaps um fewer fewer buttons and functions as we've as we've discussed. And then maybe find a way to incorporate these trends so that we sort of capture people's imaginations. So maybe we could make the buttons shaped like fruit and veg, or the the buttons could be spongy, uh somehow. Maybe we could make them out of rubber rather than sort of hard plastic. And then sort of even wackier than that, we could maybe have a fruit or vegetable shaped remote, say in the shape of a banana or something like that. Right, so that'll be it. Maybe a banana or courgette or something. How how far we actually want to go along and sort of follow the trends, do we think the trends are particularly important for this type of gadget, or or you know, do they not matter that much? Kenneth Mcilvain: I think if you start making the buttons fruit shaped, it might make it more complicated to use. Frank Johnson: Well you were just talking about you've got to be careful how you shape your buttons, 'cause you're can mis-direct people. And I would've Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: thought Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Frank Johnson: the functionality 'cause the people get cheesed off by things by having to read instructions et cetera, so. ... Kenneth Mcilvain: Maybe just one button, say the standby button is quite kinda separate from all the other functions. Maybe that could be a little apple. And Frank Johnson: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: then that Edwin Juckett: Maybe Kenneth Mcilvain: wouldn't Edwin Juckett: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: get in the way of like kinda one Frank Johnson: Now? Kenneth Mcilvain: to nine, and it wouldn't confuse Frank Johnson: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: the numbers. Frank Johnson: Stand-by button. No th that that incorporates the trend whilst at the same time not confusing people, Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: if you're looking for functionality. Brandon Artrip: Well I dunno I I guess maybe fruit and vegetables may be popular at the moment, but as we know Frank Johnson: But Brandon Artrip: how Frank Johnson: what Brandon Artrip: fickle Frank Johnson: are they gonna be Brandon Artrip: the Frank Johnson: next Brandon Artrip: fashion Frank Johnson: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: markets Frank Johnson: What are they Brandon Artrip: are, Frank Johnson: gonna be Brandon Artrip: maybe Edwin Juckett: Yeah Frank Johnson: next year. Edwin Juckett: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: But Kenneth Mcilvain: S Frank Johnson: but th but okay but you you can incorporate the tr If y if you change all the buttons Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: then you've got the problem that this year's fruit and veg, next year's uh I was gonna say animals or elephants Edwin Juckett: Yeah, Frank Johnson: or w whatever. Edwin Juckett: I'm Frank Johnson: That Edwin Juckett: not Frank Johnson: means you're constantly changing your production schedule, and you've gotta make different Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: moulds and everything else, so that's not a good idea Edwin Juckett: I'm Frank Johnson: I would Edwin Juckett: not I'm not Frank Johnson: I would Edwin Juckett: sure Frank Johnson: suggest. Edwin Juckett: what what what the sort of timescale we're thinking of selling the product over is. I don't know. Brandon Artrip: I mean it just seems realistic that the remote control market isn't the kind of thing which takes in those kinds of fashion Edwin Juckett: Yeah, Brandon Artrip: trends. Edwin Juckett: yeah. Brandon Artrip: to something which is maybe more universal. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: Well Kenneth Mcilvain: But I suppose as long as it's quite a subtle design, Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: um Brandon Artrip: We c Kenneth Mcilvain: even Brandon Artrip: maybe Kenneth Mcilvain: if Brandon Artrip: can Kenneth Mcilvain: the design Brandon Artrip: imply Kenneth Mcilvain: kind Brandon Artrip: a Kenneth Mcilvain: of Brandon Artrip: fruit Kenneth Mcilvain: changes, Brandon Artrip: shape possibly. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: Ah d d But Brandon Artrip: Maybe Frank Johnson: if Brandon Artrip: the spongy feel is something we could think Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: about, um. Frank Johnson: Well. Yep. Brandon Artrip: Maybe still with a rubber design we could Frank Johnson: Was that in the sort of fashion sense that this Or was the spongy feel was that uh sort of fashion? It was, wasn't it? Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: It Frank Johnson: So Kenneth Mcilvain: seems like you're Frank Johnson: the Kenneth Mcilvain: gonna have rubber cases, as well as buttons. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Yeah. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: And that you can make them curved or double-curved and that would be the kind of Brandon Artrip: Oh Kenneth Mcilvain: sleek Brandon Artrip: yeah Kenneth Mcilvain: and sexy Brandon Artrip: yeah one of Kenneth Mcilvain: look. Brandon Artrip: the things were if you had rubber buttons then you had to have a rubber case. Frank Johnson: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Oh Brandon Artrip: Um Kenneth Mcilvain: right, that Brandon Artrip: oh Kenneth Mcilvain: fits, Brandon Artrip: no no Kenneth Mcilvain: doesn't Brandon Artrip: no sorry Kenneth Mcilvain: it? Brandon Artrip: it's if you use the uh rubber double curved case then you must use rubber buttons. That's the way round. If you have the rubber case then you have to have the rubber buttons to go with it. Which makes sense. Kenneth Mcilvain: Right. Brandon Artrip: Um. Frank Johnson: Rubber buttons require rubber case. Kenneth Mcilvain: And that would fit in with what we want, wouldn't it, for the Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: spongy feel, to have everything rubber. Frank Johnson: Uh so, yeah. The m the main problem is how f how frequently do the fashions change? 'Cause in essence in the production you want things to stay you want Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: to basically mint them out 'cause if you've got fashion changes and that you're incorporating, then it means that your stock is um is Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: last year's stock and therefore you're selling it or having to sell it at a discounted rate which you wouldn't want Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: to do. Whereas if you kept the product the same but you could have a difference from year to year, uh it seems to Edwin Juckett that you could Edwin Juckett: Okay. Frank Johnson: incorporate a fashion statement if you like, rather than changing the whole kit and caboodle. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: You're just changing one aspect like like the standby button or something like that, and especially 'cause then you could make it something that Brandon Artrip: I suppose we maybe Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: are limited in the fact that we still have to put the logo on the actual Frank Johnson: Well, Brandon Artrip: would Frank Johnson: you might Brandon Artrip: or Frank Johnson: be limited Brandon Artrip: not. Frank Johnson: in space, that yes. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: Well Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: you two are obviously gonna find that out fairly quickly when you move over to your kit modelling stage as Brandon Artrip: Yes Frank Johnson: to uh Brandon Artrip: yes. Frank Johnson: how much pl how much how much how pliable is Plasticine. Brandon Artrip: Maybe we could think of the the cases like changing with the fashions like the Nokia phones where you could take the casing off the outside. But Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: whether that would be too much to incorporate in production, whether that would just increase Frank Johnson: Hmm. Brandon Artrip: the costs, make it more complicated. Edwin Juckett: That's Frank Johnson: So Edwin Juckett: possibly Frank Johnson: you're talking Edwin Juckett: it. Frank Johnson: there about uh changing changing the casing. Brandon Artrip: Yeah the a the actual the sort of the look from the outside, so where the buttons would stay the same, and Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: the general function of the remote would stay the same, but you could change the the way it looked. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah and then you could have Oh but you still would have to have the logo on every new case, Brandon Artrip: Yeah, that's Kenneth Mcilvain: but you could have Brandon Artrip: true. Kenneth Mcilvain: like pink cases for girls and Frank Johnson: Yeah Kenneth Mcilvain: red Frank Johnson: you Kenneth Mcilvain: ones Frank Johnson: you could Kenneth Mcilvain: and Frank Johnson: do a Kenneth Mcilvain: things Frank Johnson: colour Kenneth Mcilvain: like Frank Johnson: change, so therefore Kenneth Mcilvain: that. Frank Johnson: you would yeah yeah I mean that's effectively what they did with the with the mobile phones, was Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: to have some in blue, some in red, some in rather Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: than all in black or, you know, which Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Frank Johnson: four do you want, as long as it's black? But uh so Brandon Artrip: So it is a possibility, um. Kenneth Mcilvain: But we are supposed to use the um company colour scheme, aren't we? We haven't Frank Johnson: Yes Brandon Artrip: Oh Kenneth Mcilvain: really Brandon Artrip: okay Kenneth Mcilvain: seen Frank Johnson: oh that's Kenneth Mcilvain: that yet Frank Johnson: true Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: yes Frank Johnson: uh Brandon Artrip: that Frank Johnson: that Brandon Artrip: is Kenneth Mcilvain: It Frank Johnson: might Kenneth Mcilvain: might Frank Johnson: no Kenneth Mcilvain: and we might be able to do both but it might clash with certain things. Frank Johnson: Well not necessarily, because you could have your company uh We're we're meant to be finishing up. You could have your company badge and logo. I mean a lot of um computers for instance like like on the one you've got Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: there, it actually has a sort of um stick on badge so what you would al all you would really need, whether it, you know, whether the casing be w any colour, could be any colour, but that badge would then have to stick out on top of it so that uh in a Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: sense, with a with a logo like that, because it's on a white background, the only colour that it might not stick out so well on would be a white casing. 'Cause you Brandon Artrip: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: you know you're sort of you're badging it. And in fact a lot of companies get somebody else to make them and literally just badge them themselves with Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: their own uh badge over the top. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: And in fact the way they've got that there even if you had that on a white, which is the predominant colour of the uh the Windows badge, you'd still be able to see it clearly from Brandon Artrip: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: you know a white casing Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: uh product. So. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Brandon Artrip: And whether we'd have a big enough market to have this kind of like secondary market of selling the cases might be something to consider. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Well if it's for young people, um Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: like the phone generation, that sort of Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: thing'd probably go down well, and the market research has been on that side of things, hasn't it? Edwin Juckett: Yeah, I mean it's people say that it's the look, they want the fancy looking thing but I'm Yeah. I'm not convinced on whether having changeable covers would be something that people would buy into. I think with the mobiles, it's the, you know it's a communication device, people see you with it all about and Brandon Artrip: Yeah I suppose, Edwin Juckett: i if Brandon Artrip: where you Edwin Juckett: it Brandon Artrip: you keep the remote hidden Frank Johnson: It's Brandon Artrip: under Frank Johnson: uh in Brandon Artrip: the sofa Frank Johnson: in the Brandon Artrip: most Frank Johnson: house, Brandon Artrip: of the time. Frank Johnson: isn't it, Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: I suppose. Edwin Juckett: I Kenneth Mcilvain: Okay, Edwin Juckett: think Kenneth Mcilvain: so if we just went for one colour of a rubber case Frank Johnson: So Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: don't change case. Change case colour. And we're sort of saying no to that. Kenneth Mcilvain: Did we decide on the rubber case? The spongy feel, or did we think that that might go as a trend? Edwin Juckett: Well, it was different last year. The trend was different last year apparently. It was not not spongy feel. But I don't know whether the trend will change. I don't know whether it's one of those things that like sort of having all fruit shaped keys, that that probably would go out of fashion very quickly, whereas Frank Johnson: Yeah. Edwin Juckett: just the fact that it was a rubber case is probably less less of Brandon Artrip: Yeah, Edwin Juckett: something Brandon Artrip: less likely Edwin Juckett: that Brandon Artrip: to Frank Johnson: Sounds Edwin Juckett: y Frank Johnson: reasonable. Edwin Juckett: you're gonna end up hating in a year, you know. Brandon Artrip: So then Frank Johnson: If Brandon Artrip: th th that Frank Johnson: you're going Brandon Artrip: would Frank Johnson: for fashion trends like that they'll need t you'd have to have interchangeable cases so that you could or Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Frank Johnson: 'cause otherwise someone's Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: gonna have to buy a complete new remote rather than just a case. Edwin Juckett: Mm. Brandon Artrip: it seems to make sense that we we'd just maybe stick with the standard rubber case, and then have the standard rubber buttons as well. Frank Johnson: Okay. Edwin Juckett: Okay. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: Uh we haven't really talked about uh the curvature of the case. There's flat, there's single-curved and there's double-curved. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: I'm Brandon Artrip: Mayb Kenneth Mcilvain: not exactly sure Brandon Artrip: Maybe Kenneth Mcilvain: what Brandon Artrip: curves Kenneth Mcilvain: these things look Brandon Artrip: give Kenneth Mcilvain: like. Brandon Artrip: it like the slightly more aesthetic feel? But the double curve wouldn't require us to perform miracles with the Plasticine. Kenneth Mcilvain: Well it says that Edwin Juckett: When you say d when you say double-curved, what what exactly does that mean? Kenneth Mcilvain: I'm not exactly sure. Edwin Juckett: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um I'll show you the remotes that I've got. See how uh Let's just get that bigger. See how uh the one Oh I'm not plugged Edwin Juckett: No you're Kenneth Mcilvain: in, am Edwin Juckett: not Kenneth Mcilvain: I? Edwin Juckett: connected Kenneth Mcilvain: That doesn't Edwin Juckett: to Edwin Juckett Kenneth Mcilvain: help. Edwin Juckett: anymore. Frank Johnson: One one thing to Kenneth Mcilvain: Shall Frank Johnson: cons Kenneth Mcilvain: I just turn it round for time? Frank Johnson: one thing to consider is that in some ways you want um Edwin Juckett: That should come up. Frank Johnson: by having a fairly standard case it means they can all fit together on top of each other therefore for storage purposes in shops and the like and it makes it easier that you can if you can Edwin Juckett: Mm. Frank Johnson: store them up on top Brandon Artrip: Mm-hmm. Frank Johnson: of each other. Whereas if you do um fancy things with it, you then gotta put it in a ca a a packaging box that that does that. And the cost of packaging could be quite important vis-a-vis the total cost of the product. Brandon Artrip: Yeah yeah. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Kenneth Mcilvain: Hmm. Brandon Artrip: So shall we go through quickly and just work out what we've decide on, if we have to kind Frank Johnson: So Brandon Artrip: of Frank Johnson: but Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um it's not very clear up there, but you Frank Johnson: No. Kenneth Mcilvain: can see some of them have got kind of bulges, like Frank Johnson: Mm Kenneth Mcilvain: the second Frank Johnson: yep. Kenneth Mcilvain: one and the end one Edwin Juckett: Right. Kenneth Mcilvain: uh where there's a curve there. I'm not exactl I don't know if a double curve is maybe it comes up slightly, Edwin Juckett: That's Kenneth Mcilvain: or? Edwin Juckett: what I was trying to work out. Kenneth Mcilvain: But um Frank Johnson: Oh right. Kenneth Mcilvain: it is a kinda sleeker look if you've got curves in there. Edwin Juckett: Shall we Frank Johnson: S so do you wanna go for curves, more curves? We're meant Kenneth Mcilvain: Definitely Frank Johnson: to be f Kenneth Mcilvain: a single, Frank Johnson: we're meant to Kenneth Mcilvain: maybe Frank Johnson: be finishing Kenneth Mcilvain: a double. Frank Johnson: this meeting in about a minute or so. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay, so Kenneth Mcilvain: Shall Brandon Artrip: shall Kenneth Mcilvain: we Brandon Artrip: we Kenneth Mcilvain: go for Brandon Artrip: quickly Kenneth Mcilvain: single curve, just to compromise? Brandon Artrip: We'll go for single curve, yeah. Edwin Juckett: Okay. Frank Johnson: Okay, Brandon Artrip: Single curve. Frank Johnson: curved or double curved? So it's single curved. Brandon Artrip: So did we did we decide on the kinetic power supply? The Edwin Juckett: Yeah I think Brandon Artrip: one Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: you move Edwin Juckett: that Brandon Artrip: around? Edwin Juckett: think that's a Frank Johnson: Yep. Edwin Juckett: good Brandon Artrip: Okay. Edwin Juckett: idea. Brandon Artrip: Um Kenneth Mcilvain: And the rubber push buttons, Edwin Juckett: Rubber Kenneth Mcilvain: rubber case. Edwin Juckett: Rubber buttons and case. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um and we don't really know much about the colour scheme or logo yet do we, but Brandon Artrip: Oh we Kenneth Mcilvain: possibly Brandon Artrip: ca Kenneth Mcilvain: a sticker. Brandon Artrip: Yeah yeah, we'll still have the Are we gonna go for the simple circuit board just to keep the cost down? I th I think we can by Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: by not having anything too complicated. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah and and the voice recognition, we can use that can't we, just to find it. Edwin Juckett: Yeah Kenneth Mcilvain: Without Frank Johnson: Yes. Brandon Artrip: Um. Edwin Juckett: yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: affecting the circuit board. Frank Johnson: Yep. Brandon Artrip: And see we could always decide against it if something comes up that's just something to that we seemed to leave out. Edwin Juckett: And then are we going for sort of one button shaped like a fruit. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah that Edwin Juckett: Or Kenneth Mcilvain: sounds Edwin Juckett: veg. Kenneth Mcilvain: like it wouldn't do too much harm in a couple of years. Uh what sort of shape do we want? Edwin Juckett: Don't know, maybe Frank Johnson: So Edwin Juckett: just Frank Johnson: we've got spongy feel buttons as well, have we? As well as or Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: w or was that Edwin Juckett: That's ru rubber buttons, yeah. Brandon Artrip: Yeah, it was Frank Johnson: So Brandon Artrip: just Frank Johnson: it's rubber buttons, so it's not really spongy feel buttons, it's just rubber buttons. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: With a rubber Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah, Edwin Juckett: Reasonably Frank Johnson: case Kenneth Mcilvain: so it's Edwin Juckett: spongy Kenneth Mcilvain: not Frank Johnson: right? Kenneth Mcilvain: too wacky. Edwin Juckett: I guess, yeah. Frank Johnson: And the standby button is gonna be different. Edwin Juckett: Yeah okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: Um I think an apple would be a good recognisable shape. If you start getting into kinda aubergines and things, it gets a bit weird. Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: Okay so what what shape are we making the standby button? Edwin Juckett: Apple? Kenneth Mcilvain: Vote? Frank Johnson: A apple. Oh oh Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Frank Johnson: Sorry? Kenneth Mcilvain: Shall we vote on it? Edwin Juckett: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: We will go Kenneth Mcilvain: Anyone Brandon Artrip: for the a Kenneth Mcilvain: got Brandon Artrip: a Kenneth Mcilvain: any Edwin Juckett: Apple Brandon Artrip: a Kenneth Mcilvain: suggestions? Brandon Artrip: apples Edwin Juckett: apple Brandon Artrip: apples. Edwin Juckett: a Kenneth Mcilvain: Right. Edwin Juckett: a qu Quite a big one, as well. Kenneth Mcilvain: Okay. Ah. Edwin Juckett: A big apple. Uh Kenneth Mcilvain: Well it could be red. Edwin Juckett: Could be a red apple, yeah. Either, don't mind. Frank Johnson: A red apple? Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah Frank Johnson: Is it? Kenneth Mcilvain: 'cause we wanna incorporate a bit of colour if we can, once we find out Brandon Artrip: Okay. Kenneth Mcilvain: um Brandon Artrip: And then we're gonna are you gonna work on keeping the button design quite simple? Just like the Just working out what we're gonna do for the next time. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Brandon Artrip: Um. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Yeah that seems pretty straight forward. Brandon Artrip: Yeah. Kenneth Mcilvain: 'Cause most of them will just be kind of mainly circular or like very plain. Brandon Artrip: 'Kay. Edwin Juckett: Mm-hmm. Okay. Frank Johnson: Sorry what was that last thing again there? Kenneth Mcilvain: Uh just to keep the shape of the buttons simple. Frank Johnson: Right much option on that. I thought you were going for a single curve and Kenneth Mcilvain: Ah just the uh shape of the buttons. Frank Johnson: Alright. Brandon Artrip: And j yeah, just keeping the sort of the labelling them labelling of them fairly simple as well. Kenneth Mcilvain: Yeah. Brandon Artrip: Fairly sort of self explanatory. Frank Johnson: Right, so shape of buttons simple. Frank Johnson: Okay. So that's that, I guess. We should now go away and get these things sorted out. I guess you two are on plasticine duty or whatever. Brandon Artrip: Okay. Frank Johnson: Okay, so um. Brandon Artrip: Is that the end? Okay. Edwin Juckett: Looks like it. Frank Johnson: Okay.

Frank Johnson reviewed the minutes from the last meeting. Brandon Artrip discussed options for each of the internal components. He showed that the size of the chip was dependent on the type and number of additional features used. The group discussed incorporating speech recognition and other functions to be able to decide on chip size. They decided that using speech recognition for the locator function only would allow them to use a simple chip. Kenneth Mcilvain presented several existing products. She presented a specialized children's remote; the group decided to focus on a basic remote that would appeal to a wide market. She expressed that buttons are often ambiguously shaped and that their remote must have an easy-to-use interface. Edwin Juckett presented trends in the remote control market and the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. The group discussed ways to incorporate these trends. They decided to make the standby button shaped like an apple, to use a rubber case and buttons, and to use a single-curved shape. Frank Johnson instructed Kenneth Mcilvain and Brandon Artrip to construct the prototype.

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Robert Richardson: Is everyone ready to start? Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Yes. Robert Richardson: Okay. Great Well. welcome to the third meeting of conceptual design. I'll just get the PowerPoint presentation up and running. Okay. Um, on the agenda for this, um, for this particular meeting, we'll have your three presentations on what you've done since our last meeting, after we came up with um some general ideas of our design. And, um, then we have to make some key decisions on, on our concept, how we're gonna make it, what uh materials we're gonna use, and that sort of thing. The meeting will be forty minutes long. Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: And um we will once again have Poppy as our first presenter. Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: Alright, and I will switch up PowerPoint. Brian Albrecht: Thank you. Robert Richardson: Okay. Brian Albrecht: Should be just loading. Okay. Oh, although I can't see it on my screen. That says go here. Okay. I've been doing some research into the different components that we could use, um what's available to us f to actually make the remote control. Um, first of all we have to look at how the remote control is actually made, and what is it happens inside the casing, which is more your field. Um thes, main internal feature is a circuit board, which contains all the elec electronics and also the contacts with the power source. Which is not necessarily a battery, as we're about to see. Um, there are several components of, um, the circuit board that we need to consider, where we'll be getting them from, what they'll be made of. Um, including the integrated circuit, which is also known as the chip. Which is where all the main information is uh contained. Um, diodes, transistors, resonators, resistors, and capacit capacitors all need to be considered as well. Um, and Robert Richardson: Um Brian Albrecht: all their positioning in the circuit. Robert Richardson: Are they all included, like mandatorily, or r are these different options? Brian Albrecht: Uh, these, they're all different options, they're all separate, apart from the chip, Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: which we will probable decide whether we buy a simple, a regular, advanced. We can go into that later. Um, all the other things are individual components that we'd have to get in separately, and work out the most, like, effective um circuit, including all the wires and everything like that. And the L_E_D_ of course, that's a light emitting diode. So, we could, so we've got flex flexibility with colours and things, Robert Richardson: Mm. Brian Albrecht: with that as well. Okay, there are lots of different possibilities for the energy source. We could use a basic battery, but that brings with it, like they need to be recharged and the bulk, the size of it as well. And they're not so great to dispose of, environmentally. There's a hand-powered dynamo which is a sort of thing that was used for torches fifty years ago. A bit out of date. Kinetic energy is something Robert Richardson: Um Brian Albrecht: that's been recently developed. Robert Richardson: What is a hand-powered dynamo? Brian Albrecht: Um, where you manually charge up the power. Like you Robert Richardson: Just Brian Albrecht: wind Robert Richardson: every, Brian Albrecht: up Robert Richardson: every Brian Albrecht: something. Robert Richardson: once in a while? Brian Albrecht: Sorry? Robert Richardson: Just every once in a while Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: or constantly? Brian Albrecht: Every once in a while I think. But Robert Richardson: Alright. Brian Albrecht: it's Robert Richardson: It'd be kind of strange to always be Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: cranking Brian Albrecht: It would be like Robert Richardson: it Brian Albrecht: going Robert Richardson: I think. Brian Albrecht: a step back John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: in time. I don't think it would really be with kind of cutting edge technology. Robert Richardson: No. Brian Albrecht: Whereas kinetic energy is a new idea that's being used by some watches and other devices, where you just shake the device and it gives it power. I mean, the kinetic energy is transformed into power to make the circuit work. Um, or there's solar power, which we've been considering inside a building, which is where it's gonna be used, might not be quite so Robert Richardson: Right. Brian Albrecht: useful. But, good to look into, renewable energy, always the way. Um, lots of considerations for the case, like what sort of shape it would be, curved or flat. That's got a lot to do with the ergonomics. Like how it's comfortable and s sits in the hand. We don't want something that's huge and you can't pick up. Or too small. Or too slidy. I know I've had a remote control before which you couldn't tell which was the front and the back, 'cause it had so many buttons on, and the shape was so symmetrical that I'd be pressing like Danny Schirmer: Mm. Brian Albrecht: a volume button instead of the on button. Because you can't really see which way round it is. Robert Richardson: Right. Brian Albrecht: Um, we also can choose what materials um, the we could use metal, we could use rubber which might be more um ideal for the anti-R_S_I_. It's like the same sort of rubber that's used in stress balls and Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: things like that, so it's very like soft, not so stressful on your hands. Wood. Um, again, stepping back in time again there. I don't think that's quite up to date with what we're looking for here. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Um, titanium is not gonna be possible, even though it just it beyond our budget really. But, would've been maybe for future projects. Um right our choice for buttons as well. We've developed some we've got some good advances in technology, with our research team have found some uh new multiple um option scroll buttons. I think that was brought up for, um, they're basically quite a flexible design, modern, you don't have to use individual buttons. You can just slide up and down. I'm sure we're all quite familiar with those on John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: mobiles or computer laptop pads. Robert Richardson: Um one thing with the scroll buttons though. It, it we would have to have an L_C_D_ um Brian Albrecht: Yeah. That's true. Robert Richardson: display, and Brian Albrecht: And that would Robert Richardson: the Brian Albrecht: lead to Robert Richardson: glow Brian Albrecht: an advanced Robert Richardson: in the dark thing Brian Albrecht: yeah. If Robert Richardson: might Brian Albrecht: we have Robert Richardson: be difficult. Brian Albrecht: yeah. We're going on to that later with the advanc with the L_C_D_ that means we'd need a really advanced chip. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: And it's Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: unlikely that that's gonna be in our budget. Um, also we've got the integrated pushbutton, which is what we're most familiar with. It's the most straightforward. But you can in like incorporate that with a scroll button as well. Got decisions to make there. this is what I was just saying before. Linked in the different depends on what type of buttons we have and the inputs. Um simple would go with the pushbutton. Um, regular you could link with the scroll button. And the advanced we'd have to go with a L_C_D_ s Robert Richardson: Right. Brian Albrecht: display. My personal preferences? I think we could go for the kinetic energy source. I don't, I think that's quite um an advanced kind of technology. It's not been seen before, so it could be quite a, a novelty factor, attractive as well. And also energy saving 'cause you're producing the energy, you don't need an external sort of battery supply or solar panels. You just give it a shake. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Sounds brilliant to Danny Schirmer. Rubber Robert Richardson: Uh. Brian Albrecht: casing I thing would probably the best, if we're going for the anti-R_S_I_ and like more choice with um aesthetics. Like it could be pretty much any colour we want. Um, and gives you, yeah, more flexibility there. And probably the regular chip as opposed to the simple, then we could possibly have the scroll and the push, but no L_C_D_, 'cause we probably can't afford that one. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Um, one concern with the rubber casing Brian Albrecht: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: is that it would be rubber encapsulating all of these chips and diodes and delicate technology as like as the exterior. This is the one thing that's protecting its innards. Brian Albrecht: I think that would, uh there would be an in sort of more internal casing. And the rubber would just be the, what's in contact with the human. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Another thing is it might be more difficult if it's a rubber exterior talking about putting on interchangeable plates. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: Um, is it I don't see how a like a rubber plate going on top it would stay there. Like if it was sort of like a clip-on plastic plate. It would work that way. Brian Albrecht: Maybe John Reitano: W Brian Albrecht: if the, um, if it was just kind of a, more of a rubber coating which was on to a case. So, it was kind of, the whole thing would be removable. John Reitano: Like plastic with rubber, kind Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: of on top Brian Albrecht: Like Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I can't think of what. John Reitano: Well, there's, there is a certain phone that has like a rubber casing, Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: b like a Brian Albrecht: Or John Reitano: Nokia Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: like an you John Reitano: it is. Brian Albrecht: can get John Reitano: It's Brian Albrecht: sort of outer casing for John Reitano: yeah. Brian Albrecht: iPods and something, that's just Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Like the Brian Albrecht: it's Danny Schirmer: skin? Brian Albrecht: protective as Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: well. It, it stops it, I mean, it would reduce the impact if it was dropped or something, Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: as well, 'cause it wouldn't damage itself so easily. Robert Richardson: Alright. Brian Albrecht: I think Robert Richardson: So maybe Brian Albrecht: i maybe Robert Richardson: the Danny Schirmer: Okay. Brian Albrecht: a mixture of both there, Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: maybe. Yeah. Danny Schirmer: So the actual remote would be hard plastic and Brian Albrecht: And Danny Schirmer: the Brian Albrecht: then Danny Schirmer: casings Brian Albrecht: yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: rubber. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Okay. And the buttons Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: obviously are rubber. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Yeah. That sounds good. I, um, is it possible to put designs onto this type of rubber? Brian Albrecht: As far as I know. It should be. Robert Richardson: Okay, we'll just say yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yes, just why Brian Albrecht: Yeah, Robert Richardson: not. Brian Albrecht: yeah. Robert Richardson: Alright. I like the kinetic energy source idea. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. I Robert Richardson: Um, Brian Albrecht: thought that was Robert Richardson: I don't know when people will, um, be moving a remote around a lot. John Reitano: Yeah, Robert Richardson: But John Reitano: tha Robert Richardson: I think Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: that it's worth it, kinetety, kinetic um energy source. It could Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: make an we could have any kind of style. It wouldn't be as heavy or bulky, and Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Just for environmental reasons. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: I guess it's a bit scary 'cause it hasn't been done before. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: So it seems we'd have to do more research on it. Or I dunno Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: if you could have a battery pack. Brian Albrecht: Like as a John Reitano: Backup. Brian Albrecht: backup Danny Schirmer: Yeah John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: for Danny Schirmer: so there's Brian Albrecht: something. Danny Schirmer: there is a one because most remotes use two batteries Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: I believe. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: So, if it was running off of one battery as John Reitano: That Danny Schirmer: a John Reitano: would be good yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Some alternative just in case Danny Schirmer: Right. Brian Albrecht: something went wrong. John Reitano: Maybe we could you were saying about um solar power ma maybe not working indoors, but a lot of calculators, Brian Albrecht: That's true. John Reitano: yeah, Brian Albrecht: I just thought John Reitano: have Brian Albrecht: of that. John Reitano: solar power. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: So maybe could Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: be incorporated Brian Albrecht: May John Reitano: as Brian Albrecht: maybe that could be the backup. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Instead Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: of a battery. Danny Schirmer: Although Brian Albrecht: Like solar Danny Schirmer: it needs Brian Albrecht: backup. Danny Schirmer: some light, doesn't it? Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: Do, Brian Albrecht: I suppose Robert Richardson: Yeah, Danny Schirmer: So, John Reitano: do Robert Richardson: you John Reitano: those Brian Albrecht: s Robert Richardson: can John Reitano: calculators Brian Albrecht: but Robert Richardson: watch Brian Albrecht: some Robert Richardson: a T_V_ Danny Schirmer: if Robert Richardson: in the dark Danny Schirmer: we're doing Robert Richardson: then. John Reitano: yeah. Danny Schirmer: yeah. If we're Brian Albrecht: But John Reitano: I Brian Albrecht: thing John Reitano: don't Brian Albrecht: is, it's John Reitano: know how Brian Albrecht: not John Reitano: it Brian Albrecht: you don't John Reitano: works. Brian Albrecht: need the solar all the time. It can be stored. It can be like John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: you can Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: have the solar energy and then it can store that energy and use it. It just needs to be in light for a certain John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: amount of time per day. Like a few Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: hours a day. Robert Richardson: I think that might be a little impractical though. Danny Schirmer: Yeah. I think sometimes it's just shoved under, under a cushion, and Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: That's true. It John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: could Danny Schirmer: yeah. Brian Albrecht: easily Robert Richardson: Like people don't wanna have to worry about that. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I suppose it would be really annoying if you get to think, oh no, I forgot to charge my remote today. Like Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: if the kinetic thing, I think what's John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: best about Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: that is that it's instant energy. You don't have to, you know, you can shake it a few times, or whatever. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: And Robert Richardson: Or just like Brian Albrecht: it Robert Richardson: pick Brian Albrecht: works. Robert Richardson: it up when you're gonna Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah, Robert Richardson: use John Reitano: I Robert Richardson: it. John Reitano: suppose. Brian Albrecht: Instead of you don't have to like make sure it's in the right place to charge and. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Alright. Cool. Brian Albrecht: K okay. Robert Richardson: 'S that the end of your presentation. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Alright. Thank you. Brian Albrecht: There we go. John Reitano: Thanks. John Reitano: Oh. John Reitano: It's not on my screen. Why? Brian Albrecht: it wasn't on mine either. I don't know why. I think, John Reitano: You Brian Albrecht: I just, John Reitano: don't know Brian Albrecht: I John Reitano: why? Brian Albrecht: just used the mouse on there. John Reitano: Oh okay. Is it that one? Robert Richardson: Yeah. That's Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: um John Reitano: Um, I'm just gonna go through the interface concept with yous now. Uh, first of all I'll explain what a user interface is. It's the aspects of a computer system which can be seen or otherwise perceived, for example, heard or felt maybe, or by the human user. And it's also the commands that the user uses to control its operation and to input data. Um, there are two types of user interfaces. There's the graphical user interface, which emphasises the use of pictures for output and a pointing device, for example a mouse for input control. So that's sort of like the scroll thing we were talking about. Robert Richardson: Oh. Okay. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: I'm not really sure about the pictures that maybe that's on an L_C_D_ screen. Brian Albrecht: Mm. John Reitano: Or maybe it's the the buttons or pictures or something. Robert Richardson: Hmm. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: Do you think Brian Albrecht: So John Reitano: it's Brian Albrecht: I suppose sometime Robert Richardson: Yeah, 'cause Brian Albrecht: after you. Robert Richardson: I'm sorry? Um, because command interface requires you to type textual commands and input at a keyboard, so the numbers are sort of like a keyboard. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: You're pressing the numbers John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: for, Brian Albrecht: Mm. Robert Richardson: um, John Reitano: So you must, Robert Richardson: for what you want. John Reitano: for the graphical user you must need some kind of presentation for the graphics. Like an Brian Albrecht: I John Reitano: L_C_D_ Brian Albrecht: s I John Reitano: screen. Brian Albrecht: suppose where um mm on some buttons you would have like the power would be s some kind of symbol. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: And if you wanted to go onto teletext or, I know we're not having that, but John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I mean a similar thing, you, they have there's a like little picture with a screen with lines across it, which John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I suppose it's that sort of thing like the, John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: the symbol on the button. But if we're having a simplified display anyway, w that, we Robert Richardson: Yeah, Brian Albrecht: probably Robert Richardson: we'll be Brian Albrecht: won't Robert Richardson: doing Brian Albrecht: have to focus so much on that. It'll be more the on the numbers John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: and the Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: volume. Robert Richardson: It'd be more a command interface, John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: and Brian Albrecht: I suppose Robert Richardson: then Brian Albrecht: we need to think of symbols for like the volume, display, and Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: stuff like that. Danny Schirmer: So it's just draf graphical for the pointing aspect? The infrared Brian Albrecht: I Danny Schirmer: is like, that's considered a Robert Richardson: Hmm? John Reitano: No I think it's to do with the actual symbols that are on the, that's on the buttons of the remote control, and Danny Schirmer: Okay. So when it says John Reitano: per Danny Schirmer: pointing Brian Albrecht: For inp Danny Schirmer: device that doesn't include John Reitano: Well it could be a wee scroller thing, and something could come up on the screen. Robert Richardson: Yeah. I think they're talking about L_C_D_ type things. Brian Albrecht: Mm. Danny Schirmer: Okay. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: But um I think we're gonna go with the command interface anyway, to make Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: it more simplistic. Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: But the, we could incorporate some of the graphical user um points, as in just to make it m um nicer to look at maybe. Robert Richardson: What do you mean? John Reitano: Like I can't think of an example, but Sort of like little pictures rather than Robert Richardson: Oh yeah, like John Reitano: Like Robert Richardson: how John Reitano: a little Robert Richardson: the buttons John Reitano: sound. Instead of saying volume, like a little speaker or something. Robert Richardson: Yeah, John Reitano: Yeah, Danny Schirmer: Mm. Robert Richardson: as John Reitano: something Robert Richardson: a button though. John Reitano: y Robert Richardson: So, it's a keyboard in the shape of it, John Reitano: Yeah Robert Richardson: right? John Reitano: m perha yeah. Robert Richardson: Okay. John Reitano: Yeah. Maybe. Robert Richardson: Yeah. I like that idea. John Reitano: Um, the co uh we've decided that the command interface would be the most useful for a remote control. As it would be less complicated, and the controls would be more user-friendly. Um, the remote control would be cheaper to design, so that we'd have more money in the budget to, um, target the design area of the interface. You know, make it more trendy and original. We'll have more money if we keep it simple. Robert Richardson: Yeah. I'm sure i like kinetic energy would probably dip into the budget. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: A bit more too, John Reitano: Seeing Robert Richardson: yeah. John Reitano: as it's quite a new technology. Um We, we also have to keep in mind when we're designing our, um, more user-friendly remote control, that a lot of interfaces consist of a clutter of buttons, that, um, that their functions, colours and forms aren't always helpful. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. That's true. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: That's in like the buttons with all the different like colours for different choices and things. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: It can be a bit, yeah, overwhelming. John Reitano: And that all interfaces are different. So, um, that doesn't improve the use of the produ product, so we need to come up with something that's easy to understand. And maybe learn from the mistakes of other interfaces that can be too complicated for people to use. Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: Yep. John Reitano: Does anyone have any questions? Robert Richardson: Do you think that we should keep all the buttons to one same colour, just to keep it, give it a simplistic look. John Reitano: Mm. Danny Schirmer: I think if we go with the um design plate thing, we'll have to. Just because of colour clashing, and Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: if we Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: wanted to, so and, and we might, I mean, depending on what comes out of the design, we might have to stick to just black buttons. John Reitano: But um Robert Richardson: But what about the lighting up effect? Danny Schirmer: You mean different colours for the lighting or Robert Richardson: Um, well, um, I thought we had um decided that we would if you touched one of the buttons they'd all light up. And Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: so if they were black, it wouldn't be possible for them to light up. Danny Schirmer: Oh I see what you're saying. Well y Robert Richardson: If they were white they would glow, probably. If they were made out of rubber. Danny Schirmer: Oh so you're picturing the light is coming from the back. I kinda pictured it as kind of coming from the sides and lighting it up frontwards. Brian Albrecht: Oh. Danny Schirmer: But, Robert Richardson: Oh. Where Danny Schirmer: but Robert Richardson: would the Danny Schirmer: I guess, Robert Richardson: light Danny Schirmer: you Robert Richardson: come Danny Schirmer: mean from Robert Richardson: from? Danny Schirmer: the back. Okay. Brian Albrecht: I'd assume, like, an internal light, Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: that comes through. So there would have to, have to be some parts maybe transparent around Danny Schirmer: Right. Brian Albrecht: the buttons, Robert Richardson: Yeah, Brian Albrecht: or something. Robert Richardson: and well rubber is a more translucent Brian Albrecht: Yeah, yeah. Robert Richardson: product too, so Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: It should be able Robert Richardson: we Brian Albrecht: to Robert Richardson: have that taken care of. Brian Albrecht: mm-hmm. John Reitano: In the phone that I was thinking of as well, when you change the um covers of it, the, the little buttons that actually, you know, that contro Brian Albrecht: Li yeah. John Reitano: control stuff, are behind the rubber. So you can change the buttons when you're changing the faces. Do Danny Schirmer: Oh. John Reitano: you know what I mean? Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Oh. John Reitano: 'Cause Danny Schirmer: They, John Reitano: it's Danny Schirmer: they John Reitano: just Danny Schirmer: insert John Reitano: the wee control, Danny Schirmer: over. John Reitano: yeah, Danny Schirmer: Okay. John Reitano: thing that's behind it. So Robert Richardson: Mm. John Reitano: I mean, we don't have to decide on one colour. Each face could have its own colour of buttons maybe? Brian Albrecht: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: Well, if they're raised up buttons. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: So that you can feel them. We were talking about it being more um, a Danny Schirmer: T Robert Richardson: lot more tangible. Um, it might be more difficult to do. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: If they're, if they're sticking up. If it's flat then, like o like on a cellphone or a mobile phone, it's like all very flat, and you just have to sort of press down on these tiny little buttons, but John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I think it would be possible. I don't think it would make that much difference. I mean, the uh the dimensions of it. 'Cause if it's just like constructed in the same way as like the front cover of a mobile phone. You can like take off the hard cover and then there's the like say the buttons. And then you get to the circuit. I don't think it would matter that the buttons were bigger through the, the top casing. I'm sure you could f work it out to fit in the casing, without Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: causing too much difficulty. I'm sure Robert Richardson: Okay. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: that'd be fine. Robert Richardson: Alright. If it's do-able we can do. Yeah, sounds good to Danny Schirmer. John Reitano: So that's everything, then? Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: Alright, thank you. Danny Schirmer: Okay is that my turn then? John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Alright. I have a shorter report for you today. Um, it took a while to get this, uh Uh. Brian Albrecht: You're not plugged in yet. Danny Schirmer: Oh. That's a very good point. Danny Schirmer: Okay, so um, this report is about uh trend-watching. Um, basically so we can live up to our, our uh purpose of having a very fashionable remote control. Sorry. There we go. Um So, just so you know, my method was mainly web web-based research this time around. I also spoke with fashion experts in Milan, New York and Paris. And I looked at the design reports from previous years, here at Real Remote. Um, just so c we can work off of them, see how fashions have changed. Um, so I'll list the three most important aspects that I've come across. Um, and they, they're each more important than the one that comes after it. Uh, the first one is that there should be a fancy look-and-feel, instead of the current functional look-and-feel. Um, this should be our priority, as we've been saying. The second most important aspect is that a remote sh that the remote control should be technologically innovative. So, I think we've done a lot of talking about that, just with lighting and the buttons and the face-plates. Um, so it looks like we'll be able to keep on track with that. And the third most important aspect is that the remote control should be easy to use. So, pretty basic there. And the recent fashion update, uh, according to fashion-watchers in Paris and Milan, is that fruit and vegetables will be the most important theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. Um, also, in contra uh in contrast to last year, the feel of the material is expected to be spongy. Again, we've already discussed that with rubber versus hard plastic buttons. Um So, my personal preferences here, um of course, as we, we've already talked about the personal face-plates in this meeting, and I'd like to stick to that. The fruits and vegetable themes, I don't know if that's going to work for us. It sounds something that you'd use on kitchenware. I don't Brian Albrecht: Mm. Danny Schirmer: know if we wanna do it on remotes. It could be one of the options. Maybe Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. Danny Schirmer: for the television that people have in their kitchen. Um, the temporary light-up idea, sounds like we're gonna stick to that. And then, uh, tying in a trendy look with user-friendliness. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Yeah, it's the fruits and vegetables is the only area that I find rather jarring. Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: Everything Brian Albrecht: It Robert Richardson: else Brian Albrecht: is Robert Richardson: we Brian Albrecht: strange. Robert Richardson: can really, we can really um, do, according to our plans already, given the market. But fruits and vegetables seems a very strange Danny Schirmer: It's, Robert Richardson: idea Danny Schirmer: it's Robert Richardson: for Danny Schirmer: a little Robert Richardson: a remote John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: control. Brian Albrecht: Well Danny Schirmer: but it, it's everywhere. So maybe Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: we I've seen a lot of purses with olives on them, you know. But Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: I I think, I think if we stick to T_V_ based, you know, maybe T_V_ shows, or John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Or Robert Richardson: But they Danny Schirmer: colour Robert Richardson: still Danny Schirmer: schemes. Robert Richardson: need to Brian Albrecht: We Robert Richardson: um fit into people's decor though. Danny Schirmer: Right. Brian Albrecht: I think we possibly could take a more abstract design. Like look at the basic shapes of different fruits and vegetables. And then just really like strip it down to like really basic shapes. I mean we don't have to make something in the shape of a strawberry, but it could have the curves of a strawberry, Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: or something. Danny Schirmer: The John Reitano: Yeah, Brian Albrecht: Or a strawberry seed John Reitano: yeah. Brian Albrecht: or Danny Schirmer: The Brian Albrecht: a leaf. Danny Schirmer: essence of strawberry. Brian Albrecht: Or just Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: like Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: you know really make it a quite abstract, if that's fits in more with what we're doing. Instead John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: of fruits and vegetables, just Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: if you look at it straightforward, it's a bit yeah. It doesn't s quite fit in with the trendy well, obviously it does, if that's the current Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: theme. But may maybe we could go more directly, I don't know. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: But initially, I dunno. I think if we just sort of tone it down a bit. Robert Richardson: Tone Danny Schirmer: I guess, Robert Richardson: it down. Brian Albrecht: Yeah Robert Richardson: Yeah, John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: yeah. Robert Richardson: like more Brian Albrecht: and Robert Richardson: like Brian Albrecht: like not, Robert Richardson: photos Brian Albrecht: not Robert Richardson: of fruit, Brian Albrecht: yeah. Robert Richardson: on, John Reitano: Or Robert Richardson: on our product. John Reitano: banana-shaped. Danny Schirmer: One thing I was thinking though is I dunno if you all remember from our kickoff meeting, we talked about our favourite animals. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: So maybe there could be animal-based, you know. Because a lot of people have a house cat. Or, or a dog. Brian Albrecht: Mm. Danny Schirmer: Um, that might be getting, you know, too specific, and we should see what the success of the first face-plates are. But it's something to keep in mind. Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. Danny Schirmer: And, did you have any questions? Pretty straightforward? Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah um Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Alright, given that information, we need to start making some more specific decisions. So I'll need to um hook up the PowerPoint again. Danny Schirmer: There you go. Danny Schirmer: Have you guys been saving your PowerPoint presentations to the Brian Albrecht: I didn't for the first one. Danny Schirmer: okay. Brian Albrecht: But I have now. Robert Richardson: But it's still around right? Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Okay. Brian Albrecht: Uh, John Reitano: Where Brian Albrecht: hopefully. John Reitano: do you have to save it to? Brian Albrecht: Project documents I think. John Reitano: Okay. Robert Richardson: Okay. I'm just trying to make this pop up now. Robert Richardson: Alright. Here we go. Okay so we have to uh decide now exactly what we are going to do. So Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: energy, we oh. Brian Albrecht: 'Kay. Robert Richardson: Oh no I can't write it in when it's in this setting. Does anyone know how to take it out of Um, John Reitano: Just Danny Schirmer: The PowerPoint? John Reitano: escape Robert Richardson: yeah. John Reitano: I think. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Okay. Um, so back to decisions. Energy, we've decided on kinetic, Brian Albrecht: Kinetic Robert Richardson: right? John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: yeah. Robert Richardson: Okay, so that's good. Brian Albrecht: Are we going to have a backup? Robert Richardson: Hmm. Brian Albrecht: Or do we just Robert Richardson: But would a backup really be necessary? I mean will people just use the battery if there's no, if there's, Brian Albrecht: I think maybe Robert Richardson: if there is backup. Brian Albrecht: we could just go for the kinetic energy, and be bold and innovative, and Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: hope this works, and well hope that it works. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: I think yeah. Robert Richardson: There's Brian Albrecht: I think Robert Richardson: like no reason why it wouldn't work, Brian Albrecht: no. Robert Richardson: right? Danny Schirmer: So Brian Albrecht: I, I think we should just like take uh advantage of like using this to its full potential. Robert Richardson: Yeah. It Brian Albrecht: Go Robert Richardson: could even Brian Albrecht: for Robert Richardson: be Brian Albrecht: it. Robert Richardson: one of our selling points. Brian Albrecht: It could John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: be fully Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: kinetic energy. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Environmentally conscious Brian Albrecht: Is Robert Richardson: or something. Danny Schirmer: So Brian Albrecht: everyone Danny Schirmer: if it's Brian Albrecht: happy Danny Schirmer: not working Brian Albrecht: with that? Danny Schirmer: they just have to shake it a bit and that revitalises Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: it? Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Okay. John Reitano: Hope so. Robert Richardson: Alright, the next um decision is chip on print. I don't exactly know what that means. Brian Albrecht: Um, it was whether we went for the simple, the regular, or the advanced chip. And that linked in with what buttons we would gonna have, so Robert Richardson: Right, and we were going for more simplistic style, right? Brian Albrecht: Yeah, it John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: was so that was without the L_C_D_. So that means we're not Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: doing the advanced. So it depends on whether we wanted the scroll buttons or just the push buttons. Robert Richardson: I think we decided on the pushbuttons, right? John Reitano: Yeah. I Brian Albrecht: Uh, John Reitano: don Brian Albrecht: so that's Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: yeah. Brian Albrecht: the simple. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Would we need a more advanced one for uh the lighting, the interior lighting system? Brian Albrecht: Yeah possibly. So, it's Robert Richardson: Yeah? Brian Albrecht: probably gonna be the regular chip that we're going to need. So it's a Robert Richardson: Okay. Brian Albrecht: medium. So regular Robert Richardson: That's called Brian Albrecht: chip. Robert Richardson: medium, or regular? Brian Albrecht: Regular sorry. Robert Richardson: 'Kay. Brian Albrecht: Regular chip. Danny Schirmer: Oh, is regular not simple? John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Lighting. Yeah John Reitano: It's for Brian Albrecht: if John Reitano: the lighting, Brian Albrecht: we John Reitano: yeah. Brian Albrecht: because of the lighting that we've decided to put Danny Schirmer: Right Brian Albrecht: in as Danny Schirmer: right Brian Albrecht: well. Danny Schirmer: right. Robert Richardson: Okay, and cases. Um, Brian Albrecht: So Robert Richardson: does Brian Albrecht: th Robert Richardson: this, is this dependent on shape, or what it's made of, or what? Brian Albrecht: I think this is just like gonna be the a very outer case, which we will decide on rubber. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Well, I guess plastic and Brian Albrecht: Rubber. Robert Richardson: coated John Reitano: Yeah Robert Richardson: in rubber. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Plastic Brian Albrecht: Plastic John Reitano: plastic Brian Albrecht: rubber John Reitano: coat. Brian Albrecht: coat. Robert Richardson: with rubber coating and interchangeable Brian Albrecht: Interchangeable, Robert Richardson: um Brian Albrecht: yeah. Still going for that. Robert Richardson: yeah, interchangeable Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: plates. Okay. User interface concept. This is your time to shine. John Reitano: We decided on the component. I, I I'm sorry, I've lost my um PowerPoint Brian Albrecht: Your screen? John Reitano: thing, so I can't remember what it's Danny Schirmer: Think John Reitano: ca Danny Schirmer: it was John Reitano: it's Danny Schirmer: called John Reitano: the Danny Schirmer: command John Reitano: component Danny Schirmer: interface. Brian Albrecht: Was it Robert Richardson: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Command interface, John Reitano: The command Robert Richardson: Command John Reitano: inter Robert Richardson: interface. Brian Albrecht: Ouch. John Reitano: The command line interface yeah. Robert Richardson: Did you say command line? John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Okay. Line interface. Alright, and supplements. What's that all about? John Reitano: Um, I think that is well we haven't really made any decisions about what we're gonna do about the cluster of button functions, colours and forms, in the in consistent use Like. what what are ideas to combat these problems? Robert Richardson: Um John Reitano: You know how um different interfaces are very different, and can be confusing because because of their difference, and because of Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: the different clusters of buttons that they have. We haven't really decided what to do about that. Robert Richardson: Um, what are our choices here? John Reitano: Well it's just um w where where shall we locate the buttons. What kind of functions wi shall we have? Robert Richardson: You mean like we'll have the numbers of the channels, and we'll have Brian Albrecht: The power. Robert Richardson: the channel-changer, and volume, Brian Albrecht: Volume. Robert Richardson: and power? Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: So pretty Robert Richardson: Um John Reitano: just just the basic Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: button Robert Richardson: Like I John Reitano: functions. Robert Richardson: don't know if we should go into like adjusting light levels, things like that, because different televisions will have Brian Albrecht: May yeah. Tone, contrast, Robert Richardson: Um, Brian Albrecht: and things. Robert Richardson: yeah. Brian Albrecht: That's a bit Danny Schirmer: That was on, um one of my presentations. About how often it was used. Do you remember that? Brian Albrecht: Yeah, it Robert Richardson: Yep. Brian Albrecht: was minima well, John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: it wasn't Robert Richardson: Yeah, Brian Albrecht: the Robert Richardson: it was Brian Albrecht: l Robert Richardson: hardly ever used Danny Schirmer: I w Robert Richardson: really. Danny Schirmer: Should I bring it up? Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. That Robert Richardson: And Brian Albrecht: would Robert Richardson: most televisions Brian Albrecht: be good. Robert Richardson: will come with a remote. Brian Albrecht: Yeah, and surely that would be like quite specific to John Reitano: Yeah, Brian Albrecht: the John Reitano: each Brian Albrecht: individual Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: television. Brian Albrecht: television, so Robert Richardson: 'Kay, well we know we want numbers. Danny Schirmer: The ch t Screen settings was used um zero point five times an hour. So tw twice every once every two hours. Um, and it was considered a one point five relevance, on a scale of ten. That's brightness, colour, tone, Brian Albrecht: Mm. Danny Schirmer: all that. John Reitano: You don't change Brian Albrecht: I think most John Reitano: that Brian Albrecht: of that comes John Reitano: often, Brian Albrecht: like on the John Reitano: yeah. Brian Albrecht: i individual television set itself, doesn't it? I'm sure it has Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: Yeah, it Brian Albrecht: its Robert Richardson: does. Brian Albrecht: own buttons, so you don't necessarily need to have it on remote. Robert Richardson: Yeah, and John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: different televisions. Like we, I don't know if we can make a remote that would be universal to all the different kinds Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: of Brian Albrecht: So Robert Richardson: changes Brian Albrecht: we're just going Robert Richardson: like that. Brian Albrecht: for power, channels, Robert Richardson: Volume. Brian Albrecht: volume, Danny Schirmer: The other one was audio settings. Mono, stereo, pitch. I mean I sometimes use that. Some T_V_s will have the option of like living room style, movie style, John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: um and that, they say that's used zero point eight times an hour, which is actually somewhat high. Like Brian Albrecht: Mm. Danny Schirmer: almost once an hour. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Um, relevance of two. Robert Richardson: Oh. We have five minutes to finish our meeting. Crap. Okay, um, let's do this fast. Um Danny Schirmer: Well that didn't some up on mine. Robert Richardson: Should we have audio? It only comes up on mine usually. John Reitano: It w it Danny Schirmer: Oh. John Reitano: would seem silly if we'd having anything else, just have an audio button though. Do you know? Robert Richardson: Yeah, I don't, I it's, it's a problem with the international uh appeal, I think. Um, if we have audio because we don't know how other televisions work. John Reitano: But Robert Richardson: But we John Reitano: we Robert Richardson: know that everyone has this and it's the same. Danny Schirmer: Yeah I guess Brian Albrecht: I've Danny Schirmer: that it affects the marketing, 'cause it, mm it is a good sales ploy to say, aren't you annoyed with remote controls that have all these buttons. John Reitano: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: This one has channel, volume Brian Albrecht: Yeah, that's it. Danny Schirmer: and your John Reitano: That Danny Schirmer: channe Brian Albrecht: We John Reitano: could Brian Albrecht: can John Reitano: be Brian Albrecht: just Danny Schirmer: and John Reitano: a Brian Albrecht: go Danny Schirmer: your John Reitano: sales Danny Schirmer: power. Brian Albrecht: for, Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: make John Reitano: pitch. Brian Albrecht: it a Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: selling point that it is just John Reitano: Simple Brian Albrecht: the basic. Robert Richardson: Yeah. John Reitano: and Brian Albrecht: Yeah uh I Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Alright. John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: brilliant. Robert Richardson: Good. And, okay, in closing, 'cause we only have five minutes. We'll be meeting again in thirty minutes. Um, you'll be working, Poppy will be working on the look-and-feel design. Wait a minute. Is that right? Brian Albrecht: Mm-hmm. Robert Richardson: Yep, and um the user interface design, so this is where the trendy stuff comes in. And you'll be evaluating the product. Um, Poppy and Tara will have to work together, using modelling clay. And, um, your personal coach will give you the rest of the information of what needs to happen. Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: Alright. So, anyone else have something to say? Brian Albrecht: Um, I just have one question about Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: the whole fruit and vegetable aspect. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. Brian Albrecht: Are we seeing as that was the most popular thing that came up out of your market research, I thi I think we should keep to that rather than moving to animals or something, because Danny Schirmer: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: even if that may not seem obvious to us, if that's what the surveys brought out, I think that we should probably go along with that. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Um, so I suppose that'll come out in our dev design development. But you're happy to go ahead with the fruit and Danny Schirmer: Now Brian Albrecht: veg? Danny Schirmer: do you guys need want an idea of how many uh are you gonna come up with casing ideas? Like f Brian Albrecht: Y Danny Schirmer: five different John Reitano: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: Yeah. John Reitano: What I Robert Richardson: five. John Reitano: What I was thinking what do yous think of this? Um, having the numbers kind of like, not a bunch of grapes, but you know like purple and kind of in a triangle. Danny Schirmer: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: Like grapes. Danny Schirmer: Yeah you John Reitano: Like Danny Schirmer: can have John Reitano: that's Danny Schirmer: some fun John Reitano: kind Danny Schirmer: with John Reitano: of Danny Schirmer: the buttons, it's John Reitano: fruity Danny Schirmer: true. Robert Richardson: Mm-hmm. John Reitano: or something. That's Danny Schirmer: Yeah. John Reitano: just Brian Albrecht: We can have a look at those ideas, yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: I guess what you i ideally you'd kind of think of age markets as well. So it's Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: a something that will, you know, appeal to the fifteen to twenty five year olds. Something that your granny would want on her remote control. Um, Brian Albrecht: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Yeah. Danny Schirmer: and international tastes as well, so Brian Albrecht: Tricky. Danny Schirmer: Not easy. Brian Albrecht: A lot Robert Richardson: Yeah. Brian Albrecht: of things to consider. John Reitano: Yeah. Robert Richardson: Lots Brian Albrecht: Hm. Robert Richardson: of yeah. Alright. Brian Albrecht: Okay. Robert Richardson: 'Kay we'll stick to the fruit and veggie theme then. Alright. And, um, we'll reconvene in thirty minutes. Brian Albrecht: Okay. John Reitano: Okay. Robert Richardson: 'Kay. Danny Schirmer: Okay. Robert Richardson: Bye. Brian Albrecht: Thank you. Robert Richardson: I'll see you later. Oh, what did I just do. Okay.

Robert Richardson opens this conceptual design meeting and gives them the agenda. Brian Albrecht presents first and talks about the components of a remote, energy source options, and materials for the remote, case, and buttons. The interface specialist presents the interface concept by explaining the difference between graphical and command interface. They decide the command interface is most useful for a remote because it is simpler and more user-friendly. The group discusses aspects of the user interface including the lighting up effect and material of the buttons. Danny Schirmer presents on trend-watching and talks about how fruit and vegetables are an important fashion theme this year, and says the material used is expected to be spongy. The group discusses how they could implement these fashion trends into the design, then finalizes a few decisions about the components, materials, and energy sources. Robert Richardson closes the meeting, stating what each member's next task will be.

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Clay Poole: Okay. Here we go. Alright, the agenda thi oh. Alright. Um the agenda for this meeting is um we'll initially have the prototype presentation by our two designers. And then we will evaluate it, given the criteria that um that we gave gave it. And um talk about our finances, whether we were under or over our budget. I have a um a spreadsheet where we can calculate um our prices for every aspect of of what we've made, given our options. And um product, as a group Nicholas Dews: Okay. Clay Poole: And um So first we'll have the prototype presentation. Do you need the um PowerPoint for Nicholas Dews: Um Clay Poole: this? Nicholas Dews: yeah. I just got a few, Clay Poole: Alright. Nicholas Dews: show them. Thank you. Nicholas Dews: Do you want to present it? James Satterthwaite: Um Nicholas Dews: Yeah, here we are. James Satterthwaite: This is what we came up with. It's a pretty simple design. It's um based on a mango? Yeah. And Clay Poole: On? Nicholas Dews: Mango James Satterthwaite: we Clay Poole: A Nicholas Dews: shape. Clay Poole: mango. Okay. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. And we have the company logo here and this will be the infrared Nicholas Dews: The James Satterthwaite: here Nicholas Dews: L_E_D_. James Satterthwaite: and this'll be the power point, the on off button Clay Poole: Oh. Okay. James Satterthwaite: kind yeah. Jess Ellingham: I'm sorry. What was the where's Clay Poole: Oops. Jess Ellingham: the L_E_D_? James Satterthwaite: It's in the middle of one of the little R_s. Jess Ellingham: Oh. Okay. James Satterthwaite: And then the other one is the power. And uh we just have a simple design. We wanted it all to be Nicholas Dews: So it's palm-held. James Satterthwaite: thumb yeah palm-held Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: and Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: all the buttons are accessible from your thumb. Clay Poole: Notice James Satterthwaite: So Clay Poole: you have James Satterthwaite: you Clay Poole: a number James Satterthwaite: don't have Clay Poole: ten James Satterthwaite: to Clay Poole: button. James Satterthwaite: Oh that was a mistake, wasn't it? Right Nicholas Dews: You James Satterthwaite: no, Nicholas Dews: just need the James Satterthwaite: that's Nicholas Dews: nought. James Satterthwaite: a zero. Take that one off. Clay Poole: Okay. James Satterthwaite: Sorry. I was in charge of the numbers. Clay Poole: No problem. Ah. James Satterthwaite: And this is just if you've got like eleven or twelve or thirt the plus. Nicholas Dews: So one plus James Satterthwaite: You can Nicholas Dews: one James Satterthwaite: go Nicholas Dews: would be James Satterthwaite: one, Nicholas Dews: eleven, or James Satterthwaite: three or something. Clay Poole: Oh. James Satterthwaite: You Clay Poole: You James Satterthwaite: press Clay Poole: press James Satterthwaite: that Clay Poole: a plus James Satterthwaite: first Clay Poole: button? James Satterthwaite: and then you go one three yeah. Clay Poole: Oh okay. I've never heard of that kind before. James Satterthwaite: Well we just thought, we have all the numbers here, so we wanted something representative of numbers larger than ten and Nicholas Dews: Yeah Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: because if you on your average um remote, if you press one twice you just go to or uh say you wanted channel twelve, you Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: one, and go to one then two you'd go to, instead of Jess Ellingham: Oh, Nicholas Dews: twelve Jess Ellingham: there's no e okay. Nicholas Dews: So if you did James Satterthwaite: So Clay Poole: Oh. Nicholas Dews: like James Satterthwaite: the plus Nicholas Dews: one plus James Satterthwaite: and Nicholas Dews: two James Satterthwaite: then yeah. Nicholas Dews: you could go to channel Clay Poole: I Jess Ellingham: Okay. Nicholas Dews: twelve, or two plus Clay Poole: But Nicholas Dews: two is channel twenty Clay Poole: Would Nicholas Dews: two. Clay Poole: you have to go zero plus one if you wanted to go to channel one or two? James Satterthwaite: No no, th all that's why we have all these numbers. These numbers um these numbers all work independently up to nine. Clay Poole: Yeah but I mean if you press, it'll go to that channel right away. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: 'Cause you gotta press the plus afterwards. James Satterthwaite: Oh no. Uh, the plus is only for if you're going past the number nine. Clay Poole: Yeah I know, but if if I wanna go to say number Jess Ellingham: Sixty. Clay Poole: like sixty five, channel sixty five, if James Satterthwaite: You Clay Poole: I press James Satterthwaite: p Clay Poole: the six it'll go to channel six, and then I'll James Satterthwaite: Oh. Clay Poole: press the plus, and then it'll go to six and then put the five and it'll go to James Satterthwaite: No Clay Poole: sixty James Satterthwaite: you press Clay Poole: five? James Satterthwaite: the plus first. I Nicholas Dews: Oh. James Satterthwaite: I well it doesn't we haven't really s I would've thought you pressed the plus first and then the six five, but she says plus press Nicholas Dews: Well I don't James Satterthwaite: which Nicholas Dews: mind, we James Satterthwaite: what Nicholas Dews: can James Satterthwaite: do you Nicholas Dews: further James Satterthwaite: think Nicholas Dews: define James Satterthwaite: is Nicholas Dews: that. Clay Poole: I James Satterthwaite: simpler? Clay Poole: th James Satterthwaite: It's Clay Poole: Um James Satterthwaite: a Nicholas Dews: I wouldn't have thought it'd be a problem that it went to channel six first, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: in like on the way to channel sixty five. Clay Poole: Yeah it wouldn't be a problem. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: But Nicholas Dews: But I suppose Clay Poole: I was just Nicholas Dews: it's Clay Poole: wondering Nicholas Dews: not as Clay Poole: like as Jess Ellingham: Well Nicholas Dews: snappy. Jess Ellingham: the Clay Poole: long as we realise Jess Ellingham: there is Clay Poole: that's Jess Ellingham: a Clay Poole: what it'll do. Jess Ellingham: there's a James Satterthwaite: Oops. Jess Ellingham: delay on remotes I think. Where you James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: can have it Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: it's like a five second input Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: time. Nicholas Dews: If Jess Ellingham: So Nicholas Dews: you don't Jess Ellingham: as long Nicholas Dews: put Jess Ellingham: as you Nicholas Dews: it Jess Ellingham: hit them dada Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah, that yeah. Jess Ellingham: it should be fine. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: As long as there's not a big pause between the t hitting the two buttons. Nicholas Dews: Mm-hmm. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. So Nicholas Dews: Um Jess Ellingham: Was there so on the top there is volume and Nicholas Dews: And channel, James Satterthwaite: A channel. Nicholas Dews: which Jess Ellingham: Channel Nicholas Dews: is so Jess Ellingham: up volume up. Okay cool. Nicholas Dews: you could just Clay Poole: C_ James Satterthwaite: Just Clay Poole: and James Satterthwaite: so Clay Poole: V_. Nicholas Dews: go James Satterthwaite: we Nicholas Dews: like James Satterthwaite: can Nicholas Dews: that James Satterthwaite: flick Nicholas Dews: without thinking about it, Clay Poole: Right, Nicholas Dews: like Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Clay Poole: where um where's the power button? James Satterthwaite: It's in the middle Nicholas Dews: It's Jess Ellingham: It's James Satterthwaite: of Jess Ellingham: the James Satterthwaite: one Jess Ellingham: R_. James Satterthwaite: of Nicholas Dews: the James Satterthwaite: the Nicholas Dews: bigger James Satterthwaite: little Nicholas Dews: R_. James Satterthwaite: R_s. Clay Poole: Oh okay. Nicholas Dews: So it's just like. James Satterthwaite: Yeah, so Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: it's Nicholas Dews: We James Satterthwaite: all Nicholas Dews: deci James Satterthwaite: accessible. Without m taking your hand off the remote. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: um we went for like a a circular design for the numbers because we thought that's kind of a more natural movement than just going like that with your thumb. Clay Poole: Oh okay. Nicholas Dews: Uh e Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: ergonomics Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: are all considered. James Satterthwaite: And Clay Poole: Ergonomic, Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: definitely ergonomic. James Satterthwaite: it might actually help with the repetitive stress injury Nicholas Dews: It could cause James Satterthwaite: as Nicholas Dews: another James Satterthwaite: well. Nicholas Dews: type of James Satterthwaite: Okay. Nicholas Dews: repetitive stress injury though. But yeah, no I mean it's a different movement so James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: yeah. Um and the feel of it, I mean, we've made this out of Play Doh, which is representing the, you know, Clay Poole: The Nicholas Dews: the Clay Poole: spon Nicholas Dews: rubber, Clay Poole: yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: and the spongy rubberness. Um 'cause it was said before in the material specification that this the this anti-R_S_I_ um material is often used in stress balls so this has got a you know a bit of give to it, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: and it just Clay Poole: Yeah. Bit of a stress Nicholas Dews: feels Clay Poole: ball feel. Nicholas Dews: feels James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: different. Would you like to feel it yourselves? Clay Poole: Yes. Nicholas Dews: How it fits Clay Poole: I Nicholas Dews: in Clay Poole: would. Nicholas Dews: the palm of your hand? Clay Poole: My goodness. There you go. Nicholas Dews: Thanks. And you? Jess Ellingham: Yes. Clay Poole: Genevieve? Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Oh it's nice. Oh I think I killed the five. I did. I killed Clay Poole: And Jess Ellingham: the Clay Poole: something Jess Ellingham: four. Clay Poole: hmm. Jess Ellingham: Oh god. Nicholas Dews: O Okay, as for the colours, we were presented with um a limited range Jess Ellingham: Oh it smells James Satterthwaite: Of Nicholas Dews: of Jess Ellingham: good. Nicholas Dews: colours for James Satterthwaite: Play Nicholas Dews: this James Satterthwaite: Doh Nicholas Dews: prototype. James Satterthwaite: yeah. Nicholas Dews: But we're thinking that, seeing as we're having it in interchangeable casing anyway, that this is not necessarily a representation of the true colours that we would necessarily use. Or the combination. Um and we're thinking to carry-on with the fruit and vegetable theme, the colour um combination just could just be named after different fruit, like Clay Poole: Oh Nicholas Dews: banana Clay Poole: right. Nicholas Dews: could be black and yellow, watermelon red and green, or vanilla might be the most popular if it just uh James Satterthwaite: 'Cause it'd Nicholas Dews: blends James Satterthwaite: be quite Nicholas Dews: in James Satterthwaite: subtle and Nicholas Dews: more settled cream Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: instead of the Clay Poole: It Nicholas Dews: others Clay Poole: looks Nicholas Dews: are Clay Poole: more Nicholas Dews: all a bit garish. Clay Poole: Think like vanilla and banana would. Nicholas Dews: Banana's more representative of our colour scheme, like the company the yellow and black. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Okay yeah. Nicholas Dews: So that for corporate identity that would probably be the most strength. I mean watermelon, you know, m probably appealing Clay Poole: Kinda Nicholas Dews: to Clay Poole: Christmas, Nicholas Dews: the Clay Poole: you know. Nicholas Dews: yeah, James Satterthwaite: Yeah, Nicholas Dews: seasonal. James Satterthwaite: yeah, yeah. Nicholas Dews: Apple green, brown, more kinda trendy, you know, khaki Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: The pomegranate's kinda girly and funky kind of, and Clay Poole: Cool. James Satterthwaite: then the vanilla's more for the more sophisticated customer who just Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: wants something that fits in with all decor. Nicholas Dews: Okay. Um yeah we thought of the components it was definitely um a focus of ergonomics and just a single ha handheld device, I mean you don't need to use both hands, one hand to hold this and type in with the other, you can just use your thumb. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Um, as we said the rubber's probably used for comfort and anti-R_S_I_ and that's about it. Clay Poole: Alright, thank you very much. Good work everyone. Jess Ellingham: Bravo Clay Poole: Alright. And so now that we've we have a prototype, uh we need to go over the finances and seeing if this prototype matches uh what our budget can handle. Nicholas Dews: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: So, I have something I'm going to Jess Ellingham: You want the Clay Poole: Oh wait a minute. Do you need to do a presentation first? Jess Ellingham: I don't know what order it goes in. Clay Poole: Yeah. I'm Jess Ellingham: I have Clay Poole: gonna Jess Ellingham: one. Clay Poole: check that out for a second. Nicholas Dews: Mm go Clay Poole: What time is it anyw Oh yeah sorry you're right. Jess Ellingham: Evaluation Clay Poole: Evaluation Jess Ellingham: cri Okay. Clay Poole: criteria is Jess Ellingham: That's Clay Poole: next Jess Ellingham: Jess Ellingham. Clay Poole: in line. Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Hello. Oh there we go. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Come on my computer. Come on. Sorry my computer's giving Jess Ellingham technical difficulties. Clay Poole: Just press Jess Ellingham: Should Clay Poole: um Jess Ellingham: I press Clay Poole: function Jess Ellingham: it again? Clay Poole: eight again. Jess Ellingham: Last time I did that it sh Okay. You're right. Clay Poole: And then again I think. One more time. Jess Ellingham: Oh. Still not there. Clay Poole: Yeah. Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay now I think for this one I could Would you guys prefer use the whiteboard or mayb maybe I'll just do it on right on the screen where you can see it. Um, we're gonna be doing an evaluation report together based on the protoptype that we've just seen. Um and looking looking back at my notes from our both our conceptual and our functional meetings, um I made a list of what our original requirements and goals were, um, back to our kick-off meeting this morning. Um, and we'll evaluate as to whether we've s done what we set out to do. Um and we're gonna do it on a one to seven scale where one is true and seven is false. So basically the lower p the lower the points the better. Okay so question number one. Does the remote whoops. Sorry. Oh I'm not gonna be able um, I'll do it on the whiteboard. I can't change it so I'm g I'm gonna ask you to push it down once. Clay Poole: Okay. Jess Ellingham: I'll write down our scores up on the Clay Poole: Ooh. Jess Ellingham: Okay so number one. Do we have a fancy look-and-feel? James Satterthwaite: Mm. Nicholas Dews: Feel I think. We've been quite successful with the Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: rubber coating and Clay Poole: The James Satterthwaite: Well Clay Poole: look is a little bit more playful. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah I guess that depends on your definition of fancy, but it's definitely different. It's not Clay Poole: Oh definitely Jess Ellingham: your traditional Clay Poole: different yeah. Jess Ellingham: yeah. Nicholas Dews: I think the colour has a lot to do with it. I mean Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: th the colours we were given for making the prototype aren't the colours that I think we would've necessarily James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: chosen. It's not the kind of ooh uh Clay Poole: Oh you were Nicholas Dews: at Clay Poole: only Nicholas Dews: all Clay Poole: given red Nicholas Dews: sleek Clay Poole: and black? Nicholas Dews: red, black and yellow, and orange. Clay Poole: Oh okay. James Satterthwaite: Yeah so not Nicholas Dews: Um James Satterthwaite: very sleek and we don't wanna go for black because most remote controls Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: are black or grey. So we want it Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: to be stand out that way, anyway. Nicholas Dews: But if Clay Poole: Okay. Nicholas Dews: you can imagine that in like a s just a maybe uh a kind of pale metallic-y James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: finish or something James Satterthwaite: A metallic-y Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. James Satterthwaite: finish we were thinking. Nicholas Dews: Well I Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: know know it's for rubber. James Satterthwaite: Polished. Nicholas Dews: I mean diff if James Satterthwaite: Okay Nicholas Dews: you can visualise this in nice colours I think it would look quite James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: fancy. Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: I kinda I like the potato look. Clay Poole: It's Jess Ellingham: It's Clay Poole: mango. Jess Ellingham: very different. Nicholas Dews: Oh James Satterthwaite: We Nicholas Dews: well, potato, James Satterthwaite: we Nicholas Dews: mango, James Satterthwaite: were Jess Ellingham: It's what? Nicholas Dews: fruit and veg. Clay Poole: It's mango. Jess Ellingham: Oh sorry the mango the mango look. James Satterthwaite: we were thinking Nicholas Dews: Potato's James Satterthwaite: about Jess Ellingham: Yeah Nicholas Dews: fine. James Satterthwaite: yeah. Jess Ellingham: it Nicholas Dews: Potato's Jess Ellingham: is, fruit Nicholas Dews: fine. Jess Ellingham: or vegetable depends on your mood. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Totally. It's Jess Ellingham: So Nicholas Dews: really Jess Ellingham: I myself Nicholas Dews: adaptable. Jess Ellingham: would say a one or a two. Clay Poole: Yeah. I would say two. Personally. James Satterthwaite: I Jess Ellingham: It's a two? James Satterthwaite: w I'd say two I think. Jess Ellingham: Okay, Nicholas Dews: For the Jess Ellingham: and p James Satterthwaite: Fanciness. Nicholas Dews: fancy Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: One being true. So Nicholas Dews: I uh two, Jess Ellingham: Two. Nicholas Dews: three. Jess Ellingham: Okay, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: actu that's pro that's gonna get confusing, like that. Okay so question number two was is it techn technologically innovative? So I know we have the kinetic energy which is very innovative. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah and the use of the rubber. Jess Ellingham: Use of the rubber, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: For the Jess Ellingham: the use Nicholas Dews: anti-R_S_I_. Jess Ellingham: of the L_E_D_. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: The L_E_D_ use isn't Jess Ellingham: Isn't Nicholas Dews: particularly innovative James Satterthwaite: Mm. Nicholas Dews: and we don't have any scroll buttons, it's all pushbuttons, there's no L_C_D_ control, so if we're thinking about the rest Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: of the market, Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: it's sort of probably halfway. In some aspects it is, Clay Poole: Yeah. I'd Nicholas Dews: like Clay Poole: say maybe Nicholas Dews: we said. Clay Poole: three. James Satterthwaite: I'll go for Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: three as well. Jess Ellingham: And I think I mean it it's tough to say because we were we didn't want it to be any more innovative than this, because then that Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: No. Jess Ellingham: would've Clay Poole: Yeah Nicholas Dews: Though Clay Poole: we Nicholas Dews: it Clay Poole: want Nicholas Dews: was Clay Poole: it Nicholas Dews: our Clay Poole: simple. Nicholas Dews: specification. Jess Ellingham: defeated the James Satterthwaite: Wouldn't Jess Ellingham: purpose. James Satterthwaite: be simple, Jess Ellingham: So James Satterthwaite: yeah. Jess Ellingham: I mean I we'll put three, but I think we actually reached our goal. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: We didn't want it any more than that. Okay question number three. Uh, will it be easy to use? Clay Poole: I think so. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: very. Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: I Jess Ellingham: S James Satterthwaite: think one Jess Ellingham: Yeah I think James Satterthwaite: for Jess Ellingham: it's James Satterthwaite: that. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: One. Jess Ellingham: you can't James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: really get confused with that. James Satterthwaite: No. Jess Ellingham: I mean, Clay Poole: Th Jess Ellingham: there'll be s we have to work out the uh number Clay Poole: The plus Jess Ellingham: the Clay Poole: number Jess Ellingham: plus Clay Poole: thing. Jess Ellingham: system. James Satterthwaite: Yeah that's Jess Ellingham: But once that's James Satterthwaite: the Jess Ellingham: figured James Satterthwaite: only Jess Ellingham: out, James Satterthwaite: thing Nicholas Dews: Yeah James Satterthwaite: yeah. Jess Ellingham: it Nicholas Dews: and Jess Ellingham: should Nicholas Dews: perhaps Jess Ellingham: be fine. Nicholas Dews: the turning on but Jess Ellingham: Number four. Is this a good-looking remote? Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: Remember that seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Nicholas Dews: Again James Satterthwaite: It's Nicholas Dews: I James Satterthwaite: definitely Nicholas Dews: think the colour comes into this. Clay Poole: Yeah colour will definitely be a factor. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: I think that the logo could be smaller. Nicholas Dews: Okay. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: And maybe not such a prominent way. James Satterthwaite: But Clay Poole: Maybe James Satterthwaite: the Clay Poole: like at the bottom, kind of. James Satterthwaite: Remember Nicholas Dews: Not James Satterthwaite: the Nicholas Dews: in James Satterthwaite: management said that it it had to be prominent. Jess Ellingham: Whoops. Clay Poole: Oh it just had to be on there I guess. Jess Ellingham: Should James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: just not touch it. Nicholas Dews: Don't worry. Jess Ellingham: This time it's the three I killed. I was just wondering if it should be like flatter. Or Nicholas Dews: I suppose I've got quite big Clay Poole: I Nicholas Dews: hands. Clay Poole: like Jess Ellingham: Well Clay Poole: the appeal of it being like a big glob in your James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: hand. James Satterthwaite: But you know what I've just thought of there now. What where's it gonna sit in your living room? Is it not gonna fall off the arm Clay Poole: Maybe James Satterthwaite: of the Clay Poole: if the bottom James Satterthwaite: sofa? Clay Poole: was just sort of flat, Jess Ellingham: Yeah the bottom Clay Poole: and then Jess Ellingham: could Clay Poole: the Jess Ellingham: be Clay Poole: rest Jess Ellingham: like Clay Poole: is Jess Ellingham: ch James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: like Jess Ellingham: chopped a bit. James Satterthwaite: But then it Clay Poole: round. James Satterthwaite: wouldn't sit as comfortably in your hand. Jess Ellingham: Oh. That's true. Clay Poole: It would still be comfortable I think. Nicholas Dews: Thing is like Clay Poole: We Jess Ellingham: Maybe, Nicholas Dews: that, Clay Poole: c Jess Ellingham: it Nicholas Dews: it's Clay Poole: we Nicholas Dews: not Jess Ellingham: could Clay Poole: could handle Nicholas Dews: going anywhere Clay Poole: it I think. Jess Ellingham: it Nicholas Dews: particularly. Jess Ellingham: could be on James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: the bottom, so you wouldn't loo like if it's flat here, so it sits up. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Like that. James Satterthwaite: Oh that would be nice. Clay Poole: Ah it'd fall over all the time though. It'd be annoying. Nicholas Dews: Uh yeah, it's less James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: I g Nicholas Dews: um, what's Jess Ellingham: If it's Nicholas Dews: th Jess Ellingham: weighted Nicholas Dews: ha. Jess Ellingham: maybe. Nicholas Dews: H it's got Jess Ellingham: Details, Nicholas Dews: higher centre Jess Ellingham: details. Nicholas Dews: of gravity Clay Poole: 'Kay we're done designing. Nicholas Dews: like that. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Clay Poole: Come on. Jess Ellingham: So, is this a good-looking remote? Would we wanna show it off James Satterthwaite: Three. Jess Ellingham: to our friends? James Satterthwaite: You would though, 'cause it's bit it's more interesting than other Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: remotes. Clay Poole: I think, it was another colour and it was like I think it'd look okay. I think maybe Jess Ellingham: Yeah? Clay Poole: a two. Jess Ellingham: I mean I gue Nicholas Dews: I Jess Ellingham: yeah, Nicholas Dews: would Jess Ellingham: it's personal Nicholas Dews: definitely Jess Ellingham: taste, Nicholas Dews: go for Jess Ellingham: but Nicholas Dews: that rather than like your average plain Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: old remote like that, but definitely in another colour, I'm not happy with those colours. Jess Ellingham: Okay, so should we say two for that? Clay Poole: Sure. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Uh, question number five. What's um will people be willing to spend twenty five Euros on this product? Remember that eighty percent of users were willing to spend more money when a remote control looked fancy. James Satterthwaite: I think we have to market it in the right way, that Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. James Satterthwaite: um Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: to say that it is simplistic. So people don't just see it and think, uh, this is so simplistic, I don't want Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: to spend twenty five Euros. We have to market Jess Ellingham: Yeah James Satterthwaite: it. Jess Ellingham: it Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: the marketing will have a lot to Nicholas Dews: And Jess Ellingham: do with it. James Satterthwaite: And the kinetic Nicholas Dews: the James Satterthwaite: energy part. Nicholas Dews: kinetic James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: energy, shaker-style-y, Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: whoo, ooh no. Jess Ellingham: Shake it and Clay Poole: Durable. Jess Ellingham: the buttons fall off. James Satterthwaite: Don't shake Nicholas Dews: But you know, those'll be firmly on. James Satterthwaite: Oh no the plus. You're Jess Ellingham: No, I guess, James Satterthwaite: use Jess Ellingham: I don't James Satterthwaite: the Jess Ellingham: know much James Satterthwaite: zero. Jess Ellingham: about the remote control industry, James Satterthwaite: Make Jess Ellingham: how much James Satterthwaite: a new Jess Ellingham: your James Satterthwaite: one. Jess Ellingham: average sells for, Clay Poole: But you're our Marketing Jess Ellingham: but Clay Poole: Expert. Jess Ellingham: I know I am, aren't James Satterthwaite: I Jess Ellingham: I? James Satterthwaite: think they're about ten po ten pound, aren't they? About ten pounds. Fifteen? Jess Ellingham: don't have to buy batteries. So in the long term this can actually James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Mm, Jess Ellingham: save you Nicholas Dews: yeah, Jess Ellingham: money. Clay Poole: Oh. Nicholas Dews: that's Jess Ellingham: So we'll market Nicholas Dews: true. Jess Ellingham: it that Clay Poole: Exactly. Jess Ellingham: way too. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Exactly. Jess Ellingham: So yeah Nicholas Dews: Good Jess Ellingham: I think Nicholas Dews: point. Jess Ellingham: with a good marketing scheme um and the personalisation options, it'll Clay Poole: Yeah. I would give it a two still Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: though. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Mm. Jess Ellingham: Okay number six. Can someone read it out? Or Nicholas Dews: Does this prototype match the operating behaviour of the average user. Clay Poole: Mm. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Um yeah. So that was mainly that Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: I think it does Clay Poole: Oh Jess Ellingham: the statistics Clay Poole: yeah. James Satterthwaite: very Nicholas Dews: Because Jess Ellingham: we James Satterthwaite: well. Jess Ellingham: said Nicholas Dews: yeah, because the most accessible buttons are the volume and the and the James Satterthwaite: The Nicholas Dews: channel-changing. James Satterthwaite: zap Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: And Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: yeah. Nicholas Dews: it's just you won't have to think about it. You don't have to look down to find them. They're clearly there, easy to use. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah Nicholas Dews: Simple. Jess Ellingham: I James Satterthwaite: Uh Jess Ellingham: guess the I think the key word there is average, 'cause there were some people that used the uh video input and sound and stuff. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: But they're not Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: you and I really. So. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay so one? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Number seven. C Heather could you push it down? Will this remote control be easy to find when lost? Remember that fifty percent of users lose their remote regularly. Now is Clay Poole: We Jess Ellingham: there Clay Poole: have Jess Ellingham: the Clay Poole: the alarm system. Jess Ellingham: is the alarm system still was it implemented? James Satterthwaite: Yeah the bu when you press Nicholas Dews: It James Satterthwaite: the alarm system, the lights Nicholas Dews: Yeah l lights on and, James Satterthwaite: behind Nicholas Dews: or flash as James Satterthwaite: the Nicholas Dews: well. But I mean James Satterthwaite: and it'll vibra Nicholas Dews: it's not obviously obvious from the outside that that's gonna happen James Satterthwaite: It'll Nicholas Dews: 'cause James Satterthwaite: be again Nicholas Dews: you can't James Satterthwaite: in the marketing. Nicholas Dews: s particularly Clay Poole: I Nicholas Dews: see Clay Poole: thought the light Nicholas Dews: an Clay Poole: from Nicholas Dews: alarm. Clay Poole: the inside was James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: gonna light up. James Satterthwaite: The light it will. Clay Poole: Or or James Satterthwaite: But Clay Poole: was Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: it Nicholas Dews: But Clay Poole: gonna Nicholas Dews: when the Clay Poole: make a Nicholas Dews: alarm's Clay Poole: noise? Nicholas Dews: not yeah. James Satterthwaite: But both Nicholas Dews: If you Clay Poole: You press the button it makes a noise right? Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: It turns into a duck Nicholas Dews: You Jess Ellingham: and starts Nicholas Dews: could Jess Ellingham: quacking. Nicholas Dews: s Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Here I am. Clay Poole: Awesome. James Satterthwaite: Oh, that would Clay Poole: Awesome. James Satterthwaite: be brilliant. I'd be tempted Nicholas Dews: Well Jess Ellingham: Um James Satterthwaite: to Nicholas Dews: the thing is, if it was had an alarm system, I mean, when it when it lights up as we I mean it could light up when the alarm went. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: But if it was hidden underneath the cushion or something, there wouldn't be any point. So you can't see the alarm, but it would light James Satterthwaite: It would Nicholas Dews: up. James Satterthwaite: have to be in the market Clay Poole: I though Jess Ellingham: Okay. Clay Poole: w it was gonna make a noise. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah but you Nicholas Dews: Alarm, James Satterthwaite: still Nicholas Dews: but James Satterthwaite: couldn't Nicholas Dews: you can't see James Satterthwaite: see it. Nicholas Dews: an alarm inside uh James Satterthwaite: It would just Nicholas Dews: the James Satterthwaite: be a little Nicholas Dews: alarm James Satterthwaite: speaker Nicholas Dews: system James Satterthwaite: on the back Nicholas Dews: itself. James Satterthwaite: or something. Clay Poole: Okay. Jess Ellingham: We oh you're just explaining why it's not on the prototype. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: But yeah, it'll be Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: there. So we Clay Poole: Oh Nicholas Dews: It Jess Ellingham: can Clay Poole: okay. Nicholas Dews: w Jess Ellingham: we could say that Nicholas Dews: yeah. Clay Poole: Whoo. Okay. Nicholas Dews: Sorry. Jess Ellingham: We can give it a one, because compared to every other remote ever m ever made, this one will be easier to find. Clay Poole: Yeah, Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Um Clay Poole: totally. Nicholas Dews: Sorry Heather. That Clay Poole: No Nicholas Dews: wasn't Clay Poole: problem, Nicholas Dews: very clear. Jess Ellingham: Question Clay Poole: mm. Jess Ellingham: number eight. Will it be easy to learn how to use this remote when brand new? Remember that thirty four percent of users usually found it difficult. So Clay Poole: Totally. Jess Ellingham: it has to be yeah, it's eas they'll pick James Satterthwaite: So Jess Ellingham: it up James Satterthwaite: the Jess Ellingham: and James Satterthwaite: plu Jess Ellingham: they'll know what to do. James Satterthwaite: the plus Jess Ellingham: The plus thing James Satterthwaite: w Jess Ellingham: needs to be James Satterthwaite: once Jess Ellingham: worked on. James Satterthwaite: that's written down on the page that'll Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: be really simple, Nicholas Dews: Yeah James Satterthwaite: won't it? Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: I think just because it's we've Jess Ellingham: Well Nicholas Dews: decided to reduce it down to the basic buttons, I think James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: that Jess Ellingham: Do Nicholas Dews: in itself makes it so Jess Ellingham: Does Nicholas Dews: much Jess Ellingham: it make Nicholas Dews: easier Jess Ellingham: more sense Nicholas Dews: to use. Jess Ellingham: for the middle one to be an just an enter button? So then you would have to push two buttons every time at least. Clay Poole: Yeah, so it's just like channel six, James Satterthwaite: That Clay Poole: six, James Satterthwaite: kind of annoys Clay Poole: enter. James Satterthwaite: Jess Ellingham though, when Nicholas Dews: Mm. James Satterthwaite: it's zero six when you have to press I don't Clay Poole: Yeah James Satterthwaite: know Clay Poole: but James Satterthwaite: why. Clay Poole: you don't have to press zeros. Jess Ellingham: You could just press six enter, James Satterthwaite: Oh okay. Nicholas Dews: And Jess Ellingham: or Clay Poole: And then Nicholas Dews: or Clay Poole: like Jess Ellingham: one James Satterthwaite: Right. Nicholas Dews: sixty Clay Poole: twelve, Jess Ellingham: two enter. Nicholas Dews: six Clay Poole: enter. Nicholas Dews: enter, James Satterthwaite: Alright, Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: aye. Nicholas Dews: y Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah I think that's probably more straightforward. Yeah. Good James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Um, okay so we can James Satterthwaite: I'd Jess Ellingham: we'll say James Satterthwaite: say Jess Ellingham: yes it's James Satterthwaite: w yeah one. Jess Ellingham: uh one? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Nicholas Dews: Ooh. Mm. Jess Ellingham: Question number nine. Nicholas Dews: Oh. Jess Ellingham: Uh, will it minimise the effects of R_S_I_, which was repeated strain injury? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Injury. Jess Ellingham: Um, which affected over a quarter of users. S James Satterthwaite: Hmm. Clay Poole: I think so. It's like right in the James Satterthwaite: But if you're zapping Clay Poole: Your thumb might get a little Nicholas Dews: Yeah, Clay Poole: bit James Satterthwaite: yeah. Nicholas Dews: that's Clay Poole: uh Nicholas Dews: what I was thinking. James Satterthwaite: I don't think it will f Nicholas Dews: We may have to do some more research into James Satterthwaite: Yeah, Nicholas Dews: other strain Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: injuries that we don't know about. Clay Poole: But it is soft. Nicholas Dews: Mm-hmm. Jess Ellingham: It's soft, Clay Poole: And Jess Ellingham: and Clay Poole: that's James Satterthwaite: Mm. Clay Poole: kind of what the um Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: And people Clay Poole: the PowerPoint Jess Ellingham: could Clay Poole: slide thing said would be good for Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: R_S_I_, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: so Jess Ellingham: I Clay Poole: maybe Jess Ellingham: don't know Clay Poole: it Jess Ellingham: what Clay Poole: is Jess Ellingham: other options Clay Poole: but Nicholas Dews: I think we're getting Jess Ellingham: there are. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: that's true. Jess Ellingham: Could I mean, you could hold it in your left hand and d use your index finger. But Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: there's not really any other options unless it's like a keyboard. So, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: I think we did as as much as you can with a remote control. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: So, one or two do you think? James Satterthwaite: I Nicholas Dews: I think James Satterthwaite: I'd say t Nicholas Dews: yeah, I think James Satterthwaite: two. Nicholas Dews: too. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Two okay. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay number ten. Did we somehow incorporate the company colour and logo? Clay Poole: Yes we did. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Now is the colour gonna be there even if it's like vanilla? Is the yellow James Satterthwaite: N We we can't really do that because for example on the banana theme we can't have it as being yellow. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. James Satterthwaite: It won't stand out. So n it's not always gonna be the same colour. Jess Ellingham: It sounds like the colour's something that we Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Gray, yeah. Clay Poole: So it could be grey on the banana one. James Satterthwaite: Yeah, could be grey. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: But I mean the yell yeah d yellow's ugly though, depending on James Satterthwaite: Yeah Jess Ellingham: the James Satterthwaite: that's right, we didn't Jess Ellingham: So James Satterthwaite: even Jess Ellingham: I think we'll James Satterthwaite: rea Jess Ellingham: have to talk to our executive managers, and Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: see if we can get away with just the R_R_. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: I think this is the the factor that we've been least successful in Jess Ellingham: Okay. James Satterthwaite: Perhaps Nicholas Dews: confronting. James Satterthwaite: a metallic Clay Poole: Mm, yeah. James Satterthwaite: or or like that's grey, and it wouldn't be that expensive to have a little bit of metal. No? Jess Ellingham: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: That Jess Ellingham: And James Satterthwaite: isn't Jess Ellingham: the buttons James Satterthwaite: rubber. Jess Ellingham: in the middle. Okay. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: So, do you think that's more of a three then? Three, four? Nicholas Dews: Four I think. Jess Ellingham: Four? Nicholas Dews: Well I don't what do what Jess Ellingham: Well we have good Clay Poole: Hum. Jess Ellingham: reasons for it, so we but we can still put a a four? Nicholas Dews: Okay. James Satterthwaite: Okay. Jess Ellingham: Okay, and final question. Um, did we stay true to our motto and put the fashion into electronics? Current trends of fruits and veggies, desire for sponginess. Clay Poole: I would say so. James Satterthwaite: Following that briefing we Clay Poole: But maybe James Satterthwaite: did. Clay Poole: more like two 'cause there's no like pictures of fruit, it's just sort of naming it by a fruit. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Clay Poole: With Nicholas Dews: Like Clay Poole: the Nicholas Dews: um Clay Poole: with the Nicholas Dews: the colour Clay Poole: colours. Nicholas Dews: scheme names and James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: stuff. Jess Ellingham: No, uh, are the plates interchangeable? I think I missed James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: a few Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: they are? So you can have banana and kiwi and James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: okay. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Okay, so that's something that's kind of in the making too, like maybe it'll become more Clay Poole: That's fashionable in itself to have interchangeable plates. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: It is. James Satterthwaite: I think w yeah, I think one. Well that was our brief and we followed the brief. Well we haven't Nicholas Dews: The thing James Satterthwaite: got a big Nicholas Dews: is, I James Satterthwaite: banana Nicholas Dews: think if somebody James Satterthwaite: but Nicholas Dews: saw that and you said what was that James Satterthwaite: Oh Nicholas Dews: inspired James Satterthwaite: yeah. Nicholas Dews: from, I Clay Poole: Be Nicholas Dews: don't Clay Poole: like Nicholas Dews: know if you'd instantly James Satterthwaite: No. Nicholas Dews: say mango. Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: No. Clay Poole: Maybe if it was scented. Nicholas Dews: Oh James Satterthwaite: Oh Nicholas Dews: yeah. James Satterthwaite: that would be class. Nicholas Dews: There we go. That would be great. Clay Poole: Yeah we have money for that. Um Nicholas Dews: Um Clay Poole: Alright so based on this evaluation, do we average them out sorta thing? Jess Ellingham: Yes we do. So I wh what was I gonna put for that? A two Clay Poole: Oh. Jess Ellingham: for fashion? Clay Poole: I would say two. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Two. Nicholas Dews: Okay. Jess Ellingham: Okay, so our average there, five, six, eight, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fifteen, nineteen, twenty one, divided by eleven James Satterthwaite: It's Jess Ellingham: is Clay Poole: One point Nicholas Dews: It's Clay Poole: nine or something? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: I don't know these things. Nicholas Dews: Between Clay Poole: Um, Nicholas Dews: one and two. Clay Poole: between one and two. Jess Ellingham: Between okay. Nicholas Dews: So that's James Satterthwaite: Close Nicholas Dews: pretty Jess Ellingham: Um. James Satterthwaite: to two. Nicholas Dews: fantastic. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Yeah, that's very good 'cause the highest we coulda got is one. James Satterthwaite: I got Clay Poole: Alright. Jess Ellingham: Does that seem right then? James Satterthwaite: Yeah, 'cause we've a four to bring down. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Nicholas Dews: Mm. It James Satterthwaite: Uh, Nicholas Dews: seems James Satterthwaite: aye. Nicholas Dews: like it should be more around two. Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Uh, should've added five. Nicholas Dews: Do we have an online calculator? Clay Poole: I'm attempting to do that right Nicholas Dews: Okay. Clay Poole: now. James Satterthwaite: This Clay Poole: Yeah James Satterthwaite: is. Clay Poole: it is one point nine. Ooh. James Satterthwaite: Yay. Nicholas Dews: Oh wow. Well done. Clay Poole: Go Nicholas Dews: Well Clay Poole: Heather Nicholas Dews: that's Clay Poole: Pauls. Nicholas Dews: excellent. Clay Poole: Yeah. Alright, now with that over and done with, our next step is to see if we are under budget. And um my computer's frozen. And now it's not. Okay. So um in our shared folder, if everyone could go there right now, um Jess Ellingham: Sorry. Clay Poole: I'm going to um Jess Ellingham: Are you gonna do Clay Poole: steal Jess Ellingham: that? Clay Poole: a cable. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Clay Poole: Um James Satterthwaite: Is that the project document? Clay Poole: it's it's um it's an Excel file. Oh. Nicholas Dews: Production costs. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. 'Kay there we go. Um, production costs. And um I have to access that as well. Nicholas Dews: It Clay Poole: One Nicholas Dews: says Clay Poole: moment. Nicholas Dews: it Clay Poole: 'Kay so far I've added what I think or what is going on? Great. It's blinking at Jess Ellingham. It's locked for editing. Read only. I'm gonna open up a second one then 'cause it's locked for editing. I have the original in my um my email account. Jess Ellingham: Oh is it locked 'cause I'm in it? Clay Poole: I Nicholas Dews: I Clay Poole: dunno. Nicholas Dews: think it Jess Ellingham: Or Nicholas Dews: just means that we Jess Ellingham: okay. Nicholas Dews: can't add any more to it now. Have you have you completed it? Clay Poole: No. Nicholas Dews: Oh right. Clay Poole: No, Nicholas Dews: Okay. Clay Poole: I was hoping that you guys could. Nicholas Dews: Okay. Clay Poole: Um, there we go. Okay here we go. So we need to tally up how much our w our product will be costing. So um if you can look up at the screen, um Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: the large screen, oh I guess looking at your own too and telling Jess Ellingham which one you think. Okay we're using kinetic which is quite a large expense at three Euros. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: Oh Clay Poole: Um we're James Satterthwaite: right. Clay Poole: using a regular chip. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Um, Nicholas Dews: Double Clay Poole: it's cur it's double curved, Nicholas Dews: double-curved Clay Poole: so its curved Nicholas Dews: yeah. Clay Poole: all around. That's another three. We're already at five. Um, we're using plastic and rubber, Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: so Good thing plastic is free, we're at eight. Um James Satterthwaite: What about Clay Poole: S James Satterthwaite: a special colour? Are Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: we using that? Clay Poole: I guess we should do it just for one kind. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: So it's like special colour well we'll have two colours right? Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Well one colour for the case, one colour for the buttons. Nicholas Dews: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: So we can James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Um, we have push button interface, so that's inexpensive. And um we have a special colour for the button, and we also have a special form. And James Satterthwaite: And a special material. Yeah. Clay Poole: a special material. Nicholas Dews: Oof. Clay Poole: Which puts us just barely under budget. Hurray. Nicholas Dews: Congratulations Jess Ellingham: Mm. 'S good. Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: guys. Clay Poole: Good work guys. So um James Satterthwaite: That's good. Clay Poole: our operating cost is twelve twenty Euros. Awesome. Clay Poole: And back to our PowerPoint. So we've 'Kay. Yes we are. So we need to do a product evaluation, again, which is probably um I dunno. A different extension of a Nicholas Dews: Of the actual project rather than the product? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Hmm. Nicholas Dews: A project? Is is yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah 'cause we're talking Nicholas Dews: So Clay Poole: about Nicholas Dews: wh Clay Poole: leadership, Nicholas Dews: how Clay Poole: teamwork. Nicholas Dews: we actually went round uh about doing it. Clay Poole: Yeah. Alright so um Do you guys feel like there was room for creativity? Nicholas Dews: I think we were pushed. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: Pushed for creativity? Nicholas Dews: I mean we weren't really James Satterthwaite: The ma Nicholas Dews: given a lot of time, or James Satterthwaite: Or Nicholas Dews: materials, James Satterthwaite: materials. Nicholas Dews: yeah, to go about our design task. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: So I think we could've done with a bit more time. Clay Poole: Ye Okay. So it'd be like need more time and materials. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: But you were allowed m creativity? Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: I think so as like but you were supposed to Jess Ellingham: Yeah Clay Poole: have Jess Ellingham: and Clay Poole: creativ Jess Ellingham: the conceptual and functional. Like we were very creative in in coming up with an idea I guess, James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: but Nicholas Dews: Well Jess Ellingham: m Nicholas Dews: we were just limited by resources really Jess Ellingham: When we can down Nicholas Dews: and Jess Ellingham: to James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: like Jess Ellingham: it. Okay. Clay Poole: Right. Nicholas Dews: if we had decided to use the L_C_D_ screen, and like solar power backup and everything, then we wouldn't have been able to afford that. So that did limit James Satterthwaite: Creativity. Nicholas Dews: creativity. Clay Poole: Right Nicholas Dews: Just Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: resources. Clay Poole: Okay Nicholas Dews: But yeah. The fruit and veg idea. Clay Poole: Great. Leadership? Is this Jess Ellingham being Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Clay Poole: like, guys do you like Jess Ellingham? Um. Jess Ellingham: Good leadership, I think we stayed on James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: task. Nicholas Dews: Yeah Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: we did. We've, uh seeing as we've come out with what we intended. A pro um a product within the budget. I think Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: that's a sign of good leadership and also our personal coach helped us along the way, so Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: you know Jess Ellingham: And Nicholas Dews: I Jess Ellingham: the Nicholas Dews: think Jess Ellingham: timing Nicholas Dews: it's been Jess Ellingham: was Nicholas Dews: fine. Jess Ellingham: good. We never were pushed for time, or sat around doing nothing, so James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Good timing. Clay Poole: Oop Okay. Nicholas Dews: And Clay Poole: Teamwork? Nicholas Dews: project manager Clay Poole: I think we worked Nicholas Dews: of course. Clay Poole: great as a team. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Was good teamwork. I think we are well-suited to our roles. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: Alright how were our means? Nicholas Dews: Um Clay Poole: We needed more Play Doh colours. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Yeah and more Play Doh, 'cause that was all the red Clay Poole: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: we had. So even James Satterthwaite: Yeah, it Nicholas Dews: if we James Satterthwaite: c Nicholas Dews: wanted James Satterthwaite: it might've Nicholas Dews: to make James Satterthwaite: been Nicholas Dews: a James Satterthwaite: bigger. Nicholas Dews: bigger prototype, Jess Ellingham: Oh really? Nicholas Dews: we wouldn't have been able to. Jess Ellingham: Okay. Clay Poole: But ever everything else was satisfactory? Is that Jess Ellingham: Yeah. The Clay Poole: good James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: computer programmes are good. The Nicholas Dews: Yeah. It could be really straightforward for the computer. Jess Ellingham: Yeah. I don't Nicholas Dews: I think Jess Ellingham: think there Nicholas Dews: the Jess Ellingham: was Nicholas Dews: only Jess Ellingham: anything Nicholas Dews: thing was having to remember to you know to tick the okays Jess Ellingham: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: but I think I was the only one who struggled with that. James Satterthwaite: I'm actually not sure if I've saved my presentations. Clay Poole: Yeah? Nicholas Dews: Mm. Jess Ellingham: They'll probably Nicholas Dews: Uh Jess Ellingham: still Nicholas Dews: Jess Ellingham too. Jess Ellingham: be there. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Clay Poole: New ideas found. I don't really know what that means. Jess Ellingham: Um Nicholas Dews: Well I think we've all learnt stuff from each other, like the n James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: um James Satterthwaite: Through discussion. Nicholas Dews: yeah. Just about each different. Got new ideas from each other. Jess Ellingham: I'm not sure, new ideas found. Clay Poole: Hmm? Jess Ellingham: Yeah well I guess we really it we bounced off of each other, which was cool. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Clay Poole: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Like based on marketing stuff and then you'd say something about interface and Nicholas Dews: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: yeah, Clay Poole: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: And we were Jess Ellingham: worked James Satterthwaite: a able Jess Ellingham: well. James Satterthwaite: to modify each other's ideas Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Nicholas Dews: Yeah. James Satterthwaite: to fit in with our areas of expertise. Clay Poole: Yeah. Each Jess Ellingham: Oh does it have smart materials Clay Poole: other's Jess Ellingham: by the way? Nicholas Dews: Sorry? Jess Ellingham: Does it have smart materials? Clay Poole: Mm. Nicholas Dews: Oh yeah. Jess Ellingham: Oh yeah. Nicholas Dews: Well mm, did it come into James Satterthwaite: If Nicholas Dews: the James Satterthwaite: if Nicholas Dews: into James Satterthwaite: it if it Nicholas Dews: I dunno if we counted that in the costs. James Satterthwaite: If it can be afforded. Clay Poole: Okay? Well with that achieved, our last slide is our closing slide. Yes our costs are within budget. Nicholas Dews: Yes. Clay Poole: It's Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: evaluated generally positively. James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Jess Ellingham: Mm-hmm. Clay Poole: And um don't forget to complete final questionnaire and meeting summary. Then Nicholas Dews: Uh. Clay Poole: we celebrate James Satterthwaite: Yay. Nicholas Dews: Fantastic. Clay Poole: in such a way that Jess Ellingham: By Clay Poole: I Jess Ellingham: watching Clay Poole: have no Jess Ellingham: T_V_? Clay Poole: idea. Nicholas Dews: Okay, brilliant. Clay Poole: Alright? James Satterthwaite: Yeah. Nicholas Dews: Thank you very much. Clay Poole: Okay, bye. Jess Ellingham: Mm. Conclusion? Dadada.

Clay Poole opens the meeting by stating the agenda. The designers give the prototype presentation, showing their simple design that is based on a mango. They point out the company logo and LED, and demonstrate how the device is palm-held and thumb-acessible. They also discuss the numerical, volume, channel, and power buttons as well as the color scheme. Jess Ellingham administers the product evaluation, and they rate each of the ten criteria on a scale of 1-7. The criteria includes fancy look-and-feel, technological innovation, ease of use, look, whether people would be willing to spend 25 Euros for it, whether its operating behavior matches the average user, ease of finding when lost, ease of learning to use, whether it will minimize RSI, incorporation of company colors and logo, and whether it follows the motto. They average the scores and get 1.9. They check the product costing and find that their operating cost is 12.20 Euros. In evaluating the project process they are pleased with their creativity, leadership, timing, teamwork, discussions, and overall product given the resources they had. They close the meeting by thanking one another.

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Andrew Hamilton: Oh. Billy Johnson: Du Andrew Hamilton: Okay. Thanks James Shaw: Hm. Andrew Hamilton: for coming to this meeting. S how we doing on our remote? We have some we have some ideas and some uh ideas for what people want. Billy Johnson: Uh we yes s I've lo I've the role that I was asked to anyway. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. Billy Johnson: I think. Andrew Hamilton: Alright let's just go over the agenda real quick for this meeting. See if I can't get things uh moving along here a little bit better. Um I'll go over what we went over last time, which shouldn't take long. Then I believe each of you have a presentation. Um I've was sent a a couple more requirements for our remote, what they want. Um then we can come to a conclusion on uh what we want the remote to do, um and how it's going to do it hopefully. And uh then we'll have the closing. Um which we'll have forty minutes for. Uh let's see, the last meeting we went over um who was responsible for what. I'm responsible for leading the meetings, keeping the notes, uh and coming up with the final presentation. Um Corinne is our Marketing Expert. She's gonna figure out what what um the consumer wants. Um Ryan is our User Interface Designer. And Manuel is Patrick Nunes. So you're gonna come up with the ideas Ryan, and you're gonna pick 'em apart. Um we decided our remote, uh we want it to be a universal remote uh that everyone would want. Um we want to be modern, um fun, different. Uh it needs to be sturdy, um easy to find, so we gonna have that locator function. Um and we want to be different. Um and then we went over a couple of different ideas. Ball-shaped phone. The keyboard shape. Um we decided that it should probably be one-handed. Something we could use with one hand. Um and that was our last meeting. So um why don't um Do each of you have a presentation? James Shaw: Yep. Andrew Hamilton: Okay. I'll hand it off to you and um Does anyone do you wanna go first? James Shaw: Sure. Andrew Hamilton: So we can maybe see what uh what the people want. James Shaw: What was? Function Patrick Nunes: Eight. James Shaw: F_ Patrick Nunes: F_ eight. James Shaw: eight? James Shaw: Well. How do I get it Billy Johnson: Slide show. Andrew Hamilton: To go to the James Shaw: Oh Andrew Hamilton: next James Shaw: right Andrew Hamilton: one? James Shaw: right right. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah you click on that James Shaw: That Andrew Hamilton: guy. James Shaw: one? Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. James Shaw: Okay. Alright. Well, this is my report, which is going to be based pretty much on a survey that I was sent. Oh gosh, I've no idea. G Billy Johnson: Just press the arrow keys I think. Usually James Shaw: Okay. Billy Johnson: goes to it. James Shaw: Sorry I actually need to see something else on my screen. Andrew Hamilton: Hit F_ eight again. James Shaw: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: I think. James Shaw: And then? Again? Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. You want it to be on both screens, or James Shaw: No Andrew Hamilton: just James Shaw: I want Andrew Hamilton: just James Shaw: something Andrew Hamilton: yours? James Shaw: else on mine. Is that possible? Andrew Hamilton: Yeah but I think you have to hit escape. And then you can Yeah. James Shaw: Okay but now you don't have that. Andrew Hamilton: Oh hit F_ eight again. James Shaw: Sorry guys. Andrew Hamilton: I know. I did the same thing. And then it should come up here shortly. 'Kay. James Shaw: So is there no way I can give you the slideshow Andrew Hamilton: I think James Shaw: and Andrew Hamilton: oh give us the slideshow and James Shaw: yeah. Andrew Hamilton: something on your screen? James Shaw: Yeah. Oh Andrew Hamilton: Mm. James Shaw: well. Andrew Hamilton: I'm not sure. You could maybe minimise that screen and then James Shaw: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: have them both up at the same James Shaw: It's Andrew Hamilton: time James Shaw: okay. Andrew Hamilton: I think. James Shaw: Okay. Um so first of all, the method that I used was by doing some marketing research, by um doing research on some interviews that were conducted. And then some internet research. And I was sent a report that was I think there were a hundred remote users that they interviewed. And so I will show you some of the results from that, which I think will be helpful. Um okay here are some of the findings. They said that the users dislike the look and feel of their current remote controls. And seventy five percent of the users find their remote controls to be ugly. Which is a fairly significant number I would say. And eighty percent of the users would be willing to spend more money if they could get a remote that would look fancy. So I think that earlier we were onto something when we were talking about having it be a modern cool look, I think that's definitely important. Um they say that current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. Seventy five percent of users said they zap a lot. And if anyone could clarify what that means? Zap, Billy Johnson: Is James Shaw: does Billy Johnson: is it James Shaw: that Billy Johnson: j James Shaw: just mean Patrick Nunes: Just James Shaw: like changing Billy Johnson: just James Shaw: the Billy Johnson: just James Shaw: channel? Billy Johnson: just using Patrick Nunes: jus Billy Johnson: it yeah. James Shaw: Okay. Patrick Nunes: yeah. James Shaw: Um and fifty percent of the users say that they're only using ten percent of the buttons on their remote control. And there was something else, they kept track of the frequency per hour in using certain buttons. And some of them it looks like barely need to be included at all. Of course channel selection is used the most frequently. And then teletext was the next. Volume and then power. And then audio settings and screen settings and channel settings were practically never used. So I think we could definitely eliminate or somehow combine a lot of the functions into one button. Um the biggest user frustrations, as we said fifty percent of people find that their remotes are lost somewhere, and so I think a tracking device of some sort would be a good idea. They said it take thirty four percent said it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote. And twenty six percent said that the controls are bad for R_S_I_. Billy Johnson: A repetitive strain injury. James Shaw: What is it? Billy Johnson: Just repetitive strain injury. I think. James Shaw: Okay. Billy Johnson: That's what I guess. James Shaw: Okay. And so bas okay. Um as far as speech recognition goes, um the younger group looks like they're all for it. From the fifteen to twenty five age group over ninety percent said they would pay more. And it kind of just went down incrementally. The groups at the older they get it looks like the less willing they are to pay, so maybe we could discuss this and think and decide if we think it's worth investing in this. At least if we're targeting the younger groups. And so in conclusion. Some things that I drew from this are that I think we were correct. We definitely need to focus on a new modern appearance, since so many people seem to be concerned about the ugliness of their remote control. Um a multifunctional remote could be a good thing to explore. So you only have one rather than five different remotes sitting all over your room. Uh we need to simplify the remote and reduce the number of buttons, get rid of the ones that don't seem to be serving much purpose. And then lastly I thought that maybe we could discuss the idea of speech recognition. And that's it. Andrew Hamilton: 'Kay. Very nice. Now we actually have some ideas of what what people want, what we should focus on. Uh Andrew Hamilton: Wait can I look at that real quick? James Shaw: Oh yeah. Sorry did you guys get time to write everything Billy Johnson: Yeah. James Shaw: that you needed? 'Kay. Billy Johnson: Having just listened to what Corinne just said, I'll draw on some of the things well. Some things that sort of what I wanna say. 'Kay so I'm just gonna yeah approach the technical functions design. Um the method I used was to explore the uh technical functions of a remote control. And t s simplest approach that I came to is is to change, programme and operate an electronic device remotely. I mean that's an obvious thing to say, but it's not attached to the device that you want to control. Um I had some things sent to James Shaw. Not very much. To look at similar devices. Um defined in some them. And then the personal preferences that I will suggest. Um we discussed a universal one. Um like it's just been brought up again then. But I think a universal remote control is actually quite a difficult object to design, and po possibly within maybe the budget that we do it, um because you'd need to know all the spef specifications of a all the like electronic companies. I'm not sure have you ever come across a universal remote control yourself, but you have to i they're a nightmare to use. You have to set them, reset them to everything. Um and that would only add buttons. Whereas I think the aim is to take away buttons. So I think it'd be better maybe to concentrate on maybe just a universal one for T_V_s. Um or maybe just one that you could we could design and then different people, manufacturers could use it to set to their specifications, if if the aim is to get something that's unique in design. Um Okay here here's just two pictures of remote controls. They're just simple T_V_ remote controls. But one is uh user-centred. That is the one on the left. And you can straight away see there's less buttons. And the other one is engineer-centred where that's more uh specified for the sort of the elaborate piece of equipment it's trying to control um which appeals more to the product that we want, and on what the have said and the market research and stuff probably looking at something that should be user-centred. Fewer buttons, simpler to use, and if ten percent um is hidden away if ten percent is what's used, maybe the other fifty percent, the buttons that are used very rarely like programming, they could be hidden maybe under some remote controls you might have come across have maybe a little flip thi thing where they're hidden away. And the main buttons are the ones you or the ones you come across. Um and finally, um uh sort I've sort of covered that, our product I think should be user interface orientated. Um Like I said to concentrate on T_V_ remote control, a universal remote might be too complex. Um and as what it, the major findings market researchers have said, it's the image and the appearance that people di dislike. So that we should concentrate on something that would set a trend. And then and change the fashion of remote controls. And that's it. Patrick Nunes: cable there. Thank you. Andrew Hamilton: What was your last conclusion on that one? Focus on uh Billy Johnson: On Andrew Hamilton: the i Billy Johnson: something on the image of it. Andrew Hamilton: the image Billy Johnson: Uh Andrew Hamilton: of it. Billy Johnson: the f the actual design. Andrew Hamilton: 'Kay. Good. Good. Patrick Nunes: Okay. Gonna talk to you about the working design of the interiors basically which is what dictates the design the both the interface basically and the outer appearance because this is all the stuff that needs to go in there. Right. So unfortunately the people who were supposed to do this little presentation for James Shaw obviously were too drunk to actually accomplish it, so um I'm going to do a the stuff on the board. Um just This is the basic basic premise of a remote control. Um the basic function is to send messages to another system. Okay so much is clear. An energy source feeds an integrated circuit, like a chip, that can compose messages. Often in the form of infrared bits. This is the most mostly used. Um there's uh also some sound systems but infrared is the better or the more more used system. Um parts are cheaper as well. A user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages. This is where my people screwed up basically. So I'm going to explain that on the board rather. Um what we have is different components that obviously need to go in there. We'll start with an energy source. Right. Um which is usually a battery right? Since it's not feasible to add a cable to that. This energy source of course is connected to the the user interface itself. Uh which can be buttons, whatever, which in fact controls a chip. Right? This is the user interface and there we have the chip. Um the way this goes normally is that this chip then controls an infrared lamp. That sends out the signal. Of course the signal differs accordingly. Um depending on what the chip tells the infrared lan lamp. And Of course that's controlled, the chip itself is controlled by the user interface. The way you normally normally do it is that you add a little device such as a lamp to the whole thing as well, so that you know that it's working basically. You press something, you get a response. Which is also comparatively um important on one of those devices. Now this, what we're talking about here, or what I think should be discussed are these two components mostly. The the uh energy source for one thing can be altered. What we probably cannot alter is of course the infrared, the sending device basically, the infrared lamp. We cannot change the chip which controls the infrared lamp. Right? These two are components that we have to use, and these are dictated by the whole function of the whole thing. Um the lamp can be put onto the desi the device. It c it doesn't have to be there. This can be discussed as well. The user interface. That's something we can also discuss. Um as we've heard uh speech recognition is the hype obviously in the moment. Speech recognition um interface, we don't know that. Or if we just do the usual button thing. Or we have a touch pad or something like that that's something we can discuss. And of course the energy source. Batteries. Solar cells. Who knows? Of course it's always a question whether these these components are in fact available cheap enough, developed enough. But that's like I s I suppose rather up to marketing, and not to Andrew Hamilton: So we could Patrick Nunes: to the industrial design Andrew Hamilton: the the Patrick Nunes: department. Andrew Hamilton: the more complex we make it of course, the more Patrick Nunes: Expensive Andrew Hamilton: expensive Patrick Nunes: it's gonna be get uh. Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: But people have said that they would well younger generations of people have said that they would pay more for a speech recognition James Shaw: Mm-hmm. Andrew Hamilton: remote. So Patrick Nunes: Right. Andrew Hamilton: possibly it might be worth the investment. Billy Johnson: I think speech recognition was uh one of those things where um they have to be really good for them to work. 'Cause sometimes you find yourself just saying things over and o James Shaw: Yeah. Billy Johnson: if it's on your phone. Andrew Hamilton: I agree. Billy Johnson: And Andrew Hamilton: Well Billy Johnson: you need to sort of take into light languages and then different dialects I suppose as well. Andrew Hamilton: I myself I find, when you, h when there's something like spee speech recognition. Like uh you call on the phone and you try to change your telephone or power or something. Sometimes they have a a speech recognition Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: on the other end, and you say one for this, and you find yours, like you said, saying the same thing over and over and over. I find myself, especially if I'm in a crowd of people, looking really silly. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: So maybe if you're sitting on your couch with a bunch of people then Billy Johnson: And Andrew Hamilton: you Billy Johnson: wou Andrew Hamilton: know, Billy Johnson: I Andrew Hamilton: you Billy Johnson: don't know if would would you want to keep saying stuff if you were watching stuff. If you were watching something would you sort of be wanting Andrew Hamilton: Volume up. Volume Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: down. Change the channel, you know channel up, channel down? I I don't know. James Shaw: Another thing about these figures is ninety one percent of the youngest age groups said they'd do it, but probably a lot of them that's actually their parents money. Like I don't know if they would actually go out and purchase this themselves, Billy Johnson: I think James Shaw: a fifteen year old you know. Billy Johnson: As well it'd be j the gimmick factor Andrew Hamilton: Mm-hmm. James Shaw: Yeah. Billy Johnson: for the younger people. But practically I don't Andrew Hamilton: It's Billy Johnson: think it's Andrew Hamilton: a, it's a gimmick factor that they like at first, and Billy Johnson: Yeah. It'll wear off. James Shaw: Gets old yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Okay. Um Let's see here. Billy Johnson: Do you wanna put your cord back in? Andrew Hamilton: Yeah I guess so. Patrick Nunes: Oh right. Andrew Hamilton: Trade you. Patrick Nunes: go. Andrew Hamilton: Now I was sent a couple of things to modify our uh new requirements. Um the remote's only gonna be for the television, which is good because we already decided y your your research showed that uh not only is a universal remote more complicated, it's more cost, more costly. And your re uh research showed that you know most of the people don't even use it. I think James Shaw: Mm. Andrew Hamilton: uh you said fifty percent of the people only use half the or ten percent of the buttons. So if we remove the universal remote then that solves that problem. Um no teletext. Um So we don't have to worry about that. Um but we do have to use the the company wants us to incorporate the corporate colour and our slogan, which is we put the fashion in electronics. And our corporate colours are grey and yellow. And we could probably get away with black too but So those are the three um the three new requirements we need to use. Um from all all three of your uh presentations, I think that we were on the right track a lot in our last meeting. Um We want something that looks good. Um we want something that's simple. We want something that you can find easily. Um And the speech recognition I I guess is kind of uh give or take. It's gonna cost more. S Patrick Nunes: Mm-hmm. Andrew Hamilton: the young the younger people say that they like it. But um it's probably, I would say, probably not worth the investment at this point in time. So maybe we should just do away with speech recognition. Um And that way we can focus on our form. Billy Johnson: I did have have a thought about the sort of the tracking thing. Is that if it came with maybe a holder or holster, whatever you wanna call it. Um that you you should put it back in. Your remote. But if you don't put it back in, you press something like a little button on that, and that just sort of sends out a beep to find where it is or something. Just by infrared. That shouldn't be too complex I would've thought. Andrew Hamilton: That'd be, that'd be good if we were going with our our ball. Billy Johnson: Yeah it would be quite good. The ball Andrew Hamilton: Or or Billy Johnson: could sit Andrew Hamilton: with Billy Johnson: on a Andrew Hamilton: you know I guess James Shaw: Mm. Andrew Hamilton: with any form that that would be good. You know that could be the charger. For Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: you know we could use rechargeable batteries in the remote. And that would be or solar. Or you know However, however you wanted to go about it, the holder could also be the charging unit. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um With the locator button. Um and if it were the ball you'd no longer have to have a flat space on it. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um Patrick Nunes: Well you still Andrew Hamilton: like Patrick Nunes: do. Andrew Hamilton: if we still have the Patrick Nunes: You s you still Andrew Hamilton: how to hold on to it and Patrick Nunes: W yeah. You put it on t on the couch table. While you're watching, James Shaw: Rolls Patrick Nunes: it's Andrew Hamilton: It's Patrick Nunes: gonna James Shaw: away Andrew Hamilton: gonna Patrick Nunes: roll Andrew Hamilton: roll Patrick Nunes: off. Andrew Hamilton: away. James Shaw: yeah. Patrick Nunes: So that's not an issue really. Andrew Hamilton: Um So I guess after the meeting we'll have some questionnaires. And uh and some summaries for for what's going on. Um then we'll take lunch. Then we can come back and uh work on our individual work. Um I'll do the minutes. Uh let's see. It looks like you're already on your way for uh working with the components. Um chips, the what chips we need and what uh you know how to power it and whatnot. User interface concept, we want it to be something simple. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um Minimal number of buttons. I guess our, I guess our main um main thing that we should focus on until then is probably deciding on a certain look, you know. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Patrick Nunes: Right. That's Andrew Hamilton: Did you have time earlier to to work on that. Did you guys feel you have enough time in between our meetings to get James Shaw: Not Andrew Hamilton: everything James Shaw: really. Andrew Hamilton: done that you need to get done? Billy Johnson: I'll yeah I'll have a look, try look at the actual appearance in the next break. Andrew Hamilton: 'Kay. Billy Johnson: I th I I do still think it needs to be something that is ultimately one-handed. The ball James Shaw: Mm. Billy Johnson: is probably not a good idea. Andrew Hamilton: Mm-hmm. Billy Johnson: So that I think it still has to be a variation. On maybe a a rect on a rectangle but maybe not necessarily as boring, as James Shaw: Mm. Billy Johnson: plain as a rectangle. Andrew Hamilton: Um Shall we maybe shoot for a a specific uh target group? That way we could l I mean if it were, if we were shooting for young guys then it's um a certain look to the remote. Or girls or older people? Um Would that you think that would help us find um a specific form? That we would would wanna pick out? Billy Johnson: D I don't know if that might cope with like the trend-watching. James Shaw: Mm. Billy Johnson: I find anything more on that. James Shaw: Yeah not yet but maybe by the next meeting we'll have some info on that. Andrew Hamilton: 'Kay. Andrew Hamilton: So um we know that the remote's gonna have to be we'll just say we've got a colour scheme for it. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um yellow and you know yellow it's nice and bright, with the Patrick Nunes: Mm. Andrew Hamilton: buttons being grey or black. And our slogan pasted somewhere on it, on the the bottom Billy Johnson: Bottom perhaps Andrew Hamilton: or the Billy Johnson: yeah. Andrew Hamilton: you know. Um Andrew Hamilton: Maybe we could sketch a so basically all of our remotes all of our typical remotes now are just kind of a rectangular sort. You know. Um maybe we could flare it or something. You know. So it's more of course this will look like a bone then. go ahead and erase this. Um Andrew Hamilton: Hope everyone memorised that uh Billy Johnson: You I mean it might be to look at sort of the the shape and trend of like things like mobile phones, and the shapes that the they've been going. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. James Shaw: Mm. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. Billy Johnson: They've gone from big brick block things, which is a remote control is, to sort of slinky small things. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah everybody's got a mobile phone right? Except for James Shaw now. Uh But they are all, you know, mobile phones um they've kind of taken a turn to where they're really small. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um which may defeat our purpose for James Shaw: Mm. Andrew Hamilton: being able to locate our remote all the time. Patrick Nunes: Right. Andrew Hamilton: But then again you don't want you know like the first mobile phone that was this big and you had a handbag to carry it around in. Um So we've got basically what remotes look like now is kind of what we're what we're stuck with. Um Maybe we could go with a square or something. Um Patrick Nunes: Hm. Andrew Hamilton: Um you know with minimal number of buttons. I guess you've got you know one through nine. For typing in your channels. Uh you've got volume, up and down. Channel up and down. James Shaw: Power. Andrew Hamilton: Power. Usually at the top. Um a mute. Patrick Nunes: That's the classical Andrew Hamilton: That's Patrick Nunes: design. Andrew Hamilton: that's pretty much all you need I think. Um A menu button, maybe. Patrick Nunes: Right. Andrew Hamilton: So you know. If you, if we want the remote to do other things like um or I guess the T_V_ to be able to change the tint and the colour and you know all those kind of things that are built into T_V_s, we just have that under one standard menu button where you go in, press the menu button, scroll up and down to select it. James Shaw: Yeah. Patrick Nunes: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um Patrick Nunes: Talking of which maybe a scrolling function is not not too bad. Andrew Hamilton: 'Kay so Patrick Nunes: It's Talk Andrew Hamilton: Um Patrick Nunes: about maybe f look at that from the side, there maybe. Which is technically the easiest option. Would probably be like a scrolling, little scrolling wheel like this. Andrew Hamilton: Mm-hmm. Patrick Nunes: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Like a wheel Patrick Nunes: So. Andrew Hamilton: on your mouse. Patrick Nunes: Yeah, sort of like that. Andrew Hamilton: Sort of. Patrick Nunes: You can even if we're coming from mice, we can even add a click function, where you, in order to verify the information you just press it down. Right. Andrew Hamilton: 'S a good idea. Patrick Nunes: Also when it comes to the ergonomics of the whole thing, if you wanna make it square for the looks of it, then maybe to make it more comfortable to hold the whole thing, you add a little bulge down here. Just which maybe from an engineering point this could be holding the the batteries and so on. Andrew Hamilton: Mm-hmm. Patrick Nunes: I know. You know what Andrew Hamilton: Look Patrick Nunes: I'm getting Andrew Hamilton: g Patrick Nunes: at here, Andrew Hamilton: yeah. Patrick Nunes: fel James Shaw: Mm-hmm. Andrew Hamilton: Looks Patrick Nunes: look Andrew Hamilton: good. Patrick Nunes: at it from the side. It's like that. Right. Uh Then you hold it in your hand like this. And Billy Johnson: Yes Patrick Nunes: maybe you bring the buttons Billy Johnson: s Patrick Nunes: nearer to the or the imp more important buttons nearer to the Andrew Hamilton: To the Patrick Nunes: to Andrew Hamilton: thumb. Patrick Nunes: the side. Billy Johnson: To Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. Billy Johnson: the thumb Patrick Nunes: Right. Billy Johnson: yeah. Patrick Nunes: Mm. Billy Johnson: Maybe the buttons could like uh decrease in s the bigger ones you know they could actually be bigger in size than the ones that are less important, the smaller here. Patrick Nunes: Right. You can also have it, maybe, talking about mobile phones again, sliding open. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Patrick Nunes: functions Billy Johnson: Behind. Patrick Nunes: on this part, and Billy Johnson: Definitely. Patrick Nunes: then it slides into that part. And out. Billy Johnson: just like o on a sort of side view. Something that you know it would sort of fit in the hand better. So you know you just sort of have your hand Patrick Nunes: Mm well I was just thinking, this Billy Johnson: Yeah. Patrick Nunes: this of course Billy Johnson: Right on Patrick Nunes: causes Billy Johnson: the and your thumb would be up here type thing. Patrick Nunes: causes a problem um for left or right-handed people actually. Billy Johnson: Yeah that's also true. Patrick Nunes: So. Billy Johnson: instantly sort of always going for the right-handed person. Patrick Nunes: Right. Billy Johnson: But I mean the older so Andrew Hamilton: Yeah is everyone who in here's right-handed, left-handed? James Shaw: Right. Andrew Hamilton: You guys Patrick Nunes: Right. Andrew Hamilton: all right-handed? Billy Johnson: Right-handed, yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. So I'm left-handed but James Shaw: Uh-huh. Andrew Hamilton: I, so I can say that most things are designed for right-handed people. Patrick Nunes: That's right. Andrew Hamilton: Like the written language. Or English. James Shaw: Maybe you could buy like a special left-handed version of the remote. Andrew Hamilton: Maybe. Ow. James Shaw: Special order. Andrew Hamilton: I would say I mean it should be probably designed for a right-handed p person. James Shaw: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: Um but that's that's good. That's w I think we've got a kind of a good plan there. Um At least for what buttons we're gonna use. Um So we've got uh I like the scroll, the scroll action and the. Billy Johnson: I mean I'm just just thinking maybe if it was um circular um with the sort of that sort of the sort of early idea we had, with the way that was more like that, whereas this is just a one-handed thing that you sort of almost wrap round the thumb. So you'd have your, you'd put your hand into there with the thumb there. And then your thumb would do you'd have all the buttons sort of round here. And that I think could work. Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. Billy Johnson: On any hand. Andrew Hamilton: Kinda like holding a Billy Johnson: If you just had it like wrapped round there. Left or right. James Shaw: Mm. Patrick Nunes: Right. That minimises it size-wise Billy Johnson: Minimise Patrick Nunes: as well. Billy Johnson: its size. It could be you know really quite Patrick Nunes: Mm. Billy Johnson: small. Patrick Nunes: Then there's maybe another point of making it a two-in-one kind of thing. If we have a smaller a smaller device that actually fits into the big one. You give it the full functions in here, and just a couple of functions in there. Billy Johnson: Yeah. James Shaw: Hmm. Patrick Nunes: Like your zap zapping Billy Johnson: Zapping Patrick Nunes: device Billy Johnson: functions. Patrick Nunes: is just u channels up-down, uh volume, and on-off. That's it. James Shaw: Could Andrew Hamilton: Yeah. James Shaw: be good. Patrick Nunes: Maybe. Andrew Hamilton: So two remotes in one. But then would be easier to lose one or the other. Patrick Nunes: That's right. Means the big one has to be sufficiently big. And perhaps heavy, so you can't move it around. Make it a piece of furniture. James Shaw: Yeah, Andrew Hamilton: It actually is your coffee table. Patrick Nunes: yes. James Shaw: yeah. Patrick Nunes: Yes, there you go. Or a statue or something. Andrew Hamilton: Okay. Well we need to finish up here. Um So for the next So for the next um before the next meeting w uh sh shall we work on you're watching trends James Shaw: Mm-hmm. Andrew Hamilton: to see what Billy Johnson: Yep. Andrew Hamilton: what kind of new information we've got going on. Um Manuel you're going to work on the components Patrick Nunes: Right. Andrew Hamilton: for for what we're gonna use. Let's go with our our uh rounded kind of fit in your hand let's explore uh the the uh possibility of having the two-piece. So one for the Patrick Nunes: Alright. Andrew Hamilton: the quick zapping um and possibly one you know with just that rounded part Billy Johnson: Yeah. Andrew Hamilton: that fits into your hand. Um And Ryan you work on um how how well they'll work Billy Johnson: How Andrew Hamilton: with Billy Johnson: well it'll Andrew Hamilton: the us Billy Johnson: work yeah. Andrew Hamilton: with the user. So both of those concepts. And uh okay I think we made some good progress here. Patrick Nunes: Alright. Andrew Hamilton: see you in I dunno. I gu I guess we'll take lunch in about uh half an hour. Or I guess we'll be taking lunch shortly and then then in about half an hour after that we'll probably have another meeting. Billy Johnson: Yeah. Patrick Nunes: Alright. Andrew Hamilton: Okay.

Andrew Hamilton recapped the events and decisions of the previous meeting. James Shaw presented research on user preferences and tendencies with remote controls. The research indicated that users want remotes to be more attractive, to match the behavior of the user, to be easier to locate when misplaced, and not to cause RSI. The research also indicated that younger users were interested speech recognition. Billy Johnson spoke on the option to have a universal remote, presented two differently designed remotes available on the market, and described some features a user-centered remote should include. Patrick Nunes discussed the interior workings of a remote and then the team discussed the option to include speech recognition in their design. Andrew Hamilton briefed the team on some new requirements to abide by. The team then discussed the option to include a recharger with a locater button in their design, the appearance of their remote, buttons, how to make an ergonomic remote, and the option to have a two-piece remote.

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Fred Schaefer: Okay. Fred Schaefer: Right. Okay. Fred Schaefer: Alright. everyone? Gilbert Newell: Yep. Jermaine Myers: Yep. Fred Schaefer: Okay. This is our conceptual design meeting. And I'll just take a few minutes and uh go through the previous minutes. Um then each of you will have your presentation, um and then we will need to make a decision on the concept for the remote control. And then we'll have uh forty minutes for finishing up. Um I'll go through the mee through the minutes first. Um, we just refreshed our our goal making the finest remote control available. Um we decided that, or we know that we need to use company colours, company logo. Um and our Marketing Expert uh gave us some i uh information from interviews with a hundred different remote users. Um with some statistics that backed basically what we were thinking before. People thought their remotes were ugly, um um that remotes zap a lot. Um they only use uh a finite amount of buttons. Um and that they often lose the it's easy to lose a remote. Um which were all things we were thinking we would wanna make it simple. Um And uh some sort of locator. Either a button or tracking device. Um And that it should look different than what's out there. Um Kind of mixed mixed response on the speech recognition. The younger people said they wanted it, older people did not. Um uh I think we decided that um the expense was not necessarily worth it, and that it was probably a gimmick, that um would increasingly wear on the consumers' nerves. Um Then Jermaine Myers um explored some of the technical functions of the remote. Um the simple versus the um the complex. The simple one being better for a user, the complex better for an engineer. Um Um and some personal preferences that were found in that would be that it should be a user-oriented remote, something simple. Um and that we didn't wanna go with a universal remote, because uh increasing cost and increasing complexity. Um we would just have a T_V_ remote. Um and that we should also focus on the appearance of the remote. Have it s be something that looks different. And finally our um Industrial Designer uh gave us a rundown of how the remote will work. Um from energy source, um uh what we would use. Batteries because we don't wanna have a a cable. Um How that would power the remote and the lamp. If we were to to have one. Uh um the user interface then would connect to a chip, which would work with the infrared controls uh to send the signal to the T_V_. Um I believe then we came up with a couple of ideas for what we think the design of the remote will be. Um Um something that will fit into uh easily into someone's hand. And with a, just a few buttons. Just the basics. And with a scrolling um function also. Okay and I will leave that, leave it at that. So Marketing? Gilbert Newell: Okay. Fred Schaefer: We're watching trends. Gilbert Newell: Can I have your Fred Schaefer: I suppose Gilbert Newell: cable Fred Schaefer: that you can Gilbert Newell: please? Fred Schaefer: have this. Gilbert Newell: Thanks. Gilbert Newell: Okay so I was looking at trend-watching. Um unfortunately I wasn't given too much information. I was given a brief executive summary, and then an update on some recent fashion trends that we might like to look at. And then I'll just tell you some personal preferences that I got from that. Um okay the Gilbert Newell: functional look-and-feel design, which I think we've kind of already discussed before. Um the second most important finding was that the remote should be technologically innovative. And again these are all things we've kind of already come up with on our own, but this just backs it up. And thirdly the remote would be easy to use. As far as fashion update, we've learned that fruits and vegetables will be the most important theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So that might be a bit of a challenge to incorporate this into our remote, but we can try. Um and also, as opposed to last year, this year the material is expected to be spongy in feel. Okay so from that um, as we've already said, we need to focus on a fancy look-and-feel. Um I think we've already discovered that it's kind of hard to go away from the traditional rectangular design. But I think that, even if it's very subtle, we need to kind of trick our consumers, so they at least get the idea that they're getting something that's new and modern and sleek and Whether it's through the shape or the colours or all of that. Um for technologically innovative, we've talked about the tracking device. We brought up the idea of having two pieces, which we could discuss further. And Manuel had suggested um the energy source and the user interface, discussing some of those, um that we could change a little bit. We need to keep it simple, have limited buttons, which I think the two piece idea might be really beneficial for. Um we need to incorporate this fashion trend of fruits and vegetables. I don't know, I mean I guess the two options are if we had our remote in the shape of a fruit or vegetable. Jermaine Myers: Oh it was sort of banana shaped. Gilbert Newell: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: A banana shape? Gilbert Newell: Yeah. Right. Or with exterior designs. But my question is, I mean the stereotypically speaking, you kind of picture males with their remote controls, and I'm not sure how they'd feel about having fruity logos on the outside. So maybe we could have something that's somewhat removable, or I don't know, different options for female, male target groups. And then the spongy feel. I guess we could look at mobile phones and other technology that's out there. C and look at different types of material that might please our users who want spongy-feeling remote controls. So that's that. Fred Schaefer: So possibly Gilbert Vincent: Alright. Fred Schaefer: like a uh, sorry, just to butt in for a second. Possibly uh like a cover like they have for mobile phones? Gilbert Newell: That's what I was thinking Jermaine Myers: Those like, Gilbert Newell: yeah. Jermaine Myers: yeah, sort of spongy Fred Schaefer: You have one Jermaine Myers: ones. Fred Schaefer: with a flag, and one with a banana and one that's a spongy Gilbert Newell: Yeah. So Fred Schaefer: feel to it. Gilbert Newell: when you buy your remote you can buy Fred Schaefer: You can Gilbert Newell: various coverings. Fred Schaefer: Mm various Jermaine Myers: What's it called? Fred Schaefer: covers. Jermaine Myers: Cust you Gilbert Newell: Personalise Jermaine Myers: personalised, Gilbert Newell: your remote. Jermaine Myers: yeah. Fred Schaefer: We could leave that to the cover department. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Newell: Mm-hmm. Fred Schaefer: We all know they've got nothing to do all day. Jermaine Myers: Okay. Why can't I see the crazy. Um yeah I talking about the interface concept and how the customer relates to, will use the, consumer will use the actual device. Um so I've looked at some of the stuff I was sent, um, try and get some inspiration. But keep in mind ideas that we had. Um I was sent some information from the company saying that they, the technology department have devised a new speech recognition technology, where you can program questions into such devices. They gave an example of a coffee machine where you program a question, you program the answer, and the machine responds accordingly. Um okay. There's different ways of a user can use products l like a remote. Um there's a graphical use, where you you look at pictures and well on a screen. A command line where you obviously type things in, and you get a response. Um and then it ju that's just to point out the sort of inconsistent u sort of use of interface in remotes. You can't really see that picture well, but there's various different remotes, once again with lots of different buttons on, making it more complicated. So, then I had a look at new products that are on the market. Not necessarily remote controls but ones that you'll recognise. Um this is the voice, there is a voice recognition remote control, which can control mus multiple devices. I have a there is a picture. You surf your favourite channels uh with your voice. Store up to eighty speech samples, controls four devices, T_V_, cable, satellite, V_C_R_, D_V_D_ and audio. And you can record your own v verbal labels, that are connected to remote control functions. So the technology is there. Um the one on the left is very similar to what we drew up on the board in the previous meeting, where there has scroll down functions on the side. You can sort of just make those out. And then on the right is obviously an iPod, which is you know possibly one of the simplest things to use out there, and really is, and all that is is just a a nice big scroll menu that y you sort of go through. That is a possibility. And nothing's simpler really. Um then there's things like this, which is a a a kid's remote, where the the parents have the facility to control and program what children can watch before. So the remote control it o only allows them to access the channels that their parents want them to watch. And um it means that th children have a novelty of having their own remote control. So I don't know if there's a possibility of having one remote contr you know like we just had two components, maybe it can have more components you know, different remotes. Um the point made at the end there here is that you have to be sort of be need to be clear on your um devices, as to what, you know, things you use. Sometimes an arrow pointing down, which may suggest volume down, could become confused just as a V_ for volume. Just little things like that, which would need to be made clear in the design. Um I think, d carrying on from what I've already said, a user friendly remote with minimum buttons. Maybe we've so suggested this two-part thing, where if it was to have a speech recognition thing, you could maybe control that on the do it or program all that on the control bit. And then just have the simple sort of hand-held thing that we sort of devised earlier, as the actual remote. Um I don't it could be a graphical display, the actual remote contr the actual control port maybe could have like an iPod where you just sort of control through the menus. Stuff like gets more and more compli complicated. And then the the hand-held bit should be ergonomically designed. And that is it. Why am I Oh yeah. Just. Where are we? Uh. Just to sort of show you. M they've even got things like that. Huge things. Which is just for your gr ninety year old grandma yeah? Gilbert Vincent: That's industrial design Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: for cranes, stuff like Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: that. Gilbert Newell: Dunno. Jermaine Myers: And Gilbert Vincent: Makes Jermaine Myers: that Gilbert Vincent: sense, Jermaine Myers: yeah. Fred Schaefer: Notice Gilbert Vincent: makes Fred Schaefer: the Gilbert Vincent: sense. Fred Schaefer: giant dog bone shape? Also Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: good for Jermaine Myers: See. Fred Schaefer: animals. Jermaine Myers: things. Jermaine Myers: Why's my screen Gilbert Vincent: Uh Jermaine Myers: crazy? Gilbert Vincent: Well let's see. I'm going to bore you with a couple of descriptions of the interior. Just to to make it more obvious what we have to fit in there, and that we do have to fit the stuff in there. I've more information on possible materials um as well. What we can and cannot do. Um but let's just wait for this to up and I'll show you what we're talking about here. Okay. The details of the components' design, as you can see there, what we have is the board, main board of the remote control. The underside, that's pretty cheap piece of of technology really top left side you can see the chip, which is the, what we were talking about, this was is the device to recognise the signals the input, and it passes it on to a row of um further transistors and stuff like that on the right side that actually amplify the signal, which later on is being, is being transferred to a infrared lamp which then um of course shines infrared light onto the television which then will recognise what signal um it's getting and will do what you tell it. Um So much for the the workings of the of the uh remote control itself. Its job is to wait for you to press a key, then to translate that key press into infrared light signals, um that are received by the television. When you press a key um you complete a specific connection. The chip senses the connection and knows what button you pressed. It produces a morse code line signal specific to that button. Right. Pretty clear. Transistor amplifies the signal and then sends the m sends the signal to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. The sensor in the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal reacts appropriately. This is the circuit board from the other side. Um the lower part of it, I don't know if you can see that properly, with the green greenish board is is what we what we saw in the first the first slide just flipped over. Um you can see the circuit board itself. That's the cheapest uh way to make electronic connections basically on the market. Um what you do is you have, don't have cables, but you have the connections actually in these in these lines on the on the board. These are the actual keys that are being pressed. They close the electric circuit. That then sends the signal to the chip on the other side. That would be behind here. Um which uh sends it over to the transistors and all that stuff that amplify the signal and all that is being sent to the infrared lamp up there. Now as you can see this is the the rubber button version of it. Um the way it works is that you have the keys here. The rubber button has a little metal uh plate on the other side, which closes the circuit here. And thus gives on the signal. Now this is the simple version. Um we are talking um this this the simple and cheapest version at the same time. We are talking something more complicated of course, it's going to be more expensive as well. And not only that. Um we are also restricted in the use of our outer shell, or in the material that we could use for our outer shell. Um I've gotten some information that we could use for the case material plastic, rubber, as well. Um rubber that is used in these anti-stress balls. So it's pretty squishy. That would Gilbert Newell: Spongy? Gilbert Vincent: that would serve that purpose. Um we could also use wood, or titanium. Fred Schaefer: What's the approximate per hundred thousand for the titanium? Gilbert Vincent: Oh fya I don't have an information on that. However our company obviously can provide us with uh with the titanium, so I assume, I'm, I was given an okay to use it. It certainly is an expensive material, I'm aware of that, but I was given an okay. But there are certain restrictions to certain materials. Now let's first go through the list with the materials. So we what we can use is plastic, rubber, wood and titanium. Can also mix these. Um as for the energy source, um we were talking about that shortly in the other meeting. Um what we could use is, or what I was offered, or what we could use, is a basic bateer battery. Right? Uh a dynamo. Interestingly enough. Um we could use solar cells. Or a device that was not n not further specified that provides kinetic energy. Such as like watches you know. Where you just move them m move the the actual device and this pr uh provides it with with uh some energy. So um obviously I personally have to say that dynamo is Jermaine Myers: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: out of the question really. You don't wanna wind up your remote control before you can use it right? Um solar cell is interesting. May fail though, every here and there. Jermaine Myers: Would you have to leave it by the window? Gilbert Vincent: Mm. Jermaine Myers: yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Yeah couch Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: for a week and yeah mm. Always Fred Schaefer: Works Gilbert Vincent: the Fred Schaefer: well in Arizona Gilbert Vincent: you Fred Schaefer: but in Gilbert Vincent: But Fred Schaefer: Edinburgh Gilbert Newell: Y probably Gilbert Vincent: exactly. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Newell: not Fred Schaefer: not Gilbert Newell: yeah. Fred Schaefer: so Gilbert Vincent: Um the kinetic energy thing um might work, um but the same problem. You leave it lying around and you first have to shake it before it it starts to work. So I'd say what we're stuck with really is um the basic battery. Which also makes a base station basically obsolete. We don't need that then. Um However our interface options are push-buttons. In which uh in the production of which or in manufacture of which um our company is expert. Um However we've discussed that scroll wheels are a better option. And they are possible. We have an okay for scroll wheels. Okay. Um however when it comes to the scroll wheel of the iPod I've one big objection and that is that we have to fit an L_C_D_ into the remote control as well. This however may exclude certain um materials. If you have a squishy uh kind of remote control, then an L_C_D_ screen may be affected by the movement. Hence we might not be able to put it in there. So um There's also restrictions to, when it comes to the chip. If we have a more sophistic uh sophisticated scroll wheel rather than this very basic uh set-up that we that I've just presented, um the chip has to be more s more sophisticated and thus more expensive as well. I don't have any details to, when it comes to the cost but um it will be a significant difference. I'd rather say drop the titanium and therefore let's have a more sophisticated chip, but that's not up to Gilbert Newell to decide really. So that's for the for the scroll wheel. Um it limits our choice and squishy is hip, so I'd say rather not go for for that. Let's see now. Um um solar cells cannot be used on a curved or latex um surface or um remote control. But obviously that's not our problem um since we have decided or against solar cells, I assume right? Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: Or is Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: anybody still Fred Schaefer: No Gilbert Vincent: alright. Fred Schaefer: I think Gilbert Newell: No. Fred Schaefer: I Gilbert Newell: Hmm. Fred Schaefer: think batteries are probably the way to go. Gilbert Vincent: Alright. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Uh which makes it very conventional but therefore traditional I assume. Um Um With the titanium um we cannot make it a curved design. We would just be able to make it flat and and um yeah a straight design pretty much. Which I assume would exclude uh some of the more sophisticated versions. Jermaine Myers: Would the sort of spongy and the the plasticky thing y you can get those mobile phones that initially have a it is plastic but then they have sort of Gilbert Newell: Mm. Jermaine Myers: a a Gilbert Newell: Like Jermaine Myers: s Gilbert Newell: a covering. Jermaine Myers: a cover on it Gilbert Newell: Yeah. Jermaine Myers: which is just sort of soft and stuff. So I don't know if that would still be possible to have you know in plastic. But then where do people hold it? Just Fred Schaefer: Yeah. Jermaine Myers: all be sort of spongy. Gilbert Newell: The we can have the fruits and vegetables on the spongy parts, so they can remove it. Jermaine Myers: So you Like the Gilbert Vincent: You Jermaine Myers: iPod? Gilbert Vincent: can have an L_C_D_ screen. Um but therefore no rubber will be used. Jermaine Myers: Right. Gilbert Vincent: Alright? So plastic yes, titanium yes, but this will of course influence the form. With plastic, as I understand it, you can use any form. Um latex is tricky. Or rubber and um and titanium also seems to be tricky when it comes to the form. So the way to go is if you want a scroll wheel you either make it flat and angular, uh add an L_C_D_ screen, and um then you can basically choose either plastic or titanium. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Or wood even. Um if you wanna make it a particular shape, use plastic. Add Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: an L_C_D_ screen, add a scroll wheel, that'll be fine. Or make it just push-buttons. Basically plastic gives you the b biggest variety of of options. Maybe not the nicest feel. Or not much Fred Schaefer: So Gilbert Vincent: originality Fred Schaefer: the ru Gilbert Vincent: really. Fred Schaefer: wait the rubbery we can shape it however we want? Or the rubbery we cannot? Gilbert Vincent: With rubber we could uh sh pretty much shape it the way we wanted Fred Schaefer: 'Kay. Gilbert Vincent: it, but we cannot add scroll wheels, and we cannot Fred Schaefer: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: add an L_C_D_ screen. Gilbert Newell: Mm. Fred Schaefer: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: That's the tricky thing. Jermaine Myers: Could we not you know have a shape with a scroll and the screen, and then j just sort of that initial shape we had, just which is uh sort of banana-esque. So that's thing if we did it yellow. Fred Schaefer: Yeah. Jermaine Myers: And um you know you just p stick on just sort of rubber things that that sort of grip the thumb bit. They wouldn't have any they're just on the exterior. They wouldn't be necessary to the actual shape of the thing. Fred Schaefer: Is that an option, a plastic shell with a rubbery coating on at Gilbert Vincent: S Fred Schaefer: certain spots? Gilbert Vincent: Certainly can be done yes. Um yeah. if that doesn't affect Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: the functional side of it all. Like say just the underside or so then it can be done. I assume. Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: So The fruit design um How about um affecting the surface of the actual um remote control? Say we don't make it p a particular fruit shape Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: obviously, but uh give it like the surface of an orange, banana, whatever. You name it. Jermaine Myers: Mm. Fred Schaefer: What Gilbert Vincent: Just Fred Schaefer: about a Gilbert Vincent: design-wise. Fred Schaefer: smell? T to the remote? Gilbert Vincent: Mm. Nice one. Jermaine Myers: You could just sell it in different colours as well I suppose. In different Gilbert Newell: Bright Jermaine Myers: ye Gilbert Newell: citrus Jermaine Myers: yellows. Gilbert Newell: colours yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Mm. Jermaine Myers: I don't suppose we have to stick to Gilbert Vincent: Well Jermaine Myers: co Gilbert Vincent: we we're supposed to stick Jermaine Myers: Stick Gilbert Vincent: to Jermaine Myers: to the colours yeah. Gilbert Vincent: the Gilbert Newell: Oh yeah. Gilbert Vincent: company colours Gilbert Newell: Yellow Gilbert Vincent: though, Gilbert Newell: and Gilbert Vincent: that's Gilbert Newell: grey. Gilbert Vincent: yellow and grey. Fred Schaefer: Yellow and grey. Gilbert Vincent: So what have we, lemon, banana, is Jermaine Myers: Mm grapefruit. Fred Schaefer: Grapefruit. Gilbert Vincent: Grapefruit is what we'd go for, when it comes to the outer appearance perhaps. But mm. Fred Schaefer: I would say, if I were to make a decision, I would probably put the fruit aspect at the lower Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: lower end of the spectrum of of importance. Um Gilbert Newell: I think having a shape could be a little ridiculous, like Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Well we have it banana-shaped Gilbert Newell: Well we kinda Gilbert Vincent: already, Gilbert Newell: do yeah. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: kind of. So Fred Schaefer: Well perhaps the implied shape will be enough to lure that Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: fruit-minded remote Gilbert Newell: And if it's yellow? Fred Schaefer: buyer. Gilbert Vincent: Right. Jermaine Myers: and if it if it was done yellow, which Fred Schaefer: It's Jermaine Myers: is a company Fred Schaefer: it's yellow. Jermaine Myers: colour. Gilbert Vincent: I it's yellow. Fred Schaefer: It's Gilbert Newell: Grey buttons Fred Schaefer: curved. Gilbert Newell: yeah. Gilbert Vincent: Well so why Fred Schaefer: It's Gilbert Vincent: not add Fred Schaefer: sort Gilbert Vincent: a couple Fred Schaefer: of Gilbert Vincent: of grey stripes and make Fred Schaefer: couple Gilbert Vincent: it look Fred Schaefer: of Gilbert Vincent: like a banana? Fred Schaefer: couple Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: of grey stripes. We could put the grey stripes on the bottom so that that person Jermaine Myers: On the Fred Schaefer: could turn Jermaine Myers: the gr Fred Schaefer: it Jermaine Myers: the Fred Schaefer: over. Jermaine Myers: rubbery grips could be Fred Schaefer: It would look like Jermaine Myers: grey. Fred Schaefer: a banana Gilbert Newell: Mm. Fred Schaefer: just sitting on their table. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: There you go. Fred Schaefer: Rather than rather th Jermaine Myers: It could and then you could actually h put the banana-shaped thing on the fruit bowl, Gilbert Newell: Oh. Jermaine Myers: on the coffee table, and then people would always know where it was. Fred Schaefer: Maybe the holder, Gilbert Newell: Nice. Fred Schaefer: if we were Gilbert Newell: Could Fred Schaefer: to have Gilbert Newell: look Fred Schaefer: a Gilbert Newell: like Fred Schaefer: holder, Gilbert Newell: a fruit Fred Schaefer: it could Gilbert Newell: bowl. Fred Schaefer: be shaped Gilbert Vincent: It could Fred Schaefer: like Gilbert Vincent: be Fred Schaefer: a fruit. Gilbert Vincent: an ape. Fred Schaefer: Could Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: be, it could be an ape or a fruit bowl. we Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: could have a variety of options here. Gilbert Newell: 'Kay. Gilbert Vincent: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: Do you have more to your presentation? Gilbert Vincent: That's pretty much it. I informed you about the materials, Fred Schaefer: Oh. Gilbert Vincent: what the interior has to look like, and what the limitations to certain materials are on there you go. Fred Schaefer: Okay. I'm gonna plug in here real quick. Gilbert Vincent: Sure. Fred Schaefer: If Gilbert Vincent: Hang on. Fred Schaefer: I could. Gilbert Vincent: There you go. Fred Schaefer: Um ow. Ow. Gilbert Newell: So is the two piece idea out? Or have we not decided? Jermaine Myers: Well we sort of rid of that because gonna use a battery. And the base station might not be necessary. Gilbert Newell: Oh right okay. Gilbert Vincent: Well we can still design a two-piece Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: uh remote um without having a base, having one of them be a base station, Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: but just have it be an optional either big remote with lots of functions, or you take Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: out the smaller piece. We can still do that. However of course this would be like designing two remotes pretty much. Fred Schaefer: Mm-hmm. Gilbert Vincent: So um which then, as I understand it, would probably limit the, limit again the the the use of certain materials, because they would be too expensive. Say like have a scroll wheel and uh on both of them, or have an L_C_D_ screen and so on so on. Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: You'd probably have to stick rather with a just traditional rubber button design which we saw there. Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: But could be done, of course. Fred Schaefer: Okay. Uh so these are the decisions that we do need to make by the end of this meeting. Um for our components concept we need to come up with the energy source, um the chip-on-print, and the case. Probably case um material. And probably a shape also. Um and then for the user interface concept we need to decide what the tape, what, what the type is. And what kind of supplements we'll have. Um Energy source I think we've, I think we've decided batteries, although not exciting, are probably our best bet. Gilbert Vincent: Right. Fred Schaefer: And we have five minutes. Gilbert Vincent: Okay when it comes to the chip-on-print, as I said, the the more advanced features you want, um the fancier the chip has to be and the more expensive. Uh if you want just a normal button version, the chip-on-print Gilbert Newell: Mm. Gilbert Vincent: is gonna be a cheap one. Right? Fred Schaefer: 'Kay. So Um I guess we should pick the case then. If we go with the plasticky case, or the the plastic case, um then the chip-on-print is still kind of, we could have either or. We could have a complex one or a a non-complex. Gilbert Vincent: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: But did we decide that the rubbery feel was important enough to us? Gilbert Newell: Well what about what you said, like putting Jermaine Myers: Just Gilbert Newell: the Jermaine Myers: just Gilbert Newell: finger Jermaine Myers: maybe Gilbert Newell: grips Jermaine Myers: yeah. Gilbert Newell: just on Jermaine Myers: Just Gilbert Newell: top Jermaine Myers: a little Gilbert Newell: of the plastic? Jermaine Myers: bit of. Fred Schaefer: Okay. So we would, we would have the L_C_D_ screen? Gilbert Vincent: as long as the pla uh the rubber is nowhere near the controls, yes. Fred Schaefer: 'Kay. So I guess the case would be plastic, with Perhaps that's not even enough rubber to qualify as being part of it. It's Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Fred Schaefer: more of a su it's more of a supplement maybe. Gilbert Newell: Yeah. Gilbert Vincent: M more of a l lamination perhaps. Jermaine Myers: Yeah. Gilbert Newell: So then for the scroll, are we going for the iPod type? Jermaine Myers: Yeah I think so. Gilbert Newell: Yeah? Jermaine Myers: I think. Gilbert Newell: Okay. Fred Schaefer: Which will require a more expensive chip-on-print right? Gilbert Vincent: Yes. It does. Fred Schaefer: 'Kay. So Fred Schaefer: I guess that, is that, is that about it? So we have a good idea of what we're gonna need to to do on this? Gilbert Vincent: Right. Fred Schaefer: Um okay so we will have another meeting in thirty minutes. Um Here's what's gonna be going on. Um Um Ryan you'll be working on the user interface design. Um Manuel you'll be working on the look-and-feel design. Gilbert Vincent: Right. Fred Schaefer: Corrine we'll want a product evaluation. And the two of you get to play with the uh modelling components and uh maybe and and get us a prototype. Which should go along well with your look-and-feel design and your interface. So that basically just be working on the prototype, uh we'll accomplish your other two actions. Fred Schaefer: Alright. Okay. Let's do it.

Fred Schaefer reviewed the minutes of the previous meeting. Gilbert Newell discussed the results of trend watching reports which indicated a need for products which have a fancy look and feel, are technologically innovative, easy to use, include a fruit and vegetable theme, and are spongy in feel. Gilbert Newell stressed the need to incorporate these findings into the team's design and suggested that the team should create a remote that has limited buttons , can be personalized, and is not rectangular. Jermaine Myers briefly described how speech recognition technology works and what ways a user can use a remote. Jermaine Myers presented three existing products on the market - a voice recognition remote, an iPod, and a children's remote - and discussed a few features to include in the team's design. Gilbert Vincent discussed the interior workings of a remote and the restrictions involved in combining various components, energy sources, and materials. Gilbert Vincent also discussed with the how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into their design. The team then discussed and decided what components, materials, and energy sources to use.

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: Okay. And don't forget the Oh yeah. Um, so hi everyone. Thanks for coming to this meeting. Um well as you all know the topic of this morning's meeting is uh the fact that we're moving and we are going to get more space. So that's a very good piece of news. Uh but we also have to find out how we use this space. So um if you want, I'll just give a brief overview of what's happening and then we can uh talk about, well, arranging these new uh the new office space So. um in case you haven't seen the the documents uh let James Shook just uh show you very briefly the the configuration of the the space. So um well, there is nothing much to say. Well you know how many of us are are present and you know that we are um a bit tight actually in our present location. Uh that's why actually the university finally um allocated us this uh this part of uh the Unimail building. So it's at the sixth floor. And it's uh sort of contiguous rooms as you you can all see from uh from here. Um so the the the one P_, two P_, three P_ means the the number of persons. As you can see we have several corridor um with a number of uh of uh of rooms, of one person rooms, two person room and and three person rooms. Um actually I think Agnes did this nice drawing so she even put the the view, so we have the old town on one side, and the mountains on the other two sides. Uh we have some bathrooms for us. Uh and a courtyard which actually means a sort of uh shaft, because uh the court is uh down at uh the first floor. Andre, just, yeah just a a clarification question, are they number of people per room indicated strict, or can we play around with? I mean if there are two people, is it really that you can't put three or uh two and a half or uh how how was it Well, calculated? it's a bit difficult to say, because um in fact we have some constraints in terms of furniture. Uh they are here. 'Kay. So um well, your your person Your your question actually is answered maybe by the third item. So each person should get um, well, it's a sort of desk, it's made of two pieces and it looks like a corner. With, of course, a chair. Uh a filing cabinet that goes under the desk uh and, well, we can put hanging shelves over the the desks. So I'm not really sure it's possible to get three um three desks in a two person office. But um we could Mm-hmm. try. What's What should be said here, I don't know if, well, you I I will maybe distribute now documents if you don't have them. Maybe it's easier. Do you need something, Martin? I Um, have everything. I can keep this for Okay, you. so Uh so it's I have it's a copy Yeah, Yeah. you have a copy, Susan. You too David, I think. Mm-hmm. So in fact there are more places than people, so we won't be that constrained. Uh as you know some of us and some of you here actually, Martin and David are part-time. So it it's for the moment quite comfortable. Normally we should even get an extra uh an extra place for, you know, temporary people coming to work on Are uh you sure on of that? projects. Uh yeah, I uh yeah, I counted so we have um fifteen pers physical persons Mm-hmm. and about uh sixteen, I think, uh persons oh, actually, Two eighteen persons in the offices. Six seven eight Yeah, nine but counting ten the eleven rea twelve the thirteen the fourteen reading room. fifteen Exactly, sixteen it so seventeen one eighteen. of the issues uh here, it's probably not on the slides, is that we would like to have uh, unlike what had until now, a lounge or reading room Mm-hmm. uh in one of the the offices. So in one of the rooms. Do we really need that? Um, I think quite a lot of people e expressed the need for that. So if we could do it, then I think it would be much nicer. Um let James Shook also uh st say something forget Yep. time we spend to for discussions about that room, so you should be able to valorize this if Okay. possible. Yeah, I I But think I still so. agree with you that the b the we are not so we are not so large, as far as space is Yeah. concerned. Uh because fifteen people to put in there eighteen positions, Mm-hmm. so uh to the best uh if you take uh two people room for the reading room, then you have Well, sixteen uh sixteen places. slots for Mm. fifteen people. So it's still should be feasible. Yeah, that that also means That's that the growth will be zero. Yeah, I think that's quite important to manage some space. Maybe we can think of, yeah, some two Visiting or three, visiti visiting yeah, researchers, for visiting people. students coming Correct. for exchange students et cetera. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay, so let James Shook finish with the the constraints which are almost done. So we also need to to find the a spot for the photocopier, the fax machine, and the printer. The fax, you know, is very small, but um the photocopier is quite huge, and the printer is uh well ab this size. Um okay, the offices comes with white boards. Not very uh very important. Uh the furniture that w each each person has and uh you have a list of people. So the thing uh you you ought to know is that we're not the only ones that w we're thin that that are thinking about uh for well, about putting people i in these rooms. Um there is another group that is also having discussions. So the idea is that today we'll just try to f start seeing the main constraints and then you have time to to go and think about it uh ask the people you know, your assistants, for instance, next meeting we'll try to to come with one solution. Uh, the other group will also propose a solution and then there will be another negotiation. So And w if we don't get this space then what happens? Uh if i if we don't get these? These, yeah. Um, well We j basically we stay they are where promised we are. to us so uh Do do you think there are chances that they take from us one of the rooms or uh Okay. Yeah, I I I think it's uh Uh, No the the the chances yeah. might be that there are more people to put in that space. Yeah i yeah, that's one of the the problems. I think maybe we should take this into account and maybe think of some of the bigger rooms with four people, one being temporary or or part-time. Um okay, so maybe we could try to to see now what would be the main options. Say the general uh, well, arrangement options. Do you think that we should put people, say, according to projects for instance? In in the table that um that we have, uh we also have the uh uh the p the main projects on which the people are working. So how Andre, sorry for Yeah. interrupting, but uh one Mm-hmm. again clarification question, what is the real margin of manoeuvre that we have for these discussions, because uh at least we are half per cent uh fifty per cent of from E_P_F_L_ and uh sometimes you have meetings where w y the the decision is already taken, so uh um you can spend quite a lot of time discussing things, so what what will be the impact of what we will come out Oh, actually come what up with? is fixed is the n the number of rooms. This we cannot really change. I mean at least not us, it would be much more difficult to get another another room for instance. But what is absolutely n not fixed is the arrangement of the people in the rooms. So So, another basically way of we a are all the permutations are possible at the moment. Another way of asking the question, is there any other group already working on uh on the how this should be uh should be allocated? Or are we the Um the one that is supposed to do the p the the p position for it? Well, what we are looking for is a solution that suits everyone and that makes the maximum of people happy. So uh the other group is, uh I don't think we have to see them as competitors, but they are just trying to to find another local optimum. Or But l wha why uh why don't they have any representative here. I mean Yeah, why didn't we have a meeting together? Yeah, Uh, they why have Uh do another we do group it separately? and uh uh Andre and Agnes will about it with. You are the rep representative Yeah. of this group actually. Yeah uh uh we Yeah. I I think that's Yeah, there is no real competition between the two, but we'll just try to find at least two solutions and see how how close they are, actually. It's it's I think well the m the people who who decided this thought it was the best solution to, mm well, you know, find two two kinds of opinions. Yeah. Okay. Well, we could have been eight h sitting around here and and talking, but I think it's it's more difficult. No, but you know that that's a standard thing. It's Suppose that somebody for some strange reasons want to be in the corner and we don't know about that, we'll put them put her or him somewhere else, then we will do plenty of work for nothing, Mm-hmm. because we'll not have this constraint. We'll not Well be aware of this constraint. Exactly, I think So so today the goal is not to to find the solution Oh, today, okay. but to set some constraints Okay. and then go and see the people and find out if they have any preferences. Obviously we won't be able to accommodate all the the preferences, but at least we'll find the most uh the most important ones. Well, certainly we have P s to I think ask uh Pierrette and uh and Maggie, since they're not here, because Mm-hmm. they also a Yeah. lot of students that they have to see as we do, and Yeah. so that's another consideration, too. Yeah, I think so that's one of the things I think we know that they have students, we don't know exactly if they prefer for instance to be alone, or to well, to be with their assistant, or even with another person working on the project. So that would have been maybe, yeah, another solution is to ask everyone to provide uh an arrangement, but uh I think that's a bit uh a bit hard then to to work out. Um so since all of you have a copy of the uh, well, of the drawing, I think for the next time, m maybe you could come with a concrete proposal with uh names on it. But let us try to see today whether we prefer to organise people, say, by projects or just professor and assistant. So what would be f, say, first your preferences, since Let's let's start with us, maybe today. Um what do you think about it? Would you prefer to be alone, would you prefer to be with your assistant. You who are part-time, do Hmm. you think you can come here on a very w well regular schedule or is it part-time, but variable during the week? Yeah uh, okay uh, James Shook personally I would like to to to share the other peopl n uh the room with assistants as when you have problems of normal life, like uh the printer doesn't work, uh I don't want to ask this to my supervisor, Uh-huh. And since you're coming on the uh half-time, Mm-hmm. do you think you will be able to group your presence here, say Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday morning, or is it going to be What m much uh more random? I don't think it's a good idea to share uh t to ha to share the same desk. Okay. Uh I still would like to have my drawers and these things. Yeah, I think so too. Um so Martin, you are also uh half-time and, well, the third person is Gisella. I think it's quite clear that mm each person should have their own desk and I agree with Yeah. that. That's It's no no way we we could put two persons at the same desk. Whe whe where part-time is important is that it's n an overlo load on a room, so um for sure if you have a part-time person, it reduces the the ranges of time where too many people in the room. Yeah, I think As far grouping as I am concerned I probably might be able to have a kind of a regular presence here. Um, the uh the thing that f in my case has to be taken into account is that I will have a lot of phone calls. So Mm-hmm. I'll be talking o Oh o great. o over the phone all the time. So that's not necessary Well, it depends on I I have nothing against sharing a a an office with somebody. I d already did it before, so and it was perfectly fine. It just has to be somebody who can work while somebody else is having phone calls in the in the room, which is very d much dependent on people. Some people are not disturb at all by this. Mm-hmm. Some people just can't work. Are you disturbed by the phone calls of other people? I'm not. Okay. But uh and uh what might happen, but it uh it will not be so heavy here uh at ISSCO is visitors. So that I will have more at E_P_F_L_, uh typically students Mm-hmm. coming in um or asking for things. As I'm not teaching here, I'm teaching at E_P_F_L_, this should shouldn't be a such a big load. So for James Shook it it will be essentially I will not Mm-hmm. be I will not be able to be silent in the room, because I will be communicating also through vocal means, so Mm-hmm. Ye mm before um talking more about individual preferences, is there any possibility, what they have done in the uh faculty of law, for example, that they actually split rooms? And so we would take uh uh one of the two people rooms Hmm. and split it. And you would see that you would have Yeah. the same size office, but that would give the privacy. Mm-hmm. Um insofar as in just about every other faculty in the building, every professor has their own office. Mm-hmm. And it's Hmm. it's really it goes a bit far that uh we have to have this uh all this sharing uh. So one option and that but that we would need to ask about if we could uh split one of the rooms uh Do you go for boxes for instance? In the in the bigger rooms where, yeah Like You know like cubicles. uh cubicles? Yeah. That doesn't really solve it uh Hmm. I mean there's there's You mean, really you a difference really want Mm-hmm. to to have having walls. to have your own Yeah, and sometimes Four walls. you have uh Yeah. you need to have private uh discussions Yeah, with somebody sure or sure. whatever, so Yeah, I I I will try to find out whether we can separate. I think for the moment the answer at least is no, because um it's not only, well, making a wall, but also b mm making a new door. So it's quite a lot of uh of work, but uh I will try to find this out for the next time. Um, so at least for the moment, as you can see there are uh I can show them here on the screen. So there are these two rooms on the left that uh accommodate one person. Mm-hmm. So at least Yeah. some of the professors, since you are four, uh could could go uh well, could take these uh these rooms. And quite a lot of rooms with two persons. Uh how do you feel Susan about the professor sharing the room with her assistants or the one which is the most involved in in the teaching? Well, I I think it's uh really a matter of personal preference. As you know um, I prefer to have Hmm. uh my own office. Hmm. Um, I also have uh a lot of phone calls and y you know, have to see people, and with the other work that I'm doing with the rectorate uh, that is really confidential information that Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm treating. So Yeah. I That I have to be really careful about too. But it's a personal preference uh. Insofar as what we've had up until now, both Maggie and Pierrette have been happy to share with others. So I mean I think Mm-hmm. that we should still check with them I fully agree with that. That's uh it's much easier to James Shook to uh to foresee having two people of the same position sharing a room, than Well, not uh sharing with each other. They Oh each sharing share with with an their assistant. students. Yeah. Oh sorry, Yeah. because but that that's uh it's it's tricky because of confidentiality reasons, as you said. Yeah, you you you are discussing a budget on the on the project, you over the phone typically you don't necessary want to have somebody who will be dependent Paid on Mm-hmm. on that that budget being part of the discussion, Mm-hmm. so Yeah, that's um that's true. Um, okay. Um, maybe we could s look a bit at the projects. Do you think it's a good idea to put together in the same room as No. much as possible people from the same project, since they talk No, because quite a lot of to pro each other? project doesn't last in time. They will change. Mm-hmm. That's Okay. what Well, yeah, and some of the P_H_D_ students will hopefully Yeah, they will finish promote that. their P_H_D_ at some point. But still, th some things Well, Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah, and also some of our the people mentioned here are working on more than one project Yeah. too. So For example, Mm-hmm. uh Marianne de uh, she's also working with James Shook on the virtual campus project, so Uh-huh. she that one wasn't mentioned, but I'm not saying Okay, that I necessarily yeah. want to be with her in the office, but Mm-hmm. uh it's just to say people are working on uh sometimes more than one project uh If if it if i if projects are what you have in mind, I think that uh meeting room is the the tool for that. Yeah. If you need Yeah. to have people in a projects talking together, they just have a meeting room if Yep. it's not too far away then then it's a very good good Yeah. practice. Well, actually, so the lounge could serve as some kind of meeting room, but there are also more formal meeting rooms Yes. available in in the building, as we That's now why know. I was quite receptive to uh Susan's remark at the beginning is I wouldn't formulate it in a such a an extreme way as, do we really need the lounge? But uh I would Mm-hmm. p probably formulate it in the way that uh, do we want to have only a lounge or s something that can be used only as a reading room? Because because meeting rooms to James Shook are very important tools to do uh collaborative work. Mm-hmm. But on the So other I hand think we we also need a have to relax, so that's Yeah, and and I think also we need a separate discussion on the furnishing of the Yes. lounge, Well, which is yeah, a we'll whole skip that other for now. topic. Yes. No I d um the lounge okay, but I think we need to also see it as a overflow place when we have Yeah. um uh visitors for any length of time, so Yeah. they actually have a place to work. 'Cause that's really my one of my worries Uh-huh. with the plan that we have here is that it's it pr provides no possible possibilities of expansion. And Um this will happen. I mean you can't you can't prevent having visitors. And you shouldn't. No, Yeah, you want to have yeah, visitors. for the moment Yeah. actually I think only one slot would be fully free. Uh Which that for is for fifteen Yeah. people it's not enough. Yeah, I that means mean uh one visitor at Yeah. a time. Or one Yeah it's intern. Yeah, that's We have we have four It's Mm-hmm. professors here and and and It's funny Mm-hmm. that uh we two move researchers. to another building because we run out of uh space and we will have the same problem. Mm. Yes, but we have more space here than Ah what we okay. currently have, Yeah, so it's already in progress. it's at least It's bad some it's And you're bad. you're working Uh I think, yeah, w Okay, so one of the things I have to do for the next time is fin find out about the separations between rooms Because this and is really related with security uh regulation as well. I mean you can't just put walls in in rooms Yeah, I without think it's any quite specific a heavy transformation authoris Yeah. of the building. Uh it's not necessary heavy in terms of work. It's heavy Mm-hmm. in terms of administrative authorisation. Mm-hmm. And At okay, least at E_P_F_L_. I'll try to find out. And the other question is, can we squeeze maybe four people in the uh or at least four places in the three three P_ room? I think so. If you organise the desks in a in a intelligent way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, hopefully visitors don't need as much say filing Yep. space, or um Yeah, right, that's the point. Yeah, they don't have that many papers. Uh okay. So that's uh I have to to ask, so you don't really feel um very strongly attached to this uh grouping by projects No. idea? No. Mm-hmm. No, Um because they can share their ideas across the project, yeah, I would say. Coffee machines are that made for that. Yeah, But uh exactly. usually, whe when new assistants come, they Mm-hmm. would like to share the room with someone that knows uh l uh it's related with the project, so he No, can Mm-hmm. that's that's proximity doesn't play a big role there. We can discuss Yeah, they with people that they the can the change. space is very small, I mean, altogether it's Mm. Mm-hmm. And uh No, you okay. don't y you don't need to discuss about the projects, you f more need about th to discuss about where is the printer, how do I get furniture, I'm I don't have a a pencil, where is the the box with the pencils, and so on. This is not project related. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, and if you look now at their uh the the current division of the offices, for example, uh Bruno and Agnes are sharing an office and they're working on totally different projects and Mm-hmm. Yeah. and they're they're just fine with that. Yeah, I think that's that's going to be one of the the main things we'll have to ask is whether people have strong preferences either in staying with someone or in uh not staying. Um, are you aware f of any strong constraints right now? Well, there there were, but they sort of disappeared as of October when the no smoking rule came in, because before we were Oh. grouping Yeah, the smokers that's true. and now that there's no smoking, uh I guess that's not very important option, though Okay, yeah, that's true. So smoking is now um no longer a constraint. Well, except for that maybe you don't even want anybody smoking on your balcony, so Yeah. Is it allowed to smoke inside an office, if it's a one No. person No, not any No. more. No, n it's It's non-smoking in campus. in principle it's a it's a no smoking building. You can smoke outside. Mm-hmm. So you can go outside onto the balcony Not even in the to cafeteria? smoke. Not even Downstairs? in the cafeteria. No. Full Yeah. That's no Okay. smoking the new building regulation. Wow. for all of the six thousand students. On the roof maybe. Uh on the balcony, actually. Yeah. The balcony, Yep. okay. Yeah. Normally. There is the there's that terrace. But Wow, Andre, uh just there there's a no place in inside the building? No. Wow, E_T_P_F_L_ is a c it's a non-smoking campus, but there are some places tha Still some places where smokers can Yeah survive. yeah yeah. But Andre, just Yeah. a comment abou Mm-hmm. about your your previous uh request. I I don't think that anyone will provide you information such as who doesn't want to be with whom. That's a typical uh output of ex uh research in expert systems. These are the rules that you never get. But uh you can get them through a proposal. The other way. So you propose Mm-hmm. a set-up, where people are with other peoples and they will find politically correct ways to tell you that uh they don't want to have a view on the mountains, but they prefer to have view on the old town, so they O on the would toilets be in or the toilets. They would um p prefer to be in another Mm-hmm. room. No, we we do have one constraint that's difficult, which is uh Gisella, because when Yeah. she's Yeah. there she's very noisy. Yeah. She's on the But phone that's a sec a lot s that's It's the just admin that's it's the admin by uh so Yeah. it's part of It's the by work. nat uh by Yeah. the nature of her work that uh Mm-hmm. a lot of it is communication. Yes, Martin said Yeah. also for him and, yeah, especially for Yep. her. Yeah the in she's the interface. And So that that's a problem, you're right, because Mm-hmm. because we don't have a one person we d we don't have enough one person rooms Yep. for uh accommodating the uh the admin place. And uh if you put two person persons or three persons for the admin space, who who who else would you put in there? Mm-hmm. Because we don't have any assistant manager or we don't have We have only one half part half-time uh admin and no other non-researcher positions, if I'm not mistaken. And this is Yep. really a piece of a problem. Maybe Yeah. you could put some visitors, but um Yeah, I know. It's I not think very Yeah. uh realistic Mm-hmm. in a in a in an admin I think room, putting but Gisella uh with the other admin of the school is not an option, because I think we weren't that's a offered excellent idea. Yeah, it would be nice, Why but don't we uh ask about that? Yeah, Okay, I'll try to because find out, but You can't uh put a researcher there. That's just Either you lose one position I th or you find another admin or assistant manager. Yeah. I mean there is certainly enough space uh down the hall, wi Yeah. if all of those uh uh offices that are, where half of them are also half time, and they're very under-used. So um Okay, we'll try, but all these, yeah, are say sort of difficult questions because they involve changing also the offices of Yep. the school and, you know, people just don't wanna change in general. Um, let's see, maybe we can find some temporary well, at least a proposal for Gisella. So, since the one-person rooms are quite, well, sort of um desired by a lot of people, she No that's should not probably sure that's not sure. No, Uh the y there are Yeah. To James Shook there Okay. are two options possible is either you we can take one of the one person rooms for the admin, because Mm-hmm. some of, typically, the professors have good reasons for sharing. Mm-hmm. Sharing either with a colleague or sharing uh with some of their uh one of their P_H_D_ students. In that case it's it's realistic. Then we could very very simply uh allocate the one pers one of the one person rooms for the admin. And that would solve the problem. The other thing is to take a two person room for the admin. That could Mm-hmm. be the one uh close to the uh close to the here in the centre so uh the Uh, the the middle one here? Yeah. But Okay. tha No no no, the other one, the the one op Yeah, here, This this one. one. Okay. But then uh that the the question of what do we do with the second position there remains fully open. Mm-hmm. So I would Well be I would be more of the opinion to to see whether it's it's so evident that, let's say the at least the two full full-time professors that are here on the list, we have one here, but uh Yeah. Maggie is is not present. Mm-hmm. If they really And Pierrette too. Yeah, and Pierrette. Yeah. If Yeah, well if if because of personal preferences they would be happy with a two person room, Mm-hmm. which might or might not be the case. I mean it's it's Yeah. certainly not uh something that we should impose, Mm-hmm. but we can ask. Yeah, because in this case, yeah, Gisella could take one of the the two person rooms and the other place would be for some kind of visitor, Yeah, but that's that not realistic either. I mean, you have you have I a fore or foreign researcher coming visiting you and you will put put him in the admin office? Ah. Okay. Uh. Uh you'll not do that. I mean uh, maybe you can do that with an exchange student, that's Yeah, Yeah, or with with an intern. younger people, yeah. But Mm-hmm. you can't take a senior visitor and uh No. him in the in So the secretary. we we invite invite and then we say, okay you can Uh sit you're with here. Gisella. Yeah. Okay. Okay so this sets a bit the stage for uh for Gisella then. Uh yeah we'll try to to find out. Um, actually, yeah, maybe we should remind that quite a lot of professors at the at the school actually share their office with their assistant. So b it looks like sort of an implicit tradition. Um Maybe As not Susan to Except said, be for followed. p in every other faculty. Okay. Yeah? Is that so? Yes, it is so Oh. Every. other faculty as far as I have seen their offices and the people Mm-hmm. that I know and that's in um in law, Yeah. uh socio-economics, Okay. uh okay? It's a They all have their own office. I mean in in the No no, that's in it. the law faculty they're at best there half time. As we said, it's Mm-hmm. it's really a matter of personal preference, it cannot be something else. It cannot Yeah. be imposed for sure. It's uh Um, okay so I think Well, this sets a bit uh the stage. Uh could we try So could you try please to uh Do you want an extra uh piece of paper? Maybe try to, job. well, think on your own and then talk a little bit just to the people around you. Again uh uh um, Andre, I think that the only realistic way we can do is to speak for our for ourselves. I can tell you Mm-hmm. according to what I know now where I would like or would be ready to be, but I really don't see how I could decide for uh Maggie or Pierrette or Yeah. whoever else on the list, No the point We're that gonna was have they to to. should try be to, there. well, just Yeah, b why why talk couldn't to them, we do like to David, couldn't or we do it like for for the the set-up of meetings. You you everyone received that and uh should provide Yeah, I would Mm-hmm. like to be here. And then you will have this multi-constraint problem and uh you work during Yeah. two hours and you come So up w with w the optimal w will solution. you ask people just for their place or also Yeah, for I the would other people's I would place? ask for their place. I mean that's that's Because that's the important Uh-huh. thing you want to know. Well, W what but that's abou what about the the the cafeteria? I mean, we are going to purchase a cafeteria with a projector and all this Uh it's a reading altogether room. or Reading room, yeah. It's Reading altogether. room, it's not a cafeteria. So in the But living that that's room an open question whether it's a it's a it's a it At the origin it was supposed to be a f pure reading room for relaxing, uh reading the newspapers, et cetera, et cetera. Mm-hmm. Uh there has been a very long discussion about that. I stinct uh this discussion is still vivid, that some of the people, I bel belong to these people, would like to have a mixed room where you can have a reading room for sure, but also meeting room if necessary. Or, as uh Susan said, a room an emergency room where you can put uh some visitors in a decent environment for for Mm-hmm. for for work, because you don't have any other place to do it. But that's that's really an open discussion and that d I think no Yeah. decision, no final Okay, decision th has then been taken about that. Okay then for the next time, um try to come up either with your own preferences, that's Yes. quite easy probably to state now that you know the constraints, Yes. or if you can poll a little bit the people around you, that would be I mean, The even one that I don't want to have in the next room? Well, just discuss i Yeah, for instance, I mean No, no, I was thinking just ask people around you Okay. what they think about this. And I think, yeah, it will be nice to to come with maybe a sketch of of these. If you can do slides, it's even better, but uh don't be that formal. And uh we'll try to at least build up one coherent proposal, and we'll merge it with the other one when the other one uh is available. Okay. Okay, I'll Um. ask um uh Maggie and Pierrette uh if That would they be great. have Oh, uh great. That would be any great. preferences. Mm-hmm. Perfect. C that that of course is one of the Yeah. main well not main but Yeah. one of the important No. features that we need to Yeah, know since about. they're not at the meeting I think Yes. it's in And out I'll try of courtesy to we should Yes. first ask Bu I ju them. just before Fine. finishing uh, I mean, we have a cafeteria or we don't eat at all? We don't have cafeteria. What do you mean by cafeteria He means reading exactly? room. A place n what mm uh What we can take a coffee also. No, there is no coffee in the reading room. No? Yeah, That w we was can the wrong bring We your coffee in the reading we did not room, have any but money for buying the coffee machines, So so so since maybe, you're a part-time here, and part-ti part-time at E_P_F_L_, there are at least two um coffee machines in the building, one at the third floor, one at the first floor. But And they we can close bring at our coffee. five or? No Ah uh automatic okay. No. Coffee uh machines. coffee machines. Okay, okay. So uh yeah. No, there's But, the cafeteria is downstairs, in Yeah, yeah, but they this. close Uh-huh. at five. Five. Ah that's the main problem. Yeah, Mm-hmm. but there's the two machines, and they're uh the vending machines where you just Yeah, put vending the money machines. and and And Mm-hmm. Okay. you you can can bring get your coffee Yeah. in the Okay. reading room. Yeah. Yeah, maybe this is not a very bad timing. Could we try T to to meet try the coffee? uh next Tuesday? Wait. Um, next Tuesday maybe at t maybe a bit later? Maybe at eleven Wait, wai wai o'clock? wai wait. Wait, Next wait. Tuesday. Tuesday um Come on, try try to be nice. Uh, well well well well, not Gi so give easy, Yes, eh? James Shook a reasonable I ha I date. have Ch no constraints, so it's fine. Um we have the Yeah, don't for forget James Shook it's we have a good the other timing. meeting the M_D_M_ meeting in the morning, so it would have to be in the afternoon. Uh-huh, Next okay. Tuesday we have a meeting, Yeah. yeah. Exactly. That might be Where is the meeting? It's Unimail? Yeah. Okay, so, yeah yeah, then it could be At that nine thirty, but we could do we could That have this meeting yeah. then in the That afternoon. Okay. Nah? that would be great, because that would Mm-hmm. allow us not to move, or Very not well. to travel Yep. twice. So about two o'clock? Would Okay. that be okay? After Yeah, lunch. Yeah. after lunch. It's not Okay. a very demanding Right. meeting, Yep. so um Okay. Perfect. Um, then let James Shook close this. And uh good luck for your arrangement games. Thank you.

Chad Moore opened the meeting and described the layout of the new location the group might be moving to. Chad Moore answered questions regarding the number of people per office and whether a lounge was necessary. Chad Moore discussed constraints regarding furniture and equipment and addressed the issue that the group may not get the space they are after. The group then discussed how to arrange people within the proposed space. The group discussed grouping professors and their students together, grouping members of the same project together, the potential disturbance of phone calls to people sharing an office, physically splitting up offices for the sake of privacy by erecting walls, creating a meeting room for people of the same project to converge, how to accommodate visitors, where people can go to smoke, where to place Gisella, and how to allocate space to admin. The group also discussed the possibility of having a cafeteria and the locations of coffee machines.

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James Hong: Then press uh al Michael Hoban: Okay. James Hong: This. James Rainey: I don't James Hong: You James Rainey: know. James Hong: know? James Rainey: Just try. Michael Hoban: 'Kay. James Rainey: On James Hong: Oh oh. James Rainey: this normal Michael Hoban: Alt F_ five. James Rainey: Good. Doesn't appear on the screen here. James Hong: Right well James Rainey: Oh. James Hong: Wow. Amazing. It's working. James Rainey: Okay. Thank you. Uh. Trevor Simens: Hold that. James Rainey: Yes and you Trevor Simens: Okay. James Rainey: can put can clip it uh on your Somewhere. Trevor Simens: Okay. Mm. James Rainey: So, good morning, everyone. Um Welcome uh at the kick off meeting of our uh latest project. I hope you all have been uh updated about it. James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: Good. Michael Hoban: So. Yes. James Rainey: So w we will try to structure this uh meeting with an a with an agenda uh as presented here. Um after the opening we will tr get acquainted to each other. See what our roles are in this project. So, um We have been provided with uh some uh w technical tools to uh to communicate and to well, learn from each other's plans uh as I can say um so w we will also try to uh to get acquainted to this tools so they are also new to Trevor Simens I don't know whether you worked with them before. Um then we will come to the uh to the to the actual project plan. You all know I hope how it's about uh the uh new r remote control we are going going Michael Hoban: Total. James Rainey: to design. Uh then we will uh discuss uh, well, how it should be and uh wh what uh what our new product should look lite like. And uh well then uh after some twenty five minutes I hope uh we can end this meeting. So. Um basically this is about a uh a new c remote control. Um We When you design a new product you of uh you of course want it to be original. Be uh we want to be distinguished, mm? People uh want to uh when they look at the shelf want to think, well that's the product I I need. So it needs to be trendy. I mean trendy is what people want, so then I w they will buy our product. But then, uh, it also should work uh user friendly and uh otherwise people uh uh well it will not be uh be rated very well in consumer uh articles and like that. So, the general outline of uh new project will be we first uh go through a functional design phase. Um You all get uh um certain task uh in this uh in this phase and uh then we will meet again and uh discuss this functional design. And the same holds for the uh ph two phases uh after this, the conceptual design and after that a a more detailed design in which the the final project should get its definite shape. Alright, but first we will do some uh tool training. In all in front of you uh you see uh the uh notebooks and w uh n note blocks and we have here a a a a white-board. Michael Hoban: Whitebo Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: And um well it should work uh I've read it from my uh from some colleague that it should work with some kind of toolbar. I didn't find out yet how it work, but maybe one of you did, so Um James Hong: Under documents in the shared folder. Okay. James Rainey: Yes. Do Do we have to say something about that? I I I'm not fully updated about this shared folder uh. James Hong: Yeah, I guess we'll have a shared folder uh with documents that we can share. James Rainey: Yes James Hong: yeah. James Rainey: well we will then find out ho how it works. James Hong: Yes. James Rainey: Um. Well, this seems to Trevor Simens, yes, some computer program but I didn't find it yet. So, we'll come to that later. So, uh now we will try out the white-board we have here. So, I would suggest uh James Hong: Each of us is going. James Rainey: Well, yes, um we uh we should try to t to draw on it and then well it should be smart some way. I I'm not really sure how this works, but James Hong: Okay, shall I start? Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: Yeah, Trevor Simens: Yeah. Michael Hoban: you James Rainey: Yes, Michael Hoban: can start James Rainey: a good Michael Hoban: it James Rainey: idea Michael Hoban: you know. Trevor Simens: I think for us James Rainey: Mael. Trevor Simens: it's just like a normal whiteboard, but they'll be recording James Hong: So, Trevor Simens: what we James Hong: i Trevor Simens: write down. Michael Hoban: No they will record through that. There's a sensor over Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: there which is going to record Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: the strokes Trevor Simens: But Michael Hoban: that Trevor Simens: for Michael Hoban: you Trevor Simens: us James Rainey: Okay. Michael Hoban: make. Trevor Simens: it's just like a normal whiteboard. Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: 'Kay. James Hong: But it's Actually, I think I cannot go with uh James Rainey: You you D doesn't it work? Maybe someo Maybe maybe Anna, maybe Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: you can start. Then he can maybe find out to get his cord right. Trevor Simens: I have James Rainey: So Trevor Simens: to draw. James Rainey: um L Why don't you draw uh your favourite animal on on th on Trevor Simens: M James Rainey: the white-board. Trevor Simens: my my favourite animal. Sorry this is all tangled up here. James Rainey: Oh, I see uh Trevor Simens: That's better. Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: Yeah. Yes. Mm. So draw it. We will try to Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: guess what it is. Trevor Simens: I'm a very bad drawer. Weird. my drawing. I'm a bad drawer. Okay. James Rainey: Mm. Trevor Simens: They're Michael Hoban: 's a Trevor Simens: ears, Michael Hoban: cat. Trevor Simens: by the way. No. Um close though. Okay so like a pet animal. James Hong: Okay. Trevor Simens: Like a cat. Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: It's like a cat, so I guess it's a cat. Trevor Simens: No, not a cat though. James Rainey: What is this now? Michael Hoban: Ah you forget about it. James Hong: You're on the knife. Michael Hoban: Yeah, uh I think it's fine. I just don't want to carry it off. Man, this wires, eh? We need a wireless microphone. You know? Pro specially we should next project we should take l like that. James Rainey: So, Trevor Simens: Okay. So. James Rainey: that's Trevor Simens: It's James Rainey: the cat. Trevor Simens: not a James Rainey: Oh. Trevor Simens: cat, it's Michael Hoban: So. Trevor Simens: a dog. James Hong: Mael. James Rainey: It's a dog. Trevor Simens: Yes. James Rainey: So but that's also kind of Michael Hoban: Oh James Rainey: cat, Michael Hoban: the dog James Rainey: isn't Michael Hoban: doesn't James Rainey: it? Michael Hoban: have a tail? Trevor Simens: It's James Rainey: B Trevor Simens: got a tail then. James Rainey: bo Michael Hoban: Yeah, James Rainey: both predators. Michael Hoban: sure, yeah. Trevor Simens: Yeah yeah. Michael Hoban: I thought so. The dogs have a tail. James Rainey: So, thank Trevor Simens: So do James Rainey: you. Trevor Simens: cats. James Rainey: Uh d did you uh Trevor Simens: And you guessed cats James Rainey: work Trevor Simens: without James Rainey: out Trevor Simens: a James Rainey: cord? Trevor Simens: tail. Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Hong: Yeah, I think I will go without Trevor Simens: Okay. James Hong: without it, right? James Rainey: Okay. Michael Hoban: It'll still not extend, right? It's not up to that. Trevor Simens: Okay, there you go. So what favourite characteristics. Uh. Dogs are always friendly and loyal and fun. Trevor Simens: A horse? Michael Hoban: It's a horse. Trevor Simens: This is why you're the designer. And I'm marketing. James Rainey: Yes. Yes, yes this is Yes definitely a horse. Yes. Oh very good. So Trevor Simens: Ah James Rainey: I suppose Michael Hoban: Ah James Rainey: it Michael Hoban: I think you can put that. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. That's it. A blue and black zebra. James Rainey: Yes. Can you can meet them in Africa, I think. Yes. Very good. So Trevor Simens: The very rare blue zebras. Yes. Michael Hoban: I'll James Rainey: Ma Matthew? Michael Hoban: tell to get it off my Uh? Mm-hmm. James Rainey: So Trevor Simens: You got a lot James Rainey: Maybe Trevor Simens: of room here. You can probably reach. Michael Hoban: Oh y it's not for that. Trevor Simens: No? Michael Hoban: No. James Rainey: I hope you have some space in your uh the Michael Hoban: Okay. James Rainey: horse Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: of uh Mael. Michael Hoban: So what should I draw? Mm. He has already to do cat. Trevor Simens: I took a dog. Trevor Simens: Um. A mouse? James Rainey: This looks likes a cat who has been driven over. Trevor Simens: Okay. James Hong: Yeah. And we should sum up its favourite charas characteristics, right? Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Hong: So James Rainey: That's that's definitely a cat. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Hong: Uh yeah. And i Th They like to sleep, that's why you said you they are like this. Yeah. James Rainey: It's quite, you know relaxed situation. Yes. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: Yes, okay. James Hong: She has the small legs. James Rainey: Th thank you, Matthew. James Hong: Yeah. Thank you, Matthew. Trevor Simens: It's James Hong: Perfect. Trevor Simens: a very big rat. Or a very small James Hong: Oh Trevor Simens: cat. James Hong: a rat, okay. James Rainey: Yes, this is certain uh some contribution to our James Hong: And James Rainey: project. James Hong: you, Trevor Simens: Mm 'kay. Your turn. James Rainey: So. Let's see. Which animal has not been drawn yet. James Rainey: So you've all drawn land animals, so why not draw an animal from James Hong: A bird. James Rainey: the water. James Hong: Okay, in the water. Trevor Simens: Ah I don't know what that is. It's James Hong: Mm. Trevor Simens: a bit It's a bit hard to guess. James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: Mm. Michael Hoban: So James Hong: Put it colours. Maybe it would help Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Hong: us. James Rainey: Yes. Michael Hoban: The cat is going to eat the fish or James Hong: With Michael Hoban: the James Hong: different Michael Hoban: rat? James Hong: pen widths. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm James Rainey: So Trevor Simens: Oh, it's a shark now. James Hong: Ah it's a shark, yeah. James Rainey: Oh, yes, why not? Good idea. Michael Hoban: Ah it's a baby shark, it looks to Trevor Simens, you Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: know it's going to eat the cat rather than the cat eating the fish, James Hong: Oh. Michael Hoban: no? Trevor Simens: Now it's a swordfish. James Rainey: Why not. James Hong: You James Rainey: A swordfish. James Hong: have some in in Australia, right? Trevor Simens: Swordfish. James Hong: Yeah. Trevor Simens: Um, James Hong: I dunno. Trevor Simens: maybe. I've never James Hong: Oh Trevor Simens: seen James Hong: well. Trevor Simens: one, no. James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: I hope it still works. James Hong: Perfect. James Rainey: So James Hong: So I dunno if we need to spend time on that, actually But uh Michael Hoban: You should go for the James Rainey: W Michael Hoban: next James Rainey: Well, Michael Hoban: one James Rainey: this Michael Hoban: it seems to James Rainey: uh Michael Hoban: Trevor Simens. James Rainey: this tool seemed to work. James Hong: Yeah, Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Hong: exactly, James Rainey: Let's continue James Hong: yeah. James Rainey: to uh to James Hong: Wow. James Rainey: the real stuff. Um our project uh finance uh thing. Uh when we are and when w you are uh going to design w uh we must keep in mind that the selling price of the product uh will be about twenty five Euros, so when designing Michael Hoban: Twenty four. James Rainey: a project uh I also look at you uh Mael, James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: keep in mind uh uh uh People uh want to get the feeling this is a twenty five Euro project uh pr um James Hong: Per remote control, James Rainey: product. James Hong: yeah? Trevor Simens: Mm. James Hong: Per project. James Rainey: Yes. Okay. Um more interesting for our company of course, p uh profit aim, about fifty million Euro. So we have to sell uh quite a lot of this uh um things. Uh we will try to uh to get at a international market uh so um it will be I think mainly Europe and uh Northern America, Michael Hoban: Ah yeah, the sale man, James Rainey: maybe Michael Hoban: four James Rainey: some uh Michael Hoban: million. James Rainey: Asian countries. Um also important for you all is um the the product uh production cost must be maximal uh twelve uh twelve Euro James Hong: So it's James Rainey: and fifty cents. James Hong: half of the selling price, if I am good in James Rainey: Yes, James Hong: mathematics. James Rainey: of course. Uh um I mean we still have to uh to make a profit, huh? James Hong: Of Michael Hoban: They James Hong: course. Michael Hoban: have to sell Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: at least James Rainey: You Michael Hoban: four James Rainey: all Michael Hoban: million James Rainey: have to be paid. Michael Hoban: to make a profit Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: Ah James Rainey: Excuse Michael Hoban: we have James Rainey: Trevor Simens? Michael Hoban: to make we have to sell at least four million to make our own profit. James Hong: Oh Michael Hoban: Fifty James Hong: you're g very Michael Hoban: mill James Hong: good in mathematics. Trevor Simens: Yes. James Rainey: Yes, James Hong: Four James Rainey: indeed. James Hong: million. James Rainey: So uh James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: well I think w when we are working on the international market, uh in principle it has enough customers uh so when we have a good product we uh we could uh meet this this aim, I think. So, that about finance. And uh now just let have some discussion about what is a good remote control and uh well keep in mind this this first point, it has to be original, it has to be trendy, it has to be user friendly. Um, maybe someone can mention some additional uh prerequisites for Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: a good remote control. Michael Hoban: Of course it should have a on off button. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: Yes, well i it should have the the the the expected functionality Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: uh of a remote control. Trevor Simens: Yeah. Michael Hoban: Yeah, s and it depends what application you are using it for. Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: You might need uh James Rainey: We wer we were thinking television. Uh. Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: We are targ targeting the television set. So, Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: you need to record the channels. Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Rainey: Mm-hmm. Michael Hoban: You need to browse the browse the channels in upward James Rainey: Yes, Michael Hoban: downward Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: way, James Rainey: yes. Th th that's very handy I I always miss it and on Michael Hoban: Uh James Rainey: some remote controls that Michael Hoban: And James Rainey: you can go channel up or down ins instead of Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: retyping the number, especially Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: when you have a lot Michael Hoban: Uh, James Rainey: of channels. Michael Hoban: and James Hong: And uh just before starting the detailed discussion, maybe we You are the marketing guy? Or Trevor Simens: I'm marketing. James Hong: th Michael Hoban: Marketing. James Hong: So you are the marketing. Trevor Simens: Yep. James Hong: And you are in the u use user interface Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Hong: uh James Rainey: Yes. James Hong: design. So Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Hong: just yeah I wanted to to be sure. Michael Hoban: Sure. James Hong: And I I'm the James Hong Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Hong: okay. James Rainey: Yes. James Hong: Because I Michael Hoban: Oh. James Hong: I don't know you very well, actually, Michael Hoban: I'm James Hong: but Michael Hoban: Matthew. James Hong: yeah. Okay. Michael Hoban: You know. James Hong: Mael. Michael Hoban: Matth James Hong: Happy to meet you. Michael Hoban: s uh Trevor Simens: Anna. James Hong: Okay. Michael Hoban: Anna. James Hong: It's very Michael Hoban: And James Rainey: A and James Hong: uh James Rainey: I'm Nanne. Michael Hoban: um uh Matthew, yeah. I James Rainey: So Michael Hoban: thi James Hong: Uh Michael Hoban: think you know James Hong: so Michael Hoban: Trevor Simens, yeah? James Hong: yeah Michael Hoban: right James Rainey: Yes. Michael Hoban: yeah. James Hong: uh Just uh on your web page but uh yeah not uh James Rainey: So. Um James Hong: not face to face. James Rainey: S Michael Hoban: So. James Hong: So James Rainey: S James Hong: mm James Rainey: s Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: Are Michael Hoban: So James Hong: So James Rainey: there James Hong: I James Rainey: some other very important things to to do well, to specify in this first phase of of the project. So the browse function, Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: as you m Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Rainey: mentioned. Michael Hoban: And Trevor Simens: Oth Michael Hoban: uh, Trevor Simens: yeah. Michael Hoban: you'd need the usual ones, like the changing the volume, changing the the channel and then James Rainey: Yes. Michael Hoban: you James Rainey: Yeah. Michael Hoban: uh Today we have uh um teletext and all those things. Tomorrow you might have a some more functions which might come through that, James Rainey: Yes. Trevor Simens: Mm. James Hong: Like Michael Hoban: so James Hong: what? Like internet on Michael Hoban: Yeah James Hong: the Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: I_P_O_ James Hong: on Michael Hoban: or. James Hong: T_V_? Michael Hoban: Now we are looking for television things or I_P_. For James Hong: Yeah. Michael Hoban: example personal video recorder Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: and all those stuffs are coming up. Trevor Simens: But we can't really design Michael Hoban: Yeah. Trevor Simens: for something that hasn't been invented yet. Michael Hoban: Ah it's it's it's it's coming up, actually. The personal video recorder and all those James Rainey: Mm, Michael Hoban: things it is coming James Rainey: well Michael Hoban: up. James Rainey: uh I I think Uh James Hong: Actually, James Rainey: w James Hong: yeah Michael Hoban: Let's James Rainey: y James Hong: w Michael Hoban: Let's take James Rainey: you two should should, I think, think this over uh w espec what, what functionality. James Hong: Of course, and first before um designing the func well thinking about the functionalities, we need to know what are the user requirements. Trevor Simens: Mm. Yeah. James Hong: Um James Rainey: Mm-hmm. James Hong: then Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Hong: if they need internet, then we Trevor Simens: Mm. James Hong: would be able to to p to propose something Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Hong: with uh uh T_V_ over I_P_. But Trevor Simens: But James Hong: before Trevor Simens: Ninety percent of the time, ninety nine percent of the time, people will be using the main functions, the volume, the different channels, so we can have all the fancy things as well but the main controls need to be very obvious and very easy James Rainey: Mm Trevor Simens: to use. James Rainey: mm mm. Keep k keep in mind i it's a it's a twenty five Euro unit, so uh uh the the very fancy stuff uh w we can leave that out, I think. So Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: twenty five Euro you expect a quite, well normal but Trevor Simens: Mm. James Rainey: good functioning user friendly remote control. Michael Hoban: Oh in that case you can you always hook up with uh someone who is providing that and you know, you you sell their product as well as your product with them, Trevor Simens: Mm. Michael Hoban: you know. James Hong: Yeah, Trevor Simens: So James Hong: but Trevor Simens: try James Hong: w Trevor Simens: and James Hong: w Trevor Simens: get T_V_ James Hong: we Trevor Simens: manufacturers James Hong: want to design Trevor Simens: to James Hong: a new one. Michael Hoban: Yeah. No, it's okay, yeah I understand. James Hong: Mm. Michael Hoban: So we need James Hong: Yeah. Michael Hoban: some numbering buttons, some teletext things and then um James Hong: The Yeah, the main is James Rainey: Yes, but James Hong: browsing. James Rainey: but but ab James Hong: Yeah. James Rainey: about the spec the buttons, the Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: buttons uh that will be on it. I I think we can discuss that in the in the next meeting. Michael Hoban: Yeah. James Rainey: Uh I would like to get this wrapped up and go to an end of this meeting. Michael Hoban: Okay. James Rainey: So Michael Hoban: Okay, we are alread mm. James Hong: Okay. James Rainey: So Michael Hoban: Mm. James Rainey: you know now the basic the basic things. Michael Hoban: Yeah. Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: And well just Michael Hoban: L James Rainey: just for the next meeting, um well, uh, you wor yes, work on a design, keep it general, I mean so w we will be still fle flexible with maybe adding some functions. James Hong: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: So Um you will be working on on technical function design, so Michael Hoban: Yeah, sure. James Rainey: And uh you and you and uh uh uh well, think about requirements, eh? Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: Does it need internet, or or do do we stay at Michael Hoban: Stam. James Rainey: basic Trevor Simens: Yeah. James Rainey: basic television uh interface. So, uh I think we should now all go work uh uh at this and uh Trevor Simens: Mm-hmm. James Rainey: you will be informed via email and other kind of communication. Trevor Simens: Yeah. Michael Hoban: Okay. James Rainey: So James Hong: Perfect. James Rainey: next meeting will be in uh in thirty minutes uh. K keep it in mind.

The meeting begins with the group trying to resolve some equipment issues and waiting for Anna's arrival. Then James Rainey introduces the meeting by saying they have some technical tools with which to communicate so they will try to get acquainted with them first. He starts talking about the product they are to design, a remote control which should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The general outline of the project will be the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They do some tool training by trying out the whiteboard, and each person draws his/her favorite animal on it. James Rainey proceeds to talk about the project finance, which is followed by a group discussion about what functions a good remote control has. This includes the basics such as on/off, channel up/down browsing, volume and record button(s). At this point they clarify their names and roles in the group and then resume talking about remote control functions. They discuss some functions such as a personal video recorder, but say it is probable that they cannot produce a fancy device given their budget. James Rainey closes the meeting by telling each group member what he/she will be working on.

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Scott Godfrey: How do you wear this thing? Jeff Chen: Hmm. Mm mm mm. Scott Godfrey: Not many stuff. Scott Godfrey: Original. Jeff Chen: Is recorded? Okay? Okay so welcome everyone. So we are here for the kickoff meeting of uh the process of designing a new remote control. So I will first start with a warm welcome opening stuff, then uh we will uh see what will be uh our product and what will be the different step we will have to design it. And uh then we will uh discuss if we have few ideas and we will uh end uh by uh dispatching the different task you will be you will have to fulfil to complete this process. So Scott Godfrey: Uh. Just one thing. Uh, you said twenty-five minutes, but I have something else to do uh, so gotta have another meeting uh soon, so maybe you could hurry up a bit Jeff Chen: sorry? Scott Godfrey: It's true. I have another meeting so if you could uh Jeff Chen: You have another meeting soon? Scott Godfrey: Yeah. Jeff Chen: So you have to be quick. Scott Godfrey: Yeah, for the lawnmower project. Jeff Chen: Okay. Scott Godfrey: Okay. Jeff Chen: So the the goal is to have a remote control so to have an advantage over our competitors we have to be original, we have to be trendy and we have to also try to be user-friendly. So uh the design step will be divided in three uh main points. First it will be the functional design. Third is the conceptual design and then is the desired design. So the functional design is to identify the main user needs, the technical function the remote control should fulfil. And then we will move to f conceptual design where we'll specify the different component involved, what kind of user interf interface we want and what are the different uh trend in user interface and stuff like that. And then the desired devi design will consist in uh specifically implementing and detailing the choice we've uh made in the second point. So I will now ask you which is very important for the design of a new remote control for to uh each of us to to draw uh your favourite animal on the white board. Scott Godfrey: What an original idea. Jeff Chen: Do you have any idea of which animal you want to show us? Scott Godfrey: Orangutan. Jeff Chen: Okay that's good. Dane James: No no Jeff Chen: n Dane James: n Jeff Chen: n You Scott Godfrey: no? Jeff Chen: should Scott Godfrey: But I don't have to say anything. When I'm drawing the orangutan. Jeff Chen: If you want to react uh about this wonderful drawing uh I'll let you uh comment. Scott Godfrey: It's an abstract drawing of an orangutan. Jeff Chen: Okay it's an abstract drawing. Scott Godfrey: Yes. Jeff Chen: I think it's nice and original. Dane James: You y the name Scott Godfrey: I don't Dane James: I think. Scott Godfrey: have a red colour. Usually orangutans have red hair so this is a very important but I don't have red pen, so Jeff Chen: Okay. Scott Godfrey: Yes. Jeff Chen: You want to draw something Christine? James Wenzel: Okay uh sorry. You This Jeff Chen: Of course your animal is recorded so it's not lost. Scott Godfrey: Yes. I know. James Wenzel: Sorry too uh. Jeff Chen: Is Scott Godfrey: Wha Jeff Chen: this uh Scott Godfrey: what James Wenzel: Is it beautiful? Scott Godfrey: is this strange beast? Is it a monster? James Wenzel: Do you know? It's a cat. Scott Godfrey: It's a cat? James Wenzel: Isn't it? Scott Godfrey: I thought these things did not exist. James Wenzel: Yes Dane James: James Wenzel James Wenzel: yes is it like that. Is Dane James: Ah Scott Godfrey: Ah Dane James: yeah. James Wenzel: it better? Jeff Chen: Ah okay Scott Godfrey: yeah Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: it's pretty. James Wenzel: Okay. It's my cat. Jeff Chen: Okay it's your cat. Scott Godfrey: Does James Wenzel: Yeah. Scott Godfrey: have a name? James Wenzel: The name is Caramel. Scott Godfrey: Caramel. Dane James: Caramel. Scott Godfrey: Ah-ha. James Wenzel: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Okay. Olivier, Dane James: And you Jeff Chen: do you want to Dane James: I think I'm too short for the cables. Jeff Chen: Okay I go, but next time you'll do something I'm sure. Scott Godfrey: Next time I concentrate. Jeff Chen: I'm a bit short on cable. Okay. So what could I draw? Maybe I can draw like a very simplified cow. I don't know if it looks like a cow Scott Godfrey: He looks like a bong. Jeff Chen: Like a what? Scott Godfrey: Okay. Sorry. No. Dane James: Quite squarey. Scott Godfrey: Scary? Dane James: He also. Jeff Chen: I dunno it it looks more like a donkey in fact I would say. Dane James: Mm. Scott Godfrey: I I think we will Jeff Chen: Okay Scott Godfrey: be finished Jeff Chen: so Scott Godfrey: this uh Jeff Chen: I hope that it helps you uh in the process of designing Scott Godfrey: Is it Jeff Chen: a Scott Godfrey: for Jeff Chen: remote Scott Godfrey: uh Jeff Chen: control. Scott Godfrey: for putting a for logos, no. That's Jeff Chen: Okay. Let's move on. So Here the uh financial objective of our project. That is to say to to have a production cost lower than twelve point five Euros and have a selling price of twice that price t in order to target a profe profit of uh fifty uh million Euros. Scott Godfrey: I is there a matter for a new remote control? Jeff Chen: Yeah if it's trendy, original I d fulfil Scott Godfrey: Is it uh Jeff Chen: the user Scott Godfrey: a Jeff Chen: needs. Scott Godfrey: single device remote control or is it a multi-device remote control? Jeff Chen: We have to discuss that point. Scott Godfrey: Ah this is not Jeff Chen: On Scott Godfrey: defined at all? Jeff Chen: yeah you you can suggest points like Scott Godfrey: Ah, Jeff Chen: this. So Scott Godfrey: okay. Jeff Chen: what what so we have to decide for example if it can control one device or multiple. So what's what are your ideas about that? Maybe I can have the your opinion Scott Godfrey: Well uh Jeff Chen: from Scott Godfrey: do we sell Jeff Chen: the marketing Scott Godfrey: other stuff? Jeff Chen: side? Scott Godfrey: Uh if if we bundle the remote control with something uh to sell then it could be a single device, otherwise it could be programmable one otherwise who would buy a remote control from us. Jeff Chen: Okay, so if it selled uh by its own i it it would rather be for multiple device. Scott Godfrey: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Do you agree? Dane James: Mm-hmm. Jeff Chen: Yeah. So maybe it should be for multiple devices. And uh do you have any ideas um of uh design ideas or any uh uh technical requirement we we should uh fulfil? Dane James: I think we shouldn't have too many b for Scott Godfrey: No, Dane James: my part. Scott Godfrey: I Dane James: I Scott Godfrey: couldn Dane James: think Scott Godfrey: I cannot fi think of any requirements right now. Dane James: If we don't have so many buttons could be nice. Jeff Chen: Few buttons. Okay. And do you have it also to be to be lighted in order to be used in the dark? Might be a good idea. Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Okay. And do you have any um any uh idea of the trend the trend in domain, what it shouldn't it should look like, or things like that? Scott Godfrey: Mm. Jeff Chen: With rou okay. Like for okay. Scott Godfrey: Something like that, least fits in your hand. Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Okay. Scott Godfrey: Yeah. The basic requirement. Jeff Chen: So. Fit in your hand, yeah. Scott Godfrey: Only a buck. Jeff Chen: And also it have, i it may be it may be important for the remote control to be uh To, to resist to various shocks Dane James: Mm-hmm. Jeff Chen: that can happen Scott Godfrey: Waterproof. Jeff Chen: if it fall. Water-proof as well. Dane James: And I Jeff Chen: Maybe Dane James: think we Jeff Chen: it Dane James: should Jeff Chen: is original Dane James: have a device Jeff Chen: because you can uh use it in your uh in your bath whereas the others can't. Maybe water-proof would be very original. Dane James: Sorry. Jeff Chen: Havin having a water-proof remote control so that the people can uh use it in their bath. Scott Godfrey: Mm. Jeff Chen: That could Scott Godfrey: B it Jeff Chen: be Scott Godfrey: seems Jeff Chen: uh Scott Godfrey: uh so, but uh if you don't have an waterproof remote control it means you can just cover it with some plastic and you can sort of Jeff Chen: Yeah Scott Godfrey: f Jeff Chen: but, it is still something uh you have to buy and that is um Scott Godfrey: And, and Jeff Chen: not Scott Godfrey: that's one Jeff Chen: maybe Scott Godfrey: of the Jeff Chen: very Scott Godfrey: that's one of the shock I mean there are people that have a remote control and they are worried that it's going to break and they put some extra plastic around it. Jeff Chen: Yeah, Scott Godfrey: That's Jeff Chen: mayb Scott Godfrey: people they actually Jeff Chen: B Scott Godfrey: do it themselves. Jeff Chen: But maybe we can bulk it with uh already this plastic thing Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: and uh the waterproof Dane James: directly. Jeff Chen: uh Scott Godfrey: I it Jeff Chen: stuff Scott Godfrey: will look Jeff Chen: as Scott Godfrey: a Jeff Chen: well. Scott Godfrey: bulky in that case. Jeff Chen: Yeah. Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Maybe we can sell uh all that together, so so plastic protection and uh and a waterproof box as well. That might be good uh track to follow. Scott Godfrey: Like as an optional thing. Jeff Chen: Optional or selled Dane James: And I I think we Jeff Chen: with Dane James: should Jeff Chen: it? Dane James: have something, most of the time I I lose my remote control. We should have Jeff Chen: Yeah. Dane James: s uh special bu button on the T_V_ Jeff Chen: Maybe we Dane James: to Jeff Chen: can Dane James: make Jeff Chen: have uh Dane James: the remote control beeping. Jeff Chen: But we don't design the T_V_. Dane James: Ah Jeff Chen: Maybe we Dane James: yeah. Jeff Chen: can have uh something you whistle and uh the remote control uh beep. Dane James: Yeah. Scott Godfrey: Barks. Jeff Chen: Yeah, Dane James: Barks. Jeff Chen: barks, yeah. So we can uh have a whistle uh remote control? Dane James: Yeah. Yeah whistle. Jeff Chen: I don't know, whistle-able? Dane James: Whistle Jeff Chen: Th Dane James: tracking. Jeff Chen: Whistle tracking yeah. Whistle tracking remote control. That's a good idea, that's very original and that's can Scott Godfrey: That's that's Jeff Chen: uh improve. Scott Godfrey: quite cool, but uh of course we you don't normally need uh any audio uh recording stuff on your remote control right? Jeff Chen: Yeah d d Scott Godfrey: So Jeff Chen: uh. Scott Godfrey: i it's just going to add t to the cost. Jeff Chen: Yeah but s still we have to mm we have to have an advantage over our competitors. I think this is a good advantage. Scott Godfrey: It's cool. I think I like the idea, but I'm not sure about the what you, who Jeff Chen: Yeah. Scott Godfrey: is giving who's Jeff Chen: We have Scott Godfrey: giving Jeff Chen: to Scott Godfrey: who's Jeff Chen: ask Scott Godfrey: giving our budget. Who's Jeff Chen: Yeah. We have to ask the quest of Scott Godfrey: Yeah. Jeff Chen: that's uh design to Scott Godfrey: Yeah. Jeff Chen: the uh Industrial um Designer. Dane James: Yeah. Jeff Chen: Which is Scott Godfrey: 'Kay. Jeff Chen: you. Dane James: yeah Jeff Chen: Okay so try to find that for next meeting. Dane James: Okay. Jeff Chen: Okay. So next meeting is in thirty minutes or so uh. Dane James: Don't panic. Jeff Chen: Don't pani. So so I will ask Dane James to find out more about this industrial design Dane James: Mm-hmm. Jeff Chen: so any working any working function we have discussed. So then I will ask the User Interf Interface Designer to to think about the point we discussed like the number of buttons, the the fact that is lighted or not, things like that, and Scott Godfrey: Mm-hmm. Jeff Chen: what would be convenient for the user. And also um I will ask the Market Expert to uh try to find out what are the absolute requirements, what is absolutely needed in a remote control uh for the user. So. And then uh I will uh just ask you to think about that and uh look at your mail because you will receive uh some good advice soon. Scott Godfrey: Mm. Jeff Chen: So. Thank you I think that's Scott Godfrey: Good. Dane James: Mm-hmm. Jeff Chen: all for this point. James Wenzel: Thank you Scott Godfrey: Uh, so we come back in five minutes? Half an hour. Jeff Chen: Anyway you will receive some messages. Jeff Chen: Be careful. You eat it? Does it move uh? Okay, but I don't know if it uh is still correctly uh We'll see. Dane James: Ah.

Jeff Chen introduced the project to the group and gave a timeline for the project. The group trained themselves to use the meeting room tools by drawing on the whiteboard. Jeff Chen presented the project budget and the projected price point and profit goals. The group discussed several of their initial ideas for the features of the product. They discussed making the remote able to control multiple devices, protection from water or from dropping the remote, and a locator function. Jeff Chen then instructed Scott Godfrey to research users' requirements, and instructed the Industrial and User Interface Designers to research the functions and usability features that were discussed in the meeting.

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Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: Okay everyone's ready. Kyle Felton: Hello. Eugene Arnone: So we are here uh for uh functional design. Okay? So we are here for the functional design meeting mm so first I will show the agenda so we will uh I will take notes during this meeting so I will try to summarise it and put that summary in the shared folder if you want to look at it afterwards so then uh each of you will uh lead a presentation on the task that has been required last time so user requirement specification, technical design and Then I will uh present you some new project requirements I received from uh the management board. Then we will take uh the decision on on the remote control uh needed functions and then I will assign you the task for the next part of the meeting. Of the of the process. So uh who want to start the the presentation of what they did? Willie Wooden: F do you want to start Kyle Felton: Make a start yeah. Eugene Arnone: You can start. Kyle Felton: So Cable, camera. Eugene Arnone: You have uh PowerPoint? Kyle Felton: Should be in my in their folder no? Eugene Arnone: Ah yeah maybe there. Kyle Felton: Up. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Who are you? Kyle Felton: Um at three I think. No? Mm. Eugene Arnone: Ouch. And Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: We have a technical problem uh. Kyle Felton: Do we think w s in the in the wrong folder maybe? It is possible. Eugene Arnone: You put Willie Wooden: No. Eugene Arnone: it on Kyle Felton: It was somewhere in something like this. I don't remember the name actually must be something like messenger AMI or something. Willie Wooden: What do you have in short cut? Kyle Felton: Go up. Willie Wooden: Participant two. Kyle Felton: Yeah go up. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Again. No. Go back. Eugene Arnone: You have no Kyle Felton: Uh maybe messenger Messenger. Eugene Arnone: Over. Okay. Kyle Felton: No. There is nothing. Eugene Arnone: There's no We have a Kyle Felton: Let's Eugene Arnone: technical Kyle Felton: go and check. Eugene Arnone: problem. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: I'll Willie Wooden: Otherwise, Kyle Felton: go and check. Willie Wooden: could you just describe by hand? Kyle Felton: Okay. Willie Wooden: With the the whiteboard? Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: If you remember yeah Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: but Kyle Felton: So Eugene Arnone: that's Kyle Felton: uh. Basically what we want here is a remote control right. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: So um the question well first of all what to control. So most people want to have a a remote for their hi-fi and T_V_ and stuff like that. Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: And but other people want th also remotes for controlling uh and toys like robotic pets and Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: little robots and stuff and other people also want to have remotes for controlling um whole house. Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Yeah, so there's a project I think called X_ house or something like that that does that, uh you can integrate your remote with uh computers stuff. Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: So there is one that is one thing. The other is the the finder feature yeah by whistling or whatever. Uh Willie Wooden: Okay. Kyle Felton: if you have the finder feature then you can also have uh at the same time as and general voice commands if you want yeah. Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: So I think it should be a package in that case. Uh so the user interface will consist of two parts. One is the voice command part and on one is the actual buttons part. Uh and th the buttons part would be uh a set of buttons for choosing devices, Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: a set of buttons for special navigation in space, Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: a set of buttons for linear access of medium and a set of buttons for random access. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: Yeah? Willie Wooden: What do you mean by linear access then? Kyle Felton: Like a video tape goes forward, backwards, Willie Wooden: Ah. Kyle Felton: uh fast and stuff yeah. Um. Eugene Arnone: Okay so special navigation, linear access, random access and there's a fourth one no? Kyle Felton: Mm? Eugene Arnone: So the better now for special navigation? Kyle Felton: Yeah. For special navigation for example you might have a T_V_ in the menu and you going to Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: change yeah? Eugene Arnone: Then linear Kyle Felton: Uh. Eugene Arnone: access then Kyle Felton: Mm. Eugene Arnone: random access. Kyle Felton: Yeah and also parameter Eugene Arnone: Ah yeah Kyle Felton: changing. Eugene Arnone: parameter okay. Kyle Felton: So if there are common parameters maybe we should put special buttons for that Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: um or maybe we could have everything uh generic but uh there are a lot of uh remotes on the market right now Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: and basically this is most of the almost everybody has this stuff. Eugene Arnone: Okay and and voice command did you uh Kyle Felton: Voice command w we could specify anything. We could assign Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: any button a command to any button, Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: if we have enough processing power, I guess so. Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: So that's uh that close your investigations? Kyle Felton: Yeah. Uh Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: yeah I think so. Not so far. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Maybe we can have a look at the user requirements with Steven Keller: Yeah. Um I dunno if you open Eugene Arnone: I dunno if Steven Keller: the Eugene Arnone: I can open Steven Keller: uh Eugene Arnone: it. Maybe you Steven Keller: m Eugene Arnone: can Steven Keller: is Eugene Arnone: s Steven Keller: not here. Eugene Arnone: It's Steven Keller: Uh in yeah okay. Eugene Arnone: Messenger Steven Keller: No. Eugene Arnone: no? Steven Keller: In document. Mm computer yeah. Eugene Arnone: In which folder? Kyle Felton: Where did you put it? Steven Keller: Here. Here. Eugene Arnone: Short-cut to Kyle Felton: mm. Eugene Arnone: AMI Steven Keller: But it's Eugene Arnone: shared Steven Keller: not Eugene Arnone: folder? Steven Keller: Um. Eugene Arnone: Maybe you can send it to Steven Keller by email. Just to participant one. At AMI. Steven Keller: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can do that. Eugene Arnone: I will try to show it to everyone, that would be more comfortable. Steven Keller: Okay. Um. Eugene Arnone: You send it? Steven Keller: It's participant one? Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Uh this is this email. Kyle Felton: I'm designing the user interface. Steven Keller: Okay. You can uh. Eugene Arnone: Okay. So maybe I can switch slides when you Steven Keller: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: whenever you ask, that will be more convenient. So okay, Steven Keller: Okay Eugene Arnone: functional Steven Keller: so Eugene Arnone: requirements. Steven Keller: you can you can go. Okay so in our usability lab we observed the remote control use among one hundred subjects Eugene Arnone: Mm. Yeah. Steven Keller: okay? And here I have the results so you can see that um seventy five per cent of users find most remote controls ugly so we have to find something to make them more more nice, more kind. Eighty per cents of users would spend more money when the remote control would look fancy. Eighty hundred per cent of users would spend more money when the remote control would look oh to it's not good. So okay. So Eugene Arnone: We Steven Keller: it's Eugene Arnone: can Steven Keller: not Eugene Arnone: just Steven Keller: in Eugene Arnone: keep Steven Keller: theory Eugene Arnone: doing Steven Keller: but Eugene Arnone: that? Steven Keller: I I can I can say yeah. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: Fifty f uh seventy five per cent of users say they s zap a lot. So mm we have to have a remote control uh very um out for that. Uh the buttons have are to be um uh uh like you say resist resisting to to shocks. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: Um and fifty per cents of users say they only use uh ten per cents of but of the buttons in the Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: in the remote control. So all the buttons we we have to put are have to to have um a use a real use and not Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: only or Eugene Arnone: Okay, so fewer buttons maybe Steven Keller: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: would be Steven Keller: F Eugene Arnone: good? Steven Keller: not many buttons, and uh and uh uh u useable buttons. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: But what kind of remote controls did you look at? Steven Keller: Sorry? Kyle Felton: What kind of task was it? It was a T_V_? Steven Keller: Yeah. Uh Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: most for most is T_V_. Eugene Arnone: Yeah but in fact we it it seems that we are going to make a T_V_ remote control according Kyle Felton: Huh. Eugene Arnone: to new requirements I received from the management Kyle Felton: Uh-huh. Eugene Arnone: bo I will present them in the following. Kyle Felton: Ah! Good. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: 'Kay you can go so. So there are other frustrations expressed by users, so they said uh they lost uh often the remote control in in the Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: room so they want to have a way to to Eugene Arnone: To find Steven Keller: to Eugene Arnone: it. Steven Keller: find it. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: Um and um lot of the time they it takes too much time to learn how to use Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: a new remote control. So they want something s Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: really very simple and uh Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: easy to use. And uh remote controls are bad for Eugene Arnone: What Steven Keller: R_S_I_ Eugene Arnone: is her other side? Steven Keller: um I Kyle Felton: Other Steven Keller: dunno. Kyle Felton: side yeah, yo wa your wrist. It i can become painful you can have tendonditis. Eugene Arnone: Oh yeah? Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: I did not knew that. Kyle Felton: If you also up on a computer in a strange position. Eugene Arnone: Okay so you we have to make it uh more Kyle Felton: Ergonomic. Eugene Arnone: ergonomic yeah. Kyle Felton: But uh. Have Steven Keller: Yeah. Kyle Felton: to say ha ha. Eugene Arnone: It's your job Oh. Steven Keller: Uh. Eugene Arnone: Uh sorry got a message from Microsoft. Steven Keller: Okay um before that I I have some some some thing Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: uh to say before Eugene Arnone: Yeah yeah. Steven Keller: um We know that uh the user use uh a lot their um remote control um to to change channel. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: Um and um to to change uh volume selection of Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: the and uh and not uh a lot for setting for Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: setting the the channels and uh Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: thing things like that. Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: So it's better to put uh uh uh something very easy to set and uh Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: and Eugene Arnone: This function should be very Steven Keller: Very Eugene Arnone: uh accessible. Steven Keller: accessible yes. Eugene Arnone: Yeah, okay. Steven Keller: That's right. Eugene Arnone: This is the main function okay. Steven Keller: So then we asked some questions to them and Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: um we asked this question if Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: they prefer an L_C_D_ screen or on their remultific function remotes control and if they mm pay more for speech recognition in remote control Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: and you can go we have here the results of Kyle Felton: The first question. Steven Keller: of the questions. So you know that um for the younger it's very important Eugene Arnone: To have L_C_D_ Steven Keller: to have Eugene Arnone: and Steven Keller: the Eugene Arnone: voice. Steven Keller: s yes and speech recognition. And uh and the others is not so important but uh we know that uh uh people between fifteen and twenty five are people who watch a lot T_V_ and uh who who wh can use a lot this uh. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: So maybe we we can have a speech Eugene Arnone: Yeah maybe Steven Keller: recognition Eugene Arnone: this this Steven Keller: in. Eugene Arnone: is important. Steven Keller: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Moreover th maybe those uh like those teenager customer could advice their parents to buy this equipment and Kyle Felton: Mm. Eugene Arnone: so we can we have to take care of that point of view I think or so. Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: Okay and if there is th the conclusion now. So as we say before, I think uh um a remote control lightening in the dark it's it's a good thing. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: Uh not to many mud buttons like we we said before, e Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Steven Keller: easy to use uh a way to find it easily in the room and uh uh resistant to to shock and to Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: to Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: An I s no, Eugene Arnone: Okay Steven Keller: yeah. Eugene Arnone: these are the user Steven Keller: I dunno Eugene Arnone: requi Steven Keller: if you see something else important or Willie Wooden: I'm just thinking of some thing. Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Willie Wooden: Um We want to have a no, I know if a idea. We want to have a a general remote control for everything. Eugene Arnone: No no no. We w it seems that we no want to have a T_V_ remote control. Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: From Kyle Felton: Mm. Eugene Arnone: the management board I receive Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: an email. Cos it would be costly uh and and also it it would take more time to develop to Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: have Willie Wooden: Yeah Eugene Arnone: a Willie Wooden: yeah. Eugene Arnone: a general generic remote Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: control. Kyle Felton: Mm I it's not true I think. The Willie Wooden: No no. Kyle Felton: the second claim that you put. Eugene Arnone: That it would be too long to Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: develop. Kyle Felton: I think that should be the same. Eugene Arnone: Oh yeah. Because I received that email from management board and they seems to tell that that if we want to be on the market as early as possible we should uh focus on T_V_ more where it seems that the market is more important. So maybe it's a good decision. I dunno. What's your Kyle Felton: I have Eugene Arnone: opinion? Kyle Felton: uh I've no idea I mean I should know a bit more about how fast we can uh design it. I don't think Uh yeah. Willie Wooden: Finish tonight. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Okay. Willie Wooden: But basically yeah Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: maybe I can continue with my presentation, it would be Eugene Arnone: Okay. Willie Wooden: al Steven Keller: Yeah. Willie Wooden: you Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: you but I think we have some technical problem or so. So I'm just going to describe briefly what we do in the remote control. Eugene Arnone: Maybe Willie Wooden: If Eugene Arnone: you can Willie Wooden: fact Eugene Arnone: go to the whiteboard if you have some drawings to do I Willie Wooden: Yeah Eugene Arnone: don't Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: know. Willie Wooden: but Do I have oh yeah. Now I have enough cables. Kyle Felton: Like a you feel a bit like a dog with this stuff. Willie Wooden: Okay so I'm just going to describe in fact for for a remote control this is quite easy. We just have sorry, I'm going Eugene Arnone: Okay. Are you okay? Willie Wooden: Like that. I'm just going to describe. Basically we have a a battery a power supply here. After that we just have um user interface. Let's say that um something like that, which could be um a L_C_D_ let's say or um an array of push button, something like that. Push button or a L_C_D_. After that we we feed that into um uh an electronic chip. So I say U_C_ and I feed that to uh L_E_D_ which is uh infrared um which is a an infrared um component. And so what we for for myself this for for us this is quite easy. Eugene Arnone: U_C_ is the central unit? Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Okay Willie Wooden: Y Eugene Arnone: yeah. Willie Wooden: it's a it's this just a chip which does all the um numerical Eugene Arnone: Computation. Willie Wooden: numerical computation Eugene Arnone: Okay. Willie Wooden: according to your display. And so for us uh this is quite easy. We just need to take to define what we want to do when the user interface um wants something and after that we just do the coding to s and send that to to to the not the to the television. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Willie Wooden: So for us this is quite easy. Eugene Arnone: Okay so this is quite easy. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Um Eugene Arnone: There is not that much Willie Wooden: we just Eugene Arnone: constraints. Willie Wooden: have to define the processing power that we need uh especially if we want to do some uh speech recognition, in that case that mean that we are going to use more Kyle Felton: This Willie Wooden: for simple Kyle Felton: will think this will take more time to develop Willie Wooden: Yeah Kyle Felton: also. Willie Wooden: of course of Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: course. And um but for a standard one this is really easy. It's a question of one Kyle Felton: Soon. Willie Wooden: month and so Eugene Arnone: To Willie Wooden: on Eugene Arnone: have a Willie Wooden: s Eugene Arnone: you s you speak about with voi voice control? Willie Wooden: No no no no, I say Eugene Arnone: Standard button one. Willie Wooden: yeah standard uh standard remote control takes maybe uh one month to to do that. Kyle Felton: Yeah. So the only time problem is the sp voice recognition. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: Definitely. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: So do you have any idea of how long it would take to have voice recognition now? Willie Wooden: I would say. Kyle Felton: Ten years. Willie Wooden: I would say uh about eight months to have the first results. Eugene Arnone: Okay so i it's a bit long yeah. Willie Wooden: Yeah. I can Um. Eugene Arnone: One month for the standard one with button. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Even if we have a L_C_D_ display? Willie Wooden: Yeah even. I mean that this is really standard devices now. Um eight. For uh speech recognition. Eugene Arnone: Okay yeah. Okay so we can take this into account. So who think it would be good to go for uh like speech recognition? Kyle Felton: But we don't have time to market. Willie Wooden: And also Eugene Arnone: Yeah it Willie Wooden: how Eugene Arnone: will. Willie Wooden: much uh I think Kyle Felton: I think we should contact Willie Wooden: during Kyle Felton: management. Willie Wooden: the kickoff meeting you say that we we shouldn't we shouldn't go up to twelve point five Euro Eugene Arnone: Euros. Willie Wooden: per Eugene Arnone: Yeah, Willie Wooden: unit Eugene Arnone: yeah. Willie Wooden: so how many units should we sell to have a Kyle Felton: Well. Eugene Arnone: Well Kyle Felton: Uh Eugene Arnone: each unit is is sell uh twenty five Euros. Willie Wooden: Yeah but how many yeah. Kyle Felton: How muc how much do you get how much do you if you buy one million units h no, one hundred thousand units. Eh chips. We're gonna need chips right. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Yeah. How much will it cost for one hundred thousand? Willie Wooden: Usually this is less tha at two dollars per chip. Kyle Felton: Okay. Eugene Arnone: Because Kyle Felton: So Eugene Arnone: we Kyle Felton: you Eugene Arnone: are Kyle Felton: have any idea for a powerful one that has uh good enough for do speech recognition. Willie Wooden: Yeah, Kyle Felton: Yeah? Okay. Willie Wooden: we can Kyle Felton: So. No Eugene Arnone: It Kyle Felton: it Eugene Arnone: seems Kyle Felton: doesn't. Eugene Arnone: that that we want to sell like four million units from the Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: first meeting. Kyle Felton: Okay. Four million. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: Mm. Willie Wooden: Um I just had a question uh do you want to continue with your presenta? Eugene Arnone: Yeah Willie Wooden: Is Eugene Arnone: I Willie Wooden: it Eugene Arnone: I will continue. Well ask your question if you want. Willie Wooden: Um you say that I don't remember by heart but thirty per cent Steven Keller: Mm? Willie Wooden: of the tested people say that's it's quite difficult to to to use the remote control. Steven Keller: Yeah. Willie Wooden: Do they say that this is difficult but for the same reason or do they have other reason? Steven Keller: Oh. Willie Wooden: To to Steven Keller: Would j Willie Wooden: maybe to keep in mind maybe to access to that menu you should do something like Steven Keller: Uh Willie Wooden: that. Steven Keller: yeah w I I think they they say that it's uh difficult to learn how to use it Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: but i when you know how to use it, Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: it's it's Eugene Arnone: Okay. Steven Keller: okay. Willie Wooden: And Steven Keller: But Eugene Arnone: It's not intuitive first. Steven Keller: Yeah. Willie Wooden: But yeah maybe and what about if we design a remote control which can be configure as you want? You say that I want, I have six Kyle Felton: Mh-hmm. Willie Wooden: button Kyle Felton: A a lot of people are uh if you have the L_C_D_ screen Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: if you can Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: do it completely the way you want because the buttons also look Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: the way Eugene Arnone: But, Kyle Felton: you want them Eugene Arnone: but also Kyle Felton: but Eugene Arnone: it seems Kyle Felton: it will be Eugene Arnone: that Kyle Felton: hard to configure I mean imagine Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: i uh so it's really something for the expert user. Willie Wooden: Okay. Kyle Felton: So I mean there are markets and markets. I think the young people are th uh are uh Christine here said uh Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: you have a Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: uh it is yeah. So for our young people uh it will be cool, they can be able to use it. Th maybe their parents will not but they will configure it. I guess. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: Maybe it would be more complex to Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: configure it Willie Wooden: Yeah. Yeah. Eugene Arnone: to be simple Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Mm. Eugene Arnone: than Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: creating a simple product. Kyle Felton: And there Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: are another thing is that if we make something that's simple and easy to use that's bas to use immediately that means that it will be exactly the same as everything else. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: All right? Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Otherwise, if it's different then of course everybody has somebody has to learn to use it first. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. But also we we see that that most people find it find remote controls too complex because they have too many buttons and they mainly use only channels Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: and Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: volume buttons. So we may just uh make a very easy to use remote control with mainly those buttons Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: and maybe also um some lightning stuff too because most people find also hard to to find the remote control. Losed Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: lose it etcetera. These these are these two points are the main frustrations so maybe if we design something very simple and easy to uh find when lost it will uh add uh a serious competitive advantage without Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: making something too complex and too long to develop. Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: So but le let us see first the new requirement. So we don't have to so this this uh is uh is um in the this is in the same direction as we were speaking so we don't have to make a very complex remote controls to access teletext and stuff like that Kyle Felton: But teletext is just one button. Eugene Arnone: Yeah but then you have to you have to define the buttons to surf Kyle Felton: You Eugene Arnone: amongst Kyle Felton: you Eugene Arnone: pages Kyle Felton: just write Eugene Arnone: and stuff. Kyle Felton: the write the numbers. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. So Kyle Felton: So will Eugene Arnone: well Kyle Felton: you add with the channel keys, right? Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: So. Eugene Arnone: So anyway we don't have to include this feature because it's it's not used any more by users, they prefer to s Kyle Felton: I am. I'm sure that uh it don't like but uh I don't see just one button. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: So. Eugene Arnone: I dunno. If i one button is still one more button. If if if we want to make it very simple we have to reduce number of buttons compared to th to our competitors. Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: Well anyway I have this point. We can discuss. Also um so as as I told before uh it would be better if it's only for the T_V_ um because we want to be quick on on the market. And then also we have to make very uh uh clear that this uh this remote control is is part of of our products and show our corporate uh logo and and colours on the on the design as well so that uh they identify it as one of our product. So this is the the key point. So before uh finishing we can uh define uh what would be the characteristic of the o th of the control of the remote control and which button do we need which function do we want etcetera. Kyle Felton: Capital. Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: So do you um so so from from the Steven Keller I think a key aspect is the easy to use aspect, it should be Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: very simple and most button are never used only ten per cent of the button are are used often so I think we have to do something very simple and I think we all agree on that point, Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: no? Steven Keller: Mm. Kyle Felton: Well if it is going to be just a T_V_ remote control it is going to be very simple. Eugene Arnone: Yeah okay. So yeah the key point here is simple. Maybe. So few buttons, channel, volume control and what el what function do you see Kyle Felton: Well if it's Eugene Arnone: in addition Kyle Felton: going to Eugene Arnone: to Kyle Felton: be Eugene Arnone: that? Kyle Felton: as simple as possible then just have the remote control, there is no other function that I can see really. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Maybe switch T_V_ on and off Kyle Felton: Uh no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can revenue can come back to us. Or Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: something. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Volume, maybe a mute button, and then Willie Wooden: Mm. Eugene Arnone: on off button. And that's all? Willie Wooden: Uh I know that som you say that many people are doing plenty of a lot of zapping. Steven Keller: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: Mm. Willie Wooden: I know tha I discovered that when I did a quick look, uh they do now som they do something which is quite nice now, Kyle Felton: It's Willie Wooden: you have a Kyle Felton: a Willie Wooden: button, Kyle Felton: memory, Willie Wooden: you Kyle Felton: yeah. Willie Wooden: you press it, and this is uh the previous channel which Eugene Arnone: Okay. Willie Wooden: has come back. Eugene Arnone: Yeah this is cool. Maybe we can include that also. Previous previous channel button. So we have like channel button, the previous channel button, the Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: volume button, plus a mute button, Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: and uh just the the traditional on off Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: button. Kyle Felton: And uh and of course the channel changing buttons. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. I I talk Kyle Felton: How Eugene Arnone: about that, Kyle Felton: should they Eugene Arnone: yeah? Kyle Felton: how should we implement that? Because uh could be numerical only or could be also incremental. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Incremental definitely because zapping you you switch Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: them. Willie Wooden: Let's say that we can do something like that. This is uh incremental, but once you press it for a long time, you go five by five. Eugene Arnone: We go Willie Wooden: To Eugene Arnone: faster? Willie Wooden: go fa to go faster. Eugene Arnone: Mm. Kyle Felton: Mm. It's an interesting idea, that if you press it for a long time it does something else, in general. So if you you have your ten buttons for the for the numeric the numerical buttons and you have instead of having just one memory Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: you have if you press them for a long time No. Doesn't work does it. Eugene Arnone: Maybe we should have also a digit Kyle Felton: Maybe Eugene Arnone: button Kyle Felton: we should have a complete keyboard and just type console commands. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Change channel to eight. No. Eugene Arnone: Maybe we have also to have digits or only incremental. I dunno bec because Kyle Felton: Well Eugene Arnone: if Kyle Felton: if Eugene Arnone: you Kyle Felton: it's Eugene Arnone: have the Kyle Felton: useful like if if you want to change between three channels for example then you h Eugene Arnone: Uh. Kyle Felton: you cannot you cannot cannot work with just memory being incremental. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Because you have your previous channel button if you have incremental only it's Willie Wooden: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: not uh it isn't worth it because the previous channel is eith either minus one or plus one. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Yeah. Eugene Arnone: So I think we need also digits. Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: Maybe we we can make very obvious the channel and volume button button and smaller button down there with the the digits. Kyle Felton: Yeah when you zap usually you will have to press the same button all the time Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: and Willie Wooden: Or we can do something like that. We can Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: design the remote control to have access. You know some remote control have uh protection Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Willie Wooden: and so you you y Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Hey Willie Wooden: You Kyle Felton: I just thought this thing there is a I mean you know there is are some with a wheel like this. Instead of having the up down buttons for Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: uh Willie Wooden: Yeah, Kyle Felton: you can have Willie Wooden: a kind Kyle Felton: the wheel. Willie Wooden: of joystick. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Maybe we can have a wheel for incremental. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: Okay. So have a wheel for incremental, have the digits uh on the lower side that can be closed so as Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: you say protected, Kyle Felton: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: and uh yeah I think this is Kyle Felton: On Eugene Arnone: the Kyle Felton: the lower Eugene Arnone: basi Kyle Felton: side I think it you have to turn it. No? Eugene Arnone: And do Kyle Felton: If Eugene Arnone: we Kyle Felton: we do Eugene Arnone: do Kyle Felton: that. Eugene Arnone: we have a Willie Wooden: Or a or a ball, yeah, not a a wheel but a ball, and you say uh Eugene Arnone: No, a wheel is Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: to Eugene Arnone: better. I would say the wheel is better. Kyle Felton: Because Eugene Arnone: What Kyle Felton: of Eugene Arnone: is Kyle Felton: that Eugene Arnone: the expert of uh Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Because it's uh it's it's not like a volume which is smooth yeah? The channels change one by one. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: So you have to the user has to like to should feel the the Willie Wooden: Yeah, Kyle Felton: the discrete Willie Wooden: the yeah. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: sense a bit. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: That's a good idea. Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote Willie Wooden: 'S quite Eugene Arnone: control. Willie Wooden: it's quite easy we do Eugene Arnone: Okay. Willie Wooden: that w with back light on Kyle Felton: Yeah. Willie Wooden: the Kyle Felton: Even Willie Wooden: on Kyle Felton: if Willie Wooden: the Kyle Felton: i Willie Wooden: wheel. Kyle Felton: L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ Willie Wooden: A blue Kyle Felton: feature uh Willie Wooden: a blue L_E_D_ Kyle Felton: whatever, Willie Wooden: and Kyle Felton: yeah. Eugene Arnone: Yeah, Willie Wooden: we sell that Eugene Arnone: and Willie Wooden: um. Eugene Arnone: do we put Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: an L_C_D_ display? Because it was important for young customers if you remember. Kyle Felton: I think it's only put on if cou have multi function. Willie Wooden: Yeah. Kyle Felton: If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_. Just increase the cost. Eugene Arnone: Okay. Kyle Felton: The user does not have an advantage really. Eugene Arnone: So no L_C_D_? Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Steven Keller: Hmm. Eugene Arnone: And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: development Kyle Felton: Well if it's going Eugene Arnone: process. Kyle Felton: to delay yeah but uh it will be cool. It would. Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go Steven Keller: Mm-hmm. Kyle Felton: C_N_N_. Mm. Eugene Arnone: Yeah. That would be cool. But Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: eight months is really long and Maybe we can just uh Willie Wooden: Ten years Eugene Arnone: Okay. So um I I will uh I will so I we will move to next meeting so in after the lunch break Willie Wooden: Mm-hmm. Eugene Arnone: uh here are the individual uh action uh you are required to do but you will be uh recalled to the actions by uh email I think but you can take notes if you if you want but well the instruction will be sent. So thank you for uh your Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: suggestion and I I will make a summary of that meeting that I will put in the shared folder you Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: can't see Willie Wooden: Okay. Eugene Arnone: and uh and then you will um you will be able to to see what has been uh has been said on on this meeting and and what has been decided. Uh maybe for next meeting uh send Steven Keller your presentation before by email so that we can see them uh altogether. Kyle Felton: Yeah. Eugene Arnone: That Steven Keller: Mm. Eugene Arnone: would be easier. Kyle Felton: What is the folder that you put yours in? And did it it did work? Steven Keller: No. Eugene Arnone: No it did Steven Keller: No Eugene Arnone: not Steven Keller: no. Eugene Arnone: work. She send Kyle Felton: Ah Eugene Arnone: it Kyle Felton: yeah. Steven Keller: I dunno, Eugene Arnone: to Steven Keller by Kyle Felton: Mm. Eugene Arnone: email. Steven Keller: I dunno it. Kyle Felton: Okay. Eugene Arnone: So maybe this is better, to send it by email. Kyle Felton: Okay what Eugene Arnone: Okay? Kyle Felton: is your email? Eugene Arnone: So yeah I I'm it's in the first uh email so I'm participant one Kyle Felton: At participant Eugene Arnone: at AMI Kyle Felton: one. Okay. Eugene Arnone: uh where is that, it's here. Participant one at AMI. Okay. So see you after lunch break. Steven Keller: 'Kay Kyle Felton: Well Steven Keller: thank Kyle Felton: during Steven Keller: you. Kyle Felton: lunch break actually. Kyle Felton: So next time we should have a fight. How about uh management or something. Who happens to be your friend.

Kyle Felton presented the major components of the interface design, dividing the interface into two parts: voice commands and buttons. Steven Keller went over users' requirements as seen in a company study and showed that the major complaint was that remotes were too difficult to use. She also showed that users want fancier and more ergonomic designs, shock protection, voice recognition, and LCD screens. Eugene Arnone announced a new requirement to the group, that the remote is only to control televisions. Willie Wooden gave a layout of the internal functions of the device and showed that a standard chip, instead of a larger one that would accomodate voice recognition, would be the most feasible. Eugene Arnone announced also that the group was not to include a teletext function and that they should integrate the company logo into the external design. The group decided on what button functions should be included and decided to eliminate the LCD screen and voice recognition from the design due to time and cost restraints.

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Manuel Rankin: Afternoon guys. It's gonna be. Harry Sorg: Rock and roll. Manuel Rankin: Oh. 'Kay. Harry Sorg: So do we need to re-train Mike on how to put his mic on? Shaun Myers: Think Manuel Rankin: We may Harry Sorg: Okay, Shaun Myers: s Manuel Rankin: do. Harry Sorg: can he get it all by himself this time? Manuel Rankin: I dunno, Shaun Myers: Mm. Manuel Rankin: I'm feeling like a Shaun Myers: Pro Manuel Rankin: big boy. Shaun Myers: Probably not, been Harry Sorg: So Shaun Myers: listening too much. He's Harry Sorg: I believe Shaun Myers: getting Harry Sorg: I Shaun Myers: retarded. Harry Sorg: can fly. Eddy Dasilva: Alright Shaun Myers: Yay. Eddy Dasilva: well we got some exciting stuff for you guys. Shaun Myers: Or not. Eddy Dasilva: Or not. Shaun Myers: Yeah. Harry Sorg: Just what I needed was something exciting. Remember, I'm an old man. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay, ready to go? Eddy Dasilva: All ready. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay so Shaun Myers: Apparently Manuel Rankin: we've Shaun Myers: I'm Manuel Rankin: got Shaun Myers: old as Manuel Rankin: our Shaun Myers: well. Manuel Rankin: conceptual design meeting. Hopefully we've Harry Sorg: Thirty's Manuel Rankin: all got exciting Harry Sorg: really young, Manuel Rankin: ideas Harry Sorg: eh? Manuel Rankin: now. Eddy Dasilva: We do. Manuel Rankin: Uh k exciting ideas. 'Kay so here's our agenda our agenda. Um I'm gonna open. I'm gonna talk for a bit about what we're gonna do. I'm gonna take some notes. We're gonna all do a presentation, then we're gonna make some decisions now. Yep. Eddy Dasilva: Alright. Manuel Rankin: Well when I say hopefully, we have to. So I'm gonna let you guys talk before we make decisions. And does anyone really want to go first? Eddy Dasilva: I guess I'll go first. Manuel Rankin: You p two? Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: What's Eddy Dasilva: Component, I think. Manuel Rankin: Components Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: design. Eddy Dasilva: Yep that's it. Shaun Myers: Presented by name. Eddy Dasilva: My name is. Harry Sorg: Jose he Manuel Rankin: Your Harry Sorg: man Manuel Rankin: name Harry Sorg: is. Manuel Rankin: is name? Eddy Dasilva: My name is name. Manuel Rankin: Huh hi Shaun Myers: My Manuel Rankin: name. Shaun Myers: name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Eddy Dasilva: Sorry Shaun Myers: Prepare Eddy Dasilva: I did this Shaun Myers: to Eddy Dasilva: in a bit of a rush. Harry Sorg: N name. Eddy Dasilva: So Manuel Rankin: Right. Shaun Myers: die. Eddy Dasilva: so here's a look inside your really old-looking remote control. Um you've got a printed a printed uh circuit board here, and you've got all these buttons which kinda press little rubber nubbies little holes that Manuel Rankin: We've all Eddy Dasilva: activate Manuel Rankin: broke a remote control ri um s Eddy Dasilva: Yeah Manuel Rankin: yeah. Harry Sorg: I've Eddy Dasilva: we've all broken a remote control. So you've also got um you've got your chip here, your batteries here, and some sorta electronics. Um Harry Sorg: I just love you tech guys, huh. They just Shaun Myers: Yeah there's a thingy and Harry Sorg: Yeah Shaun Myers: a dingy Eddy Dasilva: Well Harry Sorg: y Shaun Myers: and Harry Sorg: do jabber. Manuel Rankin: You press Eddy Dasilva: so Manuel Rankin: this and Eddy Dasilva: you've Manuel Rankin: it does Eddy Dasilva: got Manuel Rankin: th Eddy Dasilva: here's here's a transistor, and this amplifies your signal, um you've got the L_E_D_ here on the end of the uh uh on the end of the printed circuit board. Um you've got a couple diodes here for I don't know who and whatnot. Manuel Rankin: I dunno Eddy Dasilva: So Manuel Rankin: who and whatnot. Eddy Dasilva: exactly. Shaun Myers: Nah. Eddy Dasilva: So um we've got a i in this in this uh drawing Harry Sorg: P Eddy Dasilva: he uh in this example here, this is a eighteen pin um uh chip Harry Sorg: Yeah. Eddy Dasilva: I dunno. Uh it's two double A_ batteries. This is pretty standard remote. So here are options for our power sources. You can use a basic battery, which we've already discussed, um th our tech department also said we have the option of doing some kind of hand dynamo where maybe you crank it or something like that. I Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. Eddy Dasilva: don't know if that's really Shaun Myers: I wanna change that. Eddy Dasilva: I don't know we got some qu crazy guys down there in that department so Manuel Rankin: Okay. Harry Sorg: I gotta gotta flashlight, and uh Eddy Dasilva: You shake it. Harry Sorg: yeah but it's interesting 'cause you shake it like this. Like this. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. So that's the next bullet is the Harry Sorg: And Eddy Dasilva: um Harry Sorg: that's on the camera. Eddy Dasilva: the kinetic provision of energy, so it's like that flashlight where you have to shake it. Harry Sorg: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. Eddy Dasilva: Uh we've got solar cells, which I don't think is a very good idea because um you could not use your remote at night which doesn't make a lot of sense. Manuel Rankin: Mm 'kay. Eddy Dasilva: And finally we've got our cradle o our power cradle idea. Manuel Rankin: Okay so we basically have battery versus cradle Eddy Dasilva: M Manuel Rankin: here? Eddy Dasilva: battery versus cradle I think Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: is yeah. Shaun Myers: I like the kinetic. Manuel Rankin: So Harry Sorg: I Manuel Rankin: we have Harry Sorg: g I Manuel Rankin: battery Harry Sorg: I figured Manuel Rankin: versus Eddy Dasilva: It Harry Sorg: you Eddy Dasilva: could Manuel Rankin: cradle Eddy Dasilva: be Harry Sorg: would. Eddy Dasilva: fun. Harry Sorg: Yes. Yeah. Manuel Rankin: It's actually a novel thing because you could sell it a as a novelty, just to be actually serious Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: for a minute here, you Eddy Dasilva: Well Manuel Rankin: could Eddy Dasilva: it is it is more uh I mean it is more eco-friendly than the than the cradle 'cause you're still using Manuel Rankin: Mm. Eddy Dasilva: power off the grid with the cradle. So Manuel Rankin: Hmm. Eddy Dasilva: um our case design. We have uh choices in materials and choices in the general shapes that we can do. Our material choices are a plastic latex um ty or plastic, a rubber latex type thing, uh wood, or titanium. If we go with titanium we're gonna be uh limited in the amount of shapes we can do because it's tough to shape the titanium, and uh Yeah pers Manuel Rankin: Wood wood would ge would give us a little bit of a marketing niche, wouldn't it. Eddy Dasilva: I think wood i Manuel Rankin: Nah. Eddy Dasilva: I I can't see anybody Harry Sorg: It it Eddy Dasilva: wanting Harry Sorg: it Eddy Dasilva: to use a wooden remote, it's Harry Sorg: Uh. Eddy Dasilva: just Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: anti-technology really, you know. Manuel Rankin: Hmm. Harry Sorg: Uh uh to Harry Sorg in a marketing sense it's not it's not relative. We can we can o we can uh accentuate whatever whatever product you put in there we can find Eddy Dasilva: Right. Harry Sorg: a way to accentuate Eddy Dasilva: And what Harry Sorg: it. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: we may be able to do, and I think this might be the best option is to combine some a couple of these. Um my recommendation personally would be to do some kind of a plastic inner shell with a like a rubber outer shell, to make it um to mak uh like a thick plastic inner shell and a t um kind of a to have that rubber outer shell to make it more durable, and also maybe i I think it feels a little better than the plastic. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. Do you get a good grip on the rubber? Eddy Dasilva: Yeah Manuel Rankin: Yeah okay. Harry Sorg: And Eddy Dasilva: um Harry Sorg: if you make it from that super rubber, when you drop it on the floor it can bounce right back up in your hand. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: You don't even need to lean down to get it. Eddy Dasilva: The advantages of working with plastic and rubber is w we we'll have a lot more um options just in terms of shape because you can extrude plastic in basically any shape you want. So um and then we can cover you know the breakable bits with rubber yeah so um Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: But basically these are curved and double-curved I I believe that the tech department, in their um in their message to Harry Sorg, that they were referring to the number of th curves in the bottom. I have no idea exactly what they're talking about, but that's Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: what they told Harry Sorg, uncurved, flat, curved, or double-curved. I would guess this like this pen would be kinda like a double-curved, where it's curved on m m multiple axes, right? I think curved means just curved in one axis and double-curved is curved in two axes Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: or surfaces. I Manuel Rankin: I Eddy Dasilva: have Manuel Rankin: think Eddy Dasilva: no Manuel Rankin: it Eddy Dasilva: idea. Manuel Rankin: might mean something like that sorta shape because a double curve rather Harry Sorg: Mm-hmm Manuel Rankin: than Harry Sorg: yeah Manuel Rankin: a Eddy Dasilva: Oh Harry Sorg: that's Eddy Dasilva: okay Manuel Rankin: yeah that's Harry Sorg: yeah Eddy Dasilva: oh Harry Sorg: that's Eddy Dasilva: like Harry Sorg: what Eddy Dasilva: a Harry Sorg: I Eddy Dasilva: wave, Harry Sorg: see. Manuel Rankin: what. Eddy Dasilva: okay. Harry Sorg: Yeah Eddy Dasilva: Alright Harry Sorg: that's what I see Eddy Dasilva: that Harry Sorg: also. Eddy Dasilva: makes sense okay. Um okay, with the interface we have the following options, we can u we can use push buttons, we can use a scroll wheel with an integrated push button, and Harry Sorg: Ooh. Eddy Dasilva: L_C_D_ display, or multiple scrolling wheels. Um so these are all options that the user interface guy can uh has at his disposal to put together a user interface. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: For electronics, we have these very technical um descriptions here. A simple chip, which is the least expensive, but I have no numbers to give you, a regular chip, which is like the medium porridge the medium Manuel Rankin: D do we have actually Eddy Dasilva: expense Manuel Rankin: any Eddy Dasilva: uh Manuel Rankin: concept of what the difference is between a simple chip and an advanced chip? Eddy Dasilva: Yes the difference is, with a simple chip a simple chip will operate oh why doesn't this scroll up? Previous previous, okay. Um Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: an advanced chip is required to to operate um the L_C_D_ display, and it didn't say specifically, but I I have a hunch that a regular chip is gonna be the scroll wheel and the multiple scroll wheels. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: So but yeah. Manuel Rankin: Yeah that makes sense. Eddy Dasilva: That's the Manuel Rankin: So Eddy Dasilva: end of my presentation. Manuel Rankin: presentation from I guess design would go best. Next. Manuel Rankin: Technical functions or interface concept? Eddy Dasilva: I think Shaun Myers: Oh interface concept. Manuel Rankin: Yeah that's it. Yes, but it has your name on it. Shaun Myers: Well that doesn't bo bode well for it for it tats as well. Um so, somehow that thing's too big, but um okay um our uh manufacturing division wanted the speech recognition. They say they could put it to work but um we don't think so. Eddy Dasilva: No. Shaun Myers: No. It it it you'll be you know be affected by Eddy Dasilva: If Shaun Myers: the by Eddy Dasilva: the Shaun Myers: the other Eddy Dasilva: T_V_ Shaun Myers: speech Eddy Dasilva: is working, Shaun Myers: and Eddy Dasilva: yeah. That's just I mean it'll if somebody says up in the middle of a television show, it's gonna change the channel. Shaun Myers: Yeah and and fighting Eddy Dasilva: So Shaun Myers: for the remote would not be fun anymore, and I think that's one of the things we Manuel Rankin: But Shaun Myers: wanna Manuel Rankin: what if Shaun Myers: keep. Manuel Rankin: you actually had to press a button to make it recognize? So if you pressed it and went, up? Shaun Myers: That kinda would Eddy Dasilva: Well then why don't Shaun Myers: r Eddy Dasilva: you just press the up Shaun Myers: d Eddy Dasilva: button? Shaun Myers: yeah. Manuel Rankin: Man yeah. Shaun Myers: That would kind of lose Manuel Rankin: But if it's just Shaun Myers: it. Manuel Rankin: one thing with a button that you can just go Harry Sorg: That's right. Eddy Dasilva: Even Manuel Rankin: Up. Eddy Dasilva: still there's gonna be interf th there's there still will be interference from the T_V_. It Manuel Rankin: Yeah, okay. Eddy Dasilva: might not be it might not be completely confusing, but I think you'll still y it's still I don't think it's practical at all. I think it's a bad idea frankly. Shaun Myers: Yeah Manuel Rankin: Okay. Shaun Myers: so um taking that away, our uh Manuel Rankin: You guys know your stuff. Shaun Myers: the the the rubber but rubber buttons are the more reliable it's the the ones that would al would allow us to to market our product as being you know less prone to damage and more resistant to things like spillage of liquids over it or you know mistreat misuses as it happens to remote controls. Um as for the point that we making about losing it. Well, we wanna small r remote control one side because uh we want it to be cool and uh designed, but um apparently um market shows that bigger s bigger um remotes get less lost, Eddy Dasilva: That I Shaun Myers: about Eddy Dasilva: would believe. Harry Sorg: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: Mm. Shaun Myers: But um yeah I think we we need to compromise between those two and somehow we'll do that. Somehow. Um so the the what I would propose is something more or less in the uh direction of what is to yo the right of that slide uh but without with a l a less complicated um design, so the numbers, the volume control, and channel control, and teletext access. Uh the volume and channel control can just become those the the four button array as in if it was a round dial. Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Shaun Myers: And um if you just think about it as the one to the right but with the numbers and the four buttons plus maybe a centre one with teletext. Manuel Rankin: So we're suggesting doing a sorta scroll wheel thing for the volume? Shaun Myers: Ye no it's Eddy Dasilva: That's Shaun Myers: not Eddy Dasilva: not Shaun Myers: i Eddy Dasilva: a Shaun Myers: i Eddy Dasilva: scroll wheel. Shaun Myers: it's just Manuel Rankin: Nah. Shaun Myers: four buttons that are on a cross, Manuel Rankin: Oh okay Shaun Myers: so Manuel Rankin: okay. Shaun Myers: that you Manuel Rankin: I Shaun Myers: ba Manuel Rankin: see. Shaun Myers: basically can control all of the Eddy Dasilva: Right. Shaun Myers: important tasks from that alone. Eddy Dasilva: Instead of Manuel Rankin: Uh, Eddy Dasilva: play, Manuel Rankin: okay. Eddy Dasilva: stop, rewind, and fast forward there, that's up, down, louder, and quieter. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Shaun Myers: Yeah um yeah so I think we w we go for something mid-sized, so something looks good and uh is not too prone to get lost. That be it. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. So on to Manuel Rankin: Y functional requirements or trend watching? Harry Sorg: I dunno. Eddy Dasilva: Trend watching Harry Sorg: Trend Eddy Dasilva: has Harry Sorg: watching Eddy Dasilva: a later Harry Sorg: I guess. Eddy Dasilva: date there. Harry Sorg: Trend watching I believe. Manuel Rankin: forty six nineteen fifty seven. Harry Sorg: See Manuel Rankin: Yep. Harry Sorg: what it looks like. It's been so long. Well I don't know what to say. When I s when I see the when I see the product I I I I don't wanna buy it. I see so many of 'em out there. There's nothing about that product that makes Harry Sorg wanna choose that product over other products that are out there. Eddy Dasilva: Are you talking about the picture? Harry Sorg: Yeah yeah. Eddy Dasilva: That's not our that's not our b design, that's just Harry Sorg: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: a that's just something he a a graphic he used to show you the layout Harry Sorg: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: of what the layout of the buttons might be like. Harry Sorg: Okay 'cause 'cause right now I don't have too much to say about how to market this product because we don't have a product to market yet. And Manuel Rankin: Mm. Harry Sorg: uh from from talking to Mike is that we have we have uh we can market a more expensive product now. That's what I understand Manuel Rankin: Upper Harry Sorg: so, Manuel Rankin: management said yes. Harry Sorg: hello. Manuel Rankin: Uh e excuse that, that's a bit of spam. Harry Sorg: And and so yeah I'm a I'm a little bit stuck right now in that what uh w what is it that I'm gonna market? Uh without special or increased marketable features I don't believe the product has a consumer demand. Uh I like the idea of of the scroll makin there are so many people making these products at this price right now. What are we gonna do to make this one special and unique? Eddy Dasilva: What's special and unique about a scroll? Harry Sorg: Uh well I don't Manuel Rankin: It's cool. Harry Sorg: yeah it's I I just see it as different. I don't say it's specially mm I don't say it's special. Uh I say that it's different I what I'm looking for as marketing is m give Harry Sorg something different. I give Harry Sorg a lower price, give Harry Sorg a higher price, give Harry Sorg some new technology, don't give Harry Sorg the same thing that everybody else is putting out there on the shelf it's f at the same price. I need something to market about this thing. We're we're a new Manuel Rankin: I'd Harry Sorg: firm. Manuel Rankin: I'd say though that we if we did make the decision to go with the cradle though, Harry Sorg: What Manuel Rankin: the then we Harry Sorg: i Manuel Rankin: have that Harry Sorg: if Manuel Rankin: as Harry Sorg: when Manuel Rankin: well, but Harry Sorg: when we Manuel Rankin: wi with Harry Sorg: have Manuel Rankin: a similar Harry Sorg: yeah when we when we have something like the cradle or or something give that's as as a marketing standard I need something to market, to make Eddy Dasilva: Well Harry Sorg: this product unique. Eddy Dasilva: right I think the two big th points that we have so far are the having the cradle and also having uh the um the actual design of the uh case itself having like this like rubber shell maybe with a plastic Harry Sorg: Yep. Eddy Dasilva: interior, having it look really nice um and also be really durable. Harry Sorg: Mm 'kay. Just remember when I made up this report I didn't have the information that we're discussing here. Eddy Dasilva: Right Manuel Rankin: Mm. Eddy Dasilva: yeah. Harry Sorg: And Manuel Rankin: Course. Harry Sorg: and Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: so so uh yeah when we have a cradle, when we have some kind of design, so what I'm saying is, from my perspective, I don't have a product to market right now. Um uh my personal preference is that we make some adjustment in the cost, either lower or develop an integrated new technol technology. That's that is the next step, there's technology and then there is technology, Manuel Rankin: Yeah Harry Sorg: which Manuel Rankin: 'cause Harry Sorg: we're Manuel Rankin: that's. Harry Sorg: moving into the next phase. And so uh we're gonna have some new technology to enhance the marketability. Yeah uh again I'm not sold on the product because we don't have a product in my opinion Manuel Rankin: Mm. Harry Sorg: yet. So Manuel Rankin: Mm 'kay. Harry Sorg: I Eddy Dasilva: Well Harry Sorg: need Eddy Dasilva: let's Harry Sorg: a product. Eddy Dasilva: get a product then. Harry Sorg: I need a product to market. And I just whatever product you guys put together, we'll find a way to market it. Tha that I'm not concerned with. Manuel Rankin: So now Harry Sorg: If you if you give Harry Sorg if you give Harry Sorg a cut-out of what everybody else has then I need to I need to find a lower cost. Manuel Rankin: So our big questions here really are cradle or not cradle? Do we go basic or do we go for features? Uh d does anyone really wanna do anything with the scroll wheel or should we ditch that Eddy Dasilva: Well my question Manuel Rankin: off-hand Eddy Dasilva: is what Manuel Rankin: first? Eddy Dasilva: would the scroll wheel do? Function-wise, what does that do that Manuel Rankin: Oh but that was in your presentation so wh what would you imagine Harry Sorg: Yeah Manuel Rankin: it doing? Harry Sorg: wh wh what's the wh Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Well it's it's just another way to do the exact same thing that the buttons do. Manuel Rankin: Mm 'kay. Harry Sorg: Okay now Shaun Myers: But Harry Sorg: what Shaun Myers: would Harry Sorg: I see Shaun Myers: we Harry Sorg: with the scroll wheel is everybody has buttons. So from a marketing standpoint I have I have another door to walk through when we have something that's unique. Manuel Rankin: Yeah. Harry Sorg: If it creates something more complex or more expensive, then I don't know if that makes it uh a marketing necessity. But again, from a marketing perspective I want as much new and different about this thing as possible because we're we're co it's a very competitive market. Manuel Rankin: What I understand about scroll wheels is they're they're quite expensive to Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: to make. Eddy Dasilva: Th Manuel Rankin: So I d Eddy Dasilva: they are gonna be more expensive, but on the other hand, I mean, it I mean it is an alternative if if you think that's gonna sell some some uh you know if if we're gonna make up the extra cost by extra sales I think maybe it's worth it to do it, but I mean I would just use if I was gonna do this I would just use the scroll wheel for s channels up and channels down. I don't think volume or do you think volume would be Shaun Myers: I dunno. I'll bet first in volume maybe. I dunno. Eddy Dasilva: No we can we can do multiple scroll wheels but Manuel Rankin: Well I d I like the idea of basically focusing the my personal preference is focusing the p the product on the idea of the uh the case the the uh dock to put it in to to charge it. We can target like environmentally friendly ideas, that Harry Sorg: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: sorta things. It s i m makes it easy Harry Sorg: Yeah yeah. Manuel Rankin: to market, it's Harry Sorg: I Manuel Rankin: easy Harry Sorg: think Manuel Rankin: to differentiate Harry Sorg: it's Manuel Rankin: the product, Harry Sorg: that's right. Manuel Rankin: yeah so. Harry Sorg: I think so. Manuel Rankin: And if we we keep the rest in a format that is durable because th th the whole product's gonna need to be more durable th thus Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: because you're not going to be ditching it as often. It's gonna need to be more expensive because of the cradle. Harry Sorg: Mm. Manuel Rankin: So if we can market it in terms of Harry Sorg: Yep. Manuel Rankin: that and yeah Harry Sorg: I Manuel Rankin: well Harry Sorg: think we got some exclusivity in that, you know, we got something that nobody Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: else has right now, adjustments in the retail or wholesale price if we need to and it also can create it's own demand from it's uniqueness. Manuel Rankin: So our big decision then is like how do we do um like we have to decide on the details and we have to decide on well n not exactly the details, but d do we have uh What type of casing? I personally like what you were saying about the plastic with the rubber. Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. I'm thinking yeah something like kinda almost like these pens, you know, where there's you have plastic bits and then it's not really rubber but just kinda like a fused the plastic with rubber on the outside. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Just a very thin sorta sheet for a a grip, sorta Eddy Dasilva: Well no Manuel Rankin: thing Eddy Dasilva: ma Manuel Rankin: or Eddy Dasilva: yeah Manuel Rankin: for Eddy Dasilva: maybe a bit more then th is on here but ju just as a kind of an inspiration, these pens I think are are kind of Manuel Rankin: Okay. So then if we d d do we want to do anything more basic with the uh more advanced with the user interface in terms of do we want to go for um buttons, or do we want if we're ditching the scroll wheels do we want to go L_C_D_? Do we want to give do we want to have anything else on it? Shaun Myers: It's only a T_V_. Eddy Dasilva: Or from from my perspective I think L_C_D_ is a mistake because this is a universal remote and all you're doing I mean it's you're not gonna get any information back from the television, so the only information you can display on this remote is what channel you just sent it at last and there's just not a lot of information, you know, there. Shaun Myers: Hmm. Eddy Dasilva: It Manuel Rankin: Okay. Eddy Dasilva: receives no information. So I I don't see any reason for having an L_C_D_ 'cause it's an increased cost. Unless Harry Sorg: Yeah. Eddy Dasilva: you can think of something interesting to do with it. Harry Sorg: Yeah right now there's right now there's nothing coming out of the T_V_ to receive, so Eddy Dasilva: Right. Harry Sorg: you know unless technology changes and information starts coming out of the a cable box or something there's no s I don't see the, I don't see the necessity of an L_C_D_ either. Don't see it. Manuel Rankin: Okay so the question is now I guess we need t to decide on well y you guys basically have to now go and figure out the details of this thing. of marketing and uh project management are are there any other questions that we need to answer now before you guys can go and build this? What what overall things have we not decided on? Eddy Dasilva: Well we have to I think for Harry Sorg it's still not exactly clear exactly what the inter user interface is gonna be. There's the scroll wheel, in or out? What do you guys like in the user interface? Manuel Rankin: I think maybe in terms of marketing, is that gonna make enough of a Harry Sorg: Again. Manuel Rankin: difference to justify the cost? Harry Sorg: Well I think it's it's the more uniqueness you can bring to the product, the easier it is, I believe, for Harry Sorg to market. Uh again the push-buttons I I see are are everywhere. And so we can go with the same thing, but we're gonna be com competing in a in a broader market than if we go with something unique. You know the other thing I thought about was you know, do we go to something like this? Make a remote that doesn't look like a remote. It's just another it's just a an idea, and I don't know Eddy Dasilva: Well I dunno about like the flip-phone idea, because I think, as far as durability th it's not a big well Harry Sorg: I Eddy Dasilva: maybe Harry Sorg: mean what Eddy Dasilva: when Harry Sorg: I Eddy Dasilva: it's Harry Sorg: see Eddy Dasilva: closed. Harry Sorg: one of the things one of the things you brought up in Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: an earlier presentation is, when you got children, their their stuff gets inside the circuitry, they get dirty, they get messy with drinks and stuff. This Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: And what I keep throwing out there I just keep throwing out ideas to try to make this thing look or act or in some way identify itself as unique or different. Shaun Myers: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: But you guys are the ones that have to c ultimately create the product within cost. Manuel Rankin: Yeah and I guess th th the question th th that you're being asked right now is whether is the dock enough of a unique feature to be able to go out and sell that a a as a a very different product, or do we really need the scroll wheel as well? Because Harry Sorg: Oh Manuel Rankin: the scroll Harry Sorg: okay Manuel Rankin: wheel comes at quite Harry Sorg: phew. Manuel Rankin: a cost. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: I think you gotta g get into cost effectiveness. I think if you can have the base station with a with a locator, I think those are two very strong features, if Eddy Dasilva: Well Harry Sorg: that's something that can be integrated Eddy Dasilva: The Harry Sorg: without a bunch of extra cost. Eddy Dasilva: The locator's gonna require a radio transmitter, which Harry Sorg: Mm-hmm. Eddy Dasilva: will Manuel Rankin: That's gonna n is that gonna need a better chip as well? Eddy Dasilva: Um Shaun Myers: No Eddy Dasilva: we're Shaun Myers: it's Eddy Dasilva: probably Shaun Myers: just Eddy Dasilva: gonna Shaun Myers: different. Eddy Dasilva: have to go with a like a medium chip, s I would imagine. But we I we will need a receiver, an antenna. Harry Sorg: Integrated, yeah. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: So it's just uh I I think that's Eddy Dasilva: It should be a really simple signal though so Harry Sorg: I know personally that would be a very attractive feature, is to have a uh have a button I can push to find my remote control. Manuel Rankin: And it's presumably gonna need a little speaker in it or something like that as well to beep. Eddy Dasilva: That's true yeah. Manuel Rankin: But I guess a little tiny speaker is gonna be quite cheap, it's not gonna need q quality, Eddy Dasilva: Oh yeah Manuel Rankin: is it? It's Eddy Dasilva: yeah. It'll be really cheap. Harry Sorg: Or maybe you can like have a a smell-o-rama, you know you push a button and it s puts out a stink. You can Shaun Myers: Maybe not. Manuel Rankin: Makes your living room more fresh as Harry Sorg: Yeah Manuel Rankin: you watch. Harry Sorg: yeah yeah yeah. Manuel Rankin: Okay we're Shaun Myers: S Manuel Rankin: doing well for time here. Um we've got about another ten minutes. I think that uh Eddy Dasilva: So the scroll wheel, in or out? Manuel Rankin: Mm pr my personal preference is out. I don't think the cost is justified for a little bit more uniqueness when we already have that, and I don't s think Shaun Myers: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: it's obvious and natural how it would be used. Shaun Myers: Yeah I think we have like and it's not very usable and it will bring down the robustness of the whole thing, 'cause Manuel Rankin: Mm. Shaun Myers: it's Harry Sorg: Yeah. Shaun Myers: it it breaks down easier. Eddy Dasilva: For Harry Sorg I think the scroll wheel actually might not be so bad. I don't know exactly what the increased cost is gonna be, but I think he does have a point, i it might push somebody over the edge when they're looking at our at our remote versus something else, when they see this one has a scroll wheel to go up and down on the channels. I think it might be kinda neat to be able to do it like that. Manuel Rankin: But Harry Sorg: W Manuel Rankin: then that that surely d depends a little on the T_V_ because some T_V_s are quite slow at changing channels from Eddy Dasilva: Sure. Manuel Rankin: like so if you've got a scroll wheel and you s you have to scroll scroll it really really slowly just so that you're actually keeping in pace with the T_V_'s ability to to change channels. Or Harry Sorg: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: do you have to go through and you wait for it? You scroll it a bunch of times and you wait Eddy Dasilva: Well Manuel Rankin: for Eddy Dasilva: I Manuel Rankin: it Eddy Dasilva: think Manuel Rankin: to Eddy Dasilva: wh what it would be is like like the m like this, where it's maybe you know a digital wheel, Manuel Rankin: Mm. Eddy Dasilva: right, where it's where it's quantized into you know certain Harry Sorg: Oh Manuel Rankin: Uh Harry Sorg: yeah. Manuel Rankin: I see I see. That's where you Harry Sorg: Yeah. Eddy Dasilva: That was that was my my intuition Manuel Rankin: Ah I see Eddy Dasilva: of what the Manuel Rankin: I see Eddy Dasilva: scroll Manuel Rankin: what you're Eddy Dasilva: wheel Manuel Rankin: talking Eddy Dasilva: would be. Manuel Rankin: about now. Okay. Eddy Dasilva: It's just it's basically it it's just a f look and feel thing. It has the same exact functionality as two buttons. Harry Sorg: I I think there's you know that uh there are so many people today that are that are surfing are television surfers, and I see the scroll as a as a great mechanism for surfing. Instead Manuel Rankin: Yeah Harry Sorg: of going Manuel Rankin: if you're Harry Sorg: button-to-bu Manuel Rankin: just sitting there going Harry Sorg: you just j you'd j j j j j j. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: I Manuel Rankin: That's Harry Sorg: really Manuel Rankin: kinda cool actually. Harry Sorg: I really think Manuel Rankin: I like Harry Sorg: that's Manuel Rankin: that. Harry Sorg: a really cool thing for surfing. Eddy Dasilva: Now just just so you know though uh you did bring up a point which is very valid, is a lot of T_V_s won't re the T_V_s won't respond exactly the same. Some of them are gonna be kinda slow switching, so you may like queue up like fifteen channel changes, and it'll be like flip, flip, flip. Harry Sorg: Well there's Eddy Dasilva: But Harry Sorg: ano Manuel Rankin: Well not n necessarily. You could basically make it so that it'll I mean it's just gonna be sending a signal to the T_V_ yeah Eddy Dasilva: Right. Manuel Rankin: the T_V_'s Harry Sorg: That's right. Manuel Rankin: ge so if you send about five flip channels, if you did that it's gonna flip once. If Eddy Dasilva: Yeah Manuel Rankin: you Eddy Dasilva: it Manuel Rankin: do Eddy Dasilva: just Manuel Rankin: that. Eddy Dasilva: might be frustrating where you Manuel Rankin: Other Eddy Dasilva: can't Manuel Rankin: than Eddy Dasilva: make Manuel Rankin: click Eddy Dasilva: it go Manuel Rankin: click Eddy Dasilva: as fast Manuel Rankin: click. Eddy Dasilva: as you want, but I think Manuel Rankin: Yeah. Eddy Dasilva: once people get used to it I I do like the idea of the scroll wheel though. Manuel Rankin: And if we're marketing it as a high niche product, then we're gonna be selling it to people who are buying good T_V_s as well, yeah, presumably. Shaun Myers: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: Yeah I think Manuel Rankin: Primarily. Harry Sorg: so. I I Shaun Myers: Yep. Harry Sorg: think so. Now the the only thing I I on the interface side of it, is that I I I see the dilemma. But if we have the option of of scrolling at any particular speed, or the option of jumping direct, okay. Manuel Rankin: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: So I can go uh presuming I have, on my television, something that tells Harry Sorg what channel I'm on, I can scroll direct from channel five to channel thirty two. I know what because it's on the television. The television tells Harry Sorg what channel it's on when I change it. So I don't know that really that's that's gonna be a a d problem, 'cause the television can go automatically from channel five to channel thirty two with the push of a button. Manuel Rankin: Mm-hmm. Harry Sorg: Okay? So ca can we can we create that kind of interface within a scroll system? You understand what I'm saying? Eddy Dasilva: I think I know what you might be getting at, or Manuel Rankin: Oh Eddy Dasilva: or Manuel Rankin: I see so if maybe if we had an L_C_D_ up the top that just did a number on it, right? Harry Sorg: Oh Manuel Rankin: And Harry Sorg: no Manuel Rankin: then Harry Sorg: we Manuel Rankin: it Harry Sorg: could read Manuel Rankin: that Harry Sorg: it Manuel Rankin: basically Harry Sorg: from Eddy Dasilva: Well, Harry Sorg: the television. Eddy Dasilva: what about this what Manuel Rankin: Mm. Eddy Dasilva: about if you can programme in your favourite channels into this scroll wheel and you can just like roll through your favourite channels, Manuel Rankin: Well that's Eddy Dasilva: and Manuel Rankin: quite Eddy Dasilva: it c Manuel Rankin: cool. You'd Eddy Dasilva: it Manuel Rankin: need a display on the th Eddy Dasilva: Why? Manuel Rankin: the thing. Eddy Dasilva: It'll tell you when you flip the Harry Sorg: Yeah Eddy Dasilva: channel Harry Sorg: the Eddy Dasilva: on the Harry Sorg: the television Eddy Dasilva: T_V_. Harry Sorg: can tell you. Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Harry Sorg: Can. Manuel Rankin: Oh yeah yeah no I see what you're talking about. Yeah that's kinda cool. How would you program it though? Eddy Dasilva: Well you just it's one extra button. You Harry Sorg: Put Eddy Dasilva: say programme start, and then type in 'cause you still have the typing you know you'll still have the keypad where you Manuel Rankin: Okay Eddy Dasilva: can type Manuel Rankin: okay. Eddy Dasilva: 'em in manually. So programme start, zero, one, enter, zero, five, enter, thirty eight, enter, programme end. Harry Sorg: And then. Manuel Rankin: Okay and yeah and that just basically flips between it and it'll go Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: it sends out zero, five, and then thirty six, and then Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: zero, one again. Yeah that's kinda cool. I like that. Harry Sorg: And again we have another another great marketing tool. We have about three we have three or four Manuel Rankin: That's Harry Sorg: things Manuel Rankin: not Harry Sorg: here. Manuel Rankin: gonna be too expensive because that's gonna be you're gonna be able to nab that off of computer mouse manufacturers really. Eddy Dasilva: Mm-hmm. Manuel Rankin: You could basically come up with a partnership to be able to produce that quite cheaply. Harry Sorg: I dunno and Shaun Myers: Yeah. Harry Sorg: an maybe we maybe even have this as in-house technology. This may be something that's available through our own uh through our own services. Manuel Rankin: Might be, but tha that's not gonna be such a costly feature. The problem we're gonna have is making it robust. Eddy Dasilva: Oh well Manuel Rankin: Making Eddy Dasilva: we also Manuel Rankin: it last. Eddy Dasilva: have to determine in some manner how to switch between modes, between going through your favourites list and just hitting up one, up Harry Sorg: Or Eddy Dasilva: two. Harry Sorg: we go directional up Manuel Rankin: So if there's Harry Sorg: we Manuel Rankin: a button Harry Sorg: go we go Manuel Rankin: for Harry Sorg: this Manuel Rankin: each Harry Sorg: we Manuel Rankin: type. Harry Sorg: go this we go this way for one, we go this way for the other. Eddy Dasilva: No because you wanna be able to go up and down through the channels. Manuel Rankin: Yeah people are gonna Harry Sorg: Ah-ha Manuel Rankin: have their favourite Harry Sorg: okay. Manuel Rankin: sorta, whether Harry Sorg: Okay, Manuel Rankin: they do that Harry Sorg: okay, Manuel Rankin: or whether they Harry Sorg: well then you Eddy Dasilva: Right. Harry Sorg: just have, you have a diff you have a mode Eddy Dasilva: I think Harry Sorg: switch. Manuel Rankin: Yeah Eddy Dasilva: we'll need Manuel Rankin: yeah Eddy Dasilva: a Manuel Rankin: the mode switch. Eddy Dasilva: we'll need a mode switch, but then if we have a mode switch we're gonna need some kinda indicator Manuel Rankin: Just Eddy Dasilva: to Manuel Rankin: the Eddy Dasilva: which, Manuel Rankin: lights behind Eddy Dasilva: an Manuel Rankin: the Eddy Dasilva: L_E_ Manuel Rankin: buttons. You Eddy Dasilva: an Manuel Rankin: could have Eddy Dasilva: L_E_D_ Manuel Rankin: back-lit buttons maybe. Eddy Dasilva: okay. Manuel Rankin: Would Shaun Myers: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: that work? Is Eddy Dasilva: Okay. Manuel Rankin: that okay we have five minutes. So right details th that we've talked about here are that we want a scroll wheel. We want a mode indicator. We want back-lit buttons. And if we're making back-lit buttons period, do we want that just for the mode indicator or maybe to indicate what button you're pressing at the time, so that you know if it's actually pressed or not. I've seen some remotes do that. Eddy Dasilva: Okay. Just so you know I think I mean it was my understanding that before we were gonna stay in the mid-market range. It seems we're kind of approaching a higher-end Harry Sorg: Yeah Eddy Dasilva: range. Harry Sorg: yeah. Manuel Rankin: I think Eddy Dasilva: I wanna make Manuel Rankin: we Eddy Dasilva: sure Manuel Rankin: are Eddy Dasilva: everybody's Manuel Rankin: yeah. Eddy Dasilva: okay Harry Sorg: Well you Eddy Dasilva: with Harry Sorg: had acknowledged Eddy Dasilva: that. Harry Sorg: that we have more money for this. Manuel Rankin: Yeah Harry Sorg: Didn't you Manuel Rankin: well Harry Sorg: say Manuel Rankin: we don't Harry Sorg: so? Manuel Rankin: have it's not that we have more money, we can push up the the price. Harry Sorg: That's what I mean. We can Manuel Rankin: Yeah. Harry Sorg: increase the cost. Eddy Dasilva: Okay. Harry Sorg: So Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. Harry Sorg: I don't know I don't Eddy Dasilva: I just Harry Sorg: know Eddy Dasilva: wanna Harry Sorg: whether Eddy Dasilva: make Harry Sorg: having Eddy Dasilva: sure everybody's on board with it. So Manuel Rankin: Yeah. So we really need to be sure as to what we can push the cost up to, though we haven't got to a stage where we're ready to pin down the price of components. But I'd say what sorta price are we looking to be able to sell something like that, and what sorta price can we make it for? Harry Sorg: Well I think th I think the design and technology has to come back and say, okay to create this product we see it's gonna cost us this much for this volume, because we do have a volume target of of fifty million profit. Manuel Rankin: Yeah no I I think that's where we really should be more flexible than anything else because as we said in the last meeting, our management is really looking for us to push our brand. Eddy Dasilva: Right. Manuel Rankin: We're entering a new market here, so I think the the profit expectation for this one product is maybe not as important as being able to Harry Sorg: Okay I'm I'm okay with that. I guess what I just want to Harry Sorg the next step is for these guys to come come in with the design proposal w with the cost estimate attached, and then we have to take this to the next Manuel Rankin: But Harry Sorg: level. Manuel Rankin: th what's our ballpark as to what we'd be able to sell something Eddy Dasilva: Well Manuel Rankin: like this Eddy Dasilva: y yeah. Manuel Rankin: for? Eddy Dasilva: Let's let's try Harry Sorg: We have Eddy Dasilva: and think Harry Sorg: to find Eddy Dasilva: now, Harry Sorg: cost. Eddy Dasilva: how much would you pay for with all these features how much would you pay if you went to the store, and you were in the market f to replace your T_V_ remote, how much would you pay for that? Manuel Rankin: But you've gotta think who our target market is because Eddy Dasilva: I'm just asking Manuel Rankin: I I'm Eddy Dasilva: you. Manuel Rankin: not our target market. I'm a student, but Eddy Dasilva: If Manuel Rankin: on the other hand I would think, mm with my Project Manager salary, I Eddy Dasilva: Then Manuel Rankin: would Eddy Dasilva: you could probably Manuel Rankin: think Eddy Dasilva: afford Manuel Rankin: yeah Eddy Dasilva: this. Manuel Rankin: I could probably afford this uh would I buy it? Maybe. If I had a cool new T_V_ and this was r looking really slick and it had the dock and it had the scroll wheel, which I think's a really cool idea, that would sell Harry Sorg on it a little. Then maybe you know. I do I don't think I'd go over a hundred Euro certainly, Eddy Dasilva: Oh Manuel Rankin: that would Eddy Dasilva: no Manuel Rankin: be way Eddy Dasilva: no. Manuel Rankin: too much, but the I would be happy paying over forty for it, I guess, Eddy Dasilva: I would say thirty Manuel Rankin: but not Eddy Dasilva: five Manuel Rankin: much Eddy Dasilva: to forty. Harry Sorg: Yeah, I was gonna say thirty five to fifty. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay. Thirty five to fifty Euros is our sales bracket okay. Eddy Dasilva: Okay. Manuel Rankin: So Harry Sorg: Because Manuel Rankin: the question Harry Sorg: one of Manuel Rankin: is Harry Sorg: th Manuel Rankin: what Harry Sorg: one Manuel Rankin: we ca Harry Sorg: of Manuel Rankin: we Harry Sorg: the Manuel Rankin: make Harry Sorg: things Manuel Rankin: it Harry Sorg: we're Manuel Rankin: for. Harry Sorg: marketing about this product is that this is the last one you will ever need to buy for Eddy Dasilva: Right. Harry Sorg: your television. Manuel Rankin: Mm. Harry Sorg: It's one of the marketing features in this. Manuel Rankin: That's why the scroll needs to be really robust. Shaun Myers: Okay so we'll come up with something between thirty five and fifty that is rug rubber, robust, with scroll wheel, with the new facilities of the scroll wheel like favourite stuff, favourite channels, Harry Sorg: Mm-hmm. Eddy Dasilva: With Shaun Myers: and Eddy Dasilva: a cradle, radio Shaun Myers: and Eddy Dasilva: transmitters, Shaun Myers: with a cradle, and yeah and the locator. Eddy Dasilva: and back-lit buttons. And it's gonna look sexy. Shaun Myers: Or not. Eddy Dasilva: Or not. It might look like clay. Shaun Myers: Okay so you can market Harry Sorg: Yeah yeah. Shaun Myers: pe depending Harry Sorg: Bas th that's Shaun Myers: on that? Harry Sorg: that's easy. That's that's not a, it's a. 'Cause we have about six, six, seven features in that alone. Manuel Rankin: Yep. Harry Sorg: Under Shaun Myers: Cool. Harry Sorg: the title of uniquenesses. Shaun Myers: Hmm. Manuel Rankin: Okay. The next meeting starts in thirty minutes, although does it? It starts at three twenty one, the next meeting. So we've got more than a thirty minutes. Um we've got Harry Sorg: Well Manuel Rankin: more Harry Sorg: I have Manuel Rankin: like fifty. Harry Sorg: Is my three twenty one is the next meeting? Manuel Rankin: The the ne next meeting is three twenty one yeah. Harry Sorg: That's that's almost uh fifty minutes. Manuel Rankin: Yeah that is. Uh Harry Sorg: You guys Manuel Rankin: they've Harry Sorg: can Manuel Rankin: they've changed the times from the presentations. Harry Sorg: You guys you guys can uh create a All Eddy Dasilva: Probably. Harry Sorg: kinds of things. Eddy Dasilva: We'll let you know when we're done, if we can go earlier. Harry Sorg: Thanks, yeah. Manuel Rankin: Okay so you guys will be getting your modelling done now Eddy Dasilva: Yeah. Manuel Rankin: and uh Okay are there any other questions with regards to what this thing's gonna do, look like, how it's gonna work that need to be addressed before we really look at this in a lot of detail? Eddy Dasilva: I don't think so. If we have any questions we'll just email you I guess. Manuel Rankin: Okay. Shaun Myers: Yeah I think it pretty much everything's covered. Manuel Rankin: Okay. This one was quite easy. Shaun Myers: Coulda been worse. Harry Sorg: Still. Manuel Rankin: Always the optimist. Shaun Myers: Yes I am. Manuel Rankin: 'Kay thanks guys. Harry Sorg: Thank you. I don't have any emails. This means I can go home. Oh, we all leave.

Shaun Myers presented an overview of the internal components of a remote control device. He discussed energy source and material options, and suggested that using rubber and plastic would be the most versatile option. He displayed the three options for chips. Eddy Dasilva discussed voice recognition with the group, and the group decided to not use it in their design. He suggested using rubber buttons because of their durability. He discussed the size of the device and the layout of the interface, and suggested that the remote be moderately sized to prevent its getting lost. Harry Sorg expressed concern that the remote lacked enough features to be distinctive. The group had a discussion to decide on the product features. They decided to include a charging stand, to use a thin rubber casing material, to include a locator function and a scroll wheel with two channel-changing options to increase its usability. The group discussed the cost of the various components and decided to sell the device at a point between thirty-five and fifty Euros. Eddy Dasilva and Shaun Myers were instructed to construct the prototype.

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Justin Osborne: Uh 'kay. So Sean Brooks: So so so. Danilo Jones: Put on your mic. Thomas Taylor: So you forgot how this works again? Danilo Jones: Boss. Justin Osborne: Yep. Thomas Taylor: Boss. Sean Brooks: Maybe. Maybe maybe maybe. Justin Osborne: Okay so we're here to talk about the detailed design of the product 'kay? Danilo Jones: Yep. Justin Osborne: And here's the agenda for this meeting. Uh I'm just gonna open, say a few boring words to start with again, and start taking minutes afterwards. You guys are gonna give us a presentation of our wonder product that I can see some demonstrations of over there. Looks cool. And then we're gonna evaluate it. Then Sean Brooks: Bra Justin Osborne: we're gonna talk about finance, and I've got a lovely Excel spreadsheet I knocked up in the last five minutes for this. And Thomas Taylor: Hmm you knocked it up? Justin Osborne: uh yep. And we're gonna evaluate the product and close. Got forty minutes to do this in. We should be fine. Let's try and keep this one on schedule. Danilo Jones: Alright. Justin Osborne: So Your thing is in where Thomas Taylor: Thi Justin Osborne: is it? Is Thomas Taylor: third Danilo Jones: Three, Justin Osborne: it in Thomas Taylor: third third. Danilo Jones: three. Thomas Taylor: The end product thingy. Yeah. Justin Osborne: Who wants it? Danilo Jones: Pedro can have it. I like I'll help talk. Thomas Taylor: Um yeah so what we ended up with. Production costs estimated by our manufacturing department and um the research department, which is us, is uh fifteen point eight Euros, someone forgot the units Danilo Jones: Unit price. Thomas Taylor: there yeah, uh unit price unit production price cost thing. Um we implemented the basic functions, plus the locator, which was one of the marketing things, cradle, scroll wheel for uh the the channels, and uh we implemented the f the the way of putting the new and revolutionary zapping, your favourite channels functionality, in the scroll. Justin Osborne: Zapping your favourite channels, eh? Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Danilo Jones: Scrolling through your favourites list. Justin Osborne: Oh okay okay. Thomas Taylor: Zapping you know zapping. Justin Osborne: Ah 'kay okay, that's Thomas Taylor: Maybe Justin Osborne: favourites. Thomas Taylor: it's just a Portuguese thing. And um yeah that was the result. Justin Osborne: Ah 'kay. I like the the the the logo on there as well. Danilo Jones: It's very prominent. Justin Osborne: It is very prominent. So this is the Danilo Jones: So here I'll give you the so this is the cradle unit, and this is the actual remote itself. Um so the scroll bar is or the scroll wheel is this this green little scrolly guy here, um and then the volume controls are here and here. Justin Osborne: Okay. Danilo Jones: got the keypad which is the numbers uh f from zero to nine and then ten. This is the power button. Uh we have our um we have the enter button and uh what was the other button here? This is the Thomas Taylor: Start Danilo Jones: teletext. Thomas Taylor: s the the start uh to to Danilo Jones: The Thomas Taylor: to Danilo Jones: programme button, Thomas Taylor: programme yeah. Danilo Jones: yeah the Justin Osborne: Ah, Danilo Jones: programme Justin Osborne: okay Danilo Jones: button. Justin Osborne: I see. Danilo Jones: So this bl this button will be used both for the favourites and for programming your uh the um the type of television you wanna use. So um the plastic is the white area of this of the model here, and the red area is like a rubber covering. So Justin Osborne: It's pretty Danilo Jones: you Justin Osborne: cool. Danilo Jones: can see that when it lays like this or like this and the buttons are all gonna be rubber, so it's pretty hard to actually damage it um Justin Osborne: Is that could that be easy to for the scroll wheel to be rotated if it lands on it? Danilo Jones: Yeah that might be a possible a mi uh possible problem, but Thomas Taylor: Not Danilo Jones: if Thomas Taylor: helping. Danilo Jones: you drop it yeah. Justin Osborne: Oh well I guess it depends on the stiffness a little of it. Danilo Jones: Yeah and it depends on if it's sliding, but I think it's pretty ergonomic. You can feel it. Justin Osborne: Mm. Feels good. I take it that this is gonna be slightly lighter in the Danilo Jones: Yeah Justin Osborne: final Danilo Jones: of course. Justin Osborne: design as well. Danilo Jones: Well this is clay. Justin Osborne: Yeah it's kinda cool. You have to reach a little Danilo Jones: Yeah the Justin Osborne: bit don't Danilo Jones: the power Justin Osborne: you. Danilo Jones: button is a bit of a reach, but I think we might scale down the final model a bit. Justin Osborne: Ah yeah Danilo Jones: These Justin Osborne: that wouldn't make sense. Danilo Jones: this is a bit larger than it would be, but Justin Osborne: It's cool. I'm impressed. Thomas Taylor: Don't have no one to handle that. Sean Brooks: Mm Justin Osborne: And hold it Sean Brooks: that's Justin Osborne: so wh what's Sean Brooks: oh Justin Osborne: the Sean Brooks: that's Justin Osborne: marketing perspective? Sean Brooks: oh I like it. I mean you guys gave Sean Brooks more than I was asking for, so I'm happy because we've got some really marketable features in this. Yeah I think it's good. Good good good job. Danilo Jones: Mm Pedro can demonstrate the Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Danilo Jones: the paging ability. Thomas Taylor: So you ha you have like the the base station with um the little button for the where's my remote. Danilo Jones: Beep beep beep. Sean Brooks: Uh pla Thomas Taylor: The locator Sean Brooks: I'm ha Thomas Taylor: function. Sean Brooks: It's Justin Osborne: Okay. Sean Brooks: great. That's great. It's Danilo Jones: Um Sean Brooks: a great feature. Justin Osborne: Mm it's impressing. Danilo Jones: beep beep beep Justin Osborne: So Danilo Jones: so Justin Osborne: let Sean Brooks get it, if I press this button Danilo Jones: beep beep beep Justin Osborne: I see. That's pretty Thomas Taylor: Wicked Justin Osborne: cool. Thomas Taylor: isn't Justin Osborne: Hang on. Danilo Jones: beep Thomas Taylor: it? Danilo Jones: beep beep be shut up. Sean Brooks: So you can take this ho take this home with you Danilo Jones: Beep Sean Brooks: tonight and you can push that and he'll be across town Danilo Jones: beep beep okay. Justin Osborne: I plan to do that as well. Danilo Jones: Um no no no tha Justin Osborne: So Danilo Jones: that's Justin Osborne: the Danilo Jones: alri Justin Osborne: the two blue are are those for the the it to charge off of Danilo Jones: Exactly Justin Osborne: in? Danilo Jones: that's exactly Justin Osborne: Ah okay Danilo Jones: what those are Justin Osborne: okay. Danilo Jones: for. And um there's one other feature that we were debating, but we decided to go against it, is um you could beep beep beep we were thinking that it might be interesting to have a trigger button here because you have this Justin Osborne: Yeah Danilo Jones: finger it Justin Osborne: it's Danilo Jones: it's it kinda Justin Osborne: the Danilo Jones: feels Justin Osborne: right shape Danilo Jones: like Justin Osborne: isn't Danilo Jones: there Justin Osborne: it? Danilo Jones: should be something there, but we couldn't figure out what button is important enough to put there. And we we don't wanna accidentally be hitting the power button like that Justin Osborne: But maybe Danilo Jones: so Justin Osborne: if you had a trigger plus the scroll then Danilo Jones: Mm. Justin Osborne: that would get past the the problem of it landing and scrolling, Danilo Jones: Right. Justin Osborne: 'cause then it would need to be hit on both sides. Danilo Jones: So maybe in a final design phase we might tweak that a little bit, but Justin Osborne: Okay. Sean Brooks: Uh, I Justin Osborne: But it's Sean Brooks: can Justin Osborne: definitely Sean Brooks: see that. Justin Osborne: got options for like different types of models and things as well based Danilo Jones: Mm-hmm. Justin Osborne: on that, hasn't it? Sean Brooks: Yep I like. Good job. Justin Osborne: So is that the the final colour scheme as well or? Danilo Jones: Oh no this is Sean Brooks: No no. Danilo Jones: just what we had to work with at the time. Justin Osborne: Okay. Danilo Jones: So we'll leave the colour scheme up to the marketing people. Justin Osborne: The hmm. Danilo Jones: Careful. Justin Osborne: It came off. The scroll wheels, a problem with them not being sort of Sean Brooks: Well I mean Justin Osborne: I don't Sean Brooks: of Justin Osborne: think Sean Brooks: course, Justin Osborne: the user interface Sean Brooks: I mean Justin Osborne: guy wants to touch it Sean Brooks: My Justin Osborne: anymore. Sean Brooks: my s my suggestion is we're gonna go go to the silvers and blacks like most of the televisions. Justin Osborne: Mm. Sean Brooks: You know some blend of silvers and blacks. Danilo Jones: Beep beep beep. Justin Osborne: Okay enough of that. Well i it's cool guys. 'Kay so are we done with the this presentation? Danilo Jones: Yeah. Thomas Taylor: Ja. Justin Osborne: Okay. Now now. Sean Brooks: So you're not gonna find my uh my folder up there I gotta do mine up at the board. Justin Osborne: Have you? Okay. Sean Brooks: Yeah yeah. So Justin Osborne: Can I not get your get at stuff from your shared folder now? Sean Brooks: No it's not in there because I had the computer problem and I Justin Osborne: Oh I Sean Brooks: I Justin Osborne: see Sean Brooks: I Justin Osborne: I see. Sean Brooks: cou I couldn't create it. I couldn't create it in the PowerPoint, and I think I've got this really strange cable. So what I had, basically going from the PowerPoint format, is that uh yeah yeah I like this a lot. Is this one of the tests is to see how we can adapt to s changing situations in the in the meeting room? Thomas Taylor: Nah. Sean Brooks: So what we had is we had the method. That's not how you spell method, is it? Danilo Jones: No way. Sean Brooks: No A_. So this doesn't go so fast this way. And when I speak about method I speak about the marketing of the product huh. Sean Brooks: And uh to Sean Brooks with this product we got uh we got basically three things to market. We've got the features, we have the uh characteristics, and we have the I I don't know what we would call the other part what we call you know the the the corp corporate Help Sean Brooks. The the corporation stands behind the product, okay. So the features I think we got the scroll, we've got the uh the locator, we've Thomas Taylor: It Sean Brooks: got Thomas Taylor: fell Sean Brooks: the durability, Thomas Taylor: off. Sean Brooks: we've got the dependability, we've got you know the Danilo Jones: Beep Sean Brooks: features Danilo Jones: beep beep. Sean Brooks: that make this a unique product. Um the characteristics I talk about, we have reliability, we have comfort, we have ergonomics, we have environmentally s sensitive. Uh and the corporation, we're talking about we're we're a new we're a new company. We're wanting to make a name for ourself. We're wanting you to uh find our product so we're gonna give you a good product at a fair price. One thing I would want to to see is uh is can we can we get a lifetime uh guarantee on this product, a normal use guarantee, which means that this product, for the for the life of of the life use, if it should have a technical problem, that we could re replace it at no cost? That was something I would be interested in. Um so yeah without uh going into great details, we have a we have a product, it has the features and the characteristics, and the background, I believe, to make it marketable I believe at a cost of of of thirty thirty five to to fifty Euros. We're gonna be competitive, and we're gonna we're gonna have a market niche. Um Justin Osborne: Do you Sean Brooks: w Justin Osborne: would you a argue that that we're better going for the higher cost than bringing it down into twenty f five as we probably could, but lowering our profit margins? Sean Brooks: That that would be uh that would be I think a decision best made by corporate um I I m for my evaluation, based on what our competition is, I th I think that that we can go after this and and and go after more of the uh exclusivity sense than the mass market sense. Justin Osborne: Mm-hmm. Mm 'kay. Sean Brooks: But I'm sh I'm sure open to to market this in either direction. But you guys came up with a great product, and at that cost I think it uh there's nobody else that's putting this this combination of of ingredients together. The only limitations I see to this is that we're focused on television only. Uh that's the only that's the only drawback I see to this. But with all of these other features I think people c one thing I'm I'm hoping for is people are not gonna even notice. There's gonna be somebody going home and say oh sh this thing doesn't work for my D_V_D_ and my but I like these other things, so they keep it, they don't take it Justin Osborne: And Sean Brooks: back. Justin Osborne: we're actually quite open to be able to expand the product for a later version with those features quite simply anyway, aren't we? Th there's no fundamentally different technology Sean Brooks: Well one of Justin Osborne: to do Sean Brooks: one Justin Osborne: that. Sean Brooks: of the thoughts that I had is can can this unit be be produced in a way that makes it upgradable? You know Justin Osborne: Hmm. Sean Brooks: uh like like a um a sim card in a in a um in a telephone. You know is there a card in th can we make a card and so after Thomas Taylor: W we need we need we need s some more buttons if it would to work on some other stuff, Danilo Jones: Mm-hmm. Thomas Taylor: but Sean Brooks: Mm-hmm, but you follow what Thomas Taylor: We Sean Brooks: I'm s I'm Thomas Taylor: we Sean Brooks: s Thomas Taylor: w yeah we could get another version of it that actually works. Sean Brooks: Yeah 'cause Thomas Taylor: But Sean Brooks: if Thomas Taylor: uh Sean Brooks: if we can make this unit upgradable then we're yeah but then we talk about changing the warranty concept and everything, but that's that was just an idea I had. Uh to Sean Brooks Justin Osborne: Yeah, Sean Brooks: the only Justin Osborne: the Sean Brooks: additions Justin Osborne: plus there's the the risk of making it unusable as well, or making it less b because at the moment it's actually very straightforward to look at all the buttons, you know what they do, it's very Sean Brooks: Yeah. Justin Osborne: simple, and it just works. Sean Brooks: Yep. Justin Osborne: Mm there's a risk of that. Sean Brooks: But anyway that's uh Justin Osborne: Okay so we can talk about finance now. So I have a little spreadsheet for us where I I was wondering, you when you talked about the fifteen point eight Euros, I was wondering how you came up with that figure? Danilo Jones: Well, that was just just our technical team added up the um production costs of the individual units. Justin Osborne: Okay so I have bit of a spreadsheet here for this. Thomas Taylor: Very Danilo Jones: Oh. Thomas Taylor: co Justin Osborne: Now Thomas Taylor: very colf Justin Osborne: I've Thomas Taylor: colourful. Justin Osborne: made a f few assumptions here in that I'm assuming that our power adaptor Danilo Jones: Uh-huh. Justin Osborne: we can make for a cost of four Euros, equivalent to solar cells, which I think is probably fair considering that we have in-house manufacturing of power adaptors already. Danilo Jones: Uh-huh. Justin Osborne: Uh and I'm assuming that the locator beacon, the you know the Sean Brooks: Mm-hmm. Danilo Jones: Yeah. Thomas Taylor: beep beep beep. Justin Osborne: Can be made for it sounded different that time uh can be made Danilo Jones: Oh, Justin Osborne: for Danilo Jones: sorry. Justin Osborne: a similar price to uh an L_C_ display, uh an uh Uh do you think that's fair coming from a m the manufacturing? Danilo Jones: Yeah um I do think we that we we uh don't need the events chip on print, we only need the uh the regular chip on print, so Justin Osborne: Okay. Danilo Jones: there may have been a m miscalculation Justin Osborne: Yep. Danilo Jones: in there. Justin Osborne: Okay. So we're down to sixteen point Danilo Jones: And Justin Osborne: four, Danilo Jones: we Justin Osborne: yeah. Danilo Jones: and we have a single-curved uh Justin Osborne: Is that a single-curved rather than a double-curved? Danilo Jones: Uh I think that Justin Osborne: We're not entirely sure what single-curve Sean Brooks: We've got a we've Justin Osborne: versus Sean Brooks: got a curve Justin Osborne: double-cur Sean Brooks: and a droop. I don't know whether that. Danilo Jones: It's single-curved, Justin Osborne: You think? Okay Danilo Jones: yeah. Justin Osborne: I'm convinced. But we save one Euro that way, yeah? So we come bring it down to Fifteen Danilo Jones: See it's a little Justin Osborne: point Danilo Jones: bit Justin Osborne: four. Danilo Jones: more than f single-curved. So yeah it's fifteen point eight, that's where we came up with it. Justin Osborne: Well hang on. Do don't speak so Danilo Jones: Okay. Justin Osborne: it's in here, in that w do we have any we have special form don't we? Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Danilo Jones: Yeah we do. Justin Osborne: So that's yeah. Danilo Jones: Ah. Justin Osborne: But Danilo Jones: What do Justin Osborne: the Danilo Jones: you know. Justin Osborne: the the we haven't talked about any special colour though uh I don't th Danilo Jones: Oh it's a that's Justin Osborne: think Danilo Jones: not Justin Osborne: we're Danilo Jones: very special, it's pretty Justin Osborne: O okay so we're Push-button, Danilo Jones: If Thomas Taylor: We don't Justin Osborne: scroll wheel, we're basically Danilo Jones: th. Justin Osborne: we have uh th is this intended to be a button as well or just a scroll? Thomas Taylor: It's a scroll. Danilo Jones: That's a scroll. Justin Osborne: Just a scroll? It's not one of the scrolls where, for example, with this one you could push it down to be a button? Danilo Jones: Uh no we just Sean Brooks: Ooh. Danilo Jones: use it as a scroll. Justin Osborne: Okay then we have fifteen point eight Euros. Danilo Jones: It was a pretty accurate estimate I Justin Osborne: It Danilo Jones: would Thomas Taylor: Yes. Justin Osborne: wasn't Danilo Jones: say. Justin Osborne: bad. Thomas Taylor: We're wicked. Danilo Jones: Yeah. Thomas Taylor: Awesome. Justin Osborne: Okay so we're on Danilo Jones: S Justin Osborne: to Danilo Jones: 's Justin Osborne: the Danilo Jones: kind of s frighteningly accurate. Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Justin Osborne: We're on to the pat-on-the-back part of the presentation, where we have a look at the criterias th that Paul the criterion criteria that Paul has has given us, and we can use that to tell How's it going? Anyone got any Danilo Jones: What? Justin Osborne: thoughts? How how have we done today? Danilo Jones: I think we did pretty well. Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Justin Osborne: I think we did pretty well too. That looks pretty spectacular. Sean Brooks: No, I think we come up with a with a attractive marketable um product and and concept. Justin Osborne: Any other chang uh thoughts? Justin Osborne: Okay so th th what about um room for creativity? Thomas Taylor: That Justin Osborne: Is Thomas Taylor: was Justin Osborne: it Thomas Taylor: mm-hmm Danilo Jones: Sh Justin Osborne: the. Danilo Jones: I think there was plenty of room. Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Justin Osborne: I I think we we Danilo Jones: We got Justin Osborne: ended Danilo Jones: a couple Justin Osborne: up being Danilo Jones: innovative Justin Osborne: quite creative Danilo Jones: i Justin Osborne: there. Sean Brooks: Yeah well Danilo Jones: Couple Sean Brooks: we Danilo Jones: innovative ideas. Sean Brooks: we we kinda broke we kinda at least adjusted every every criteria they gave us because we Justin Osborne: Mm. Sean Brooks: d we still have the the teletext capability in this thing right, Thomas Taylor: No. Danilo Jones: Mm-hmm. Sean Brooks: we raised the price of it, Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Sean Brooks: we've added two t new technology to it. So you know you know if this thing flies then we've we've adjusted or broken every every idea they gave us. Justin Osborne: Not Thomas Taylor: Basically. Justin Osborne: every idea necessarily, it's still a remote control. Sean Brooks: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Justin Osborne: Uh no yeah but we did we did break with the specs a little bit I guess, but the uh Sean Brooks: But I like I mean when I say we have we had I believe we have room for creativity 'cause w this is we did it. Justin Osborne: 'Kay leadership, what do we report back to the bosses? No th th I think they were r reasonably flexible with us over the whole changing the specs thing. Thomas Taylor: It Danilo Jones: Yep. Thomas Taylor: was more of a teamwork thing then really leadership based Justin Osborne: I agree. Thomas Taylor: project was Teamwork. Sean Brooks: Cohesive yeah. Justin Osborne: Synergy. Sean Brooks: Yes synergistic yeah. Danilo Jones: There was a lot of synergy. Justin Osborne: Teamwork, yeah he is uh. Sean Brooks: Yeah. Justin Osborne: What did we think of the meeting room, I guess is an important thing here. Danilo Jones: These Justin Osborne: Mm. Danilo Jones: cables suck. Justin Osborne: Yeah, Thomas Taylor: Yeah. Justin Osborne: this falls off and Danilo Jones: Yep. Justin Osborne: uh Thomas Taylor: And Justin Osborne: the Thomas Taylor: that's Justin Osborne: white board worked really well without Danilo Jones: Yeah. Justin Osborne: any Thomas Taylor: D you must Justin Osborne: pro Thomas Taylor: have very long shirts. That's way far down lapel mic. Justin Osborne: Mm-mm, lapel. Wha Thomas Taylor: Lapel lapel Danilo Jones: Lapel. Justin Osborne: okay, Thomas Taylor: lapel. Justin Osborne: oh, alright. Thomas Taylor: That's almost a crotch mi cr Justin Osborne: That's it's down, it's quite close. Sean Brooks: You know you know what they're gonna Justin Osborne: Keep Sean Brooks: have Justin Osborne: it, Sean Brooks: on the recording Justin Osborne: keep it Sean Brooks: in Justin Osborne: calm. Sean Brooks: there from that microphone is your lunch digesting you know th Thomas Taylor: Oh dear Justin Osborne: Oh dear. Thomas Taylor: oh dear. Justin Osborne: No more pizza for Sean Brooks. So yeah the the pen came in alright and it's a little uncomfortable to use but I guess it works. Thomas Taylor: 'Cause this is you were using it o upside down. Still that Danilo Jones: That's our boss. Justin Osborne: Nah, I'm I'm not convinced of that at all. I've been wor I've been wondering about that all day, but see these look like they're that looks the oth Thomas Taylor: Use them Justin Osborne: that Thomas Taylor: like Justin Osborne: looks Thomas Taylor: that. Justin Osborne: like it would be that way around, Danilo Jones: Pedro's right. Justin Osborne: but it feels more comfortable, wh what Danilo Jones: Pedro's Justin Osborne: you call upside-down. Danilo Jones: right. Justin Osborne: I don't care. Uh okay so that data might be slightly invalid. What new ideas have we found? Danilo Jones: Oh Sean Brooks: New ideas Danilo Jones: wel Sean Brooks: f uh for the product or for the the the the environment or what Justin Osborne: Well Sean Brooks: are we Justin Osborne: let's Sean Brooks: ta Justin Osborne: do both then. Uh for the product? Danilo Jones: Well we had the favourites list, and the scroll bar, and we have the cradle, and the r uh remote Sean Brooks: Oh. Danilo Jones: call feature. Justin Osborne: Yeah we came up with quite a bit. Thomas Taylor: Bunch of new ideas. Justin Osborne: And for the meeting room, Has anyone got any more Thomas Taylor: Yeah comfortable headsets would be nice. Justin Osborne: Yeah Sean Brooks: Well Justin Osborne: less Sean Brooks: I Justin Osborne: sore Sean Brooks: I mean Justin Osborne: on Thomas Taylor: Mm. Justin Osborne: the ears. Sean Brooks: clearly remote control microphones would be the would be a nice solution to all these cables, but I'm sure that there's there's some justification for these things that I don't know about. And of course I did not have so much fun with my computer this afternoon. It's not been uh it's not been cooperating so well, but I don't think that's the that's avoidable. Thomas Taylor: Coulda been worse. Justin Osborne: Okay so Are the costs within the budget? Thomas Taylor: Mm Sean Brooks: No. Thomas Taylor: n Justin Osborne: Nope. Thomas Taylor: no. Justin Osborne: Oh hang on it really that's something we that the costs were under twelve fifty Euros. No requirements are changed. We're still under twenty Euros to build, so we're good. And the costs within the budget? Not the original budget, but they are now. Is the project evaluated? Mm I think so yeah, then celebration Thomas Taylor: Hooray. Justin Osborne: as it says. Sean Brooks: Okay. Thomas Taylor: Free coke provided at the cafeteria. Danilo Jones: All right. Justin Osborne: Oh I don't know how that got there. Uh anyway. Thomas Taylor: Who wrote Justin Osborne: Thank Thomas Taylor: that one? Sean Brooks: So we need to Justin Osborne: Thanks Sean Brooks: close Justin Osborne: guys. Sean Brooks: this meeting, yeah bravo. Congratulations. Thomas Taylor: Cool. Danilo Jones: Good job guys. Sean Brooks: S I've got a lot of paperwork to catch up on so let's close this and come back Justin Osborne: Yeah, I've got a lot of paperwork Sean Brooks: and 'kay. Justin Osborne: to catch up on too. Oh.

Danilo Jones and Thomas Taylor presented the prototype to the group and displayed all of its components. They demonstrated how the locator function operates. They suggested that a trigger button should be included in a later designing phase to improve the feel of the product. Sean Brooks gave an evaluation of the product and felt that it satisfied his criteria. He suggested including a lifetime guarantee and expressed concern that the remote would only be used for televisions. Justin Osborne discussed the final production cost with the group; after an analysis of all of the components the final cost was 15.8 Euros. Justin Osborne then led a discussion about the group's experience on the project. The group felt that they worked well together and that they had room to be creative, but only after they changed many of the initial specifications. They also had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment. They were satisfied with the increased final cost and budget.

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David Johnson: So we can start? Samuel Corbett: Yeah. David Johnson: Suppose I have to do my presentation. David Bowe: Ah okay. David Johnson: Eh um David Bowe: It's Ada Longmund? David Johnson: So, I'll present myself, I'm Ada Longmund, and as you may know it, I'm the pr project manager. So um we will have to um speak about m the project. Our project project is to create um a new remote control and as you may know there's lot of industrials interesting in creating a remote control, so the remote control has to be original, trendy and um user-friendly. Record. So method is the following. So if we're um the functional design, you have to do uh any individual work and uh also work with uh meetings talking with each other. Uh it will be the same for the conceptual design and also the same for the detailed design. Uh. The tool training is to try out the white board, Samuel Corbett: Mm-hmm. David Johnson: so David Bowe: Maybe someone ha we have to this whiteboard, yeah? David Johnson: Maybe you can draw your favourite animal and Samuel Corbett: So David Johnson: make Samuel Corbett: right David Johnson: a Samuel Corbett: now? David Johnson: list of its favourite characteristics. I don't know if we have to do Daniel Guerrero: So David Johnson: it Daniel Guerrero: yeah David Johnson: now, Daniel Guerrero: I think David Johnson: maybe Daniel Guerrero: you can David Johnson: later Daniel Guerrero: do it. David Johnson: later. David Bowe: Yeah, I don't know. David Johnson: So the selling price of the product will be twenty five Euros. Daniel Guerrero: Twenty five Samuel Corbett: Mm. David Johnson: Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Euros? David Johnson: Yeah. I think it's quite David Bowe: I it's David Johnson: good David Bowe: it's David Johnson: price, David Bowe: reasonable, s Samuel Corbett: It's David Bowe: quite David Johnson: yeah. David Bowe: yeah. Samuel Corbett: reasonable, I think, David Bowe: Twenty Samuel Corbett: yeah. David Bowe: five. David Johnson: And uh David Bowe: Is David Johnson: it will uh be a an international remote control, as we want to sell it in the entire world, and the product costs will be not more than twelve Euros and fifty centimes. So, as you will discuss about the remote control you will have to experience your um with the remote control. Um just uh maybe be imaginative with remote const con controls, try to create something new and people would like to to buy. And and the next meeting will start in thirty minutes, so you'll ha all have your spethisfispis specif specific role and you know I suppose you know what you have to do. And David Bowe: Yeah. I I hope David Johnson: uh David Bowe: so David Johnson: you will have to work on the design and also to work on the design of th technical fun functions of the remote control and think of the user requirement specifications. Samuel Corbett: Those things just refer to each of each of us, I think. Daniel Guerrero: Yep. David Johnson: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: AMI and okay. David Johnson: I_D_, yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. David Johnson: So David Bowe: I_D_ is for the Industrial Design, yeah? Samuel Corbett: Okay. David Bowe: And U_I_D_, it's for Daniel Guerrero, Daniel Guerrero: That's Samuel Corbett. Samuel Corbett: Okay, and Marketing David Bowe: yeah? Samuel Corbett: Expert, it's Samuel Corbett. David Bowe: AMI yeah project. David Johnson: So I will manage all all David Bowe: you David Johnson: the group. David Bowe: will be the manager Samuel Corbett: You can manage all this, David Bowe: yeah Samuel Corbett: yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. Samuel Corbett: Good. David Johnson: So you have questions? Samuel Corbett: Um. Not really. David Johnson: So you all know what the parts of the work you have to do. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: So which you, David Bowe. Daniel Guerrero: No I'm user David Bowe: I am the Daniel Guerrero: interf David Bowe: Industrial Design, Daniel Guerrero: I'm user David Bowe: yeah Daniel Guerrero: interface design. Samuel Corbett: Okay. David Johnson: Mm-hmm. And you? David Bowe: I am David Bowe so. David Johnson: Mm okay. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. Samuel Corbett: Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: So what's the difference between user interface design David Johnson: Hmm. Daniel Guerrero: d Samuel Corbett: I mean, you Daniel Guerrero: industrial Samuel Corbett: have to know. Daniel Guerrero: design? Samuel Corbett: Ah, you have to know it. David Bowe: It's difficult. Samuel Corbett: It's your job, I hope you you know what it is. David Bowe: You know very soon. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah, I think so. David Bowe: So Samuel Corbett: Mm. David Johnson: I suppose you have to design it and you have to take care of the industrial way to transform Daniel Guerrero: Okay, so David Johnson: it. Daniel Guerrero: I make uh Samuel Corbett: Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: u user interface. You you David Johnson: And i maybe Daniel Guerrero: de you David Johnson: you Daniel Guerrero: implement David Johnson: will transform Daniel Guerrero: the David Johnson: it. Daniel Guerrero: core functions David Bowe: I I Daniel Guerrero: in David Bowe: think Daniel Guerrero: the David Bowe: the user the user interface design is he will design how the user will Daniel Guerrero: Use David Bowe: you know the Daniel Guerrero: it. David Bowe: relation between the user and Daniel Guerrero: Make David Bowe: you know Daniel Guerrero: make David Bowe: the remote Daniel Guerrero: yeah. David Bowe: control so And the uh industrial design, it is how the object will look like. Daniel Guerrero: Maybe I think David Bowe: Yeah. So the materi Daniel Guerrero: design. I design the user f user interface, you design the function. David Johnson: Maybe, it is the outside and the inside. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: Okay. David Bowe: Okay Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Bowe: right. But I was thinking that he's a user 'cause the user interface to design for example where the but button will be, you know. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah yeah. David Bowe: But I don't know. Okay. Samuel Corbett: Well. You know. David Bowe: I'm David Bowe. Samuel Corbett: Oh, okay, okay. Not the other one. David Bowe: So. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Bowe: Okay. So and Samuel Corbett will Samuel Corbett: Yeah, I'm just go I'm trying to give you some trends about what should be done and what the users would like to have David Johnson: And Samuel Corbett: and then David Johnson: yeah. Samuel Corbett: thi this would I guess converged to Daniel Guerrero wi and then Industrial David Bowe: Ok Samuel Corbett: Designer. David Bowe: Okay. David Johnson: And when designing y the remote control just remember that uh it has to be a kind of international product. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: So you don't have to do something really specific, Daniel Guerrero: Mm-hmm. David Johnson: as Samuel Corbett: Mm. David Johnson: everybody everybody will have to use it, it's sor the same as keyboards. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. David Johnson: You know, you have Qwerty, Azerty, French and U_K_ Daniel Guerrero: Mm. David Johnson: keyboard, Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. David Johnson: so really the remote control to be international. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. Samuel Corbett: Mm-hmm. David Johnson: And not too expensive. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. And uh simple. David Johnson: As we want to Daniel Guerrero: And David Johnson: maximise Daniel Guerrero: easy to David Johnson: the Daniel Guerrero: use. David Johnson: benefit. Samuel Corbett: And you have to keep it under twelve Euros and f David Johnson: Yeah, Samuel Corbett: fifty, Daniel Guerrero: Ah, David Johnson: you Samuel Corbett: so. David Johnson: have to Daniel Guerrero: yeah. David Johnson: keep in mind that Samuel Corbett: That's the David Bowe: It should Samuel Corbett: problem. David Johnson: the David Bowe: be David Johnson: product cost won't be maxim more Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: than twelve dot fifty Euros. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: And to be sure that really people will be interested in buying a new remote control with maybe new functionalities that don't exist in the mm existing remote controls now. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: So, is it okay? Samuel Corbett: Mm. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: It's clear. David Bowe: There was a step about drawing something in the in the board, I don't know. Samuel Corbett: Yeah, maybe should go and draw an animal. David Bowe: Is it? Are we supposed to do right now? Daniel Guerrero: Yeah yeah, you try. Try David Bowe: Oh Daniel Guerrero: first. David Bowe: right it's it's from the left to the ri It's David Johnson: So you think we have to do it now? David Bowe: I d I was thinking but I n I'm not sure now. Daniel Guerrero: You can draw something which is very simple. David Bowe: Oh David Johnson: You want Samuel Corbett to draw something? David Bowe: Everybody David Johnson: Product manager okay, Daniel Guerrero: Oh, maybe we should David Johnson: let's Daniel Guerrero: bring David Johnson: go, Daniel Guerrero: Kemy David Johnson: I will try. Daniel Guerrero: here. Kemy Samuel Corbett: Many Daniel Guerrero: is really good at drawing. David Bowe: I think everybody should do it, so. Samuel Corbett: Yeah. David Bowe: It's not matter So. Daniel Guerrero: You're going to draw? Okay. Samuel Corbett: Uh it's the same as mine. David Bowe: yeah. It's Daniel Guerrero: What's David Bowe: a Daniel Guerrero: this? David Bowe: It's a cat. Daniel Guerrero: It's a fat cat. David Bowe: It is not a fat cat. Samuel Corbett: It's the fat cat, okay. David Bowe: Yeah, it is a Daniel Guerrero: Can you draw uh um rabbit? Oh, hat ha rat. Samuel Corbett: A rat? Daniel Guerrero: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: That's difficult. David Bowe: Yes you have to draw a rat if you want David Johnson: No. David Bowe: a rat. David Johnson: A mouse is not David Bowe: It's David Johnson: too difficult. David Bowe: your David Johnson: Mouse David Bowe: rat. David Johnson: is okay. Daniel Guerrero: Yeah, it's okay. Samuel Corbett: Yeah. Just go, you you David Bowe: Okay, Samuel Corbett: the closest David Bowe: go Samuel Corbett: to the whiteboard. Daniel Guerrero: Mm. Samuel Corbett: Jus David Bowe: right, but in grow, it's everybody Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Bowe: has to grow Samuel Corbett: Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Oh. Okay, I draw. The only thing I can draw is like this. Oh. Oh. Oh. Samuel Corbett: A duck. Daniel Guerrero: No. David Bowe: What Daniel Guerrero: What's David Bowe: are Daniel Guerrero: this? David Bowe: you I don no idea, David Johnson: You David Bowe: so David Johnson: love the eyes. Yeah, that was the eyes. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: A clown. Rabbit. David Bowe: It's a rabbit. Samuel Corbett: Pikachu. David Johnson: It's a rabbit. Samuel Corbett: Oh yeah. Bugs Bunny one. David Johnson: Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Bowe: It's not so bad so. Daniel Guerrero: The only thing I can draw, because it's very simple. Samuel Corbett: Okay. I go. Samuel Corbett: What? Oh. So what else? This was my favourite one, but David Bowe: So you don't have a David Johnson: Thank you. David Bowe: A fish. Samuel Corbett: Right. A David Bowe: That's a Samuel Corbett: fish. David Bowe: that's a fish? Okay, let's try to draw something. David Johnson: You forgot the chips. Samuel Corbett: Oh yeah, doesn't look so fine. David Bowe: Have to be really careful. David Johnson: Fish and chips. Samuel Corbett: Okay, David Bowe: Ah Samuel Corbett: it's your turn. Daniel Guerrero: Oh. David Bowe: it's my turn. Daniel Guerrero: Okay, be careful. David Bowe: Okay. So. David Johnson: Of Daniel Guerrero: No problem, no problem. David Bowe: It's ok So, what can I draw some more? David Johnson: Oh. David Bowe: No. David Bowe: Mm David Bowe: Yeah, it's it's a se it's my priority this one. Yeah. Samuel Corbett: Mm. Daniel Guerrero: A person? David Bowe: No. It's a really crazy dog Daniel Guerrero: Dog. David Johnson: Oh yeah. David Bowe: Okay. Samuel Corbett: Good. David Bowe: Transfer. It's a dog in a village. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Bowe: So what are you sug going to do now? Samuel Corbett: I think it's done. David Johnson: Yeah, David Bowe: It's done? David Johnson: I think Samuel Corbett: Yeah. David Johnson: yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. David Johnson: Just have to Daniel Guerrero: So we David Johnson: present Daniel Guerrero: have break. David Johnson: project, discuss a little bit about it. David Bowe: Oh my God. Samuel Corbett: Oh, we have twenty five minutes for the meeting. David Johnson: Yeah. Samuel Corbett: Okay. David Johnson: So, Daniel Guerrero: Oh. David Johnson: if you have questions. Daniel Guerrero: Hmm. Samuel Corbett: Know what time is it? No. Daniel Guerrero: No. David Johnson: It's okay? David Bowe: Yeah, it's okay. David Johnson: You know your job? you know your job? David Bowe: We have David Johnson: You David Bowe: an David Johnson: know David Bowe: idea David Johnson: your job? David Bowe: yeah. I have an idea of my job so David Johnson: Okay. David Bowe: yeah so. Yeah. Daniel Guerrero: Okay. Samuel Corbett: Good.

David Johnson introduced the upcoming project to the team members and discussed the roles of each member and the selling price for the remote they will produce. Then the team participated in an exercise in which they all drew animals.

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Michael Smith: So, I will open our functional design meeting. Willie Davis: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: So, I will play role of the secretary. As also Program Ma Manager. So, we will have the three presentations from the In William Keen: Industrial Michael Smith: Industrial William Keen: Design. Michael Smith: Designer, User Interface Designer and um Willie Davis: Marketing Michael Smith: What's your Willie Davis: Expert. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: talk? Marketing Experts. Willie Davis: Mm. Michael Smith: And after that we uh will have the uh new product requirements, the decision on the remote control functions, and we will close the meetings after. Mm so um I suppose the first to do the presentation will be John Morosow. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: Um, so you're participant two? William Keen: One one. John Morosow: No no no. Michael Smith: No you're John Morosow: One. Michael Smith: No, I'm William Keen: Three three, Michael Smith: participant William Keen: it's three sorry. John Morosow: I Michael Smith: one. John Morosow: I think I'm a. Michael Smith: Okay, never mind. Willie Davis: Okay. Michael Smith: 'Kay, did you save your presentation? John Morosow: In one. William Keen: In one, sorry. Willie Davis: Yeah Michael Smith: Isn't that technical functions? Willie Davis: No sure. William Keen: So you didn't save it maybe. John Morosow: It's mine. Willie Davis: Uh William Keen: Alright, Willie Davis: it's William Keen: so Willie Davis: David Michael Smith: Name's Jordan. Willie Davis: Jordan. Course. Michael Smith: So William Keen: David Jordan? John Morosow: Mm yeah. William Keen: Mm-hmm. Willie Davis: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: so I'll I let David Jordan do his presentation. John Morosow: Okay. Willie Davis: No, no. Uh this one doesn't want Michael Smith: Uh. Willie Davis: to be moved, I William Keen: Too Willie Davis: think. William Keen: great for John Morosow: Okay, William Keen: email John Morosow: so. William Keen: then. John Morosow: The first I will present the technical function design for user interface for our uh remote T_V_ control. William Keen: Yeah. John Morosow: Uh I I will focus on user interface design. Um Michael Smith: Mm. John Morosow: so move to the next slide. As we know our remote c rem remote T_V_ control it's very has very soph sophisticated functions, as we show from this picture. Over, I think over s twelve or twenty s functions of a remote T_V_ control. So how can we um design a user interface with so sa with so many sophisticated functions? Um, let's move to next slide. Um. Yeah. So I so we want to design uh elegant, easy to use inter interface. A very good example is Google. As we know uh Google it's a very successful because his um powerful function, but with very easy to use user interface. Um so move to next s slide. So my job is to uh design a Google T_V_ controller which I want to have sophisticated functions while with very easy to use user interface. So That's the end of the talk the end of the presentation. Michael Smith: So you propose to to have the John Morosow: Uh Michael Smith: remote control which will be John Morosow: With sophisticated Michael Smith: powerful. John Morosow: functions, but Michael Smith: So John Morosow: with Michael Smith: powerful, John Morosow: very yeah powerful. Michael Smith: many functions John Morosow: Yes. Michael Smith: and very easy to use. John Morosow: Yep. Willie Davis: So, I dunno, it's maybe difficult to William Keen: To merge the Willie Davis: have William Keen: two system Willie Davis: both, William Keen: huh. Willie Davis: I mean the John Morosow: Yeah. Willie Davis: the one on the right doesn't look so simple and Yeah. Michael Smith: You mean this one? Willie Davis: Yeah. Michael Smith: Yeah you have to learn the manual before using this remote control, I suppose. William Keen: Mm yep. But John Morosow: But if we William Keen: But John Morosow: have William Keen: this John Morosow: very William Keen: is John Morosow: very good user interface William Keen: Yeah. John Morosow: it Willie Davis: Yeah, John Morosow: take Willie Davis: and John Morosow: less Willie Davis: then John Morosow: time Willie Davis: Yeah. John Morosow: for user to learn how to use it. William Keen: Yeah you maybe you have some international standards, where you know, if you can use one is the other are or almost the same, so the sign. Michael Smith: Oh you mean for the yeah pic William Keen: Yeah, Michael Smith: pictograms or things like William Keen: yeah. Michael Smith: that? William Keen: For example, I dunno here, escape, you know, you have escape in computers you have, so if you see escape, you know that it should be Willie Davis: Oh William Keen: the Willie Davis: it William Keen: same. Willie Davis: should okay, yeah. William Keen: So Willie Davis: The William Keen: you Willie Davis: user William Keen: have Willie Davis: should know. William Keen: to The sh the user there for example the power off button it is something very international, you know that So. Michael Smith: Yeah um such as maybe the William Keen: Yeah. So. Michael Smith: Go on, go back and William Keen: Yeah, but the question is how to merge you know the Google system to the system, alright. Willie Davis: Yeah, John Morosow: Yeah, that's Willie Davis: that's John Morosow: my Willie Davis: gonna John Morosow: job. Willie Davis: be the trick. William Keen: That's your John Morosow: That's my William Keen: job John Morosow: job. It's not the easiest I've got to. William Keen: It you Michael Smith: So, you will propose us something which is yeah so powerful and easy to use. John Morosow: Yep. Michael Smith: Okay. Willie Davis: Okay. John Morosow: Powerful and easy to use. Willie Davis: So that's the point. John Morosow: Yeah, that's the point. Michael Smith: So, next I propose the Industrial User William Keen: Okay, Michael Smith: Interface to William Keen: okay. Michael Smith: present things. So you you're William Keen: Participant two. Yeah. Michael Smith: Um. Okay. William Keen: The rationale Michael Smith: So, William Keen: must Michael Smith: Baba is the uh the William Keen: be Michael Smith: Industrial William Keen: design, or Michael Smith: Designer. Okay. William Keen: So we can move to the next slide. As you all know, you know m my job is to design you know uh to give an industrial design of the remote control. So the re basically the remote control will be, you know, infrared control, so Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. William Keen: the problem is how to relate the how to relate the remote control device, like for example this one I h I'm holding in my hand and the T_V_. So, this one is leather bu based but Willie Davis: Mm. William Keen: I propose a nifra infrared base you know, so so for Willie Davis I think that it is better it's bet it's better to control T_V_ so you know, so it's it will be cheaper and it is less technology than, you know For the cheap price we have, for the cheap price we want to Willie Davis: True. Michael Smith: So you mean that infrared control is a cheap technology? William Keen: I think it's cheaper than laser, so. Michael Smith: Yeah. Willie Davis: Okay. Michael Smith: Do y you know the requirements for the remote control? Twelve, Willie Davis: What Michael Smith: nearly thirteen, Willie Davis: the cost Michael Smith: yeah. Willie Davis: is? Michael Smith: The William Keen: Yeah, Michael Smith: cost William Keen: I think Willie Davis: Twelve, William Keen: for the Willie Davis: twelve William Keen: cost Willie Davis: a William Keen: we Willie Davis: half. William Keen: want for the cost we want it's better to have uh uh Let's see. Yeah. You can move to the next slide, so. So the di the differen the findings you know what you find inside the re i the the system here inside it is just, you know a bulb and an infrared bulb, so here for example the infrared bulb will be here Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. William Keen: and the bulb it will be somewhere inside. Willie Davis: That might William Keen: You can go Michael Smith: Okay. William Keen: to Willie Davis: just William Keen: the next slide. I have Willie Davis: So. William Keen: some kind of pictures you know, here. You have the b the bulb, it is a blue the blue stuff here and Michael Smith: Yeah. William Keen: the infrared and the infrared bulb it is the red stuff you know and so and you have the other subcomponent that are not really here so important, so. Michael Smith: What is this? William Keen: This is in fact some other component that are in between the electrical de the electronic Michael Smith: Okay. William Keen: device. Look. But here what I wanted to emphasise it is just you know the bulb and. Michael Smith: Okay. William Keen: So and the next slide, it is the last one it's So it's I think it should be wire wireless re remote con Because you know, it's easier to manage and you know because you f the b the the battery problem can hold you know will you use a battery or the a wire to connected you. Or maybe some kind of thing that we can have both, but you know, I at my side prefer a wireless. Michael Smith: Okay. William Keen: Okay, so Willie Davis: Okay. William Keen: if you have some question I didn't answer? Willie Davis: What's the average price of this technology then? William Keen: Well the avera the average prices I think that this technology will cost, I dunno, around eight Euros, so. Or at least you know, the John Morosow: So what, the wireless remote control? There's a wire with remote control? William Keen: You'd yes, you can. It's so so bres you have to decide how how you will you know, put some energy inside, so you can think about wireless or you know it's it's a question that we can raise, so. We can think that you know, with the wire, you know, without a wire. We can have both also. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: So you think that uh a cable between the remote control and the T_V_ John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: won't be a good John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: idea. No it wou maybe it will be cheaper I dunno, I just may maybe you making Willie Davis: But this Michael Smith: a solu Willie Davis: is what you would like to ask the user first and I don't think the user would be ready to have a Michael Smith: Yeah, John Morosow: Wireless remote control. Michael Smith: but William Keen: Yeah, but Willie Davis: I don't William Keen: some Willie Davis: think William Keen: pa Willie Davis: well, yeah, I don't think he William Keen: I always Willie Davis: would, William Keen: want to Willie Davis: but William Keen: have you Willie Davis: in William Keen: know, Willie Davis: a William Keen: sometime Willie Davis: sense William Keen: I want to have wire because Michael Smith: Yeah William Keen: you Michael Smith: but William Keen: know. Michael Smith: as Industrial Designer, do you think that it will be feasible to have uh linked or to have link between the remote control and the television? I'm just asking you. Do you think it will be cheaper? William Keen: Uh, I don't think it will be too much. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: Could you answer please? William Keen: Have to think about the question, you know, 'cause it's I Michael Smith: Okay. William Keen: think that you know you can always you know I think wha wha with the wire it's mm cheaper but you know the wireless it's more practical, so. Michael Smith: Yeah, but I think the wireless problem is more the um David Jordan's problem. John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: As it's Willie Davis: The wire? Michael Smith: yeah. Willie Davis: Yeah. True. William Keen: Okay, Michael Smith: I think William Keen: yeah. Michael Smith: it's more your problem. Mayb maybe you have just to to kind of research or John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: try to ask people if they will like something wireless or not. Willie Davis: Uh that's my job. That's the Michael Smith: Okay, I'm sorry. So Willie Davis: Now the William Keen: Yeah but, it should be an agreement, you know, because even if you can think of the wireless, it is it's it is the job of the the the g Graphical User Designer, but you know. If it is a lot cheaper and if you want to reach for example some the the money you have, if you want to use, so it can be good to have a wireless, it it is a question. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: So just think of um the usability. John Morosow: Design a wireless Michael Smith: Yeah. John Morosow: remote control. Michael Smith: Just think of the problem. If when you have wireless remote control and if you lose John Morosow: Yeah. Michael Smith: it? Willie Davis: Yeah. Michael Smith: I think it's would be easier to have a link between the remote control and Willie Davis: Well that's actually one of the Michael Smith: the Willie Davis: point, Michael Smith: television, Willie Davis: yeah? Michael Smith: yeah. Willie Davis: True. This you will see in my presentation then. Michael Smith: So I will let you Willie Davis: Yeah. Michael Smith: to do William Keen: Okay. Michael Smith: your presentation, so. Willie Davis: Which is participant four. So just trying to answer all the questions, if the user would be happy to have something or something else uh. We've made a study, so could you go to next slide. Sorry for the functional recurrence. So that's the standard method for marketing, okay. We had one hundred subjects, um, we observe their remote control use in a lab and then after all the experiments they had to fill up a questionnaire, um, and see what was okay or not for them. William Keen: Mm-hmm. Willie Davis: Okay. So then it's some statistics about what we observed and what they answered. Um actually seventy five percent of the users find m the most remote controls uh ugly, okay, so that's Michael Smith: You mean the loo the William Keen: The Michael Smith: look, William Keen: look, Michael Smith: the William Keen: how Michael Smith: outside? William Keen: it look Michael Smith: Okay. Willie Davis: Yeah, William Keen: like. Willie Davis: the the look is is bad for them so uh it's your job, David, maybe. Then eighty percent of users would spend more money um actually if if the remote controls were not so ugly. So this is where we could have uh yeah, good market, I guess, William Keen: Yeah. Willie Davis: if people are ready to pay more. So it's it's interesting information, I think. And then um yeah, the remote controls like the one you've shown previously it's not so doesn't fit the user requirements sometime, because it's too many buttons and so on. So we should change this as well. And uh users are actually zapping a lot, so they're using the device intensively, that's something to take into account as well. And um, you know, ten percent of the buttons are actually used in the remote control. And uh this is one of the main point for Willie Davis. But I'll come back to it later. 'Kay. Could you go next slide? Uh, so as you said Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. Willie Davis: uh, remote controls are often lost somewhere in the room. So this is from the experiments we've done, so if we could solve this problem this would be interesting for the user, I think. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use the remote control for thirty five percent of the people. And uh remote control are really bad for R_S_I_ problems for twenty six percent of the users. Michael Smith: What is R_S_I_? Willie Davis: R_S_I_ is like, when you're using the same um doing the same movement several times, William Keen: Yeah. Willie Davis: then you get injured. Michael Smith: Ah um Willie Davis: Okay? Michael Smith: okay. Willie Davis: So, those numbers are less important then the previous one, but still it has to be taken to count. So last slide. Um so my pres personal preferences for this problem is we have to meet the user needs. If we can make it look fancy then we might sell more than our uh concurrent, okay. William Keen: Okay. Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. Willie Davis: And definitely if it could have less buttons, still maybe the same number of um John Morosow: Functions. Willie Davis: functions, but less buttons, this would definitely be a good way of selling more. William Keen: Okay. Willie Davis: Okay. So Michael Smith: Mm okay. And just to have uh an idea, do you think you as John Morosow to would it be possible to have less buttons and John Morosow: Yeah. Michael Smith: still have the same functionality and to have powerful remote control, you think it's possible? Sure? John Morosow: Yeah, I think Michael Smith: Yeah? John Morosow: possible. Because we can We can uh mix uh several function in one button. Michael Smith: Yeah. John Morosow: So lets you then you have less buttons. Michael Smith: Yeah, but John Morosow: But I'm Michael Smith: do you John Morosow: not Michael Smith: think John Morosow: sure Michael Smith: it will be easy to use? Because if you have many functions just for one button it would be quite difficult for the user to know. Willie Davis: Yeah, remember the user is not happy to read the Michael Smith: Yeah, William Keen: The manuals. Michael Smith: I think Willie Davis: manual. Michael Smith: the Willie Davis: It's John Morosow: No you you can have a switch menu, so you can Michael Smith: Yeah, John Morosow: well Michael Smith: but John Morosow: for example Michael Smith: it has to be intuitive. John Morosow: Yeah, I think so. Like for for example you can uh you can category the function i i into several classes. Then for um you can have a switch menu, so Michael Smith: Yeah, John Morosow: you put Michael Smith: okay. John Morosow: the switch menu to it it tend to this kind of this category of functions. Michael Smith: Okay, John Morosow: Then you Michael Smith: but John Morosow: you put the switch button, then it switch to another category of functions. Yeah. For example, if you have remote control you you can rem you can control your T_V_ and also you can control your uh recorder. William Keen: With John Morosow: So William Keen: a John Morosow: there's a different functions, but i if you you there's a button you can switch between control T_V_ and control your recorder. So we can has less buttons. Michael Smith: Yeah, John Morosow: But Michael Smith: but John Morosow: what I'm not so sure is about how to make the remote control look funny look William Keen: Look John Morosow: fancy, William Keen: fancy. John Morosow: not funny. William Keen: question that should John Morosow: Because William Keen: be asked to the John Morosow: different people have a different opinion about fancy. You know. William Keen: If you Willie Davis: Yeah. William Keen: ask the people, maybe the the marketing people. Willie Davis: Yeah, this John Morosow: Because Willie Davis: is something John Morosow: maybe Willie Davis: we John Morosow: a Willie Davis: sh John Morosow: colourful is fancy for some people, but maybe Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. John Morosow: simple and Willie Davis: But this was John Morosow: uh uniform Willie Davis: first step and John Morosow: colourful is fancy for some for other peoples, so. Willie Davis: This William Keen: I think Willie Davis: was William Keen: the solution Willie Davis: the first step, yeah. William Keen: is to have many colours of you know instead of having one grey Michael Smith: Yeah, but I William Keen: standard Michael Smith: think it will increase the price of the production Willie Davis: Specially distribution, Michael Smith: of the remote Willie Davis: yeah. Michael Smith: control. William Keen: Yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Michael Smith: If you need to have special colours for remote Willie Davis: Uh Michael Smith: controls it will John Morosow: Yeah, personalised Michael Smith: cost more. John Morosow: colour. Because you Michael Smith: Yeah, John Morosow: know Michael Smith: it will cost little bit more. John Morosow: Yeah, because maybe some people prefer a red remote William Keen: Yeah, John Morosow: control, William Keen: yeah, John Morosow: some people William Keen: yeah. John Morosow: prefer black remote Willie Davis: Yeah, but John Morosow: control. Willie Davis: this is what we would ask to the users, so. Michael Smith: And John Morosow: Maybe Michael Smith: also John Morosow: we Michael Smith: f John Morosow: can have di Willie Davis: Yeah. John Morosow: di we can have uh several options, so user can select which colour they prefer, so. Michael Smith: Yeah, but as soon as you speak about options, John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: it means Willie Davis: Yeah, remember Michael Smith: that the price increases, Willie Davis: it's Michael Smith: and we don't really want Willie Davis: twelve Michael Smith: the Willie Davis: Euros. Michael Smith: price to be too too high, because we wanna be able to produce it. So, we want something fancy, as uh previously said, Florent, something very easy to use, powerful and also as uh it's written here, seventy five percent of users, they zap lot, so maybe just having many functions in one button John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: is not that good if you want to zap a lot. Willie Davis: Hmm. Michael Smith: And they don't really want to zap between functions of their remote control, John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: they want to zap between channels on T_V_. So I think you have quite lot of points to to think about William Keen: Yeah. Michael Smith: and to discuss it with William Keen: Yeah, John Morosow: Yeah. Michael Smith: uh William Keen: hmm. Michael Smith: the other members. So, is it okay for your presentation? Nothing else Willie Davis: Yeah, it's Michael Smith: to Willie Davis: done, Michael Smith: to add? Willie Davis: just yeah. If we would if we could remember like, not too many buttons and make it look fancy, I think Michael Smith: Mm-hmm. Willie Davis: it would Michael Smith: Okay. Willie Davis: make it. Michael Smith: Mm so So, Willie Davis: So. Michael Smith: I had some new information about the product requirements, so you will have to take care of it of it in your thinking, in your designing of the remote control. So the first one is that um for the designing of the remote control we don't really want to use the teletext anymore, John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: as it's something that's It's is uh Willie Davis: Lame, Michael Smith: No Willie Davis: or Michael Smith: yeah, internet at home, John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: so it's better to use internet then teletext. John Morosow: Yeah. Michael Smith: So, you will have to think about it in your in in the design of your remote control, William Keen: Yep. Michael Smith: and also the remote control will only be used for television, so for y for you your designing, you're not you won't be uh you won't had um buttons to just to manipulate John Morosow: Control. Michael Smith: yeah to control the recorder or John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: maybe the garage door or things like that. It's Willie Davis: Mm-hmm Michael Smith: because if we want to to do remote control John Morosow: Mm. Michael Smith: which will be used for for the television, for the recorder, for the camcorder and all the others, it will become too complex and it will increase the pli the price and we can't do that. We really want to focus on the remote control for the television. Is it okay? John Morosow: Okay. But there's balance between function Michael Smith: So maybe John Morosow: and the Michael Smith: it John Morosow: cost. Michael Smith: will be easier for you to to design it, to have John Morosow: Yeah. Michael Smith: very John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: powerful and easy. And also we want the image of the uh um real reaction John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: be recognisable in the product, such as the colour and s the slogan. Willie Davis: Yeah. Michael Smith: I mean that's uh if uh you want to buy a remote control and if you go in a shop and if you see the remote control you will recognise John Morosow: Mm-hm. Michael Smith: directly that s it's our product. Willie Davis: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: So you will have to use the colour of the product, John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: of the um um of the uh of real reaction John Morosow: Okay. William Keen: So. Michael Smith: and uh also Willie Davis: So has to be yellow. Michael Smith: Yeah. William Keen: Yellow. Michael Smith: As we say, we put the fashion in electronics, so it has to be a fashion remote control. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: Fancy, fashion, powerful, easy to use. John Morosow: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: Require lot of requirements, but John Morosow: Yeah. William Keen: For cheap remote control, John Morosow: And cheap. William Keen: yeah. Michael Smith: Yeah. John Morosow: A low cost. Michael Smith: Yeah. But uh that's your your job William Keen: Yeah. Michael Smith: to find something mm William Keen: Yeah, Michael Smith: matches. William Keen: 'cause what I'm thinking is how will you will connect the T_V_ to internet, so. This is Willie Davis: I don't think it's part of the remote control design anyway. Michael Smith: Maybe not, Willie Davis: It's Michael Smith: but mayb Willie Davis: maybe more in browsing. William Keen: Yeah, but this this mean that your T_V_ would be able to, you know, connect to internet, you know, surf the web. John Morosow: Yeah, there's that box in Willie Davis: Yeah. John Morosow: uh o of it. A pi There's that box in the T_V_, so with the set box you you can connect internet with your T_V_. William Keen: Okay. John Morosow: Ok Willie Davis: Hm-mm. John Morosow: It's It's not so uh popular now. William Keen: It's pop I don't think it's popular, so that's the John Morosow: Mm. William Keen: problem so. You had i if you are designing a remote control for you know the global John Morosow: Global, William Keen: usage, John Morosow: okay. William Keen: so if people don't have the technology. Michael Smith: So. Willie Davis: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: So John Morosow: So Michael Smith: everybody John Morosow: I I Michael Smith: is John Morosow: so Michael Smith: okay with the new requirements? John Morosow: As as for the colour, what what do you think? Michael Smith: I think it has to be yellow. William Keen: Yellow? Michael Smith: Yeah. William Keen: Do you John Morosow: Yellow? William Keen: think that people like the colour John Morosow: T_V_ William Keen: yellow? John Morosow: remote control? Willie Davis: Min Michael Smith: Maybe you can change the colour, John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: but the image of the society has to be recognised. John Morosow: Okay. Willie Davis: Yeah. William Keen: I think Michael Smith: Why William Keen: if Michael Smith: you William Keen: you Michael Smith: go William Keen: have you know th like a yellow ribbon here is the double R_. Michael Smith: It has to be fashion. William Keen: Or should be. Yeah, so. Doesn't John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: So you William Keen: need to be completely Michael Smith: have to William Keen: yellow, but just mm. Michael Smith: Yeah. It has to be a fashion and really be uh the image of the society. Just when you enter you say oh, oh, it's real reaction. Think it's a John Morosow: Okay, Michael Smith: re reaction John Morosow: okay. Michael Smith: remote control, so. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: And also it has to be attractive, of John Morosow: Mm. Michael Smith: course, because if you want to sale to sell the remote control. It's okay? Willie Davis: Regarding the first line, what So we're just expecting no more use of the teletext. Michael Smith: Yeah. Willie Davis: And that's it. Michael Smith: Yeah. William Keen: But I dunno, but why, nobody's a threat to Willie Davis. Willie Davis: It's already changed for Michael Smith: I think it would be simpler. Willie Davis: Mm-hmm. Michael Smith: Okay. So I will close the meeting, um just after that we'll have lunch break. And you will have in thirty minutes individual work. Uh Y you You will have as the I_D_ I don't remember what is William Keen: Industrial Michael Smith: industr Willie Davis: Industrial Designer. William Keen: Designer, Michael Smith: Industrial William Keen: yeah. Michael Smith: Designer to put William Keen: Component Michael Smith: um pon William Keen: component, Michael Smith: yeah, William Keen: yeah. Michael Smith: and John Morosow to work on the user interface concept. John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: And Florent to work my subject. Willie Davis: Yep. Michael Smith: And so specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. Willie Davis: Okay. Michael Smith: It's okay? Willie Davis: Yeah. Michael Smith: I think the um session is closed. William Keen: Good. Michael Smith: And by the way, Mister David Jordan, please record your presentations in your own folder. William Keen: Okay John Morosow: Okay. Michael Smith: Not in mine. William Keen: Okay, John Morosow: Okay. William Keen: that's Michael Smith: Should William Keen: clear. Michael Smith: be better.

John Morosow discussed some characteristics and functions to consider in designing the remote and introduced an idea for giving the remote international appeal by merging it with a system such as Google. William Keen discussed the interior workings of a remote and presented options for components and materials which would keep costs low. Willie Davis presented consumer preferences and requirements. Michael Smith introduced the new requirements for the project. The team then discussed different features they could include in the design of the remote.

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Jeff Pulido: So let's start our second Edward Tompkins meeting on design. Edward Tompkins: Mm-hmm. Jeff Pulido: So, as the previous meeting I will be the secretary Scott Muller: Mm-hmm. Jeff Pulido: and we will have three presentations and we'll have to decide on the remote control concept and finally we'll close the decision. So I will first uh Edward Tompkins: No y you do the minutes first or, Jeff Pulido: What? Edward Tompkins: No? Jeff Pulido: I I think I will let uh Edward Tompkins: Okay. Jeff Pulido: our User Interface Designer speak first, Mister David Jordan. David Moore: Yep. Jeff Pulido: So, we'll David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: S technical accessoire? David Moore: No no no. Jeff Pulido: Interface? David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: This. David Moore: Mm. So uh first I will present the concept of user interface. Um there's three concepts in the user interface. So first one it's a Google controller. The second is a fancy controller. The last one is uh intelligent controller. So there are three concepts in our controller. Um n next I will explain one by one, the first is Google controller. Um, so I want the controller to be easy to use, but with sophisticated functions. So it's a combination of easy to use and um sophisticated functions. Uh this is a first concept of our controller. The second concept is a fancy controller, um so we want give the customers the impression that our controller is very attractive, um they can easy recognise our controller among a lot of products, so so the u the user f the the u user interface should be very very cute, very Edward Tompkins: Mm. Scott Muller: Mm. David Moore: very g um Scott Muller: A nice David Moore: attractive. Scott Muller: one. David Moore: Such like this, there are several uh examples in the slides. Jeff Pulido: I'm not sure the one in the middle is very attractive. David Moore: Yeah, it's very, you know if you're Jeff Pulido: very big yeah. David Moore: Yeah. It's hard f i it's easy for you to remember it. Or to recognise it, yeah. Jeff Pulido: Okay. Yeah, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: why not. David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: We'll have big discussion Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: I suppose after that, David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: so. Edward Tompkins: Mm. David Moore: So the last uh concept is intelligent. We want uh we want our controller to be smart, Scott Muller: Mm-hmm. Edward Tompkins: Mm. David Moore: so maybe we should uh use um uh technology, such as speech recognition technology and gesture recognition technology, so we need to have coop some cooperation with some research institute on speech recognition and um gesture recognition. Um With this advanced features we I think we can attract a lot of user. Jeff Pulido: Okay. David Moore: Okay. Jeff Pulido: Something else? David Moore: No. There this is the three concepts of Scott Muller: Yeah. David Moore: our Jeff Pulido: I just have David Moore: controller. Jeff Pulido: one question, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: because for the intelligent controller, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: you said that we can use the voice recognition or the gesture recognition, but as the um expert told us, most of the people want to use the remote control to zap t to zap between channels. David Moore: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: Do you David Moore: so Jeff Pulido: think they will be able to use gestures? Because, David Moore: Y Jeff Pulido: if they do all the time the same gesture, as you said previously in the last meeting, maybe they will get injuries because of that? Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: or Scott Muller: Maybe. Jeff Pulido: if you say channel three channel three two three four six five, I think they will be bored after a while. You don't think so? David Moore: Uh I think some time it's very uh convenient to use voice interface and gesture interface Jeff Pulido: Yeah, sure. David Moore: than use button. For example, if you cannot find your Jeff Pulido: I David Moore: uh Scott Muller: Oh David Moore: controller, Scott Muller: yeah, that's a good David Moore: you Jeff Pulido: That's David Moore: can Scott Muller: that's David Moore: just Scott Muller: a Jeff Pulido: true. Scott Muller: good David Moore: uh Scott Muller: point, so. David Moore: just just uh speak something such as, Scott Muller: One and Jeff Pulido: Yeah, David Moore: yeah, Jeff Pulido: but suppose David Moore: one Jeff Pulido: you David Moore: two. Jeff Pulido: got a cold. You David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: have a mute Edward Tompkins: Mm. Jeff Pulido: remote controller. David Moore: So you can use your gesture. That's no problem. Edward Tompkins: Yeah but how how is how Jeff Pulido: Broken Edward Tompkins: risky Jeff Pulido: arm? Edward Tompkins: is it to trust like speech recognition or gesture recognition? David Moore: For limited vocabulary speech recognition is Edward Tompkins: Okay. David Moore: very reliable Edward Tompkins: Okay. David Moore: and for s limited vocabulary gesture recognition is also Jeff Pulido: Yeah, David Moore: very Jeff Pulido: but suppose you have a family watching T_V_, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: and if they want to use Scott Muller: Yep. Jeff Pulido: their private remote control in the same time, do you think it will work? Everybody wanting to change channel Edward Tompkins: But this Jeff Pulido: in the same Edward Tompkins: this Jeff Pulido: time? Edward Tompkins: but this would never happen anyway. David Moore: Yeah, they cannot Jeff Pulido: Why? David Moore: speak at the same time. Edward Tompkins: Yeah Jeff Pulido: If you have one brother and one sister and they want to Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: watch Edward Tompkins: but the Jeff Pulido: their favourite uh T_V_ programme, so they say oh channel four channel three channel four channel Scott Muller: Yeah Jeff Pulido: three David Moore: Yeah, Scott Muller: but David Moore: it's Edward Tompkins: Yeah David Moore: very Edward Tompkins: but Jeff Pulido: all Edward Tompkins: this David Moore: interesting. Jeff Pulido: the time, Scott Muller: Yeah Jeff Pulido: so. Scott Muller: but the same can happen even with it you know this Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: kind of remote control because David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: I don't think Scott Muller: the Jeff Pulido: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: it Jeff Pulido: but you have the remote control, so maybe you Scott Muller: That's Jeff Pulido: can keep Scott Muller: right. Jeff Pulido: it f with you. You're not you're not obliged Edward Tompkins: Oh, Jeff Pulido: to Edward Tompkins: okay, Jeff Pulido: share Edward Tompkins: okay, Jeff Pulido: it. Edward Tompkins: you mean it could be a problem for Jeff Pulido: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: this Jeff Pulido: we can Edward Tompkins: kind David Moore: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: of David Moore: that's Edward Tompkins: stuff. Jeff Pulido: yeah. David Moore: that's the advantage of intelligent controller. Even you h Edward Tompkins: No. David Moore: you have the controller, I can Scott Muller: It's David Moore: I can say Scott Muller: it's David Moore: channel three, so it's c come Edward Tompkins: No, but David Moore: to Edward Tompkins: this David Moore: channel Edward Tompkins: is disadvant David Moore: three, I don't have Edward Tompkins: disadvantage. David Moore: to Jeff Pulido: Yeah, I think it's a disadvantage. David Moore: It's Edward Tompkins: Yeah. David Moore: advantage. Scott Muller: And mayb maybe we can have the switching mode to pass from you know voice controller to Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but one Scott Muller: manual Jeff Pulido: other question. Scott Muller: controllers, Jeff Pulido: How Scott Muller: eh. Jeff Pulido: how much will it cost? Scott Muller: No, more David Moore: How Scott Muller: expensive David Moore: much? Scott Muller: maybe. Jeff Pulido: Yeah. Because I suppose we need to do research to have something working. David Moore: No no we we d we we just Edward Tompkins: Uh if David Moore: are Edward Tompkins: you if David Moore: use Jeff Pulido: Some David Moore: um Edward Tompkins: if Jeff Pulido: some Edward Tompkins: you Jeff Pulido: efficient. Edward Tompkins: use the basic David Moore: No no we just um have some cooperation with some research institute, we don't have to do some basic research on this Jeff Pulido: So David Moore: field. Jeff Pulido: you think it won't cost an Not a lot for us? Or? David Moore: Yeah, I think it's uh because uh this technology is uh um for limited wor or limited wor uh lexical recognition, it's very Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but uh uh David Moore: it's uh yeah. Edward Tompkins: But it's David Moore: It's Edward Tompkins: it's changing how the remote control is gonna be built. Because then you need uh I mean this doesn't have uh the power to do recognition, for example. Scott Muller: Well y y David Moore: No it's Scott Muller: you have David Moore: uh Scott Muller: also the language David Moore: Even Scott Muller: problem, David Moore: for Scott Muller: you David Moore: the Scott Muller: know when David Moore: f Scott Muller: you David Moore: um Jeff Pulido: Mm-mm. David Moore: because Scott Muller: 'Cause David Moore: the Scott Muller: it David Moore: the vocabulary Scott Muller: it have to be universal, David Moore: the Scott Muller: so. Jeff Pulido: Yeah. I David Moore: The Jeff Pulido: agree David Moore: vocabulary Jeff Pulido: with uh David Moore: is very small, so Edward Tompkins: Yeah. David Moore: that's Jeff Pulido: Yeah, David Moore: not a problem. Jeff Pulido: but there is one problem that uh Baba Scott Muller: Yeah. David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: talked about is the international remote control. We need something that is international. Suppose we're we want to sell it in France. David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: The recognition system will be able to understand French. If you want to go to England, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: it will be able to understand English, so. David Moore: Yeah, the key, the key Edward Tompkins: Yeah, David Moore: um Edward Tompkins: this could be downloaded by the web David Moore: the Edward Tompkins: maybe, David Moore: key of Edward Tompkins: or David Moore: our the key feature of our controller is that it's it has some some um adaptation Scott Muller: Yeah David Moore: mechanism. Scott Muller: but you know. The David Moore: It's Scott Muller: product David Moore: It's Scott Muller: The pro David Moore: it means when you when you sell this controller in China it's can recognise Chinese. It's r if you sell this controller in France Scott Muller: It's David Moore: it Scott Muller: a very David Moore: can Scott Muller: smart, David Moore: recognise French. Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: it's a Jeff Pulido: Mm, Scott Muller: very smart Jeff Pulido: okay. Scott Muller: controller maybe David Moore: Yeah, it's Jeff Pulido: And with no increase in the pri production price Scott Muller: Oh yeah Jeff Pulido: of the Scott Muller: yeah Jeff Pulido: remote Scott Muller: yeah yeah. Jeff Pulido: control? David Moore: Because Scott Muller: But David Moore: of this product uh this technology has already been developed. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, David Moore: So Jeff Pulido: but how will Scott Muller: Yeah Jeff Pulido: you Scott Muller: but the problem is how to s you know if this is a push button controller, you David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: can send this con this remote control everywhere in the world, David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: the same one. Edward Tompkins: Mm. Scott Muller: If you have the language, you have to David Moore: Oh n Scott Muller: develop David Moore: Yeah, yeah tha Scott Muller: for David Moore: that's Scott Muller: each David Moore: why Scott Muller: country. David Moore: we have to do language adaptation. Scott Muller: Yeah, but for each country you have to do one, David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: because uh the for example David Moore: Even Scott Muller: for Se David Moore: for each f for even for different family we have to do d Scott Muller: Oh really? David Moore: yeah we would we Scott Muller: That's David Moore: have to do adaptation to Jeff Pulido: Oh. Edward Tompkins: Yeah, but then Jeff Pulido: Seems Edward Tompkins: w Jeff Pulido: to be quite complex. Edward Tompkins: Yeah, we have to Scott Muller: Comple David Moore: No, Edward Tompkins: take David Moore: it's not Edward Tompkins: care David Moore: so Edward Tompkins: of the David Moore: complex. Edward Tompkins: twelve Euros problem. Jeff Pulido: And what about voice recognition, do we have microphones? And where will be they? Do you think David Moore: No no Jeff Pulido: if David Moore: no Jeff Pulido: we're David Moore: it's Jeff Pulido: far David Moore: not Jeff Pulido: from television it will work? David Moore: I think that's n that's not a problem because you you don't have to wear a microphone. It it just the microphone is embedded in the controller. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but where is the controller? Edward Tompkins: Okay. David Moore: Where is the controller? Jeff Pulido: Yeah. David Moore: It's in your family, in your home. Edward Tompkins: No, but Jeff Pulido: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: then it's Jeff Pulido: but Edward Tompkins: it's Jeff Pulido: we're Edward Tompkins: like this Jeff Pulido: here it's uh Edward Tompkins: uh Jeff Pulido: an object. But David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: here you say you want to use i uh David Moore: Yeah you can Jeff Pulido: s David Moore: you Jeff Pulido: technology. David Moore: can embed it uh Scott Muller: A microphone David Moore: microphone Scott Muller: maybe. David Moore: here. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but wha what is the use of voice or gesture recognition if you have a remote control li like this, if you have an object. If you want to use voice or gesture you need to be Scott Muller: To talk Jeff Pulido: free, Scott Muller: to the to the T_V_ Jeff Pulido: without any Scott Muller: maybe. Jeff Pulido: object. You just want to interact David Moore: Yeah yeah just Jeff Pulido: with David Moore: you Jeff Pulido: television. David Moore: just put the controller here, then you Scott Muller: I if you say David Moore: you Scott Muller: one, David Moore: use Scott Muller: he switch David Moore: your command Scott Muller: to channel, yeah. David Moore: and you do s your gesture. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but you can lose it. David Moore: No no it's n y if you lose it Scott Muller: So well for example if it is somewhere in the room if i maybe if it is in the table there you can always say s channel one and the t the remote control gives the order to the T_V_ David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: to switch to channel Jeff Pulido: Okay Scott Muller: one. Jeff Pulido: you so you can build a kind of Scott Muller: Devic Jeff Pulido: black box and put it Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: on T_V_ and Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: just to recognize Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: gestures and voice. Scott Muller: Yeah but so you need a camera and you know a microphone David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Ah. Scott Muller: inside your remote control. Edward Tompkins: But you would still have the buttons. Or is it do you think it should be only voice recognition and gesture recognition? Or you you still have the possibility to use buttons? David Moore: I think it we should give the uh flexibility to the user Edward Tompkins: Okay, David Moore: and Edward Tompkins: so David Moore: we Edward Tompkins: you David Moore: think yeah. Edward Tompkins: yeah. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, David Moore: You can see they can switch form one modality to another. Jeff Pulido: Mm. Edward Tompkins: Yeah, I dunno. It's a bit risky risky. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: I David Moore: No, Jeff Pulido: think so. David Moore: that's Jeff Pulido: And David Moore: quite Jeff Pulido: maybe David Moore: inter Jeff Pulido: it will be quite David Moore: quite attractive. Scott Muller: But I think that, you know, switching from one country to to another will be a problem, so although y y David Moore: Well, if you do language adaptation, there should be no problem. Scott Muller: Yeah but Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Scott Muller: i i Edward Tompkins: I dunno. Jeff Pulido: Okay. David Moore: We should have confidence in technology. Scott Muller: Yeah, we should. Uh. Jeff Pulido: Hmm. So, what do you think? We'll try the controllers you'd prefer. Scott Muller: Mm. Edward Tompkins: What? Jeff Pulido: Which kind of controller would you prefer to use, you as a Edward Tompkins: If Jeff Pulido: remote Edward Tompkins: if Jeff Pulido: control user? Edward Tompkins: I mean, uh I'm sure if the user pays the same price, he's happy to have recognition. David Moore: More features, yeah. Edward Tompkins: But Scott Muller: Yeah, but Edward Tompkins: if if if it like doubles uh Scott Muller: I think he Edward Tompkins: no Scott Muller: need Edward Tompkins: one would Scott Muller: a control Edward Tompkins: would be interested. Scott Muller: that is very reliable, so. Jeff Pulido: So I think it would be better not to do any intelligent controller and to stay with the Google controller or a fancy controller. Maybe try to mix the Google controller and the fancy controller? Hmm? Scott Muller: Yeah. Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Just want to have something controller which is in a kind of intelligent controller, easy to use, sophisticated and fancy. David Moore: Yeah Jeff Pulido: You David Moore: but Jeff Pulido: think David Moore: if Jeff Pulido: it's possible? David Moore: if you stick to um stick to the first two parts. So what's the difference between our controller with other products in the market? There's no k features of our controller, so is there is there any necessary to design new controller without Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: Yeah. David Moore: any breakthrough features? Edward Tompkins: No, I mean David Moore: Would y would you replace your controller with a controller with similar function if you Scott Muller: It's David Moore: do not Edward Tompkins: Y Scott Muller: not really David Moore: have some Scott Muller: the we David Moore: some function Scott Muller: we can David Moore: inside Scott Muller: add for David Moore: it Scott Muller: example David Moore: that Scott Muller: some function like for browsing in internet, so or something like that. But uh I think a user need David Moore: Yeah, you y that's a fun that's not the function of the controller, that's a function of T_V_. can replace your T_V_ with a new T_V_ with internet browsing Edward Tompkins: No, David Moore: function, Edward Tompkins: but you need David Moore: but Edward Tompkins: you need new remote controller then. Because if you wanna browse internet or, Scott Muller: Don't have Edward Tompkins: I don't know, Scott Muller: a the Edward Tompkins: if you Scott Muller: the Edward Tompkins: wanna type something, or David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: Yeah if we can send email from David Moore: But Scott Muller: it. David Moore: it's not the only the problem only the Edward Tompkins: No. David Moore: issue of controller, it's Edward Tompkins: No. David Moore: it's also the issue of the T_V_. Scott Muller: Because the p the problem I can see with with the voice or the gesture itself wh Edward Tompkins: Cause Scott Muller: what Edward Tompkins: for example Scott Muller: can happen in a Edward Tompkins: yeah. Scott Muller: family i i for example David Moore: Yeah, Scott Muller: if David Moore: but we do we do we we we cannot rely one hundred percent on these features Edward Tompkins: Yeah. David Moore: to u to use the controller, Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but David Moore: but Jeff Pulido: uh we want David Moore: with the Jeff Pulido: so David Moore: features of our controller such as you have the feature of voice recognition in your mobile but you seldom use it, your mobile, but you when you choose a new mobile, Edward Tompkins: Yeah, David Moore: you Edward Tompkins: you wou David Moore: choose Edward Tompkins: you would David Moore: the one with voice recognition. Edward Tompkins: True. David Moore: That's the feature is not one hundred percent reliable, but it's a feature to distinguish our product from our from other products. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but Scott Muller: Yeah Jeff Pulido: w we we want something th that works all the time, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: every day, every hour, David Moore: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: for David Moore: uh Scott Muller: And for Jeff Pulido: everyone. Scott Muller: all the person of the family maybe, David Moore: Yeah, if Jeff Pulido: You Scott Muller: so, David Moore: if Jeff Pulido: don't Scott Muller: yeah. Jeff Pulido: need David Moore: if Jeff Pulido: to David Moore: if Jeff Pulido: tune David Moore: you're if you Jeff Pulido: it. David Moore: ar if you already have a product it works one hundred percent reliable, would you replace it with another one? Jeff Pulido: Yeah, why not? Edward Tompkins: I Jeff Pulido: If Edward Tompkins: mean, Jeff Pulido: it's Edward Tompkins: for example the goo y Scott Muller: Because Edward Tompkins: you Scott Muller: you have Edward Tompkins: say Scott Muller: new Edward Tompkins: we would we would to have a Google-like David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: controller. David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: I don't see how adding speech or gesture recognition would make the remote control look more like Google. Google is is simple, works fine, David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: so I I guess if can have a remote control that is really basic, simple and works fine, David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: it's already a lot. David Moore: Oh yes, but Edward Tompkins: Uh David Moore: there's Edward Tompkins: thi David Moore: no Edward Tompkins: this David Moore: big difference between the traditional controller. Edward Tompkins: I mean, the user is not only interested in having speech or gesture recognition or David Moore: The then Edward Tompkins: if he has David Moore: nn no. Edward Tompkins: something David Moore: Tha Edward Tompkins: that works fine and is really fancy, looks nice and Jeff Pulido: Not David Moore: But Jeff Pulido: too David Moore: the Edward Tompkins: it's Jeff Pulido: expensive David Moore: there's Edward Tompkins: easy easy David Moore: there's Jeff Pulido: too. Edward Tompkins: to David Moore: n Edward Tompkins: use, David Moore: there's n Edward Tompkins: easy David Moore: not Edward Tompkins: to use. David Moore: enough motivation for them to replace their old controller with a new one Edward Tompkins: See David Moore: if there's no key feature in the new controller. Edward Tompkins: That's the David Moore: That's Edward Tompkins: problem, David Moore: the same yeah. Edward Tompkins: yeah. I mean, I I know it's more interesting to develop a remote controller with speech and gesture and whatever. David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: But you have to think, Scott Muller: Ye Edward Tompkins: the user is the one who gonna buy the product and David Moore: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: so. Jeff Pulido: Okay. Edward Tompkins: I mean, that's Jeff Pulido: So Edward Tompkins: the point. Jeff Pulido: let's go to Scott Muller. David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: Maybe we'll be able to take a decision after that, Scott Muller: Okay. David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: so. Two? Scott Muller: Yeah, participant two um Jeff Pulido: Working? Scott Muller: Yeah, working design, so. So I think Jeff Pulido: I can Scott Muller: Can you go to the next one? I uh it's not this one. It's uh Jeff Pulido: Okay. Scott Muller: oth the oth so I It's the working design. Sorry. Component Jeff Pulido: It's Scott Muller: design. Jeff Pulido: okay Scott Muller: So this yeah so this is the described use What? Are you inst Jeff Pulido: Uh I think there's something wrong with your David Moore: It did didn't r receive it. Didn't Jeff Pulido: Maybe you David Moore: receive it. Jeff Pulido: you record it somewhere else. Scott Muller: I don't think so. David Moore: Participant one. Participant one. Jeff Pulido: Interface concept. No. Edward Tompkins: Hmm. Jeff Pulido: Mm mm. Scott Muller: Oh. Maybe I record recorded directly on the Computer. Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Uh. Edward Tompkins: Dunno. Jeff Pulido: Nope. Scott Muller: Okay, okay. Yes. Jeff Pulido: It seems that we have a problem with the Edward Tompkins: I dunno if you remember what you had to say or Scott Muller: I can say it to you without. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, so David Moore: Yeah, maybe we can first come to Jeff Pulido: No, I think it will be more interesting David Moore: uh Jeff Pulido: to David Moore: to Frahan. Jeff Pulido: start with uh David Moore: With Frahan, Edward Tompkins: I think it's David Moore: then Edward Tompkins: more David Moore: you Edward Tompkins: interesting David Moore: can prepare Edward Tompkins: what David Moore: your slides, Edward Tompkins: he says, okay. David Moore: then present Jeff Pulido: Yeah. David Moore: it later. Scott Muller: Yeah, exac Okay. Jeff Pulido: I think it will be interesting after your Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: presentation Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: to have Edward Tompkins: true. Jeff Pulido: um Baba's presentation. Scott Muller: Yeah. David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: In fact, I don't Jeff Pulido: So. Scott Muller: know, I s Jeff Pulido: Okay. Scott Muller: because i in my presentation I don't have here with so Jeff Pulido: Okay, never Scott Muller: It Jeff Pulido: mind. Scott Muller: was in fact the design use to show you the design of what is inside David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: a what is inside and what are the different component of the r of the remote control. David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: So it will be interesting so I could show you some some picture David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: of what is inside and so. So I in fact the the f something I want to discuss is which kind of material are we going to use, so Jeff Pulido: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: will it will be wooden wooden di wooden remote control or a a plastic remote control like this one. So and in which which which kind will be the the different bu button, Jeff Pulido: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: so it can be some, you know, classic pushbutton like this one, or you have also some button like L_C_D_ where you know, David Moore: Mm-hmm. Jeff Pulido: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: the button the buttons are unlighted during the night, or, you know, you can Jeff Pulido: Okay. Scott Muller: see them in the darkness. David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: And the other thing I want to discuss also is which kind of alimentation, electric alimentation do you want to have, so will it be for example uh d uh solar energy alimentation David Moore: Uh-huh. Scott Muller: or will it be a battery like the classical battery so. And I think that for example for the alimentation it would be good to have uh both of them, so so for example in some country where you are in the the countryside and you are far from, you know, the cities uh David Moore: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: for example in some place in in S Senegal, so if you have electric if you have solar David Moore: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: alimentation, you just, when you want to have recharger or remote control power you just put it on the sun and after one hour you can come and so it can be interesting for people to have this kind of remote con It can be something interesting to make people buy it, for example. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, I think it's an Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: added value to the remote control Scott Muller: Yeah, yeah Jeff Pulido: and maybe Scott Muller: mm. Jeff Pulido: it can attract all the ecological Scott Muller: yeah, Jeff Pulido: k Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: yeah, Jeff Pulido: yeah Scott Muller: yeah, Jeff Pulido: consumers Scott Muller: yeah, Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: yeah. Jeff Pulido: and but about the the price of adding this solar battery, would it be something really that will increase the price of production more, no? Scott Muller: Alrigh In fact, having them both will if we want to have battery, regular battery and and the solar energy battery it could be it'll it will add a little bit of the price, Jeff Pulido: So. Scott Muller: but it will be an added value also that will be Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: compensated, Jeff Pulido: Okay. Scott Muller: so hmm. Jeff Pulido: And what tha what about the uh materials? Scott Muller: And the materials, it depends for example you if you have a wooden material it can be more the plastic material is more common it's Jeff Pulido: Impersonal, Scott Muller: very resistant but, Jeff Pulido: mm-hmm. Scott Muller: you know, something wooden will be like, I don't know Jeff Pulido: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: Special Scott Muller: high Edward Tompkins: for Scott Muller: cl so a special high class, or you know, Edward Tompkins: Mm-hmm. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, and Scott Muller: you Jeff Pulido: i Scott Muller: can have some Jeff Pulido: if you we want to put fashion in electronics maybe we can try to do something with wood. David Moore: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: Yeah, even Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: if it is not completely wood, but just a part of the, you Jeff Pulido: Mm-hmm. Scott Muller: know, will be wooden, in wood Jeff Pulido: Mm. Scott Muller: and it can be interesting. Jeff Pulido: Mm okay, seems Scott Muller: And Jeff Pulido: to be interesting, Scott Muller: so Jeff Pulido: mm. Scott Muller: the last point is y also would do you want to have some very cheap integrated cir circuits, chips, or do you have low level or or very very expensive, it depends, but I think that low level will be, you know, it is an interim module. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, we want something easy to use and Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: so I think maybe something very low level wou Scott Muller: Yeah. Yeah, Jeff Pulido: would be enough. Scott Muller: yeah. Jeff Pulido: And you think that we will be Scott Muller: Yeah, I think it will fit on the price we want, twel Jeff Pulido: Okay. Scott Muller: twelve Euros, so. Jeff Pulido: So wood. And what about the buttons? Scott Muller: I think the buttons I pr I prefer, you know, the L_C_D_ you know lighted buttons because, you know, it's I don't know Jeff Pulido: No it's fashion, Scott Muller: um yeah, in the Jeff Pulido: yeah. Scott Muller: dark, it's fashion and it's related to how beautiful it is or uh if you want to watch T_V_ in the darkness or if you want to lo find your find your your remote control that is lost, you know in the darkness it's very easy so, right. Edward Tompkins: What about the touch scr touch screen? For example. It's it's expensive I I guess. Scott Muller: I think a touch screen will be t as expensive as the L_C_D_ buttons so. Edward Tompkins: Mm. Scott Muller: But And it is a kind of other design, I mean. It can Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: also be interesting to have this kind of David Moore: So you got email? Jeff Pulido: I dunno. I think we have only uh five minutes left. Edward Tompkins: Okay. Jeff Pulido: Participant four? Functional requirements? Edward Tompkins: Uh no, trend watching. The other one. Jeff Pulido: This one? Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Uh, I think so, just Yeah, so just to meet the user requirements I would just do a s short anal analysis of the remote control market and to kind of um have a better overview of what's the fashion in general I've checked more than only the remote control market, so next. So again, it's pretty much similar to what I've said in the previous meeting. Um user really really want a fancy look and feel. They're not so so interested in uh functional look and feel, okay. Like the one you've shown, David, David Moore: Mm. Edward Tompkins: with all the buttons and I Scott Muller: Mm. Edward Tompkins: mean i i it sounds good technically but it's it's not what they want and uh So, second point is they still want it it to be technologically innovative, so maybe it's sort of related to what you've said with the speech recognition and so on. Jeff Pulido: Okay. Edward Tompkins: At the same time, it's important that it's easy to use. So that were the three first points from the remote control uh analysis. Now i if we look at fashion in general um Okay. Wha what we really see this year is that uh everything from clothes to shoes and furniture is is inspired by fruits and vegetables, okay, Scott Muller: Ah yes. Edward Tompkins: so I think we really have to take this into account for the design of the Scott Muller: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: the thing. Scott Muller: yeah. Okay, yeah. Edward Tompkins: 'Cause it's it's really what people want. Even if it's in general fashion, we want it to be in the remote control. And then uh if if we take the ordering or the ranking of all the points, fancy look and feel has, on a score of seven would have six as importance. Uh the remote control has to be technologically innovative, it's three. Then easy to use uh it's not so important actually with respect to other y other ones. Scott Muller: Okay. Edward Tompkins: So we see fancy look an look and feel is the most important one, uh from Milan and Paris Scott Muller: And fruit and vegetables yeah. Edward Tompkins: we go to the fruits and vede vegetables. And the other point I haven't mention is people wan want to have a spongy Scott Muller: Spongy Edward Tompkins: touch, okay Scott Muller: 'Kay. Edward Tompkins: so this is this maybe doesn't really fit with the wooden design. Scott Muller: Okay, yeah, yeah. Edward Tompkins: I dunno. Scott Muller: Yeah, but the problem is which kind of material do you need to to be spongy? Edward Tompkins: Yeah thi this is this would be like um Scott Muller: Pla Edward Tompkins: plastic-like, Scott Muller: S Edward Tompkins: but Scott Muller: Very stuff Edward Tompkins: rubber, mayb Scott Muller: Okay, Edward Tompkins: maybe, Scott Muller: rubber Edward Tompkins: you Scott Muller: rubber Edward Tompkins: know, rubber-like Scott Muller: desi okay, yeah. Edward Tompkins: uh Scott Muller: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: device, so um Scott Muller: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: Okay, tha tha that was the main point, I think, from the trend in fashion. Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: So we have to take decisions about the component concepts, about the energy. So, as you say you want something technologically innovative, Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: maybe using Scott Muller: Solar. Jeff Pulido: solar energy and Edward Tompkins: Yeah, so when I think it's Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: with battery would be something interesting, maybe will attract Edward Tompkins: Mm-hmm Scott Muller: Yeah. It will be a Jeff Pulido: pro-ecology consumers. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Uh cheap imprint so you s you propose low level Scott Muller: Yeah, I Jeff Pulido: chips Scott Muller: think Jeff Pulido: would be uh enough to have something Scott Muller: Yeah, yeah. Jeff Pulido: working well. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Case. David Moore: Later? Jeff Pulido: So you think case. Something spongy. Someth no wood. Scott Muller: No wood but Edward Tompkins: Maybe not no Scott Muller: Plastic? Edward Tompkins: wood, but I mean Scott Muller: Would some Edward Tompkins: ma maybe not the part you David Moore: Pla Edward Tompkins: touching you Jeff Pulido: Maybe Edward Tompkins: know. Scott Muller: I think Jeff Pulido: you Scott Muller: we can have wood for example in the bottom and, you Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Scott Muller: know. Edward Tompkins: maybe Scott Muller: It depends Edward Tompkins: the base. Scott Muller: on the design we want, so. Jeff Pulido: It's Edward Tompkins: But still y Jeff Pulido: it's natural. Scott Muller: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Th Scott Muller: it's natural Jeff Pulido: The feeling Scott Muller: and i Jeff Pulido: is natural, so maybe we can stay with wood. Scott Muller: And it can be correlated to energy, solar energy, so for the marketing aspect, you know, saying Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Scott Muller: that Edward Tompkins: I mean Scott Muller: it's Edward Tompkins: it's not Scott Muller: ecol Edward Tompkins: exactly right for the spongy Scott Muller: Mm, Edward Tompkins: point Scott Muller: yeah, Edward Tompkins: of view. Scott Muller: it's not right, so. Jeff Pulido: But it's still fashion. Edward Tompkins: But we could maybe have both like part of wood and some rubber for the buttons, or Scott Muller: Okay. Edward Tompkins: I Jeff Pulido: Yeah, Edward Tompkins: dunno. Jeff Pulido: something that you can Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: into it. Uh and what about the user interface concept? Scott Muller: Google and Jeff Pulido: Google and fancy? Scott Muller: and fancy, f how about the the voice? Jeff Pulido: Because Scott Muller: And Jeff Pulido: I think that with the voice and gesture recognition there are still some disadvantages with this. David Moore: Uh Scott Muller: Uh David Moore: yes. Scott Muller: maybe we can do some marketing studies asking people if they're interested and how It It is an an interesting concept to see to have Edward Tompkins: Yeah. Scott Muller: uh David Moore: Yeah. Scott Muller: voice control. David Moore: Yeah. The smart Scott Muller: Mm. David Moore: controller. Scott Muller: Yeah. But and the problem is I I'm we can infer i if you have v voice control why not to put it directly on the the T_V_, so speak directly to the T_V_ and you don't need a remote control actually, so. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, but you need a receiver to recognize the gestures and the voice. Scott Muller: But it will be embedded on the T_V_ and not on the remote control, so. Jeff Pulido: That's Edward Tompkins: Yeah Jeff Pulido: true. Edward Tompkins: d David Moore: Okay. Edward Tompkins: I dunno. Jeff Pulido: So maybe we'll just focus on the Google controller plus the David Moore: Mm. Jeff Pulido: fancy controller, maybe try to mix them these two concepts together, just in one and do a remote control with solar energy David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: and batteries and with lev low level chips and wood. David Moore: It's good. Jeff Pulido: And L_C_D_ buttons. Scott Muller: Yeah, L_C_D_. Jeff Pulido: Yeah, I think for these supplements the solar energy would be something quite interesting and not maybe too difficult Scott Muller: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: to add. Scott Muller: yeah, yeah. And pf what can we think a supplement to Edward Tompkins: What interface? Jeff Pulido: Yeah, for the interface something added value. Scott Muller: I think the supplement can be the voice. It is just, you know, it is not the most important, but it can be a part of Jeff Pulido: With a module? You mean the remote control with a mur module if you want you can Scott Muller: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: just use Scott Muller: yeah. Jeff Pulido: commands, words Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: and Scott Muller: Mm. Jeff Pulido: use them David Moore: Mm-hmm. Jeff Pulido: when you don't want to use Scott Muller: To Jeff Pulido: your Scott Muller: push Jeff Pulido: fingers. Scott Muller: button, yeah, yeah. Even it is for s just some kids, you know, switching channels one two three four. Jeff Pulido: Turning the T_V_ Scott Muller: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: o Scott Muller: turning Jeff Pulido: on o Scott Muller: yeah, Jeff Pulido: or off. Scott Muller: yeah. Not very complex commands, but easy commands, so. Jeff Pulido: So, adding some vocal commands. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Simple ones? Scott Muller: Yeah, simple ones for Jeff Pulido: Okay. So the next meeting will start in thirty meeti minutes so we'll you will all have to work in in your direction. So you will have to work on the look and feel design, David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: to have the easy to use, powerful and fancy remote control David Moore: Yep. Jeff Pulido: with some added value such as the uh simple vocal commands recognition. David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: Uh you will have to work more, Baba, on the um spongy way to to add spongy um Scott Muller: expensive Jeff Pulido: touch Scott Muller: buttons Jeff Pulido: to the buttons Scott Muller: Yeah, to make some Jeff Pulido: and Scott Muller: new Jeff Pulido: try to find maybe a nice shape for the wooden remote control. Scott Muller: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: And I sup I think we'll have to evaluate th the product Edward Tompkins: Yeah, Jeff Pulido: too. Edward Tompkins: no not forgetting about the fruits and vegetables Jeff Pulido: Yeah. Scott Muller: Okay, fruits. Edward Tompkins: trends. Jeff Pulido: Yeah. Edward Tompkins: If possible. Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: And remember as as I said last meeting, we really have to build a fashion remote control and uh the colour of the um the society will be really Scott Muller: Need it to be, okay. Jeff Pulido: it will be seen in the remote control. So you will have Baba and David Jordan you will have to work together on the prototype David Moore: Yeah. Jeff Pulido: and you will have next time to show us um modelling a cl a clay remote control, so David Moore: Okay. Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: you will have to model model something. David Moore: Yep Jeff Pulido: And I think that some specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. Scott Muller: Okay. Jeff Pulido: So, David Moore: Okay. Jeff Pulido: no more questions, we can close the session. Edward Tompkins: Hmm. Scott Muller: Sounds good, mm-hmm. Edward Tompkins: Okay. Jeff Pulido: Yeah. David Moore: Okay. Jeff Pulido: Okay, cool.

David Moore presented three different concepts to consider for the user interface and introduced the idea of using speech recognition in the design of the remote. The team discussed the issue of using speech recognition at length. Scott Muller presented possible materials to use in making the case for the remote, introduced the option of using a solar battery, and discussed options for buttons. The Marketing Specialist discussed recent findings from trend watching reports. The team discussed what materials to use and their interface concept.

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Solomon Dana: Mm-hmm So, ready? Randy Richards: No Troy Robbins: 'Kay. Randy Richards: not really. Just Crap. Solomon Dana: Sorry I, Randy Richards: Okay. Solomon Dana: I Troy Robbins: It's perfect. Solomon Dana: um I'm Terry Kelley: Your Solomon Dana: afraid Terry Kelley: judgement it's is biased. Solomon Dana: Uh thi this remote control will stay a prototype. Randy Richards: 'Kay, so whe where is the remote control? Terry Kelley: So, Troy Robbins: Where Terry Kelley: we are Troy Robbins: It's? here. Terry Kelley: So Solomon Dana: Okay. Terry Kelley: let's go for our detailed design meeting. Randy Richards: Yep. Terry Kelley: So I will still play the role of the secretary, and we'll have um first the project presentation by our Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: User Interface Designer, David Jordan, Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Terry Kelley: and our Industrial Designer, Baba. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: 'Kay. Terry Kelley: So we'll have to evaluate the uh your proposed remote control, and um have an idea of the price that uh this thing will cost. And in case we're all agree on the fabrica of um building of this remote control, we'll evaluate the um production. So maybe I will let the our two designers talk about so Troy Robbins: I have slides. Terry Kelley: their Solomon Dana: Okay. Terry Kelley: You have s oh, sorry. Oops. Troy Robbins: Ah, that is Solomon Dana: Effectively Troy Robbins: three. Solomon Dana: one slide and maybe we can Troy Robbins: Product prod Solomon Dana: discuss Randy Richards: What Solomon Dana: everything. Randy Richards: slides? Troy Robbins: Yep. Okay. Okay. So, this is our product or prototype. This is made by clay. Terry Kelley: Looks strange. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Uh the basic colour is uh yellow and red. Yellow is uh our company colour, Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: uh red it's uh is more attractive. So we used two basic colour, yellow and red. And the there's two basic shape. The first is a circle and the second is a triangle s piece. It's Solomon Dana: Okay. Troy Robbins: we call it a mushroom design. It's looks like some mushroom, Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: so we call it mushroom design. Solomon Dana: Uh Troy Robbins: So this is a introduction of our product. Next Terry Kelley: Genetically Troy Robbins: a mo Terry Kelley: modified mushroom I will say, but Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: keep Troy Robbins: Okay, Terry Kelley: on speaking. Troy Robbins: yeah, so next slide. So there are several key features of our pr prototype. The first is that it is fuzzy. I'm sure this would be the unique design the market. Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: Oh. Solomon Dana: yeah I'm sure. Terry Kelley: Maybe, I hope so. Troy Robbins: Yeah, so it's a fuzzy design, and a unique design. Solomon Dana: Yeah, that's Troy Robbins: Um, Solomon Dana: true. Troy Robbins: and uh the second key feature is that uh s circle channel um selection. In the traditional key uh traditional controller use button to to select the channel but now we have a s circle, so we can turn this ball to t to select channel. So it's quite Terry Kelley: Chan Troy Robbins: convenient for user to use it. Terry Kelley: Yeah, okay, but don't Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: touch don't destroy Troy Robbins: s Terry Kelley: your prototype. Troy Robbins: okay. Uh the third feature is a stable triangle base. Uh this sta uh this triangle base is very stable, so uh so it's it's um it's unlikely you cannot found it. So it's v Um, you can put it in the table so you can turn the the ball to cha to select the channel and there's some cute button. You c can can you can see the the shape of the buttons n is a mushroom, so Terry Kelley: Everything's mushroom. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: So Troy Robbins: everything's Terry Kelley: we can Troy Robbins: mushroom. Terry Kelley: call our Troy Robbins: Mush Terry Kelley: remote control the mushroom. Solomon Dana: Yeah Troy Robbins: Mushroom Solomon Dana: but Troy Robbins: design, Solomon Dana: it's not Troy Robbins: yeah. Solomon Dana: like really mushroom because you have uh you know uh like lemon shape, you know, centre Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: is Terry Kelley: Okay. Solomon Dana: yellow and Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: t Troy Robbins: th that's why if Solomon Dana: d Troy Robbins: you put it in the table, be Solomon Dana: To integrate, Troy Robbins: careful, Solomon Dana: you Troy Robbins: somebody Solomon Dana: know yeah. Troy Robbins: will eat it. Solomon Dana: I don't think I hope nobody will eat it. You know, to integrate the fruit aspect, you know the Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Oh. Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: the Randy Richards: because mushroom Solomon Dana: in Randy Richards: was not in the trends. I mean Solomon Dana: Really? Randy Richards: there Terry Kelley: Fruits Solomon Dana: But Randy Richards: was fruits Terry Kelley: and vegetables. Randy Richards: yeah. Solomon Dana: Fruit and vegetable, so Terry Kelley: Vegetables. Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: mushroom was Terry Kelley: Mushroom Solomon Dana: a kind Terry Kelley: is a vegetable. Solomon Dana: of you know Randy Richards: I don't think Solomon Dana: uh Randy Richards: it is. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: It's vegetable. Solomon Dana: Mushroom? Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Mm-hmm. Solomon Dana: Oh, uh I'm not Terry Kelley: So Solomon Dana: sure. Terry Kelley: th it's something eatable. Solomon Dana: We can Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: it's a veg a kind of vegetable, but you know Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: we we integrated them with different Randy Richards: But Solomon Dana: colour. Randy Richards: anyway this is not a mushroom anyway, so Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: it's fine. Solomon Dana: I I think we take into account what you said about fruit and vegetable you know. This, you know, very Randy Richards: No, I mean, Solomon Dana: enlighted Randy Richards: yeah Solomon Dana: colours, you Randy Richards: yeah. Solomon Dana: know. Randy Richards: Inspira inspiration Solomon Dana: And inspired Randy Richards: is Solomon Dana: colour and and very sophisticated material, so. Randy Richards: True. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: And so Terry Kelley: Next slide. Troy Robbins: Uh, no this our only Solomon Dana: So Troy Robbins: two Solomon Dana: what Troy Robbins: slides. Solomon Dana: we w what I can add is that, you know he talk about what is outside, Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: so what is inside is what we dis what we talked before about, you know, the chip, it is a low level chip, and Troy Robbins: So we cut it to see. Solomon Dana: You know, we don't need to k. Terry Kelley: Mm-hmm. Solomon Dana: You know wi the low level chips inside and you know the L_C_D_ button Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: and the Troy Robbins: So Solomon Dana: i Troy Robbins: where's the battery battery? Solomon Dana: The battery it is under. It Terry Kelley: In the base. Solomon Dana: is in Troy Robbins: Base. Solomon Dana: th in Terry Kelley: In the Solomon Dana: in Terry Kelley: basement. Solomon Dana: the base, Troy Robbins: Here? Solomon Dana: yeah. Terry Kelley: In the basement. And where is Randy Richards: But Terry Kelley: the Randy Richards: we Terry Kelley: solar Randy Richards: say uh Terry Kelley: solar Randy Richards: we sa Terry Kelley: cell? Randy Richards: we said solar. Terry Kelley: Where Solomon Dana: In Terry Kelley: is Solomon Dana: fact Terry Kelley: the solar Solomon Dana: this Terry Kelley: cell? Solomon Dana: this this this is a kind of you know revolutionary solar receptor that we can put outside and Terry Kelley: Oh. Do you Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: think it won't be It won't cris increase the price? Solomon Dana: I don't think so, Terry Kelley: Okay, Solomon Dana: but it Terry Kelley: we'll Solomon Dana: it's Terry Kelley: see after. Solomon Dana: might be Terry Kelley: We Solomon Dana: okay, so. Terry Kelley: will have Solomon Dana: I Terry Kelley: first Solomon Dana: it might be Terry Kelley: to Solomon Dana: okay. Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: So Terry Kelley: so, mister money, what's Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: your opinion according to this remote control? Randy Richards: I mean, we gonna try to measure how good it is instead of just talking about uh we had three keys key points to uh for this remote control design, and first one was uh Terry Kelley: Mm-hmm. Randy Richards: fancy look and feel. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: So w we'll try to judge this feature uh with a one to seven scale, one being uh no, I think. Uh just let Randy Richards check. Solomon Dana: So, four point three point five, it means it's acceptable. Randy Richards: One one being true, and seven being false. Okay. Solomon Dana: Oops. Randy Richards: Ouch. So Troy Robbins: Okay. Randy Richards: Do we have a fancy look and feel, Troy Robbins: Yeah, Randy Richards: according Troy Robbins: I Randy Richards: to Troy Robbins: think Randy Richards: you? Troy Robbins: so. Solomon Dana: I think you have nice colours. I don't Randy Richards: But is it Solomon Dana: The sha the bowl shape Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: people Troy Robbins: the shape Solomon Dana: like. Troy Robbins: is unique, and the colour Randy Richards: Uh I'll agree it's unique, but is it really Troy Robbins: So Solomon Dana: Is Troy Robbins: it Solomon Dana: it Troy Robbins: depend Solomon Dana: really Troy Robbins: on Solomon Dana: fancy? Troy Robbins: how d do you define fancy. Randy Richards: Yeah I mean, fancy was was defined by s fruit and vegetable look. Solomon Dana: But it's you have the lemon aspect of this th this this thing. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Maybe if you change if you take the buttons out, Solomon Dana: Do Don't Terry Kelley: and maybe Solomon Dana: do that, Terry Kelley: do Solomon Dana: please. Terry Kelley: things like that Randy Richards: I dunno where the lemon is, but I mean it's Solomon Dana: I Randy Richards: not Solomon Dana: it's Randy Richards: obvious. Solomon Dana: it's i this shape is a lemon like, so Terry Kelley: It would be bet more like a lemon? Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: If Solomon Dana: Because Randy Richards: I dunno, maybe Solomon Dana: i Randy Richards: improving the texture of like having Terry Kelley: Yeah. Randy Richards: it less Solomon Dana: Less Randy Richards: smooth Solomon Dana: button. Randy Richards: or Troy Robbins: Uh so, my mush. Terry Kelley: Looks like more fruit. Solomon Dana: Yeah, Troy Robbins: Mm. Solomon Dana: but you Terry Kelley: Maybe Solomon Dana: don't have any Terry Kelley: a Solomon Dana: button now. Terry Kelley: pineapple? Randy Richards: Yeah. I dunno. Terry Kelley: And you know, you have the finger here, Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: with the buttons? Troy Robbins: Hmm. Solomon Dana: That's uh yeah, is Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: that Randy Richards: it's Solomon Dana: that's Randy Richards: getting Solomon Dana: a good idea. So that's great. Terry Kelley: It looks more like a pineapple. Solomon Dana: That's Terry Kelley: Sorry. Solomon Dana: great. Terry Kelley: What's the use for that? Troy Robbins: Uh, for Solomon Dana: I have Troy Robbins: turn Solomon Dana: no Troy Robbins: turn Solomon Dana: idea, Troy Robbins: the ball. Solomon Dana: so. Troy Robbins: If you want to turn the ball, Solomon Dana: I have no idea Troy Robbins: it's very it's very convenient for Solomon Dana: what Troy Robbins: you to to to turn the ball to change the channel. Randy Richards: Okay. Terry Kelley: And Troy Robbins: Uh. Terry Kelley: where is the voice recognition? Troy Robbins: Ah, it's embedded, your microphone. Randy Richards: Yeah, that's Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: Th this th th there's two Randy Richards: Wait th that's Troy Robbins: two Randy Richards: the Troy Robbins: functions. Randy Richards: second point. Troy Robbins: This is microphone Randy Richards: First one Troy Robbins: array Randy Richards: is we have to judge the Solomon Dana: If it is fancy or not. Randy Richards: fancy Terry Kelley: Okay. Randy Richards: look and feel. Terry Kelley: Is it better Randy Richards: I mean Terry Kelley: like that? Solomon Dana: So Terry Kelley: Looks Solomon Dana: we can we can Terry Kelley: okay, Solomon Dana: say Terry Kelley: let's say it's Solomon Dana: t Terry Kelley: a pineapple now. Solomon Dana: The colour, is the colour acceptable? Randy Richards: No, the colour is okay, that's fine. Solomon Dana: So the shape Randy Richards: I mean Solomon Dana: now. Randy Richards: it's Terry Kelley: It Randy Richards: but Terry Kelley: looks Randy Richards: I Terry Kelley: like Randy Richards: would say Terry Kelley: a Randy Richards: there is more too much red. Terry Kelley: now Solomon Dana: It's Terry Kelley: you Solomon Dana: too Terry Kelley: took Solomon Dana: much Terry Kelley: it. Solomon Dana: red? Randy Richards: Um Solomon Dana: In Randy Richards: if Solomon Dana: the basement? Terry Kelley: It looks like a pineapple with cherry on top. Troy Robbins: Okay. Randy Richards: Right. So, from one to seven? Terry Kelley: Mm uh Solomon Dana: I will give Terry Kelley: Seven Solomon Dana: I will Terry Kelley: is the ma the maximum? Randy Richards: No, Solomon Dana: I'll Randy Richards: seven Solomon Dana: gi Randy Richards: is false and one is true. Solomon Dana: I'll give two or three. Three, it's Terry Kelley: Three, Solomon Dana: okay. Terry Kelley: I will say three. Solomon Dana: Three, three. Randy Richards: Three? Solomon Dana: Three is fine for Randy Richards. Randy Richards: Okay. Troy Robbins: 'Kay. Randy Richards: Three. Terry Kelley: Isn't it bitter like that? Troy Robbins: Yeah yeah Randy Richards: Then Troy Robbins: yeah. Randy Richards: uh let Randy Richards Solomon Dana: What other Randy Richards: The other criterion is Solomon Dana: Is it easy Randy Richards: is it Solomon Dana: to use? Randy Richards: technologically uh Terry Kelley: Feasible? Randy Richards: technologically in innovative. Solomon Dana: Ye uh Terry Kelley: You said previously that you there's um microphone inside an Solomon Dana: Embedded. Troy Robbins: Yeah, this is microphone array, in fact. Solomon Dana: It's a micro Troy Robbins: There four Solomon Dana: array, Troy Robbins: microphone. Terry Kelley: Oh. Okay, Solomon Dana: okay. Troy Robbins: So they they they Terry Kelley: and Troy Robbins: they Terry Kelley: you Troy Robbins: there's Terry Kelley: have Troy Robbins: a microphone Terry Kelley: the Troy Robbins: array. Terry Kelley: there's the technology inside that recognise simple vocal Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: comments? Troy Robbins: yeah. So you Terry Kelley: And Troy Robbins: can Terry Kelley: you Troy Robbins: capture Terry Kelley: can turn Troy Robbins: voice Terry Kelley: it so Solomon Dana: Oh Troy Robbins: yeah, Solomon Dana: yeah, Terry Kelley: maybe Troy Robbins: you Solomon Dana: yeah. Terry Kelley: it's Troy Robbins: c Terry Kelley: techno Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: technologically Troy Robbins: so you can Solomon Dana: And Terry Kelley: innov Solomon Dana: I Troy Robbins: capture Solomon Dana: think Terry Kelley: innovative? Solomon Dana: you you've never seen Troy Robbins: s voice Solomon Dana: a rou Troy Robbins: from Solomon Dana: a round Troy Robbins: different Solomon Dana: remote control, so Troy Robbins: directions. Solomon Dana: it is Randy Richards: Yeah Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: bu but Solomon Dana: I Randy Richards: when you say technologically it's more uh Solomon Dana: W Randy Richards: I dunno, Solomon Dana: Yeah, but Randy Richards: in the core, or single. Terry Kelley: We have tactile buttons. Randy Richards: Mm-hmm. Solomon Dana: I see, you have microphone array embedded. You have Randy Richards: No, that's good. Yeah. Solomon Dana: That's good. And you have, you know this ki this solar Terry Kelley: Oh, Solomon Dana: receptor Terry Kelley: yeah. Solomon Dana: that, Randy Richards: Yeah, th Solomon Dana: you Randy Richards: that's Solomon Dana: know Randy Richards: another Solomon Dana: Yes. Randy Richards: really good point. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: Maybe Solomon Dana: I think technically Randy Richards: okay. Solomon Dana: it's acceptable, so Terry Kelley: Maybe two? Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: So using the same scale, two? Terry Kelley: Two? Solomon Dana: Two, Terry Kelley: I Solomon Dana: yeah, two. It's Terry Kelley: would Solomon Dana: it's Terry Kelley: say Solomon Dana: fine, Terry Kelley: two. Solomon Dana: so. Terry Kelley: You agree? Randy Richards: Okay. Troy Robbins: Yeah, I agree. Terry Kelley: It's better Randy Richards: Now Terry Kelley: like Randy Richards: maybe Terry Kelley: that, isn't Randy Richards: the most Terry Kelley: it? Randy Richards: critical one. Terry Kelley: Okay. Solomon Dana: Most Randy Richards: L last one w I would like to judge is is it easy to use? Solomon Dana: Eh, for th the vocal command yes, it's might be easy. But it's Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: just Troy Robbins: it's Solomon Dana: speaking. Troy Robbins: very easy. Solomon Dana: You just need Randy Richards: Yeah but Solomon Dana: the Randy Richards: this Solomon Dana: command. Troy Robbins: You Randy Richards: this Troy Robbins: can Randy Richards: turning Troy Robbins: use this in this way. Randy Richards: can you can you just re explain Randy Richards the Solomon Dana: As a principle. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Please. Troy Robbins: Th this is the base. Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: So you can turn to change the channel. Randy Richards: Yeah but how how intuitive is it to turn things Troy Robbins: You just Randy Richards: to change Troy Robbins: tu Randy Richards: channels? Troy Robbins: turn d Solomon Dana: I Troy Robbins: d Solomon Dana: think maybe if you Randy Richards: Like Solomon Dana: he Randy Richards: if you want Terry Kelley: Oh, Randy Richards: to Terry Kelley: ok Randy Richards: go from Terry Kelley: I understand. Solomon Dana: If you hear some Terry Kelley: You take Solomon Dana: click Terry Kelley: take the remote, so and you can turn Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: like that to change the channel? Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah but imagine Terry Kelley: I Randy Richards: you Terry Kelley: think Randy Richards: y Terry Kelley: it's quite easy to so s zapping, but maybe it will be too fast. Solomon Dana: Yeah, it Randy Richards: Yeah Solomon Dana: would Randy Richards: I'm I'm no I'm not definitely convinced it's it's the best way to if you wanna jump from, I dunno, one to twenty? Solomon Dana: Oh Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: yeah, that's difficult. Randy Richards: How can you Solomon Dana: That's Randy Richards: go Solomon Dana: dif that's Randy Richards: directly Solomon Dana: difficult. Randy Richards: to twenty, for example? Troy Robbins: No, no, no. I if y Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: uh if it depend on the the angle you turn the Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah Randy Richards: I Solomon Dana: but Randy Richards: agree. Solomon Dana: y how Randy Richards: I agree. But I mean if Solomon Dana: you need to know Troy Robbins: I if Randy Richards: you're Solomon Dana: I Randy Richards: fro Troy Robbins: if Randy Richards: from Troy Robbins: this Randy Richards: two? Troy Robbins: is a channel one. So it c it could be channel Solomon Dana: I think Troy Robbins: two, Solomon Dana: something Troy Robbins: channel Solomon Dana: that Troy Robbins: three, channel Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: four, channel five. Terry Kelley: Yeah, you have Troy Robbins: So Terry Kelley: a, Troy Robbins: change. Terry Kelley: like Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: that, Solomon Dana: And Randy Richards: Yeah Solomon Dana: you Terry Kelley: and Solomon Dana: you Randy Richards: ju Solomon Dana: can Randy Richards: just Terry Kelley: so on. Randy Richards: imagine you have fifty fifty Terry Kelley: Oh Randy Richards: channels Terry Kelley: yeah. Randy Richards: uh Troy Robbins: Y uh fifth channel Randy Richards: We're not Troy Robbins: divided Randy Richards: talking Troy Robbins: by the num by the by three hundred thirteen degree. Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: So you got how many degree you Terry Kelley: Yeah Troy Robbins: you Terry Kelley: but y but you have Troy Robbins: it Terry Kelley: to go through all the channels if Solomon Dana: I Terry Kelley: you Troy Robbins: No Solomon Dana: think Terry Kelley: want Solomon Dana: you Troy Robbins: no, Terry Kelley: to Solomon Dana: can Troy Robbins: you Terry Kelley: go Troy Robbins: don't Solomon Dana: if Troy Robbins: have Solomon Dana: you have Troy Robbins: to Solomon Dana: a scale, Troy Robbins: y Solomon Dana: so Troy Robbins: no it's uh when you when you stop t uh when you stop, the the turn, Terry Kelley: Mm-hmm. Troy Robbins: then the angle you stop is the angle you is Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: the channel you Randy Richards: How d how do you know this angle is th is the correct one? Troy Robbins: It's it's very easy, because you kn you know how many channel are there in Randy Richards: So Troy Robbins: the Randy Richards: you you count one degree, two degrees, no. Troy Robbins: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do it. Randy Richards: I don't think so. Troy Robbins: I think so I Solomon Dana: Yeah, Troy Robbins: think so you Solomon Dana: it's Troy Robbins: can Solomon Dana: a Troy Robbins: do Solomon Dana: bit Troy Robbins: it. Solomon Dana: difficult. Troy Robbins: I think so, you can just Solomon Dana: I think Troy Robbins: change. Solomon Dana: b but the the vocal command is easy too. You can say fifty Randy Richards: Yeah voc vocal Solomon Dana: and Randy Richards: command is okay. Solomon Dana: fifty it's okay, so Randy Richards: But w we've said previously that maybe it's not going Troy Robbins: There's Randy Richards: to be Troy Robbins: uh also Randy Richards: th l Terry Kelley: Yeah, Troy Robbins: a number, Terry Kelley: but when you're Troy Robbins: you Randy Richards: the Troy Robbins: know. Randy Richards: main Terry Kelley: zapping you're changing from one channel to the other, so you're passing through all the channels. So, when you say I want to go to the channel number twenty that's you've decided to go to channel twenty, so you can say channel twenty, Solomon Dana: Uh, yeah, Terry Kelley: or Solomon Dana: and Terry Kelley: channel Solomon Dana: y that's Terry Kelley: four, because Solomon Dana: yeah. Terry Kelley: you really want to go on this channel. But if you really Randy Richards: And this Terry Kelley: want Randy Richards: would be Terry Kelley: to Randy Richards: more for browsing, Terry Kelley: to do zapping Randy Richards: ah. Terry Kelley: you you Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: don't really know what you want to do, you can turn it. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Just go through all the channels Solomon Dana: To see Terry Kelley: and maybe Troy Robbins: Mm-hmm. Solomon Dana: uh Terry Kelley: stop if Solomon Dana: yeah Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: there is something Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: uh Terry Kelley: interesting? Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: Seems to be good. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Good choice, mister David Jordan. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah, I mean you're famous. Solomon Dana: And but Troy Robbins: And also Solomon Dana: I'd Troy Robbins: you can, if Randy Richards: You. Troy Robbins: you i Terry Kelley: yeah, what's Troy Robbins: You ca Terry Kelley: what's Troy Robbins: you can Terry Kelley: this Troy Robbins: turn this. Terry Kelley: cherry? Troy Robbins: Or you ca you can you can also Solomon Dana: It is a turn Troy Robbins: turn Solomon Dana: off Troy Robbins: this. Solomon Dana: t turn off Troy Robbins: For Solomon Dana: button, Troy Robbins: this you Solomon Dana: maybe. Troy Robbins: can tune it's for tune. You you if you want to skip from channel one to channel two, you you skip this. If you want to from uh skip from channel one to channel ten you tune this. Randy Richards: Mm. Troy Robbins: It's like fine, from coarse to fine. This is coarse, this is fine. Solomon Dana: Yeah, yeah yeah. That's Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: So it's coarse to fine Solomon Dana: that's Troy Robbins: design. Solomon Dana: very technologic, so. Yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Okay the uh th this looks better. Yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah is is this is, from one channel Solomon Dana: S Troy Robbins: to Solomon Dana: But I Troy Robbins: maybe Solomon Dana: di Troy Robbins: to Solomon Dana: I didn't Troy Robbins: ten channel. Solomon Dana: see where the Troy Robbins: This Solomon Dana: t f Troy Robbins: is from Solomon Dana: the turn Troy Robbins: one channel Solomon Dana: off Troy Robbins: to Solomon Dana: t turn on turn off button so much activates maybe one of the Terry Kelley: Yeah, Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: th you Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: have the vocal commands. Solomon Dana: Uh it's Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: k Terry Kelley: On off. Solomon Dana: on off, yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah, but it has to be on to Terry Kelley: Most Randy Richards: recognise Terry Kelley: of the time Randy Richards: fas Terry Kelley: you have the yeah it's a sleeping remote control. Solomon Dana: Yeah, sleeping. Randy Richards: Ah, that's not the ecological Terry Kelley: That's Randy Richards: part, Terry Kelley: true. W that Randy Richards: yeah. Terry Kelley: why we have the Randy Richards: Solar. Terry Kelley: solar Solomon Dana: To compensate. Terry Kelley: ti yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: So, which number? Terry Kelley: three. Solomon Dana: Easy to use, it's very relative but three it's fine, I think, it's reasonable Troy Robbins: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: Do you agree? Solomon Dana: three. Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: Three? Troy Robbins: agree, agree. Randy Richards: So reasonably, is four, is one? Solomon Dana: Three f three for Randy Richards, it's o it's okay. Randy Richards: So, Solomon Dana: Four Randy Richards: three. Solomon Dana: or three. Maybe you can vote to see how many everybody gives no and just take Terry Kelley: And Solomon Dana: the mean. Terry Kelley: what's your opinion? Randy Richards: Uh Solomon Dana: Will Randy Richards: we Solomon Dana: you Randy Richards: wouldn't Solomon Dana: give Randy Richards: say, I mean, Solomon Dana: four? Randy Richards: those are sort of agreed but this one would be more five to Randy Richards. Solomon Dana: Five? Randy Richards: I'd like I mean this is the just a prototype. I'm not really convinced it's so easy to use, Solomon Dana: Yeah, Randy Richards: but Solomon Dana: so Randy Richards: I don't Solomon Dana: maybe Troy Robbins: Uh Randy Richards: know. Solomon Dana: if Troy Robbins: w w what do y what uh you compare with traditional Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: uh um tr traditional controller? I think it's easier than traditional controller. If you use traditional controller you have to put a button, but now you don't have to put button, you have you just turn the Solomon Dana: Yeah Troy Robbins: turn the Solomon Dana: but Troy Robbins: ball. Solomon Dana: y you know Troy Robbins: There's Randy Richards: So you have Troy Robbins: two kind of balls, the smaller the the the Randy Richards: yeah. Troy Robbins: so you can c you can c you can control the scale. But in the traditional controller, how do how can you control the scale? Randy Richards: Uh by pushing Solomon Dana: You just push Randy Richards: zero Solomon Dana: two button, Randy Richards: after Solomon Dana: zero Randy Richards: after Solomon Dana: and Randy Richards: the first one. Solomon Dana: and Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: one. And Troy Robbins: yeah, yeah, y you you can do it, Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: but Solomon Dana: that's Troy Robbins: you can also do it in the b if you you do not wa if you do not want to browsing all the channel you can just p there's also a button here. Solomon Dana: Are there some buttons? Okay. Troy Robbins: Yeah, this function is just for your browsing, from one channel to th the next one, the next s sn s, the Randy Richards: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: It's Troy Robbins: th the Terry Kelley: not Troy Robbins: third Terry Kelley: what Troy Robbins: one. Terry Kelley: you said previously. Previously Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: you Randy Richards: if you're Terry Kelley: said Randy Richards: changing Terry Kelley: that turning Randy Richards: your mind. Terry Kelley: this was the fine Randy Richards: Fine to coarse. Terry Kelley: Fine Troy Robbins: Yeah, Terry Kelley: to coarse. And Troy Robbins: yeah. Terry Kelley: from ten to ten channels Troy Robbins: Y one Terry Kelley: here. Troy Robbins: to ten, ten to twelve, uh ten to t uh twenty. Ten to twenty and this one, t one two three four five six, like this. Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: Uh there's different scale, so you can Randy Richards: Okay. Troy Robbins: you can choose Randy Richards: But this Troy Robbins: how much do Randy Richards: this Troy Robbins: you want Randy Richards: has Troy Robbins: to Randy Richards: to Troy Robbins: sc Randy Richards: stay on the table, right? Troy Robbins: Mm-hmm. Randy Richards: This has to stay on the table. Troy Robbins: I i Solomon Dana: In fact on a flat Troy Robbins: this is Solomon Dana: place Troy Robbins: just a base. You can just Solomon Dana: You can Randy Richards: Yeah Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: but then uh when you turn Terry Kelley: Oh Randy Richards: turn it Solomon Dana: Oh ye yes, that's Terry Kelley: Yeah, Randy Richards: Just Solomon Dana: right. Terry Kelley: no no, no. You can't put Randy Richards: It's Terry Kelley: it out. It's just your turning from the base. You need to have everything in hand. If you want to turn, you can't use it and turn. It's impossible. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: You need to put it on and Randy Richards: You know Terry Kelley: turn. Randy Richards: tha that's the weak point, Solomon Dana: Oh Randy Richards: because with a traditional Troy Robbins: You use your Randy Richards: one Troy Robbins: y Randy Richards: you just have one hand. Terry Kelley: Yeah, but Solomon Dana: my Terry Kelley: nobody Solomon Dana: God. Terry Kelley: would be able to take it in the pocket and bring it in the kitchen and say I've lost the remote control. Nobody would take it. Randy Richards: Sure. Yeah, you would never Terry Kelley: So nobody Randy Richards: you would Terry Kelley: w Randy Richards: never lose Terry Kelley: will Randy Richards: this one, Terry Kelley: lost Randy Richards: yeah. Terry Kelley: lose Troy Robbins: So Terry Kelley: it. Troy Robbins: th this is a d next generation controller. Solomon Dana: yeah Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: maybe, maybe may it's the next Troy Robbins: Okay Solomon Dana: prototype, Troy Robbins: okay, Solomon Dana: maybe Troy Robbins: okay. Solomon Dana: we cou Terry Kelley: S maybe we can change from Solomon Dana: Four. Terry Kelley: th Solomon Dana: Maybe four, Troy Robbins: Four. Solomon Dana: it's okay. Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: Four? Solomon Dana: I'll put four. Terry Kelley: Easy to use, four. Gonna Randy Richards: Four. Terry Kelley: say four. Solomon Dana: Yeah, four it's more Randy Richards: Uh Solomon Dana: reasonable. Randy Richards: it's even easier to maybe. Solomon Dana: You can you can erase with this er Randy Richards: Ok Solomon Dana: yeah. Troy Robbins: Okay. Randy Richards: Mm. Solomon Dana: Yeah, four it's more reasonable, so. So Randy Richards: So, Solomon Dana: it's Randy Richards: average? Solomon Dana: nine, nine over Randy Richards: Three? Troy Robbins: Three? Solomon Dana: three. Terry Kelley: Trois. Three. Solomon Dana: Oh yeah, it's. Troy Robbins: Trois. Randy Richards: Okay, so Solomon Dana: It need maybe some wo further work, but Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: it's Randy Richards: especially on the easy to use Solomon Dana: Yeah, uh s Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: yeah. Randy Richards: target. Solomon Dana: Might Terry Kelley: So, Solomon Dana: it might be fine. Randy Richards: Okay. Terry Kelley: th the project is accepted? Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah, b I think Terry Kelley: But I d m I think that it will be good to do some more work to transform this into a pineapple. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah, yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Okay. Terry Kelley: So uh mm Solomon Dana: That's Terry Kelley: mm. Solomon Dana: the finance. Terry Kelley: Mm. Okay and we we had a project prototype presentation with the evaluation. So as we all agree to accept, Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: Mm. Terry Kelley: under Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: certain conditions, the prototype, we'll have look to the final sh financial view. So we need to calculate the production cost. Randy Richards: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: As I said in the first meeting we need to have so a remote control that would cost not more than twelve and Troy Robbins: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: point fifty Euros. Troy Robbins: Mm-hmm. Terry Kelley: And if not if it's not the case y you would have to redesign it. Solomon Dana: Oh yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: So, just have a look at the okay here is the Excel sheet, so so it has the energy source. We have hand dynamo. No, Randy Richards: No. Terry Kelley: we don't use that. We have battery, right? Solomon Dana: Yeah, we have battery. Terry Kelley: Kinetic, we don't have it, Solomon Dana: No, Terry Kelley: I suppose, Solomon Dana: um Terry Kelley: but we Solomon Dana: solar Terry Kelley: have solar Solomon Dana: cells, Terry Kelley: cells. Solomon Dana: yeah. Terry Kelley: Um, how many do y do you need, solar cells? Do you think one would be enough, or such as Solomon Dana: Uh I think in Terry Kelley: as Solomon Dana: each Terry Kelley: number Solomon Dana: ball Terry Kelley: of Solomon Dana: you Terry Kelley: branches? Solomon Dana: have three Terry Kelley: Three? Solomon Dana: three uh yeah, three, yeah. Three three solar cells. Terry Kelley: So, electronic. Single simple chip on print? Just Solomon Dana: S Terry Kelley: one Solomon Dana: s Terry Kelley: would be necessary? Solomon Dana: simple, simple, yeah. Terry Kelley: One? Solomon Dana: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Zero for the others. And sample sensor, sample speaker. One? Solomon Dana: Mm. One maybe, yeah. Terry Kelley: As we have voice recognition, Solomon Dana: Yeah Terry Kelley: I think. Solomon Dana: yeah yeah. Terry Kelley: So Solomon Dana: Is it Terry Kelley: the case. Solomon Dana: Is sh it Randy Richards: So we are all already nineteen. Solomon Dana: Wooden. Terry Kelley: Okay, just Troy Robbins: The solar cell Terry Kelley: keep Troy Robbins: is too Terry Kelley: on going, Troy Robbins: expensive. Terry Kelley: just Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: to have an idea. Solomon Dana: Is Yes a wooden pl I and that's There's no Terry Kelley: Well Solomon Dana: wood, so plastic Terry Kelley: uh Solomon Dana: just only, Terry Kelley: yeah, Solomon Dana: I think. Terry Kelley: but what what about case? Uncurved, flat, single curved, double curved. I think it's more like Randy Richards: That's Terry Kelley: double Randy Richards: gonna be Terry Kelley: curved. Randy Richards: double Solomon Dana: Double Randy Richards: curved, Solomon Dana: curve, yeah, Randy Richards: yeah. Solomon Dana: double curve. Terry Kelley: One? Solomon Dana: One, you have. Terry Kelley: Uh wood? Solomon Dana: But it's yeah, Randy Richards: Rather four Solomon Dana: a Randy Richards: buttons. Solomon Dana: a rubber uh Randy Richards: Oh Terry Kelley: Uh Randy Richards: no, interface. Terry Kelley: do we need special colour? Y maybe, Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: two? Solomon Dana: yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: We have Randy Richards: yeah Terry Kelley: two Randy Richards: that's Terry Kelley: special Solomon Dana: Y Randy Richards: special Terry Kelley: colours. Randy Richards: colours, Solomon Dana: y yeah, yeah. Randy Richards: sure. Terry Kelley: Push button. Troy Robbins: Mm. Yeah, we have four. Solomon Dana: Five? Troy Robbins: Five. Terry Kelley: Okay. Scroll wheel. Troy Robbins: No. Terry Kelley: We don no. It it's more like integrated Solomon Dana: I think Terry Kelley: scor. Solomon Dana: that this will Troy Robbins: No Solomon Dana: be Troy Robbins: no. Solomon Dana: like a scroll Randy Richards: Yeah tha Solomon Dana: wheel, Randy Richards: that's Solomon Dana: actually. Randy Richards: wheel. Solomon Dana: Y you Troy Robbins: No Solomon Dana: tu Troy Robbins: no no, it Solomon Dana: you turn you turn it, so Terry Kelley: Yeah, Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: maybe Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: two scroll wheel, as we Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: have Solomon Dana: true. Terry Kelley: the coarse Solomon Dana: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Terry Kelley: coarse to fine scroll Solomon Dana: Okay, Terry Kelley: wheel. Solomon Dana: yeah, yeah. Scr Terry Kelley: So, Randy Richards: I think the Terry Kelley: no Randy Richards: price Terry Kelley: button Randy Richards: is okay. Terry Kelley: supplements? Troy Robbins: No. Terry Kelley: Okay. Randy Richards: Um, no. Terry Kelley: Okay we I think we have problem. Solomon Dana: L_C_ display, maybe. Interface. Terry Kelley: I think we s if we keep on adding things Solomon Dana: It's okay. fine. Terry Kelley: so we have to Randy Richards: Yeah w one of the m key point is solar cells. Terry Kelley: Maybe if w t if suppose if we change and we g put just one? Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Has it changed. Solomon Dana: Yeah, it was stage one, so. Randy Richards: but Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: We have change Randy Richards: just imagine Troy Robbins: the electronics Randy Richards: we have Troy Robbins: to from from the the the sample Solomon Dana: So Troy Robbins: sensor to regular chip. Oh. We have to delete the the sample sensor, I think. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Yeah, but we have you the the voice recognition, no? Randy Richards: Yeah but this one one of the feature we were not Troy Robbins: Yeah it's Randy Richards: really Troy Robbins: the one it's m maybe Terry Kelley: Okay. Troy Robbins: we ha we have two versions, the first version, the basic version. Solomon Dana: I think you can Troy Robbins: Advanced Solomon Dana: transform Randy Richards: Yeah. Troy Robbins: version Solomon Dana: the Troy Robbins: we Solomon Dana: wood Troy Robbins: have Solomon Dana: into Troy Robbins: speak. Solomon Dana: plastic, maybe. Because uh Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: it seems Randy Richards: if Solomon Dana: that this Terry Kelley: Or Solomon Dana: can Terry Kelley: it Solomon Dana: be Terry Kelley: would be better. Solomon Dana: yeah, wood into plastic and it it should be fine. Troy Robbins: Plastic is free. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: So, do we need special colour? Randy Richards: Yeah, that's one of Terry Kelley: Because we have Randy Richards: the Terry Kelley: red. Randy Richards: requirement. Solomon Dana: Yeah, red and Troy Robbins: Wait. Solomon Dana: yellow. Terry Kelley: Red and yellow. Randy Richards: We Solomon Dana: Fancy. Randy Richards: could Troy Robbins: We Randy Richards: turn Troy Robbins: we Randy Richards: we Troy Robbins: can Randy Richards: could Troy Robbins: we Randy Richards: turn Troy Robbins: can Randy Richards: everything Troy Robbins: we c Randy Richards: in either Troy Robbins: yellow. Randy Richards: yellow or black. Black then is a regular colour, so. Terry Kelley: I think so we need if we try to have a kind of Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: pineapple Randy Richards: one. Terry Kelley: bee. Randy Richards: Yeah. So push button then it's it's the next expensive Terry Kelley: Yeah. Randy Richards: one. Terry Kelley: An but we have integrated scroll wheel with push dut button. And I think this is one. Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: Integrated Randy Richards: thi this might Terry Kelley: scroll Randy Richards: be. Terry Kelley: wheel push button. So we'll we have only one? And push button. Randy Richards: Close to. Terry Kelley: So if we have all Solomon Dana: One. Terry Kelley: integrated i in the scroll wheel and push button, it's uh Solomon Dana: I can remove maybe f you have five with push buttons, so we can just, I dunno, try to modify some of them to have yeah. Randy Richards: Okay, so what's the bottleneck? Troy Robbins: How about we change Randy Richards: Double Troy Robbins: the sale? Randy Richards: curved. Solomon Dana: Double curve. We can transform the double curve into single Terry Kelley: Something flat. Solomon Dana: c yeah. F some Randy Richards: Yeah, but flat Terry Kelley: S uncurved. Randy Richards: Case, what's Terry Kelley: Yeah, maybe Randy Richards: the Terry Kelley: not. Randy Richards: ca Solomon Dana: Single curve. Terry Kelley: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Single curve should be fine, so. Oh, what Terry Kelley: Mm. Troy Robbins: Ah we have Randy Richards: And Troy Robbins: one Randy Richards: then Terry Kelley: Nearly. Randy Richards: one Euro left. Um. Terry Kelley: Maybe don't Solomon Dana: It's Terry Kelley: bat no battery, only solar cells. Solomon Dana: it's a bad idea, so. Randy Richards: Um Terry Kelley: I think there's a problem with the push push button. We only need maybe Solomon Dana: Two? Terry Kelley: just one. Solomon Dana: One. Terry Kelley: Just one. Yeah. Solomon Dana: That's fine. Troy Robbins: Okay. Okay. Solomon Dana: That's Troy Robbins: Agree. Solomon Dana: fine. Randy Richards: So Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: we have one Solomon Dana: One Randy Richards: button, Terry Kelley: yeah, Randy Richards: one Terry Kelley: you will Randy Richards: wheel. Terry Kelley: have So Solomon Dana: s Terry Kelley: one button, and Solomon Dana: one Terry Kelley: s Solomon Dana: scroll wheel, so Terry Kelley: scroll wheel with push button on it. Solomon Dana: And the vocal chord, it's fine. It I th it's fine. Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: It's good they're not charging anything for that. Terry Kelley: So, yeah. It think we we've done good job, as the cost is Troy Robbins: Cou could we have look Terry Kelley: twelve fifty Troy Robbins: Could we Terry Kelley: e Troy Robbins: have look at the Randy Richards: Yeah y actually Troy Robbins: p the Randy Richards: it's wrong. We're not Troy Robbins: the prod Randy Richards: under Troy Robbins: the p Randy Richards: twelve Troy Robbins: the cost? Randy Richards: Euros Terry Kelley: Yeah, but it's Randy Richards: and a half. Terry Kelley: under or equal. It's not written. Solomon Dana: It's Terry Kelley: Sometimes Solomon Dana: fine. Terry Kelley: it's under or equal. Solomon Dana: It's under or Randy Richards: Okay. Solomon Dana: equal. It's fine, so Randy Richards: Okay. Troy Robbins: Okay. So let's say Terry Kelley: Twelve Troy Robbins: Wha what Terry Kelley: fifty. Troy Robbins: yeah. Solomon Dana: It's fine, twelve fifty Troy Robbins: Which part Solomon Dana: uh Troy Robbins: is the most expensive part? Randy Richards: Solar cells. Solomon Dana: The solar Terry Kelley: Yeah, Solomon Dana: cells, Terry Kelley: I think. Solomon Dana: r is Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: i is it? Troy Robbins: I think it's not t t Terry Kelley: I think, yeah. But it would i be interesting for our marketing team, to make Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: a lot Solomon Dana: to Terry Kelley: of Solomon Dana: be able to si Terry Kelley: advertisement Solomon Dana: to sell it. Terry Kelley: concerning these solar cells Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: to be Troy Robbins: Cheaper. Randy Richards: That's nice argument, but Solomon Dana: Yeah, with Randy Richards: if Solomon Dana: mi Randy Richards: it's it's still four Solomon Dana: It's it is Randy Richards: our Solomon Dana: really Randy Richards: of Solomon Dana: really Randy Richards: twelve. Solomon Dana: uh really very very expensive, though. Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: Maybe if uh okay. Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: Yeah but it will be technologically innova innovative, Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: so. Solomon Dana: yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah but we just have one button. Terry Kelley: So it's easy to use and powerful, as the remote control a has only one button. Randy Richards: Easy. I don't know about powerful. Yeah. Solomon Dana: It's easy Terry Kelley: Easy, Solomon Dana: to use. It's very Terry Kelley: powerful. Solomon Dana: easy to use. Randy Richards: Mm. Terry Kelley: So I don't think we need to redesign the p the product. Solomon Dana: No. Randy Richards: Uh that's what we've just done. Solomon Dana: We've done it Terry Kelley: Yeah. Solomon Dana: with it Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: is under the if it was low, high or so. Randy Richards: Um Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: okay. Terry Kelley: Now Solomon Dana: So So what are we going to do with this project evaluation? Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: Well I think we have just have to discuss if Solomon Dana: Okay, okay, it's Randy Richards: I dunno. Solomon Dana: fine. Terry Kelley: So did you enjoy your clay modelling? Troy Robbins: Yes. Of course. This is Terry Kelley: Yeah? Troy Robbins: my job. Terry Kelley: Was it a nice way to create your remote control? Troy Robbins: Yeah, it's uh it's good, to to create a control instead of a computer. Solomon Dana: Yeah, I think I find it really funny and amazing and interesting to go through all the process to from the beginning to the end. And designing, looking at the chips, the solar cells and Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: uh and it was very informative for. Terry Kelley: And for the marketing guy? Randy Richards: Uh tha that was good but we should have more brainstorming like meetings, maybe. Solomon Dana: Yep. Randy Richards: 'Cause we just presenting one is presenting his stuff next one his Troy Robbins: Okay. Randy Richards: stuff and then we try to combine afterwards, so it Solomon Dana: Okay, Randy Richards: um. Solomon Dana: okay. Terry Kelley: And new ideas about new products, maybe, wi which would be fashion and uh and yellow. Solomon Dana: Yellow. I think you can think about a yellow T_V_ now after a fruit T_V_ or I dunno. It can be an interesting I don't know Terry Kelley: Yes, just lemon. Solomon Dana: Yeah, just a lemon T_V_ it'd be yellow Troy Robbins: Yeah, Solomon Dana: lemon. Troy Robbins: but y you know the traditional T_V_ it's um Solomon Dana: It's flat, Troy Robbins: Yeah Solomon Dana: uh Troy Robbins: yeah it's flat, Terry Kelley: Squared? Troy Robbins: yeah the shape is very boring. Solomon Dana: Yeah, that's Troy Robbins: Could Solomon Dana: right. Troy Robbins: we Solomon Dana: It's really boring, Troy Robbins: come up Solomon Dana: yeah. Troy Robbins: with new T_V_ Solomon Dana: Yeah. Troy Robbins: with such as this kind of T_V_? So you can you have base, triangle base so you the T_V_ you Terry Kelley: Ah, Troy Robbins: can Terry Kelley: the lemon T_V_ with the pineapple remote control. Solomon Dana: Yeah, that's Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: that would be really interesting, Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: actually. Troy Robbins: Because the T_V_ you Terry Kelley: Oh, Troy Robbins: also Terry Kelley: that's interesting. You could f we could do a kind of fruit collection of electronics Solomon Dana: Device Terry Kelley: things. Solomon Dana: devi Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Electronic Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: device. Randy Richards: but Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: just don't trust too much the Solomon Dana: The fruit? Randy Richards: trends. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: 'Cause fruit Terry Kelley: Maybe Randy Richards: and vegetables it won't last for ten years uh. Terry Kelley: Yeah, Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: maybe Solomon Dana: it's Terry Kelley: la Randy Richards: Maybe Terry Kelley: next Randy Richards: two Terry Kelley: year Randy Richards: years Terry Kelley: it will Randy Richards: it's Terry Kelley: be Randy Richards: dead. Terry Kelley: insects. Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: But I think it's good to follow the f flow Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: and you know make it now and after, you know, if Troy Robbins: Mm. Solomon Dana: the people change their mind you change also the Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: product. Randy Richards: but this is good because it's not a long long life product. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Randy Richards: T_V_ is more like fifteen years, maybe, so. Solomon Dana: Yeah, Randy Richards: If Solomon Dana: yeah. Randy Richards: you have Solomon Dana: That's Randy Richards: a lemon Solomon Dana: a Randy Richards: lemon Solomon Dana: yeah, Randy Richards: T_V_ for Solomon Dana: yeah. We can Randy Richards: fifteen Solomon Dana: think about Randy Richards: years Solomon Dana: T_V_ with you know where you can change you know the aspects o like for the cell phones, you know. Terry Kelley: Customable Solomon Dana: Yeah, you customise Terry Kelley: T_V_. Solomon Dana: it every ti so every Randy Richards: Yeah, Solomon Dana: ti if Randy Richards: yeah. Solomon Dana: people change, you just change the appearance, Terry Kelley: Ah Solomon Dana: and Terry Kelley: such Solomon Dana: y y Terry Kelley: yeah. Solomon Dana: you Terry Kelley: You've Solomon Dana: can Randy Richards: Tha Solomon Dana: keep Randy Richards: that Terry Kelley: already Randy Richards: would Terry Kelley: said Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: mobile Randy Richards: that would make Terry Kelley: phones. Randy Richards: it. Yeah. Solomon Dana: Yeah, you can keep the global appearan Terry Kelley: Yeah, and following Solomon Dana: The mood of persons, the fashions uh Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Mm. Solomon Dana: We Terry Kelley: It's interesting, maybe Solomon Dana: int Terry Kelley: we can create a a line of uh T_V_ Solomon Dana: Yeah, Terry Kelley: with uh Solomon Dana: T_V_, yeah. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: A Terry Kelley: a Solomon Dana: T_V_ Terry Kelley: a tr Solomon Dana: for autumn and a T_V_ for winter, you know, so Troy Robbins: Yeah. Solomon Dana: it's So what i and do w is it Okay. Terry Kelley: So I think the costs are within the budget. We're just Solomon Dana: Yeah, the Terry Kelley: at Solomon Dana: pr Troy Robbins: Yep. Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: at Terry Kelley: twelve fifty Euros. So do you think you can celebrate your creation? Troy Robbins: And you can celebrate your leadership. Terry Kelley: Oh, thanks a lot. Thank you, Solomon Dana: Yeah Terry Kelley: mister Solomon Dana: but I think Terry Kelley: David Jordan. Solomon Dana: f it's really a celebrating object. So it's yellow and very Troy Robbins: Yeah. Randy Richards: Hmm. Solomon Dana: a very ha it's very happy, so. Randy Richards: Yeah. It's Solomon Dana: Uh it's Randy Richards: party Solomon Dana: it's Randy Richards: party Solomon Dana: a pr it's Randy Richards: remote Solomon Dana: like Randy Richards: control. Solomon Dana: yeah. Terry Kelley: The thing now is to to sell it. Troy Robbins: Yeah, it's your job. Solomon Dana: Yeah, Troy Robbins: Sell it. Solomon Dana: right, go and sell it. Goo and Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: good luck, so Troy Robbins: Yeah. Okay and the twelve fifty twelve uh twelve Randy Richards: Uh-huh. Twenty five Euros. Troy Robbins: Twenty five Euros, yeah. Randy Richards: Yeah, I think it's Troy Robbins: Twenty five Terry Kelley: It's Troy Robbins: Euros. Terry Kelley: maybe a little bit expensive. Randy Richards: It's cheap, yeah. No, I Troy Robbins: No, it's not so Solomon Dana: It Troy Robbins: expensive. Solomon Dana: should be Randy Richards: I'm Solomon Dana: fine. Randy Richards: not so happy about the fruit shape, you know. Solomon Dana: Wh really? It should be it should be fine, you know, actually. Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: S Terry Kelley: Maybe what you Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: can do a test. Put it outside, and if bees come, it's really fruit. Solomon Dana: I Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: I think I like the Terry Kelley: But don't Solomon Dana: the Terry Kelley: put Solomon Dana: colour Terry Kelley: sugar Solomon Dana: a Terry Kelley: in Solomon Dana: the Terry Kelley: it, Solomon Dana: colour Terry Kelley: it's Solomon Dana: are Terry Kelley: not Solomon Dana: very Terry Kelley: working. Solomon Dana: good, so actually so Randy Richards: No, the colours are uh it's perfect, yeah. Solomon Dana: It's perfect, and Randy Richards: True. Uh yeah, another thing is the logo is missing still. Solomon Dana: I p is Terry Kelley: Yeah, but Solomon Dana: th Terry Kelley: the colour, I think the colour Solomon Dana: y the Terry Kelley: is more is Solomon Dana: the yellow Terry Kelley: most important, Randy Richards: Uh Solomon Dana: ball thing that Terry Kelley: because I I don't think you have ever seen something like that before for a remote control. Randy Richards: Still that was one of the requirements we had. It's yeah but it I don't think it's such a problem just putting Solomon Dana: Uh Randy Richards: the logo somewhere. Solomon Dana: f like y we can we can put some uh double Terry Kelley: Yeah, but we Solomon Dana: R_ Terry Kelley: decided to have something yellow and red, for the costs. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: So maybe we can just integrate it on th on one side, Randy Richards: Mm. Terry Kelley: the double R_. Solomon Dana: Okay yeah, Randy Richards: Yeah. Solomon Dana: yeah. That's actually Troy Robbins: Mm. Solomon Dana: good idea, so Terry Kelley: So we have the logo, we have the colour, and we have the fashion in electronics, Troy Robbins: So we have to give Terry Kelley: so Troy Robbins: a Terry Kelley: we have the slogan too. Troy Robbins: So we have give him give it a cute name. Randy Richards: Cute Terry Kelley: Yeah Troy Robbins: Mush Terry Kelley: th Troy Robbins: mushroom Randy Richards: na Terry Kelley: no, it's Troy Robbins: controller. Terry Kelley: the it's the pineapple control Randy Richards: You cannot Terry Kelley: remote Randy Richards: say mushroom Terry Kelley: control. Randy Richards: because it's Solomon Dana: It's Randy Richards: not Terry Kelley: It's Randy Richards: the Solomon Dana: not Randy Richards: trend. Terry Kelley: a Solomon Dana: a Terry Kelley: pineapple Solomon Dana: mushroom. Terry Kelley: now, Randy Richards: It's not Terry Kelley: it Randy Richards: the Solomon Dana: It's Terry Kelley: has Randy Richards: trend. Solomon Dana: a Terry Kelley: changed. Solomon Dana: pineapple remote Terry Kelley: It's Solomon Dana: controls. Terry Kelley: a pineapple. Troy Robbins: Pa Terry Kelley: Pineapple. Troy Robbins: Pine apple. Solomon Dana: Yeah, pineapple remote remote Randy Richards: Yeah, but Solomon Dana: control. Randy Richards: just flying saucer, Terry Kelley: With cherry Randy Richards: or Terry Kelley: on top. Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: Oh, Randy Richards: I would Solomon Dana: that Randy Richards: say flying saucer. Solomon Dana: Oh unid uh Randy Richards: It's Solomon Dana: unidentified Randy Richards: more appropriate, Solomon Dana: remote Randy Richards: somehow. Solomon Dana: control, so Troy Robbins: Okay. Okay. Solomon Dana: That's that's pineapple remote control. I think it's fine. Randy Richards: Mm. Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: Will Solomon Dana: Yeah. Terry Kelley: you buy one? Solomon Dana: Yeah I will try I'll Terry Kelley: Try to. Troy Robbins: Twenty Terry Kelley: Okay Troy Robbins: five Solomon Dana: try. Terry Kelley: uh Troy Robbins: Euro. Solomon Dana: I can hel I will try versions so to see Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: how easy easy Troy Robbins: Yeah Solomon Dana: to manage Troy Robbins: you told Randy Richards you h you d you d you lost your control your Solomon Dana: Yeah I always Troy Robbins: T_V_ Solomon Dana: lose Troy Robbins: so Solomon Dana: my Yeah, so Troy Robbins: so you need to buy one. Solomon Dana: so i if it is a universal one I can use it with my T_V_, so Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: it would Randy Richards: Mm. Solomon Dana: be Terry Kelley: One thing I like is the shape, because you know it's not like the Troy Robbins: Traditional Terry Kelley: uh the Troy Robbins: one? Terry Kelley: remote controls you can Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: put in your pocket, on uh in Troy Robbins: So Terry Kelley: your jacket. Troy Robbins: this one and this one. What do you choose? Terry Kelley: I prefer the laser remote Solomon Dana: I Terry Kelley: control. Troy Robbins: What do you choose? Solomon Dana: think I would choose this one because Terry Kelley: No. Solomon Dana: of the colour. It's Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: it's will enlight your house, your home and your T_V_, so. Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: Yeah. Terry Kelley: Oh. Maybe next if we decide to do something we'd can put light inside. Solomon Dana: Yeah, yeah that would be Randy Richards: Yeah Solomon Dana: uh Randy Richards: but that's Solomon Dana: an idea. Randy Richards: going to be expensive, you know. Terry Kelley: Yeah. Randy Richards: We had some problems going Terry Kelley: I Randy Richards: to Terry Kelley: think Randy Richards: twelve Euros and Terry Kelley: it Randy Richards: uh I Terry Kelley: it Randy Richards: dunno. Terry Kelley: would be interesting to just to see if we can if people will buy this one, and maybe add some Randy Richards: Yeah, Terry Kelley: features Randy Richards: afterwards, Terry Kelley: to it Randy Richards: if Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: after Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: yeah. Randy Richards: if it's a new trend. Okay. Terry Kelley: So Solomon Dana: Yeah that's that fine. So we can celebrate now. That's our new product. Terry Kelley: Champagne, Randy Richards: We should celebrate. Terry Kelley: mister Baba. Solomon Dana: Yes. It's it's fine. It's I like it. Troy Robbins: So buy one. Solomon Dana: Next time. Well, I'll buy one here. Troy Robbins: Yeah. Terry Kelley: So Randy Richards: Mm. Terry Kelley: Okay, I will close this. Mm. Solomon Dana: Yeah. No? Terry Kelley: So I think we have finished Solomon Dana: Okay. Terry Kelley: the designing and the evaluation of our remote control Solomon Dana: Okay. Randy Richards: Yeah. Terry Kelley: and we have a nearly final product. Randy Richards: Our final prototype Solomon Dana: Final Randy Richards: which Solomon Dana: prototype, Terry Kelley: Final Solomon Dana: yeah, Terry Kelley: prototype, Solomon Dana: ye Terry Kelley: right. Randy Richards: yeah. Solomon Dana: yeah. Troy Robbins: Prototype, yeah. Terry Kelley: So, Troy Robbins: Okay. Terry Kelley: thank you very much. Solomon Dana: Okay. Troy Robbins: Okay. Solomon Dana: Okay. Terry Kelley: Very productive. Troy Robbins: Okay. Thanks. Solomon Dana: S so who is going to take the remote control?

Troy Robbins and Solomon Dana presented their prototype for the remote. The prototype was yellow and red and was shaped like a mushroom. The team then conducted a product evaluation of the prototype. Overall, the team found the prototype to be technologically innovative but had some issues with the prototype's appearance and its usability. The team decided that the prototype required further work. The team then discussed the production costs of the remote and what features they should retain or lose in order to maintain their target cost. In discussing the production costs, the team settled on what features they wanted in the remote, while staying within the boundaries of their budget, and decided it was not necessary to completely redesign their product. The team then engaged in a project evaluation in which the team discussed the process of creating their product.

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Michael Rios: Okay everybody is ready? Good morning again So. today we are going to have a f second meeting. Oh Michael, Mark Doi: Yep. Michael Rios: hi. You're late. You have a good reason for that? Mark Doi: Yes. Michael Rios: Very good. Okay, let's have a look to the agenda today. So, we are going to have a meeting about the functional design. Um so first before starting I w just going to uh to go quickly to through the minutes of previous meeting. So uh we we are not decided if w we should go for a universal or specific uh uh remote control, but I have new um new i inputs for about that topics. I goin I'm going to share with you. And uh basically we decided to um to uh go to individual actions for each of you uh so um Industrial Designer should wor was supposed to work on th on th on the working design. Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: You showed us you ar you you prepare Robert Hood: Yeah. Michael Rios: something for us? Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: The U_I_ guy also uh work on that, yeah, and for the mar Mark Doi: Mm. Michael Rios: our Marketing Expert should deliver some specs. Alright so so we are going to go through three of your individual presentations. But first I would like quickly to uh to decide of to give a name to the project. So, I just put d quickly Remo, but if you have any o other names that we co could decide for just to to keep something fun for our project we we should we could discuss quickly. Any ideas? Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: Uh the Powerstick Michael Rios: Powerstick, yeah. What else? What else? Tom Stupka: Uh. Mark Doi: Maybe a Spanish name Tom Stupka: Mm Mark Doi: would Tom Stupka: I Mark Doi: work Tom Stupka: was Mark Doi: well. Tom Stupka: thinking Mark Doi: Especially Tom Stupka: of Mark Doi: if we're selling Tom Stupka: the Mark Doi: into the U_S_ market becasue there's a lot of Spanish speakers there. Maybe something that sounds cool in English but sounds funny in Spanish. Tom Stupka: Mando. Mark Doi: Mando. What Michael Rios: Mango? Mark Doi: is that? Michael Rios: Mango? Tom Stupka: Mando. Michael Rios: Mando. M_A_? M_A_? Tom Stupka: A_N_ yeah D_O. Michael Rios: M_ D_O_. Mm, okay. Tom Stupka: It doesn't it doesn't sound Michael Rios: What does it mean? Tom Stupka: cool for Tom Stupka, but Michael Rios: Oh. Tom Stupka: maybe for a Spanish for I for Mark Doi: What does it mean in Spanish? Tom Stupka: Control. Mark Doi: Control. Michael Rios: Hmm. Mark Doi: Okay. Michael Rios: Nice. Mark Doi: 'Cause it also like in English it sounds like you know the man's tool you know because you know Tom Stupka: But Mark Doi: men Tom Stupka: mm, Mark Doi: like to have control Tom Stupka: yeah. Mark Doi: of the remote so it Tom Stupka: Mando Mark Doi: might Tom Stupka: sounds Latino. Mark Doi: The Mando. Michael Rios: Okay. So, let's go for Mando? Yeah? Robert Hood: Yeah, Michael Rios: No objection? Robert Hood: yeah. Mark Doi: Yeah that's. Michael Rios: Great. Mark Doi: And Michael Rios: So Mark Doi: we could have some like you d you could have the fonts you know special, so you have man in like in in uh in one o in one font and then the O_ as like Michael Rios: Okay, I think Mark Doi: Although Michael Rios: this Mark Doi: you don't Michael Rios: is Mark Doi: wanna cut uh cut women out of Michael Rios: Okay. Mark Doi: the uh potential buyers though, do you? So Robert Hood: Yeah they are the most T_V_ watcher. So we should be careful. Mark Doi: Yeah. Michael Rios: Okay, I think this is more a question of Tom Stupka: But yeah Mark Doi: Marketing. Michael Rios: of Tom Stupka: it Michael Rios: I Tom Stupka: uh Michael Rios: I think this is more a question of of look and feel. Something that should be addressed later. We should Tom Stupka: Yeah Michael Rios: we should go to Tom Stupka: because Michael Rios: other Tom Stupka: if the product Michael Rios: for the other topics. Tom Stupka: will be international Mark Doi: Well that's the thing. We need to know who we're selling it to before we can really decide on a Michael Rios: Yeah okay, so Mark Doi: Um. Michael Rios: let's stick f to Man Mando for the name and we'll see for the for the look and feel later. So let's go for the three presentations right now. So, who want to start? Tom Stupka: Maybe Michael Rios: So Tom Stupka: maybe Michael Rios: maybe Tom Stupka: I Michael Rios: we Tom Stupka: should Michael Rios: could Tom Stupka: uh start. Michael Rios: start with the market, yeah. Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mm. Okay. Michael Rios: Okay so I have your slides somewhere? Tom Stupka: Yeah. Should be in participant four. Michael Rios: Participant four. Tom Stupka: Yeah, Michael Rios: This one? Tom Stupka: yeah. Tom Stupka: Uh. Michael Rios: S that's coming. Uh Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: okay. Great. Tom Stupka: Okay so yeah will I will give a brief outline about what I what I prepared for this meeting. Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Tom Stupka: For the functional requirements and especially for the for the user requirements. I prepare a marketing report and we have to find the weaknesses and and the the improvements we could do to the current remote controls. And also I di I did a study with for the incorporation of new technologies it seems that the remote controls have been have remained the same for the last five, ten years. There is no no significant difference between the the b the first new controls and Michael Rios: Okay. Tom Stupka: Yeah. Michael Rios: Sh next slide? Okay. Tom Stupka: Yeah. Well more most of the people think that remote controls are ugly, thoroughly. So and they they admit that the the they should uh s they would uh spend more money in a fancier remote control, which is which is good and it's interesting point. Also the people are worried about about the R_S_I_ disease, which is if you repeat the sa the same movement, which is not a with a not very appropriate device, you you will have problems whe when you will get old. So s people are uh are worried about the the shape of the of the remote control. They are also they get angry very often because they lost the remote control very often, so I think it would be a good point to to l to to find a a solution to any beep any alarm or something incorporated to with the remote control every time it it get lost. Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Tom Stupka: And also I found that young people the the younger people are the more interested they are in incorporating new technologies in the in the remote control. Michael Rios: Okay. Tom Stupka: So in my opinion the Mando this Mando shouldn't be very small because the smaller it is, the more like the the liklier it is to get lost. Liklier or more likely? Mark Doi: More likely. Tom Stupka: likely. Okay. Uh people also complain because they they they all have the same size of the buttons for buttons who w which are not very use like f uh memorising channels or or this kind of actions which are not very often but they they shouldn't they shouldn't have the same importance in the in the uh in the remote cont in the remote control. Also the z the design should fit the hand shape. So it may be interesting to to think in a in both prototypes, for right and left handed people. Mark Doi: Well th the on the thing is though, most remote controls are used by more than one person. So unless you're kind of targeting single people you know you're gonna maybe Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: cut out some a lot of your market. Tom Stupka: I dunno I th Anyway I think it could be int interesting to to release some a a small fraction of Robert Hood: Well Tom Stupka: of Robert Hood: maybe Tom Stupka: this Robert Hood: it could be a Tom Stupka: remote Robert Hood: universal Tom Stupka: controls. Robert Hood: design. Tom Stupka: Sorry? Robert Hood: A universal design, which is which is good for both the hands. Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: Still Robert Hood: Yeah? Mark Doi: shaped for yeah for your hand but not for a particular Robert Hood: That's right, Mark Doi: hand, Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: right? Robert Hood: whether it's left hand or right hand, but but don't you think that the two points are clashing, one thing you are saying design should fit the hand shape and it should not be very small? Tom Stupka: Sorry? Robert Hood: The first and the third point, they are clashing. Mark Doi: Well it can still be a, you can still extend past Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: the hand. Michael Rios: Yeah. Robert Hood: Okay. Tom Stupka: Like Mark Doi: Uh. Tom Stupka: uh Robert Hood: So fitting the hand doesn't mean much then. Mark Doi: Well it means like, this remote here is kind of is very thin and long so instead Robert Hood: Mm-hmm Mark Doi: of having Robert Hood: mm-hmm. Mark Doi: you know you might have it kind of Tom Stupka: Yeah, Mark Doi: a Tom Stupka: like Mark Doi: bit bigger or, you know, with maybe some some Robert Hood: Mm-hmm Mark Doi: finger Robert Hood: mm-hmm Mark Doi: molds Robert Hood: mm-hmm. Mark Doi: or something. Robert Hood: So it means design should be similar to the traditional ones? Little sleek, longer? Tom Stupka: No no Robert Hood: And Tom Stupka: I was Robert Hood: it should Tom Stupka: thinking Robert Hood: fit Tom Stupka: of Robert Hood: the Tom Stupka: so Robert Hood: hand. Tom Stupka: like Michael Rios: Something Tom Stupka: something Michael Rios: with the shape of the palm? Tom Stupka: yeah. Robert Hood: Mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm. Mark Doi: Some Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: finger grips maybe. You could even have some buttons like you know Michael Rios: On Tom Stupka: Yeah Michael Rios: the sides. Tom Stupka: yeah. Mark Doi: on Tom Stupka: It Mark Doi: the sides Tom Stupka: sh it shouldn't Mark Doi: and everything, Tom Stupka: it shouldn't Mark Doi: but Tom Stupka: be symmetric symmetrical. Robert Hood: Mm-hm Tom Stupka: Not Robert Hood: mm-hmm Tom Stupka: anymore. Robert Hood: mm-hmm. Tom Stupka: That's what yeah. Michael Rios: And then finally Tom Stupka: And finally, the incorporation of a L_C_D_ or a speech recognition system in the remote control could also be interesting, but I don't know if the budget would Mark Doi: Yeah. Tom Stupka: be large Michael Rios: Yeah. Tom Stupka: enough. Michael Rios: First I'm just wondering about the L_C_D_ stuff Tom Stupka: But Michael Rios: because Tom Stupka: most of Michael Rios: uh Tom Stupka: yeah Michael Rios: because Tom Stupka: most of the young people to thirty to thirty years old were really interested in this kind of technology. Michael Rios: Yeah, so maybe it's a good time for Tom Stupka to uh to bring you to some new uh new informations. We had the new requirements from the so uh from the head offices of the company, and so they wanted so they want to um they would like to be restricted to T_V_. Mark Doi: Yeah. Michael Rios: Okay, I dunno if you had this information already. Mark Doi: No. Michael Rios: No, so they want us to restrict the remote control to T_V_ only because of time limitations. Um they want also Tom Stupka: Actually Michael Rios: uh Tom Stupka: this marketing report is restricted to T_V_ remote controls. Michael Rios: Excellent. So we have also to focus more on the internet aspects because well well te teletext is outdated now and uh finally, it should be clear that the corporate image, that means colours and logos of the co our company should be clearly inde identified in the product. So Mark Doi: I was still uh I was still working on this uh twenty five Euro price point because I think actually having looked at some of the remotes out there, this is quite a low uh price if if we're maybe I can get to this in my presentation though, but um Michael Rios: Yeah yeah. Mark Doi: yeah. Michael Rios: Sure sure. So maybe we can jump to your presentations, Mark Doi: Yep. Michael Rios: right Mark Doi: Okay. Michael Rios: now. Okay so let's keep in mind about tha that that this last point about L_C_D_ and speech uh Mark Doi: Yeah. I Michael Rios: reco Mark Doi: think even even if it was within budget do a speech reco rec system it might be a bit difficult because if you think if you're watching T_V_ you're gonna have a lot of this uh background noise from the T_V_ which might interfere with the Michael Rios: Sorry, what is your? Mark Doi: Uh participant three. You might have some background noise from the T_V_ which will make the speech recognition much uh Tom Stupka: Yeah but you should Mark Doi: harder, Tom Stupka: be able to Mark Doi: so. Tom Stupka: activate or disactivate, so yeah Mark Doi: Oh you press Tom Stupka: yeah. Mark Doi: a press a button to talk, and the Tom Stupka: Yeah Mark Doi: the T_V_ Tom Stupka: uh channel Mark Doi: the T_V_ Tom Stupka: fifty. Mark Doi: sound turns off. Tom Stupka: Yeah. Robert Hood: No it could be command control kind of thing. It requir recognises particular sequence and then it gets activated. Means you say you should say like does that, remote control being on or be on kind of thing, and then remote control comes in the picture for the speech recognition. Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: Because this kind of thing means speech is there from the T_V_ also. Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: So there should be something command controlled, you start Mark Doi: Mm. Robert Hood: and then you stop. Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: It's like V_I_ editor, you are having two modes similarly. Otherwise it's just lying idle. Michael Rios: Okay Michael. Mark Doi: Okay, so, could I describe the mouse maybe be Michael Rios: Sorry? Mark Doi: easier to could I use the mouse, or Michael Rios: Um yeah. Mark Doi: Mm. Thanks. Okay. Michael Rios: The wheel doesn't work. Mark Doi: Great. Okay so um while uh researching this this topic I first of all just thought of a couple of things that I would like to see in a remote, and just uh looked to see if they're actually available in any current remotes, and then also searched for which are the top-rated uh remote controls on Epinions dot com, which is a a you know a a customer um written basically review site. So um there's a pretty wide range of uh remote controls these days and and uh this remote control on the right here is is one of the more extravagant, but it's not really it's by no means uh mm you know on it's own in being so expensive. There are a lot of expensive remote controls out there. Michael Rios: Looks like a P_D_A_? Mark Doi: So yeah it doe it's well basically all the functions uh are controlled through through the L_C_D_ screen except for the really really kind of main functions, which have a couple of of their own buttons. Um and if you look at a lot of the universal remotes out um on the market, I know we're working on television remote, but a lot of the universal remotes out there have uh have these L_C_D_ screens which kind of helps when you're using multiple uh devices I suppose because you can have multiple kind of functions d different functions on the screen at different times. But um the thing that I find most interesting about this remote control, and it's kind of difficult to uh to see in the slide, but it has a scroll wheel on it, which is kind of like uh a mouse scroll wheel, which I think is it's a really kind of important design aspect um is it's 'Cause the thing is what a what we the presen this presentation we had is what we want the remote control to actually do. And obviously the the simplest thing that a remote control does is it just change Robert Hood: Change Mark Doi: the Robert Hood: the channels. Mark Doi: change the channel. Robert Hood: Yeah. Mark Doi: Now um uh the I think that a scroll wheel is actually pretty a pretty handy way of of changing the channel. 'Cause I know when I um when I use the remote to change the channel I very rarely use the numbers on the on the Robert Hood: Mmm-hmm Mark Doi: pad. I usually Robert Hood: mm-hmm. Mark Doi: use the up and down Robert Hood: Yeah yeah. Mark Doi: a special button to enter a two-digit number, and then two numbers, so that's just uh it's annoying. So I think a scroll wheel is is quite handy. Now um the the scroll wheel is is much more useful if you have an L_C_D_ screen, and this brings us to the the point you were mentioning before about the internet uh capability. Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: One possibility, if we now we need to still talk about the price point because obviously a lot of this stuff can't be done for twenty five Eu uh Euro, but one possibility is to download program information into the L_C_D_ screen so that instead of actually saying I want to I want to go to channel thirty seven because I know this programme's on, you know, often you don't know what ch what channel it's on, or you don't know what's on. If you have a list of of programs on your L_C_D_ screen you just scroll to that program rather than to a channel. So if you think about it's kind of like a you know in mobile phones now you don't use you don't remember people's phone number, you remember their name and you go find that name and ring it. So this would be pretty kind of a handy thing to have, but um we we really need t to discuss the price. So, I mean there are there are uh cheaper this is another multi kinda purpose remote control where it's it's it's very simple, there's only a few buttons, but al each of those buttons does something different in a different context. So this is something else we might wanna consider, is really kind of limiting the number of buttons, because this is the top rating uh universal remote control on on Epinions. It it's really uh maybe worth thinking about limiting the number of buttons as much as as possible um because really I think people want to be able to find the button they're looking for without even looking at the remote control. And was saying before about having different size buttons for different you know frequently used uh tasks, but I think also you know the location and and shape of the buttons is important, but also the number of buttons. So if you have too many buttons it it it increases the the difficulty of finding Robert Hood: But Mark Doi: the one Robert Hood: there Mark Doi: you Robert Hood: is Mark Doi: want. Robert Hood: one Mark Doi: So Robert Hood: problem then the user has to understand each of that functionality. Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: Yeah well Robert Hood: Because Mark Doi: we w Robert Hood: the same button is doing too many things. Mark Doi: Yeah well we will have a bit of a simpler uh task in that we're only doing uh a television remote control. Um I think maybe one option is to have you know a little flip-open um door that uh that you have hidden most of the time, but contains the extra buttons like, say, the number buttons for instance. Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: Um I I would if I had my perfect remote control, I'd probably just have no numbers at all on it because Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: they're just in the way. They don't really do anything. Maybe you know I although I do also find flip-open doors a bit of a pain because sometimes they can break off or or whatever, but maybe a door that you can you can permanantly remove or permanantly Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: have on would be good. Um but I think definitely you need to to keep the buttons down to a minimum, but not not let that kind of interfere with the functionality of of the device. Um Tom Stupka: H I think I think that the tr the transition to this to this new remote control shouldn't be very very abrupt very hard because w if people see a remo see the see a remote control without numbers mm they will think it's very difficult to learn very difficult to Robert Hood: It does Tom Stupka: very Robert Hood: sampling Tom Stupka: different Robert Hood: out of Tom Stupka: build very Robert Hood: the. Tom Stupka: different to Mark Doi: Well I guess Tom Stupka: the traditional Mark Doi: that depends on how you market it. If you if you have the right advertisement showing how how Tom Stupka: If Mark Doi: how easy Tom Stupka: y Mark Doi: it is and how you can, you know, navigate to a program without the numbers, then people might say that looks pretty easy. Michael Rios: Okay, Mark Doi: So, Michael Rios: can Mark Doi: but Michael Rios: you continue, Mark Doi: yep. Michael Rios: please Mi? Mark Doi: Um okay, so, I think um one of the really kind of useful things you can do with with internet connectivity would be to have this a programme driven interface rather than the channel number. So if we can have a higher priced uh remote control I think that would really be worth uh something that would be worth implementing. Um mm there's the L_C_D_ screen, um which maybe maybe is too expensive, um but I think also at the scroll wheel, I haven't mentioned it here, the scroll wheel could be used without an L_C_D_ screen, just for changing channel numbers easily. I think even that, I mean, that would be a fairly cheap thing, compared to an L_C_D_ screen, Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: to implement, um but I think that would be quite useful as well. And the other thing, you say we need to we need to keep it just television, but I think one maybe one option, since this is supposed to be a kind of a fashionable device, is you know there's a certain kind of cool or wow factor that you can kind of you can have with technology, and maybe we wanna make it something that's extensible to do other tasks. Say you have like um a little another little kind of base unit that can also receive signals as well as the television where you can, say uh, change the lighting in the room. You know that would be something maybe you could sell as an extra, so that it doesn't have to be part of the initial development, but, you know, later on you could you can you know you also, selling the potential of the device. Then you say potentially you can then do other cool stuff like change the lights, I dunno, close the windows, whatever, turn the heating on, and um, I think that's something we may need to have as as at least as an optional extra to to kinda make our product Michael Rios: Okay. Mark Doi: cool, since we say we're putting the fashion in electronics. Michael Rios: Okay. Okay, thanks. Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: you Robert Hood: So Michael Rios: want to go? Robert Hood: yeah. So most of the things which we are discussing about is speech recognition uh, that means Michael Rios: This Robert Hood: on Michael Rios: one? Robert Hood: my own I yeah, it should be. Michael Rios: Great. No, not that one. you are two. Robert Hood: Two. Michael Rios: Alright. Robert Hood: Okay so the working design is uh user i interface could be of two types, one is the usual press buttons which are there so that the user feels that he is knoing doing some he is knowing about that technology. So he is pretty comfortable if he wants to get this, and on top of that there there could be a speech recognition technology also being sitting on the on the remote. So the old kind of users who don't want to have any changes, it can it can be useful for them, and the new users, as uh our Marketing Expert was saying, they can use the new gizmo which is speech recognition kind of thing. Michael Rios: Okay, sorry to interrupt you, but we have seen before that there is a new way of interacting that use wheel. Robert Hood: That's right. So anyway, that didn't come into my mind, Michael Rios: Okay. Robert Hood: so th that is a possibility. These could be other kind of interfaces. Means we can have, depending on the cost, how much we can afford, we can have different kind of interfaces. So spe buttons are something which is very everybody is familiar with. So if you go to the market and you say that buttons are there the people know what it is, Michael Rios: Mm-hmm. Robert Hood: and on top of that if we are having extra functionality people are willing to shell that twenty-five Euros money which we are thinking. Otherwise we are just like others in the market. So anyway that is the first, user interface could be of more than one type, and uh yeah that means we can do the on-line changes which which cannot be done now actually. So apart from the speech, we can have the scroll kind of thing with the buttons. Now for buttons, normal requirements like bit coding and all those things are required. And for voice, limited vocabulary automatic speech recognition system is required and we require a microphone also to be sitting there on the remote. Michael Rios: Yeah. That increases the the cost also. Robert Hood: Uh that's right. But uh means we have to see how much what kind of microphones and stuff like that. Michael Rios: Do you think that performance of such systems are enough to to target well of such technologies is enough? Robert Hood: Uh yes, if it is limited vocabulary usually it's enough. Michael Rios: Okay. Robert Hood: Yeah we we can uh target, means we can target ninety five percent accuracy or somewhere ninety Michael Rios: Well Robert Hood: seven Michael Rios: wh Robert Hood: perc Michael Rios: uh I imagine Mark Doi: Hmm. Michael Rios: also that the microphone will be an ambiance um a um an ambience microphones Robert Hood: That's Michael Rios: because Robert Hood: right. Michael Rios: you are not going to speak into Robert Hood: No Michael Rios: into Robert Hood: it Michael Rios: th Robert Hood: it could Michael Rios: into Robert Hood: be Michael Rios: the remote Robert Hood: little Michael Rios: control. Robert Hood: d yeah Michael Rios: So Robert Hood: it Michael Rios: it Robert Hood: could Michael Rios: could Robert Hood: be Michael Rios: be s a few centimetres. Robert Hood: That's right. Mark Doi: Well Robert Hood: That's Mark Doi: one Robert Hood: right. Mark Doi: one other thing that that speech recognition could really blow out the price for is uh when you want to sell into other markets, though, because, I'm not sure exactly where we're gonna sell this, but I presume it's not gonna just be English speaking countries. Michael Rios: Yeah. Mark Doi: So Robert Hood: Mm-hmm Mark Doi: then you have Robert Hood: mm-hmm. Mark Doi: to s you know, you have to train models for Robert Hood: Uh it's more like, means there are different speech technologies which are existing so D_T_W_ could be kind of which is the easiest. So you have to store some templates on the on the on the chip itself, and it's just dynamic time warping where you try to find out what it is, instead of having Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: a model which has to Michael Rios: Okay. Robert Hood: be trained and being a micro-controller. Michael Rios: Okay we shou we should discuss this Robert Hood: Yeah, Michael Rios: la later Robert Hood: that's right. Michael Rios: after after after this Robert Hood: Yeah. Michael Rios: this uh slide. Robert Hood: So Michael Rios: This Robert Hood: we Michael Rios: is Robert Hood: can Michael Rios: a this is a this is a a very important uh issue Robert Hood: That's Michael Rios: in Robert Hood: right. Michael Rios: discussion. Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: Okay, next. Robert Hood: Yep. Michael Rios: Uh that finished? Robert Hood: No no. Components. Michael Rios: No? Components? Robert Hood: Yeah. So, will you go to the next slide? Michael Rios: Yes sure. Robert Hood: Yeah so this is the design which we are thinking so. We are having a power button and the switch, which is not much, and then we are having the which is to indicate whether the power is on or not. And then there are two kind of things which can be so one is the button interface which has not been shown because because of lack of time. So we could not put that. So now where the A_S_R_ decoder is sitting, similarly there are different kind of interfaces which could be there. there, and then there could be another scroll button scroll scroller, and then there could be buttons, and all of them they will just do the decoding and put it in the math put it in the proper message format. And then there is there is the chip which is sitting, the green one, and it converts it into bit codes, and that bit codes are sent by the infrared device to the receiver. Michael Rios: Okay. Robert Hood: So this is the easiest design the there could be. So th an A_S_R_ decoder we can have things in. To have different technologies. So this was the my personal preference was that we can have A_S_R_ sitting there on the remote control. Mark Doi: You Robert Hood: Yeah. Mark Doi: know I guess you could actually train the remote control as you're using it by saying you know turn volume up, and you press the uh press the button like uh s people teach sign language to kids f well, Robert Hood: Yeah but Mark Doi: by Robert Hood: uh Mark Doi: speaking and Robert Hood: as soon Mark Doi: doing Robert Hood: as you try to put the microchip kind of thing or something the price will go up. Mark Doi: Yeah. Robert Hood: So these Michael Rios: Okay. Robert Hood: are the slight problems. Michael Rios: So your your opinion is that we should go for special Robert Hood: Because Michael Rios: condition technologies? Robert Hood: yeah the reason is that if we go into the market means though I don't have much idea, but as he the uh Marketing Expert presentation Tom Stupka: I'm sure Robert Hood: was Tom Stupka: if you can sell a a speech recognition remote control for twenty five Euros everyo everyone will s will buy it. Robert Hood: So if Mark Doi: Actually Robert Hood: we go Mark Doi: I'm Robert Hood: with Mark Doi: not Robert Hood: just Mark Doi: so sure Robert Hood: the Tom Stupka: I'm Mark Doi: because Tom Stupka: sure. Mark Doi: I'm the you know if I was using a remote control to, say, turn the volume up because I can't hear it very well, I don't really want to you know drown out what people are saying by talking you know when I'm when I'm instead of pressing up on on a remote control. You know if there's some there's some dialogue all of a sudden that I can't hear, Michael Rios: Yeah. Mark Doi: I'm trying to actually find out what's being said, so maybe speech recognition gets in the way more than it helps. Michael Rios: Okay so Tom Stupka: Yeah but you know the the average frequency of pushing buttons, it's about Mark Doi: Well it depends if it's a remote control Tom Stupka: it's about Mark Doi: th Tom Stupka: eighty eighty eighty pushes per hour, or something like that. Mark Doi: Maybe if the remote control is something that y you don't actually have to pick up anymore, that would be a a useful feature of the speech recogntion. If you can Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: leave it sitting Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: on the table and Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: you don't actually have Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: to find Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: it, then Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Mark Doi: that could be. Michael Rios: have to take some deci decisions right now. Robert Hood: Alright. Michael Rios: Um so if I if I kind of summarise everything we've de we we said. We are targeting T_V_. We need we need to have um um remote control which is fanc fancy, which is uh which is easy to to hand not too small, not too big. Um we have Tom Stupka: With a good shape for Michael Rios: or Tom Stupka: the Michael Rios: good shape, yes. We should bring new technologies for young peoples, and uh as we have uh also requirements to to use uh to to push thr toward the internet. Maybe this is something we can stick to it. And um also, a very interesting things I I I've seen on on on the one of the comp o our competitor is this wheel that we can use to navigate. So so my feeling is that re regarding costs budget we have an an an target price, it's not possible to go s to go to L_C_D_ and also to go to automatic speech recognition technologies. Uh first m m why not to go to L_C_D_. Because um in fact as we are targeting uh T_V_ in fact we can use T_V_ screen as a screen to feedback to to give some feedback informations about what Mark Doi: Well it depends Michael Rios: we could Mark Doi: though Michael Rios: have. Mark Doi: well it depends. If we we don't unless we have some input some video input to the T_V_ or we have control over the T_V_ then we can't actually display that. Like if we if we produce the T_V_s then then yeah we can put you know menus up up there, but otherwise we need to actually have some kind of something sitting in between the video signal and the and the T_V_ to superimpose those those menus. So that's an extra Michael Rios: Yeah that's right. Don Mark Doi: cost. Michael Rios: don't you ha don't we have contacts with uh people on T_V_ or or well systems that exist that we Mark Doi: Well this is Michael Rios: can use? Mark Doi: this is another que we still haven't really defined the remote. Are we still you say we're focusing on T_V_, but is it still a kind of like a universal remote in that it's a replacement remote control, or Michael Rios: Yeah. Mark Doi: is this something for our own line of of televisions? 'Cause that really makes a big difference. 'Cause even if we have contacts we can't really produce a remote control that can bring up menus on other other companies' T_V_s. It's just there are too many T_V_s out there. Michael Rios: Yeah. Mark Doi: It's it's not really Michael Rios: That's Mark Doi: gonna Michael Rios: good point. What's what cou what could be the cost of uh well, could we fit the the targets uh in terms of cost uh if we go s to L_C_D_ on the remote control? Mark Doi: For twenty five Euro? Michael Rios: Yeah. Robert Hood: It's Mark Doi: I think Robert Hood: not Mark Doi: it's Robert Hood: possible. Mark Doi: impossible. Robert Hood: It's impossible. Mark Doi: But Tom Stupka: Yeah. Mark Doi: but I dunno, I think um it would be good to know if there is any leverage in that any leeway in that um that twenty five Euro because for twenty five Euro I think all we can really do is provide a very basic remote control, and that seems to be kind of against the philosophy of our company which is you know putting the fashion into electronics. So I would I would like to know if there's any chance of of increasing the uh Tom Stupka: Uh Mark Doi: of increasing the unit price. Tom Stupka: What would Michael Rios: So Tom Stupka: be Michael Rios: you mean yo you mean we we should target something maybe which is which would be more expensive Mark Doi: Yeah. Michael Rios: but re really fancy in Mark Doi: Yeah. Michael Rios: terms to um in terms to had to have really an added value? Mark Doi: Yeah because Michael Rios: Okay, Mark Doi: yeah. Michael Rios: so regarding the automatic Tom Stupka: Wha Michael Rios: speech recognition, I think Tom Stupka: but Michael Rios: this is Tom Stupka: what would be one question, what would be the goal of putting an L_C_D_ in a remote control? Mark Doi: Well Tom Stupka: What Mark Doi: th Tom Stupka: what kind of information? Mark Doi: 'Cause you can have things like the programme name instead of the channel numbers, like Tom Stupka: Yeah Mark Doi: an interactive Tom Stupka: but mo Mark Doi: programme Tom Stupka: most of the Mark Doi: guide. Tom Stupka: T_V_s nowadays Michael Rios: They Tom Stupka: show Michael Rios: have tele Tom Stupka: the Michael Rios: teletext. Tom Stupka: show the Michael Rios: Well, because they have teletext Tom Stupka: the n Michael Rios: on it. Th th you have a teletext sin signal that you can that you can uh Tom Stupka: Yeah Michael Rios: that you Tom Stupka: but Michael Rios: can get thr Tom Stupka: yeah Michael Rios: through Tom Stupka: most Michael Rios: the channel. Tom Stupka: of the T_V_s have teletext nowadays. Michael Rios: They have t most of them have Tom Stupka: Yeah. Michael Rios: teletext, but we want to get rid well one of our requirements is to uh to move to teletext to uh to the use of internet. So to to uh Mark Doi: You can get a lot more information Michael Rios: to browse more easily Mark Doi: on Michael Rios: the teletext. Mark Doi: it. Michael Rios: For instance through uh through your remote control. Tom Stupka: So what would what would appear in the in the L_C_D_? Mark Doi: So you could have the name of the programme, you could have um Michael Rios: The ti Mark Doi: the start time Michael Rios: the start Mark Doi: you know Michael Rios: time, Mark Doi: where it's Michael Rios: all Mark Doi: up Michael Rios: the Mark Doi: to. Michael Rios: p all the programmes you could have uh Mark Doi: You could have a l even Michael Rios: o Mark Doi: a little image of you know the c Tom Stupka: Okay. Mark Doi: you know the the m the main actors or something so you can quickly just kind of even without Michael Rios: Well Mark Doi: reading Michael Rios: I don't know if this information is available from teletext, also. Mark Doi: Well no, but there are the electronic programme guides out Robert Hood: Are Mark Doi: there. They may not have pictures, but maybe they do. There's dependi it also Michael Rios: Well because Mark Doi: depends on the country. Michael Rios: for the same reason that we cannot uh informations on the T_V_. We c we couldn't grab information information which is not there. Mark Doi: No but I mean with the internet you have flexibility of where you get your information from. So it may be possible that there are Michael Rios: So Mark Doi: people out there providing that. Michael Rios: so that mean Tom Stupka: But Michael Rios: w Mark Doi: Uh. Michael Rios: w we need an in an extra internet connection to use the remote control, if you want to browse, Tom Stupka: Yeah. Michael Rios: in addition to the T_V_, or uh or it should be a special T_V_ connected Mark Doi: Well Michael Rios: to Mark Doi: I I think if we're gonna I think we would definitely need the internet connection because even with y I don't think you could even get teletext information from the T_V_ onto the remote control, especially if we don't control the T_V_. I dunno. We need to find that out. Michael Rios: Okay. We need to close the meeting. Um so Robert Hood: But just a small thing, what Michael Rios: Very Robert Hood: kind Michael Rios: quickly. Robert Hood: of market we are targeting? Is it that we are targeting the replacement remote market, or what? So the remote has gone bad and the person wants to buy a new remote or because the cost of L_C_D_ thing could be as high as the T_V_ itself. That is very Michael Rios: No. Robert Hood: important. Mark Doi: Mm. If Michael Rios: Yeah, Mark Doi: it's a really small T_V_ Michael Rios: well Mark Doi: maybe. Michael Rios: people go to buy another remote control when they broke Robert Hood: Broke. Michael Rios: n Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: broke Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: their, and they want to go t for universal Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: one, and Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: they take the fanciest they can Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: have. Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: So this is that we z that that we should target. So the com the um the uh the committment is the following, we don't go for speech recognition technology. Robert Hood: Mm-hmm. Michael Rios: The L_C_D_ is still on disc is still open to discussion. It is up to you to go through this um uh this way and to to report report Tom Stupka back next meeting. So Tom Stupka: I think that the speech recognition technology would Robert Hood: It's Tom Stupka: be cheaper Robert Hood: it's cheaper Tom Stupka: the Robert Hood: as compared Tom Stupka: than Robert Hood: to Tom Stupka: the Robert Hood: the L_C_D_. Tom Stupka: L_C_D_. Michael Rios: Yeah, but not sure. Maybe it's cheaper, but we have no Tom Stupka: Because with the L_C_D_ you need more requirements. You need a internet connection. You need m more things. But for the speech Mark Doi: Well Tom Stupka: recognition Mark Doi: the thing Tom Stupka: you Mark Doi: is Tom Stupka: you Mark Doi: I think Tom Stupka: don't need Mark Doi: I Tom Stupka: anything. Mark Doi: think the type of peop Tom Stupka: channel fifty, and that's it. Mark Doi: I think the type of people that are gonna want to buy a very stylish rem r remote control with lots of new technologies are the kinda people that are gonna have you know a wireless internet connection maybe, or a Tom Stupka: But then Mark Doi: you know. Tom Stupka: we should move to another target b because Robert Hood: Means Tom Stupka: at twenty Robert Hood: th Tom Stupka: five Robert Hood: yeah Tom Stupka: Dollars, Mark Doi: Well this Tom Stupka: it's Mark Doi: is what Robert Hood: twenty Mark Doi: we need Robert Hood: five Mark Doi: to find Robert Hood: Euros Mark Doi: out. Can Robert Hood: is Mark Doi: we Robert Hood: yeah, Mark Doi: can Robert Hood: that's Mark Doi: we Robert Hood: right. Mark Doi: increase the the price point of this remote control? 'Cause otherwise we need Michael Rios: Okay this is this is an open question for you. Yeah. This is uh up to you to tell us. But I'm definitely not keen on Tom Stupka: To move to another target? Michael Rios: to to no no no, I'm no I'm definit definitely not keen on going to speech recognition technologies. I'm not confident enough. I'm not sure that that we'll have a product really that work. I uh that work Mark Doi: It's kind of hard to guarantee Michael Rios: It's Mark Doi: that Michael Rios: real Mark Doi: you're gonna Michael Rios: yeah. How to guarantee such performances is really hard. Tom Stupka: the expert uh said ninety five percent. Mark Doi: Ninety Michael Rios: Well this Mark Doi: five Michael Rios: is still Mark Doi: percent is not good enough Michael Rios: is Mark Doi: though. Michael Rios: is very bad. So, this is the end of this discussion. Next meeting uh here are the task you have to work on. Um so you have to work on the component uh concept. Robert Hood: Okay. Michael Rios: Uh you have to work on user interface, and you have to go through a trend watching. Okay. So the question is still open about the L_C_D_ thing. Um uh we I hope that next meeting we will uh we'll take some um decision that direction. Thanks. Mark Doi: Yep. Michael Rios: Bye.

Michael Rios opens the meeting stating that they will address the functional design of the remote and saying they are still undecided about whether it should be universal or specific. He suggests they name the project and they come up with "mando", meaning "control" in Spanish. Tom Stupka presents some research done on user opinions of remotes. He suggests the use of using voice recognition or an LCD, which they discuss despite concerns about budget limitation. Robert Hood presents, showing examples of existing products and suggesting they add a scroll wheel for channel-changing. He says Internet capability might be necessary for an LCD and then brings up button size, suggesting having a flip-open door with extra buttons under it. They discuss voice recognition again, and then the interface specialist presents. He suggests they have two types of user interfaces and brings up that voice recognition would increase production price. They talk about the budget limitations on features and then Michael Rios summarizes decisios made and closes the meeting by teeling each group member what he should work on.

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John Alvine: Now what. Joseph Luke: 'Kay, hello everybody. Uh, I guess you all know what is it about, you all received the email, I guess. Uh, we are actually doing this meeting to start a new project which is about designing a remote control. So I'm going to be Joseph Luke of this uh project. And uh so I'm present myself. I'm Fabien Cardinaux and uh I I guess you can present yourself. So I dunno, you can starts. John Alvine: Okay, so my name is. You can call Donald Schmidt Petre, or Peter if you like. I don't care. Joseph Luke: Okay. Donald Schmidt: Uh my name's Bob Joseph Luke: And Donald Schmidt: Mor. Joseph Luke: you are? In the project? John Alvine: Uh, Donald Schmidt: Oh, sorry. John Alvine: in the project I'm supposed to be the technic. Donald Schmidt: 'Kay. So my name's Bob Morris. I'm Donald Schmidt for this project. John Alvine: Bob, Donald Schmidt: Bob John Alvine: okay. Donald Schmidt: yeah. Edmund Huitink: My name is Hamed Getabdar, uh I'm going to be Interface Designer in this project. John Alvine: Okay. Joseph Luke: So, uh, so today we are doing a short meeting to present the project, so um We are gooding we are going to present the tool we are we are going to use during all this project. We are talking about the project plan, and we are going to to discuss about st our first ideas and so on, and, yeah. So we have around twenty five minutes to do this meeting. Um. So what is the goal of this project? Is to design a new remote control. So it should be, of course, new and original, and um it should be trendy, and user friendly. That mean it's a very challenging project, and uh uh. So w it's we will try to do our best, and hopefully come with something very new and that people want to buy. So, um So what's uh what are we going to do during this all this project? So it's more like we are going to do inv individual work all in o in o our specialities and we are going to meet each other quite often to discuss and to find a good way. Um. Joseph Luke: Yeah and everything is will be like this. Um so now we are going to to get used t to to the tools we are going to use all during all this project. So we can try to use uh the whiteboard here. So John Alvine: Okay. Joseph Luke: uh. For example we can try to write what is our our favourite animal and write the f our favourite characteristics about it. Mm. Joseph Luke: Uh. So uh Joseph Luke: So I will ask you all to do the same. John Alvine: Okay. Joseph Luke: Just to get used to the whiteboard. John Alvine: So probably I would try to try to draw the animal. Well sh should I draw the picture of the animal? I I th Joseph Luke: Yeah, John Alvine: I Joseph Luke: yeah, Donald Schmidt: Yeah Joseph Luke: you John Alvine: think Joseph Luke: can John Alvine: I Donald Schmidt: go John Alvine: should. Joseph Luke: draw Donald Schmidt: ahead. Joseph Luke: the picture, of course. John Alvine: Okay, so. Um. Okay, American, um. Um. use the bird. So I tried to sketch it out. I had to first uh write it down because I am not absolutely sure if I can draw it, but ah. Can you recognise it as a bird? Okay Donald Schmidt: Okay, John Alvine: it's your turn to Donald Schmidt: okay. Donald Schmidt: So I think my favourite animal would be a c a cat. Joseph Luke: Oh. Donald Schmidt: That's its head. Um I probably like cats the most because they're cuddly and furry and uh playful. Okay. Edmund Huitink: I dunno if I should go John Alvine: Oh it's Edmund Huitink: with John Alvine: okay. Donald Schmidt: Thanks. Edmund Huitink: this. If it is enough line. I'm sorry. Donald Schmidt: Maybe put it up Put it a Maybe put it on the desk or something. John Alvine: Yeah. I should get used to the tool, so. Edmund Huitink: Okay. John Alvine: Oh just wait a little bit. C could we put it here, to make it as straight as possible? Ah probably not. Edmund Huitink: They John Alvine: Okay, Edmund Huitink: should be remote. Donald Schmidt: that's better. John Alvine: it it works like this. Edmund Huitink: Okay, thanks. Donald Schmidt: Your lapel microphone's fallen off. John Alvine: Are you left-handed? Edmund Huitink: No. John Alvine: Oh, pity. Edmund Huitink: Okay. Should I clean? Okay, I think like horses uh because they are strong and beautiful, so if I want to write it here, I think I can. Joseph Luke: Never mind. John Alvine: Ah, it's maybe Donald Schmidt: Yeah. John Alvine: better if you leave it. Donald Schmidt: Yeah. Maybe we should just continue. Joseph Luke: Yeah. Donald Schmidt: Yeah, don't worry about it. Joseph Luke: no Donald Schmidt: No. Joseph Luke: worry. Edmund Huitink: Okay. John Alvine: You won't draw them, Joseph Luke: You can John Alvine: or? Joseph Luke: draw it, if you Edmund Huitink: I dunno if I can. Joseph Luke: want. John Alvine: Just try. I would like to Edmund Huitink: Okay. John Alvine: see how it looks like. Edmund Huitink: It may be like a cow or I dunno, whatever. I'm not good very good in drawing. Okay, so this is very It's a bird, I think. I dunno what is it. John Alvine: No, I think it's clear. Edmund Huitink: Four. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. I'm shameful Donald Schmidt: Oh John Alvine: It's okay. It's Donald Schmidt: that's John Alvine: in Joseph Luke: Good. Donald Schmidt: good, it's good. John Alvine: it's indeed beautiful. Donald Schmidt: Yeah, and strong. Edmund Huitink: Yeah. Okay. John Alvine: Okay. Bob. Have to remember it. Bob. Joseph Luke: So good um So, let's talk about money. Uh we are going to to sell we want to sell uh this remote control for twenty five Euro Euro. And uh our expected profit will be around fifty million Euro. And uh we are trying to to have a market all around the world. So n not only for Switzerland, but for the world. Uh. So, um. The We expect a production cost of maximum uh twelve point fifty Euro. John Alvine: Per unit, I guess. Joseph Luke: Yeah, John Alvine: Y Joseph Luke: of course. John Alvine: oh okay. Joseph Luke: Um, so we can start today to have a first idea of what we want to do what are our experiments with remote control, and any idea? So, if you have some experience, good or bad, with remote controls you can share it and say what you f what is your idea. Anything. John Alvine: Okay. Donald Schmidt: Well, from experience, um I've had remote controls in the past that have had very they've had lots and lots of buttons and they've been very small, and it's been very hard to to to use, because there's so many buttons, and you know it's very hard to see which buttons do what, and the buttons are very small and very hard to press. Um and and normally you only every use, you know, on a T_V_ remote you only ever use, mostly, you know, f four Joseph Luke: Mm. Donald Schmidt: or f six John Alvine: Oh. Donald Schmidt: buttons. Um. So it's frustrated Donald Schmidt in the past, th that. John Alvine: Okay, I have also some points uh. Maybe two points. Uh first would be that in current remote controls there is no back light, so if you are if you are uh playing with this in the dark room it's Joseph Luke: Yeah. John Alvine: it's probably worth to to have something like uh back light. And maybe it could be also dependant on the the amount of of light in the room, so that if if it's in the day it doesn't need to be back lighted because it works on the battery, so. So something like this. And the second thing, f second point from Donald Schmidt would be that in a normal remote control there is uh there are two buttons for volume control. But Joseph Luke: Yeah. John Alvine: I prefer like a potential-meter or something like. Donald Schmidt: Ah, okay. Okay. John Alvine: You know, some slider Joseph Luke: Okay. John Alvine: or Edmund Huitink: Mm-hmm. John Alvine: Not Donald Schmidt: Okay, John Alvine: just two Donald Schmidt: n John Alvine: discrete buttons for volume, but something which Joseph Luke: Mm-hmm. Donald Schmidt: Is that because Joseph Luke: Yeah. Donald Schmidt: the of the discrete volume levels, or is that John Alvine: Yeah, but I can reach In uh one second I can mute it down, or Donald Schmidt: Yeah. Joseph Luke: Are John Alvine: or make Joseph Luke: you not afraid John Alvine: a Joseph Luke: that John Alvine: high volume. Joseph Luke: if you take your remote control you can move the slide and it could the the John Alvine: Ah, Joseph Luke: volume can John Alvine: n. Joseph Luke: go up very quickly and it John Alvine: If Joseph Luke: can John Alvine: it drops to the floor then it starts Joseph Luke: Yeah, also John Alvine: to scream. Joseph Luke: if y when you take the the remote control, for example on the table, you take it and you push the button and everything is very loud, and you have John Alvine: Yeah, Joseph Luke: a heart attack. John Alvine: f It depends what what you feel about that. Joseph Luke: Okay. Donald Schmidt: Yeah. John Alvine: Yeah but we can we can think of these things afterwards, but if you have some Joseph Luke: Yeah Edmund Huitink: Uh John Alvine: more notes Joseph Luke: so Edmund Huitink: I Joseph Luke: you John Alvine: on Joseph Luke: can John Alvine: that. Joseph Luke: Do you Edmund Huitink: Yeah, Joseph Luke: have something? Edmund Huitink: just a simple experience. I uh I prefer um remote control working with radio waves, because remote control working with infra-red rays Joseph Luke: Yeah, Edmund Huitink: you should Joseph Luke: that's true. Edmund Huitink: you should you should keep it in a specific direction and then try Joseph Luke: Yeah Edmund Huitink: it hard Joseph Luke: without Edmund Huitink: to Joseph Luke: obstacles Edmund Huitink: tune. Joseph Luke: and. John Alvine: Okay. Joseph Luke: Okay. John Alvine: Um. Joseph Luke: Let's continue. I have a meeting in five minutes, so Donald Schmidt: Okay. Joseph Luke: maybe we should hurry. John Alvine: Okay, Joseph Luke: Um. John Alvine: just a second. Joseph Luke: So we will close uh this meeting. So we will have a next meeting in uh thirty minutes. Um. Uh. The So I will ask you to do some work. Uh the the interface interface developer will work on the on the design of the remote control, start to to have new idea and John Alvine: Which i which is Hamed, Joseph Luke: read about Edmund Huitink: Mm. John Alvine: Okay. Joseph Luke: Yeah. Donald Schmidt: He's John Alvine? No, you're John Alvine. Edmund Huitink: Yeah. John Alvine: Uh I am the Technical Joseph Luke: Oh. John Alvine: Designer, I dunno Donald Schmidt: Yeah, I John Alvine: which Donald Schmidt: think John Alvine: one, Donald Schmidt: that's John Alvine: uh Joseph Luke: Industry Donald Schmidt: the first. Joseph Luke: and John Alvine: v. Edmund Huitink: Uh-huh. Joseph Luke: Oh. Donald Schmidt: I_D_. Industrial Designer. And the second one is Edmund Huitink. Edmund Huitink: Mm-hmm. John Alvine: User Donald Schmidt: And John Alvine: Interf Donald Schmidt: then John Alvine: Okay. Donald Schmidt: last one's marketing, which is Joseph Luke: Yeah. Donald Schmidt: Donald Schmidt. John Alvine: Okay, so I'm the first Joseph Luke: So, John Alvine: one. Joseph Luke: um For Edmund Huitink, which is Hamed Edmund Huitink: Mm-hmm. Joseph Luke: um, uh, you John Alvine: I Joseph Luke: are going John Alvine: see. Joseph Luke: to work on the technical functions of the remote control. Edmund Huitink: Okay. Joseph Luke: And for the Marketing uh Manager, I dunno, okay, which is Bob, uh you are going to try to to find the user requirements f uh for the remote control. Um, you will receive by email uh the specific instructions and uh by your personal coach. John Alvine: Sign. Joseph Luke: Yep finished. So I see you in thirty minutes. Donald Schmidt: Great, okay. John Alvine: Okay. Edmund Huitink: Okay, Donald Schmidt: Thanks guys. Bye. Edmund Huitink: thanks. Bye. Joseph Luke: Thank you. John Alvine: Uh.

Joseph Luke opened the meeting and had the team members introduce themselves by name and their role in the project. Joseph Luke introduced the upcoming project to the team and then had the team members participate in a tool training exercise in which each member drew his favorite animal on the white board and discussed what he liked about the animal. Joseph Luke also discussed selling prices and the project budget. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes, focusing on various features they would like to see in the remote they will produce, as well as features they find unappealing in current remotes.

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Pierre Goodall: Hello, uh Willie Lohr: Hello. Pierre Goodall: this Stephen Cavitt: Mm-hmm. Pierre Goodall: meeting Carlos Paar: Hello. Pierre Goodall: we are it's fo should on the conceptual design of the remote. Um the goal of this meeting is to reach a decision at the end on the concept and I think the last time we talked about an a lot and we had a rough idea of what is going to be, but uh in th at the end of this meeting we have to to reach a decision. So, uh we will have again three presentation, from all of you, and uh I hope will be fast because I would like to have to for long discussion and and decisions. So, who wants to start? Carlos Paar: I s Pierre Goodall: Okay. Willie Lohr: Okay. Carlos Paar: No, no, you you start. Willie Lohr: Okay, Pierre Goodall: So Willie Lohr: I'll Pierre Goodall: start, Willie Lohr: start. Pierre Goodall: uh Willie Lohr: Can open my presentation please. Pierre Goodall: Uh. Willie Lohr: I'm number four. Trend. Pierre Goodall: This one? Willie Lohr: Yep. Can you pass the mouse, please. Oh Pierre Goodall: Turn. Willie Lohr: okay, that's fine. Okay. Um so basically I just want to presented to you present to you some recent results we've had from um looking at uh um some remote control market research and some fashion trends around the world. Um fashion trends we got from talking our our contacts Um so f from our market research basically we've come to the conclusion that a fancy look and feel, um as opposed to a functional look and feel, is our number one priority. Um fancy is is Pierre Goodall: Hmm. Willie Lohr: is is Stephen Cavitt: Hmm. Willie Lohr: the, you know, highest priority. Secondly um that our remote control needs to be techn technologically innovative. Um so this is t number two priority but it's two times less important as the fancy criteria. Um and third thirdly the easiness of use is is the um is is important as well, but again two times less important as the technologically innovativeness of the remote control. From our f fashion people in Paris and Milan, um we've discovered that this year um fruit the fruit and vegetable motif will be the most important thing in in clothes, shoes and furniture. So, I'm pretty confident that our remote control fits into the furniture category. And also um the feel of material this year um is expected to be spongy. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Willie Lohr: Um so hopefully our remote control reflects that s in some way. Stephen Cavitt: What does it mean, spongy Willie Lohr: Uh sort of um squishy. Um. Stephen Cavitt: Like soft, or something? Willie Lohr: Yeah soft, like a uh Pierre Goodall: Like Willie Lohr: like a Pierre Goodall: a Willie Lohr: sponge. Pierre Goodall: sponge. Willie Lohr: I Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: don't Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Willie Lohr: know. Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: I will see. Willie Lohr: Um so in conclusion, we need a our remote control needs to be something that's really fancy, um has lots of technolog tech technology in it. Um somehow Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Willie Lohr: would be good to have it related to fruit and vegetables with a spongy feel. And that it's easy to use and from our last meeting our you know Fabian told us that w you know one of the requirements is that we have to reflect the look and feel of our of th the Real Reaction company. Um. Pierre Goodall: Yeah, uh Willie Lohr: That's it. Pierre Goodall: yeah. Easy to use, is it uh a as much as important than technology or fancy thing. It's less important, right? Willie Lohr: Less important. So Pierre Goodall: Yeah yeah. Willie Lohr: um fanciness first and Pierre Goodall: Okay. Willie Lohr: then two ti you know, half as important as that is technology technology, and half important as technology is easy to use. So. Pierre Goodall: So, Hamed, can you. Carlos Paar: Yeah. The second one. Could you please Pierre Goodall: Mm-hmm. Carlos Paar: show the presentation number three. Stephen Cavitt: I think the biggest struggle will be the easy to use feature. We'll see. Carlos Paar: Yeah. Pierre Goodall: Um. Number? Carlos Paar: Three. Pierre Goodall: Three. This one? Carlos Paar: Yes. Just Could you please check if it is the first one or the second. Uh, n n no, it's the first one. The second one. Pierre Goodall: So it's not this one. Carlos Paar: Uh yeah. Okay. Okay So am going to talk about a little bit about how this remote control should be to be more easy to use I think uh I think the feature easy to use is more important than being fancy, but okay, we can discuss about it uh later. Um generally, generally uh this remote control uh uh should be should be something, in my opinion, uh the first feature is just to be easy to use. So, the more frequent buttons should be larger, they should be placed in a good position uh uh inside the remote control. And uh s uh I can conclude like this, that we shouldn't need to learn how to use it. It should be we shouldn't need to es open a a t book and uh start reading and uh learning how to use this uh this uh remote control. Okay. So what I found out that uh as I said uh I think it's better to put uh more frequent uh uh uh ke uh buttons which are used more in the middle of the remote control, and they should be bigger in size. Uh the shape of remote control should be in a way which can which should be taken easily in hand. It should not be completely like uh a cube. It should be it should have round edge, so Stephen Cavitt: Exactly. Carlos Paar: uh then it's easier. And maybe uh just like some toys, some joystick which is easier to take inside the hand. And uh also f uh uh m because because customers doesn't like to buy lots of battery, it should not uh consume lots of energy. Okay. And my personal p uh preference is uh, as I said, uh just putting this buttons in a special places and covered some buttons which are not used uh that much like settings button, like mobile phone. Usually some mobile phone cover the dialling number part, so we can cover these buttons which are not used or uh number buttons for the for the for the can channels, and just put uh volume change or s ch can uh channel change buttons uh uh in the remote control. And if the user needed to do some more complex task uh he he can open the cover and then change settings or something like this. Uh. And also uh I think if we put some some some some some buttons inside of the remote control it can be used easier. Not on remote control. I dunno if I can explain well. But uh just inside. For example, a sliding or rolling uh uh d uh stuff, if we put it inside then we can easily manipulate with uh thumb. So it can be another uh preference. And uh I dunno but uh I think usage of a speech recogn uh r recogniser can be good. I know that it consumes lots of energy, but if we do it in some way that it asleeps when there is no sound and when it detects some sound it may consume less energy. And I think it's good because it's something new and usually young people like something new. So it may not be very useful but because it's new, people may buy it. Uh I personally think there should be a big difference between uh between something. Otherwise they prefer to buy something which is coming from a famous company, or. Okay. That's mine. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: Uh okay, so good news from Willie Lohr uh uh for Willie Lohr from Hamed, but bad news from Bob obviously, because spongy design, I don't like it as Okay, so could you please, Fabien, open it. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: I'm person two. And which one, uh first one. I'm not sure but check the first one. I Most of the things I have to write myself on the Pierre Goodall: This Stephen Cavitt: board, Pierre Goodall: one, yeah. Stephen Cavitt: but Yeah, that's it. Just It's only this slide? Yeah. This this is just uh one thing I wanted to mention and show you that I just uh I just found this, that our company uh developed a s a seven f seven fingers or I'll just Willie Lohr: Inch. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, seven seven inch T_ T_F_T_ screen, which is good news for us, since we wanted to include a display there. Uh so I I probably Pierre Goodall: Oh, Stephen Cavitt: draw it down raw scheme. This is this is the stuff that I Pierre Goodall: Oops. Stephen Cavitt: can use to Okay, so the this will be like the overall scheme or overall requirements from the engineering point of view. Uh first thing is uh this will be the overall shape, no uh I'm not speaking about the real shape of the device, but the shape of the inside of the device. So there will be some circuit uh for the power. So, say power circuit here. Uh the main energy will be taken from batteries that we can uh uh And if we decide to use the speech recognition stuff there, we must use additional source of energy, which I found the best is to use the solar cells which can which can uh supply everything. I was computing all the all the things related to the speech recognition, and it's okay to use just uh two batteries and solar cells, so. So no problem. There can be also solar cell. Uh the main board with all the circuits will take at least seven to seven centimetres, so this is my like hard requirement for the guys from the design. So Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Stephen Cavitt: at least seven to seven. It depends where you put your screen, because the screen is uh seven inch, so it depends on you where where you put it. It doesn't matter. Um it's just one cord from from the main board to the screen which can be elsewhere. So this will be T_F_T_. And on the main board we have the um interface to the microphone, which is somewhere, say here. Interface to the microphone. Then the graphical card uh for the T_F_T_ and the third unit is the I_R_. The good news is that we can uh we decided to use the infra-red unit because our company has also developed the chip for communication by the infra-red, including all the stuff inside, so it will be very cheap for us. So infra-red here. So the once again the overall requirements, seven to seven centimetres for the board, which has to be which can be spongy but has to be this size, and the T_F_T_ which is seven inches. Um I have to check what I wanted to Uh from my point of view I don't care about the about the material used for the overall des uh ov all the device. Pierre Goodall: Can you fit any uh for example a T_F_T_ or any electronic device in a spongy thing, or is there any problem for that? For example, put electronic card on a spongy thing, I can I can imagine it could be a problem. Stephen Cavitt: A all these things in in uh in this box are okay to put in in any shape, basically. But we Pierre Goodall: Yep. Stephen Cavitt: have to take care of the T_F_T_. Well, sponginess. Maybe it a good feature, since it takes if it's around the T_F_T_ Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: then it's Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: good, because it's just keeps it safe, I dunno. Carlos Paar: Well maybe it Willie Lohr: So Carlos Paar: can have two shells, a hard shell inside and a spongy Pierre Goodall: Okay. Carlos Paar: shell Pierre Goodall: Maybe Carlos Paar: outside. Pierre Goodall: put electronic in a box and a spongy thing around. Stephen Cavitt: Well, Pierre Goodall: maybe after. Willie Lohr: So Stephen Cavitt: it's maybe Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: Ca Stephen Cavitt: related to the U_I_. Willie Lohr: Can I ask a question. Stephen Cavitt: A Yeah, that's all from Willie Lohr. Willie Lohr: This seven inch T_F_T_ screen, Stephen Cavitt: Yeah? Willie Lohr: how big is it in reality? Stephen Cavitt: Well, seven to seven inches. Willie Lohr: So like that. Stephen Cavitt: Yes. Willie Lohr: That's quite big. Uh uh have we decided that we're gonna use this T_F_T_ screen? Stephen Cavitt: Yeah Pierre Goodall: No, Stephen Cavitt: but Pierre Goodall: I don't think it's seven by seven, I think it's Stephen Cavitt: To Pierre Goodall: seven Stephen Cavitt: be honest, Pierre Goodall: the diagonal Stephen Cavitt: I was Pierre Goodall: is seven. Usually when they say Willie Lohr: But Pierre Goodall: seven Willie Lohr: I mean even Carlos Paar: Yeah Pierre Goodall: inch Willie Lohr: even Pierre Goodall: I Carlos Paar: yes. Willie Lohr: that Pierre Goodall: think Willie Lohr: is Pierre Goodall: it's Willie Lohr: like Pierre Goodall: the Willie Lohr: this Pierre Goodall: diagonal. Willie Lohr: big. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. I dunno I dun I dun One each. But, yeah, Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, honestly speaking I was thinking that it was seven centimetres initially, Willie Lohr: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: but it's seven inches. But I I think we can we can cut it. Willie Lohr: You can cut the T_F_T_ screen. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, no no problem, Pierre Goodall: Let's Stephen Cavitt: because Pierre Goodall: go. Stephen Cavitt: because because then the size of the graphic card will be one fourth. So Yeah, but no Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: problem Pierre Goodall: let's cut Stephen Cavitt: to Pierre Goodall: the Stephen Cavitt: to Pierre Goodall: T_F_T_. Stephen Cavitt: Willie Lohr to cut the screen. Carlos Paar: Mm. Willie Lohr: Okay, so Stephen Cavitt: So so for the same price we have four Pierre Goodall: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: screens now. Willie Lohr: Okay. Pierre Goodall: These technical engineers, huh. Willie Lohr: So, what's the size of the device? Stephen Cavitt: Ah well this is like this is almost nothing. Seven to seven to at least well some three millimetres or something. Willie Lohr: Even from my perspective seven t seven centimetres by seven centimetres is still Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, but we wanted the big Willie Lohr: Is it Stephen Cavitt: buttons Willie Lohr: Can you hold Stephen Cavitt: and Willie Lohr: that, Stephen Cavitt: stuff Willie Lohr: or? Stephen Cavitt: like that, you know. Because if it's t too small we can we can lose it, at home, you know. Pierre Goodall: What user wants. He wants a small remote control, Carlos Paar: Uh. Willie Lohr: Yeah, Pierre Goodall: or? Uh Willie Lohr: a small Pierre Goodall: uh Stephen Cavitt: I thought Willie Lohr: c Stephen Cavitt: that Willie Lohr: control Stephen Cavitt: it it Willie Lohr: that they Stephen Cavitt: should Willie Lohr: can Pierre Goodall: with Stephen Cavitt: fit Willie Lohr: hold Pierre Goodall: big Willie Lohr: in Stephen Cavitt: in Willie Lohr: hand. Stephen Cavitt: the Pierre Goodall: buttons. Stephen Cavitt: hand or Carlos Paar: Yes. Stephen Cavitt: something. Pierre Goodall: It's difficult. A Willie Lohr: But Pierre Goodall: sm Willie Lohr: is something that's seven centimetres square e easy to hold? Stephen Cavitt: W I I think so. I if the roller buttons are on the side you don't have to catch it like that, but just like this, and you know follow follow Well, that's that's no task for Willie Lohr, but well Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: seven Pierre Goodall: maybe you Stephen Cavitt: to Pierre Goodall: can Stephen Cavitt: seven Pierre Goodall: finish Stephen Cavitt: at least Pierre Goodall: your presentation, Stephen Cavitt: yeah, but Pierre Goodall: and afterwards we will discuss Carlos Paar: Maybe this. Stephen Cavitt: Oh, Pierre Goodall: about Willie Lohr: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: okay. Pierre Goodall: all this. Stephen Cavitt: Okay thanks. Pierre Goodall: That's it. Okay. So. No. Uh, so I think we have a lot We have to take decision today, so I think we have to do some work to finalise our idea and take decisions. Uh first I think energy it's a key problem because uh it depend what can we have as feature if we use only batteries, for example, or something like that. Because can we have L_C_D_ and speech recognition with battery, and it's Stephen Cavitt: Not Pierre Goodall: also r related to the size of the of the devi of the Stephen Cavitt: J Pierre Goodall: device? Stephen Cavitt: uh just a point to the energy th things. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: so no problem in energy, Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: I think. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: But Carlos Paar: So but Stephen Cavitt: we have to use the solar cell. Otherwise Pierre Goodall: Uh Stephen Cavitt: not. Pierre Goodall: like but using how many batteries, for example? Are are what Maybe what is the size of the battery Stephen Cavitt: Yeah I was thinking just common A_A_ cells. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Uh Stephen Cavitt: So like Pierre Goodall: one Stephen Cavitt: three Pierre Goodall: two Stephen Cavitt: to five centimetres, I dunno exactly, Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: but. Willie Lohr: So if we use s solar cells, um Stephen Cavitt: S Willie Lohr: where is the sun if someone's watching Stephen Cavitt: Uh Willie Lohr: T_V_ Stephen Cavitt: d Willie Lohr: inside? Stephen Cavitt: doesn't need to be sun. It it's just the daylight, you know. Pierre Goodall: The Willie Lohr: Okay. Pierre Goodall: television Stephen Cavitt: Yeah well I I Pierre Goodall: lights. Stephen Cavitt: suppose that I suppose that uh that this remote control won't be in the in the room like this, where there is light only when Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Stephen Cavitt: when there are people, but. Pierre Goodall: At least when there is T_V_ you can get light Stephen Cavitt: Yeah Pierre Goodall: from Stephen Cavitt: from the Pierre Goodall: the Stephen Cavitt: T_ Pierre Goodall: T_V_. Carlos Paar: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: I don't think it's enough, uh. Pierre Goodall: I dunno. Willie Lohr: Okay. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Mm. Stephen Cavitt: Ah it's a it's a compromise, no? Pierre Goodall: At least it's new and maybe technology Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, Pierre Goodall: New Stephen Cavitt: that's Willie Lohr: It's Pierre Goodall: technology. Stephen Cavitt: why I Willie Lohr: it's Stephen Cavitt: wanted Willie Lohr: quite innovative, Stephen Cavitt: to to include Willie Lohr: yes. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: the speech recognition, Carlos Paar: Hmm. Stephen Cavitt: because you wanted Pierre Goodall: Um. Stephen Cavitt: all the new Willie Lohr: And if you Stephen Cavitt: things. Willie Lohr: watch T_V_ outside it's very Pierre Goodall: So Willie Lohr: useful. Pierre Goodall: I think before talking about the other thing, it's important thing it's the case. Uh what what are gonna be the size, because its weight drives the other what we are going to use as features and so on. For example for the for the L_C_D_, if we choose to have a small device, we cannot use this um a such a a a screen. Stephen Cavitt: Uh the s the screen is okay, but the board, uh that's the problem. Well what what would you guess as a shape? Or what Carlos Paar: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: what would be the shape? Carlos Paar: I think I think their being uh large or small is not important. The only important thing is to be able to take it in uh inside hand easily. So let's say Stephen Cavitt: Mm. Carlos Paar: an average size, okay, and it should not be very heavy also. And I prefer to is it shouldn't have a uniform shape, so in the middle it should be a little bit thinner, maybe maybe. So we c it's like like some joysticks. You can take uh some some joystick you can take inside hand easier because it's it's designed for your f uh taking into account your finger shape and your palm shape. So the general shape should be like this. I think uh seven centimetre by seven centimetre is a little bit large. So uh Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Carlos Paar: seven not seven but let's say five by ten it's I think it's that's my opinion. Willie Lohr: Which Carlos Paar: It's Willie Lohr: is the same Carlos Paar: easier. Willie Lohr: area. Carlos Paar: Yeah. Willie Lohr: Could Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Willie Lohr: you re could you redesign your board? Stephen Cavitt: Five to ten. Willie Lohr: Oh, five Stephen Cavitt: Well that Willie Lohr: five centimetres by ten centimetres. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, right. Willie Lohr: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, I think it's feasib Well one um um How could we do it? We could put the board next to, well, under the L_C_D_ and for Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Stephen Cavitt: example make the L_C_D_ be totally unrelated to the thing that you hold in your hand. Like holding something, and the L_C_D_ to be just on top of it, you know somehow. Well But maybe Pierre Goodall: Oh. Stephen Cavitt: let's stick to the s spongy thing, like one unit. Pierre Goodall: I've Stephen Cavitt: Well Pierre Goodall: I Stephen Cavitt: fi Pierre Goodall: s Stephen Cavitt: five Pierre Goodall: I Stephen Cavitt: to Pierre Goodall: think Stephen Cavitt: ten it would be feasible. Pierre Goodall: the easiest thing would be to to have a smaller L_C_D_, if it's possible. Carlos Paar: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: Okay, so five to ten, I I think it's it's Pierre Goodall: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: feasible. Pierre Goodall: So we Stephen Cavitt: I'll make Pierre Goodall: are agree Stephen Cavitt: it. Pierre Goodall: with a small Carlos Paar: Or Stephen Cavitt: Fo Pierre Goodall: L_C_D_. Carlos Paar: uh Stephen Cavitt: Five by ten. Carlos Paar: or I don't know but I don't want to now invent something new, because we didn't discuss about it. So using some L_C_D_s we can touch, so we can remove uh keys and just uh having uh, I dunno the name, L_C_D_ responding to fingers. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Carlos Paar: Touching the screen. Something Pierre Goodall: Tactile Carlos Paar: like Willie Lohr: Mm, Pierre Goodall: or something, Willie Lohr: touch screen. Pierre Goodall: yeah. Touch screen, yeah. Carlos Paar: So But for now if we don't want to use such kind of screens Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Carlos Paar: I I think we using a a smaller screen is better, because Pierre Goodall: The problem is we have a limit in a month of time, so we cannot do Stephen Cavitt: Mm-hmm. Pierre Goodall: something very new. So Willie Lohr: So Pierre Goodall: let's go Stephen Cavitt: Okay, Pierre Goodall: for Stephen Cavitt: so Pierre Goodall: a small L_C_D_. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, so Carlos Paar: A smaller Stephen Cavitt: so just Carlos Paar: s Stephen Cavitt: just give Willie Lohr the the the five by ten numbers that Pierre Goodall: Yeah Stephen Cavitt: you find Pierre Goodall: okay. Stephen Cavitt: the best and send Carlos Paar: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: it Willie Lohr and Pierre Goodall: So, Stephen Cavitt: I will Pierre Goodall: five Stephen Cavitt: work Pierre Goodall: by Stephen Cavitt: it Pierre Goodall: s Stephen Cavitt: out. Pierre Goodall: ten. Stephen Cavitt: Hmm. Pierre Goodall: Um so what about, so the case we talked about. Um something easy to use, you said something easy to use but how does that fit in a fashion way, like with fruit and vegetable, and about the colour and logo of the of the company and so on, now, can we do that? My first idea is because our colour is more yellow, and the it should be easy to take in a hand, I thought about banana, or something like that, which is fruits, and Stephen Cavitt: Seven to ten banana. Pierre Goodall: A big Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Pierre Goodall: banana. Stephen Cavitt: Rather mango or something or. Pierre Goodall: Um. Willie Lohr: Well it's it's definitely the obvious choice, with the colour of Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: our company. I mean what Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: other Pierre Goodall: But Willie Lohr: what other fruit Pierre Goodall: it's just Willie Lohr: and vegetables Pierre Goodall: an idea. I dunno what you think Willie Lohr: Do you Pierre Goodall: about, Willie Lohr: know of any any other fruit Pierre Goodall: but Willie Lohr: and vegetables that are yellow? Pierre Goodall: Yeah. I dunno if it can fit with the technology. You are the specialists of that. Stephen Cavitt: You mean banana. Well, but If it's If it If the banana is big enough. Then, yes. Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: But if you want to look at the screen, no. Well Pierre Goodall: Yeah, and Carlos Paar: I think this Pierre Goodall: The Carlos Paar: is Pierre Goodall: screen has Carlos Paar: not good. Pierre Goodall: to be square? Or it can be like a a shape, quite, Stephen Cavitt: Well, Pierre Goodall: uh Stephen Cavitt: it can Pierre Goodall: with Stephen Cavitt: be Pierre Goodall: curves. Stephen Cavitt: whatever you want. But Pierre Goodall: It could. Stephen Cavitt: if it's square then we get four screens out of one by cutting just. But if you want some shape then we Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: can only get like two screens out of seven to seven inches, Carlos Paar: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: so. It's like more more expensive to have shape like that. But I don't care. You know, if we fit Willie Lohr: Well Stephen Cavitt: this requirement. Willie Lohr: I'd like a shaped screen. I think that's more important than saving Stephen Cavitt: Okay Pierre Goodall: Okay Willie Lohr: a bit Pierre Goodall: okay. Willie Lohr: of money on Carlos Paar: Mm. Willie Lohr: on the T_F_T_ screen. Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, m maybe the banana could be like a bit uh fatter than than the c Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: c common Pierre Goodall: Yeah, Stephen Cavitt: one. Pierre Goodall: it should Stephen Cavitt: But Pierre Goodall: remember banana, but it's not doesn't have to b Stephen Cavitt: Like modified Pierre Goodall: to be uh uh Stephen Cavitt: banana, okay. Pierre Goodall: really the size and exactly the shape of a banana. Stephen Cavitt: Well it we'll stick to banana, or? Carlos Paar: Okay. Willie Lohr: Yeah, banana's Pierre Goodall: Okay. Willie Lohr: good. Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Willie Lohr: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: Mm-mm. Pierre Goodall: So, the last point we decided it's infra-red, I guess. Carlos Paar: Yeah, I Stephen Cavitt: Yeah, Pierre Goodall: Everybody's Carlos Paar: think infra-red. Stephen Cavitt: yeah. Pierre Goodall: agreed. Stephen Cavitt: Sure. Pierre Goodall: Uh, so that's it I think about the concepts. You have other thing to add to this point, or uh no? So, uh about the user interface, so we are going to use L_C_D_. In the last meeting we talked about uh hidden buttons. I don't know what we are going to do with that. You Stephen Cavitt: Like Pierre Goodall: talked Stephen Cavitt: like Pierre Goodall: about Stephen Cavitt: peeling Pierre Goodall: the Stephen Cavitt: of Pierre Goodall: buttons Stephen Cavitt: the banana Pierre Goodall: on the Carlos Paar: Yeah, Pierre Goodall: side Stephen Cavitt: you s Carlos Paar: peeling of the banana. Stephen Cavitt: It Pierre Goodall: Mm Stephen Cavitt: would be cool, yeah. Pierre Goodall: what? Stephen Cavitt: Peeling of the banana, you know, Carlos Paar: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: should should discover the other buttons, Carlos Paar: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: which are hidden. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Okay. And you mean the first layer would be spongy. Carlos Paar: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: First layer obviously spo Yeah, w Pierre Goodall: So Stephen Cavitt: It's it's like Pierre Goodall: Is Stephen Cavitt: silly, but the people Pierre Goodall: it Stephen Cavitt: will really appreciate Pierre Goodall: is Stephen Cavitt: it, yeah Pierre Goodall: it Stephen Cavitt: I think. Pierre Goodall: possible to do that? It would be a great idea, but is it possible technically? Carlos Paar: Uh Pierre Goodall: Like doing a spongy layer of Willie Lohr: I think Pierre Goodall: the banana, Willie Lohr: if we Pierre Goodall: and Willie Lohr: if Pierre Goodall: you Willie Lohr: we Pierre Goodall: open Willie Lohr: have a Pierre Goodall: it. Willie Lohr: spongy layer on the outside of the banana then Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: it's easy to make that, you know, to Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Willie Lohr: manipulate that Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Willie Lohr: to Carlos Paar: Yeah, Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Carlos Paar: some Willie Lohr: hav be a cover that you can pull off and Carlos Paar: Something like a plastic cover covering uh some interface, U_S_B_ interface as in the in uh digital camera. If you see it's like peeling. You open a plastic cover and you see some U_S_B_ interfaces, some some interfaces for adaptor. So keys can be uh buttons can be covered like this, with a plastic cover and uh when uh and when you open this cover it's like peeling a banana. So, something like this. Pierre Goodall: Yeah, but do you see that as a rigid thing, or like like a banana, something very soft, you can open like banana, or. Stephen Cavitt: Well is it possible to make it soft? Carlos Paar: Yeah, yeah, Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Carlos Paar: yeah it's a lic like a plastic cover, so. Stephen Cavitt: So I think Pierre Goodall: So, Stephen Cavitt: if it's so then it's Pierre Goodall: I dunno Stephen Cavitt: cool? Pierre Goodall: what you think, Bob, but it would be great for users I think, and very Willie Lohr: I think for Pierre Goodall: good Willie Lohr: sure. Pierre Goodall: for marketing. Willie Lohr: Definitely. The softer the better. Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: Cool. Willie Lohr: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: Honestly speaking, I cannot imagine it, so far, but Pierre Goodall: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: it will be terrible. Pierre Goodall: Um. Stephen Cavitt: Mm. Pierre Goodall: And setting buttons hidden in. Pierre Goodall: Mm, other remarks, or something, or. Something we didn't talk about yes yet, or. I think we are almost there. Uh maybe, how can we, if we have a soft thing, like this, and to open it we have to attach it somewhere, I dunno how to do that technically, or. Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Pierre Goodall: And how Stephen Cavitt: Pof. Willie Lohr: We could use Velcro. Pierre Goodall: Yeah, maybe. Willie Lohr: Or uh ma maybe a magnetic Carlos Paar: Yes, yeah it's a good idea. Willie Lohr: thing. Carlos Paar: Magnetic. Pierre Goodall: Ma magnetic oh. Carlos Paar: Mm. Yeah or a Yeah it can is it can be a plastic cover uh sticking to the to the all the stuff like uh with magnetic p uh magnetic uh magnetic uh materials in the border, so it's it sticks like refrigerator door, completely. Pierre Goodall: Okay. Carlos Paar: And when you try to open it, it will be opened easily. So you you can be sure that it will not be open while you're uh while while uh you are commonly using uh buttons on Pierre Goodall: Okay. Carlos Paar: the banana. Pierre Goodall: And what would be the matter here of the first layer I mean? Mm. Likes. Soft plastic, or Willie Lohr: Yeah, I imagine some sort of vinyl Pierre Goodall: Yeah, Willie Lohr: thing. Pierre Goodall: yeah, yeah. Willie Lohr: In a in a sort of a with a suede sort of feel. Maybe. Stephen Cavitt: Well since since the since the things like the like the screen and um how to say that, solar cell has to be has to be like kept kept in the shape, we cannot b uh So we need that the that the peeling uh I dunno but we should we should take care of these two two things. So, if if uh the solar cell won't be visible while the banana is closed, then the material must be able to put the light inside, you know. So that we can reach the energy out of it out of that. Willie Lohr: Mm. Carlos Paar: Mm. Willie Lohr: So you're saying is it possible to have a solar cell and this removable cover Stephen Cavitt: It is Willie Lohr: and Stephen Cavitt: possible, but, well if Willie Lohr: And Stephen Cavitt: it Willie Lohr: a and a banana. Carlos Paar: Mm. Stephen Cavitt: I dunno. I dunno how to how to do it if if t if to if it's better to put the solar cell to the t to the peeling or outside it, Pierre Goodall: Hmm. Willie Lohr: Yeah. Stephen Cavitt: or or inside. But then it must be some window there, Willie Lohr: Okay. Stephen Cavitt: you know. Carlos Paar: Mm. Pierre Goodall: And something we forgot, maybe, uh about the speech recognition system, are we going to use it, or not? Carlos Paar: Yes, I think. Willie Lohr: I think Carlos Paar: I Willie Lohr: it's Carlos Paar: think Willie Lohr: important. Carlos Paar: so. Pierre Goodall: It Willie Lohr: I think Pierre Goodall: i Yeah, Willie Lohr: One Pierre Goodall: it seems Willie Lohr: of our Pierre Goodall: feasible, Willie Lohr: p Pierre Goodall: and it Willie Lohr: priorities Pierre Goodall: would be Willie Lohr: is Pierre Goodall: something Willie Lohr: tech Pierre Goodall: very Willie Lohr: technology. Pierre Goodall: great. Carlos Paar: Mm. Willie Lohr: And Pierre Goodall: So we have the de design, the a good shape, Carlos Paar: Mm-hmm. Pierre Goodall: new and so on, and we have also the technology thing w will be. Willie Lohr: Mm-hmm. Pierre Goodall: And Carlos Paar: Mm. Pierre Goodall: even the easy to use thing, so it will be perfect. Carlos Paar: Mm. Pierre Goodall: So Willie Lohr: Yeah. Pierre Goodall: we add also Stephen Cavitt: Yeah. Pierre Goodall: the speech recognition device. Stephen Cavitt: I agree. Pierre Goodall: So, that great. We have decided everything. And think we are on a good way. So, um uh the next meeting will start in thirty minutes. Um, so uh the the Industrial Manager uh will uh will work on the look and feel design. The User Interface uh uh Mana uh Manager will work on the user interface device. And the Willie Lohr will do the first project evaluation. Willie Lohr: Okay. Pierre Goodall: So, I hope you can do that in thirty minutes. And uh, yeah, I uh I think you should work together, s you uh Hamed and Peter, to work uh in a in a first prototype, and uh more about the shape and so on and how you can manage to put everything together. And um as usual you will receive some specific instructions on. So Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Pierre Goodall: thank you all everybody, and see you in thirty minutes. Willie Lohr: Okay. Thank Stephen Cavitt: Okay. Willie Lohr: you. Carlos Paar: Thank you.

Pierre Goodall stated that the goal for the current meeting was to decide upon a concept for the remote the team is creating. Willie Lohr discussed his findings from trend watching reports. He found that current trends are such that a product must have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif, and must be spongy. Carlos Paar discussed how to create an interface for a remote that is easy to use. Carlos Paar discussed the placement of commonly used buttons, the overall shape of a remote, and how to hide less commonly used buttons. Stephen Cavitt discussed various components and energy sources the remote could include. Stephen Cavitt focused on the use of a TFT screen and the use of solar cells to supplement the energy from two regular batteries. The team then discussed and made decisions regarding the option to use solar cells, the specifications of an LCD screen, how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable motif into their design, and how to hide lesser used buttons.

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Monroe Munoz: Oops. Joseph Bounds: So, hello everyone. We're here to have a kick-off meeting for the design of a f for the beginning of new project um uh remote control for the design for a new remote control. I'm Joseph Bounds Christa Pavlov and okay let's begin. So I'm first going to do an opening then we get used to one anothers and we speak about this tool we're going to design and try to make a project plan, some discussion and then we talk of uh the next meeting. So um we want to to do a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user friendly. Um I think the important points we have to t talk about are uh it's functional design, it's conceptual design, and desail detailed design. and for that we're going um all to work individually and then have meeting during the whole day. Um, so let's try the whiteboard. John Eastham: Wow. Joseph Bounds: Um so any of you who want to go. Monroe Munoz: Yeah, for favourite animals. It's not favourite one but the I can draw. And it's gonna be you'll try to guess. John Eastham: Wow. Joseph Bounds: Wow. John Eastham: Complex. Huh? A cat. Gerald Mccann: No. Monroe Munoz: No. John Eastham: No. Darn. Uh. Joseph Bounds: A rabbit. Monroe Munoz: Yes, that's a rabbit. John Eastham: A Monroe Munoz: That's John Eastham: what? Monroe Munoz: my favourite Joseph Bounds: A Monroe Munoz: one. Joseph Bounds: rabbit. John Eastham: A r Gerald Mccann: Rabbit. John Eastham: a rabbit, oh oh yeah, where is the carrot? Okay Monroe Munoz: That's John Eastham: mm-hmm. Monroe Munoz: it. Joseph Bounds: You want to go? John Eastham: I am not very good at Monroe Munoz: Hmm. John Eastham: uh this kind of stuff. My favourite animal is Monroe Munoz: Wow. Gerald Mccann: You wa Joseph Bounds: A human John Eastham: Guess. Joseph Bounds: ah. John Eastham: A human, yay. It's a very complex animal Monroe Munoz: No. John Eastham: and um yeah. Characteristics of this this animal is dangerous. Joseph Bounds: Mm I think Gerald Mccann: Is Joseph Bounds: you're Gerald Mccann: the white Joseph Bounds: supposed to, yeah. Gerald Mccann: okay. Joseph Bounds: Hmm. Gerald Mccann: I guess you can. Monroe Munoz: Wow. That's cobra. John Eastham: of uh snake? Cobra? Exactly. Gerald Mccann: Yeah uh not really. Small cobra. Monroe Munoz: No, it just small cobra, yeah. John Eastham: Uh-huh. Joseph Bounds: Is that Monroe Munoz: It's Joseph Bounds: a worm? Monroe Munoz: co c Joseph Bounds: Or Monroe Munoz: quite recognisable. John Eastham: What about you Joseph Bounds: Uh yeah Christa Pavlov John Eastham: uh Christa? Gerald Mccann: Chris. Monroe Munoz: Christa Christa. Joseph Bounds: Mm. John Eastham: A fish. Gerald Mccann: Mm. Monroe Munoz: Hmm. Joseph Bounds: Smiling fish. Gerald Mccann: Smile fish. John Eastham: A smiling fish. Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. Monroe Munoz: Okay. John Eastham: So, w whiteboard is working? Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Joseph Bounds: Yeah. John Eastham: Good. Next. Joseph Bounds: Next. Let's talk about money. John Eastham: Yeah, well. Monroe Munoz: According to the drawings. John Eastham: Not John Eastham. Gerald Mccann: Yeah, Monroe Munoz: Okay. Gerald Mccann: you're John Eastham: So. Joseph Bounds: So. John Eastham: Twenty five Euro for a Joseph Bounds: Yeah, John Eastham: remote control. Joseph Bounds: mm that's the price Gerald Mccann: Hmm. Joseph Bounds: we want to that's John Eastham: Okay. Joseph Bounds: the aim for the price for the remote control. We aim to do this profit. John Eastham: 'tis big number. Monroe Munoz: On the Joseph Bounds: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: international market. Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. Gerald Mccann: Yeah, we're to sell two million then. Monroe Munoz: Wow. John Eastham: Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm for a production cost of mm twelve fifty Euros maximum. 'Kay. So any of you have experience in remote controls? John Eastham: Uh Gerald Mccann: Mm John Eastham: yes, Gerald Mccann: yeah. John Eastham: we have plenty at home. In fact, my daughter likes l remote Joseph Bounds: That Monroe Munoz: Mm. John Eastham: controls. Monroe Munoz: To eat? John Eastham: To eat? Yeah, mainly, and to break. Joseph Bounds: So that could be a great um application. Remote controls children proof. John Eastham: Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm John Eastham: Yeah. Joseph Bounds: mm-hmm. John Eastham: Ye Monroe Munoz: Children John Eastham: ye Monroe Munoz: proof. John Eastham: yeah. Monroe Munoz: Hmm. John Eastham: So she likes uh buttons Gerald Mccann: Yeah, Joseph Bounds: Okay. Gerald Mccann: pret John Eastham: which make click, so it has to click. Joseph Bounds: So they have to be waterproof John Eastham: It has Joseph Bounds: maybe? John Eastham: to be uh Joseph Bounds: 'Cause John Eastham: wha Joseph Bounds: they John Eastham: baby Joseph Bounds: eat John Eastham: proof Joseph Bounds: she ate John Eastham: yeah Joseph Bounds: it. John Eastham: but mainly it has to be very robust because Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: even if Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: she's not very tall she's uh high enough so that uh when she throw it away it's uh Gerald Mccann: Ah. John Eastham: So it has to be very robust. Monroe Munoz: Okay, unbreakable. John Eastham: Unbreakable, Monroe Munoz: Uh-huh. John Eastham: yeah. Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: And uh it has to be nice looking, Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: colourful, Joseph Bounds: Colourful, John Eastham: maybe Monroe Munoz: Colourful? Joseph Bounds: yeah mm. Monroe Munoz: That's not John Eastham: colourful, Monroe Munoz: practical. John Eastham: because Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: uh nobody has colourful Joseph Bounds: No, that's Gerald Mccann: Yeah, it's Joseph Bounds: a John Eastham: remote Joseph Bounds: good Gerald Mccann: always John Eastham: control, Joseph Bounds: idea. John Eastham: they're Gerald Mccann: black John Eastham: always black, Gerald Mccann: or John Eastham: yeah, Joseph Bounds: Mm Monroe Munoz: No. Gerald Mccann: yeah. Joseph Bounds: mm-mm. John Eastham: but this one could be I dunno, purple Monroe Munoz: But how Joseph Bounds: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: gonna John Eastham: or b Monroe Munoz: okay, just uh but it's uh monochrome it's Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: n it's not like John Eastham: Yeah, yeah. Joseph Bounds: No, Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Joseph Bounds: because you think, John Eastham: One colour. Joseph Bounds: why Monroe Munoz: Otherwise Joseph Bounds: not. Monroe Munoz: you will never find Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: it. John Eastham: Yeah, Gerald Mccann: Yeah John Eastham: yeah. Gerald Mccann: even we can change colours, no? Like the uh John Eastham: Oh like the phones, Gerald Mccann: like the phones John Eastham: yeah, Gerald Mccann: and these John Eastham: it Gerald Mccann: things Monroe Munoz: Cool. John Eastham: could change Gerald Mccann: we c John Eastham: colours, Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: yeah. Gerald Mccann: yeah. At least for children like Monroe Munoz: Ch Gerald Mccann: one colour and. John Eastham: Yeah. Good. Joseph Bounds: Good idea. Gerald Mccann: And it should be really small and. Joseph Bounds: Small also? Don't Gerald Mccann: Huh Joseph Bounds: you think Gerald Mccann: not so big like Joseph Bounds: No Gerald Mccann: yeah. Joseph Bounds: uh, not too much buttons or Gerald Mccann: Yeah, not Joseph Bounds: mm. Gerald Mccann: too much buttons and John Eastham: Should it be, y you know these uh remote controls where um they are what they call a universal ret remote control Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: so y you can decide that now it's the remote control for the television, then it's the remote control for the Gerald Mccann: Uh. John Eastham: the sound system, or Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: for your refrigerator whatever Joseph Bounds: Yeah, John Eastham: I dunno Joseph Bounds: that's John Eastham: if it's Or if we should have a targeted re remote control. Joseph Bounds: Okay. So, John Eastham: So Joseph Bounds: I John Eastham: colour, Joseph Bounds: think John Eastham: robustness, Joseph Bounds: there's John Eastham: easy to use, size, yeah, size matters, Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: yeah. Gerald Mccann: Colour, size, Joseph Bounds: So Gerald Mccann: sh Joseph Bounds: you you think it's better if small than bigger. Gerald Mccann: Yeah, John Eastham: Mm. Gerald Mccann: maybe at least n not bigger than this I Monroe Munoz: Yeah, Gerald Mccann: guess. Monroe Munoz: but without any extremes like n not of this size, Joseph Bounds: No, Monroe Munoz: not Gerald Mccann: Yeah Joseph Bounds: not Monroe Munoz: too Joseph Bounds: too Monroe Munoz: large. Gerald Mccann: yeah, Joseph Bounds: small, Monroe Munoz: Okay. Joseph Bounds: yeah. John Eastham: Yeah. Gerald Mccann: at least it should hold in your hand n properly, like. Joseph Bounds: Hmm. Monroe Munoz: Yeah, like a palm sized. Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: Mm. Monroe Munoz: Just to hold it. Joseph Bounds: Okay. John Eastham: But uh what would be different from this, from the others? I dunno if Gerald Mccann: Uh maybe we can change the colours that at least the frame. John Eastham: Yeah, at Gerald Mccann: Mm. John Eastham: least the colour Gerald Mccann: S John Eastham: would Gerald Mccann: so John Eastham: be different. Gerald Mccann: then it depends you are to Joseph Bounds: Mm. Gerald Mccann: Mm I mean you c you can easily remove the frame. John Eastham: I think one thing important for instance in this remote control if you remember when people use it they're they never find a good button in the right Gerald Mccann: Yeah, John Eastham: place. Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. Gerald Mccann: yeah. John Eastham: For some reason they they Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: they click the off button when they want to use the Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: So there's a problem in the design of that kind of remote control somehow, Joseph Bounds: Mm. John Eastham: I Joseph Bounds: So, John Eastham: dunno. Joseph Bounds: some kind of idea uh with um um cellular phone with a a screen that will tell you what Monroe Munoz: No, no Joseph Bounds: no. Monroe Munoz: screens, it's too complex. Joseph Bounds: Okay. Gerald Mccann: Mm. John Eastham: Too expensive for twelve Euro? Gerald Mccann: Too expensive, Monroe Munoz: And n Gerald Mccann: yeah. Monroe Munoz: maybe Joseph Bounds: And Monroe Munoz: not Joseph Bounds: too expensive. Monroe Munoz: too expensive, well it's not my problem, but well John Eastham: Ah. Monroe Munoz: okay. But no screens on remote controls. John Eastham: Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm. John Eastham: I thought it could be only a screen which would change depending on uh uh the use or even the user. So ma Monroe Munoz: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: I prefer to have the off button at the top right, Gerald Mccann: Ye yeah. John Eastham: so I would have my own design of the remote control because it's in fact just a a full touch Gerald Mccann: Hmm. John Eastham: screen remote control, if you if you like. Gerald Mccann: I mean it John Eastham: I don't Gerald Mccann: it's John Eastham: know if Gerald Mccann: like John Eastham: it makes sense, but Joseph Bounds: Mm-mm. Gerald Mccann: it's like two types no? people are right handed or left handed so y because John Eastham: Yeah, Gerald Mccann: I am left John Eastham: for Gerald Mccann: handed John Eastham: instance, Gerald Mccann: I use like John Eastham: mm. Gerald Mccann: this, say if you're right handed you use Monroe Munoz: Mm-hmm, Gerald Mccann: like this or Monroe Munoz: mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: Mm. Gerald Mccann: so Joseph Bounds: Mm Gerald Mccann: tha Joseph Bounds: mm mm. Gerald Mccann: your switch on and off should be Joseph Bounds: So adaptable Gerald Mccann: on yeah. Joseph Bounds: yeah Monroe Munoz: Adaptable. John Eastham: Maybe, Joseph Bounds: something John Eastham: if if Monroe Munoz: Alright, Gerald Mccann: Mm John Eastham: it's Joseph Bounds: yeah. John Eastham: possible, Monroe Munoz: good, John Eastham: yeah. Monroe Munoz: so Gerald Mccann: huh. Monroe Munoz: how many actions do we need to implement in it? Gerald Mccann: Maybe Monroe Munoz: On Gerald Mccann: I think Monroe Munoz: off? Gerald Mccann: even we can keep two switches and then John Eastham: Yeah. Gerald Mccann: we can uh only make one working. We can adapt only one switch, suppose here like we can make two switches and if I'm left-hander I use this switch to follow the main operations. Monroe Munoz: I mean if it's less than three uh then we can make it uh like a Gerald Mccann: Two. John Eastham: Three buttons you mean? Monroe Munoz: like three Joseph Bounds: Three Monroe Munoz: mental Joseph Bounds: option. Monroe Munoz: states, John Eastham: Ah. Monroe Munoz: yeah you know what I mean, we can just make it uh Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Yeah. Joseph Bounds: Um. Monroe Munoz: controlled by a brain, huh? Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: Mm-hmm, yeah, Joseph Bounds: Maybe John Eastham: sure. Joseph Bounds: if it's more, if there is a software inside that ask you three Monroe Munoz: Mm-hmm. Joseph Bounds: Hmm. If it if we want a r universal remote control that we sa like we say before it may may need more than three mm three button, three mm possibilities, Monroe Munoz: Sh John Eastham: Yeah, more than Monroe Munoz: sure, John Eastham: three Joseph Bounds: ye John Eastham: actions Monroe Munoz: sure. Gerald Mccann: Mm John Eastham: that Gerald Mccann: yeah. John Eastham: you may Joseph Bounds: yeah. John Eastham: want to do at a given time. Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: But for standard actions you usually what do you do, you change channels, you adjust volume, and nothing else. John Eastham: Yeah but for instance when you change channels you can have you can just go to the next one or go to Gerald Mccann: Mm. John Eastham: channel twenty five. Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Joseph Bounds: Mm. John Eastham: And that's already more complex to go to channel twenty Monroe Munoz: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: five. Monroe Munoz: You do this? Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: Uh no. Monroe Munoz: I usually just change channels. John Eastham: Because I'm only using three or four channels but Gerald Mccann: Yeah. But they keep generally their t slash slash uh this thing and then the dash dash and then you can put Joseph Bounds: Yeah. Gerald Mccann: yeah, Joseph Bounds: I Gerald Mccann: you can only Joseph Bounds: change Gerald Mccann: have one Joseph Bounds: channel Gerald Mccann: bit. Joseph Bounds: like this, m Gerald Mccann: Dash. Joseph Bounds: uh I want to go to twenty five, and then to John Eastham: And Joseph Bounds: ten, John Eastham: then back Joseph Bounds: uh-huh John Eastham: to the Joseph Bounds: mm John Eastham: one Joseph Bounds: yeah. John Eastham: I was before, Joseph Bounds: Also John Eastham: so there's Joseph Bounds: we can be Monroe Munoz: Uh-huh. John Eastham: whichever Gerald Mccann: Yeah Joseph Bounds: here Gerald Mccann: you John Eastham: it Gerald Mccann: can John Eastham: was. Gerald Mccann: yeah. Joseph Bounds: yeah, that would Monroe Munoz: Go Joseph Bounds: be Monroe Munoz: back Joseph Bounds: cool. Gerald Mccann: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: button John Eastham: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: is John Eastham: Uh Monroe Munoz: good. John Eastham: uh we had that Monroe Munoz: I once John Eastham: in Monroe Munoz: had Gerald Mccann: Yeah John Eastham: in Gerald Mccann: yeah, the Monroe Munoz: it. Gerald Mccann: previous John Eastham: other countries. Gerald Mccann: button is. Joseph Bounds: Mm John Eastham: Yeah Joseph Bounds: yeah. Monroe Munoz: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: e even the history Gerald Mccann: Uh, okay. John Eastham: so you could like uh undo Monroe Munoz: History. Gerald Mccann: Oh uh. John Eastham: previous of the previous. Then you can watch Gerald Mccann: Uh. John Eastham: what your ah you could also record your Gerald Mccann: Yeah. John Eastham: record your sequence of actions, that becomes more complex, but you could look at what uh the other people have used Gerald Mccann: Yeah yeah, John Eastham: there Gerald Mccann: what the John Eastham: or Joseph Bounds: Mm-mm. Gerald Mccann: which channels John Eastham: remote controls. Gerald Mccann: the viewer John Eastham: Yeah maybe Joseph Bounds: Okay. John Eastham: it's a Joseph Bounds: So I think we have full John Eastham: Okay. Joseph Bounds: of idea. Um we're going to meet again in thirty minutes and uh I want you to mm work on these ideas and try to make a uh the ones, make um to decide what what are the ones important and what are the one that we don't want. And um m maybe more in the technical parts what uh do we want to do. Um. So um your personal coach will send you some instruction for for this thirty minutes. John Eastham: So what does M_E_ means? M_E_ the user requirements? Or that's uh that's for us? Monroe Munoz: Market Expert. Gerald Mccann: Marketing Joseph Bounds: Mm. John Eastham: Uh that's John Eastham. Gerald Mccann: yeah. John Eastham: Oh, of course yeah, the user requirement specifications, uh-huh, Joseph Bounds: Mm-hmm. John Eastham: yeah. Okay. Joseph Bounds: Mm John Eastham: I'll Joseph Bounds: okay. John Eastham: think of that. Joseph Bounds: So. John Eastham: So? Joseph Bounds: I think that's all. John Eastham: Meeting's over? Great. Joseph Bounds: Yeah. Monroe Munoz: Okay. Gerald Mccann: Thank you. John Eastham: Thank you. Monroe Munoz: Thank Joseph Bounds: See Monroe Munoz: you everybody. Joseph Bounds: you in thirty minutes.

Joseph Bounds opened the meeting and introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which each team member drew his favorite animal and discussed why he liked the particular animal. After the drawing exercise, Joseph Bounds discussed selling prices and production costs for the remote the team will design. Joseph Bounds also indicated that the remote will be sold internationally and that two million remotes are expected to be sold. The team then discussed their experiences using remotes in the past and what features to consider implementing in the remote they will produce. The team members discussed child proof capabilities, color options, how to adapt a remote for left-handed users, a "go back" function, the size of a remote, buttons, and LCD screens. Joseph Bounds closed the meeting and gave the team members their assignments and then one of the team members briefly went over his role on the team.

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Tyler Tantillo: Okay, so now we are on the conceptual design meeting. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. Tyler Tantillo: Uh y getting close to the last is the penultim meeting. Kevin Contreras: How was lunch? Tyler Tantillo: Mm great. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Thanks Don't be sarcastic Mark. Tyler Tantillo: So um I will again do the secretary part uh we will have three presentation first um uh the Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh Tyler Tantillo: industrial Eugene Kleinschmidt: Rama. Tyler Tantillo: design, William Clauss: Ramaro. Tyler Tantillo: first Rama then Mark and then Sammy. Um um we have to take a decision on the control remote control concepts and we have forty minutes. Kevin Contreras: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: So what we want to the decision we want to take this meeting on the um first on the component concept, so what kind of energy we use uh what kind of chip on print and one ki kind of case. And also on user interface concept uh what kind of interface we use and if there is some supplements. And at the end um Sammy will give um a trend watching on what he's he's been doing. It's So, let's go. First with Rama. Tyler Tantillo: Participant two. William Clauss: Yeah, participant two. Component. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: Yep. So we're to mainly design f mainly need to know which components we'll use for energy, and the material and interface. For energy there are maybe two or three possibilities. First one, we can use simple battery, or we can use traditional solar cells or mm and the material we can have plastic, rubber which is good for this R_S_A_ Eugene Kleinschmidt: Ah. William Clauss: and then uh titanium, which can be which have very good look an and then interface we're to use push buttons or liquid crystal d L_C_D_ display. And we can use some, moving kind of thing. So, as we discussed before, we need to we would like to have some speech recognition s chip in our remote control. So this can be simple kind of programmable chip and which can use microphone sensors. And we also want to look at our remote control, so. Still we are looking for possible uh technical uh specifications and how w easy we can do and within our pri range, like we're to in our twelve Euros or around that. So we are looking for simple devices or simple technology to do the location of remote control in a room Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm, William Clauss: or Tyler Tantillo: okay. William Clauss: in a house. So uh we discussed an Excuse Eugene Kleinschmidt. So we would like to propose battery instead of solar cells and it would be problematic uh to have Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: enough energy with the solar cells and so we would like to just use simple battery. And also we want to go for titanium design instead of rubber or and well the problem is with this design we found that we can't use double-curved shapes. Eugene Kleinschmidt: What is a double-curved shape? William Clauss: Like you can have two curves. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh-huh. Kevin Contreras: Why? William Clauss: Uh it's I think in manufacturing I guess it's problematic. So, we want to go for simple push buttons because it need a simple chip and it's really lesser uh re really less expensive compared to L_C_D_ which are uh which needs advanced chip technology and it's more expensive, since we Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: want to put some other features such as speech recognition we want to reduce uh Eugene Kleinschmidt: The cost. Tyler Tantillo: Um I want William Clauss: cost. Tyler Tantillo: to know why it b uh just uh sorry but for the point before uh William Clauss: Uh Tyler Tantillo: why not the rubber, if William Clauss: Uh Tyler Tantillo: it is something that it seems to be William Clauss: And also Tyler Tantillo: light. William Clauss: like in if you put a it's be difficult to do all the moulding of buttons and these things Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: and Tyler Tantillo: You m titanium it's more uh William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: W we can use something like you know the whole body's titanium but there are some rubber or I dunno some rubber parts like Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm like William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: this? Tyler Tantillo: Yes Kevin Contreras: to make it Tyler Tantillo: so Kevin Contreras: feel better Tyler Tantillo: mm Kevin Contreras: and to you know William Clauss: Like in cell phones recently Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: these Tyler Tantillo: Uh-huh. Kevin Contreras: Yeah. William Clauss: you can Kevin Contreras: Yeah. William Clauss: with the rubber in four directions Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: and yeah. But full assembly We'll use mainly for titanium Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: rubber is expensive Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: and also it's bit difficult to do all the shapes Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: uh. And this push Tyler Tantillo: Uh William Clauss: buttons Tyler Tantillo: yeah William Clauss: we Tyler Tantillo: so William Clauss: we would like to use push buttons instead of L_C_D_s and so we want to mo I mean we're we want to put speech recognition so we want to reduce price on this technology and so that we can have Tyler Tantillo: Okay, William Clauss: enough space Tyler Tantillo: s so William Clauss: or enough money Tyler Tantillo: simple William Clauss: for Tyler Tantillo: button and uh William Clauss: S Tyler Tantillo: speech William Clauss: S Eugene Kleinschmidt: Speech Tyler Tantillo: recognition for the more complicated. William Clauss: Y Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: yeah we have simple buttons and speech recognition technology, Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Kevin Contreras: Okay, William Clauss: so Kevin Contreras: and still we have mm can we still include the L_ L_S_D_ display? Eugene Kleinschmidt: L_C_D_. Kevin Contreras: L_C_D_ yeah L_C_D_. William Clauss: Uh l Eugene Kleinschmidt: Seems not, it's either William Clauss: So Eugene Kleinschmidt: L_C_D_ William Clauss: uh Eugene Kleinschmidt: or push-button. William Clauss: it's Kevin Contreras: No, William Clauss: like Kevin Contreras: it's William Clauss: a Kevin Contreras: not gonna be a t no touchable but still like a source of information or source for menus. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Ah. William Clauss: Yeah maybe maybe we can see depending on how we'll come up with our full design then if we have enough money or like for Kevin Contreras: Okay, William Clauss: and Kevin Contreras: so William Clauss: because Kevin Contreras: try William Clauss: the Kevin Contreras: it, William Clauss: speech Kevin Contreras: let's t William Clauss: recognition technology will take at least five Euros or or something so Eugene Kleinschmidt: The William Clauss: we want to reduce Eugene Kleinschmidt: L_C_D_ William Clauss: the Eugene Kleinschmidt: would William Clauss: cost on display or this Eugene Kleinschmidt: The display William Clauss: inter Eugene Kleinschmidt: would only be display and not uh Kevin Contreras: Yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: touch sensitive Kevin Contreras: yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: you mean. Kevin Contreras: it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: Just Kevin Contreras: it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh Kevin Contreras: not Eugene Kleinschmidt: for Kevin Contreras: gonna Eugene Kleinschmidt: output, Kevin Contreras: be a touch pad, uh just Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah. Kevin Contreras: a display for Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. William Clauss: Ok Kevin Contreras: giving you information. William Clauss: Yeah, that Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: can we we can consider, because like it won't take Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: much money I guess, because Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: Okay, yep. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. William Clauss: You have any further questions or? Eugene Kleinschmidt: I guess no um. So the batteries uh are William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: going to be very light. William Clauss: Yeah, we're to go for li and now I think we have many options in the market so we can Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay William Clauss: go for small Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: nickel or Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: alkaline batteries for really light batteries and with uh good price. Eugene Kleinschmidt: So this device on n that can be used for speech recognition could also be used for just uh the finding it basically, instead of clapping why not William Clauss: Yeah, that's Eugene Kleinschmidt: just be William Clauss: then the Eugene Kleinschmidt: ask. William Clauss: the one thing we want to know is like because remote control is used for like in the household so it it it will be it m maybe at least five, six people want to use it so Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: so how to uh uh how to define our re speech recognition whether we want to do s speaker independent or speaker dependent. If we're going for more speaker independent then it would be like again cumbersome and we need really m more technology and Tyler Tantillo: Okay, for William Clauss: so Tyler Tantillo: the location. William Clauss: Yeah, if Tyler Tantillo: Hmm. William Clauss: if everybody in the house n to locate then we're to go for some speaker independent technology or Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. William Clauss: something. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. So let's now go to the you don't have more Eugene Kleinschmidt: No, Tyler Tantillo: question? Eugene Kleinschmidt: it's okay. Kevin Contreras: No more Tyler Tantillo: Um Kevin Contreras: questions. William Clauss: Yep. Thank Tyler Tantillo: mm William Clauss: you. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Puts less of constraint Tyler Tantillo: thank you Eugene Kleinschmidt: on Tyler Tantillo: mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: what we can do but Kevin Contreras: Mm yeah, Tyler Tantillo: Yeah. William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: it's always like that. We have dreams and the in the end we find out that it's not feasible. Tyler Tantillo: Yeah, William Clauss: Oh. Tyler Tantillo: but Eugene Kleinschmidt: Anyway. William Clauss: We Tyler Tantillo: mm. William Clauss: have uh some limitations. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: But still uh L_S_D_'s already Eugene Kleinschmidt: L_C_D_. Kevin Contreras: quite nice, Eugene Kleinschmidt: L_S_D_ Kevin Contreras: L_C_ Eugene Kleinschmidt: is something else, and it's quite nice Kevin Contreras: I'm Eugene Kleinschmidt: as Kevin Contreras: an Eugene Kleinschmidt: well. Kevin Contreras: artist, sorry. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: So, Kevin Contreras: So uh, that's Tyler Tantillo: Um Eugene Kleinschmidt: go Kevin Contreras: not Eugene Kleinschmidt: on uh Kevin Contreras: I hope Eugene Kleinschmidt: artist. Kevin Contreras: that's not too much. Tyler Tantillo: yeah. Now Kevin Contreras: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: let's talk about uh interface. Kevin Contreras: Uh participant number three. Tyler Tantillo: Three. William Clauss: Three. Kevin Contreras: Uh Tyler Tantillo: Which one? Eugene Kleinschmidt: Hmm. Kevin Contreras: mm mm uh have a look at this no it's yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Kevin Contreras: Uh so the concept of the interface. Generally I developed quite a broad concept not only for the interface, but for possible instruction or user's manual and uh all the complex things that come together with your T_V_ and remote controls. So let's start with this. We got our perfect remote control with a lot of buttons and uh we got explanation for every button and you can use your time and uh it will take i some days to learn all this buttons and um the L_C_D_ is going to be somewhere here and uh go back button, I don't know really where it is, maybe one of this buttons, and um power on and off mm I Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Kevin Contreras: I don't remember so uh it it it should be maybe this button is power on and off? Or no? I can see nothing. So that's our concept. It's called the millennium remote control. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Let's change millenniums. Kevin Contreras: Yeah. William Clauss: So maybe you can use in the end Eugene Kleinschmidt: doesn't William Clauss: and Eugene Kleinschmidt: make sense. This is very Kevin Contreras: Really? I Eugene Kleinschmidt: ugly. Kevin Contreras: thought you like it. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Oh no, Kevin Contreras: Ah okay just press Eugene Kleinschmidt: too much Kevin Contreras: the button, Eugene Kleinschmidt: concept. Kevin Contreras: please uh. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Ah. Tyler Tantillo: No. William Clauss: Uh Kevin Contreras: Yeah, we will not use this. We will not use this. But instead of this I will devise Eugene Kleinschmidt: Ah, Kevin Contreras: That's Eugene Kleinschmidt: back Kevin Contreras: our Eugene Kleinschmidt: today. Kevin Contreras: concept. And it's got just few buttons, quite low looking, and all this stuff we already we already discussed. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. 'Kay. Kevin Contreras: And uh what will people say? They'll say it's perfect. Or what will say? Uh they will say it's splendid. And uh e everyone will say I'll buy it. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Contreras: And everyone's gonna be satisfied. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Do you think it can come in several colours? Or did the Kevin Contreras: I would make a backlight of the L_C_D_ screen with different colours. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Um but not the case. Kevin Contreras: Not the case. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh the case would only be in that uh aluminium uh titanium stuff, like Kevin Contreras: Yeah. William Clauss: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: Because apparently from your survey people like colours, no? Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah, William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: well they like uh something which is Kevin Contreras: Okay, Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh Kevin Contreras: so let's remember there's a Nokia phone which changeable panels. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm yeah, okay, so that would Kevin Contreras: Do you Eugene Kleinschmidt: be Kevin Contreras: like it? Eugene Kleinschmidt: the option. I don't know I don't have a Nokia phone, but William Clauss: But it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: I William Clauss: uh Eugene Kleinschmidt: don't use that but again, uh Kevin Contreras: That's why you Eugene Kleinschmidt: I Kevin Contreras: don't Eugene Kleinschmidt: might Kevin Contreras: have it. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah, Kevin Contreras: That's Eugene Kleinschmidt: bu Kevin Contreras: why, 'cause Eugene Kleinschmidt: but Kevin Contreras: it's nasty. William Clauss: But it would be expensive, no? If you use colour L_C_D_. Kevin Contreras: No. William Clauss: Uh instead of that maybe we can change the colour of Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: the assembler. Maybe we can just if users want more colours they can pay more money to get this uh the shapes and they can have different assembly. Kevin Contreras: Um, I am here. William Clauss: So Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: users have different I mean they have their own interests, colour interests and so Tyler Tantillo: So? Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: So we can just if they want they can just pay another two Tyler Tantillo: Uh-huh, Kevin Contreras: 'Kay. Tyler Tantillo: okay, William Clauss: Euro. Tyler Tantillo: so you you propose something with option William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: i that increase the price if we William Clauss: Yeah yeah yes. Tyler Tantillo: if William Clauss: If Tyler Tantillo: you want William Clauss: they want like Tyler Tantillo: o William Clauss: uh so Tyler Tantillo: more William Clauss: that we Tyler Tantillo: colours William Clauss: can Tyler Tantillo: on Eugene Kleinschmidt: Kind William Clauss: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: of Tyler Tantillo: L_C_D_, Eugene Kleinschmidt: upgradable uh Tyler Tantillo: yeah. William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: remote control. Wow, Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: wow. William Clauss: Just they'll get few more things and Kevin Contreras: Okay, William Clauss: few more colours. Kevin Contreras: what uh there's one more decisi uh one more solution in fact, um 'cause there are some some paints that can change colour according to where they are, like they can reflect different colours William Clauss: Lights, yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: And Kevin Contreras: depending Tyler Tantillo: thermodynamic Kevin Contreras: on what is around, Tyler Tantillo: also. Kevin Contreras: like William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: what Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Contreras: colour Eugene Kleinschmidt: Like Kevin Contreras: is Eugene Kleinschmidt: a Kevin Contreras: around, Eugene Kleinschmidt: chameleon. Kevin Contreras: and depending on the temperature, yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: Yeah yeah. Kevin Contreras: We can make it in fact. Tyler Tantillo: Yeah William Clauss: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: but that's Kevin Contreras: If Tyler Tantillo: maybe Kevin Contreras: if if Tyler Tantillo: mo Kevin Contreras: the Tyler Tantillo: too much expensive, Kevin Contreras: okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. Tyler Tantillo: yeah. But uh it can be in uh maybe in an a gradable Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm, Tyler Tantillo: version, William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: mm-hmm, Tyler Tantillo: but Eugene Kleinschmidt: Because Kevin Contreras: so Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh I think there are two kinds of people. Those for which the remote control is uh is to be uh something useful uh I'm going to talk about this later but and those for which is something that that that uh is uh specific to them so it it's like a signature. My remote control is pink. Nobody else than Eugene Kleinschmidt has a pink remote control. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Contreras: Uh-huh. Eugene Kleinschmidt: And that makes Eugene Kleinschmidt special. Tyler Tantillo: Okay and you think that we don't have to make to make them pay more because of uh o Eugene Kleinschmidt: I Tyler Tantillo: or Eugene Kleinschmidt: think I think Tyler Tantillo: this Eugene Kleinschmidt: they Tyler Tantillo: is Eugene Kleinschmidt: would be ready p ready to pay more for that. Tyler Tantillo: Okay, so Eugene Kleinschmidt: Those who wanted to have Tyler Tantillo: so Eugene Kleinschmidt: it pink. Tyler Tantillo: i William Clauss: Uh Tyler Tantillo: it's not uh a s base Eugene Kleinschmidt: No Tyler Tantillo: service William Clauss: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: mm Tyler Tantillo: it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: no. Kevin Contreras: So, Tyler Tantillo: a Kevin Contreras: be an option, yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: It might be optional, Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah. William Clauss: will be really few, no? So like we Eugene Kleinschmidt: The William Clauss: can Eugene Kleinschmidt: the young William Clauss: those Eugene Kleinschmidt: people the young people want to be different from their friends. William Clauss: Ah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Although similar but have Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: something William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: just slightly better. Pink Tyler Tantillo: So William Clauss: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: m so maybe that's if that it's a selling point Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: maybe Kevin Contreras: Yeah, Tyler Tantillo: it has Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: yeah, Tyler Tantillo: to be the base. Kevin Contreras: yeah. But you know if you want to be different you just take your remote control with you all the time. And Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah, Kevin Contreras: it Tyler Tantillo: And Kevin Contreras: makes Tyler Tantillo: you'll Kevin Contreras: you different, Tyler Tantillo: be Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah. Kevin Contreras: you Eugene Kleinschmidt: You always Kevin Contreras: know? Tyler Tantillo: different. Eugene Kleinschmidt: have your Tyler Tantillo: Uh Eugene Kleinschmidt: remote. Oh, Kevin Contreras: Anyone Eugene Kleinschmidt: you don't? Kevin Contreras: has their remote controls Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: here? Eugene Kleinschmidt: You Tyler Tantillo: in Kevin Contreras: No? Tyler Tantillo: the Eugene Kleinschmidt: don't Tyler Tantillo: train Eugene Kleinschmidt: have your remo Tyler Tantillo: uh, hello uh no. Want to change Eugene Kleinschmidt: Wh you Tyler Tantillo: my Eugene Kleinschmidt: you Tyler Tantillo: neighbour. Eugene Kleinschmidt: know like for instance take the iPod. It's a kind of remote control. Uh it's white Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: and it's so white that you see it from any anywhere. It Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: has this distinctive look and feel and look which people seems to like Kevin Contreras: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: just because it's a colour that we don't usually see in a remote control. White. Kevin Contreras: Uh-huh, Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Contreras: uh-huh. Could Eugene Kleinschmidt: Seems Kevin Contreras: we integrate Eugene Kleinschmidt: important. Kevin Contreras: something into our remote control, something like light? William Clauss: Hmm. Kevin Contreras: That they can use it in darkness, like. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm Kevin Contreras: Hand Eugene Kleinschmidt: glow Kevin Contreras: light, Eugene Kleinschmidt: in the dark, Kevin Contreras: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: so William Clauss: Yeah maybe like the infrared like we can put some Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: radium chips or something so that like at least um yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Iradium? Kevin Contreras: Okay. William Clauss: Yeah, Tyler Tantillo: Ah Kevin Contreras: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: sorry. William Clauss: that Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. Kevin Contreras: Okay. S Tyler Tantillo: So mm Kevin Contreras: well, let's go on maybe Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: with the presentation. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh-huh, Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah sure. Kevin Contreras: And um William Clauss: Oh. Kevin Contreras: the remote control's going to be smart but how smart should it be to not to complicate things too much? And uh I dunno that's a question to you and to mm Eugene Kleinschmidt: Well so I Kevin Contreras: to Eugene Kleinschmidt: heard that uh it seems that speech recognition is something that can be done uh so that's the smartness of the thing. Currently Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: we don't have guns with speech recognition or uh beer cans with speech recognition but we may have remote controls with speech recognition. Kevin Contreras: Okay, Eugene Kleinschmidt: I Kevin Contreras: okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: dunno. Tyler Tantillo: Mm, Kevin Contreras: So Tyler Tantillo: that's Kevin Contreras: just Tyler Tantillo: a nice Kevin Contreras: just Tyler Tantillo: world. Kevin Contreras: just just think about it um. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Don't touch the remote. Kevin Contreras: Thank you. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: But yeah. Are are you saying here that uh the remote controls should be aware of who is using it? So for instance the young guy would not be able to use it because his father doesn't want. Kevin Contreras: Uh yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: Like with Kevin Contreras: I just Eugene Kleinschmidt: some Kevin Contreras: want to say it should be real Eugene Kleinschmidt: Maybe Kevin Contreras: smart. Eugene Kleinschmidt: fingerprint recognition or Kevin Contreras: Voice recognition is quite tough. I say don't use it, and the control just looks. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm. William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: 'Cause I Eugene Kleinschmidt: Um Kevin Contreras: ordered jus Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm. William Clauss: Uh Kevin Contreras: To l William Clauss: that Kevin Contreras: to l lock it. William Clauss: mm that could be feasible I guess, like Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. William Clauss: So since we have we want to do some speaker dependent speech recognition uh so Eugene Kleinschmidt: So it could William Clauss: we Eugene Kleinschmidt: be William Clauss: can use yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: smart in that William Clauss: Yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: way. William Clauss: yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: But for instance th I I'm thinking about the other uh uh particularity that the the remote control could have. S since it it knows who is using it, it might also record the kind of uh channels you are u more often using and William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh levels of volumes that you're more often uh Kevin Contreras: Yeah, sure. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: things like that William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: and provide you ways of using them, I dunno, somehow, I dunno, William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: that might be expensive but Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: Uh it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: that might also be a good sales pitch again. William Clauss: Hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: The remote that knows you. Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Kevin Contreras: Okay, thanks. Tyler Tantillo: So Eugene Kleinschmidt: My turn? Tyler Tantillo: it's yeah, Marketing Expert. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay, it's alright. Tyler Tantillo: Participant William Clauss: Four. Tyler Tantillo: two? Four, Eugene Kleinschmidt: Four, I think. Tyler Tantillo: sorry. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Trend, yeah. No uh yes. Okay, so I'm going to talk about trends and um I hope this can help us to to understand l how we should design our remote control. So, next slide please. So first maybe just a small recap on how how do we watch trends so it's not so uh simple you might think that it's easy but uh it's not so simple. Anyway these days uh the best uh source of information is the web as you know, so have to to go often on the web and look at uh what the others are doing, and ask real people who are using real remote controls every day uh or any other tool that is similar to a remote control which basically is a small device that people have with them, always, like a phone. We can we can use the phone as a as a good uh uh example of where to in be inspired. Of course those tha d who are watching the trends are also have also to be inspired because in fact they're not only watching the trends, they're inventing it, they're creating the trend. I hope I'm going to try to help you on that. This is more risky because you're not following the trend, you try to invent it, which means either you succeed and you make a lot of money or you don't and you're out of business. So anyway uh next slide please. Uh to be to be quick there's a lot of words here but uh basically there are uh in in the market of of remote controls there are three aspects that we should very pay much attention to. The first one, which seems to be the most important one, is that it has to be fancy, it has to have a fancy look and feel. And uh interestingly this is the very most important thing. It has to be fancy. Strangely enough it's more important to be fancy than to be wi and now that's the second thing it has to be, it has to be technologically i innovative, it has to be new with some of uh new uh technology inside and uh and this is also uh more important than the last thing which we w may think that would have been the most important, which is that it should be easy to use and it should be easy to use as a remote control. So as you see uh it first have to be very nice, s something that people are proud of uh uh that i uh they can be William Clauss identified with uh and and then uh something that um contains very novel stuff that they can talk about with their friends, huh, mine has this and not yours. And finally of course it has to be useful as a remote control but it seems that it's not so important that it's useful as a remote control. Next slide please. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh and now in a more uh general uh uh broad way of seeing th uh the thing. If we look back and not uh look at only remote controls I think it's important to see that the trends are quite the same in many areas so currently the the trends that we see in l in l big cities like Paris and Milan, well, it seems that this year things should have uh a fruit and vegetable uh way of of look or feel or so. And I think of course uh i it applies to everything. That's the thing with trends. It it can travel f from clothe to furniture same idea. Fruit and vegetable. Think fruit and vegetable. And uh if we co we compare to last year, now it has to be spongy, William Clauss: Mm. Kevin Contreras: What is Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah. Kevin Contreras: spongy? Eugene Kleinschmidt: Well this William Clauss: Yeah kind of Eugene Kleinschmidt: so William Clauss: um maybe Eugene Kleinschmidt: so I think uh uh i When we were talking about rubber, I think William Clauss: Yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh William Clauss: it Eugene Kleinschmidt: the rubber aspect might be important because it's what is Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: probably William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: more feasible Tyler Tantillo: S Eugene Kleinschmidt: in terms of sponginess. William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: So maybe titanium it's not a good idea. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Seems not, seems not. William Clauss: We need to think about mm Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. So Tyler Tantillo: Um sorry Mark. It seems Eugene Kleinschmidt: Think Tyler Tantillo: to Eugene Kleinschmidt: more Tyler Tantillo: be Eugene Kleinschmidt: of uh something in the colours of uh like fruit William Clauss: Fruit. Eugene Kleinschmidt: and vegetables and spongy, William Clauss: Even Eugene Kleinschmidt: as a William Clauss: shape? Eugene Kleinschmidt: even in the shape it has to be more round and uh William Clauss: More Eugene Kleinschmidt: more uh Tyler Tantillo: Mm-mm. William Clauss: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: uh look natural William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: somehow. I mean And not those futuristic uh remote control with angles and uh Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: and titanium like. William Clauss: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: So that's Tyler Tantillo: Hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: what people seem to yeah i I know Tyler Tantillo: You're Eugene Kleinschmidt: it's Tyler Tantillo: old-fashioned. Eugene Kleinschmidt: quite Tyler Tantillo: Sorry. Eugene Kleinschmidt: far from what you thought but that's that's fashion and Kevin Contreras: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay that's all I have to say. Tyler Tantillo: Mm you have questions? William Clauss: So these abilities are mainly ad addressed by young people? Or it's Eugene Kleinschmidt: These I'm sorry. William Clauss: This you you so did Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah, William Clauss: you Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah we have people uh uh listening William Clauss: Where? Eugene Kleinschmidt: to the trends everywhere in William Clauss: Oh. Eugene Kleinschmidt: the world, of course, William Clauss: Oh, okay, Eugene Kleinschmidt: as you know our company is quite big William Clauss: mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: and uh so I'm William Clauss: It's Eugene Kleinschmidt: just William Clauss: not from Eugene Kleinschmidt: asking them William Clauss: mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: what are the current trends William Clauss: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: according to them when they go in the stores and William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: when they ask uh their uh friends that are William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: also William Clauss: It's more general Eugene Kleinschmidt: well. William Clauss: trend it's not particular to the remote Eugene Kleinschmidt: No, William Clauss: control. Eugene Kleinschmidt: it's not it's not this this is very general, yeah. But it seems that trends travel William Clauss: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: across things. William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: The what we William Clauss: Yeah but some materials n they're to be uh they're to be something like solid like they can't be really Eugene Kleinschmidt: Sure. William Clauss: spongy or Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. We William Clauss: yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: have to I William Clauss: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: think we have to have the look of William Clauss: yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: fruit William Clauss: yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: and vegetables William Clauss: sponge, yeah yeah at least Eugene Kleinschmidt: but William Clauss: that's Eugene Kleinschmidt: we still have to put our chips inside, so William Clauss: Yeah yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: of course. This is your problem. William Clauss: that yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: This is not mine. William Clauss: yeah. Yeah. Yeah, looking yeah fruit. These things can be easily incorporated. We can Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah, William Clauss: have Eugene Kleinschmidt: I think in William Clauss: t Eugene Kleinschmidt: the William Clauss: colours Eugene Kleinschmidt: colours and William Clauss: or Eugene Kleinschmidt: in the uh the kind of William Clauss: this Eugene Kleinschmidt: material. William Clauss: shape or at least Eugene Kleinschmidt: If William Clauss: yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: if it's something like rubber made or William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: I think it it's Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: also going to be good. William Clauss: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay? William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. No more question? Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yep. Thanks. Tyler Tantillo: So Mm-hmm. Okay, so we will have uh next meeting in thirty minutes again. Um now you have to go straight on this individual action which i which are for Rama uh William Clauss: Look Tyler Tantillo: wil William Clauss: and feel de Tyler Tantillo: design, um Mark the user interface design, and uh Sammy uh the product evaluation. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm-hmm. Tyler Tantillo: Uh you will work together uh William Clauss: Hmm. Tyler Tantillo: on a new on on a prototype using modelling clay. William Clauss: Hmm. Mm sounds interesting. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm um and I as always your personal coach will send you specific instruction. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. Kevin Contreras: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Thanks. William Clauss: So, can we highlight the specific features of our Tyler Tantillo: Yeah you're right, you have William Clauss: yeah, Tyler Tantillo: to William Clauss: so so we want the speech recogniser and we want some kind of buttons and we want some themes like fruits or vegetables, that's Tyler Tantillo: So William Clauss: we Tyler Tantillo: you William Clauss: want Tyler Tantillo: say William Clauss: to follow Tyler Tantillo: s William Clauss: general trend. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Spongy. Tyler Tantillo: S William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: do we agree on that? Yeah. We have to. William Clauss: So, do you think Kevin Contreras: So we have to uh for Eugene Kleinschmidt: No, we don't have to, Tyler Tantillo: No. Eugene Kleinschmidt: but seems it's William Clauss: Hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: the trend. Again, William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: as I said we can also try to make it, Kevin Contreras: yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: to Kevin Contreras: so Eugene Kleinschmidt: create the trend. So there's William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: no Kevin Contreras: are we confident enough on creating trends? Eugene Kleinschmidt: Well, that's you t can try to convince us. Kevin Contreras: Well, we can make it smell like fruit. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: Okay, that's a good idea. William Clauss: That's Eugene Kleinschmidt: that's Tyler Tantillo: So Eugene Kleinschmidt: a Tyler Tantillo: titanium Eugene Kleinschmidt: good idea, Tyler Tantillo: smell like fruit. Eugene Kleinschmidt: I Kevin Contreras: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. William Clauss: So what about location and these things, people are really interesting on those features? Or they really like Eugene Kleinschmidt: Uh William Clauss: They more want these fancy Eugene Kleinschmidt: I think i William Clauss: features Eugene Kleinschmidt: yeah William Clauss: like Eugene Kleinschmidt: i it's again in this uh what I said first it has to be fancy so I think if nobody else pro Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: provides currently a remote control with that kind of stuff William Clauss: Feature Eugene Kleinschmidt: and if we can provide it I think it's a good sell for William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: us because we have William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: it and others don't. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: It's fancy. Whether it's useful or not doesn't seem to be very important. William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: I I agree William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: with uh this uh Now we have to decide on what kind of fanciness. Do we take titanium smelling like fruit, or do we make spongy uh William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: fruity-like William Clauss: Uh we will try to explore these two options Eugene Kleinschmidt: Maybe you William Clauss: and Eugene Kleinschmidt: could Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: explore the William Clauss: yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: two option. Tyler Tantillo: Yeah, William Clauss: yeah. Tyler Tantillo: yeah. Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Could we make a titanium shape? William Clauss: Uh Kevin Contreras: I mean William Clauss: yeah at least like we can make Kevin Contreras: fruit-shaped. William Clauss: banana or Tyler Tantillo: Don't Kevin Contreras: But Tyler Tantillo: you say that you cannot do double shape uh William Clauss: yeah Kevin Contreras: Doub Eugene Kleinschmidt: Mm. William Clauss: it's Kevin Contreras: double-curved. Tyler Tantillo: curved William Clauss: it's Tyler Tantillo: shape Eugene Kleinschmidt: Seems to William Clauss: yeah Tyler Tantillo: yeah. William Clauss: that's Eugene Kleinschmidt: be. William Clauss: a we're to look for Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Okay. William Clauss: and and Kevin Contreras: Okay, okay. William Clauss: s we're to see the whether rubber is expensive and Kevin Contreras: In William Clauss: d Kevin Contreras: fact I just agreed to make uh to make the like titanium panels on a whole rubber body. William Clauss: Hmm. Kevin Contreras: Well, okay Tyler Tantillo: Mm-mm. Kevin Contreras: w we'll Tyler Tantillo: Okay, Kevin Contreras: see. Tyler Tantillo: so you explore now that you're going to work together Kevin Contreras: Yeah William Clauss: Mm. Tyler Tantillo: these these two. Or or spongy an William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: yeah. William Clauss: Maybe we can have two different assembly also like one spongy and one kind of titanium. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. William Clauss: we have only the plastic or the Kevin Contreras: We'll see. Eugene Kleinschmidt: If William Clauss: the Eugene Kleinschmidt: you have William Clauss: chippy Eugene Kleinschmidt: time. Kevin Contreras: We'll see. William Clauss: yeah Tyler Tantillo: Mm. William Clauss: fibre chips or Tyler Tantillo: Yeah I don't think w I think we have to choose. If we choose William Clauss: Uh. Tyler Tantillo: uh titanium or if we choose spongy but uh it Kevin Contreras: We'll see. Tyler Tantillo: cannot be Kevin Contreras: I Tyler Tantillo: both. Kevin Contreras: I really don't like this modelling clay William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: 'cause you know it makes some for for I dunno Eugene Kleinschmidt: For creation. Kevin Contreras: uh yeah William Clauss: Yeah. Kevin Contreras: um we'll look. William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Ah you can pretend William Clauss: Even Tyler Tantillo: that William Clauss: design. Tyler Tantillo: it's uh titanium. Eugene Kleinschmidt: You can paint it afterward. Kevin Contreras: Okay, Eugene Kleinschmidt: No problem. We have a very large department Kevin Contreras: okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: of paint. Tyler Tantillo: Yeah, do don't worry, you you Eugene Kleinschmidt: You will do it. Tyler Tantillo: you speak with Kevin Contreras: Alright, alright. Tyler Tantillo: mm mm. Okay. So explore a shape. William Clauss: So still we want to keep L_C_D_? Or Tyler Tantillo: Mm I think it's what Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: we say, that we have an uh an L_C_D_ with uh information. William Clauss: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: Not Eugene Kleinschmidt: The thing is Tyler Tantillo: uh Eugene Kleinschmidt: that uh if we want to have as he says if we want to have uh a small number of buttons William Clauss: Yeah, then we Eugene Kleinschmidt: we William Clauss: can Eugene Kleinschmidt: need to have a kind of output that Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: says currently what their William Clauss: yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: actions are. William Clauss: yeah, that user friendly or Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: That's William Clauss: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: the converse to having zillions William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: of button where each button does only Tyler Tantillo: Mm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: one thing. William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. William Clauss: and we just stick with two batteries so it's not any solar Eugene Kleinschmidt: Yeah. William Clauss: or Eugene Kleinschmidt: Classical, William Clauss: yeah Eugene Kleinschmidt: we stay Tyler Tantillo: Yeah, Eugene Kleinschmidt: classical William Clauss: yeah Tyler Tantillo: yeah, William Clauss: j Eugene Kleinschmidt: in that Tyler Tantillo: yeah. William Clauss: yeah, because Eugene Kleinschmidt: we don't reinvent uh Tyler Tantillo: Mm. William Clauss: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: the wheel. Anyway it's very in general I think people uh change T_V_ more often than batteries of their remote control. So. Tyler Tantillo: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Because the trend goes faster than the life of the Tyler Tantillo: Mm-hmm. Kevin Contreras: Mm-hmm. Eugene Kleinschmidt: So it's very Tyler Tantillo: Okay. Eugene Kleinschmidt: Okay. Tyler Tantillo: So William Clauss: Yeah. Tyler Tantillo: are we Kevin Contreras: Yeah. Eugene Kleinschmidt: We're done. William Clauss: Yeah, Tyler Tantillo: mm. William Clauss: we're done. Tyler Tantillo: Okay. So see you in thirty minutes. William Clauss: Yep.

Tyler Tantillo stated the agenda and set the goals for the current meeting. William Clauss discussed different options for batteries, case materials and shapes, chips, and interface components and also discussed the components necessary for a speech recognition capable remote control. Kevin Contreras presented his concept for the interface design which he called the "millennium remote control". Kevin Contreras also discussed with the team color options and how to make a "smart" remote which is in tune with the user's preferences. Eugene Kleinschmidt discussed current findings from trend watching reports which indicated that there is a desire for products to have a fancy look and feel, be technologically innovative, be easy to use, incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme, and be spongy. Tyler Tantillo gave the team members their assignments and then the team went over the decisions they had made and discussed whether to use titanium or rubber in their design.

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Arthur Lucht: So we come to the third meetings. I have good. Um so in the last meeting we have discussed the functional design and now we will talk about the conceptual design. So we Clarence Yazzie: Okay Arthur Lucht: will talk about Clarence Yazzie: so Arthur Lucht: some Clarence Yazzie: I think I Arthur Lucht: specific Clarence Yazzie: will Arthur Lucht: details. Clarence Yazzie: do my presentation on the components concept so can you please uh open uh I'm participant two. Components Arthur Lucht: This Clarence Yazzie: design. Okay so uh the first thing uh I have done is to to made a review together with the uh manufactural uh department and have which components was uh available to build a remote control. So for energy sources we have we have to choose between the solar energy, hand dynamo and uh kinetic um well uh kinetic uh technique to to store the energy. We also um we also can put a regular battery in the in the remote control. Arthur Lucht: Uh Clarence Yazzie: Now Arthur Lucht: this is what we have decided in the last meeting. But if we use battery Clarence Yazzie: Yeah b uh f well uh I meant uh by by battery I meant uh I will not have a uh a wire between the remote control and the energy source but uh I didn't fou we didn't decide yet which kind of battery we will put inside the the remote. So uh it's a point to discuss. Then uh the case material we have uh uh also several choices, like wood, rubber, titanium or latex. But uh well it's not a a re uh well a real issue for the from the technical uh point of view. Concerning the interface uh we can we can put mm just simple buttons or scrolls or buttons uh much more complicated, but it also requires that the chip to process Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: the button is more complicated so. And uh this is the last point, the choice of chips. So what I have f found is that I think basic battery or kinetic uh energy uh collection is the is the better way to provide energy because I think solar energy wi won't work in a cluttered uh Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: uh environment. So um so I think we can start with these two main things. For the case uh well uh I think that uh titanium is um is a good choice because it's trendy and it's uh it's uh well it's modern and uh user are are are mm will be uh very happy to have a a a nice remote. For the interface uh I think that we can ach achieve uh all the desired functionalities by s just uh using uh rubber buttons, simple buttons and th thus this allow to use a regular chip that are uh well cheaper. Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: And s so uh we can move to the next slide. Mark Garner: Sorry. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: What is this single curved what does it mean? Clarence Yazzie: Well uh uh i i it's uh it's the the shape of the um Mark Garner: So it's Clarence Yazzie: of Mark Garner: it's Clarence Yazzie: the Mark Garner: not Clarence Yazzie: remote. You you will have the well um the the curve will fit into Mark Garner: Yo Clarence Yazzie: your Mark Garner: l Clarence Yazzie: hand when you Mark Garner: yeah. When Clarence Yazzie: grab Mark Garner: you hold Clarence Yazzie: the Mark Garner: on it, it is comfortable to hold. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. It's more confog f comfortable that if these Mark Garner: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: uh it's completely flat. Mark Garner: Yeah. And the battery, is it kind of a rechargeable or it doesn't matter? Clarence Yazzie: Yeah the um that's the point. The kinetic one is uh y you can recharge uh by the um Mark Garner: That that's what it means by Clarence Yazzie: Yeah and Mark Garner: kinetic. Clarence Yazzie: by well by just by moving the ar uh Mark Garner: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: your arm the Mark Garner: Mm-hmm. Clarence Yazzie: mm well the remote will uh accumulate energy. Mark Garner: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: But I d I don't know it's if it is feasible because I don't know if yet if Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: if the user will move enough Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: to provide Mark Garner: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: the remote um Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: all the necessary energy. Mark Garner: Yeah. We we might check with our R_ and D_ department to see if they this product Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: ready Clarence Yazzie: And Mark Garner: for market. Clarence Yazzie: yeah and so can you go to the next slide please. So and uh that's uh that summarize well what I have said. Mark Garner: Mm mm. Clarence Yazzie: So Mark Garner: Wha Clarence Yazzie: uh you're right we can uh see in our uh R_ and D_ uh Mark Garner: Ah the department. Clarence Yazzie: if the kinetic metal is sufficient Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: to provide enough energy. That's it. Mark Garner: Uh Mark Garner: So I um keep in touch with the R_ and D_ department. Clarence Yazzie: Oh yeah I take care, it's all right. Mark Garner: So the titanium case is the normal case that I'll show you some pictures that I have and you tell Jerome White whether they are titanium case or not. Clarence Yazzie: All Mark Garner: 'Cause I am Clarence Yazzie: right. Mark Garner: not very sure, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: plastic, titanium or whatever. There's another point I want to make, is that the uh well you've seen them I le na my presentation that um I point out some why buttons are not the mm not the only ways you can use Yeah. Yeah, maybe n Arthur Lucht: We will, okay. Arthur Lucht: Three. Mark Garner: Yeah. So the user interface is uh i it uses the aspect uh of a computer system, a programme which can be seen or heard or otherwise perceived by the human user and the commands and mechanism the user uses to control its operation and input data. So you s this gives you the ways to input data and we have uh we are more we emphasise more on the graphical user interface here. The idea is to represent buttons as figures, diagrams, symbols and on so you you can easily when you look at the symbols you understand what it is doing. Arthur Lucht: What's the function of this Mark Garner: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: button. Mark Garner: Yeah. So. Arthur Lucht: I think it makes the the interface really Mark Garner: Ea easy to use. So next one. Arthur Lucht: Graphical user Mark Garner: function Arthur Lucht: interface. Mark Garner: five. So I can use the button, the mouse maybe. Arthur Lucht: use of pictures. Mark Garner: Yeah. So next line. So the here are some examples. So they cluster the buttons together. They group them into col they colour them and uh they have different forms as well. Mm but this interface are kind of confusing. Uh basically there are too many buttons. Right. Next one. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: So some people are propose voice recognition and so ah by the way I receive an email from the from one our departments saying that the voice recognition has been used in the coffee machine for this by a company when you tell the you say good morning coffee machine and the machine are reply to you. Clarence Yazzie: Mm-hmm Mark Garner: So Clarence Yazzie: mm Mark Garner: I just Clarence Yazzie: mm. Mark Garner: got an email saying that. And it seems like this voice recognition technology is ready to be used so we might consider that, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Mark Garner: supposedly. Clarence Yazzie: fine. Mark Garner: The next one. Mm so somebody some people use uh some people use a spinning wheel th with the L_C_ display so instead of using the mm buttons you have a L_C_D_ screen and then there you can u you can use that as buttons, you can use that as real so so that could be an option as well. Touch screen, I mean. Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: Next one. And some people propose a scroll button. Integrated with push buttons or you may have scroll button instead of p just the push button. Like the one we have here. Uh, next one. So mm Arthur Lucht: Mm-hmm. Mark Garner: so there are a few aspects that I collected here. So s basically this deals with special users, children, handicapped people, old people, and uh mm and prog basically they are programmable, specially for children. And uh mm yeah yeah. And then they also secure uh covers, to protect uh secure and hidden programming and battery covers that will protect your settings. So But we don't have to integrate all these complicated features. I'm just saying that the currently in the market there are there are control there are remote controllers f customisable for different people. Yeah, so that's the point. The next one. And uh you see this is the one where you have the protection cover. Mm maybe useful for children, they migh you you they only see the buttons outside. And for adults wh where you have more control you can see the one inside. So the adults might wanna have a key to lock that to pr so children will not touch the button inside. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: S a good idea. Mark Garner: The next one. So this guy this is another company that provides big buttons. At I see that that is useful for old people and then you don't get it lost. But for our product we don't need a big one because you have voice recognition Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: e eventually with use. And you can call your remote controller if you don't know where it is. T_V_ remote controller where are you? And then, he will beeps and to say that I am here, for example. Is it possible? Arthur Lucht: We should Jerome White: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: include Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: speech synthesis in this case, no? Mark Garner: Uh? Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Jerome White: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: but uh as Norman say if uh there is uh already a commercial product Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: available who t who do this we we can check uh to integrate Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: it i Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: into our uh new remote control. Mark Garner: Yeah. And uh, this is another one where you can uh the the the part that's a V_ standing for the volume. So there's a up arrow and a down arrow. top on the top up arrow if Arthur Lucht: Mm-hmm. Mark Garner: you up arrow there's a V_ like as as if it's turning down so it's confusing interface, so I Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Mark Garner: wanna Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Mark Garner: avoid this kind of thing in the design. And here are is uh here is a s short summary that I summary that I compiled after the findings I found. Big buttons are convenient, voice recognition helps, push buttons, scroll buttons, spinning wheels can be used as navigation tools. And uh user customisable is important and finally simplicity simplicity is the key. Yeah. So we have many concepts Clarence Yazzie: Hmm. Mark Garner: there but we have to choose later on Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: which ones are important to be used. And basically Clarence Yazzie: Well I Mark Garner: uh Clarence Yazzie: I think you it's it's it's fine you have uh reviewed all all the Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: possibilities but uh uh well uh i if we consider that uh the user interface is displayed on the T_V_ screen Mark Garner: Mm-hmm. Clarence Yazzie: I don't think we nee uh we need much buttons in the remote since we Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: we just have to navigate and to have a okay or enter key or Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: things like that, because uh adding wheels or scrolls uh makes the thing more complicated and more Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: expensive also, so. Mark Garner: Okay. Arthur Lucht: Or maybe we can include the user manual in the in the remote control and we should have just a button like help and you say uh and you ik you press the button help and maybe you see the the user Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: m Clarence Yazzie: That's Arthur Lucht: might Clarence Yazzie: a good Arthur Lucht: in Clarence Yazzie: idea. Arthur Lucht: the in the T_V_. Clarence Yazzie: To have a help button. Mark Garner: A help button. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: So you are display on the screen. Clarence Yazzie: On Arthur Lucht: On Mark Garner: So Clarence Yazzie: the T_V_ Arthur Lucht: T_V_ Clarence Yazzie: screen. On Mark Garner: on Clarence Yazzie: the Mark Garner: the Clarence Yazzie: T_V_ Mark Garner: T_V_ Arthur Lucht: T_V_ Mark Garner: screen. Clarence Yazzie: screen Arthur Lucht: screen. Clarence Yazzie: the Arthur Lucht: So Clarence Yazzie: uh Arthur Lucht: just you Mark Garner: Okay. Arthur Lucht: push Clarence Yazzie: how to Arthur Lucht: the Clarence Yazzie: use Arthur Lucht: button Clarence Yazzie: your Arthur Lucht: and Clarence Yazzie: remote. Mark Garner: Okay. Arthur Lucht: we will Jerome White: Oh. Mark Garner: Okay. So that eliminates all the complicated documentation, Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: okay. So Jerome White: But Mark Garner: wi Jerome White: people are often enough looking at the help, once they see Arthur Lucht: If Jerome White: the Arthur Lucht: the Jerome White: help Arthur Lucht: if Jerome White: button they say oh this is a complicated stuff. Arthur Lucht: No In the case Clarence Yazzie: Uh Arthur Lucht: where Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Arthur Lucht: they need help, Jerome White: It's a psychology. Arthur Lucht: in the case where they need Clarence Yazzie: In a marketing Arthur Lucht: help. Clarence Yazzie: point Jerome White: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: of view. Jerome White: And Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: let us see what the market demands. We could Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Jerome White: just go to my presentation. Clarence Yazzie: But uh wel well I Arthur Lucht: It's Clarence Yazzie: think Arthur Lucht: just for user customizable, Jerome White: Yeah that's Arthur Lucht: for Jerome White: right. Arthur Lucht: kids or old people. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: I mean Arthur Lucht: So Jerome White: it just showed us the remote with an cap which could be used for kids and if you remove the Arthur Lucht: So it's the same Jerome White: Same remote with some Arthur Lucht: Can be used by both Jerome White: Both Arthur Lucht: kids Jerome White: yeah. Arthur Lucht: and Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: old people. Mark Garner: Well uh what I s propose is that uh you know a remote controller, i it could be a cube, is uh a small device that uh looks like a cube and maybe you can just change the um the buttons, if you ch turn one side you get one one buttons, you turn the other side you get the other buttons, so for maybe new generation people who get used to the computer they want lots of controls. Arthur Lucht: Maybe for kids, kids they like uh Mark Garner: Small Arthur Lucht: t no Clarence Yazzie: Uh Arthur Lucht: l Clarence Yazzie: well. Arthur Lucht: they Clarence Yazzie: So Arthur Lucht: like Mark Garner: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: to Clarence Yazzie: le le let's see what Mark Garner: Let's Clarence Yazzie: uh Mark Garner: see the Clarence Yazzie: what Mark Garner: market demand. Clarence Yazzie: people Jerome White: And Clarence Yazzie: want. Jerome White: then we Mark Garner: What Jerome White: decide what Mark Garner: what market Jerome White: what we can Mark Garner: yes Jerome White: yeah. Mark Garner: yes. Jerome White: So we just made an marketing survey of what people need from our remotes and how it could be special from the other remotes. And we got the best on the responses from the questionnaires. Uh we also have some prizes for the most creative solutions. And we found the following solutions which we could which would be helpful for our design. So seventy percent of the users, they find their remote controls very ugly, they don't find it pleasant to use in the size or usage or anything. And eighty percent of the people they are always l I mean they are willing to spend more money if the remote control would look fancy. And the current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user. And seventy five percent of the users said they zap a lot. And fifty Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Jerome White: percent say they use only ten percent of the buttons, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: so Arthur Lucht: Mm-hmm. Jerome White: the rest of the ninety percent of the buttons they're not Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: used most of the times. Mark Garner: Yes. Jerome White: So this were the findings which we found. And also they cited frustrations with the present remote controls. Most of fifty percent of the time the remote controls are lost somewhere in the room and people are always searching for them rather than watching the T_V_. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: And by the time they found the remote control the program is finished. So Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: they're frustrated a lot And um if the remote control is too complicated it takes much time to learn the Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: functionality Clarence Yazzie: Mm, the Jerome White: of Clarence Yazzie: functionalities Jerome White: it. Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Jerome White: So you can just see the percentage, fifty percent people they responded that they always lose their remotes and thirty four percent they say that it's quite difficult to learn if it's too complex. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: So keeping in view all these findings and the frustrations I think this should be the solution for them. We should have an L_C_D_ on the rem remote control. Mark Garner: Oh. Clarence Yazzie: Well mm w well I I I don't really see the advantage of having uh L_C_D_ on the on the remote control if we have a a Mark Garner: Big screen. Clarence Yazzie: a big screen and uh display on the screen. It's Jerome White: Mm-hmm? Clarence Yazzie: yeah of course it's fancy trendy and so on but it's it's expensive to produce Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: and it's Jerome White: I mean Clarence Yazzie: not Jerome White: as Clarence Yazzie: really Jerome White: our survey says that people are willing to pay more if Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: their remotes are fancy. So if we have a L_C_D_ on the remote, rather than looking onto the T_V_ you just look into a remote and navigate it. It's the same menu Mark Garner: Mm yeah. Jerome White: as we have saw that iPod Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Jerome White: remote Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Jerome White: control. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: We just play Mark Garner: The thing Jerome White: around Clarence Yazzie: Yeah but when you play with the iPod you don't have a big screen in front of you, Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: You can Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: s Arthur Lucht: use this screen instead of the Mark Garner: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: big se screen, Mark Garner: If Arthur Lucht: instead Mark Garner: you Arthur Lucht: of Mark Garner: re-use Arthur Lucht: use Mark Garner: the Arthur Lucht: the Mark Garner: existing screen, Arthur Lucht: yeah. Mark Garner: we element eliminate the L_C_D_, after all the L_C_D_ just to display Arthur Lucht: Hmm. Mark Garner: and if you have the colourful screen you can make the display colourful, fancy, Jerome White: Yeah. Mark Garner: as fancy as the one on the L_C_D_, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: maybe even better. So Jerome White: I mean this were the points Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: which we got from the market Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Yeah yeah. Jerome White: demands. So Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: So I th I I Jerome White: the other Clarence Yazzie: think Jerome White: one Clarence Yazzie: we we can focus on the uh on the fancy look on the uh Mark Garner: Yeah. More on a fancy Jerome White: Yeah that's Mark Garner: design. Jerome White: fine. Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: on the speech Jerome White: I mean Clarence Yazzie: recognition Jerome White: that's Clarence Yazzie: if the technology is available but well I think Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: L_C_D_ will uh will uh make us spend a lot of money for Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: not so big results. Mark Garner: Remember Jerome White: Mm-hmm. Mark Garner: we have a s budget Arthur Lucht: But Mark Garner: for the cost of producing the remote controller. Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: Uh yeah Mark Garner: So Jerome White: we Mark Garner: i Jerome White: have Mark Garner: is Jerome White: uh Mark Garner: so the thing is you can find out how much an L_C_D_ will cost and then we'll decide again. Jerome White: I mean that should be found out by the Industrial Designers. Mark Garner: Uh maybe you can find out the price and tell us next time. Clarence Yazzie: So Mark Garner: Is i if Clarence Yazzie: price Mark Garner: i Clarence Yazzie: of uh L_C_D_ display. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: And it's Clarence Yazzie: And Jerome White: always good to have an voice recognition Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: for the remote Mark Garner: And Jerome White: controls. Mark Garner: also the cost for the speech recognition. Arthur Lucht: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: Ask our R_ Arthur Lucht: It's Mark Garner: and Arthur Lucht: for Mark Garner: D_ department. Arthur Lucht: it's just for small vocabulary. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: Yeah Arthur Lucht: We Jerome White: it's o only Arthur Lucht: it's Jerome White: for Arthur Lucht: not Jerome White: a limited vocabulary, Mark Garner: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: yeah. Jerome White: say Mark Garner: And ho Jerome White: eighty commands or so. Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah okay. Mark Garner: And also Clarence Yazzie: And Mark Garner: the scroller button, how much will it cost. Clarence Yazzie: Well uh compared to the to s the simpl simpler Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: simplest Jerome White: Mm, Arthur Lucht: Push Clarence Yazzie: button. Jerome White: the scroll Arthur Lucht: push. Jerome White: button, from the survey we never see that people would like to have Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: some scrolling button. Because Clarence Yazzie: Yeah I think Jerome White: they they Clarence Yazzie: that Jerome White: just they're just frightened to use the scrollings Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: or help button. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah I I I think that uh well uh as we have seen in the in the presentation uh well uh about uh uh fifty percent of the of the percent Mark Garner: Don't use the buttons. Clarence Yazzie: n choose the button so uh I think to have uh five uh simple Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: button is sufficient Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: for our Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: functionality. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: It doesn't mean that the other buttons are not Mark Garner: Important. Arthur Lucht: necessary or important. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. But Arthur Lucht: But they are just less Jerome White: They're Arthur Lucht: used Jerome White: not used much. Arthur Lucht: compar yeah. Clarence Yazzie: But the uh the thing is is i is that we can add a functionality on the on the T_V_ screen like Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: uh a a list of function Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: and then you choose Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: with the with the button to Mark Garner: Yeah, Clarence Yazzie: well Mark Garner: yeah. Clarence Yazzie: you navigate and you Mark Garner: So so the at Arthur Lucht: Or Mark Garner: most Arthur Lucht: maybe we Mark Garner: more Arthur Lucht: can Mark Garner: power Arthur Lucht: u Mark Garner: uh. Arthur Lucht: uh or maybe we can uh make this the ten percent of button more bigger than the others. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: So. Clarence Yazzie: But if i i if we if we could have a a a display uh g a user interface that is very complete on the T_V_ screen I think that just five buttons are sufficient, Mark Garner: Yep. Clarence Yazzie: one to go up left right down and uh enter Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: and you you you just select the functionality you want to access Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: or things like Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: that. Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: You don't have to to switch to a channel Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: to another Arthur Lucht: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: uh Jerome White: Or it could be like this, as the people say, if they have a L_C_D_ on the remote not on the television. Because when you have the L_C_D_ onto the television screen you miss the picture in the background, we are most focused on the commands. So Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Jerome White: if you Clarence Yazzie: but Jerome White: have then L_C_D_ in the remote, you just have a menu, and increasing and lower these signs here to change the programs and this menu when you press the menu, in the L_C_D_ displays as you go on pressing the menu it faster displays volume, then the program, then the brightness, contrast and all Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: the stuff. And Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Jerome White: accordingly Clarence Yazzie: but Jerome White: you can just increase or decrease. Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: if Arthur Lucht: It's Clarence Yazzie: you look at the L_C_D_ you you don't look at the T_V_ screen so Mark Garner: Mm. I if Clarence Yazzie: i i it's Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: not really worth to get Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: to have the image if you don't look Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: at, Arthur Lucht: And Clarence Yazzie: so. Arthur Lucht: I think it's increases the cost of the Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: the remote control if you use Jerome White: Yeah that Arthur Lucht: L_C_D_. Jerome White: has to be checked out. Mark Garner: I think that Arthur Lucht: I Mark Garner: there's no contradiction here, because if there are few buttons, you don't have to look at your your controller any more because you know where the buttons are, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: so if you wanna control the screen d sh sharpness you just say sharpness and then you t turn you just press lef increase or decrease button and the same for the volume Jerome White: Yeah. Mark Garner: and the channel, if you had the speech recognition there you just shout your channel, just tell your channel and then you don't even have to look at the butto at the controller so finally Jerome White: Okay. Mark Garner: that wil eliminates the the need for L_C_D_, with the help of speech recogniser you can Jerome White: I mean, Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: better if we could just check all the cost with L_C_D_ and also with the speech recognition. Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: And then we could find which would Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: would be a more Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: suitable in this case. Mark Garner: Yeah. A and Jerome White: And the third problem was to find the remote control. Always, so fifty percent of the people say they lose the remotes. Clarence Yazzie: Well so we we can think about a well a a vocal command like uh Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: find and when the remote control uh Mark Garner: Where, Clarence Yazzie: hears Arthur Lucht: You will Clarence Yazzie: fine Arthur Lucht: listen to a peep, Clarence Yazzie: well Arthur Lucht: special Clarence Yazzie: yeah Mark Garner: yeah. Clarence Yazzie: just Arthur Lucht: peep. Clarence Yazzie: uh to make him beep Jerome White: Yeah that's right, that's exactly Clarence Yazzie: or t Jerome White: what I mean by voice commander. Or Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: it could be also Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: something like this, uh it's always Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: boring to change the batteries of the remotes control, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: so we have some one charger there and whenever we don't use the remote control Mark Garner: Put it back Jerome White: we put Clarence Yazzie: Put Mark Garner: at the Jerome White: it Mark Garner: charge. Jerome White: in the charger. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: And when we're using that t remote and if we misplace somewhere, in the charger we have a small button, and just by pressing the button in the charger the uh remote control beeps, Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: wherever Arthur Lucht: Okay. Jerome White: it is. Clarence Yazzie: And that's a good idea, that's simple, Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: I mean Clarence Yazzie: like Jerome White: it Clarence Yazzie: in Jerome White: doe Clarence Yazzie: phones. Jerome White: it also doesn't require a voice command, because Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: there are Arthur Lucht: But Jerome White: problems Arthur Lucht: you Jerome White: with Arthur Lucht: don't Jerome White: a voice Arthur Lucht: you don't Jerome White: command. Arthur Lucht: have to move Mark Garner: Hmm. Arthur Lucht: the the charger. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean Mark Garner: Th Jerome White: charger Arthur Lucht: You Jerome White: would Arthur Lucht: have Mark Garner: yeah. Jerome White: be Arthur Lucht: to Jerome White: fixed Arthur Lucht: keep Jerome White: because it's Arthur Lucht: it. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: always with Mark Garner: Mm yeah. Jerome White: electricity plugged. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah if Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: there Arthur Lucht: Okay. Clarence Yazzie: if there uh there Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: is nuff not enough battery. Mark Garner: Mm. There's Clarence Yazzie: Also Mark Garner: mm. Clarence Yazzie: and Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: uh uh the remote is lost. Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: Yeah that's right. Mark Garner: That we can what we can do is we can program a function whereby when you press the switch off T_V_ button, the off button, the remote there be s uh instruction on the screen, please charge charge Jerome White. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: You never get it lost because uh every time you're off the computer the T_V_ you are asked the the command the T_V_ com remote controller would tell you to put it back to where to the charger. Jerome White: It's an good reminder, Mark Garner: Yeah. Jerome White: right. Mark Garner: So you will never get lost Clarence Yazzie: Okay. Mark Garner: yeah. Arthur Lucht: Maybe for some people lazy Mark Garner: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: people. Mark Garner: Yeah because everything is programmed inside. Arthur Lucht: Yeah yeah. Mark Garner: So it's it's uh it's all about strategy, y Jerome White: And of course the final point is a fancy look. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: As we have seen earlier the remotes which were displayed by Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: Norman they weren't fancy, Clarence Yazzie: They were ugly. Jerome White: I mean mm Clarence Yazzie: They Jerome White: very Mark Garner: Yeah, Jerome White: big or Mark Garner: yeah. Jerome White: something Arthur Lucht: Mm. Jerome White: with lot of buttons. I think we should have something Clarence Yazzie: Well Jerome White: it Clarence Yazzie: the last one with the um Mark Garner: With uh two two Clarence Yazzie: yeah with the two parts was Mark Garner: two parts Clarence Yazzie: uh Mark Garner: controller. Clarence Yazzie: original, Jerome White: I mean Clarence Yazzie: so Jerome White: uh I mean uh I mean uh you see if it's like that even a kid who wants to have a control he could just plug it and Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: use it, you can't avoid him. But you can have an button for child lock. Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: So just by pressing the button with Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: some code, you t you put a lock Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: onto the remote, Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: so that he can't use even Clarence Yazzie: Well Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: we can think about uh having uh on the on the on the user interface when you switch on the T_V_ Jerome White: Mm Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: uh Clarence Yazzie: you can uh well write a code or choose a category, Arthur Lucht: Or Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: if it is kids, uh Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: things like that. Jerome White: That's right. Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: Or maybe you have to to show some specific programmes for kids and Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: then just Mark Garner: these Arthur Lucht: just Mark Garner: are probl Arthur Lucht: yeah Mark Garner: yeah. Arthur Lucht: just push uh kids button Mark Garner: Mm. Mm. Arthur Lucht: so it's automatically. Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: So if he. Jerome White: I think these other four points they're the market demands and so it's for the user interface design Clarence Yazzie: So for Jerome White: and Clarence Yazzie: mm Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: industrial Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Jerome White: design Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Jerome White: to Clarence Yazzie: So Jerome White: just Clarence Yazzie: for Jerome White: think Clarence Yazzie: my part I will check the prices the um the prices difference uh of what to use, where to use, and s Jerome White: Yeah Clarence Yazzie: uh Jerome White: I think it Clarence Yazzie: and Jerome White: should Clarence Yazzie: so Jerome White: be clearer Clarence Yazzie: on. Jerome White: for us in the next meeting that Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: th uh these could be included. Mark Garner: Mm. I think we need to define also a s the set of vocabularies for the speech recogniser Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Mark Garner: because uh if you want uh say we can sort by channels or sort by T_V_ programs, you have to decide a category of vocabularies for them. If numbers, they're easy, Arthur Lucht: Mm-hmm. Mark Garner: but if name the channel by by name Clarence Yazzie: Well I think we can we can have just numbers for channels and you can say to your remote control like uh sports and then on the T_V_ you have a list with with uh uh well Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: with sports program playing now and Jerome White: No, Clarence Yazzie: and uh Jerome White: we have a problem there. You see uh if you have a voice commands and you are s you are watching a score on uh basketball score or something, and if the score comes twenty four thirty five, you've just say twenty five and Arthur Lucht: Yeah Jerome White: suddenly Arthur Lucht: it's yeah. Jerome White: the screen the channel goes to twenty five. So I think Clarence Yazzie: That's Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: there Clarence Yazzie: right, Jerome White: should be Clarence Yazzie: yeah, Jerome White: a prefix Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Jerome White: to some numbers Clarence Yazzie: Well but well e every possible word uh has a probability to come about of the T_V_ Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: so. Jerome White: I mean the the you just check all the probability that saying T_V_ twenty five and just ordinary twenty five. Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Jerome White: Ordinary Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Jerome White: twenty five you almost there's a probability of being said Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: but Jerome White: around sixty Clarence Yazzie: well Jerome White: seventy percent Clarence Yazzie: okay. Jerome White: and T_V_ twenty five I dunno it will be round Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: about one or two percent. Arthur Lucht: Mm-hmm. Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: So it's better to have some prefix before the number. Mark Garner: But I I I think that the user would like wou would like to associate the channel or call the channel rather than than the numbers. Jerome White: Yeah something, some code. Mark Garner: You say numbe channel number five of the T_V_ correspond to something else Clarence Yazzie: Yeah Mark Garner: in Clarence Yazzie: yeah. Mark Garner: the channel. So some people may want to say, I want to see this Clarence Yazzie: Mm Mark Garner: channel. Clarence Yazzie: mm. Well Jerome White: That will Clarence Yazzie: I Jerome White: be too big. And Arthur Lucht: Or Jerome White: it will Arthur Lucht: just Jerome White: be difficult for the vocabulary also. Mark Garner: Yeah. Check with the v R_ and D_ department the Arthur Lucht: It's Mark Garner: capability Arthur Lucht: difficult Mark Garner: of Arthur Lucht: to Mark Garner: recogniser. Arthur Lucht: to just say the the name of the channel. Mark Garner: Uh? Arthur Lucht: It will be difficult to say just the name of the channel. Because Mark Garner: Well, Arthur Lucht: you have Mark Garner: it's Arthur Lucht: to Mark Garner: convenient Arthur Lucht: s t Mark Garner: for Arthur Lucht: uh Mark Garner: the user. Arthur Lucht: a ch yeah but you have to to have all the name of the channel in your vocabulary. Jerome White: Als might be you just forgot Arthur Lucht: Or maybe Jerome White: the channel name, you Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: kno only know the number. Then Mark Garner: The Arthur Lucht: Or maybe Mark Garner: uh Arthur Lucht: the user Mark Garner: uh Arthur Lucht: can create Mark Garner: mm. Arthur Lucht: his own vocabulary, Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: just pronouncing the Mark Garner: I I think that Arthur Lucht: the Mark Garner: I Arthur Lucht: name Mark Garner: have Arthur Lucht: of channels and Mark Garner: mm Arthur Lucht: include Mark Garner: mm Arthur Lucht: in the vocabulary. Mark Garner: I think there's another way you can do is that uh you can uh if when the user ch press a button to choose the channel for example, then what you can do is that the you can make the T_V_ screen to split them into small little little squares of images where you you you have a snapshot of every channel, so let's say it's a four by four matrix of the images, so now what you do is f looking at the all the sixteen channels available at one time, you just use the control button uh, you Jerome White: Yeah, Mark Garner: just you Jerome White: the. Mark Garner: you just choose the the option you want and then you just hit the button and then you go to that channel. So Arthur Lucht: Or lets the user create his Mark Garner: Mm. Arthur Lucht: own vocabulary Mark Garner: So Arthur Lucht: of Mark Garner: you Arthur Lucht: channel. Mark Garner: you don't use the speech recogniser in that way. Arthur Lucht: No. Just you have uh in the beginning you have uh t you have to train you have to create the vocabulary Mark Garner: Oh, okay. Arthur Lucht: by yourself. Mark Garner: Yeah. Clarence Yazzie: Well I uh I Arthur Lucht: By Clarence Yazzie: also Arthur Lucht: associating each channel with the name or Clarence Yazzie: I I also think about uh another problem, if if there is uh more than one person who is watching T_V_ Jerome White: Yeah Clarence Yazzie: the Arthur Lucht: And Clarence Yazzie: s Arthur Lucht: for Jerome White: yeah, Arthur Lucht: each one Clarence Yazzie: well Arthur Lucht: has Clarence Yazzie: the Arthur Lucht: his Clarence Yazzie: the speech uh Arthur Lucht: own. Clarence Yazzie: r recogniser should be able to distinguish between the two. Because uh Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: I remember when I was a young child Arthur Lucht: Or Clarence Yazzie: with Arthur Lucht: you have Clarence Yazzie: my sister Arthur Lucht: to Mark Garner: Yeah, I wanna watch Jerome White: Yeah. Arthur Lucht: s Clarence Yazzie: we Mark Garner: this, I wanna watch Clarence Yazzie: yeah Mark Garner: that. Clarence Yazzie: we always want to w to watch different emission at the at the same time so it's a pr it could be a problem if uh if well if someone passes by when you are watching T_V_ and say oh T_V_ thirty and just run, Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: s Jerome White: A and in the same lines we would have a one more problem. If we are using the television in the different environments, say in the factories or in the shops Clarence Yazzie: Yeah, yeah. Jerome White: where there is a lot of noise Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Jerome White: and this voice commands if they fail to work, that would bring a bad name bad uh reputation Mark Garner: Mm. Jerome White: for our company. So Arthur Lucht: Mm. Jerome White: I think we should specify some pre-requirements if we want to use a voice commands, say that it should be used in an silent homely environment or Clarence Yazzie: Yeah. Jerome White: s something. Arthur Lucht: Or we can switch on or switch off the the special, Jerome White: Yeah that's right that should be an option. Arthur Lucht: yeah. Mark Garner: Mm. Clarence Yazzie: Yeah that's well I think that's a good uh a good option because it's simple and uh simple Mark Garner: Hmm. Clarence Yazzie: to implement also, so. Jerome White: I think these are the practical problems. So we need to take care of them in the design. Arthur Lucht: Maybe we'll discuss them in next meeting. It's time to close this meeting. Clarence Yazzie: Okay. Mark Garner: Well, you Jerome White: Okay. Mark Garner: you stay a five minutes. Jerome White: Oh it came there on three minutes back Arthur Lucht: Yeah. Jerome White: so we are I think we can just press the Arthur Lucht: Okay. Jerome White: okay. Clarence Yazzie: Okay. So Arthur Lucht: Thanks Clarence Yazzie: I see Arthur Lucht: for Clarence Yazzie: ya. Jerome White: Okay. Arthur Lucht: your collaborations. Jerome White: See you another thirty minutes.

Clarence Yazzie presented options for each component. He suggested kinetic energy, a titanium case, and rubber push buttons. The group will ask if the kinetic energy component can provide enough energy. Mark Garner introduced the graphical user interface to the group and suggested using an LCD screen. He presented several existing products and suggested the following: large buttons; voice recognition; either push, scroll, or spinning buttons; and incorporating some customizable components. The group discussed including a help button; it was decided that it would make the device seem more complicated. Jerome White presented that users found remotes too easily lost, complicated, and ugly. He showed that users were willing to pay more for a fancy remote. He suggested the LCD screen; the group felt that it was better to utilize the user's television as a display screen, but that they would inquire about cost before deciding. The group will inquire about the cost of voice recognition and scroll buttons. The group discussed incorporating a locator function and customization for children. They discussed the sensitivity of the voice recognizer to other noises; the group will ask about the capability of the recognizer.

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Darren Rogers: So in last meeting we have discussed the conceptual design and we asked you to prepare a prototype for the for the remote control. So. Samuel Hansen: Okay. Darren Rogers: So let's see the what Samuel Hansen: Yeah, so Darren Rogers: did you prepare. Samuel Hansen: can you go out to the shared folder? Mm the Darren Rogers: Sh Samuel Hansen: shared folder. Darren Rogers: share folder for Samuel Hansen: Yes. Darren Rogers: th your presentation? Samuel Hansen: We have a presentation. Darren Rogers: Because I have here Samuel Hansen: Uh So I got the participant uh three. W uh. Three. It's the final design, yeah. Darren Rogers: Okay just one. Samuel Hansen: S so so I discussed with Bobby Stoddard: Mm. Samuel Hansen: Guillaume. Right. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: And uh so we have and we we are both agreed on some two versions of the prototypes, because we not decided whether we to have an L_C_D_ or not because it's too expensive. So we come up with two versions. One with and one without L_C_D_s. Um but both comes with a charger and then detachable and uh or control module. And detachable big buttons for all people um. So. Bobby Stoddard: okay so I'll show you the the two prototypes. Here we have the first one with the beautiful uh L_C_D_ um display. You you can s here. And you can uh just um browse into the the navigation menu by uh joystick Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: joystick-like uh button. You can uh choose the direction and if you just push on it it's considered like Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: a enter function. Samuel Hansen: Mm-hmm. Bobby Stoddard: You have on the mm on the side here the microphone for the for the speech recognition. And here the the switch that control if you Darren Rogers: Why Bobby Stoddard: want Darren Rogers: you why you you put it in the the side? Bobby Stoddard: Well I I I think uh it's Darren Rogers: It's not Bobby Stoddard: the Darren Rogers: a good place maybe. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Samuel Hansen: No i i Bobby Stoddard: but Samuel Hansen: it's the all around camer uh microphone isn't it. The the microphone picks up Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: the speeches Andre Hess: Is it an Samuel Hansen: from Andre Hess: only Samuel Hansen: anywhere. Andre Hess: a single mic or a microphone array? Bobby Stoddard: Well so it's a microphone array. Darren Rogers: Oh it's Andre Hess: Mm-hmm. Darren Rogers: very costly, microphone Bobby Stoddard: No Darren Rogers: array. Bobby Stoddard: it's Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: just a single microphone, and you I I think uh we we put it here because I think when you when you are browsing your L_C_D_ Andre Hess: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: you will be close to well it's better to to to place it here th Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: than here, Andre Hess: Okay. Bobby Stoddard: for instance. Samuel Hansen: yeah. Bobby Stoddard: And here is a little switch that control if you want the the speaker uh recognition system to um to be on or off. And uh so this remote control comes up with its charger. Darren Rogers: How much does it cost this one? Bobby Stoddard: Well this this prototype is um made for about uh well fi Samuel Hansen: For the Bobby Stoddard: fi fifteen fifteen dollars Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: Fifteen dollars? Bobby Stoddard: fifteen dollars, but uh well it's Darren Rogers: above Bobby Stoddard: not Darren Rogers: it's Bobby Stoddard: it's not Darren Rogers: above Bobby Stoddard: uh Darren Rogers: the budget. Bobby Stoddard: yeah, but uh it's just a prototype and if we uh if we optimises the um the uh voila. Andre Hess: The cost would be le reduced. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah the and the Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: the production costs we we can achieve Samuel Hansen: Hmm. Bobby Stoddard: uh about ten dollars. Darren Rogers: How many b battery is there? Bobby Stoddard: How many, excuse Andre Hess? Darren Rogers: Battery. Bobby Stoddard: Well uh f battery, we use uh Samuel Hansen: Is Bobby Stoddard: about Samuel Hansen: it n Bobby Stoddard: uh Samuel Hansen: the two A_A_s batteries in Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: it. A_A_ rechargeable batteries. Bobby Stoddard: Rechargeable of course, Samuel Hansen: Yeah rechargeable Bobby Stoddard: because we have Samuel Hansen: batteries. Bobby Stoddard: the charger. Samuel Hansen: We have the charger so Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Samuel Hansen: it's no problem. Bobby Stoddard: and you just Darren Rogers: So one one battery? Bobby Stoddard: On uh yeah one battery. Andre Hess: Is that two or one? Darren Rogers: It's kinetic reserve. Samuel Hansen: Actually uh it's a flexible thing. You just n Andre Hess: Now Samuel Hansen: uh Andre Hess: what is the whole day rating for that? Bobby Stoddard: The Andre Hess: Whole Bobby Stoddard: excuse Andre Hess: day's Bobby Stoddard: Andre Hess? Andre Hess: rating. What type of battery? Bobby Stoddard: Oh yeah it's just a r uh simple battery a rechargeable uh Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: if you uh Samuel Hansen: yeah. Bobby Stoddard: like it's exist. Andre Hess: Something like a two A_, A_ three size batteries? Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: So and if you want to charge the battery you just put the remote control like that Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: to plug in the Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: the charger and uh leave it uh alone, Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: it's alright. Then the next time you pick it, oh Samuel Hansen: At Bobby Stoddard: it Samuel Hansen: uh Bobby Stoddard: works. Samuel Hansen: yeah. I forgot to tell you there is only a single button there, Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Samuel Hansen: b this Bobby Stoddard: just explain Samuel Hansen: button Bobby Stoddard: the button uh Samuel Hansen: yeah alright. Bobby Stoddard: Norman. Samuel Hansen: This button is like the mouse is like a joystick, you can move in three hundred and sixty degrees of direction so you can make a turn and it the additi functions associated to all the actions you ma you have a click you have a double click Darren Rogers: Mm. Samuel Hansen: all in a single button. You can move up, down, left, right, or you can do a swing. So a swing to the left, a swing to the right defines other functions. So even though it's a single button, but it is pretty s flexible because of the three hundred and sixty degree movement. Andre Hess: And the L_C_D_ is this one, on the Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: remote? Bobby Stoddard: Yep. Samuel Hansen: This is the version y that comes with L_C_D_. Andre Hess: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Here I present another version without the L_C_D_. Darren Rogers: I think it's not a good idea because after maybe one or two months Samuel Hansen: Mm. Darren Rogers: of function is getting destroyed. If Samuel Hansen: Uh Darren Rogers: you Samuel Hansen: okay Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Samuel Hansen: this is Bobby Stoddard: it's Samuel Hansen: new prototype uh. Bobby Stoddard: So we have the the second version also with the different uh button configuration. The second version is also simpler, we d uh we had just uh I have to put the microphone also. So basically th it's the Andre Hess: Uh-huh Bobby Stoddard: same Andre Hess: and also Bobby Stoddard: uh Andre Hess: the switch. Bobby Stoddard: yeah. Samuel Hansen: Yeah Andre Hess: Okay. Bobby Stoddard: Basically Samuel Hansen: yeah. Bobby Stoddard: it's the same uh things uh uh as uh I presented before. But here we have uh we have uh four buttons for navigation. Press one button uh acting Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: as a a enter button. So um yeah according to what you said it's more robust to the user. Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Andre Hess: Mm-hmm. Bobby Stoddard: And uh it's also cheaper to produce. We can produce uh such remote control for about uh four dollars. Darren Rogers: No four dollars, it's good. Andre Hess: And I think you forgot a point here have an button to find the charger, Samuel Hansen: Oh no th Andre Hess: because that's Samuel Hansen: actually Andre Hess: a major Samuel Hansen: th Andre Hess: that's Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Samuel Hansen: we'll Andre Hess: a Samuel Hansen: come Bobby Stoddard: it's Samuel Hansen: to that Bobby Stoddard: it's Samuel Hansen: point in Bobby Stoddard: it's Samuel Hansen: our Bobby Stoddard: embed in the Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: uh speech recognition system. Andre Hess: Okay and Bobby Stoddard: So Andre Hess: if you disable speech recognition system then? Samuel Hansen: W w I'll I'll come to that point later Andre Hess: Mm Samuel Hansen: on. Andre Hess: hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm. Bobby Stoddard: so Norman will explain to you. Darren Rogers: And Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: we Andre Hess: Okay. Darren Rogers: will we will serve the charger with this? Bobby Stoddard: Yeah yeah Samuel Hansen: Th they Darren Rogers: With Bobby Stoddard: of course Darren Rogers: the remote control. Bobby Stoddard: mm. Samuel Hansen: either these with the uh the the charger any in either versions you they they ha they use the same charger Darren Rogers: Okay Samuel Hansen: yeah. Darren Rogers: so the price of the charger included in the Samuel Hansen: Uh it's a standard module so you should get it for a cheap price uh. Bobby Stoddard: Thank thank you. Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Bobby Stoddard: And so Samuel Hansen: It's that Bobby Stoddard: mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: same charger that you can use for the hand-phone but uh again depends on the types. I think we have to investigate more on that, but Darren Rogers: The price should be below twelve Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: and a half Euro. Samuel Hansen: Yeah Darren Rogers: Well Samuel Hansen: but Darren Rogers: that's Samuel Hansen: as the Marketing Darren Rogers: so Samuel Hansen: Manager says, people is willing to people are willing to pay more for good design. Andre Hess: Yeah people Darren Rogers: We Andre Hess: are willing Darren Rogers: have Andre Hess: to Darren Rogers: we Andre Hess: pay more, Darren Rogers: have just Andre Hess: but the company is not willing to invest more Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: The price Andre Hess: at the Darren Rogers: of Andre Hess: moment. Darren Rogers: selling is twenty Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: five Euros. Samuel Hansen: Mm-hmm. Darren Rogers: And the price of Bobby Stoddard: Alright Darren Rogers: production Bobby Stoddard: please uh go on Norman with the special Andre Hess: Or Bobby Stoddard: features. Andre Hess: uh Samuel Hansen: Yeah we'll we'll come up to that, the the the thing that makes this the controller cheap is that it is modular so you want more function you pay more. If you want less function i i if you want a reasonable price you pay for the functions that you add on to the system, so is uh modular. Darren Rogers: That's for this basis function and if you want more you pay Samuel Hansen: Yeah Darren Rogers: more. Samuel Hansen: yeah, Andre Hess: Something Samuel Hansen: for example Andre Hess: like Samuel Hansen: the L_C_D_, Andre Hess: customised. Samuel Hansen: you can take it Andre Hess: Yeah Samuel Hansen: you can put Darren Rogers: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: it put it back in, or you can use the other one, or the speech recogniser with the microphone yeah yeah. You want a microphone to put in the Darren Rogers: Okay. Samuel Hansen: speech recogniser you don't wan you pay less for the system you see. Andre Hess: Mm hmm hmm hmm. Samuel Hansen: So Andre Hess: Hmm okay. Samuel Hansen: It's pretty flexible in the yeah Bobby Stoddard: You also Samuel Hansen: price. Bobby Stoddard: have the Darren Rogers: But Bobby Stoddard: the the two other modules for the parental control Samuel Hansen: Uh yeah yeah you should Andre Hess: And Bobby Stoddard: that Samuel Hansen: present Andre Hess: this Bobby Stoddard: that Samuel Hansen: that. Andre Hess: is Bobby Stoddard: you ca Andre Hess: other one? Bobby Stoddard: you can add up to the to your remote control i i if you uh if you want to to have more more power on what you do, Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: and uh which channel you want to choose and so on. H here is just the the the module for the kids and th if the parents want Andre Hess: Mm Bobby Stoddard: to Andre Hess: hmm hmm Bobby Stoddard: watch Andre Hess: hmm. Bobby Stoddard: T_V_, up they come up with their modules, they just plug in it Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: and they can have all the control they want here. Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: We also have this module for uh old people Samuel Hansen: Hmm. Bobby Stoddard: with big buttons, clearly labelled, and it acts like the previous Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: one, you just plug in and it works. Andre Hess: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: Yeah the i the idea the the conceptual idea is that simplicity and powerful. Simplicity meaning that we have few buttons, powerful is that all the controls with the one you saw we saw earlier in the meetings with lots of buttons n but here you only have few buttons but you retain the mm the same powerful functionalities. But in addition with simplicity. So that's the best idea, the cond that that's our uh an innovation um uh i in this uh design here. Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: Okay now we come to other important features that I did not tell you. The first one is the speech recogniser, again it's detachable or add-on. And then we also have security feature for example this here oop it's very robust, it doesn't break and the material, what's the material Bobby Stoddard: The Samuel Hansen: again? Bobby Stoddard: titanium and Darren Rogers: Titanium. Bobby Stoddard: so it's very uh Samuel Hansen: Again uh and the battery life is uh is an is an endurable one, again because this is A_A_ batteries you can choose the types of battery you want. Andre Hess: Yeah that's fine. Samuel Hansen: Lithium-ion may be a good one, but you can replace it with cheaper one, again you pay for what you get, and then um y the other p points are robust and misplacement reminder. So when you finish watching your T_V_ and you the you t you turn off the T_V_, uh and then there's this message coming out that uh please put that back to the charger, Andre Hess: Okay. Samuel Hansen: so that's the or is it that's the reminder part. Yeah and um And it also use a programmable channel and vocabulary, so we didn't define the vocabulary so it's up to the user to define Andre Hess: Mm hmm hmm hmm. Samuel Hansen: so sorry? And then uh because of the chil because children are using the device so we have also a a of T_V_ programmes by genre, and this can be used by the adult or by the children. So instead of choosing the channel you are choosing the T_V_ contents of the night. So it's pretty powerful, and that's that's why the num buttons are reduced, because of this feature. Yeah. And and for the materials that is cheap to produce I think uh it's quite clear from yeah. And also like the and the fancy designs yeah. Maybe we can Darren Rogers: What Samuel Hansen: improve Darren Rogers: what's Samuel Hansen: more on the design Darren Rogers: Maybe yeah. What's Samuel Hansen: but Darren Rogers: the price to p to produce? Samuel Hansen: uh this is the Bobby Stoddard: Well so the price to produce For uh the simplest one, say we start from four dollars to produce such a device. Uh it's Darren Rogers: With Bobby Stoddard: about Darren Rogers: with Bobby Stoddard: it Darren Rogers: with the Bobby Stoddard: The Andre Hess: With the Darren Rogers: charge? Andre Hess: charger? Bobby Stoddard: without without the charger Darren Rogers: Okay. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: it's about uh well two dollars to produce uh the microphone and speech recognition systems. Two dollars for the uh for the add-on modules, and finally three dollars for the charger. So if you uh sum up uh everything Darren Rogers: We don't have charger. Bobby Stoddard: wi with the L_C_D_, which costs two dollar, you have two plus four plus four plus two plus two. It's Andre Hess: I think Bobby Stoddard: about Andre Hess: we can use Excel. Darren Rogers: We don't have all the options. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: so the total Darren Rogers: Charger Bobby Stoddard: cost if Darren Rogers: we Bobby Stoddard: you Darren Rogers: don't have Bobby Stoddard: if Darren Rogers: charger Bobby Stoddard: you want Darren Rogers: here Bobby Stoddard: all the Darren Rogers: either. Bobby Stoddard: fuct functionalities will be about uh fifteen dollars. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: No it's Bobby Stoddard: But it's just if you want all functionalities. Darren Rogers: it's below the the the budget. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Excuse Andre Hess? Darren Rogers: It's below the bu the budget. Andre Hess: Yeah it's a nice Darren Rogers: We Andre Hess: input but we have an other inputs from the l public demands. I think we will just have a rough look and then we can make our statements, and we can finalise the product based Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: on this discu Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: I think we can just go to my presentation then. We can wind up. Or we could uh come to some f uh final conclusions. Andre Hess: So the marketing made an evaluation criteria and these were some of the findings, and uh in the market the people are not really interested with L_C_D_, without L_C_D_, with speech recognition interface, or without speech recognition interface, but most of the people what they are interested is first thing is, they want to have an fancy look and feel, it should be very fancy with colourful and uh very handy to hold. And Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: the second thing is it should be much more technologically innovative. Of course in that we could put L_C_D_ or recognition to be more technologically innovative. And the third one is easy to use. Bobby Stoddard: Well Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: I think that the technical in innovation is is in the product itself since we haven't yet a remote who are allowing to to choose interactively with the T_V_ screen uh uh with just four buttons. Andre Hess: Okay and if we go to the next slide, here you can find these are the latest fashion updates, and so this in Paris and Milan they have detected this trends that the this year it's going to be an year of fruit and vegetable, so people are really interested Samuel Hansen: Spongy Andre Hess: to see if Samuel Hansen: spongy. Andre Hess: they have an remote in the shape of the fruit or a vegetable, or Samuel Hansen: Mm Andre Hess: whatever they like. Samuel Hansen: mm. Andre Hess: So I think it should be much more customised Samuel Hansen: Mm Andre Hess: to make a different Samuel Hansen: mm. Andre Hess: uh shapes. And the second thing is, and if the material, they really do not want it to be very hard, as in the case of very pl plastic or titanium, it should be somewhat spongy. Bobby Stoddard: Okay. Samuel Hansen: But the the problem is that uh is it robust to mishandling? Andre Hess: Um. Samuel Hansen: We have you should find a material that is robust at the same time spongy. Bobby Stoddard: A Andre Hess: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: sponge. Andre Hess: so Samuel Hansen: Spongy. Andre Hess: uh so finally we have these three criterias. One is fancy look, second is innovative, and third is easy to use. So these are the f uh three criteria on which we are going to build our remote. Samuel Hansen: Mm-hmm. Andre Hess: So Bobby Stoddard: Hmm. Andre Hess: and we have an evaluation criteria for each one of these, say that we have a seven point scale, from one to seven, Samuel Hansen: Mm-hmm. Andre Hess: and for each of the product you could just give Andre Hess the scale according to this. Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: So now you have with L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_, so Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: on this scale, if it is true, if it is if it has a fancy look you could just tell Andre Hess one, or if it is false, it doesn't it looks uh it doesn't look much fancy, then you could just tell Andre Hess seven. So Samuel Hansen: So Andre Hess: We can make our study on this and Samuel Hansen: so is the e evaluation depending on us or other users? Andre Hess: No no we have you have designed two products now, Darren Rogers: Yeah. Andre Hess: one is with L_C_D_ and without Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: L_C_D_. Samuel Hansen: But who will give the scoring uh we ourself or Darren Rogers: You. Andre Hess: According Samuel Hansen: or a Andre Hess: to Samuel Hansen: third party? Andre Hess: you, no according to you designers, how will feel does it uh with Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: L_C_D_ and without L_C_D_? Okay let us make this L_ and without L_C_D_. On on this scale the L_C_D_ Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: remote control. How do Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: you look how does it look? D is it very fancy or doesn't look much fancy? Bobby Stoddard: Well it doesn't look much fancy I'll I'll say three or four. Andre Hess: And you both agree for that? Darren Rogers: And you? Samuel Hansen: I think we can improve on the design. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Som Bobby Stoddard: It's it Samuel Hansen: someone Bobby Stoddard: it Samuel Hansen: um commented this is like a the stone age uh design. Um we have been focused all all this time on the Bobby Stoddard: Technical Samuel Hansen: on the technical Bobby Stoddard: aspects. Samuel Hansen: aspect, functional aspect, but also the simplicity. Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: As for the design maybe we c should hire a designer Andre Hess: So I take Samuel Hansen: to Andre Hess: three on Samuel Hansen: help. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Andre Hess: with Bobby Stoddard: a three. Andre Hess: L_C_D_? So without Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: L_C_D_ how would you rate it? Bobby Stoddard: Uh four. Andre Hess: Four. Bobby Stoddard: I think it's it's uh more easy to make f fancy things when it's not complicated Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Yeah. Andre Hess: And in the sense of innovativeness, with L_C_D_. Bobby Stoddard: Well it's it's the same for both so I will give a five, six. Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: Five with L_C_D_ and Bobby Stoddard: Well five also uh Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: Norman please. Darren Rogers: Uh Samuel Hansen: from the innovation aspect I feel that uh what is most innovative of our prototype compared to the existing prototypes that we saw l in the last meeting is that um the retrieval of T_V_ programmes by content, because uh that is really innovative, and for now and another innovation we have is simplicity and simplicity, few buttons, we've uh Bobby Stoddard: With lot of functionalities. Samuel Hansen: A lot of functionalities. Andre Hess: So Samuel Hansen: So Andre Hess: without Samuel Hansen: that is Andre Hess: L_C_D_? Samuel Hansen: uh that is uh for both th Our gi I think that the our our product is uh has the best in all well this is a biased judgement Andre Hess: No Samuel Hansen: because Andre Hess: no according Samuel Hansen: we designed Andre Hess: to design Samuel Hansen: them. Andre Hess: aspect we want to know how Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: would you feel the innovativeness? Samuel Hansen: Uh the innovation is v is very high I think. Andre Hess: With Darren Rogers: For Andre Hess: L_C_D_. Darren Rogers: L_C_D_. Andre Hess: And without Samuel Hansen: Both. Andre Hess: L_C_D_? Bobby Stoddard: Mm for both it's Samuel Hansen: For both. Bobby Stoddard: the the same innovations. Samuel Hansen: It's the same innovation. Andre Hess: Okay. Samuel Hansen: So maybe I can put six to seven. Bobby Stoddard: six, let's Darren Rogers: Without Bobby Stoddard: go for Darren Rogers: L_C_D_. Bobby Stoddard: six. Samuel Hansen: Both. Andre Hess: No actually uh to make it with L_C_D_ you make more efforts. So I there is high innovativeness included if you make it with L_C_D_ Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: y then when it is without L_C_D_ Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: there is not much Darren Rogers: Uh no Andre Hess: innovativeness. Darren Rogers: innovative yeah. Andre Hess: So Samuel Hansen: Uh Andre Hess: we Samuel Hansen: uh Andre Hess: can't Samuel Hansen: uh Andre Hess: go Samuel Hansen: there w there was a there was a issue here is that what are what is the display on the L_C_D_? We haven't really uh Bobby Stoddard: Talk Andre Hess: I mean Samuel Hansen: determined Bobby Stoddard: about Andre Hess: that what you are sayin that's Samuel Hansen: what Andre Hess: what the Samuel Hansen: are actually Andre Hess: design Samuel Hansen: actually it's good to have a L_C_D_ but what are we gonna display on a L_C_D_? Andre Hess: No it's like this, I mean on the L_C_D_, according to what I understand from your model is, Darren Rogers: So let's remove Andre Hess: you Darren Rogers: it. Andre Hess: have a joystick here, Samuel Hansen: Yeah? Andre Hess: and you have L_C_D_, Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: you just press your joystick, you get here a programme. Samuel Hansen: Yeah but Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Andre Hess: Uh Bobby Stoddard: but Andre Hess: then Bobby Stoddard: you have Darren Rogers: But Bobby Stoddard: the same programme on the T_V_ screen. Samuel Hansen: Yes exactly. Darren Rogers: This is the problem. Andre Hess: No on the T_V_ you don't it doesn't display on the T_V_ now. Bobby Stoddard: If you have the L_C_D_, Andre Hess: L_C_D_? Bobby Stoddard: but if n Andre Hess: Then uh there is no meaning in having it on the T_V_. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: a channels, volume and all the stuff Samuel Hansen: But Andre Hess: and what Samuel Hansen: you cannot Andre Hess: a Samuel Hansen: display all on a L_C_D_. Andre Hess: I mean that depends upon your design, so Samuel Hansen: Anyway for for the users who who who opt for L_C_D_ Andre Hess: I mean Samuel Hansen: we'll give them the give them the L_C_D_, we give what the customer uh wants, right. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: So without L_C_D_ you want to put it fi the same level of innovativeness? And which do you recommend e easy to use, with L_C_D_ or without L_C_D_? Bobby Stoddard: Well I think both are really easy to use because there are few button buttons, Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: and uh well t p the menu are clear, Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: well-organised, so Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Well with little knowing of the technology you can you can easily use the product so I will give a six for the easy Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: to use. Samuel Hansen: I think sorry. Darren Rogers: No it's just if I I see the the f the rate I think it's better to do it without L_C_D_. Because Andre Hess: Yeah. Darren Rogers: that's with L_C_D_ just will increase the price, and I thi i they have the same rate so Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Darren Rogers: without L_C_D_ Andre Hess: Or we can Darren Rogers: it Andre Hess: just Darren Rogers: will be Andre Hess: go back to the previous slide uh where we ha we have a few updates. So I mean in the product design you could just amend it to make some few changes Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: according to fruit and Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: vegetable or a spongy touch Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: without L_C_D_ and without speech recognition. Even then our product is going to be Bobby Stoddard: Yeah, it's Andre Hess: very Bobby Stoddard: cheaper Andre Hess: good. Bobby Stoddard: to produce. Andre Hess: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Mm. S Bobby Stoddard: And uh if the the well if we have less technology we have more liberty to uh Andre Hess: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: for Andre Hess: that's Bobby Stoddard: the shape Andre Hess: right. Bobby Stoddard: and uh things like that so Samuel Hansen: Yeah. I have another thing to say about the easy to use aspect. I think the easy to use uh aspect is different for different people. Bobby Stoddard: Yep. Samuel Hansen: For the Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: young generation easy to use may be very complicated because uh they w they wants lot of controls with lots of buttons. For kids they want simply the s similarit Andre Hess: Yeah Samuel Hansen: for Andre Hess: yeah Samuel Hansen: the old Andre Hess: that's Samuel Hansen: people Andre Hess: right. Samuel Hansen: they want simplicity, so that's why we have the parental module. Uh we can ha have build a more complex design if if they want it, but but uh what I'm trying to say here is that the um we have different sets of buttons for different kinds of people. So in terms of easy to use I think it's very user customisable. User customisation is very important yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Yeah so Andre Hess: So without Bobby Stoddard: Six. Andre Hess: L_C_D_ I just take it five? Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Samuel Hansen: W Andre Hess: Or Samuel Hansen: uh Andre Hess: you want it to be six? Bobby Stoddard: Um six. Samuel Hansen: I think it's the same. Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Yes as you say, with better uh Darren Rogers: Without Andre Hess: S s Darren Rogers: L_C_D_. Andre Hess: oh Bobby Stoddard: yeah. Andre Hess: I think it's better to have this without L_C_D_. Bobby Stoddard: And to improve the Andre Hess: As our Bobby Stoddard: the Andre Hess: Programme Bobby Stoddard: look. Andre Hess: Manager s Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: Pro Project Manager says that without L_C_D_ it is going to reduce the cost also, Darren Rogers: Yeah. Andre Hess: and Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: it's going to be much Bobby Stoddard: Yes Andre Hess: simpler Bobby Stoddard: and to Andre Hess: to Bobby Stoddard: give Andre Hess: use. Bobby Stoddard: us more liberty to have a fancy look so Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: so let's go back to our laboratory and Andre Hess: So. Darren Rogers: What Samuel Hansen: To improve Darren Rogers: a what Samuel Hansen: on Darren Rogers: what Samuel Hansen: the design. Darren Rogers: about the sys speech recognition? Samuel Hansen: Huh? Darren Rogers: what about the integration of Samuel Hansen: The Darren Rogers: speech Samuel Hansen: speech recogniser Darren Rogers: recognition? Samuel Hansen: is a add-on module. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Right? Andre Hess: That's going to be an optional. If somebody wants to buy it they can have it, otherwise Darren Rogers: Ah Andre Hess: no. Darren Rogers: so it's optional Andre Hess: It's Darren Rogers: with Andre Hess: an Darren Rogers: the Andre Hess: optional. Darren Rogers: okay. Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: It's optional yeah, since well according to this study uh people more Darren Rogers: I think Bobby Stoddard: likes Darren Rogers: it will Bobby Stoddard: more Darren Rogers: be I Bobby Stoddard: to have Darren Rogers: think Bobby Stoddard: a spongy Darren Rogers: i Bobby Stoddard: uh remote Andre Hess: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: control than Darren Rogers: I think it will be better if we have all these modules in the same remote control, because maybe parents will Andre Hess: Yeah, but Darren Rogers: lose Andre Hess: I mean Darren Rogers: these Andre Hess: if you have Darren Rogers: uh Andre Hess: an add-ons, the kids may just uh hide the parental module Darren Rogers: Yeah. Andre Hess: and Darren Rogers: Or Andre Hess: so Darren Rogers: ma Andre Hess: that their Darren Rogers: yeah. Andre Hess: parents can't Darren Rogers: Or Andre Hess: use Darren Rogers: maybe Andre Hess: it. Darren Rogers: parents they can for forget where they put it or, so mayb better if you have all this in the same Andre Hess: In the same set, yeah, Samuel Hansen: Oh. Andre Hess: and and individual buttons to make them work. Darren Rogers: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: The problem is if i we are bla if a customer wants a certain component, and doesn't want the parental control because it's a couple who do not have children when you sell the product in the market you could meet any kind of people, and not all people will need all the functionalities we propose to them. So we might lose the customer because of this. I don't know, what do you Darren Rogers: So Samuel Hansen: think Darren Rogers: you mean that Samuel Hansen: uh? Darren Rogers: even if these modules will be will be functional uh will be optional. Samuel Hansen: Yes exa what do you think, I don't know. You are Marketing Andre Hess: I mean Darren Rogers: Uh Andre Hess: how Samuel Hansen: Manag. Andre Hess: to how to how to make a marketing survey that Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: uh how many married couple or how many couples have a T_V_ or to the number or singles who have a television. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: So based on that I think Samuel Hansen: Yeah. But the the question is n does those modularity increase the production cost or decrease the production cost? Darren Rogers: I think it inc increase. Bobby Stoddard: if Well you can if you had Darren Rogers: I Bobby Stoddard: uh Darren Rogers: think it Bobby Stoddard: something Darren Rogers: i increases. Bobby Stoddard: li Oh no, because if you if you add uh something well yeah maybe because it's three different pieces uh Darren Rogers: Hmm. Bobby Stoddard: to to to build but Andre Hess: But you can make it on a single P_C_ with three different options. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah yeah yeah it's I think it's cheaper if you Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: if you already built the all the functionalities um Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: on the same module, but uh Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Andre Hess: On the same P_C_B_ Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Andre Hess: yeah Samuel Hansen: Well Andre Hess: yeah. Samuel Hansen: well the other aspect is that if in the when they have the ar existing product you you gonna maintain the the you're gonna keep the same customer, because the same customer will come back to buy other add-ons. Andre Hess: Yeah that's right. Samuel Hansen: So Andre Hess: I mean you could Samuel Hansen: so Andre Hess: just provide with an optional. Samuel Hansen: Yeah i i so if don't don't buy now they can buy i in the future. So in in that way you're actually keeping the cus the same customer, attracting them to come back in again and again. Andre Hess: So it's something like a Microsoft product Samuel Hansen: We're Darren Rogers: And Samuel Hansen: not Andre Hess: update. Samuel Hansen: trying to follow Darren Rogers: and we Samuel Hansen: the Microsoft Darren Rogers: we we we we we don't want that. Samuel Hansen: and we don't want to the m Andre Hess: Updates and we sell it. We make updates and sell it. Samuel Hansen: Yeah well if the buyers can be up the th would be can be upgraded, it would be a good thing right? Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: Yeah, it depends on the Andre Hess: And uh what's the idea about uh Samuel Hansen: v Andre Hess: the shape of Samuel Hansen: production. Andre Hess: the remote controls? Uh Bobby Stoddard: Well Andre Hess: can Bobby Stoddard: so Andre Hess: they be made into a fruit and vegetable Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Andre Hess: types? Bobby Stoddard: yeah Andre Hess: Do you require different Bobby Stoddard: I think Andre Hess: types Bobby Stoddard: we are Andre Hess: of P_C_B_s and Bobby Stoddard: yeah but we are also the um well the components will have to change because uh we have to deal with the shape and um but Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: I don't think it will uh increase the cost too much so Andre Hess: Or uh it could be like this the P_C_B_ would be the same for all, but only the exterior uh Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: shape is different o for all. Bobby Stoddard: Uh well but it's a bit complicated to if if if you need machines to different machines to Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: um ah well Samuel Hansen: What we can change is to propose the customers with skins. For example the i the mobile phones nowaday, Andre Hess: Yeah, yeah that's Samuel Hansen: they sell Andre Hess: right. Samuel Hansen: different kinds of skin and then people just feel that oh I have a new skin and looks better. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah yeah we can have the same Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: global shape and then uh Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: add on Andre Hess: Yeah that's Bobby Stoddard: skins Andre Hess: right. Bobby Stoddard: and Samuel Hansen: Yeah. Bobby Stoddard: with with this uh tex spongy texture uh things Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: like that. Samuel Hansen: you can pl in what material would that be in uh? Bobby Stoddard: Sponge. Andre Hess: I think you need to look into the material. Samuel Hansen: Yeah or furry like a pet dog kind of thing. Andre Hess: Yeah yeah. Bobby Stoddard: Okay. Darren Rogers: So Bobby Stoddard: So we finished the prototype uh presentation if you have uh something else to say. Andre Hess: I think Darren Rogers would be interested to look about the financial issues in making these models. Darren Rogers: Project evaluation project satisfaction, for example. I don't know, we have to ask these question. We have to give answers so Samuel Hansen: I suppose that you this criteria, is it? Darren Rogers: Project evaluation. Samuel Hansen: Room for creativity. This room is a bit small, but but I think it's okay for us to work with. Andre Hess: I feel it's fine, we know we don't need uh I think it's okay. Samuel Hansen: Yeah mm. Bobby Stoddard: That Andre Hess: This is Bobby Stoddard: was Andre Hess: fine Bobby Stoddard: good. Andre Hess: for making a presentat Samuel Hansen: Mm. Andre Hess: for project presentations. Samuel Hansen: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: Yeah. Samuel Hansen: anyway we have the laboratory nearby to build our modules so it's okay. Darren Rogers: Mm-hmm. Andre Hess: And the leadership was excellent. Darren Rogers: Yeah I think so. Samuel Hansen: Good job Bobby Stoddard: Fine yes uh. Samuel Hansen: good Darren Rogers: He gave you the liberty to talk Samuel Hansen: job. Andre Hess: Yeah Darren Rogers: as Andre Hess: that's Darren Rogers: you Andre Hess: right. Darren Rogers: wants. Andre Hess: Yeah that's right. Darren Rogers: Uh the teamwork was very very good. Bobby Stoddard: Very democratic. Darren Rogers: I was really I am very satisfying to work with with Bobby Stoddard: Thank Darren Rogers: you. Bobby Stoddard: you. Samuel Hansen: Thank you. Darren Rogers: Oh. Bobby Stoddard: Alright. Samuel Hansen: Alright. Andre Hess: And new ideas found. Any new ideas to make these presentations more interactive and more interesting? Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: Come up with new product. Andre Hess: I mean uh what type of product would you think could we make this more interesting? Darren Rogers: Less fancy. Samuel Hansen: Mm we I I know something, we need more cakes, more biscuits on the table while we have meetings. Bobby Stoddard: Yeah and also more well uh more seriously I think it's Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: it's a good idea to have uh clear clear points whenever we do a meeting uh prior to the meeting to have uh well a list with the points who will be discussed or things like that, but I think it's alright. We achieved uh project goal I Andre Hess: Yeah Bobby Stoddard: think. Andre Hess: that is within Darren Rogers: De Andre Hess: the budget. Samuel Hansen: Mm. Bobby Stoddard: It's w yes, Andre Hess: And the evaluation Bobby Stoddard: more Darren Rogers: Without Bobby Stoddard: or less. Andre Hess: was Darren Rogers: without L_C_D_, without speech recognition, Andre Hess: Yeah that's Bobby Stoddard: Yeah Andre Hess: right. Bobby Stoddard: but Darren Rogers: it will be simple. Bobby Stoddard: Alright. Andre Hess: And the next Bobby Stoddard: So. Andre Hess: is celebration. So Bobby Stoddard: So uh coffee machine. Darren Rogers: Yeah free free coffee. Bobby Stoddard: Okay. Samuel Hansen: Alright then, we finished? Darren Rogers: Yeah Andre Hess: Yeah Darren Rogers: thank Samuel Hansen: Thank Andre Hess: thank Darren Rogers: you Samuel Hansen: you Darren Rogers: for Samuel Hansen: very Andre Hess: you, Darren Rogers: your Andre Hess: thank Samuel Hansen: much. Andre Hess: you very much. Darren Rogers: work and

Samuel Hansen and Bobby Stoddard presented two prototypes, one with an LCD screen and one without. They demonstrated how to navigate through the menus and presented the voice recognition and energy source components and the charging stand. They discussed their modular design. They discussed the parental control module and the titanium casing. The production costs were below budget for the basic models. Andre Hess presented three important user requirements, and also the fruit and vegetable and spongy material trends in fashion. He then led an evaluation of the prototypes according to these requirements. The group did not feel that the remotes sufficiently met the criteria. They decided to continue working on the design and to take out the LCD screen and voice recognition. They discussed the modular design and its advantages in attracting customers. The group discussed how to incorporate the fashion trends; it was suggested that one shape was used, which could be customized with skins. Darren Rogers led an evaluation of the group's experience on the project. The group was pleased with the teamwork and leadership, but one participant complained that not enough information was given about each meeting's agenda.

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Brian Mills: I'm Timothy Wiles: Welcome Brian Mills: sorry Timothy Wiles: back. Brian Mills: to be late. Timothy Wiles: Welcome back everybody. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Thanks. Timothy Wiles: So this meeting agenda will be the detailed design meeting. And uh opening and uh P_M_s of the meet minutes, uh prototype presentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes. Brian Mills: Agnes, yes. Timothy Wiles: Yes and uh evaluation criteria. The finance, it's uh from my side, from the management, and uh production evaluation. Then uh closing. So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the product and project and to move further, okay, so Okay, let's talk about maybe first uh for the prototype. Kent Mitchell: Mm, okay. Timothy Wiles: So I handle to Kent Mitchell: I've done presentation, but it pretty much covers work that we've both done, so if I'm missing anything, Christine Timothy Wiles: So Kent Mitchell: can Timothy Wiles: shall Kent Mitchell: just Timothy Wiles: I go to Brian Mills: Uh thank Kent Mitchell: correct Timothy Wiles: sorry. Brian Mills: you, Kent Mitchell: Glen Carter. Brian Mills: so you did a Timothy Wiles: Yep. Brian Mills: PowerPoint Timothy Wiles: S Brian Mills: presentation, good for you. Timothy Wiles: Okay, let's go to A_M_I_. Kent Mitchell: It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation in the world, but Timothy Wiles: So in two or three or Kent Mitchell: Three. Um. No Glen Carter: Probably. Kent Mitchell: it's think it's the last Glen Carter: Technical Kent Mitchell: one. Glen Carter: pa I would think. Kent Mitchell: No, then this is the la yeah, that Glen Carter: Ha. Kent Mitchell: one, final design. Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Kent Mitchell: It is named appropriately, you just couldn't see the name. Um okay I have Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: Thanks. Alright, so from when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting, we decided that we wanted an ergonomic shape, the material that we chose was wood, and uh the colour would be customisable, 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour. Um, so in terms of function, you have to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control, and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design, if we figure out it's too expensive, well then you just take it off. Um, so to unveil our lovely product. This is our remote control, with the flip panel as you can see. So if you lift up the panel, you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display. Um, this is actually hard to do. The yellow button you have is the on off button, so it's really big, hard to miss. You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume. So up volume up, down volume down. The green are the channel changing. S And it's one of those very light, very touchable displays. And then you have the numeric pad in the dark blue at the bottom, and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on the T_V_, and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition. So this is pretty much what we had on the white board the last time. Timothy Wiles: Mm-hmm. Kent Mitchell: So. Brian Mills: Um and uh Kent Mitchell: Oh Brian Mills: I Kent Mitchell: yes. Brian Mills: could Yeah the Kent Mitchell: Additional Brian Mills: d Kent Mitchell: feature on the back is that you can have your own customised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front. So that you can really make this a highly highly customisable remote control. Brian Mills: We haven't um uh specified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed. That depends on the uh s design of the circuit board inside and uh what room is left um Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: I think the microphone is on on the top, uh Brian Mills: Yes, Timothy Wiles: on the middle, Brian Mills: okay. Timothy Wiles: the under the flip. Brian Mills: Uh-huh. Timothy Wiles: So that will be the safe, so p any the chip it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone to Brian Mills: No, I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board. Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: But it shouldn't be under the flip either, because you can have the remote control closed, but you still might want to Timothy Wiles: Uh it's Kent Mitchell: activate Timothy Wiles: it's Kent Mitchell: it by voice. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk, okay, so then you can speak then you can close it. But if you put it on the on the flip, okay, then uh technical I don't think it's uh feasible, 'cause most of the time you speak then it will be recognised. Kent Mitchell: But if you've already got the remote control in your hand you need to open the flip to use the voice, why use the voice, why not just use your hand? I mean the whole point of the voice is that if the remote control is sitting there and I'm too lazy to reach over and pick it up, I can just use my voice. Brian Mills: Maybe I've got my hand in the popcorn bowl and I'm holding my cup of Coca-Cola in the other hand. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. And you Glen Carter: I Kent Mitchell: don't Glen Carter: don't Kent Mitchell: wanna let Glen Carter: wanna Kent Mitchell: go Glen Carter: say. Kent Mitchell: of either one. Glen Carter: Louder. Yeah. Kent Mitchell: I mean it doesn't have to be on the flip, it can be on the side Glen Carter: Can Kent Mitchell: somewhere. Glen Carter: also be on the side. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, the sides maybe Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: is good. So That's good idea. Brian Mills: Mm-hmm. Kent Mitchell: So, I mean I can pass this around if Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: anyone Timothy Wiles: So it's Kent Mitchell: wants Timothy Wiles: maybe good Kent Mitchell: to Timothy Wiles: idea. Brian Mills: Yeah, y better you pass it around with a napkin. Glen Carter: No, because y you can easily put a microphone on the side that would have Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Glen Carter: no problem Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: would haven't been not be damaged or anything, and it'd Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: be accessible all the time to voice. Kent Mitchell: Yeah, exactly. Glen Carter: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: So it's maybe good idea. S s Brian Mills: It's um Glen Carter: Compliments to the artist. Brian Mills: It's um You need to work on the weight a little bit. Kent Mitchell: Yes. Glen Carter: Uh. Timothy Wiles: Okay. S I'm Kent Mitchell: And maybe Timothy Wiles: fine, Kent Mitchell: the shape Timothy Wiles: I'm satisfi Kent Mitchell: of the buttons, the little Timothy Wiles: I'm satisfied. Kent Mitchell: egg shapes aren't the most economical, Brian Mills: We're glad Timothy Wiles: Of course Brian Mills: you're Timothy Wiles: it's Brian Mills: satisfied. Kent Mitchell: but Timothy Wiles: it's it's looks more heo heavy, but I think when it's completely maybe it's a less weight. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. I mean this is plasticene. There's Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: only so much you can do. We could have possibly made it a lot thinner as well. But And part of the thing is m a lot of people say that they don't like something that's too light, because they don't feel like they have enough control over it. Brian Mills: Mm-hmm. Kent Mitchell: So I mean maybe this is excessively heavy, but I think it needs to have some weight, it needs Timothy Wiles: Yep. Kent Mitchell: to feel like you're still holding something. So that's pretty much it for our presentation actually. Timothy Wiles: That's your uh prototype model? Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: Okay, that's good, thank you very much. So any comments or uh Glen Carter: Well, the prototype is very within the design and ideas that we've we've about on previous meetings. Timothy Wiles: Okay. Glen Carter: Now it goes into this next phase as the financial Timothy Wiles: Yes, that Glen Carter: uh marketing Timothy Wiles: uh Glen Carter: uh Timothy Wiles: So I'll come back to the Timothy Wiles: So evaluation criteria, I think uh that will be good, so then let's come to the finance uh, I have some uh calculations which I made uh as for uh the budget. So here you can uh look like uh the energy and uh dynamo and uh kinetic and solar cells. Uh it's optional, somewhat optional and Ed wants the chip on print, that's what uh we were talking about that. So then we have sample sensor and sample speaker, then uh we have the wood material, then special colour and push button. So it's uh actually, our budget was uh twelve point five Euro, but uh it's coming to nine point nine five Euro, so we are under uh below the budget, okay, so still we are saving some money. I think it's a good figure. Brian Mills: Yes, great I I'm surprised. Congratulations. Timothy Wiles: Than thank you. Glen Carter: Well we haven't come to mine yet, so Brian Mills: Oh, okay. Glen Carter: we're Brian Mills: It's Glen Carter: gonna have a Brian Mills: gonna Glen Carter: bit Brian Mills: cost Glen Carter: of Brian Mills: a Glen Carter: difference Brian Mills: long Glen Carter: of opinion, Brian Mills: way Glen Carter: yes. Brian Mills: to c you know, cost a lot of money to market it, is it? Timothy Wiles: So maybe it's for some money we can utilise for our uh marketing, for the sales, okay, and uh Glen Carter: Well, it just depends on if we're gonna add a o on this pr provisionary cost analysis, we do not have a L_C_ display. L_C_ display is gonna be very expensive, Kent Mitchell: No Glen Carter: it's gonna Kent Mitchell: we do, Glen Carter: be Kent Mitchell: but it's not filled in. It's Glen Carter: It's Timothy Wiles: It's Glen Carter: not Kent Mitchell: number Glen Carter: it doesn't Kent Mitchell: thirty. Brian Mills: Thirty. Glen Carter: say. Timothy Wiles: not. Glen Carter: We don't Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: have the price Kent Mitchell: Oh, Glen Carter: up Kent Mitchell: yeah, Glen Carter: there, Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Kent Mitchell: yeah, you're Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: okay, Kent Mitchell: right, sorry, Brian Mills: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Kent Mitchell: yes. Glen Carter: so if we add approximately two to three Euro per remote, now we're up around about twelve, twelve and a half as to what uh the company had initially uh requested. Brian Mills: So that Glen Carter: Um Brian Mills: means we can put the uh Glen Carter: Display Brian Mills: the L_C_D_ Glen Carter: in. Brian Mills: in, yeah. Glen Carter: But as far as production um I'm putting up a question because we're talking about profit also, and in mine you'll see uh the problem with uh our survey, the p the possibility that how many units can be sold, what percentage of the market, etcetera etcetera because that has to be taken in into consideration. Uh this is just production cost, it is not uh advertising cost, it's not transportation cost uh Timothy Wiles: Yes, so still uh we have twelve point five Glen Carter: And Timothy Wiles: Euro. Glen Carter: that will inflate Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: quite a bit the cost of the uh Timothy Wiles: Yeah, Glen Carter: the Timothy Wiles: but Glen Carter: cost of the unit Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: for the company. Timothy Wiles: Yep. Kent Mitchell: Um-hmm. Glen Carter: So to come up with what the company wants is a fifty million Pound profit, we're gonna have to go a long ways. Timothy Wiles: Yes. This we are talking about one unit, okay, so Glen Carter: Yes. Timothy Wiles: when it go into the quantity, okay, and the cost will come down. Glen Carter: Slightly. Brian Mills: Although customisation, because this is being done, you know, the on on-order basis, Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: It's Brian Mills: it Glen Carter: gonna Brian Mills: might Glen Carter: be very Brian Mills: be Glen Carter: hard Brian Mills: uh Glen Carter: to Brian Mills: the the quantity Kent Mitchell: Yes. Glen Carter: reduce. Brian Mills: won't m won't uh the circuit board will b you're right, would be in producing quantity, but the cost of the case would uh be fixed at the Uh you got some pretty cheap labour that can do this case for one Euro. Glen Carter: That's Brian Mills: That's Glen Carter: not bad. Brian Mills: really that's the cost of the material Timothy Wiles: Yep. Brian Mills: and lab wow, that's Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Brian Mills: really outstanding. Timothy Wiles: But anyhow, still we are under control, okay, so what uh I will do is I will try to negotiate with the vendors, okay, to get uh the production cost less, okay, so then we can save some money, okay, to put into th our marketing or uh you know the promotions, whatever, okay, so that uh I will look after. I will speak to the management and how to get uh you know some more uh cost down. Glen Carter: If we can go to to my display. And we'll come back to yours Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: just to give everybody an idea of the market. So now I'm gonna scare everybody out of this project. If I'm still here. Timothy Wiles: You're in four? Glen Carter: Yep. The four gives Glen Carter it's gotta be uh Timothy Wiles: TrendWatch. Glen Carter: TrendWatch. Brian Mills: Is this the same one you did before? Glen Carter: No. Brian Mills: Okay. Glen Carter: It shouldn't be if Kent Mitchell: That's Glen Carter: it's not it's not the right one. Kent Mitchell: no, Glen Carter: No, Kent Mitchell: I think Glen Carter: no Kent Mitchell: it's the Glen Carter: we Kent Mitchell: same Glen Carter: g Kent Mitchell: one. Glen Carter: no, that's the same one. You have to go back and find another one. Whatever name it popped up under. Uh Kent Mitchell: Functional. Glen Carter: functional, try functional, it might not be it either, but we'll see. Kent Mitchell: It looks like it, there's Glen Carter: Yep, that's Kent Mitchell: S Glen Carter: it. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Glen Carter: So we'll go screen by screen. Timothy Wiles: Okay. Glen Carter: Although since uh we need to have some type of idea on a market uh we had independent study that says it this this market has an availability to absorb eight mi eight million units per year. Okay? Our internal company evaluation puts it between eight to nine million which is approximately the same as the independent study. Timothy Wiles: Yep. Glen Carter: So if we continue, we'll look at the findings. Next screen. Which means that uh if we have a target of two million would the company has to take twenty five percent of the market in the first year, Timothy Wiles: Mm-hmm. Glen Carter: which is actually a tremendous amount. Brian Mills: Yeah, no kidding. Glen Carter: No kidding, yeah. Brian Mills: Mayb maybe they already expected Glen Carter: So, Brian Mills: something. Glen Carter: if we put an inflated price of fifty Euro at a production cost that cannot exceed twenty-five Euro, okay, we're already in that that price, Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: okay, with transport, promotion, labour, because we hav gi included the promotion in the cost, Kent Mitchell: Um-hmm. Glen Carter: transport for the material to the stores or whatever how however we're gonna break this down between our our retailers. Twenty-five percent of the market to get to two million units. At two million units, we have to have a profit of twenty-five Euro per unit to get to the fifty million unit Eu Timothy Wiles: Mm-hmm. Glen Carter: Euro profit. Timothy Wiles: Yep. Glen Carter: Okay? So, obviously we w w I just did a run down the evaluation of the form, the fan uh the fancy stylishness of the of the unit, the ease of use, speech recognition, cost, we've gone through these. Now, the company must evaluate the feasibility of being able to take enough of the market to justify in production. Or we project this over two years, but being that the market changes very very quickly, maybe Timothy Wiles: Yes. Glen Carter: there's no more interest in buying this thing in eighteen months from now. Timothy Wiles: Yep. Glen Carter: So, Timothy Wiles: Of Kent Mitchell: Mm. Timothy Wiles: course. Glen Carter: now we have to come up with a decision. Can the company sell two million units? Timothy Wiles: Yep. Glen Carter: Can it sell it for Brian Mills: Could Glen Carter: fifty Euros? Timothy Wiles: Yep. Brian Mills: could I go to findings? Uh uh um I would uh like to explore the possibility of using um alternative um delivery and sales channel which would be um to use the internet Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: I was thinking the same Brian Mills: for Kent Mitchell: thing, Brian Mills: promotion Kent Mitchell: yeah. Brian Mills: and ordering and then to drop-ship the p product to the customer's Kent Mitchell: Directly. Brian Mills: residence. That way you have no storage, you have no um you do have transportation, Kent Mitchell: Um-hmm. Brian Mills: still have the labour cost, but you don't have the transport to the uh point of sale. Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: The point of sale is Timothy Wiles: To the Brian Mills: online. Timothy Wiles: agents. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. You can do a shipping centre somewhere, or strategically place shipping centres Brian Mills: Right, Kent Mitchell: to minimise Brian Mills: like Amazon. Kent Mitchell: distance Brian Mills: In fact, Kent Mitchell: costs. Brian Mills: we Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: should sell through Amazon, don't you Timothy Wiles: Or Brian Mills: think? Timothy Wiles: eBay, or Brian Mills: Or eBay, yeah. Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: There's an idea. Going Timothy Wiles: Yeah, that's a good Brian Mills: with Timothy Wiles: idea. Brian Mills: um Timothy Wiles: To impro more profit Glen Carter: S Timothy Wiles: and Glen Carter: Upscale Timothy Wiles: uh Glen Carter: technology. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, yes. Brian Mills: Ah, we we're do you know, selling a Glen Carter: Well. Brian Mills: unique product uh. Kent Mitchell: That actually makes more sense if we're gonna make it so highly customisable, 'cause on the web people can look at the different options they have, see maybe what other people have done, what Brian Mills: Mm. Kent Mitchell: the range of possibility Glen Carter: There are several Kent Mitchell: as, Glen Carter: companies Kent Mitchell: whereas Glen Carter: that Kent Mitchell: if Glen Carter: have gone Kent Mitchell: you're Glen Carter: that Kent Mitchell: in a store, Glen Carter: way. Brian Mills: Mm. Kent Mitchell: you can't unless you're a highly imaginative person, you may not really know what it is you want, whereas on the web, if you have a bunch Brian Mills: Mm-hmm. Kent Mitchell: of pictures, it can sort of trigger ideas and Brian Mills: And you can even have an a movie that you can rotate the object and look at the Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: di the only thing that you're missing really is the Kent Mitchell: The Brian Mills: weight. Kent Mitchell: weight Glen Carter: Weight, Kent Mitchell: and feel. Glen Carter: the feel of the Brian Mills: Mm. Glen Carter: product, Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Glen Carter: but Brian Mills: We're getting used to that. It's not quite like trying on a shoe, but people Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: are getting used to buying things online that they can't touch Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: before Glen Carter: There are several Brian Mills: buying. Glen Carter: that have gone through with the watches, too. You can customise a watch, you can see how it is at the f Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Glen Carter: at the end of the production, Brian Mills: Uh-huh. Glen Carter: you can change it uh There's a lot of online that's that is doing Kent Mitchell: Yes. Glen Carter: this now. And when you're rotating, you'll look behind and look this way uh it's possible to do with this, Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: know, feasibili feasibility uh lower the price of the unit. Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Timothy Wiles: We can. Brian Mills: Great. Timothy Wiles: I don't think that's uh not possible, it's uh okay then, l uh let's wait for the production, okay, then uh you can evaluate the product, so how it looks like technically and uh how it look like uh the real. Kent Mitchell: What turnaround time do we have? Timothy Wiles: T Kent Mitchell: 'Cause I mean production evaluation can Timothy Wiles: Oh Kent Mitchell: be Timothy Wiles: but Kent Mitchell: very very quick or very very Timothy Wiles: Yes Kent Mitchell: long. Timothy Wiles: it's it's very quick, of course. It will uh come back in two weeks, okay, it will be ready in two weeks. Brian Mills: Works for Glen Carter. Timothy Wiles: For evaluation, okay. Brian Mills: Prototypes, you mean. Timothy Wiles: Yes, the Brian Mills: In Timothy Wiles: prototype Brian Mills: um Timothy Wiles: uh prototype product evaluation. Brian Mills: We probably should do some market tests Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: uh once we have the prototypes Glen Carter: Well, obviously. Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: and do some orders Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: and things like Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: that and test-market it. Glen Carter: Mm that'd Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Glen Carter: have to be thrown out on the market for people to get an idea, to Timothy Wiles: So Glen Carter: see Timothy Wiles: you can take Glen Carter: get Timothy Wiles: a Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Timothy Wiles: minimum two Glen Carter: get Timothy Wiles: weeks Glen Carter: their Timothy Wiles: to a maximum four weeks. Yeah. Kent Mitchell: it's not a trivial task. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, because we we are not going to do it in uh our factory, okay, so we can Kent Mitchell: No Timothy Wiles: give it Kent Mitchell: no. Timothy Wiles: a product Kent Mitchell: We Timothy Wiles: evalua Kent Mitchell: definitely shouldn't do it Timothy Wiles: Yes, Kent Mitchell: in our factory. Timothy Wiles: yes. So we'll do it in the other place, and I don't think it's take more than four weeks time. Or uh Okay, so then the real production we will start once we product evaluation, okay then, uh it's approve from uh the technical team and uh your team, okay, uh from the management, then we can launch in the market. Hm? Brian Mills: Any outstanding? Timothy Wiles: S Any any other uh questions or uh comments to be discuss? Brian Mills: No, Kent Mitchell: What ab Brian Mills: I'm Glen Carter: I think we Brian Mills: go Glen Carter: pretty Brian Mills: ahead. Glen Carter: much covered everything. Timothy Wiles: Okay, so then Brian Mills: Did you Timothy Wiles: uh Brian Mills: have something? Kent Mitchell: Well I was just wondering about if we're gonna do a product evaluation then what about time for redesign if the users come back and tell us no this is bad, this is bad, we want this done differently. Timothy Wiles: Okay uh, let's take like this. Let's proceed with this model, okay, for the for the marketing direction, okay. So no more changes will be made, okay, in this the basic design. Okay? So we will introduce m this model and uh let's introduce in the market and let's take the feedback from the customers, then we can uh go for the Brian Mills: Second generation. Timothy Wiles: second generation. Okay. There's no end, there's not limit. Kent Mitchell: The problem is there Timothy Wiles: Every Kent Mitchell: might not Timothy Wiles: every Kent Mitchell: be a second Timothy Wiles: custom Kent Mitchell: generation if the first generation Glen Carter: Well, then it Kent Mitchell: flops Glen Carter: may not be. Kent Mitchell: for some silly reason Timothy Wiles: Okay. Well, every Kent Mitchell: that Timothy Wiles: customer, Kent Mitchell: we haven't thought Timothy Wiles: okay, Glen Carter: Like Kent Mitchell: of. Glen Carter: people Timothy Wiles: they have Glen Carter: don't Timothy Wiles: their Glen Carter: like Timothy Wiles: own Glen Carter: wood. Timothy Wiles: ideas, they have their own test, okay, so there's no end, there's no limit. Kent Mitchell: No, but there's a difference between releasing a product that has been minimally tested and fine-tuned to suit a general range of requirements versus releasing a product that we think will work but we don't really have anything to back Glen Carter: very Kent Mitchell: it Glen Carter: specific. Kent Mitchell: up. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, so that's the reason you are here for uh the design, okay, I hope you made a Kent Mitchell: Yes, Timothy Wiles: good design. Kent Mitchell: but I'm not everybody. I mean the whole point of user evaluation is to see what real people need. We have our own motivations in mind, we have our own ideas in mind, but that doesn't mean that that's what's gonna sell. Timothy Wiles: Yeah, but uh see, we ought to take a few considerations, okay, one is the price consideration, one is future consideration, okay, like uh you can eat uh you can all eat more chi I can eat more chilli, okay, so i it's a depends on the individual taste, you know, so we have we have to balance somewhere. Kent Mitchell: Yeah, of course. I'm just trying to point out that I think that your evaluation and redesign turnaround time is too short well you have no redesign not you personally, but Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: in the project Brian Mills: Our Kent Mitchell: we Brian Mills: project Kent Mitchell: have no Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Brian Mills: doesn't Kent Mitchell: redesign time Brian Mills: um Kent Mitchell: and Brian Mills: Ed, d do you know what season of the year or time of the year is the most important for T_V_ remote control sales? Glen Carter: Hmm. Brian Mills: Would it be the Christmas season by any chance? Timothy Wiles: The sports time. Brian Mills: Sports season. Glen Carter: Right before Brian Mills: Which Glen Carter: the Eur Brian Mills: sport Glen Carter: the Brian Mills: season? Glen Carter: World Cup. Timothy Wiles: Football. Glen Carter: World Brian Mills: So Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Glen Carter: soccer. Brian Mills: so Glen Carter: World Cup soccer, they need those things Timothy Wiles: Football. Glen Carter: that they have Brian Mills: maybe Glen Carter: their hands Brian Mills: what Glen Carter: g occupied and they need to be able to talk to the con remote control. Brian Mills: So I think what we need to do is perhaps to synchronise the final the the launch of a user-tested Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: device with some special event. Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: Yeah, that's Brian Mills: And Kent Mitchell: a good idea. Brian Mills: and then um so that gives us a little more time perhaps then we anticipated, because I don't know when the World Cup is, but I'm sure there's gonna be one. Glen Carter: Or any major sports. Brian Mills: Or another m major sports event. Probably not the um the football games coming up the end of January. I think that might be a little too aggressive Timothy Wiles: Yes. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: um, but, so, I'm just ig uh pointing out a uh a strategy to uh do some additional user testing Timothy Wiles: Research. Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Brian Mills: pri and then to launch um at a a major sports event or Timothy Wiles: Yep. Brian Mills: uh perhaps to uh Kent Mitchell: That's Brian Mills: also Kent Mitchell: actually good place to advertise it too. Brian Mills: And to work with Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: motion pictures. There might be some motion pictures that are coming out um that are coming out on D_V_D_ that uh they need to have a m special remote control to work with it, so we could maybe work out a campaign with uh with Sony Pictures Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: for example. Maybe Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Brian Mills: some management has got uh relationships there we can leverage. Timothy Wiles: Yes, the that of course uh I will convince the management to do that, okay. Brian Mills: That's great. Kent Mitchell: It's just something to to keep in mind, 'cause it's really really important. Timothy Wiles: Sure, sure, Kent Mitchell: A lot of products have Timothy Wiles: yes. Kent Mitchell: gone out there without being properly user-tested and completely flopped, when in fact it gets re-released a few years down the line with proper testing and it takes off like crazy. Brian Mills: Disposable diapers is an example of that in fact. Kent Mitchell: Really? Brian Mills: Yes, Kent Mitchell: That I didn't Brian Mills: it is one of Kent Mitchell: know. Brian Mills: the first consumer products that was launched about thirty years that was a disposable consumer product, and uh people the market hadn't really gotten on to the concept that you could use something and then throw it away, Kent Mitchell: Mm-hmm. Brian Mills: 'cause it wasn't uh but then when they re-launched them thirty years later, they were virtually the same design, but people had gotten the throw-away, you know, paper cups and napki y all kinds of things that they hadn't um so, Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Brian Mills: you're right, timing is very important, Timothy Wiles: Yeah. Brian Mills: a good product. Kent Mitchell: Yeah. Timothy Wiles: That's the reason Ed is here. I Brian Mills: That's Timothy Wiles: think he Brian Mills: right. Timothy Wiles: can promote the the brand value and the product value. Brian Mills: It's gonna be very important to the Timothy Wiles: Yes. Brian Mills: company. Timothy Wiles: We are behind the scene and he is the front screen, so. Kent Mitchell: Yep. Glen Carter: Yeah, I'm the one Timothy Wiles: He's Glen Carter: who takes Timothy Wiles: on Glen Carter: the Timothy Wiles: the Glen Carter: heat. Timothy Wiles: big screen. Kent Mitchell: Exactly. Brian Mills: Good luck, Ed. Glen Carter: If it's a flop, it's the marketer. Brian Mills: You look very relaxed, Glen Carter: Yes. Brian Mills: considering h you know, the Glen Carter: Yes. Brian Mills: uh Glen Carter: Stress. Brian Mills: the weight on your shoulders, yeah. Timothy Wiles: Okay, so then uh let's come to the closing and Glen Carter: Celebration. Timothy Wiles: uh are the costs within the budget and uh is the product evaluated, okay, so that will uh come soon. Okay for uh but our time being, so thanks for all your efforts and great work and uh great design and uh let's leave it to the Ed for later for once production is over and the meantime let's celebrate. So let's meet up uh this evening to hang up for some party. Brian Mills: Sounds good. Timothy Wiles: 'S good. Kent Mitchell: Okay. Brian Mills: Thank you. Glen Carter: Very good. Brian Mills: Nice working with you. Glen Carter: Thank you very much. Timothy Wiles: Thank you. Kent Mitchell: Thanks. Timothy Wiles: Thank you again for all. And Glen Carter: Bye-bye. Timothy Wiles: see you in the evening for drinks. Glen Carter: Yep, okay, see Kent Mitchell: Bye. Glen Carter: you later on.

Kent Mitchell presented the prototype of the product to the group. The product featured an LCD display, a flip panel, and a customizable case back. Timothy Wiles displayed the cost of all of the components, and the group decided that the current budget would not allow the addition of the LCD display. Timothy Wiles decided to negotiate the cost of production to allow the addition of the display. Glen Carter gave a presentation on sales projection and showed that the current projected sales point would probably not allow the project to reach its profit aim. The group also discussed the distribution and promotion of the product on the internet. Kent Mitchell expressed concern that there would not be time under the current plan to make changes to the product resulting from consumer testing; Timothy Wiles decided that no additional changes would be made. The group then discussed other means of promoting the product: launching the remote at the same time as a large sporting event or DVD release.

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Steven Flanagan: Okay. Hello everyone. Wade Mann: Hi. Charles Stewart: Hi. Ronald Villamar: Hi. Steven Flanagan: Um how uh we doing Wade Mann: Yeah, good. Steven Flanagan: Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting, more or less. Ronald Villamar: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presented uh her method of working, meaning gathering i suggestions from everyone to see how she best could market uh this this product at the within the budget uh that was given. Uh in general the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use. Um it's also an item people lose So we should address that. And, of course, it should be something s s that is very simple to use. In addition to that to make it sell, of course, uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive, or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another so that the people are buying it now because, in particular with smaller items, that's a very important fact, 'cause um if they say, well, I go home and think about it, that won't work. Um also mentioned was it should be uh it should have a very short learning curve. And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan. Wade Mann: Hmm. Steven Flanagan: Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. Therefore, messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. There should be extra features like lid buttons, maybe a beep. If too many buttons are pressed, mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um you could see the time, you know, what show they want to watch. Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. So the components of the thing should be button, bulbs, infra infra-red bulbs, battery, chips, wires, and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item. Francino who is our um Ronald Villamar: Interface designer. Steven Flanagan: interface designer um uh has mentioned that the that it, of course, should have an on-off button, and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. It should be compact. Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature. And even possibly a timer to so that people can program their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote. Ronald Villamar: Yes. Steven Flanagan: Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time? Wade Mann: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: Yes Steven Flanagan: Okay. Charles Stewart: Yeah I think pretty much is it. Yeah. Mm-hmm Steven Flanagan: Okay, then we I'm looking for three presentations. And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh, I don't I don't think so, so whoever Ronald Villamar: Okay, Steven Flanagan: w wants Ronald Villamar: I can start first. Steven Flanagan: Yeah, okay. Ronald Villamar: Okay. Now my slide, Steven Flanagan: Okay, Ronald Villamar: please. Steven Flanagan: your slides. Okay. Oh, come on, close already. And that's number two, right? Ronald Villamar: Three. Steven Flanagan: Three. Ronald Villamar: Participant three. Yes. Ronald Villamar: Okay. Steven Flanagan: Okay. Ronald Villamar: Now as an interface designer, I would give more emphasis on the interface, how the remote looks like so that it is sellable, it is attractive to customers. Next, please. Okay. Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. This messages could be uh switch message or to next message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel, like you can have the numbers one, two, three, four, up to nine. Steven Flanagan: Nine what? Nine channel uh switches? Ronald Villamar: Pardon Charles Stewart? Steven Flanagan: Nine channel switches? Is Ronald Villamar: Yes, Steven Flanagan: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: nine Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: numbers. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: And then you have swapping of uh button Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: by which using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. Then it should have a next button, and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh Wade Mann: Going Ronald Villamar: mm Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: to the nex Ronald Villamar: eh Wade Mann: next. Ronald Villamar: scrolling the channels one Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: by one. Next slide, please. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: Then, there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. For example, if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English, Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the the subtitles on the screen. Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour, colour of the picture, the contrast, sharpness, brightness of the picture. Now there should be a memory switch. There should be a mute button. Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call, and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T_V_, but he he can reduce the sound, he can bring the volume down and he can watch he can uh while talking he can watch the T_V_. Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers, you can record your own voice Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television, for example, if you want to see we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel, uh th now the the uh yeah, the remote Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: will automatically it will switch to the ninth channel. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: So the T_V_ will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. So this is one one of the interface which can be created. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features. Then, please, Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: next slide. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: Then, these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour, but they have many buttons. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. So you can you can design an interface which is very simple, and which is user-friendly. Even a kid can use that. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. Yeah, so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: And this has multi-purpose use, it can be used for T_V_, it can be used for cable-satellite, it can be used for V_C_R_, D_V_D_s and audio. And this has in-built voice recogniser. Can you go on to the next slide? Yeah, now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: Uh this is user-friendly, it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. And this comes with different colours, different shapes. Wade Mann: Mm. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons and all the important uh buttons are there in this small, compact, attractive child interface. Next slide, please. Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace. Charles Stewart: You don't know Ronald Villamar: this. Charles Stewart: Charles Stewart. I could Ronald Villamar: So this Charles Stewart: lose Ronald Villamar: is Charles Stewart: that Ronald Villamar: No Charles Stewart: in a minute. Ronald Villamar: this is a very big, you cannot misplace it anywhere. So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: This i this is one such interface which can be created. And the personal preference uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: uh function. Steven Flanagan: Right. Ronald Villamar: Thank you, that's Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: Okay, thank you very much. Uh any comments on uh her presentation? Charles Stewart: Well, um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there. Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Charles Stewart: Um what uh I'm No suggestion's bad. Ronald Villamar: Mm yes. Charles Stewart: But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. I don't think that we can get uh the too big to misplace, I think it's just funny. Um I Ronald Villamar: Okay. Steven Flanagan: Yeah, I I th I think Charles Stewart: don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter. Ronald Villamar: Okay. Charles Stewart: It's it's gonna be a little bit Steven Flanagan: No, Charles Stewart: too Steven Flanagan: I Charles Stewart: unwieldy. Steven Flanagan: think the these are her presentations, Charles Stewart: Yeah Steven Flanagan: but Charles Stewart: mm. Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: uh as far as the decision making we getting Charles Stewart: Have Steven Flanagan: to Charles Stewart: to Steven Flanagan: that Charles Stewart: come back Steven Flanagan: after Charles Stewart: to that Ronald Villamar: We Charles Stewart: later. Ronald Villamar: can. Steven Flanagan: after Charles Stewart: Okay. Steven Flanagan: but if I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her Charles Stewart: No, Steven Flanagan: presentation. Charles Stewart: I think her presentation was good, and Steven Flanagan: Mm right. Charles Stewart: she really explored all the options. Yeah. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Ho who wants to go next um? Wade Mann: Yeah, maybe. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Okay, and you Wade Mann: Participant two. Steven Flanagan: Uh okay. Wade Mann: Uh the next one, sorry. Steven Flanagan: Oops. Wade Mann: It's it was the old one. Components. Steven Flanagan: The components design. Mm-hmm. Okay. Wade Mann: Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: and the technical side of the remote controller design. Uh, can you go on to the Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: next slide, please. I have just brief uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction. Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit, battery, etcetera, etcetera, it's like Uh it can be a plastic one, hard plastic, so that it can be strong, even if you just uh uh, you know, if you if it falls down, then it doesn't break. So it should be strong. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. And it should be recyclable. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: Uh and Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: uh, Charles Stewart: Good point. Wade Mann: yeah, and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours, blue, red, green, so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit. Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it you should we should have a highly sophisticated one. And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside, it should it should uh be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. And uh it should be with uh um equipped with timer and alarm facility. And the uh other component we should uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery, capacitor. Can you Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: go on to the next slide, please? Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: Uh a diode, a transistor, a resonator, these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are which we have to use in a remote controller. A battery uh, I would like to suggest one thing uh if we uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery, Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much. It it it's not a high voltage battery. Then also we can If it is a rechargeable one, then uh people can use it for a long time, so in that way we can cut cut the cost, but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. Can you go to the next slide, please. And how it works, how the remote controller works. When you press a button Steven Flanagan: Go away. Wade Mann: Thank you. Uh when you press a button, when you do that, you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button, and it will send some signals through the wires, and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. Suppose you have pressed channel one button, number one you have pressed, then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed. It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. Every button, every individual button, has its own morse code. Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one, then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b that that button, and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L_E_D_ which translates the signal into infrared light. Like you have got a signal by pressing a button. That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. Now, that signal, that morse code, has to be amplified by the transistor. That is the use of transist transistor we which we use in the remote controller. It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L_E_D_ and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. The sensor on the T_V_ can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately, that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal, then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. Then it will do the appropriate action. So uh this is how the remote controller works. Ronald Villamar: It works. Wade Mann: Can you go to the next slide, please. Yeah, I have few pictures. remote controller uh it's it's it this is a normal remote controller. Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: And to the next slide, please. And where we had a a few buttons and all. And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: and few electronic components, like you can see a chip there Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: which is having eighteen pins, and also a capac uh a capacitor, three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm yeah, and di and a diode transistor. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: The electronic components uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d diode transistors an Yeah, di um can y uh you can see the T_A_ double one eight three five Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: labelled Ronald Villamar: Mm Wade Mann: uh Ronald Villamar: yes. Wade Mann: chip Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Charles Stewart: Yes. Wade Mann: um. Uh you can also see the uh uh the green two green things are uh these are they are they are resistors, Ronald Villamar: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: and uh just beside that you can see a transistor, and a uh uh cylinder shape, uh that one is a capacitor. Uh and also there are uh um resistors uh sorry, ther there is a diode. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: Can you go Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: go on to the next slide. So uh this is the circuit board. The green one is a circuit board. Actually, uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper, because uh uh when you when you are building uh some circuits some um uh circuits and also wires, it's it's better to go for printing, because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing, nothing Ronald Villamar: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: like uh, you know, you don't need to use wires and all. It's not exactly wires we are using. It's just printing something on a board. Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. So th that green uh thing is a circuit board, and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons, like when you press a button, the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it Ronald Villamar: Transmit. Wade Mann: will ch its ch se send a signal signals to the, yeah, um integrated circuit. Can you go to the next slide, please. Uh so this is these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. Uh can you see the black uh, round marks? Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: They Charles Stewart: Yes. Wade Mann: they are the circuits. Next, please. And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like instead off buttons we have some scrolls. Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it, but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. Charles Stewart: Okay. Wade Mann: Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and Ronald Villamar: Okay. Wade Mann: k uh uh uh full a complete chip. Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery, a more ingenious uh hard dynamo, um a kinetic provision of energy, more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. So that also we can have in a battery, uh or we can use solar sells. Charles Stewart: Hmm, Wade Mann: Uh. Charles Stewart: that's interesting. Wade Mann: Yeah. Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. Uh usually, the cases and card flat that w we Ronald Villamar: Okay. Wade Mann: see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller. Um. Steven Flanagan: Okay. Wade Mann: Yeah. Steven Flanagan: And you have more pictures. Uh we have five minutes to the end Wade Mann: Yeah, Steven Flanagan: of the meeting. Wade Mann: maybe d uh I have just one more slide, I think. Um. Like we can have a ma material such as plastic, rubber, wood, titanium, but titanium we can't use. Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re or an advanced chip on the print, um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. Um yeah the uh for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. An Yeah, that's it. It's all for Charles Stewart now, thank Steven Flanagan: Okay, Wade Mann: you. Steven Flanagan: well thank you. Any particular comments by anybody? Charles Stewart: Uh yeah, on the scroll and the push-button, um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button? Wade Mann: No, no, no, th the the the scrolling wheels are different, like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls, Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: uh which which we used to do before ten ten years before, I think. Now, nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all. So I think Charles Stewart: Um. Wade Mann: it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons. Charles Stewart: We'll just go for push Wade Mann: Yeah Charles Stewart: buttons Wade Mann: uh yeah, Charles Stewart: for Ronald Villamar: Push-buttons. Charles Stewart: in Wade Mann: push-buttons. Charles Stewart: the interest Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: of cost. Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: Okay. Steven Flanagan: We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision, and Charles Stewart has to present her Charles Stewart: Okay. Steven Flanagan: her Charles Stewart: Go right Steven Flanagan: thing. Charles Stewart: to my first my next slide. Steven Flanagan: Uh okay. Charles Stewart: Um alright, my method is uh I'm interested in what the competition is doing, and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition, so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. I s I spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that, I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have, and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. And I would encourage you all to do the same. Um and my findings from this is that, you know, small is beautiful. Um people like something that really fits in their hand. Ronald Villamar: 'Kay. Charles Stewart: Simple is beautiful. They don't want to have to squint at small print um, they want buttons whose functions are obvious, and they want um as few buttons as possible, and they don't care for the mode thing. They want each button to do something. And eye-catching is important. It's gotta look cute, it's gotta look appealing. Go ahead, I'm trying to finish fast for you. Um and our preference is, as far as I'm concerned, are we got to get to the market before the competition. Ours has to be look really great and it has to come out before the others, so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. If we try to tell people it has too many great features, um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. So we've gotta narrow our selection down to li two things, I think, that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. And I've been looking around um at what designs every year different things are popular. And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. They are more back into soft feel, spongy feeling things, things with maybe a little cloth on them. So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item. Ronald Villamar: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: Okay. Uh that concludes the presentation of everyone. And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote. Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: And uh so what do we think on the concept of the remote? Charles Stewart: You wanna try to come back to yours, and Ronald Villamar: Uh yes, Steven Flanagan: Y Charles Stewart: limit Ronald Villamar: I would Charles Stewart: yours Ronald Villamar: like Charles Stewart: a Ronald Villamar: to Charles Stewart: bit? Ronald Villamar: include this feature which is called as voice recogniser. Charles Stewart: Okay. Steven Flanagan: Okay. Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Charles Stewart: So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned? Wade Mann: Yeah, but w Charles Stewart: Yeah h that could that Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: could Steven Flanagan: I Charles Stewart: that Steven Flanagan: think Charles Stewart: could Steven Flanagan: that's Charles Stewart: be our star feature. That that be really good, yeah, Wade Mann: Yeah, Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Charles Stewart: I agree Wade Mann: but Charles Stewart: with Wade Mann: but Charles Stewart: that. Wade Mann: I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how how uh far it will work, because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems, Charles Stewart: Distance Wade Mann: issues. Charles Stewart: problem? Wade Mann: Yeah, it's not distance problem it it's Ronald Villamar: Mm-hmm. Wade Mann: recognising a person's voice, like maybe different people will be having different voices, so Charles Stewart: Uh. Wade Mann: it like it's uh everything Steven Flanagan: Well, Wade Mann: so Steven Flanagan: you you Wade Mann: i Steven Flanagan: teach You have to teach Wade Mann: So Steven Flanagan: uh Wade Mann: to get a good recogni recognising Ronald Villamar: No, Wade Mann: system, Ronald Villamar: it's Wade Mann: it's Ronald Villamar: it's, Wade Mann: a Ronald Villamar: uh yeah, Wade Mann: costly Ronald Villamar: it Wade Mann: thing, Ronald Villamar: it's Wade Mann: I think. Ronald Villamar: like your recording of uh all uh um a question already, and then you're expecting an answer from th For example, you have a T_V_ system, I'm the user Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: and my family members are the user, I will already record Wade Mann: Yeah, but Ronald Villamar: uh Wade Mann: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: a question Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: like, uh good morning, like around eight o'clock I want to see the news Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: in the television. So I'll say just good morning and the T_V_ will switch on. Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: It will recognise my voice Wade Mann: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: and will switch Steven Flanagan: Okay, Ronald Villamar: on. Steven Flanagan: before we get too far off here um, the components of the concept is the energy. What kind of energy do we foresee? Charles Stewart: I Steven Flanagan: Battery. Charles Stewart: think I think battery, Steven Flanagan: Battery. Ronald Villamar: Battery. Charles Stewart: and I think we all agreed on that. That Ronald Villamar: Yes. Charles Stewart: that's that's gonna Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: be most cost-effective Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: and the best thing. Steven Flanagan: Okay then chip on print. Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: Yep. Ronald Villamar: Yes. Steven Flanagan: Okay. And the case. And I think we all agree on the case, we wanna have something uh maybe bright, colourful. Wade Mann: Yeah. Charles Stewart: Bright, colourful, Ronald Villamar: And compact. Wade Mann: And also strong. Charles Stewart: trendy trendy design, Wade Mann: Trendy, Ronald Villamar: Trendy design Charles Stewart: and strong. Wade Mann: yeah. Ronald Villamar: and compact. Steven Flanagan: Mm-hmm. Trendy design, compact and strong. Charles Stewart: Mm-hmm. Ronald Villamar: Yes. Steven Flanagan: User interface concept, uh interface type, supplements That will be your Wade Mann: Uh. Steven Flanagan: area I think, right, Jana. Wade Mann: Um like the switches, like we use buttons for user interface. Ronald Villamar: Push-buttons. Steven Flanagan: Put uh k Wade Mann: Push-buttons. Steven Flanagan: I guess uh for yeah. And Not sure what they mean Ronald Villamar: And Steven Flanagan: by supplements. Wade Mann: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: Supplements Charles Stewart: Well, I think Ronald Villamar: like Charles Stewart: that Ronald Villamar: different types of features buttons, Charles Stewart: Yeah, Ronald Villamar: like can Charles Stewart: or Ronald Villamar: have Steven Flanagan: Oh, Ronald Villamar: a Steven Flanagan: like Ronald Villamar: f mute button Charles Stewart: or Ronald Villamar: or Charles Stewart: like her speech Ronald Villamar: a Charles Stewart: recognition Steven Flanagan: Oh. Ronald Villamar: swapping Charles Stewart: would also Ronald Villamar: button. Charles Stewart: be a supplement. Her Steven Flanagan: A what? Charles Stewart: speech recognition Steven Flanagan: Right, Charles Stewart: feature Steven Flanagan: right, Ronald Villamar: Recogniser. Charles Stewart: would Steven Flanagan: right, Charles Stewart: be a supplement. Steven Flanagan: mm-hmm. Wade Mann: Mm yeah. Ronald Villamar: Yes. Charles Stewart: Okay, so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible Wade Mann: Hmm. Charles Stewart: pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Charles Stewart: that is. Wade Mann: Yeah. Steven Flanagan: Right. Ronald Villamar: Yes. Steven Flanagan: Okay. Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes, and the uh I_D_ is to this is the individual actions to be taken until then, to have the look and feel design, and uh the U_I_D_ is supposed to uh come up with the user interface design, Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: and Charles Stewart with the product evaluation. Charles Stewart: Okay. Steven Flanagan: In this phase, the two of you, Jana and Francine, have to work together on a prototype Ronald Villamar: Okay. Steven Flanagan: using modelling clay, it says here. You will receive Wade Mann: Mm-hmm. Steven Flanagan: specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches. Ronald Villamar: Okay. Steven Flanagan: Um if you have any questions, you know, you you can always uh contact Charles Stewart um or uh or your coach, I suppose. Charles Stewart: Wherever they're hiding? Steven Flanagan: Um so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes, Wade Mann: Yeah. Ronald Villamar: Okay. Steven Flanagan: according to our timetable here. Thank you very much. Wade Mann: Thank Ronald Villamar: Thank Wade Mann: you. Ronald Villamar: you.

Steven Flanagan opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting. The interface specialist begins her presentation by highlighting important remote functions and showing examples of remote interfaces. The group comments on her presentation, and then Wade Mann begins presenting. She talks about the technical electronic components of the remote, explains how a remote works, and shows a few pictures revealing the insides of a normal remote control. She suggests giving the remote a strong shell so it is durable, using a rechargable battery, and not adding a scroll wheel because it requires a sophisticated chip. Charles Stewart presents, talking about user preferences for a small, simple, eye-catching, cute, appealing, and functional remote. Fruit and vegetable shapes are popular this year, so a soft, spongy remote perhaps covered with cloth could make the item marketable. The group discusses the issues surrounding speech recognition, noting that if it is good quality it could be costly. They about the power source and review the objectives of the product. Steven Flanagan closes the meeting by telling each member what task she is to complete.

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Kevin Unterseher: Well hi everyone again. Gail Eddie: Hello. Darryl Boling: Hello. James Cotner: Hello Kevin Unterseher: Um like before uh I have to redo the meetings from n th the minutes from the last meeting James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: and so here we go. Uh it was discussed in the last meeting uh which was opened by the presentation from the interface um Gail Eddie: Designer. Kevin Unterseher: designer that uh looks would be very important on this new remote and um it is to send messages of course to the T_V_. It should have nine channel buttons, a button volume buttons buttons, switch to control features, colour contrast, sharpness etcetera. It should have a memory switch, a mute button in case the telephone rings or something. Uh speech recognition is one of her very f favourite personal uh features she would like see d d to be integrated in this um in this new remote. Um. Should be child friendly design with few buttons, colourful maybe with s star shaped or other shaped buttons. Um she uh presented also an oversized remote which she guarantees nobody will ever be able to lose. Um James Cotner: And she was challenged on that point Kevin Unterseher: that's right. Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: But uh her very f personal favourite really she, she would very much like to see a speech recogniser integrated in this remote. Darryl Boling um presented her uh thoughts on the issue. She would like a special case made out of plastic that is very strong, not using any harmful materials, should be recyclable and should be colourful. Should have an integrated circuit board that's highly sophisticated and temperature resistant. She would like to see a timer and or alarm facility integrated. Uh technically this thing would also have a resistor and a capacitor, diode transistor, resonator, and if possible a rechargeable battery. Uh and of course a circuit board. And how it would works, you press the button, the chip is morse morse code related relays the uh to the generat to the generator amplification and uh the circuit board is very inexpensive to build James Cotner: Okay. Kevin Unterseher: and so she thinks this is a great feature uh to to to consider. She would like uh this whole thing should be push buttons with a simple chip uh scrolling method is more expensive and not that practical anymore. Should be battery operated and of course she would have the special cases. James Cotner uh who has to finally come up with to to to market this product has been watching the competition, has done some research on the internet and also has used h her personal observations to come up with the fact that such a remote sh should be small, easy to use and it should be eye catching. From her point of view of course one of the most important facts is that we should get to market before our competition does. To do that uh maybe one or two features should be developed on which we could dwell on or in other words on which our campaign could be built on. Too many new features or too many points would only confuse matter. So we prefer to have one or two features that can be really uh driven home. Um it should have a fruit and vegetable design and should have a soft feel. She feels that's really what people want today. And the decision that we took last time was that uh the special feature we would like to see is a speech recogniser, the energy should be battery uh should be on a chip, should be trendy design, compact and strong, and should have buttons. And that concludes the presentation from the last minutes from the last meeting. Now uh we are ready for the presentation of the prototype. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Gail Eddie: Yeah. Just the look like, the button part I'll explain. Darryl Boling: Yeah. so this what uh we have made This is a model of the remote control which we are going to build. Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Uh this is us in a snail shape James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: so uh it it is attractive um and it's it's blue in colour James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: uh bright and uh it has yellow buttons and all the different colour buttons James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: so it is a uh uh a looks-wise it is beautiful. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Uh and also compact in shape. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Good. Darryl Boling: Yeah, oops, sorry. James Cotner: You used to have all the buttons Darryl Boling: Um yeah and um uh the material which we are going to use for the case is uh plastic and uh w which which is s strong um uh and also uh for the Um the material is plastic and uh for the buttons it is uh s soft rubber um and James Cotner: Oh Darryl Boling: als James Cotner: that's good, Darryl Boling: yeah. James Cotner: no, that's nice and friendly. Darryl Boling: Yeah because uh uh you'll be touching the buttons James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: more so James Cotner: Mm. Darryl Boling: it is soft when you Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm, Darryl Boling: touch James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: it. Kevin Unterseher: mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: And then um uh for the for the led, for the light emitting diode it James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: is a fluorescent green and James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: it's a a it is a bulb like an ordinary infrared. And and the button button's part uh will be explained by F Francina. Gail Eddie: Okay. James Cotner: Okay. Gail Eddie: Now the um we decided upon including certain features on our remote. Now these features includes the s um signal emitting uh signal it's the led James Cotner: Yeah, Gail Eddie: or James Cotner: okay, Gail Eddie: L_E_D_ Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm, James Cotner: mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: the infrared. Now uh we have included the switch on and off button. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Now we have included another feature that is the mute button James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: on the side of the model. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Then we have included one to nine buttons the programmes the different channels. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: We have also included two buttons for increasing or decreasing the volume. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: And we have also included two buttons for scrolling up and scrolling down the programme channels. James Cotner: Mm. Gail Eddie: Now our our model also contains a button which is called as the menu button. Kevin Unterseher: What kind of button? Gail Eddie: Menu button. Kevin Unterseher: Menu? Uh menu Gail Eddie: Yes, James Cotner: Menu Kevin Unterseher: th menu, Gail Eddie: menu James Cotner: button. Kevin Unterseher: uh one one. Gail Eddie: At the centre James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: we have included a button which is fluorescent green colour and this is the menu button which will control the colour, sharpness, brightness James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Of the screen. Gail Eddie: of James Cotner: Mm, Gail Eddie: this James Cotner: mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: uh picture. We have also included a button which is called as the swapping button. Now this is uh a special, special feature which we have included. Now this button is an elongated shaped button and this is slightly flexible so if it is turned towards the right it will take to the previous channel, if it is turned towards the right it will take to the next channel. It will take the user to the previous and the next channel so this is a swapping button. James Cotner: The next channel in the numeric pattern, or Gail Eddie: No, swapping is if if example you're you're watching the second channel James Cotner: Yeah, mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: and then you go to the tenth channel and if James Cotner: Mm. Gail Eddie: you want to go back to the second channel you can swap, this button. James Cotner: Okay, Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: okay. Gail Eddie: And at the end, it this remote has inbuilt voice recogniser which Kevin Unterseher: Okay. Gail Eddie: c which will recognise the user's voice Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: and then it'll act accordingly. Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: So James Cotner: Okay. Gail Eddie: this is our proposed model. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Now James Cotner has to Darryl Boling: Tell, yeah. Gail Eddie: give her suggestion whether it'll be sellable or it'll be cost effective. James Cotner: Okay, well um what what I really like a lot about it is that you can reach the whole thing with one thumb, Gail Eddie: Yes, James Cotner: that Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: you can really hold it in Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: one h you don't need two hands and it's easily reachable even for somebody with a small hand, yeah? Kevin Unterseher: Yes the buttons are all raised, right? James Cotner: The buttons Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: are all raised Kevin Unterseher: Are raised, James Cotner: and Kevin Unterseher: mm-hmm. James Cotner: if you hold it in the centre of your hand you can even reach it over here Kevin Unterseher: Right. James Cotner: so you don't have to turn it around, turn it upside down, Kevin Unterseher: Or have two hands James Cotner: move Kevin Unterseher: to operate James Cotner: it up, Kevin Unterseher: it, James Cotner: up Kevin Unterseher: yeah. James Cotner: and down, I really like that. You really Gail Eddie: Mm. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: did a good job on that, my little designers. Um and um I like the idea that the on-off button is in a really prominent place. That's that's a really good good Kevin Unterseher: Yes, James Cotner: thing. Kevin Unterseher: and it sort of sticks up so James Cotner: Yeah, Kevin Unterseher: that James Cotner: that's great. Kevin Unterseher: you really you don't have to g Darryl Boling: Hmm. Kevin Unterseher: first go like oh yeah James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: here Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: it's on Gail Eddie: Abs Kevin Unterseher: and Gail Eddie: okay. Kevin Unterseher: yeah, mm-hmm. James Cotner: The colour's very attractive. Um the um these buttons uh around here are the mute Gail Eddie: No, James Cotner: and Gail Eddie: these the front buttons James Cotner: these Gail Eddie: which are here, James Cotner: mm-hmm Gail Eddie: are the mute buttons. James Cotner: On both sides they're Gail Eddie: Yes, James Cotner: mute? Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: So you can push either one? Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Okay. Kevin Unterseher: So if you're left-handed or right-handed James Cotner: And Kevin Unterseher: it James Cotner: this Kevin Unterseher: doesn't James Cotner: brings Kevin Unterseher: matter. James Cotner: the menu up on the screen? Gail Eddie: Pardon James Cotner? James Cotner: This brings Gail Eddie: This James Cotner: the menu Gail Eddie: is the James Cotner: up Gail Eddie: menu James Cotner: on the Gail Eddie: yes, James Cotner: screen Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: and the orange ones are Gail Eddie: A the the these these two are th to increase or decrease the volumes, James Cotner: Okay. Gail Eddie: and these two are to uh scroll the programme channels. James Cotner: F f okay. Right, Gail Eddie: Scroll James Cotner: very good. Gail Eddie: up or scroll down the channels. James Cotner: Uh it looks mm looks like something I can sell. Okay and now I'm supposed Kevin Unterseher: Well, James Cotner: to Kevin Unterseher: I have one question James Cotner: yeah. Kevin Unterseher: uh will there be anything written on the buttons, like that people know, or they have to learn that from a piece of paper which button does what? Gail Eddie: Yes, Darryl Boling: Ah. Gail Eddie: it will have uh these Darryl Boling: Yeah, Gail Eddie: buttons Darryl Boling: definitely. Gail Eddie: will have the numbers and all the rest of the buttons will have symbols. Kevin Unterseher: Will have symbols Gail Eddie: Yes, Kevin Unterseher: so that James Cotner: Yeah. Gail Eddie: which Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: that Gail Eddie: can be easily Kevin Unterseher: that Gail Eddie: recognised. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: the user really knows Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: you know Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: and doesn't have Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: to first James Cotner: Good point Kevin Unterseher: learn James Cotner: because Kevin Unterseher: it James Cotner: we need Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: the symbols 'cause we're going Darryl Boling: Yeah James Cotner: into Darryl Boling: of James Cotner: an Darryl Boling: course, James Cotner: international Darryl Boling: and James Cotner: market Darryl Boling: also James Cotner: we can't Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: have anything Darryl Boling: Hmm. James Cotner: that's language Kevin Unterseher: Yeah. James Cotner: dependent. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: But Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: anyway it would ha i i i it Darryl Boling: Yeah Kevin Unterseher: has Darryl Boling: we Kevin Unterseher: to have some Darryl Boling: can Kevin Unterseher: kind of of James Cotner: Symbols Darryl Boling: Text. James Cotner: on Kevin Unterseher: symbols, James Cotner: it. Mm-hmm, Kevin Unterseher: text Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: or something James Cotner: mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Text Kevin Unterseher: so that Darryl Boling: that Kevin Unterseher: people Darryl Boling: we can Kevin Unterseher: kn Darryl Boling: have on the case itself, we can Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: That's Darryl Boling: it Kevin Unterseher: right. Darryl Boling: will James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: be printed on the case and Kevin Unterseher: Okay, Darryl Boling: symbols Kevin Unterseher: yeah Darryl Boling: as Kevin Unterseher: just Darryl Boling: well Gail Eddie: And Kevin Unterseher: wanted Darryl Boling: as Kevin Unterseher: make Darryl Boling: the Kevin Unterseher: sure Darryl Boling: buttons. Kevin Unterseher: of Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: that mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: and one James Cotner: Mm, Gail Eddie: more James Cotner: 'kay, mm. Gail Eddie: feature is we we have a holder for this remote James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: which is an oyster shape. A shell shape. James Cotner: For the snail, Kevin Unterseher: Right, James Cotner: yeah, Gail Eddie: Yes, Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: mm-hmm, Kevin Unterseher: mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: we have Darryl Boling: So James Cotner: the snail Darryl Boling: it is James Cotner: shell. Gail Eddie: Yes, Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: yeah, Gail Eddie: snail James Cotner: He Gail Eddie: shell. James Cotner: goes right back Darryl Boling: yeah James Cotner: into his Darryl Boling: shell. James Cotner: shell. Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: Right. James Cotner: Well you know I think we could do something really funny with this too because the snail is known to be slow Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: and we could have some sort of little comic effect on our marketing Gail Eddie: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Mm. James Cotner: about how this is a rapid snail Gail Eddie: Y Yes James Cotner: or something Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: like that Darryl Boling: of James Cotner: you know that Darryl Boling: course, James Cotner: would, that would Darryl Boling: yeah. James Cotner: really work. Kevin Unterseher: Now what, James Cotner: So Kevin Unterseher: what are our special features for the marketing? That's really the voice recognition that's really unusual James Cotner: I think voice recognition is our big selling point Darryl Boling: Mm. James Cotner: 'cause Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: nobody else seems to have that Darryl Boling: Mm. James Cotner: in in this price range. Kevin Unterseher: And then, and then the other thing would basically be sh shape or practicality of use. James Cotner: Yep uh Kevin Unterseher: You James Cotner: well Kevin Unterseher: know. James Cotner: I think that everybody's gonna say their remote control is practical. I think we have Kevin Unterseher: Colours. James Cotner: to, we have to dwell on on on the appearance. Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: We're really gonna have the be the Kevin Unterseher: Cutest. James Cotner: cutest remote control on the block. Darryl Boling: Mm. Kevin Unterseher: Yeah. James Cotner: So I think we have to play with the image, play with the snail image um play with the visual and then the voice recognition. I Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: think those are the two things to push. The look and the voice recognition. They're gonna be our two selling points. Kevin Unterseher: Okay, now uh having said that James Cotner: I'm supposed to make a little presentation, aren't I? Kevin Unterseher: No, now this was our evaluation criteria which James Cotner: Okay. Kevin Unterseher: we uh just have done. Now we're gonna talk about financing. James Cotner: Ah, but in my instructions I think it said I was supposed to go to the board and do something. No? Kevin Unterseher: Well, there is a production evaluation. Is that you? James Cotner: Yeah, that's James Cotner. Kevin Unterseher: But that's after the financing. James Cotner: Oh, okay. Kevin Unterseher: See? James Cotner: Sorry, Kevin Unterseher: Fi see? James Cotner: sorry. Mm-mm. Kevin Unterseher: Um. had looks and voice recognition. Okay now on the financing we bring up the mm there it is. Okay uh energy source we say that's battery, right? Darryl Boling: Mm. James Cotner: That's right. Kevin Unterseher: Okay, now. So we I guess we use one. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: What? T cell or chart you are trying to change is protected. Well, that's nice. She told James Cotner I could just ch change it here and then it would It doesn't work. Hmm. James Cotner: Can you just fill it in in the yellow boxes? Or Kevin Unterseher: Oh, okay Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: yeah, okay, let's see. Okay, Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: one, okay. Oh go away. Um kinetic source so that's in the energy source that's all we need. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Uh electronics, simple chip on print? Is Darryl Boling: Yeah, Kevin Unterseher: that's Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: what we're using? Darryl Boling: yeah. Kevin Unterseher: One of those? Come on. Okay, one. Uh regular chip on print. No. Darryl Boling: No. Kevin Unterseher: That's all we need, the Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: one case, uncurved flat, single curved, double curved. James Cotner: Well. Darryl Boling: This is a Gail Eddie: Single curve? Mm. James Cotner: I guess it's double curved. Kevin Unterseher: Double curved? One of those? James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Case materi s supplements. Plastic we said, Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: right? Gail Eddie: Plastic. Kevin Unterseher: Uh wood, rubber? James Cotner: Rubber, Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: because we're gonna have the soft buttons. Kevin Unterseher: Uh but, yes but Darryl Boling: I think uh that is uh f for rubbers Kevin Unterseher: That's Darryl Boling: that is Kevin Unterseher: just Darryl Boling: uh yeah Kevin Unterseher: for the case Darryl Boling: case Kevin Unterseher: material, Darryl Boling: material. Gail Eddie: Is this for the Kevin Unterseher: so James Cotner: Oh Gail Eddie: case? James Cotner: okay, Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: the mm-hmm, Kevin Unterseher: special James Cotner: mm' kay. Kevin Unterseher: colours though, we having that, right? Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: And then we have to interface push buttons. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Scroll wheel, no. Integrated scroll wheel, L_C_ display? James Cotner: No, Gail Eddie: No. James Cotner: 'cause Kevin Unterseher: Button. James Cotner: we didn't put the clock in it after all, right? Kevin Unterseher: No. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Uh, Gail Eddie: Speci Kevin Unterseher: button supplement special colour? Gail Eddie: Yes Kevin Unterseher: Special form? Gail Eddie: Yes James Cotner: Yes. Gail Eddie: d we do have special form. Kevin Unterseher: And special material, rubber, wood, yes. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Okay. Total seven point six whatever that means. Darryl Boling: Uh, I think that's the Kevin Unterseher: That's Gail Eddie: One two Kevin Unterseher: the Gail Eddie: three Kevin Unterseher: price. Darryl Boling: price. Gail Eddie: four five six seven eight nine Darryl Boling: Maybe Kevin Unterseher: Mm? Darryl Boling: it is it just n Kevin Unterseher: Eight, eight point two. Gail Eddie: Nine Kevin Unterseher: That's Gail Eddie: points, Kevin Unterseher: hmm? Gail Eddie: okay, yes. Kevin Unterseher: Eight point two, right? So, we looks like we are well within budget. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Okay. Kevin Unterseher: Okay. I guess I should save this I suppose, huh? James Cotner: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Oops. Kevin Unterseher: Uh-huh huh huh. Gail Eddie: On the desktop. Kevin Unterseher: I just tried that. My Darryl Boling: AMI. Kevin Unterseher: documents, computer. My Darryl Boling: AMI Kevin Unterseher: compu Darryl Boling: should for Kevin Unterseher: Ah oh here it is, yes. Okay, fine. Save. Okay good, so that's the good news. We gonna be popular. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Um. So that uh I think financing was pretty simple. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Now we would like to have a presentation by James Cotner on production evaluation. James Cotner: Okay, I'll take my file down so you can bring it up. James Cotner: 'Kay should be able to get it now. 'Kay, why don't you move just to the next slide right away. Kevin Unterseher: You wanna go to the next slide? James Cotner: Yeah right away. Kevin Unterseher: Okay. James Cotner: Okay, well uh obviously my method for uh s m the marketing of this thing is first to ask the big question, will it sell? And I think we should show this prototype to people from various age and socio-economic groups and see about any fine tuning Gail Eddie: Okay. James Cotner: that maybe little things we Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: haven't thought of. We can't accept every suggestion of course, but maybe we just Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: need to get a few. And show the the prototype to consumer research groups, we don't s want somebody to suddenly come to us and tell us that this button is toxic and Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: you know some child will swallow it and then we won't sell any. Darryl Boling: Mm. James Cotner: So we have to get some input from those people. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: And then after that we just have to go with our best intuition and you know we like it, we think it's good, we're gonna get behind it and sell it. Um, next slide please. Okay, now the things that I was thinking and th my wish list has really been realised in this prototype. I wanted the shape to be biomorphic, I didn't want anything with angles and all square, I wanted it to be comfy and roundy. The size is small, the colour's bright and warm which is what we wanted. We wanted the feel to be as soft as possible, we'll have the soft buttons Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: and the way this is shaped, even though it's gonna be hard plastic, it feels good in your hand so that's nice. And functionality I put last on my list because people aren't going to use it before they buy it. So paradoxically the other features, in other words, the look, the feel um and the shape, Gail Eddie: Fee James Cotner: that's what people are Gail Eddie: selling. James Cotner: gonna get in the store. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: They don't have a television in the store, they can't play with it. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Um so they'll be our main selling points. So um th those have been fulfilled by your prototype and go ahead to the next slide please. Okay, so um the shape um I think is a a one. That's really, really excellent shape. The size is small um and th these points are in the importance for the, for the marketing, these aren't i in how I feel. I think that it's I think that it's plenty small enough to sell but I think we're sort of right the scale is one to seven. I think we're sort of right in the middle as far Gail Eddie: Okay. James Cotner: as c other competitors. And our colour I think is great. The colours are bright and warm and we really do great job there. And given um the constraints that we had I think we got it as soft as possible. And then functionality um I think you did a really good job on functionality, obviously we could have ad added different functions but then we'd disturb something else so I would say that we got to a five out of seven on on functionality. So Gail Eddie: Okay. James Cotner: I think Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: that basically we've got a great product and we can get off and running with it. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Um I just realised one thing. James Cotner: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: In the financing there was no room for our voice recogniser. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Ah. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: And uh I don't know how we can evaluate that or how we can include that, too. James Cotner: Well, um we had what, eight eight euros twenty as our cost? Kevin Unterseher: Eight, eight twenty, yes. Darryl Boling: Eight twenty James Cotner: And Darryl Boling: so James Cotner: so we've got Darryl Boling: We James Cotner: we've Darryl Boling: have James Cotner: still Darryl Boling: um James Cotner: got four euros Darryl Boling: four James Cotner: to go Darryl Boling: euros, yeah James Cotner: to spend. Kevin Unterseher: I mean maximum we have another four point three euros James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: I mean four thirty. James Cotner: Well um that's Kevin Unterseher: But I mean we have no way of presenting that to management as you know as a f finished, as a finished product and saying okay with the voice recogniser that costs so much. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: So um we just have to beware of that. I mean Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: and know whether the four thirty will really cover that. James Cotner: Well Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: as we know in today's technic technological world you can do just about anything at any price, the the the problem is quality. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: So we're just gonna have to settle for whatever quality Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: that will buy Gail Eddie: Yes, James Cotner: us. Darryl Boling: yeah. Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: And um it may not be the greatest quality but it may sell anyway. Darryl Boling: Yeah, Kevin Unterseher: Yeah. Darryl Boling: still. James Cotner: As we've seen with so Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: many of these kinds of products. Kevin Unterseher: I'm sorry to interrupt then but I just uh recog I just remembered that there was no that that was not um included Darryl Boling: Included, yeah. Kevin Unterseher: uh that there was no room for any Darryl Boling: Hmm, Kevin Unterseher: special features, Darryl Boling: hmm Gail Eddie: Yeah mm. Kevin Unterseher: okay? So to beware of that. You wanna go to this next slide, marketing James Cotner: Uh, Kevin Unterseher: expert? James Cotner: well I isn't this my last slide? Maybe. Kevin Unterseher: I dunno. James Cotner: Go ahead. Kevin Unterseher: Yes James Cotner: I think Kevin Unterseher: it James Cotner: that Kevin Unterseher: is. James Cotner: was my last slide, yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: Um. Mm okay. And I'm supposed to present this scale on the whiteboard. Um and we're supposed to talk about those things as a team now, so if you put my last slide back up there. Kevin Unterseher: Oh. James Cotner: I'm sorry I've um forgot to do that, um. Kevin Unterseher: Why? Wh why you need that up? James Cotner: Hmm? Well because I can't remember what I put on there. Okay. Now I'm supposed to see how long my leash is here. Kevin Unterseher: I think you can make it there. James Cotner: Mm 'kay. You ready. So now we're all supposed to say what we think. Um okay so on shape I gave it a one. Wait what would you ra uh one being good and seven being the worst. Gail Eddie: Worse, okay. James Cotner: Um what do you think the shape is? Gail Eddie: One. James Cotner: One, okay, and Be Betsy? Kevin Unterseher: Yes I think uh shape is one. Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: Okay, uh-huh Darryl Boling: even my yeah, shape James Cotner: one, Darryl Boling: is one. James Cotner: okay. And how about on size? On size Kevin Unterseher: You you gave it a four. James Cotner: I gave it a four, yeah, I feel it's just average. Kevin Unterseher: Um, I dunno. I think I would give it at least a two. James Cotner: Okay. Gail Eddie: One. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Darryl Boling: Yeah, even I think it is one. James Cotner: Okay. Darryl Boling: It's quite small. James Cotner: Okay you're the designer, of course you wanna give it a one. Um and then how about how we doing on colour? Kevin Unterseher: Colour uh I James Cotner: Colour, I gave it a one. Kevin Unterseher: One. James Cotner: I really like all those nice bright, warm Kevin Unterseher: I James Cotner: colours. Kevin Unterseher: I like the colours. Gail Eddie: One. Kevin Unterseher: One. James Cotner: One. Gail Eddie: Yes. Darryl Boling: Yeah, one. James Cotner: One, one, one, okay. And how about the feel? Taking into um consideration texture and comfort in the hand. Kevin Unterseher: Uh, I think I would give it a two. James Cotner: Okay, I gave it a three, two, Gail Eddie: I'll James Cotner: yeah? Gail Eddie: give three. James Cotner: Three. Darryl Boling: Uh maybe two, James Cotner: Two, okay. Darryl Boling: yeah. James Cotner: And the next is functionality where I I admit I was a little hard on our team here, but Kevin Unterseher: Well it's also you can't really try it out uh James Cotner: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: the other things you have have more is are more tangible so James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: from that point of view but um I'll give it a three. James Cotner: Okay. Gail Eddie: Two. James Cotner: Two, okay. Darryl Boling: Uh three, James Cotner: Three? Darryl Boling: mm-hmm. James Cotner: Okay. Well, um. It looks like we've got got ourselves a pretty good product. Um the functionality's the only place where maybe we have to think about m m maybe, heaven forbid, having another meeting. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: But um otherwise I think we're we're ready to go to go with this product. Anybody else have any other comments or any other things that we feel we should evaluate? Kevin Unterseher: Uh. Here is what we looking at uh satisfaction on for example room for creativity. Um. Is there more room for creativity or are we absolutely happy? Darryl Boling: Maybe Gail Eddie: We can Darryl Boling: we can Gail Eddie: always improve, yes. Darryl Boling: yeah, include some more buttons and Gail Eddie: Yes, Darryl Boling: uh Gail Eddie: features. Darryl Boling: um yeah features. We can make the buttons few buttons smaller. Uh I think they are quite big, so I think I I mean we can just have small buttons and more buttons in that case. If we want to have more features than that. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Well then again if we're gonna um do the speech recognition thing Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: we're gon there gonna be some buttons that are gonna have to be added Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: for that Darryl Boling: definitely. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: for the recording of the the speech. Gail Eddie: Voices. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: So that that's where we're gonna have to do maybe we can eliminate one of the mute buttons, Darryl Boling: Yeah, definitely, James Cotner: instead Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: of having two mute Darryl Boling: yeah, James Cotner: buttons. Darryl Boling: two mu mute Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: And Darryl Boling: buttons. James Cotner: um then maybe we can do something with the um the volume control. Maybe we can put that all on one button. Darryl Boling: Hmm. James Cotner: Um and a couple of other th maybe comp uh consolidate some of the usage an and see what we can do with that. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Y um al Gail Eddie: And Kevin Unterseher: always Gail Eddie: maybe Kevin Unterseher: bearing in mind that right now we are of course well within the budget James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: and that we still you know we probably can't, with this particular item, we probably can't just uh add a whole lot of more things. James Cotner: No. Kevin Unterseher: Uh Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: um we need uh you know we need to leave space money-wise James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: for the voice recogniser. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Gail Eddie: Yes. Kevin Unterseher: Um. Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: So th the question really is how do we feel with the project process? Uh, um are we happy with the creativity that has passed here or we're not happy with the new product we created or that was created? Uh I think personally I think uh I'm pretty happy. James Cotner: I'm pretty happy with Darryl Boling: Even James Cotner: it Kevin Unterseher: Um James Cotner: too, Darryl Boling: I'm James Cotner: yeah Darryl Boling: happy. James Cotner: um, it's Kevin Unterseher: an James Cotner: something I think I can market. Darryl Boling: Yeah. James Cotner: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: and then the next question is are we happy with the leadership of this project? Uh James Cotner: I think you've done a good job, Miss Gail Eddie: Yes, James Cotner: leader. Darryl Boling: Yeah, Gail Eddie: yes you've Darryl Boling: yeah, Gail Eddie: done Darryl Boling: definitely. Kevin Unterseher: And Gail Eddie: a good job. Kevin Unterseher: I think team work I think was very very good, James Cotner: Yeah Kevin Unterseher: I James Cotner: I Kevin Unterseher: think James Cotner: d Darryl Boling: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: I Kevin Unterseher: we James Cotner: do Kevin Unterseher: really James Cotner: too I think we Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: yeah. James Cotner: worked well together as a team, yeah. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Mm-hmm. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: And uh I think we are we happy with the means we used? We used whiteboard, we didn't use digital p well digital pens I guess are these things. James Cotner: Yeah maybe we could've used the whiteboard Gail Eddie: Whiteboard James Cotner: a little Gail Eddie: more, James Cotner: bit more, Gail Eddie: yes, James Cotner: yeah, Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: we Darryl Boling: probably. James Cotner: didn't use Kevin Unterseher: Yes, James Cotner: that Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: enough. Kevin Unterseher: we could. Uh, it's maybe not in the best position in the room um you know like sometimes it's positioned so that it's much better visible for everybody James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: and I think from that point of view we sort of ignored it a little bit. James Cotner: And we Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: used the slide because it was better positioned. Kevin Unterseher: Yes, Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: I think so, Gail Eddie: No. Kevin Unterseher: I think James Cotner: Mm Kevin Unterseher: absolutely, James Cotner: I think that's true Kevin Unterseher: and James Cotner: mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: fortunately we all had slides presentation which made it a little easier. Darryl Boling: Hmm. Gail Eddie: Yes. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Um did we new did we find new ideas? I think we did. Darryl Boling: Yeah, James Cotner: I think we were Darryl Boling: many. James Cotner: we were very good, Kevin Unterseher: I James Cotner: yeah, Kevin Unterseher: think James Cotner: mm. Kevin Unterseher: we we did, uh in more than one respect James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: and uh so I think we did very well here. James Cotner: Okay. Kevin Unterseher: Are the costs within budget? Yes, yes. Uh is the project evaluated? James Cotner: Yes, yes. Kevin Unterseher: Yes. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: Um James Cotner: Celebration. Kevin Unterseher: then celebration. Gail Eddie: Cel celebration yes, Darryl Boling: Ah. Gail Eddie: yes. James Cotner: Today we have apple juice and after we sell m million of 'em we have champagne. Kevin Unterseher: So I I thank you all very much. Um, I think this was very good James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: and Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: um I think we did come up with a new product that's uh feasible. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: Feasible from the production point of view and feasible from a marketing point of view. James Cotner: Mm-hmm. Kevin Unterseher: So, James Cotner: Okay. Darryl Boling: Yeah. Kevin Unterseher: thank you. Gail Eddie: Thank Darryl Boling: Thank you Gail Eddie: you. Darryl Boling: very James Cotner: Okay. Darryl Boling: much. James Cotner: Watch I I have my cord behind you Gail Eddie: Okay. James Cotner: here. Okay. Kevin Unterseher: I always get it on here, but getting it off is Darryl Boling: Do we do we have some time left? Uh you have Gail Eddie: They say it's forty minutes. Kevin Unterseher: Ah yes James Cotner: But Kevin Unterseher: we have time later but we don't James Cotner: we we were told we could end the final meeting at any time, Gail Eddie: Okay. Darryl Boling: Oh, alright. James Cotner: whenever we felt we were finished. It'll take James Cotner the rest of the time to get my microphone out from my necklace. Oh, there we go.

Kevin Unterseher opens the meeting by going over the minutes of the last meeting, detailing the main points of each person's presentation. They do the prototype presentation which includes a model of the remote control. The group discusses this proposed model, approving of the small size and look of it. They goes over finances and are pleased to find that they are well within budget. However, while James Cotner is doing the product evaulation the group realizes that they neglected to calculate voice recognition into the financing. Their cost had been 8.20 Euros and they have 4.30 left to cover it, so they decide to settle for whatever quality it will buy. They rate their product on its shape, size, color, feel, and functionality. They discuss the project process, talk briefly about adding more features, and one member suggests eliminating a mute buttons and include a diffferent feature. They are happy with the creativity, leadership, and teamwork within the group, and close the meeting by thanking one another.

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Sidney Doherty: So uh good morning. Ryan Thackaberry: Morning. Corey Piner: Morning. Carlos Hernandez: Morning. Sidney Doherty: I see you all find places. Is everybody Corey Piner: Yep. Sidney Doherty: sitting on the right place? Yeah? I guess so. So Let's see. First I will introduce myself. I don't know if uh if everybody knows Corey Piner, so I'm Corey Piner: My Sidney Doherty: Bart, Corey Piner: name's Frank. Sidney Doherty: hello. Hello. Ryan Thackaberry: I'm. Sidney Doherty: Bart. Hello. Hello. Bart. Welcome. Corey Piner: Thank you Sidney Doherty: Uh let's see. Uh let's start off um with a little presentation. Uh Now first I'll tell you a little bit about the setting. You can see are cameras here. They'll record uh our actions and you'll have wires and microphones that will record your voice. Uh there are also some microphones there but th um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those, because it will uh disappear when you don't attend to it. So is there a project documents folder? There are some notes in it already I see, some documents. Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off. Is being modified by the administrator. Uh okay. Corey Piner: Hmm, Sidney Doherty: Let's do it read Corey Piner: that's Sidney Doherty: only. Corey Piner: interesting. Sidney Doherty: Well I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're working for Real Reaction. Uh it's a company in uh electronics. We put fashion in electronics, uh we make it work, uh we put a lot of effort in design and in the product itself. I'm Bart Sidney Doherty so I'll direct you through the project. This is our agenda. Uh we have our opening acquaintance, tool training, project plan description closing. Uh maybe I can sit down, then I can take some notes or Let's see. Maybe you can take the minutes once in a while. Corey Piner: Sure. Sidney Doherty: I dunno it's not a lot of work, but just uh if you hear something uh you can write down, just write it down. Uh as you can see uh it's the opening, aquaintance tool training. Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit. Um have you all seen the corporate website already? Corey Piner: Yep. Ryan Thackaberry: Yep. Corey Piner: Visit Sidney Doherty: Yeah. Corey Piner: it. Sidney Doherty: Have you seen any flaws in it? I think I found one. No? Ryan Thackaberry: Hmm? Corey Piner: Can't say I paid much attention to it, Sidney Doherty: I can see if it works this way. No, it doesn't work here. Okay no problem. But um on the corporate information side there's a th uh there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction. Corey Piner: Oh yeah. Sidney Doherty: Real Remote is not really the company we're we are, but Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Sidney Doherty: it's just a little Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: fault. Um okay, what are we going to do? Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy, and user friendly. So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you. We've Corey Piner: Okay. Sidney Doherty: got Corey Piner for uh the trendy and user friendly look. And Industrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original. And we've got our User Interface Designer. Ryan Thackaberry: Yep. Sidney Doherty: He's also uh That's about the new remote control. Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through. First is functional des uh design, individual work, meetings. After the functional design, then the conceptual design and the detailed design. I had some role indications on here. But I think you know it already by yourself. Carlos Hernandez is going to work on the working design, uh components design and a bit of the look and feel design. Uh Ryan Thackaberry is going to do the technical function design, user interface concept and user interface design. And Corey Piner is doing a little bit of user requirement specification, trend watching and project uh product ev evaluation. So that's a bit what you're going to do. But that will be all worked out in uh other meetings. Then we've got our first tool training. We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here, so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit of training first. As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board. Um in the white board here there's a little tool bar on this side. Here are some functions. You can save. N uh these functions we don't have anything to do with, only undo, you can undo a little uh piece of drawing. A blank new document for each person. Uh select a pen, eraser. Capture we don't have to do anything with. Uh then we've got our pen. This pen. It's really Corey Piner: 'Kay. Sidney Doherty: funny because you can draw with it on this page um in the think it is form of. You can also select the current colour and the line width. Ryan Thackaberry: Hmm. Sidney Doherty: But then first you have to select the pen function. But we're going to work with it in a minute. So okay. Uh that's very simple and it's easy to uh draw your findings and drawings on there. Uh then a short thing about documents. We've got our shared folder, project project what was it? Project documents I think. But all you will found that already because there are a lot of documents in it already, so it will be okay. And these are available on the smart boards as well, Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Yeah. Sidney Doherty: Here is a simple tool bar. It's what I just said, it's save, print, move back or forward one page. You can switch between the different drawings. And then we're going to try out the white board. So as you can see we g all going to draw a animal. Just to uh uh just to get a bit familiar with it. Mouse wasn't running away. Corey Piner: That was interesting. Sidney Doherty: Is everybody is anybody playing with the mouse? No. Okay. Corey Piner: Innocent. Sidney Doherty: We're going to uh draw animal. And uh just sum up a few of its favourite characteristics. Um the only thing we have to uh look after is that we use different colours, and different line width. Uh there's I can start from now. I will. You can use this pen by holding it like a like a little child. Because if you hold it like this, the sensors will get blocked and then the Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Corey Piner: 'Kay. Sidney Doherty: drawing won't get good. Another thing is you have to be uh a bit slow. 'Cause if you're going to draw like really fast then um the pen won't hold up. So we choose form of current colour uh I think grey is appropriate. Then the line width. I think seven will be nice. Now you'll see my drawing capabilities. These are not very much, but uh Uh, see you have to do it real slow. Sidney Doherty: Oh Ryan Thackaberry: Sure. Sidney Doherty: Ah I was trying to draw a dolphin, but I think his nose has to be a little bit But it's close. Corey Piner: I'm thinking about a swordfish. Sidney Doherty: So what Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: yeah it's Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: this is bit of the swordfish. Yeah, he hasn't got an eye. Carlos Hernandez: Mm-hmm. Sidney Doherty: Woah. Now we've got another function. We've got the eraser. And then you can undo this easily. Corey Piner: Meat. Sidney Doherty: Ah it's okay. And I've got to write down a few of its characteristics. Uh is They've got no text tool, no. Uh. Sidney Doherty: Okay. This is typically a undo action, I think. Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: Pen. Maybe you have to hold it a bit upside-down. I think that's it because if you wan ar are going to do it like this then it will be a stripe. But I don't know, I'm just trying. This is not my work, okay. Corey Piner: Hmm. Sidney Doherty: Maybe you have to use Sidney Doherty: Oh. Sidney Doherty: Uh. I think it's a it wants to draw a another animal? I don't know. It lives for the fun. So It's my characteristic uh characteristic about the dolphin. It lives for the fun. Corey Piner: Okay. Sidney Doherty: So Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Sidney Doherty: now I'm gonna hand over the pen on the new blank sheet to you. Go Corey Piner: Thank Sidney Doherty: ahead. Corey Piner: you. Okay. Gonna use a different line width. Corey Piner: There. 'Kay, I'm not much of an artist, but here we go. Sidney Doherty: Maybe it's easier to draw the smaller line width, I think. Ryan Thackaberry: Hmm. Sidney Doherty: Because this is going a lot better than uh I did. Ryan Thackaberry: A sheep. Corey Piner: Mm. Corey Piner: Okay. This is my um Hmm. Sheep. Sidney Doherty: It's nice. Corey Piner: With of course Corey Piner: little Sidney Doherty: Uh. Corey Piner: blue dot they always get sprayed on their butts. Sidney Doherty: It's Corey Piner: There. Sidney Doherty: a real dead sheep, yeah. Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: For recognition, yeah, I see. Um maybe you can Corey Piner: 'Kay. Sidney Doherty: also write your name somewhere. On just a Corey Piner: They are Come on. Corey Piner: You have to go really slow when you're writing. Sidney Doherty: Yeah. Corey Piner: They're brilliant animal animals. And that's just a little Corey Piner thingy. So. Guess I'll pass the pen to our Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Sidney Doherty: Nice. Corey Piner: User Interface Designer. Ryan Thackaberry: Um I'm just gonna draw its uh head, but mm Let's see. Mm. Ryan Thackaberry: Uh. Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Corey Piner: Interesting. Sidney Doherty: Sweet. Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. You know what that is? Or who? Corey Piner: A rabbit? Carlos Hernandez: Garfield. Ryan Thackaberry: Ah okay, Corey Piner: Garfield. Ryan Thackaberry: yeah. Corey Piner: Yeah. Ryan Thackaberry: Just a Ryan Thackaberry: So uh Yeah. That's enough. Um, you say a blank, or Sidney Doherty: Yeah, just a blank Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Sidney Doherty: sheet. Carlos Hernandez: Well I was gonna draw a cat too, so. I'll just try something else. Sidney Doherty: No. Carlos Hernandez: Something different than Garfield. Carlos Hernandez: Mine is a bit more skinny. Sidney Doherty: Yeah, it's Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: pretty skinny cat. Carlos Hernandez: But uh Corey Piner: And the most interesting tail. Sidney Doherty: Is your cat, or did you find him on the street? Carlos Hernandez: Well, it's supposed to be a cat. I like cats because uh they are uh independent. Sidney Doherty: Ah. Carlos Hernandez: The pen. So. Sidney Doherty: Okay. That's pretty clear. So everybody knows how to work with the white board now? So Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: if you have any ideas or if you wanna Carlos Hernandez: The Sidney Doherty: draw Carlos Hernandez: pen. Sidney Doherty: anything on the white board, just ask and go ahead. It's pretty uh easy. 'Kay. S Corey Piner: We're being haunted. Sidney Doherty: haunted white board. So we've got the tool uh introduction. We move along to the project finance. Um as you can see, we um for our remote control, a selling price is uh twenty five Euros. Our selling price. Uh our profit aim is fifty million Euros. Uh that's the least we have to get from our remote controls, so we have to work together to reach our aims. Uh we can do it international, so we have to focus on different kind of users, different kind of cultures, and different kind of trends as well. Um but that's all in the later stadium. Our production cost um can be maximal twelve and a half Euros, so that's also a point we have to keep in mind, that we won't make remote controls with small televisions inside, and stuff like that. It won't work. So just try to remember these points. Selling price twenty five, profit aims fifty million um, but more important is the int international market we're trying to focus on. And production cost uh maximal twelve and a half Euros. So that's leads us to our little discussion. We've got about five or ten minutes left for discussion. So I'm gonna sit down, I think. It's easier. Corey Piner: Yeah, you got a message. Sidney Doherty: I've got a message. Five minutes. Ryan Thackaberry: Five Sidney Doherty: Okay, Ryan Thackaberry: minutes, okay. Sidney Doherty: that's uh good timing. Corey Piner: So just on a side note, why is it my laptop is only giving Corey Piner a black screen? Ryan Thackaberry: Mm? Sidney Doherty: Uh maybe you have to say the magic word. Corey Piner: Yeah. Right. Sidney Doherty: Does it do anything? Corey Piner: No. Sidney Doherty: Maybe you have to just clap it down? Mm back up again. No slide show. Hmm. Corey Piner: It's off now. Sidney Doherty: It's off. Now you have to put it back o Oh yeah. You'll be okay, I think. Corey Piner: Well, it was on, but Sidney Doherty: Well it's those laptops. Corey Piner: Ah, there we are. Sidney Doherty: Nice. Okay. But so mm does everybody has um experiences with uh remote controls, and I mean not the ordinary mote controls, but also a little bit different ones? Ryan Thackaberry: Mm. Sidney Doherty: Like you can use for other? Ryan Thackaberry: Oh really? Sidney Doherty: No? Ryan Thackaberry: Huh. Sidney Doherty: You? Corey Piner: Well, we Carlos Hernandez: No, Ryan Thackaberry: It's Corey Piner: have Carlos Hernandez: Corey Piner Corey Piner: a Carlos Hernandez: neither. Ryan Thackaberry: a Corey Piner: kind of broad T_V_ at home, and a D_V_D_ player, so we got like a lot of remote controls, one for the T_V_, one for the video recorder, one for the D_V_D_ player. Sidney Doherty: Ah yeah. Corey Piner: And I think it's it would be best to just make one remote control that can operate them all. Sidney Doherty: Yep. Ryan Thackaberry: Sure. Sidney Doherty: Yeah I've Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: I've got one at home. And you can uh program I think eight different devices in it, and you can use it for your television, Ryan Thackaberry: Okay, yeah. Sidney Doherty: anything else. Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: And it also operates on infra-red, so you have to got the little device inside your room, and then you can operate it from the third or th or Ryan Thackaberry: Okay, Sidney Doherty: second Ryan Thackaberry: yeah. Sidney Doherty: floor. Corey Piner: Oh really. Sidney Doherty: So Ryan Thackaberry: Hmm. Sidney Doherty: that's pretty handy when you have a video recorder or D_V_D_ player downstairs and Ryan Thackaberry: Oh. Sidney Doherty: you've got a link to your T_V_ on the second floor. Corey Piner: Yeah. Ryan Thackaberry: Mm-hmm. Sidney Doherty: So that's a pretty handy um thing. Um but only the I think that if you can put different kind of devices in one remote control, it makes it a lot easier as well. It's Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: uh Ryan Thackaberry: Oh. Sidney Doherty: That's good to remember. Corey Piner: So I think you can take minutes again. Sidney Doherty: Yeah, that's nice, I think. Corey Piner: Since it's your job. Sidney Doherty: So we've we want different functions Corey Piner: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: uh and we can maybe see if we can do something with the infra-red. But I don't know if that will exceed the production costs. So that Ryan Thackaberry: Mm. Sidney Doherty: uh that's something we have to find out, I think. Corey Piner: Yeah. But that would be really good if we could do that. Sidney Doherty: And other functions for a remote control? Maybe we can make Corey Piner: Um. Sidney Doherty: it Ryan Thackaberry: Mm-hmm. Sidney Doherty: uh uh Corey Piner: Think it has to be shock proof Ryan Thackaberry: Sure, yeah. Corey Piner: 'cause Sidney Doherty: Shock proof. Corey Piner: my remote control tends to Ryan Thackaberry: Waterproof, Corey Piner: fall a lot. Ryan Thackaberry: or uh Corey Piner: So Ryan Thackaberry: Uh, Sidney Doherty: Sure. Ryan Thackaberry: you never no know uh, I w I mean uh Sidney Doherty: Waterproof. Okay. So these are our um a few things we can think of. Um I will put the minutes from this meeting uh in our project folder. Ryan Thackaberry: 'Kay. Corey Piner: Yeah, one other little thing. Thought it might be handy to put a battery status display on it. So Sidney Doherty: That's Corey Piner: you can Sidney Doherty: a Corey Piner: see Sidney Doherty: battery stays. Ryan Thackaberry: Okay, yeah. Corey Piner: how much is left in the battery. But they'll also really drag up the production costs, so Sidney Doherty: Yeah. Corey Piner: think we'll have to see about that too. Ryan Thackaberry: Mm. Sidney Doherty: Uh. Corey Piner: But maybe just a little LED, I don't know. Sidney Doherty: That's an idea as well. Other ideas? Quick ideas. Carlos Hernandez: Nope. They were all Ryan Thackaberry: Mm. Carlos Hernandez: mentioned, so Sidney Doherty: Okay. Ryan Thackaberry: Yeah. Sidney Doherty: Any questions about this uh presentation? Kick off presentation. Corey Piner: Um. Nope, don't think so. Sidney Doherty: No? Okay, then I'll put the minutes from this meeting in the project folder, and then we can all work. Finish meeting now. Corey Piner: Okay. Sidney Doherty: Okay. And Corey Piner: Aye Sidney Doherty: we Corey Piner: sir. Sidney Doherty: can all work uh on our own projects. Sidney Doherty: Okay then I'll meet you in about a Corey Piner: Half an Sidney Doherty: half Corey Piner: hour. Sidney Doherty: an hour, I think. Carlos Hernandez: Okay. Ryan Thackaberry: Okay. Corey Piner: Okay. Sidney Doherty: So good luck. Ryan Thackaberry: Yep.

Sidney Doherty introduced himself to the team and then acquainted the team with the audio and video equipment in the meeting room. Sidney Doherty briefly described the company the team works for and discussed the corporate website. Sidney Doherty then described the upcoming project and the roles of each team member. Sidney Doherty introduced the smart boards to the team and led the team members in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and described why they liked the animal. Sidney Doherty briefed the team on the project budget and selling prices for the remote they are to create and led them in a discussion on their experiences with remote controls and what features they would like to include in their product.

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Keith Taff: Okay. Everybody found his place again? Yeah Dorian Lyons: Yes. Keith Taff: That's? nice. Okay so this is our second meeting. And uh still failing? Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Keith Taff: Uh now we're going um into the functional design. Um important thing of this phase is that we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements, technical function design, and the working design. So that we can move onto the second uh phase. But first this phase. Um first an announcement. There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system. There's our ghost mouse again. That that means that you can have a little trouble with, little trouble with the air conditioning, that's because of this uh Darren Rivera: Okay. Dorian Lyons: Okay. Keith Taff: It's in wing C_ and E_. So it should be over in a in a while, couple of days. But it's going to be cold anyway, so I don't think you're gonna need it. Dorian Lyons: No. Keith Taff: Then our agenda. Now first the opening. Uh this time I will take the minutes. Uh you're going to have a presentation. All of you. Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the whole uh presentations. So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation, and then we can have a little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to Dorian Lyons. And then the decision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include. So we've got forty minutes for all of it. So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation. Dorian Lyons: Yes Keith Taff: Um who wants to be first? Dorian Lyons: Think I'll go first. Keith Taff: Okay. So Just maybe it's easier if you um Yeah I think you will tell your presentation as well. Just which function you have and what you're gonna talk about. Dorian Lyons: 'Kay. My name is Freek Van Ponnen. I'm the Market Expert. But you already knew that. Um I've done some research. We have we uh have been doing research in a usability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls. Uh we let them fill out a questionnaire. We had one hundred of these uh test subjects. Uh in we did research. Uh see what market consists of ages are involved. Well these are three quite astonishing results, I thought. Um remotes are being considered ugly. F uh seventy five percent of the um people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly. Um and an additional eighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control. So Um in addition remotes were not very functional. Fifty percent of the people indicated they only loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. And fifty percent of the people indicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room. So Darren Rivera: Mm. Dorian Lyons: some things. Then we did some research to the most relevant functions. Channel selection and volume selection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy. The power button got a nine. And teletext got a six and a half. So these are the most most uh important functions on a remote control. Then there are some one-time use function. That's what I like to call them. That uh audio settings, video settings, and channel settings buttons. Which are not really used very frequently, but are still considered to be of some importance. Um channel selection was also indicated to be used very frequently. One hundred and sixty eight times per hour. Then these are the This is the market. Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six. Um Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control. Um they like to use new f new functions. But they also are very critical. They won't spend their money very easily. So Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of the market. They are not really very interested in features. But they do tend to spend their money a lot easier. Um What I think this indicates for our um design. I think we should make a remote for the future. And this means we would um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five. Uh this also makes up most the biggest part of the market, so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable. Um this would mean we would have to make a fancy design. Um The results also indicated that um about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R_S_ R_S_I_. Um this is certainly something to take into account. And thirty four percent thought that it was hard to learn a n how to operate a new control, remote control. So these are two factors that I think should be included in the design. Besides of course that the remote must look very nice. And the functionality As a lot of people indicated, they only use about ten percent of the buttons, I think we should make very few buttons. Uh this will also be uh beneficial to the design of the remote. Uh I think the most frequently used buttons should be emphasised. Especially the channel selection and audio uh selection buttons. 'Cause they're used most and so they should be robust. They shouldn't break down easily. Um Then as mo as a lot of people indicated that their um remote got lost in the room, it might be and I say might be because it would um certainly boost the uh production costs a lot. But it might be a good idea to make a docking station. And this would, could get a button in it which would send a signal to the remote which would then beep. So you'd know where it is in the room. And in addition to this it could um recharge the batteries in the remote if you put it in. Then um a surprisingly great deal of people w indicated that um an L_C_D_ screen in the remote control would be preferred. This was um mostly people in the age of sixteen to twenty five. But up till forty five it remains feasible. This would also greatly increase the production costs but I think these are just some small factors we could consider. Keith Taff: Okay. Dorian Lyons: That would be all. Keith Taff: Thank you. So anybody have um any questions Dorian Lyons: Any questions? Keith Taff: until now? Darren Rivera: Mm-hmm. Keith Taff: About functional requirements? Christopher Smith: No. Keith Taff: Okay that's clear. Dorian Lyons: 'Kay. Keith Taff: Now to the second. Darren Rivera: Uh okay. I've been looking at uh the user interface of it. Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it. Um Keith Taff: Yeah you can Darren Rivera: Okay. Keith Taff: take your time. We've got uh Darren Rivera: Mm? Keith Taff: plenty Dorian Lyons: Yeah Keith Taff: of Dorian Lyons: you should Keith Taff: time, Dorian Lyons: go to Keith Taff: so Dorian Lyons: the Darren Rivera: Oh. Dorian Lyons: top thingy. Darren Rivera: Uh. Dorian Lyons: Slide show. Oh Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: yeah. Darren Rivera: Okay. Keith Taff: There it is. Yeah. Darren Rivera: Um yeah. I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control. Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and not much information about it, Um about uh interface but uh Uh Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control. Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D_V_D_ uh uh television, uh stereo. So um But uh it must be uh user-friendly. So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh Yeah. Uh uh uh Yeah. In one um remote Keith Taff: One Darren Rivera: control. Keith Taff: remote. Darren Rivera: But um Yeah. Um yeah. Got uh many functions in one uh remote control, um but um yeah you can see, this is uh quite simple uh remote control. Um few uh buttons but uh This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons. Um uh people uh don't like it, uh so um Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are. So uh like uh the on-off uh button. Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button. Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that. Um My personal uh preferences um. Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device. So um Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um Darren Rivera: Uh this the remote control uh and uh you got here the general functions, uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh I dunno um And um here you've got a s kind of a display. It's a touchscreen. So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D_V_D_ player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh. And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device. So um this button is for a D_V_D_ or So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons. So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device. So Keith Taff: Hmm. Darren Rivera: uh that's uh my uh idea about it. Keith Taff: 'Kay. Darren Rivera: Um yeah and Uh let's see. Uh yeah. So a touchscreen. Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um. We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah. Everybody uh have to use it so Uh ol even even old people um young people. So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large. So uh Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Um Yeah. Uh yeah. That was uh my uh Keith Taff: Okay. Darren Rivera: part of it. So Keith Taff: Anybody has questions about the technical functions? Christopher Smith: Well I think if we are gonna a uh we're gonna above the twelve and a half Euros. Darren Rivera: N Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: I I don't think so. Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen. Keith Taff: Touchscreen. Darren Rivera: S um it's uh not uh in colour or something. Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah. Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago. Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh for uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh. Keith Taff: Huh. Darren Rivera: So Dorian Lyons: Hmm. Darren Rivera: it's possible. Keith Taff: 'Kay. That's nice. Dorian Lyons: Well it would Keith Taff: Uh Dorian Lyons: certainly make a fancy design. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: But Dorian Lyons: So Christopher Smith: the It wouldn't be very robust. It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it. Dorian Lyons: That is true. Keith Taff: That's Darren Rivera: Yeah that's true. Dorian Lyons: We Keith Taff: right. Dorian Lyons: would have Keith Taff: Uh Dorian Lyons: to look into that. Keith Taff: maybe we can first um listen to your presentation? Uh Darren Rivera: Uh. Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Christopher Smith: That's. Keith Taff: And then we have a little discussion about the requirements and uh Christopher Smith: Okay. Keith Taff: design. Keith Taff: I think it's going to Uh it's not too much. Okay. Christopher Smith: Okay I've got a presentation about the working design. Um first about how it works. It's really simple of course. Everybody knows how a remote works. The user presses a button. The remote determines what button it is, The T_V_ switches to the frequency, or what function it is. So we've got um the the plate. It gots conductive disks for every button. When the user presses a button, a signal got sent, goes to the LED and transmits tranmi transmits its to the T_V_. It's a very simple device, technically speaking. So this is a schematic overview. You've got the buttons. The power source. And uh when a button gets pressed, its goes to the chip. The chip uh controls the infrared bulb and perf perhaps a normal bulb. When you press a button you can actually see your pressed button. Well um I think we should use default materials, simple plastics. Keep the inner workings simple, so it's robust. Uh I think we should focus on aesthetics, the design and the user interface, because if you're going to use high-tech materials the price is going to go sky-high. And uh you only have to design a remote once, and if you use high-tech materials it come back in every product. So it's, in my idea, it's uh it's gonna be smart to invest in di in design and not in uh in the product itself. That's it. Keith Taff: Okay. Thank you. Keith Taff: Okay. Uh Okay now I hope everybody has a little bit more insight in the functions we all have and what we are doing right now. Um I'm Keith Taff so I'm here to mess things up and uh tell you some new uh requirements. Um that's, we've uh got to design a um remote which is only suitable for T_V_. Um that's because Darren Rivera: Okay. Keith Taff: uh it will be too complex and the time to market will be too big, if we wanna have it uh for more functions. Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: So it has to be simple. Uh another point is we have to skip the teletext, because in the world of uh upcoming internet uh we think teletext is going to be uh a thing of the past. And uh it's a function we don't need in our remote control. Um internet is also mentioned in a function we can use. Uh maybe also on televisions it will be available as well. Another one is uh the customer is uh forty plus. Uh that's the the market we have to to to target, because we are going to develop a new product which is specially designed for the younger customers. Um this is uh a bit pity for the Marketing uh Expert. Because he was uh aiming on the the younger persons. So we have to find a market which is above forty plus uh but which will suit our uh remote control, and the other way round. And we have to be very uh attent in uh putting the corporate image uh in our product. So it has to be visible in our design, in the way our device works. And uh we have to be uh very clear on this point as well. So I suggest let's have a discussion on the control functions. Yeah. Dorian Lyons: So is there any discussion possible about the new product requirement? Keith Taff: Uh we can see if we can find a way uh between the functions we wanna use and the market we wanna reach with our product. Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: Um Dorian Lyons: Yeah 'cause you're you're saying that teletext is gonna be an old feature and it's not gonna be used anymore anyway pretty soon. And new T_V_s will have internet access on them. Dorian Lyons: within the next like twenty years is very slim. In Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: addition people indicated that teletext simply was an important feature for the remote control. So I think it's pretty dumb to put no teletext feature on it. I'm pretty much against it. Keith Taff: Against the no Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: teletext? Dorian Lyons: Yes. Keith Taff: Um Dorian Lyons: Besides that, I think the market for forty plus is like pretty small. But Keith Taff: Yeah Dorian Lyons: I mean if Keith Taff: it's Dorian Lyons: I Keith Taff: it Dorian Lyons: s if Keith Taff: is Dorian Lyons: I see Darren Rivera: forty Dorian Lyons: this, it's I think we're just gonna go for another Keith Taff: Standard remote. Dorian Lyons: pretty Keith Taff: No I think Dorian Lyons: and Keith Taff: we can Dorian Lyons: not innovative Keith Taff: I think Dorian Lyons: remote Keith Taff: we Dorian Lyons: control. Keith Taff: can do a lot with the design and the simple buttons which were also mentioned. Uh if we put a lot of effort in those, we can make a remote control with uh just two or three buttons. Or just a remote which is suitable for the market we wanna reach because Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: it is forty percent of the market. And um if you look in Holland at the whole generation of forty plus, fifty plus, it it's the the biggest share of the of the whole population now. Dorian Lyons: Yes but it's not the biggest part of the market. Keith Taff: No. Dorian Lyons: And besides that, they're not very critical so I mean they don't really care what the remote control is like. They'll just pretty much take the first thing they see and which looks acceptable. Keith Taff: But don't you think that Keith Taff: people think that's the the device I've looked for although I didn't realise it. So let's try it. Dorian Lyons: No. I think that would be the case in the sixteen to forty five age category. because they are critical and they they want to have a fancy remote control. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: People of forty plus, I mean they want it to work, but as soo as soon as it works it's okay with them. Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: I think that if Dorian Lyons: So Christopher Smith: we're If we put our marketing right um we can sell this just like um I don't know if you've heard about it in the news, the the elderly mobile phone? Keith Taff: Yeah. It's a big success. Christopher Smith: Yeah if we Dorian Lyons: I haven't Christopher Smith: if we Dorian Lyons: heard Christopher Smith: make Keith Taff: Very Dorian Lyons: of Christopher Smith: a Keith Taff: big Christopher Smith: remote Dorian Lyons: it. Keith Taff: success. Christopher Smith: control just Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: l with that idea in mind, we could make tons of money, I think. Dorian Lyons: Hmm. Keith Taff: Uh. Darren Rivera: Mm. Christopher Smith: We Keith Taff: I Christopher Smith: don't have Keith Taff: think Christopher Smith: to focus Keith Taff: so as well. Christopher Smith: on on on the on the design then but on functionality. We just change our focus on the project, and I think we can uh we can sell this. Keith Taff: Uh I simply think um uh that the new products we are gonna make, uh spef specifically design, are designed for uh younger people, uh so maybe we can focus ourself on the elderly people. And I think we have to um see what requirements we need for those um remote controls. 'Cause what you told is the channel selection is important. Dorian Lyons: Yes. Keith Taff: Volume selection, Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: power and teletext. Dorian Lyons: Yes. Keith Taff: Okay. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: Um Dorian Lyons: But obviously the board tends to disagree. Keith Taff: No we we haven't voted yet, so Uh I think teletext can be uh um can be a function as well. But only if uh if it won't higher the the cost, because I don't know if it will be a lot more money to implement teletext as well, but I don't think it will be a problem. Or is teletext Darren Rivera: But Keith Taff: a Darren Rivera: um deaf people need uh teletext for uh for Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: subtitles. Dorian Lyons: Yeah, also. Darren Rivera: So it's Yeah. Keith Taff: Yeah. So I suggest Dorian Lyons: I think Keith Taff: uh Dorian Lyons: it'd definitely Darren Rivera: It's Dorian Lyons: be a bad idea not to include Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: teletext. Keith Taff: Is anybody um really against teletext? Christopher Smith: No. Keith Taff: No? Just that, that we just keep the teletext. I think that's a good idea as well, especially for the subtitles. Maybe we can make that um another point of advantage in our remote control, if we uh make a k a button ex for example for big subtitles, which is instantly on the remote control. Darren Rivera: Yeah Keith Taff: For elderly Darren Rivera: yeah. Keith Taff: people they can think, oh I wanna have subtitles, and they push the button and they get the big subtitles. Christopher Smith: Uh that's Darren Rivera: Yeah. Christopher Smith: a good idea. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: Um so I think teletext can v can be very useful in our advantage. Um Functionality should be few buttons, you said. Dorian Lyons: Yes. Keith Taff: I think Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: uh that's very important we have a few buttons. Dorian Lyons: Mm-hmm. Keith Taff: So to keep it Dorian Lyons: But Keith Taff: simple. Dorian Lyons: I don't think that's really an issue any more 'cause Well might be. Darren Rivera: If it's Dorian Lyons: But I mean Darren Rivera: only Dorian Lyons: it, Darren Rivera: for Dorian Lyons: if Darren Rivera: televi Dorian Lyons: it's only for T_V_ Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: you're not gonna need a lot of buttons Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: anyway. You Keith Taff: No. Dorian Lyons: need a one to zero button, Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: next channel, previous channel, volume up, volume down, and some teletext buttons but Keith Taff: Yeah. But Dorian Lyons: I Keith Taff: do Dorian Lyons: think Keith Taff: you Dorian Lyons: if Keith Taff: need Darren Rivera: So Dorian Lyons: you Darren Rivera: we Dorian Lyons: if you only Darren Rivera: can s Dorian Lyons: l Darren Rivera: we can skip the display, so uh we Keith Taff: But Darren Rivera: don't need it. Dorian Lyons: Nah. Keith Taff: do you need the buttons for one to zero. Maybe Darren Rivera: Uh Keith Taff: c Dorian Lyons: Think Keith Taff: we can Dorian Lyons: if you're gonna include teletext you do. I think many people like to use that. Keith Taff: Maybe we Dorian Lyons: 'Cause Keith Taff: can Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: if Keith Taff: use Dorian Lyons: you should, Keith Taff: uh Dorian Lyons: if you want to switch from channel one to like thirty five, you don't wanna push the next channel button thirty Darren Rivera: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: five times. Keith Taff: No, maybe we can implement the scroll button? Or a joystick Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: like? There are other ways too. Just look if you look at telephones. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: The Sony telephone has a scroll Darren Rivera: Mm-hmm. Keith Taff: button which is very useful in Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: searching names or Dorian Lyons: That's true but um I don't think there are many T_V_s that can switch channels that fast. And so you would need like the T_V_ would need an a function where you can actually view all channels and scroll through it. And I dunno if many channels would do have that. If many T_V_s have that. Christopher Smith: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Mm. Christopher Smith: And besides that it's um If we're gonna focus on elderly people they'll have to adapt. They're not used to using scroll buttons. Keith Taff: That's Christopher Smith: So Keith Taff: right. Dorian Lyons: Mm-hmm. Darren Rivera: Mm. Christopher Smith: perhaps we should s stick to the basic layout. Keith Taff: the numbers yeah. Yeah they can see how much buttons there are going to be on on the display, and if it's too much we can uh reconsider it. But I think Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: there won't be very much buttons. Or there don't Dorian Lyons: But Keith Taff: have to be Dorian Lyons: I don't Keith Taff: a lot. Dorian Lyons: think I think if you're gonna make a remote control only to operate a T_V_, you there's not much you can gain on um having as few buttons as possible. 'Cause I think there are pretty many remote controls that can only operate a T_V_, which already only have the minimum number of buttons. I don't think there's much to be gained in that area. Keith Taff: The Darren Rivera: Hmm. Keith Taff: number of buttons? Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Keith Taff: I think it's very important in the in the design. You can make a very fancy design uh with putting the buttons on the right places. And if you have less buttons you can do a lot more with Dorian Lyons: That is true but I think there's simply not much to gain on the competition when you when you're making a remote control only for to operate only the T_V_. Keith Taff: To operate only Dorian Lyons: 'Cause Keith Taff: the T_V_ Dorian Lyons: if you have Keith Taff: yeah. Dorian Lyons: a a remote control only to operate a T_V_ there's simply not a lot of buttons required. There's not a lot of functions required so most existing remote controls simply don't have a lot of buttons either. Keith Taff: No. Darren Rivera: No. Keith Taff: So. Dorian Lyons: So I think it would be very hard to actually gain on the competition here. Keith Taff: 'Kay. So we Dorian Lyons: That would Keith Taff: can Dorian Lyons: that would cost a a big marketing expedition Keith Taff: Yeah. That's right. Dorian Lyons: which was one of the arguments to make it only for the T_V_ because we didn't have the time to market a lot. Keith Taff: Yeah. So you suggest we could better um focus on for example the docking station. Uh uh like other functions. Instead Dorian Lyons: Maybe. Keith Taff: of f of less buttons. Dorian Lyons: Well yeah I think, mean we obviously need a good way to position all the buttons and But I don't think we should spend very much time in that. Keith Taff: Mm. No. Do you think the docking station will uh is allowed in the budget we have? Christopher Smith: It should be possible yes. Keith Taff: 'Cause it Christopher Smith: If it's Darren Rivera: No. Keith Taff: can Christopher Smith: not Keith Taff: be Christopher Smith: too fancy. And Keith Taff: No. Christopher Smith: if the remote stays rather small, it should be possible yeah. Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: No. Keith Taff: Because I think that's uh That's a good advantage point as well. If we have a fancy-looking Christopher Smith: Yes. Keith Taff: docking station or very Darren Rivera: Hmm. Keith Taff: That's a nice requirement. Docking station. Christopher Smith: So we're just gonna focus on the extras? Keith Taff: I think so. Christopher Smith: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Mm. Dorian Lyons: Yeah I think maybe we should do some research into what elderly people like to have in a Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: like to have extra in a new remote control. Keith Taff: That's a good point. Um You said they easily get lost as well. Dorian Lyons: Yes well fifty percent of the people indicated that remote Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: control tended to get lost. Keith Taff: So maybe we should implement the audio sign, or something. Dorian Lyons: Yeah that was what I suggested. Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: Like with Dorian Lyons: You Christopher Smith: your Dorian Lyons: have it Christopher Smith: key-chain, Dorian Lyons: on Christopher Smith: if you Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: whistle it goes Dorian Lyons: Yeah Christopher Smith: uh it makes Darren Rivera: Hm. Christopher Smith: a sound. Dorian Lyons: you have it's on some phones too, which have a docking station. Christopher Smith: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: And you just press a button and the phone goes ringing. Keith Taff: Yeah. So Dorian Lyons: So you know where it is. Keith Taff: audio signal should be possible as well. I think it's not too expensive. Darren Rivera: No. Keith Taff: Uh another point is the L_C_D_ screen. Um I don't know if that will rise the cost too much, Christopher Smith: Y Keith Taff: because Christopher Smith: i um I think we'll have to choose between the docking station or the screen, 'cause Keith Taff: Yeah. Christopher Smith: it's uh Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: It will be too much as well. Dorian Lyons: I think since a lot of people indicated that a new remote control is hard to learn, and we're focusing on elderly people here which tend to have a hard time understanding new devices, it might be a good idea to have just a little screen on it, which would explain a button if you press it. Which would tell you what it does. Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: And it wouldn't have to be touchscreen or Keith Taff: Based. Dorian Lyons: a very expensive Darren Rivera: Okay. Dorian Lyons: screen, but Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: Just the L_C_D_. Oh just the normal screen. Dorian Lyons: Just a small Keith Taff: That's a good Dorian Lyons: screen Keith Taff: idea. Dorian Lyons: with two Keith Taff: So Some extra info. Feedback. Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: I think that's a good idea as well. Dorian Lyons: But I dunno if that would Keith Taff: As the small Dorian Lyons: that would Keith Taff: screen. Dorian Lyons: fit into the costs. Keith Taff: Extra button info. I think that should be possible as well. Um let's see what did we say. Mm. More. Should be fancy to, fancy design, easy to learn. Few buttons, we talked about that. Docking station, L_C_D_. Um general functions Yeah. 'Kay. And default materials. I think that's a good idea as well, because um elderly people don't mind if it's a titanium cover or just a plastic one. So Dorian Lyons: No. Keith Taff: that Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: doesn't really matter. So I think Dorian Lyons: I think Keith Taff: we Dorian Lyons: probably Keith Taff: nee Dorian Lyons: elderly people would be a little bit more careful with their remote controls than youngsters. Keith Taff: Uh let's um specify the target group. Because are we talking about elderly elderly people or people from forty to eighty. Because I think what we're going to design now is for people above sixty, maybe. Darren Rivera: Mm. Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: Uh what do we want? Dorian Lyons: I think Keith Taff: If we want um a with uh for example the the telephone for elderly people, we can target the real elderly people. Dorian Lyons: I think that would be a If we should do something like that it would be a, I think it would be really good for uh for the image of the company. Keith Taff: Yeah. Dorian Lyons: And I think, I think there would be a good market for it. Keith Taff: So that's Dorian Lyons: If Keith Taff: the Dorian Lyons: we're able to really bring an innovative product. Keith Taff: Now you're talking about sixty to eighty for example. Dorian Lyons: Yeah the really Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Mm. Dorian Lyons: But Keith Taff: Sixty. Dorian Lyons: I'd have to look into that a little more. Keith Taff: Okay. And different cultures. Are we Christopher Smith: Well I don't think they have different television sets uh Darren Rivera: Mm. Keith Taff: Okay. Christopher Smith: in uh every country. Keith Taff: No. Darren Rivera: No. Christopher Smith: 'Cause Keith Taff: We've got five minutes Darren Rivera: So Keith Taff: left just Darren Rivera: 'Kay. Keith Taff: now. Dorian Lyons: 'Kay. Keith Taff: Small warning. Dorian Lyons: And with uh the little screen in it, which explains the buttons. Keith Taff: Should Dorian Lyons: You could I think we n it would be a lot easier to adapt it to different cultures. Keith Taff: Yeah. In different languages, you Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Keith Taff: know. Christopher Smith: Yeah. Keith Taff: Yeah. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: or you have to put a Darren Rivera: Right. Keith Taff: language button in it, but that will be Darren Rivera: No. Keith Taff: a bit unnecessary Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: I think. Dorian Lyons: Yeah. Keith Taff: It's better to put it on different markets with it all. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Christopher Smith: Yeah. Keith Taff: Okay. So that's the the target. Uh then a few small things. Uh okay. I will put the minutes in the project uh project document folder. Um what we're going to do for the next meeting is Christopher Smith will do the components concept, User Interface Designer the user interface concept, and the trend-watching. So just keep in mind the things we've said about the target group, uh requirements, and the trends which are uh going on. And uh specific instructions will be sent to you by uh the personal coach. Dorian Lyons: 'Kay. Keith Taff: So um I thank you for this meeting. And I think we have a lunch-break now. Dorian Lyons: That's good. Darren Rivera: Yeah. Keith Taff: So that's a good thing.

Keith Taff stated the agenda and Dorian Lyons discussed what functions are most relevant on a remote, what the target demographic is, and what his vision for the appearance of the remote is. Dorian Lyons also brought up the idea to include a docking station to prevent the remote from getting lost and the idea to include an LCD screen. Darren Rivera pushed for a user-friendly interface with large buttons, a display function, a touchscreen, and the capability of controlling different devices. Christopher Smith discussed the interior workings of a remote and Keith Taff briefed the team on some new requirements they are to abide by. The team then discussed teletext, the target demographic, the buttons the remote should have, the idea of marketing a remote designed for the elderly, an audio signal which can sound if the remote is lost, LCD screens, and language options.

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Robert Hebert: Okay. Uh good afternoon. Sammie Moran: Good afternoon. Robert Hebert: This is our third meeting already. I hope you enjoyed your lunch. I did anyway. Um let's see. Presentation three. Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. It's the conceptual design meeting. And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. Uh conceptual specification of design. And also trend-watching. Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations going show Sammie Moran in a few minutes. Um but first I'll show you the agenda. Uh first the opening. Then we have three presentations. Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. How we're going to make it. And then we're closing. We have about forty minutes. Uh so I suggest let's get started. Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation? No? Christian Rodriguez: No. Robert Hebert: Everything fine? That's nice. Then a little uh thing about the last meeting. Uh these are the points um we agreed on. The requirements and the target market. Uh requirements are uh teletext, docking station, audio signal, small screen, with some extras that uh button information. And we are going to use default materials. Um does somebody have any comments on these requirements? Maybe? No? These are just the the things we thought of, so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else, just let Sammie Moran know. And maybe we can uh work it out. And we're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers. So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing, um I suggest let's get started with the presentations. So shall we keep the same uh line-up as uh last time? Sammie Moran: Sure. Robert Hebert: Okay. Sammie Moran: I'll start off then. Robert Hebert: Good luck. Sammie Moran: Doh. Sammie Moran: 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days. Um we've done some market research. We distributed some more enquetes, questionnaires. And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends. And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers, after the original trend-watchers return, about what the the best design would be. Um okay these are some overall findings. Um most important thing is the fancy design. Um the research indicated that that was by far the most important factor. Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancy design. By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls. Um about half of, half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use. Um for our um group, we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old, this is um, these factors are slightly more equal. 'Kay these are some more group specific findings. Uh the older people prefer dark colours. Uh they like recognisable shapes, and familiar material. And our surveys have indicated that especially wood is pretty much the material for older people. Um this is, this image will give you a little bit of an impression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have. Um this leads us to some personal preferences. Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the in the room. Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs. Just keep it simple and Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest, because this would be the These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control. So this would be very important that we at least include these features. Um well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be, the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped. So you could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station. This is not really This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people. So they would prefer uh a design where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station. So it would be kinda more telephone-shaped. Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions, one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel, and one with a grey-black colour. The wood-like for the more uh exclusive people. People with more money. Uh the grey-black colour for well people with less means. That would be all. Robert Hebert: Okay. Thank you. Any questions about the Sammie Moran: Any Robert Hebert: the trends? Sammie Moran: questions? Robert Hebert: Mayb Christian Rodriguez: Mm no. Robert Hebert: No? Okay, we go on to the next one. Christian Rodriguez: Um 'kay um. uh some uh research uh a about um designing of an interface. Um the uh last meeting uh we had a about um uh using a f few buttons. So uh um uh that's w what I what I want to uh uh to do in uh our design. So um finding an attractive uh way to control uh the remote control. Um the uh I found some uh something about uh speech uh recognition. So maybe uh we uh uh that. Uh and uh using a little uh display. So um findings. Um yeah just um we have just to focus on the primary um functions. So uh only uh buttons uh for uh sound, um for uh on-off, um uh shifting u up uh sa uh ca channel or uh down shifting down. Um uh let's see. Um yeah and Uh we uh need some uh new a attractive functions uh uh which attract uh uh people for using it. So uh it's uh like a speak uh speech uh recognition and um a special button for selecting uh subtitles. Just uh what we uh mentioned uh last uh meeting. Um and yeah overall um user-friendly. So uh using uh large large buttons. Um It's uh possible to uh uh to make um quite cheap uh system for uh speech uh recognition. Um you can think about um uh when you lost your um remote control, you can uh call it and um it gives an um sig signal. So uh uh yeah. And and uh for uh shifting up a sen uh c ch channel or uh for um uh putting out uh sound or something, you can uh just give a sign uh say um sound off or A and uh yeah. Television uh put the sound off uh put the sound off uh. Um Let's see. Uh yeah. I was thinking about the special uh button for uh subtitles, um just one button to keep it uh simple. Uh one push on the button uh you get uh uh small uh subtitles. Um double push push um, if double click, um so uh you get uh big uh subtitles, for uh people uh um uh which c f uh who can't uh read small uh subtitles. So uh Um Yeah and w we have to keep uh in general buttons uh so um we've got um the buttons we have to use. The on-off, sound on-off, sound higher or lower, um the numbers, uh zero to uh uh nine. Um the general buttons m more general b one button for shifting up and shifting down uh channel. Um also we want to uh use a little d display uh for um for displaying the uh the functions of the buttons. And um we can uh build in a function f which uh shows the channel or some uh which the t television is on. So um made a little uh picture of uh it. Um See. Um yeah. Just um we can put uh the on-off button uh over in this uh corner, um almost uh e all uh remote controls uh are using a on-off button on that place. Um so uh people uh will uh recognise uh um the button. So um D display uh of it, it's uh just a small display. Uh um you can put it uh on top. Um it's uh most uh uh place where people uh, most of looks at. So uh um and a special uh button for shifting up uh and uh shifting down uh channel, um it's uh on place where um the thumb of of the So you you can uh easily uh shift up or shift down. Um it's uh quite uh handy place. So um and uh all the f functions for subtitle uh one button, uh for sound uh Uh and uh for our design, um uh we have to discuss about it uh I think uh so uh the form of it so Robert Hebert: Okay. Christian Rodriguez: And that's it. Robert Hebert: Uh thank you. Miguel Carmon: Okay. About the components design. Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or, a as an optional thing, a kinetic energy, like in a watch, which you just shake and it produces energy. But if we choose for that option, the docking station would c become obsolete. So I don't think it's really an option. Uh for the casing, uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing, single or double curved casing. we're gonna use. It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. Uh as a case supplement, we could um, I thought of that l later, uh a rubber uh belt, like a anti-slip. Uh for the b buttons, we can use plastic or rubber. And the chip-set, um it says simple here, but it should be advanced, because we're using an L_C_D_ uh screen. And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed, um people like wood, but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image, unless we would start two product lines. Form should follow function overall. Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. But depends on what we want. I think we should disc discuss that. Um for the case, uh the supplement and the buttons, it really depends on the designer. And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. And that's it. Robert Hebert: Okay. Thank you. So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. Mm. 'Kay. Robert Hebert: So these are the points we have to discuss. Um first I think we can talk about the energy source, since that's um has a pretty big influence on production price, uh and image. Uh so uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy Miguel Carmon: Yes Robert Hebert: in our Miguel Carmon: w Robert Hebert: budget, Miguel Carmon: there Robert Hebert: I think. Miguel Carmon: there are four options. We could use the basic normal battery. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: Uh a hand dynamo. But I don't think that's really an option. Robert Hebert: Okay. Miguel Carmon: You don't wanna swing before you can watch television. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: Uh solar cells. But not every room is very Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Miguel Carmon: light so it's Robert Hebert: No. Miguel Carmon: not a very good option. Or the kinetic energy. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Okay. Sammie Moran: And how exactly does the kinetic energy work? Miguel Carmon: Well Sammie Moran: You Miguel Carmon: y Sammie Moran: just Miguel Carmon: you basically shake your Sammie Moran: You Miguel Carmon: remote, Sammie Moran: use it and Miguel Carmon: and Sammie Moran: it Miguel Carmon: then it Sammie Moran: works. Miguel Carmon: powers up. Yeah. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Okay. Christian Rodriguez: Nah. Sammie Moran: Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it. Miguel Carmon: Yeah. That's true. Sammie Moran: And besides that you mentioned it would make the docking station obsolete. Miguel Carmon: Oh. Sammie Moran: And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can um get great popularity for our product. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: But Sammie Moran: Um Christian Rodriguez: what's Sammie Moran: wel Christian Rodriguez: the function? Yeah f for loading up uh the batteries. Sammie Moran: Yeah you could load Christian Rodriguez: B Sammie Moran: up the Christian Rodriguez: b Sammie Moran: batteries, you could um insert the find the lost remote control function in there. Christian Rodriguez: Okay but uh it won't use uh much e energy uh I I believe. Uh it's uh just a small display so I believe uh it will run on one battery for um six months or f or or more. So Robert Hebert: Uh Christian Rodriguez: I believe one battery uh is just enough. Uh so Robert Hebert: Uh well I think Sammie Moran: That's true. Robert Hebert: uh elderly people just like to have everything in place. And I don't think they they like uh remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms. Christian Rodriguez: Okay. Robert Hebert: So maybe a docking station will help them give the remote Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: a Christian Rodriguez: That's Robert Hebert: place. Christian Rodriguez: true. Yeah. Robert Hebert: And also what you said. Um you can introduce voice recognition by uh finding back Christian Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: your remote. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: But I think it's um more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station. So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push, and then it starts beeping. Christian Rodriguez: Okay. Robert Hebert: And then we can we can still use Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: the voice recognition, but maybe then for only the the channels. Christian Rodriguez: Uh. Robert Hebert: That's Sammie Moran: I'm wondering Robert Hebert: safe. Sammie Moran: um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price? Robert Hebert: Yeah. That's a good Miguel Carmon: Mm Robert Hebert: point. Miguel Carmon: I don't have any information on pricing. So I'll have to ask the manufacturing department. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Sammie Moran: 'Cause in our earlier um market research, if you'd allow Sammie Moran to Robert Hebert: Yeah, Sammie Moran: go Robert Hebert: sure. Sammie Moran: to the flat board, Robert Hebert: Go Sammie Moran: SMARTboard. Robert Hebert: ahead. Sammie Moran: Um so it was open here. Um we also um asked if w they would, if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Well you can see here, our target group would not do that. Robert Hebert: No. Sammie Moran: So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Sammie Moran: I would greatly advise not to do it. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: I think that would be better to uh insert in our other product, that is meant for the Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: younger people. Miguel Carmon: But that Christian Rodriguez: 'Kay. Miguel Carmon: would also go for the L_C_D_ screen then I guess. It's a bit higher percentage, but Sammie Moran: Um well this is Yeah but this is here the question was, would you prefer it. So that doesn't really mean they wouldn't pay extra for it. And on top of that the L_C_D_ screen would um help in making the remote control easier to use. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: And Miguel Carmon: Okay. Sammie Moran: I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much Robert Hebert: Easier Sammie Moran: easier Robert Hebert: to Sammie Moran: to use. Robert Hebert: use? No, I think that's a good point. Christian Rodriguez: But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L_C_D_ sh uh display, or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use? Sammie Moran: Um well this was for like an L_C_D_ screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones. Christian Rodriguez: Okay. Sammie Moran: So pretty large. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Yeah. I personally think the L_C_D_ screen we wanna use, with the extra information, I think nobody has anything against it. Because Christian Rodriguez: No. Robert Hebert: it's just uh some extra information, and it's easy to ignore as well. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So if you don't wanna use it you just don't use it. And um yeah I think the um Maybe we have to uh discard the voice recognition. Because it will increase cost uh signifi uh significantly. And I don't think the I don't think it will be a lot easier to use, as well. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So that brings us back to the energy. If we don't have the voice recognition, it will it won't use a lot of energy to use. Christian Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: Um So in that case we could use kinetic uh energy, but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good. And much cheaper as well. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So Miguel Carmon: And that's the best choice. Robert Hebert: Okay let Sammie Moran just choose for the battery. That brings us to the chip. Miguel Carmon: Well there isn't any choice there because Robert Hebert: Just Miguel Carmon: we're using Robert Hebert: the advanced. Miguel Carmon: the the the the display. So it's gotta be advanced. Robert Hebert: Okay, Sammie Moran: 'Kay. Robert Hebert: advanced chip. And then we get to the point of the case. Um which brings us a little bit back to marketing as well. Uh if we wanna choose for wood or the black and grey. Or both? Um as we saw there is not Yeah wood is a lot more expensive to produce. Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: Um but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive, which they can show off to their Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: grandkids. Look I've got a new remote Sammie Moran: Well Robert Hebert: control, Christian Rodriguez: Uh Robert Hebert: and uh Christian Rodriguez: I Sammie Moran: And Christian Rodriguez: dunno. Sammie Moran: I think most important factor there is the wooden colour. So it wouldn't actually have to be wood, Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: if it's just Robert Hebert: That's right. Sammie Moran: wood-coloured. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Robert Hebert: But with colour was a lot more expensive? Or? Miguel Carmon: Mm I dunno. Robert Hebert: You don't know? Miguel Carmon: I'll have to uh Robert Hebert: I think Miguel Carmon: research. Robert Hebert: so because Yeah. Sammie Moran: Probably. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Robert Hebert: It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape. Christian Rodriguez: Uh is it possible uh to make um changeable uh case. So um uh you 'cause uh Yeah with uh mobile phones uh uh so uh like the Nokia Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: mobile phones, uh when you can change the case of it. Robert Hebert: Change Christian Rodriguez: So Robert Hebert: the cases. Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: maybe it's possible uh possibility. So um um you have just to make one um standard um remote control, Robert Hebert: You can sell the cases. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Yeah I. think that's a very good option. Because um then you can advertise as well with the Give your grandfather a new case Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: for his remote control, or whatever. Because that's a it's something extra, it's something other remotes don't have, Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: which we can Sammie Moran: Yeah Robert Hebert: get a great Sammie Moran: that Robert Hebert: advantage Sammie Moran: is true. Robert Hebert: point. So and then you can make them with colour. Black and grey, other colours Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: as well. Sammie Moran: Yeah. We would have to look carefully into the design Robert Hebert: Costs. Sammie Moran: though. 'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a plastic cover. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: The more original one, or the more standard one. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: So that would Robert Hebert: So you suggest we should design two different telephones on Sammie Moran: Well Robert Hebert: which Sammie Moran: I wouldn't Robert Hebert: you can Sammie Moran: design Robert Hebert: apply, Sammie Moran: a telephone but Robert Hebert: yeah remote controls, on which you can apply different case covers, Sammie Moran: Well no I Robert Hebert: for Sammie Moran: think Robert Hebert: example. Sammie Moran: w we should just, we should then just design one um Robert Hebert: Remote. Sammie Moran: one remote, but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: plastic one. Robert Hebert: Okay. Sammie Moran: So, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Robert Hebert: So everybody's okay with the changing covers? Miguel Carmon: Yes. Robert Hebert: I Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: think that's a good uh good option. Changing case covers. Sammie Moran: Um I heard our Industrial Designer talk about uh flat, single and double curved. Miguel Carmon: Yes. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: explain that a little more? Miguel Carmon: Well the the general like most older remotes are flat, just straight. Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Miguel Carmon: And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases. Sammie Moran: And what would single curved and double curved mean? Miguel Carmon: Um it would just only affect the form, for as far as I know. So it's j really just up to the design department what we're gonna use. Sammie Moran: Okay. Miguel Carmon: It doesn't really matter for the price or the functionality. Sammie Moran: So we can pretty much just Miguel Carmon: Pick one Sammie Moran: do whatever Miguel Carmon: you like, Sammie Moran: we want. Miguel Carmon: yes. Robert Hebert: Mm. Sammie Moran: 'Kay. Robert Hebert: Okay. Sammie Moran: That's good. Robert Hebert: Uh but the form has to be um It has to It's has to be possible to stand up? Or just only to Sammie Moran: No Robert Hebert: lie down? Sammie Moran: just to lie down. Christian Rodriguez: okay. Robert Hebert: And the the Sammie Moran: We'll Robert Hebert: cover Sammie Moran: go for that. Robert Hebert: of the the docking station is also on top of the television then? Or not? Sammie Moran: Well or besides it. Robert Hebert: And you can just yeah then click it in. That's okay. Um so the interface. What type of interface do we want to use? Um maybe you can make a little drawing of it on the Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: on the the board. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Robert Hebert: Does somebody have ideas for a form or Christian Rodriguez: Uh we can just use the regular form of it, but it's um not quite uh fancy. So um Yeah. Sammie Moran: Um you uh said you wanted to put the um changing channels button on the right side, so you could, Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: so your thumb would be easily Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Well uh I think that was a very good point 'cause I pointed out earlier that a lot of remotes cause R_S_I_. So that would be great for that. Um I thought maybe we could just make one of those buttons on both the left and the right side. Christian Rodriguez: For Sammie Moran: For Christian Rodriguez: uh Sammie Moran: left-handed users Christian Rodriguez: Uh for Yeah yeah. Sammie Moran: also. Robert Hebert: Yep. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Yeah we um Is it possible to um program it s so uh you got on the left side uh or on the right side uh buttons for for shifting u up and shifting up? And on the uh other uh uh o other side uh buttons for uh shifting, uh for for the sound? Sammie Moran: For the Christian Rodriguez: Or Sammie Moran: volume. Christian Rodriguez: Or isn't Sammie Moran: Um Christian Rodriguez: it? Robert Hebert: Mm. Sammie Moran: well that could Yeah we could do that but I'm not sure if that would be very good for the easy, ease of Robert Hebert: Usabili Sammie Moran: use. Robert Hebert: Yeah Christian Rodriguez: Yeah Robert Hebert: ease Christian Rodriguez: okay. Robert Hebert: of use will be a lot more difficult, and then it's Christian Rodriguez: Uh. Sammie Moran: But if we would make um a changing channels and changing volume button on both sides, that would certainly yield great options for the design of the remote. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Sammie Moran: 'Cause it could be made all symmetrical and stuff. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah but Robert Hebert: But you have extra buttons. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So people can get confused. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: That is true. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Especially if they have the same writings on it. Christian Rodriguez: See um yeah. Or we have to make a left uh Robert Hebert: Can't Christian Rodriguez: For Robert Hebert: we make Christian Rodriguez: lefties Robert Hebert: uh Christian Rodriguez: and Robert Hebert: Can't we make a remote which you can flip over and use on the same Christian Rodriguez: Um Robert Hebert: functions as the normal one? Christian Rodriguez: You mean um Robert Hebert: Then you have Christian Rodriguez: Yeah Robert Hebert: to Christian Rodriguez: if Robert Hebert: Let's see if I ca A blank one. And then you get Robert Hebert: Here's a little L_C_D_ screen. Uh now I have to think. Robert Hebert: It's a plus and a min. No it's not very handy I think. Christian Rodriguez: Mm Robert Hebert: Because Christian Rodriguez: no. Robert Hebert: the plus and the min will be opposite and Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: all kinds of No that's not gonna work. I guess. Maybe Christian Rodriguez: Um Robert Hebert: we should Yeah. But is it a problem that left-handed persons use a different hand? I think the functions are that basic that nobody should have any problems with uh Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: choosing a channel Sammie Moran: That is Robert Hebert: or Sammie Moran: true. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. It's just uh u using uh your thumb. Robert Hebert: Y Christian Rodriguez: So Robert Hebert: yeah. Christian Rodriguez: um Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: it's Robert Hebert: I think we could just uh leave it a normal shape. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Uh but maybe we have to make it a l a bit more fancy. In one or ano another way. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Um Miguel Carmon: I think we should start by by choosing a case. Because that's the basis Christian Rodriguez: Yeah Miguel Carmon: you're building on. Christian Rodriguez: yeah. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: Um Miguel Carmon: So I could Robert Hebert: yeah Miguel Carmon: draw Robert Hebert: just Miguel Carmon: them out. Let's look at the flat case. Oh. It's from the side so it's Christian Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Miguel Carmon: rather normal. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: The the single curved so I'm not really sure what they're gonna look like, but I think it's something like this. Miguel Carmon: So this type should be better for you or better Should prevent Robert Hebert: Easier? Miguel Carmon: repetitive strain injury a bit. And the double curved s looks something like this I guess. Christian Rodriguez: Mm. Miguel Carmon: So th those are the three options we have. Robert Hebert: 'Kay. Sammie Moran: Mm. Robert Hebert: I suggest um the single curved, because maybe the curve is pretty good to put the the screen in. Uh so that elderly people can uh use the remote control and at the same time look easily at the screen, because it's a bit, Christian Rodriguez: So um Robert Hebert: it has a bit of a angle. Christian Rodriguez: Do you say this um S uh Uh you got like uh sort of a I believe There? Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Christian Rodriguez: So um you want to put a display over here? Or not? Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: I think so. Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: Um Yeah. Robert Hebert: But Christian Rodriguez: Uh Robert Hebert: now it's Christian Rodriguez: we can make it Robert Hebert: Do Christian Rodriguez: um Robert Hebert: you have it upside down or Christian Rodriguez: Mm? Robert Hebert: Do you Christian Rodriguez: That's Robert Hebert: have it Christian Rodriguez: the top. So Robert Hebert: this Christian Rodriguez: uh Robert Hebert: that's Christian Rodriguez: this Robert Hebert: top? Christian Rodriguez: top. This down. Robert Hebert: Okay. Christian Rodriguez: Um maybe it's possible to uh make this side like um Let's see. Um Colour uh okay. Uh to make this side um like mm the right colour. Um bit like so uh um in the form of your hand. So um Uh it's an Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: So so the remote control have to um lay in your hand. So uh it's possib um yeah for Robert Hebert: So Christian Rodriguez: s Robert Hebert: get Christian Rodriguez: so Robert Hebert: your Christian Rodriguez: and Robert Hebert: mouse. Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: And to put uh the the buttons for um changing uh the channel uh over here uh Robert Hebert: Yeah. That's a good one. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: Yeah. Robert Hebert: But I think it's better to put the screen uh on top. Christian Rodriguez: Uh Robert Hebert: So just Christian Rodriguez: rem Robert Hebert: flip it a hundred and eighty degrees around then you Christian Rodriguez: Yeah Robert Hebert: get Christian Rodriguez: but this place um Robert Hebert: here. If you can have this one, you turn it like this. And then flip it upside down. Christian Rodriguez: Uh it's Yeah I dunno um Robert Hebert: Because uh maybe your hand is in the way, if you have the display Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: here. Miguel Carmon: It's more logical to have it on top as well because, Robert Hebert: I think i Christian Rodriguez: Yeah Miguel Carmon: like on your mobile phone, Christian Rodriguez: so Miguel Carmon: it's always above. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: On top. Christian Rodriguez: So Robert Hebert: Yeah. Miguel Carmon: Oh maybe you should just s start on a blank page. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So then we get Robert Hebert: Here's That's the curve. Christian Rodriguez: Five minutes. Robert Hebert: Here the display, and then buttons. Yeah and then we can have a little bit off here and here maybe. Just that's for left hand and right hand users. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Mm-hmm. Robert Hebert: And then h the rest of the buttons over Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: here. Christian Rodriguez: But um the on-off button, um still on the top Robert Hebert: Yeah Christian Rodriguez: uh Robert Hebert: still Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: here jus Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: That's Sammie Moran: And I'd prefer the corners to be round. Robert Hebert: Yeah. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. 'Kay. Sammie Moran: Think Robert Hebert: Should Sammie Moran: that would Robert Hebert: be Sammie Moran: be Robert Hebert: more Sammie Moran: better. Robert Hebert: bit more friendly, yeah. Sammie Moran: Friendly on the eye. Robert Hebert: 'Kay. Supplements. That's okay. Where's my mouse? Then We've got a general idea of the concepts and the materials we're going to use. So now for the next meeting uh we'll have to look at the look-and-feel design. It's important that the corporate design image uh is going to be in the remote. So check out the corporate website maybe. The user interface design, it's the same story. And product evaluation. So Miguel Carmon and User Interface Designer are going to work together on this one. But you're going to get your instructions I think sended by the coach. So just um I will put these um minutes on the in the folder. Miguel Carmon: Okay. Robert Hebert: And then we're going to uh try to finish our project, and uh make a good design for all the grandfathers and grandmothers, I think. Which are Uh let's see. I'm not sure if you're going to start right away to work together or I think you're going to fill in the questionnaires first. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: And then you'll get a message. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: So that's uh basically it. Maybe this one? Then we can save this one in the folders group. Uh yes, it's here. Sammie Moran: Yeah. Robert Hebert: SMARTboard, there it it. So if you wanna have a look at it, it's over there in the projects folder. Christian Rodriguez: Yeah. Robert Hebert: And then I guess we'll start in thirty minutes again. Thank Sammie Moran: Very Robert Hebert: you. Sammie Moran: good. Miguel Carmon: Okay. Christian Rodriguez: Okay.

Robert Hebert opened the meeting and recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Sammie Moran discussed his personal preferences for the design of the remote and presented the results of trend-watching reports, which indicated that there is a need for products which are fancy, innovative, easy to use, in dark colors, in recognizable shapes, and in a familiar material like wood. Christian Rodriguez discussed the option to include speech recognition and which functions to include on the remote. Miguel Carmon discussed which options he preferred for the remote in terms of energy sources, casing, case supplements, buttons, and chips. The team then discussed and made decisions regarding energy sources, speech recognition, LCD screens, chips, case materials and colors, case shape and orientation, and button orientation.

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Ernesto Whitaker: So Ernesto Whitaker: Hello. Dennis Cleaver: Good afternoon. Sorry I'm a little late. Ernesto Whitaker: No problem Dennis Cleaver: Got stuck in the traffic. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. That's possible on uh this time of day. Starts at three o'clock. Uh Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh, let Dennis Cleaver see. Our fourth and last meeting. There he is. Yes. Okay this our last meeting. In this meeting we will discuss our final design. And we will do some evaluation about the, not only the product, but also the project. And then we're going to close the project today as well. So after this you be free to go and uh spend all your money. And this uh design, detailed design meeting uh we will discuss uh the look-and-feel of the design, the usability interface design, and we will do the product evaluation. Um, in order to do that we have this agenda. We'll have the prototype presentation first. Then we will set up some evaluation cri um criteria. Then we will look at the finance. Uh we will have to see if everything we wanna do is also possible within our budget. Because everything costs money, and the more functions you wanna have the more money it will cost. So we have to see if it fits within the twelve and a half Euro per remote. But we will see that later. Then we will do the project uh evaluation, and the closing after that. We've got forty minutes. So we will be finished at half past three. But first um we will do the this is prototype presentation. So, if some Richard Conorich: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: yeah if somebody wants step forward. Richard Conorich: Well this what Dennis Cleaver Richard came up with. The default spot for the on-off button. The mute button just below that. Then there's the volume and channel selectors. Simple plus-minus button. Uh we thought of a help button. If you hold it and you press another button, uh the help goes to the L_C_D_ screen. Then there's the zero to one to zero buttons. A button for teletext. A button for the subtitles. And the company logo. And uh we'll have to see from testing uh how the users take it. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Dennis Cleaver: Um, is this the moment where we Christian Page: So Dennis Cleaver: ask or can ask questions about the functionality? Richard Conorich: Sure Christian Page: Yeah. Richard Conorich: uh Christian Page: Yeah. Richard Conorich: just pop in at any time. Dennis Cleaver: Um, when you're in teletext there usually are buttons where you just you just press it and you g go to the next teletext page. Christian Page: Uh, uh the uh as th as the normal uh remote controls uh So um You put it uh you um came in uh page uh one hundred. Now Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Christian Page: you can use the normal uh one to zero buttons. And you But you can also uh use the um button th for uh changing the S so shifting. Dennis Cleaver: Okay. Christian Page: yeah shifting up in on t on t down. So Dennis Cleaver: Okay. Um Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Uh but um I thought in a few meetings earlier we uh uh tried to keep it uh simple. Christian Page: Oh yeah? Ernesto Whitaker: Uh just a few buttons and large buttons. But uh I think these are altogether quite a quite a few buttons. So I'm wondering if we if we neely really need all of those buttons. Richard Conorich: I think if you look at most controls, they've got more buttons than this. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. Richard Conorich: And Christian Page: Yeah. Richard Conorich: well the on-off button, it's it's a necessity. You Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: can't drop that one. The volume and channel buttons, you need you obviously need those those. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: The mute button could be replaced uh by pressing the volume-down button twice. So we could cancel that one. I think the help button really is necessary Christian Page: Yeah Richard Conorich: because Christian Page: yeah. Richard Conorich: there's no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does. Ernesto Whitaker: Mm. Christian Page: Uh, or you can build in uh when you press uh one button uh Ernesto Whitaker: Long Christian Page: uh Ernesto Whitaker: time. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. If Christian Page: But Ernesto Whitaker: you put Christian Page: m Yeah. We disc discuss that already. But uh we think uh old people uh don't know that uh option. So uh they just put in uh put press uh the button and uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Okay. Richard Conorich: Well, you can't leave out the number buttons I guess. Christian Page: And uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: And Ernesto Whitaker: Uh teletext and subtitles are Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: yeah Christian Page: Oh. Ernesto Whitaker: necessary. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Richard Conorich: So it's rather basic already. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Think so. That's what I pointed out earlier. If you just make a for just the T_V_ there's just not much to gain here. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yep. Okay. So we had somebody about th interfa Something about the design of the buttons there? Richard Conorich: Yeah, they're It's Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Just n normal Richard Conorich: rather Ernesto Whitaker: plain Richard Conorich: hard Christian Page: Yeah, Richard Conorich: to Christian Page: it Richard Conorich: draw Ernesto Whitaker: buttons. Richard Conorich: on the white-board. But they're supposed to be equal sized, round, with a with a little logo on it for the for the volume, the Christian Page: Yeah Richard Conorich: the triangle Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: yeah. Richard Conorich: and Christian Page: Just Richard Conorich: stuff. Christian Page: to recognise Ernesto Whitaker: 'Kay. Christian Page: it, so Richard Conorich: Just for Christian Page: uh Richard Conorich: recognition. Christian Page: Uh yeah and now we don't need uh LEDs or um Ernesto Whitaker: No. Christian Page: Y uh s some uh remote controls uh do it also, Ernesto Whitaker: No. Christian Page: but um uh because we use the little display we don't uh have to use it. Uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: so Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Richard Conorich: So and for the materials we've just chosen for rubber buttons. Christian Page: Nay. Richard Conorich: With Ernesto Whitaker: Yep. Richard Conorich: a a different colour than the case. So they jump out. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Richard Conorich: And uh that's about it. Ernesto Whitaker: That's nice. Then because we only have thirty minutes left, I will move on to the finance part, which is pretty exciting, to see if it's all possible what we wanna do. And I can tell you that we're going to have a pretty hard time producing this for twelve and a half Euros. Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: If we see I don't know if I've filled in correctly, so just correct Dennis Cleaver if you see uh something wrong. I counted two batteries. But maybe we can also use one. I don't know if it's Dennis Cleaver: Since Ernesto Whitaker: possible. Dennis Cleaver: it rechargeable. Ernesto Whitaker: It's rechargeable. That's Christian Page: Yeah Ernesto Whitaker: right. Christian Page: we can u just uh Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. That's two Euros off. Christian Page: 'Kay. Ernesto Whitaker: We need the advanced chip. So there's Richard Conorich: Yep. Ernesto Whitaker: not much to uh to save there. Here we have the single curves. Uh we can see that the difference between uncurved and the single curved is one Euro. Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: Um, I don't know, but I think the single curved is good for design, Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: and also for the display to have a prominent place on the remote control. Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: I think we have to keep that. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Then we have the case material supplements. It's plastic. It's the cheapest one we need. So that's uh not much to save either. But then the biggest costs are the buttons. So maybe we really should try to Christian Page: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: discard some buttons to uh keep our costs low. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Because you have to we will have to get the twelve and a half Euros at the end. Um, so if we Let's fir first count Christian Page: Uh Ernesto Whitaker: the buttons we have now. Because Christian Page: Sixteen, Ernesto Whitaker: I Christian Page: I believe so. Ernesto Whitaker: Sixteen. Nah, that will be even more then. Eighteen Euros. So, Christian Page: Uh seventeen. Ernesto Whitaker: seventeen. Dennis Cleaver: Um Christian Page: Uh with the help button. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay, Richard Conorich: Yep. Ernesto Whitaker: including the Dennis Cleaver: Damn. Ernesto Whitaker: help? Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Uh seventeen. I think we can uh discard the help and the mute button uh by pressing down volume long, or pressing down a a number Richard Conorich: Yep. Ernesto Whitaker: long. That saves us uh one Euro already. 'Cause then we have got fifteen I think? Richard Conorich: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Wouldn't Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Fifteen Dennis Cleaver: No. Ernesto Whitaker: buttons. Dennis Cleaver: That wouldn't be an option. Ernesto Whitaker: And Dennis Cleaver: Uh, Ernesto Whitaker: this Dennis Cleaver: d Ernesto Whitaker: is Dennis Cleaver: I assume you'd count the volume and channel thingies for two buttons each, right? Ernesto Whitaker: No those are one, Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: I think. Dennis Cleaver: Well, think Christian Page: Where Dennis Cleaver: actually Christian Page: did Dennis Cleaver: there're two Christian Page: uh Dennis Cleaver: buttons, Christian Page: Uh, Dennis Cleaver: aren't they? Christian Page: it's just one button. But, um Yeah. There were uh two uh for one big button. But they are uh more expensive than the small ones. Uh, yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah Christian Page: So Ernesto Whitaker: but th it's not stated in this Christian Page: It's just a. Ernesto Whitaker: files. So maybe we can we can even make one button with the volume and the channel in one, by Dennis Cleaver: Well Ernesto Whitaker: pressing Dennis Cleaver: I was thinking, maybe you could just integrate three of those numbers to one button. Ernesto Whitaker: That's possibility as well. Dennis Cleaver: That would cut the cost. Ernesto Whitaker: So And it's good for the design as well. So you can make Uh let's see. If you make this Ernesto Whitaker: Looks a bit like uh a cross. Plus. Min. Christian Page: But I don't don't know if if it's Ernesto Whitaker: Uh s yeah Christian Page: cheaper. Ernesto Whitaker: channel. Christian Page: So uh, Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah Christian Page: we've Ernesto Whitaker: w Christian Page: still got four buttons, but just um So Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah th I think they count uh the materials. Christian Page: You got uh not not a butt button itself, but uh on the um Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah on the chip there. Christian Page: Yeah. On Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: the chip Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: you've got still Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Christian Page: uh four Ernesto Whitaker: That's Christian Page: uh Ernesto Whitaker: right. That's right. Christian Page: four buttons. So Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: But I think because we have the advanced chip Christian Page: Yeah, but Ernesto Whitaker: we can just count this as one button. But No but I Dennis Cleaver: But, Ernesto Whitaker: think Dennis Cleaver: I think this really is four buttons anyhow. Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Maybe it is, but then it seems to Dennis Cleaver that it's impossible to get the twelve and a half Euros. Also the Dennis Cleaver: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: L_C_ display, Richard Conorich: Uh that's Ernesto Whitaker: I Richard Conorich: that's Ernesto Whitaker: think Richard Conorich: a big Ernesto Whitaker: it's, Richard Conorich: cost. Ernesto Whitaker: I think it's too expensive for the display we use. Richard Conorich: If we leave out the display we can also save money on the chip. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right, but what's the big advantage of our remote then? Dennis Cleaver: Only the docking station, I guess. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: Which isn't the the docking station isn't even in this c s schematic. Ernesto Whitaker: No. Richard Conorich: So it's not even Ernesto Whitaker: That's Richard Conorich: taken Ernesto Whitaker: extra. Richard Conorich: into the price. Ernesto Whitaker: That's extra. That's right. Dennis Cleaver: Maybe we should to a different supplier. Ernesto Whitaker: That's an option. Poland. Something. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Polish supplier. Don't you think we can, if we can count this as v as one button, and integrate th uh these buttons in three, then we save a lot of money as well. Richard Conorich: We we could save money on it. But would it make the remote more usable for elderly people? Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Richard Conorich: My mother can't even send send an S_M_S_ message. So Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. That's a point. Dennis Cleaver: Um Christian Page: Are we gonna buy a um a remote control uh when you can uh use it? So um Yeah. We m uh we must um stay below the um below um twelve uh fifty or Ernesto Whitaker: Yep. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: Can't uh go um Ernesto Whitaker: No. Dennis Cleaver: Well, since the market research indicated that older people spend their money easier, more easy, maybe it's feasible to just put the price of the remote up a little. Especially since we have those Christian Page: Nay. Dennis Cleaver: nice features. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah but uh we have to stick to the twelve and a half Euros. We don't have any more budget to Richard Conorich: The margin Ernesto Whitaker: develop Christian Page: Is it Richard Conorich: will Christian Page: impossible Richard Conorich: get Ernesto Whitaker: it. Richard Conorich: too small. Christian Page: to Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: But it Ernesto Whitaker: So Christian Page: is possible to make one uh for uh twelve fifty. I don't think Ernesto Whitaker: It Christian Page: so. Ernesto Whitaker: is. If Dennis Cleaver: It Ernesto Whitaker: you Dennis Cleaver: would Ernesto Whitaker: leave Dennis Cleaver: be a be Ernesto Whitaker: out Dennis Cleaver: a Ernesto Whitaker: the L_C_ Dennis Cleaver: pretty Christian Page: S Dennis Cleaver: rigid Ernesto Whitaker: display. Dennis Cleaver: one. Ernesto Whitaker: And if you use Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: less buttons. Say Richard Conorich: Ten. Christian Page: But, Ernesto Whitaker: Or you can Christian Page: you can't use Ernesto Whitaker: take Christian Page: uh Ernesto Whitaker: the single chip. There it is. Christian Page: Yeah. But we want to make a Ernesto Whitaker: But then Christian Page: uh Ernesto Whitaker: w Christian Page: so uh uh fancy and a good uh Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Good looking. Christian Page: Uh, wi with n Oh, with uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: attractive uh o options. So uh, you can stay uh below uh twelve fifty. So Ernesto Whitaker: I think Dennis Cleaver: Or Ernesto Whitaker: it's Dennis Cleaver: b Ernesto Whitaker: uh difficult as well, but Dennis Cleaver: Basically becoming a choice between like either a good remote and a higher production cost, or just Richard Conorich: No remote. Dennis Cleaver: any other remote control. Ernesto Whitaker: Or we can leave out the ten buttons and take one scroll wheel for the programme numbers. Christian Page: Scroll-wheel's Ernesto Whitaker: Then w Christian Page: one. Ernesto Whitaker: Because Richard Conorich: That's Ernesto Whitaker: then Christian Page: No, it Ernesto Whitaker: we save ten buttons. Then Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: we have five and one. And and see. If we have this one and we've got the advanced W uh, Richard Conorich: We're getting closer. Ernesto Whitaker: we're getting Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: close. Dennis Cleaver: But how does scroll-wheel work here? Ernesto Whitaker: Then you will Or maybe you can um scroll. If you scroll you will see the numbers on the L_C_D_ display. Until you've Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: got the right number, then you push it. Dennis Cleaver: That would bring up the price of the scroll-wheel also. Ernesto Whitaker: Alright. Dennis Cleaver: Integrated Ernesto Whitaker: It's gotta Dennis Cleaver: scroll-wheel Ernesto Whitaker: scroll and Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: push. Dennis Cleaver: push-button. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay but Dennis Cleaver: But Ernesto Whitaker: then you Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: you can push uh some other button as well. Richard Conorich: You could just not scroll for a half a second. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: So Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. So Richard Conorich: you Ernesto Whitaker: if Richard Conorich: won't Ernesto Whitaker: you scroll Richard Conorich: need a button. Ernesto Whitaker: to a number and then you wait a half second, then it g turns to that channel. Dennis Cleaver: I think that would be like the end of our usability. Christian Page: D yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: But it would definitely crop cost, a lot. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, but Ernesto Whitaker: And we need the battery. And the regular chip is not possible? It has to be advanced? Richard Conorich: If you want to use an L_C_D_ screen you Ernesto Whitaker: It has Richard Conorich: you need Ernesto Whitaker: to be Richard Conorich: an advanced Ernesto Whitaker: advanced. Richard Conorich: chip, yes. Christian Page: Hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Okay. And we can save a Euro by a flat design. That's an option we can Richard Conorich: Yep. Christian Page: Ja ja. Ernesto Whitaker: Then we're almost there. Richard Conorich: Yeah if you v could just leave out one more button. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. So if we Christian Page: Yeah, or we have to uh skip the subtitle uh button. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah but I think Christian Page: So Ernesto Whitaker: that's Christian Page: Yeah Ernesto Whitaker: That is a big advantage, if we're Christian Page: Yeah it's a big advantage. But Ernesto Whitaker: But Christian Page: um, Ernesto Whitaker: Can we use Christian Page: it's Ernesto Whitaker: can't we integrate the teletext and the subtitles in one button? Richard Conorich: I Christian Page: Uh, Richard Conorich: think Christian Page: yeah. Richard Conorich: so. Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Well, Ernesto Whitaker: If you push Dennis Cleaver: think it's Ernesto Whitaker: it Dennis Cleaver: pretty much Ernesto Whitaker: three Dennis Cleaver: the Ernesto Whitaker: times? Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: teletext subtitles are right now you just push the teletext button, go to page eight eight eight, Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: and Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: teletext disappears. But the subtitles stay there. Christian Page: But if you push Dennis Cleaver: I Christian Page: the Dennis Cleaver: think that's Christian Page: teletext Dennis Cleaver: the case on Christian Page: button Dennis Cleaver: most Christian Page: twice Richard Conorich: What if you have to scroll Christian Page: It's Richard Conorich: to page Christian Page: uh Richard Conorich: eighty eight? Eight hundred eighty eight. Christian Page: One Ernesto Whitaker: Ah that's Christian Page: m uh Ernesto Whitaker: not Dennis Cleaver: Well, Ernesto Whitaker: really Dennis Cleaver: that could Ernesto Whitaker: that Dennis Cleaver: be Christian Page: one Dennis Cleaver: just Christian Page: b uh, a Dennis Cleaver: uh Christian Page: few Dennis Cleaver: like the Christian Page: buttons. Dennis Cleaver: scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Okay. Dennis Cleaver: But then again that would be d j just pretty much not an option for older people, who don't Richard Conorich: No. Dennis Cleaver: even know what a scroll-wheel is. Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Holding a Ernesto Whitaker: No. Dennis Cleaver: remote with which they expect to have like ten buttons for the numbers one to zero. With only five buttons on it. And a scroll-wheel. Ernesto Whitaker: I think if you make a good advertisement uh on television and in the in the guide, you can explain to the people how to use the scroll wheel. If you just make it real simple. Because it saves it saves a lot of money. And we can keep our L_C_D_ screen, which can provide extra information. How to use the scroll wheel. How to use the other Dennis Cleaver: True. Ernesto Whitaker: bu buttons Dennis Cleaver: True. Ernesto Whitaker: as subtitles. Christian Page: Hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: And it's good for the innovative design as well. If you would erase these. Mm eraser? Ernesto Whitaker: And we put uh Ernesto Whitaker: Looks a bit odd maybe. Dennis Cleaver: That's a pretty big scroll wheel. Ernesto Whitaker: That is Ernesto Whitaker: Something like that. Then, yeah. We've got the scroll-wheel. One, two, three, four, five buttons, if we erase this one. Ernesto Whitaker: And these are two buttons then. Richard Conorich: We could make two buttons out of that. And just um If you press the volume button you Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: can control the volume with the scroll-wheel. So that would save two buttons. If you do Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: the same for the channel. Ernesto Whitaker: That's really a good good idea, I think. And it will make the use of the scroll wheel Richard Conorich: More Ernesto Whitaker: uh Richard Conorich: obvious. Ernesto Whitaker: more obvious indeed. So we make one for the volume, one for the channel. Ernesto Whitaker: Plus scroll. Richard Conorich: So if we Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. So we've got one, two, three. Yeah, we can leave the teletext in if we want. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: That's m Richard Conorich: So Ernesto Whitaker: that's better. Dennis Cleaver: So this is five Richard Conorich: If Dennis Cleaver: buttons. Richard Conorich: we leave out all those buttons, perhaps you can go with the flat flat case. And make it smaller overall. So Ernesto Whitaker: Y Richard Conorich: if Ernesto Whitaker: yeah. Richard Conorich: you put the the volume and channel buttons on the same height as the on-off button, the Ernesto Whitaker: Mm yeah. Richard Conorich: screen right behi under that, than the scroll button Ernesto Whitaker: Uh yeah, Richard Conorich: you Ernesto Whitaker: and then Richard Conorich: get Ernesto Whitaker: you can Richard Conorich: a a much smaller remote. Christian Page: Uh yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. Richard Conorich: And it Ernesto Whitaker: So Richard Conorich: sh Ernesto Whitaker: we can decrease this one to four buttons. Richard Conorich: Yeah? Dennis Cleaver: Right now we have five. Christian Page: But uh, you can make a f quite a big uh remote remote control for uh just the same price as a small one. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: Just uh Ernesto Whitaker: That's Christian Page: you Ernesto Whitaker: no problem. Christian Page: only have to pay for the double curved or single curved. It uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: it's a bit uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. It's uh it's more the moulds in which they are being made, I think. Single Dennis Cleaver: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: curved is really easy to just fill in. And cases come right out of the machine. And single curved you have to have a different uh different machine, than a flat one. I think this is a really easy one. Um, what does everybody think about a flat or a single curved design? Freek, what do you think? Dennis Cleaver: Well, I still think we should go for the single curve design. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: But then again, Richard Conorich: Richard's argument was Dennis Cleaver: all Richard Conorich: very Dennis Cleaver: these Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: changes Richard Conorich: good. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: are not Richard Conorich: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: really okay Ernesto Whitaker: Yep. Dennis Cleaver: with Dennis Cleaver. But since Ernesto Whitaker: We have to cut costs. Dennis Cleaver: we just have to. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Yeah Dennis Cleaver: I'd Ernesto Whitaker: I'm Dennis Cleaver: rather Ernesto Whitaker: ag Dennis Cleaver: just go to the board and Ernesto Whitaker: Ask for more Dennis Cleaver: get Ernesto Whitaker: money. Dennis Cleaver: us to spend eighteen dollars a a Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: remote. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. I am agreeing Dennis Cleaver: Or do Ernesto Whitaker: with Dennis Cleaver: some Ernesto Whitaker: the Dennis Cleaver: market Ernesto Whitaker: usability. Dennis Cleaver: research and Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: see what the options are. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. But th um I think we can then keep the single curved one. Just to express our L_C_D_ screen a bit more. Richard Conorich: Yep. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: So Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: people will use it more, and especially for the help functions, it will be good if we have scroll bar, scroll button. It will be necessary to have good help function, as well. Ernesto Whitaker: So this is scroll. Ernesto Whitaker: I think it was better to have this price list a bit earlier. Before Dennis Cleaver: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: we went on to Dennis Cleaver: Definitely. Ernesto Whitaker: the Christian Page: The th Ernesto Whitaker: to the whole design. But I'm glad we could make a bit. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: It's pretty different, if you Dennis Cleaver: It's Ernesto Whitaker: saw Dennis Cleaver: pretty Ernesto Whitaker: the Dennis Cleaver: different. Ernesto Whitaker: last one Dennis Cleaver: But Ernesto Whitaker: than this one. Dennis Cleaver: this is not really like for the group we were making our remote. Christian Page: No. Dennis Cleaver: This will really require a lot of marketing Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. It will. Dennis Cleaver: to get this to sell. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: 'Cause Christian Page: But um Dennis Cleaver: if older people like familiar forms and familiar stuff. This is not familiar for them. Ernesto Whitaker: No, but Dennis Cleaver: So Ernesto Whitaker: I Dennis Cleaver: we're Ernesto Whitaker: think Dennis Cleaver: gonna have to do a lotta convincing them. Ernesto Whitaker: I think the most Christian Page: But they know the scroll-buttons from uh old radios. Uh they cal also uh buttons like that for uh Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. Christian Page: changing uh channels. So Ernesto Whitaker: We can let Christian Page: maybe it's Ernesto Whitaker: l Christian Page: uh Ernesto Whitaker: We can stick it out, a bit. Like a old old Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: buttons. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Maybe that's recognisable for them as well. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. That's a good one. So, I'm afraid we have to move on. And it's uh it's b uh less frightening, I think. If they see this design they think oh, there are only five buttons, and uh Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: But Dennis Cleaver: That's Ernesto Whitaker: we Dennis Cleaver: true. Ernesto Whitaker: will see. Dennis Cleaver: Might uh might be confusing too. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. That's Dennis Cleaver: They'd Christian Page: Mm-hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: definitely Dennis Cleaver: be like, what? Ernesto Whitaker: right. Dennis Cleaver: Only five buttons? Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: But very special, so uh Ernesto Whitaker: I would buy Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: it. Dennis Cleaver: But you're not sixty. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. I would buy it if I was six. No I don't know. What it costs under twelve and a half Euros? No? Uh, yes they are. Christian Page: No. Ernesto Whitaker: No. But we can go on with the project evaluation. Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: Let's see. I can sit down I think. We still have fifteen minutes left, so we're nice on schedule. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Um, the project process. Dennis Cleaver: So um, I like set up all these criteria. And Ernesto Whitaker: Evaluation Dennis Cleaver: evaluation Ernesto Whitaker: criteria. Dennis Cleaver: of the Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. That was the Dennis Cleaver: thingy. Ernesto Whitaker: the point I forgot. I should There we are. Evaluation criteria. Dennis Cleaver: Thank you. Ernesto Whitaker: Go ahead. We've got five minutes I think for those criteria. Dennis Cleaver: Five more minutes? Ernesto Whitaker: No we've got fifteen minutes but Dennis Cleaver: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh yes. What? Dennis Cleaver: 'Kay so I did some literature study study, and analysis of the requirements we set up earlier. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Translated it into criteria, which would be these. Um, is the remote fancy? The shape, look and feel. Innovative? What new functions are there? Uh, easy to use? Uh, learnability is a very important factor here. Uh, is it functional? Are there not too many functions uh among the functions? And are the those functions that are there, are they useful? And the cost. The target group. Is the remote really for the group we're making it for? And recognability. If our company is If it is easily recognisable that our company made it? And So we're supposed to evaluate it right now. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Dennis Cleaver: Let's see. Oh I have to say this was a little hard, because the minutes of our last meeting were not here. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah, that's Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: because my pen failed to upload his data. Dennis Cleaver: Okay. Christian Page: Yeah? Ernesto Whitaker: I Dennis Cleaver: Interesting. Ernesto Whitaker: tried to but it's uh it's giving errors by downloading Dennis Cleaver: So Ernesto Whitaker: the software. Christian Page: Mm. 'Kay. Dennis Cleaver: Is the design fancy, on a scale of one to seven? Ernesto Whitaker: I think it's fancy. Richard Conorich: Six. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: Uh six. Dennis Cleaver: We all go for six? Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Six. Dennis Cleaver: Good. Um, is the design innovative? Ernesto Whitaker: Very. Christian Page: Mm. Dennis Cleaver: I think so, with Christian Page: Sh Dennis Cleaver: our L_C_D_ Ernesto Whitaker: Subtitles, Dennis Cleaver: screen, docking station, Ernesto Whitaker: buttons. Dennis Cleaver: scroll-buttons. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Seven. Dennis Cleaver: Seven? Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. So we've got twenty cents for our docking station, huh? Dennis Cleaver: Should be do-able. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. That's right. Dennis Cleaver: Is the design easy to use? Christian Page: Mm. Not Ernesto Whitaker: That's Christian Page: really. Ernesto Whitaker: a bit dodgy. Dennis Cleaver: Well Would be for us. But Christian Page: For old people Ernesto Whitaker: I would Christian Page: I Ernesto Whitaker: say Christian Page: I Ernesto Whitaker: four. Richard Conorich: Four Christian Page: W Richard Conorich: or five. Ernesto Whitaker: Four Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: or Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: five between. Christian Page: Four. Ernesto Whitaker: Between four or five. Dennis Cleaver: I'd go for four, too. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Is it functional? Dennis Cleaver: Is the design functional? Um, do we have all functions that we want to include? Ernesto Whitaker: Yes. Christian Page: N Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: I think we do. Do we have too many functions? Richard Conorich: No. Ernesto Whitaker: No. Christian Page: No. Dennis Cleaver: I don't think so. It's pretty slim. Ernesto Whitaker: Think it's uh seven. Dennis Cleaver: Seven. and do we um take care of the biggest frustrations of the remote control? Like it getting lost and Christian Page: Mm Dennis Cleaver: R_S_I_ Richard Conorich: Mm, we haven't Christian Page: m Richard Conorich: thought of that one. Dennis Cleaver: influences? Ernesto Whitaker: It was. Dennis Cleaver: Think we do. Ernesto Whitaker: I had them worked out. Mm. They are ugly, not very functional, and getting lost. Dennis Cleaver: Are the Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: production costs within the preset limits? Well they are now. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Does the design fit the group of focus? Richard Conorich: I think Christian Page: Mm, Richard Conorich: that's a three. Christian Page: th yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: No I think Dennis Cleaver: I think Ernesto Whitaker: with our Dennis Cleaver: it doesn't. Ernesto Whitaker: new Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: radio button, I think it's uh Christian Page: Uh Ernesto Whitaker: I think it's better. Christian Page: We have to test Dennis Cleaver: I don't Christian Page: it s Dennis Cleaver: know. Christian Page: But Richard Conorich: I still I think it's Dennis Cleaver: I think Ernesto Whitaker: I think Richard Conorich: too Ernesto Whitaker: it Richard Conorich: m too fancy. Too too Dennis Cleaver: I think Richard Conorich: flashy. Dennis Cleaver: a radio button is not exactly what older people expect to have a remote control. Christian Page: Uh, yeah, true. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. I would give it a four. Dennis Cleaver: I'm not sure. I think I'd go for two. Christian Page: I go for three. So Ernesto Whitaker: Then we have to do the three. It's the Dennis Cleaver: 'Kay. Dennis Cleaver: Is the company company recognisable? Ernesto Whitaker: Yes Christian Page: Yeah Ernesto Whitaker: it Christian Page: yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Well, Ernesto Whitaker: is. Dennis Cleaver: we have the logo there. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: So Ernesto Whitaker: And they wanna put fashion in their products. Uh in the slogan of the company. And we have the removable front cases. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: So, Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: I think it's very recognisable. Yep. Dennis Cleaver: So that will be this. I was also supposed to calculate the score, but thought we would have another private Ernesto Whitaker: We've got a calculate Dennis Cleaver: thingy after Ernesto Whitaker: it. Dennis Cleaver: this. Ernesto Whitaker: Mm? Richard Conorich: Twendag Dennis Cleaver: Is this Richard Conorich: sieven Dennis Cleaver: Like after Richard Conorich: an Dennis Cleaver: this, Richard Conorich: twendag. Dennis Cleaver: are we done? Or Ernesto Whitaker: N We've gonna Dennis Cleaver: We're gonna Ernesto Whitaker: We're Dennis Cleaver: go Ernesto Whitaker: going Dennis Cleaver: to our Ernesto Whitaker: to Dennis Cleaver: other Ernesto Whitaker: evaluate Dennis Cleaver: room again. Ernesto Whitaker: it. Dennis Cleaver: Well, anyhow. These are seven factors times seven is forty something. Two? No. Nine? Ernesto Whitaker: Forty nine. Dennis Cleaver: Uh, minus one. Minus three, minus four. Minus four. So that would be minus eight. Forty one Ernesto Whitaker: Forty one. Dennis Cleaver: out of forty nine. Ernesto Whitaker: That's Around Dennis Cleaver: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: eighty percent. What is it? Dennis Cleaver: Guess I'll just type that in on the bottom here. Ernesto Whitaker: That's eighty four percent. I Christian Page: Hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: think that's a pretty nice score. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Hmm. 'Kay. So that will be the evaluation. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Thank you. So, that brings us to the project evaluation. Yep. Thank you. Project process. Did we move through the right phases, you think? Along the process? Richard Conorich: Yes. Christian Page: Yeah. But it Dennis Cleaver: Think we should have a should have had the finance thingy a lot earlier. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: That's right. Dennis Cleaver: In the design phase. Ernesto Whitaker: So lack of information about prices. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: Yeah. Richard Conorich: That's Dennis Cleaver: Definitely. Richard Conorich: true. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Uh Okay. Satisfaction. Was there room for creativity? Dennis Cleaver: No. Ernesto Whitaker: No? Dennis Cleaver: Not too much. No. Ernesto Whitaker: It's because of the finance sheet. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Richard Conorich: Yeah, there w there was enough Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, Richard Conorich: room, Dennis Cleaver: true. Richard Conorich: but the finance Dennis Cleaver: But Ernesto Whitaker: The Richard Conorich: uh Ernesto Whitaker: room Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: was Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: And I would've liked to go for the younger users also. And just to be able to access internet and get something of your own. Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: Restrictions. Internet access. 'Kay. Leadership. Was it clear what everybody had to do uh according to their roles and functions? Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah? Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Teamwork? Did Christian Page: So Ernesto Whitaker: it work out? Working together? Also, you two of you with the uh Richard Conorich: Yes, was okay. Ernesto Whitaker: last Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: phase? Nice. Richard Conorich: The tasks are very structured, so you can just do step by step and Christian Page: Mm-hmm. Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Richard Conorich: it's very easy. Ernesto Whitaker: tasks. Okay. Were the means sufficient for the tasks uh we had to do? Or were they too much? Richard Conorich: Well, Christian Page: Mm. Richard Conorich: the smart-board, the d d drawing is just a pain in the ass, but Ernesto Whitaker: Smart-board. Richard Conorich: The digital the digital pen is very nice. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: If it wants Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Christian Page: But Ernesto Whitaker: to download its uh Richard Conorich: Yes. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Richard Conorich: Yeah. Christian Page: Uh Ernesto Whitaker: data. Failed download. Smart-board was irritating. So you rather wanted to have a flip-over? Or something Richard Conorich: A flip-over Ernesto Whitaker: else? Christian Page: Yeah. A flipper's Richard Conorich: or a more Christian Page: uh easier, Richard Conorich: precise Christian Page: so Richard Conorich: uh Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Faster Richard Conorich: digit Ernesto Whitaker: as well, Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: I think. Yeah. Flip-over. Christian Page: But if you want to share uh of uh when you make um a picture like this uh on the presentation, it's easier to uh share it with uh other people. Uh so uh you can sh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: save it uh and uh put it on the internet, or uh uh in shared f uh folder or uh sh uh shared Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, Christian Page: directory. Dennis Cleaver: I tried to Christian Page: So Dennis Cleaver: open the file Christian Page: So Dennis Cleaver: on my laptop, Christian Page: Yeah? Dennis Cleaver: but Richard Conorich: No. Christian Page: No? Richard Conorich: Didn't work. Dennis Cleaver: not possible. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh you need a smart board uh Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: application I think. Christian Page: T can uh Ernesto Whitaker: But Christian Page: can you Ernesto Whitaker: I think Christian Page: export Ernesto Whitaker: you can Christian Page: it uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: like a Ernesto Whitaker: Should be possible. Dennis Cleaver: no. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah you can export it as image. Must Yeah must be Dennis Cleaver: Should've done that then. Ernesto Whitaker: So the sharing of the information was uh was okay? Dennis Cleaver: Pen is here. Richard Conorich: Yes. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh, network. Christian Page: Uh. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah, pen is here on the table. Christian Page: Uh, yeah. So you Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: can Uh Dennis Cleaver: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: It's Christian Page: It's Ernesto Whitaker: possible. Christian Page: possible. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Christian Page: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: That's nice. Have we found new ideas for having this kind of meetings? Or Christian Page: Um, yeah Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: Um it's uh easier to uh to do the th things that are like that on a computer. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: Uh, so uh just l uh Ernesto Whitaker: So Christian Page: like uh at u university uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: So Ernesto Whitaker: So everybody Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: puts his own score. And Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: then Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: it mediates the score, and Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: you can get one Richard Conorich: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. That's better. So that's uh How do we call? Ernesto Whitaker: Evaluation criteria. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Mm, any more ideas? Or questions about the project? Or about the product? Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: Because I think then that we get to our last sheet. Are the costs within the budget? Christian Page: Mm yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: They are. Richard Conorich: Considering Ernesto Whitaker: Do we Richard Conorich: we are not going to make a docking station. Ernesto Whitaker: Docking station. That's a good point. But maybe because of the docking station the price of the remote can also be a little bit higher? Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh Richard Conorich: Perhaps. Ernesto Whitaker: and I think you can compensate that as well. Christian Page: Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: So I think that shouldn't be the biggest problem, because it's very cheap to make as well. Richard Conorich: Mm-hmm. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Do we think we gonna get the twelve and a half million? Or what was it? Dennis Cleaver: Fifty grand. Ernesto Whitaker: Fifteen fifteen million. I think we will. If we gonna export this product. It's Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: innovative. Especially in America. People are pretty decadent. Christian Page: Yeah. Mm. Ernesto Whitaker: Sometimes. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, still I Christian Page: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: think I mean if we're n gonna make a scroll-button anyway Ernesto Whitaker: You Dennis Cleaver: it'd Ernesto Whitaker: can Dennis Cleaver: be Ernesto Whitaker: do Dennis Cleaver: more Ernesto Whitaker: more. Dennis Cleaver: for the younger people than for the older people. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: Ah. Dennis Cleaver: So maybe we should just re-focus. Ernesto Whitaker: Just put it on the market for everybody. You Christian Page: Ah. Dennis Cleaver: Or Ernesto Whitaker: can Dennis Cleaver: specifically for Ernesto Whitaker: you Dennis Cleaver: younger Ernesto Whitaker: can change Dennis Cleaver: people. Ernesto Whitaker: markets where by changing the front covers. Christian Page: Ah. Ernesto Whitaker: That's one thing you can Dennis Cleaver: That's true. Ernesto Whitaker: change it with. So you can also try to uh reach the younger people by uh putting fancy covers on on the market. Just as a test. See how it works. That's I think a good advantage. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, I think then it would be way more uh popular with younger people than it is, than would be with older people. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Dennis Cleaver: Even if it were their covers. Christian Page: Hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: Uh, uh Dennis Cleaver: But Ernesto Whitaker: then I think we can have our little celebration, right now. That's it. Dennis Cleaver: Party party. Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. I think we still have to fit in one more questionnaire. Christian Page: Where's the champagne? Dennis Cleaver: 'Kay. Ernesto Whitaker: I think. I don't know. I didn't get a message from the from ending of the Christian Page: Uh, I believe y uh Ernesto Whitaker: Oh Dennis Cleaver: Oh Ernesto Whitaker: I Dennis Cleaver: you Ernesto Whitaker: think Dennis Cleaver: did. Ernesto Whitaker: I have one now. Five more minutes? Oh that's Christian Page: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: nice. Then we still have some questions. If somebody has some questions they can ask them now. Or we can put these in the project folder as well. Dennis Cleaver: Mm-hmm. Ernesto Whitaker: Maybe that's Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Export as picture, I think. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Hmm. This is another network, I guess. Ernesto Whitaker: Does somebody see the project folder? I don't. Hmm. My Documents. Christian Page: Uh maybe uh they will save it. So uh Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah, I'll just Dennis Cleaver: Yeah, Ernesto Whitaker: put it Dennis Cleaver: it Ernesto Whitaker: in Dennis Cleaver: probably Ernesto Whitaker: My Documents Dennis Cleaver: will. Ernesto Whitaker: and uh That's okay. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. I think I'm going to make our final presentation now. Dennis Cleaver: Oh yeah, you're supposed to make Ernesto Whitaker: And then Dennis Cleaver: a final Ernesto Whitaker: I will be back in about ten minutes to show you the final presentation. Christian Page: Okay. Richard Conorich: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: Summary of the project. Dennis Cleaver: Are we supposed to go into our own rooms again? Christian Page: Uh maybe we have to fill uh another Ernesto Whitaker: Yeah. Christian Page: questionnaire. Ernesto Whitaker: Questionnaire. Christian Page: So uh Ernesto Whitaker: I think you Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: all get a questionnaire in Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: in your room. Christian Page: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: And then I'll meet you in I think about ten minutes, Richard Conorich: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: or something. Christian Page: Okay. Ernesto Whitaker: Okay. Thank you. Hopefully my pen will download its software. Dennis Cleaver: Yeah. Ernesto Whitaker: Oh. Or data. Dennis Cleaver: That'd be nice.

In the detailed design meeting the team created a prototype. Along with buttons for numbers, channel selector, volume, mute, on-off, teletext, and subtitles, the prototype included an LCD screen and a help button for functional information. One rechargable battery, single-curve form and plastic case, brought the total cost to 17 Euros. To reduce this cost, it was decided to replace most buttons with a scrollwheel. The remaining buttons were one for channel selection, one for volume (both assisted by the scrollwheel), teletext, on-off and the help button. A suggestion to target the product to a younger or perhaps more general group was met with approval. All these components were re-arranged in a revised prototype. It was evaluated on a scale from 1 to 7 on the basis of the following criteria: fancy design (6), technological innovation (4), functionality (7), consideration of the target group (3). The remote was also recognisable as a fashionable Real Reaction product. The project process was deemed well-structured, although everyone thought it would have been better had they known the component prices at an earlier stage. Teamword and leadership were good, but room for creativity impeded by budget constraints.

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Andrew Lee: Good morning. Andrew Lee: Sorry? Yeah, busy job. Andrew Lee: Good morning. Andrew Lee: So Oh, good morning everyone. Chad Hodge: Good morning. Donald Showers: Good morning. Andrew Lee: I'd uh like to welcome you to our first meeting. I've prepared a little presentation. My name is and uh I hope you will introduce yourself uh in a few minutes, as will I. Um I'm Andrew Lee of this project, and uh, well I will tell you on what actually is the project. This is uh the agenda for our first meeting. Um this is the opening, then we will get I will hope we will get acquainted to each other. We'll do a little tool training with these two things. We'll take a look at the project plan. Uh there will be time for discussion. Actually we have to discuss because we have to create a product. And then we will close this session. Um but first of all we I'd like to uh introduce you to this room. Um as you probably have noticed there are little black uh fields on the table. Um you have to put your laptop exactly in that field so the little cameras can see your face. Um there are cameras everywhere around the room especially here for your face, of course, and this isn't a pie, it's a a set of microphones and there are microphones here also. But please uh don't be afraid of them. They won't hurt you. Donald Showers: Well Andrew Lee: Um well uh I said I'm Andrew Lee and uh I'm hoping uh for a good project and uh I'd like to hear uh who you are and what your functions are uh on this project. Let's start with the ladies. Donald Showers: Well uh I'm and my uh function is User Interface Design, I think. So uh that's Charles Norden. Chad Hodge: Okay, uh I'm uh I'm Chad Hodge and I uh hope to uh look forward to uh a very uh pleasing uh end of this uh project. Andrew Lee: Okay, so Donald Showers: Charles Norden too. Andrew Lee: I. Charles Norden: My name's. I'm uh Marketing Expert My. job is in the company to promote company or promote products to the customers. So I also h hope we have a pleasant uh working with uh with each other. Andrew Lee: Okay, well we have some expertise from uh different pieces of the of the company. That's good. Um well I said uh we're working on a project and the aim for the project is to to create a to design a new remote control which uh has to be original, trendy and of course, user friendly. And uh I hope we have the expertise to create such a project such a product. Um the way we hope to achieve that is uh the following methods. It consists of three phases, namely the functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. As you can see, all of these phases consists of two parts, namely individual work part and a meeting where we will discuss uh our work so far. Okay. But first I will uh tell you something about the tools we have here. I already talked about the cameras and microphones, but they are not of uh much use to us. Uh we will have to take advantage of these two things. They are smart boards. As you can see, you can give a presentation on them. And uh this one here is a white board. I will uh instruct you about that soon. Um as you also noticed uh this presentation document is in our uh project folder and every document you put in this folder uh is uh it is possible to show that here in our meeting room. Um and yeah there are available on both smart boards but I think we will uh mainly use this one for the documents in the shared folder. As you can see, this is the same tool bar uh as is located here. Um the most functions uh we will use will be to to add a new page, um uh to go back and forward between pages, and of course uh to save it every now and then. Um and this is the pen with which you can draw on the board, for instance like this if everything's okay, but I first have to put it on the pen, you see I'm new to it too. Um and then you can Donald Showers: Oh. Andrew Lee: write things like test or whatever you want. As you can see you have to move it a little bit slow, it's not such a fast board, it's a smart board but also a slow board. Uh but you can write things and of course you can also, when you click here, uh erase things, so we have uh est left. And um you can also delete an entire page, but we ask you not to do that. Just simply create a new one and uh start all over because we want to save all the results. Um does everyone understand this Donald Showers: So Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Donald Showers: we Chad Hodge: Yeah. Donald Showers: can't erase Andrew Lee: nice application? Donald Showers: anything. Andrew Lee: Well you can erase it with the eraser, but uh you shouldn't delete an entire page, but just Donald Showers: Right. Andrew Lee: create a Charles Norden: S Andrew Lee: new blank one. I will delete this one now because we don't use it yet. Donald Showers: Alright. Andrew Lee: But you can of course erase when you make a mistake, but don't uh delete entire pages. And you can also um let's see I think it's here uh change the uh colour of your pen, for instance take a blue one and uh change the line width like to five. Um that's what you will need for our first exercise, because I'm uh going to ask you to draw your favourite animal. It's also to gets to know each other because um Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: I'm asking three things, uh for that uh drawing, to do it on a blank sheet, with different colours and I just showed you how to pick a colour, pen widths which I also showed you. Um and a favourite characteristic can be just uh one word. Well I'm not very good at drawing, but I will uh go first and um try to draw Or maybe you should guess what I'm drawing, eh. Charles Norden: Good. Chad Hodge: Hmm. Charles Norden: No. Donald Showers: It's a sheep. Charles Norden: Dinos Chad Hodge: Seal, Charles Norden: Dinosaur. Chad Hodge: a seal. Charles Norden: Beaver. Chad Hodge: A be Donald Showers: A beaver. Andrew Lee: Well Donald Showers: It's Andrew Lee: it uh Donald Showers: weird. Andrew Lee: could be everything. Chad Hodge: Mm. With a tail and a mouth. Andrew Lee: Maybe when I put on Donald Showers: It has wings? Charles Norden: Turtle. Andrew Lee: this thing it could be a turtle, Chad Hodge: Snail. Andrew Lee: or a snail, and Donald Showers: Well the snail doesn't have legs. Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: But a turtle has. And those are slow. And I hope our project group will not be slow, but we will uh work to a good result and do it uh as fast as we can. Okay, time for another animal. Would you like to go next? Chad Hodge: Sure. Charles Norden: No problem. No problem. Donald Showers: Oh right. Charles Norden: Mm. It was four months? Charles Norden: Nice, okay. Donald Showers: Well. Chad Hodge: The hell. Charles Norden: To make it a little bit easier. Donald Showers: It's a giraffe. Chad Hodge: Make that cute. Charles Norden: No, it's a giraffe. 'Kay. I think it's r uh to recognise as Donald Showers: Yes. Charles Norden: a giraffe. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Donald Showers: Giraffe. Charles Norden: Yeah, the favourite charis characteristic is that the long neck, it can reach everything. And I hope I can also reach a lot with this project. So that's my favourite animal. Andrew Lee: Okay. Charles Norden: Anything else you need Andrew Lee: Could Charles Norden: to Andrew Lee: you Charles Norden: know? Andrew Lee: write the words, uh underneath it? Charles Norden: Oh, Andrew Lee: Or more words. Charles Norden: uh Chad Hodge: Tall. Charles Norden: Tall. So, 'kay. Donald Showers: Should I uh Alright. So I can draw, but uh Uh. Well. Oh. Chad Hodge: B Charles Norden: It's a mouse. Chad Hodge: Bunny rabbit. Charles Norden: A bunny rabbit. Donald Showers: Oh wrong one. Uh. Well uh you can guess what it is, I hope. Charles Norden: Uh-huh. No problem. Donald Showers: It's a rabbit. Andrew Lee: Little rabbits. Donald Showers: And uh well uh it's uh quick, I guess. Donald Showers: That's uh my uh favourite animal. Andrew Lee: Okay, Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: thank you. And our final drawing. Charles Norden: Bob Ross. Charles Norden: Dolphin. Donald Showers: A dolphin. Chad Hodge: Okay, um. Chad Hodge: Uh I uh draw I I've drawn a dolphin because of its intelligence. One of the Donald Showers: Right. Chad Hodge: most intelligent uh Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: animals in our world. Donald Showers: Well. Chad Hodge: Yeah Donald Showers: With Chad Hodge: intelligent. Donald Showers: an E_. Chad Hodge: I've I've uh Eraser. Donald Showers: You can try out the eraser now. Chad Hodge: Pen. Well not perfect, but okay. Andrew Lee: Okay, well thank you very much. I can see we have some uh drawing talent uh in this group, Donald Showers: Not Andrew Lee: huh? Donald Showers: really. Andrew Lee: Well, nice animals, nice words. Sounds good. Um back to business, back to the money part. Um from the finance department I have learned that we are aiming for a selling price of twenty five Euros. And we're hoping for a aim of fifty million Euros and uh we are hoping to achieve that uh by aiming for an international market. And the production cost will be twelve Euro fifty max. Okay, well it's time uh for some discussion. I've wrote down some examples here of what we can can speak about. Uh what's your experience with remote controls, um what kind of ideas do you have to design a new remote control, maybe for which market segments should we aim, or should we aim for all segments. Uh well actually I'd like to hand the word uh back to you. What's your experience with remote control? Chad Hodge: A Donald Showers: I Chad Hodge: lot Donald Showers: always Chad Hodge: of buttons. Donald Showers: lose them. Charles Norden: Yeah. Chad Hodge: And you always lose them. Donald Showers: Yes. Chad Hodge: A lot of buttons which Donald Showers: Yeah. Chad Hodge: you don't use Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: or who you don't use Charles Norden: Complex. Chad Hodge: Complex. Donald Showers: Yeah. Chad Hodge: Not user friendly. Charles Norden: No. Donald Showers: search for the buttons, which one is Charles Norden: No. Donald Showers: which and uh Charles Norden: Boring. Andrew Lee: Boring, it's not fun to use a Charles Norden: No. Andrew Lee: remote. Chad Hodge: Mm. Charles Norden: Black, all black. Donald Showers: Well. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Charles Norden: So, Chad Hodge: Black colours. Charles Norden: yeah. Andrew Lee: Well maybe we should try to make it fun. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: They use batteries and batteries uh and poor signal. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Charles Norden: Yeah. Chad Hodge: Uh. Charles Norden: The the Donald Showers: Perhaps that Charles Norden: angle Donald Showers: you have a Charles Norden: you Donald Showers: lot Charles Norden: have Donald Showers: of Charles Norden: to use. Donald Showers: road remotes r road Charles Norden: You had different Donald Showers: con Charles Norden: remote Donald Showers: remote Charles Norden: controls Chad Hodge: Yeah, Donald Showers: controls. Chad Hodge: different Charles Norden: for Chad Hodge: remote Charles Norden: different Chad Hodge: controls, Charles Norden: devices. Donald Showers: Yes, Chad Hodge: yeah. Donald Showers: perhaps Charles Norden: Yes. Donald Showers: you can integrate them or something. Chad Hodge: Uh for the use of different Donald Showers: Yes. Chad Hodge: uh devices. Charles Norden: Yeah. Donald Showers: Your Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Donald Showers: stereo and your T_V_ and uh. Perhaps Charles Norden: Yeah Donald Showers: that's Charles Norden: but Donald Showers: an idea. Charles Norden: then again you you still have a lot of buttons, Donald Showers: Yeah, that's right. Charles Norden: so Chad Hodge: Yeah but Donald Showers: And Chad Hodge: you could Donald Showers: which you Chad Hodge: uh Donald Showers: don't Chad Hodge: I Donald Showers: use. Chad Hodge: thin uh there's a possibility to g uh to uh to put those buttons uh behind some uh kind of uh Charles Norden: Flap Chad Hodge: protection so Charles Norden: yeah. Chad Hodge: that Donald Showers: Right. Chad Hodge: if y y you only get to see them when you need 'em. Charles Norden: Yeah, okay, that's possible, Chad Hodge: That's possible, so that Charles Norden: but it'll Chad Hodge: you only Charles Norden: get very Chad Hodge: get the Charles Norden: big the Donald Showers: Yeah. Charles Norden: the remote Chad Hodge: No Charles Norden: control. Chad Hodge: n Donald Showers: You Chad Hodge: n no, Donald Showers: should Chad Hodge: just Donald Showers: just give it to. Chad Hodge: Uh for example you got th uh the same size uh remote control you use everyday, but um Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: the usual buttons such as uh um zapping uh as you call it in Dutch. Uh and the volume Donald Showers: Changing Chad Hodge: control Donald Showers: channel. Chad Hodge: uh are only the only possible buttons uh to use directly. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: Or uh Charles Norden: numbers. Chad Hodge: the numbers, of course. But uh Charles Norden: On and off. Chad Hodge: not uh the buttons used to search on the the channels on your television. You only use those uh the first time, or. Charles Norden: Yeah, play, Chad Hodge: So. Charles Norden: pause, stop. Chad Hodge: Uh. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. So maybe a a minimalist design, Chad Hodge: Yeah, Andrew Lee: the Chad Hodge: I Andrew Lee: least Chad Hodge: think so, Andrew Lee: uh possible Donald Showers: Yes. Chad Hodge: yeah. Andrew Lee: amount uh of buttons. Donald Showers: But you should make sure that you have every button they need on it. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm, Donald Showers: Because Charles Norden: of Donald Showers: uh Charles Norden: course. Donald Showers: things for uh teletext, I dunno Chad Hodge: Yeah, Donald Showers: uh, w what's Chad Hodge: uh Donald Showers: the name? Chad Hodge: teletext. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: think so. Okay. Andrew Lee: So you don't want to bother people with uh loads of buttons, but Charles Norden: No. Andrew Lee: on the other hand they need many buttons so they don't have to get out of their seat. Donald Showers: Yeah. Charles Norden: Yeah. Donald Showers: But Chad Hodge: Right. Charles Norden: Because I think a market will be all kind of people. Elderly p el elderly, Donald Showers: But if Charles Norden: young Donald Showers: if it's Charles Norden: people, Donald Showers: if it's international Charles Norden: so. Donald Showers: you should uh look in think in Britain they have uh different things they can do with the T_V_, or so uh that you can choose what you want to see. I dunno if you should uh take that in consideration, or Chad Hodge: Uh. Donald Showers: that you just should aim for the normal T_V_s that uh Charles Norden: Yeah Chad Hodge: Yeah Charles Norden: I Chad Hodge: I Charles Norden: think Chad Hodge: I understand. Charles Norden: that's the better Donald Showers: And Charles Norden: one, Donald Showers: the B_B_C_. Charles Norden: because I think if you you're going to target a lot of people and the whole world and only Britain then I think Donald Showers: Yes. Chad Hodge: No. Charles Norden: the cost will uh rise higher than the twelve fifty, I think. Donald Showers: Yeah, I don't know if the Charles Norden: I think Donald Showers: they have Charles Norden: the Donald Showers: that anywhere Charles Norden: aim is Donald Showers: else, Charles Norden: better to Donald Showers: though. Charles Norden: use uh the whole world and Britain, Chad Hodge: Yeah. Charles Norden: yeah. Donald Showers: Yeah, we can leave Chad Hodge: When I think Charles Norden: Not Chad Hodge: of Donald Showers: that. Charles Norden: that Chad Hodge: it Charles Norden: much. Chad Hodge: uh I think the main idea uh of this remote remote control is uh to make it user friendly. So uh I think uh when p uh when uh the customers will buy this remote control, they already have uh the remote control which uh companies uh Charles Norden: Mm. Donald Showers: Yeah. Chad Hodge: uh Charles Norden: Standard Chad Hodge: with uh Charles Norden: deliver. Chad Hodge: the the standards uh remote control with which comes uh with the television. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Charles Norden: Mm. Chad Hodge: So uh it only has to have uh the most used buttons. You don't have to integrate the buttons to search the channels on your television. In Charles Norden: No Chad Hodge: those Donald Showers: Well but Charles Norden: but Chad Hodge: in Donald Showers: but Chad Hodge: that Donald Showers: then you have to to Charles Norden: Yeah. Donald Showers: find your other remote Charles Norden: Yeah, Donald Showers: control if Charles Norden: th Donald Showers: you want to search. Charles Norden: it Donald Showers: That's Charles Norden: it's Donald Showers: not Charles Norden: I think Chad Hodge: Yeah but Charles Norden: that's Chad Hodge: I Charles Norden: not Chad Hodge: but it is impossible to uh to accommodate uh accommodate uh all the buttons on the s on the difference different Donald Showers: Yeah, that's Chad Hodge: televisions sets Donald Showers: right. Chad Hodge: on one remote control. It's impossible. Charles Norden: Yeah, okay. Chad Hodge: Because uh for example Sony television uh has the opportunity to s to make uh uh to make it possible for to see on one side of the screen uh teletext, and on the other side Charles Norden: No. Chad Hodge: uh just Donald Showers: Yeah Chad Hodge: n uh regular Donald Showers: that's Chad Hodge: television. Donald Showers: uh. Chad Hodge: Uh Charles Norden: I think n m n most televisions nowadays do this. Chad Hodge: Yeah, but uh they Donald Showers: Well Chad Hodge: don't Donald Showers: not everywhere. Chad Hodge: use Charles Norden: So Chad Hodge: the same signal, Charles Norden: I think numerals. Chad Hodge: uh on remote control. Because you can't use a Panasonic uh remote control on a on a Philips television. Charles Norden: Yeah, but then you have to choose the this always with r universal remotes you have to choose Donald Showers: Yeah, you Charles Norden: the Donald Showers: can choose Charles Norden: code. Donald Showers: the code. Charles Norden: You Chad Hodge: Okay. Charles Norden: can use which which Chad Hodge: Okay. Charles Norden: type of television you have. That's no problem. Chad Hodge: Okay. Charles Norden: But I think like the two pages on the same screen, like teletext and normal television, that's that's nowadays standard, I think. Chad Hodge: Okay, but uh I think that most people uh th uh will buy the remote control because because uh Charles Norden: Simplicity. Chad Hodge: the first they lost the one they lost first one or Charles Norden: Yeah. Chad Hodge: the first one is broken, so Charles Norden: Yeah, yeah. Chad Hodge: uh uh perhaps they have a got a an older television, Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Chad Hodge: so that option is not Donald Showers: Yeah. Charles Norden: Yeah Chad Hodge: uh Charles Norden: g available. Chad Hodge: optional for those uh people. Donald Showers: But Charles Norden: True. Donald Showers: the people have a new television, and c if you look into the future, then they want will Chad Hodge: Yeah, Donald Showers: want Charles Norden: Yeah. Donald Showers: the button, if Chad Hodge: yeah. Donald Showers: their thing is broke. Chad Hodge: So we should take that in consideration. Donald Showers: Yeah. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Andrew Lee: Mm-hmm. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Andrew Lee: Okay, well any more ideas? Chad Hodge: Oh mm, no. Charles Norden: Of course. Andrew Lee: No? Donald Showers: Guess not. Chad Hodge: Things'll come up. Charles Norden: Yeah. Andrew Lee: Okay, yeah well we have some time. Let's see what more I have to tell you. I don't think there is much left. Nope. We're starting to close. Um our next meeting uh will start well we're a little bit early, but our next meeting will start in in thirty minutes. In the meantime uh there's time for some uh individual actions. Um, as you can see, the different roles have uh different tasks. And there's a ping. Is it my laptop? Charles Norden: Yeah. Andrew Lee: Yep. Chad Hodge: Stop the meeting Andrew Lee: Ah Chad Hodge: now. Donald Showers: Yeah meeting will close Andrew Lee: well Donald Showers: in five Andrew Lee: that's Donald Showers: minutes. Andrew Lee: good, five minutes and uh the meeting's over, uh Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: right on schedule. Um Charles Norden will uh will take a look at the user requirement specification. Donald Showers will work out the technical functions design. And this was the Interface Designer? Or Donald Showers: Hmm Andrew Lee: the Interaction Chad Hodge: Mm. Donald Showers: hmm. Andrew Lee: Designer. Or what was Donald Showers: No Chad Hodge: No? Charles Norden: Interface. Donald Showers: interface. Andrew Lee: it, I_D_? Interface Designer, okay, first guess was right. Uh will take a look at the the working design. Chad Hodge: No, the Industrial Donald Showers: No Chad Hodge: Designer Donald Showers: the Chad Hodge: will take Donald Showers: Yeah. Chad Hodge: a look at the working design, and the in uh usability interaction Andrew Lee: Industrial Designer, okay, Chad Hodge: Yeah, okay. Andrew Lee: sorry. Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: Let's just use the acronyms. Donald Showers: So Andrew Lee: Um and of course specific instructions uh will be sent to you uh through your personal coach. Donald Showers: So I should look at uh what you should be able to do with the remote, or uh, or how Andrew Lee: Uh Donald Showers: I don't Andrew Lee: well Donald Showers: really Andrew Lee: those instructions will be uh Donald Showers: Right. Andrew Lee: in the email you will receive Donald Showers: Alright. Andrew Lee: uh shortly, I hope. Donald Showers: Charles Norden too. Andrew Lee: And of course you have your own uh expertise. Well uh Charles Norden: Uh-huh. Andrew Lee: that was what I had to say. Uh Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: are there any more questions? Charles Norden: No. Chad Hodge: No. Andrew Lee: No? Okay well I think then we have to head uh back to our offices and uh start working. Charles Norden: I have one Chad Hodge: Okay. Charles Norden: question. Andrew Lee: Okay, one question? Chad Hodge: Oh. Charles Norden: Where does it says we have to make a remote, because I presumed She didn't know who. Okay, no, no problem. Andrew Lee: Okay we're still going. Chad Hodge: No problem. Charles Norden: No Andrew Lee: Okay, Charles Norden: problem. Andrew Lee: well I expect Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: everything will be much clearer with the Charles Norden: Yeah. Andrew Lee: instructions we will receive uh shortly. Charles Norden: Mm-hmm. Donald Showers: Alright. Andrew Lee: Okay well Chad Hodge: Alrighty. Andrew Lee: uh see you all in about thirty minutes, then. Donald Showers: Yeah. Chad Hodge: Okay. Andrew Lee: Thank you very much. Donald Showers: Yeah. Okay.

Andrew Lee acquainted the team with the tools and equipment around them and then had the team members introduce themselves by name and what role they had in the project. Andrew Lee then introduced the upcoming project along with more tools and equipment to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals. After the drawing exercise, Andrew Lee talked about the project finances and production costs. The team then discussed their experiences with remotes and various features to consider when producing a remote.

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James Cornish: Good morning, again. Howard Rosario: One question. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Choose Howard Rosario: Send. Paul Krigger: a number? Howard Rosario: Submit. Humberto Scott: Yep yep yep yep. James Cornish: All Howard Rosario: Mm. James Cornish: set? Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: Good Okay. Let's see what we can find here. Okay. A very warm welcome again to everyone. Um here we are already at our uh functional design meeting. Um and this is what we are going to do. The opening, which we are doing now, um and the special note, I'm project manager but on the meetings I'm also the secretary, which means I will make uh minutes as I did of the previous meeting. And uh I put these as fast as possible in the uh project folder, so you can see them and review what we have discussed. Um if I'm right, there are three presentations, I guess each one of you has prepared one? Paul Krigger: Yes. James Cornish: Good. And um we will also take a look at new project requirements, um if you haven't heard about them yet. And then of course we have to take a decision on the remote control functions and we have some more time, forty minutes. But I think we will need it. Um well I don't know who wants to go first with his presentation. Howard Rosario: I'll go first. Okay. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: I'll go first Paul Krigger: Well. James Cornish: You Howard Rosario: yeah. James Cornish: can go first, okay. Humberto Scott: Well, shall I go first with the users? Paul Krigger: Well Humberto Scott: I think well okay no problem. James Cornish: Is there Paul Krigger: everybody James Cornish: an order? I Paul Krigger: already James Cornish: haven't Paul Krigger: has Humberto Scott: Ja Paul Krigger: his presentation, Humberto Scott: precies, ja precies, Paul Krigger: so Howard Rosario: So. Humberto Scott: ja precies Paul Krigger: you can adjust Howard Rosario: Huh? Paul Krigger: it. Howard Rosario: Okay, um James Cornish: And one question, uh your name Denni, is it with a Humberto Scott: E_I_E_. James Cornish: I_E_ E_I_E_, okay. Thank you. Howard Rosario: Okay, um I wanted to explain the working design of the remote control. It's possibly very handy if you want to uh design one of those. Um well so it basically works uh as I uh uh r wrote down uh in this uh little uh summary. Uh you press a button, uh that's when you do pr example when you uh want to turn up the volume, um a little connection is made uh the the rubber uh button just presses on a James Cornish: Sorry. Howard Rosario: on a little print plate uh which uh makes uh uh a connection that uh gives the chips, uh which is uh mounted beneath those uh that plastic of a rubber button. Uh senses that a connection has been made, and know and knows what button you pressed, becau uh for example the the volume up or volume down button. Um uh the the chip uh makes a Morse code uh like uh signal which uh then is si uh signalled to uh several transistors which makes uh which sends the signal to a little let. You know what a let is? Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Okay. And that makes uh the the infra-red lights signal which is sent to the television set. Uh which has a sensor in it to uh sense uh the signal of the infra-red. That's basically uh how it works. Um the findings uh uh that I found uh searching up some uh detailed information about the remote controls, are that uh they are very easy to produce, uh it is pis uh it's possible to uh make them in mass production because it is as eas it is as easy as uh printing a page, uh just uh fibreglass plate um is b uh is uh covered with uh some uh coatings and uh uh and chips. Uh and the technology's already available, we don't have to find out how remote controls uh have to work or uh how that how uh to make some chips that are possible to uh to to transmit those uh signals. Uh I made a little uh uh animation of about how a tran our Paul Krigger: Oh Howard Rosario: uh Paul Krigger: right. Howard Rosario: remote controller works. Humberto Scott: Animation. Howard Rosario: we tel Paul Krigger: There is something turning. Howard Rosario: There. James Cornish: Yeah, it's a little bug it's in the in the smart board. Howard Rosario: Okay. Uh well the sub-component, I suppose that you understand what a sub-component is, is f in this example it's the button. Uh when it is pressed down, um, the switch is ter is uh is switched on, so with uh the wire is sent to the to the chip in uh co-operation with the battery of course, because to make uh a a signal possible you have to have some sort of uh li uh a d ad uh electronic uh Humberto Scott: Infrared light. Howard Rosario: Yes, uh, okay. Um w after it's being composed by the chip uh the signal uh is transported uh to the infra-red bulb, and from there it signals a Morse code-like signal to the to the b to the bulb in uh in the television set. Okay. S Uh I wrote down some personal preferences about uh the remote control. Of course it is very handy if the remote control is hand held, so you don't have to uh uh wind it up or something, or just is it's it's very light to uh to make uh to use it. Uh I personally uh pref prefer that uh it would be p uh come available in the various colours, and uh easy to use buttons. But I suppose that the one of the other team members Paul Krigger: Yeah, I've got Howard Rosario: uh Paul Krigger: it there too. Howard Rosario: uh thought of that uh too. And it is possible for several designs and um easy to use b uh sorry, easy to use buttons. Perhaps soft touch, uh touch screen uh buttons because uh the rubber buttons are always uh uh they uh slightly uh they can be slightly damaged, uh so the numbers on the buttons are not possible uh to read anymore. And uh well as I said uh before th uh we can uh make several designs. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Okay, well, that's my contribution to this meeting, and uh Humberto Scott: To this meeting. James Cornish: Okay, Howard Rosario: two James Cornish: thank Howard Rosario: of James Cornish: you. Howard Rosario: these this Paul Krigger: Shall Howard Rosario: meeting. Paul Krigger: I go uh next? James Cornish: Yep. Howard Rosario: So. Paul Krigger: 'Kay. James Cornish: Please. Paul Krigger: So. Humberto Scott: Smoking. Paul Krigger: Well uh, my name's, and I looked at uh technical functions design of the remote. Uh I did this by uh looking at examples other remote controls, of how they uh they look, and information from the web that I found. Um well what I found was that uh th the actual use of the remote control is to send messages to television set, how you uh d what you described uh just early. And this can be all sorts of medsa messages, turn it on, turn it off, uh change the channel, adjust volume, that kind of thing. Uh play video, teletext, but also t uh play C_D_ if you use it your C_D_ player the remote control will that one. There are some uh examples of remote controls. You can see they are very different. The one has got all the functions that you could possibly need and an lot of uh buttons etcetera. And the other is uh more user friendly, little with big buttons. And uh not n all the the the the stuff you can do with it, but uh the the essential stuff is there. Um I guess you could better y you should look at a a user centred uh approach, because the customers have to use them and and if they don't think it's usable they won't uh buy it. A lot of buttons they may think from I don't need s as much as that. Uh, well perf personal preferences is is uh a simple remote, with uh the basic functions that you can need that you could use. But uh keep in mind the new functions of T_V_ what we discussed earlier, split screen and uh is that a function that you should have? Because all the T_V_s will have them. Or because of only a few and isn't really necessary. And then uh make it I would make so that you can could uh use it on more than one appliance. If you have one that uh uh does with the vi the the video, it could also work with uh with the stereo, because play is play and stop stop and that sort of thing. The shu c you could reuse the buttons so that you don't have to have a lot of buttons for uh anything. And it should be a user friendly, clear buttons, and not too much. And that is my presentation. James Cornish: Okay, Howard Rosario: Okay. James Cornish: thank you. Humberto Scott: 'Kay. Check. Paul Krigger: You must still have it open. Humberto Scott: Kijke Humberto Scott: 'Kay, so. We're going to j discuss the functional requirements of the remote, that m that means that functions user n want to have on the remote control, or just Yeah, and the users, actually. The methods I I prefer is we're going to look which section of the users we are going to focus a l on more. Are the younger people going to buy the remote control or the elderly people? And then tho that section we're going to focus and adjust the remote more to that section than the whole user section. Okay. Some data. Younger people, from sixteen to thir forty five um years are more interested in fj features like L_C_D_ screens, speech recognition e etcetera. And we possess about two third of the market from in that range of age. The elderly people, from forty five years to sixty five years are not that much interested in features, and we possess less than two third, that's two fifth, of the market share in that area. Goed so. Howard Rosario: Hmm. Humberto Scott: 'Kay. Findings. Fifty percent of the users lose their remote often. So we don't have to make it very small, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: like uh like a mobile phone or something, but some somewhat bi bigger than small, so you don't lose it that much anymore. Seventy five percent of the users also find it ugly, Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: and fif seventy five of the users zap a lot, so the buttons sh should be that small, or shouldn't be that complex because we have to search for the buttons, which one are you going to use. Next. Important issues about the remote. I think it would be better with a personal reference, but okay. Remote control has to have to have a low power usage, because s w seventy five percent of the users only zap one time an hour, so the power usage is also one one time an hour, or so, with a high power usage we would use a lot of but batteries. The volume button and the channel buttons are the two most important buttons on the remote control, so those they those have to h be find very easily. And have to be somewhat like bigger etcetera. It has also be have to find easily when the label is gone. My colleague Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: also announced it that labels should be scratched off Paul Krigger: Hmm. Humberto Scott: or would be s uh senden okay. So uh if that's k uh if that's the problem, you also have to find it easily on the remote. Buttons. Like what all colleagues said, have to have to be minimalized. or should be covered, or in L_C_D_ screen. L_C_D_ screen is easy because we have the L_C_D_ screen, we have the various options. Put one option and then you have the all the buttons of that options, so the other options would be gone. And you don't see the buttons. So L_C_D_ screens should be easy, but an L_C_D_ screen, the problem with the L_ sc L_C_D_ screen is that elderly people fr from forty five to for sixty five years don't use the L_C_D_ screen a lot. So we have to that keep that in mind that if you're going to implement L_C_D_ screen, you don't have to make it that hard to learn or to use. Howard Rosario: Uh L_C_D_ screen as in uh touch screen? Humberto Scott: Yeah, touch screen, Howard Rosario: Okay. Humberto Scott: yeah. The last but not least, younger people are more critical about the features. Because they use the remote control often more often, and are more technical than the ol older people. And the older people spend more money, Paul Krigger: Mm. Humberto Scott: and easily on a remote control. Howard Rosario: 'Kay. Humberto Scott: So we have to keep in mind to to focus not a lot not that much on the younger pep younger people, but also somewhat on the elderly people. And on my personal preferences, I don't have any mo more time to come with that, but like I said, L_C_D_ screen is easily to use because you have you can implement a lot of buttons in one remote with not that much buttons. And it should be easy to use. Especially the volume buttons, the channel buttes buttons and the number buttons to zap through the channels. And that is it. Howard Rosario: Okay. James Cornish: Okay, Paul Krigger: Oh right. James Cornish: thank you. Um, well thank you all, huh. I dunno uh did everyone receive an email with uh the new project requirements? Paul Krigger: No. James Cornish: No? Well, Paul Krigger: Res I did not. Howard Rosario: No. Paul Krigger: Perhaps the rest? James Cornish: then I think it's a good thing Humberto Scott: Ja, James Cornish: that I made a separate slide of them so you can all read them. Oh, well not in this presentation. Hmm. Should be in there. Well, I can tell you them uh from my laptop. Um teletext does has become outdated since the popularity Paul Krigger: Oh. James Cornish: of the internet. So that's uh the first thing we I think we should pay less attention to uh teletext. Uh the remote control should only be used for the television, otherwise the project becomes more complex, which endangers the time to market, and of course would make it more costly, I think. Um our current customers are within the age group of forty plus, and new product should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty, and you talked about that before. And uh a last point, but also very important, our corporate image should stay recognisable in our products, which means that our uh corporate colour and slogan must be implemented in the new design. So we have to keep that in mind. Um well uh according to our agenda it's then time to take a decision on the remote control functions. Paul Krigger: Mm. James Cornish: So, who has any idea about what should be on it, and what shouldn't? Paul Krigger: Well you said it should only Humberto Scott: Be television. Paul Krigger: uh work with one appliance? Or with one uh d che only the T_V_? James Cornish: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: Only be used Paul Krigger: And James Cornish: for television. Paul Krigger: the video also, or not uh? Humberto Scott: Only James Cornish: Well Humberto Scott: the James Cornish: it Humberto Scott: television. James Cornish: says only for television here, Paul Krigger: Oh. James Cornish: huh. Paul Krigger: Alright. Okay. James Cornish: Makes it a lot easier, huh? Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: So yeah, then you can yeah. Requirements, no? Functions. James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Paul Krigger: Then it should Howard Rosario: Yeah for Paul Krigger: have uh on, off, Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Standby Paul Krigger: and Humberto Scott: the Paul Krigger: uh Humberto Scott: basics Howard Rosario: options, yeah? Humberto Scott: then by a volume, channel, one till two zero Howard Rosario: Uh yeah. Humberto Scott: numbers on it, Paul Krigger: Yeah. And per Humberto Scott: oh teletext Paul Krigger: perhaps uh Humberto Scott: doesn't have to be? Paul Krigger: No. Humberto Scott: Um Paul Krigger: Well uh uh Humberto Scott: other functions. Paul Krigger: yes yes s Humberto Scott: Yeah Paul Krigger: sh A button Humberto Scott: I had Paul Krigger: where you can uh change from one number to two Howard Rosario: Two Paul Krigger: numbers. Howard Rosario: s two Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: two digits, Humberto Scott: yeah. Howard Rosario: oh Paul Krigger: Can Howard Rosario: okay. Paul Krigger: you Don't know Howard Rosario: Yeah Paul Krigger: if Howard Rosario: I Paul Krigger: that's Howard Rosario: understand Paul Krigger: got a name, Howard Rosario: what Humberto Scott: I Howard Rosario: you Humberto Scott: think Paul Krigger: but Howard Rosario: mean. Humberto Scott: it's I Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: think it's easy to implement a button with a s s what which especially do that, because some T_V_s, if you press the t one and then the two, Howard Rosario: It makes Humberto Scott: it Howard Rosario: it twelve, Humberto Scott: be between Howard Rosario: yeah. Humberto Scott: five secs it make twelve, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: and that's Howard Rosario: Indeed. Paul Krigger: S Howard Rosario: Okay. Humberto Scott: that's not relaxed Howard Rosario: Well, not Humberto Scott: to Howard Rosario: really Humberto Scott: user. Howard Rosario: And and there are some models that don't uh accommodate that function. So Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: d uh wh the Philip's television makes it possible in that indeed to uh press one and then two to Humberto Scott: So Howard Rosario: make Humberto Scott: that Howard Rosario: uh Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: the Humberto Scott: it easy Howard Rosario: uh tj Humberto Scott: and Howard Rosario: to reach Humberto Scott: fast. Howard Rosario: channel twelve. But Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: uh all the television makes uh use of those button Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: where you first press that button and then press two digits to uh Paul Krigger: Yeah, so you Howard Rosario: to get Paul Krigger: should have that one on. Howard Rosario: Uh yeah, think so. Paul Krigger: Mute misschien Humberto Scott: plus, or? Paul Krigger: also. Howard Rosario: Mm. James Cornish: Uh well new product should reach a market with customers that are younger than forty, and now Humberto Scott: Forties, James Cornish: we have Humberto Scott: okay James Cornish: current Humberto Scott: because James Cornish: customers uh of forty plus. Humberto Scott: because younger people as Uh younger people have now, sixteen till to twenty five age, are f eighty one percent interested in L_C_D_ screen. From twenty six to thirty five have sixty six percent, and thirty six to forty five, fifty five percent, so I think to um Because on most recog remote controls um the print plate will be broken how much, two years. You have to press h very hard Howard Rosario: Mm-hmm. Humberto Scott: to go to the James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Humberto Scott: next channel. With the L_C_D_ screen it's easier because you only have to wipe the screen to uh Howard Rosario: Yeah, we we Humberto Scott: for Howard Rosario: could Humberto Scott: fingerprint, Howard Rosario: yeah. Humberto Scott: and then you Howard Rosario: But Humberto Scott: can Howard Rosario: I Humberto Scott: use Howard Rosario: think Humberto Scott: it Howard Rosario: that Humberto Scott: again. Howard Rosario: uh that collides with our mission to make it very cheap. Because Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: L_C_D_ Humberto Scott: okay. Howard Rosario: screens are very expensive. Humberto Scott: Yeah but Howard Rosario: A touch Humberto Scott: a Howard Rosario: screen Humberto Scott: you don't Paul Krigger: An Humberto Scott: know Howard Rosario: uh probably uh even more. So, Humberto Scott: True. Howard Rosario: true, true. But uh Well um an L_C_D_ screen uh, how was the information? Humberto Scott: Yeah, it only says that this perce percentage like L_C_D_ screen. Because, yeah and it says that younger age between sixteen and forty five highly interesting features more critical. Howard Rosario: So Humberto Scott: And if Howard Rosario: perhaps Humberto Scott: the only f Howard Rosario: we should we should focus on that L_C_D_ screen. Humberto Scott: Yeah, because our target is sixteen to forty five. Paul Krigger: But, Howard Rosario: Yeah but uh will Paul Krigger: do you Howard Rosario: we not uh exceed our uh our Humberto Scott: Yeah you don't Howard Rosario: uh production Humberto Scott: know how much it costs. Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: Yeah, you don't know how much it costs, the L_C_D_ screen. Howard Rosario: Is it possible to find out, anyway? Humberto Scott: No, I don't have Howard Rosario: You Humberto Scott: any Howard Rosario: know? Humberto Scott: costs here, I only have percentages. Paul Krigger: But if you would do an L_C_D_ screen do we have don don't you have any buttons? Or because Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: if it only directs at the T_V_, then you only have uh I don't know what you want to Howard Rosario: No, an Paul Krigger: do Howard Rosario: L_C_D_ Paul Krigger: with Howard Rosario: screen's Paul Krigger: the L_C_D_ Howard Rosario: just Paul Krigger: screen. Howard Rosario: like uh like a drawn here. Um just uh displays several buttons, Paul Krigger: Yeah? Howard Rosario: for example um if you wanted the minimal uh use b uh buttons, such as channel and volume, you just h uh displays four buttons on the screen Paul Krigger: Oh right, Howard Rosario: and Paul Krigger: so you Howard Rosario: it's Paul Krigger: can Howard Rosario: possible to p uh press them down, Paul Krigger: Oh, Howard Rosario: just like a touch screen. Paul Krigger: yeah alright. So you can adjust which buttons you want on that Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: s Humberto Scott: if Paul Krigger: screen. Howard Rosario: Yeah, Humberto Scott: you Howard Rosario: we Humberto Scott: want Howard Rosario: can make Humberto Scott: to adjust, Howard Rosario: it possible Humberto Scott: like Howard Rosario: to do that, Humberto Scott: for Howard Rosario: yeah. Humberto Scott: example, adjust the audio settings, you press audio on the touchscreen and you get Howard Rosario: Yeah Humberto Scott: the buttons for Howard Rosario: yeah. Humberto Scott: audio settings, Paul Krigger: Yeah alright, oh right. Humberto Scott: so the other buttons are gone. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Yeah, yeah. James Cornish: So we're going for an L_C_D_ screen? Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: I Paul Krigger: Would Humberto Scott: think Paul Krigger: be yeah. Humberto Scott: it's the most Howard Rosario: That's Humberto Scott: easier Howard Rosario: my Humberto Scott: thing, Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: yeah. James Cornish: And hoping that when we produce a lot it won't be too expensive. Humberto Scott: No. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: Well we had twelve fifty, I guess, Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: for uh Howard Rosario: Twelve Paul Krigger: production? Howard Rosario: fifty. Paul Krigger: Yeah. I dunno how expensive an Howard Rosario: Um. Paul Krigger: L_C_D_ screen is. Any guesses? Howard Rosario: Well I suppose wi if the mar if our um if the i if the young people are interested in L_C_D_ screens, we should Humberto Scott: Highly. Howard Rosario: make 'em. James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Howard Rosario: And Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: if that is Paul Krigger: But Howard Rosario: our d uh market share to uh and our goal to uh deliver those uh remote Paul Krigger: But Howard Rosario: controls Paul Krigger: he also said that we should not only focus on the younger people, but also on the older, Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: and will Humberto Scott: but Paul Krigger: they use it if it only has an Humberto Scott: Um, Paul Krigger: L_C_D_ screen? Humberto Scott: s forty six to forty five, thirty three percent, and sixty fifty six to sixty five twelve percent. But Paul Krigger: Oh, so Humberto Scott: our Paul Krigger: still a little Humberto Scott: our Paul Krigger: bit people Humberto Scott: our what's it, project requirements are the new products should be reached for new Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: markets, to customers that are Paul Krigger: Yeah Humberto Scott: younger Paul Krigger: that's Humberto Scott: than forty. Paul Krigger: right. But you don't want to alienate the other uh Humberto Scott: No, that not now, but, so Paul Krigger: But if they also buy it then it's alright. I guess. Humberto Scott: Yeah, but market share fro for for Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: forty years and younger is higher than that of sixty five Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: and younger. Paul Krigger: Alright. James Cornish: Okay, so Paul Krigger: An James Cornish: L_C_D_ it is? Paul Krigger: Yes. Howard Rosario: Mm. James Cornish: Okay. Howard Rosario: It's treasure. James Cornish: And Howard Rosario: I James Cornish: what Howard Rosario: hope James Cornish: else? Howard Rosario: we uh h and Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: let's Humberto Scott: i Howard Rosario: hope to Humberto Scott: i if Howard Rosario: reach Humberto Scott: it Howard Rosario: those uh Humberto Scott: Yeah, if it costs Howard Rosario: those sales. Humberto Scott: gets too much, too expensive, then yeah, we should be sticking to rubber buttons. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Yeah, can you um uh s I think that that they will send you some information about uh the cost of L_C_D_ uh Humberto Scott: N Howard Rosario: screens. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: nothing, no costs at all. Howard Rosario: Uh Paul Krigger: But Howard Rosario: so if Paul Krigger: perhaps Howard Rosario: you Paul Krigger: later, Howard Rosario: uh Yeah, Paul Krigger: so uh Howard Rosario: so if you uh you receive an email about that, uh can you post it in the Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: or shouldn't Humberto Scott: in Howard Rosario: we post that in uh our projects mail uh folder. Humberto Scott: I think Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: that should yeah I think we all get the costs of everything. Paul Krigger: I Howard Rosario: Because you are Paul Krigger: don't Howard Rosario: the the Marketing uh Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Expert. Humberto Scott: okay, I'll I'll Howard Rosario: I Humberto Scott: post Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: it. Paul Krigger: Well perhaps we should have a backup plan that we would use buttons Howard Rosario: Yeah sure, Paul Krigger: if it's Howard Rosario: sure. Paul Krigger: uh Humberto Scott: Yeah. James Cornish: Yeah, Paul Krigger: too expensive. James Cornish: okay. But for now Humberto Scott: Okay, James Cornish: it's L_C_D_. Humberto Scott: L_C_D_, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: yeah. James Cornish: Okay. Humberto Scott: Then you have the seventy five percent of users find it r ugly. Paul Krigger: The L_C_D_? Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: Oh Humberto Scott: and Paul Krigger: that's Humberto Scott: eighty Paul Krigger: a Humberto Scott: percent Paul Krigger: bit of a problem. Humberto Scott: of the users would spend more money with a when a remote would look fancy. Paul Krigger: Oh, that's Howard Rosario: Mm. Paul Krigger: a bit of a problem. Humberto Scott: Tha i l i it'll look fancy with Howard Rosario: It's Humberto Scott: L_C_D_ Howard Rosario: looks fancy Humberto Scott: screen. Howard Rosario: one yeah, of L_C_D_ Paul Krigger: Yeah, but Howard Rosario: screen. Paul Krigger: they Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: don't they James Cornish: Yeah. Paul Krigger: don't like it. They think it's ugly. When it has an L_C_D_ Humberto Scott: Yeah, just Paul Krigger: screen. Humberto Scott: a the plain remotes, not not specific L_C_D_ remotes. Paul Krigger: Oh, alright, I thought that you said that. Humberto Scott: So James Cornish: Yeah, and maybe you can make something fancy out of an L_C_D_ remote, Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: because it's new, Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. James Cornish: as far as I know. Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Mm yeah. Humberto Scott: of course. And Howard Rosario: And Humberto Scott: then Howard Rosario: then Humberto Scott: you have Howard Rosario: not Humberto Scott: the other Howard Rosario: yeah. Humberto Scott: thing, that seventy five percent zap a lot, but that's Howard Rosario: Um. Humberto Scott: not a f question with the L_C_D_ screen. Only thing you have to do is wipe the screen off once each time, Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: to get all the fingerprints off it. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Mm. Okay? James Cornish: Okay, what else does our remote need? Humberto Scott: Um Paul Krigger: A mute button. James Cornish: Mute button. Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. Paul Krigger: I think. Humberto Scott: The most important Paul Krigger: And Humberto Scott: things on a f on an on an uh remote control are channel selection, volume con selection, Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: and power s power usage. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: And a teletext, but that Paul Krigger: But Humberto Scott: is not of the question. Other things are Paul Krigger: you put a button of Humberto Scott: Sorry? Paul Krigger: for teletext on the for the people who want to use it? Humberto Scott: Yeah, it Paul Krigger: Remembering Humberto Scott: could be. Paul Krigger: we have got a big remote Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: that you have to fill. James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and we could make an a a separate menu on the L_C_D_ Humberto Scott: Yeah, teletext. James Cornish: uh Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: screen Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: for teletext. Howard Rosario: And there's Humberto Scott: And Howard Rosario: also Humberto Scott: other Howard Rosario: a Humberto Scott: other less important things are screen settings, audio settings, and channel settings, Paul Krigger: Yeah, they Humberto Scott: but Paul Krigger: are less important, but I think they should Humberto Scott: Less important. Paul Krigger: be there, Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: or not? Humberto Scott: should be there, but not Howard Rosario: A sh but in a sub sub-menu Humberto Scott: press Howard Rosario: or Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: something Humberto Scott: sub-menu, Howard Rosario: like that. Humberto Scott: yeah. Howard Rosario: Uh I think it's also important to uh make it possible to um how do you call it in English, uh, to not use batteries, and use ac uh bat uh batteries to uh James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Paul Krigger: Like with Howard Rosario: to be Paul Krigger: a with Howard Rosario: yeah Paul Krigger: a mouse, you Howard Rosario: yeah sure. Paul Krigger: have not, Howard Rosario: Indeed. Paul Krigger: yeah. Howard Rosario: So uh you can mount uh the the the uh Humberto Scott: Yeah, in a breath it's Howard Rosario: uh the remote control to um James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Humberto Scott: Charted. Paul Krigger: We should think Howard Rosario: to refill Paul Krigger: of the twelve fifty Howard Rosario: the Paul Krigger: we have but Humberto Scott: Yeah, but we don't Paul Krigger: I Humberto Scott: we Paul Krigger: don't Humberto Scott: don't Paul Krigger: know Humberto Scott: have Paul Krigger: how Humberto Scott: any Paul Krigger: much Humberto Scott: costs Paul Krigger: that's Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: going Humberto Scott: now, so Paul Krigger: to uh Howard Rosario: Okay, Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: because i uh when you get an L_C_D_ screen, you run it on batteries, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: the batteries will be uh empty Humberto Scott: Yeah Howard Rosario: very Humberto Scott: e Howard Rosario: soon, Humberto Scott: e power Howard Rosario: very Humberto Scott: supply Howard Rosario: fast. Humberto Scott: is one of Paul Krigger: You Humberto Scott: the Paul Krigger: should Humberto Scott: most important things. Paul Krigger: Perhaps you should be able to Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: to switch the control off. If you have an L_C_D_ screen that's burns all the time I dunno. Howard Rosario: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Paul Krigger: You shouldn't on and off because that's ver extra, that you have t first you have to turn the remote on, and then you can uh James Cornish: Mm-hmm. Howard Rosario: Uh Paul Krigger: I don't Humberto Scott: Yeah, I Paul Krigger: know. Humberto Scott: think it's it's not that easy because I don't think people will like it who who uh that you have to turn it on Paul Krigger: Nee Humberto Scott: first Paul Krigger: that's Humberto Scott: and then Paul Krigger: that's Humberto Scott: use it, so Paul Krigger: uh yeah. Humberto Scott: I think it's better when th the T_V_ shuts down, the remote shuts down. Paul Krigger: But Howard Rosario: And Paul Krigger: then you Howard Rosario: go Paul Krigger: can't Howard Rosario: to standby mode when you don't use Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: it, so that Paul Krigger: Yeah yeah au automac matically, that it Howard Rosario: Yeah, automatically. Paul Krigger: yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: After two Humberto Scott: After Howard Rosario: minutes Humberto Scott: two Howard Rosario: or three Humberto Scott: minutes, yeah Howard Rosario: minutes, Humberto Scott: two three Howard Rosario: something Humberto Scott: minutes, Howard Rosario: like Humberto Scott: yeah. Howard Rosario: that. Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: Yeah. And maybe a low battery indicator? Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: On the screen. Howard Rosario: Sure. Humberto Scott: Yeah. And then b that uh before an hour when its get again gets empty. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Then you have plenty of time to recharge it, of put Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: it in a recharger. Charger. James Cornish: So we are going for the for the recharger. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah, James Cornish: Okay. Humberto Scott: if it's. Uh. Paul Krigger: If it's sensible. Humberto Scott: Yeah, because when you're watching T_V_, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: you're zapping and you have to put it in a recharger, Paul Krigger: Yeah, Humberto Scott: and I don't Paul Krigger: b when Howard Rosario: No, Humberto Scott: think Paul Krigger: the Humberto Scott: it Paul Krigger: batteries Howard Rosario: when you Paul Krigger: are low Howard Rosario: when you're done with s uh w uh Humberto Scott: Yeah, okay, but then we Howard Rosario: watching Humberto Scott: have to be Howard Rosario: your Humberto Scott: sure Howard Rosario: television, Humberto Scott: that the Howard Rosario: you Humberto Scott: the Howard Rosario: have Humberto Scott: the Howard Rosario: to put Humberto Scott: the batteries Howard Rosario: it Humberto Scott: go hours, six hours, five, Howard Rosario: Yeah sure, Humberto Scott: six hours, Paul Krigger: But you'll Howard Rosario: of course. Humberto Scott: then. Paul Krigger: also forget to put it in, Humberto Scott: Yeah, then Paul Krigger: because Howard Rosario: Yeah, Humberto Scott: you have Paul Krigger: you Howard Rosario: but Humberto Scott: a problem. Paul Krigger: throw it on the couch and you don't remember. Howard Rosario: But you also forget to buy batteries, Paul Krigger: Yeah. That's Howard Rosario: and Paul Krigger: right. Howard Rosario: then you can you can't use it, so Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: I Humberto Scott: Or we have to be sure that the batteries last couple of days when they're recharged. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: So. Paul Krigger: Well I think the batteries should should w should work a lot longer than a couple of days, Humberto Scott: Yeah because Paul Krigger: or not? Humberto Scott: you have b but Paul Krigger: 'Cause Humberto Scott: you have L_C_D_ screen. Paul Krigger: Yeah, that's right, Humberto Scott: High power Paul Krigger: but Humberto Scott: usage. Howard Rosario: High power user cell, i uh it should be uh a standard move to to put your remote control in the charger when you're done Humberto Scott: Yes. Howard Rosario: watching television, that's also a a a great advantage because you can't lose it anymore. Because you are Humberto Scott: True. Howard Rosario: obliged to uh put it in the charger Humberto Scott: Yeah. Yeah. Howard Rosario: and not Humberto Scott: True. Howard Rosario: to uh leave it in a couch uh between some cushions. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Right. Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Okay. Humberto Scott: you made a point there. Paul Krigger: But James Cornish: Yeah, Paul Krigger: then you also James Cornish: also. Paul Krigger: have to s have somewhere where you can put a remo recharger near your couch because otherwise you have to Humberto Scott: Yeah, otherwise Paul Krigger: walk Humberto Scott: all Paul Krigger: a Humberto Scott: your Paul Krigger: long Humberto Scott: yeah. Paul Krigger: way when you twoft want to turn on the T_V_. Humberto Scott: Just a small device. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Yeah it Humberto Scott: Plug Paul Krigger: I think Howard Rosario: hasn't Humberto Scott: it in, Howard Rosario: It Paul Krigger: everything Howard Rosario: doesn't Humberto Scott: that's Howard Rosario: have Humberto Scott: it. Paul Krigger: has Howard Rosario: to be big. Paul Krigger: it Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: for Humberto Scott: like a Paul Krigger: and Humberto Scott: like Paul Krigger: I Humberto Scott: telephone Paul Krigger: guess. Humberto Scott: charger or something. Howard Rosario: Yeah just just a cable, or Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: a even a a a a a charger where you can mount it on. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Something like that, just u Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Okay. Paul Krigger: Alright. James Cornish: Okay, well Humberto Scott: It has to be James Cornish: I've Humberto Scott: easy to use also, or James Cornish: Yeah, Humberto Scott: things. James Cornish: you have some more points. Humberto Scott: Uh market share, speaker re speech recognition. I think. Howard Rosario: Functional designs uh for the elderly uh you could make it possible to enlarge the screen, so make Humberto Scott: Also. Howard Rosario: it possible to not uh display uh a button at ten points uh, Humberto Scott: Well I Howard Rosario: or Humberto Scott: think that this should be standard. Large Howard Rosario: Yeah but it is Humberto Scott: button Howard Rosario: uh one Humberto Scott: large Howard Rosario: of the functions Humberto Scott: buttons. Howard Rosario: you have to uh specify. Humberto Scott: Yeah? Okay. Howard Rosario: Because we can look at uh uh perhaps uh forty buttons at a screen, but the elderly only look at two buttons. Okay. James Cornish: And you said something about speech recognition? Humberto Scott: Yeah, it Howard Rosario: Speech Humberto Scott: says also Howard Rosario: recognition? Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Hello. Twelve Euro twelve Paul Krigger: Yeah, Humberto Scott: Twelve. Paul Krigger: twelve Howard Rosario: Euro Paul Krigger: fifty, Howard Rosario: fifty. Paul Krigger: twelve fifty. Humberto Scott: That's an also ninety one percent sixteen to twenty five, twenty six to thirty five years, seventy six percent, and thirty six to forty five, thirty five percent. Paul Krigger: So it's pretty Howard Rosario: Well, Paul Krigger: big. Howard Rosario: spread Humberto Scott: But Howard Rosario: it by a Humberto Scott: then Howard Rosario: big Humberto Scott: I Howard Rosario: market. Humberto Scott: I I James Cornish: Even bigger than for L_C_D_. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: W I know let's do a speech. Howard Rosario: Well let's leave out all the remote controls and just put a Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: microphone Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: on top Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: of the television to Humberto Scott: Ninety. Twenty five. Paul Krigger: You can clap Howard Rosario: Yeah Paul Krigger: or something. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: channel. Howard Rosario: Turn volume up. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Hey, that that's an idea. Paul Krigger: Now you shouldn't say the wrong thing, I dunno. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Okay, well that should it has to be remote control, not Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: twelve. Paul Krigger: But they want to talk into the remo remote Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: control, Howard Rosario: Sure Paul Krigger: or Howard Rosario: why Paul Krigger: something, Howard Rosario: not Paul Krigger: or? Humberto Scott: Is Howard Rosario: why Humberto Scott: this Howard Rosario: not Humberto Scott: only would you would you pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. It's Howard Rosario: Yeah, Humberto Scott: the only thing it says. Howard Rosario: mm. Paul Krigger: Oh, but do we want to implement that, or? Humberto Scott: I think an L_C_D_ screen should be suf sufficient. Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: But when you look at the percentages Humberto Scott: Yeah, it says a lot, but Howard Rosario: Perhaps the options James Cornish: Speech Howard Rosario: should James Cornish: recognition Howard Rosario: be uh James Cornish: scores even higher, huh? Howard Rosario: Why not? James Cornish: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Why not? James Cornish: well, maybe because of the cost, but uh Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: nobody knows uh how Howard Rosario: Let's James Cornish: much Howard Rosario: hope uh James Cornish: uh Paul Krigger: I Humberto Scott: No Paul Krigger: know Howard Rosario: to have Humberto Scott: I James Cornish: it Humberto Scott: think Howard Rosario: some Humberto Scott: I James Cornish: will Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: think James Cornish: cost Humberto Scott: it's Howard Rosario: d Humberto Scott: better to have James Cornish: uh. Humberto Scott: L_ L_C_D_ screen, because in the area of tw thirty six to forty five, we have about thirty percent of the market share in in our hands, and fifty five of those people want L_C_D_ screen and thirty five want speech recognition. So I think it's better to keep it with L_C_D_ screen. Paul Krigger: Mm. James Cornish: But would it be useful to imple implement both? Humberto Scott: Yeah, James Cornish: On one remote? Humberto Scott: if the Paul Krigger: Well Humberto Scott: costs James Cornish: Or Humberto Scott: al allow it. James Cornish: Yeah, Paul Krigger: I James Cornish: I Paul Krigger: don't James Cornish: dunno. Paul Krigger: know if that can be done with the cost of twelve fifty. Humberto Scott: Nee. Paul Krigger: With that uh Humberto Scott: If it should be done, if it could be done, Paul Krigger: Yeah, Howard Rosario: We Humberto Scott: I Howard Rosario: should Humberto Scott: won't Howard Rosario: do Humberto Scott: matter. Howard Rosario: it. Paul Krigger: but how Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: would Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: you Howard Rosario: Sure. Paul Krigger: like to implement that, that you say volume up, and then it goes Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: up, Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: or? Uh. Howard Rosario: Certain systems already exist, I think. Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. Paul Krigger: Then you also have to have different languages if we go international. Then uh Humberto Scott: True. Paul Krigger: it's y Howard Rosario: True, Paul Krigger: it's Howard Rosario: yeah. Paul Krigger: yours to do Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: a Humberto Scott: True. Paul Krigger: French and Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: Dutch and English and Humberto Scott: But that should Howard Rosario: This should be Humberto Scott: also Howard Rosario: uh accommodated Humberto Scott: be with f Howard Rosario: with some software, Humberto Scott: should be also with L_C_D_ Howard Rosario: uh, Humberto Scott: screen. Howard Rosario: uh. Yeah. Humberto Scott: Because then I think in Chinese Paul Krigger: Yeah, Humberto Scott: is Paul Krigger: that's Humberto Scott: different Paul Krigger: right. Humberto Scott: written, volume is different written than um Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Swahili Howard Rosario: Right. Humberto Scott: or something. Howard Rosario: Swahili. Paul Krigger: Yeah you Howard Rosario: Swahili. Paul Krigger: can use icons for the Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Ja, well possible. Paul Krigger: a speaker and uh Howard Rosario: Indeed. Paul Krigger: But if that's better Humberto Scott: Yeah, yeah Paul Krigger: than Humberto Scott: yeah Paul Krigger: language Humberto Scott: yeah. Paul Krigger: for Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: the for the remote. Howard Rosario: So we want to uh yeah it's international Paul Krigger: Then it's Howard Rosario: uh Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: okay. Okay. Humberto Scott: 'Kay, what else? James Cornish: So, no speech recognition? Or Paul Krigger: Well, if it could be done, we Humberto Scott: Yeah, we Howard Rosario: Y Humberto Scott: have Howard Rosario: it Humberto Scott: to Howard Rosario: should Humberto Scott: keep Howard Rosario: be done. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: If it could be done, should be done. Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: Yeah, and then we have different languages. Paul Krigger: Yeah, that should be uh Howard Rosario: That's not so difficult Paul Krigger: anything matters. Howard Rosario: at all, James Cornish: Okay, Howard Rosario: because James Cornish: just make Howard Rosario: I James Cornish: a separate Howard Rosario: already James Cornish: remote Howard Rosario: use James Cornish: for Howard Rosario: on several James Cornish: each uh Howard Rosario: voice operated systems, and they are all possible to uh not all, but Paul Krigger: Well, you Humberto Scott: I think Paul Krigger: sh Humberto Scott: it's Paul Krigger: you Humberto Scott: difficult. Paul Krigger: should to adjust the thing. Humberto Scott: Every language of dialects Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: I think it's very differen difficult. Paul Krigger: And you have to speak the so that it Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: can understand. Humberto Scott: I think it can't be implemented, but maybe Paul Krigger: You could use that n as an option, Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: if you Humberto Scott: 's Paul Krigger: have Humberto Scott: an option, yes. Paul Krigger: money left, or something. Howard Rosario: Yeah, sure, indeed. Humberto Scott: Fifty Euro cents. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Let's do speech. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: For speech recognition. James Cornish: Okay, so we only do this when we have enough money left. Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: Okay. Well I've written down an an on or off button, volume selection, channel selection, uh the digits from one to zero, huh. Um or from zero to nine. Uh a digits button to switch uh between one and two digits, mute button, a separate menu for teletext, a battery indicator. Um we're going to use a docking station and uh probably L_C_D_ and if there's enough money, speech recognition. Paul Krigger: Mm. James Cornish: And uh the possibility to uh enlarge buttons or to have large buttons Humberto Scott: Mm, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: yes. Paul Krigger: I James Cornish: in Paul Krigger: With James Cornish: general. Paul Krigger: uh teletext if it wasn't ver very important, Humberto Scott: No, Paul Krigger: it was Humberto Scott: but Paul Krigger: but You also now have colours. I don't know if we should implement that. Humberto Scott: Curved? Paul Krigger: Yeah, when you press the red button, you go to page one hundred two, and when you press the Howard Rosario: Uh yeah. Paul Krigger: I don't know if we should Humberto Scott: Um. Paul Krigger: implement that, because it says that teletext not really Howard Rosario: S Paul Krigger: important, Howard Rosario: Shortcuts. Paul Krigger: but Howard Rosario: Uh. Paul Krigger: yeah, the shortcut, Humberto Scott: I Paul Krigger: and Humberto Scott: think Paul Krigger: you can't Humberto Scott: we should Paul Krigger: go Humberto Scott: we Paul Krigger: to Humberto Scott: could Paul Krigger: sport. Humberto Scott: that we could also implement a audio settings, screen settings and channel settings, but as sub-menus. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: D Mainly if you turn the uh remote control on, you have to u you have to see from one till zero, channel and volume. And if you want to use teletext screen or audio, then you can Howard Rosario: Sh Humberto Scott: press it. Howard Rosario: Yeah, Humberto Scott: It Howard Rosario: just Humberto Scott: should be Howard Rosario: just Humberto Scott: available Howard Rosario: sub-menu. Humberto Scott: but not Howard Rosario: Yeah. Paul Krigger: 'Cause Howard Rosario: Not Paul Krigger: it should Howard Rosario: directly Humberto Scott: not Paul Krigger: be there. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: uh available. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Okay. James Cornish: Okay, too much teletext support, but in a separate menu, and Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Mm. Paul Krigger: So actually it is there but it's Humberto Scott: Yeah, but Paul Krigger: just Humberto Scott: s Paul Krigger: not r ready Howard Rosario: Directly Paul Krigger: there. Howard Rosario: available. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: So does it confuse uh the Paul Krigger: You'll Howard Rosario: user? Paul Krigger: have to search Humberto Scott: They'd Paul Krigger: for Humberto Scott: have Paul Krigger: it. Humberto Scott: to be easy Howard Rosario: Uh. Humberto Scott: to use. Howard Rosario: I'll search um. If you want to use teletext, you can push the teletext Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: button and then the options uh become available. Paul Krigger: Yeah, that's a Humberto Scott: The sign of it. James Cornish: Okay, but no more buttons or functions, or? Humberto Scott: Uh, Howard Rosario: No. Paul Krigger: I guess Humberto Scott: no. Paul Krigger: not. Humberto Scott: What else can you do with Paul Krigger: We've Humberto Scott: a Paul Krigger: got Humberto Scott: television? Paul Krigger: anon James Cornish: Aren't we forgetting something Paul Krigger: Have got got James Cornish: very Paul Krigger: two James Cornish: important? Paul Krigger: examples here, but I don't think there's anything Humberto Scott: Uh Paul Krigger: we're missing. Humberto Scott: play, pause, doesn't n need to be Paul Krigger: Well, we Humberto Scott: there. Paul Krigger: don't have the video orders Humberto Scott: Yes, so this is your presentation. We could check the other remote controls with Paul Krigger: Yeah, you Humberto Scott: technical Paul Krigger: could look Humberto Scott: functions. Paul Krigger: here all the the Humberto Scott: Which ones were yours? Paul Krigger: Uh th th th th I don't know, technical Humberto Scott: Techni Paul Krigger: functions. They're a bit small, you can we should stretch them, because James Cornish: Ping. Humberto Scott: Ja ja ja ja ja. Technical functions. Yeah okay. Paul Krigger: I guess we've got them all. Humberto Scott: Uh I think I go to have volume, mute but I Yeah. Very slow. Yeah, the zoom buttons. Paul Krigger: And for a T_V_? Humberto Scott: Yeah, b wide Paul Krigger: Can you zoom Humberto Scott: screen, Paul Krigger: in a T_V_? Humberto Scott: high screen, different Paul Krigger: Or Humberto Scott: things Paul Krigger: that Humberto Scott: you Paul Krigger: you Humberto Scott: have, Paul Krigger: can put 'em on uh on Humberto Scott: yeah different Paul Krigger: on wide Humberto Scott: uh Paul Krigger: and Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: yeah. But that should also be a sub then, a sub uh menu Howard Rosario: Menu. Humberto Scott: Yeah Paul Krigger: thing. Humberto Scott: it should be available, but then in separate screen settings or something. Paul Krigger: Yeah, Howard Rosario: Mm. Paul Krigger: so we should also implement se screen settings. Humberto Scott: Yeah, screen settings, audio settings, Paul Krigger: Oh Humberto Scott: teletext Paul Krigger: right. Humberto Scott: settings you have. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Channel settings. Paul Krigger: Yeah, so you can program Humberto Scott: So those Paul Krigger: the Humberto Scott: four, and of course the main. Paul Krigger: Yeah, so the first you see the main, and the other ones you can Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: uh go Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: to uh Humberto Scott: Like tap screens or something Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: or, I dunno. Paul Krigger: I Humberto Scott: Something Paul Krigger: hope we can do this. Howard Rosario: There are a Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: lot of options Humberto Scott: if Howard Rosario: depending Humberto Scott: uh Howard Rosario: uh on what kind of television you got. 'Cause if you don't got a wide screen television you don't need the uh Humberto Scott: No, you don't Howard Rosario: the screen Humberto Scott: yu a Howard Rosario: settings Humberto Scott: no you then Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: you Howard Rosario: for Humberto Scott: don't no ni Howard Rosario: uh Humberto Scott: don't then you don't use it. Howard Rosario: Yeah and if the television does not support such uh operations Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. Paul Krigger: We don't have to use that top. Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: So you leave it alone. Howard Rosario: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Or it could be possible to have a a standard version of the remote, Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: an expanded version. Paul Krigger: And do we want them in different colours, Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: or And Humberto Scott: Colours. Paul Krigger: and the buttons, should they have Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: colours? Howard Rosario: Colours I think the main colour of the Paul Krigger: Oh but we Howard Rosario: remote Paul Krigger: don't have Howard Rosario: control Paul Krigger: any buttons. Howard Rosario: is uh the colour of the L_C_D_ screen. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: I James Cornish: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Because Humberto Scott: Yeah, Howard Rosario: we don't Humberto Scott: then Howard Rosario: want Humberto Scott: defines Howard Rosario: a lot Humberto Scott: itself. Howard Rosario: a devi yeah Humberto Scott: Because Howard Rosario: a device Humberto Scott: uh Howard Rosario: self s g Humberto Scott: how many percent? Eighty percent? Paul Krigger: They think it's ugly, Humberto Scott: Would spend Paul Krigger: right? Humberto Scott: more money if it looks fancy. Howard Rosario: Okay, so use uh very uh lot of peo Paul Krigger: Perhaps you can uh make adjustable fronts, like with the telephones. Howard Rosario: Adjust with phones, yes Paul Krigger: You can uh But Howard Rosario: Okay. Paul Krigger: I Howard Rosario: Twelve Paul Krigger: don't Howard Rosario: Euro fifty. Paul Krigger: think that uh Howard Rosario: Well, make it available in different colours, you mean? Sure. Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: Red, white, blue, black. Humberto Scott: Rasta James Cornish: And a see-through Humberto Scott: colours. Howard Rosario: Grey. James Cornish: uh Howard Rosario: Yeah Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: sea view, Humberto Scott: Yeah, see Howard Rosario: yes, Humberto Scott: through version. Howard Rosario: Simpson's versions and Humberto Scott: Yeah. If you press a button, it turns green. Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: Okay, Howard Rosario: Leave. Paul Krigger: A James Cornish: well Paul Krigger: disco version. James Cornish: that's the Paul Krigger: Five minutes? James Cornish: signal for las final five minutes. Um so I have uh the things I just read. Um then we have uh separate menus for teletext, screen settings, audio settings, and Howard Rosario: Yeah. James Cornish: what else? Humberto Scott: Channel settings? Paul Krigger: Oh yeah, right. James Cornish: Channel Paul Krigger: So you James Cornish: settings. Paul Krigger: can program the T_V_. Humberto Scott: Yeah. James Cornish: Okay. Humberto Scott: Mm. Paul Krigger: Perhaps you should you'd throw them on on in one pile. So, options, and then you sub them. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Paul Krigger: Otherwise Humberto Scott: Could Paul Krigger: you Humberto Scott: be possible. Paul Krigger: have all those teletext, perhaps teletext Howard Rosario: Mm. Paul Krigger: not, but Humberto Scott: Or like uh you James Cornish: No, Humberto Scott: have James Cornish: we Humberto Scott: a menu James Cornish: said teletext Humberto Scott: button, you James Cornish: also Humberto Scott: press James Cornish: a separate menu. Humberto Scott: Yeah, or Paul Krigger: Yeah, Humberto Scott: otherwise Paul Krigger: but I Humberto Scott: you have a menu button, press menu then you have uh Paul Krigger: Yeah. Humberto Scott: main uh menu search uh all the all the settings. Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: Okay, Paul Krigger: But James Cornish: but we can work that out Humberto Scott: Yeah, James Cornish: later, Humberto Scott: no problem. James Cornish: I guess. So Humberto Scott: Yep. James Cornish: we're having a a general menu with the most used functions, uh teletext, screen settings, audio settings, channel settings, and maybe there are options for the remote itself? Like Paul Krigger: I don't James Cornish: uh Paul Krigger: know. James Cornish: large icons or small icons and Humberto Scott: Um, James Cornish: I don't know what Howard Rosario: No. James Cornish: else, but Humberto Scott: I think b because we don't have a lot of buttons on the one screen, I Paul Krigger: Or Humberto Scott: think Paul Krigger: do we Humberto Scott: the Paul Krigger: have Humberto Scott: buttons Paul Krigger: any buttons? Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: On the Humberto Scott: but Paul Krigger: remote. Humberto Scott: but or Paul Krigger: Which Humberto Scott: like Paul Krigger: one? Humberto Scott: you have you only have channel button or volume button. Those buttons Paul Krigger: But Humberto Scott: you James Cornish: Yeah, Humberto Scott: can Paul Krigger: that's James Cornish: but Paul Krigger: also James Cornish: on Humberto Scott: you James Cornish: the Humberto Scott: can James Cornish: L_C_D_, Paul Krigger: in the L_C_D_, James Cornish: huh? Paul Krigger: right? Humberto Scott: Yeah. James Cornish: Right, yeah, okay. Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: So we don't Humberto Scott: th Paul Krigger: have any normal buttons Humberto Scott: No, no Paul Krigger: that Humberto Scott: normal Paul Krigger: uh No, Humberto Scott: buttons, Paul Krigger: alright. Humberto Scott: yeah. Maybe only the on and o Paul Krigger: Yet Humberto Scott: on Paul Krigger: on Humberto Scott: and off Paul Krigger: and off Humberto Scott: button. Paul Krigger: is James Cornish: But Paul Krigger: p is James Cornish: we don't Paul Krigger: perhaps Howard Rosario: Uh Humberto Scott: But James Cornish: need Howard Rosario: not Humberto Scott: I don't James Cornish: a special Howard Rosario: button Paul Krigger: you kno Humberto Scott: think James Cornish: we don't need a special options menu for the remote itself. Humberto Scott: Mm, Paul Krigger: No, Humberto Scott: no. Paul Krigger: no. James Cornish: Okay. Paul Krigger: Oh well, you should be able to set which T_V_ you have. If you Howard Rosario: Yeah Paul Krigger: have Howard Rosario: sure, of Paul Krigger: if Howard Rosario: course Paul Krigger: you Howard Rosario: you need Paul Krigger: have uh Howard Rosario: uh a settings button, uh or a settings option for the remote control. Paul Krigger: Yeah. But isn't idea to use uh uh what you said, uh normal on and off button for the T_V_, Humberto Scott: No no Paul Krigger: that Humberto Scott: no, Paul Krigger: you Humberto Scott: because Paul Krigger: don't have Humberto Scott: we Paul Krigger: to Humberto Scott: we Paul Krigger: use a Humberto Scott: discussed that you could charge it, otherwise is it it jumps to stand-by mode Paul Krigger: Yeah Humberto Scott: automatically. Paul Krigger: but but not for the remote but for the T_V_, that Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: you Humberto Scott: but Paul Krigger: use Humberto Scott: a T_V_ of course, th that's the I think that's a best thing is that to implement that one in the menu with the volume and channel. Paul Krigger: But a not as normal button, Humberto Scott: No. Paul Krigger: in the L_C_D_, yeah. James Cornish: Well maybe there should be a separate button apart from the L_C_D_, because you can't turn it on when the L_C_D_ is off. So how do you turn the thing on? There has to be a Paul Krigger: No you just James Cornish: on button Paul Krigger: tap James Cornish: on the remote, Paul Krigger: I Humberto Scott: Yeah, Paul Krigger: think. Humberto Scott: you Howard Rosario: Just Humberto Scott: tap. Howard Rosario: tap James Cornish: huh? Howard Rosario: it. Humberto Scott: Touch James Cornish: Tap Humberto Scott: screen, James Cornish: the thing. Okay. Humberto Scott: yeah then it's turn James Cornish: And then Humberto Scott: turn off, James Cornish: the television Humberto Scott: turn on. James Cornish: is on also, or just the remote? Humberto Scott: No, just the remote. A television James Cornish: Sure. Paul Krigger: But Humberto Scott: don't have to be on, that one you can Howard Rosario: Yeah, it Humberto Scott: press Howard Rosario: should Humberto Scott: on, Howard Rosario: be in standby mode, Humberto Scott: yeah stand-by, Howard Rosario: but Humberto Scott: then press on remote, press on and then T_V_ should be available. Paul Krigger: Yeah a yeah. Humberto Scott: Or not. Paul Krigger: I don't know whether it's handy to have a n a normal on button, a r just uh Humberto Scott: Separate. Paul Krigger: rubber uh for for T_V_, so you can turn it on and then you can choose the channel. Otherwise you I don't know whether or not that's Howard Rosario: A A A normal button Paul Krigger: Yeah, Howard Rosario: on the remote control, Paul Krigger: yeah. Howard Rosario: or norm? Paul Krigger: To turn it on. Of or you should put it in the L_C_D_ screen. Howard Rosario: Yeah, because uh when you touch the L_C_D_ screen when it is in standby mode, it should pop on. Paul Krigger: Yeah, I have, yeah. James Cornish: Okay, Howard Rosario: Wh uh why James Cornish: well Howard Rosario: would it be a a need to have a normal button? Paul Krigger: Well I I guess if you use the L_C_D_ screen, you first have to search where is the on button, then you uh you you then turn it, and then the T_V_ goes on. But if you have a normal on button on the on the remote, then you do the on, and then you search the channel which you want. Humberto Scott: Yeah, but I think the re the remote control, if you press tap the screen, it always should jump to the screen which has the volume button, channel Howard Rosario: Mm. Humberto Scott: button, and of course of also the on and off button. Paul Krigger: Oh right. Howard Rosario: I think it looks a lot more fancy if Paul Krigger: Yeah, Howard Rosario: you use Paul Krigger: I think Howard Rosario: uh Paul Krigger: so too. Howard Rosario: if Paul Krigger: Otherwise Howard Rosario: you don't have any Paul Krigger: y Howard Rosario: buttons Paul Krigger: wet e k Howard Rosario: on Paul Krigger: Yeah. Howard Rosario: the s on James Cornish: Yeah. Humberto Scott: Yeah. Howard Rosario: on remote control. James Cornish: So actually we're going to create a a button-less uh Paul Krigger: Yeah. James Cornish: remote. No buttons at all. Okay, well that's might be a unique selling point, huh for Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. James Cornish: a remote. Paul Krigger: If we can afford James Cornish: Okay, well Paul Krigger: it. Humberto Scott: Yeah, James Cornish: I Humberto Scott: if we James Cornish: guess Humberto Scott: can afford James Cornish: we have to Humberto Scott: it. Yeah. James Cornish: postpone Howard Rosario: Oh, okay James Cornish: further discussion to uh our next meeting, because we're running out of time. Um for now, we're having a lunch break, Howard Rosario: Oh. James Cornish: and then there will be uh half an hour for the uh next share of individual work. I will uh write uh minutes, if I can create them out of this. And Howard Rosario: Mm. James Cornish: uh put them in the the project documents uh folder. And here are the individual actions for the for the other roles. And of course specific instructions will be sent to you again by your uh personal coach. Paul Krigger: Alright. James Cornish: Luckily as we are. Okay, well thank you very much, Humberto Scott: Mm-hmm. James Cornish: for now, and uh Paul Krigger: Lunch. James Cornish: have a nice lunch, huh? Howard Rosario: Okay. Food. Paul Krigger: Should we put this back in our rooms, or uh? Howard Rosario: Yeah, think so. Paul Krigger: Yeah.

James Cornish opened the meeting and then Howard Rosario discussed the interior workings of a remote along with his personal preferences for the appearance of a remote. Paul Krigger discussed the technical functions of a remote and indicated that a user centered approach to designing the interface would be preferable. Humberto Scott discussed the functional requirements of a remote and user tendencies in using remotes. Humberto Scott indicated that an ideal remote would include an LCD screen, would not be too small in size, and is easy to use. James Cornish briefed the team on some new requirements and led them in a discussion in which the team discussed their target group and made decisions on the appearance and functions of their upcoming product.

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Richard Bishop: Good. Donald Ramesh: Beep. Oh. Ernest Wright: What? Richard Bishop: So uh welcome everyone. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Um as you may have noticed I uh created separate folders because it was uh Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: tending to get a little busy in our uh shared project documents uh folder. I don't know if everybody uh put their own uh documents in the right folder, which is for now the detailed design meeting. John Carmichael: That's new one? Ernest Wright: We Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: didn't make any uh Donald Ramesh: Uh, we should save that Ernest Wright: Oh in Richard Bishop: Then I'll move Donald Ramesh: one. Richard Bishop: this Ernest Wright: Didn't Richard Bishop: one. Ernest Wright: we just do that? Donald Ramesh: Yeah, save in the folder. Ernest Wright: Oh. Donald Ramesh: Save as project. Richard Bishop: Oh no, this is just one big document, so you can leave that wherever it is. Donald Ramesh: Oh, okay. Hmm hmm. Richard Bishop: And evaluation left. Okay. Donald Ramesh: Agenda. Richard Bishop: Well not main documents this time. Ernest Wright: Hmm? Richard Bishop: Oh uh yes. I have it open myself I guess. Um well the detailed design meeting Huh? We're finally getting somewhere hopefully. Um what are we going to do? I've opened it already. Um I'm still going to take some minutes, Donald Ramesh: Oh, sorry. Richard Bishop: and if I'm right, you two are going to give a prototype presentation? Ernest Wright: We could. Richard Bishop: Aren't you? Yes, you are. And uh m did you do something with evaluation criteria? John Carmichael: Yep. Yep. Richard Bishop: Good. And we have a correct agenda. And uh then we have to look at something which is less nice, the finance uh aspect, whether we can afford what we have designed, and Ernest Wright: Oops. Richard Bishop: if we can we can uh commence the final part which is the production or project evaluation, how did we work together and what are the results, and how happy are we with those. Okay, well finance uh will be later. Now I'd like to give the word to you two. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Get up stand up. Ernest Wright: Well Donald Ramesh: just Ernest Wright: uh we Donald Ramesh: 'Kay. Ernest Wright: made a prototype. We first start with the overall uh This Donald Ramesh: View. Ernest Wright: is about the total remote control. We made it Donald Ramesh: Just example colour, so Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: uh there's one the colours we would to uh see Ernest Wright: It's a fresh Donald Ramesh: our. Ernest Wright: colour. And uh the screen light blue. Oh uh this the scroll button and the microphone on the on the sides here under. And the R_ and R_ logo, it just says R_ and R_ now, but uh Donald Ramesh: Okay? Ernest Wright: Any questions so far? John Carmichael: Big microphone. Donald Ramesh: yeah, just Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: uh just an idea about John Carmichael: Oh okay. Donald Ramesh: how to m th that could also be John Carmichael: That's Donald Ramesh: possible. John Carmichael: the place where it's going to be, not Donald Ramesh: Uh John Carmichael: the size. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: well, it's an idea in a Ernest Wright: Oh y Donald Ramesh: so. Ernest Wright: you perhaps you should make it a bit big, so people know it's there and uh Donald Ramesh: Do not forget it. Ernest Wright: Uh John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Donald Ramesh: To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uh big of course. John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: Hmm. John Carmichael: okay. Donald Ramesh: The microphone John Carmichael: Of course. Donald Ramesh: could be just a minor uh hole John Carmichael: Mm. Donald Ramesh: uh John Carmichael: Mm, Donald Ramesh: on the left John Carmichael: th yeah. Donald Ramesh: uh button. John Carmichael: Small. Donald Ramesh: Okay um we also made some uh ideas about how uh the options menu would work. Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uh um Ernest Wright: You push the scroll button Donald Ramesh: Yeah, you push the scroll button Ernest Wright: and it's claps out if there's Donald Ramesh: and a drop Ernest Wright: a Donald Ramesh: down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uh becoming available. For example uh T_V_ settings, uh Ernest Wright: Remote settings, Donald Ramesh: remote Ernest Wright: et cetera. Donald Ramesh: settings, et cetera. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: So uh you can scroll down too with the scroll uh button, uh as you can see oh, it's here, just push it in, uh the menu comes out like this and uh i it all becomes visible. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Um Ernest Wright: And you could also touch it so that it comes Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: out, and Donald Ramesh: that's c Ernest Wright: and use Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: the the the scroll thing as a with your fingers. Donald Ramesh: Indeed. Ernest Wright: Yes. Donald Ramesh: Okay, um it's also uh nice to see that um we made a small uh menu, uh the options menu uh becoming available when pressing the uh scroll uh button, and the opportunity to use the teletext, whi which is used uh which should still be used and we think that it's uh very handy to put it uh not uh under the options menu, but in uh Yes. In an apart uh Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: So a separate button Donald Ramesh: In a separate Richard Bishop: for Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: button, Richard Bishop: for text, Donald Ramesh: yeah. Richard Bishop: okay. Ernest Wright: Perhaps we should use the teletext sign in p Donald Ramesh: A sign, Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: yeah, just like Okay, indeed. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Okay, we can Ernest Wright: Forgot. Donald Ramesh: uh modify that later. Okay. Would you like to make any comments about next Ernest Wright: Uh Donald Ramesh: uh Ernest Wright: well, this is the total interface uh that f of the L_C_D_ screen. Uh the numbers, which is pretty straight forward. We put ano an an extra button in. We can erase it, but It's the button where you can switch channels. just when you are one and you go to two, you can or if you go to five, you can go back to one with that button. Yeah, Donald Ramesh: Previous page, Ernest Wright: that Donald Ramesh: yeah, Ernest Wright: one, yeah. Donald Ramesh: indeed. Ernest Wright: It has a name. And uh Donald Ramesh: Oh my God. Ernest Wright: uh we put that in, I thought it would be handy there. Uh this the one number or two numbers button. Below that, the page and the sound. And uh in the middle the the mute. Uh battery indicator. It's Donald Ramesh: It's Ernest Wright: it's Donald Ramesh: quite Ernest Wright: a bit Donald Ramesh: large. Ernest Wright: big. And this is the uh the on off uh knop, the stand by uh knop. Or at least it should look like it. And the options uh Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: of teletext. Donald Ramesh: You can see very clearly now that the uh teletext and options menu isn't uh taking uh much uh uh it's taking much part of the screen, so it's very uh when you uh when you use it, doesn't uh become irritating to see. 'Cause Ernest Wright: Huh. Donald Ramesh: if you put it on the top you always get see the the options menu. 'Cause people regularly uh read from left top to right down, so Richard Bishop: Mm-hmm. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Well this about it, I think. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Huh. Richard Bishop: Thank you. Ernest Wright: I will put Richard Bishop: Looks Ernest Wright: it Richard Bishop: good. Ernest Wright: back on the on Richard Bishop: And Ernest Wright: the Richard Bishop: I Ernest Wright: nice Richard Bishop: just missed Ernest Wright: green. Richard Bishop: when I was typing The R_R_ stands for? Ernest Wright: That's the logo of the Richard Bishop: Logo, okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. It's th th Richard Bishop: Okay well Ernest Wright: right now it's only R_ R_, but uh Donald Ramesh: Full screen. Richard Bishop: I would have recognised John Carmichael: Shit. Richard Bishop: it if it were the right colours of course. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Alright. Ernest Wright: Sorry. John Carmichael: 'Kay. Richard Bishop: Okay, the Ernest Wright: Oh full screen, Richard Bishop: evaluation Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: Huh. Richard Bishop: criteria, huh? John Carmichael: Evaluation. 'Kay, my task was this time to put up a questionnaire by we can evaluate of the remote control by the questions we requirements from the of the users My name, my job, okay. Donald Ramesh: My name, John Carmichael: The methods. Donald Ramesh: my job. John Carmichael: Questionnaire with seven point scale from one to seven, from true to false, like Ernest Wright: Right. John Carmichael: question, is remote big enough, we can say it's true or it's false by steps. One means absolutely not true, seven means true. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: The three important things of refa Donald Ramesh: Sorry, you used the PowerPoint John Carmichael: are uh from th of this year is are, is the remote control fancy enough, Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: is it in innovative enough, and is it easy enough to use. And then evaluation itself. Uh. Donald Ramesh: What? John Carmichael: So. Donald Ramesh: Bling. John Carmichael: Okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: First question. Is the design fancy enough? Ernest Wright: Well John Carmichael: Project Manager, what do you think? Richard Bishop: Well it's looks fancy, especially with the Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: green colour. John Carmichael: But does it Richard Bishop: And the the curves which we decided, huh? John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Only what happened to the single curve we spoke Donald Ramesh: Now uh Richard Bishop: about Ernest Wright: It uh Donald Ramesh: the single Ernest Wright: oh Richard Bishop: last Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: meeting? Donald Ramesh: curved Ernest Wright: in the background. Donald Ramesh: idea was Ernest Wright: Oh. Donald Ramesh: uh Yeah, okay, you ge um Ernest Wright: Y you should make uh a sideways Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: uh view. Donald Ramesh: The sideways view, uh that that that Ernest Wright: It Donald Ramesh: ma Ernest Wright: will be, I guess. Oh, Donald Ramesh: Ho not Ernest Wright: we Donald Ramesh: that Ernest Wright: can Donald Ramesh: pen. Not that Ernest Wright: Oh Donald Ramesh: pen. Ernest Wright: g I would Richard Bishop: Well it might Ernest Wright: smart Richard Bishop: work one Ernest Wright: board. Richard Bishop: time, huh. Ernest Wright: Uh can I draw here or uh Donald Ramesh: Suppose so. John Carmichael: Think. Ernest Wright: Ooh. Donald Ramesh: Ah. John Carmichael: Yeah, yeah, Donald Ramesh: Oh John Carmichael: you can. Donald Ramesh: my Ernest Wright: So Donald Ramesh: God, it Ernest Wright: it Donald Ramesh: works. Ernest Wright: would be uh something like this from the side, but with a bit of uh curve here, right? Donald Ramesh: Yeah, that's the single curve indeed. Ernest Wright: Yeah. So if you v flip it like this. Donald Ramesh: Yep. Richard Bishop: Okay. Ernest Wright: Here's Donald Ramesh: That's Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: not very i it's also uh very handy if you make a side curve way to make the the remote control very thin at the bottom uh at a bottom at a bottom. Uh make it uh rather thick on the top, because uh on the top it has uh the screen, which takes uh in some uh space, and the batteries can be located over there, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: so Ernest Wright: So Donald Ramesh: uh Ernest Wright: you just make the back of this part a bit bigger, so that Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: it lays John Carmichael: Isn't Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: going Ernest Wright: bit John Carmichael: to Ernest Wright: o John Carmichael: be a little bit heavy at the top? Donald Ramesh: No. Ernest Wright: Yeah, that's a bit of problem maybe. John Carmichael: With two batteries, the whole print plate and t and Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: top, and if you're holding it Ernest Wright: I think yeah, the John Carmichael: quite Ernest Wright: battery John Carmichael: a Ernest Wright: should John Carmichael: lot Ernest Wright: be in here, John Carmichael: I think Ernest Wright: because it's Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: just nothing, John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: so if you could Donald Ramesh: Okay, indeed. Yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah. 'Cause Richard Bishop: Okay, Ernest Wright: otherwise Richard Bishop: but we Ernest Wright: I Richard Bishop: have Ernest Wright: think Richard Bishop: to Ernest Wright: i Richard Bishop: rate uh John Carmichael: Yeah, we have to rate. Richard Bishop: these things John Carmichael: Is Richard Bishop: now? John Carmichael: it Richard Bishop: Okay. John Carmichael: fancy enough? True is one, false is seven. So fancy enough means, does it comes to the younger people and the elder people. Ernest Wright: I think it Donald Ramesh: I think Ernest Wright: does. Donald Ramesh: so. John Carmichael: I think Ernest Wright: I Donald Ramesh: It's pretty Ernest Wright: if you Donald Ramesh: fancy. Ernest Wright: don't make it green, then the elder people won't won't John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: like John Carmichael: I have Ernest Wright: it. John Carmichael: to agree, all the colour colours don don Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: you John Carmichael: doesn't Donald Ramesh: get John Carmichael: matter Donald Ramesh: th John Carmichael: that m that much now, it's Richard Bishop: Mm-hmm. John Carmichael: only design. Ernest Wright: I think it does. Richard Bishop: Yeah. John Carmichael: And the design. Richard Bishop: Well I think Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: uh especially because of the microphone and the L_C_D_ screen Ernest Wright: Yeah. I don't know Richard Bishop: also. Ernest Wright: whether older people will use Richard Bishop: Very Ernest Wright: it, Richard Bishop: new Ernest Wright: but Richard Bishop: thing. Well John Carmichael: So Richard Bishop: Fancy Ernest Wright: I Richard Bishop: the Ernest Wright: would Richard Bishop: old Ernest Wright: make it Richard Bishop: people Ernest Wright: a two Richard Bishop: will. Ernest Wright: or something. John Carmichael: A two? Ernest Wright: Yeah. Huh? Donald Ramesh: It's true, it's a one. Ernest Wright: Alright, it's a one. Donald Ramesh: Very Ernest Wright: Oh Donald Ramesh: fancy. Richard Bishop: No, it's a two. Ernest Wright: it's a one. Richard Bishop: Little bit strange we have to judge that ourselves, huh? John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: I n used I wouldn I should use that one, but it doesn't Ernest Wright: But it's a one uh John Carmichael: Okay, Ernest Wright: Maybe John Carmichael: no Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: it's two? True is a one. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Very true, is it very true or isn't that true? Richard Bishop: Well Ernest Wright: Well Richard Bishop: I'd Ernest Wright: they Richard Bishop: say Ernest Wright: think Richard Bishop: two Ernest Wright: it's very Richard Bishop: on a scale Ernest Wright: true, but Donald Ramesh: It's very Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: true, John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: because John Carmichael: I think Donald Ramesh: we designed John Carmichael: two. Donald Ramesh: it to be very fancy, so Ernest Wright: Yeah, but Donald Ramesh: It's very fancy, I think. Ernest Wright: We should Donald Ramesh: Have you ever Ernest Wright: perhaps Donald Ramesh: seen a remote control like this? Richard Bishop: No, okay well, Donald Ramesh: No, Richard Bishop: that's Donald Ramesh: okay, Richard Bishop: true. Donald Ramesh: so John Carmichael: That's Ernest Wright: That Donald Ramesh: so John Carmichael: fancy Ernest Wright: not. Donald Ramesh: it's fancy. John Carmichael: enough. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Then? Richard Bishop: Okay, one two. That doesn't matter that much, John Carmichael: Okay. Richard Bishop: so Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: make it a one. John Carmichael: Let's give it a two. Is it innovative? Ernest Wright: I think John Carmichael: Enough. Ernest Wright: it is, because it has Richard Bishop: Yeah Ernest Wright: an L_C_D_ Richard Bishop: m Ernest Wright: screen, a mi microphone. Donald Ramesh: And uh John Carmichael: We have Ernest Wright: It's John Carmichael: for Ernest Wright: from John Carmichael: the search Ernest Wright: rubber. Donald Ramesh: uh the scroll John Carmichael: function. Donald Ramesh: is rubber, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: so s John Carmichael: The scroller Donald Ramesh: Eno John Carmichael: a bit I think Donald Ramesh: enough John Carmichael: it's Donald Ramesh: to Ernest Wright: It's Donald Ramesh: I Ernest Wright: a one Donald Ramesh: think. John Carmichael: it's a Ernest Wright: I John Carmichael: one Ernest Wright: think. John Carmichael: yeah. True. Also huh uh-huh the buttons, are they easy to find? That was a big requirement of the old people. Ernest Wright: Yeah, because they're right on your screen. So you can use the b the the arrows. Donald Ramesh: Huh. Ernest Wright: They're right on your screen, so I don't know where you'd Donald Ramesh: With the ones Ernest Wright: search. John Carmichael: Are all the buttons Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: easy to find? Not only this buttons, all the buttons. Ernest Wright: Well, I think they are. The Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: options are it uh little bit harder, but if you Donald Ramesh: Take Ernest Wright: touch Donald Ramesh: a harder Ernest Wright: the Donald Ramesh: look, Ernest Wright: options Donald Ramesh: yeah, Ernest Wright: then Donald Ramesh: sure. Ernest Wright: it's uh John Carmichael: I think th it's Donald Ramesh: It's easier John Carmichael: easy t Donald Ramesh: than the regular uh remote control. John Carmichael: Yeah, Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: I Richard Bishop: and John Carmichael: think Richard Bishop: you use John Carmichael: this is easy Richard Bishop: these John Carmichael: now. Richard Bishop: buttons John Carmichael: I think Richard Bishop: the most, John Carmichael: th I think Richard Bishop: huh? John Carmichael: the Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: options Richard Bishop: So John Carmichael: buttons are not the the easiest way to to Ernest Wright: No they're not, but they're John Carmichael: to Ernest Wright: they're John Carmichael: handle. Ernest Wright: they are easy to find. John Carmichael: True. I Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: would rate Donald Ramesh: they John Carmichael: it Donald Ramesh: are John Carmichael: a Donald Ramesh: a lot easier to find than uh th than on the regular remote controls where you have Ernest Wright: Oh. Donald Ramesh: to uh find out what which sign or icon means on uh every John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: button. John Carmichael: okay, Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: that's true, that's Donald Ramesh: So Richard Bishop: So John Carmichael: true. Donald Ramesh: you have t you Richard Bishop: which Donald Ramesh: have to use the John Carmichael: But Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: that's Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: that's vantage Donald Ramesh: manual John Carmichael: of L_C_D_ Donald Ramesh: to John Carmichael: screen, Donald Ramesh: understand John Carmichael: you can have Donald Ramesh: most John Carmichael: text. Richard Bishop: So Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: which number are we going Ernest Wright: I would Richard Bishop: to Donald Ramesh: I Richard Bishop: fill Ernest Wright: say Donald Ramesh: think Richard Bishop: in? Donald Ramesh: it's Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: uh it's a two, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: at least. Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: A Ernest Wright: you Richard Bishop: two, Ernest Wright: can make Richard Bishop: yeah? Ernest Wright: it a two. Richard Bishop: Two, John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: three Donald Ramesh: It's not Richard Bishop: and Donald Ramesh: perfect, Richard Bishop: what do you Donald Ramesh: but Richard Bishop: think? John Carmichael: I think it's a three. Donald Ramesh: A three? Richard Bishop: Okay, Donald Ramesh: And Richard Bishop: so Donald Ramesh: why Richard Bishop: we Donald Ramesh: is John Carmichael: I Richard Bishop: have Donald Ramesh: that? John Carmichael: personally Richard Bishop: two, John Carmichael: think, because Richard Bishop: two, John Carmichael: I d I don't Richard Bishop: three. John Carmichael: think i maybe it's easy to use, it has to be easy to find right away. I I think if you have the button at the right, I don't think you can find the option Ernest Wright: Yeah, but John Carmichael: button Ernest Wright: you don't have John Carmichael: that Ernest Wright: t John Carmichael: easy. Ernest Wright: have to use the button on the right. John Carmichael: You Ernest Wright: You John Carmichael: can Ernest Wright: can touch it. John Carmichael: touch it. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: It said bo Ernest Wright: You you Donald Ramesh: both Ernest Wright: can touch Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: options. Ernest Wright: options. John Carmichael: okay, but you have y then you have here s written option on here, the teletext button, right? Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: Okay, then okay, good. Then I think also two, yeah. Ernest Wright: You can touch options and Richard Bishop: A Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: two, Ernest Wright: comes Richard Bishop: okay, Ernest Wright: out. John Carmichael: Yep. Donald Ramesh: A Richard Bishop: because Donald Ramesh: two, Richard Bishop: we have Donald Ramesh: a two. Richard Bishop: to Ernest Wright: The uh the Richard Bishop: It's Ernest Wright: um Donald Ramesh: Uh Richard Bishop: the Donald Ramesh: the Richard Bishop: box Donald Ramesh: next Richard Bishop: below Ernest Wright: Below. Donald Ramesh: question Richard Bishop: it, huh? Donald Ramesh: the next question. Oh my God. Richard Bishop: Otherwise we have two results in one question. Ernest Wright: It's different. Richard Bishop: Okay, next John Carmichael: It's Richard Bishop: question. John Carmichael: easy to use, as well for younger as elderl elderly people. Ernest Wright: For young people I think it's easy to use. John Carmichael: Young means Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: sixteen Donald Ramesh: I was John Carmichael: to forty years. Donald Ramesh: uh Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: And elderly from forty Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: eight to their Ernest Wright: I think John Carmichael: death. Ernest Wright: it's Donald Ramesh: I think it's the most useful uh remote control ever to be manufactured. Richard Bishop: Okay, you're very enthusiastic John Carmichael: Also Richard Bishop: about Ernest Wright: In the entire Richard Bishop: your John Carmichael: if Richard Bishop: own John Carmichael: you're Richard Bishop: design, Ernest Wright: mankind. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: sixty Donald Ramesh: but Richard Bishop: huh? Donald Ramesh: because John Carmichael: years Donald Ramesh: it has John Carmichael: old Donald Ramesh: the regular uh controls, li uh as you can see in the screen now, and uh So it's Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: t I think it's really easy to use. You want John Carmichael: Also Donald Ramesh: these options Richard Bishop: As well for Donald Ramesh: to Richard Bishop: the for the older John Carmichael: Yeah, Richard Bishop: people? John Carmichael: as well Donald Ramesh: Uh sure. John Carmichael: as your if you're fif sixty years old, Ernest Wright: Yeah, but uh John Carmichael: you're holding one of those things in your Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: hand No, Ernest Wright: right? John Carmichael: but we're going Ernest Wright: So John Carmichael: to th make this f for a all kind of people, Richard Bishop: And John Carmichael: so it it Richard Bishop: would John Carmichael: it Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: it John Carmichael: has Ernest Wright: okay, Richard Bishop: be easy John Carmichael: to Ernest Wright: but John Carmichael: be Ernest Wright: so Richard Bishop: for them Ernest Wright: they could Richard Bishop: to use the speech recognition? Ernest Wright: Uh I think it is. If they read a manual. Richard Bishop: Because that might John Carmichael: If Richard Bishop: Yeah. John Carmichael: you Richard Bishop: Okay, John Carmichael: read Donald Ramesh: Perhaps John Carmichael: the Richard Bishop: well Donald Ramesh: that John Carmichael: manual, Donald Ramesh: is Ernest Wright: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: one of the Ernest Wright: alright. Donald Ramesh: most John Carmichael: always. Donald Ramesh: uh Richard Bishop: M Ernest Wright: Because Richard Bishop: maybe Donald Ramesh: Uh Ernest Wright: it Donald Ramesh: because Richard Bishop: that's Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: the Donald Ramesh: a lot Richard Bishop: most Ernest Wright: not Donald Ramesh: of Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: user Ernest Wright: not Richard Bishop: friendly Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: and Ernest Wright: it's not Richard Bishop: easy to Ernest Wright: uh difficult. Richard Bishop: use. Ernest Wright: You say you say uh Donald Ramesh: Channel Ernest Wright: record Donald Ramesh: one, channel four, yeah. Ernest Wright: to to the to the speech recognition, then you say the question and the answer. And that's everything it does, the speech recognition. Richard Bishop: Yeah, well maybe that would make it even Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: more easy to use for Ernest Wright: I Richard Bishop: them. Ernest Wright: think it would Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: make Donald Ramesh: I think Ernest Wright: it uh Donald Ramesh: it does. John Carmichael: So Donald Ramesh: Because all the people who can't uh Ernest Wright: I would make it two. John Carmichael: Also two? Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Uh John Carmichael: Not Donald Ramesh: a John Carmichael: a seven Donald Ramesh: two. John Carmichael: for this? Donald Ramesh: Sure, two. Oh. Richard Bishop: I'd say three. Ernest Wright: Three? John Carmichael: I would also say three. Ernest Wright: Oh. Richard Bishop: Okay, Ernest Wright: You? Richard Bishop: so we have three three two two or Donald Ramesh: Two. Ernest Wright: Oh. Well Richard Bishop: So what are we going to do? Ernest Wright: Two and a Richard Bishop: Okay, a three, I see. Ernest Wright: half. Richard Bishop: Uh Ernest Wright: Three? Donald Ramesh: Give Ernest Wright: No. Donald Ramesh: John Carmichael more. Richard Bishop: Another question. John Carmichael: Remotes overwhelmed with buttons. Ernest Wright: No. Donald Ramesh: No. Richard Bishop: No. John Carmichael: No, that that's that's Ernest Wright: But John Carmichael: yeah. Ernest Wright: um I mean, John Carmichael: Tha Ernest Wright: that's John Carmichael: that's a one, Ernest Wright: definitely John Carmichael: I think, Ernest Wright: one. John Carmichael: that's definitely Donald Ramesh: That's John Carmichael: a Donald Ramesh: definitely John Carmichael: one. Donald Ramesh: our Ernest Wright: Oh nee, Donald Ramesh: uh Ernest Wright: oh seven is it? It is. John Carmichael: No? Oh Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: yeah. Ernest Wright: uh the remote Donald Ramesh: A Richard Bishop: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: false, Ernest Wright: score. Richard Bishop: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: yeah. Richard Bishop: but I think you should make it one scale with with one John Carmichael: Yeah, Richard Bishop: being good and John Carmichael: I think Richard Bishop: seven being John Carmichael: isn't, Richard Bishop: bad, because John Carmichael: this Richard Bishop: otherwise John Carmichael: has to be Richard Bishop: we can't uh John Carmichael: something Ernest Wright: It's not John Carmichael: like Ernest Wright: overwhelmed. Richard Bishop: calculate anything John Carmichael: isn't Richard Bishop: from John Carmichael: overwhelmed. Richard Bishop: the Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: results, so Donald Ramesh: Yeah, indeed. John Carmichael: True. Richard Bishop: Okay, Ernest Wright: Yep. Richard Bishop: a one, because we designed for that, John Carmichael: Remote Richard Bishop: huh? John Carmichael: control has uh colours that different Ernest Wright: Yes. John Carmichael: that meet different target groups. Ernest Wright: 'Cause we make them in different colours, so John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: that they Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: is optional. John Carmichael: That's Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: true. Richard Bishop: and I though w we had about single colours, but you can also make uh a wood colour, not just one single colour but a Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: wood-like Donald Ramesh: Huh. Ernest Wright: That it that it looks Richard Bishop: thing, can't Ernest Wright: like Richard Bishop: you? Ernest Wright: wood, John Carmichael: Also Ernest Wright: like John Carmichael: with Ernest Wright: something, John Carmichael: rubber? Ernest Wright: yeah. Uh I think you Richard Bishop: Whether Ernest Wright: can. 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John Carmichael: Uh I have Donald Ramesh: to like Richard Bishop: Oh, okay well Ernest Wright: Oh we have Donald Ramesh: Geez. Ernest Wright: time. Richard Bishop: Yeah, but we have Donald Ramesh: We're Richard Bishop: We Donald Ramesh: getting Richard Bishop: also Donald Ramesh: paid. We're Richard Bishop: We Donald Ramesh: getting paid. John Carmichael: The material Richard Bishop: have to get John Carmichael: used Richard Bishop: to the John Carmichael: is Richard Bishop: money. John Carmichael: spongy, that that's uh that's a one, that's m rubber. Ernest Wright: What? Richard Bishop: What Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: spongy. Ernest Wright: yeah, it's very spongy. Donald Ramesh: Uh. John Carmichael: Yeah, I th Ernest Wright: Oh but not it's not very John Carmichael: think Ernest Wright: spongy, John Carmichael: it's not Ernest Wright: because John Carmichael: the Ernest Wright: it's John Carmichael: most Ernest Wright: hard rubber. John Carmichael: spongy thing. Ernest Wright: I think it's a three. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: it's a three, Richard Bishop: Uh-huh, yeah. Donald Ramesh: because you want to make it uh Ernest Wright: Hard Donald Ramesh: rather Ernest Wright: but Donald Ramesh: flexible but not too flexible, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: because Ernest Wright: You can Donald Ramesh: it has Ernest Wright: break Donald Ramesh: a L_C_D_ Ernest Wright: it. Donald Ramesh: screen. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Remote control Donald Ramesh: Hard John Carmichael: is hard to Donald Ramesh: to John Carmichael: lose. Donald Ramesh: lose, yeah it sh Ernest Wright: Y yeah, you could you Donald Ramesh: and Ernest Wright: could Donald Ramesh: it's Ernest Wright: call Donald Ramesh: easy John Carmichael: Y Donald Ramesh: to Ernest Wright: it. John Carmichael: you Donald Ramesh: find. John Carmichael: can't you can't lose it if you're sixty years old. If first time see the thing you didn didn't adjust uh set the microphone, and then you Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: lose it, then you have lost Ernest Wright: y you John Carmichael: it. Ernest Wright: can lose it, but it isn't hard to lose. John Carmichael: It isn't hard, no. I think I think this is a two, personally. Ernest Wright: Two. That it's hard to lose? John Carmichael: No. Ernest Wright: Yeah, it it is Donald Ramesh: Isn't hard Ernest Wright: there's Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: the Donald Ramesh: to Ernest Wright: it's Donald Ramesh: lose. Richard Bishop: so isn't Ernest Wright: a six, Richard Bishop: hard to lose Ernest Wright: you think? Donald Ramesh: Isn't hard to lose, yeah. Richard Bishop: you. John Carmichael: Isn't hard to lose. Ernest Wright: So it's a two. Yeah, you can lose it, so I don't John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: you can make John Carmichael: You Ernest Wright: it John Carmichael: can't Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: lose Ernest Wright: three John Carmichael: it. Ernest Wright: I It John Carmichael: Or Ernest Wright: does have John Carmichael: if you're Ernest Wright: an John Carmichael: you're Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: sixty Ernest Wright: built in John Carmichael: years Ernest Wright: function. John Carmichael: old, Richard Bishop: Yeah, but a har John Carmichael: your demands Richard Bishop: A hard to lose is good. So it should this Ernest Wright: Nee. Richard Bishop: question should be hard to lose. Ernest Wright: Hard Richard Bishop: It's Ernest Wright: to Richard Bishop: difficult Ernest Wright: lose. Richard Bishop: to lose Ernest Wright: Oh Richard Bishop: it. Ernest Wright: right. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, this this is Ernest Wright: It Donald Ramesh: hard Ernest Wright: is Donald Ramesh: to Ernest Wright: hard Donald Ramesh: lose. Ernest Wright: to lose. Yeah, so then this is it Donald Ramesh: This Ernest Wright: is almost John Carmichael: I Richard Bishop: A two. John Carmichael: think Ernest Wright: true, so a two. John Carmichael: yeah, Richard Bishop: A two. John Carmichael: I think also. Donald Ramesh: Two, yeah. Richard Bishop: Okay. Donald Ramesh: And most all because of the option to John Carmichael: Huh? Donald Ramesh: Whoa. Ernest Wright: Ooh. Richard Bishop: Yeah, it's okay. That happens above also. Ernest Wright: Oh. Donald Ramesh: Uh. Richard Bishop: But John Carmichael: Yeah? Richard Bishop: maybe when you scroll away John Carmichael: Oh, okay. Richard Bishop: and back it will be normal, but Yep. John Carmichael: No. Richard Bishop: Oh, Ernest Wright: Oh well, Richard Bishop: it Ernest Wright: it Richard Bishop: isn't, Ernest Wright: doesn't. Richard Bishop: well okay. Remember. Donald Ramesh: put the cor cursor on John Carmichael: Okay Donald Ramesh: the. John Carmichael: okay okay. Remote Donald Ramesh: Click. John Carmichael: control mainly be sold to younger people. Donald Ramesh: True. Ernest Wright: I think it will, John Carmichael: Yeah? Donald Ramesh: True. Ernest Wright: yeah. John Carmichael: True? Very true? Donald Ramesh: Uh Ernest Wright: Uh Donald Ramesh: yeah. John Carmichael: No, Donald Ramesh: Uh Richard Bishop: There. Ernest Wright: well I John Carmichael: I don't think very true because Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: the colours. Ernest Wright: a two. John Carmichael: We have the colours. Um we have the buttons is aren't that that much. Donald Ramesh: Materials, yeah. John Carmichael: Nah, the material isn't that Ernest Wright: It's Donald Ramesh: Uh Ernest Wright: it's Donald Ramesh: okay. Ernest Wright: much more younger. John Carmichael: So I don Donald Ramesh: So ma John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: uh make John Carmichael: think Donald Ramesh: it make John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: it a John Carmichael: think Donald Ramesh: two. John Carmichael: it's a three. Richard Bishop: Well I think it's it's uh a lower number, so better because w we designed it for young people Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: especially, John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: I John Carmichael: but Ernest Wright: think John Carmichael: I Ernest Wright: it's John Carmichael: uh Ernest Wright: a Richard Bishop: didn't Ernest Wright: two Richard Bishop: we? Ernest Wright: but John Carmichael: Okay, okay. Richard Bishop: What do you think? John Carmichael: I think Richard Bishop: Questions? Donald Ramesh: A John Carmichael: because Donald Ramesh: two? I think it's two. Richard Bishop: Two. John Carmichael: yeah? Donald Ramesh: I think it's two Richard Bishop: Uh-huh. Donald Ramesh: too, two too too. Ernest Wright: Two two two. Let's make everything John Carmichael: In Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: the Ernest Wright: two. John Carmichael: features? Richard Bishop: Dissatisfy younger people. Ernest Wright: Younger Richard Bishop: Um Ernest Wright: people. It Donald Ramesh: Well Ernest Wright: has Donald Ramesh: perhaps not. Ernest Wright: What John Carmichael: Because younger Ernest Wright: did John Carmichael: peoples are cr critical and they wanted a lot of features on Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: this thing. Ernest Wright: Well Donald Ramesh: Well, Ernest Wright: that it Donald Ramesh: n Ernest Wright: doesn't. Donald Ramesh: not exactly but uh uh if it had some games on it or something like Ernest Wright: Yeah Donald Ramesh: that, Ernest Wright: bu but Donald Ramesh: but it's for a remote control I think it i Ernest Wright: I think Donald Ramesh: it would Ernest Wright: they Donald Ramesh: satisfy Ernest Wright: like the speech. Donald Ramesh: those needs. Yeah, the Ernest Wright: You Donald Ramesh: speech Ernest Wright: could call Donald Ramesh: possibility, John Carmichael: L_C_D_ Ernest Wright: to your uh John Carmichael: screen Ernest Wright: yeah, Donald Ramesh: the colours. Ernest Wright: and John Carmichael: and scroll. Ernest Wright: the screen, Donald Ramesh: Scroll Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: options, yeah. John Carmichael: I I think they'll be quite met with their expectations. Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: Right, John Carmichael: No. Ernest Wright: that that that Richard Bishop: It Ernest Wright: those Richard Bishop: has Ernest Wright: are features. Richard Bishop: relatively John Carmichael: It's three Richard Bishop: few John Carmichael: features, Richard Bishop: features, John Carmichael: basically, Richard Bishop: with John Carmichael: the L_C_D_ touch screen is feature. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: The Ernest Wright: No, aren't John Carmichael: microphone Ernest Wright: the features John Carmichael: is a feature. Ernest Wright: the microphone's feature and that you can change the channel's feature, and that you can change Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: the volume is feature, and that you can change the options of the remote, John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: uh uh John Carmichael: okay. Richard Bishop: Ours Ernest Wright: something Richard Bishop: had other Ernest Wright: like that. Richard Bishop: features with John Carmichael: I think Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: yeah, and then you have the Donald Ramesh: The John Carmichael: audio Donald Ramesh: easy John Carmichael: settings, Donald Ramesh: volume John Carmichael: channel Donald Ramesh: up John Carmichael: setting, Donald Ramesh: button. Ernest Wright: Those John Carmichael: video Ernest Wright: are John Carmichael: settings. Ernest Wright: features. Donald Ramesh: Remote younger people usually use the remote control to put on the volume. John Carmichael: Yeah yeah. Donald Ramesh: Turn uh turn John Carmichael: So I've Donald Ramesh: up John Carmichael: chos Donald Ramesh: the volume. John Carmichael: I shou I think it's it's it's a one. Ernest Wright: Enough features? John Carmichael: Personally, yeah. I think once you've 'cause you have the channel features b uh you have the uh screen features, audio features, the you have all buttons on it which you'd like, microphone extra, L_C_D_ screen extra, scroll thing extra. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Okay, you think one, what do you think? Ernest Wright: I think Richard Bishop: You. Ernest Wright: two or three. Richard Bishop: three, yeah. Donald Ramesh: Two. Richard Bishop: I'd say three, so Ernest Wright: Yeah. Yeah Richard Bishop: two Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: Make Richard Bishop: it Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: it Richard Bishop: is Ernest Wright: two Richard Bishop: then John Carmichael: make Richard Bishop: or John Carmichael: it a Ernest Wright: a John Carmichael: two. Ernest Wright: two. Donald Ramesh: One two three. John Carmichael: Or make Ernest Wright: Just John Carmichael: it Ernest Wright: another John Carmichael: uh Ernest Wright: two. John Carmichael: a fucking Ernest Wright: We John Carmichael: two. Ernest Wright: like Donald Ramesh: Right. Ernest Wright: two. John Carmichael: You can see the remote control is R_ and R_. Ernest Wright: Yeah, there's Donald Ramesh: Uh. Ernest Wright: R_ and Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: R_ in front. Richard Bishop: Yep. Ernest Wright: Uh it's not the colour, so maybe you should make two, but it has R_ and John Carmichael: Has Ernest Wright: R_. John Carmichael: oh yeah, do did have nah y you have the black one. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: And we'll probably make also a yellow one. Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: but not R_ Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: and R_ Richard Bishop: maybe Ernest Wright: yellow Richard Bishop: maybe Ernest Wright: I think. Richard Bishop: two. Well m th John Carmichael: Maybe Richard Bishop: but John Carmichael: two. Richard Bishop: the logo Donald Ramesh: Okay, true, Richard Bishop: is on Donald Ramesh: yeah. Richard Bishop: on the front, so Ernest Wright: One John Carmichael: X_ Ernest Wright: d on i John Carmichael: marks Ernest Wright: it's John Carmichael: spot. Ernest Wright: the Richard Bishop: a two, Ernest Wright: colours Richard Bishop: yeah, that's Ernest Wright: and the John Carmichael: And the menu is avail that is available is easy to use. Ernest Wright: I think it is, but I don't know what you think. Donald Ramesh: I think it's easier to use than a regular remote control, John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: because John Carmichael: tha Donald Ramesh: when John Carmichael: that's Donald Ramesh: you push John Carmichael: so true. Donald Ramesh: on the options menu, you get the the the various options uh entirely explained. John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Donald Ramesh: Entirely explained. Instead of uh just finding out what an icon means on a button. John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Ernest Wright: And John Carmichael: uh Ernest Wright: you can navigate easier, Donald Ramesh: Yeah, you Ernest Wright: because Donald Ramesh: can navigate. Ernest Wright: wi with the you have to push the the the arrows and with a normal Donald Ramesh: Uh. Ernest Wright: T_V_ uh remote. John Carmichael: I think that wou that would be quite hard to learn Donald Ramesh: You're not John Carmichael: to Donald Ramesh: satisfied, John Carmichael: use it. Donald Ramesh: okay. John Carmichael: No, I'm Donald Ramesh: Let's start John Carmichael: not not Donald Ramesh: over John Carmichael: convinc. Donald Ramesh: again then. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Let's make a different remote. John Carmichael: Let's go th Ernest Wright: Well John Carmichael: for Ernest Wright: Menu. John Carmichael: I think it would be a t yeah, two. Ernest Wright: A two? John Carmichael: Now lower. Donald Ramesh: A two. Richard Bishop: Oh, Ernest Wright: We only Richard Bishop: well Ernest Wright: have Richard Bishop: that's Ernest Wright: twos. Richard Bishop: that's pretty good, huh? Donald Ramesh: Oh yeah, I think so. Yeah. Ernest Wright: Uh just John Carmichael: So Ernest Wright: twos. John Carmichael: okay, Donald Ramesh: And Ernest Wright: One Donald Ramesh: three. John Carmichael: we Ernest Wright: three John Carmichael: have Ernest Wright: and a few ones. John Carmichael: one three, a one, that that have to got Ernest Wright: Two threes. John Carmichael: up. Two two two Ernest Wright: We John Carmichael: two Ernest Wright: m John Carmichael: two. Ernest Wright: mostly have twos, John Carmichael: So two, yeah. Ernest Wright: so it's pretty good. John Carmichael: The average is a two. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: That Donald Ramesh: The average. John Carmichael: is quite good Ernest Wright: Yeah. I think John Carmichael: in my Ernest Wright: so John Carmichael: opinion. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: too. Donald Ramesh: I think so. John Carmichael: That Ernest Wright: We John Carmichael: Ooh. Ernest Wright: can be happy. Donald Ramesh: Save. John Carmichael: Ooh. Ernest Wright: Yeah. What is it? It's like a bug Donald Ramesh: It's Ernest Wright: or Donald Ramesh: a fly. Ernest Wright: something. A fly, yeah. Donald Ramesh: Oh m Ernest Wright: A f butterfly. John Carmichael: Top. Ernest Wright: Yeah. That's it. John Carmichael: Okay. Richard Bishop: That was your evaluation uh John Carmichael: Yes. Richard Bishop: show, okay, so we don't Ernest Wright: Sure. Richard Bishop: have to calculate anything because of um John Carmichael: No, it's Richard Bishop: these John Carmichael: two. Richard Bishop: results. Okay, good. John Carmichael: The Ernest Wright: It's John Carmichael: average Ernest Wright: good. John Carmichael: is two. Richard Bishop: Um Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: let's see oh, it isn't asked to save but it did Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: already John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: Exactly. John Carmichael: I uh uh I uh Richard Bishop: And John Carmichael: saved Richard Bishop: this John Carmichael: it. Richard Bishop: Everything okay. Well, the next part uh might be a little bit difficult to do in a group, but I am willing to try it. Because we are going to look at the finance and I have Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: a nice Excel sheet to do that. Ernest Wright: Redesign. No. Richard Bishop: And um I'm not sure if I put it in the project folder. look on that. Um and we're going to calculate the production costs, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: and if they are uh under or at twelve Euro fifty, we're good, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: and if they're not we're going to uh re-design, Ernest Wright: So we're going Richard Bishop: but Ernest Wright: to Richard Bishop: we have to do that Ernest Wright: erase Richard Bishop: uh Ernest Wright: features Richard Bishop: very Ernest Wright: or Richard Bishop: very Ernest Wright: something. Richard Bishop: quick I think, yes. Um I don't know if I Ernest Wright: Do you have the cost or uh Richard Bishop: put the Excel sheet in the Ernest Wright: Let's hope. Richard Bishop: n not in the John Carmichael: f Ernest Wright: We're going Richard Bishop: folder. John Carmichael: fifty Ernest Wright: to be here John Carmichael: five Richard Bishop: I Ernest Wright: at eight John Carmichael: Euros. Ernest Wright: o'clock. Richard Bishop: think it's I think it's still in my own documents folder. Ernest Wright: We're goin still going to be here at eight o'clock. John Carmichael: No. Ernest Wright: I doubt Richard Bishop: Oh shit. Ernest Wright: it. Perhaps we've got features that don't exist John Carmichael: Yeah Ernest Wright: in the Excel John Carmichael: mm Ernest Wright: sheet. John Carmichael: yeah, maybe. Richard Bishop: So John Carmichael: The microphone. Ernest Wright: No, it was in my uh my Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: information, Donald Ramesh: It Ernest Wright: so Donald Ramesh: i John Carmichael: Yeah? Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: It wasn't too much. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: maybe you're going scrap Donald Ramesh: As well as the L_C_D_ screen. John Carmichael: scrap Donald Ramesh: Whoa. John Carmichael: it. Richard Bishop: Okay, Ernest Wright: Well, Richard Bishop: well Ernest Wright: if it doesn't Richard Bishop: this is Ernest Wright: work Richard Bishop: it. Um maybe I could ask one of you to uh fill it in, so that I can also uh Ernest Wright: I Richard Bishop: take Ernest Wright: want Richard Bishop: minutes, Ernest Wright: to fill it in, John Carmichael: No prob. Ernest Wright: but uh Richard Bishop: and uh maybe the other can uh use that thing to count uh numerous John Carmichael: Ah. Richard Bishop: functions. Ernest Wright: But you should uh John Carmichael: Count Ernest Wright: direct John Carmichael: it? Li like write Richard Bishop: Well John Carmichael: it Richard Bishop: we have to John Carmichael: be Richard Bishop: count some things and we have to think about some things. Donald Ramesh: Count it. Richard Bishop: But Donald Ramesh: You Richard Bishop: you have Donald Ramesh: got Richard Bishop: to fill Donald Ramesh: Excel Richard Bishop: in Donald Ramesh: to count. Richard Bishop: this Ernest Wright: The number Richard Bishop: column, Ernest Wright: of Richard Bishop: huh? No, uh count uh number of functions, because Donald Ramesh: Oh okay. Richard Bishop: for every button you have to Donald Ramesh: Well Richard Bishop: pay John Carmichael: Ah, Richard Bishop: and Donald Ramesh: I dra John Carmichael: okay, Donald Ramesh: uh Richard Bishop: there are Donald Ramesh: Danny, Richard Bishop: different screen Donald Ramesh: Danny, Richard Bishop: shots, John Carmichael: cool. Richard Bishop: so John Carmichael: Huh? Donald Ramesh: I'll do that, because John Carmichael: Yeah? Richard Bishop: or John Carmichael: Oh, Donald Ramesh: I draw Richard Bishop: different John Carmichael: yea yeah, Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: you Donald Ramesh: uh John Carmichael: design Richard Bishop: different John Carmichael: it. Richard Bishop: screens, so Ernest Wright: We've got a battery, one or t two batteries, John Carmichael: Um Ernest Wright: or not? nee one battery, with two small batteries. John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Yeah, but it's it's more about the energy source, huh? Do you Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: use a hand dynamo, a battery, Ernest Wright: I would do a battery Richard Bishop: kinetic or solar Ernest Wright: we do. Richard Bishop: cells? John Carmichael: Solar Ernest Wright: Right? John Carmichael: cell. No it took Ernest Wright: A Richard Bishop: We'll Donald Ramesh: No, Ernest Wright: battery. John Carmichael: a Donald Ramesh: no Richard Bishop: wait. John Carmichael: battery? Donald Ramesh: solar cell, no no no no. Ernest Wright: One battery, right? Richard Bishop: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: No John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: hand dynamo. Hand Ernest Wright: Electronics, John Carmichael: We have Ernest Wright: simple chip advanced chip, right? John Carmichael: No, we have sample speaker. Donald Ramesh: On advanced chip. John Carmichael: But b al but we also have sample speaker, do Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: yeah. Ernest Wright: so this one and this one. Uh we John Carmichael: Oh, Ernest Wright: ha John Carmichael: we Ernest Wright: we John Carmichael: already Ernest Wright: have um John Carmichael: on Ernest Wright: single John Carmichael: nine. Ernest Wright: what? Are we? Oh yay. John Carmichael: We have double curved. Donald Ramesh: Single nee single Ernest Wright: The single. Donald Ramesh: curved. John Carmichael: Single. Donald Ramesh: Double curved was uh uh see uh ju three dimensional. But it isn't three dimensional, John Carmichael: This Ernest Wright: Oh Donald Ramesh: it John Carmichael: one Donald Ramesh: isn't John Carmichael: is Ernest Wright: the Donald Ramesh: curved Ernest Wright: the it's Donald Ramesh: in Ernest Wright: not Donald Ramesh: a Ernest Wright: going to Donald Ramesh: l Ernest Wright: work uh people. We have John Carmichael: This Ernest Wright: rubber. John Carmichael: one is curved like this, right. Richard Bishop: I'll just John Carmichael: It's Richard Bishop: fill it John Carmichael: curved Richard Bishop: in. John Carmichael: like Donald Ramesh: No John Carmichael: this. Donald Ramesh: no no, single Richard Bishop: Um Donald Ramesh: curved Richard Bishop: rubber Donald Ramesh: is like Richard Bishop: indeed? Donald Ramesh: this. John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: Uh John Carmichael: bu Donald Ramesh: that's John Carmichael: what Donald Ramesh: the only curve you made, not th uh curved like that. That's uh John Carmichael: Oh, but we have curves like it and it. There are two curves, Ernest Wright: Thirteen? John Carmichael: right? Oh, okay I understand, I Donald Ramesh: Huh? John Carmichael: understand. Ernest Wright: With a scroll wheel, right? John Carmichael: Rubber. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Is he integrated? No, eh? I John Carmichael: Push Ernest Wright: don't Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: button. Ernest Wright: know. John Carmichael: No, we don't have push Donald Ramesh: we gotta John Carmichael: button. Donald Ramesh: integrate scroll wheel and push button, because when you push it and you w it won't just pu Ernest Wright: Oh Donald Ramesh: uh Ernest Wright: yeah, Donald Ramesh: makes Ernest Wright: right, Donald Ramesh: possible Ernest Wright: we want Donald Ramesh: to s Ernest Wright: it to it's not it's not no. John Carmichael: L_C_D_ Donald Ramesh: Not going John Carmichael: display. Donald Ramesh: to work? Okay. Ernest Wright: Yep. Fifteen, oh, too bad. Donald Ramesh: Okay um Ernest Wright: Oh but with special colour we have. A special form, right? Donald Ramesh: But now button supplements. We don't got the button supplements. Ernest Wright: Oh, we don't have any buttons, so John Carmichael: Eighteen and a half, Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: damn. Ernest Wright: we need to uh John Carmichael: We Donald Ramesh: Damn. John Carmichael: have to lower it with six points. Ernest Wright: No, Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: uh we have fifteen and John Carmichael: Twelve and half. Ernest Wright: oh, right. We could lose the curve. Donald Ramesh: Nah. John Carmichael: We could use Ernest Wright: Yeah, I Donald Ramesh: We Ernest Wright: would Donald Ramesh: could Ernest Wright: lose Donald Ramesh: lose Ernest Wright: the curve. Donald Ramesh: the scroll wheel. You could make it just a regular scroll wheel. Ernest Wright: But you can't push it, so Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: you have Donald Ramesh: if you Ernest Wright: to Donald Ramesh: can't Ernest Wright: tap. Donald Ramesh: push it you have to tap the the options window uh button here and then uh scroll down with the d with uh with uh the Ernest Wright: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: button. Ernest Wright: alright. Richard Bishop: Yeah, I think that will Ernest Wright: So Richard Bishop: be Ernest Wright: normal scroll wheel? Richard Bishop: our best Donald Ramesh: Normal scroll Richard Bishop: bet. Donald Ramesh: wheel. Ernest Wright: And I think we should lose John Carmichael: I think Ernest Wright: the curve. John Carmichael: we should Donald Ramesh: Lose John Carmichael: scrap the sample speaker. It's four pri it four units. Ernest Wright: Yeah, but if you would i it is a new feature, it it's something Donald Ramesh: Okay, so Ernest Wright: special. Donald Ramesh: we don't exactly need the single John Carmichael: But w Donald Ramesh: We John Carmichael: d Donald Ramesh: don't need John Carmichael: wha Donald Ramesh: a curve. Ernest Wright: No, Donald Ramesh: 'S possible Ernest Wright: the curve Donald Ramesh: to John Carmichael: Curved Donald Ramesh: lose Ernest Wright: doesn't John Carmichael: then Donald Ramesh: curve. John Carmichael: it Ernest Wright: really John Carmichael: will be square. Ernest Wright: No, then it will won't uh stand up from the table. Then Donald Ramesh: Okay. John Carmichael: Was Ernest Wright: it John Carmichael: that Ernest Wright: would John Carmichael: does Ernest Wright: just John Carmichael: that mean to it, Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: single Donald Ramesh: that's John Carmichael: curve? Donald Ramesh: meant Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: with scr uh with s curve. The curve is uh in a dimension. John Carmichael: Okay. Donald Ramesh: If you make it a flat Ernest Wright: So Donald Ramesh: one, s n it's no curve, you got Ernest Wright: We would Donald Ramesh: no Ernest Wright: lose Donald Ramesh: curves. Ernest Wright: this one? John Carmichael: Yeah, but tha that Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: that Donald Ramesh: okay. John Carmichael: only is one. Ernest Wright: Yeah, we Donald Ramesh: No, Ernest Wright: could Donald Ramesh: two. Ernest Wright: s yeah, a bit. John Carmichael: No, one. Ernest Wright: Sixteen Donald Ramesh: Oh, Ernest Wright: point Donald Ramesh: okay, Ernest Wright: three. Donald Ramesh: indeed. John Carmichael: So we don't Ernest Wright: So we John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: still John Carmichael: we also have to Donald Ramesh: Is it possible to make Ernest Wright: Could could we do it on a regular chip on print or something? John Carmichael: No, otherwise we don't have an L_C_D_ screen. Ernest Wright: No? Ma Donald Ramesh: No. Ernest Wright: y you just can't Richard Bishop: And Ernest Wright: do that, Richard Bishop: what did Ernest Wright: or Richard Bishop: you Ernest Wright: uh Richard Bishop: change? You changed the Ernest Wright: We changed th Richard Bishop: uh scroll wheel and Ernest Wright: Yeah, and the John Carmichael: Single Ernest Wright: single curved John Carmichael: curved. Ernest Wright: to uncurved. Richard Bishop: Oh, John Carmichael: Flat. Richard Bishop: but it's just one John Carmichael: Yeah, so that does doesn't Richard Bishop: point, John Carmichael: doesn't Ernest Wright: No. Richard Bishop: so John Carmichael: that mu Richard Bishop: maybe John Carmichael: I think Richard Bishop: you should should uh John Carmichael: Scrap sample speaker? Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: That Richard Bishop: you John Carmichael: that's Donald Ramesh: The Richard Bishop: should Donald Ramesh: sample John Carmichael: uh Donald Ramesh: speaker Richard Bishop: you Donald Ramesh: is Richard Bishop: should Donald Ramesh: two d Richard Bishop: drop Donald Ramesh: wait, Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: the Ernest Wright: but Donald Ramesh: f s Ernest Wright: it's Richard Bishop: speech Donald Ramesh: four Ernest Wright: t Donald Ramesh: points. Richard Bishop: recognition. John Carmichael: Yes, four points. Ernest Wright: Yeah, but Richard Bishop: And Ernest Wright: it Richard Bishop: then Ernest Wright: is Richard Bishop: you can Ernest Wright: uh Richard Bishop: keep the curve. Ernest Wright: it it is a new feature, it Richard Bishop: Or Ernest Wright: is Richard Bishop: can't Ernest Wright: something Richard Bishop: you? Donald Ramesh: Yeah, uh Ernest Wright: special. Donald Ramesh: becau John Carmichael: Yeah, but Donald Ramesh: uh John Carmichael: what what Donald Ramesh: when John Carmichael: else Donald Ramesh: you lose John Carmichael: what else Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: uh do you want to scrap? F You have Ernest Wright: I John Carmichael: to Ernest Wright: don't John Carmichael: we Ernest Wright: know. John Carmichael: have to scrap four points. Ernest Wright: Yeah, that's difficult. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Or make it on a hand dynamo, but I Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: don't think that John Carmichael: Ma Richard Bishop: will John Carmichael: make Richard Bishop: work. John Carmichael: it with wood instead of rubber? Donald Ramesh: No, that's no. Make it Ernest Wright: Uh. Donald Ramesh: w uh when you made it uh uh uh a remote control of wood? John Carmichael: Yeah, it Donald Ramesh: You don't John Carmichael: it Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: i Ernest Wright: We Donald Ramesh: make Ernest Wright: could Donald Ramesh: a Richard Bishop: mm-hmm. Donald Ramesh: remote Ernest Wright: make it Donald Ramesh: control John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: titanium Donald Ramesh: of John Carmichael: it also Donald Ramesh: Ah. Ernest Wright: instead of rubber. John Carmichael: uh it also takes one point less. Richard Bishop: Yeah, but uh a wooden remote control only helps for Ernest Wright: Oh. Richard Bishop: uh Ernest Wright: Oh can I ask something? Richard Bishop: old people we discussed, Ernest Wright: What is Richard Bishop: yes? John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: special colour? Is that the wood uh wood uh John Carmichael: I think it is. Ernest Wright: this, Donald Ramesh: It Ernest Wright: we Donald Ramesh: isn't. Ernest Wright: have to have that one too? Donald Ramesh: What? John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Yeah, but it's only a half. But I think the only option is to John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: drop the uh John Carmichael: Sample speaker. Donald Ramesh: To knock Richard Bishop: sample Donald Ramesh: the sample Richard Bishop: speaker. Donald Ramesh: speaker, yeah. And sample sensor. Ernest Wright: Th then we still have too much John Carmichael: Yeah, okay, Ernest Wright: if John Carmichael: three. Ernest Wright: we Donald Ramesh: But Ernest Wright: use Donald Ramesh: m Ernest Wright: the John Carmichael: Point Donald Ramesh: yeah, Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: three. Donald Ramesh: course, but Ernest Wright: Yeah, we we Donald Ramesh: What Ernest Wright: scrap Donald Ramesh: we'll Ernest Wright: that Donald Ramesh: have. Ernest Wright: one? John Carmichael: Huh? Donald Ramesh: Let's make it thirteen or fourteen. John Carmichael: Point twelve. Ernest Wright: See, a po three. We need point three. John Carmichael: That's a scroll wheel. Ernest Wright: Uh it's a colour. Don't Donald Ramesh: A colour. Ernest Wright: make it wood. John Carmichael: Yeah, but a wood Ernest Wright: Make John Carmichael: we can Ernest Wright: it John Carmichael: make Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: it brown, dark brown, not wood. Ernest Wright: Yeah, but it's it's special colour, is it Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: a all Donald Ramesh: special colours, Ernest Wright: kind of colours? Donald Ramesh: fruity colours. Ernest Wright: It's also green John Carmichael: Is it Ernest Wright: or John Carmichael: also Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: no Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: that that's just normal colour fruit colours. Normal Ernest Wright: Yeah, but it's John Carmichael: colours, Ernest Wright: a special John Carmichael: yellow Ernest Wright: colour than just rubber colour. You have to add something to the rubber to make it green. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: You don't say here's green rubber. Donald Ramesh: They don't John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: sell John Carmichael: but then Donald Ramesh: green John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: rubber John Carmichael: d I Donald Ramesh: plants. John Carmichael: don't think we can ever make Donald Ramesh: Alright. John Carmichael: to a twelve and half. Ernest Wright: Yeah, you can, you should you have to lose John Carmichael: But then we have to scrap L_C_D_ display, we have to scrap uh Ernest Wright: No, it is Donald Ramesh: No John Carmichael: s Ernest Wright: the scroll John Carmichael: advanced Donald Ramesh: no no. Ernest Wright: wheel, John Carmichael: chip. Ernest Wright: I guess. John Carmichael: No then we have to scrap everything we got because how many colours we gonna make? Five? Donald Ramesh: If we lose John Carmichael: Then we have Donald Ramesh: the John Carmichael: two. Donald Ramesh: scroll wheel and make it totally uh depending uh dependent on John Carmichael: S Donald Ramesh: uh the Ernest Wright: A Donald Ramesh: touch John Carmichael: touch. Ernest Wright: push, Donald Ramesh: screen Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: then it's possible to make. John Carmichael: Then we Donald Ramesh: And John Carmichael: can make Donald Ramesh: then you John Carmichael: add Donald Ramesh: can John Carmichael: two colours Donald Ramesh: and then you can John Carmichael: on Donald Ramesh: add John Carmichael: it. Donald Ramesh: to the colours. John Carmichael: Yeah, two colours it. Donald Ramesh: Special c Ernest Wright: Switch Donald Ramesh: Okay, Ernest Wright: colours. Donald Ramesh: if you lose uh if you lose Ernest Wright: It Donald Ramesh: the Ernest Wright: was such a great idea. Donald Ramesh: You lose John Carmichael: They can Donald Ramesh: this one, John Carmichael: add Donald Ramesh: you got John Carmichael: two Donald Ramesh: eleven John Carmichael: colours. Donald Ramesh: point five and you make i and then you can make uh the spec single curve, for example. John Carmichael: But the colours. Um how ma uh the colours like l she told, is that all the colours we add or Donald Ramesh: How d uh uh how many Ernest Wright: What Donald Ramesh: colours? Ernest Wright: do you mean? Donald Ramesh: Special colours, all the colours you want, because John Carmichael: Yeah, but Donald Ramesh: you John Carmichael: we Donald Ramesh: want John Carmichael: we Donald Ramesh: to make John Carmichael: we Donald Ramesh: p John Carmichael: are we have yellow, red, uh black, titanium. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, but uh when you use more than one colour, it's a special colour. John Carmichael: Ah Ernest Wright: Oh. John Carmichael: okay. Ernest Wright: But I think Donald Ramesh: I Ernest Wright: when Donald Ramesh: suppose. Ernest Wright: you use the colour that's not originally the rubber then you use special colour, 'cause you have Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: to add John Carmichael: Yeah, but Ernest Wright: it. John Carmichael: the rubbers alls original black. Ernest Wright: Yeah, so you always lose the special colour. You co you could John Carmichael: Yeah Ernest Wright: make John Carmichael: b Ernest Wright: it always black, John Carmichael: Yeah, but Ernest Wright: like John Carmichael: we're Ernest Wright: normal John Carmichael: gonna make Ernest Wright: remote. John Carmichael: it yellow uh red, and then you add you have two special colours on top of the one Donald Ramesh: Nee John Carmichael: we have now. Donald Ramesh: we we also want to make Ernest Wright: Oh right, Donald Ramesh: ano another Ernest Wright: yeah. Donald Ramesh: colour. Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: we John Carmichael: but Ernest Wright: should John Carmichael: m Ernest Wright: u Yeah. We have to make this like four or five John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: or something. John Carmichael: because Ernest Wright: That's what John Carmichael: we have Ernest Wright: it means. John Carmichael: more colours than only black. Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: but isn't it John Carmichael: I Richard Bishop: per John Carmichael: then I think Richard Bishop: remote John Carmichael: I p Richard Bishop: that John Carmichael: I don Richard Bishop: you John Carmichael: I Richard Bishop: pay? John Carmichael: don't think they John Carmichael mean Ernest Wright: Oh right, Richard Bishop: Half? John Carmichael: they're special Ernest Wright: yeah. Is it per remote? Richard Bishop: I think Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: you pay half per remote. Ernest Wright: Yeah, that's right, Richard Bishop: So Ernest Wright: and Richard Bishop: each Ernest Wright: you Richard Bishop: remote Ernest Wright: one colour Richard Bishop: with Ernest Wright: per Richard Bishop: a special Ernest Wright: remote. Richard Bishop: colour. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, indeed, Ernest Wright: So then Donald Ramesh: yeah. Ernest Wright: it is one. Donald Ramesh: You don't need four of those John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: uh John Carmichael: okay Donald Ramesh: four John Carmichael: okay, Donald Ramesh: of John Carmichael: true. Donald Ramesh: those special colours in one John Carmichael: True, Donald Ramesh: in John Carmichael: true. Donald Ramesh: one remote. Ernest Wright: No. Richard Bishop: I John Carmichael: We Richard Bishop: hope. John Carmichael: have two points spare. Richard Bishop: So the John Carmichael: Nee Richard Bishop: battery, John Carmichael: one point. Richard Bishop: we Ernest Wright: One. Richard Bishop: have um advanced chip on print. Ernest Wright: So it would be curved, single curve. Richard Bishop: Because of thing Ernest Wright: Or not? Richard Bishop: Yeah, well Donald Ramesh: Hmm. Richard Bishop: you can at least make it curved again. Ernest Wright: So Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: y Donald Ramesh: single Ernest Wright: you just Donald Ramesh: curve. Ernest Wright: can't make a nice remote. Richard Bishop: Because that was Ernest Wright: It's Richard Bishop: very important, Ernest Wright: too Richard Bishop: huh? Ernest Wright: bad for the speaker. Richard Bishop: So it's curved, it's still that so we we dropped the speech recognition Ernest Wright: Should John Carmichael: Mm Ernest Wright: we Richard Bishop: together Ernest Wright: change John Carmichael: yep. Richard Bishop: with Ernest Wright: that Richard Bishop: the speaker. Ernest Wright: tha that that's a one if not, or Richard Bishop: We Ernest Wright: not? Richard Bishop: dropped the scroll wheel. Ernest Wright: Could you copy it? And Richard Bishop: And Ernest Wright: make Richard Bishop: the rest Ernest Wright: it uh Richard Bishop: is the same, huh? John Carmichael: Y yea the Richard Bishop: Am I right? Yes. John Carmichael: scroll wheel Ernest Wright: The John Carmichael: is Ernest Wright: entire John Carmichael: dropped. Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: Uh. John Carmichael: Yep. Donald Ramesh: Huh. Ernest Wright: Perhaps you can then copy page or so. Ooh. Ernest Wright: No. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: Oh you you made the entire could you Donald Ramesh: Undo, undo. Undo. Ernest Wright: Oh not Well. Donald Ramesh: So, 'kay. Twenty minutes? Ernest Wright: Would you? By the Perhaps you can save this one, and then copy or something. Add it copy page. Select all. Richard Bishop: No, but you c yeah. Ernest Wright: Alright, something went wrong. John Carmichael: Tap. Richard Bishop: Okay, but this this new remote Ernest Wright: It Richard Bishop: we Ernest Wright: doesn't Richard Bishop: can afford. Ernest Wright: work. Let's forget. John Carmichael: It should've work. Donald Ramesh: Okay, so you had this list at start? Richard Bishop: Hmm? Donald Ramesh: Alright. Richard Bishop: No, Donald Ramesh: When Richard Bishop: I hadn't. Donald Ramesh: did you receive this list? Richard Bishop: I just received it. Donald Ramesh: Ah okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Oh ignore Richard Bishop: They Ernest Wright: that. Richard Bishop: don't work so hard at the finance department. Donald Ramesh: Ah okay. I Ernest Wright: Well, so Donald Ramesh: suppose this is a Okay, so Ernest Wright: Too Donald Ramesh: we Ernest Wright: bad. Donald Ramesh: lose the scroll wheel, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: the s Ernest Wright: The microphone. Richard Bishop: Yeah, and that's it. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: And the microphone. Ernest Wright: A and we changed something, I guess, or not? We Oh no. John Carmichael: Yep. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Richard Bishop: Twelve Euro fifty. Um and did you try to make a new design, or what Ernest Wright: Yeah, I tried Richard Bishop: were you trying Ernest Wright: to copy Richard Bishop: to do? Ernest Wright: that one, but it didn't work. Richard Bishop: It didn't work. Ernest Wright: So we could fix it like tha that it's like this. Richard Bishop: Hmm. Strange. Ernest Wright: You could select it all, but then Donald Ramesh: Strange. Ernest Wright: you can't erase. Richard Bishop: Oh, you Donald Ramesh: You Richard Bishop: can Donald Ramesh: can only re Richard Bishop: arrange Donald Ramesh: erase? Ernest Wright: Erase. Donald Ramesh: Oh. Ernest Wright: When you saw th li uh Earlier when we selected it, w Donald Ramesh: Uh, Ernest Wright: I couldn't erase anything. Donald Ramesh: no. Richard Bishop: Hmm, can't you then just say copy? Donald Ramesh: Bling. Richard Bishop: New page. Paste. Yes. Donald Ramesh: Ah. Richard Bishop: Select none. Ernest Wright: Just Donald Ramesh: just John Carmichael: just Donald Ramesh: up Ernest Wright: tap Donald Ramesh: somewhere John Carmichael: tap Donald Ramesh: b uh Ernest Wright: somewhere. John Carmichael: somewhere. Donald Ramesh: besides it, right. Richard Bishop: Okay, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: and now you can erase. Ernest Wright: I don't think I can, but uh we can try. Donald Ramesh: Uh, Richard Bishop: Well Donald Ramesh: we already Richard Bishop: it Donald Ramesh: try. Richard Bishop: should be possible. Ernest Wright: Oh, yeah, no, Richard Bishop: Oh Ernest Wright: ha-ha. Richard Bishop: no. Well John Carmichael: No? Richard Bishop: you can draw over it with white Ernest Wright: Yeah, Richard Bishop: uh Ernest Wright: we Richard Bishop: pen. Ernest Wright: tried it earlier. Richard Bishop: Oh. Ernest Wright: It's very much work. Richard Bishop: Yeah. Sorry. Well but that's also useful for the evaluation, because I think uh we John Carmichael: Evaluation Richard Bishop: have a prototype John Carmichael: drops. Richard Bishop: now which we can afford and uh we only need to draw a little bit to get a good uh design. Doodle. And I think we should then move on to the production evaluation because of the time. John Carmichael: And erase the mic. Ernest Wright: Yeah, goodbye mic. Donald Ramesh: All I need is no mic. Richard Bishop: Let's see, Ernest Wright: Oh, I Richard Bishop: we Ernest Wright: already erased Richard Bishop: can Ernest Wright: half of the line. Richard Bishop: save this now. Donald Ramesh: Bon chance Richard Bishop: And move back to here. Ernest Wright: Too bad, oh. Ernest Wright: Like this? Richard Bishop: Mm-hmm. Ernest Wright: Still looks nice. Richard Bishop: And then all green. Okay, well thank you. Ernest Wright: Oh, John Carmichael: Looks Ernest Wright: that's John Carmichael: like a Ernest Wright: erase. John Carmichael: iPod. Richard Bishop: Oh, no. Donald Ramesh: No, Richard Bishop: Hey, Donald Ramesh: add Richard Bishop: but you can erase that. Ernest Wright: Yeah, that's a bit Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: weird. Richard Bishop: Uh-oh. Ernest Wright: Oh, Donald Ramesh: S Ernest Wright: now Donald Ramesh: Difference Ernest Wright: I'm line. Donald Ramesh: between lines and text and the pen. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Oh. Richard Bishop: Right. John Carmichael: All I need is mic. Richard Bishop: And you can't erase this? Hmm, Ernest Wright: No, Richard Bishop: strange. Ernest Wright: it's weird. Richard Bishop: Okay, well uh just leave it at this and John Carmichael: Station Richard Bishop: quickly save. John Carmichael: page. Richard Bishop: Um Donald Ramesh: Huh, Richard Bishop: and Donald Ramesh: looks Richard Bishop: then Donald Ramesh: fucking Richard Bishop: we Donald Ramesh: boring Richard Bishop: are going Donald Ramesh: now. Richard Bishop: to the project or product evaluation. We just did our project evaluation. Um well, I think I can sit for that since it's almost my final slide. Um what did you think about uh the process? How satisfied are we? Donald Ramesh: Deadlines were sometimes very short. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Mm-hmm. Ernest Wright: Bu but stressful. Donald Ramesh: But Ernest Wright: You think, Donald Ramesh: And Ernest Wright: no, Donald Ramesh: stressful. Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: my presentation isn't ready. John Carmichael: I think we it should be b it would be better if we worked a little bit together. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Now Richard Bishop: Yeah. John Carmichael: we worked through each other, Richard Bishop: And you could Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: something Richard Bishop: ask Ernest Wright: you had information John Carmichael: he Richard Bishop: things. John Carmichael: said Ernest Wright: I didn't John Carmichael: yeah, Ernest Wright: have and John Carmichael: and Ernest Wright: then John Carmichael: you Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: had information I also had, Ernest Wright: Oh John Carmichael: so Ernest Wright: right. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: some some things I had Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: in my presentation, they already told, so Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: And for John Carmichael it sometimes was a surprise who was going to present what, huh? Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: And John Carmichael: So Richard Bishop: uh John Carmichael: yeah, that I don't think that is the best way to work Richard Bishop: Yeah. John Carmichael: at Ernest Wright: No. John Carmichael: for such Richard Bishop: So you would John Carmichael: project. Richard Bishop: say uh communicate during our individual John Carmichael: Yeah, Richard Bishop: uh John Carmichael: no, or Richard Bishop: work. John Carmichael: maybe session of five minutes together or something, and then work Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: separate. Donald Ramesh: but Richard Bishop: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: but why not work here together, Ernest Wright: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: for Ernest Wright: you Donald Ramesh: example? Ernest Wright: could Donald Ramesh: Why should we be separated from each other John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: in those difference uh different John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: rooms? Richard Bishop: Mm-hmm. Well, Ernest Wright: I think Richard Bishop: probably Ernest Wright: so too. Richard Bishop: to simulate the whole working uh Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah, but then you Richard Bishop: process, Ernest Wright: can work Richard Bishop: huh, Ernest Wright: together Richard Bishop: th you Ernest Wright: too when Richard Bishop: can't have a meeting uh for John Carmichael: Yeah m yeah, Richard Bishop: several John Carmichael: like she Richard Bishop: weeks. John Carmichael: told. Then you can work together too by mail or by, I dunno, chat, something, Donald Ramesh: Huh, oh John Carmichael: but now Richard Bishop: No. Donald Ramesh: right. Ernest Wright: A chat John Carmichael: we're Ernest Wright: would also John Carmichael: completely Ernest Wright: be uh John Carmichael: separated from each other. I don't think that was the best way, but Donald Ramesh: But the technology was uh fantastic. John Carmichael: Yeah, the technology's Ernest Wright: Well, John Carmichael: okay. Ernest Wright: I I don't really like the board, it doesn't really work Donald Ramesh: Work Ernest Wright: great. John Carmichael: Yeah Donald Ramesh: now? John Carmichael: okay, but I don Ernest Wright: Sometimes John Carmichael: I do Ernest Wright: I think. John Carmichael: I think becau that's Donald Ramesh: Perhaps John Carmichael: because Donald Ramesh: it is e Ernest Wright: It does work, but sometimes it doesn't erase Donald Ramesh: Yeah, Ernest Wright: or it doesn't Donald Ramesh: perhaps Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: it is easier to get one of those uh dig digital pens or so and John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: to uh and lay it next to that keyboard over Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: there. So you John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: can draw John Carmichael: like Donald Ramesh: uh John Carmichael: the Donald Ramesh: see John Carmichael: f Donald Ramesh: it John Carmichael: like Donald Ramesh: over John Carmichael: a Donald Ramesh: th on the screen. John Carmichael: plotters Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: or Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: something, yeah. Yep yep yep yep yep. Richard Bishop: So Ernest Wright: But Richard Bishop: you don't think the SMARTboard is is really useful or Donald Ramesh: It's Ernest Wright: Well John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: useful, Ernest Wright: it is John Carmichael: it Ernest Wright: useful, John Carmichael: is useful, Donald Ramesh: but not Ernest Wright: but John Carmichael: but Donald Ramesh: m Ernest Wright: it doesn't really work all the John Carmichael: No. Ernest Wright: time. Donald Ramesh: Because Ernest Wright: Th Donald Ramesh: when you Ernest Wright: the Donald Ramesh: put this Ernest Wright: pen Donald Ramesh: pen Ernest Wright: doesn't Donald Ramesh: on the screen uh uh Ernest Wright: The Donald Ramesh: for Ernest Wright: line Donald Ramesh: exam Ernest Wright: is Donald Ramesh: and Ernest Wright: a bit off. Donald Ramesh: line is d being drawn at at two or three centimetres uh below. Richard Bishop: Yeah, so it's maybe a bit unnatural John Carmichael: Yep. Donald Ramesh: Alright. Richard Bishop: also. Ernest Wright: Yeah, you can point to where you want the line to be. But Donald Ramesh: The project uh because of the deadlines you didn't had the time to uh have, you didn't have time to uh to make a very uh qualitati qualitative uh presentation. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: So you used uh this uh the different PowerPoint presentations uh in which you put your uh material in the Oh. Richard Bishop: That wasn't John Carmichael. Uh Donald Ramesh: Wasn't John Carmichael. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: so um the means, we discussed the smart board, and what about uh this digital pen? Ernest Wright: I John Carmichael: I didn't use it at all. Ernest Wright: I I used it, it it was you can use it, it's quite handy Richard Bishop: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: But Ernest Wright: I Donald Ramesh: I Ernest Wright: think. Donald Ramesh: didn't Richard Bishop: well Donald Ramesh: I uh Richard Bishop: I use it as a a normal pen and and and only you use it to uh Ernest Wright: Yeah, I used it to Richard Bishop: get Ernest Wright: y Richard Bishop: it Ernest Wright: to Richard Bishop: on the computer, huh? Ernest Wright: Yeah, it did work Donald Ramesh: I Ernest Wright: pretty Donald Ramesh: used Ernest Wright: well. Donald Ramesh: it too, but oh well. John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: didn't Ernest Wright: I don't think John Carmichael: use. Ernest Wright: why you would want to use it Donald Ramesh: Yeah, John Carmichael: No Donald Ramesh: because Ernest Wright: actually, John Carmichael: yeah. Donald Ramesh: it Ernest Wright: but Donald Ramesh: shou Ernest Wright: it it does work. Donald Ramesh: To Richard Bishop: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: make some John Carmichael: It Donald Ramesh: designs, John Carmichael: is it Donald Ramesh: it John Carmichael: is Donald Ramesh: is John Carmichael: yeah, Donald Ramesh: very John Carmichael: it Donald Ramesh: easy. John Carmichael: is easy for to design something and Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: then load it in your computer. Ernest Wright: Yeah, and then you can show it to everybody. John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: But to write it th yeah. John Carmichael: Yeah. It's Ernest Wright: It doesn't John Carmichael: b Ernest Wright: really John Carmichael: bi Ernest Wright: write John Carmichael: little bit Ernest Wright: normally. John Carmichael: too big to write. Ernest Wright: It's a bit Donald Ramesh: Yeah, it's too big, it's too fat. John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Yeah. John Carmichael: Fat document, those. Richard Bishop: Okay, um and what about the teamwork? John Carmichael: Team work was okay. Ernest Wright: I think it was great, Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: yeah. Richard Bishop: well I think so too. John Carmichael: Only thing Richard Bishop: we John Carmichael: that we worked through, past each other. Donald Ramesh: Right. Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: With some things Richard Bishop: but that John Carmichael: that Richard Bishop: was John Carmichael: was only problem, Ernest Wright: Yeah, John Carmichael: but Ernest Wright: but it Richard Bishop: it Ernest Wright: was Richard Bishop: was Ernest Wright: because Richard Bishop: our assignment, Ernest Wright: we didn't uh Richard Bishop: huh? Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Yeah yeah yeah, but furthermore Richard Bishop: Okay, and maybe I John Carmichael: better. Richard Bishop: should walk out of the room when you discuss uh this point, the leadership. John Carmichael: That's Ernest Wright: I thought it was good, but Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: yeah, Ernest Wright: uh Yeah. John Carmichael: no prob. Ah. Richard Bishop: Yeah well, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: okay. Donald Ramesh: Not too much, not too too too John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: too. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Okay. Richard Bishop: And creativity? Well, when we look at this I'd say we have been creative, huh? But Ernest Wright: Well. Donald Ramesh: Yeah, or the room for it Richard Bishop: There Donald Ramesh: was Richard Bishop: was Donald Ramesh: the idea Richard Bishop: room Donald Ramesh: to Richard Bishop: for Donald Ramesh: be creative, so Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: You got some standard ideas in your head John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Donald Ramesh: and this what came Ernest Wright: And Donald Ramesh: out. Ernest Wright: you get get stuff from the Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: from the computer, but Donald Ramesh: The information uh was sometimes uh a John Carmichael: Little bit uh Donald Ramesh: little John Carmichael: lo Donald Ramesh: bit too late John Carmichael: yeah. Donald Ramesh: or Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Too late it it it Ernest Wright: You just John Carmichael: took Ernest Wright: sit John Carmichael: a lot Ernest Wright: there John Carmichael: of Ernest Wright: for John Carmichael: time Ernest Wright: ten John Carmichael: before Ernest Wright: minutes. John Carmichael: you got your Donald Ramesh: Yeah. John Carmichael: ema yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah, where is that John Carmichael: I played Ernest Wright: email? John Carmichael: I think seven times Solitaire something. Richard Bishop: You did? Well, Ernest Wright: Oh Richard Bishop: I didn't have Ernest Wright: did you? Richard Bishop: time Ernest Wright: Is Richard Bishop: for Ernest Wright: it Richard Bishop: that. Ernest Wright: on there? John Carmichael: Wha Ernest Wright: Is it on there? I didn't find the Richard Bishop: At John Carmichael: Oh Richard Bishop: some Ernest Wright: didn't John Carmichael: right, Richard Bishop: times John Carmichael: it is Richard Bishop: I Ernest Wright: look John Carmichael: there. Ernest Wright: but uh I Richard Bishop: Sometimes Donald Ramesh: Was Richard Bishop: I Donald Ramesh: searching Richard Bishop: received Donald Ramesh: and searching. Richard Bishop: like like five Ernest Wright: didn't Richard Bishop: emails Ernest Wright: look, but Richard Bishop: at at one moment, John Carmichael: No, Richard Bishop: and then John Carmichael: I I never got that. Ernest Wright: I John Carmichael: I Ernest Wright: got like John Carmichael: always Ernest Wright: one email after ten minutes or something. John Carmichael: N yeah. Richard Bishop: I even got spam. Or something like that. Ernest Wright: That's what we John Carmichael: So Ernest Wright: said. John Carmichael: does this I think lik oh and information was a bit low I think, Ernest Wright: And John Carmichael: sometimes, Ernest Wright: it not a lot John Carmichael: in in Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: in in the beginning I didn't understand what what to do. Ernest Wright: No, the Donald Ramesh: No, Ernest Wright: first Donald Ramesh: w Ernest Wright: one. John Carmichael: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: I Ernest Wright: I Donald Ramesh: didn't Ernest Wright: didn't John Carmichael: like Donald Ramesh: know Ernest Wright: know John Carmichael: I Ernest Wright: uh John Carmichael: with with the remote and I never new we have t we had Donald Ramesh: Make John Carmichael: to uh Donald Ramesh: a r yeah. John Carmichael: yeah made Ernest Wright: nee. John Carmichael: a made a rec a remote control. Ernest Wright: And I didn't know what to do for the first ten minutes before John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: we got here, Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: so I John Carmichael: so Ernest Wright: went, right. Donald Ramesh: No stepping on the table and then Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: looking at the internet Richard Bishop: And I Ernest Wright: Just Richard Bishop: was Ernest Wright: looking Donald Ramesh: page. Richard Bishop: working Ernest Wright: at the Richard Bishop: and Ernest Wright: screen Richard Bishop: working Ernest Wright: and Richard Bishop: and work Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: No. Richard Bishop: Okay, John Carmichael: So, yeah. Richard Bishop: well um but after all we can say uh we are satisfied, but it it could've been uh better. John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: When we get uh when we have we would have gotten uh more information. John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Ernest Wright: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: Yeah, more John Carmichael: Faster. Donald Ramesh: information Ernest Wright: an Donald Ramesh: about the costs. John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Yeah, that will be handy. Donald Ramesh: First of all I didn't think uh that we were able to make an L_C_D_ screen uh first point, but uh it Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: was possible uh John Carmichael: Yeah, it only Donald Ramesh: uh, John Carmichael: costs four units. Uh Donald Ramesh: yeah. Ernest Wright: Yea John Carmichael: yeah. Ernest Wright: uh Richard Bishop: Yeah. Ernest Wright: so tha actually you could make an L_C_D_ screen but no mic, or it could make mic but no L_C_D_ Richard Bishop: Yeah, Ernest Wright: screen, Richard Bishop: that Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: was a bit Ernest Wright: when you Richard Bishop: mean Ernest Wright: look at Richard Bishop: to Ernest Wright: that. Richard Bishop: put Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: it in the end. And uh what were the other points to to improve this whole Ernest Wright: Uh, Richard Bishop: process? John Carmichael: Um Ernest Wright: I dunno. John Carmichael: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Think that's about it. John Carmichael: Nothing. Ernest Wright: Hmm. John Carmichael: I think we got it Ernest Wright: Heavier John Carmichael: already. Ernest Wright: um less heavy laptops. Richard Bishop: Yeah, John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Uh. Richard Bishop: they're Donald Ramesh: Faster Richard Bishop: pretty heavy. Donald Ramesh: laptop. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Uh. They Ernest Wright: But Donald Ramesh: were Ernest Wright: that's not Donald Ramesh: they Ernest Wright: really Donald Ramesh: were just John Carmichael: And Ernest Wright: uh Donald Ramesh: fine. John Carmichael: furthermore the the the network was okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Everything Donald Ramesh: Uh. John Carmichael: you loaded was also Ernest Wright: Yeah, everything John Carmichael: av available Ernest Wright: worked. John Carmichael: there. Donald Ramesh: Right. Richard Bishop: And John Carmichael: So Richard Bishop: so more time uh w might have improved the the quality of work, Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Richard Bishop: is what John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: you say. Okay. John Carmichael: Yeah, but that It's now half past four half past three, so Ernest Wright: Yeah, but it's just the the off hours between John Carmichael: Yeah, Ernest Wright: that John Carmichael: okay. Ernest Wright: you will work alone. John Carmichael: Yeah, okay. Ernest Wright: Then it pops up pop up screen came. John Carmichael: Mm-hm. Ernest Wright: Five John Carmichael: Mm. Ernest Wright: minutes in the meeting. John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Mm. Ernest Wright: No. Richard Bishop: Okay, so more time during the individual work phases. Ernest Wright: Huh. Richard Bishop: Um okay well uh I just got my warning for the last five minutes, Ernest Wright: You Richard Bishop: so Ernest Wright: did? Richard Bishop: I'll Ernest Wright: Well Richard Bishop: move on to I guess my last slide, yes, which is the closing. Well uh, we managed, but we did it very quickly. I don't know if that's the best way to when it isn't is it when it is too expensive to quickly re-arrange it Ernest Wright: Oh, Richard Bishop: and say, okay, Ernest Wright: right. Richard Bishop: this is it, but we Ernest Wright: Well Richard Bishop: had to do it, huh, because we have to have a design, and that is within the budget. And we evaluated. Maybe we should re-evaluate uh the product, but we did that before, and we also evaluated the project. And I think uh everybody's uh very happy. At least I am, with the results, so John Carmichael: Yeah. Richard Bishop: uh celebration, Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: well, for the three of you, Ernest Wright: Champagne. Richard Bishop: because uh I have to write the final report now. But uh well, thank you very much for Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: your co-operation, and I had Donald Ramesh: Yeah, sure. Richard Bishop: a very John Carmichael: No prob. Richard Bishop: nice day so far. Donald Ramesh: Oh thank John Carmichael: Mm-hmm. Donald Ramesh: you. Richard Bishop: Okay. Ernest Wright: Do we get another email? Donald Ramesh: Bling. John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: You're fired. John Carmichael: think Richard Bishop: Um John Carmichael: you do. Ernest Wright: I I think we have to fill in a questionnaire again, but Richard Bishop: Yeah I have t I think we also have to go to our own rooms again, but Ernest Wright: We do? Donald Ramesh: Mm. Richard Bishop: um well I at least. But maybe you can try uh to make a screen shot of this, so I can try Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: to include it in the final report. Ernest Wright: Uh th that that one? Donald Ramesh: You cannot you Richard Bishop: Yeah, Donald Ramesh: can save Ernest Wright: You Donald Ramesh: it. Ernest Wright: can Richard Bishop: maybe. Ernest Wright: just Richard Bishop: wants Ernest Wright: Yeah, but it's Richard Bishop: to, Ernest Wright: it Richard Bishop: but Ernest Wright: isn't Richard Bishop: at least Ernest Wright: a picture Richard Bishop: this one. Ernest Wright: or, well, is Richard Bishop: I Ernest Wright: it? Richard Bishop: know, Donald Ramesh: You s Richard Bishop: we Donald Ramesh: uh Richard Bishop: should remove Donald Ramesh: file Richard Bishop: this, Donald Ramesh: save Richard Bishop: but it won't Donald Ramesh: as the Richard Bishop: h Donald Ramesh: J_ PEG Richard Bishop: Okay. Donald Ramesh: J_ PEG. Richard Bishop: And uh please put it in the project folder then, huh. John Carmichael: Can you find it as a J_ PEG? Donald Ramesh: No. Ernest Wright: No, isn't possible. But you can make a screen shot, I think. Richard Bishop: Okay, well I uh John Carmichael: No. Donald Ramesh: No. Richard Bishop: I hereby officially close the meeting Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Richard Bishop: and uh I hope to see you uh soon. John Carmichael: In Donald Ramesh: In Ernest Wright: Uh Donald Ramesh: about five Ernest Wright: oh, Donald Ramesh: minutes. John Carmichael: uh Ernest Wright: export. Richard Bishop: Well, I think we'll be a bit a Donald Ramesh: Ah. Richard Bishop: bit longer, but okay. Well, happy celebration, huh? Donald Ramesh: Oh thank you. Ernest Wright: Images. Donald Ramesh: Whoo-hoo. Let's John Carmichael: Celebra Donald Ramesh: let's have party. John Carmichael: Or Ernest Wright: How big do you want Donald Ramesh: Let's Ernest Wright: the images? Donald Ramesh: have some fun. John Carmichael: shouldn't I? Richard Bishop: How big? Donald Ramesh: Huh? Ernest Wright: Yeah. Richard Bishop: Uh not too big. Ernest Wright: This one? John Carmichael: Six Richard Bishop: Whatever John Carmichael: hundred. Richard Bishop: you think John Carmichael: No, Richard Bishop: is good. John Carmichael: I yeah. Donald Ramesh: No that uh is one John Carmichael: I Donald Ramesh: thousand John Carmichael: think Donald Ramesh: twenty John Carmichael: eight hundred Donald Ramesh: four. John Carmichael: six hundred is better. Ernest Wright: This one? John Carmichael: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. If it browse. John Carmichael: Nah, name. Ernest Wright: Um Donald Ramesh: Desktop. Ernest Wright: Well it isn't on the desktop. John Carmichael: Hey. Donald Ramesh: Mm? I do not know. Ernest Wright: You can only save it in my documents. Donald Ramesh: Oh? John Carmichael: Oh my God. Donald Ramesh: Yeah. Ernest Wright: Oh. Oh, alright. Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Yeah. Three. Can John Carmichael: Ten. Ernest Wright: we stay here? John Carmichael: Yeah. Ten. Ernest Wright: Yeah. John Carmichael: Uh. Donald Ramesh: Okay. Ernest Wright: Yeah, alright. Why can't we stay here? Donald Ramesh: Alright. Ernest Wright: Yeah. Donald Ramesh: Oh. John Carmichael: Celebration time, come on. Donald Ramesh: Oh. John Carmichael: Peace out nigger. Entree

Richard Bishop opened the meeting and then Ernest Wright and industrial designer presented their prototype for the remote which featured an LCD screen, a scroll button, and a battery indicator. John Carmichael conducted a project evaluation of the prototype. The team found the remote to be fancy, innovative, fairly easy to use, available in different colors, fairly spongy, difficult to misplace, and targeted to younger people. Richard Bishop then led the team in calculating the production costs of their remote. The team had difficulty in meeting the the target cost and had to eliminate some of the more expensive components they had hoped to include in their design. Richard Bishop then led the team in an evaluation of the project process. The team found the project stressful, the equipment useful, the information available to them lacking, and their laptops to be slow and heavy.

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Thomas Morasca: Mm uh. Andrew Westfall: We're Thomas Morasca: Mm. Andrew Westfall: the first. Thomas Morasca: We're first. Andrew Westfall: Marketing Expert yes, Charles Slaybaugh: Mm. Charles Slaybaugh: So you found your spots. Andrew Westfall: Yes. Thomas Morasca: Move Andrew Westfall: Bling Thomas Morasca: to the Andrew Westfall: bling. Thomas Morasca: meeting room. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Right. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Uh where has my screen gone? William Collins: Hi. Thomas Morasca: Hello, good day. William Collins: Oh yeah, Andrew Westfall: Hmm. William Collins: we have to talk in, huh. Thomas Morasca: Yep. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. My screen is gone. Oh. Charles Slaybaugh: It's called black. Thomas Morasca: Kick-off meeting, wow. William Collins: I'm Thomas Morasca: It's uh William Collins: afraid Thomas Morasca: looks William Collins: I'm a Thomas Morasca: uh William Collins: bit Thomas Morasca: nice. William Collins: slow for this stuff uh. Thomas Morasca: Hmm? Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. William Collins: I'm afraid I'm a bit too slow. I don't know how much preparation you guys Thomas Morasca: Yeah. William Collins: did, but not Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: a lot. Thomas Morasca: No, it's it was uh Charles Slaybaugh: You Thomas Morasca: not enough. Charles Slaybaugh: see this beautiful presentation. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Very Charles Slaybaugh: Okay Andrew Westfall: nice. Charles Slaybaugh: let's get started. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh I sort of prepared this. Uh opening acquaintance, tool training, uh how to use the things here. Andrew Westfall: Mm. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh project plan discussion, and yeah then the rest of the meeting. William Collins: Mm-hmm. Charles Slaybaugh: Um we're supposed to develop a new remote control, that's both original, trendy and user-friendly. So, hope you have good ideas. I don't. Thomas Morasca: I did my best. William Collins: Not Charles Slaybaugh: we're William Collins: yet. Charles Slaybaugh: work we're working uh from top to bottom. Uh functional design, then we do some in individual work, then we have a meeting to discuss the results, etcetera etcetera. And at the end of the day we should have a prototype drawn up. Uh we have available the smart board and the whiteboard. Um uh we should take some practice. I have some instructions now to do that. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh well you know how to the documents work. So Uh this for toolbar. You see it next. Um we have a pen. And we can use this pen to perform. William Collins: Operations. Charles Slaybaugh: Yes. So It doesn't always work. Yes. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay so you can draw. Andrew Westfall: Draw. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay Andrew Westfall: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: and in the format menu you can select colour and line width, etcetera etcetera. Andrew Westfall: 'Kay. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay? Uh Okay. Each of you can uh take some practice and you should draw an animal. Uh you should explain Uh with different colours and with different pen widths. And you should explain why you draw that particular animal. So, Julian. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Don't take up too much space. Thomas Morasca: Um yeah. William Collins: Different pen widths, how do you do that? Charles Slaybaugh: Uh with the format menu. William Collins: Oh okay. Charles Slaybaugh: And use different colours etcetera. William Collins: Are Charles Slaybaugh: And William Collins: you serious? Charles Slaybaugh: what's that supposed to be? Thomas Morasca: It's a Andrew Westfall: Should it Thomas Morasca: giraffe. Andrew Westfall: be one Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Oh yeah. Oh yeah four legs. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh-huh. Andrew Westfall: Giraffe's yellow. Thomas Morasca: Uh it needs some uh some yellow uh Oh format. Andrew Westfall: Can you use one blank sheet per drawing? Or Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: y you must save it at the end and then Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah you can press the next button, which is uh yeah. Thomas Morasca: That's some spots. Charles Slaybaugh: I'll show William Collins: I Charles Slaybaugh: you. William Collins: in the file option menu. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. In file menu. Andrew Westfall: Okay, then m make a new one. William Collins: How much time do we have to draw anyway? 'Cause I can Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: take forever on this. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Do I have to explain uh why I chose this uh this animal? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: I think it's a it's a great animal. Charles Slaybaugh: What is it? Thomas Morasca: It's a it's a giraffe. Charles Slaybaugh: A giraffe okay. Thomas Morasca: Yeah, Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah Thomas Morasca: that's Charles Slaybaugh: I see Thomas Morasca: a Charles Slaybaugh: a long neck but Andrew Westfall: It's more like a dinosaur. Thomas Morasca: Um Okay I'll will give it an uh an eye. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Uh. Charles Slaybaugh: That's nice of you. Thomas Morasca: Hey. Come on. Andrew Westfall: Some leaf to eat. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Yeah pretty good. Uh could you press the next uh Thomas Morasca: The next? Yes. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Then Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: uh. Thomas Morasca: Here you go. Andrew Westfall: Thanks. Thomas Morasca: Hmm. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: Is this part of our a acquai or introduction Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah William Collins: to each Charles Slaybaugh: sorry, William Collins: other? Charles Slaybaugh: introduction Andrew Westfall: Uh Charles Slaybaugh: and get acquainted and William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: That's the idea, so William Collins: Uh. Your line broke. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Alright. It's Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah Andrew Westfall: not Charles Slaybaugh: it's Andrew Westfall: that Charles Slaybaugh: a bit Andrew Westfall: fast. Charles Slaybaugh: slow, so Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: I see. It misses the spot. Charles Slaybaugh: pressure. William Collins: I'm guessing a turtle. No. I'm kidding. Andrew Westfall: I say good guess. Uh Charles Slaybaugh: Why a turtle? William Collins: Because of its shell. Andrew Westfall: Because it's slow. Charles Slaybaugh: It's Thomas Morasca: 'Cause Charles Slaybaugh: slow. Thomas Morasca: it's so 'cause it's Charles Slaybaugh: You Thomas Morasca: green. Charles Slaybaugh: were slow too so Andrew Westfall: Yeah I was a bit slow too. William Collins: Dude you're Andrew Westfall: So William Collins: a good drawer. Andrew Westfall: Uh some other line uh width uh William Collins: Do you have a turtle pet? Andrew Westfall: No. William Collins: Uh okay. Andrew Westfall: I dunno. Does it have legs? William Collins: Yeah yeah Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah William Collins: yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: sure. Andrew Westfall: Yeah? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah not exactly legs but William Collins: Stumpy Charles Slaybaugh: More William Collins: stuff. Charles Slaybaugh: like fins or Andrew Westfall: It's more like a tank. Yeah that's fins but I don't William Collins: They Andrew Westfall: know William Collins: kind Andrew Westfall: where. William Collins: of l look like mole legs. With sharp nails Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: on. Andrew Westfall: Some spots. Ah some eye. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah it's l looks Andrew Westfall: Yeah Charles Slaybaugh: very friendly. Andrew Westfall: that's a fr friendly turtle I guess. Yeah well I think it's uh fair enough. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah okay. William Collins: A little tail maybe. Andrew Westfall: Right. I don't know what the position is. Does it have ears? William Collins: Uh no. Charles Slaybaugh: No. Andrew Westfall: No. Thomas Morasca: No. Andrew Westfall: Oh okay. William Collins: The little holes Andrew Westfall: Can you William Collins: maybe. Andrew Westfall: erase ears or Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah yeah yeah. Andrew Westfall: Yeah? Charles Slaybaugh: There's a a gum, Andrew Westfall: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: gum Andrew Westfall: Eraser. Charles Slaybaugh: to. William Collins: And Andrew Westfall: So William Collins: why did you choose this animal? Charles Slaybaugh: He Andrew Westfall: I Charles Slaybaugh: said Andrew Westfall: dunno. Charles Slaybaugh: it was slow. Andrew Westfall: I it just came into my mind. So William Collins: Alright. Andrew Westfall: there's no particular reason I pen. Charles Slaybaugh: I like it. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Well I'm guess I'm done. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: That's my turtle. Charles Slaybaugh: Your turn William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: Niels. Andrew Westfall: How to select the next or Charles Slaybaugh: The next Andrew Westfall: here. Charles Slaybaugh: yeah. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Here you go. Charles Slaybaugh: Makes new William Collins: Colours Charles Slaybaugh: paper. William Collins: were under format right? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: Let's see. Charles Slaybaugh: Orange. William Collins: How am I gonna do this? Um William Collins: Mm uh. Thomas Morasca: A rabbit I Charles Slaybaugh: Kangaroo. Thomas Morasca: think. Kangaroo. William Collins: Not quite actually. Thomas Morasca: Fox. Andrew Westfall: A fox yeah. Firefox. Charles Slaybaugh: Dog. William Collins: No. Charles Slaybaugh: Cat. William Collins: Aye. Charles Slaybaugh: It's a cat. William Collins: It's a cat. Thomas Morasca: Mm. William Collins: Not Andrew Westfall: A cat William Collins: quite Andrew Westfall: who William Collins: yet Andrew Westfall: had an William Collins: through. Andrew Westfall: accident or Charles Slaybaugh: Why a cat? William Collins: Uh yeah I dunno. They're my favourite pets. Charles Slaybaugh: You have some uh? William Collins: Uh I have colour already. Yeah I'm not so good at drawing with this kind of st Oh shit. Um Charles Slaybaugh: The pen, yeah. William Collins: Excuse my language. Charles Slaybaugh: Sure. William Collins: I don't know how to draw its face. But you get the idea. It's Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: a cat. It's Charles Slaybaugh: Alright. William Collins: my favourite uh pet animal, 'cause they're cute, they're independent and cuddly, I dunno. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. William Collins: That's it. Or do I Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: need to use more colours and Charles Slaybaugh: I think it's okay. William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: You get idea William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: right? Okay um we have a financial aspect to this project. Um we can sell them at twenty five Euros. Uh the aim is to reach uh uh to sell as much as fifty million Euros. Uh that's quite a big amount of money. And the production cost should be the half of the selling price. William Collins: So we have Charles Slaybaugh: Okay William Collins: to s Charles Slaybaugh: now it's time for some discussion. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh Thomas Morasca: What uh what uh do you want to discuss? William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. We should get started. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Yep. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh I'm taking notes. Andrew Westfall: Okay. Great. Charles Slaybaugh: Um we each have a specific task, as I saw in my mail. William Collins: Mm-hmm. Charles Slaybaugh: I Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: didn't know if you received the same mail. Yeah? Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: I guess so. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: so the um uh this industrati Industrial Designer should produce a working design. Am I correct? William Collins: True. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Uh Thomas Morasca should specify the technical functions. Right? Thomas Morasca: Yep. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah? And the Marketing uh Expert should come up with user requirements. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh did any of you already do some work on this part or William Collins: Well I started making an overview for myself, um what I had to do, 'cause we have three design steps and in every step I have Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: a s specific task to perform or whatever. Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: So I had to uh, I dunno, make an overview for myself about Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: what I have to do, and kind of let it work in to get ideas about Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. And William Collins: well how Charles Slaybaugh: do you William Collins: I Charles Slaybaugh: have William Collins: have to fill Charles Slaybaugh: any William Collins: it. Charles Slaybaugh: ideas about the product William Collins: Well I started Charles Slaybaugh: uh so far? William Collins: I started with the first phase, I think was the functional. Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: And uh let's see I had to focus on the working design, which Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: you said. How does the apparatus work? And well I basically had two points. Uh according to the coffee uh machine example, Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: I have batteries to supply energy, and we ye use button presses to activate or deactivate certain functions on Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: the T_V_. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. William Collins: And that's basically all I have so far. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah I got another point. It uses infrared light Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: to communicate Thomas Morasca: Wireless Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: the Thomas Morasca: uh Charles Slaybaugh: signal Thomas Morasca: huh. Charles Slaybaugh: to Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: the William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: T_V_ apparatus or stereo. William Collins: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: So that's very common. Thomas Morasca: Uh it's uh some buttons for for the on off function. You d you already told that. And for the changing up to the to all the channels and changing the volume. That William Collins: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: are the the basic options for a remote control. William Collins: Yeah I kept it global 'cause that it activates or deactivates specific functions, 'cause Thomas Morasca: Okay, William Collins: I wasn't Thomas Morasca: yeah. William Collins: thinking yet about that. I mean, you wanna ch ch flip Thomas Morasca: Yeah. William Collins: the channel but you might wanna use teletext also. Thomas Morasca: Yep. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: I dunno what the word is in English. Uh Charles Slaybaugh: Same I believe. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh and what did Andrew Westfall do? Andrew Westfall: Uh well from a marketing uh perspective, um well the function des design phase uh consists out of the user requirements. Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: Um what needs and desires are to be fulfilled? So there are a few means to reach that um by by doing research Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: uh to see what existing products are there out in the market. I mean, what functions do they Charles Slaybaugh: Mm. Andrew Westfall: have. Um especially what are their shortcomings? Are there any Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: new functions uh which can be added to our Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: product? Um therefore we have to to do some internet search. Charles Slaybaugh: Yep. Andrew Westfall: For example for um well what kind of applications do current remote controls support, and what are f featur features of uh current and future televisions? Charles Slaybaugh: Yes. Andrew Westfall: So we can see uh what needs to be supported. Um and we can interview current users and future users. What w what would Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: they like to see uh on a new remote control? Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Um especially for future users, uh I'm thinking of early adopters, because they they use new technology first, Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: and they play with a lot of tools and stuff so maybe they have some good ideas to uh Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: to add. Charles Slaybaugh: And you can get that information? Andrew Westfall: I think I can get that information, yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. That Andrew Westfall: So Charles Slaybaugh: would be very handy. Andrew Westfall: yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Um but have you any idea so far as what uh the user requirements are? Andrew Westfall: No n not specifically. More Charles Slaybaugh: No? Andrew Westfall: to how to get them and Charles Slaybaugh: No Thomas Morasca: I Charles Slaybaugh: okay. Thomas Morasca: got some uh requirements it has Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah? Andrew Westfall: Yeah? Thomas Morasca: uh it has to be user-friendly. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Of course. William Collins: Obviously. Thomas Morasca: Uh really easy to use buttons, not not uh very small buttons, but not the the also the big big buttons, but just normal buttons. It has to be a small unit. It has to be uh yeah, you can take it with you uh everywhere in in your house. So it has n has not to be l yeah, gigantic uh Charles Slaybaugh: Big, Thomas Morasca: machine. Charles Slaybaugh: mm-hmm. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Uh and a and a good uh zapping range. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh what do you mean by that? Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Uh the distance uh from your television to your uh remote control has to be, uh yeah um yeah, quite a big distance. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: It has to be capable for zapping uh Andrew Westfall: From the other end of the Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: room or something? Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay um Well I don't think I have anything more to add at the moment. Um I think the best is to go to work. William Collins: Whoa. Is that you or Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: alright. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Any more points to discuss? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. I think we can go ahead with what we have. I will summarise the things we discussed and put it in the project folder. Uh the use of William Collins can work on the working design, etcetera etcetera. And it seems you get more information by email. Andrew Westfall: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: So William Collins: Alright. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: that was it for Andrew Westfall. Andrew Westfall: 'Kay. Thanks. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh Thomas Morasca: Are you going to put the the notes on the Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah, Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: in the project Andrew Westfall: The pro Charles Slaybaugh: folder. Andrew Westfall: okay. Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: I'm writing very fast. Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: Hope it's readable. Andrew Westfall: Uh. Thomas Morasca: Yep. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay Andrew Westfall: I guess Charles Slaybaugh: um Andrew Westfall: so. Charles Slaybaugh: anything more you want to add to the discussion? William Collins: Well no I'm just a bit wondering what we're gonna do the next uh Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Do we only have William Collins: session? Thomas Morasca: to to do uh phase one, the functional design uh? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Because then we have a Thomas Morasca: After that we are going to the conceptual uh Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. We're just Charles Slaybaugh: Y Andrew Westfall: working Charles Slaybaugh: you Andrew Westfall: the three Charles Slaybaugh: do some Andrew Westfall: phases. Charles Slaybaugh: individual work, we have meeting, individual work, meeting. And at the end of the day we have a final meeting. And then I have to prepare uh I have to defend our design, so make it good. William Collins: Yeah Andrew Westfall: Okay. William Collins: okay. We'll do our Thomas Morasca: Okay. William Collins: best. Charles Slaybaugh: I Andrew Westfall: Better Charles Slaybaugh: depend Andrew Westfall: make it Charles Slaybaugh: on you. William Collins: I am gonna work on the conceptual design already 'cause Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah? William Collins: yeah it's Charles Slaybaugh: If William Collins: fairly Charles Slaybaugh: you can mix William Collins: important Charles Slaybaugh: it it's okay. William Collins: to know what kind of components we want Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: to put in. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: Do we I mean, is it gonna be a multimedia control centre? Do we want to be able to use the video recorder Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: with it? Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: That is my question also because like Charles Slaybaugh: Well Andrew Westfall: new Charles Slaybaugh: I Andrew Westfall: new Charles Slaybaugh: think Andrew Westfall: functions Charles Slaybaugh: that is the user Andrew Westfall: Requirements. Charles Slaybaugh: requirements part. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: As to what William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: they want. William Collins: True. Charles Slaybaugh: Uh do they want all those functions on Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: that small William Collins: But but we Andrew Westfall: Unit. William Collins: need good communication Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: about this stuff, 'cause I have to f put the components into the design. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. Thomas Morasca: I would William Collins: So Thomas Morasca: first William Collins: if Thomas Morasca: m William Collins: I don't know what Andrew Westfall: Yeah William Collins: components Andrew Westfall: well William Collins: to put in, Andrew Westfall: I I was Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah William Collins: it's kind Thomas Morasca: Yeah. William Collins: of Charles Slaybaugh: I William Collins: hard. Charles Slaybaugh: understand. Thomas Morasca: I I think we have first to start with the basic functions Andrew Westfall: Yeah Thomas Morasca: and we can uh Andrew Westfall: well Charles Slaybaugh: You Thomas Morasca: expand Charles Slaybaugh: can Andrew Westfall: like Charles Slaybaugh: always Andrew Westfall: l Thomas Morasca: them. Charles Slaybaugh: add Andrew Westfall: li Charles Slaybaugh: a Andrew Westfall: like Charles Slaybaugh: few Andrew Westfall: some Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: like some some remotes who are out there, which I know, there's one button which is very easy to switch between devices. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: So you can switch to your video and Charles Slaybaugh: Hmm, Andrew Westfall: then Charles Slaybaugh: the Andrew Westfall: the same Charles Slaybaugh: C_D_ Andrew Westfall: buttons Charles Slaybaugh: player. Andrew Westfall: control your video. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: And another function I'll think of switch to your media centre, because that's getting very popular. William Collins: Yeah Andrew Westfall: And William Collins: so Andrew Westfall: then use your Windows media centre under your T_V_ with the same remote control. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: So William Collins: Okay. Andrew Westfall: with the switch, one single switch William Collins: Yeah Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. William Collins: I I know what you mean, but you'll ne need several other buttons for a video Andrew Westfall: S William Collins: player. You need a play Charles Slaybaugh: Mm-hmm. William Collins: and a forw fast forward and a stop Andrew Westfall: Yeah William Collins: function. Andrew Westfall: records William Collins: And Andrew Westfall: and Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. William Collins: you Andrew Westfall: stuff William Collins: you Andrew Westfall: like William Collins: don't Andrew Westfall: that. William Collins: need that for a T_V_. Andrew Westfall: No. William Collins: And and for a t uh teletext Charles Slaybaugh: You need additional William Collins: you need Charles Slaybaugh: yeah. Thomas Morasca: Yeah. William Collins: additional buttons as well, so Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: I kind of need Charles Slaybaugh: Uh William Collins: to know what we uh need. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: Whatever, I'll just put my ideas in uh Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. William Collins: in here and then we can Andrew Westfall: In William Collins: discuss Andrew Westfall: the project William Collins: it Andrew Westfall: uh William Collins: with the next uh Andrew Westfall: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. We could just start with the assumption William Collins: meeting. Charles Slaybaugh: that's only for T_V_ and video. And um reserve the possibility to add William Collins: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: other features. So William Collins: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: we have a basic starting point and you can always extend that so make sure it's extendible. Thomas Morasca: Yeah Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: it it has yeah it has to be user-friendly. So it's hasn't it's yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Th the least amount of Thomas Morasca: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: functions possible so it's Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: easier to get to know William Collins: Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: how it Thomas Morasca: Yeah. William Collins: I Charles Slaybaugh: works etcetera. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: understand. Yeah. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah? Okay William Collins: Alright. Andrew Westfall: Yes. Charles Slaybaugh: and uh I'll see you again uh when the computer tells us to. William Collins: Yeah. Thomas Morasca: Can we Andrew Westfall: Half Thomas Morasca: leave now Andrew Westfall: an hour. Thomas Morasca: or Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah, you're di dismissed. William Collins: Thanks. Andrew Westfall: You're fired. Charles Slaybaugh: Not yet. Andrew Westfall: No. Thomas Morasca: Mm. William Collins: Alright. Charles Slaybaugh: Okay. Andrew Westfall: Alright let's move on. Charles Slaybaugh: Let's see what we got to do. Andrew Westfall: Yeah. William Collins: See you later. Andrew Westfall: Yeah Thomas Morasca: Okay. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Andrew Westfall: see you later. Thomas Morasca: Good luck. Charles Slaybaugh: Yeah. Thank you. Andrew Westfall: Well good luck. William Collins: What the

When the meeting begins Charles Slaybaugh lists the agenda and then describes the project, which is to develop a new remote control that is original, trendy, and user-friendly. The group practices using the smart board by choosing an animal to draw and then explaining why they picked it. Charles Slaybaugh goes over the product budget and they proceed to have discussion. They each identify their individual tasks during each phase based on their role in the group. They briefly discuss characteristics of a desirable remote, including medium size buttons, small unit, and work within a good zapping range. The team again discusses their individual responsibilities and move on to ponder whether the remote will be multifunctional or only for the TV. They decide to first assume it is only for TV and video, but allowing the possibility to add more features. They close the meeting upon establishing what each person will do.

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James Bentz: Hello. 'Kay. Francis Torres: You David Conley: It's Francis Torres: all saw the newsflash? Or you got the same Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: message? Kevin Smith: I I just saw it one minute ago David Conley: I don't Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: When. David Conley: know. Kevin Smith: I Francis Torres: sorry. Kevin Smith: uh David Conley: I didn't it yet I think. James Bentz: Newsflash? D Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: did I miss something? Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: I received Kevin Smith: pretty much. Francis Torres: an email so I thought I I can't mail you so I thought I'd just drop it in the David Conley: Hey what's Francis Torres: folder, David Conley: wrong with my Francis Torres: but David Conley: computer? James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: Is it unlocked? Kevin Smith: Mm. James Bentz: No. Kevin Smith: Yeah that's my presentation. Francis Torres: Woah. I uh David Conley: Huh? James Bentz: Mm. Francis Torres: kind of opened it. Kevin Smith: Mm? David Conley: What the Kevin Smith: Oh Francis Torres: Uh Kevin Smith: right. James Bentz: I think you have to uh change Francis Torres: Okay. James Bentz: your desktop uh size. Kevin Smith: Ooh. Francis Torres: 'Kay. Everybody ready? David Conley: Not Kevin Smith: Well David Conley: really. Sorry. Francis Torres: No James Bentz: computer Francis Torres: no James Bentz: is Francis Torres: no. James Bentz: uh not functioning? Francis Torres: Yes yes yes. Kevin Smith: Alright. David Conley: Okay. Where Francis Torres: Okay. David Conley: do I find this? I'm not so g display huh? James Bentz: Uh display. And then uh David Conley: Appearance? James Bentz: settings? Kevin Smith: Huh. James Bentz: Mm I'm not sure Kevin Smith: You James Bentz: I. Kevin Smith: read the newsflash? James Bentz: No. Francis Torres: 'Kay. David Conley: No what Kevin Smith: Hmm. David Conley: was Francis Torres: Can David Conley: it Francis Torres: we David Conley: about? Francis Torres: get started or is there some pressing David Conley: Yeah my computer is Francis Torres: issue? David Conley: not functioning properly. Francis Torres: Oh no pressing. Did you plug in the power cable when you come back? David Conley: Yeah yeah. No but my screen is reduced in size. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: What? Francis Torres: That's difficult. Yeah. David Conley: Yeah. Feedback. Kevin Smith: Hmm. James Bentz: Okay. David Conley: Okay. Kevin Smith: alt delete. Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: Format. Francis Torres: Format save. Kevin Smith: So it doesn't draw the attention away. David Conley: This is Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: dreadful. James Bentz: I made uh uh my own map. David Conley: No not Francis Torres: Oh David Conley: this, Francis Torres: yeah David Conley: but James Bentz: It's Francis Torres: sure. James Bentz: a David Conley: the task. Francis Torres: You have Playstation also? James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: No. okay. No I just flapped it, closed it, took it here and then this happened. David Conley: Ah. Uh where was it? In settings? Okay. Alright. Thank you. Francis Torres: Huh. David Conley: Do you guys like your tasks? James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: I spent a lot of time thinking about what I was gonna do James Bentz: Yeah David Conley: and then James Bentz: wa wa you actually David Conley: a couple of minutes before this I get my function you know James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: the information that I need. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: So James Bentz: But David Conley: frustrating. James Bentz: it's not clear what you have to David Conley: So James Bentz: to to type Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: uh Kevin Smith: I I James Bentz: type Kevin Smith: had James Bentz: in your Kevin Smith: a whole James Bentz: presentation. Kevin Smith: idea and then just David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: was typing it and oh. I to do that so David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: switch. David Conley: exactly. This presentation is mainly based on my own ideas 'cause I hadn't time to intergrate tha the information yet Kevin Smith: Mm. David Conley: so James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: Really annoying. Francis Torres: Okay. So there we are again. Kevin Smith: By your humble P_M_. Francis Torres: Yeah. Okay this is the agenda. Um we have three presentations, I heard. James Bentz: Really. Francis Torres: Yeah really. So who wants to start? Kevin Smith: Yeah that's fine. David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: We have to start it right away? Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Functional? Francis Torres: Uh this is you? Kevin Smith: Yeah functional requirements. Francis Torres: 'Kay. Kevin Smith: Alright. I'm gonna talk about functional requirements. Um Well uh some research has be done uh has been done. Uh observing of one hundred uh subjects in the usability lab using a remote control. Uh and they also filled in a questionnaire. The findings were um, well you can see them for yourself. They disliked the look-and-feel of current remotes controls. Users think they're ugly. Um they do not match the the operating behaviour of the users. So they they d they don't match what they want to have on it. Um they are often lost somewhere in the room. Um it takes too much time to learn how to use a new remote control. And they're bad for R_S_I_. I don't know uh how a user can reach that but okay. Um David Conley: Ts Kevin Smith: there is also uh was also some research on uh the most relevant and and and irrelevant uh f functions. Uh most irrelevant and less used were audio settings, mono, stereo, uh pitch, bass. Um screen settings for brightness and colour and stuff like that. Um but they are used. I mean the David Conley: So they do need to be in the Kevin Smith: Yeah they Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: do need to be on the on the remote control. I David Conley: Alright. Kevin Smith: mean if you can't control the the sound settings I mean if you dislike a very uh loud bass or something, you you need to change that. So um Francis Torres: often. David Conley: By Kevin Smith: yeah David Conley: the way my Kevin Smith: we have David Conley: T_V_ Kevin Smith: to. We David Conley: doesn't Kevin Smith: c we c David Conley: have an equ equaliser Kevin Smith: Yeah David Conley: but Kevin Smith: I mean w David Conley: okay. Kevin Smith: we can't Francis Torres: Next Kevin Smith: my my Francis Torres: generation Kevin Smith: T_V_ has, Francis Torres: does. David Conley: No. Kevin Smith: but David Conley: Alright. Kevin Smith: we we can leave them uh away. Uh most relevant, uh most used functions, uh they speak for themselves I guess. Uh power button, uh channel, volume selection. Uh teletext but we can skip that because I saw the newsflash, and teletext is so outdated that it it's i Francis Torres: N not Kevin Smith: should Francis Torres: used Kevin Smith: not Francis Torres: anymore. Kevin Smith: be used uh any more in the future. So forget this one. James Bentz: Okay. Kevin Smith: Uh channel settings, so for programming uh your channels in in the David Conley: By Kevin Smith: right Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: the Kevin Smith: order. David Conley: way where did you guys get that newsflash James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: from? I Kevin Smith: Yeah, David Conley: didn't Kevin Smith: on David Conley: get James Bentz: I David Conley: anything. James Bentz: was wondering Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: on James Bentz: uh Kevin Smith: the project uh Francis Torres: Not by mail. I receiv the mail but you don't. So Kevin Smith: No James Bentz: But you Kevin Smith: so it's James Bentz: you've Kevin Smith: a text James Bentz: got more Kevin Smith: file James Bentz: information Kevin Smith: n in the project James Bentz: than Kevin Smith: folder. So teletext James Bentz: uh. Kevin Smith: can be skipped. Francis Torres: That's in the presentation, so David Conley: Alright. Kevin Smith: Um there was some research on new features in a remote control. Uh about an L_C_D_ screen uh and speech recognition. Well we got an update for the for the audience. Or the the the targeted group. So it's above forty I guess. Francis Torres: Uh Kevin Smith: The Francis Torres: below Kevin Smith: new product? Francis Torres: I believe. Kevin Smith: Or below Francis Torres: Yeah below forty. Kevin Smith: because that's pretty relevant. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: I thought I read Francis Torres: Our Kevin Smith: a Francis Torres: current customers are in the age group forty plus. Kevin Smith: Yeah? Francis Torres: And the new product should reach new markets, which is Kevin Smith: Below? Francis Torres: the customers below forty. Kevin Smith: Okay well James Bentz: But where did you get Kevin Smith: that's James Bentz: uh Francis Torres: That's James Bentz: that Francis Torres: in James Bentz: information? Francis Torres: a newsflash. Kevin Smith: that's in the newsfla okay James Bentz: Okay. Kevin Smith: that's a good to know. Um because you see see James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: a clear distinction between the age groups, concerning the features. I mean uh above forty people are not so interested uh not so interested in a screen or speech recognition. Uh but below that age they uh they pretty much are. So I think we can build that in. Um Yeah well we can skip this part as well, because I thought I read above forty so we could skip the features, but we just have to build them in because uh they find it very interesting. Um well we have to keep all the classic functions but make the buttons as user-friendly as possible. Um and and also there's so not only the design of the bus uh buttons but o how you can push them, and stuff like that. So the physical uh aspect of it. Um And I think and certainly for for the for the lower age groups, uh nice design, which uh does not make the remote control in your room. It's it's James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: actually a part of your interior, of of your design in your room. So it's the people can say, well what's that, well that's my remote control, so it's d Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: it has to look nice and feel nice, and and have all the functions Francis Torres: But Kevin Smith: that Francis Torres: it also Kevin Smith: uh Francis Torres: needs to have corporate identity. Kevin Smith: Yeah so the the logo has to be uh Francis Torres: Present and the colours. Kevin Smith: present yeah, and the colours as well. Francis Torres: So we can't change much of that. David Conley: Do we have Kevin Smith: Yeah David Conley: uh Kevin Smith: so David Conley: yeah. Kevin Smith: but I I don't think that's that's a problem because the thing Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: has to have a colour anyway, Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: and Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: most of the times there is a brand present on it. So Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: I think that's not gonna Francis Torres: Okay. Kevin Smith: gonna affect it very uh very much. Well that are the the consequences uh on a marketing uh part. David Conley: Alright. Kevin Smith: Yes. James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: 'Kay. It's open already so you can use to James Bentz: Mm. Francis Torres: find yours. James Bentz: It's Francis Torres: F_ five. James Bentz: F_ five. Okay. Oh. Francis Torres: Go Jurgen. James Bentz: What is this? Oh no. How do I uh Francis Torres: You pressed alt F_ four? James Bentz: No no no. I pressed the mouse button. Francis Torres: Oh great. David Conley: It's th that's the self-destruct button. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. Uh James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: maybe you can do it from your computer James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: so Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: Um Francis Torres: talk Kevin Smith: Just Francis Torres: us through James Bentz: if you Francis Torres: it. James Bentz: all go Kevin Smith: yeah. James Bentz: stand around Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: uh Computer Kevin Smith: Sure. David Conley: Alright. James Bentz: Um Francis Torres: That's nice. James Bentz: No. Francis Torres: F_ five. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: Okay. Kevin Smith: Alright. James Bentz: I uh had uh two examples. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: Um this one is the the yeah the advanced one with a lot of options and functions and Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: buttons. This Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: the easy one I think we have to to combine them. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: And David Conley: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: uh yeah merge the best functions of all examples. Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: Um but yeah the the age is uh under Francis Torres: The James Bentz: forty? Francis Torres: mm Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: yeah. Kevin Smith: and James Bentz: So we Kevin Smith: and and marketing research stated that that that kind of users are not afraid of of a lot James Bentz: Okay Kevin Smith: of functions. James Bentz: so so we have the option Kevin Smith: So not James Bentz: for Kevin Smith: not James Bentz: more Kevin Smith: too much James Bentz: functions. Kevin Smith: but yeah. James Bentz: Um yeah. David Conley: And we do have to integrate the screen and the the speech Kevin Smith: the speech recognition yeah. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: alright. James Bentz: Uh yeah this this one we can remove for kids. It's just only for adults so uh we can uh use some advanced options. Kevin Smith: Yeah from James Bentz: But Kevin Smith: age of sixteen James Bentz: Yeah Kevin Smith: so James Bentz: but I Kevin Smith: yeah. James Bentz: prefer we we uh use the the basic options uh yeah. We have to to make them very easy so Kevin Smith: Mm. James Bentz: for just David Conley: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: uh zapping around the channels you can just push one button. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: But if you want to to use your your video recorder or something else, you should use use an uh an advanced option. Kevin Smith: Yeah but uh the the newsflash also stated that it should control only one device, James Bentz: Okay Kevin Smith: only James Bentz: one Kevin Smith: your James Bentz: device. Kevin Smith: television. Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: So Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: n James Bentz: I Francis Torres: it's James Bentz: didn't Kevin Smith: w Francis Torres: very easy. James Bentz: see. Francis Torres: Now James Bentz: Okay Francis Torres: yeah Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: it's okay. Kevin Smith: there are not extra options in this case, James Bentz: and Kevin Smith: but Francis Torres: Okay. Kevin Smith: uh James Bentz: I also uh yeah. W yeah. We have to make it fashionable. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: Like Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: you uh said uh before. Uh yeah the basic functions. Um yeah only use a extra function if they are really needed. Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: so maybe you can hide them or something. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah well what what we can do with the screen is is all the the configuration options, you can put that in the screen. Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: And the Francis Torres: you make Kevin Smith: and Francis Torres: a Kevin Smith: the Francis Torres: screen menu or something. Kevin Smith: yeah screen David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: menu to to to uh James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: to do that, and then the basic function just on the device itself. So it Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: looks very simple and all the advanced features are hidden in the screen, Francis Torres: Yeah James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: uh Francis Torres: and Kevin Smith: with Francis Torres: the other Kevin Smith: a clear Francis Torres: oth Kevin Smith: menu. Francis Torres: other uh functionality is the screen. What does the screen do? Kevin Smith: Uh. David Conley: Alright. James Bentz: Did I Kevin Smith: What Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: are James Bentz: uh Kevin Smith: wh James Bentz: did I break Francis Torres: It's James Bentz: it? Francis Torres: low power. Kevin Smith: What. Francis Torres: So what does the screen do? They said they needed it but what does it do? What do they want with the screen? James Bentz: For for the advanced functions I think. Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: that's what Kevin Smith: well Francis Torres: we make Kevin Smith: it Francis Torres: it up. Kevin Smith: yeah Francis Torres: So Kevin Smith: it didn't Francis Torres: but Kevin Smith: it Francis Torres: what did Kevin Smith: didn't Francis Torres: the marketing Kevin Smith: say what they want to do with Francis Torres: No. Kevin Smith: the screen. Well I, my guess is it's it's pretty handy for advanced Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: uh Francis Torres: okay it's Kevin Smith: advanced Francis Torres: handy. Kevin Smith: functions. Francis Torres: With James Bentz: Like searching Francis Torres: no predefined James Bentz: for channels and Francis Torres: uh Kevin Smith: Yeah searching David Conley: Ah look. Kevin Smith: for channels, programming David Conley: We Kevin Smith: them. David Conley: have James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: your uh oh never mind. Francis Torres: We're back online. James Bentz: Okay. That's uh I'm al I'm almost finished so Francis Torres: Okay. James Bentz: Um the we have to to to watch out for the i if we make it f very fashionable, it it the functional functionality will go down. So we have to make uh a compromise between functionality and fashional Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: fashionable Francis Torres: Content and form. James Bentz: yeah Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: content and form. Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: Now that that was Francis Torres: That was James Bentz: uh Francis Torres: the end. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: was the end. David Conley: Okay. James Bentz: Yes. Francis Torres: Okay. David Conley: Well my presentation is a bit uh sucky. Kevin Smith: Well you can improvise Francis Torres: Uh which one Kevin Smith: right? Francis Torres: is it? Technical functions? David Conley: Yeah a little bit. Uh Francis Torres: This one? David Conley: no. No no. Francis Torres: Functional requirements? David Conley: Yeah I think that would be it then. Francis Torres: No. Kevin Smith: So we we David Conley: I Kevin Smith: can David Conley: have Francis Torres: You David Conley: no Kevin Smith: go Francis Torres: didn't David Conley: idea. Kevin Smith: for Francis Torres: put it in? Or David Conley: That w. Francis Torres: it's David Conley: Let Kevin Smith check. Francis Torres: not really English. David Conley: I know. Francis Torres: Uh kick off. Oh working design I got it. David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: So we can go for the look-and-feel of the the left example, and then a screen on top of it. Francis Torres: Here you go. David Conley: Alright how do I uh skip pages? Francis Torres: Just uh press uh yeah. David Conley: The keys Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: yeah? Alright. Um yeah well I was working on this before I got my information. So I was just working off the top of my head and Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: using my colin common knowledge about uh remote controls. And well the info on the website which Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: came too late. Um so I didn't really know what kind of functions we had to put into it yet. So Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: uh uh this is basically an overview of what we discussed in our last uh meeting. Those were my uh starting Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: points. Uh I was working on a s yeah on a schedule, and I was supposed to do it like this. But um yeah then uh the information came and it was kind of exact with all the steps in the remote control that I had to follow, so I was Francis Torres: Mm. David Conley: trying to organise them for myself. And then make the Kevin Smith: Design? David Conley: the Francis Torres: Design David Conley: design, Francis Torres: yeah. David Conley: a Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: the actual design, but I never came around to do that. So Kevin Smith: Okay. David Conley: I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say about it. I mean everything speaks for itself I guess. Mean you press a button Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: um the it tru goes, it sends a signal to a chip, which uh translates it into infrared signal of certin spatial frequencies. Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: frequency. Yeah. David Conley: And uh or temporal fr frequencies actually. And then uh through a uh transformer, it Francis Torres: Yeah David Conley: the Francis Torres: decoder. David Conley: signal gets boosted and then sent to the to the receiver on the T_V_ and the T_V_ will translate it into a function. Um Yeah well this was actually all I Francis Torres: Blank. David Conley: got around to do. Francis Torres: Yeah David Conley: I mean Francis Torres: okay. James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: I Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: dunno if I'm too slow for this stuff, but uh Francis Torres: Work harder. James Bentz: Okay shou should David Conley: Yeah. James Bentz: we make a list David Conley: Whatever. James Bentz: of the of all the functions we want Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: uh Francis Torres: Uh Kevin Smith: Yeah we want to incorporate in James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: uh into it. Francis Torres: 'Kay. Um for those that didn't see yet um the basic new requirements of the management were no teletext, only for T_V_. Uh it should be designed for a use g uh group below forty, but I don't think it's w wrong if we can uh target the current customer group as well. Kevin Smith: Mm. Francis Torres: And uh the corporate identity should be clear in the design of the remote control. And we have to decide on the functions, and on the, let's see what was it, uh the target group. We have to make be clear what that is. Kevin Smith: group of users, or Francis Torres: Yeah users. Kevin Smith: because it says below forty I mean. Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: I guess Francis Torres: so Kevin Smith: that's that's Francis Torres: I think Kevin Smith: the tar Francis Torres: it's easy but James Bentz: But Kevin Smith: yeah James Bentz: uh it's Kevin Smith: uh or male James Bentz: it's also Kevin Smith: and female James Bentz: for children or just Kevin Smith: Uh James Bentz: uh Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: six Francis Torres: it's below forty so we Kevin Smith: the Francis Torres: can Kevin Smith: marketing Francis Torres: decide Kevin Smith: research Francis Torres: where James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: to Kevin Smith: started on s on the age of sixteen. Sixteen James Bentz: Okay. Kevin Smith: to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, Francis Torres: Okay. Kevin Smith: thirty five to forty five, something like that. So Francis Torres: So Kevin Smith: um Francis Torres: below forty is okay. But we need an lower level which to s uh Kevin Smith: How Francis Torres: focus. Kevin Smith: do you mean? Francis Torres: So is it from sixteen to forty? Is it from twenty to forty? Is Kevin Smith: Uh Francis Torres: it from Kevin Smith: sixteen Francis Torres: thirty? Kevin Smith: to forty. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah? Kevin Smith: Well James Bentz: We we Francis Torres: 'Kay. James Bentz: have to Kevin Smith: I I guess people of sixteen are are quite used to technology. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: So they they adapt to it pretty soon I guess. James Bentz: And if we have a larger public we have uh yeah more options to Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: to uh sell our product. David Conley: Yeah so what we might wanna do is uh yeah cust I have customised the screen functions, if you know what I mean. The Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: uh younger users are more acquainted with these kind of machines so they can use more advanced functions. But maybe elderly people don't understand it so well, so they need a simpler remote. Francis Torres: Design. David Conley: And Francis Torres: Mm. David Conley: yeah that you can choose what the design displays, or James Bentz: Yeah David Conley: wha whatever. James Bentz: that's that's why uh I wanted to to make yeah two uh different uh yeah groups of functions. The the simple functions for for the the whole public, David Conley: Yeah. James Bentz: and the the advanced options for the younger people yeah who are Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: more yeah David Conley: Experienced Francis Torres: And James Bentz: experienced Kevin Smith: But Francis Torres: maybe David Conley: yeah. Kevin Smith: uh all James Bentz: with Kevin Smith: incorporated James Bentz: uh Francis Torres: y Kevin Smith: in the screen or or just James Bentz: Na Kevin Smith: on the remote itself? James Bentz: I w I should uh put uh the the yeah the extra advanced options on the onto the onscreen display. Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: like like you have a visual of the of the brightness with with James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: a kind Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: of sliding bar and Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: a bus and and stuff like that for sound and and vis and and visuals? Francis Torres: So is you should have a menu for all the the functions Kevin Smith: Uh you can make Francis Torres: you don't Kevin Smith: a Francis Torres: use regular James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: and which Kevin Smith: if you Francis Torres: are Kevin Smith: make a drawing. Francis Torres: Yeah. Aye yeah. Kevin Smith: Uh Uh. Francis Torres: Shall I uh Kevin Smith: Uh black's okay. And draw it very big. Oh. Francis Torres: Yeah. It's okay. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: no, it doesn't have line control, so Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah we get the Kevin Smith: Yeah well, this is basically uh David Conley: The remote? Kevin Smith: it's alright Francis Torres: The remote, Kevin Smith: the remote? Francis Torres: yeah? Kevin Smith: Um Francis Torres: Basic. Kevin Smith: well usually the power button Francis Torres: Is on Kevin Smith: is Francis Torres: top. Kevin Smith: on top I Francis Torres: Which Kevin Smith: guess. Francis Torres: should be easy, easily reached with the thumb. Kevin Smith: Yeah so James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: it should fit right James Bentz: L left Kevin Smith: in into James Bentz: top Kevin Smith: your James Bentz: or Kevin Smith: hand. James Bentz: right uh top? Kevin Smith: Right. Francis Torres: T I s should David Conley: Right James Bentz: Yeah, Kevin Smith: Right. David Conley: top. James Bentz: right. Francis Torres: said Kevin Smith: I Francis Torres: right. Kevin Smith: most people Francis Torres: Because Kevin Smith: are right-handed so James Bentz: Okay. David Conley: Yeah Francis Torres: yeah. David Conley: definitely. Kevin Smith: maybe left-handed special addition, but okay. If you put it like like here. Or something. I dunno. Um then you could put a screen, like on a mobile phone, also on top I guess. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. James Bentz: Yeah but if you are using the the normal functions, the the basic functions, you normally Francis Torres: Do James Bentz: press Francis Torres: the James Bentz: them Francis Torres: also James Bentz: on the Francis Torres: with the thumb. James Bentz: u yeah. Francis Torres: So it should be a little bit longer so that you can put your uh thumb, also reach the middle. Or you should screen at the bottom and then you can see it very clearly. Kevin Smith: Okay so y yeah you have you have it Francis Torres: You Kevin Smith: in your hand, Francis Torres: you need Kevin Smith: and the Francis Torres: to Kevin Smith: screen is below, Francis Torres: be able to hold it so Kevin Smith: and James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: the buttons are in the middle. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Okay for example if you put the screen here, it's more about the functions now than the Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: than the layout. Francis Torres: okay that's true. Layout. That's Kevin Smith: Doesn't Francis Torres: for the Kevin Smith: work too well. It's uh it's bent. Francis Torres: I can't help it. James Bentz: You broke it. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Man. Kevin Smith: Right. Francis Torres: Yeah okay. Kevin Smith: Okay you get it. Uh for example if y if you put all the Right. Francis Torres: You want the normal piece of paper? And you have a pen? Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: And might be Kevin Smith: Maybe David Conley: easier Kevin Smith: this. David Conley: huh? Kevin Smith: kind of works. Francis Torres: Yeah? Kevin Smith: Like if you have like uh ten buttons for for all the for all Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: the channels, um Francis Torres: Uh. Kevin Smith: and here one for Francis Torres: And the Kevin Smith: for Francis Torres: for flipping up James Bentz: Yeah Francis Torres: and down. James Bentz: yeah. And volume control. Kevin Smith: Yeah that that usually uh David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: like David Conley: I Kevin Smith: here, here, here, here. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: you have up and down for the for the channels, Francis Torres: And left Kevin Smith: and left Francis Torres: to right. Kevin Smith: and right for the volume Francis Torres: And Kevin Smith: uh Francis Torres: those can also be used for the menu. David Conley: Yeah exactly. I thought Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: but this is really your department, Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: that we need just the functional display Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: and Francis Torres: Yeah David Conley: four Francis Torres: okay David Conley: cursors. Francis Torres: but this is function Kevin Smith: And Francis Torres: so Kevin Smith: you you have Francis Torres: if David Conley: And Francis Torres: you can use them for multiple Kevin Smith: most Francis Torres: things Kevin Smith: of the time you David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: have David Conley: okay. Kevin Smith: one button in the middle. It Francis Torres: For Kevin Smith: says Francis Torres: the menu. Kevin Smith: menu, Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: and then if you press it you the screen gets activated and then you can use these buttons Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: to scroll up and down and left and right to go into functon and then just Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: mo most of the time this menu button is also like okay, to to confirm a a kind Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: of action. So you scroll into it, okay. You select a function like v like uh bass. You just adjust it with these two buttons. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Then okay to confirm, and then uh on on each on each screen there's there should be an option to go back to a to a upper level. And then David Conley: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: finally say okay, exit. Or or one button to exit it. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Uh in one time I dunno, that's not really my department. That's more your uh your department to James Bentz: And Kevin Smith: to James Bentz: do Kevin Smith: uh James Bentz: we need Kevin Smith: to James Bentz: a a logo on our uh remote control, or Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: But it should be if the screen is here then the logo should be like James Bentz: On the left Kevin Smith: on James Bentz: uh Kevin Smith: on top, James Bentz: top Kevin Smith: yeah. James Bentz: yeah. Kevin Smith: I mean it's uh James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: Yeah but that depends on where you put the screen. But Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: it's essential that there is a screen. Kevin Smith: Yeah I mean the position of the screen is also more essential than I mean we we look where we have space left and then put the logo over there. Francis Torres: Yeah. And Kevin Smith: But um Francis Torres: for the speech uh recognition part, if we want to incorporate that, we need a microphone. Kevin Smith: Yeah so it should be I mean if you have it in your hand here, should be on top somewhere, Francis Torres: Yeah. This Kevin Smith: maybe. Francis Torres: would be uh David Conley: Why Kevin Smith: I David Conley: did Kevin Smith: mean David Conley: we Kevin Smith: i David Conley: wanna put the display in the bottom? Francis Torres: No that's not s sure so Kevin Smith: That's David Conley: Okay. Kevin Smith: not sure but Francis Torres: uh Kevin Smith: it's James Bentz: Yeah Francis Torres: we need James Bentz: may Francis Torres: a James Bentz: maybe Francis Torres: display. David Conley: Because James Bentz: because David Conley: yeah James Bentz: you're David Conley: if you use the functions your hand will block the display. James Bentz: Yeah okay but only for the basic functi if you're going to use the advanced option, you're going to press the the menu button and then yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah I mean a screen on top looks more David Conley: Normal Kevin Smith: lo David Conley: for logical Kevin Smith: logical to Kevin Smith. Also James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: t Kevin Smith: because people use m mobile phones and Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: they also Francis Torres: they're Kevin Smith: have Francis Torres: used Kevin Smith: the screen Francis Torres: to it. Kevin Smith: on top. James Bentz: Okay the yeah. Kevin Smith: So James Bentz: That's possible. Kevin Smith: you you just have to reach a little bit for the power button. David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: I mean if you grab David Conley: On Kevin Smith: it. David Conley: once it's on it's on. Kevin Smith: But David Conley: You don't need Kevin Smith: most David Conley: the James Bentz: Yeah, David Conley: power Kevin Smith: most David Conley: button. James Bentz: okay. Kevin Smith: of the times if a if if a T_V_'s on standby people just press a channel James Bentz: Okay we put it on top. Kevin Smith: to put it on. So we put this on top, James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: and then make the corporate logo like over here. R_R_. And j and the microphone, I mean it can be very small. If you look at your mobile phones David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: are some stripes, little little holes. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. David Conley: Maybe on the top or even on the side. Kevin Smith: Yeah maybe on the side. I mean Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: if the if Francis Torres: but Kevin Smith: the Francis Torres: then Kevin Smith: microphone Francis Torres: it's possible Kevin Smith: is Francis Torres: that Kevin Smith: good. Francis Torres: you cover it with your hand so David Conley: True. Kevin Smith: Yeah James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: okay. So Francis Torres: I think Kevin Smith: on Francis Torres: that Kevin Smith: the on Francis Torres: top Kevin Smith: the Francis Torres: is Kevin Smith: top Francis Torres: the best Kevin Smith: is Francis Torres: option. Kevin Smith: better. David Conley: But if you uh if you hold the ma the remote like this, if you put it on the top on the side I dunno. Francis Torres: Yeah okay. David Conley: Should be able to Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: work. Francis Torres: Depends David Conley: Never mind. Francis Torres: on the sensitivity of the microphone, David Conley: Can we Francis Torres: but David Conley: leave Francis Torres: I David Conley: this Francis Torres: think David Conley: up to Francis Torres: that's David Conley: you? Francis Torres: okay. Kevin Smith: Yeah it doesn't matter that much. So but um the screen is on top? Which functions did we have left? I mean this is basically numbers, Francis Torres: Volume. Kevin Smith: volume, uh channel Francis Torres: Up. Kevin Smith: up and down. Francis Torres: Channel up and down, Kevin Smith: Screen Francis Torres: and the control Kevin Smith: is over Francis Torres: of Kevin Smith: there. Francis Torres: the advanced options. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: So James Bentz: If Francis Torres: maybe James Bentz: we Francis Torres: it, we should decide what advanced options we want to put in the L_C_D_ screen. Kevin Smith: Yeah. That's uh that's a good one. David Conley: Yeah so we we needed to integrate the sound and uh and image options right? Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah David Conley: Like Francis Torres: so sounds? David Conley: uh bass uh Kevin Smith: Sound? David Conley: so we need kind of an equaliser. If Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: you Kevin Smith: Equaliser. So if you have sound But not too advanced. I mean most T_V_s use only treble James Bentz: Yeah it Francis Torres: Yeah James Bentz: it's Kevin Smith: and Francis Torres: and James Bentz: just Kevin Smith: bass. Francis Torres: they're James Bentz: a remote control David Conley: Yeah treble, James Bentz: so Francis Torres: They're David Conley: middl Francis Torres: not used David Conley: middle, Francis Torres: often David Conley: bass or something. Francis Torres: so James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. It's uh pretty hard to write. David Conley: Ah as. Kevin Smith: Mm. Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: Okay Francis Torres: just Kevin Smith: but you have sound? Francis Torres: Yeah sounds. Kevin Smith: Yeah just Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: oh y you have digital uh better write it down over there yeah. Francis Torres: Of course. Kevin Smith: So you have sound. Francis Torres: I'm just a secretary. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Coffee? Kevin Smith: Uh David Conley: Yes Kevin Smith: yeah sound David Conley: please. Kevin Smith: and then within sound I guess treble and bass? Francis Torres: Treble bass. David Conley: the mono stereo option? Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Uh Kevin Smith: Also. David Conley: And then Francis Torres: Pitch I believe, David Conley: pitch. Francis Torres: yeah. Kevin Smith: Pitch. Yeah. But pitch, isn't that yeah that's the the height Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: The fr Kevin Smith: of the David Conley: yeah Kevin Smith: tone. David Conley: the frequency of the tones, yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah okay, Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: wh why Francis Torres: and Kevin Smith: would you Francis Torres: mono Kevin Smith: use that? Francis Torres: stereo. David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: If David Conley: isn't Kevin Smith: people David Conley: that Kevin Smith: like David Conley: that Kevin Smith: talk David Conley: depends Kevin Smith: like uh David Conley: on the on the signal of the of what program you're watching. Francis Torres: Mm. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: And also the tuning part? Kevin Smith: Programming part. Francis Torres: Yeah programming. Kevin Smith: Uh Francis Torres: So channel programming? Kevin Smith: so we have sound, yeah? Channel programming. David Conley: And yeah in the functionality of the James Bentz: Television uh David Conley: no no James Bentz: itself David Conley: of the James Bentz: uh David Conley: remote uh do do we want uh the buttons to make sound when you press them? As a confirmation James Bentz: Mm. David Conley: or whatever Kevin Smith: Mm. David Conley: you know? I dunno. Francis Torres: Mm. Kevin Smith: I think it g it gets annoying. I mean Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: most mobile James Bentz: We Kevin Smith: phones James Bentz: we could make Kevin Smith: used James Bentz: an option Kevin Smith: that in the James Bentz: for Kevin Smith: beginning James Bentz: it, but Kevin Smith: but James Bentz: uh you can disable David Conley: Under James Bentz: s David Conley: the a yeah advanced option James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: menu you can put those things. James Bentz: But Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: uh the the television itself has also the the options brightness and uh screen colour etcetera. So Francis Torres: Contrast yeah. James Bentz: yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah but people don't want to sit on their knees on their knees in front of their television Francis Torres: Mm. Kevin Smith: with Francis Torres: No. Kevin Smith: only three buttons Francis Torres: Uh, Kevin Smith: then it's very hard to Francis Torres: so contrast, Kevin Smith: y David Conley: Yeah. Kevin Smith: yeah contrast and brightness? Francis Torres: bright, Kevin Smith: Yeah those are the most Francis Torres: uh Kevin Smith: used I guess. If Francis Torres: And Kevin Smith: you look Francis Torres: the others Kevin Smith: at your Francis Torres: were Kevin Smith: monitor. Francis Torres: in your presentation right? So I can Kevin Smith: Well Francis Torres: just copy those? Kevin Smith: yeah well I guess that these were the only ones, I guess. Francis Torres: Okay. It's easy. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: But so Kevin Smith: I David Conley: we have Kevin Smith: will look David Conley: we Kevin Smith: it up. David Conley: have T_V_ options, which is all this. Francis Torres: Yeah the David Conley: The Francis Torres: button David Conley: sound, Francis Torres: options and David Conley: sound Francis Torres: the David Conley: and Francis Torres: L_C_D_ David Conley: image. Francis Torres: options. David Conley: And you have in that uh the Francis Torres: Indeed. David Conley: indeed the remote control options. Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: So we need two menus kind of thing. Francis Torres: Yeah you have basically a button menu, which you can use directly, uh David Conley: Uh-huh. Francis Torres: according to the old principle. And the L_C_D_ options are activated by some some software options, thats communicates with the infrared Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: uh Kevin Smith: with the chip Francis Torres: decoder Kevin Smith: and Francis Torres: yeah. Kevin Smith: then I mean Francis Torres: So you Kevin Smith: Uh Francis Torres: You have an additional processor and Kevin Smith: yeah. Francis Torres: and Kevin Smith: Well Francis Torres: software part. Kevin Smith: yeah we have David Conley: Alright. Francis Torres: Compared Kevin Smith: power button, Francis Torres: to o Kevin Smith: whether that's present. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: Channel volume selection present. Uh numbers present. Yeah a audio Francis Torres: L_ Kevin Smith: settings, Francis Torres: s Kevin Smith: mono, stereo, pitch, bass, Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: treble. Screen settings, brightness and colour. Francis Torres: Colour. Yeah I Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: I call Kevin Smith: con Francis Torres: it Kevin Smith: contrast Francis Torres: contrast. Kevin Smith: is Francis Torres: Yeah I make it c colour. Kevin Smith: Yeah okay, colour and brightness. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Um and what you say, channel settings or channel programming? So you you have an option to to start scanning all the frequencies, Francis Torres: Yeah and automatically Kevin Smith: and when it encounters Francis Torres: um Kevin Smith: one, well it shows on your T_V_. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: And then you can um Uh and then you can select uh a number in your Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: remote Francis Torres: so Kevin Smith: on Francis Torres: I've Kevin Smith: which Francis Torres: g Kevin Smith: you want Francis Torres: channel Kevin Smith: to save Francis Torres: program Kevin Smith: it. Francis Torres: is autoseek? Kevin Smith: Yeah, autoseek. Francis Torres: Uh name a channel, or Kevin Smith: Well most T_V_s automatically display the name, which they get through the cable. Francis Torres: Oh they get automatic names, Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: okay. Kevin Smith: So you only have to choose the position on your It only has to match the the channel frequency on your T_V_, Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: with with the with the position on your T_V_ and and so your remote. Francis Torres: Yeah but David Conley: Help. Francis Torres: can you also say I want f uh Veronica on the channel number uh five or Kevin Smith: If you already programmed it. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: If you want to move it. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah that should be possible too. Francis Torres: How do you call that? Kevin Smith: Yeah how do you call that? Mm? Wait you you should be able to to browse through a list or something, which w displays all the all Francis Torres: Channels? Kevin Smith: the values, all the channels Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: which are possible. I mean like one to Francis Torres: Ninety Kevin Smith: f thirty Francis Torres: nine or something. Kevin Smith: of or ninety Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: or whatever. Just browse through it and then um in some kind of way see if it if it if Francis Torres: S Kevin Smith: it is programmed. Francis Torres: swap channels? Can Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: I call it that? Kevin Smith: Swap channels. Francis Torres: Swap's good option. Okay. Uh Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: other Kevin Smith: you Francis Torres: functions? Kevin Smith: most of the time if you if you swap it S uh let's say for example you have uh R_T_L_ five on on channel five. And Veronica on channel eight and you want to move Veronica to channel five, um most of the times you override the previous uh the Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: previous one. Francis Torres: Okay. Well that's 's up to uh Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Mister User Interface Kevin Smith: It's Francis Torres: Designer. Kevin Smith: it's pretty James Bentz: Okay. Kevin Smith: uh yeah I mean you have to look on on the menu David Conley: working Kevin Smith: on David Conley: design. Kevin Smith: the T_V_. David Conley: Doch. Francis Torres: Also. That's David Conley: He only Francis Torres: you're David Conley: has to figure out how it has to look. And how James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah but also, David Conley: to use Francis Torres: which buttons you have to press to get a certain result? And David Conley: Yeah okay. But Francis Torres: the working design was to specify how ph the physical interation between the components was, as I believe. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: You did your homework. But um yeah. Kevin Smith: Or or is David Conley: Okay. Kevin Smith: it too hard to to ju to just do it all on your remote? To programme the channels? David Conley: No Francis Torres: No David Conley: no. Francis Torres: I James Bentz: No David Conley: It should Francis Torres: don't Kevin Smith: Uh. James Bentz: that's David Conley: be Francis Torres: think David Conley: able Francis Torres: so. David Conley: to do Francis Torres: But David Conley: any remote. Francis Torres: I think the communication with the television is difficult. But that's Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: not our part. Kevin Smith: No. Francis Torres: We don't have to design a protocol so David Conley: No. Kevin Smith: That's true. That's true. David Conley: Thank god. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: Okay Kevin Smith: So we have a figure a figure out a way to to do that easily. I mean th the autoseek is is not a problem. I mean Francis Torres: No Kevin Smith: you uh you Francis Torres: that's Kevin Smith: uh current Francis Torres: the Kevin Smith: channel and then then it just says, uh on which number do you want to save this, and you just press a number on your remote, and then say confirm, okay, and then it's it's saved. It's easier, it's it's it's harder to, if you have already programmed it, Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: to to swap. So Francis Torres: So Kevin Smith: we have Francis Torres: but Kevin Smith: to think of something for Francis Torres: Um Kevin Smith: that. Francis Torres: James Bentz can design a menu for all these function Kevin Smith: Yeah Francis Torres: I put them on Kevin Smith: k Francis Torres: the. James Bentz: On Kevin Smith: kind James Bentz: the Kevin Smith: of structure James Bentz: uh Kevin Smith: into James Bentz: yeah can Kevin Smith: layers. James Bentz: you i make a a map with with all the yeah 'cause it's now there are lots and lots of documents Francis Torres: Yeah. Yeah James Bentz: and Francis Torres: I can. I'll just try to reorganise uh things. Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: Um So you design the basic function menu for the L_C_D_ screen? Uh um Kevin Smith: And and Francis Torres: I think Kevin Smith: the layout of of the thing Francis Torres: th James Bentz: The Kevin Smith: itself. James Bentz: the layout Francis Torres: I think James Bentz: of Francis Torres: the James Bentz: the Francis Torres: yeah James Bentz: remote Francis Torres: the layout James Bentz: control? Francis Torres: of the screen and I think you can concentrate more on the button placement and the placement of the uh screen itself on the. James Bentz: Isn't that more the the u uh the user interface Francis Torres: No I d James Bentz: part? Francis Torres: I think that's more in. David Conley: Uh all the functional uh aspects of the Kevin Smith: Maybe David Conley: remote Kevin Smith: more on David Conley: I think are in my department. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: I have to know what it has to do, so if you wanna you know the changing the channels kind of s thing is, I Francis Torres: Okay. David Conley: have to integrate Francis Torres: So David Conley: that Francis Torres: he's David Conley: in the Francis Torres: layout David Conley: design. Francis Torres: and you're function. David Conley: Yeah. Francis Torres: Form function okay. David Conley: I think Kevin Smith: Okay. David Conley: that's a that's a good James Bentz: But David Conley: separation. James Bentz: do I have to to uh to yeah to make the the menu layout also? Or Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: Mm. James Bentz: Are Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: you going to do that? Kevin Smith: Yeah I guess James Bentz: Yeah? Kevin Smith: so. James Bentz: I Francis Torres: I James Bentz: I'm Francis Torres: think James Bentz: going Francis Torres: i that's James Bentz: to make Francis Torres: your department James Bentz: yeah Francis Torres: yes, James Bentz: o okay. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: because David Conley: Yeah Francis Torres: w he David Conley: we have Francis Torres: already David Conley: to Francis Torres: knows David Conley: kind Francis Torres: what David Conley: of work together. James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: If Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: if I make the the Francis Torres: But we're not allowed. David Conley: the yeah the menu like, I have to state which function has to be in the menu, and then you have to decide, it's, James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: in a in a way that b is user-friendly. James Bentz: Okay Y. you you are going to make a list of what functions are uh are going to to be on Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: the the screen, the David Conley: Yeah. James Bentz: menu screen. And I'm going to make a a nice menu uh Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: with Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: I think yeah. Kevin Smith: With with James Bentz: with pages Kevin Smith: some l James Bentz: and Kevin Smith: with some layers in it. So James Bentz: yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah and also Kevin Smith: some menus. Francis Torres: make clear which buttons to press to get certain result, Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: because that's always the difficulty. Every device has its own Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Well I guess this this button, the the the okay, Francis Torres: Menu okay. Kevin Smith: menu Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: okay. Or you can incorporate two uh difference uh different buttons. Uh like uh for your mobile phone. Um so this is only for to get in the menu, or to exit it. Francis Torres: Mm. Kevin Smith: And then one to confirm, and one to go one step Francis Torres: Back. Kevin Smith: back. Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: So it's like the the save button on your your mobile phone, if you have a Nokia or like that. Or the or the no button. David Conley: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: To go one step back you it's only two extra buttons, James Bentz: Yeah. W Kevin Smith: but if James Bentz: we Kevin Smith: it if it's very clear that they are for the screen James Bentz: Uh I think we have to to group, to make two groups. Um the one group for the for the display, and one group for the basic functions, and David Conley: Yeah. Francis Torres: Yeah but they're incorporated? James Bentz: Yeah okay Kevin Smith: Yeah James Bentz: but Francis Torres: Up Kevin Smith: because James Bentz: we Francis Torres: and down James Bentz: we Kevin Smith: this James Bentz: have Francis Torres: is James Bentz: a Kevin Smith: this James Bentz: m Kevin Smith: is used for both. James Bentz: yeah but maybe that's that's not uh yeah if Francis Torres: Smart? James Bentz: you're if you're z zapping uh with your uh yeah remote control, you can press the the menu button, and then you are suddenly into the the Kevin Smith: Into James Bentz: yeah the Kevin Smith: your James Bentz: display. Kevin Smith: screen. Okay. So you l should David Conley: You wanna Kevin Smith: leave David Conley: separate Kevin Smith: the menu David Conley: uh. Kevin Smith: button out of here. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: And and just Francis Torres: Put Kevin Smith: put James Bentz: Yeah Francis Torres: it Kevin Smith: it Francis Torres: on Kevin Smith: under James Bentz: j Francis Torres: top. Kevin Smith: the screen, James Bentz: just Kevin Smith: the screen James Bentz: just group group the yeah we make these the advanced functions and these the basic functions. Francis Torres: Mm-hmm. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: So we make a yeah a line between them. Kevin Smith: But we should place the screen on top, right? Francis Torres: Well James Bentz: F oh yeah. Okay yeah we swap uh Francis Torres: But James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: that's Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: uh J Jurgen's department. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: So we Kevin Smith: You James Bentz: make Kevin Smith: just James Bentz: it a Kevin Smith: you just find out Francis Torres: You just make the layout. Kevin Smith: and. James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: You do we do the extra two buttons or not? James Bentz: Uh David Conley: I think you should. Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: It's easier. If you put too many functions in one button it gets confusing. Francis Torres: Yeah James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: okay. That's true. James Bentz: So we have a a menu button and a s Francis Torres: And to, okay and back, Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: also. James Bentz: Okay. Okay and back Kevin Smith: Yeah, James Bentz: button. Kevin Smith: or confirm Francis Torres: And Kevin Smith: and Francis Torres: of Kevin Smith: back. Francis Torres: course the four Kevin Smith: Whatever. Francis Torres: arrows. Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: No. Francis Torres: But those are still y doubly used. Kevin Smith: Should Francis Torres: Both Kevin Smith: we save Francis Torres: the L_C_D_ Kevin Smith: this picture, or or you know James Bentz: Yeah Kevin Smith: what it looks James Bentz: I'm I'm Kevin Smith: like? James Bentz: not s clear about uh the the extra two buttons. We have a menu button Francis Torres: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: and Kevin Smith: That that just to James Bentz: That's Kevin Smith: to activate James Bentz: the the one Kevin Smith: the screen. James Bentz: with the yeah okay. Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: Menu button access the menu in the L_C_D_ screen. Kevin Smith: And then with these buttons, Francis Torres: You can navigate. Kevin Smith: woa, y you navigate. James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: But you can also navigate the channels. And James Bentz: Okay Francis Torres: the volume. James Bentz: so that that's not uh Yeah Francis Torres: Those James Bentz: that Francis Torres: are James Bentz: Those are Francis Torres: both both James Bentz: multifunctional. David Conley: Hey Francis Torres: yeah. David Conley: is it interesting for users if we put LED lights under the buttons? So that if you uh press on the menu function that only the buttons that are Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: used for the menu are ligh Kevin Smith: L David Conley: li Kevin Smith: l David Conley: light Kevin Smith: litten David Conley: up. Kevin Smith: up yeah. James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: That's very Francis Torres: Oh Kevin Smith: good idea. Francis Torres: five minutes. David Conley: N Kevin Smith: Alright. Yeah that's Francis Torres: Light Kevin Smith: a good idea Francis Torres: uh Kevin Smith: because then it becomes clear which buttons are active now, which you can use. David Conley: Yeah and then it's also easier to integrate several functions in one button. Francis Torres: Yeah James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: sure. Okay. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: Um Kevin Smith: So Francis Torres: Anything else? Kevin Smith: Those buttons are are David Conley: I think Kevin Smith: lit David Conley: not. Kevin Smith: up. But just one thing. Should we use those two? Them? Or only this to to scroll? And Francis Torres: I've Kevin Smith: then use the two functional buttons to confirm, to go into something? Oh no we have to use this to adjust Francis Torres: Volume. James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: Yeah Kevin Smith: some David Conley: keep Kevin Smith: some David Conley: it Kevin Smith: bars? David Conley: optional 'cause maybe you can you know go left to right and up and down Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: in a in one menu. Kevin Smith: And maybe we should use this also as an okay button, still. And then just only a back button. Francis Torres: Well we James Bentz: No David Conley: The Francis Torres: have David Conley: pr Francis Torres: those buttons. We David Conley: the Francis Torres: use David Conley: problem Francis Torres: all four. David Conley: with the okay button in the middle is, sorry Francis Torres: Yeah okay Kevin Smith: Yeah? Francis Torres: go ahead. David Conley: sorry, uh is uh if you're pressing up and down, you can easily press the okay once you, when James Bentz: Yeah. David Conley: you're not already at your Kevin Smith: Yeah. David Conley: choice. James Bentz: So maybe make one uh one okay button Kevin Smith: And James Bentz: and Kevin Smith: one Francis Torres: Yeah Kevin Smith: back. James Bentz: and Francis Torres: that was James Bentz: one Francis Torres: already James Bentz: navigation Francis Torres: decided. James Bentz: button. Yeah the with with the the channel and the volume uh yeah m a multifunctional navigation button. Francis Torres: Okay that's what we decided James Bentz: Yeah Francis Torres: earlier Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: on. James Bentz: okay. Francis Torres: Right okay. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: So David Conley: You wanna close down Francis Torres: yeah I wanna close David Conley: huh? Francis Torres: down. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: I have to, sorry. David Conley: That's Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: it's David Conley: okay. Francis Torres: not because I don't like you but yh we have lunch break, David Conley: Already. Francis Torres: and then we can work for thirty minutes, and I have to write very fast to make the minich min minutes. Kevin Smith: Yeah. Francis Torres: And then uh we'll see David Conley: Alright. How m how long is the lunchbreak? Francis Torres: I don't know. Kevin Smith: We have to Francis Torres: Nobody Kevin Smith: ask. Francis Torres: told Kevin Smith. David Conley: Okay. James Bentz: But do we have to write uh to write down uh the our stuff now? Or first lunchbreak? Francis Torres: No I James Bentz: Because Francis Torres: th James Bentz: I Francis Torres: believe there's first lunch break. James Bentz: I've everything in my head now so Francis Torres: Yeah. Or you David Conley: Mm. Francis Torres: can just James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: Yeah? James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: 'Kay. Kevin Smith: Yes. James Bentz: 'Kay. Francis Torres: I think David Conley: This is Francis Torres: you can put uh the laptop back in the room and James Bentz: Yeah. Kevin Smith: Yeah. James Bentz: Yes sir. Kevin Smith: Time pressure. Francis Torres: 'Kay. Yeah it's a lot of pressure. David Conley: Yeah. Sorry for my uh Francis Torres: That's David Conley: not Francis Torres: okay. David Conley: finished presentation uh. Francis Torres: Oh James Bentz: Oh Francis Torres: yeah. James Bentz: no Kevin Smith: Yeah we'll kick your ass later. No. James Bentz: no. David Conley: Bring it on. Kevin Smith: Uh. Francis Torres: I Kevin Smith: Aye Francis Torres: don't know if it works but it Kevin Smith: Y Francis Torres: should Kevin Smith: you Francis Torres: be Kevin Smith: saved Francis Torres: saved. Kevin Smith: it? Does it save automatically in the project folder? Or Francis Torres: Yeah. It's uh Kevin Smith: Okay. We'll see. Just Francis Torres: Should Kevin Smith: put back Francis Torres: be Kevin Smith: my Francis Torres: here. Kevin Smith: laptop. Francis Torres: Smart board. Kevin Smith: Alright. Francis Torres: Don't know if James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: you can use it but Kevin Smith: Yeah you can open it with the picture James Bentz: And Kevin Smith: preview James Bentz: uh we Kevin Smith: or James Bentz: have Kevin Smith: stuff James Bentz: to make Kevin Smith: like that. James Bentz: uh some maps with uh with the all the the data we uh Francis Torres: Yeah. James Bentz: gathered. Francis Torres: I try to organise it by these three. Yeah yeah James Bentz: It's it's just my own map so Francis Torres: yeah. James Bentz: I put everything into the Francis Torres: I don't really mind. I just put the minutes here and we'll see. James Bentz: But you got some extra information uh Francis Torres: Yeah that's in the functional design uh folder. James Bentz: Okay. Francis Torres: Yeah. Yeah that's just basically what I just showed. James Bentz: But where do you did you get the newsflash? Francis Torres: Yeah. Yeah I got it by James Bentz: You're the only one Francis Torres: yeah. James Bentz: uh okay. Francis Torres: I'm Kevin Smith: internet. Francis Torres: gonna get kicked if I don't do it so James Bentz: Okay. David Conley: Alright. Kevin Smith: Alright. James Bentz: Yeah. Francis Torres: Make Kevin Smith proud. David Conley: I'll try to. So first we have a lunchbreak now? Francis Torres: Yeah. David Conley: Alright. Francis Torres: I believe so. just ask. David Conley: Mm-hmm. I dunno where she.

Kevin Smith reported on research which shows that users think most remotes are ugly, easily lost and bad for RSI. Audio settings are rarely used, and the power, channel and volume buttons are used most often. The remote should be user-friendly and have a good look and feel. Kevin Smith and project manager described the new requirements that the target group is users under 40, the remote should not include teletext, should be only for TV, and should feature the corporate logo. James Bentz showed examples of two contrasting remotes, recommending that they should use the best features of both. The group decided to use an LCD screen and speech recognition. David Conley described how a remote works, and explained that his presentation was incomplete because he had not received the necessary information in time. The group discussed what functions to include and the layout of the remote, and Kevin Smith drew a possible design on the board. They decided to have buttons for the basic functions and make the advanced functions accessible through the screen. They also discussed what buttons would be needed to navigate the menu on the LCD screen.

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Micheal Marlow: Hello. Yes, I made it. English from on. Drawing or Arthur Stanley: Yeah just testing. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Mm? Charles Perez: Just Arthur Stanley: English. Charles Perez: kidding. So annoying. Arthur Stanley: Break is over. Micheal Marlow: Ooh it works. Arthur Stanley: Whoo. Spicy. Micheal Marlow: Spicy. Where are are all the other presentations? Charles Perez: I just put it in the in the shared folder so Micheal Marlow: The Charles Perez: it should Micheal Marlow: conceptual Charles Perez: be Micheal Marlow: or Charles Perez: yeah I think so. Yeah, conceptual design. Micheal Marlow: Ah. Charles Perez: What or whatever Micheal Marlow: Because Charles Perez: does it Micheal Marlow: I see only my own presentation Charles Perez: No no no, can you go back one? Micheal Marlow: yeah. Charles Perez: Uh 'cause it has to be PowerPoint pre yeah Micheal Marlow: This? Charles Perez: components design, that's it. Micheal Marlow: I'll just put it Arthur Stanley: So, Micheal Marlow: in there. Arthur Stanley: he's coming. Charles Perez: I did Micheal Marlow: Or not. Charles Perez: get a bit more done than the Gary Mayes: Okay. Charles Perez: last time, Arthur Stanley: Oh Charles Perez: 'cause Arthur Stanley: okay. Charles Perez: I knew that I didn't have time so I just copy and paste everything into Micheal Marlow: Ah, Charles Perez: the Micheal Marlow: I can't Arthur Stanley: Ah. Micheal Marlow: cut and paste it into Arthur Stanley: She. Micheal Marlow: the Arthur Stanley: You Micheal Marlow: other Arthur Stanley: can Micheal Marlow: folder Arthur Stanley: look Micheal Marlow: but Arthur Stanley: at the final report, 'cause I have to record everything we are deciding and such, so Micheal Marlow: Move to Arthur Stanley: I'm Micheal Marlow: meeting Arthur Stanley: trying Micheal Marlow: room. Arthur Stanley: to write it down between everything else. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Sometimes I have these pop-ups or these sounds and there's nothing there, Arthur Stanley: Oh. Charles Perez: and Micheal Marlow: Yeah Micheal Marlow too, Charles Perez: also with I don't know how to use PowerPoint, so it takes Micheal Marlow forever to get something done with Gary Mayes: I Charles Perez: it. Gary Mayes: I've got the same problem as well. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Here we go again. Welcome. Charles Perez: Thi Arthur Stanley: we have again three presentations and then we have to decide on what concepts the phone has to f the remote control has to support. So Charles Perez: Mm-hmm. Arthur Stanley: who wants go. Micheal Marlow: Yes. Charles Perez: Who Arthur Stanley: Yes? Charles Perez: wants to start? Micheal Marlow: Micheal Marlow first or Arthur Stanley: Yeah Gary Mayes: Oh. Arthur Stanley: sure. Gary Mayes: No. Arthur Stanley: Doesn't matter. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: yeah. Gary Mayes: No problem Micheal Marlow: Alright. Did you open it already or Arthur Stanley: No. Micheal Marlow: no. Ah. Ah. Yes. Micheal Marlow: So welcome to the marketing presentation once again. Um this time about trendwatching. Uh well there has been inv investigation again, in the in the remote control market. Uh it shows a number of developments. Uh I will address them uh in a moment. Um fashion watch watchers uh have detected the trends for young public, because that's our public. Um well fruit and vegetables will be will be the most important theme for clothing, uh shoes and furniture. And the feel of the material is expected to be spongey. So um the developments I will address them oh yeah well this is the fruit and vegetables looks of fresh bright colours. So to give you an idea. Um well the developments? Uh development one. Uh well most important aspect for remote control happens to be a fancy look-and-feel. Instead of the current uh functional look-and-feel. Um well fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and the interface. And the second most important aspect is that a remote control should be technological uh innovative. Um well it stands for the use of technical features that do not exist in current remote controls. I think we pretty much covered that with our screen and um Charles Perez: Sound. Micheal Marlow: and speech recognition, so Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: I Charles Perez: yeah Micheal Marlow: don't Charles Perez: uh uh. Micheal Marlow: expect that to be a problem. And the third development um is that the remote control should be easy to use. Um Well the first aspect uh was twice as important as the second aspect,w which was twice as important as the third aspect. So Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Micheal Marlow: um that kind of gets you this ratios. So fancy look-and-feel uh is the most important uh point of attention. Uh so the fruits and vegetables in combination with the spongey material. Um well technolog technological innovation, we've covered that pretty much I guess. Um and easy to use, I don't think that will be problem. So my point of attention is especially this part. That this Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: will be a crux. So that was the marketing uh presentation. I had only one document left. Charles Perez: And shall I go first? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: So Gary Mayes: No. I Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: I don't mi I don't mind. That's Micheal Marlow: So kind of this Charles Perez: Yeah? Gary Mayes: Do you want to go first? Okay. Arthur Stanley: Yeah yeah sure. Micheal Marlow: So Arthur Stanley: No. Micheal Marlow: a k Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: a small example. Kind of this this look. Uh nothing about the buttons but just Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: sponge kind of thing, and and some fruit and colours I dunno. Just made a quick design. Arthur Stanley: Cool. Gary Mayes: It's better Micheal Marlow: Alright. Gary Mayes: than than Charles Perez: Alright. Gary Mayes: my uh drawing. Arthur Stanley: Yeah you're just the user interface hmm? Gary Mayes: Yeah Charles Perez: Uh Gary Mayes: okay but I Charles Perez: components. Gary Mayes: have to design the Arthur Stanley: Yeah layout. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: Oh no. Arthur Stanley: Yeah okay. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. It's okay. Arthur Stanley: You probably opened it. Charles Perez: Yeah true. Um Arthur Stanley: F_ five. Micheal Marlow: F_ five. Charles Perez: Alright. So I'm dealing with the components design. Um let's see. I uh used some design examples we had uh from similar products. And I used uh possibilities from our manufacturing department about current components which will have to be implemented in the design. That's why I had to, wanted to go first. Well they gave Micheal Marlow um an idea about what people want. We're f mainly focusing on this group, but I want to make the distinction clear. Uh I could not drag the pictures into the the slides so s so I don't have examples of how it looks like. But it comes down to what you uh what you think we should do with the spongey and the fruity looking uh type. If you, the young dynamic people want soft primary colours uh, which looks like fruits you know, you can and shapes that are curved and not uh solid straight lines anymore. So this basically um yeah goes on to what you were mentioning earlier. There is a lot of um factors involved in choosing the components. There's a lot of options that we have to discuss. Uh for example the energy source. we have four types. The basic battery. Uh we have a hand dynamo, which we yeah we Dutch refer Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: to it as the kneipgatt. Uh the kinetic provision of energy which means if you move the thing, if you shake it. Which will be fun for toddlers right, if they wanna Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: use the And uh of course solar cells. But I dunno how we would use that into the Micheal Marlow: Wi Charles Perez: design of the actual product. So Micheal Marlow: an indoors. Charles Perez: uh Micheal Marlow: Oh. Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: my Arthur Stanley: okay. Charles Perez: yeah Arthur Stanley: Calculator's Charles Perez: also Arthur Stanley: can do it. Charles Perez: also in you know countries where there's n isn't much light like in Scandinavia, they wouldn't be y able to use it half Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: of the year you know. So Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: that's Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: not cool either. So um for the uh a case, there's uh the traditional uncurved flat hard case. Single curved, which means that it has uh curves in one dimension. Or the double curved. Um I wasn't able to finish my uh personal preferences sheet, but well you know that we will have to go for the double curved 'cause it's daring and different from what we have now. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Uh the case materials. Well we have all kinds of hard uh materials like the the hard plastic, the wood and the titanium. I would definitely go for rubber 'cause it fits most in what people wanna see nowadays. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Um poo, this is a lot of text. I wasn't able to organise this yet. We have yeah several uh interface designs. Uh we can use a scroll buttons for the menus, but we already kind of decided to go for Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: the Gary Mayes: Pushbuttons. Charles Perez: f for the pushbuttons, Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: for the the arrow buttons. So that's Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: not really interesting. Electronics? Yeah, maybe we wanna decide on what electronics to use the advanced chip I think is easiest to implement uh for the production, 'cause they they can print it better. Um Yeah. I think this is about it. Yeah I was working on some per personal preferences. I first uh chose for the battery, 'cause yeah I'm traditional and that's the most obvious, easiest choice to go to. But I really think that we should maybe uh think about the kinetic energy, where Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: you have to move the thing to Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: be able to Gary Mayes: As Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: use Gary Mayes: an optional Charles Perez: it. Gary Mayes: uh feature. Or combine uh both with with one uh Micheal Marlow: I Arthur Stanley: Uh Micheal Marlow: guess Arthur Stanley: I Micheal Marlow: we Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: can Arthur Stanley: think Micheal Marlow: only Charles Perez: maybe Arthur Stanley: you Micheal Marlow: choose Charles Perez: we Arthur Stanley: can only Micheal Marlow: one. Arthur Stanley: fit one uh source of energy Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: on the Charles Perez: I can imagine that the kinetic uh type energy source would be more expensive to make. But it is more longlasting, that the people don't have to ever buy batteries again. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: And it's more fun. Arthur Stanley: I Charles Perez: And Arthur Stanley: didn't Charles Perez: it's also Arthur Stanley: receive Charles Perez: more fun Arthur Stanley: any Charles Perez: yeah. Arthur Stanley: info Charles Perez: I always chuck Arthur Stanley: uh. Charles Perez: my uh remote control Micheal Marlow: Yeah, Charles Perez: around, so Micheal Marlow: just Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: playing with it and especially when the material's rubber. It can Arthur Stanley: S Micheal Marlow: be done, I mean, Arthur Stanley: yeah it's Micheal Marlow: you can't Arthur Stanley: safe. Micheal Marlow: harm Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: it, Charles Perez: y Micheal Marlow: so it's a Gary Mayes: And Micheal Marlow: perfect Gary Mayes: throw Charles Perez: exactly. Gary Mayes: it. Micheal Marlow: combination Charles Perez: You Micheal Marlow: I Charles Perez: don't Micheal Marlow: guess. Charles Perez: have to be scared about bouncing it off the g floor and breaking it or whatever. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: Okay. Charles Perez: So that's the end of it. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: So Charles Perez: Uh Arthur Stanley: 'Kay next. Charles Perez: go ahead. Micheal Marlow: So double curved is like this, this, this, or Charles Perez: No it means curved in two dimensions. So uh w single curved? Uh let's say would be a b square box, Micheal Marlow: Mm. Charles Perez: but then with curves on one dimension. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: And double curved would means that it would have curves Micheal Marlow: Also in Charles Perez: curves Micheal Marlow: in Arthur Stanley: Uh Micheal Marlow: height? Charles Perez: in every direction. Micheal Marlow: Yeah Charles Perez: Like Micheal Marlow: okay. Charles Perez: three Arthur Stanley: Okay. Charles Perez: D_. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Can we uh Gary Mayes: One Charles Perez: Yeah. Gary Mayes: one uh very important thing I was uh yeah thinking about is the speech uh option. We were going to use that. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: Yeah. So um Yeah um yeah that's one thing uh which I'm not sure uh of how to implement it uh into the Charles Perez: Design? Arthur Stanley: Well Gary Mayes: remote control. Arthur Stanley: the visual representation is not Gary Mayes: No okay Arthur Stanley: there with Gary Mayes: but Arthur Stanley: speech Gary Mayes: it Arthur Stanley: but Gary Mayes: has Arthur Stanley: you Gary Mayes: to be Arthur Stanley: can Gary Mayes: combined with with the menu uh for functions and Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: So Arthur Stanley: Just Gary Mayes: okay. Arthur Stanley: yeah. I think you can just uh match the speech commands with the functions Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: that are already present. Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: So Micheal Marlow: Yeah with Arthur Stanley: I don't Micheal Marlow: the programme. Arthur Stanley: think you have to design anything Gary Mayes: But do uh j do Arthur Stanley: else Gary Mayes: we Arthur Stanley: for that. Gary Mayes: uh do the speech just for the basic options, for the simple buttons? Arthur Stanley: Both. Gary Mayes: For for everything, also for Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: the advanced options? Okay. Uh we have this very uh basic uh trendy design. Everybody says it so that's what's uh yeah um Yeah in the in the last uh meeting we uh we were yeah putting the the simple and the advanced options separated. That's yeah obvious. Um yeah. Pressing the the menu option uh will disable uh all other options on your uh remote control. And only the the L_C_D_ panel will uh light up and then you can only uh change the yeah Micheal Marlow: And Gary Mayes: the options. Micheal Marlow: and the and the buttons that you need to Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: control Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: it, I guess. Gary Mayes: Um yeah design has to be very attractive but that's your your op your yeah. you have to uh delete this but this Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: is the the the simple uh layout. Uh display on the upper side with the the menu button and maybe a some sort of cancel button or save button. Arthur Stanley: That Gary Mayes: I'm Arthur Stanley: would be the back. Gary Mayes: The Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: back. Arthur Stanley: Back and okay. Micheal Marlow: Back Gary Mayes: Back Micheal Marlow: and okay. Gary Mayes: and okay yeah. Uh Arthur Stanley: You did read the minutes I wrote? Gary Mayes: What? Arthur Stanley: You did read the minutes I wrote? Gary Mayes: A little Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: bit I think but not not Arthur Stanley: Oh okay Gary Mayes: everything w Arthur Stanley: 'cause I pretty much summed up all the buttons there Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: were. So Gary Mayes: Oh I uh didn't read that. Arthur Stanley: I hate Gary Mayes: But Arthur Stanley: doing work for nothing. Gary Mayes: But this is the the basic uh design uh for the for the m yeah for the buttons. Um I wanted to to categorise everything. Uh with a speech display uh yeah, sound, everything you you noted in your uh minutes. Um every pushbutton has uh has its own uh LED light. So Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Gary Mayes: you can uh yeah change uh m make it more trendy for for younger people. And uh if there are older people they wanted more uh yeah more uh luxurous so that's an a also an option. Um that was it. Arthur Stanley: That was it? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Okay. Uh again. Ugh. Arthur Stanley: Okay so what we have to decide is what kind of components do we use? Uh energy source, chip type, case type. And user interface. But I didn't see a clear distinction between these so I think what we have is okay. So we only, we already decided that kinetic would be the choice for energy. Micheal Marlow: No. Arthur Stanley: Uh the case would be doubly curved. Micheal Marlow: Rubber Arthur Stanley: So Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: material. Charles Perez: rubber. Rubber material. Arthur Stanley: Rubber material. And that's the only thing we have left. Charles Perez: Yeah we need the the chip on print to be able to support the the screen and uh Arthur Stanley: Oh okay. Charles Perez: and f Arthur Stanley: No it's easy. Charles Perez: audio function. Micheal Marlow: So that's uh is that is that the advanced chip? Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Advanced Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: chip. Micheal Marlow: Wow. Arthur Stanley: Okay. Charles Perez: you would have a simple chip, just for pressing Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: buttons. But we need more. Micheal Marlow: Alright. Kinetic. Charles Perez: I'm just thinking, Arthur Stanley: Too. Micheal Marlow: Double Charles Perez: this Micheal Marlow: curved. Charles Perez: is not my department, but I I'm not sure what this is gonna cost, to be able to Arthur Stanley: Uh Charles Perez: m Arthur Stanley: I didn't get any info on this. So Charles Perez: So 'cause we need to sell it for twenty five Euro a piece. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: That's gonna be difficult huh? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: The cost of making it should be twelve and a half? Arthur Stanley: I have total Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: here. Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: yeah Arthur Stanley: I Charles Perez: yeah. Arthur Stanley: don't know. I didn't get any information about that Gary Mayes: We're Arthur Stanley: so Gary Mayes: going to produce it in uh China so it's no problem. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: Child labour man, we love it. Micheal Marlow: Yeah, so it's Arthur Stanley: Who doesn't. Micheal Marlow: cheap. Arthur Stanley: Uh let's see. Is there a new thing? Micheal Marlow: Um well the interface type supplements. Arthur Stanley: Yeah the interface, maybe can Gary Mayes: Uh it's it's quite Arthur Stanley: Ooh. Gary Mayes: difficult because we we haven't got all the options uh Arthur Stanley: No. Uh Gary Mayes: yeah. Arthur Stanley: do you have a picture of doubly curved case? And could you put that in the group folder? Charles Perez: Um Arthur Stanley: Of the project folder. Charles Perez: let Micheal Marlow see. Wait a sec. Micheal Marlow: If you go to your homepage or something, you should Charles Perez: Yeah I'm going there now. Micheal Marlow: get your own information. Charles Perez: Inspiration. Micheal Marlow: I got my fresh and fyoo fruity uh picture uh also uh Charles Perez: Well Micheal Marlow: over there, Arthur Stanley: Ah Micheal Marlow: so Arthur Stanley: you didn't draw it yourself. Micheal Marlow: No. Arthur Stanley: Ah. Micheal Marlow: Too less time. Charles Perez: Um Micheal Marlow: Yeah, Charles Perez: yeah maybe Micheal Marlow: also the Charles Perez: it's Micheal Marlow: menu. Yeah Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: that that Gary Mayes: This Micheal Marlow: w Gary Mayes: is the the menu I was Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: uh looking uh Micheal Marlow: Yeah I Charles Perez: Maybe Micheal Marlow: was thinking Charles Perez: it's easier Micheal Marlow: of that Gary Mayes: at. Micheal Marlow: also, with with a Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: with a Arthur Stanley: Arrow. Micheal Marlow: uh arrow. Gary Mayes: Arrow yeah. Micheal Marlow: So Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: that indicates that there's an menu under that menu. Charles Perez: Yeah. Yeah perfect. Micheal Marlow: So Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: Maybe Arthur Stanley: 'S Charles Perez: it's easier Arthur Stanley: the target Charles Perez: if you guys Arthur Stanley: group. Charles Perez: come Gary Mayes: S Charles Perez: over Gary Mayes: yeah. Charles Perez: here. S Micheal Marlow: Oh Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: yeah. Charles Perez: see Arthur Stanley: sure. Charles Perez: this is the the the standard traditional type, where the form uh yeah serves the function, you know. It's like really basic. But this m is more appealing to old people and we don't Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: want that. This is what we're looking for. And th that means curved in both dire dire uh dimensions. Arthur Stanley: Oh okay. Charles Perez: Not only Arthur Stanley: I Charles Perez: like Arthur Stanley: see. Charles Perez: this but Arthur Stanley: Yeah also like Charles Perez: it has Arthur Stanley: this. Charles Perez: to Arthur Stanley: So Charles Perez: be Arthur Stanley: you can hold it. Charles Perez: exactly. It has to be kind of instead of the PlayStation, the module. It has to be like the the Game Cube, you know, where Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: your thumbs would be laying in the instrument and it has to Gary Mayes: But Charles Perez: be Gary Mayes: it Charles Perez: nice Gary Mayes: has also Charles Perez: to hold. Gary Mayes: to it Charles Perez: And Gary Mayes: it has also to be uh luxurous uh for for yeah rich people. Th Charles Perez: It ha Gary Mayes: this looks a little bit like like for Arthur Stanley: The Gary Mayes: only Arthur Stanley: children's Gary Mayes: for children. Arthur Stanley: story. Yeah I've Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: got Charles Perez: but Arthur Stanley: it. Charles Perez: that's Gary Mayes: So Charles Perez: that's the Arthur Stanley: Distinction. Charles Perez: the problem Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: uh yeah the dilemma actually, 'cause we wanna appeal to the to the young public with fancy with flashy colours, and with a lot of shape. And Yeah, Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: and the and Gary Mayes: The Charles Perez: the rubber, Gary Mayes: colour Charles Perez: it it will look cheap always, Gary Mayes: Yeah. Okay Charles Perez: you know, Gary Mayes: but Charles Perez: with the Gary Mayes: the the colours, you you can make it uh make the colours with LEDs uh beneath the the buttons. If you Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Gary Mayes: press a button and you can disable the the colour LEDs for for people that don't like it. Micheal Marlow: Mm. Charles Perez: There is mobile phones, in which you can change the colour also of the Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: lights. Maybe we should consider this function. Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: To customise it and so I mean kids can make it look more flashy with different kinds of colours Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: and people who want something, you know, Arthur Stanley: Different. Charles Perez: different, or more uh design, Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: they can go for one colour like uh for example this uh photo Arthur Stanley: Camera. Charles Perez: th camera. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Cool. S underwater Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: uh Arthur Stanley: submarine. Micheal Marlow: yeah. Charles Perez: Personally I think it's really ugly. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: Just Arthur Stanley: Well Charles Perez: give Micheal Marlow the thing that it's inside there Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: maybe Gary Mayes: Very Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: I'm Gary Mayes: cheap Arthur Stanley: but Charles Perez: too old Arthur Stanley: this Gary Mayes: uh Charles Perez: for Gary Mayes: cheap Charles Perez: this Arthur Stanley: this Charles Perez: stuff. Gary Mayes: look. Arthur Stanley: the is for the. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Okay. Charles Perez: So Arthur Stanley: Uh Charles Perez: those I think are all my oh. Arthur Stanley: Ah yeah bright colours. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Also a Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: kind Charles Perez: this Micheal Marlow: of Charles Perez: is, Micheal Marlow: rubber uh Charles Perez: this is with the curved that I mean. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: That's singly curved. Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Okay. Charles Perez: Yeah? Micheal Marlow: That should be nice. Arthur Stanley: Well we could make a compromise between that. But I don't know if it's worth the effort. Charles Perez: A compromise between what? Arthur Stanley: Uh instead of doubly curved we take a single curved. So to Micheal Marlow: So Arthur Stanley: appeal Micheal Marlow: s Arthur Stanley: a Charles Perez: This, Arthur Stanley: little more to the Charles Perez: this Arthur Stanley: all Charles Perez: would Arthur Stanley: the public. Charles Perez: be uh single curved uh? Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Micheal Marlow: Yeah there's only in in this dimension. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Like this. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: So curvy or not. Arthur Stanley: Also. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah Charles Perez: Exactly. Exactly. Micheal Marlow: so we keep it singly c single curved then? Arthur Stanley: Yeah that would be an option. I don't know what you think. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: I think the I mean our aim is to make something different right? To Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: make something new. Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: I would go for the double curved. Arthur Stanley: Okay. Charles Perez: And Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: I I'm Arthur Stanley: I'd agree. Charles Perez: I'm thinking uh you know uh a drawing palette, Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: where you have the shape for your thumb. So it kind of holds nicely, something Gary Mayes: Yeah Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: like that. Gary Mayes: but if Charles Perez: Well Gary Mayes: you Charles Perez: this Gary Mayes: if Charles Perez: is Gary Mayes: you make Charles Perez: really Gary Mayes: it Charles Perez: your Gary Mayes: more Charles Perez: decision Gary Mayes: curved Charles Perez: but Gary Mayes: we we can make more and more options for buttons. If you have uh it have it in your hand, you you you are not only um yeah you don't need one dimension but you can use other dimensions for pressing the the buttons. Charles Perez: Yeah. As well. You can make a trigger button Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: or something like that. Gary Mayes: Something to shoot at your television Charles Perez: Yeah or that that is the confirmation button or Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: something, Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: that you scroll with your thumb, with the arrows, Gary Mayes: That's Charles Perez: and then confirm. Gary Mayes: yeah. Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: That would be a nice way to use it but I mean, yeah, I'm thinking big already, and we need something Arthur Stanley: Different. Charles Perez: that well that Arthur Stanley: Stands Charles Perez: that you Arthur Stanley: out. Charles Perez: can able to use in Arthur Stanley: Or Charles Perez: one hand I think. Arthur Stanley: Oh yeah a one hand uh Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: solution. Micheal Marlow: So from top view it looks kinda like this. But from the side you you can have it also in a kind of shape. Maybe because Arthur Stanley: can Micheal Marlow: the Arthur Stanley: turn it Micheal Marlow: the screen Arthur Stanley: maybe. Micheal Marlow: is on top you Arthur Stanley: To switch Micheal Marlow: can have Arthur Stanley: from buttons to interface hmm. If you turn it a little. Micheal Marlow: Maybe you can c have this kind of shape. A little upwards. So that the screen is more Arthur Stanley: Oh yeah. Least you Micheal Marlow: towards Arthur Stanley: can easily Micheal Marlow: yourself, Arthur Stanley: see it. Micheal Marlow: so you can easily see your screen. Charles Perez: How Micheal Marlow: Well well Charles Perez: about Micheal Marlow: you have it in your hand so it's a kind of an angle from your eyes to the screen. So this this Charles Perez: Mm-hmm. Micheal Marlow: is so the screen is positioned over here. Oh. Something like that. And the buttons are more, well it's very thick now but Charles Perez: Yeah I understand what you mean. Micheal Marlow: That's uh Charles Perez: How Micheal Marlow: that's Charles Perez: about we do a uh a pop-up screen, like the laptop. Arthur Stanley: If Charles Perez: So Arthur Stanley: you can Charles Perez: that Arthur Stanley: uh flip. Charles Perez: the only the simple functions will be visible at first. Micheal Marlow: Yeah? That Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: that Charles Perez: then Micheal Marlow: you can Charles Perez: if Micheal Marlow: press Charles Perez: you want Micheal Marlow: it and then it comes up? Or Charles Perez: Yeah. Something like that. Arthur Stanley: Uh so you have a the the side view. Micheal Marlow: But then the side view can be straight. If you have a pop-up screen. But I dunno if that's too expensive. Arthur Stanley: So Micheal Marlow: I Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: and Micheal Marlow: mean Arthur Stanley: you Micheal Marlow: maybe Arthur Stanley: want Micheal Marlow: it's Arthur Stanley: to Micheal Marlow: too much Arthur Stanley: be able to make this. Charles Perez: No uh like I would draw it like this. Let's say this is the side view. That you have a a screen that will come up here, and can go down that way. If you know what I mean. Gary Mayes: Okay. Charles Perez: So that it would come Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: up like that. Arthur Stanley: Okay so the buttons are on top here, and you flip it over that Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: way. Charles Perez: or preferably even keep the simple buttons here, Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: and then under the screen even you Micheal Marlow: Oh Arthur Stanley: Oh Charles Perez: could put Micheal Marlow: the advanced Charles Perez: more Arthur Stanley: yeah. Yeah Charles Perez: more Micheal Marlow: buttons. Arthur Stanley: yeah Charles Perez: advanced Arthur Stanley: yeah Charles Perez: buttons. Micheal Marlow: Right. Arthur Stanley: yeah. Right. Gary Mayes: That's Arthur Stanley: Yeah that's good Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: idea. Gary Mayes: the the more advanced options were uh for the for the menu. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: But Charles Perez: F Gary Mayes: you Charles Perez: for Gary Mayes: you Charles Perez: the Gary Mayes: want Charles Perez: L_C_D_ menu Gary Mayes: okay. Charles Perez: right? Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: You just Charles Perez: So Gary Mayes: want to hide them all? The Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: No not all Charles Perez: w Gary Mayes: oh. Arthur Stanley: because Charles Perez: w Arthur Stanley: you need most of them, the arrow buttons. But you can hide the okay and the back Gary Mayes: Yeah Arthur Stanley: uh Gary Mayes: yeah Arthur Stanley: button. Gary Mayes: yeah. Arthur Stanley: And the menu button also because when you flip it open Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: and you can maybe even drop the menu button because maybe if you flip it open it will auto activate Charles Perez: Oh Arthur Stanley: amauto uh uh automatically. Charles Perez: Activate and th the yeah. Micheal Marlow: So okay b but you have t you need some button to flip this Arthur Stanley: Why? You Micheal Marlow: open. Arthur Stanley: could Charles Perez: True. Arthur Stanley: just Charles Perez: True. Arthur Stanley: make it mechanical. Charles Perez: But you can make a, yeah, you can make a trigger here. You Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: know a simple uh Micheal Marlow: Yeah and Charles Perez: with Micheal Marlow: it Charles Perez: a Micheal Marlow: says menu and it flips open and Gary Mayes: That's Micheal Marlow: then you have the buttons to control Gary Mayes: but it's it's Micheal Marlow: it, in combination Gary Mayes: not Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: with your Gary Mayes: it's not very uh Charles Perez: Exactly. Gary Mayes: very strong uh yeah if you drop it one time. Micheal Marlow: True. It uh c it can Charles Perez: Well Micheal Marlow: go open. Charles Perez: yeah the the idea Arthur Stanley: If you Charles Perez: of Arthur Stanley: cover Charles Perez: it was, Arthur Stanley: it with rubber. Charles Perez: is that because you close it, you cover the L_C_D_ screen and it won't be vulnerable to scratches or whatever. Micheal Marlow: An adv Gary Mayes: Okay. Micheal Marlow: an Arthur Stanley: Mm. Micheal Marlow: adv and it will be Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: covered in some kind of uh thin rubber layer or something Charles Perez: Exactly. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: like that. Arthur Stanley: So Charles Perez: Exactly. Arthur Stanley: it can bounce. Charles Perez: We just have to Micheal Marlow: Yeah, Charles Perez: make sure that the closing Micheal Marlow: uh Charles Perez: mechanism Micheal Marlow: It's Charles Perez: won't Micheal Marlow: very Charles Perez: break. Micheal Marlow: no it's Charles Perez: Th Micheal Marlow: very Charles Perez: it's Micheal Marlow: strong. Charles Perez: very solid Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: yeah. Arthur Stanley: okay so that that may work. Charles Perez: That actually will offer some extra Arthur Stanley: Okay Charles Perez: protection Arthur Stanley: but then we still Charles Perez: for Arthur Stanley: have Charles Perez: the Arthur Stanley: the the the thing of the the the shape. Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: What Charles Perez: I was Arthur Stanley: kind of Charles Perez: thinking, if if you have your hand, it this is your th Arthur Stanley: Harder. Micheal Marlow: Yeah the lower part doesn't work I guess, so maybe you should try it over there. Charles Perez: Okay. If this is your thumb, and this is your hand like that. With your uh wrist. That you, that it would be kind of shape like this, you know. So it's easier to hold in your hand, to Gary Mayes: But Charles Perez: y Gary Mayes: when Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: you are Charles Perez: f Gary Mayes: left-handed, that's that's a problem. Charles Perez: Uh yeah. Yeah of course. Yeah Arthur Stanley: Maybe Charles Perez: then w Arthur Stanley: can design Charles Perez: then you would Arthur Stanley: two versions. Charles Perez: have to Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: But that's Charles Perez: to make Gary Mayes: that's Charles Perez: it like Gary Mayes: very expensive Charles Perez: this. Like Gary Mayes: uh Charles Perez: like you drew here. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: And maybe th then make this thicker also than the centre. Give it Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. And Charles Perez: I would Arthur Stanley: ergonomical Charles Perez: give it a female Arthur Stanley: shape. Charles Perez: shape but uh Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: yeah. Anyway. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: The female shape yeah. With two Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Obviously. Gary Mayes: We we could make some some Charles Perez: Make Gary Mayes: rubber Charles Perez: it more appealing Gary Mayes: uh Arthur Stanley: uh Charles Perez: to Gary Mayes: some Charles Perez: guys. Gary Mayes: rubber uh yeah Charles Perez: I mean Gary Mayes: mouse, with which you can change Arthur Stanley: Oh Gary Mayes: uh Arthur Stanley: yeah. Some Gary Mayes: and Arthur Stanley: uh Gary Mayes: so if you Arthur Stanley: k esk uh yeah. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah but but that's optional for later I guess. I Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: mean, we have to Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: make Charles Perez: but we have hardware inside, which is so it has to have some sort of Gary Mayes: Some Charles Perez: basic shape. Gary Mayes: yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: we we better Arthur Stanley: yeah. Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: so Charles Perez: also Micheal Marlow: choose Charles Perez: the screen, Micheal Marlow: one Charles Perez: you cannot mould it. You Gary Mayes: No Charles Perez: know Gary Mayes: no no Charles Perez: kind Micheal Marlow: Yeah Gary Mayes: no. Charles Perez: of thing. Micheal Marlow: so okay we should better choose one sh one shape. Gary Mayes: Okay. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: But that's the kind of the idea, so it lays good in the hand, and then Charles Perez: And then Micheal Marlow: on Charles Perez: you can Micheal Marlow: on the side with with your Charles Perez: You Micheal Marlow: thumb, Charles Perez: can place the screen Micheal Marlow: you Charles Perez: here, Micheal Marlow: you can Charles Perez: which can Micheal Marlow: you can Charles Perez: come. Micheal Marlow: use, yeah, you Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: can use the button option Charles Perez: And but then I w I Arthur Stanley: spongey? Charles Perez: would Micheal Marlow: Spongey. Charles Perez: I would do the arrows here, kind of thing. Micheal Marlow: Spongey can be reached Charles Perez: Those buttons? Micheal Marlow: by means of Charles Perez: And the simple buttons here, so Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: that Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: And and the and the control thngs in the middle? The the Charles Perez: I Uh Micheal Marlow: the Charles Perez: y Micheal Marlow: arrows? Charles Perez: eah Gary Mayes: No Charles Perez: that's Gary Mayes: the Charles Perez: what Gary Mayes: arrow's Charles Perez: I mean. The Gary Mayes: over Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: arrows Gary Mayes: here. Charles Perez: over here, Micheal Marlow: Yeah Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: and Micheal Marlow: and then Charles Perez: here the Micheal Marlow: numbers. Arthur Stanley: Buttons. Charles Perez: s simple uh Arthur Stanley: Okay. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Alright. Arthur Stanley: I think that uh Micheal Marlow: Uh Arthur Stanley: it's a nice design. Micheal Marlow: pretty nice design. Yeah. Arthur Stanley: It's cool. Micheal Marlow: Yeah it looks uh pretty fancy. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: or do we wanna make its shape look like a banana or something? I dunno. Arthur Stanley: Yeah that's Micheal Marlow: Uh bananas wierd shape and other fruits also, so Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: it's better to have um some sort of basic print and then a fruit print in some primary uh colours. Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: I Charles Perez: we Micheal Marlow: don't Charles Perez: could Micheal Marlow: know Charles Perez: make Micheal Marlow: what what colours should the basic print be like? Like some soft Arthur Stanley: Orange or Micheal Marlow: green Arthur Stanley: something. Micheal Marlow: or something? Or Gary Mayes: Or blue? Micheal Marlow: and then Gary Mayes: Dark blue or Micheal Marlow: Oh yeah yeah, dark blue and then Charles Perez: We should use Micheal Marlow: and then very bright, uh a yellow Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: banana, an orange, uh a green apple, stuff like that, with very uh bright tones I guess. Arthur Stanley: Mm. Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: So Charles Perez: w Micheal Marlow: you have Charles Perez: we Micheal Marlow: something Charles Perez: need very Micheal Marlow: like Charles Perez: primary colours, like Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: bright red, bright yellow. Gary Mayes: Yeah but the primary colours w we can uh create with the with the LEDs on the on the remote Charles Perez: Yeah. Gary Mayes: control. Charles Perez: Yeah okay Gary Mayes: If Charles Perez: yeah. Gary Mayes: you we uh yeah. If you make it uh just a yeah bl give it a blue colour, then it's just a neutral colour, also for the for the more uh yeah for the people. Micheal Marlow: Mm. That Arthur Stanley: Huh Micheal Marlow: doesn't Arthur Stanley: cool. Micheal Marlow: really work. To draw, Arthur Stanley: No it's. Micheal Marlow: I guess. Oh. What's Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: this? Arthur Stanley: it's text. Micheal Marlow: Right. Arthur Stanley: N Micheal Marlow: Hm. Arthur Stanley: no you have to exit. You Gary Mayes: So Arthur Stanley: could Gary Mayes: that's Arthur Stanley: also make line with uh Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Two hours further. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: thickness. Oh. Gary Mayes: So that's blue. Micheal Marlow: Oh. Wh why not go for the twenty? Arthur Stanley: Mm. Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: Mm. Micheal Marlow: That's Arthur Stanley: Y Micheal Marlow: what I call painting. So that's that's a dark blue basic colour Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: I guess. Arthur Stanley: Yeah and then on Micheal Marlow: It's pretty Arthur Stanley: top Micheal Marlow: nice. Arthur Stanley: of that. Micheal Marlow: And then uh Oh Arthur Stanley: Some Micheal Marlow: Yeah Arthur Stanley: yellow. Micheal Marlow: with some some yellow banana Arthur Stanley: Banana colour. Micheal Marlow: Like. Charles Perez: And how about some uh some flashing standby lights? Like you have on the Samsung, well I don't like to call brands phones, the you know that 'cause I remember from one of our first meetings that uh people lose their uh remote controls often. Micheal Marlow: Yeah? Charles Perez: So it not not only in in the colours of the LEDs, that we want something to keep it visible at all times, or Micheal Marlow: How do you mean? Charles Perez: Um Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: Some Arthur Stanley: if Micheal Marlow: some Arthur Stanley: you Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: if flashing colour so you can't lose it, basically. Charles Perez: Yeah. Exactly. Arthur Stanley: Well I Gary Mayes: Maybe Arthur Stanley: think Gary Mayes: a Arthur Stanley: it's a bit too much but Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah an orange. Well alright well this Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: is more like purple I guess, but Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: it's should be more real dark blue, so the contrast with the with the fruit objects is uh pretty Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: high. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: So uh yeah. That would be a nice uh nice device Gary Mayes: And Micheal Marlow: I guess. Gary Mayes: which which colour should uh should I give the the display? Uh Or Arthur Stanley: Who? Micheal Marlow: I mean, the the colour of the background of the Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: display? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Ah well I don't guess it s has to be a Arthur Stanley: And then you Micheal Marlow: sixty Arthur Stanley: can use yellow Micheal Marlow: uh Arthur Stanley: or semething. Micheal Marlow: sixty six five thousand uh Arthur Stanley: Why Micheal Marlow: colour, Arthur Stanley: not? Micheal Marlow: so yeah too expensive. Arthur Stanley: Aye. Micheal Marlow: So Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: just just a a blue blue Gary Mayes: Mm. Micheal Marlow: backlight or Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: something like that. Green is too old-fashioned. But blue, Charles Perez: As Micheal Marlow: blue's Charles Perez: long Micheal Marlow: okay. Charles Perez: as you loo Micheal Marlow: J Charles Perez: use uh high contrast between the the background and the foreground colour. Gary Mayes: Yeah maybe Charles Perez: So Arthur Stanley: Like Charles Perez: that Gary Mayes: a Charles Perez: people Arthur Stanley: this. Charles Perez: with Gary Mayes: maybe Charles Perez: uh Gary Mayes: a white Charles Perez: with Gary Mayes: a white backlight? Micheal Marlow: White backlight, and dark. Gary Mayes: Dark uh letters, yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Whatever which is visible. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: I know you sh you should test it under uh under a light conditions. I mean it's hard Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: to tell Charles Perez: And also Micheal Marlow: uh I Charles Perez: for Micheal Marlow: dunno. Charles Perez: people who are a bit colourblind. Arthur Stanley: Colourblind yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. True. Arthur Stanley: No so that's mostly red and green I believe. Micheal Marlow: Which which uh colour should the buttons be? Gary Mayes: That's adjustable. Arthur Stanley: Woah. Micheal Marlow: Why Arthur Stanley: All Micheal Marlow: adjustable? Arthur Stanley: all buttons? Gary Mayes: Yeah? Or Arthur Stanley: Okay. Micheal Marlow: No Gary Mayes: not. Micheal Marlow: uh Gary Mayes: That's how we are going to make it uh more trendy. Or is Micheal Marlow: But Gary Mayes: it uh too expensive? Micheal Marlow: maybe I mean they Arthur Stanley: It's Micheal Marlow: have Arthur Stanley: difficult. Micheal Marlow: to they have to have some colour right? And if the background is Arthur Stanley: Blue. Micheal Marlow: very dark blue Arthur Stanley: Maybe green. Charles Perez: But don't we wanna make the background the the bright colo colours? So th the total Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: of the Arthur Stanley: you can Charles Perez: thing is very bright? Like the pictures I showed you guys. Those Micheal Marlow: Yeah? Charles Perez: things were all like like Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm Charles Perez: bright Arthur Stanley: flashy. Charles Perez: red, bright red, flashy. Micheal Marlow: So more like Arthur Stanley: Mm bzz. Micheal Marlow: Doesn't work very well. Uh. More like this colour. Charles Perez: Yeah something like that, something that Micheal Marlow: And then Charles Perez: stands out more. Micheal Marlow: then yellow and orange and red objects on it Gary Mayes: Mm. Micheal Marlow: or something. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: But then then again, which colour should the buttons be? The the press buttons. Should they be white or black or Arthur Stanley: Red maybe. Gary Mayes: And it it looks Micheal Marlow: Uh Gary Mayes: quite Arthur Stanley: Black. Gary Mayes: cheap, that colour I think. It's it's not Charles Perez: The green? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah Arthur Stanley: Why? Micheal Marlow: but it's pretty Gary Mayes: I dunno. Micheal Marlow: fresh, on the Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: other side. Arthur Stanley: So Charles Perez: It's actually a pretty trendy colour at the moment. Gary Mayes: It's it's trendy okay. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: But Micheal Marlow: My couch Gary Mayes: Mm. Micheal Marlow: is in that colour. Arthur Stanley: Ooh. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Well Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: it works pretty well. And then time was up. Arthur Stanley: Uh not yet. Micheal Marlow: Uh. Charles Perez: Do you get a pop-up if Arthur Stanley: Yeah Charles Perez: we Arthur Stanley: within five minutes yeah. Micheal Marlow: That Charles Perez: Alright. Micheal Marlow: you have five minutes Arthur Stanley: Y left Micheal Marlow: left or Arthur Stanley: yeah left and then uh I have to kick you Micheal Marlow: So Arthur Stanley: out. Micheal Marlow: something like this. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: That should be pretty nice colour. But maybe the buttons, all buttons in red is maybe a bad contrast for colourblind Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: people. Arthur Stanley: yeah. Charles Perez: No Micheal Marlow: Because Charles Perez: that's Micheal Marlow: the Charles Perez: actu Micheal Marlow: of the Gary Mayes: But Micheal Marlow: green. Gary Mayes: the but the buttons have their own LEDs or not? Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: They have LEDs but they Charles Perez: Red Arthur Stanley: have a colour. Charles Perez: and green are actually the b the easiest to discriminate. Even for colourblind. Micheal Marlow: Yeah? Charles Perez: They will see one of each as grey. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: But if you use uh green on blue, those kind of colours will look the same. Gary Mayes: Okay. Micheal Marlow: Okay. Charles Perez: I think. Micheal Marlow: So red buttons are okay? Charles Perez: I think so. Gary Mayes: Okay. That Arthur Stanley: You can Gary Mayes: that's Arthur Stanley: make Gary Mayes: a Arthur Stanley: them Gary Mayes: default Arthur Stanley: red. Gary Mayes: uh setting. The the red buttons. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. But I think you need to keep in mind that the LEDs are just extra light. Micheal Marlow: How do you mean? Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Uh they they don't determine the colour Gary Mayes: Okay. Yeah Arthur Stanley: that much, Gary Mayes: I I Arthur Stanley: I Gary Mayes: was Arthur Stanley: think. Gary Mayes: think about a red uh red LEDs and blue LEDs and Arthur Stanley: 'Cause Micheal Marlow: No Arthur Stanley: you have to Micheal Marlow: that's that's Arthur Stanley: print Micheal Marlow: too Arthur Stanley: on Micheal Marlow: busy Arthur Stanley: them you Micheal Marlow: I guess. Arthur Stanley: have Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: a background. Each number is transparent. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Uh partly but you have to print on the number. Or the the sign. Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: So you can't Micheal Marlow: You better Arthur Stanley: change Micheal Marlow: bet Arthur Stanley: the colour so Micheal Marlow: better better keep the LED and the button itself in the same colour Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: I guess. So just an extra Arthur Stanley: Bit of light. Charles Perez: You can Micheal Marlow: bit of light Charles Perez: what Micheal Marlow: and Charles Perez: we Micheal Marlow: attention. Charles Perez: should Arthur Stanley: Bit Charles Perez: do Arthur Stanley: of feedback. Charles Perez: I think is is make kind of a see-through plastic button, with Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: uh one coloured LED behind it. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: So that the whole button will shine Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: as the colour the And if you think about easy to use buttons, we have to, well we have to make it the shape so that it's easy to hold f for both hands, but also that you can reach the buttons Arthur Stanley: Mm-hmm. Charles Perez: with your thumb, Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: if Arthur Stanley: Okay Charles Perez: you hold Arthur Stanley: with Charles Perez: the machine. Arthur Stanley: Uh Don't mean to discourage you but uh basically you two are going to work on the smartboard. Next thirty minutes to design Charles Perez: Ah, right. Arthur Stanley: something so Micheal Marlow: Alright. Arthur Stanley: And the You will do the evaluation. Micheal Marlow: Of the product? Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Which we don't have yet. Arthur Stanley: Yeah uh about Micheal Marlow: So wh how should I do that? Arthur Stanley: Yeah I don't know. Micheal Marlow: Oh Arthur Stanley: You Micheal Marlow: okay. Arthur Stanley: probably get a mail. Micheal Marlow: Or you you or you send it to Micheal Marlow. Or just because Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: you are Arthur Stanley: Once Micheal Marlow: going Arthur Stanley: they Micheal Marlow: to Arthur Stanley: are finished. Micheal Marlow: design it Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: on this board right? Arthur Stanley: Yeah but maybe you can do the evaluation you don't have to evaluate yet but you can make a procedure which to follow. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: I don't know. Micheal Marlow: I I probably get instruction on that, Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: how to do that, so I make another presentation I guess. Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: I kn I know what's gonna happen in Arthur Stanley: About. Micheal Marlow: in Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: yeah so Arthur Stanley: You have the basic idea. Micheal Marlow: I've a basic idea. Arthur Stanley: And you two uh are going to do this. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: So Arthur Stanley: Look-and-feel Charles Perez: we're gonna work Arthur Stanley: and Charles Perez: here? On this sketchboard? Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: Good Charles Perez: Alright. Arthur Stanley: luck. Charles Perez: Thanks. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Alright so that's Arthur Stanley: So Micheal Marlow: uh Arthur Stanley: I uh make new page and uh be creative. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Alright. Gary Mayes: But we have to do it at this moment, after Arthur Stanley: Yeah Gary Mayes: th this Arthur Stanley: you Gary Mayes: meeting? Arthur Stanley: have uh Charles Perez: Thirty minutes. Arthur Stanley: thirty minutes. Gary Mayes: Okay. Arthur Stanley: Then we have to uh see something Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: which we Gary Mayes: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: can Charles Perez: Alright. Arthur Stanley: uh Gary Mayes: Ah Arthur Stanley: show Gary Mayes: so this Arthur Stanley: to the Gary Mayes: is Arthur Stanley: management. Gary Mayes: basically the what what we are thinking about? Charles Perez: Yeah. Shall Arthur Stanley: I would Charles Perez: we uh Arthur Stanley: yeah. Charles Perez: make a new uh Gary Mayes: Yeah Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: l Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: let's just uh delete all Arthur Stanley: Next. Gary Mayes: these uh or Charles Perez: Yeah, I just Gary Mayes: Oh, next. Charles Perez: make a new one. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Alright. Arthur Stanley: Oh and save this uh board. Charles Perez: Huh? Arthur Stanley: Just Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: save Charles Perez: I'll just Arthur Stanley: it. Charles Perez: I'll just keep it there. Arthur Stanley: Yeah okay but just press save and uh Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: It'll be fine. Micheal Marlow: On the left. S so, yeah. Charles Perez: Uh sorry. Arthur Stanley: You can also include clip-art. Charles Perez: Okay. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: Current Arthur Stanley: So if you'll Charles Perez: colour? Arthur Stanley: rather draw in paint or something Charles Perez: So um Gary Mayes: Okay. Uh Charles Perez: Shall we make some outline sketches of the basic shape first? Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: Because Gary Mayes: And then after Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: that we Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: can make the user uh inter interface. Arthur Stanley: then look. Charles Perez: Yeah 'cause I have to uh focus on the on the Micheal Marlow: This? Charles Perez: basic look-and-feel Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: design. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: So how it's gonna look. And you have to think Micheal Marlow: Uh Charles Perez: uh Micheal Marlow: pretty Charles Perez: how we're Micheal Marlow: accurate. Charles Perez: gonna put the screen in it and those kind of things. So if I'm drawing and you think okay I'm not gonna be Micheal Marlow: Oh Charles Perez: able Micheal Marlow: we Charles Perez: to put Micheal Marlow: skip Charles Perez: a screen Micheal Marlow: this I Charles Perez: in Micheal Marlow: guess. Charles Perez: there, Micheal Marlow: Sound Charles Perez: you have to Micheal Marlow: button Charles Perez: correct. Micheal Marlow: press. Gary Mayes: Yep. Charles Perez: Uh Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: do you mind if I Arthur Stanley: You Charles Perez: draw Arthur Stanley: can also Charles Perez: in black Arthur Stanley: include Charles Perez: then? Arthur Stanley: it. It's Charles Perez: For Arthur Stanley: not much Charles Perez: normal Arthur Stanley: work. Charles Perez: sketches. Micheal Marlow: Light only Gary Mayes: Oh Micheal Marlow: button Gary Mayes: no it's it's Micheal Marlow: user Gary Mayes: okay. Micheal Marlow: ca user interaction. Charles Perez: so we kind Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: of Arthur Stanley: That's Charles Perez: want Arthur Stanley: included. Charles Perez: the girlish Arthur Stanley: Yeah Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: okay. Micheal Marlow: So Charles Perez: figure. Micheal Marlow: the pl the plastic plastic buttons also help uh because of um they are only Charles Perez: I'm Micheal Marlow: lit Charles Perez: not so good Micheal Marlow: during Charles Perez: at drawing. Micheal Marlow: interaction. So Charles Perez: Excuse Micheal Marlow? Micheal Marlow: Well it's a good thing that the buttons aren't um, well that they are plastic, because then you can light up the light Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: on Gary Mayes: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: when when they are usable. Charles Perez: No uh uh. Micheal Marlow: Maybe you should draw it very large Gary Mayes: Yeah Micheal Marlow: like this. Gary Mayes: but Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Gary Mayes: this part isn't uh functioning Arthur Stanley: Sensitive. Micheal Marlow: Oh Gary Mayes: properly. Micheal Marlow: right. Charles Perez: How do we uh Micheal Marlow: Erase? Charles Perez: uh or insert text? Arthur Stanley: I dunno. Maybe just start typing. Gary Mayes: It's a bit Charles Perez: Oh that's Gary Mayes: uh Charles Perez: a Gary Mayes: large. Charles Perez: bit big. Yeah. Arthur Stanley: You also do the other sides. Not only on the front si uh the top Charles Perez: Yeah. Arthur Stanley: side Charles Perez: Ex Arthur Stanley: but Charles Perez: exactly. Arthur Stanley: also the the side view. Gary Mayes: L Charles Perez: Uh Gary Mayes: let's make first the the the all Arthur Stanley: Uh. Gary Mayes: the views. The the front view, side view and the back view. Charles Perez: Uh I thought for the side view, that Arthur Stanley: Jesus. Charles Perez: the w Arthur Stanley: What Charles Perez: the Arthur Stanley: do Charles Perez: basic Arthur Stanley: I write Charles Perez: section Arthur Stanley: down? Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: would be rather Arthur Stanley: Why can't Charles Perez: uh Arthur Stanley: I work here? This Charles Perez: a bit Arthur Stanley: is much Charles Perez: thicker than the middle, Micheal Marlow: Much Charles Perez: where Arthur Stanley: easier. Charles Perez: you're Micheal Marlow: easier, Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: holding Micheal Marlow: yeah. Charles Perez: it with your 'cause your Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: fingers have to fit underneath Gary Mayes: The middle has Charles Perez: and Gary Mayes: to be Arthur Stanley: Mm. Gary Mayes: very small Micheal Marlow: I don't Gary Mayes: so Micheal Marlow: see Gary Mayes: you Micheal Marlow: a Gary Mayes: can Micheal Marlow: sign that the meeting Gary Mayes: have Micheal Marlow: is over Gary Mayes: it in your Micheal Marlow: yet Gary Mayes: hand. Charles Perez: Exactly Micheal Marlow: but Arthur Stanley: No Charles Perez: but Arthur Stanley: so Charles Perez: the Arthur Stanley: I just Charles Perez: uh Arthur Stanley: work here Charles Perez: but Arthur Stanley: a Charles Perez: the Arthur Stanley: few minutes. Charles Perez: upper Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: side has to be a bit more like that I think. Gary Mayes: Yeah Charles Perez: Uh don't Gary Mayes: the display, Charles Perez: you think? Gary Mayes: we yeah we can Charles Perez: So Gary Mayes: put Charles Perez: the Gary Mayes: a Charles Perez: display Gary Mayes: display. Charles Perez: we will put in here, the basic uh functions in here, where it's most reachable. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: The Gary Mayes: The the Charles Perez: The th Gary Mayes: arrow functions. Charles Perez: Exactly. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Yeah. Charles Perez: Oh. This is hard. What do don't have to draw it exactly do we? Gary Mayes: No it's it's uh it's okay. Charles Perez: Wait. Let Micheal Marlow try it one more time. Maybe I've uh it's easier if I draw it in once. Okay, of course it will become way more ugly. Gary Mayes: You can make it m larger. Maybe it's easier to to draw uh Charles Perez: Yeah. This'll take forever. It's fun to work with this pen. Um so, larger. Micheal Marlow: Oh. Gary Mayes: Yeah Micheal Marlow: Wrong Gary Mayes: that's Charles Perez: And Micheal Marlow: one. Gary Mayes: that's the basic idea. Yeah. Charles Perez: yeah. So side. Arthur Stanley: Five minutes left before the meeting ends. Charles Perez: 'Kay. Um other views? Micheal Marlow: Alright. Gary Mayes: Yeah only if you are going to put buttons on the side of the Charles Perez: Uh Gary Mayes: unit. Charles Perez: Yeah. Gary Mayes: That's the question. Micheal Marlow: But we we Charles Perez: Let's fill i fill in the buttons later. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: So this is gonna be from the Micheal Marlow: I is it if Charles Perez: uh from Micheal Marlow: if this is from the side woah. Gary Mayes: From Charles Perez: yeah Gary Mayes: the Charles Perez: yeah. Micheal Marlow: Steady. Charles Perez: Sorry. Micheal Marlow: Because there the screen goes up like that right? Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: So then it's like this, or Charles Perez: Yeah? Micheal Marlow: that's not convenient because then you have the screen like this and look like the it's better to have it somewhat like this. Or does it flip Gary Mayes: Yeah Charles Perez: The Gary Mayes: I'm Charles Perez: the Gary Mayes: I'm Charles Perez: idea Micheal Marlow: all the way? Charles Perez: is that it has to flip up Gary Mayes: May Charles Perez: to here. Gary Mayes: maybe it's it's easier to to integrate the the the L_C_D_ screen just into this this bubble. Charles Perez: Okay. Gary Mayes: Because it do doesn't have to flip then. Because Charles Perez: Yeah. Gary Mayes: we have en enough Charles Perez: Yeah yeah Gary Mayes: space Charles Perez: yeah. Gary Mayes: for for making a an L_C_D. Because Micheal Marlow: It's Gary Mayes: here Micheal Marlow: better to to Charles Perez: True. Micheal Marlow: have this like this I guess, and then flip it like Gary Mayes: But why Micheal Marlow: this. Gary Mayes: why do we need uh the flipping uh Charles Perez: you can adjust the angle to which it flips. So it can also from this angle, it can flip all the Gary Mayes: Okay. Charles Perez: way up to there. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: You can flip it up to there if you Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: want. Micheal Marlow: So w yeah. But we still keep the flipping mechanism. Charles Perez: Think Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: so. Arthur Stanley: Yeah we keep the flip? Keep the Charles Perez: Yeah Arthur Stanley: flip Charles Perez: because Arthur Stanley: live. Charles Perez: I think it will feel weird if you would make this smaller and this bigger or something that Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: I dunno. Gary Mayes: Uh the the shape is okay but yeah? I don't see the the yeah why why we should use the the flipping uh mechanism. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: Because Charles Perez: thought Gary Mayes: we Charles Perez: it would be cool. Gary Mayes: Okay yeah. It's it's for Micheal Marlow: Yeah Gary Mayes: for Micheal Marlow: but Gary Mayes: for Micheal Marlow: maybe Gary Mayes: more trendy uh Micheal Marlow: Yeah but maybe we we should then Gary Mayes: Because we have enough space. H here we got uh the basic functions, Micheal Marlow: Yeah Gary Mayes: the Micheal Marlow: there the middle Gary Mayes: the arrow uh yeah button. Micheal Marlow: Sh sh shouldn't we integrate it? Gary Mayes: Yeah and Micheal Marlow: And then Gary Mayes: then h we sh mm. Micheal Marlow: like i oh th doh. Come on. So this is the shape. Oh. It hasn't Charles Perez: It doesn't aim so well. Micheal Marlow: Okay but the screen is a bit lower because if it falls Gary Mayes: Yeah, Micheal Marlow: on the other side, Gary Mayes: then it's Micheal Marlow: it doesn't fall on the screen. So there's a layer of rubber on Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: the side. Charles Perez: yeah yeah. Definitely. Micheal Marlow: So no flipping but just Gary Mayes: No flipping or Arthur Stanley: No flipping? Micheal Marlow: no. Gary Mayes: you wanted the flipping so Charles Perez: Yeah I guess but uh I mean Gary Mayes: But Charles Perez: most Gary Mayes: if you Charles Perez: votes Gary Mayes: if you Charles Perez: count right? Gary Mayes: If you drop it it it just breaks. And it has to be very strong because of the. Yeah Micheal Marlow: Throwing Arthur Stanley: It's shaking. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: and the kinetics. Oh. Gary Mayes: kind of Micheal Marlow: We Charles Perez: Yeah Micheal Marlow: better Charles Perez: true Micheal Marlow: make Charles Perez: true. Micheal Marlow: we better make it like this. Charles Perez: Yeah. Micheal Marlow: Eventually. Arthur Stanley: Yeah just Charles Perez: Yeah Gary Mayes: And Charles Perez: if Arthur Stanley: light Gary Mayes: it's Charles Perez: you if Arthur Stanley: on top. Charles Perez: you're going Gary Mayes: also Charles Perez: for Gary Mayes: for Charles Perez: the kinetics Gary Mayes: the for Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: the children, it's yeah for people Arthur Stanley: Safer. Gary Mayes: not sixteen years. Arthur Stanley: Mm. Micheal Marlow: Uh Gary Mayes: But Micheal Marlow: they Arthur Stanley: Yeah Gary Mayes: there Micheal Marlow: are Gary Mayes: are Micheal Marlow: responsible Arthur Stanley: okay Gary Mayes: more Arthur Stanley: that the Micheal Marlow: enough Arthur Stanley: target Micheal Marlow: to have a mobile Arthur Stanley: group. Micheal Marlow: phone, so also to to Gary Mayes: Yeah Micheal Marlow: deal Gary Mayes: okay. Micheal Marlow: with their Gary Mayes: That's true. Micheal Marlow: uh remote uh control. Yes. Gary Mayes: Okay. Yeah? Arthur Stanley: Well. Charles Perez: Yeah. I'm just Arthur Stanley: I just Charles Perez: thinking Arthur Stanley: uh ended Charles Perez: totally Arthur Stanley: the meeting. Charles Perez: different Arthur Stanley: You Charles Perez: designs Arthur Stanley: two go Charles Perez: also. Arthur Stanley: design. Gary Mayes: Okay Charles Perez: Remember Gary Mayes: wi Charles Perez: that the weird pocketphone thingy Arthur Stanley: Oh. Charles Perez: which Arthur Stanley: By the way. Charles Perez: looked like Arthur Stanley: Um Charles Perez: kind of a Gameboy. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: Maybe we should try something like that. Arthur Stanley: I Charles Perez: But yeah. Arthur Stanley: uh thought up a name for our product. Micheal Marlow: Yeah? Charles Perez: Oh Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: right. Arthur Stanley: It's called uh the Real Remote. Micheal Marlow: Ooh. Charles Perez: Alright. Arthur Stanley: With a copyright sign after Real. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Gary Mayes: The Micheal Marlow: Alright. Gary Mayes: Real Remote. Charles Perez: Yeah. I like it. Okay. Arthur Stanley: So Micheal Marlow: Good. Arthur Stanley: maybe Charles Perez: This Arthur Stanley: you Charles Perez: can Arthur Stanley: can Charles Perez: go. Arthur Stanley: include that somewhere. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. We should work in our own room right? Or Arthur Stanley: Yeah. Charles Perez: Oh Micheal Marlow: not? Charles Perez: yeah we have to f uh include that in our design Arthur Stanley: I don't see Charles Perez: as Arthur Stanley: any Charles Perez: well. Arthur Stanley: power cables here so Charles Perez: Let's see. Micheal Marlow: Yeah. Yes. Charles Perez: What the hell's that? Arthur Stanley: 'Kay. Micheal Marlow: See you two Gary Mayes: I think Micheal Marlow: in half Gary Mayes: uh Micheal Marlow: an hour Gary Mayes: it's Micheal Marlow: uh Gary Mayes: the sensors. Okay. Charles Perez: Uh Arthur Stanley: Good luck. Gary Mayes: Yep. Okay that's the side. Ah it's it's okay. But do we want uh options on the on the side with the with the buttons? Charles Perez: Yeah. Gary Mayes: Or just Charles Perez: I Gary Mayes: leave Charles Perez: think Gary Mayes: it? Charles Perez: we do. Gary Mayes: Uh could make an uh a volume button uh scroll, volume button. Charles Perez: Yeah or j or also scrolling for the m Gary Mayes: For Charles Perez: yeah. Gary Mayes: menu. Charles Perez: Yeah? Gary Mayes: Or Charles Perez: I dunno. We w kind of wanted to stick with the Gary Mayes: Yeah. No, Charles Perez: Yeah I'm just Gary Mayes: yeah. Charles Perez: thinking, if we i we wanna make something different right? So the with the scroll is is more futuristic than the standard arrow buttons. Gary Mayes: Yeah. Charles Perez: I think. Gary Mayes: Mm. Yeah you are going to design it so.

Micheal Marlow talked about trendwatching and explained that the current trends are for fruit and vegetable themed products and products with a spongy texture. For users, the three most important aspects of a remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, and ease of use. Charles Perez talked about the options for energy source, case shape and material, and internal components. The group decided on using kinetic energy, and a double-curved rubber case. Gary Mayes talked about speech recognition and what functions will be controlled through buttons or the lcd screen menu. Arthur Stanley ran through the group's decisions so far and led a discussion of their remaining options, including the colour of the case and buttons, and whether the remote should flip open or not.

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Richard Strauss: Hello again. Chester Young: Hi. Jeremy Hodges: Hello. Jeremiah Weal: Hey, Project Manager. Jeremy Hodges: Um, Project Manager, I Richard Strauss: Mm yeah. Jeremy Hodges: have something tell you. I have a little problems with my laptop. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremy Hodges: And uh s s s so I had a little less time to complete. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremy Hodges: No, a little problem, uh big problem. I just thought Jeremiah Weal: What was it, Jeremy Hodges: Um, Jeremiah Weal: problem? Jeremy Hodges: it didn't work anymore. Jeremiah Weal: The laptop? Jeremy Hodges: The entire Windows uh Jeremiah Weal: It hang hung. Jeremy Hodges: It it hung. Jeremiah Weal: Ha-ha. Oh. Project Manager. Richard Strauss: Yes. Jeremiah Weal: You're Richard Strauss: Yes. Jeremiah Weal: our Project Manager. Richard Strauss: Your project manager. Welcome to the conceptual design meeting for Real Reaction. Uh, hello again. Uh it's uh the same as the last time. Uh uh, also this time there will be uh three presentations. And we um must uh reach a decision on uh the remote control concepts. Um uh, and the end, I uh, when I finish it off I have some uh input from uh a master class I uh visited. information. Jeremy Hodges: During lunch, yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Master. Jeremy Hodges: He's the master, yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Master Richard Strauss: The Jeremiah Weal: of Richard Strauss: the the the the concepts on uh we uh where we uh must reach a decision on. Um uh, our from uh are of two sorts. Components concepts and user interface concepts. Uh, the first one is uh really about the the the the the total package uh with uh Well, we have decided to do a do the uh with a touch-screen that must be a case around it so uh it won't be uh uh as breakable. Uh how how about the energy? Can you uh can you reload it or uh just have batteries which you must exchange? Uh, the user interface concept. Uh, with the type and uh the the supplements. So uh where to put what button. And uh uh I would say uh Jans, can you begin? Chester Young: Yeah, sure. Richard Strauss: Okay. At the end, uh I will take notes uh Chester Young: Okay. Richard Strauss: and at the end of the minutes uh will uh be at the shared folder. Chester Young: Uh, let Jeremiah Weal see. I think it's this one. Ha. Jeremy Hodges: Wow. Chester Young: Right. Uh, well, I'll be talking about the components. Uh, what I did was I reviewed previously used items uh by uh two two uh different uh age groups. Richard Strauss: Mm-hmm. Chester Young: Uh below forty five and above. And uh I just uh watch what the differences are and I checked uh, well, what what d do we want, and how we uh d aim a at uh the target group. Well uh what I found was that a senior um senior citizens uh Jeremiah Weal: I'm sorry. Chester Young: Ye Ah, it's Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Chester Young: it's Jeremiah Weal: Go Chester Young: okay. Jeremiah Weal: on. Chester Young: Uh They, well, they like more the they like the traditional materials, like wood and and such more. Wood and chrome. And uh uh they like uh straightforward shapes. Um, uh they they they they like luxurious uh styles, where whereas the young and dynamic, they like a more uh soft materials. Think of the Teletubbies, for instance. Uh uh, soft and fluffy and colourful and Well uh, shapes are curved and round. Y y you get the picture. And uh they like sports and gaming, and that gives them uh the vitality. Uh, so w well Richard Strauss: One Chester Young: uh, firs Richard Strauss: one little question. Um Chester Young: Yes. Richard Strauss: about the the material. Chester Young: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Uh a soft material for a remote control? Chester Young: No, I'll I'll get to that. Richard Strauss: Okay. Chester Young: You you'll see. Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Thank you. Chester Young: Uh, well f first off, let's start start with the energy. W I uh I had a choice between uh a few different uh sources. Richard Strauss: Mm-hmm. Chester Young: But uh the two basic sources that I found were the best possible were the battery uh versus kinetic. Uh kinetic, that's when you move something, then uh it gets energy. I figured, well that's ki kinda high-tech, when when you have a remote control that well, when you pick it up, it has power. That would be actually very nice, uh Richard Strauss: Oh. Chester Young: I figured. Well, we could also use a battery, that's a Jeremiah Weal: Yeah Chester Young: bit Jeremiah Weal: but when the power gets low, you have to shake it or something? Chester Young: Yeah. Yeah yeah, you c just you have to shake it around Jeremiah Weal: Uh, Chester Young: a little bit. Jeremiah Weal: and Chester Young: And Jeremiah Weal: uh Chester Young: then Jeremiah Weal: uh Chester Young: then it d then it has some more uh energy. Well, Jeremiah Weal: Hmm. Chester Young: y you could just go for a battery. Or you can go for both? Jeremy Hodges: Oh, have you the option of using a solar panel Chester Young: Yeah, I actually did. But uh the thing is about solar panel is you have to have l uh light. Well, sunlight preferably. Jeremy Hodges: W Chester Young: Uh, Jeremy Hodges: nah. Chester Young: and you you could you could use normal light, but uh Jeremy Hodges: Mm. Chester Young: you wouldn't get the same amount of energy that you would from a battery or something. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: Uh for uh ultimate b uh n uh use of uh solar panels, you could actually use uh you could use uh solar panels, but uh you ha you'd have to implement them into uh the remote control, leaving you uh a bit less space for Jeremiah Weal: Mm Chester Young: the Jeremiah Weal: yeah. Chester Young: interface. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: It's too Chester Young: So Jeremiah Weal: less Chester Young: uh Jeremiah Weal: space. Chester Young: so i i it it wo what's actually I I c just in f I've figured it out that well, uh seeing that you'll always be uh within the l uh distance of T_V_, and the from T_V_ there comes a a a whole bunch of light. So it would actually power itself uh from Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: a T_V_. But, well you just take up all the space, and you Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Chester Young: wouldn't uh have the full amount of power actually used. Richard Strauss: But you Chester Young: So Richard Strauss: prefer kinetic? Chester Young: I I prefer kinetic because Richard Strauss: Okay. Chester Young: it's uh well, the costs aren't that much higher, and um, ju just a bit more high-tech than than a normal battery. I mean, Richard Strauss: Yeah, Chester Young: if Richard Strauss: but you don't move a a remote control Chester Young: No, Richard Strauss: too Chester Young: but Richard Strauss: much. Chester Young: uh d Well, you pick it up and you press buttons and y well, Richard Strauss: And that's Chester Young: you Richard Strauss: enough to to keep the energy level uh Chester Young: Yeah, well uh actually it is. Richard Strauss: Okay. Chester Young: And it it if it isn't, you just shake it a bit and and add add with power up again. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: But, what l what Jarek said, you could you could use a battery that you'd just keep it on the recharging whenever it moves. And for rest, you'd just add juice on the battery. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: And when the battery doesn't work, I usually shake too. So Like slamming on Chester Young: Exactly. Jeremiah Weal: it. It's exactly the same. Chester Young: And Richard Strauss: Thank Chester Young: so that Richard Strauss: you, Tim. Chester Young: Uh Uh well, f furthermore, you you we uh checked uh the cases. We have uh different options uh concerning the cases. You ha I you sim uh you simply add a basic uh standard uh model uh it was kind of square and uh I figured that's a bit boring. So you you we could go for uh the single curved or the double curved. Um, single curve, it's just a well, uh, you know, it's just uh a nice curve. Or but but you could go in a in an double curves. And that's like several different dimensions. That gives Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: you an whole new uh Richard Strauss: Dynamic Jeremiah Weal: Hmm. Chester Young: effec Richard Strauss: dynamic look? Chester Young: Yeah, that gives you a younger and uh more high-tech look, I f I figured. But, that uh we'll discuss later. Jeremiah Weal: But, are you going to draw it? Chester Young: What? Jeremiah Weal: The Chester Young: You Jeremy Hodges: Th Chester Young: want Jeremiah Weal to draw Jeremy Hodges: th Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: in Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Chester Young: three-D_? Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Uh, I c I can't imagine. Chester Young: Uh, Jeremiah Weal: I can't imagine Chester Young: yeah, I ca Jeremiah Weal: how Chester Young: I Jeremiah Weal: how Chester Young: ca Jeremiah Weal: how Chester Young: I could Jeremiah Weal: it Chester Young: I Jeremiah Weal: looks Chester Young: could show Jeremiah Weal: like. Chester Young: you. I could show you. Well uh let's say y uh you uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: Let's say that's your standard uh Jeremiah Weal: Design. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: That's a bit your d standard design. Jeremiah Weal: Mm-hmm. Chester Young: could actually go like uh something like this. And then uh in three-D_ effect you could go Jeremy Hodges: Um Jeremiah Weal: Uh Chester Young: So y you you just Yeah, this is a this bit uh difficulty in I didn't take a major in art. So But but you could have uh uh a whole new uh the back Jeremiah Weal: Oh, Chester Young: back Jeremiah Weal: okay. Chester Young: the the the depth, you could you could uh just Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Chester Young: play around a bit with. You you don't have to use standard uh Jeremiah Weal: Oh, okay. Richard Strauss: A little artistic. Chester Young: Yeah you could y It leaves more space for creativity. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Chester Young: Uh that might be an idea, but just a Well, furthermore, uh well, uh plastic versus rubber? You We could choose uh what uh what's better, plastic um or rubber. I I ch prefer rubber because it feels uh Yeah. Richard Strauss: It's soft. Chester Young: Yeah, it's soft and it's that Richard Strauss: That's Chester Young: I like Richard Strauss: the material Chester Young: soft. Richard Strauss: the younger people want uh, Chester Young: Yeah, Richard Strauss: ain't Chester Young: yeah Richard Strauss: it? Chester Young: I mean uh plastic uh is Plastic also has that cheap feeling to it, like plastic uh Your your I usually associate plastic with uh something that's cheap. Uh that's maybe just Jeremiah Weal, but Uh, we could uh uh, oh, talk about it later. Uh furthermore, buttons. Uh traditional uh or a touch screen. Well, we discussed it in a previous meeting, so I figured I'll just leave it at the L_C_D_. And uh chip set, well uh if we are going to use traditional buttons, we could go uh with a simple chip set. But uh if we decide to go on a n uh um L_C_D_ screen, we would use an uh we have to use an a advanced chip set. And that would bring uh the necessary costs with with it. So that's something we th have to keep in mind. If it isn't uh manageable uh budget-wise, we'd have to go over to uh to sim to simple buttons. Jeremiah Weal: Well, I think uh we're going to sell tell ten millions of them. So uh I bet a big company in uh Korea or Taiwan, like uh Samsung, Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: can give us uh a big discount on the chips, so Chester Young: Yeah, probably. Jeremiah Weal: U usually, chips are uh aren't more expensive than one dollar. Chester Young: Yeah, probably, but Jeremiah Weal: So Chester Young: But uh yeah, that's Jeremiah Weal: That that Chester Young: that's Jeremiah Weal: shouldn't be a real issue, Chester Young: That shouldn't Jeremiah Weal: I think. Chester Young: shouldn't be uh that big a issue. I'll I'll I'll just add, uh uh I put a big summary here, so we could discuss it a bit. Uh what i what are your ideas concerning battery versus kinetic? Jeremy Hodges: Um, I think you should use kinetic as a back-up. Chester Young: Yeah, you you you should we Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, a Chester Young: should Jeremiah Weal: combination. Jeremy Hodges: A combination, Chester Young: A combination. Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Chester Young: Uh, you use the battery and w charge it up with kinetic. When you pick it up, it Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: charges up. Jeremiah Weal: Like an uh aku uh Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Acu uh, Chester Young: Yeah Jeremiah Weal: yeah. Chester Young: yeah, I know. Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Yeah. Richard Strauss: Just like the watch Jeremiah Weal: Well, Richard Strauss: from Seiko. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Psycho-kinetic. Chester Young: Yeah, I con Exactly. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: What uh what do you think? You agree? Richard Strauss: I I uh I would prefer uh both uh too. Chester Young: Yeah? Both? Jeremiah Weal: Combine Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: them. Richard Strauss: Combine them. Chester Young: Okay. Uh, well that would bring the m m some more costs, but I mean the Who cares, Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Chester Young: right. That's Richard Strauss's Jeremy Hodges: Buy Chester Young: problem. Jeremy Hodges: a fifty Jeremiah Weal: Of Jeremy Hodges: cents Jeremiah Weal: course. Jeremy Hodges: battery and uh Jeremiah Weal: Fifty Chester Young: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: cent. Chester Young: well Fifty cent uh Uh, why doesn't And then we have single-curved versus double-curved. That Jeremy Hodges: Well maybe I have something in my presentation to uh to cope with that. Chester Young: Okay. No, we'll we'll just wait and uh Uh, plastic versus rubber. Jeremiah Weal: Rubber. Chester Young: Any ideas? Richard Strauss: Rubber. Chester Young: Uh, Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: rubber? Jeremy Hodges: Um, Chester Young: You Jeremy Hodges: isn't possible to make combination with kind of rubber is or bendable remotes where you've got a. Or do Chester Young: Uh, Jeremy Hodges: you Chester Young: I Jeremy Hodges: think Chester Young: figured Jeremy Hodges: it Chester Young: it will be m rather than Jeremy Hodges: Rubber Chester Young: hard Jeremy Hodges: casing, Jeremiah Weal: Rather Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Jeremiah Weal: hard. Chester Young: Nah, rubber c uh this is a casing, yeah. Rubber casing, because well if you use an uh d a touch-screen, uh it's just a casing uh around it. So um, Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: you could go for plastic, but I figured Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Um, Chester Young: I Jeremy Hodges: well Chester Young: I I Jeremy Hodges: d Chester Young: would choose rubber. Jeremy Hodges: Maybe I can ask it right now the question that I have. Uh, is it possible uh of is it necessary to make a touch-screen square? It isn't, I think, yeah? Chester Young: Well, m I don't know. Jeremiah Weal: Well, Chester Young: No. Jeremiah Weal: I think that touch-screens are generally square. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: But it's the Jeremy Hodges: We're Jeremiah Weal: case you put around it Chester Young: That Jeremiah Weal: that Jeremy Hodges: We put Chester Young: isn't Jeremiah Weal: makes Jeremy Hodges: fashion Jeremiah Weal: the shape. Jeremy Hodges: in electronics, so Jeremiah Weal: Hmm? Jeremy Hodges: maybe we can uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah okay, but if you have a square uh L_C_D_ screen, Jeremy Hodges: Mm Jeremiah Weal: and Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Jeremiah Weal: you put a case around it that has uh like bulbs or Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Jeremiah Weal: that that covers part of the L_C_D_ screen. Chester Young: Yeah, that would Jeremiah Weal: That Chester Young: cover it. That that would solve Jeremiah Weal: That's Chester Young: the problem. Jeremiah Weal: it's Jeremy Hodges: Oh, Jeremiah Weal: custom customisable Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Okay, Jeremiah Weal: and Jeremy Hodges: I Richard Strauss: Mm yeah. Jeremy Hodges: I get it. Chester Young: So mm Uh uh so uh so what are the opinions? Uh rubber or plastic? I I I prefer rubber. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal too. Richard Strauss: Jeremiah Weal too. Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Chester Young: Yeah, you Richard Strauss: Yeah? Chester Young: too? You sure? You Jeremy Hodges: That's good. Chester Young: you Jeremy Hodges: Well, Chester Young: you seemed Jeremy Hodges: as Chester Young: to hesitate Jeremy Hodges: long a Chester Young: a bit. Jeremy Hodges: as long as it's it's uh it's firm, and you don't uh Jeremiah Weal: Mm yeah. Jeremy Hodges: it's not bendable or something, I th I think that goes too far. Chester Young: Yeah, it it shouldn't it shouldn't Richard Strauss: Okay. Chester Young: flop over when you Jeremy Hodges: Oh. Chester Young: hold it in your hand uh No, that that that that's gonna The the chip set will hold it firm in place, and Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Chester Young: uh and and uh and a L_C_D_ screen also Jeremy Hodges: It might even bounce back when you drop it on the floor. Chester Young: Yeah it m might it might. Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Chester Young: Uh, tra uh traditional versus L_C_D_, well I figured we we all set on that. And uh, then also the simple versus advanced. Well I figure if we go for L_ L_C_D_, we we should have the advanced. Richard Strauss: Mm Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: yeah. Chester Young: So that shouldn't be a problem. Okay, well that's my uh Richard Strauss: Thank you. Chester Young: Uh, you're welcome. Jeremiah Weal: Can I uh do my thing? Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: It uh Richard Strauss: Do your thing, Jeremy Hodges: Do Richard Strauss: Tim. Jeremy Hodges: your thing. Richard Strauss: Bring it on. Jeremiah Weal: Expert map. Okay uh Last week I went to uh Paris and Milan for some trend-watching. For marketing. Our research and development department and I went to Paris and Milan. In Paris and Milan, we uh asked different people, uh differing in age and in income, uh the amount of money to spend, um what they like in design uh and material nowadays. Findings. Our main audience, uh so that's people below forty, uh prefer the following. At first, the colours of fruit. Very basic colours, like Janus explained. Um, fresh colours, uh green, red, uh strawberry red, uh yellow, banana yellow. Um, considering material, um Yeah. They like spongy material, Jeremy Hodges: Spongeball. Jeremiah Weal: like yeah a sponge-ball. Like a s soft material. Janus Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: m uh mentioned it also. I think he did some uh some findings himself. Chester Young: Well, Jeremiah Weal: You Chester Young: the Teletubbies Jeremiah Weal: wer Chester Young: sh Jeremiah Weal: you weren't in Paris? Okay. Like this. Like big uh Richard Strauss: Flashy. Jeremiah Weal: g flashy colours. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Fresh. It's nice, I think. Okay, our secondary audience, uh people above forty a forty years in age, they like the dark traditional colours. Uh Yeah, uh materials like wood Richard Strauss: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: that Richard Strauss: but wood is not a not a material you which you build a a remote control of. Chester Young: Well, you could. Jeremiah Weal: No Chester Young: You Jeremiah Weal: n Chester Young: you Jeremiah Weal: j Chester Young: could. Jeremiah Weal: just Richard Strauss: Yeah Jeremiah Weal: j Richard Strauss: but Jeremiah Weal: just a w Richard Strauss: never seen Chester Young: Well uh Richard Strauss: one. Jeremy Hodges: It'll float. Jeremiah Weal: No, okay, but just just a wooden uh Richard Strauss: Case. Jeremiah Weal: look. Richard Strauss: Oh, a wooden Chester Young: Yeah. Richard Strauss: look, yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Like uh you have those fake uh Jeremy Hodges: Tables. Jeremiah Weal: fake panels on the floor. The that isn't wood anyway, but Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: Okay? But, that's our secondary audience. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: So, uh we decided to take mm yeah the people below forty. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: So, that this doesn't apply. 'Kay, the third. Uh, there're some overall thoughts about new remote controls. They have to look fancy. Um, they should be technological in innovative. That means uh there have to be fancy things in. Uh, and easy to use. But that's common. My personal preferences. We have to aim at a mu at the main audience. And uh, therefore use fresh colours. Richard Strauss: Would you prefer uh uh that you can choose the colour of your uh remote control Jeremiah Weal: Uh, Richard Strauss: or Jeremiah Weal: I'll I'll come to that in a second Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: point. Here, think about removable covers, as seen Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: in mobile telephon telephone market. To customise your own remote control. Like the Nokia uh the Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: removable covers, uh just put a red Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: on it and go to the shop and buy a green one. Uh, a third, material being used uh could well be stuff like rubber. Um, two advantages. Uh, it fits within the current market trends. And uh it adds safety to your remote uh when you drop it. So Uh to come back to your question, I think uh and the people in Milan and Paris also think that uh the rubber should be pretty hard. Like uh seen on regular mobile phones. Actually, they have a lot in common. The phones and the Chester Young: Well, I actually saw a phone that you could use as a remote, so Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Ah. Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Maybe Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Richard Strauss: you could use your remote as a phone. Chester Young: Hey. Jeremy Hodges: Hey. Chester Young: That Richard Strauss: There Chester Young: might Richard Strauss: are numbers Chester Young: be a next Richard Strauss: on Chester Young: step. Richard Strauss: it, so uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, exactly. Uh, in my second sheet of personal preferences, uh we have to reconsider the speech function uh recognition. Uh, it's very innovative. Innovative. Richard Strauss: So that you say um S_P_S_S_, and it goes to Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Richard Strauss: uh Jeremiah Weal: like something. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: speech recognition and stuff. But, we have to keep the cost in uh in mind, but Jeremy Hodges: Twelve Jeremiah Weal: it Jeremy Hodges: fifty uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, it it can be uh very expensive. 'Kay, second. Uh, building games like Snake or Tetris to amuse the younger users. Uh, also the link with uh mobile phones. Richard Strauss: Yeah, but Jeremiah Weal: Uh Richard Strauss: you don't use that th games when you watching television, Jeremiah Weal: No, Richard Strauss: I think. Jeremiah Weal: but Chester Young: Well, Jeremiah Weal: No, Chester Young: yeah. Jeremiah Weal: okay. But you don't use games when you're d when you're making a telephone call. It's just the same. Jeremy Hodges: When your parents are watching some boring program, you can take the remote and do something else. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah, okay. Jeremiah Weal: When you're at college. Chester Young: You take Jeremiah Weal: Uh Richard Strauss: You Chester Young: your Richard Strauss: take Chester Young: uh Richard Strauss: your remote Jeremy Hodges: Take Chester Young: remote Richard Strauss: control Chester Young: with Jeremiah Weal: No. Chester Young: you to school. Richard Strauss: with you. Jeremiah Weal: You al you also take Jeremy Hodges: it. Jeremiah Weal: uh t you take your IPac and go uh play games. Yeah. Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Well, I do that, but Okay, and um And third, I stick with it, the log-in functionality uh with the slogan, take parental control to a new dimension. Jeremy Hodges: Ooh. Chester Young: Very Jeremiah Weal: That's Jeremy Hodges: S Chester Young: nice. Jeremiah Weal: it. Richard Strauss: Uh great. Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Jeremy Hodges: In Okay. Um the interface contents. Well that's a just simple PowerPoint mock-up I want to m make it more as dynamic for you so I'll draw there. But, the main concept is um take one big touch screen. Um, always display the primary buttons clear and visible. Maybe even li like this with uh u uses of a lot of space. And uh make the menu structure changeable. So if you press um system, that's Yeah, well m multiple system options can, maybe five or ten or or one, can fit in. Or maybe even a step further when you want to um t um have some other options that are not programmable with one horizontal button. And um other buttons can may be displayed here if that's necessary. And um well, how do uh do we want to look at uh uh f um Yeah Does a remote look Well, it's you've gotta hold it in one hand. So um the middle like all remotes have to be in a little bit small, so you can put it in inside your hands. And some remotes you can use with your thumb. But I think that's too difficult for this one. So you can make it s a little broader. Yeah. And here? And maybe use your thumb on the on the main buttons. And use your other hands on the menu structure. So here are gonna be the program buttons. One, two, three, four, et cetera. And the the volume control and program control maybe. And, down here, um, I added, this could be one uh big L_C_D_. Um, the menu structure. So you can use it in uh in this way. Um One thing you've gotta keep in mind, keep the remote clear of too much functions at the same time. Um, know that if you are changing the menu structure here, um And well, I still believe you should keep displaying the buttons. But if you're programming the colour of the T_V_, do not display twenty other options that are possible. Just keep it as simple as uh as possible. And do not use too many levels. Do not have to select a screen first and then brightness and then colour and un-plus, and um push plus twenty times. But just the um uh just in one button if possible. And um, well, you kn you all know the T_V_ levels. Um, channel one, two. And when you get to n to uh to ten, ye and want to go back, uh well you have a problem. Just m most most modern T_V_s, you you press one zero, and it goes to ten. And else, to one and through after that. So the s a button less. And um, things like teletext, put them in the menu. Things like um um Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Uh, what do you think about a back-and-forth come-up uh button? Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, yeah Jeremiah Weal: L Jeremy Hodges: w Jeremiah Weal: like in uh internet Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: explorer. Jeremy Hodges: I I find I must trying to uh tell it. And this is program uh plus and minus. Uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah okay, but does it that is for uh going from four to five. Jeremy Hodges: Yes. Jeremiah Weal: But if you go from two to Jeremy Hodges: Or Jeremiah Weal: eight, Jeremy Hodges: if you're watching Jeremiah Weal: and you want Jeremy Hodges: Studio Sports on uh on seventeen, Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: and Jeremiah Weal: and on Jeremy Hodges: your Jeremiah Weal: two. Jeremy Hodges: wife is watching Jeremiah Weal: That you Jeremy Hodges: some Jeremiah Weal: can switch Jeremy Hodges: soap on Jeremiah Weal: switch Jeremy Hodges: two Jeremiah Weal: easy. Jeremy Hodges: Well yes, I think that's a good idea. But um, well m my preference Jeremiah Weal: Yeah it Jeremy Hodges: would Jeremiah Weal: is. Jeremy Hodges: to be put it in the menu structure. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: And if you're using that button a lot of times, well of course the menu will still be displayed on the screen. You just don't have to play games uh in-between. But if you're really switching between two channels, you won't have time uh Jeremiah Weal: Mm Jeremy Hodges: to Jeremiah Weal: no. Jeremy Hodges: d use the other options. Um, yeah already already told that. Jeremiah Weal: That's Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: it. Jeremy Hodges: That's my conclusion. Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Richard Strauss: Oh, okay. Uh I think we can discuss a little about the the three uh kind of revolutionary things uh Tim uh came with. The parental control, the games, and the voice recognition. Uh There's n not uh too much decision on uh that one so uh I think that parental control is a good function to uh to put in the remote. I don't know how you think Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: about it. Jeremy Hodges: Well, I agree, just put it in the menu structure somewhere. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Um, yeah um system Jeremiah Weal: Yeah but Jeremy Hodges: properties, um parental control. Jeremiah Weal: What I see uh How I see it is you put it on the the remote Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: and then you have like a Windows log-on screen with parents, children. Jeremy Hodges: Mm. Jeremiah Weal: Something Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: like that. Jeremy Hodges: Um, Jeremiah Weal: And w Jeremy Hodges: w Jeremiah Weal: when you want Jeremy Hodges: well, Jeremiah Weal: to use Jeremy Hodges: yeah. Jeremiah Weal: the parents uh option, Jeremy Hodges: It it Jeremiah Weal: you Jeremy Hodges: has Jeremiah Weal: have to Jeremy Hodges: to be fast. You don't want to to go down and watch the news at eight o'clock and turn it on and wait twenty seconds for for uh the log-on screen and then remember your code and all kinds Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: of settings. Jeremiah Weal: ok Richard Strauss: No but I think most people uh find it uh much more important that their children don't watch uh sex or violence uh Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Richard Strauss: on the television, and uh wait Jeremy Hodges: Why Richard Strauss: uh ten or fifteen seconds Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Richard Strauss: longer, so they can uh finally watch it uh because Jeremy Hodges: You c Richard Strauss: of Jeremy Hodges: may Richard Strauss: that. Jeremy Hodges: use Richard Strauss: Uh Jeremy Hodges: like when there's uh X_P_, uh a Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: simple log-on, d Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: you just Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: push uh one Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: or two Jeremiah Weal: Pu Jeremy Hodges: or Jeremiah Weal: push Jeremy Hodges: three. Jeremiah Weal: parents. Jeremy Hodges: And if Jeremiah Weal: That Jeremy Hodges: you push Jeremiah Weal: then Jeremy Hodges: parents, Jeremiah Weal: then Jeremy Hodges: then Jeremiah Weal: then Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: you have to uh Jeremy Hodges: To log in. Jeremiah Weal: go to three-digit Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: uh Jeremy Hodges: And if you Jeremiah Weal: log-in. Jeremy Hodges: puts a Jeremiah Weal: Like Jeremy Hodges: ye Jeremiah Weal: two one three. Jeremy Hodges: Uh-huh. Jeremiah Weal: And it's in. Jeremy Hodges: And Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: if you w you push p children, uh you don't have to uh Jeremiah Weal: It automatically Jeremy Hodges: log in, but Jeremiah Weal: goes Jeremy Hodges: you can only Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: watch uh children's channels or uh Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Well Chester Young: I don't know if it's worth uh the time and effort we are going to spend on it. Because well it's a simple function, but it's gonna take a lot of resources and a lot of time um to programming it. Because you'll have to start working with the profiles and such. Jeremiah Weal: Mm-hmm. Chester Young: And I'm not sure if it's actually worth uh investing that much time and effort into it. I don't Richard Strauss: Well Chester Young: know Richard Strauss: I Chester Young: what Richard Strauss: think that's a b there's a big market for it, because uh you Jeremiah Weal: Mm yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah, you read many times in magazines same kind of stuff, and you heard on the news that uh that he Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: V violent Richard Strauss: they Jeremiah Weal: T_V_. Richard Strauss: believe that children uh are influenced by the television, and uh Well, we're we're aiming uh to uh below uh forty uh years. But there are a lot of uh people will below forty who have uh children Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Richard Strauss: in young age uh who who want um to uh not watch uh violent or uh Jeremy Hodges: Well, maybe um some idea on that. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Just make through a remote as it is, Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: but make an option to insert profiles, 'cause if my Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, of Jeremy Hodges: grandad Jeremiah Weal: course. Jeremy Hodges: would buy this remote, he wouldn't want to bother with all all the all the Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: uh things to do. Just make it an option in menu, ins install powerful profiles or something. Richard Strauss: Yeah yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: That's a that's a better idea? Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, w It just has to be w when it's deliver out of the store, Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: it has to be just simple and plain. But Richard Strauss: Yeah, okay. Jeremiah Weal: if you want to install it personally uh If I got kids, and I could choose between uh two remote controls. One Richard Strauss: Yeah, with Jeremiah Weal: uh Richard Strauss: and one without. Jeremiah Weal: w with parent control and one without, and I would would buy the one with. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Um, b Jeremiah Weal: I Jeremy Hodges: well, Jeremiah Weal: th Jeremy Hodges: still Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: some question I have about how to incorporate those ones. You're thinking about some channels they uh cannot see, but well, I I when I think, oh yeah, for the f for all the standard channels, and only for maybe after ten o'clock uh in the evening violent films and movies uh will come and uh maybe maybe some some timing uh will be uh needed Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: instead of uh of channels, because if you're watching uh, I don't know, you're in the at day uh, cartoons will come up m on maybe Friday night. I don't know. Richard Strauss: Yeah, maybe it can work with show view. Uh, you you can control your video recorder with show view. Uh, when you tick in a number, it will uh start and end uh recording. But maybe there's some option that uh that t uh the kind of show view numbers are violent, and that they are blocked out. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, the disadvantage vantage is that someone will has to send all the show-view numbers of the programs that Richard Strauss: That's Jeremy Hodges: they Richard Strauss: true. Jeremy Hodges: remotes Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: and edit it all, will have Jeremiah Weal: Yeah Jeremy Hodges: to Jeremiah Weal: but Jeremy Hodges: decide Jeremiah Weal: yeah Jeremy Hodges: uh Jeremiah Weal: but that isn't possible. Jeremy Hodges: That isn't possible. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: But, well, if you want to I i i if we in incorporate uh the parental control, uh let's say we do, and and well whatever, cho uh child just goes up to the T_V_ and presses up for instance. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: Well uh, nob nobody's stopping the child from uh well checking uh the channel. Jeremiah Weal: Hmm. Jeremy Hodges: Well, Chester Young: But that Jeremy Hodges: yeah you could say if parental control is only it it'll go from fourteen to sixteen with the page-up then, but Chester Young: Well, I'm not sure because um for that Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: to happen, you d you will have to receive a signal from the uh remote control, so it would, yeah, have to be constant uh constant signalling. Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Chester Young: What m what may be better is to incorporate an uh a separate device that uh that you can program with the remote control. And that uh provides parental control, for instance. And that's just an optional uh device. So there's n that's there's uh besides uh the remote control, you'll have a separate uh Richard Strauss: I wouldn't put it in an optional device. That that then then then it becomes too much, I think. Chester Young: Yeah? Richard Strauss: If we do it, we Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Richard Strauss: we Jeremiah Weal: and Richard Strauss: must do it in a kind of ways that like a profile, a parent profile, and a family Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, Richard Strauss: profile, Jeremy Hodges: on a separate Richard Strauss: and otherwise. Jeremy Hodges: menu uh option. Jeremiah Weal: And and you know w uh when you install another device, uh children can still go up to the T_V_, p pop open uh the thing Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: and and and g Chester Young: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: go Chester Young: that's Jeremiah Weal: to a Chester Young: true. Jeremiah Weal: channel. Chester Young: That's true, but uh at same instant, same happens when uh you have remote control. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, yeah of course. Chester Young: So Jeremiah Weal: But Chester Young: But, only difference is uh the uh the people buying the remote control will now get the f added feature of parental control, and those Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: people wouldn't uh necessary want it. Jeremiah Weal: Ah it's Yeah. Chester Young: So, you Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, okay. Chester Young: you'd Jeremiah Weal: But it's Chester Young: be Jeremiah Weal: just an an added feature Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: feature. Richard Strauss: Okay. And what do you uh guys think of the games in the voice recognition? I personally think that that becomes too much. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, well yeah, I Richard Strauss: It's more like it gets you to the functionality, Jeremy Hodges: A mail Richard Strauss: but Jeremy Hodges: too from management that it's very popular to use voice recon recognition. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: But I don't think when you're watching T_V_ uh, hearing loud noises from Jeremiah Weal: Mm yeah. Jeremy Hodges: the T_V_, Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: someone screaming one, and you f the channel switches, uh Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, like f voice recognition is too much, I think. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: But Richard Strauss: Okay. And games? Jeremiah Weal: games. It doesn't Chester Young: Yeah. I can Jeremy Hodges: W Chester Young: see games Jeremy Hodges: you Chester Young: happening. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: can put it on chip anyway, so Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: uh Jeremiah Weal: That that Richard Strauss: That Jeremiah Weal: doesn't Richard Strauss: would Jeremiah Weal: c Jeremy Hodges: As Jeremiah Weal: that doesn't Jeremy Hodges: long as Jeremiah Weal: co Jeremy Hodges: it's isn't a primary feature of the remote, but Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: uh Jeremiah Weal: that that doesn't cost a lot of Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: extra resources, Richard Strauss: So Jeremiah Weal: I Richard Strauss: that Jeremiah Weal: think. Richard Strauss: will uh that that that must be in it, you think? Chester Young: Yeah, that will be nice. Richard Strauss: Okay. So the games uh are in it. The voice recognition are not. And the parental control are Jeremy Hodges: Optional Richard Strauss: optional? Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, it's Jeremy Hodges: in Jeremiah Weal: it's in it. But Jeremy Hodges: But Jeremiah Weal: too ma Jeremy Hodges: how we do it? Jeremiah Weal: I I think so, but Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Well, I think also it's a good idea, buts very difficult to incorporate. So we should make it too complex. Is Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremy Hodges: t some menu uh function, you choose parental control, and maybe four files will emerge from menu where put Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: it on. But uh how how it's gonna work uh uh Richard Strauss: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: will f Richard Strauss: okay. Jeremy Hodges: be a problem. Richard Strauss: Uh, but uh will there uh uh Like the first idea uh from uh You can buy it without and uh with parental contr Jeremy Hodges: Mm-hmm. Richard Strauss: control? Or are we Jeremy Hodges: Well Richard Strauss: going to put it in and uh just Jeremy Hodges: Ye Richard Strauss: uh Jeremy Hodges: I I think best would be uh to put it in and make Jeremiah Weal: To put Jeremy Hodges: it an menu option. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: You can Jeremiah Weal: to Jeremy Hodges: put Jeremiah Weal: put Jeremy Hodges: on Jeremiah Weal: it in always. Richard Strauss: Yeah? Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. And you can just uh s when you buy it, you can select um personal preference, parental control on, and the password or Richard Strauss: Mm yeah. Jeremy Hodges: something. Chester Young: Well, I don't know. I I figure if you had two different remotes, you could bo choose one with uh well uh uh a receiver in it. So you could actually easily uh build in uh parental control. But it would would be uh more expensive. So, a and that that way uh you could make cheap model and a expensive model. Could ma make the uh simple model and the deluxe model, uh for instance. Jeremy Hodges: Oh, it's a p Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, but T_V_s aren't capable of sending. Chester Young: Yes they are. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah? Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: I thought they were just Richard Strauss: Yeah, Chester Young: Yeah, Richard Strauss: you yo Chester Young: you you Jeremiah Weal: a Chester Young: have Jeremiah Weal: able Chester Young: some Jeremiah Weal: to Chester Young: T_V_s Jeremiah Weal: receive. Chester Young: any Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, some. Richard Strauss: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: But Richard Strauss: but most often Chester Young: Yeah. Richard Strauss: not. Chester Young: That is true, that is true. Jeremy Hodges: Well, maybe you just have to restrict it to what programs, where the parent says, you cannot watch channel seven, nine, and ten, Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: and you cannot watch all channels after ten o'clock. And there's just some little uh clock in Chester Young: Well Jeremy Hodges: the Chester Young: yeah, Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: remote. Chester Young: you could Jeremiah Weal: j Chester Young: you could easily Jeremiah Weal: just some rules. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Chester Young: you could easily you could easily to the mote control. But you still have the problem about uh the television itself. Jeremy Hodges: No, no, it's very simple. There uh th I h I've seen some of remotes who have a clock in it. Chester Young: Yeah, yeah yeah. Jeremy Hodges: So, the remote does doesn't transmit when it's after Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, okay. Jeremy Hodges: twelve Jeremiah Weal: But, Jeremy Hodges: clock. Jeremiah Weal: on the T_V_ Jeremy Hodges: Yeah? Jeremiah Weal: at least my T_V_, is a is a compartment which you can press. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: And Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: there are buttons uh behind Chester Young: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: it Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: which you can use, if Jeremy Hodges: Well, Jeremiah Weal: you d if Jeremy Hodges: that's Jeremiah Weal: you don't if you don't have a Jeremy Hodges: To put it very blunt, that's not our problem. Just have um the parents buy uh some Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: glue and uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: It's not not a part of the remote. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, of course. Chester Young: Yeah, that is true. Yeah, that is true. Jeremy Hodges: You have to f Chester Young: Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: you could you Jeremy Hodges: Uh, Chester Young: could you Jeremy Hodges: or Chester Young: could go Jeremy Hodges: make Chester Young: like Jeremy Hodges: it ourselves Chester Young: uh that Jeremy Hodges: very Chester Young: that would Jeremy Hodges: diffic Chester Young: actually make uh things a lot more easy. You Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: could just blame it on television and Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: uh make it their problem. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: Yeah, I figured I figure we could do that. Yeah, Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Chester Young: yeah, sure. Jeremiah Weal: Or Chester Young: Uh, Jeremiah Weal: j Chester Young: I'm Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: not sure what marketing thinks about it, but Jeremiah Weal: Ah I have to uh consult my legal advisor about it. Richard Strauss: Okay. So uh I think we have decided on the things that Uh from Janus, the energy, the combination between battery and kinetic. The case will be double-curved and uh rubber, in a fr flashy fruity colour uh that with cover is removable. The buttons will be uh touch-screen. Uh but there may not be too many buttons. And in the the menu structure, uh there must not to be uh Five minutes to go. Uh, too uh too many levels. And uh it must be easy to use. The parental control will be incorporated, but it must be not too complex. And the games are in it. So Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Richard Strauss: I think we have uh we Jeremiah Weal: Consensus. Richard Strauss: have decided uh, okay. Uh, little more. Jeremiah Weal: Oh. Oh. Jeremy Hodges: Oh. Jeremiah Weal: I I have one thing left. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Maybe for uh Jerome. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah? I'm listening. Jeremiah Weal: Um, the views. Maybe it's uh handy to build in an expert view and a simple view. Richard Strauss: Like a like a moat or s or something. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Um, Jeremiah Weal: Like at Chester Young: User Jeremiah Weal: In Jeremy Hodges: well Chester Young: profile. Jeremiah Weal: the experts view, you have Richard Strauss: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: a lot Richard Strauss: but Jeremiah Weal: of Richard Strauss: you Jeremiah Weal: more Richard Strauss: have that Jeremiah Weal: buttons. Jeremy Hodges: What Richard Strauss: in Jeremy Hodges: I Richard Strauss: the Jeremy Hodges: was thinking about is just a menu structure, when you don't use it is simple. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: And Richard Strauss: You Jeremy Hodges: when Richard Strauss: use Jeremy Hodges: you push Richard Strauss: the Jeremy Hodges: uh system properties, uh entire list pops up with e ev all kind of f stuff you can program. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: Mm yeah, okay. Richard Strauss: It's Jeremiah Weal: Fairly Richard Strauss: already Jeremiah Weal: enough. Richard Strauss: incorporated Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: a little in Chester Young: Well Richard Strauss: that Chester Young: yeah, you Richard Strauss: concept. Chester Young: you could actually build in a function that you can program it yourself, for the more advanced users. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, wh which buttons you Chester Young: Yeah, Jeremiah Weal: like Chester Young: which Jeremiah Weal: or not. Chester Young: buttons do you want to in it. Because you can Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: you can like build in a back-forward button, and uh some po somebody would just want to watch two channels. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Just leave the other numbers away. Richard Strauss: Okay. Chester Young: Yeah, you could you could m have people want uh Richard Strauss: We Chester Young: want Richard Strauss: take Chester Young: that. Richard Strauss: it to the other meeting, okay? Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Richard Strauss: I have a little Jeremiah Weal: Go on. Richard Strauss: w uh little Chester Young: Ah, yeah, Richard Strauss: chat Chester Young: sure. Richard Strauss: to do and uh then we uh Jeremiah Weal: A Richard Strauss: finish. Jeremiah Weal: little Richard Strauss: I went Jeremiah Weal: chat. Richard Strauss: to uh a master class and uh uh two things uh are uh are uh can come in handy uh for us. First thing uh is uh we talked about knowledge uh management. Knowledge engineering and uh uh the fact that uh that uh that the idea of knowledge, uh sharing and learning knowledge from other companies is uh like that. It's it's uh very hot at the moment, so it's it's mostly for the management expert to to look what other Jeremiah Weal: Marketing. Richard Strauss: uh marketing or did I said management? Jeremiah Weal: Management. Richard Strauss: Oh. Just talking about Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, Richard Strauss: myself. Jeremiah Weal: that's my function, Richard Strauss: Uh Jeremiah Weal: to Richard Strauss: W Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Go on. Richard Strauss: What other companies uh had to uh also with the the the the marketing campaign when they put on a newer remote, just some uh Yeah. Import export. And uh Jeremy Hodges: Som Richard Strauss: another Jeremy Hodges: some Richard Strauss: one. Jeremy Hodges: bench-marker. Richard Strauss: Uh, they're a ha they're at Yeah, benchmarking, that's the word I saw. I uh couldn't uh Okay, uh another uh thing is uh there were there there was a survey, and um uh it came out that um people like to buy things from a single large provider, instead of those who uh are partnering uh with us. So, we must uh we must bring it as if uh Real Reaction is uh is big company, uh a trustful company, and uh Jeremiah Weal: How Richard Strauss: it has m Jeremiah Weal: I know a marketing name for our product. Richard Strauss: Okay. Jeremiah Weal: R_ th R_ to the third power. R_ three. Real Reaction remote. Richard Strauss: I had a Jeremy Hodges: Oh. Richard Strauss: I had another idea to put uh uh the whole the whole idea of uh Real Reaction and uh uh uh Jeremiah Weal: Mm-hmm? Richard Strauss: a single brand and uh uh that kind of thing. When you uh put on remote, you see a kind of a just like when you telephone, you see a little Jeremy Hodges: Uh, Richard Strauss: uh animation. Jeremy Hodges: logo. Jeremiah Weal: Bling. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah? Richard Strauss: Real Reaction remote. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Richard Strauss: And uh with the with the with the motto, we put fashion in electronics. And Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: then you go uh Jeremiah Weal: Yeah, okay, but it has to be like a split Richard Strauss: The Jeremiah Weal: second, because Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Jeremiah Weal: you have to put in a Jeremy Hodges: Well, Jeremiah Weal: code also and Jeremy Hodges: you can show somebody a logo for point five seconds, they'll still remember it. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: Yeah. Jeremy Hodges: And it it l Richard Strauss: But Jeremy Hodges: linger Richard Strauss: w Jeremy Hodges: on every time you see Richard Strauss: th Jeremy Hodges: it. Richard Strauss: the idea from this uh thing is that we must present it as a as we are a a single large provider who will stand on our own. Chester Young: Well, if you if you have the l L_C_D_ screen, you can you can uh have a small logo i uh at the Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Chester Young: bottom. And it could just stay Jeremiah Weal: That Chester Young: there. Jeremiah Weal: spins Richard Strauss: Mm Jeremiah Weal: around Richard Strauss: yep, Chester Young: Yeah, that Richard Strauss: yeah. Chester Young: spins Jeremiah Weal: like Chester Young: around Jeremiah Weal: all Chester Young: or Jeremiah Weal: the Chester Young: something. Jeremiah Weal: time. Jeremy Hodges: Very annoying. Richard Strauss: Also also. Chester Young: Hmm. Richard Strauss: But we we are uh Jeremiah Weal: It it's just like a uh globe in Internet Richard Strauss: Yeah Jeremiah Weal: Explorer. Richard Strauss: yeah y yeah Chester Young: Yeah. Richard Strauss: yeah. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Chester Young: Yeah, something Richard Strauss: Okay, Chester Young: like that. Richard Strauss: but Chester Young: A Richard Strauss: uh Chester Young: small icon. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah, Richard Strauss: think about Jeremy Hodges: I Richard Strauss: that kind Jeremy Hodges: It's Richard Strauss: of Jeremy Hodges: ok Richard Strauss: things. Jeremy Hodges: For Richard Strauss: That's Jeremiah Weal: Okay. Richard Strauss: what they said Jeremy Hodges: f Richard Strauss: in the master class. Jeremy Hodges: Oh, for the next meeting, right? Richard Strauss: N Uh, Jeremiah Weal: Who uh Richard Strauss: next meeting starts in thirty minutes. So uh maybe you can go to Paris and Milan uh Jeremiah Weal: Who Richard Strauss: once again. Jeremiah Weal: who gave you the master class? Richard Strauss: The master class? Jeremiah Weal: Ronald Betenberg? Richard Strauss: Franz Mehler's. Jeremiah Weal: Okay, thanks. Richard Strauss: Uh, very special, uh next uh session. Uh idea that you uh the the industrial uh development uh centre and uh user interface uh will work together on a prototype. And uh will drawing it on the SMARTboard. So that's a kinda new uh thing. Jeremiah Weal: Ah. Richard Strauss: And um, Jeremiah Weal will uh will uh ke he will be keeping busy with the product uh evaluation. But the most uh specific instructions will be sent to you by email. Jeremy Hodges: Um Chester Young: So we're going to work together Jeremy Hodges: Stay here Chester Young: right Jeremy Hodges: and Chester Young: now? Richard Strauss: Yeah, the well, uh dids this what I uh what I heard. I Jeremiah Weal: In the master class. Richard Strauss: Not in the master class. Jeremiah Weal: Yeah. Richard Strauss: So you uh just wait for the specific instructions and uh Jeremy Hodges: P_. Richard Strauss: But I think it was a very uh very good uh session, uh gentlemen. Jeremy Hodges: Ah, Chester Young: Definitely. Jeremy Hodges: no new Jeremiah Weal: Jeremiah Weal Jeremy Hodges: email. Jeremiah Weal: too. Richard Strauss: I will Jeremy Hodges: Okay. Richard Strauss: thank you all. Chester Young: Well thank you too. Jeremy Hodges: Thank you. Thank Richard Strauss: And Jeremy Hodges: you Richard Strauss: uh Jeremy Hodges: very much. Jeremiah Weal: Thank you too, Richard Strauss: Give Jeremiah Weal Jeremiah Weal: lord. Richard Strauss: a good evaluation. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Uh-huh. Jeremiah Weal: 'Kay guys, Chester Young: You wish. Jeremiah Weal: lot of success. Chester Young: M Jeremy Hodges: See you. Chester Young: Aye? Cheers. Richard Strauss: Cheers. See you in a half hour. Chester Young: Hey. Richard Strauss: But keep an eye on your uh Chester Young: Yeah, uh Richard Strauss: laptops Chester Young: I'm not sure Richard Strauss: for Chester Young: if Richard Strauss: a Chester Young: we Richard Strauss: real Chester Young: uh we Richard Strauss: uh Chester Young: Because I saw something about individual actions. Richard Strauss: Yeah, but th there's there's still the my uh instructions that you will work together. Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Here? Or uh Richard Strauss: That's Jeremy Hodges: Yeah. Richard Strauss: not my problem. Jeremy Hodges: If you got Richard Strauss: Bye-bye. Jeremy Hodges: a No. So Stupid Chester Young: Well, Jeremy Hodges: manager. Chester Young: yeah. Richard Strauss: Richard Strauss always works alone. Chester Young: Right. Uh Do you have new email? Jeremy Hodges: No. Don't Chester Young: Hmm. Jeremy Hodges: get what's

Richard Strauss went over the agenda. Chester Young gave a presentation about the options for power source, materials and components. He recommended using kinetic energy, and having a double-curved rubber case. The group decided to combine batteries and kinetic energy. Jeremiah Weal reported on current trends among young people for fresh fruity colours and spongy material. He explained that the remote should look fancy, and be technologically innovative and easy to use. He suggested using removable customisable covers, speech recognition, installing some games into the remote, and implementing a parental control feature. Jeremy Hodges talked about having a simple layout with not many buttons. Most features will be controlled through the menu. The group discussed the various options and decided to use games but not speech recognition. After a lot of discussion they decided to implement a simple parental control feature. Richard Strauss talked about what he had learned at a masterclass on knowledge management. The group discussed how to incorporate the company logo and motto onto the remote, including having an animated logo on the touch screen. Richard Strauss gave the group instructions about what to do before the next meeting.

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Merle Thompkins: Hello. Merle Thompkins: Dang it. Michael Feliciano: And then you have to place your laptop on the marked spot. Merle Thompkins: Alright. Michael Feliciano: It's important to place your laptop exactly on the marked spot over here. Timothy Judy: Okay. Timothy Judy: No, that's okay. Timothy Judy: your mouse. Merle Thompkins: What? Timothy Judy: No mouse needed? Merle Thompkins: I've got a touch-pad. Do you know Timothy Judy: Mm. Merle Thompkins: how how I can wake it up? Timothy Judy: A touch-pad? Merle Thompkins: No, my laptop. Timothy Judy: Slap it. Merle Thompkins: You with your brilliant ideas. I don't know if I can touch the power button. Do you know how how I can wake Timothy Judy: Is Merle Thompkins: it up? Michael Feliciano: No. Yeah. Try the power button. Merle Thompkins: Oh. Come on, move it. Timothy Judy: Um Merle Thompkins: Now, wake up, bitch. Michael Feliciano: Huh. Timothy Judy: F_ five. F_ five. Randall Clark: I've lost my screen. Uh Merle Thompkins: Yeah, so did I. I closed Timothy Judy: I don't. Merle Thompkins: it. That wasn that wasn't very smart, I guess. Get back to Merle Thompkins. Yes. Randall Clark: I closed the Merle Thompkins: I closed it. Timothy Judy: You've got your name. Michael Feliciano: Yeah, my name is name. Merle Thompkins: No, I didn't restart it, I just closed it. Yes. Timothy Judy: Hope it working. Merle Thompkins: Alright. Randall Clark: No. Timothy Judy: Never close your laptop. Michael Feliciano: Yeah? Everybody's ready? Merle Thompkins: Great. Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: Great. Merle Thompkins: Thanks. Michael Feliciano: Well, welcome to the kick-off meeting. I uh forgot to put my name over here, it's uh it's Martin. Uh, so you all know. Well, this is the agenda for today. Well, the opening I'm doing right now. Uh, we gonna do some acquaintance acquaintance things. Uh give some um examples of the tool training, project plan discussion and the closing. We have twenty five minutes. Okay, the project aim is to design a new remote control. Merle Thompkins: Mm-hmm. Michael Feliciano: Uh, some of the oje objectives are that is has to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. So Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: now we all know what our goal is. Um, I oh forget I forget the whole acquaintance part, but we we all know each other. We all know each other's names. Joost, Merle Thompkins: Yes. Timothy Judy: What Michael Feliciano: Guido, Timothy Judy: is your Randall Clark: Yes. Timothy Judy: name? Michael Feliciano: Antek. Randall Clark: Antek. Timothy Judy: Antek Ahmet. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: And Michael Feliciano: I Timothy Judy: Joost. Michael Feliciano: think we uh al already uh Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: been through that part. Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: Okay, it consists of uh three levels of design. Uh we begin with the functional design, then we go to the conceptual design and the detailed design. Every uh level of design consists of some individual work, and we uh close it with a meeting. You all received an email with a example of our explanation of what uh the particular level of design uh means to the different uh functions, and uh you p you probably read that already, Merle Thompkins: Yes. Timothy Judy: Yes. Michael Feliciano: so I don't have to tell you about that. Okay, first we're gonna um uh gonna try some different things with the tools we have over here, so you get acquainted with these uh um uh meeting tools. We have the smart-boards, uh the thes those two boards. This is the presentation boards, wh which one I'm using right now. You can uh um there's a document folder called um the sh shared document folder. You can upload your uh documents to that folder and then you can open them over here, so you can do your PowerPoint presentations on this screen. We also have the white-board. Uh, we're gonna Timothy Judy: Can Michael Feliciano: skip Timothy Judy: we see the Michael Feliciano: through Timothy Judy: white-board Michael Feliciano: th Timothy Judy: on our laptops? Michael Feliciano: No, no. Just on the on the screen over there. Timothy Judy: that Michael Feliciano: Oh, no. Timothy Judy: X_B_K_ Michael Feliciano: Probably is, but I don't Timothy Judy: but Michael Feliciano: know if the software is on the laptop. Is is if it's mainly a thing for in the meeting, so I don't Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: think it's I don't know if it's important. This an explanation of the smart-boards. There is a tool-bar over here. It's quite simple. You have the the pen function, eraser function. It's like a very simple uh paint application. Uh, we well, we use the same file during uh the whole day, and uh you can make new sheets by uh by pu puttin pressing on the blank button. It works like this. Oh. If pen is selected, yes. Oh, no no. Timothy Judy: With that pen? Michael Feliciano: It's not But it is pen. It's not working like a pen yet. Timothy Judy: Mm. Michael Feliciano: Huh. Michael Feliciano: Huh. Timothy Judy: Mm. Michael Feliciano: It's doing some stuff now. Timothy Judy: Little bit Michael Feliciano: So Timothy Judy: slower. Michael Feliciano: you can use a pen. You can use an eraser. And you can make new uh fi uh new blanks, and you can change uh the line width and the colour of the pen by pressing on forward, which y you have to select pen format. And then select current colour or line width. So, it's quite easy. Uh well, now you're all uh acquainted with the different tools. Right, we're gonna try out the electronic white-boards. Uh, every participant should draw his favourite animal and some of its favourite characteristics, on blank sheets with different colours, with different pen widths. Uh, I'll start off then. I'll use this uh same sheet. Alright. Oh, let Merle Thompkins think. Different colours. Oh. Michael Feliciano: Well, I'm gonna draw um a p piranha. Uh, a fish. Timothy Judy: piranha. Okay. Michael Feliciano: Uh. Michael Feliciano: Mm-hmm. Timothy Judy: Oh. Michael Feliciano: I'm gonna use some different colour now. Some a little white. Looks like a fish. Think it is. Oh. Michael Feliciano: Oh. Uh, colour. This is black? I think so. Timothy Judy: Yellow Michael Feliciano: Oh. Oh, this is just uh useless uh drawings but Oh teeth. I need teeth. Well, they're not supposed to be green, or whatever colour this is. Timothy Judy: Hmm. Michael Feliciano: Okay. What was uh I have su to sum up Timothy Judy: Different. Michael Feliciano: its favourite characteris Well, I like its uh sharp razor sharp teeth. Plus, uh the the big uh forehead and uh a small uh, well a small actual face. And I like its overall uh aggressive look and Well, that's what I like about uh piranha. Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: I think that's kind of what uh the intention should be. Well, who wants to be next? Merle Thompkins: Nobody, I guess. Timothy Judy: I will Michael Feliciano: You Timothy Judy: try. Michael Feliciano: go, Guido? Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: I will try. Uh Michael Feliciano: Uh, make a new sheet. Uh, it's by pressing on blank. Timothy Judy: Blank? Michael Feliciano: Yep. Timothy Judy: Okay. Then pen again? Michael Feliciano: Yep. Timothy Judy: Okay. Okay, um Merle Thompkins: Format. Timothy Judy: control. Timothy Judy: Uh Ah, purple. Um, I don't know what my uh favourite uh animal is, but the easiest animal I can think is is a bird. Uh I will Merle Thompkins: You know, Timothy Judy: That's my bird. Merle Thompkins: I thought of that actually. Timothy Judy: Yeah? Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Timothy Judy: Isn't it quite it's a little bit light. Uh, another colour maybe. A red one. A small one. Uh, line width. Two? Three. Oh that's okay. That's another one. Michael Feliciano: Well, tell us something about Timothy Judy: Ano Michael Feliciano: uh your favourite characteristics of these uh particular Timothy Judy: Uh Michael Feliciano: birds. Merle Thompkins: Its simplicity. Timothy Judy: uh it's a Yeah, it's uh the most simple uh animal I know, I think. Um, I don't know. Maybe because uh there's there's some s uh free uh maybe in the sky Michael Feliciano: Oh, okay. Timothy Judy: or something like that. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: Maybe a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. Michael Feliciano: Okay. No, uh Timothy Judy: So Michael Feliciano: it's clear. Timothy Judy: more uh birds? Michael Feliciano: N no no. We get your point. Timothy Judy: Okay, Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: okay, Michael Feliciano: Who wants to be next? Timothy Judy: okay. Merle Thompkins: Yeah, whatever. I'll go next. Thanks. I haven't Timothy Judy: M Merle Thompkins: got a favourite animal too, so Timothy Judy: Pictionary. Merle Thompkins: Oh. What should I draw? Timothy Judy: A cow. Michael Feliciano: Oh. Merle Thompkins: Thank you, I'll draw a penguin. Timothy Judy: Okay. Merle Thompkins: Yeah. I'll draw a penguin. Whatever. I can't draw, so you can start to laugh already. Michael Feliciano: I'll do Merle Thompkins: Whatever. Michael Feliciano: so. Merle Thompkins: Something like that. Merle Thompkins: Come on. Timothy Judy: Yeah, it's little bit hard. Merle Thompkins: Mm hmm hmm, orange. Timothy Judy: Orange, of course. Merle Thompkins: Whatever. Merle Thompkins: Oh, it's better than your bird. Timothy Judy: Uh yeah. Merle Thompkins: Everything's better than your bird. Timothy Judy: Yeah. True. Merle Thompkins: Whatever. Hey, it's blue. No. Whatever. Um, I like its ugliness and uh Yeah, whatever. The way it walks or whatever. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: Your turn. Randall Clark: 'Kay. Merle Thompkins: Drawing. Randall Clark: I'm going to draw a cat. I don't know why, but a cat is a very uh smart animal. And you can have them at home. Which is not as the case with uh with bingwings and Michael Feliciano: Well, you can have a piranha at home. Randall Clark: Ye yes, Michael Feliciano: Huh. Randall Clark: yeah. Merle Thompkins: Or a line. Timothy Judy: A little Merle Thompkins: I Timothy Judy: bit. Merle Thompkins: mean a bird. Timothy Judy: Yeah. Don't mess with my birds, yeah. Merle Thompkins: Hmm. It's a handicapped Randall Clark: from Merle Thompkins: cat. Randall Clark: it. Timothy Judy: cat. Michael Feliciano: I don't think uh I don't think uh Darwin would agree with that. Randall Clark: It's Ah, it's not scared. He's crying but Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: He's crying because it's ugl because of his ugliness. Michael Feliciano: What do you like about it then? Randall Clark: Uh it's i most cats are small. Michael Feliciano: Oh, okay. Randall Clark: You can handle them. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Okay. Okay, Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: and then we are uh through the tool training, I guess. Merle Thompkins: I wouldn't call it training, but Michael Feliciano: Okay, this is uh something about the project finance. The selling price of our remote control is gonna be twenty five Euros. And our profit aim is fifteen million Euros. We're very ambitious on this one. The market range is international, so it's gonna be sold world-wide, and the production cost should be a maximum of twelve Euro fifty per remote control. So that's clear. Yeah? Timothy Judy: Okay. Merle Thompkins: Alright. Michael Feliciano: Okay, we're now gonna discuss some stuff when well, we're gonna brainstorm about uh what kind of kemoro romo remote control it's gonna be. Uh, well tell Merle Thompkins about your experiences with the remote controls. Do you have uh know what good experiences with remote controls? Or do they Randall Clark: Yes. Michael Feliciano: annoy you sometimes? Are they difficult to understand, or maybe they don't interact with different kind of uh Timothy Judy: Hmm. Michael Feliciano: equipment Merle Thompkins: I don't Michael Feliciano: very Merle Thompkins: th Michael Feliciano: well? Merle Thompkins: I don't think the four of us got problems with remote controls, but Michael Feliciano: Yeah, Merle Thompkins: if Michael Feliciano: okay. Merle Thompkins: you see elderly people, all these buttons, and then they buy new Timothy Judy: Different. Merle Thompkins: T_V_ because their previous one was stolen or whatever. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: And then a totally different remote control with with different functions on different places, and half of the functions a are removed, or whatever. Uh, so I think what we need is is a clear uh remote control with uh grouped buttons, you know. All th all the buttons which apply to the text functions in in one uh Michael Feliciano: Different functions Merle Thompkins: Well, Michael Feliciano: of Merle Thompkins: one Michael Feliciano: of Merle Thompkins: area or Michael Feliciano: uh Merle Thompkins: whatever, not like the button to enter text on top of the remote control and the button to um, yeah, to minimise it to this this or whatever o o Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: other functions totally somewhere else. I Michael Feliciano: Yeah. Merle Thompkins: think we should group them. And same Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: for the for the volume buttons and the Michael Feliciano: And uh, Merle Thompkins: the Michael Feliciano: is Merle Thompkins: t Michael Feliciano: it gonna be a remote control that's um what it can be used for different kind of equipment, like your T_V_ and your Merle Thompkins: Well Michael Feliciano: home Merle Thompkins: I was Michael Feliciano: stereo? Merle Thompkins: I was Timothy Judy: Yeah. Merle Thompkins: thinking Michael Feliciano: Uh Merle Thompkins: uh since a T_V_ is uh mostly used together with a V_C_R_ or D_V_D_ player or Michael Feliciano: Mm-hmm. Merle Thompkins: recorder, and not with a stereo, Michael Feliciano: Mm-hmm. Merle Thompkins: I think it should be good to include functions for V_C_R_s and D_V_D_ players, Michael Feliciano: But uh, Merle Thompkins: recorders. Michael Feliciano: the D_V_D_ players and home cinema sets often Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: double as stereo hi-fi sets probably. It's what, from Timothy Judy: But Michael Feliciano: my Timothy Judy: isn't Michael Feliciano: experience. Merle Thompkins: I Timothy Judy: it Merle Thompkins: don't know. Hi-fi set is uh Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: not often used uh as I know of in combination with television. Michael Feliciano: But we gonna Timothy Judy: It's only for television, I thought. Merle Thompkins: Yes. Timothy Judy: Not Michael Feliciano: Oh, it is only for televis Timothy Judy: I thought it was only for television. So Merle Thompkins: Yes, it is only for television, Timothy Judy: so we Merle Thompkins: but Timothy Judy: probably Merle Thompkins: uh Timothy Judy: don't Michael Feliciano: So wha Timothy Judy: have Michael Feliciano: what Timothy Judy: to have to uh Merle Thompkins: Well Timothy Judy: have Michael Feliciano: What Timothy Judy: the functions Michael Feliciano: wha Timothy Judy: for D_V_D_ player Michael Feliciano: what Merle Thompkins: well Timothy Judy: or Michael Feliciano: uh Merle Thompkins: we we're Michael Feliciano: what Merle Thompkins: gonna Timothy Judy: V_C_R_. Merle Thompkins: brainstorm Michael Feliciano: document Merle Thompkins: about that. If we think it's useful, we do it. Michael Feliciano: But, where where did it uh Where did you find that? Timothy Judy: Uh, in the email. Michael Feliciano: Oh, okay. Merle Thompkins: That's Timothy Judy: I thought Merle Thompkins: right. It's a television Timothy Judy: it said Merle Thompkins: remote Timothy Judy: uh Merle Thompkins: control. But Timothy Judy: Yeah, Randall Clark: Yes, Timothy Judy: television Merle Thompkins: I Timothy Judy: remote Merle Thompkins: was thinking Timothy Judy: control. Merle Thompkins: since it Michael Feliciano: Yeah, Merle Thompkins: is Michael Feliciano: but Merle Thompkins: useful Michael Feliciano: most Merle Thompkins: with Michael Feliciano: television Merle Thompkins: D_V_D_ Michael Feliciano: remote controls support other functions as well. Randall Clark: Yes, that's Michael Feliciano: So we can Randall Clark: uh Michael Feliciano: No, Timothy Judy: True. Randall Clark: something Michael Feliciano: we Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: have to Randall Clark: extras. Michael Feliciano: think about that. Timothy Judy: True. Michael Feliciano: Okay, uh Merle Thompkins: Yep. Michael Feliciano: but uh we've gonna put some a uh is is it so user-friendliness, is a is a pri priority in this Merle Thompkins: Yeah, Randall Clark: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: case, Merle Thompkins: also Timothy Judy: Yeah, Merle Thompkins: no Michael Feliciano: or Merle Thompkins: one's gonna Timothy Judy: yeah. Merle Thompkins: buy it. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: Yeah. Merle Thompkins: I guess. Randall Clark: Only the Timothy Judy: True. Randall Clark: experts. Michael Feliciano: Well, Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: this the maybe is uh some aspect of the uh, or or some point at at which we can excel by making it very useful. That w Well, then you're you're the usability uh man, so this uh gonna be a Timothy Judy: Oh Michael Feliciano: very Timothy Judy: my Michael Feliciano: important Timothy Judy: God. Michael Feliciano: task for you then. Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Well, other ideas? How can we make it trendy or something? Do uh by Randall Clark: Uh, Michael Feliciano: just sh shape Randall Clark: to go Michael Feliciano: and the look Randall Clark: with Michael Feliciano: of it? Randall Clark: to go with fashion Michael Feliciano: Maybe Randall Clark: and Michael Feliciano: a can opener underneath it? I don't Timothy Judy: For the Michael Feliciano: know. Timothy Judy: bear. Michael Feliciano: Or someth something Timothy Judy: Uh Michael Feliciano: special, like uh M_P_ three player inside Timothy Judy: I Michael Feliciano: of it, Timothy Judy: I uh, no Michael Feliciano: or uh Timothy Judy: I Michael Feliciano: Oh, Timothy Judy: think Michael Feliciano: well Timothy Judy: it Michael Feliciano: then the production costs are gonna be too high probably. Merle Thompkins: Yeah, Timothy Judy: Uh, Merle Thompkins: way Timothy Judy: I Merle Thompkins: too Timothy Judy: th Merle Thompkins: high. Timothy Judy: I think yo we have to keep it simple, to Merle Thompkins: Yep. Timothy Judy: get a whole market. It's international, Michael Feliciano: Okay. Timothy Judy: so Michael Feliciano: Maybe with different Timothy Judy: we have Michael Feliciano: type Timothy Judy: to use Michael Feliciano: of fronts Timothy Judy: a standard. Michael Feliciano: or uh Well, m has to be something Merle Thompkins: Well that's an idea of course, yeah. Michael Feliciano: spectacular or uh one which makes it We gonna skip back to the goals probably. Uh, Merle Thompkins: Mm-hmm. Michael Feliciano: original, trendly, and user-friendly Well, we al also already talked about user-friendliness. Timothy Judy: Hmm. Michael Feliciano: No, well something trendy and original, well that that goes hand in hand I guess. Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: When something is original, it tends to be trendy, probably, or we should make it combination of that. 'Kay, so you the um technical part of the process is something you're gonna look after for, so you have to think about what kind of uh equipment you want to uh, you know, you want to manage with it. Well, and that's an important part for you then, Timothy Judy: Use Michael Feliciano: with Timothy Judy: friendly. Michael Feliciano: gogors regards to the user-friendly Timothy Judy: Yep. Michael Feliciano: part of it. Well, and you uh should look out for what makes it trendy. Well, you know, y like some special feature. Or some Does it does it gets Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: some gadgetness or something. Merle Thompkins: Yes, what the market wishes. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Well, the closing. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. Individual, I think so. The Randall Clark will w or the working design, of course, we will uh Already s said that. Timothy Judy is it a User Inter Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: User Timothy Judy: Yeah, Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Timothy Judy: yeah. Michael Feliciano: Interface Timothy Judy: Interface Michael Feliciano: the technical Timothy Judy: d Michael Feliciano: functions design. And the Management Expert of uh Merle Thompkins. User requirements specifi Well, this one was already clear to us. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. I don't know how much time we have left. Oh, not many I guess. We started at twelve. Merle Thompkins: You just got a message. Michael Feliciano: Oh, and what does it said? Merle Thompkins: And it said Timothy Judy: Oh, I don't Merle Thompkins: uh five minutes, so we Michael Feliciano: W Merle Thompkins: got four and a half. Michael Feliciano: Okay, well um Timothy Judy: I didn't get a message. Merle Thompkins: No. He's the Timothy Judy: Oh, Merle Thompkins: whatever. Timothy Judy: the Project Randall Clark: Team Timothy Judy: Manager. Randall Clark: Leader. Michael Feliciano: No, Merle Thompkins: Team Michael Feliciano: we're Merle Thompkins: Leader. Michael Feliciano: uh ahead of schedule then. Merle Thompkins: He is the whatever. Michael Feliciano: Yeah, close it. I'm Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: gonna make some minutes or take some minutes. And Merle Thompkins: Yes. Michael Feliciano: uh it's it's clear you can put the stuff in the project documents presentations. Timothy Judy: Okay. Michael Feliciano: You can all Merle Thompkins: Project Michael Feliciano: Or we're Merle Thompkins: joc Michael Feliciano: all uh Merle Thompkins: project documents is for showing uh on the white-board. Michael Feliciano: Yeah. Yeah, Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: but we're all familiar with uh uh Microsoft PowerPoint, are Merle Thompkins: Yes. Michael Feliciano: we? Timothy Judy: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: Yeah, okay. I'm Merle Thompkins: Alright. Michael Feliciano: gonna wri uh write some stuff down and then we're ready. Merle Thompkins: Okay. Michael Feliciano: Or we can leave already I guess. or Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Michael Feliciano: uh or sh or should we uh or is important that we leave at exact uh Randall Clark: No. Merle Thompkins: No. Michael Feliciano: Okay. Merle Thompkins: I don't think so. Timothy Judy: I don't think Merle Thompkins: Yes? Timothy Judy: Oh Michael Feliciano: Yes. Merle Thompkins: Great. Randall Clark: Oh. Michael Feliciano: We'll see each other in uh thirty minutes. Merle Thompkins: Yeah. Good luck. Michael Feliciano: Yeah, good luck. Timothy Judy: I will need it. Merle Thompkins: I will need it.

Merle Thompkins and industrial designer had problems with their laptops. Michael Feliciano opened the meeting and introduced the project, to design a remote control. The remote should be trendy, original and user friendly. Michael Feliciano explained how to use the SMARTboard, and the group did a tool training exercise, using the SMARTboard to draw their favourite animals. Michael Feliciano talked about the budget and projected profit. The group discussed initial ideas for the remote, including that it should be a simple design with grouped buttons. They discussed whether the remote should include functions for controlling video and DVD players. Michael Feliciano went over the roles of the participants and closed the meeting.

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Orville Johnson: Here we go again. Wendell Miller: My mouse is not working anymore. Orville Johnson: Oh. David Olson: Oh. Wendell Miller: uh Orville Johnson: Okay. Wendell Miller: when I put it in, is is going to beep beep beep. David Olson: Oh, I got a nice little screen over here. I got like this big black border uh on every side. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: Mm, okay. Claude Brady: Everybody ready? David Olson: I'll I'll fix it. Orville Johnson: Yeah, David Olson: Yeah, Claude Brady: Welcome David Olson: whatever. Claude Brady: at the Orville Johnson: it's okay. Claude Brady: functional design, again presented by Maarten. Uh this is the agenda, the opening. Uh, we've got three presentations. And I'm gonna show you some of the new projects requirements that were sent to David Olson. And we're gonna make a decision on the remote control functions. We have uh forty minutes. David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: Oh, well this is the the closing already. So uh well we start off with the th the first presentation then. think Orville Johnson: Okay. Claude Brady: um in we have to do it in uh in right order. Maybe the David Olson: I don't know what the right order is. So Claude Brady: Well, Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: it Wendell Miller: Huh. Claude Brady: Oh that. It won't doesn't Maybe we should start with the the technical functions. Wendell Miller: Okay, how Claude Brady: Yeah? Wendell Miller: can I get this on the Claude Brady: Well it's you Wendell Miller: whiteboard? Claude Brady: dumped the file in the Orville Johnson: In project. Claude Brady: uh Wendell Miller: Okay, Claude Brady: in the sh in the project Wendell Miller: I've done Claude Brady: document Wendell Miller: that. Claude Brady: folder. You've already done that? Orville Johnson: No Wendell Miller: Yes. Orville Johnson: can that open. Claude Brady: Well let's close this one. We'll just uh open a new Orville Johnson: Open Claude Brady: one. Orville Johnson: it there. Claude Brady: Uh, well. Yes. Uh-oh. New thing. Oh yeah, uh I have to say something. Uh, due to some uh technical problems I haven't uh digitized the last uh the meeting minutes. But David Olson: Mm-hmm. Claude Brady: I'll uh make sure that uh happens next time. Orville Johnson: Okay. About the Claude Brady: And Orville Johnson: get Claude Brady: I'll get this one uh in digital uh form too. Wendell Miller: 'Kay, we're going to um uh talk about working design. Um, the method of the remote control is uh electrical energy, it activates a chip uh in the remote. Wendell Miller: the television. Mm, it's a nowadays very uh known, a known uh uh technology. Um, the known technology can make a cost very low. Uh, it's a wild uh a wide sale uh of uh remote controls in the world. And and the components are very uh very cheap. Um, Uh, diodes, uh bat batteries and uh uh LED lights, they're needed and they're uh everywhere available. Uh, again, it's a fair price. It's a common uh technology uh, like I told um Uh, the circuit board, it's the most um important uh um part of the remote control. Uh, we can use for that uh fibreglass with copper wires, it's it is uh can be made as fast as printing paper. It's uh it's Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: all very uh Yeah, they're making it uh all the time. Uh, Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: and it's not uh very specialised uh technology. I haven't come to here, but um I've got uh some uh images of uh remote controls. They were not uh very uh trendy or just uh just a remote control like everyone knows. So I don't know uh why I should put it here. Uh Claude Brady: Okay. But it's the technical side of the remote control. Wendell Miller: Yes, but uh I uh haven't made it Claude Brady: Oh. Wendell Miller: because uh of the time. Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: Well, we'll we'll have to skip that part then. Wendell Miller: What? Orville Johnson: Okay. Claude Brady: But you don't think it's a problem um to design uh the technical part of the remote control? Wendell Miller: No. Claude Brady: It's gonna be easy? Wendell Miller: Yes. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: But nothing restricted for user interface? Claude Brady: Yeah. Orville Johnson: With Wendell Miller: Um, Orville Johnson: technical Claude Brady: M Wendell Miller: no, Orville Johnson: I don't know. Wendell Miller: it's uh Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: it's just a part of uh a known technology, yeah. Orville Johnson: 'Kay. Wendell Miller: Remote control is nothing special nowadays. Claude Brady: R Orville Johnson: Okay. Claude Brady: regardless of what type of functions we want to implement. Doesn't really matter. Wendell Miller: Um Orville Johnson: But I kind of Wendell Miller: I don't Orville Johnson: uh Wendell Miller: think so, Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: because of Orville Johnson: Yes. Wendell Miller: the all Claude Brady: Yeah, Wendell Miller: the Claude Brady: okay. Wendell Miller: televisions uh Orville Johnson: Uh Wendell Miller: there are a few maybe a couple of televisions with the new functions, Claude Brady: Okay. Wendell Miller: but is it useful to put them on a on a standard uh remote? Claude Brady: Well, we'll see. We'll see later on. Orville Johnson: Well, the technical functions. Um, well I don't know if you got the same uh pictures as I got, Claude Brady: No. Orville Johnson: but Wendell Miller: No. Orville Johnson: uh I got these two, and I think they're we have to focus uh on uh the uh one hand the expert view or the novice user. th I think it's it's very much uh depending on the user requirements, I don't s uh know who's doing Claude Brady: Well, uh will Orville Johnson: t Claude Brady: there be some uh user requirements later on? Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: The ones Orville Johnson: but it Claude Brady: I I've uh received Orville Johnson: I think Claude Brady: from Orville Johnson: that's Claude Brady: the account Orville Johnson: very Claude Brady: manager. Orville Johnson: important to watch Claude Brady: Yeah. Orville Johnson: uh what kind of functions there we want to uh put in a remote control. Claude Brady: Well, we'll keep this in mind, and then discuss it later on. Orville Johnson: Yeah, well y we can put functions in it when uh yeah, when we uh get the user requirements Claude Brady: Uh-huh. Orville Johnson: uh and we can Claude Brady: Okay, Orville Johnson: update Claude Brady: but this Orville Johnson: it. Claude Brady: real this uh big d uh distinction between this type of remote. we should we should choose one uh we should not compromise but uh really choose for uh expert David Olson: Yes, Claude Brady: viewer or novice David Olson: I agree. Claude Brady: v David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah? Well, what that's what you want trying to say. Orville Johnson: Well, yeah w if you want try a a a huge market, if you want to reach a huge market, uh like elderly people and we have to choose for Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: novice user. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: But I don't know. It's it's really um Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: depending Claude Brady: well Orville Johnson: on how Claude Brady: some Orville Johnson: how Claude Brady: of Orville Johnson: how Claude Brady: these Orville Johnson: far Claude Brady: Uh, yeah. Orville Johnson: the the the remote controls are already in n um Claude Brady: Well, some Orville Johnson: in Claude Brady: of Orville Johnson: use. Claude Brady: that will Yeah, but i but it will be more clear when we come to the uh u uh some of the new requirements. Orville Johnson: Yeah, David Olson: Yes. Orville Johnson: probably, Claude Brady: So Orville Johnson: yeah. Uh well, there are l at least uh basic functions, uh like just th the channels uh one till nine, uh on and off switch, which must be clear with a red button or something like that. Um, most standard uh have volume, of course, and a mute function, and, of course, the next and previous channel. I think that's just basic what we need. Claude Brady: Mm-hmm. Orville Johnson: And from that on we can user requirements what we need more. Uh Yeah, I just um um I thought Joost was looking at the trendy the trends in the markets, David Olson: Yes. Orville Johnson: and I don't know if there uh are any um uh if you put more functions, more buttons, maybe it's com becoming less trendy or something like that. M you can just David Olson: I haven't really found a Orville Johnson: you David Olson: conclusion Orville Johnson: can k David Olson: like that. Orville Johnson: you can keep it in mind that. David Olson: Yeah. Orville Johnson: I don't know. Uh, I th I thought the the with less buttons you can make a more trendier uh David Olson: Design. Orville Johnson: yeah, more trendier design, I think. I think. David Olson: Sounds interesting. Orville Johnson: Yeah? Uh, well, that's all I have to say, I think. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: Yeah, that David Olson: Alright. Orville Johnson: was it. Claude Brady: Well, then David Olson can uh David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: tell us something about the current market. David Olson: Yeah. It's alright. Um David Olson: Alright, done some requirements. Um yes. The working method um there were hundred uh uh w h one hundred people, uh how do you say uh, f watched using remote controls in the usability lab and they also uh filled out a questionnaire uh with a few questions. Uh, I've lined them up here. Uh, ask whether um common remote control looks good or not, about willingness to spend money on remote control, about zapping behaviour, and uh and stuff like that. I uh have found some interesting things. We do we do got a market. Um, three out of four people claim m uh to find remote controls ugly. So if we make a trendy design, we sure have seventy fi seventy five percent of the market, which you can reach. Um, three out of four users uh zaps a lot, as I uh quoted here from the uh results. Zap buttons are used one hundred and sixty eight times per hour. That's quite a lot. Um, relevant options are, of course, power buttons. Although, only used once per hour. Uh, channel selection, volume and buttons for text, and the more um, yeah, other functions, like audio settings, video settings, sound settings are not said to be very important and uh very much used. Furthermore, fifty percent says uh they only use ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. That doesn't say we got we can leave ninety percent off. But it sure um says we shouldn't make it too uh complicated. Fifty percent also claims uh to have lost a remote control very often in the room. And um an important thing here, the most important customers uh, which is over seventy percent of our market, is in the age range of thirty six to sixty five years old. And uh elderly people, our market, are less interested in uh nice features, but more willingly to spend more money on remote controls. So, what I was thinking oh, wrong side. We shouldn't implement too much features on uh on our remote control, because elderly people will get th lost. Group features for a higher usability, uh what I was claiming in the previous meeting. Um, all the settings, about audio settings, video settings and channel settings, which are not very often used, we could group them uh on one button and make them accessible uh in one menu button or whatever, because they are used very rarely and well, it uh there are a lot of options there, so we can really make uh yeah, how do you say, we can spare at buttons over there. Claude Brady: Okay. David Olson: And um, if you want to implement V_C_R_ and D_V_D_ options, group them in the button, not too uh Yeah. Small buttons, so they won't be very um, how do you say Claude Brady: Visually presents. David Olson: Yes, won't be very present, thank you. And a trendy look, well uh, although seventy percent of the market is uh consists of elderly people uh who don't really care for trendy looks or whatever, I guess it can do no harm to make it trendy for the other thirty percent. That was kind of what I found. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: Okay. David Olson: Okay. Claude Brady: Well, then we I'm gonna show you some of the new project requirements and then we gonna discuss on uh David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: what features we find important. Uh, well some of the uh new requirements make some of your findings quite uh irrelevant, I think. Because um uh s decided to put They have decide to put two additional requirements forward. Well, now I see David Olson: Two? Claude Brady: four. That's kinda strange. Well, they say tele teletext becomes outdated since the popularity of the internet. Well, I think Orville Johnson: Well Claude Brady: that may be so, but well, we can't just leave the teletext button off. David Olson: No Claude Brady: It's impossible, Orville Johnson: No David Olson: uh, Orville Johnson: way. Claude Brady: I David Olson: I Claude Brady: think. David Olson: agree, I agree. Claude Brady: So the compromise we could make is just to make one teletext button, you know, like on and off, and don't make a lot of special put a lot of special features on it to David Olson: Not too Claude Brady: make David Olson: much, Claude Brady: it transparent David Olson: no. Claude Brady: or You know, it's just you want you want to be able to make use of teletext, but not to play with it that much. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: So we have to think of that. The remote control should only be used for television. Otherwise, the project becomes more complex, which endangers the time t t ma uh the time to market. So maybe we should leave all D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ related features Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: off completely. David Olson: Okay. Claude Brady: I don't know. I think that uh that's what they're trying to say. Uh, our current customers are within the age group of forty plus. New products should reach a new market with customers that are younger than forty. So you uh talked about the elderly who were willing David Olson: Mm-hmm. Claude Brady: to spend more on a remote control and who were interested. But, well, they're not relevant because we are aiming at a younger David Olson: I don't really agree actually, to be honest. It's a very small market which we will approach then if we uh want to reach customers younger than forty. It's only like thirty percent of the total market. Claude Brady: Yeah, but it is David Olson: Mayb Claude Brady: it's David Olson: yeah? Claude Brady: is a dif it's a fact that the th th that bigger market you're talking about, we already cover that. Our company already sells remote control to the older people, but we we also want, you know, a new customer group. That's the one we haven't covered yet. So I think that's what the problem is. We haven't David Olson: Okay. Claude Brady: got remote controls for uh Well David Olson: Maybe Claude Brady: I think, yeah. David Olson: maybe we can compromise a little Claude Brady: Yeah, David Olson: bit. Claude Brady: I think so. Maybe if David Olson: Not Claude Brady: it's David Olson: too much then, bu Claude Brady: no no, David Olson: alright. Claude Brady: but I think we have to just keep in mind what the older age group wants. So maybe we can make a remote control that's primarily interesting for the younger group, but isn't that bad for an older person either. David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: Uh, our corporate image sh should stay recognisable in our products. Okay, something else nice to Orville Johnson: But Claude Brady: know. Orville Johnson: what's our slogan? Claude Brady: Sorry? Yeah, Orville Johnson: The slogan uh Claude Brady: you will have to look that up. David Olson: Yeah, I'll have a look. We Claude Brady: I David Olson: put Claude Brady: think it's David Olson: the Orville Johnson: Puts Claude Brady: something David Olson: fashion Orville Johnson: fashion Claude Brady: about Orville Johnson: in David Olson: in Claude Brady: the David Olson: electronics. Orville Johnson: electronics. Claude Brady: Oh, okay. I thought it w might be, let's make things better or something, but David Olson: Sense Orville Johnson: Sense David Olson: and simplicity. Orville Johnson: simplicity. Claude Brady: Okay well, let's go back to the the agenda. So we've now had to the three presentations. We know about the new project requirements. That means we can uh well d yeah, discuss on the remote control functions. Well, if I can uh make a start, I think it's becoming more clear what kind of remote control it's gonna be, and I already talked about the maybe you have a f familiar with the rem remote control that has the the can opener underneath it. I think we're we're looking for some Yeah, we we're looking for a really simple remote control with only basic T_V_ functions. Y Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: Well, Claude Brady: well, David Olson: to Claude Brady: that David Olson: be honest, if um our uh aim group is uh till forty, not Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: older than forty, maybe that's not very uh yeah, we don't really need Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: to have a simple remote control. I think we can implement more functions then, because um Orville Johnson: Yeah, but David Olson: basically Orville Johnson: wha David Olson: uh the younger people are more able to adapt to new technology and therefore Claude Brady: Yeah, yeah. M David Olson: will be a more Claude Brady: yeah, that's Orville Johnson: But Claude Brady: why um well a lot of um the use the requirements the the account manager sent David Olson, I think they are are c are contradicting each other, because they want a simpler design, David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: and no uh other uh s functions than just T_V_, but they s do aim at a younger Orville Johnson: Yeah, but you Claude Brady: Well, David Olson: Yeah. Orville Johnson: sai Claude Brady: ma Orville Johnson: you said that that a lot of functions aren't used. So why should j we put this function in? David Olson: Well, Orville Johnson: I David Olson: I Orville Johnson: think David Olson: think Orville Johnson: more I think uh people younger people are more looking for just a trendy look than uh more functions. Claude Brady: But I think uh you we can make some discuss uh distinctions in uh what kin in the, know, th th in functions you have Y Well you have different kind of uh equipment in your room, like a t David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: T_V_ and a D_V_D_ player. You can uh, know, you you can make very d you can put very detailed functions regarding the T_V_ set on your remote control uh with the with uh the, you know, audio settings and uh v uh screen settings. We don't want that. I think that was that became clear. We don't want. But w maybe we should put some func uh, I know that the younger people will most likely have a D_V_D_ player they want to, you know, they want to David Olson: Yeah, Claude Brady: uh Orville Johnson: Yeah, but David Olson: control. Orville Johnson: uh you Claude Brady: control, Orville Johnson: said Yeah, Claude Brady: remotely. Orville Johnson: d yeah, but th the functions are not in the remote control we're making. Claude Brady: No, yeah, th Orville Johnson: It's Claude Brady: th the Orville Johnson: n Claude Brady: user requirements of the the The new project requirements told Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: us not to But maybe w Yeah. Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: I think we maybe should Yeah, well we should uh put some functions for other maybe for other equipment on it. But just the basic functions. Maybe like rewind and wind, or n what d what Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: do David Olson: Not Wendell Miller: you Claude Brady: you Wendell Miller: can Claude Brady: guys David Olson: much Wendell Miller: put David Olson: more Claude Brady: think? Wendell Miller: them David Olson: than Wendell Miller: under David Olson: that. Wendell Miller: the same button. David Olson: Yep. Claude Brady: Yeah, if as far as possible. David Olson: Or we can u u we could put 'em behind the flip-flap or whatever. So Claude Brady: But what David Olson: t Claude Brady: do you think? Do th should we implement features that uh uh or functions that to control other devices? Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: No, you don't think Orville Johnson: No, Claude Brady: so? Orville Johnson: new requirements say Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: no. Claude Brady: the new requirements say so. Orville Johnson: So Wendell Miller: But you can put a play and stop and and Claude Brady: Well, maybe Wendell Miller: rewind. Claude Brady: it's maybe David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: there Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: there there is Orville Johnson: but Claude Brady: something th m most of the time these functions don't support the particular device as well as their their own remote control. You know, a lot of D_V_D_ players have some tricky Wendell Miller: Yes, but Claude Brady: settings Wendell Miller: we David Olson: Y yes. Claude Brady: with Orville Johnson: I i if it's too simple uh th they won't use the remote control, Claude Brady: Yep, Orville Johnson: they Claude Brady: exactly. Orville Johnson: use their own th th with Claude Brady: That's Orville Johnson: lot Claude Brady: that's Orville Johnson: more David Olson: But Claude Brady: wha Orville Johnson: functions. David Olson: but for for example, V_C_R_, that's better example in this case. Claude Brady: No no, you Orville Johnson: No, Claude Brady: don't Orville Johnson: no. Wendell Miller: Huh. Claude Brady: No no, you Orville Johnson: Exactly. Claude Brady: don't need it. No, no. David Olson: just play, stop, rewind and uh fast Claude Brady: Okay, David Olson: forward. Claude Brady: but we have to think uh w we have to think D_V_D_ I th David Olson: Yeah, Claude Brady: uh, David Olson: I know, but Claude Brady: I David Olson: uh Claude Brady: guess, so um but uh from my experience it's kinda a lot of D_V_D_ players, you know, like forwarding, goes differently. Uh, you get two speed or eight speed or sixteen speed. Orville Johnson: Mm, yeah. Claude Brady: It's c sometimes a bit difficult. Maybe if we just leave the D_V_D_ functional m uh Well, I was thinking about putting it in, but concerning the project requirements and what you just David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: said, I Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: think we m Orville Johnson: but just Claude Brady: should focus on the T_V_ then. Orville Johnson: keep it simple and look more at Claude Brady: And Orville Johnson: th Claude Brady: uh and it's just an uh a complimentary remote and not a universal one. If you want to Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: keep it simple, you can make a universal remote. Orville Johnson: It's only for television. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: So Wendell Miller: Yes, Claude Brady: It's Wendell Miller: but Claude Brady: just Wendell Miller: there are Claude Brady: a s it Wendell Miller: there Claude Brady: it should Wendell Miller: are Claude Brady: be something that is like a gadget on your coffee table, and it's just for when you you you jump on the couch, you pick up the Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: the the nice remote, the simple one, just David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: to put on the television, Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: nothing more. Orville Johnson: nothing more. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: Exactly. David Olson: Alright. Claude Brady: Um, but Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: what Wendell Miller: how wi how Claude Brady: televis Wendell Miller: will you be able to handle a whole market? There are uh a dozen of uh dozens of of remote controls Claude Brady: Yeah, we Wendell Miller: that Claude Brady: we'll Wendell Miller: have Claude Brady: make w this one trendy. Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: And Orville Johnson: The Claude Brady: simple. Well, Orville Johnson: user Claude Brady: we we Orville Johnson: interface Claude Brady: will come to that, Orville Johnson: is Claude Brady: but Orville Johnson: easy. Claude Brady: ju first on the on the functions. So we should put uh zap buttons on it. Um, also Orville Johnson: And the Claude Brady: numbers, Orville Johnson: basic Claude Brady: to uh to Orville Johnson: yeah, Claude Brady: go to Orville Johnson: basic Claude Brady: the specific Orville Johnson: functions, David Olson: Yes, Claude Brady: channels. Orville Johnson: yeah. David Olson: definitely, yeah. Claude Brady: Uh, Orville Johnson: It's too much integrated Claude Brady: Okay, Orville Johnson: in Claude Brady: a Orville Johnson: the Claude Brady: t a Orville Johnson: other. Claude Brady: teletext button should be there. But Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: just one big teletext button, on and off. Probably. David Olson: Yeah, and maybe two or three other options, but not nothing more than that. I think stop function is very useful. If you have a uh a page which consists of more pages, and you are not a very quick reader, Claude Brady: Oh, David Olson: then Claude Brady: okay. David Olson: I think it's very irritating if Claude Brady: Yeah, David Olson: the next Claude Brady: but uh David Olson: page Claude Brady: I think David Olson: shows Claude Brady: that David Olson: up, Claude Brady: becomes David Olson: but Claude Brady: too difficult, it's not a very common function and people David Olson: Well, Claude Brady: will have David Olson: I use Claude Brady: to read David Olson: it Claude Brady: up David Olson: very Claude Brady: on David Olson: regularly, Claude Brady: their remote David Olson: the action. Claude Brady: then. David Olson: I re I use it Claude Brady: Yeah, yeah, but maybe David Olson: quite often. Claude Brady: you s yeah yeah, maybe y you do, but Orville Johnson: Will Claude Brady: I've never Orville Johnson: you look Claude Brady: heard of it in the first place. And we have to well Orville Johnson: Look at the market. Claude Brady: t yeah, and t and teletext is becoming outdated. We just want to see what programmes are on and what time it is probably. Yeah. I don't know. I think that that's kin getting too complex for our remote. Orville Johnson: Well Claude Brady: I don't David Olson: Might Claude Brady: know what David Olson: be. Claude Brady: you David Olson: Might Claude Brady: th guys think. David Olson: be. Orville Johnson: Yeah, I uh, it's Sunday I always use it for the uh yeah, for the soccer uh Claude Brady: Yeah, but do you like to have a such a s stop button? Or do you think it uh I think it's a kind of uh uh Orville Johnson: Well, Claude Brady: very Orville Johnson: uh Claude Brady: rare and Orville Johnson: when Claude Brady: special Orville Johnson: you uh Claude Brady: function. Orville Johnson: uh when you look uh for example um, a couple of weeks ago I looked at the for the flights, and Claude Brady: Yeah. Orville Johnson: there are a lot of flights Claude Brady: Okay, Orville Johnson: in Claude Brady: it Orville Johnson: one Claude Brady: goes Orville Johnson: page, Claude Brady: Yeah, but Orville Johnson: so Claude Brady: that's Orville Johnson: if Claude Brady: kind of Orville Johnson: if Claude Brady: stuff Orville Johnson: th Claude Brady: we should do on the internet right now. That's Wendell Miller: Yes, Claude Brady: why Wendell Miller: but you Claude Brady: it was Wendell Miller: could Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: uh Wendell Miller: put Claude Brady: said Orville Johnson: but Claude Brady: in the in the use in the r Wendell Miller: on Claude Brady: new requirements. Wendell Miller: the z on the zap buttons you can put it to uh to uh access all the same pages. If you have Claude Brady: Well Wendell Miller: seven Claude Brady: yeah uh, Wendell Miller: pages, Claude Brady: lots of Wendell Miller: you Claude Brady: new Wendell Miller: can Claude Brady: televisions Wendell Miller: go up and down. Claude Brady: can store pages, you know, and Wendell Miller: Yes. Claude Brady: then you can just skip manually through them using Orville Johnson: True. Claude Brady: I think we should just put one teletext button on it. Then we meet uh the new requirements. we also meet the other thin y you sh you just re we have to choose for the the simple design, I Orville Johnson: A simple Claude Brady: guess. Orville Johnson: yeah. Claude Brady: Okay. Um, well, what functions do we have to decide on? Or do we uh I dunno if we have t stif specifically name all the functions we n we want. We have the zap and uh the volume. Should we do m make them very big? The the the zap button. D David Olson: I Claude Brady: d David Olson: think Wendell Miller: Yes. David Olson: the plus and the minus button Claude Brady: Th that's David Olson: should Claude Brady: that's David Olson: be uh Claude Brady: that's considered to be Orville Johnson: But Claude Brady: trendy David Olson: quite present, Claude Brady: also. Orville Johnson: trendy, yeah. David Olson: yep. Orville Johnson: I don't Claude Brady: Or Orville Johnson: know. Claude Brady: maybe you should place them on a uh, Wendell Miller: Maybe Claude Brady: in a special Wendell Miller: we can make Claude Brady: way? Wendell Miller: uh a kind of a joystick. Claude Brady: Yeah, something or uh somethin special way to to zap through the it has to s it has to be yeah, Orville Johnson: Original. Claude Brady: and quick. You have Orville Johnson: It was uh Claude Brady: to use it very quickly. David Olson: Yep. Orville Johnson: True. David Olson: If you grab the remote, your hands should be on top Claude Brady: Yeah, David Olson: of the plus. Claude Brady: and it the buttons should make it um possible to to zap through your channels in a rapid at a rapid pace. David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: Oh, what should we decide on then? I Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: think in a in a case Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: of this simple remote control, the technical aspects which uh weren't worked out already, but it w shouldn't be a problem then. Wendell Miller: No, it's o just signals uh Claude Brady: Yep. Orville Johnson: Maybe Wendell Miller: and Orville Johnson: uh Wendell Miller: the television d uh does the rest. Claude Brady: No, okay, but we don't have to uh, when we don't want to uh control other devices, I think Wendell Miller: No. Claude Brady: it makes it even more simple. Orville Johnson: Uh maybe we uh uh the batteries maybe. If you use large batteries or small batter batteries. Wendell Miller: The most Claude Brady: I think Wendell Miller: standard batteries. Claude Brady: I think David Olson: I Claude Brady: that David Olson: think Claude Brady: we Orville Johnson: Yeah? Claude Brady: should David Olson: double Claude Brady: use David Olson: A_. Claude Brady: uh d yeah, not David Olson: Yep. Claude Brady: not uh the b the watch kind th the most uh Well, it has to be simple, and I Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: The Claude Brady: wi David Olson: most ordinary uh Claude Brady: Which are most likely David Olson: batteries. Claude Brady: to be found somewhere in Orville Johnson: Okay. Claude Brady: the house, you know. David Olson: Yep. Claude Brady: Oh. How much time do we ha we have left uh? M David Olson: I Claude Brady: m David Olson: think Claude Brady: m more David Olson: about Claude Brady: than thirty David Olson: twenty minutes. Claude Brady: minutes? Uh ten twenty minutes. Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: Well, Wendell Miller: i Orville Johnson: Early Claude Brady: uh these Orville Johnson: break. Claude Brady: these shouldn't Wendell Miller: in a way we have to be uh uh special. Claude Brady: Yeah. Yeah, okay. But that's that's Do you uh have you have you think about tha thought about that? How we can what the extra touch can be. Wendell Miller: Maybe Claude Brady: Do you suggest Wendell Miller: th m Claude Brady: design or the shape or some gadget f f kind of feature or Well, it was something about how we lose them. Maybe it should be a remote control when you you clap you hands it makes some noise or some gadget kind of thing. David Olson: I think Orville Johnson: To David Olson: that's Orville Johnson: find David Olson: n Orville Johnson: him. David Olson: that's more Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: for Orville Johnson: That's David Olson: a Orville Johnson: maybe yeah. David Olson: for an age range or uh ten to twelve or whatever. Claude Brady: I don't know. I don't know. Nah, um a lot of people like to have such kind kind of kind of gay kind of things. It w it w should be like a birthday present or something that you give David Olson: Yeah, Claude Brady: someone, and it is David Olson: yeah, Claude Brady: i David Olson: that's Claude Brady: has David Olson: good Claude Brady: something David Olson: one, Claude Brady: nice. Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: yep. Claude Brady: Or maybe it w should have a big uh light that can flash or something on it, or maybe it should or an or the like the the can opener. Maybe it contains some feature that you don't normally link to a remote control. I think it's very impor because we're gonna make such a basic Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: remote control, we have to do something to make it special. It's gonna cost twenty five Euros. David Olson: Ye I think the can opener i is a brilliant idea actually, because Claude Brady: Yeah, but Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: the Orville Johnson: but Claude Brady: well, David Olson: television Orville Johnson: that's Claude Brady: it's already been David Olson: and Claude Brady: done. David Olson: beer Orville Johnson: yeah. David Olson: is not a rare combination. Claude Brady: Nah. Yeah, that's true. But and I think it's gonna be uh very uh it has to be sturdy or something, so maybe with David Olson: Yes. Claude Brady: with bouncing pads so that you can just throw it on the floor or something. it Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: has to be used something special, David Olson: Yep. Claude Brady: and you really it has to, you know y not s people, when they buy it, they have to think, well this one lasts for a long time. We're really gonna use them. Not some thing you you throw away next week, you know. David Olson: No, that's true. Claude Brady: So maybe uh that's i I think that's when uh when we decide on these type of functions, know, basic functions, uh it's very important to find something like this. So there's a very important task for you. And maybe we can all think Orville Johnson: Be Claude Brady: about Orville Johnson: original, Claude Brady: it. Orville Johnson: yeah. Claude Brady: Uh, also for you maybe, when t you it's very nice when you can be entra when you can be trendy, and and Orville Johnson: Mm-hmm. Claude Brady: uh and al as in a Orville Johnson: And Claude Brady: friend Orville Johnson: use Claude Brady: use Orville Johnson: friendly, Claude Brady: friendly as well, Orville Johnson: yeah. Claude Brady: you know. So Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: big buttons, flashy design, David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: and maybe some kind of gadget kind of thing. Orville Johnson: Must Claude Brady: Uh-huh. David Olson: Yeah, Orville Johnson: brain-storm. David Olson: a swapable front or whatever. Claude Brady: Yeah, or just different colours would be uh I don't know if people also wanna spend more money on fronts for their uh Orville Johnson: Well Wendell Miller: For Claude Brady: remote Wendell Miller: the remote Claude Brady: control. It Wendell Miller: control. Claude Brady: could be be Yeah, you never know, but Orville Johnson: Why not? David Olson: Yeah. Orville Johnson: More money for us. Claude Brady: But it and Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: I think we have to make it quite big. Orville Johnson: Quite big. David Olson: Yes, Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: you David Olson: definitely, Orville Johnson: think? David Olson: definitely. Wendell Miller: That's Claude Brady: people Wendell Miller: to be uh Claude Brady: So, Wendell Miller: a Claude Brady: and and Wendell Miller: formed Claude Brady: also Wendell Miller: for Claude Brady: because Wendell Miller: your hand. Claude Brady: uh it is expensive. If you want it to be something, you know, it's ha doesn't have much functions want to be David Olson: Yes, Claude Brady: you David Olson: it Claude Brady: don't want to David Olson: it Claude Brady: get David Olson: it Claude Brady: it l David Olson: should be Claude Brady: make David Olson: f Claude Brady: it David Olson: be visible nearly anywhere in the room. As I uh as I said during my Claude Brady: Mm-hmm. David Olson: presentation, fifty percent Claude Brady: And David Olson: uh Claude Brady: shou and should ni David Olson: o Claude Brady: look nice when you put it on a table. I I think you m might wanna put it Orville Johnson: A Claude Brady: uh Orville Johnson: standard or Claude Brady: yeah, Orville Johnson: something. Claude Brady: that it it it it stands up. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah, you have to put it on its So it's like a vase or uh something you put on a table. David Olson: A face? Or uh yeah, Claude Brady: no David Olson: yeah. Claude Brady: no, David Olson: Yeah. Wendell Miller: More Claude Brady: put Wendell Miller: like Claude Brady: stuff Wendell Miller: a joystick Claude Brady: inside it. But, Wendell Miller: then. Claude Brady: it's like like a statue or something David Olson: Yeah, yeah, I see what you Orville Johnson: It's David Olson: mean, Orville Johnson: like you have David Olson: yep. Orville Johnson: uh four phones. Claude Brady: Yeah yeah, but Orville Johnson: Something Claude Brady: yeah, but you Orville Johnson: like that. Claude Brady: also can put it somewhere David Olson: If you do that, but Claude Brady: near David Olson: I don't Claude Brady: the window David Olson: know Claude Brady: in David Olson: if that's possible Claude Brady: That it's David Olson: within Claude Brady: it's David Olson: the Claude Brady: fashionable. David Olson: production cost of twelve and a half Euros. Claude Brady: I I don't David Olson: I in in the base we could like make uh a button, and if you push it, the remote control itself s makes noise. Claude Brady: Oh, David Olson: That's Claude Brady: yeah. David Olson: probably stupid, but uh as I found here uh, fifty percent, was it fifty? Wendell Miller: But that's David Olson: Uh Wendell Miller: that's David Olson: fifty Wendell Miller: fun David Olson: percent Wendell Miller: for the first time, and then David Olson: fifty Wendell Miller: the second David Olson: percent often loses remote control. Claude Brady: Yeah, but but when you when it gets lost, how can you press the button to make David Olson: No Claude Brady: it David Olson: uh, of the base the the the Claude Brady: Oh, David Olson: the Claude Brady: okay. David Olson: the Orville Johnson: On the television. David Olson: the the thing you put it in. Orville Johnson: Oh, like Claude Brady: Uh, Orville Johnson: this. Claude Brady: that's David Olson: If Claude Brady: kind David Olson: an Claude Brady: of nice. David Olson: a button in in that Wendell Miller: Or you Claude Brady: And David Olson: uh Wendell Miller: can Claude Brady: then also you don't even need batteries, because you can make it uh chargeable. Orville Johnson: A char chargeable. David Olson: Yeah, you Wendell Miller: Yeah. David Olson: can Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: ma make rechargeable one, yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah, David Olson: Why Claude Brady: that David Olson: not. Claude Brady: w yeah, but yeah, the pro No, well I think that it might Orville Johnson: Why Claude Brady: be Orville Johnson: not. Claude Brady: t p Well, nee but we don't Yeah. Maybe you, but we don't know much about production cost, but when you you can imagine that when you spend twenty five Euros on a remote control and it's a basic Wendell Miller: With recharger. Claude Brady: remote control, then the then the money there must be money to spend on that kind of st you know, rechargeable David Olson: It should only Claude Brady: units. David Olson: cost twelve and a half Euros, of course. Aye? Claude Brady: Yeah, but we would d ma Orville Johnson: Production. Claude Brady: we'd do it in Taiwan and So, it's not gonna be that expen David Olson: Yeah, okay. Orville Johnson: It should be Claude Brady: Uh Orville Johnson: possible. Claude Brady: I I think it's a great idea. Orville Johnson: a good idea. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: S some kind of be Orville Johnson: To make Claude Brady: I've Orville Johnson: a Claude Brady: never Orville Johnson: base Claude Brady: seen that Orville Johnson: or Claude Brady: before, Orville Johnson: something? Claude Brady: and you make it uh um be uh, you see it with uh the mo the mouses nowadays. David Olson: Yes. Yes, definitely. Yeah. Wendell Miller: Yes, but is that handy? Claude Brady: Well, I well it's really ch you can recharge it, so you ha never have the battery Orville Johnson: It's Claude Brady: problem. Orville Johnson: it's Claude Brady: That's Orville Johnson: it's Claude Brady: one. Orville Johnson: it's Claude Brady: And uh you can always Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: find Orville Johnson: it's not Claude Brady: your Wendell Miller: but Orville Johnson: the Claude Brady: remote Orville Johnson: purpose Claude Brady: control Wendell Miller: remote Orville Johnson: to Claude Brady: up Orville Johnson: be handy, Wendell Miller: controls Orville Johnson: it's Wendell Miller: remote controls nowadays can can last uh two years, three years, with with t two batteries. Claude Brady: Uh, okay. Well, maybe yeah, you could Wendell Miller: And Claude Brady: when Wendell Miller: then Claude Brady: that's Wendell Miller: you Claude Brady: when it's too costly, you could probably skip the recharger, but you will you do need uh also an uh, also you would need a battery in the the base unit as well, you know. Does Wendell Miller: Yes. Claude Brady: it makes David Olson: Well Claude Brady: it kinda David Olson: y Wendell Miller: Or David Olson: you you could connect that to two hundred to twenty volts, of course. Orville Johnson: Mm. Claude Brady: Yeah, David Olson: I Claude Brady: yeah. David Olson: don't know. Claude Brady: Okay. Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: Yeah. Orville Johnson: but that's not it's ugly, Claude Brady: Yeah, but Orville Johnson: I think. Claude Brady: then it's very easy to make it also a rechargeab I don't think that is gonna cost much to make it also a recharge Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: function in it. David Olson: On the other hand, if you don't do it, we can also make a nice bay. I mean, it looks trendy and still still put a bleep function in it, but Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: um I think the bay is definitely uh Claude Brady: I think it's a good idea. And make it, you know, we we um Well, we uh it's it isn't a t a most uh costly uh remote control. We can save on the on the functions. We just put some simple button in, make it big and sturdy, nothing more, and just make s sure there's some noise that it can make, or probably some kind of cheap light thing around it or that it uh that it lights David Olson: Sure, Claude Brady: up, David Olson: why not. Claude Brady: it's also David Olson: Yep. Claude Brady: nice. And if you put it away, I think it's uh w David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: we have to we uh that's uh it's Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: not a easy market. We have to something special. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: And for twenty five Orville Johnson: True. Claude Brady: Euros people want something remote c special from your mote control, Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: and we David Olson: Definitely. Claude Brady: can't deliver that in r with uh regards to the functions, because we aren't gonna David Olson: With eye Claude Brady: put David Olson: candy, ear candy, whatever. Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: Yeah, definitely. Claude Brady: And then uh when make it, you know, nice looking shape and this and then you also you got the stand-up thing. Yeah. I think David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: I think Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: it's a Orville Johnson: it Claude Brady: good Orville Johnson: must Claude Brady: idea. Orville Johnson: be must be a gadget to have. Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: Definitely, yeah. Claude Brady: Oh, if it let's well, we will see what's possible concerning the the costs, and if it's possible we'll do that. Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: And we even try to save up on other stuff to make sure we can do such a thing. And the first thing we the most likeable thing to to n to skip is then probably the recharge function or something. If that's too expensive, Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: we won't Orville Johnson: we Claude Brady: do Orville Johnson: c Claude Brady: that. But it would be nice. David Olson: It would be nice, Claude Brady: It's David Olson: yes. Claude Brady: the idea. I know that batteries last long nowadays. And and what people just think about, well, I'll never have to buy any r batteries again, so y b because it's very annoying when your battery is empty. And you know then when you haven't batteries around, and probably for two weeks, your remo I've David Olson: Most televisions Claude Brady: experienced that David Olson: break Claude Brady: that David Olson: down before the battery pack is empty, so Claude Brady: Yeah, okay. David Olson: yes. Claude Brady: So, easy functions. Well, we will we will I think we'll work that out, zapping, numbers on it, Orville Johnson: Or just Claude Brady: bi Orville Johnson: give a beep when the battery's out or uh down. David Olson: Yeah, why Claude Brady: Yeah. David Olson: not. Claude Brady: But it's also annoying. 'cause as David Olson: Hmm. Claude Brady: long as it stays as it ke keeps working, you're not Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: very motivated to do something about it. Orville Johnson: true. Claude Brady: Then David Olson: No, Claude Brady: it David Olson: that's Claude Brady: beeps David Olson: true. Claude Brady: all the time and. You don't want to have ever have those problems, and you won't have if if you have the rechargeable. And you don't have to use the unit, you can also put it on the side if people don't like it. Uh, David Olson: Why Claude Brady: i i in David Olson: not. Claude Brady: the in Wendell Miller: But Claude Brady: the ma Wendell Miller: you pay for it. Claude Brady: Yeah, but it w I mean, if if they pay for it because they think, oh, that's a great idea, I'm gonna use it. And when it, you know, when time goes by and they think, well, I'll never put him in the recharger, I think last long enough, then they put it on side and they can use it now and then. Then when they look get m I I I know for sure that everybody who buys this remote control, within a couple of months of they will be in the situation that they they're seeking for the remote control, they wanna see something Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: quick and uh just push the button and th uh, I think David Olson: Bleep Claude Brady: it's brilliant. David Olson: bleep bleep, oh there it is, yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: I've never David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: it's so simple, but I've never seen it. David Olson: No. Orville Johnson: And you can leave David Olson: Nearly. Claude Brady: M Orville Johnson: it just there. Claude Brady: maybe we should really do this. Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: Okay now, well, how much time have we got left? These clocks aren't uh synched. Orville Johnson: Yes. Claude Brady: Oh, now I've put uh well, it is twenty p Orville Johnson: Yeah, I'll Claude Brady: Okay, so we have ten minutes or something? David Olson: Something like that, yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah, but we're uh we're done. Orville Johnson: Uh Claude Brady: I Orville Johnson: fifteen Claude Brady: think. Orville Johnson: minutes. Claude Brady: We've decided on the functions. Well, there is some oh. There is a closing sheet. We have lunch break, and then we have thirty minutes of individual work. David Olson: Oh. Claude Brady: Oh okay, I'll make sure I'll I had some problems with uh the digitising the the first minutes, the the s the next minutes won't be a problem, but I'll try to make sure the first one will be in the folder too, but maybe it won't work, but you'll see. I think these David Olson: We'll Claude Brady: are David Olson: see. Claude Brady: more important than the first ones, so Orville Johnson: Can you make an uh uh a part of f folder for the minutes maybe? That not not David Olson: Maarten, Orville Johnson: everything David Olson: five Orville Johnson: in one David Olson: minutes. Orville Johnson: one Claude Brady: Oh, Orville Johnson: uh Claude Brady: five minutes. Orville Johnson: folder. Claude Brady: Yeah, because uh I I d I did uh the first minutes I did were were were a bit scratchy, you know. Then I did a s second one with a nicer layout, which I could uh, know, use for the other ones well, but uh I d think uh I forgot to do put done under the first one, and when you go write Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: a second uh it's get it's not working when you try to write second Orville Johnson: Maybe. Claude Brady: uh paper David Olson: No, that's Claude Brady: or David Olson: true Claude Brady: something. David Olson: uh, yeah. Claude Brady: And then you you had to overwrite it or someth I don't know. Becau I d uh, it was not my uh pen. David Olson: Should we by the way draw um Claude Brady: this kind of David Olson: on Claude Brady: looks David Olson: our nice Claude Brady: you like. David Olson: whiteboard, um a little uh idea of Claude Brady: Of the shape. David Olson: yeah. Orville Johnson: Or the Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: sh Claude Brady: probably, David Olson: I Claude Brady: it David Olson: dunno. Claude Brady: would be nice. David Olson: Has anyone got um Orville Johnson: Do you get David Olson: a Orville Johnson: an idea David Olson: little Orville Johnson: of David Olson: bit Orville Johnson: the shape? David Olson: detailed ideas about the shape? I don't, Wendell Miller: Maybe like David Olson: for one. Wendell Miller: this pen. David Olson: A bit bigger I guess, Claude Brady: No, David Olson: but Claude Brady: bigger. Orville Johnson: A little bit bigger, yeah but David Olson: The shape is nice, it's um something different, and Wendell Miller: It David Olson: we Wendell Miller: has David Olson: want Wendell Miller: to feel David Olson: we Wendell Miller: nice David Olson: want Claude Brady: Well, David Olson: that. Wendell Miller: in Claude Brady: I Wendell Miller: your hand. Claude Brady: I David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: I have to say, I have this uh can opening remote control in my head most of all, or I think some maybe we should no, that will be too Orville Johnson: Oh, uh Claude Brady: costly. Orville Johnson: look uh look Claude Brady: We shou Orville Johnson: at Claude Brady: we Orville Johnson: the Claude Brady: could Orville Johnson: pictures. Claude Brady: also, that was a would also be an idea, but I don't think it I don't know if it exists already, you should like make Alessi or something design it. David Olson: Okay, yeah. Claude Brady: That would also be nice. But that's David Olson: Yeah, Claude Brady: gonna David Olson: but Claude Brady: then you c then you David Olson: twelve Claude Brady: don't David Olson: and a half Euros? Uh Claude Brady: Yeah, but then you don't have t yeah it that's not something i that's in the production cost a one it's a one time, you know s was it's a single cost. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: Yeah, m but but then you can nah, I don't thin I think that it would be more expensive, because I've bought the Alessi stuff more often and even small pencil holders or something are more expensive. David Olson: Yeah, that's true. Claude Brady: Would be a nice idea though. I don't know. I think it uh has to be a r it has to have round forms or something. Like something like that or so or so David Olson: Something like that is very ergonomic. Claude Brady: And on th and then uh David Olson: So Claude Brady: s a base unit underneath it. It's also round. Put it in there uh wire on it. Maybe David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: uh, I don't know, some some lights, a big but well. Orville Johnson: Yeah, flash lights at the Claude Brady: Volume and Orville Johnson: side. Claude Brady: programme, Orville Johnson: At Claude Brady: yeah. Orville Johnson: the side, David Olson: Yes, Orville Johnson: or something David Olson: volume and Orville Johnson: like David Olson: programme Orville Johnson: that. David Olson: should be there I guess, because you Claude Brady: And David Olson: hands Claude Brady: some David Olson: wi Claude Brady: of the David Olson: uh y Claude Brady: extra David Olson: your Claude Brady: funct David Olson: hands will be in the smaller part. Claude Brady: Some of the Orville Johnson: Yeah. Claude Brady: extra functions over here. David Olson: Yeah, and Claude Brady: Numbers. David Olson: the numbers on top, Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: I guess. Claude Brady: And and lights? How we're g well, maybe uh s a ring of no, no, you have to Maybe on the side David Olson: Maybe Claude Brady: of it. David Olson: ro roun rounds uh Orville Johnson: Yeah, David Olson: uh Orville Johnson: side David Olson: l Orville Johnson: of David Olson: sorry. Orville Johnson: it. Claude Brady: Along Orville Johnson: Just Claude Brady: the side Orville Johnson: two LEDs Claude Brady: uh strip Orville Johnson: or something Claude Brady: of yeah. Orville Johnson: on the side. David Olson: Maybe lights Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: also around the volume and the p the plus minus programme buttons. Claude Brady: Yeah, but I also meant the David Olson: Oh. Claude Brady: the blinking li w you know, the ones that also blink when you try to uh uh locate your remote. David Olson: Okay. Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: Well, Orville Johnson: Well, uh Claude Brady: theys have Orville Johnson: probably Claude Brady: to be Orville Johnson: at the side. You know look Claude Brady: Yeah. Orville Johnson: at the front, Claude Brady: Yeah, Orville Johnson: but Claude Brady: yeah. Exactly. When you you see it from the side, then it would look just like that. Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: And Orville Johnson: exactly, Claude Brady: then you have Orville Johnson: and then there is yeah. Claude Brady: a strip of uh lights or Orville Johnson: Yeah, Claude Brady: something. David Olson: Okay, yeah. Orville Johnson: something like that, yeah. Claude Brady: Well, uh I think it's nice, for one thing. maybe put something on top of it or, you know, like that's Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: looks funny. I don't know. Orville Johnson: No. Claude Brady: Or some David Olson: I Claude Brady: bump. David Olson: think I think Claude Brady: Maybe David Olson: that'll Claude Brady: some David Olson: be too big tha Claude Brady: Yeah? David Olson: too big then. Orville Johnson: Bumper or something. Claude Brady: We'll have to think about it. I think we're David Olson: Yeah. Claude Brady: we're done. Orville Johnson: Yeah. David Olson: Yes, we are. Claude Brady: We can Orville Johnson: Lunch Claude Brady: save Orville Johnson: break. David Olson: Alright. Claude Brady: this one. David Olson: Yes, I guess it's lunch time. Orville Johnson: Okay then. Claude Brady: Mm mm. David Olson: I don't know. Half and hour? I thought Orville Johnson: Okay, David Olson: our Orville Johnson: five David Olson: next uh Orville Johnson: uh David Olson: next individual round was half an hour. Claude Brady: Yeah, that was what David Olson: I don't Claude Brady: uh David Olson: know about the lunch break. Claude Brady: Mm, we'll hear about it. David Olson: Well Orville Johnson: Oh.

Claude Brady opened the meeting. Wendell Miller reported on working design, explaining how a remote control works and describing its main components. Orville Johnson talked about what functions should be included. He suggested they should focus on either expert or novice users. The basic functions should include an on/off switch, buttons for channels one to nine, volume, mute and buttons for next and previous channel. He suggested that a trendy design should not have many buttons. David Olson reported on user requirements, including how users rated the importance of different features. He stressed that a trendy design is important, that users zap a lot, and that remotes often get lost. Claude Brady informed the group of new requirements. The remote is only for TV, should not include a teletext feature, and should feature the company colour and slogan. The group discussed what functions and features the remote should have, and whether to include DVD/VCR controls, a teletext button, stop button, changeable covers, and a base/recharger with locator function. The group also discussed making the remote a rounded, ergonomic shape, and using flashing lights to help locate it when lost.

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Harry Esterbrook: Okay, welcome to the detailed design meeting. Again, I'm gonna take minutes. Oh, we're gonna have a prototype presentation first. Uh, who's gonna give the prototype presentation? You two guys? Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Go ahead. Peter Terrell: coffee. Salvatore Bartels: 'Kay, we've made a prototype Um, we've got uh uh our aspects from the last meeting. Uh, especially we looked at the form, material and the colour. Um, we've uh drawn here the p prototype. The logo is uh is uh is pretty uh obvious to see on the on the remote control, but it is necessary when you want to build your uh company f to a level higher. Um, our interface elements, there are shown in the drawing. Maybe you can uh point them uh The functions. Peter Terrell: Uh well, the uh all the functions are discussed uh I think the most of the functions are uh uh obvious. Uh, it's a little bit. Uh, power button. Uh then the the the nine uh channels. Uh the volume uh uh at the side, and the other side is the programmes. And then we had uh just uh two buttons, we place them in the middle, uh the menu, and for the teletext Harry Esterbrook: Oh no, Peter Terrell: that Harry Esterbrook: the Sammy Huston: Alright, Peter Terrell: was th Harry Esterbrook: the Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: the mute button misses now. Peter Terrell: Oh, Harry Esterbrook: Do y do Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: you Peter Terrell: the mute Harry Esterbrook: did Peter Terrell: button. Salvatore Bartels: But Harry Esterbrook: we want Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: to Salvatore Bartels: that Harry Esterbrook: have a m Salvatore Bartels: It's Harry Esterbrook: mute button? Salvatore Bartels: uh here Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: then, in the middle. Sammy Huston: Alright, Harry Esterbrook: Huh. Sammy Huston: and uh you gotta point out which is the volume um uh button Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Sammy Huston: and Salvatore Bartels: um Sammy Huston: which is the programme button. Salvatore Bartels: we've Peter Terrell: Well, Salvatore Bartels: disc Peter Terrell: yeah mo uh mo Yeah, well most of them are right-handed. Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: Most Sammy Huston: but Salvatore Bartels: of Sammy Huston: you Salvatore Bartels: the users Sammy Huston: you gotta make it clear on the on Salvatore Bartels: Yes, y Peter Terrell: Yeah Salvatore Bartels: there Peter Terrell: well, Salvatore Bartels: there will be Peter Terrell: I Salvatore Bartels: a p a Peter Terrell: don't Salvatore Bartels: little Peter Terrell: have time in Salvatore Bartels: a Peter Terrell: uh Salvatore Bartels: little Peter Terrell: anymore Salvatore Bartels: P_ on Peter Terrell: on the Salvatore Bartels: that and Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: a little Sammy Huston: and a and Salvatore Bartels: uh Sammy Huston: a triangle Peter Terrell: Oh yeah, just Sammy Huston: on that. Peter Terrell: progr Salvatore Bartels: yeah. Peter Terrell: programme Sammy Huston: Yes. Peter Terrell: above, Sammy Huston: Next Peter Terrell: I think. Sammy Huston: to that I kinda miss a zero actually. Harry Esterbrook: Wait, there's was one thing I wanted to ask. Uh, there are different ways for remote to uh do like uh d I call it teens and twenties. Uh, y Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: th th th the two numbers. Sammy Huston: All n no, that's um Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: It's a television. Peter Terrell: true, Sammy Huston: kinda dependent Peter Terrell: yeah. Sammy Huston: on the television. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Peter Terrell: Uh Harry Esterbrook: but do we have do we need extra buttons, for example Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: Uh Sammy Huston: think Harry Esterbrook: some uh some Peter Terrell: I Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Peter Terrell: think Harry Esterbrook: have to Peter Terrell: so. Salvatore Bartels: yes, you have you have a lot of standard buttons that has to be uh on it, uh Sammy Huston: Yeah, I think Salvatore Bartels: th Sammy Huston: you Salvatore Bartels: with Sammy Huston: should Salvatore Bartels: the Sammy Huston: add Salvatore Bartels: one and a double Peter Terrell: Zero? Salvatore Bartels: uh uh Sammy Huston: A cross, or whatever. Peter Terrell: May Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but you Sammy Huston: Yeah, Peter Terrell: maybe Salvatore Bartels: yes. Harry Esterbrook: don't Sammy Huston: line. Peter Terrell: here? Harry Esterbrook: you don't actually need them, becau b l a lot of remote controls work that y when y that you when you fir you push the Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: one first, then Peter Terrell: And Harry Esterbrook: you Peter Terrell: then Harry Esterbrook: have Peter Terrell: a second. Sammy Huston: No, Harry Esterbrook: a Sammy Huston: that's Harry Esterbrook: couple Sammy Huston: dependent Harry Esterbrook: of seconds Sammy Huston: on the television. Harry Esterbrook: No, I don't think so. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, you have Sammy Huston: I Salvatore Bartels: televisions, Sammy Huston: do know so. Salvatore Bartels: then you have to, Peter Terrell: Is Salvatore Bartels: you Peter Terrell: it Salvatore Bartels: know, you Peter Terrell: depending Salvatore Bartels: have to Peter Terrell: on television? Salvatore Bartels: uh press Harry Esterbrook: Nah, I Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: don't think so really, because you have a I know some remote controls that don't have these buttons, but you still can, know, obviously you can still Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: select the twenty uh Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: a number in the Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: twenty Salvatore Bartels: a lot Harry Esterbrook: or Sammy Huston: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: in the Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: ten. Sammy Huston: but uh uh no uh remote control nowadays are um they come with the television. Or actually, the other way around. But Harry Esterbrook: No, I think uh I really think it's n because you can when when you put a button on it with like one and uh then a dash, Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: it's the same thing as when you just push the one, because it i it first Salvatore Bartels: Yes, but Harry Esterbrook: gives you the functionality of that that uh separate button you also had to Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: uh Sammy Huston: well Harry Esterbrook: apply. Sammy Huston: but su Salvatore Bartels: some Sammy Huston: If Salvatore Bartels: televisions don't accept uh Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: that Harry Esterbrook: because Salvatore Bartels: that Harry Esterbrook: that's i it's for television. It's exact the same thing. Salvatore Bartels: No, no, but Sammy Huston: No no no. So some Salvatore Bartels: s Sammy Huston: television respond differently. Look, if uh i Harry Esterbrook: No, Sammy Huston: i Harry Esterbrook: listen listen. When you push the button, the remote control gives a signal. I in th in the first place Sammy Huston: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: it gives a signal which it would also send when you put a separate button on it. Sammy Huston: Yes, that's Harry Esterbrook: The one Sammy Huston: true. Harry Esterbrook: with dash, that signal gi and when y whe when you don't push another button on the remote control within five seconds, then the remote control Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: gives a signal for channel one. Peter Terrell: True. Sammy Huston: No Harry Esterbrook: I think it works that way, Sammy Huston: No, it Harry Esterbrook: really. Sammy Huston: it it works uh if you haven't got uh a special button for it, uh if you push a one, then on your television there will appear a one and a a line, Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but it's exact Sammy Huston: which is Harry Esterbrook: the same Sammy Huston: an empty space. Harry Esterbrook: that w would Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: appear Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: when Salvatore Bartels: some Harry Esterbrook: you put a separate button Salvatore Bartels: some Harry Esterbrook: push Salvatore Bartels: old Harry Esterbrook: a separate Salvatore Bartels: televisions Harry Esterbrook: button. Salvatore Bartels: uh you have to uh click on uh a special button, uh then you go to a a next level, you can push two buttons. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but you don't Sammy Huston: Yep. Harry Esterbrook: underst uh you don't Sammy Huston: True. Harry Esterbrook: understand my point. I think Salvatore Bartels: You want Harry Esterbrook: it's exact the same thing Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: when Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: y Salvatore Bartels: some television don't support it. Harry Esterbrook: No, but Peter Terrell: But Harry Esterbrook: then Peter Terrell: the ex Harry Esterbrook: they would a would also support that button, because it's the same thing. Listen, with that that's that special but button you're talking about, eh? That's just a signal to recei ju they send a t signal to the v tv T_V_ that they have to put a one in on your screen and a dash, which you can pu so you can uh still put another number on it. When you don't have that separate button, and you push y one, it's exactly the same thing. Do y you the remote control gives that same signal Sammy Huston: No, s Harry Esterbrook: as Sammy Huston: some Salvatore Bartels: No, Harry Esterbrook: it would Salvatore Bartels: a remote Harry Esterbrook: give Salvatore Bartels: can Harry Esterbrook: when Sammy Huston: some Harry Esterbrook: you only Sammy Huston: televisions Harry Esterbrook: had Sammy Huston: need the input first Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Sammy Huston: uh Salvatore Bartels: Yes, so Sammy Huston: and Salvatore Bartels: they Harry Esterbrook: But Salvatore Bartels: need Harry Esterbrook: you Sammy Huston: and Harry Esterbrook: give Sammy Huston: you c Harry Esterbrook: the input. Salvatore Bartels: no, they Harry Esterbrook: You Salvatore Bartels: need Harry Esterbrook: push the one. That's the same thing as the button Sammy Huston: No, that's Harry Esterbrook: with Sammy Huston: not Harry Esterbrook: the one Sammy Huston: true. Harry Esterbrook: and it Sammy Huston: It's Harry Esterbrook: yes it Sammy Huston: simply Harry Esterbrook: it is. Sammy Huston: not Harry Esterbrook: Think Sammy Huston: true. Harry Esterbrook: about it. Sammy Huston: It's simply Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: No, Sammy Huston: not Salvatore Bartels: but Sammy Huston: true. Peter Terrell: You Sammy Huston: Uh Peter Terrell: uh you can Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: wai when you push the one you can show on the telly a one and just a dash, Harry Esterbrook: And it's the same Peter Terrell: and then Harry Esterbrook: thing Peter Terrell: wait Harry Esterbrook: what happens Peter Terrell: uh Harry Esterbrook: and Peter Terrell: two Harry Esterbrook: a g remote Peter Terrell: uh seconds Harry Esterbrook: control Peter Terrell: or something Harry Esterbrook: gives another signal after five seconds that is just one. Sammy Huston: No, remote control doesn't give signal after five seconds. Remote control is a stupid thing. If you push a button, it sends Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: it Harry Esterbrook: that's Sammy Huston: immediately Harry Esterbrook: true. Sammy Huston: to to the television. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but I m uh but it's I I know for sure that some televisions that w th th the Salvatore Bartels: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: remote Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: control supplied, only ha has the c these buttons with a one and a dash and a two and a dash, but when you use a bu a n remote control that doesn't sport these buttons, it still works. But okay, Sammy Huston: No, Harry Esterbrook: we Sammy Huston: definitely Harry Esterbrook: we'll impl Sammy Huston: not. Peter Terrell: We'll discuss Sammy Huston: Definitely Peter Terrell: them Sammy Huston: not. Peter Terrell: in the usability lab. Harry Esterbrook: No, we'll apply Peter Terrell: Uh eva Harry Esterbrook: them then Peter Terrell: evaluation. Harry Esterbrook: for now. Peter Terrell: I don't know uh I don't know if if it's Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, app Peter Terrell: it's Harry Esterbrook: just apply Peter Terrell: necessary. Harry Esterbrook: them next to the zero, the one and the Peter Terrell: Yeah? Harry Esterbrook: two. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, for now, if we don't know for sure whether Peter Terrell: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: And Sammy Huston: Yes. Salvatore Bartels: the button for the SCART uh Peter Terrell: Ach. Salvatore Bartels: audio video uh external Harry Esterbrook: Yeah but Salvatore Bartels: input. Sammy Huston: Uh, you can access Harry Esterbrook: okay. Sammy Huston: that uh via zero, and Harry Esterbrook: What Sammy Huston: then Harry Esterbrook: I said Sammy Huston: minus, Harry Esterbrook: about Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: uh Sammy Huston: guess. Harry Esterbrook: the remote control sending Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: another signal, that that might Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: not be true, but I still think i it it all T_V_s in some ways support it, I don't know. Salvatore Bartels: No, no. Harry Esterbrook: I think it's more c is m maybe we don't uh we both don't really understand how it i how it really works, but I think there's more to in than wha Salvatore Bartels: Uh, Harry Esterbrook: than Salvatore Bartels: remote Harry Esterbrook: what you Salvatore Bartels: control Harry Esterbrook: just said. Salvatore Bartels: sends one signal at one button uh press. Harry Esterbrook: I do think that uh m Salvatore Bartels: Uh, Harry Esterbrook: T_V_s Salvatore Bartels: some Harry Esterbrook: support mur multiple kind of remote Salvatore Bartels: N Harry Esterbrook: controls. Salvatore Bartels: some televisions Harry Esterbrook: M Salvatore Bartels: when when you want to go further than uh ten Harry Esterbrook: Th won't work wi Salvatore Bartels: No, Harry Esterbrook: with Salvatore Bartels: you Harry Esterbrook: uh Salvatore Bartels: have to you have to Harry Esterbrook: to Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: have that Salvatore Bartels: give Harry Esterbrook: special Salvatore Bartels: the television Harry Esterbrook: button. Salvatore Bartels: uh two or more signals. When you uh press one button, you give one signal. And the older televisions need more signals to go a level higher. But Sammy Huston: Yep. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, well we'll see. Salvatore Bartels: When you make the technology that that it will uh give more signals, it could work, but Just a basic idea of of of the most uh most y most common uh and simple uh operations on the Sammy Huston: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: remote. Sammy Huston: I kinda miss the docking station. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. It's here on the Peter Terrell: Well it yeah, uh there's nothing Salvatore Bartels: We came Peter Terrell: I Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: think it's pretty basic, the the there's Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: no fu there's Sammy Huston: No Peter Terrell: one Sammy Huston: nothing Peter Terrell: there's one Sammy Huston: really Peter Terrell: button, Sammy Huston: trendy about it. Peter Terrell: that's wha there's there's there's one function and that's n the one Salvatore Bartels: But Peter Terrell: button Salvatore Bartels: maybe we can Sammy Huston: The Peter Terrell: when Sammy Huston: button. Peter Terrell: you want to find Salvatore Bartels: maybe Peter Terrell: it. Salvatore Bartels: we can make the docking station uh uh a bit standard for for uh the other products we sell, because Real Real Reaction sells more products than only remote controls. Sammy Huston: Yep. Salvatore Bartels: So maybe we can uh use the docking station, for example, uh M_P_ three players or or uh uh hearing devices. Sammy Huston: I think that's very difficult, because of different shapes of uh Salvatore Bartels: Yes, but Sammy Huston: uh Salvatore Bartels: when Sammy Huston: devices. Salvatore Bartels: you put that same volt voltages on it, you can put uh when Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: the Sammy Huston: of course. Salvatore Bartels: when the when uh o the the the lowest part of it, when Sammy Huston: Mm-hmm. Salvatore Bartels: it's o the same as the other products, you can put it all on the same uh Sammy Huston: Well it it got it it has got to fit into the shape, of course. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, but we can make Sammy Huston: The technology and the voltage can be the same. That's uh that's true. But uh i if you all make the m having a bottom like this, Salvatore Bartels: No, we Sammy Huston: then Salvatore Bartels: can Sammy Huston: they Salvatore Bartels: make Sammy Huston: all Salvatore Bartels: uh make Sammy Huston: fit. Salvatore Bartels: the most lowest part all the same. Sammy Huston: Yeah, that's true, but uh Salvatore Bartels: When when the the recharger has a has a bit what points out, we can place all on top of it. Sammy Huston: Yes, but Salvatore Bartels: Just Sammy Huston: uh Salvatore Bartels: have Sammy Huston: I Salvatore Bartels: to Sammy Huston: I Salvatore Bartels: be Sammy Huston: g Salvatore Bartels: big enough for the Sammy Huston: Shouldn't Salvatore Bartels: biggest Sammy Huston: it fall then? It isn't going to fall down? That's a bit uh yeah, I Salvatore Bartels: No, Sammy Huston: think Salvatore Bartels: when you make it large enough no it it will not. But then it's Sammy Huston: No, but Salvatore Bartels: a little Sammy Huston: if Salvatore Bartels: bit Sammy Huston: if like this, I'll I'll point it out, if you got uh Salvatore Bartels: But Sammy Huston: a Salvatore Bartels: it's just Sammy Huston: a a Salvatore Bartels: an Sammy Huston: base Salvatore Bartels: idea. Sammy Huston: a base like this, I won't draw it really. If you got a base which is uh Salvatore Bartels: But Sammy Huston: as Salvatore Bartels: it's flat Sammy Huston: big as this Salvatore Bartels: it's flat as as this, so we can p make all the products Peter Terrell: You can. Salvatore Bartels: as flat as this. Sammy Huston: Yeah Peter Terrell: But Sammy Huston: sure, Peter Terrell: i Sammy Huston: but Peter Terrell: i Sammy Huston: if Peter Terrell: i Sammy Huston: you Peter Terrell: it's Sammy Huston: got if Peter Terrell: backwards. Sammy Huston: you got a tiny player, it can Salvatore Bartels: Yes, but when you make uh uh Peter Terrell: But Salvatore Bartels: a bit Peter Terrell: it's it's Salvatore Bartels: of Peter Terrell: backwards. Salvatore Bartels: big Peter Terrell: It's leaning. It's leaning backwards, I think, in Sammy Huston: Yeah. Peter Terrell: the in the Sammy Huston: Uh, wha Peter Terrell: docking Sammy Huston: what Peter Terrell: station. Sammy Huston: you could do if you uh from the bottom oh, right, Peter Terrell: That's text. Sammy Huston: help. Harry Esterbrook: But Sammy Huston: Uh, you could make like a hole in it, you know, Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Sammy Huston: of uh in in Salvatore Bartels: little Sammy Huston: the Salvatore Bartels: holer littler Uh, little Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: products go deeper Sammy Huston: That Salvatore Bartels: in Sammy Huston: i Salvatore Bartels: it. Sammy Huston: that is possible, Harry Esterbrook: Well let's Sammy Huston: yep. Harry Esterbrook: ha let's talk about the docking station later, because uh maybe Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: we have Sammy Huston: sure, Harry Esterbrook: we Sammy Huston: you're right. Harry Esterbrook: have to uh consider the docking station anyway, because we have some uh Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: cost Salvatore Bartels: And Harry Esterbrook: issues Salvatore Bartels: uh uh Harry Esterbrook: still Sammy Huston: Oh. Harry Esterbrook: to come. But we Salvatore Bartels: the Harry Esterbrook: have Salvatore Bartels: f Harry Esterbrook: to look Salvatore Bartels: the Harry Esterbrook: n I Salvatore Bartels: look Harry Esterbrook: don't Salvatore Bartels: and Harry Esterbrook: know. Salvatore Bartels: feel would be great on this uh remote control, Sammy Huston: I don't Salvatore Bartels: because Sammy Huston: like the colours. Salvatore Bartels: uh you always uh will uh pick up the remote control in Sammy Huston: Mm-hmm. Salvatore Bartels: the in the smallest uh area. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: Then your uh left thumb of uh your right thumb is uh near the programme uh button, which is the most common used uh function, and all the other buttons are available for your uh thumb. So it's Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: it's it's really good design. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Yes. Sammy Huston: Alright. Harry Esterbrook: That's it? Salvatore Bartels: Yes, uh on the side uh there will be a strip of rubber, and in the middle uh there is uh a hard Sammy Huston: The light. Salvatore Bartels: uh a hard material, a bit hard plastic with a light uh behind it. Sammy Huston: Okay. And other lights? Harry Esterbrook: I think added lights Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: are gonna Salvatore Bartels: we can Harry Esterbrook: be a problem Salvatore Bartels: make also Harry Esterbrook: too. Salvatore Bartels: n neon lights on it, or or the buttons Sammy Huston: No, o on Salvatore Bartels: that Sammy Huston: the on Salvatore Bartels: can Sammy Huston: the Salvatore Bartels: make Sammy Huston: front. Salvatore Bartels: uh light Sammy Huston: Yeah, okay. Salvatore Bartels: on it. Sammy Huston: Maybe the uh the logo. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: lights? Salvatore Bartels: But, it will also Sammy Huston: Yeah, why not? Salvatore Bartels: uh uh use batteries, and do we Sammy Huston: Of Salvatore Bartels: want Sammy Huston: course. Salvatore Bartels: to Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Peter Terrell: Mm. Harry Esterbrook: For now, uh this is uh is good enough. Sammy Huston: Okay. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, what was uh on the Salvatore Bartels: The all the aspects of the interface buttons were uh Harry Esterbrook: Okay, but in the oh yeah, the colour, one colour for the rubber, isn't Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: it? Then we're gonna do the buttons in the i are we're gonna have rubber buttons. And Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: they're be Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: a Sammy Huston: Uh, Harry Esterbrook: they'll Sammy Huston: in Harry Esterbrook: be Sammy Huston: the same Harry Esterbrook: in the same Sammy Huston: colour Harry Esterbrook: colour Sammy Huston: as the Harry Esterbrook: as Sammy Huston: side. Harry Esterbrook: the rubber on the side. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Sammy Huston: Yeah, I think Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Sammy Huston: I think Harry Esterbrook: And Sammy Huston: that'll be Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: good. Harry Esterbrook: think we Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: should use a a darker colour for the um plastic, and maybe some more m brighter and flashy Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: stuff Salvatore Bartels: maybe we can use Sammy Huston: Yes. Salvatore Bartels: on the on the lights on the side we can use uh uh multiple uh lights, so it will uh Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, we'll talk about the lights later. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: 'Cause Sammy Huston: Yep. Harry Esterbrook: I also don yeah, it's depends on the costs and such. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: But uh, and we have to agree uh upon the exact colours, but may I dunno if that's important, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, for now this Sammy Huston: We Harry Esterbrook: is Sammy Huston: will. Harry Esterbrook: this is okay. Um, the next p y you gonna give a presentation too? Uh, I have to see the agenda. Sammy Huston: Well, Salvatore Bartels: No. Sammy Huston: uh yeah, I I'm gonna do something right there, yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Detail design. Sammy Huston: We gotta do that on the right the most right-most screen, because Harry Esterbrook: Evaluation Sammy Huston: the leftmost Harry Esterbrook: criteria. Sammy Huston: Yep, that's Sammy Huston. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Peter Terrell: Okay. Sammy Huston: Alright. I will be needing that image, so leave it please. Um Go away. Right, we're gonna evaluate that design according to a few points. Um, we g the four of us are going to do that um together. I wanna have a colour over here, come on. Right, the remote is not ugly, a bit weird sentence, but the positive things has to be on the left, so I said not ugly instead of ugly. Uh, what would you say, we we gotta give points to uh to all of these to evaluate uh that design, and please forget the drawing skills of these guys. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Sammy Huston: The remote control is not ugly. How do you feel? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I think four maybe would be appropriate, because it's Yeah, maybe it really depends on taste. Uh, I mean it's kind of, our design. It's Sammy Huston: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: so Salvatore Bartels: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: if maybe a lot of people find it really ugly, you know, o other people find it really cool. Sammy Huston: Background colour. Harry Esterbrook: I don't know or uh I don't know how you Sammy Huston: How Salvatore Bartels: I Harry Esterbrook: Casting. Sammy Huston: do Salvatore Bartels: think Sammy Huston: you guys feel? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: I think the the fronts will give it a more uh uh uh less uglier uh side, because you can uh make Sammy Huston: The different Salvatore Bartels: it in your Sammy Huston: designs. Salvatore Bartels: own yes, you can Sammy Huston: Yes. Salvatore Bartels: make it in your own uh Peter Terrell: Yeah. Sammy Huston: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: more to your own personality or or house Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: style. Harry Esterbrook: but we d we didn't we're we're not planning to use fronts, I believe. Sammy Huston: No, not not fronts, but Harry Esterbrook: With Peter Terrell: No, Harry Esterbrook: a Sammy Huston: different Peter Terrell: not Harry Esterbrook: colour Peter Terrell: fronts. Sammy Huston: designs. Harry Esterbrook: a co a Peter Terrell: Different Harry Esterbrook: colours. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: designs. Harry Esterbrook: Oh, okay. Sammy Huston: And Peter Terrell: Different Sammy Huston: that's still Peter Terrell: colours Sammy Huston: uh Peter Terrell: maybe, yeah. Sammy Huston: uh, yeah, is is uh is a little Harry Esterbrook: Okay, but Sammy Huston: personal touch, I guess. Harry Esterbrook: Oh, maybe Sammy Huston: What? Harry Esterbrook: we should do three or something that w you know, our Sammy Huston: Yeah, wha wha what would you uh Salvatore Bartels: Or Sammy Huston: guys Salvatore Bartels: forty. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Sammy Huston: uh think? Personally. Personally. Peter Terrell: We can make it a one. Sammy Huston: Yes, but what is it? Salvatore Bartels: I think two or three. Peter Terrell: Mm yeah. Sammy Huston: Guido? Peter Terrell: I agree. Sammy Huston: Two or three. Peter Terrell: Um, Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: I Sammy Huston: was Peter Terrell: uh I go for the positive. So I go for two. Sammy Huston: I was thinking about three, so I guess Harry Esterbrook: Uh, I was thinking about four, so I think three is uh Sammy Huston: three Peter Terrell: Okay, Sammy Huston: is Peter Terrell: three. Sammy Huston: uh a bit uh oh, what am I doing? I'll mark it. The remote control's uh uh that n makes uh zapping easy. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah well, let that Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: let's make that Peter Terrell: Two. Harry Esterbrook: a one. Sammy Huston: Yeah? Peter Terrell: One. One. Sammy Huston: Antek, Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: you agree? Peter Terrell: Okay yeah, I'll I'll Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: agree. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: That's one thing for Sammy Huston: You're Peter Terrell: I'm Harry Esterbrook: sure. Sammy Huston: not Peter Terrell: the I'm Sammy Huston: Antek. Peter Terrell: the usability, so Sammy Huston: totally agree. The remote control the remote control's relevant buttons are prominently visible. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, two or Peter Terrell: The Harry Esterbrook: a one, I guess. It's something we really put work into. Sammy Huston: Yeah, I yeah. I Salvatore Bartels: It's Sammy Huston: would Salvatore Bartels: all Sammy Huston: say Salvatore Bartels: about Sammy Huston: a one Salvatore Bartels: the buttons. Sammy Huston: because uh every button is uh uh relevant. And our oh yeah, it's a b yeah. Yeah? Alright. That's a one? You agree? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Sammy Huston: The remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded buttons. I think we Harry Esterbrook: But Sammy Huston: totally Peter Terrell: Well Sammy Huston: succeeded there. Harry Esterbrook: Well Sammy Huston: Oh Harry Esterbrook: maybe a two, because of the menu button Peter Terrell: Yeah, well Harry Esterbrook: or Peter Terrell: menu Harry Esterbrook: something. Sammy Huston: Yeah, that's Peter Terrell: Yeah, Sammy Huston: true. Peter Terrell: maybe. Harry Esterbrook: And Sammy Huston: That's Salvatore Bartels: Also, Harry Esterbrook: telete Sammy Huston: true. Salvatore Bartels: the the the buttons of the one, the two, the Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: the digits, Harry Esterbrook: we don't know if the uh they're necessary. Salvatore Bartels: o Sammy Huston: the the yeah, m Salvatore Bartels: they're Sammy Huston: well, Salvatore Bartels: used Sammy Huston: you Salvatore Bartels: uh Sammy Huston: d Salvatore Bartels: uh Sammy Huston: you've got a point. Harry Esterbrook: I think a two. Peter Terrell: Yeah, true. Salvatore Bartels: Can yes, Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: three, Peter Terrell: I Salvatore Bartels: two. Harry Esterbrook: Came Peter Terrell: agree. Harry Esterbrook: a long way, Sammy Huston: Two Harry Esterbrook: but Sammy Huston: or three? Harry Esterbrook: not we didn't not uh Peter Terrell: Mm two. Sammy Huston: Two? Salvatore Bartels: But Sammy Huston: Antek. Salvatore Bartels: you can't make a remote control without them, Peter Terrell: Because Salvatore Bartels: because Peter Terrell: we got Sammy Huston: Nay that that that's true, that's true. They're definitely needed. Harry Esterbrook: No, w Sammy Huston: So Harry Esterbrook: w it can also always be more simplistic, Sammy Huston: we put Harry Esterbrook: but Sammy Huston: it on a Harry Esterbrook: two Sammy Huston: two? Harry Esterbrook: is yeah. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: The remote control has got a really trendy look. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. A one. Sammy Huston: Maarten. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, uh Peter Terrell: Well. Harry Esterbrook: a t I think a two. Yeah yeah, y i it's hard to say from this picture. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: We we've tried to make it uh the the best trendy Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: look uh ever. Sammy Huston: Ever, yeah. Guido. Harry Esterbrook: But Peter Terrell: Uh, Harry Esterbrook: I do Peter Terrell: I will Harry Esterbrook: think Peter Terrell: I Harry Esterbrook: it's Peter Terrell: will Harry Esterbrook: more Peter Terrell: make it a three, because uh yeah. I Harry Esterbrook: But I Peter Terrell: I Harry Esterbrook: do Peter Terrell: th Harry Esterbrook: think that it's more trendy than beautiful. Sammy Huston: Yeah, uh Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: I agree. I agree. Harry Esterbrook: So so I think Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: maybe it has Peter Terrell: True, Harry Esterbrook: to score Peter Terrell: yeah. Harry Esterbrook: higher uh on this Sammy Huston: I was Harry Esterbrook: than Sammy Huston: planning Harry Esterbrook: on the Sammy Huston: to give it a two, uh where I give the not ugly uh Harry Esterbrook: A th a three. Sammy Huston: oh, yeah, that's true. You agree on the two? Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: I i uh when you compare to the Sammy Huston: Great. Remote control hasn't got too much redundant or unneeded Harry Esterbrook: Uh uh Sammy Huston: buttons. Harry Esterbrook: what's the difference Sammy Huston: Uh, I Harry Esterbrook: with Sammy Huston: copied that one. Well, uh forget that. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Sammy Huston: Um Go away. Remote control has got innovative technology implanted. Peter Terrell: No. Salvatore Bartels: No. Harry Esterbrook: No. Peter Terrell: We're not Salvatore Bartels: No, Peter Terrell: well, maybe the Salvatore Bartels: not Peter Terrell: the Salvatore Bartels: L_C_D_, Peter Terrell: the on the side. Salvatore Bartels: so. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but we uh you mean the rubber stuff? Sammy Huston: Yeah, and the light. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Peter Terrell: And the Harry Esterbrook: but Peter Terrell: light Harry Esterbrook: we have Peter Terrell: maybe. Harry Esterbrook: t Salvatore Bartels: But Harry Esterbrook: we Salvatore Bartels: that Harry Esterbrook: have Salvatore Bartels: that's Harry Esterbrook: to talk Salvatore Bartels: not Harry Esterbrook: about Salvatore Bartels: innovative. Harry Esterbrook: the lights Peter Terrell: But Harry Esterbrook: uh. And Sammy Huston: Well, Harry Esterbrook: I don't Salvatore Bartels: Lights Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: u Sammy Huston: g Harry Esterbrook: also it's also really not innovative, Salvatore Bartels: lights are Harry Esterbrook: it's more Sammy Huston: It's not seven? Harry Esterbrook: No, six. Peter Terrell: Well, six. Harry Esterbrook: Or seven maybe, yeah. Peter Terrell: No, six. Salvatore Bartels: Six. Harry Esterbrook: Or Sammy Huston: Why Harry Esterbrook: six. Sammy Huston: uh why not Peter Terrell: Six. Sammy Huston: a seven? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, mine is seven. Salvatore Bartels: Because we've tried to make it a little bit innovative, Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: but it but Sammy Huston: How? Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: Uh it's uh depends on the on the Salvatore Bartels: With Harry Esterbrook: maybe Salvatore Bartels: the lights it it's it's kind of future Harry Esterbrook: No, Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: you Harry Esterbrook: think Sammy Huston: think Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: the lights Harry Esterbrook: think Sammy Huston: are Harry Esterbrook: actually Sammy Huston: innovative? Harry Esterbrook: it's a seven maybe, but there's nothing innovative about it. Sammy Huston: Well, it's n true. Uh, I agree, m but Salvatore Bartels: But still you can retrieve it when it's when it's gone, with the Peter Terrell: Innovative in Salvatore Bartels: with Peter Terrell: generally Sammy Huston: I'll Peter Terrell: or just Sammy Huston: Yeah, you Peter Terrell: f Sammy Huston: you didn't draw the Peter Terrell: original Sammy Huston: docking station. Peter Terrell: for Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: N no Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: The docking Harry Esterbrook: no, Sammy Huston: it Harry Esterbrook: t. Sammy Huston: it's Salvatore Bartels: station Peter Terrell: A docking Salvatore Bartels: is a Peter Terrell: station Salvatore Bartels: is a little Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: think Salvatore Bartels: bit Harry Esterbrook: I Peter Terrell: is Harry Esterbrook: mean Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: the Peter Terrell: innova Salvatore Bartels: innovative. Sammy Huston: think Harry Esterbrook: dock station, Sammy Huston: with its Harry Esterbrook: but but uh, I think Salvatore Bartels: It's Harry Esterbrook: the Salvatore Bartels: a part of the remote. Sammy Huston: I think Harry Esterbrook: the docking Sammy Huston: more Harry Esterbrook: station, Sammy Huston: m Harry Esterbrook: it's gonna be a kind of a problem. Peter Terrell: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: And with the speaker Harry Esterbrook: But Sammy Huston: Uh that Salvatore Bartels: on the Sammy Huston: that's Salvatore Bartels: there's Sammy Huston: n Salvatore Bartels: also a Harry Esterbrook: Well, Salvatore Bartels: speaker. Harry Esterbrook: let's leave it open for uh for us later to see what, because we have to reevaluate anyway. Well I i Salvatore Bartels: Okay. Harry Esterbrook: yeah. No? Sammy Huston: No uh, well, the agenda says evaluate now, so I think we Harry Esterbrook: Okay, for now it's a six Sammy Huston: It's Harry Esterbrook: or a seven Sammy Huston: it's a six. Harry Esterbrook: uh, sev six Peter Terrell: Six. Harry Esterbrook: maybe, because Salvatore Bartels: But the retrieval Sammy Huston: That m Salvatore Bartels: or Sammy Huston: f Salvatore Bartels: the Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: for the retrieval Harry Esterbrook: but I don't Sammy Huston: function. Harry Esterbrook: I don't know if it's very inno yeah. Sammy Huston: Yeah. I think that's very innovative for a Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Sammy Huston: remote Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: control. Harry Esterbrook: v Salvatore Bartels: how would you innovate a remote control more? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, more through uh like function T_V_ functionalities Salvatore Bartels: To put it on your Harry Esterbrook: and Salvatore Bartels: head. Harry Esterbrook: no no, you know what I mean. You have must be innovative technology for remote controls, but more Sammy Huston: Yeah Harry Esterbrook: in Sammy Huston: sure, Harry Esterbrook: how Sammy Huston: but Harry Esterbrook: you control stuff, not in how you find your yeah. Yeah, Sammy Huston: But I Harry Esterbrook: it's Sammy Huston: d I definitely don't think Harry Esterbrook: that's Sammy Huston: it's Harry Esterbrook: that's Sammy Huston: a five, Harry Esterbrook: think Sammy Huston: but Harry Esterbrook: about it la later on and uh Sammy Huston: Remote control is easy to use. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, as a a Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: one or a two ma Peter Terrell: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: uh Peter Terrell: a Harry Esterbrook: at least. Peter Terrell: two. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: I think a two. Yeah? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, it's good. Peter Terrell: More Sammy Huston: Come Peter Terrell: two. Sammy Huston: on. The remote control hasn't got uh. Harry Esterbrook: No, I would have seen that one before. Oh, you skipped one uh Sammy Huston: I've just filled uh Harry Esterbrook: Uh, here. Sammy Huston: Go away. Salvatore Bartels: You like the buttons. Sammy Huston: I found twelve questions so much, but it still is Harry Esterbrook: Remote Sammy Huston: ten. Harry Esterbrook: control will be bought by Sammy Huston: It will be bought by people under the age of forty. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Peter Terrell: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: Definitely. Salvatore Bartels: In Harry Esterbrook: Well Salvatore Bartels: in and comparing with uh people of th of Sammy Huston: No Salvatore Bartels: the age Sammy Huston: no no. Salvatore Bartels: above? Harry Esterbrook: Uh, Sammy Huston: No, Harry Esterbrook: just Sammy Huston: just Harry Esterbrook: in general. Sammy Huston: if they if they buy it. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, a two. Salvatore Bartels: We don't know. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: But Harry Esterbrook: but Sammy Huston: Yeah, what Harry Esterbrook: I think Sammy Huston: do you think? Harry Esterbrook: I Peter Terrell: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: think two. Peter Terrell: I think two, yeah. I agree. Sammy Huston: Antek? Peter Terrell: Two. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, two, but only in c when you compare it with with elderly. Harry Esterbrook: Uh, that Sammy Huston: No, Harry Esterbrook: is Sammy Huston: that's Harry Esterbrook: not the Sammy Huston: no Harry Esterbrook: question. Sammy Huston: comparison. Harry Esterbrook: It's just w it will be bought by people under forty. Yeah, you can yeah, you can be very Sammy Huston: And I don't Harry Esterbrook: picky about Sammy Huston: mean Salvatore Bartels: This Harry Esterbrook: it. Salvatore Bartels: is Sammy Huston: two Salvatore Bartels: just Sammy Huston: people. Salvatore Bartels: guessing. Harry Esterbrook: Ah yeah, just make it we'll make Salvatore Bartels: Make Sammy Huston: W Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: a Sammy Huston: w Salvatore Bartels: a Harry Esterbrook: two. Salvatore Bartels: two. When it succeeds, uh it can get a two, mu Sammy Huston: Right, the rem The remote control has Harry Esterbrook: Oh Sammy Huston: recognisable Harry Esterbrook: no. Sammy Huston: corporate image, colour, Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Sammy Huston: logo or slogan. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, you have Peter Terrell: We don't Harry Esterbrook: make Peter Terrell: have Harry Esterbrook: an Peter Terrell: the slogan though. Harry Esterbrook: slogan is quite obvious. Sammy Huston: Oh, the slogan. Harry Esterbrook: Oh the oh Sammy Huston: Can Harry Esterbrook: sorry, Sammy Huston: we see the slogan? Harry Esterbrook: no, not not the slogan. Peter Terrell: The logo. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: A logo. Harry Esterbrook: you can put that on the side if if we would like Peter Terrell: Underneath Harry Esterbrook: to. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Peter Terrell: it Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: or something. Salvatore Bartels: encrypted uh with Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, and I will Sammy Huston: Are Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: we Harry Esterbrook: th Sammy Huston: gonna do that? Harry Esterbrook: still think it's gonna be a two Peter Terrell: A Harry Esterbrook: or Peter Terrell: three. Harry Esterbrook: a three. Maybe Peter Terrell: Three. Harry Esterbrook: a three this time. Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: a three. Sammy Huston: Three? I agree. Because of the slogan Harry Esterbrook: And Sammy Huston: Remote Harry Esterbrook: uh Sammy Huston: control's got a basic design intended uh for Harry Esterbrook: Uh, Sammy Huston: novice Harry Esterbrook: it's a one Sammy Huston: users. Harry Esterbrook: or a two. Peter Terrell: Yeah, two. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: Two? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Peter Terrell: Two. Harry Esterbrook: make it a two. Sammy Huston: Two. Alright. We gotta add up the scores now to see our total average. Four, five, seven, nine. Forget that. Fifteen, seventeen, twenty one, twenty four, twenty six. Twenty six. It's a two point six. Harry Esterbrook: It's not that bad. Sammy Huston: Alright, we yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, and that's mostly the inno when we uh score higher on innovative technology, we would score two, Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: which is Sammy Huston: True. Harry Esterbrook: uh quite a great score. Okay. Uh, this is was uh the evaluation? Sammy Huston: This was my evaluation. Harry Esterbrook: Because I Sammy Huston: So Harry Esterbrook: I still think that the most important part Sammy Huston: We did Harry Esterbrook: of this Sammy Huston: a pretty Harry Esterbrook: meeting Sammy Huston: nice Harry Esterbrook: still has Sammy Huston: job until now. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Sammy Huston: Um, is this your Salvatore Bartels: Is there something Sammy Huston: Whatever. Salvatore Bartels: after this uh meeting? Sammy Huston: Well, I think Salvatore Bartels: Or Sammy Huston: we gotta fill out Peter Terrell: No. Sammy Huston: another questionnaire. Salvatore Bartels: Okay. Peter Terrell: Okay, yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Still opened or uh Yeah. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, finance. Because um Peter Terrell: Shoot. Harry Esterbrook: I received Sammy Huston: A five. Harry Esterbrook: uh a spreadsheet. Sammy Huston: A five. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but I uh actually don't need this presentation, I guess. Oh. Sammy Huston: Doesn't matter. Harry Esterbrook: I'm gonna open the spreadsheet and we're gonna work this out together, because I didn't really fin uh I have a. Didn't really finish it. Well, we uh We'll see. We'll stumble upon some problems. Sammy Huston: We probably will. Harry Esterbrook: I probably have already opened it here. try it again. First of all, the mm all the docking station and costs and such are not included in this list. But let's let's st start with beginning. We include one battery. I i uh I'll explain its Uh, the the components are listed over here. Uh, price is given. We um Sammy Huston: The amount, yeah. Harry Esterbrook: yeah, we we uh indicate the amount of components of the specif specific component, how much we need of them. And then uh, we'll uh calcula Don't watch the number yet. I don't know if it's filled in properly. Okay, we need one battery. One battery. I think Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: one battery is enough. We don't need kinetic, solar cells, hand dynamo. A s okay, this this is a p first problem. Uh, I think we should know how many simple chips, regular Salvatore Bartels: Uh it's Harry Esterbrook: chips Salvatore Bartels: it's one one chip, but but you have to choose one from it. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. But Salvatore Bartels: The simple chip is e enough I I think, but with Sammy Huston: I Salvatore Bartels: the Sammy Huston: don't Salvatore Bartels: lights Sammy Huston: know Salvatore Bartels: with the lights and the retrieval, Harry Esterbrook: Where Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: did Salvatore Bartels: can Harry Esterbrook: we Salvatore Bartels: be Harry Esterbrook: find Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: this information? Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: Was Sammy Huston: haven't Harry Esterbrook: it Sammy Huston: got an idea on on which we need to use, really. Salvatore Bartels: No, uh Harry Esterbrook: I think Peter Terrell: No. Salvatore Bartels: I Harry Esterbrook: it was uh your job in the first uh meet Uh, f your first presentation to make this clear, but Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: then you Salvatore Bartels: my Harry Esterbrook: had some Salvatore Bartels: my Harry Esterbrook: t Salvatore Bartels: my Harry Esterbrook: time problems. Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: But do you th you do you know what chip we need? Salvatore Bartels: The the email I got said uh simple chip, but when we put in the speaker and the retriever uh device, Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: it will uh cost a a bit more, like I think the advanced chip maybe. Sammy Huston: And how do you know? I mean, you got that email. Salvatore Bartels: Bec Sammy Huston: Did it point out Harry Esterbrook: Maybe you can Sammy Huston: what Salvatore Bartels: No, Harry Esterbrook: uh look Sammy Huston: to Salvatore Bartels: the Sammy Huston: use Harry Esterbrook: it up Sammy Huston: them Harry Esterbrook: right Sammy Huston: for? Harry Esterbrook: now. Salvatore Bartels: they didn't know about a retriever or a Harry Esterbrook: Okay, but Salvatore Bartels: speaker Harry Esterbrook: okay. Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: When we Salvatore Bartels: in Harry Esterbrook: don't Salvatore Bartels: it. Harry Esterbrook: when we leave the uh retriever and such aside, what Salvatore Bartels: Then it's a simple chip. Harry Esterbrook: then it would be a simple chip. And with the retriever, it would be an advanced chip. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Sammy Huston: Alright, Salvatore Bartels: I Sammy Huston: well, Salvatore Bartels: I I s I Sammy Huston: point out the advanced chip for now, I guess. Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: That will be enough Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: for Harry Esterbrook: but Salvatore Bartels: future Harry Esterbrook: it will Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: recommendations. Harry Esterbrook: will it will be cause a lot of problems. The sample sensor sample speaker. What is it m is that the speaker we were t I don't know what it is. Salvatore Bartels: I don't know it uh either. Sammy Huston: I don't know. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, we went for the double-curved case Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: made out of plastic and rubber. And with a special colour. I guess that's what we were Peter Terrell: Well, special colour. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I don't know about the special colour, Salvatore Bartels: Otherwise, Harry Esterbrook: but Sammy Huston: I Salvatore Bartels: you Sammy Huston: don't Peter Terrell: I Salvatore Bartels: get Peter Terrell: don't Sammy Huston: know Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: if Harry Esterbrook: think Sammy Huston: it's Salvatore Bartels: uh Sammy Huston: very special. Harry Esterbrook: w Salvatore Bartels: a Harry Esterbrook: uh Salvatore Bartels: standard uh plastic colour. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I think we uh Peter Terrell: Mm Harry Esterbrook: we have Peter Terrell: okay. Harry Esterbrook: special Salvatore Bartels: Standard Harry Esterbrook: colours. Salvatore Bartels: rubber. Sammy Huston: Alright, that's okay. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, Salvatore Bartels: St Harry Esterbrook: then the push-button, I was just counting them. Uh, I think you have to indicate the amount of push-buttons we want to use, isn't it? Peter Terrell: Whoa, it's Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: a little Harry Esterbrook: Well that's bit of a problem, because Peter Terrell: That's huge. Harry Esterbrook: I re but I really don't understand that, because I can imagine a remote control with far more push-buttons, and it wouldn't be possible according to this Peter Terrell: No. Harry Esterbrook: uh Peter Terrell: We have Harry Esterbrook: sheet. Peter Terrell: the simplest Sammy Huston: No. Peter Terrell: buttons. Salvatore Bartels: No, it's only Harry Esterbrook: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: uh when you use push-buttons, it will cost that much. Sammy Huston: I don't think so, Salvatore Bartels: If you Sammy Huston: because Salvatore Bartels: use a Sammy Huston: it Salvatore Bartels: scroll-wheel Harry Esterbrook: Ah. Sammy Huston: says amount. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, it Sammy Huston: The Harry Esterbrook: wouldn't Sammy Huston: the the yellow row is the amount Harry Esterbrook: Fill Sammy Huston: of Harry Esterbrook: in the number of components you plan to use in the and the total cost I don't know. Salvatore Bartels: Maybe Harry Esterbrook: I Salvatore Bartels: it's the kind of push-buttons. You can have f four kind of push-buttons. Rubber. Peter Terrell: Uh, one til Salvatore Bartels: You Peter Terrell: nine. Salvatore Bartels: can have Peter Terrell: Is that Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: one or is that nine Harry Esterbrook: And I count them Peter Terrell: buttons? Harry Esterbrook: like this. One two three uh four five six seven eight nine ten Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: eleven twelve and thirteen. Because Oh, this is oh, this is one, okay. Twelve, okay, then it would be eighteen, because uh, I uh rated them as uh um Sammy Huston: To Harry Esterbrook: as Sammy Huston: n Harry Esterbrook: uh Sammy Huston: that's Salvatore Bartels: Different, Sammy Huston: total Harry Esterbrook: uh uh separate Sammy Huston: of four Harry Esterbrook: buttons. Sammy Huston: buttons. Salvatore Bartels: yes. Harry Esterbrook: Yes. And Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: plus Sammy Huston: think Harry Esterbrook: these Sammy Huston: that Harry Esterbrook: two, f uh plus the mute button, and it's will be uh eighteen. Sammy Huston: Eighteen. One two three four five, si Salvatore Bartels: Why is that so uh expensive. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I don't understand. Y I do I don't get the point, because it's would be s relatively so expensive, just these m small buttons. Peter Terrell: Is it cents, the the the fifty cents Sammy Huston: Fifty cents Peter Terrell: a button? Sammy Huston: for one single stupid button. Salvatore Bartels: So, whe Peter Terrell: No Salvatore Bartels: when Peter Terrell: way. Salvatore Bartels: you so Harry Esterbrook: Well, Salvatore Bartels: then Harry Esterbrook: okay, well Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: well let's make it just one. Salvatore Bartels: It's eighty percent of the price of the of Harry Esterbrook: Here, Salvatore Bartels: the Harry Esterbrook: now Salvatore Bartels: amount Harry Esterbrook: it's Salvatore Bartels: of Harry Esterbrook: now it's already Sammy Huston: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: s shall we just give our own interpretation to, because else we would really have a problem. It would be impossible to make Sammy Huston: I can't Harry Esterbrook: it Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: It's Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: way Sammy Huston: I couldn't understand it if it was fifty cents per uh uh per button. Salvatore Bartels: When you have the Sammy Huston: Really. Salvatore Bartels: same amount of button, you have to put in wi in your carton. Board. Harry Esterbrook: And and less Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: And then throw Harry Esterbrook: buttons Sammy Huston: yeah, Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: than this isn't possible. This is Peter Terrell: No, Harry Esterbrook: the most Peter Terrell: no Harry Esterbrook: simple Peter Terrell: no. Harry Esterbrook: yeah, it is possible, but Salvatore Bartels: But Harry Esterbrook: I've Salvatore Bartels: whe Harry Esterbrook: never seen one before. Salvatore Bartels: I've seen Sammy Huston: No, Salvatore Bartels: one Sammy Huston: really. Salvatore Bartels: uh one remote control Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: with Harry Esterbrook: without Salvatore Bartels: only the Harry Esterbrook: the numbers. Salvatore Bartels: pu yeah, only Harry Esterbrook: That's Salvatore Bartels: with Harry Esterbrook: possible. Salvatore Bartels: uh page up, page down Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: and Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: volume, Harry Esterbrook: we could Peter Terrell: uh Harry Esterbrook: skip Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: the numbers. Sammy Huston: Yeah, but Salvatore Bartels: but Sammy Huston: I d I wouldn't want to own that. Really. Peter Terrell: That's still Salvatore Bartels: Uh, it's it's Peter Terrell: four. Salvatore Bartels: still for little children. They can handle that remote Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: control, but Harry Esterbrook: Then uh, Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: teletext Salvatore Bartels: it isn't fo Harry Esterbrook: would also be im impossible. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, it's for it's li uh it's Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: just for Peter Terrell: that's Salvatore Bartels: a Peter Terrell: no Salvatore Bartels: little Harry Esterbrook: Okay, Peter Terrell: option, Harry Esterbrook: we'll Peter Terrell: that's Harry Esterbrook: we'll Peter Terrell: no Harry Esterbrook: just Peter Terrell: option. Harry Esterbrook: okay. But then still, when we there's no room for a docking station or something. Tha w Le let's see th we have uh oh yeah, button supplements. We'll give the buttons special colour. We'll give them a special form. Uh, I think we should mark the special form thing, because it this will be some special forms incorporated in these big buttons, I guess. Peter Terrell: A special colour, why a special colour? Harry Esterbrook: Because the buttons will be uh d will be matching colour Peter Terrell: But Harry Esterbrook: between Peter Terrell: wha what Harry Esterbrook: the buttons Peter Terrell: s what Harry Esterbrook: and the Peter Terrell: special? Harry Esterbrook: rubber surroundings. Salvatore Bartels: Otherwise, Harry Esterbrook: I think that's Peter Terrell: Okay, Salvatore Bartels: it Harry Esterbrook: the what Peter Terrell: yeah. Harry Esterbrook: they mean by a special colour. Salvatore Bartels: Otherwise Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: Uh, Sammy Huston: don't think Peter Terrell: yeah. Salvatore Bartels: it Sammy Huston: the special Harry Esterbrook: I Salvatore Bartels: would Harry Esterbrook: think Salvatore Bartels: be Sammy Huston: form Harry Esterbrook: all Salvatore Bartels: the Harry Esterbrook: the Sammy Huston: is Harry Esterbrook: special Sammy Huston: really true. Harry Esterbrook: colour things have to be marked over here, because that's what we were planning to do, making it Salvatore Bartels: Special form also, it says. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, special Sammy Huston: Is it? Harry Esterbrook: material r also, because i has rubber. And the buttons have to be rubber. Salvatore Bartels: What is the normal material? Sammy Huston: Yeah, Peter Terrell: Plastic. Sammy Huston: I dunno. Salvatore Bartels: Sh Peter Terrell: Plastic, Salvatore Bartels: yeah. Peter Terrell: I think. Salvatore Bartels: Classic? Peter Terrell: Plastic. Sammy Huston: Plastic. Salvatore Bartels: Oh, plastic. Harry Esterbrook: 'Kay, but the problem now is that the There's no such thing as a docking station in this list, but we can all imagine that it would be impossible to Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: make a docking station for thirty cents. Salvatore Bartels: But we can uh sell the remote control and uh sell the docking station Harry Esterbrook: Separately. Peter Terrell: Se Salvatore Bartels: yes. Peter Terrell: no no Salvatore Bartels: And Peter Terrell: no. Salvatore Bartels: and but we don't have to tell it, but what we can say of can um almost make it impossible to buy a remote control without the docking station. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I do like the idea, but we yeah. It uh but it then the docking station isn't relevant for this project anymore, but we can Sammy Huston: No. Salvatore Bartels: No, but you Harry Esterbrook: but then Salvatore Bartels: otherwise you can't Harry Esterbrook: you Salvatore Bartels: retrieve Harry Esterbrook: still have to use Salvatore Bartels: it. Harry Esterbrook: we have to find out what chip we u need. Sammy Huston: Yeah, I really don't get it. I mean if it's a simple chip, then Harry Esterbrook: I think Sammy Huston: we Harry Esterbrook: we Sammy Huston: suddenly Harry Esterbrook: can agree Sammy Huston: got Harry Esterbrook: on this. Sammy Huston: two Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: Euros and Harry Esterbrook: I Sammy Huston: thirty Harry Esterbrook: think Sammy Huston: cents. Harry Esterbrook: the special colour thing has to be uh marked. 'Cause I think we Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: uh Sammy Huston: yep. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I think that's what what what they uh Salvatore Bartels: But for Harry Esterbrook: mean Salvatore Bartels: two Euros Sammy Huston: I think so, Salvatore Bartels: and Sammy Huston: too. Salvatore Bartels: thirty cents, we uh we don't get a docking station. Sammy Huston: Oh, I don't know. Harry Esterbrook: But can we find out uh about uh this chips? Because when we don't need a d a docking station, then probably we also have only we also need a simple chip. Peter Terrell: And then we can get a docking Harry Esterbrook: And maybe Peter Terrell: station. Harry Esterbrook: then we can do something extra. Salvatore Bartels: For Harry Esterbrook: Oh, n uh oh, still oh, it's gonna get more expensive with. Two. Then we have some money left. We can put then Salvatore Bartels: For two Euros. Harry Esterbrook: We can put a scroll-wheel on it or something. Yeah, well who knows. Sammy Huston: Uh why? I Harry Esterbrook: Or Sammy Huston: mean Harry Esterbrook: a little Sammy Huston: i Harry Esterbrook: bit Sammy Huston: i if Harry Esterbrook: of tin Sammy Huston: you Harry Esterbrook: titanium. Sammy Huston: if it would cost two Euros, that had a total a total thing, it would be nice too, I mean uh we're not gonna add uh Peter Terrell: But what Sammy Huston: a trip Peter Terrell: what Sammy Huston: to Peter Terrell: can Sammy Huston: Hawaii Peter Terrell: we do Sammy Huston: to Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: it. Harry Esterbrook: or we can ki do the kinetic cells. That's also maybe an idea. Peter Terrell: But uh what can we do with the simple chip and what's difference Harry Esterbrook: Yeah that's Peter Terrell: with Harry Esterbrook: what Peter Terrell: a Harry Esterbrook: then Peter Terrell: regular Harry Esterbrook: what he has Peter Terrell: chip Harry Esterbrook: to find Peter Terrell: and a advanced Harry Esterbrook: out. Maybe you can Peter Terrell: chip? Harry Esterbrook: uh find it in your email right now, then we know Peter Terrell: If if Harry Esterbrook: then we Peter Terrell: i Harry Esterbrook: exactly know what it will cost us. Maybe is that that's nice to know. Peter Terrell: Regular chip and because we don't have uh special functions to use uh Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, bu bu but Peter Terrell: in advanced Harry Esterbrook: when we Peter Terrell: chip, for example. Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: yeah, Sammy Huston: like the hand dynamo part. Harry Esterbrook: but when we skip when we um when we don't use the do we're not gonna make the docking station, then we still yeah, we need something else maybe to make it kind of special, because that was our our special feature. Sammy Huston: We can make a plain Peter Terrell: Yeah. Sammy Huston: docking station for two Euros. Peter Terrell: We'll Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: go Sammy Huston: mean Peter Terrell: back uh Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, okay, Peter Terrell: tomorrow. Harry Esterbrook: you can also do that, but maybe Sammy Huston: Wi wi without recharge Harry Esterbrook: It still is a special remote control cons uh you know, wi its form is special Sammy Huston: Yeah, but but Harry Esterbrook: and Sammy Huston: we can make a docking Harry Esterbrook: material. Sammy Huston: station for two Euros uh if you don't put the recharge function in it. I mean, it has a shape. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but Sammy Huston: Of Harry Esterbrook: for Sammy Huston: course Harry Esterbrook: two Sammy Huston: it has Harry Esterbrook: Euros, Sammy Huston: a shape, but Harry Esterbrook: then Sammy Huston: i Harry Esterbrook: we have Sammy Huston: i Harry Esterbrook: still maybe we have to use the advanced chip, then two Euros isn't even possible. Sammy Huston: Why should that not be possible? Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, then because then we'd thirty cents left. Sammy Huston: No, for for the uh for the docking station if you do if you choose the simple chip. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, because maybe d uh yeah, we have to find Peter Terrell: That's Harry Esterbrook: out with Peter Terrell: the Harry Esterbrook: the Peter Terrell: question. Harry Esterbrook: simple chip. Peter Terrell: If we do i do we need an advanced chip, or Sammy Huston: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Peter Terrell: is Harry Esterbrook: and Peter Terrell: it Harry Esterbrook: w Peter Terrell: okay Harry Esterbrook: and and Peter Terrell: f Harry Esterbrook: we Salvatore Bartels: It Harry Esterbrook: uh need Salvatore Bartels: isn't Harry Esterbrook: f Salvatore Bartels: in my Harry Esterbrook: and Salvatore Bartels: information, Harry Esterbrook: what is this? Sample Salvatore Bartels: so Harry Esterbrook: sensor Salvatore Bartels: I don't know Harry Esterbrook: sample Salvatore Bartels: it uh Harry Esterbrook: speaker. Salvatore Bartels: either. It isn't in my information, I uh I I've got a schematic view of the remote control, but nothing about uh advanced chips or Harry Esterbrook: You can look at it for s presentation. S technical functions? Peter Terrell: No. Salvatore Bartels: Uh I've got here Peter Terrell: No Salvatore Bartels: in Peter Terrell: no, Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: they were uh mine, Salvatore Bartels: I will Peter Terrell: yeah. Salvatore Bartels: put Harry Esterbrook: Oh. Salvatore Bartels: a I will put a page on it. When my mouse works again. Harry Esterbrook: Oh, oh oh. Hey. Oh. Salvatore Bartels: My mouse is uh Sammy Huston: Dead. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: Reanimate it. Salvatore Bartels: Oh. Peter Terrell: Died. Salvatore Bartels: Ah, I've got it. I will put uh my email on the the network. Sammy Huston: What the hell are these? Salvatore Bartels: It's on it. Sammy Huston: Oh, whatever. Peter Terrell: Yeah, it's open. Harry Esterbrook: Mm. I don't think here Peter Terrell: It's circuit Harry Esterbrook: it's in Peter Terrell: board. Harry Esterbrook: here already. Peter Terrell: It's only just Harry Esterbrook: It's nothing about Peter Terrell: basics Harry Esterbrook: s yeah. Peter Terrell: for for Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Peter Terrell: At the end circuit Sammy Huston: This isn't helpful. Peter Terrell: there is an infrared Harry Esterbrook: No. Peter Terrell: LED. Harry Esterbrook: But i in the presentation of yours, there was also something about different components. Which one was it? Peter Terrell: Components design. Harry Esterbrook: Functional requirements? Salvatore Bartels: Um Sammy Huston: No, that was my presentation. Peter Terrell: Components design maybe. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Peter Terrell: N on Salvatore Bartels: that Peter Terrell: top. Salvatore Bartels: was mine. Harry Esterbrook: Ah. Ah yes, it was the second one. Salvatore Bartels: But that was my second Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: It's Harry Esterbrook: it was Sammy Huston: already Harry Esterbrook: your second Sammy Huston: open. Harry Esterbrook: your first presentation. Sammy Huston: It's at the bottom. Peter Terrell: Working Harry Esterbrook: Sorry? Peter Terrell: design. Sammy Huston: It's uh at your task bar. Peter Terrell: Yeah, but it's the the other one. Sammy Huston: Oh. Salvatore Bartels: Mm Harry Esterbrook: Uh, Peter Terrell: Was it Harry Esterbrook: this Peter Terrell: working Harry Esterbrook: is n this Sammy Huston: Sorry. Peter Terrell: design Harry Esterbrook: is not this Peter Terrell: or components design? Harry Esterbrook: n that's not the right one. I don't oh. Sammy Huston: Okay, sorry. Harry Esterbrook: No, this is the other one. Or maybe something is uh maybe there's something abo in in these Peter Terrell: Chip set. Salvatore Bartels: But this is the same uh This is o only the possibilities. Harry Esterbrook: Here. Salvatore Bartels: Yeah. We can use a simple, a regular, or advanced chip. Sammy Huston: Yeah, nice. Peter Terrell: The Sammy Huston: I it Peter Terrell: display Sammy Huston: doesn't say Peter Terrell: requires Sammy Huston: anything. Harry Esterbrook: You know Peter Terrell: an Harry Esterbrook: that Peter Terrell: advanced Harry Esterbrook: a push-button Peter Terrell: chip. Harry Esterbrook: requires a simple chip, but a scroll-wheel, it it Sammy Huston requires Salvatore Bartels: Ah, okay. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, so we only Peter Terrell: Requires. Harry Esterbrook: need a simple chip. Salvatore Bartels: With the light. Peter Terrell: Little lights. Yeah, but that that's just the same as the Harry Esterbrook: No no, that's Peter Terrell: the LED. Harry Esterbrook: just a simple chip. Sammy Huston: That's not needed. Harry Esterbrook: A scroll-wheel it s uh only states that a scroll-wheel requires a regular chip, and that a display requires an advanced chip. So, we don't Sammy Huston: A display Harry Esterbrook: need any of them. Sammy Huston: uh is, of course, uh for showing Salvatore Bartels: L_C_D_. Sammy Huston: letters. For showing text. Peter Terrell: Yeah. Sammy Huston: I don't think that uh Peter Terrell: No. Sammy Huston: just a l a little light Peter Terrell: I think uh the uh normal uh simple chip will Sammy Huston: Yeah, Peter Terrell: be okay. Sammy Huston: I agree. Harry Esterbrook: And what's the sample sensor slash sample speaker? Salvatore Bartels: Maybe you can say against the remote uh page uh Peter Terrell: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: f uh page up, page Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: down. Sammy Huston: I guess so too. Peter Terrell: Yeah, true. Sammy Huston: Next Peter Terrell: Well, that's not Sammy Huston: channel. Peter Terrell: too what we want. Sammy Huston: No. Well, we might want it, but Harry Esterbrook: Okay. Salvatore Bartels: All in twelve Harry Esterbrook: Back Salvatore Bartels: Euros. Harry Esterbrook: to the costs. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: Twelve Euros and fifty cents. Harry Esterbrook: So we're Peter Terrell: So, Harry Esterbrook: gonna Peter Terrell: simple Harry Esterbrook: use the simple Peter Terrell: chip is okay. Harry Esterbrook: chip. Sammy Huston: Great. Delete. Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: And the lights. Where uh are the lights? Peter Terrell: lights, yeah, there's no Sammy Huston: Well, there're three, I guess. Peter Terrell: category. Harry Esterbrook: Nah, there is some money left to be spent. Peter Terrell: Can we do it wi within Sammy Huston: I think Peter Terrell: two Sammy Huston: we can make a docking Peter Terrell: two Euro? Sammy Huston: station. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, but what we have to think Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: about now is that is is it still a special remote control? But I mean it isn't it hasn't got any innovative technology, we aren't gonna apply any uh innovated innovative te technology anyway, I think. Peter Terrell: Mm-hmm. Harry Esterbrook: I don't I don't see any possibility to do so, because it would wouldn't fit our Peter Terrell: But it's Harry Esterbrook: defi Peter Terrell: original. Harry Esterbrook: design philosophy. But Sammy Huston: No, Harry Esterbrook: what Sammy Huston: that's Harry Esterbrook: w is there Sammy Huston: true. Harry Esterbrook: some extra maybe I think maybe the kinetic thing is something. Instead of the rechargeable the rechargeable thing was something to um know, so y so people wouldn't Sammy Huston: M Harry Esterbrook: have Sammy Huston: bu Harry Esterbrook: to worry about their batteries anymore. Maybe we if we put the kinetic Salvatore Bartels: But Harry Esterbrook: thing Salvatore Bartels: but Harry Esterbrook: in Salvatore Bartels: sometimes Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: you put Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: a Harry Esterbrook: you leave the p yeah, I know, but still I they will think about that. I mean if Salvatore Bartels: Kinetics Harry Esterbrook: you u Salvatore Bartels: aren't uh nowadays only used in watches and Harry Esterbrook: The Salvatore Bartels: that's Harry Esterbrook: uh Salvatore Bartels: because Harry Esterbrook: it's made Salvatore Bartels: you're always Harry Esterbrook: for Salvatore Bartels: walking. Harry Esterbrook: s people well, the they don't if it was uh uh r useless technology, they wouldn't put it uh as a possibility. Salvatore Bartels: Uh solar cells Harry Esterbrook: And i Salvatore Bartels: are Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: useless. Harry Esterbrook: it Sammy Huston: Or the hand Harry Esterbrook: th th Sammy Huston: dynamo Harry Esterbrook: the the target Sammy Huston: dynamo Harry Esterbrook: the target uh group are people who zap regularly and throw with their remote control as a matter of speaking. Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: Because I think it when when there w was a remote control where it was useful to have a kinetic uh uh power source, then it would be this one. Because it's one it gets thrown around thrown around a lot and it gets used a lot Hey that maybe that's Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: cool Sammy Huston: but but Harry Esterbrook: that's a cool thing Sammy Huston: if Harry Esterbrook: about Sammy Huston: we ca Harry Esterbrook: it, you know. You don't use batteries. I've never seen it before in a remote control. Sammy Huston: I don't Peter Terrell: But Sammy Huston: know Peter Terrell: then Sammy Huston: if Peter Terrell: we could make a docking station. Sammy Huston: Five minutes. Harry Esterbrook: No, we we we can't make a docking station anyway. Sammy Huston: That's not true. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, we can als or uh also m we we can make Sammy Huston: We can Harry Esterbrook: one Sammy Huston: make Peter Terrell: Wow, Sammy Huston: a docking Peter Terrell: w Sammy Huston: station Peter Terrell: why Harry Esterbrook: we Sammy Huston: for Harry Esterbrook: can Peter Terrell: no Sammy Huston: two Harry Esterbrook: still Peter Terrell: li Sammy Huston: thirty. Harry Esterbrook: make Peter Terrell: Look at now, we got two Sammy Huston: Two Salvatore Bartels: Fo Sammy Huston: thirty. Peter Terrell: two thirty left. Sammy Huston: We Salvatore Bartels: for Sammy Huston: can Peter Terrell: Ca Sammy Huston: make Peter Terrell: can't Salvatore Bartels: a docking Sammy Huston: a docking Peter Terrell: we Salvatore Bartels: station. Peter Terrell: make Sammy Huston: station. Peter Terrell: a docking station Sammy Huston: Sure. Peter Terrell: of that? Salvatore Bartels: With a cable, with uh buttons on it, Sammy Huston: Sure. Salvatore Bartels: with retrieval uh device Peter Terrell: I don't Salvatore Bartels: in Peter Terrell: know. Salvatore Bartels: it. Sammy Huston: The power device is is i i is very cheap. That's just a regular uh power cable and Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: whatever. Harry Esterbrook: but be serious, then uh the Salvatore Bartels: Wi Harry Esterbrook: docking station will be Peter Terrell: Well, we Harry Esterbrook: a Salvatore Bartels: with Harry Esterbrook: fifth Peter Terrell: we Salvatore Bartels: a Peter Terrell: uh Salvatore Bartels: button Harry Esterbrook: of the price Salvatore Bartels: to Harry Esterbrook: of the remote control. Sammy Huston: So. Salvatore Bartels: wi with a button to retrieve it, so it will beep. Uh, Sammy Huston: Yeah. Salvatore Bartels: so it's uh wireless Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but we uh Salvatore Bartels: technology. Harry Esterbrook: we don't inc we haven't looked at the these costs of the speaker and other stuff. I don't think it's realistic for you to do so. Sammy Huston: Well then it's a useless project. Salvatore Bartels: Look at the case, Harry Esterbrook: Oh, because Salvatore Bartels: the case Harry Esterbrook: we Salvatore Bartels: the case of of uh of Peter Terrell: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: uh Peter Terrell: then we don't have Harry Esterbrook: We well Peter Terrell: any Harry Esterbrook: look Peter Terrell: innovation Harry Esterbrook: at all the special Peter Terrell: things. Harry Esterbrook: stuff we have. Colour a the colours are special, the form is special. It th this is whole concept. Uh Sammy Huston: Can't Harry Esterbrook: maybe Sammy Huston: we Harry Esterbrook: it Sammy Huston: uh Harry Esterbrook: with the kinetic thing, I think we could do uh do a compromise uh with the kim Sammy Huston: Can't Harry Esterbrook: kinetic Sammy Huston: we say fifteen Harry Esterbrook: thing. Sammy Huston: Euros? No, sta yeah Harry Esterbrook: Uh, no. Sammy Huston: I mean Salvatore Bartels: No, then we have to sell it for thirty Euros. Sammy Huston: No. Peter Terrell: No, we Salvatore Bartels: It's Peter Terrell: only Salvatore Bartels: the Peter Terrell: make less profit of it. Sammy Huston: You can sell for twenty seven and a half. Then you make as much profit as Peter Terrell: No. Sammy Huston: you would with twelve and a half production costs. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, I don my suggestion is to just forget about the whole docking station thing and make it uh like a Uh uh I I I I still fee I also feel this concept of making it kinetic, because of the you know, it g Sammy Huston: I Harry Esterbrook: it Sammy Huston: don't Harry Esterbrook: gives Sammy Huston: think Harry Esterbrook: something Salvatore Bartels: Maybe we Harry Esterbrook: dynamic Salvatore Bartels: can uh can Harry Esterbrook: to the Salvatore Bartels: do Harry Esterbrook: remote Salvatore Bartels: it both. Harry Esterbrook: control. Salvatore Bartels: Maybe we can do it both uh in the in the in the remote. Battery and kinetic. Sammy Huston: No. Harry Esterbrook: No, that wouldn't n no. Sammy Huston: Thirteen twenty. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, and it is also not a good it's not you Sammy Huston: And Harry Esterbrook: have Sammy Huston: I think Harry Esterbrook: to really Sammy Huston: only Harry Esterbrook: do it only kinetic, you don't want it to think about batteries anymore. Salvatore Bartels: Yes, but Sammy Huston: Yeah, Salvatore Bartels: when Sammy Huston: but only Salvatore Bartels: it's then Sammy Huston: kinetic, Salvatore Bartels: when it Sammy Huston: then you Harry Esterbrook: No Salvatore Bartels: then you Sammy Huston: gotta Harry Esterbrook: no. Salvatore Bartels: have to shake it uh and all when it's when it's empty. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, Sammy Huston: You you gotta Harry Esterbrook: it's Sammy Huston: throw Harry Esterbrook: great. Sammy Huston: uh throw it through the room like twenty times an hour, Harry Esterbrook: No Sammy Huston: really. Harry Esterbrook: no no. No no, this is very sophisticated technology technology. When you Salvatore Bartels: You Harry Esterbrook: use Salvatore Bartels: asked Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: for Harry Esterbrook: your Salvatore Bartels: three Harry Esterbrook: remote Salvatore Bartels: d Harry Esterbrook: like once a day, or maybe even less i i Salvatore Bartels: No, Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: that's n that's not true. Uh, Sammy Huston: No. Salvatore Bartels: a watch is uh kinetic Harry Esterbrook: It Salvatore Bartels: because you walk Harry Esterbrook: We Salvatore Bartels: all Harry Esterbrook: can Salvatore Bartels: the time. Harry Esterbrook: make it yeah no. Becau be but a remote control gets why do they state that this technology Salvatore Bartels: Yes, Harry Esterbrook: can be Salvatore Bartels: solar Harry Esterbrook: used if Salvatore Bartels: cells Harry Esterbrook: it Salvatore Bartels: are also stated. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, m but a w uh uh n uh a calculator also works on r on Salvatore Bartels: Why Harry Esterbrook: solar Salvatore Bartels: don't Harry Esterbrook: cells. Salvatore Bartels: we use solar cells then? Harry Esterbrook: Because I think the d whole dynamic part, do you know, appeals to Sammy Huston qui uh thinking of our design philosophy, you know, with the rubber parts and uh sturdiness of the thing, and y when you move it around a lot, then people find the idea funny that when I move my Salvatore Bartels: That's Harry Esterbrook: remote Salvatore Bartels: true. Harry Esterbrook: control around Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: and Sammy Huston: it's funny for a week. I guess something like that, where you have to move it around very frequently, is demotivating. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, but you don't have to. Trust Sammy Huston. The idea of this technology is that you don't think about it, it just happens. Sammy Huston: No, I I don't move my uh my Harry Esterbrook: Okay, Salvatore Bartels: Oui. Sammy Huston: remote Harry Esterbrook: then we Sammy Huston: control Harry Esterbrook: d Okay, Sammy Huston: very Harry Esterbrook: well Sammy Huston: much, Harry Esterbrook: y we don't Sammy Huston: seriously. Harry Esterbrook: have to do it, but what that would just have a lack of key features, you know. You m have to put something on your box. You have to make people buy it and uh We can really can do the docking thing, uh it's not yeah, uh we can do it, but it's would be a Salvatore Bartels: You Harry Esterbrook: easy Salvatore Bartels: can Harry Esterbrook: way Salvatore Bartels: do Harry Esterbrook: out. Salvatore Bartels: it for fifty cents. Sammy Huston: Well, we've got more than fifty Cents. Salvatore Bartels: The c Harry Esterbrook: Okay, but Salvatore Bartels: The Harry Esterbrook: we Salvatore Bartels: case Harry Esterbrook: have to grou Salvatore Bartels: the Harry Esterbrook: to Salvatore Bartels: case Harry Esterbrook: agree upon Salvatore Bartels: alone Harry Esterbrook: something, Salvatore Bartels: is is Harry Esterbrook: because Salvatore Bartels: is Harry Esterbrook: uh Salvatore Bartels: uh Harry Esterbrook: we only have a minute left or so. Salvatore Bartels: the case alone for uh remote control is at least one Euro. Then we have one Euro thirty for the whole Harry Esterbrook: No Salvatore Bartels: docking Harry Esterbrook: no, Salvatore Bartels: station. Harry Esterbrook: it's not possible. Okay, w b we can s we can leave it on be well then then th it's this is then then our concept is ready. Peter Terrell: Cheap remote control. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, we make some extra profit of Sammy Huston: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: it. Sammy Huston: No, we won't, but that's Salvatore Bartels: But now Sammy Huston: um something else. No, this Peter Terrell: It Sammy Huston: not Peter Terrell: w it Sammy Huston: gonna Peter Terrell: won't Sammy Huston: sell. Peter Terrell: tell, but Harry Esterbrook: Huh, Sammy Huston: No. Harry Esterbrook: any ideas? Sammy Huston: Of course not. Peter Terrell: No, uh, n no Salvatore Bartels: Great. It's great. Peter Terrell: Yeah, we Salvatore Bartels: Our Peter Terrell: just Salvatore Bartels: remote Peter Terrell: have Salvatore Bartels: control. Peter Terrell: to go all what we did today again. You have to do it over. Sammy Huston: We come back tomorrow, okay? Peter Terrell: Yeah. Harry Esterbrook: No Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Harry Esterbrook: no uh there's Peter Terrell: the Harry Esterbrook: still there's still Salvatore Bartels: Seventy Harry Esterbrook: someth concept Salvatore Bartels: Euros. Harry Esterbrook: and something special left. I mean we're gonna it's gonna excel in Peter Terrell: No, Harry Esterbrook: in Peter Terrell: but Harry Esterbrook: on in Peter Terrell: no. Harry Esterbrook: the the range in the field of design and and uh looks and feel. That's what it's makes it special. Yeah, and I would li I would have liked a kinetic part as well, to give it some just to give it some extra special feature, and uh I know it will work, but uh it's it's an They're they're not putting technologies on this, but if it if it was impossible to to make it happen. Salvatore Bartels: Why not a hand dynamo then? Harry Esterbrook: Okay, well we leave it like this. Then it's c Peter Terrell: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: then we're yeah. Peter Terrell: yeah. Sammy Huston: We can't do anything else. Warning, finish meeting now. Salvatore Bartels: We're done. Harry Esterbrook: Okay, Salvatore Bartels: Is this it? Harry Esterbrook: project e uh well, Sammy Huston: Yeah, Harry Esterbrook: we were gonna Sammy Huston: sure. Harry Esterbrook: what look take Salvatore Bartels: Okay. Harry Esterbrook: a look at the last sheet. Sammy Huston: No, we can't. Harry Esterbrook: Yeah, we have to Yeah, it's Peter Terrell: No. Sammy Huston: Yes, yes. Salvatore Bartels: Yes. Sammy Huston: Celebration. I don't see why, but Salvatore Bartels: Where's the champagne? Sammy Huston: I think we gotta fill out another questionnaire, to be honest. Peter Terrell: Yeah? Salvatore Bartels: I don't uh hear a bell. Sammy Huston: No, not yet. Alright, Peter Terrell: We Sammy Huston: I'll Peter Terrell: can Sammy Huston: see Peter Terrell: do Sammy Huston: you Peter Terrell: it Sammy Huston: guys Peter Terrell: here Sammy Huston: in Peter Terrell: then. Sammy Huston: a minute. Salvatore Bartels: Bye. Sammy Huston: I Peter Terrell: Can Sammy Huston: don't Peter Terrell: we Sammy Huston: think Peter Terrell: can't Sammy Huston: so. Peter Terrell: we do it here? Sammy Huston: I don't know. I don't I don't think so. Salvatore Bartels: Uh-huh. Just fill that one in. Peter Terrell: Yeah, we're doing now. But it's. Oh, okay. Harry Esterbrook: Uh, I Peter Terrell: Nice. Harry Esterbrook: don't know.

Harry Esterbrook opened the meeting. Peter Terrell and industrial designer presented the prototype design. The remote has buttons for power, mute, teletext, volume and channel up/down, and nine numbered channel buttons. The group discussed what buttons would be needed to enter channels 10 and above. They discussed adapting the docking station so it could be used with other products but did not make a decision. The remote is plastic with different coloured rubber strips on the sides and rubber buttons. Sammy Huston led the product evaluation. The group were generally satisfied with the design but did not think the remote was technologically innovative. The overall score was 2.6. The group worked out the manufacturing costs. The group had problems figuring out the cost of the docking station and buttons, and did not know which kind of chip to use. They discussed using kinetic energy to make the remote more technologically innovative but decided against it. They eventually decided that they could not afford a docking station. They did not have time to evaluate the project process before the end of the meeting.

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Anthony Cole: I dunno. Throwing away my toothpick. Jonathan Chaplin: Hi there. Grant Giordano: Yo. Ow. Anthony Cole: 'Kay. Grant Giordano: Uh Anthony Cole: Nice user interface. Grant Giordano: Yeah. What the Uh Yeah well, ja well let's just start. Anthony Cole: 'Kay. Grant Giordano: I've uh made a presentation Anthony Cole: Right let's Grant Giordano: uh Anthony Cole: see it. Grant Giordano: but uh I'll open it on the Smartboard, so we can all see it. So it's in the project documents because that's what we can find here. Well. Very nice. Well this is called the the the kick-off meeting. So uh I'm Grant Giordano, so I had to fill it in, Anthony Cole: 'Kay. Grant Giordano: and uh hmm. Oh sorry. And an uh a nice agenda. Uh we'll do the opening and then uh we'll meet each other, what uh we already do, so, that's not uh very much trouble. I'll I'll show you the the tools we have here, so that we can all use them. Then uh we'll look at the project plan from uh Real Reaction. We'll discuss about our first ideas about the project, and then uh we'll close the meeting, and then we can uh individually uh do our things and then uh we'll get back here. So this the opening we'll uh We have to uh design a new television remote control. You have heard that uh already I think, so. Anthony Cole: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: Um we want it to be original, so a nice uh a nice new design. Uh trendy, it's also for young people, and we have to just uh make it uh modern. And uh friendly, so size does matter. And uh Well it has to be a have the the right uh the right buttons on the right place, that kin Timothy Alvarez: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: those kind of things. Other uh There happen to be uh three stages. functional, conceptual, and d detailed design. Um so every time we we'll do some individual work, get meeting, talk about it, uh and then go into the next phase. That's just it. Um We have uh these two Smartboards. Um well as I just showed, there's a project management folder, a project document folder on the desktop. It just works exactly the same as a computer. You just uh click on the on the folder and you open the everything you you put in it with your laptop. So you can uh make uh Words Excel, everything. Um and the w the r uh the rest uh also works the same so uh when you open a notepad you uh you just get your uh things, you can uh draw. This is a uh well a drawing board. you have a these different uh functions on the board. You can see them there. So you have a a nice pen, and it's works just like a bal ball pen. This is just a. I want to uh Oh yeah. Of course w doesn't work any more. Timothy Alvarez: Maybe you should try write on the on the big uh Does it? Yeah. Grant Giordano: Yes I Timothy Alvarez: It Grant Giordano: will Timothy Alvarez: works. Grant Giordano: eraser so. It's Timothy Alvarez: Wonderful. Grant Giordano: fantas fantastic. We can uh uh well you can save a file. So if uh we draw we have to save everything. Don't throw anything away. Timothy Alvarez: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: Uh just we can start a new one, and we just go on, and don't throw anything away. Just uh let them all uh stand here. We can delete, but we don't do that. Um you can here select a pen, you can draw anything you want. It's a bit uh childish you have to write. It's not as fast as you w you know it, but it does work sometimes. Well it's just like a normal uh paint. So it's gone. Timothy Alvarez: Alright, yep. Grant Giordano: Well we are designers, so we have to have a a more uh a Smartboard. So that's fantastic. Um well this uh speaks for itself. We going to try it. So um we all uh are going to uh draw a nice animal on this board, not my idea. Anthony Cole: Alright, your favourite animal? Grant Giordano: Yes our your favourite. So um I'm to going to have to draw a kangaroo, but I'm going d I'm not going to. I'm just uh going to uh well draw a nice uh beast w I dunno Anthony Cole: Grizzly Grant Giordano: what I'm going Anthony Cole: bear. Grant Giordano: to design. Oh um doesn't Timothy Alvarez: I hope Grant Giordano: oh. Timothy Alvarez: this was part of the Grant Giordano: Yeah, Timothy Alvarez: assignment Grant Giordano: 'kay. Timothy Alvarez: and not uh your uh Grant Giordano: Hmm? Timothy Alvarez: I hope this was part of the assignment and not uh your personal uh enjoyment. Grant Giordano: I just said it's Anthony Cole: Yeah. Grant Giordano: not my idea but I am Grant Giordano, and officially this is my idea. Timothy Alvarez: I I Grant Giordano: So Timothy Alvarez: I I understand. Anthony Cole: We're kinda Timothy Alvarez: Alright. Anthony Cole: losing time, though. Grant Giordano: what? Anthony Cole: We're losing time, Grant Giordano: Ah Anthony Cole: but Timothy Alvarez: so start Grant Giordano: the first the first meeting is just a bit uh loose, Anthony Cole: Alright. Grant Giordano: loosen up, a bit uh meeting each other well uh uh Timothy Alvarez: Yep Grant Giordano: nice yeah. Timothy Alvarez: yes. Grant Giordano: Sh I hope our Industrial Designer does this better because uh this is Timothy Alvarez: Don't Grant Giordano: uh Timothy Alvarez: count it Grant Giordano: No so a a few Anthony Cole: Do Grant Giordano: legs. Anthony Cole: we have to guess? A Grant Giordano: Yes yes guess. Anthony Cole: hippo? Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: I Grant Giordano: I should make it an hippo now. Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: think it's a mouse or a rat. Grant Giordano: No I don't think so. Timothy Alvarez: Oh. Oh I know it. Grant Giordano: Well what is it, huh? Timothy Alvarez: It's Anthony Cole: I Timothy Alvarez: a Anthony Cole: don't Timothy Alvarez: hedgehog. Anthony Cole: know how to call it. Grant Giordano: Yeah Anthony Cole: A hedgehog? Grant Giordano: difficult English word. I didn't knew it myself. Timothy Alvarez: Well I'm amazed uh about your uh drawing skills. Grant Giordano: Our characteristics sum it up. Well it's uh very uh painful those kind of thing. So we can uh just uh Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Grant Giordano: We're going back and now uh our Industrial Designer can Anthony Cole: Alright. Grant Giordano: uh draw its Timothy Alvarez: I Grant Giordano: uh Timothy Alvarez: am the Industrial Grant Giordano: most Timothy Alvarez: Designer. Grant Giordano: favourite animal. Huh. Timothy Alvarez: Chief, I am Timothy Alvarez. Grant Giordano: Oh uh but this uh marketing designer. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. I think It's pr it resembles the animal drawn by. Anthony Cole: It's. Grant Giordano: what kind of animal is that then? Timothy Alvarez: I think can I say it? Anthony Cole: Yeah sure. It's a rabbit. Well Looks very nice, right? Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: It looks amazing. Grant Giordano: No no no. What are you going to do? Jonathan Chaplin: We want to erase it. Grant Giordano: No no. No no save it and start a new uh save it Anthony Cole: Yes. Timothy Alvarez: These are very Grant Giordano: and start Timothy Alvarez: impor Grant Giordano: a new black uh doc a Timothy Alvarez: These Grant Giordano: blank Timothy Alvarez: are very Grant Giordano: document. Timothy Alvarez: important documents, of course, uh these drawings, Grant Giordano: Yeah well we have Timothy Alvarez: uh Anthony Cole: Yes Grant Giordano: to save Anthony Cole: uh Grant Giordano: everything so now Anthony Cole: right. Grant Giordano: um the next one uh Anthony Cole: You go man. Grant Giordano: and then save Jonathan Chaplin: Thanks. Grant Giordano: it and start an blank document. Yeah. There's also different colours and different uh well pen widths uh the line the the thickness thickness. So Anthony Cole: Alright. Grant Giordano: um well you should uh try it but uh Anthony Cole: I should have made mine a white rabbit. Grant Giordano: Well y y y you could have but uh. Timothy Alvarez: And he deliberately Grant Giordano: It Timothy Alvarez: draws Grant Giordano: speaks for Timothy Alvarez: a Grant Giordano: itself. Timothy Alvarez: animal we don't know the English word for. Grant Giordano: What the Timothy Alvarez: It looks like an uh Grant Giordano: uh just a duck. Timothy Alvarez: It looks like that beast from Sesame Street. Grant Giordano: Nice. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: Big bird. Grant Giordano: Is Anthony Cole: You're Grant Giordano: it Anthony Cole: standing Grant Giordano: a duck? Anthony Cole: in front Timothy Alvarez: It's Anthony Cole: of it, I Timothy Alvarez: it's Anthony Cole: can't see Timothy Alvarez: uh Grant Giordano: Is it a plane? Anthony Cole: it. Alright, thank you. Yeah it's a bird, but what kind of bird? Grant Giordano: It doesn't draw uh Timothy Alvarez: Do we have Grant Giordano: circles Timothy Alvarez: to uh Grant Giordano: uh that easy uh. Anthony Cole: You have to push harder. Grant Giordano: Yeah Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Grant Giordano: just a bit a bit childish, a bit. Timothy Alvarez: But we have uh Anthony Cole: Release Timothy Alvarez: do Anthony Cole: your anger. Timothy Alvarez: we have to name the specific species of the bird? Jonathan Chaplin: Uh Timothy Alvarez: No? Jonathan Chaplin: no I don't. It's just a bird. Timothy Alvarez: Well Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: wonderful. Grant Giordano: uh save the document and then uh And then a a new blank document for. uh will uh Jonathan Chaplin: Here Grant Giordano: choose Jonathan Chaplin: you go. Grant Giordano: a new colour and a new pen width so w Timothy Alvarez: Why Grant Giordano: we can Timothy Alvarez: do Grant Giordano: all Timothy Alvarez: I Grant Giordano: see Timothy Alvarez: have to Grant Giordano: it. Timothy Alvarez: do the difficult tasks? Uh Grant Giordano: No well first Timothy Alvarez: pen Grant Giordano: yeah. Timothy Alvarez: yeah that's. Grant Giordano: And then you go to format I think, Timothy Alvarez: Uh current Grant Giordano: and Timothy Alvarez: colour. Grant Giordano: current colour you choose a new colour. And Timothy Alvarez: I Grant Giordano: a Timothy Alvarez: like Grant Giordano: new Timothy Alvarez: uh Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Timothy Alvarez: oh they don't have pink. Oh b oh think this Grant Giordano: pen Timothy Alvarez: is uh Grant Giordano: width uh also format. It's not like in paint. Timothy Alvarez: Uh? Uh Grant Giordano: Line width. And you can choose Timothy Alvarez: Line Grant Giordano: a nice Timothy Alvarez: width. Grant Giordano: one. Jonathan Chaplin: Width. Grant Giordano: Width width. Timothy Alvarez: Uh Grant Giordano: With each other. Timothy Alvarez: fifteen. And Jonathan Chaplin: Hmm. Timothy Alvarez: I can draw? Grant Giordano: Yeah. So. Just Timothy Alvarez: Uh Grant Giordano: a wa that's the way we do it's quite easy. Anthony Cole: Hmm. Grant Giordano: Mm-hmm. Jonathan Chaplin: It's a pussy cat. Anthony Cole: It's a cat. Grant Giordano: Oh Pussy. Timothy Alvarez: Oh the line width is too thick, but oh Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: well. Grant Giordano: then you change it. And erase things. Timothy Alvarez: Uh. Grant Giordano: What? Anthony Cole: It's a pig. Timothy Alvarez: It smiles nicely. Grant Giordano: Super pig. Timothy Alvarez: Now I have to change the line width. Uh one. Grant Giordano: So Timothy Alvarez: These are whiskers, you know. Grant Giordano: Yeah yeah yeah Anthony Cole: Right. Grant Giordano: we know. Timothy Alvarez: Uh well I think it's obvious right now. Grant Giordano: Yes alright. It's a cat. Anthony Cole: No it looks great. Timothy Alvarez: Miaow. Well if this isn't obvious Grant Giordano: Well well um Anthony Cole: Just save it. Grant Giordano: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: I'll Grant Giordano: save Timothy Alvarez: save Grant Giordano: it Timothy Alvarez: it alright uh save. Grant Giordano: and start a new blank document. Timothy Alvarez: Uh yeah uh blank. Grant Giordano: Yep. So that's uh what we're going to use when we uh need it. Timothy Alvarez: Well Anthony Cole: Oh great. Timothy Alvarez: I feel comfortable Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: now. Thanks for Grant Giordano: it's Timothy Alvarez: this Grant Giordano: terrific, Timothy Alvarez: exercise. Grant Giordano: eh? Anthony Cole: It's good Timothy Alvarez: I feel Anthony Cole: for group spirit. Timothy Alvarez: totally at ease. Grant Giordano: Yeah Jonathan Chaplin: It Grant Giordano: that's it. Jonathan Chaplin: certainly is. Grant Giordano: We're one big happy family now. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah something like that. Grant Giordano: Well then uh the serious uh stuff. We're we want to sell it at twenty five Euros internationally um so um but we dunno what exactly th i it is in dollars, but uh twenty five Euros. Our profit aim is, worldwide, fifty million Euros. Timothy Alvarez: So Grant Giordano: So I didn't uh exactly uh calculate how much we have to sell. we want to keep it our costs at twelve and a half Euros so, keep uh that in mind when we uh talk about our uh materials an f and stuff, Anthony Cole: Right. Timothy Alvarez: Alright. Grant Giordano: and uh marketing uh research. Now then we all uh we can uh sit down and discuss uh what do we think about our current remote controls, first about design uh about uh aim in the market etcetera? Anthony Cole: Right. Grant Giordano: Well uh we c we can sit down uh because uh presentation can wait. We can uh take notes and uh Well who has uh some uh remarks about the current uh remote controls? Timothy Alvarez: Well Grant Giordano: Please? Timothy Alvarez: I I didn't have to prepare anything about uh Grant Giordano: No uh Timothy Alvarez: it's Grant Giordano: I Timothy Alvarez: not, Grant Giordano: did. Timothy Alvarez: it's it's not my task to uh talk about uh experience with current remote controls, but uh Grant Giordano: Well uh just w we're uh four uh if Anthony Cole: I think Grant Giordano: we if Anthony Cole: it's Grant Giordano: we would Anthony Cole: im Grant Giordano: just have one then Anthony Cole: it's important to uh look at uh the remote controls of our competitors. Grant Giordano: Yeah. Anthony Cole: Get the good points uh try to merge them into one universal remote control. Grant Giordano: Yeah yeah. Anthony Cole: On our corporate site I saw uh a new D_V_D_ player uh we're gonna produce. Grant Giordano: Yep. Anthony Cole: Maybe it's important Grant Giordano: That's alright. Anthony Cole: to make it compatible with the D_V_D_ player Grant Giordano: That would be a nice idea, yes. Anthony Cole: so you can uh use your television and your D_V_D_ player with the same uh remote Grant Giordano: Yep Anthony Cole: control. Grant Giordano: yep yep. Anthony Cole: Furthermore it's important to make it uh acceptable for the whole world, for different cultures, maybe, because we want to we want to well fifty million? Grant Giordano: Yes fifty Timothy Alvarez: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: million is our aim to Anthony Cole: Yeah Grant Giordano: a profit, Anthony Cole: yeah Grant Giordano: so. Anthony Cole: so a lot of people have to be able to use it. Timothy Alvarez: No but Anthony Cole: So Timothy Alvarez: uh the Jonathan Chaplin: Easy Timothy Alvarez: b Jonathan Chaplin: to Timothy Alvarez: the Jonathan Chaplin: learn. Timothy Alvarez: buttons have to Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: uh have to have uh international recognisable buttons and uh Anthony Cole: Yeah that's right. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: Yes. Timothy Alvarez: and numbers and uh that every culture in uh, yeah, people in every Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: country can recognise. Grant Giordano: I'll make uh notes and then uh maybe uh well I'll put it in the project uh folder when I'm done uh Anthony Cole: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: just now. Timothy Alvarez: Alright. Jonathan Chaplin: I also Grant Giordano: Well Jonathan Chaplin: think Anthony Cole: Right. Jonathan Chaplin: we should Grant Giordano: yeah? Jonathan Chaplin: not add too many buttons. Modern Grant Giordano: No Jonathan Chaplin: day uh remotes have Grant Giordano: that's right. Y Jonathan Chaplin: too Grant Giordano: y Jonathan Chaplin: much Grant Giordano: you Jonathan Chaplin: buttons Grant Giordano: don't use Jonathan Chaplin: I think. Grant Giordano: uh the half of them that's that's Jonathan Chaplin: Precisely. Grant Giordano: culture uh international. Anthony Cole: Maybe we could make one button to switch between D_V_D_ player and T_V_ Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Anthony Cole: and make the other buttons uh multi-functional or something. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: Yes. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah so Jonathan Chaplin: indeed. Timothy Alvarez: it doesn't uh become too complicated with too much buttons Anthony Cole: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: and Anthony Cole: right. Timothy Alvarez: uh Grant Giordano: Yep, and maybe we do uh we even have uh more than just a D_V_D_ player. Don't we have uh other uh Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: ou Jonathan Chaplin: we should make it compatible Timothy Alvarez: And stereo Grant Giordano: Uh. Jonathan Chaplin: perhaps with everything Timothy Alvarez: uh s Jonathan Chaplin: we use, Timothy Alvarez: uh Grant Giordano: We also Timothy Alvarez: audio Jonathan Chaplin: we Grant Giordano: uh Jonathan Chaplin: uh Grant Giordano: just Timothy Alvarez: installations. Jonathan Chaplin: we make? Grant Giordano: uh released a T_F_T_ uh Anthony Cole: Yeah so Grant Giordano: thing Anthony Cole: but Grant Giordano: I saw. Anthony Cole: th that's kind kind of standard T_ television Grant Giordano: Yeah. Anthony Cole: so Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Anthony Cole: it also works on that. Grant Giordano: Yep. Jonathan Chaplin: And I think the people who who will buy our uh remote already have some experience with remotes. So we can keep Timothy Alvarez: Most Jonathan Chaplin: that in Timothy Alvarez: people Jonathan Chaplin: mind. Timothy Alvarez: do, yeah. Grant Giordano: Well yeah. Timothy Alvarez: It doesn't it Grant Giordano: It doesn't Timothy Alvarez: doesn't Grant Giordano: have Timothy Alvarez: have to Grant Giordano: to Timothy Alvarez: be Grant Giordano: be, but Jonathan Chaplin: W Grant Giordano: we can. Jonathan Chaplin: well it's a n it's a new remote and you don't buy a remote if you don't have anything to uh Grant Giordano: Well Jonathan Chaplin: to control with it. Grant Giordano: except Anthony Cole: Yeah but Grant Giordano: if we deliver it together with Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Grant Giordano: our D_V_D_. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah alright, Anthony Cole: We need to Jonathan Chaplin: but Anthony Cole: to keep it consistent with other d uh Grant Giordano: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: Well. Grant Giordano: because we look at competitors and w if we pick up the good things about that and give it a nice design Timothy Alvarez: Hmm. Anthony Cole: Yeah but it's Timothy Alvarez: It Anthony Cole: it Timothy Alvarez: has to be Anthony Cole: has Timothy Alvarez: different Anthony Cole: to be Timothy Alvarez: and Anthony Cole: useable. Timothy Alvarez: familiar at the same time. Grant Giordano: Yes. Anthony Cole: Yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Yeah we could use Grant Giordano: Yep. Jonathan Chaplin: another form or shape or colour, Timothy Alvarez: yeah Jonathan Chaplin: that Timothy Alvarez: the shape Jonathan Chaplin: kind of Timothy Alvarez: will Jonathan Chaplin: things. Timothy Alvarez: will have to be recognised. I thought about uh like most uh remote controls uh are uh a long box shaped thing Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: you can make it uh triangle shaped, but that's Jonathan Chaplin: Well Timothy Alvarez: not Jonathan Chaplin: we Timothy Alvarez: uh Jonathan Chaplin: we Timothy Alvarez: very Jonathan Chaplin: could Grant Giordano: Oo Jonathan Chaplin: make Timothy Alvarez: recognisable. Jonathan Chaplin: more Anthony Cole: No. Jonathan Chaplin: more oval or something, and Timothy Alvarez: Oval? Jonathan Chaplin: and Grant Giordano: N we can Timothy Alvarez: I Grant Giordano: use Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: uh Jonathan Chaplin: or Grant Giordano: it Jonathan Chaplin: so Grant Giordano: as a as a game pad. So Timothy Alvarez: Mm. Jonathan Chaplin: Well yeah it's new. Anthony Cole: Not with two hands. Grant Giordano: one hand has the beer, so Anthony Cole: Yeah Grant Giordano: the other Anthony Cole: yeah Grant Giordano: hand Anthony Cole: yeah, right. Grant Giordano: uh Anthony Cole: No Jonathan Chaplin: but young people want something different and it is Grant Giordano: Well i Anthony Cole: Yeah but Grant Giordano: we already Anthony Cole: it's Grant Giordano: uh Anthony Cole: quite important Grant Giordano: one of Anthony Cole: that Grant Giordano: our Anthony Cole: it Grant Giordano: aims Anthony Cole: fits. Grant Giordano: is that it has to be original Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: and Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: Oh Grant Giordano: trendy Timothy Alvarez: but it ha it has to be Grant Giordano: so Timothy Alvarez: m yeah. But you still have to know it's a remote and not another Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: Well Jonathan Chaplin: alright. Grant Giordano: there has been done a lot of researches about remotes uh we have to we can imagine uh because it's a long time uh on the market. So Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Grant Giordano: the the form will have been uh tested out so Timothy Alvarez: Yeah so the long box uh shaped thing must be uh, yeah, useful Grant Giordano: Yes. Timothy Alvarez: or Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: else uh they would have been ano another Grant Giordano: for Anthony Cole personally Timothy Alvarez: shape. Grant Giordano: I have a a lot of remotes uh at home but those ones that have a a round ending and uh well uh just an uh square uh middle I don't like to use them. I have uh have to it has to fit my hands. Anthony Cole: Yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: When it falls over it and I just have and then the button Anthony Cole: It shouldn't Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Anthony Cole: be Grant Giordano: that Anthony Cole: boxy. Grant Giordano: I use most Timothy Alvarez: Yeah a lo Grant Giordano: has to be Timothy Alvarez: the Grant Giordano: here. Timothy Alvarez: long box shape yeah. You have to Grant Giordano: It f it fits Timothy Alvarez: use Anthony Cole: Nah Grant Giordano: your hands Timothy Alvarez: one hand. Grant Giordano: and then you just push the button that you use most Anthony Cole: I don't Grant Giordano: with Anthony Cole: agree with the long box Grant Giordano: thumb. Anthony Cole: uh shape it Timothy Alvarez: Why not? Anthony Cole: it has to be custom made for the hand. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah it doesn't fit. Grant Giordano: Tho Anthony Cole: Yeah. Grant Giordano: tho those new D_V_D_ Timothy Alvarez: But Grant Giordano: players Timothy Alvarez: it Grant Giordano: on Timothy Alvarez: does Grant Giordano: the Timothy Alvarez: fit Grant Giordano: market Timothy Alvarez: in the hand if Grant Giordano: do Timothy Alvarez: you hold Grant Giordano: have Timothy Alvarez: it like Grant Giordano: those. Timothy Alvarez: this, and you Anthony Cole: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: can Anthony Cole: but Timothy Alvarez: make Anthony Cole: if Timothy Alvarez: it another Anthony Cole: you shape Timothy Alvarez: shape, but Anthony Cole: it Timothy Alvarez: then you have Jonathan Chaplin: No if y Anthony Cole: If Jonathan Chaplin: if you look at new Phillips uh D_V_D_ with their uh remotes Grant Giordano: D_V_D_ players. Yes. Jonathan Chaplin: pl players they they are the new remotes aren't box shaped. Timothy Alvarez: W Jonathan Chaplin: They're Timothy Alvarez: no Jonathan Chaplin: all Timothy Alvarez: w Anthony Cole: No Jonathan Chaplin: um Timothy Alvarez: what else? I di Anthony Cole: that's Jonathan Chaplin: Well Anthony Cole: ol old fashioned. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah well Anthony Cole: I Timothy Alvarez: but Anthony Cole: can Timothy Alvarez: uh Anthony Cole: imagine Timothy Alvarez: what Jonathan Chaplin: Yes uh Timothy Alvarez: what Anthony Cole: that us Timothy Alvarez: what do you suggest then? Jonathan Chaplin: Well Anthony Cole: Well Jonathan Chaplin: most of of them are are somewhat thicker at the end, and Anthony Cole: Yeah right. Jonathan Chaplin: get um yeah thinner Anthony Cole: It Jonathan Chaplin: towards Anthony Cole: fits Jonathan Chaplin: the Anthony Cole: in your Jonathan Chaplin: uh Anthony Cole: palms. Jonathan Chaplin: the other end. Timothy Alvarez: Hmm. Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Timothy Alvarez: Well but it's still then uh the the long box, uh but then with some Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah it Timothy Alvarez: uh round uh Anthony Cole: Hmm? Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: round Grant Giordano: A Timothy Alvarez: forms Anthony Cole: Um. Timothy Alvarez: in it to fit Grant Giordano: it Timothy Alvarez: your Grant Giordano: h Timothy Alvarez: hand, Grant Giordano: it has Timothy Alvarez: but it's Grant Giordano: it it Timothy Alvarez: it's Grant Giordano: has Timothy Alvarez: still Grant Giordano: a that's tha th th shape that it fits your hand. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah yeah al alright but Grant Giordano: That's Timothy Alvarez: but it's still it's still sort of box, yeah. It it has Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: round forms Jonathan Chaplin: yea Timothy Alvarez: but it in the end it's Anthony Cole: Well Timothy Alvarez: still the box, so that's what I mean. Anthony Cole: Yeah but it has it has to fit your hand. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah yeah I Anthony Cole: It Timothy Alvarez: understand, Anthony Cole: shouldn't Timothy Alvarez: but Anthony Cole: be too boxy, you know. Timothy Alvarez: no no Anthony Cole: It's Jonathan Chaplin: Hmm. Timothy Alvarez: I don't mean an entire box like completely Anthony Cole: No no no. Timothy Alvarez: square but a also with round edges of course, but Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: in in in at the end it's still this long Anthony Cole: Yeah it should be Timothy Alvarez: box shape with convenient uh round uh shapes uh Anthony Cole: Right maybe Timothy Alvarez: to Anthony Cole: something Timothy Alvarez: fit. Anthony Cole: like this or Timothy Alvarez: Yeah Anthony Cole: and then Timothy Alvarez: yes Anthony Cole: a Timothy Alvarez: I Anthony Cole: button Timothy Alvarez: thought Anthony Cole: here Timothy Alvarez: about Anthony Cole: to Timothy Alvarez: something Anthony Cole: switch Timothy Alvarez: like Anthony Cole: between Timothy Alvarez: that. Anthony Cole: different systems like D_V_D_ Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Anthony Cole: player and so you can Timothy Alvarez: A big Anthony Cole: I've Timothy Alvarez: recognisable button on top or something. Anthony Cole: Yeah right, and I do think we have to keep this kind of idea Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Anthony Cole: with the with the numbers and Grant Giordano: We have five minutes left. So Timothy Alvarez: The Anthony Cole: Right. Timothy Alvarez: buttons should uh also be not too small, not too big, of course, and Grant Giordano: Yes Timothy Alvarez: uh Grant Giordano: uh that's Timothy Alvarez: n uh uh not too Grant Giordano: yep. Timothy Alvarez: close Anthony Cole: But it Timothy Alvarez: uh Anthony Cole: should be Timothy Alvarez: together. Anthony Cole: possible to to um make it ap apparent that there are two functions for every button. Grant Giordano: Yep. Anthony Cole: So Timothy Alvarez: Uh-huh. Anthony Cole: there has to be some space between the buttons. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah of course Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: uh to uh to uh to have icons to explain the different Anthony Cole: Yeah right Timothy Alvarez: functions. Anthony Cole: right, Timothy Alvarez: Yeah. Anthony Cole: and maybe we should use colours. Timothy Alvarez: Colours, Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: maybe we can um just like on cell phones those um well Anthony Cole: Yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: you can you can put on on them, Grant Giordano: Ha. Jonathan Chaplin: and Anthony Cole: That's Jonathan Chaplin: so Anthony Cole: kinda Jonathan Chaplin: you can Anthony Cole: trendy. Jonathan Chaplin: customise your uh your own remote with different colours or or special Anthony Cole: Yeah right. Jonathan Chaplin: paint jobs I dunno Grant Giordano: Sound Jonathan Chaplin: but Grant Giordano: nice. Yes. Timothy Alvarez: I think we have to talk also about uh the the materials for um. Jonathan Chaplin: Well Grant Giordano: Well it's just uh about our first ideas now so I think individually we'll have to uh come up with ideas for the next meeting about Anthony Cole: Right. Grant Giordano: these materials Anthony Cole: But Grant Giordano: and markets etcetera. Timothy Alvarez: Already Grant Giordano: Yes? Anthony Cole: I think Timothy Alvarez: thought Anthony Cole: it's Timothy Alvarez: about Anthony Cole: uh Timothy Alvarez: something tha Anthony Cole: it's important to uh notate all the the decisions that Grant Giordano: Yes. Anthony Cole: we make, so we Grant Giordano: Well thirty minutes we have. Timothy Alvarez: Mm-hmm. Grant Giordano: So um This is about uh what we are going to uh do uh. You'll get specific instructions when you're back in your Anthony Cole: Yeah. Grant Giordano: room so uh it's uh logical uh. I think. Anthony Cole: No problem. Grant Giordano: Oh and uh that's uh that's all. So we'll just get a notice that the the meeting is uh over. Timothy Alvarez: Yeah now we Grant Giordano: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: can still talk about the material, Grant Giordano: yes Timothy Alvarez: we Grant Giordano: say. Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Timothy Alvarez: have some some minutes left uh I w wrote down uh that the case should be plastic of course, hard plastic, Anthony Cole: Yeah. Yeah it shouldn't be too heavy. Timothy Alvarez: No n Grant Giordano: Well Timothy Alvarez: n Grant Giordano: I have had remotes that um they had uh the function of the buttons was about uh uh a layer over the buttons and when I've had use it much it was gone. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Anthony Cole: Yeah Jonathan Chaplin: that's Anthony Cole: yeah Grant Giordano: So Jonathan Chaplin: bad, Grant Giordano: it Anthony Cole: yeah. Grant Giordano: has Jonathan Chaplin: yeah. Grant Giordano: to be made in the buttons I think. It has to uh not Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: be Jonathan Chaplin: that's Grant Giordano: loose. Jonathan Chaplin: important. Timothy Alvarez: Mm. Alright. And of course there are several electrical cables in it to uh Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: to connect things uh Grant Giordano: Is there an a Timothy Alvarez: to Grant Giordano: universal Timothy Alvarez: each other. Grant Giordano: uh universal way of um transmitting from the remote to the television so it's all about uh Anthony Cole: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: I Anthony Cole: it's Timothy Alvarez: think Anthony Cole: univ Timothy Alvarez: so. Anthony Cole: yeah Timothy Alvarez: It's Anthony Cole: yeah Timothy Alvarez: a Anthony Cole: yeah. Grant Giordano: It's not that Timothy Alvarez: a Grant Giordano: in Timothy Alvarez: common Grant Giordano: China Timothy Alvarez: stan Grant Giordano: it's Timothy Alvarez: standard Grant Giordano: different? Timothy Alvarez: way Anthony Cole: Yep. Timothy Alvarez: infrared beams an infrared beam Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: I think. Grant Giordano: But y you can have uh of Anthony Cole: And you can Grant Giordano: course Anthony Cole: use Grant Giordano: different between D_V_D_s and televisions Timothy Alvarez: It it's Grant Giordano: and between Timothy Alvarez: a we we make an a universal remote Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: so it ha has to work with uh all Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: kinds of brands Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: and Jonathan Chaplin: But Timothy Alvarez: things. Jonathan Chaplin: our T_V_s are mostly made in China and that sort of country, so Grant Giordano: Probably yes. China rules. Timothy Alvarez: And have well yeah I've wrote something down about how it works. The user presses a button and with an infrared beam Anthony Cole: But Timothy Alvarez: it signals the television Anthony Cole: are Timothy Alvarez: set accordingly, but that's pretty obvious, I think. Anthony Cole: Are we going w uh with the front uh fronts uh idea? Grant Giordano: Well I think uh w we can Anthony Cole: I Grant Giordano: look Anthony Cole: think Grant Giordano: into that in the Anthony Cole: we Grant Giordano: in Anthony Cole: should Grant Giordano: the next Anthony Cole: make Grant Giordano: uh Anthony Cole: it universal Grant Giordano: thirty minutes. Yeah. Anthony Cole: and you can always use a front front on it, you know? You can use it just plain Grant Giordano: Yes. Anthony Cole: but you can Grant Giordano: Well j Anthony Cole: To make it Grant Giordano: just Anthony Cole: more trendy. Grant Giordano: y you get a n a normal front with it, but you Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: can change them Anthony Cole: Right. Grant Giordano: uh when Jonathan Chaplin: Yes. Grant Giordano: you buy the Anthony Cole: Right. Jonathan Chaplin: Yes. Grant Giordano: And we should uh dispatch those kind of fronts fronts Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Grant Giordano: a a around the world so Jonathan Chaplin: Well you Grant Giordano: uh Jonathan Chaplin: can make Anthony Cole: Yeah. Jonathan Chaplin: profit with them, and it's a way to make them trendy. Grant Giordano: Well th those fifty million don't uh don't se sells itself so we have to uh make uh some extra effort like fronts Timothy Alvarez: Well Grant Giordano: uh. Anthony Cole: Yeah Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Anthony Cole: right. Timothy Alvarez: but Jonathan Chaplin: alright. Timothy Alvarez: th but the standard front will be uh just grey or something Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: uh b a simple Grant Giordano: Yes. Jonathan Chaplin: normal. Timothy Alvarez: colour not Grant Giordano: Yeah Timothy Alvarez: not very flashy. Jonathan Chaplin: No Grant Giordano: well it has Jonathan Chaplin: a colour Grant Giordano: to Jonathan Chaplin: everyone Grant Giordano: it h it Jonathan Chaplin: accepts. Grant Giordano: has to fit the the te television and D_V_D_ set we are going to sell, so if they are Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Grant Giordano: uh black Timothy Alvarez: Pink television Grant Giordano: and black Timothy Alvarez: sets Grant Giordano: black Jonathan Chaplin: Mm. Grant Giordano: and silver Timothy Alvarez: pink Grant Giordano: we'll Timothy Alvarez: remote, Anthony Cole: Yeah Grant Giordano: make them Anthony Cole: yeah Grant Giordano: black Anthony Cole: yeah. Grant Giordano: and silver Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: so. Jonathan Chaplin: standard. Anthony Cole: But people of often don't like bright colours or something. We have to make it grey or s or black. Jonathan Chaplin: Well young people Anthony Cole: Yeah but Jonathan Chaplin: s Anthony Cole: then Jonathan Chaplin: li Anthony Cole: you can use a a front. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah yeah, yeah. Timothy Alvarez: Alright. Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: I must not forget my pen the next Grant Giordano: Well if Timothy Alvarez: time. Grant Giordano: if you yeah. If you have a a a television room for little children and you make a if if you buy a a pink front they'll they'll love it. Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Anthony Cole: Yeah Grant Giordano: I Anthony Cole: that's Grant Giordano: think. Anthony Cole: right. Yeah Grant Giordano: But that's uh marketing Anthony Cole: or a t Grant Giordano: uh research Anthony Cole: Teletubby Grant Giordano: you Anthony Cole: front. Grant Giordano: can uh you can ask Anthony Cole: Yeah Grant Giordano: uh. Anthony Cole: yeah yeah. I will investigate. Grant Giordano: Yes. Well our user interface you can uh maybe uh I don't know what your specific instructions will be, but uh probably about uh the precision of the buttons and and those kind of things and what buttons will have to be on the uh remote. And you will look into the technical design and um form, I think. Timothy Alvarez: Mm yeah Grant Giordano: Or something Timothy Alvarez: also the Grant Giordano: like Timothy Alvarez: the Grant Giordano: that. Timothy Alvarez: look and feel uh of the Grant Giordano: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: the remote's also my task, yeah. Grant Giordano: Yeah. Anthony Cole: Right. Jonathan Chaplin: What's the uh url or the website Timothy Alvarez: Yeah Jonathan Chaplin: 'cause Timothy Alvarez: I uh Jonathan Chaplin: I didn't Timothy Alvarez: w was wondering that too. Y Grant Giordano: Euro? Jonathan Chaplin: get Timothy Alvarez: you Anthony Cole: It's Timothy Alvarez: went to the company website. Grant Giordano: Well Anthony Cole: Yeah yeah Grant Giordano: it Anthony Cole: yeah Grant Giordano: it Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah. Grant Giordano: it's Anthony Cole: just if Grant Giordano: if Anthony Cole: you start Grant Giordano: you uh Anthony Cole: up your Internet Timothy Alvarez: It's Anthony Cole: Explorer Timothy Alvarez: the the Jonathan Chaplin: Oh Timothy Alvarez: the start Jonathan Chaplin: oh right Timothy Alvarez: uh starting Jonathan Chaplin: oh Timothy Alvarez: page Anthony Cole: Yeah. Timothy Alvarez: uh Jonathan Chaplin: well I didn't uh use it. Grant Giordano: Finish meeting now. Oh alright. Well uh we're going to back uh Jonathan Chaplin: Yes. Grant Giordano: back into our rooms so Anthony Cole: Well that's great. Jonathan Chaplin: Next meeting is in Grant Giordano: In thirty Anthony Cole: Thirty Grant Giordano: minutes, Anthony Cole: minutes. Jonathan Chaplin: Thirty Grant Giordano: but uh Jonathan Chaplin: minutes. Grant Giordano: I think it will be you will be warned uh through Jonathan Chaplin: Yeah Grant Giordano: your laptop Jonathan Chaplin: alright it's Grant Giordano: uh Jonathan Chaplin: it's handy to Grant Giordano: to get Jonathan Chaplin: know Grant Giordano: over here. I'll have to restore Timothy Alvarez: Very handy Grant Giordano: my uh Timothy Alvarez: to know. Grant Giordano: my desktop uh because Anthony Cole: It's Grant Giordano: uh Anthony Cole: totally broken. Grant Giordano: it's it's the half of the normal size. Timothy Alvarez: Right see you in half Grant Giordano: Oh Jonathan Chaplin: Oh. Timothy Alvarez: an hour Grant Giordano: right, Timothy Alvarez: then. Grant Giordano: oh. Jonathan Chaplin: Goodbye. Timothy Alvarez: W Grant Giordano: Ma Anthony Cole: Oh Jonathan Chaplin: S. Grant Giordano: W that was a nice meeting. Timothy Alvarez: Right uh see you in thirty Grant Giordano: Yeah, Timothy Alvarez: minutes then. Grant Giordano: see you.

After introducing the remote control objective, Grant Giordano demonstrated the SmartBoard technology they would be using. They tested it by drawing animals. Grant Giordano informed the group of the budget, before beginning the discussion of current remotes and initial ideas. They considered taking the best of their competitors designs and making a multifunction remote. It needs to be useable internationally, with few buttons. The considered options for the shape of the remote control, imagining how it would fit in the hand. The group ended the discussion by touching very briefly on some materials issues, and discussed remote covers.

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Arthur Orenstein: Great man. Who starts? David Finley: Well I'll uh start just with another presentation, Arthur Orenstein: Alright, David Finley: then Arthur Orenstein: great. David Finley: we can uh look at th at the agenda uh for this meeting. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. David Finley: Okay. I've put some uh new things in the in the map. Arthur Orenstein: Mm-hmm. David Finley: Uh oh. This is it. I don't know the shortcut, so Ah F_ five. Well our functional design meeting, that's the stage we're in. Michael Nagase: Mm. David Finley: And you also ha all three of you have uh prepared something about it. Arthur Orenstein: Yes. David Finley: Well in uh just have a look at the notes from the previous meeting, what we uh thought we had dec decided. But uh Uh then we'll uh look at uh the three uh presentations uh from you. Arthur Orenstein: 'Kay. David Finley: I think you have prepared uh all Michael Nagase: Well, David Finley: three Michael Nagase: yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: uh? Um we'll look at th the new project requirements we uh I dunno. Y you also have uh received that mail, the new project requirements from our bosses? Michael Nagase: No. Arthur Orenstein: No. David Finley: Oh I've received a mail Arthur Orenstein: You're the David Finley: with Arthur Orenstein: only one. David Finley: uh some additional requirements, Michael Nagase: Oh Arthur Orenstein: Alright. David Finley: and I'll have a look if Well I think we should show them before your presentations, because it's not really uh smart uh to uh to include some things uh we can't, because of the new requirements. Arthur Orenstein: 'Kay. David Finley: Well um then we can make some decisions about our remote control functions. We have to deb we have to decide it in this meeting what our function will be. And then uh we can discuss uh some more closely. Michael Nagase: We have David Finley: Uh Michael Nagase: forty minutes for this uh discussion? David Finley: Uh yeah, I think so. Michael Nagase: Alright. David Finley: Well uh the closing uh we'll not uh look at it yet. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. David Finley: Um now I'll look at show this board. Um Well uh notes, first meeting. Now. I gave a disc a a presentation. Uh we familiarised ourself with the boards and then we discussed some first ideas. So we said that uh we have to merge the strong points from our uh competitors, Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: and uh look at their uh remote controls. We should make it uh compatible with our new D_V_D_ and other releases we have, our technical releases. Michael Nagase: Huh? David Finley: Uh not too many one buttons. One recognisable button in the middle, where you do the most important functions with. And um well they can have two functions, because uh you have a D_V_D_ and a television. Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: Um the design has to fit the hand, be original, but also be familiar. It's uh one of our ideas. Yeah well that wa It's just thirty minutes ago, so it's not quite uh Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm, now it's right. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: But well I have to do it. The materials uh well should be hard plastic with rubber from, and uh well the labelling of the buttons should be indestructible. It should Michael Nagase: It's David Finley: be Michael Nagase: meant David Finley: uh recognisable Michael Nagase: to be easily David Finley: at Michael Nagase: wiped David Finley: all Michael Nagase: out, David Finley: times. Michael Nagase: yeah. Joshua Coleman: Mm. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: Okay. David Finley: Well fronts were to be just like mobile telephones. And uh the technical aspects um And also labelling of the buttons, the functions should be universal standards. Well that's just uh some ideas from the first meeting. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. David Finley: It's quite logical al all of it. Um now the new project requirements, I'll just show them. I got this mail from uh our bosses. Well, teletext goes out. Joshua Coleman: Oh. David Finley: We will not use teletext. Arthur Orenstein: Okay. David Finley: Maybe Michael Nagase: I I David Finley: a Michael Nagase: disagree, David Finley: new sort Michael Nagase: but David Finley: of thing, Michael Nagase: uh it's David Finley: but Michael Nagase: not David Finley: n Michael Nagase: uh t David Finley: but not teletext. Michael Nagase: it's not my place to David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: disagree I guess. David Finley: the second is a bit sh pity because we just said Joshua Coleman: Oh. David Finley: we wanted to d include the D_V_D_ and they don't want it, because Arthur Orenstein: Alright. David Finley: of our time we have for this project. Michael Nagase: Oh, alright. Joshua Coleman: Oh that's a shame. David Finley: So that's a shame, because uh especially for the third requirement we want to reach people under the thirty years. Because uh we don't have those customers a lot at th at this point. Um well it's a bit pity because it's just those people want to have uh one remote control for all those technical devices they Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: can uh Arthur Orenstein: But let's David Finley: reach Arthur Orenstein: forget David Finley: it. Arthur Orenstein: about it. It's just time-consuming, David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: so we uh have to go David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: on. David Finley: and uh our corporate image should stay rec recognisable in our products. So uh we have to uh use uh maybe a slogan, maybe a colour, and um Yeah well uh on our remote controls the design has to be uh, well as we already said a actually, uh familiar. Arthur Orenstein: Yes. David Finley: Uh not only just uh the shape but also our company. Michael Nagase: Yeah, we are a real fashionable company. I read uh I read it David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Michael Nagase: on the David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Mm. Michael Nagase: I didn't know what company we were, but we uh especially trendy uh David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: trendy trendy stuff. So it David Finley: Okay. Michael Nagase: has to be uh a modern design. That's important to know, uh when you design a thing of course. David Finley: Yes. I I uh noted uh our uh slogan that we have, our company. It's uh we mm put the fashion in electronics. Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: So maybe that's a slogan we can put uh somewhere on our remote control or something. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: Alright then um we're going to uh have Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: three presentations. You want to start? Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. I think I have to start. David Finley: Oh you have to start? I didn't see anything about uh Arthur Orenstein: Oh no, David Finley: who had to Michael Nagase: The Arthur Orenstein: no David Finley: start. Michael Nagase: order? Arthur Orenstein: problem. Michael Nagase: No. David Finley: Well Joshua Coleman: Mm. David Finley: s Arthur Orenstein: I David Finley: then start. Arthur Orenstein: just have to uh to think which file's mine, 'cause I was uh bit in a hurry. David Finley: Okay. Well uh Arthur Orenstein: I think it's this one. But I'm not sure. David Finley: You Arthur Orenstein: Hmm? David Finley: already uh opened uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: PowerPoint. Arthur Orenstein: S Right. Yes. This is it. David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Well, I'm going to tell you something about functional requirements. David Finley: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: Um to start with these points. Uh next sheet? Um at first I tell you something about what people dislike about the current uh controls, because it's uh a smart thing to exclude those things. Uh, furthermore it's very important what they do like and what they do use. Um then I tell something about um the most important issues. So we have to focus on those three thing three things. And in the end I'll um show you our target audience or our target product users, customers. Well, um the first findings are that people um think most controls are very kind of ug ugly. That's seventy five per cent of the current users. They don't like it, so we might think about fronts in that section. Um They also say, that's about uh I thought it was fifty per cent, uh that more money will be spent on uh better looking controls. So it's very important that you design a a nice looking control. Um the current user uses his machine just about well all of the time for a few functions. Uh, almost every user uses it d the the control for just ten per cent of its capacity. So it's really important to make the the buttons for the common uh tasks kind of big or kind of uh flashy. Furthermore, it's uh seventy five per cent of the users uh zaps a lot. Thus it might be uh might be smart to make a a big uh zapping button or something in the middle, so you can reach it with your thumb. Michael Nagase: You can Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: zap away. David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: yeah right. Right. A lot of losers um users lose their controls in their in their living room. So it might be sensible to make some kind of a button on your television, that's your um your control beeps or something, that you can find Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: this very easily. I dunno, maybe that's David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: an idea. 'Cause it's Michael Nagase: Oh. Arthur Orenstein: uh a big I think fifty per cent of the users loses his its control, Michael Nagase: Oh? David Finley: It should Arthur Orenstein: within the David Finley: actually Arthur Orenstein: same room. David Finley: uh It Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: should actually be loose from the television, because it can also be used for other televisions. So if you deliver a small uh click-on device that you can put on your television, that bleeps to your remote control, Arthur Orenstein: Yeah David Finley: everyone Arthur Orenstein: but what David Finley: can Arthur Orenstein: if David Finley: use Arthur Orenstein: you lose David Finley: it. Arthur Orenstein: your click-on device? David Finley: No you can click it on your television. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah but if someone d somebody else uses it in ano other room or something? David Finley: Yeah in another room, yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Nee David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: but it it specifically David Finley: yes. Arthur Orenstein: says it's uh the the control is lost in the same room. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: So Well a beeping David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: device would David Finley: we'll Arthur Orenstein: be David Finley: have a look at it, yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Uh furthermore the learning time is a problem. Uh thirty four thirty four per cent um thinks it's it's too uh too difficult to learn. So the the learning curve should be very short uh for the dumbest people should be able to use it. Michael Nagase: I think our uh user uh expert should also consider manual a manual for the remote, of course. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah Michael Nagase: Uh Arthur Orenstein: but people don't read manuals. Michael Nagase: I didn't read it? Oh, Arthur Orenstein: No. Joshua Coleman: No. Michael Nagase: alright. users to uh add one? Do you think? Joshua Coleman: I don't think Arthur Orenstein: I think you should put more time in the in the design of uh Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: pick up and use, Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Joshua Coleman: Yes Arthur Orenstein: than Joshua Coleman: you should Arthur Orenstein: a manual. Joshua Coleman: You should Michael Nagase: Yeah alright. David Finley: Yep. Joshua Coleman: could take Michael Nagase: Because Joshua Coleman: a look at Michael Nagase: they don't Joshua Coleman: it Michael Nagase: use Joshua Coleman: and Michael Nagase: it? Joshua Coleman: and Michael Nagase: Alright. Joshua Coleman: and know how it how it's supposed to work. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Right. David Finley: but it c Arthur Orenstein: And David Finley: can Arthur Orenstein: it should David Finley: be very Arthur Orenstein: be consistent David Finley: short. Joshua Coleman: Yeah but Arthur Orenstein: with consistent Joshua Coleman: nobody reads Arthur Orenstein: with older Joshua Coleman: a manual Arthur Orenstein: remotes. Joshua Coleman: about a remote control, I think. David Finley: Yes okay. Michael Nagase: Well maybe for Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Michael Nagase: the If you don't recognise a button who d who d who do I call uh wh Joshua Coleman: Yeah right. Michael Nagase: when I don't Joshua Coleman: It sh it Michael Nagase: know Joshua Coleman: should Michael Nagase: it? Joshua Coleman: be there, the manual. But but not to how the remote. Only Arthur Orenstein: And we don't have much time. So it's better to uh put our attention to the the design. So you can pick up and use it, than David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: I David Finley: we Arthur Orenstein: think. David Finley: are a design Joshua Coleman: Hmm. David Finley: team, we can say to some uh writer uh make a manual Arthur Orenstein: Yeah David Finley: point. Arthur Orenstein: right, Michael Nagase: Isn't it Arthur Orenstein: right. Michael Nagase: part of David Finley: So Michael Nagase: the of the u No. No. David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: Never mind. David Finley: we'll have a look. Arthur Orenstein: Next David Finley: Um Arthur Orenstein: point. David Finley: yes? Arthur Orenstein: Um R_S_I_. Well that's about twenty per cent I thought. But uh the designer should uh take it uh should uh Wie zeg Michael Nagase: Consider Arthur Orenstein: ik dat? Michael Nagase: the m Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, consider the consequences of using your remote. It Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: should be a good in your hand. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. David Finley: Yep. Arthur Orenstein: Right, this is the most important part. Um, we're Like the requirements said, we're gonna specify of we're gonna target a younger audience. Um, that's about sixty per cent of the market, so it's uh quite important. Um research shows that they like to have a little L_C_D_ screen on their on their uh zapping uh device. Uh I David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: thought it was the age between sixteen and twenty, ninety nine per cent of uh the people like that. So it's very important we should definitely have that in our uh designs. David Finley: Well with twelve Euro fifty as production cost, we can't Michael Nagase: It's David Finley: uh Michael Nagase: going David Finley: afford Michael Nagase: to be expensive. David Finley: an Joshua Coleman: No. David Finley: L_C_D_ Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah but they think it's really important. So if David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: we want to s If we have a big If we make lots of uh of the stuff, maybe we can uh buy it very cheap, I dunno. We have to uh Michael Nagase: Well we'll David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: uh consider it uh. David Finley: Yeah well uh it's Michael Nagase: We'll David Finley: your Michael Nagase: think abo David Finley: your task Michael Nagase: we'll think David Finley: to uh look into the costs uh of Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, David Finley: those uh Arthur Orenstein: I don't know. I don't have any information on David Finley: Nigh Arthur Orenstein: that. So Michael Nagase: No, we'll David Finley: I Michael Nagase: look David Finley: know. Michael Nagase: we'll look into that later. Arthur Orenstein: Right. Michael Nagase: Alright? Arthur Orenstein: And uh another thing is uh speech uh recognition. They also like that, but research is very uh costly. Joshua Coleman: I Arthur Orenstein: So Joshua Coleman: think that's uh difficult to realise also. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, but it it might be important for Michael Nagase: We Arthur Orenstein: the sale. Michael Nagase: have very demanding clients. David Finley: It's not yet a standard uh development uh those Joshua Coleman: No and we have David Finley: so Joshua Coleman: customers in multiple David Finley: We Arthur Orenstein: think David Finley: sh Joshua Coleman: uh Arthur Orenstein: L_C_D_ is Joshua Coleman: countries Arthur Orenstein: more Joshua Coleman: I think. Arthur Orenstein: reachable than the speech David Finley: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: recognition. David Finley: absolutely. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: So we might consider L_C_D_ screens. Michael Nagase: Yeah, yeah, alright. Well Joshua Coleman: No. Michael Nagase: we'll consider both and and see what uh what what we can find, I think. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. David Finley: Yep. Michael Nagase: We don't rule them out uh yet. David Finley: 'Kay. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Um, I think that's it. Um David Finley: Alright. Arthur Orenstein: I think it is sensible to u uh to take this take these points into the notes. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: So you can Right. David Finley: Well you I c I can uh still see your presentation. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Right. David Finley: It's in the Well uh next um I dunno who is next. You uh got uh Michael Nagase: Shall I give Joshua Coleman: Oh Michael Nagase: a Joshua Coleman: you Michael Nagase: technical Joshua Coleman: go. Michael Nagase: talk? David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: Alright. David Finley: Well go ahead. Michael Nagase: Well uh it is my task to uh explain uh or to point out a working design. David Finley: Yip. Michael Nagase: We have that here. Okay, how do you enlarge it, so that David Finley: F_ Michael Nagase: you can David Finley: five. Michael Nagase: have the F_ F_ five. David Finley: F_ five. Michael Nagase: Yep. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Michael Nagase: Well, the working design, that's my uh Arthur Orenstein: Next button. Michael Nagase: Well alright uh, you know who I am and what I do. So uh we have this. It's a bit uh unclear because I wanted to copy paste something. It Arthur Orenstein: Oh Michael Nagase: was Arthur Orenstein: right. Michael Nagase: originally in black and white but it became black and Arthur Orenstein: Purple. Michael Nagase: purple. But I think you can read it. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, yeah, Michael Nagase: Um Arthur Orenstein: yeah. A bit. Michael Nagase: well um I think it's important uh for you to realise the basic function of a remote control. Uh well you can see uh Arthur Orenstein: Maybe you can select it. So it uh inverts. Michael Nagase: And I then can select I can select on the Arthur Orenstein: the Michael Nagase: dings It Arthur Orenstein: p the Michael Nagase: goes Arthur Orenstein: whole Michael Nagase: to the next Arthur Orenstein: picture. Michael Nagase: page. Arthur Orenstein: Nah, uh David Finley: Click. Arthur Orenstein: never mind. Michael Nagase: Well, you can read it, it's not Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Michael Nagase: too difficult. Joshua Coleman: go Michael Nagase: Meanwhile, Joshua Coleman: ahead. Michael Nagase: this is a schematic uh um view of uh how a basic remote control works. You have uh basically uh the energy, the power of the of the remote control, uh and the sender, w which is the LED, the the the the the the the the the bulb that sends the the infrared Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Michael Nagase: beam to the, no, to the set. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Michael Nagase: And uh the source is of course the user. Uh the user interface is um uh the the the buttons of course. And the the user interface sends uh the the different signals of the different buttons to the chip, and the chip uh sends it to the LED, and the LED sends it to the receiver. That's the that's the basic David Finley: Yep. Michael Nagase: idea. Very basic. Um well I have uh uh put it in a in in in a a couple of basic steps. Uh the remote uh is basically just waiting for a user to press a key. It does nothing until uh of course uh the key is pressed. The key a signal to a chip, uh the chip senses the connection. uh and recognise the key. So well you understand. The chip uh produces Morse code, um a specific code to indicate that specific button that is pressed, of course. And it uses transistors in the in the remote control to amplify and to send uh that signal again to the to the LED, which is the bulb, of course. Now the LED produces an infrared beam and signals the, well it's uh very simple, and signals the David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: uh signals to the sensor on the T_V_ set, and the T_V_ set uh also recognises the the the signal, and performs the assigned task. David Finley: So it is also why we have to have a button that says uh I'm now busy with a D_V_D_ uh if we had done that. And a Michael Nagase: Ah David Finley: button Michael Nagase: bu Yeah, David Finley: for Michael Nagase: but we don't. David Finley: T_V_. Michael Nagase: Uh we No David Finley: So Michael Nagase: no, but Yeah. Exactly. Uh well this is uh the basic uh function of a remote. I've some couple of pictures here. It's a very basic one. And uh if we if we're going to add an uh an uh L_C_D_ screen to it, it uh won't look anything like this, but This is very basic uh basically the the shape of um of a remote control. It has uh very little buttons and But it it uh it's it's quite um Yeah, you can easily recognise the buttons. They're uh far enough apart and an anything. It's not very um Joshua Coleman: High Michael Nagase: uh Joshua Coleman: tech. Michael Nagase: not very high-tech uh indeed, and it's not very user-friendly. So we have to uh change a little bit uh to that, uh so that uh it becomes more user-friendly, and that uh problems like uh R_S_I_ and uh those kinds Arthur Orenstein: Right. Michael Nagase: of thing don't don't Arthur Orenstein: Can I say Michael Nagase: oc Arthur Orenstein: something? Michael Nagase: don't occur. Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Um I have a table here about uh the l the relevance of the buttons. Uh the power button is used very much, channel selection, volume and teletext. Well teletext is not an option, Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: so that uh But I think it's very important to make um the power, channel and volume buttons uh near to the thumb, so you can't have R_S_I_ uh consequences. Michael Nagase: Yeah, because they are the the most important buttons Arthur Orenstein: Right. Michael Nagase: and you can Arthur Orenstein: Make Michael Nagase: immediately Arthur Orenstein: them big, make them easy to uh David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: to press. Michael Nagase: You Joshua Coleman: You Michael Nagase: don't David Finley: but Joshua Coleman: can Michael Nagase: have Joshua Coleman: also Michael Nagase: to look and David Finley: but Michael Nagase: and Joshua Coleman: like Michael Nagase: search for them. David Finley: if you have Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: um the most used buttons all in one place, and you keep making the same um well moves. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: right. Joshua Coleman: I was David Finley: But Joshua Coleman: thinking Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: if Joshua Coleman: you David Finley: y if Joshua Coleman: can David Finley: you would put it at a different place, then you have to move your hands, and that's Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Joshua Coleman: Are David Finley: on Arthur Orenstein: that's Joshua Coleman: some David Finley: of Arthur Orenstein: right. David Finley: the things Joshua Coleman: of the David Finley: about R_S_I_. Arthur Orenstein: That's right. Joshua Coleman: the Arthur Orenstein: That's right. Michael Nagase: Well Joshua Coleman: the Michael Nagase: you Joshua Coleman: um Arthur Orenstein: We Michael Nagase: you can't have any uh every button under the thumb, of course. David Finley: No but the most Arthur Orenstein: But David Finley: important buttons m maybe you can just put them a bit apart Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: so you would Arthur Orenstein: That's very important. And David Finley: reject R_ R_S_I_ R_S_I_. Joshua Coleman: Maybe you can make, for for channel changing, two little buttons on the side of the remote, so you can just do like this. Like David Finley: Yes Joshua Coleman: some David Finley: I've saw Joshua Coleman: uh David Finley: that on m on mi mobile telephones Joshua Coleman: little David Finley: they also Joshua Coleman: uh Arthur Orenstein: But David Finley: have Arthur Orenstein: is Joshua Coleman: Gameboy David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: that David Finley: those Arthur Orenstein: is Joshua Coleman: things David Finley: buttons. Arthur Orenstein: that useable? Joshua Coleman: or some Hmm? Arthur Orenstein: Do people, uh when they pick up a remote, know that they have to do that? It's Joshua Coleman: Well Arthur Orenstein: a f it's a new feature, David Finley: Well it Arthur Orenstein: you David Finley: it's Arthur Orenstein: can Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: make make Joshua Coleman: Yeah alright, Arthur Orenstein: a double Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: feature l like a button on the top and under Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: it. David Finley: Well Joshua Coleman: but David Finley: also i Joshua Coleman: if David Finley: if Joshua Coleman: you s David Finley: someone Joshua Coleman: say David Finley: puts Joshua Coleman: them David Finley: picks Joshua Coleman: up David Finley: up Joshua Coleman: and down, David Finley: his uh Joshua Coleman: they they'll David Finley: remote Joshua Coleman: understand it, I think. David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Eighty Michael Nagase: Well, Joshua Coleman: per cent would. David Finley: If someone puts up i uh picks up his remote, and he picks up it he he touches the side then Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, David Finley: he's a already Arthur Orenstein: he feels David Finley: on the next Arthur Orenstein: it immediately. David Finley: channel. Joshua Coleman: Yeah David Finley: That's Joshua Coleman: that's David Finley: very Joshua Coleman: true. David Finley: irritating, Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, that's right. David Finley: I think. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah David Finley: Well. Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: Right, continue. Sorry. Michael Nagase: But in e in any case the David Finley: No. Michael Nagase: the basic function should be uh indeed, and as you say at the thumb. I think that's a good idea, and uh and that the less important uh buttons, like the the the different channels, uh the numbers one two three four five as well, should be uh yeah well not in reach, because uh they don't use it uh all the time. Well it's uh pretty pretty David Finley: Yep. Michael Nagase: basically uh as you said. And I have some pictures of the inside workings, but uh I don't want to get too technical, because David Finley: Mm-hmm. Michael Nagase: uh that's not uh very uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, that's Michael Nagase: useful Arthur Orenstein: right. David Finley: That's Michael Nagase: for David Finley: your Michael Nagase: you. David Finley: part of the job. Michael Nagase: So yeah exactly this is uh how it uh looks from the inside. David Finley: Yep. Michael Nagase: And uh well that's about it I think. Oh yeah, I still have this. Oh I had to delete this, but I had to make a schematic Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Michael Nagase: uh of the of the new But I had too David Finley: Okay. Michael Nagase: too little time, but uh don't uh David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: don't look at it please. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Michael Nagase: I I think David Finley: we understand. Michael Nagase: it's it's clear uh David Finley: We understand. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: how Arthur Orenstein: it's Michael Nagase: it Arthur Orenstein: clear. Michael Nagase: works. Alright. David Finley: Oh right, Michael Nagase: That's David Finley: no. Michael Nagase: the most important thing. David Finley: Nice. Michael Nagase: Alright. David Finley: Then Michael Nagase: Uh David Finley: uh Mike can uh give the third presentation. How Michael Nagase: Right. David Finley: late is did we start his presentation Arthur Orenstein: I dunno. David Finley: uh? Arthur Orenstein: I think uh w About David Finley: Wha Arthur Orenstein: twenty minutes ago? David Finley: Yeah. Well Arthur Orenstein: Losing time losing David Finley: then we Arthur Orenstein: time. David Finley: have still the time, so But we do have to come to a decision, Arthur Orenstein: Yeah right. David Finley: right Arthur Orenstein: So David Finley: later on. So Joshua Coleman: Mm. Well I thought um everybody on the website uh would see the same thing, but Arthur Orenstein: I don't think Joshua Coleman: obviously Arthur Orenstein: so. Joshua Coleman: that's not the case. Michael Nagase: Yeah, uh there are different uh We have all have different home pages, David Finley: Oh yeah? Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Michael Nagase: with different links. Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah right. David Finley: Uh? Joshua Coleman: For instance you couldn't see this. David Finley: Okay, yeah well. Joshua Coleman: Um Yeah. Well I'm Mike, User Interface David Finley: Mm-hmm. Joshua Coleman: Designer. The the method? Well I used my own experience with remotes, took a good l look uh at the remotes on the corporate website, which are these two. David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Um Arthur Orenstein: These are already in use? Joshua Coleman: Yes, these are from from another uh manufacturer. Arthur Orenstein: Alright, Joshua Coleman: Um Arthur Orenstein: okay. Joshua Coleman: This one is engineering-centred, so this one has the most functions and um things. This one is user-centred. David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Joshua Coleman: Um Arthur Orenstein: Well David Finley: I like user-centred. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein too. Joshua Coleman: I like user-centr centred David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: uh uh also the best. David Finley: We also do that. Joshua Coleman: Um Well, I thought uh that we uh reduce the the option to control the D_V_D_ also, and teletext and that kind of stuff. Arthur Orenstein: Mm. Joshua Coleman: Uh so I thought we we we would use more or need more buttons than this one. Arthur Orenstein: But we have to reject Joshua Coleman: But Arthur Orenstein: that, because Joshua Coleman: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: of the requirements? David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Th that's why this mm is not relevant any more I Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Joshua Coleman: feel. Um I think this is about the maximum number of buttons uh we'll need. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, right. Joshua Coleman: I um I kinda like the shape. I think this is what we talked about. But Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Michael Nagase: You can't really see uh the differ from different sides. But I think Joshua Coleman: No Michael Nagase: uh Joshua Coleman: I've Well I showed it somewhere. Um Michael Nagase: Uh you can draw it if you Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Oh yeah. I think we should go further with the idea of a removable front. So David Finley: Mm-hmm. Joshua Coleman: we can can uh yeah customise the David Finley: Well absolutely, but i th they all have to have something about um the recognition from our company. So Joshua Coleman: Mm? David Finley: we cannot just uh Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: make someone Joshua Coleman: It's a front. David Finley: w Joshua Coleman: It's not the the whole remote that changes, of David Finley: No Joshua Coleman: course. David Finley: but Arthur Orenstein: But Joshua Coleman: You David Finley: that's Arthur Orenstein: it Joshua Coleman: can David Finley: th the side they look uh look at is the front. So if y if you make a a front with just a a tiger on it, then uh Joshua Coleman: Mm. David Finley: our recognition is totally gone. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, that's right. Joshua Coleman: Or you can you can can put the same symbol on on every Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Joshua Coleman: remote. So Arthur Orenstein: that's Joshua Coleman: l Arthur Orenstein: a must. Joshua Coleman: like Arthur Orenstein: We David Finley: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: must Joshua Coleman: Ericsson Arthur Orenstein: have Michael Nagase: We Arthur Orenstein: that. Michael Nagase: can David Finley: we Michael Nagase: put David Finley: must. Joshua Coleman: does Michael Nagase: it on the on the back side. David Finley: Yeah Joshua Coleman: every uh David Finley: well and and Joshua Coleman: S something like this. David Finley: Yes. Joshua Coleman: It's recognisable. David Finley: 'Kay. Arthur Orenstein: We can Joshua Coleman: Um Arthur Orenstein: make a symbol of the company right here. And if you Joshua Coleman: Yeah? Arthur Orenstein: put a front on it, there's a hole on the front. So Michael Nagase: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: the symbol's Michael Nagase: so that Arthur Orenstein: always Joshua Coleman: Yeah Michael Nagase: you David Finley: Yeah Joshua Coleman: yeah. Michael Nagase: don't David Finley: yeah Joshua Coleman: Something Michael Nagase: replace David Finley: yeah. Joshua Coleman: like that, Michael Nagase: the symbol, Joshua Coleman: in the Michael Nagase: yeah. David Finley: Or Arthur Orenstein: on David Finley: the Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: th the the lowest part of the remote isn't changed Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, David Finley: by the front. Arthur Orenstein: yeah. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: But Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: let's David Finley: Those Arthur Orenstein: not David Finley: kind Arthur Orenstein: focus David Finley: of things. Arthur Orenstein: on the David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: front. David Finley: Okay. Joshua Coleman: Um Well so uh uh like I said I thought we'd we'd use more function. If we we had to include more functions. But we don't. So um David Finley: Mm-hmm. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Joshua Coleman: I think this is about the maximum number of buttons we need. Maybe some less. Like eject we don't need, and some other buttons we don't need. I think Michael Nagase: Mike, Joshua Coleman: uh Michael Nagase: uh can you put uh that picture from Arthur Orenstein on the in the Word documents file? Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Michael Nagase: In Map? Joshua Coleman: I will. I think uh for the remote um uh less is more. The less buttons the better the design. Um David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Joshua Coleman: We Arthur Orenstein: I Joshua Coleman: should Arthur Orenstein: agree. Joshua Coleman: go with that concept I think. I know. David Finley: Alright. Arthur Orenstein: I've I've got another point. David Finley: Yeah? Arthur Orenstein: Um there are two target audi audiences, and we've uh chose for the younger one. Um, Joshua Coleman: Mm. Arthur Orenstein: research has shown that um it's a high interested uh in features. They are high high interested in feature. But they are more critical. Fo Yeah, critical. Michael Nagase: The Arthur Orenstein: So Michael Nagase: younger uh Arthur Orenstein: The younger audience. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: So we must um must design uh a control that really speaks to the people. David Finley: Well what if we um I at I at home have a remote that has um the most familiar uh buttons on the top, Arthur Orenstein: Mm-hmm. David Finley: and the bottom side of the front has a little clip, a f a little uh You can click away and then you have f much more functions that most people don't use but s some do do. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. I think uh the most functions uh underneath that uh Arthur Orenstein: Clip aren't Michael Nagase: uh Arthur Orenstein: used much. Michael Nagase: No um David Finley: Well but Michael Nagase: mm David Finley: because Michael Nagase: usually David Finley: you say they their features are important, they want Arthur Orenstein: Yeah right. David Finley: m um Michael Nagase: But David Finley: a lot, but not Joshua Coleman: Yeah, but what kind of features? Michael Nagase: Yeah Joshua Coleman: Like Michael Nagase: I think Joshua Coleman: L_C_D_ screens Arthur Orenstein: Yeah Joshua Coleman: and Michael Nagase: m Arthur Orenstein: but Michael Nagase: most Joshua Coleman: voice recognition. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: But I've Michael Nagase: Most Arthur Orenstein: Here, look Michael Nagase: uh Arthur Orenstein: at these numbers. The newest features are, like I said, are uh L_C_D_ and uh speech uh control. Our audience, these people, are very like these uh features. David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: You see? So Michael Nagase: Uh. Arthur Orenstein: we must build in something, or they will to uh go to the concurrent. Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: The Michael Nagase: Our David Finley: Competitors. Michael Nagase: competitor. Arthur Orenstein: concurrent? Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Competitors, right. So, I do think we have to uh have some features. David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Even though they David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: cost a little more. David Finley: maybe w we could uh s On um some uh calculators you have lo those little little Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: L_C_D_ Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: th that you can click on or something, or that you can click uh out uh of the remote. And if if that's gives you a little bit of sta status Arthur Orenstein: Like David Finley: information. Arthur Orenstein: a ticker-tape. David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Which programme you are l watching or something. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, that's nice. David Finley: Those kind of things, uh because you also have those uh those program recognition for your V_ V_C_R_s. And uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, right. David Finley: well Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: if y Arthur Orenstein: Yeah right. David Finley: if your remote picks that up also, you they can display which programme you're currently watching. Michael Nagase: Yeah. So it it just signals the the different uh sig uh the different symbols on the screen David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: you have, uh because if you change to s channel two you have two on the screen and two on your on your um David Finley: For example. Michael Nagase: on your L_C_D_ screen. David Finley: It it could be such a little uh th that you can click in and out and you and you have it. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, we should keep that simple too. Michael Nagase: But should Joshua Coleman: It David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: it uh really be Joshua Coleman: will Michael Nagase: uh clickable, uh Arthur Orenstein: No not David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: clickable. David Finley: maybe. Joshua Coleman: No, it Arthur Orenstein: Nah, Michael Nagase: or Joshua Coleman: should Arthur Orenstein: no Joshua Coleman: be Arthur Orenstein: no no. Joshua Coleman: uh integrated. I Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: or just Arthur Orenstein: just Joshua Coleman: think Michael Nagase: integrate Arthur Orenstein: at Michael Nagase: inside to Arthur Orenstein: at Michael Nagase: try to Arthur Orenstein: the Michael Nagase: make Arthur Orenstein: top. Michael Nagase: it d more trendy. Arthur Orenstein: So when you s you sit like this you can can watch. I think David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: it Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: should be Joshua Coleman: something Arthur Orenstein: at the top. Joshua Coleman: like on David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: um some radios in car. You Where it's, yeah, walking Arthur Orenstein: Yeah right. Joshua Coleman: to Arthur Orenstein: It's David Finley: R_D_S_s Arthur Orenstein: a Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: or Arthur Orenstein: ticker-tape David Finley: something. Arthur Orenstein: idea. Michael Nagase: But that's of course uh a bit more uh expensive than uh the basic uh calculator design, with the scrolling text and that kind of thing. Joshua Coleman: Wa Arthur Orenstein: Well it's just David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: one David Finley: I Arthur Orenstein: script. David Finley: think it's you got Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: It just means it's a script that's uh keeps it uh rolling, and it's not uh That's five minutes off uh implementing Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, David Finley: time Arthur Orenstein: five David Finley: I think Arthur Orenstein: minutes David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: of ja ja for programming. David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: So I don't think that's the issue. David Finley: No. Michael Nagase: Alright. Arthur Orenstein: Alright, we go with the L_C_D_ screen? David Finley: Uh well I think so, yes. Joshua Coleman: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: 'Kay. David Finley: Um Joshua Coleman: well we we we still need to know how much that will cost. Arthur Orenstein: Right, I don't know if I can David Finley: We're Arthur Orenstein: find David Finley: g Arthur Orenstein: that, David Finley: No but Arthur Orenstein: but David Finley: we're we'll Joshua Coleman: Or David Finley: have Joshua Coleman: maybe David Finley: to look into Joshua Coleman: you will David Finley: that. Joshua Coleman: get that information uh Arthur Orenstein: Next David Finley: Um Arthur Orenstein: time. Yeah right. David Finley: we can use Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: this board again, I think. Uh we can put some um decisions about um the controls we want, th the issue. Where is my presentation? Uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. David Finley: Uh Arthur Orenstein: We should have a general idea of how it's gonna look. David Finley: Well I mean we're all here now, I think. These I've already given you. So we have to decide on the different remote control functions. Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: So we want to have a small L_C_D_ screen Arthur Orenstein: At the top. David Finley: that's special. Michael Nagase: Shouldn't we start with the most important Joshua Coleman: At Michael Nagase: parts? Joshua Coleman: the top David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: The L_C_D_ Joshua Coleman: or Michael Nagase: screen Joshua Coleman: at the bottom? Michael Nagase: alright Arthur Orenstein: I think Michael Nagase: but Arthur Orenstein: the top Michael Nagase: we should Arthur Orenstein: is more Michael Nagase: start Arthur Orenstein: uh Michael Nagase: with the power button? Uh David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: When Joshua Coleman: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: you s Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: How do you zap? You just sit in your chair? Michael Nagase: Huh? Arthur Orenstein: With Joshua Coleman: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: the Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: remote? Joshua Coleman: with with the L_C_D_ screen on the top it David Finley: That Joshua Coleman: gets David Finley: thing is Joshua Coleman: a bit David Finley: terrible. Joshua Coleman: unnatural. 'Cause most remotes have some space left at the bottom. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah but that's where your hand ball might be. David Finley: Uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Arthur Orenstein: I dunno. Joshua Coleman: no Mm. Michael Nagase: And then uh Arthur Orenstein: We'll draw two, and then we'll see uh Michael Nagase: Maybe we should uh centralise the discussion here. I dunno what uh you were Arthur Orenstein: No Michael Nagase: talking about but Arthur Orenstein: Um he Michael Nagase: we Arthur Orenstein: thinks Michael Nagase: are busy with something. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, right. He thinks it's better to put the L_C_D_ at the bottom, and I think it's better at the top. Michael Nagase: Uh-huh. Why David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: do you think it's better at the bottom? Joshua Coleman: Uh well because most uh remotes have um some space left at the bottom, and that way you can keep the shape recognisable for Arthur Orenstein: But Joshua Coleman: everybody. Arthur Orenstein: your Michael Nagase: But you Joshua Coleman: I Michael Nagase: just Joshua Coleman: c Michael Nagase: can put uh the the the the the whole interface a bit down, so that there's Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Well Michael Nagase: room Arthur Orenstein: The Joshua Coleman: I d Michael Nagase: for Joshua Coleman: I think Michael Nagase: the for Joshua Coleman: that's Arthur Orenstein: the Michael Nagase: the interface. Arthur Orenstein: ticker Joshua Coleman: that's Arthur Orenstein: The L_C_D_ Joshua Coleman: ugly Arthur Orenstein: is Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: like like small. It's it's wide. It's Michael Nagase: Uh-huh. Arthur Orenstein: not not high. But David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: And and David Finley: I th Michael Nagase: we David Finley: I Michael Nagase: can Joshua Coleman: I David Finley: think Joshua Coleman: th David Finley: Mike Mike has a point, because Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: um Joshua Coleman: Power David Finley: when when Joshua Coleman: button David Finley: uh when I Joshua Coleman: always David Finley: use a remote Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: I l I hate the buttons but buttons at the at the Michael Nagase: Bottom. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: bottom. So and and Joshua Coleman: Yeah, David Finley: I Joshua Coleman: y David Finley: I like Joshua Coleman: you David Finley: to Joshua Coleman: gotta David Finley: use the Joshua Coleman: zap David Finley: ones Joshua Coleman: like this or you want David Finley: on the Joshua Coleman: to David Finley: top. So Arthur Orenstein: Yeah David Finley: when Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: right. David Finley: I Arthur Orenstein: But David Finley: u when I have to have an L_C_D_ Michael Nagase: Well David Finley: s scr Arthur Orenstein: We're making David Finley: window Michael Nagase: that's Arthur Orenstein: a remote Michael Nagase: a Arthur Orenstein: with Michael Nagase: bit exaggerated. Well, I agree with you. Arthur Orenstein: with a few functions you know. Michael Nagase: It's Arthur Orenstein: We Michael Nagase: it's also more recognisable. It looks more like a calculator to people, if you have the l the the David Finley: Yes but we we we Michael Nagase: the David Finley: we Michael Nagase: thing David Finley: don't Michael Nagase: on top. David Finley: want that. Joshua Coleman: Yeah you don't want David Finley: We don't Joshua Coleman: You want David Finley: want Joshua Coleman: uh David Finley: them to look Joshua Coleman: Yeah David Finley: like a calculator. Joshua Coleman: it David Finley: We Joshua Coleman: it David Finley: want to Joshua Coleman: it David Finley: look Joshua Coleman: must David Finley: it Joshua Coleman: be a remote. David Finley: like our original Michael Nagase: Yeah David Finley: but Michael Nagase: w David Finley: familiar Michael Nagase: well, but uh you Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Michael Nagase: don't have to throw uh um important aspe Arthur Orenstein: High-tech. Michael Nagase: important aspect like familiarity David Finley: Yea Michael Nagase: uh completely away, uh because David Finley: Maybe Michael Nagase: I think David Finley: a Michael Nagase: it's David Finley: bic Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: uh better uh white uh We White? Michael Nagase: I think Arthur Orenstein: Width. Michael Nagase: it's still important to David Finley: Width. Michael Nagase: have it at the top, David Finley: Uh Michael Nagase: because it's David Finley: format Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: yeah format? Line width? Width? Arthur Orenstein: Th Michael Nagase: it's more familiar Arthur Orenstein: that's not Michael Nagase: that Arthur Orenstein: a problem. Michael Nagase: way. David Finley: Yeah? Arthur Orenstein: When I draw here it Oh. Huh? David Finley: It's a bit off. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, it's off. David Finley: Well. Michael Nagase: A little a little bit. Arthur Orenstein: It it needs to be calibrated David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: again. David Finley: uh let's Arthur Orenstein: Well David Finley: uh talk about that later uh Michael Nagase: Maybe you should another pen. Maybe that's uh better. Arthur Orenstein: Where? Michael Nagase: You e you only have David Finley: It's Michael Nagase: one pen David Finley: special Michael Nagase: for that David Finley: pen. Michael Nagase: screen. Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Alright, we have to make a decision now, because David Finley: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: we don't have much time. David Finley: No. Arthur Orenstein: Um I think we have uh a few functions, and we can put uh the L_C_D_ above it, and still have lots of room at the bottom, Michael Nagase: Yeah. I Arthur Orenstein: where you can put Michael Nagase: I Arthur Orenstein: your Michael Nagase: agree. Arthur Orenstein: hand. David Finley: I think it should be at the button, bottom. Michael Nagase: Well Joshua Coleman: At the bottom? Michael Nagase: I'm David Finley: Bottom. Michael Nagase: the I I'm the designer, David Finley: The L_C_D_. Michael Nagase: so um Joshua Coleman: In a Arthur Orenstein: At Joshua Coleman: few Arthur Orenstein: the Joshua Coleman: minutes Arthur Orenstein: bot Joshua Coleman: Oh yeah, oh David Finley: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: yeah, I totally Arthur Orenstein: So Joshua Coleman: agree. Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: We are two uh V_S_ two. David Finley: Well but uh what what if we we Joshua Coleman: He's David Finley: first Joshua Coleman: the boss. David Finley: decide the different functions, Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: and then Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: look at the Arthur Orenstein: Great. David Finley: design. Michael Nagase: Uh we uh David Finley: Because Michael Nagase: we David Finley: we Michael Nagase: were David Finley: have to Michael Nagase: busy David Finley: decide Michael Nagase: with that. David Finley: this. Michael Nagase: Uh yeah we should uh summon the David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: the different uh aspects of the thing. So, we have the power button. Arthur Orenstein: And moreover I think that you two should be uh come to consensus about the L_C_D_ David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: s. It's uh your it's your job. Michael Nagase: Yeah of course. Uh it's uh. Joshua Coleman: No Michael Nagase: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: it's David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: W Joshua Coleman: our David Finley: we have Joshua Coleman: job. Michael Nagase: wh David Finley: a power button. Guys? Michael Nagase: While you have to agree, I Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: can say Arthur Orenstein: right. Michael Nagase: it's like this and David Finley: Guys? Arthur Orenstein: Alright, Michael Nagase: you must agree. Arthur Orenstein: let's Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: keep David Finley: We Arthur Orenstein: it David Finley: have Arthur Orenstein: central. David Finley: a power button, setting buttons, L_C_D_ window, Joshua Coleman: The ten David Finley: the number Joshua Coleman: numbers? David Finley: buttons Joshua Coleman: Yeah? Michael Nagase: Channel, yeah. David Finley: Uh Joshua Coleman: Volume? Michael Nagase: Volume control. David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: Um Arthur Orenstein: Mm. David Finley: Uh Michael Nagase: Well let's look at your uh design. David Finley: the mute Michael Nagase: Uh David Finley: button. I h love that one. Michael Nagase: Uh-huh. Joshua Coleman: I think we we should use something like this um to um The the channel up and channel down button? David Finley: Yes. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, in circle, you know? David Finley: Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Well Joshua Coleman: And David Finley: that's Joshua Coleman: and David Finley: that's Joshua Coleman: a David Finley: also Joshua Coleman: volume David Finley: design. Joshua Coleman: control also David Finley: Yes. Joshua Coleman: in it. Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: Um Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: But David Finley: h Michael Nagase: th David Finley: ho Michael Nagase: th on this remote th these controls are for something else, a D_V_D_ David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: player or David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: something. Joshua Coleman: Yes, David Finley: They Michael Nagase: So David Finley: are Joshua Coleman: as David Finley: for some Joshua Coleman: I David Finley: uh Joshua Coleman: already David Finley: video Joshua Coleman: said, David Finley: uh Joshua Coleman: we could drop some of these buttons. Arthur Orenstein: You should put that uh power button, channel and volume should have the most uh importance. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. I think these should be in one big circle in the middle. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, but what he said about R_S_I_ was t kinda true. When when you uh put them all in the same place, the most used buttons, you're doing the same thing all the time, and that's just what R_S_I_'s all about. So it might be smarter to put them a little more David Finley: Apart. Arthur Orenstein: away from each other. David Finley: So people have to move their hand. And they get less uh complaints of R_S_I_. Michael Nagase: Yeah, it's it's also not good to completely stay in one position constantly with one hand. Y David Finley: That's what I always do, because Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: all my i important buttons Michael Nagase: It's David Finley: are the Michael Nagase: good David Finley: same Michael Nagase: to move David Finley: place. Michael Nagase: uh from time to time. Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: Um Joshua Coleman: but David Finley: Yes? Joshua Coleman: people don't like it when their buttons are all over the place. They Michael Nagase: No David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: but David Finley: not Joshua Coleman: they need Michael Nagase: now Joshua Coleman: to Michael Nagase: y Joshua Coleman: be centred. Michael Nagase: W would we have to choose a Arthur Orenstein: Frequency Michael Nagase: way Arthur Orenstein: of Michael Nagase: in middle? Arthur Orenstein: uh button use. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: Um channels are uh most uh is most used within the hour. David Finley: Uh-huh. Joshua Coleman: Volume Arthur Orenstein: You Joshua Coleman: hardly. Arthur Orenstein: can see. So the the channel uh channel buttons should Michael Nagase: Mm-hmm. Arthur Orenstein: be far far apart, I think, up and down. Joshua Coleman: No I don't think. Michael Nagase: Oh. David Finley: Up Michael Nagase: Far David Finley: and Michael Nagase: apart? David Finley: down far apart from each other? Arthur Orenstein: You thinking uh about Joshua Coleman: Yeah but Arthur Orenstein: R_S_I_? Joshua Coleman: Yeah David Finley: Well Joshua Coleman: but Arthur Orenstein: Y David Finley: not Arthur Orenstein: look David Finley: too Arthur Orenstein: at David Finley: much. Arthur Orenstein: uh look Joshua Coleman: No. Arthur Orenstein: at the frequency. Nei not too much, but Joshua Coleman: The other the other two uh frustrations are far more important. So Michael Nagase: I think you can have the two buttons of up and down close together, but you don't have uh have to have volume control David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: and David Finley: for example Michael Nagase: and David Finley: the power Michael Nagase: zapping button David Finley: button, Michael Nagase: close together. David Finley: you can Joshua Coleman: Well they are used four times David Finley: If someone Joshua Coleman: an hour, David Finley: is Joshua Coleman: so David Finley: constantly z zapping, it's not going to miss, that it that the power button is not right beside it. Because I Arthur Orenstein: Nei David Finley: have Arthur Orenstein: nei nei David Finley: someone Arthur Orenstein: n I I David Finley: But Arthur Orenstein: totally David Finley: the buttons Arthur Orenstein: agree. David Finley: is way. So Arthur Orenstein: But David Finley: that one Arthur Orenstein: just David Finley: can be put away. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Right. Yeah. I David Finley: The power Arthur Orenstein: agree. David Finley: button can uh be uh uh Joshua Coleman: Power bu button should be left at the top. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: And should and should be red. Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: Oh man, five minutes. Yeah, well Arthur Orenstein: Right, David Finley: five minutes left. Arthur Orenstein: just make some decisions. David Finley: Yep. Arthur Orenstein: The most important things we have to uh David Finley: Um how are we going to do it Michael Nagase: C c David Finley: with Michael Nagase: can you David Finley: those Michael Nagase: make you David Finley: numbers? Michael Nagase: make We can use uh the drawing board now, I think. Uh it it doesn't work well but But it it David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: would be David Finley: I have Michael Nagase: pretty David Finley: it here. Michael Nagase: pretty uh nice if we could just draw a simple Arthur Orenstein: I do Michael Nagase: thing. David Finley: Yeah Arthur Orenstein: think you David Finley: well Arthur Orenstein: have David Finley: that's Arthur Orenstein: to David Finley: going Arthur Orenstein: keep David Finley: to take Arthur Orenstein: you David Finley: too Arthur Orenstein: have David Finley: too Arthur Orenstein: to David Finley: much Arthur Orenstein: keep David Finley: time. Arthur Orenstein: it central now. Just Joshua Coleman: Mm. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: uh Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: you decide that, you decide that, Michael Nagase: Mm. Arthur Orenstein: and David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: Alright. Arthur Orenstein: ready. David Finley: Well the L_C_D_. Um you are Industrial, you are User Interface. So I think it's going to go to Mike. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: But you will have to make consensus with. Well Joshua Coleman: Well consensus, David Finley: Well Joshua Coleman: um David Finley: it's a bit Arthur Orenstein: Nei. David Finley: hard, Joshua Coleman: We we David Finley: because Joshua Coleman: can David Finley: we Arthur Orenstein: We're Joshua Coleman: put David Finley: are going Joshua Coleman: it in David Finley: to Joshua Coleman: the David Finley: be Joshua Coleman: middle, Arthur Orenstein: No David Finley: uh individually. Joshua Coleman: so David Finley: That's a bit Arthur Orenstein: We're David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: deciding now, David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: so Top or bottom? Michael Nagase: Well uh yeah I I still think it's it's quite important though to uh David Finley: Yes it Michael Nagase: to David Finley: is. Michael Nagase: have it at the top, so Yeah. You say familiarity isn't important but David Finley: Well what if we're going to now decide about the functions, and the design comes into the next round? Arthur Orenstein: Okay. David Finley: Plus the d th Michael Nagase: Yeah David Finley: the design Michael Nagase: d David Finley: round is still to come huh? Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: right. Okay. Joshua Coleman: Alright. David Finley: Alright these functions. Michael Nagase: As we we we David Finley: The number Michael Nagase: we agreed, David Finley: f Michael Nagase: we do David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: have a L_C_D_. David Finley: yes, Michael Nagase: So David Finley: that's alright. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, Michael Nagase: that's Arthur Orenstein: okay. David Finley: W the number function. Michael Nagase: that's enough. Yeah. David Finley: Are we going to uh do it like uh on Mike's screen with uh one button that says I'm going to do a t two number digital? Joshua Coleman: No. David Finley: How do you want it to do then? Michael Nagase: There's Joshua Coleman: Well Michael Nagase: one two Joshua Coleman: just Michael Nagase: three four five Joshua Coleman: when Michael Nagase: six Joshua Coleman: you David Finley: It Michael Nagase: six David Finley: it has Joshua Coleman: push Michael Nagase: seven David Finley: to Joshua Coleman: a Michael Nagase: eight David Finley: r Michael Nagase: nine David Finley: recognise Joshua Coleman: one one Michael Nagase: zero. Joshua Coleman: and David Finley: one as there could still come more. Joshua Coleman: No, if you Michael Nagase: Oh, Joshua Coleman: On Michael Nagase: like that. Joshua Coleman: most Michael Nagase: Um Joshua Coleman: T_V_s if you uh press two numbers shortly after each other, David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: They'd recognise Joshua Coleman: d it Yeah. Michael Nagase: it. Th David Finley: Alright Michael Nagase: that's David Finley: so Michael Nagase: the David Finley: no Michael Nagase: most David Finley: button for Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: that. Michael Nagase: That that's Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Michael Nagase: very easy. Arthur Orenstein: No. Michael Nagase: Yeah. David Finley: Okay uh anyone any uh oth other functionalities of our uh remote? Michael Nagase: I think these are the the most important Arthur Orenstein: Do Michael Nagase: functions. Arthur Orenstein: you still have the pictures over there? Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: So Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, that's about it. You do need the uh multi Or did uh No, like this one. You do need them? David Finley: No, we'd Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, David Finley: uh just said we Arthur Orenstein: I David Finley: didn't Arthur Orenstein: know. David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: But are we Alright, alright David Finley: Well Arthur Orenstein: uh David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: Now okay. David Finley: Um well because we can't integrate it with any other uh remotes, all those buttons on those pictures are uh irrelevant. Arthur Orenstein: Right. David Finley: So just for a television is that all we need? Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, it's most useable this way. Joshua Coleman: Yeah. Michael Nagase: basic function. David Finley: Teletext is gone. So all those buttons that ar are to do with teletext Oh screen placing. We'll have uh those uh buttons about uh And uh the two important ones we're l f forgetting. Uh there's um screen. You can make it wider and Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. David Finley: less wide. And the button that you can go to A_V_ for your video. Arthur Orenstein: Right. I do Michael Nagase: Oh yeah. Arthur Orenstein: think we have to put that underneath a clip. David Finley: Those two? But it's just two, Michael Nagase: Uh David Finley: and we make Michael Nagase: just David Finley: a clip? Michael Nagase: two just two under uh under David Finley: Th that's Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: a Joshua Coleman: We David Finley: bit Joshua Coleman: we David Finley: uh Joshua Coleman: can make David Finley: waste. Joshua Coleman: make uh a little row of like four buttons down here. David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah. Okay, right. Michael Nagase: I David Finley: Or Michael Nagase: I think David Finley: at Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: the top. Your L_C_D_ screen is Joshua Coleman: Or David Finley: going Joshua Coleman: at David Finley: to go. Michael Nagase: But you you can Joshua Coleman: Yeah Michael Nagase: put Joshua Coleman: alright Michael Nagase: uh Joshua Coleman: then. Michael Nagase: two or three buttons under uh another section. Uh that's that's too complicated. David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: You can just put it somewhere They David Finley: Yeah Michael Nagase: they aren't used much, not as much as those other, so you Joshua Coleman: Oh, Michael Nagase: can Joshua Coleman: they Michael Nagase: put Joshua Coleman: can Michael Nagase: it somewhere Joshua Coleman: be small or round Michael Nagase: Yeah s Joshua Coleman: like Michael Nagase: bit Joshua Coleman: buttons. Michael Nagase: smaller and s Well uh and and I think more at the bottom. Yeah. Yeah or at the top, yeah. What do you think uh those those buttons? Above David Finley: Well I Michael Nagase: or David Finley: think they Michael Nagase: down? David Finley: should in an in an isolated part of the remote. Michael Nagase: And w where? Well we design it later. We have it, and we design David Finley: Yes? Michael Nagase: later where everything David Finley: Yes. Michael Nagase: goes. Yeah. David Finley: Yes. Well any other uh Arthur Orenstein: Well if you you Joshua Coleman: Why go Arthur Orenstein: take Joshua Coleman: to Arthur Orenstein: those Joshua Coleman: video? Arthur Orenstein: th If you David Finley: Go to video, that's always on your remote control. Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, but David Finley: To Arthur Orenstein: you can z David Finley: A_V_ Arthur Orenstein: you David Finley: uh Arthur Orenstein: can David Finley: to Arthur Orenstein: zap David Finley: A_V_ Arthur Orenstein: t Michael Nagase: The Arthur Orenstein: you Michael Nagase: the video Arthur Orenstein: can David Finley: A_V_ Michael Nagase: channel Arthur Orenstein: you Michael Nagase: uh? Arthur Orenstein: can zap David Finley: A_V_. Arthur Orenstein: to the video channel Joshua Coleman: That's Arthur Orenstein: from Joshua Coleman: just Arthur Orenstein: zero Joshua Coleman: zero. Arthur Orenstein: to uh Joshua Coleman: Yeah. David Finley: Well Michael Nagase: No no David Finley: l Michael Nagase: not David Finley: n no Michael Nagase: always. David Finley: not at not at Michael Nagase: Ze David Finley: my remote. Michael Nagase: yeah zero is a different channel than uh David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: the Joshua Coleman: Yeah, Michael Nagase: the Joshua Coleman: but Michael Nagase: video Joshua Coleman: you can Michael Nagase: channel. Joshua Coleman: can zap Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, but Joshua Coleman: down Arthur Orenstein: when you zap down zero David Finley: Yes. Arthur Orenstein: you get to A_V_. Joshua Coleman: Yes, I David Finley: I Joshua Coleman: think David Finley: don't. Joshua Coleman: th David Finley: I go to ninety-nine. Joshua Coleman: No, Arthur Orenstein: Ah uh Joshua Coleman: then Arthur Orenstein: well Joshua Coleman: you press ninety Arthur Orenstein: whatever, Joshua Coleman: nine. I think go to video is an David Finley: Th Joshua Coleman: irrelevant David Finley: that's the button Joshua Coleman: button, David Finley: uh Joshua Coleman: but David Finley: No. Michael Nagase: But it's easy to go If you are at uh at channel uh fifty five and you want to uh go immediately to the video channel, you do you have to push a to David Finley: No Michael Nagase: to get David Finley: you can Michael Nagase: below David Finley: ch push Michael Nagase: zero. David Finley: zero. Michael Nagase: It's more David Finley: Yeah. Michael Nagase: easy to get to uh David Finley: Yeah, I I Michael Nagase: where the David Finley: think Michael Nagase: specific uh David Finley: that Michael Nagase: video David Finley: one Michael Nagase: channel David Finley: button Michael Nagase: button. David Finley: is uh I use it uh Arthur Orenstein: Yeah, but if we're choosing to uh incorporate these buttons, you have to have uh channel setting, if you wa if you have a new T_V_. You have David Finley: Yeah? Arthur Orenstein: to set the channels. Right all th these uh different buttons you David Finley: These Arthur Orenstein: have David Finley: buttons, Arthur Orenstein: to David Finley: I don't have buttons for channel setting uh especially on my remote. Arthur Orenstein: Ah, Michael Nagase: Yeah well Arthur Orenstein: I do. Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: It's Michael Nagase: d David Finley: it's Joshua Coleman: Yeah well Michael Nagase: different David Finley: incorporated Michael Nagase: screen settings David Finley: with Joshua Coleman: y you must David Finley: p Joshua Coleman: have. Michael Nagase: a David Finley: m Michael Nagase: Yeah, sk David Finley: plus and down, uh Michael Nagase: Yeah y David Finley: those Michael Nagase: you you you Joshua Coleman: Yeah you yeah Michael Nagase: you Joshua Coleman: you have Michael Nagase: have Joshua Coleman: one Michael Nagase: screen width. Joshua Coleman: one button from s set frequency o or something, and then with plus and min minus you can uh adjust Arthur Orenstein: Right. Joshua Coleman: the uh Arthur Orenstein: That's the only one we put uh in there. David Finley: So we still have one uh four? Arthur Orenstein: For a screen uh fu uh David Finley: Ch Arthur Orenstein: channel setting. David Finley: ch Michael Nagase: Yeah to uh oh yeah of course to configure Arthur Orenstein: Programme, Michael Nagase: the Arthur Orenstein: right. Michael Nagase: programme David Finley: Okay. Michael Nagase: the David Finley: Oh the Okay button? Michael Nagase: Yeah. Arthur Orenstein: Uh David Finley: Oh you always have in the centre an Okay button, Michael Nagase: Yeah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, alright. David Finley: for your menu. Menu button. Michael Nagase: You should Yeah. I think that's important. Uh David Finley: Channel, setting, menu. We Michael Nagase: And and the settings David Finley: have Michael Nagase: to change the brightness David Finley: to go. Michael Nagase: the settings to change the brightness and the contrast. David Finley: Okay. Michael Nagase: Channel, yeah. David Finley: So um Michael Nagase: Chief? David Finley: Save. Michael Nagase: Chief? David Finley: Yes see. Michael Nagase: Th the menu menu button is also important. Then David Finley: Yes Michael Nagase: you can David Finley: I have Michael Nagase: uh David Finley: put it in. Michael Nagase: Where? I don't see it. David Finley: Here. Michael Nagase: Oh Menu, alright. Joshua Coleman: I think things like uh contrast and brightness should be um Michael Nagase: In the menu. Joshua Coleman: in the menu, Michael Nagase: And Joshua Coleman: yeah. Michael Nagase: you can uh then adjust it with the zapping buttons or something. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, the Michael Nagase: Because uh David Finley: Alright. Michael Nagase: the zapping buttons aren't Joshua Coleman: Or Michael Nagase: used Joshua Coleman: the volume Michael Nagase: then if you Joshua Coleman: or Michael Nagase: are in Joshua Coleman: something Michael Nagase: the menu. Joshua Coleman: like David Finley: Guys? Joshua Coleman: that. Michael Nagase: Yeah. Or David Finley: We're Michael Nagase: the David Finley: going Michael Nagase: volume, David Finley: to Michael Nagase: yeah. David Finley: uh go to our uh rooms, and uh we'll Joshua Coleman: Your pen. David Finley: have to decide s Arthur Orenstein: Ah. David Finley: things on our own I think. Arthur Orenstein: Great. David Finley: So Michael Nagase: Yes chief. Arthur Orenstein: Alright. Joshua Coleman: I thought David Finley: Well Joshua Coleman: we'd David Finley: see Joshua Coleman: uh David Finley: you Joshua Coleman: lunch Michael Nagase: Yeah David Finley: uh Michael Nagase: this David Finley: W w Michael Nagase: is Joshua Coleman: uh David Finley: we Joshua Coleman: right David Finley: have lunchtime, Joshua Coleman: now, Michael Nagase: this Joshua Coleman: or Michael Nagase: is your Joshua Coleman: not? Michael Nagase: thing. David Finley: by the way, now Arthur Orenstein: Ah. Joshua Coleman: Yeah, David Finley: uh so Arthur Orenstein: Okay. Joshua Coleman: lunch David Finley: uh Joshua Coleman: break. Michael Nagase: I am hungry. David Finley: Lunch. Arthur Orenstein: Get into my belly. David Finley: Ah. We didn't exactly do everything Michael Nagase: See you later mate. David Finley: but So

There are some new requirements for the project: the device will have to be for TV only, they should ignore the teletext function, as it is dated, and, also, the remote should be recognisable as a Real Reaction product. The target group will be people below 30. It transpires that customers are willing to pay more for fancier looking remotes, especially if they include LCD screens and speech recognition. Functions like zapping are very prevalent, as well as complaints about remotes being difficult to learn and easy to lose. The function of the remote is relatively simple: by pressing a button a current is passed to the chip, and defines what signal is to be sent to the receiver (the TV) via infrared. The team agreed to follow a user-centred approach and simplify the design by somehow minimising the number of buttons. They plan to include an LCD screen to display relevant information. Other functions are served by push buttons: OK, menu, screen sizing, AV, settings buttons, mute, digits 1-9, power, volume control, channel up/down with the last three types being prominent on the device. The exact design and placement of the components will be decided in the next meeting.

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Daniel Williamson: Uh fourth meeting. Leo Parker: We have to do what? Daniel Williamson: Some extra deciding. Winfred Griffith: W what? Alri Leo Parker: Oh. Winfred Griffith: alright. Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: We'll see. Daniel Williamson: I'll show you the notes again. Very interesting. Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Then um I guess that's your bit? Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: I I didn't s see anything about it, so I already uh thought you uh you were to do that. So the you're uh. I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this Leo Parker: Mm. Daniel Williamson: uh design. Winfred Griffith: Yeah, that's important too. Yeah. Daniel Williamson: And then we'll Leo Parker: Bit late. Daniel Williamson: evaluate, after after we have redesigned it. Because uh well we'll see about the costs. Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close. Winfred Griffith: Alright. Daniel Williamson: Well the finance uh we'll do later, so um firstly uh I'll show you the notes. I don't think it's very interesting. Leo Parker: I think it is. Daniel Williamson: Oh nei. Uh no. Alright. This is copy paste. So Winfred Griffith: From Gary Patton of course, yeah. Daniel Williamson: Of course. You had Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: some Winfred Griffith: from us Daniel Williamson: very Winfred Griffith: all, yeah, Daniel Williamson: strange Winfred Griffith: from Daniel Williamson: layout. Winfred Griffith: all of us. Yeah. It's a nice chorus, yeah. Daniel Williamson: Well um We ge we went through the agenda, and well we had some uh some presentations from you three. And uh I summarised what you said to us. So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again. Winfred Griffith: Repeat it yeah. Daniel Williamson: So uh Winfred Griffith: Alright. Daniel Williamson: This is what we decided. It's also copy paste from what we made together. So Gary Patton: Okay. Daniel Williamson: we still know that. And then uh we can we can uh use the time better. Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us. Winfred Griffith: Alright, we both uh will? Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Or one of us will? Leo Parker: Alright. Winfred Griffith: Uh Leo Parker: No you go and I'll uh Winfred Griffith: Alright. If I Leo Parker: supplement Winfred Griffith: make mistakes Leo Parker: you. Winfred Griffith: uh you'll uh Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Correct. Winfred Griffith: Right. Uh well this is our design. Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting. With uh the different uh perspectives of it. Uh we'll begin uh with the front. We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape. Um with uh the upper part being the front. Th So there's this part um which is made of hard plastic, the front. And uh we're we're using different colours. Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours, and Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns Daniel Williamson: Mm-hmm. Winfred Griffith: and pictures and everything. But basically, different colours, bright colours not black, too dark. Fancy colours. Um then we have uh the lower part of the of the device. Uh which is of course um part of the back actually, because it's also titanium. You can see it also on the on the on the side view, that only this part is the front, and the rest of it, the under uh the under side uh of it, yeah, the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium, and has the titanium colour of course, the look. Um Daniel Williamson: Mm. Winfred Griffith: then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner, uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back, part of the titanium uh Leo Parker: Yeah, it's a double R_, Winfred Griffith: titanium Leo Parker: but Winfred Griffith: part. Yeah? Leo Parker: It's a double R_. Winfred Griffith: It's a double R_. Yeah the Leo Parker: But Winfred Griffith: logo Uh uh Leo Parker: it's Daniel Williamson: Yeah, Leo Parker: very difficult Daniel Williamson: alright. Winfred Griffith: it's Leo Parker: to to Winfred Griffith: difficult Leo Parker: draw Winfred Griffith: to draw Leo Parker: that in Winfred Griffith: so small, but Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: it's our double R_ uh Daniel Williamson: Okay. Winfred Griffith: logo is in there. Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner. Then we have the buttons. Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round I think oval will be better for Leo Parker: Oval Winfred Griffith: the Leo Parker: yeah. Winfred Griffith: for the d for the different Daniel Williamson: Alright. Winfred Griffith: uh channel buttons. So uh oval, n those are here. And then we have the m The m Leo Parker: Channel up and volume? Winfred Griffith: Yeah the the con the the the, yeah, the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here. Um um with kind of arrow shapes, which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh uh square buttons. And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on. We have the Okay button. Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: of Daniel Williamson: Mm-hmm. Winfred Griffith: the of the operators, of the channel and uh volume um changers. And then we've here the Menu button and the Daniel Williamson: Alright. Leo Parker: Menu for Winfred Griffith: And Leo Parker: the Winfred Griffith: the video Leo Parker: L_C_D_ Winfred Griffith: button. Leo Parker: screen. Winfred Griffith: The Gary Patton: Mm right. Daniel Williamson: So Winfred Griffith: Yeah. And of course this low part, this is the L_C_D_ screen. Daniel Williamson: 'Kay. Winfred Griffith: Uh this is what we made of it. You can make uh suggestions uh Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: if you want. Leo Parker: Well, at Daniel Williamson: if Leo Parker: the back Daniel Williamson: I look at it, the side the side view Winfred Griffith: Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: talk and then you can add Daniel Williamson: Oh Winfred Griffith: suggestions. Daniel Williamson: yeah alright. Winfred Griffith: Maybe I I don't want to Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick. Um okay I've had everything I guess on Leo Parker: No Winfred Griffith: the Leo Parker: the Winfred Griffith: front? Leo Parker: back. the Winfred Griffith: Yeah Leo Parker: logo Winfred Griffith: the back. Yeah. Leo Parker: and our uh l uh Winfred Griffith: We thought about Yeah, uh the back is of course totally titanium. And we thought about the logo big in the middle. Daniel Williamson: Mm-hmm. Winfred Griffith: Just so again the double R_. We have Gary Patton: Mm-hmm. Winfred Griffith: then the logo on front and on the back. Maybe that's Daniel Williamson: Okay. Winfred Griffith: too much but Leo Parker: No Winfred Griffith: you Leo Parker: I don't Winfred Griffith: have to Leo Parker: think Winfred Griffith: say uh say that if you think that way. And Leo Parker: And the Winfred Griffith: the company slogan, we thought in a kind of arc Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: shape Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: uh above the logo. That's basically what we were thinking about, and Daniel Williamson: Okay. Leo Parker: And about Daniel Williamson: W Leo Parker: the side view um This the front won't be as thick, but Daniel Williamson: Well I Leo Parker: again Daniel Williamson: see, but Leo Parker: th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to Winfred Griffith: Oh and uh Leo Parker: to Winfred Griffith: before Leo Parker: really Winfred Griffith: I forget. Leo Parker: uh Daniel Williamson: Well. Winfred Griffith: Yeah the the voice, Daniel Williamson: Yeah Winfred Griffith: of course, Daniel Williamson: I see Winfred Griffith: the voice Daniel Williamson: it. Winfred Griffith: recorder is uh at the bottom. Daniel Williamson: Yes. Winfred Griffith: And you can record it uh using, yeah, the the Daniel Williamson: When I Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: look Winfred Griffith: back Daniel Williamson: at Winfred Griffith: of Leo Parker: Well, Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: uh Leo Parker: it Winfred Griffith: f Leo Parker: won't Daniel Williamson: when Leo Parker: be visible. Daniel Williamson: I look at Winfred Griffith: w Daniel Williamson: this Winfred Griffith: device. Daniel Williamson: side view, Leo Parker: Mm? Daniel Williamson: I think w when I have that in my hand, it's terrible. If Winfred Griffith: Why? Daniel Williamson: if you look if if this this is thick, and this is thin, th th then Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: it that Winfred Griffith: it fits Daniel Williamson: it lies over your hands. Winfred Griffith: uh it Daniel Williamson: But Winfred Griffith: it it it fits the hand, mean Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: uh the the Gary Patton: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: the Gary Patton: I Winfred Griffith: the Gary Patton: agree. Daniel Williamson: what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle, so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker, so Leo Parker: If Daniel Williamson: th then Leo Parker: y Daniel Williamson: it falls over your hands. Leo Parker: If you handle a remote, you you usually don't have your hand straight Winfred Griffith: In Leo Parker: like Winfred Griffith: the middle Leo Parker: this. You Winfred Griffith: in the Leo Parker: you have it a bit Gary Patton: It depends Leo Parker: uh Gary Patton: on the size. Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: If it's kinda small, this is is great. But if it's it's larger, then you want to grab it. Daniel Williamson: And how Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: large is it? Gary Patton: Yeah, that's the question. Winfred Griffith: That's the question. Uh well Yeah. H What do you suggest I mean we do? This Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: was Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: Mike's prototype, and y you seemed to agreed on it. But now Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: you Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: have Daniel Williamson: sides Winfred Griffith: a totally Daniel Williamson: I Winfred Griffith: different. Daniel Williamson: haven't seen yet, uh? Leo Parker: Well, Winfred Griffith: The size? Yeah Leo Parker: they Winfred Griffith: well Leo Parker: lay there Winfred Griffith: the size Daniel Williamson: They the Leo Parker: all Winfred Griffith: doesn't Daniel Williamson: the Leo Parker: the time. Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: really Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: matter Daniel Williamson: the side Winfred Griffith: w I mean Daniel Williamson: view, Winfred Griffith: Side? Uh Daniel Williamson: we Winfred Griffith: oh Daniel Williamson: didn't Winfred Griffith: the side? Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: W we we he drew the s the Leo Parker: Yeah Winfred Griffith: side, Leo Parker: yeah. Winfred Griffith: but you d you weren't paying attention as usual. Well any case, we'll discuss it now. Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea. Gary Patton: Yeah, I agree with the L_C_D_ screen. You have it in your palm like this, and you can watch uh watch the screen. And if you have it li in the middle, Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Gary Patton: your hand might be over it. Winfred Griffith: But you you hold it like this. Leo Parker: Yeah you Winfred Griffith: You're not holding it like this Leo Parker: you don't Winfred Griffith: or something. Leo Parker: you don't grab it, you you Winfred Griffith: You, yeah, y How do you call it? Yeah. Well y y y you don't have it like this. You Daniel Williamson: No Winfred Griffith: have Daniel Williamson: no Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: no. Winfred Griffith: more like this. using buttons this way, or Gary Patton: Like Winfred Griffith: if you're Gary Patton: you're Winfred Griffith: right-handed, Gary Patton: holding your telephone. Winfred Griffith: this Daniel Williamson: Yep. Winfred Griffith: way. Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: So you Yeah. Gary Patton: Because Winfred Griffith: So Gary Patton: if you have a screen on it, you wanna look at your screen. Leo Parker: Hmm. Winfred Griffith: Yeah Leo Parker: That Winfred Griffith: well Leo Parker: way, it it falls into your hand. I think. Daniel Williamson: Okay. Gary Patton: Yeah, I Winfred Griffith: And Gary Patton: agree Winfred Griffith: maybe Gary Patton: on Winfred Griffith: you Gary Patton: this. Winfred Griffith: can you can grab it a bit higher, so Well Gary Patton: No, I don't think so. That's not uh Leo Parker: No but but Winfred Griffith: Well Gary Patton: the Winfred Griffith: the Gary Patton: point Winfred Griffith: the Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side, but Leo Parker: Well f for as far as I can see, three of us agree and Daniel Williamson: Yeah Leo Parker: only Daniel Williamson: well Leo Parker: Nils Daniel Williamson: uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it. Leo Parker: But you're Daniel Williamson, you can make the hard decisions. Daniel Williamson: Yes. So Winfred Griffith: If Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: necessary. Daniel Williamson: I c Winfred Griffith: But Daniel Williamson: I c Winfred Griffith: uh Daniel Williamson: Well, Winfred Griffith: are d Daniel Williamson: we'll Winfred Griffith: Can you Daniel Williamson: we Winfred Griffith: live Daniel Williamson: we'll Winfred Griffith: with Daniel Williamson: do Winfred Griffith: it? Daniel Williamson: it Winfred Griffith: Uh Daniel Williamson: like this. Leo Parker: Yeah? Daniel Williamson: Alright, Winfred Griffith: Y Daniel Williamson: if you think that that's the Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: way Winfred Griffith: y y Daniel Williamson: it Winfred Griffith: y Daniel Williamson: should Winfred Griffith: y you said it was totally uh unusable. Daniel Williamson: No Winfred Griffith: But do you Daniel Williamson: No, when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick But Winfred Griffith: But d you don't think this Daniel Williamson: In Winfred Griffith: is Daniel Williamson: the market Winfred Griffith: completely unusable Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: I guess. I think. Daniel Williamson: No not totally. Winfred Griffith: Not totally, well Daniel Williamson: For Gary Patton, I I wouldn't buy it. Let's Winfred Griffith: Yeah Daniel Williamson: say it Winfred Griffith: but Daniel Williamson: like Winfred Griffith: of course Daniel Williamson: that. Winfred Griffith: y you are also human. We have to Daniel Williamson: No Winfred Griffith: take uh every everyone into Gary Patton: And you might Winfred Griffith: account. Gary Patton: be Winfred Griffith: So Gary Patton: uh You might be target customer. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Well Daniel Williamson: Yes Winfred Griffith: uh who who Leo Parker: Mm. Daniel Williamson: but Winfred Griffith: else thinks like you? We don't know. Maybe Daniel Williamson: Yeah, we Winfred Griffith: a Daniel Williamson: don't Winfred Griffith: thousand Daniel Williamson: know, but Winfred Griffith: people, Daniel Williamson: that's Winfred Griffith: or Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: a million people. Daniel Williamson: that's that's that's more market research. So let it be like this at uh Winfred Griffith: Let Daniel Williamson: at this Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: moment. Winfred Griffith: be. Alright. Daniel Williamson: Okay? Winfred Griffith: So that's that. Uh any other suggestions? Daniel Williamson: No, I think it's great. Gary Patton: Yeah. Leo Parker: But what about the redesigning? Daniel Williamson: Comes to that later. Leo Parker: Okay. Daniel Williamson: Um you. Uh c You can uh Walter. Winfred Griffith: You're very personal Daniel Williamson: You can do the Winfred Griffith: again. Daniel Williamson: evaluation uh criteria on this? Gary Patton: Alright. Great. Daniel Williamson: That's more useful than just speaking. Gary Patton: Well, this is just a short intro. I'm Daniel Williamson: Yes. Gary Patton: going to do uh the ev evaluation. That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria. So I made a I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and Daniel Williamson: Mm-hmm. Gary Patton: trends. And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly. Well, I put some questions in a Word file. See if I can find them. Uh uh uh uh mm. Daniel Williamson: 'Kay. Gary Patton: Well Leo Parker: Hmm. Gary Patton: I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation, so uh I don't have to explain it. Uh the first question is, uh is the device good-looking? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly. Seventy five percent of them. So what do we think? Winfred Griffith: Well d we designed it, so of course we are very Leo Parker: Mm. Daniel Williamson: Yeah, Gary Patton: Yeah Daniel Williamson: we're we're not quite uh objective about Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Gary Patton: No, Daniel Williamson: this. Leo Parker: Well Gary Patton: I know, but Leo Parker: we designed it to be good-looking. Gary Patton: I have to uh evaluate it. So I have to take this questionnaire. Winfred Griffith: So and Daniel Williamson: To Winfred Griffith: we Daniel Williamson: the customers? Winfred Griffith: ha we have answer now? Daniel Williamson: To Gary Patton: Yeah Daniel Williamson: potential Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: customers who have to take this Gary Patton: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: questionnaire? Gary Patton: but I can't Daniel Williamson: Nei. Gary Patton: can Daniel Williamson: Oh no. Gary Patton: s Leo Parker: Hmm. Daniel Williamson: I know, I know, I know. But um Well we can go, uh because of the time, uh pretty quick through this. Uh do we find it good-looking? Well we think so. Winfred Griffith: I Daniel Williamson: Uh Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: Yeah, I Leo Parker: We Winfred Griffith: think Leo Parker: designed Gary Patton: but Winfred Griffith: it Leo Parker: it Gary Patton: uh, Leo Parker: to Gary Patton: you Leo Parker: be Gary Patton: know Leo Parker: good-looking, Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Leo Parker: so Gary Patton: We dis we di we designed it to be perfect. So But we have to be critic critical about it. And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end. So we we Daniel Williamson: Well, Gary Patton: know where we stand. Daniel Williamson: one. Gary Patton: 'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten. Daniel Williamson: Well so it's point four. Gary Patton: Right, so Daniel Williamson: Easy Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: to find Winfred Griffith: l well Daniel Williamson: t Winfred Griffith: let's start with the beginning, just one Gary Patton: Right. Winfred Griffith: by one. Gary Patton: Uh is it good-looking? Winfred Griffith: Well, I guess uh I think uh Daniel Williamson: Two. Winfred Griffith: it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course, uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything. That was our target audience of course. But it's also not completely um uh u unacceptable for older people I guess. Uh it's it's not f a device Gary Patton: The titanium Winfred Griffith: that Gary Patton: might be uh f Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Gary Patton: for Winfred Griffith: that's Gary Patton: older people. Winfred Griffith: that's uh for older people, it's it's more that classical Gary Patton: It you put Winfred Griffith: look. Gary Patton: uh Winfred Griffith: So Gary Patton: put a black front on it or something. Leo Parker: Hmm. Winfred Griffith: Uh no. I think Yeah they like black of course, but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also Uh I think it's also good for them, so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people. So I Gary Patton: Right. Winfred Griffith: think it's very good-looking and not only for youth uh young people. Leo Parker: I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long, because Gary Patton: Right. Leo Parker: I don't know Daniel Williamson: No. Leo Parker: how how many points there Daniel Williamson: I Leo Parker: are Daniel Williamson: totally Leo Parker: but Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Leo Parker: uh Daniel Williamson: agree. Winfred Griffith: the fourteen Daniel Williamson: We Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: Right, Winfred Griffith: yeah. Gary Patton: a number Daniel Williamson: we have Gary Patton: please. Daniel Williamson: to get get on, Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: go Winfred Griffith: Is Daniel Williamson: through Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: this. Winfred Griffith: easy to t change channels? Yeah well I think so. Gary Patton: So the last one is seven. Easy Leo Parker: Um, Gary Patton: to change channels? Daniel Williamson: No, Leo Parker: no Daniel Williamson: not Leo Parker: it's Daniel Williamson: false. Leo Parker: uh Daniel Williamson: It's one. Gary Patton: Oh, sorry. Yeah, right. Daniel Williamson: Well uh two? Gary Patton: Change channels? Daniel Williamson: Y Well we have to go through it. Winfred Griffith: I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made. Uh Gary Patton: Right. Winfred Griffith: So I Yeah. You How can you make it any easier? Gary Patton: The power, channel and volume Leo Parker: With Gary Patton: buttons Leo Parker: two Gary Patton: are easy Leo Parker: huge Gary Patton: accessible? Leo Parker: buttons. Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: Yep. Winfred Griffith: huge is a Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Two. Gary Patton: Two? Alright. The uh device is easy to find if you lose it? Daniel Williamson: Well, no. Winfred Griffith: D Daniel Williamson: We didn't Winfred Griffith: we Daniel Williamson: implement Winfred Griffith: d we don't Daniel Williamson: anything about that. Winfred Griffith: we don't have Leo Parker: Well Winfred Griffith: uh Leo Parker: it's Winfred Griffith: that Leo Parker: easier Winfred Griffith: s Leo Parker: to find than a a normal black one or something, because of the colour. But Daniel Williamson: Well six Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: then. Gary Patton: Six? Right. Winfred Griffith: Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost Daniel Williamson: Are Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: or so, Daniel Williamson: functions Winfred Griffith: but um um Daniel Williamson: easy to learn? Well w I we do want we have a l f Leo Parker: We have so few Daniel Williamson: f Leo Parker: functions, Daniel Williamson: less Leo Parker: so Daniel Williamson: of Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: an Gary Patton: Yeah, I agree. Daniel Williamson: And the device R_S_I_ sensitive? Leo Parker: Well, I should I Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Leo Parker: think two, because the voice recorder Daniel Williamson: Ah. Leo Parker: is n not Gary Patton: Yeah. Leo Parker: self learning. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Yeah. Gary Patton: Alright. Winfred Griffith: Mm? Gary Patton: Two? Daniel Williamson: Yeah, but just do some We Gary Patton: Yeah Daniel Williamson: we Winfred Griffith: Are we take Daniel Williamson: I th Winfred Griffith: too much Daniel Williamson: I th Winfred Griffith: time? Daniel Williamson: I think this is too time consuming. Uh not Gary Patton: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: not towards Gary Patton: I agree. Daniel Williamson: you, Gary Patton: No. Daniel Williamson: but towards this all. Th Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: this is Gary Patton: Right, Daniel Williamson: We you have Gary Patton: R_ Daniel Williamson: to Gary Patton: R_S_I_ Daniel Williamson: put Gary Patton: sensitive? Daniel Williamson: it to the customers. Gary Patton: R_S_I_ sensitive? Daniel Williamson: Uh well well a bit, so four. Gary Patton: Four. Um Daniel Williamson: Yes. Winfred Griffith: Yeah, very much. One. Daniel Williamson: One. And features included also one. And One. Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking. Uh we still think so. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Device fancy Winfred Griffith: And I Daniel Williamson: feeling. Winfred Griffith: think fancy-feeling Daniel Williamson: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: too, because of the Daniel Williamson: cool Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: titanium Daniel Williamson: man. Winfred Griffith: back. Yeah. Gary Patton: Right. Daniel Williamson: Are there enough technology? Yeah Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: well also we have two. Gary Patton: Yeah, that's great. Leo Parker: The Daniel Williamson: to use? Yes we have not many buttons. Winfred Griffith: So well maybe two Gary Patton: Well, Winfred Griffith: because Leo Parker: Two Daniel Williamson: Two, Winfred Griffith: of the voice Gary Patton: with Daniel Williamson: three. Winfred Griffith: recorder. Leo Parker: two. Gary Patton: the uh Three. Leo Parker: T Daniel Williamson: Are Winfred Griffith: F Daniel Williamson: the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented? Well in our covers, Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: in our fronts. So Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: yes, one. Winfred Griffith: One or two. Daniel Williamson: Is Leo Parker: One Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: the material Leo Parker: or two, another Gary Patton: Nah Daniel Williamson: attractive? Leo Parker: two. Gary Patton: f four I think. Winfred Griffith: Four? Gary Patton: If you look at this Winfred Griffith: Well, it doesn't really resemble any fruit, uh that's true. Gary Patton: No. Winfred Griffith: But but we have the the the the the Daniel Williamson: Oh okay. Winfred Griffith: sparkly fruity Leo Parker: Well Winfred Griffith: colours Leo Parker: three. Winfred Griffith: of course. Gary Patton: Three, Daniel Williamson: Okay. Gary Patton: alright. Winfred Griffith: And you can also have front with uh with Gary Patton: Yeah, that's true. Daniel Williamson: Is Winfred Griffith: fruit Daniel Williamson: the material Gary Patton: But Winfred Griffith: on Leo Parker: Mm. Daniel Williamson: attractive? Well Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: the titanium Winfred Griffith: it. Daniel Williamson: is strong, and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft. So I would say at least two. Gary Patton: Right. Daniel Williamson: Okay. Well Yeah. Leo Parker: This is the last meeting? Daniel Williamson: Yes, but we Gary Patton: The Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: average Daniel Williamson: we have to design Gary Patton: will uh Daniel Williamson: much Gary Patton: come later. Daniel Williamson: more, because there was some irritating account manager coming to Gary Patton. Winfred Griffith: I Daniel Williamson: Um Winfred Griffith: knew things uh were going uh Daniel Williamson: Oh. Winfred Griffith: too smoothly. There had Daniel Williamson: Uh Winfred Griffith: to be some kind of trouble Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: along Daniel Williamson: Yes. Winfred Griffith: the way. Daniel Williamson: Well, look at the costs at this point. Winfred Griffith: My god. Daniel Williamson: I had to fit it in. Gary Patton: It has to go to twelve, right? Daniel Williamson: I twelve and a half. Gary Patton: Twelve and a half. Daniel Williamson: So Well what costs a lot? The sample spea costs four. Winfred Griffith: The what? The Daniel Williamson: The sample speaker, Gary Patton: Out. Daniel Williamson: the s sensor. Gary Patton: That's easy. Kick it out. Daniel Williamson: Kick it out. Leo Parker: The what? Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: We have to go to twelve and a Gary Patton: The Daniel Williamson: half. Gary Patton: speaker. Daniel Williamson: The speaker costs Leo Parker: Oh. Daniel Williamson: far, by far the most. Winfred Griffith: Yeah w Gary Patton: That's some wrong Winfred Griffith: tha that's Gary Patton: info, Winfred Griffith: uh Gary Patton: man. Winfred Griffith: that's a bit an optional Daniel Williamson: It Winfred Griffith: option. Daniel Williamson: it isn't worth it. Winfred Griffith: No. Gary Patton: No. Winfred Griffith: No, d Daniel Williamson: We Winfred Griffith: th Daniel Williamson: could make Winfred Griffith: No. Daniel Williamson: two Gary Patton: It's Daniel Williamson: different Gary Patton: uh Daniel Williamson: versions, one with and one without. But for Gary Patton: It's Daniel Williamson: this Gary Patton: just extra. Kick it out. Daniel Williamson: So, zero. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Then we go to fourteen point six. Gary Patton: What more? Daniel Williamson: Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually. Winfred Griffith: No. Gary Patton: Batteries are uh Daniel Williamson: L_C_ Gary Patton: quite Daniel Williamson: three? Yeah hand dynamo? Y t come on, Leo Parker: Um Gary Patton: Uh no, Daniel Williamson: w Gary Patton: no Daniel Williamson: a remote Gary Patton: no Daniel Williamson: control Winfred Griffith: N Gary Patton: no. Daniel Williamson: has a battery. Winfred Griffith: Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think. Because Leo Parker: Well well Winfred Griffith: uh Leo Parker: why why why should we use a advanced chip? Daniel Williamson: Well be for the Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: L_C_D_ Winfred Griffith: L_C_D_ Daniel Williamson: uh you Winfred Griffith: screen. Daniel Williamson: had said. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Leo Parker: Yeah? Gary Patton: Hmm. Leo Parker: Can't we do that with a regular chip? Winfred Griffith: No. Leo Parker: Why not? Winfred Griffith: Because uh that uh y Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: because Daniel Williamson: what what's the difference between Winfred Griffith: my information Daniel Williamson: simple Winfred Griffith: says Daniel Williamson: and regular? Winfred Griffith: it. Huh? Daniel Williamson: What's the difference between a simple Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: and Leo Parker: Regular Daniel Williamson: a regular chip? Leo Parker: is normal. Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: And simple? Winfred Griffith: Uh Leo Parker: Simple. Winfred Griffith: well Daniel Williamson: Nothing. Winfred Griffith: yeah I I read something about it, but Leo Parker: Elementary. Daniel Williamson: Well? Winfred Griffith: Yeah, I Daniel Williamson: Your part. Winfred Griffith: I read something about it, but it wasn't very clear. I d I didn't in include it in my report. Daniel Williamson: What happens if we do Winfred Griffith: Single Well you have to use a chip. So Well you have Daniel Williamson: How Winfred Griffith: to Daniel Williamson: much Winfred Griffith: use Daniel Williamson: do we Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: win? Winfred Griffith: advanced Leo Parker: We we Winfred Griffith: chip, Leo Parker: we Daniel Williamson: One. Winfred Griffith: if you have Leo Parker: Why? Winfred Griffith: the L_C_D_ screen. Leo Parker: We have very little options furthermore, for the Winfred Griffith: But Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: if you have a regular chip, you can't have the L_C_D_ screen. Leo Parker: Uh well we have to put Gary Patton: Yeah, Leo Parker: that in. Gary Patton: we need to have the the L_C_D_ Winfred Griffith: That that's Gary Patton: screen. Winfred Griffith: a fact. Daniel Williamson: Well, Winfred Griffith: Uh Daniel Williamson: we could say, well this special colour, that Gary Patton: No Daniel Williamson: isn't that that isn't there, because the the fronts they will buy it. The special colour. Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: Yeah, but it's Gary Patton: but Winfred Griffith: only Leo Parker: Nah. Winfred Griffith: one half. Gary Patton: No, Winfred Griffith: Uh Gary Patton: that's Winfred Griffith: it d Gary Patton: n Winfred Griffith: it doesn't Gary Patton: It's not relevant. Daniel Williamson: Yeah, Leo Parker: Yeah, you must change Daniel Williamson: then Leo Parker: the Daniel Williamson: you Leo Parker: chip Daniel Williamson: s then Leo Parker: uh Daniel Williamson: you only Leo Parker: back. Daniel Williamson: have one half left. Leo Parker: You Gary Patton: Yeah. Leo Parker: must change the chip back, Nils. Daniel Williamson: Uh yeah. Winfred Griffith: But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen. Gary Patton: No, Then the whole concept is uh Winfred Griffith: Yeah, I know but that's what my information says. I di I didn't uh Leo Parker: Hmm. Winfred Griffith: put Gary Patton: You Winfred Griffith: uh the advanced chip Leo Parker: No Winfred Griffith: in there for fun. Gary Patton: You Leo Parker: we Gary Patton: can make Leo Parker: oh Gary Patton: you Winfred Griffith: You Gary Patton: can Winfred Griffith: have Gary Patton: make Winfred Griffith: to use Gary Patton: it cheaper. Winfred Griffith: it. Gary Patton: But if you don't sell Leo Parker: You Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Leo Parker: you we have an advanced chip-on-print, and we have an L_C_ display. I think that's Daniel Williamson: Yeah? Leo Parker: a bit double. Y Daniel Williamson: No, Leo Parker: we don't need both. Daniel Williamson: the advanced chip is needed to Winfred Griffith: For Daniel Williamson: have Winfred Griffith: the L_C_D_ Daniel Williamson: an L_C_D_ Winfred Griffith: screen. Daniel Williamson: display. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Yeah. Leo Parker: Says. Daniel Williamson: Says, his Uh that was in the second meeting, I think. Winfred Griffith: Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again? Because we you Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: have Daniel Williamson: I Winfred Griffith: uncurved Daniel Williamson: I did single curve to Well you said s double Leo Parker: I? Daniel Williamson: curved, uh he, Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already. We can Gary Patton: No Daniel Williamson: also Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: make it flat. Gary Patton: no Winfred Griffith: But Gary Patton: no Winfred Griffith: what Gary Patton: no. Winfred Griffith: what Daniel Williamson: But Winfred Griffith: did what do n Sorry, but What do they mean with the curves? Is th Daniel Williamson: Curved? Yes, Winfred Griffith: Is this Daniel Williamson: that's Winfred Griffith: a Daniel Williamson: curved. Winfred Griffith: curve? One curve? Yeah, this Daniel Williamson: Yes. Winfred Griffith: is actually two curves, yeah. It's Daniel Williamson: No, Winfred Griffith: how Daniel Williamson: it's Winfred Griffith: you Daniel Williamson: one Winfred Griffith: It's Daniel Williamson: curve. Winfred Griffith: how you look at Leo Parker: One Winfred Griffith: it. Leo Parker: curve. Daniel Williamson: One curve, simple. Winfred Griffith: Well then we have a huge problem I think. W t we can never get uh below the Daniel Williamson: We Winfred Griffith: twelve Daniel Williamson: have a big Winfred Griffith: and a Daniel Williamson: financial Winfred Griffith: half. Daniel Williamson: problem. Leo Parker: Well we make it more expensive to buy. Daniel Williamson: Well, then we have two dollars less profit. Come on, if we if we if we make this fifty million, they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us, so uh Gary Patton: If if you make people brand-aware, they are willing to pay more. But Winfred Griffith: But uh I Gary Patton: Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back. If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy. Leo Parker: Yeah or we could Gary Patton: If you if Leo Parker: replace Gary Patton: you make it cool Leo Parker: it Gary Patton: to have Daniel Williamson: By the way, we also have this one. Gary Patton: Oh, that's just great. Daniel Williamson: Oh, costs nothing. Gary Patton: Oh, Daniel Williamson: That's nice. Gary Patton: alright. Daniel Williamson: Plastic Winfred Griffith: Hey but uh Daniel Williamson: is Winfred Griffith: I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen, it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing. Daniel Williamson: Yes, but I just got it. Winfred Griffith: Well Leo Parker: Why Winfred Griffith: that's pretty Leo Parker: why Winfred Griffith: uh Leo Parker: don't we Winfred Griffith: l Leo Parker: replace Gary Patton: That is Leo Parker: the titanium Gary Patton: pretty stupid. Winfred Griffith: N Leo Parker: with Winfred Griffith: not Leo Parker: uh Winfred Griffith: very practical. Leo Parker: plastic Winfred Griffith: Well Leo Parker: coloured titanium, uh Daniel Williamson: Who? Leo Parker: titanium-coloured plastic? Daniel Williamson: You want to dump the titanium? Leo Parker: Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper. Daniel Williamson: And make all plastic, then we ha then we're there. Winfred Griffith: But I'm n I don't agree. Leo Parker: But Winfred Griffith: I think Leo Parker: then we we've got to uh Daniel Williamson: Th then Leo Parker: run Daniel Williamson: you Leo Parker: through Daniel Williamson: have Leo Parker: the Daniel Williamson: a Leo Parker: eval Daniel Williamson: ugly, Leo Parker: evaluation Daniel Williamson: stupid, Leo Parker: process again. Daniel Williamson: l ugly looking, dumb remote Leo Parker: Ah no Daniel Williamson: that Leo Parker: no. Daniel Williamson: that no-one would buy. Leo Parker: It's not ugly looking. The looks remain the same. Daniel Williamson: No, I don't think so. Gary Patton: Y Leo Parker: Well, I Winfred Griffith: I Leo Parker: do Winfred Griffith: think Leo Parker: think so. Winfred Griffith: the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and Daniel Williamson: Yes. Winfred Griffith: the and the Daniel Williamson: And the feel, Leo Parker: feel. Daniel Williamson: and th that it is strong, and Winfred Griffith: And also the the older people will like it because of that. And Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: because i Gary Patton: I Winfred Griffith: Alright Gary Patton: agree. Winfred Griffith: it's not our target audience, but it's it's useful Daniel Williamson: We still Winfred Griffith: if it's uh Daniel Williamson: we had to focus Winfred Griffith: important for old Daniel Williamson: to Winfred Griffith: people. Daniel Williamson: get more people Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: from the younger group, but not lose the one Winfred Griffith: I think the titanium is very important. Leo Parker: Yeah alright but then we we Winfred Griffith: Yeah Leo Parker: won't Winfred Griffith: we have a Leo Parker: get Winfred Griffith: problem, Leo Parker: there. Winfred Griffith: yeah. W But you can better, yeah, dump the L_C_D_ screen Leo Parker: We Winfred Griffith: then. Leo Parker: can dump the special colour. We l we use plastic. And plastic is already in colour I think. Gary Patton: I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen. Winfred Griffith: Well what else? W I Leo Parker: No, Winfred Griffith: mean Leo Parker: nothing. Winfred Griffith: uh Gary Patton: Or you shou Leo Parker: Amen. Gary Patton: It's Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen. But I think you could better change Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Gary Patton: uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: than lose the L_C_D_ screen. Because you have lots of functions in it too. Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: well yeah. Alright. Daniel Williamson: Why can't Winfred Griffith: I Daniel Williamson: I Winfred Griffith: agree Leo Parker: But Winfred Griffith: with that. So we u we use uh Unfortunately. Um. Daniel Williamson: I'll put in the report Winfred Griffith: Titanium-coloured Daniel Williamson: we that we think that fourteen Winfred Griffith: plastic. Daniel Williamson: point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these Gary Patton: Yeah, I Daniel Williamson: days. Gary Patton: agree. Winfred Griffith: So titanium-coloured plastic for the back. Daniel Williamson: I I'll talk to the managers. Leo Parker: No no no no. W Titanium stays there. Daniel Williamson: Titanium, I thi I think this this is this is e really good re Winfred Griffith: Yeah Gary Patton: Osl Winfred Griffith: this is Daniel Williamson: remote. Winfred Griffith: good, but it it's not Daniel Williamson: But Winfred Griffith: good enough. So we have to use the ditch the titanium, I'm afraid. Daniel Williamson: Ah those Leo Parker: Well Daniel Williamson: those account managers, what do th d what do they know? Come on. Winfred Griffith: What Daniel Williamson: Riot. Winfred Griffith: do we Well what do we know? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really Daniel Williamson: Yes, Winfred Griffith: consider the costs. Daniel Williamson: yes. Winfred Griffith: So Leo Parker: No because we did not know anything about Gary Patton: If Leo Parker: it. Winfred Griffith: Yeah Gary Patton: you Daniel Williamson: One Gary Patton: don't Winfred Griffith: al Daniel Williamson: and Gary Patton: have Winfred Griffith: alright, Daniel Williamson: a Gary Patton: the Daniel Williamson: half Gary Patton: money, Daniel Williamson: Euros. Winfred Griffith: yeah. Gary Patton: you can't Winfred Griffith: But Gary Patton: make it. Daniel Williamson: Hmm? Winfred Griffith: we Gary Patton: So Winfred Griffith: have Gary Patton: s Winfred Griffith: to deal with it now. So Gary Patton: If you don't have the money, you can't make it. So this is too expensive. Daniel Williamson: So? Winfred Griffith: So Gary Patton: So we have to make it cheaper. Winfred Griffith: Titanium gone and add plastic. Gary Patton: Right. Leo Parker: Yeah, but then we've got money left. Winfred Griffith: And on plastic times two and then we uh are there? Daniel Williamson: Well, no it's just uh all plastic. Winfred Griffith: No Daniel Williamson: Well alright. Winfred Griffith: No Daniel Williamson: Huh. Winfred Griffith: yeah well Oh six. A lot of plastic, Gary Patton: It's Winfred Griffith: yeah. Gary Patton: just free, man. Daniel Williamson: Four. So Winfred Griffith: No two for the to make it clear. Daniel Williamson: But then we can add the special colour? Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: As we have money over uh left. Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: And we still Leo Parker: W Daniel Williamson: have money left. What do we want, guys? Winfred Griffith: I want gold plating. No no Gary Patton: Yeah right. Winfred Griffith: um Gary Patton: I want chrome. Leo Parker: Well I think uh the case is double curved then. Daniel Williamson: Yes. Leo Parker: Because Winfred Griffith: We have Leo Parker: you y have that Winfred Griffith: we Leo Parker: curve Winfred Griffith: have to Leo Parker: and Winfred Griffith: uh Leo Parker: you have Winfred Griffith: fill Daniel Williamson: Y Oh Leo Parker: that Daniel Williamson: no. Leo Parker: curve. Winfred Griffith: W Leo Parker: Yeah Winfred Griffith: we ha Gary Patton: Well, Leo Parker: well Gary Patton: th that Leo Parker: uh Gary Patton: that Daniel Williamson: Alright. Gary Patton: is the problem. Winfred Griffith: No no no, but th that's Daniel Williamson: Safe. Winfred Griffith: not f um Leo Parker: Well y we have curves Winfred Griffith: Well Leo Parker: in all Winfred Griffith: you Leo Parker: directions. Winfred Griffith: can you can double curve, if you don't have titanium. And that we dropped, so it Daniel Williamson: So Winfred Griffith: it can be done. Daniel Williamson: alright. Winfred Griffith: But it's pretty funny. We we do want to reach twelve point five. But it Daniel Williamson: Finance? Leo Parker: I mean, Winfred Griffith: isn't bad to to to stay Leo Parker: this Winfred Griffith: at eleven. Leo Parker: this ain't titanium, but it looks like it. Winfred Griffith: We Daniel Williamson: Well, Winfred Griffith: get more salary, Daniel Williamson: guys? Winfred Griffith: if we make Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: if cheaper Daniel Williamson: Guys? Winfred Griffith: than twelve uh Daniel Williamson: We Winfred Griffith: twelve Daniel Williamson: have Winfred Griffith: and Daniel Williamson: to Winfred Griffith: a Gary Patton: Shoot. Winfred Griffith: half. Daniel Williamson: dump our titanium, and we'll hate the managers for that, but now we're going to Winfred Griffith: Objection. Daniel Williamson: evaluate our project, of uh project, Leo Parker: Pro project. Daniel Williamson: project. Well, satisfaction on for example, are we satisfactory about our creativity? Winfred Griffith: Well I can't get no satisfaction, but uh I think it's uh Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best, yeah. Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: I think it's terrible Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: that we got uh those costs at the last moment. Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: Yeah, Gary Patton too. Daniel Williamson: That's really bad. Winfred Griffith: Its it's Daniel Williamson: But Winfred Griffith: uh ridiculous actually, Leo Parker: And Daniel Williamson: that Leo Parker: uh Winfred Griffith: but Daniel Williamson: that Leo Parker: unrealistic. Daniel Williamson: that's that, yeah that's a reason, but also for our creativity. We had um nice design, and then you get the cost, and you had to dump all your creativity. Leo Parker: Well Gary Patton: Right. Leo Parker: we we we used our creativity, but we just had to adapt it to the costs. Winfred Griffith: Which isn't very practical, but Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Leo Parker: Nei. Winfred Griffith: that's the way. Leo Parker: Uh no. Daniel Williamson: Well, Winfred Griffith: Uh-huh. Daniel Williamson: alright. Uh leadership next. Leo Parker: Terrible. Daniel Williamson: Uh teamwork? Gary Patton: Leadership. Leo Parker: Leadership? Gary Patton: Well Leo Parker: Well Gary Patton: it's It was very democratic. Daniel Williamson: Uh yeah Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: well I think Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: so also. I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time, so Gary Patton: Yeah yeah. Daniel Williamson: Well the managers were terrible. So, with their all their useless requirements. But o alright, Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: the teamwork? Winfred Griffith: uh they they didn't think of the requirements. It's the requirements of the user, uh I guess. Daniel Williamson: No they said, oh we won't d uh we won't uh use Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: teletext, uh we won't use the D_V_D_. Winfred Griffith: Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications. Daniel Williamson: Alright, teamwork? Gary Patton: Well Daniel Williamson: Well great I think. Leo Parker: Right Gary Patton: Yeah, Leo Parker: yeah. Gary Patton: think so too. Daniel Williamson: Uh well what do you, what did you think about the SMARTboard? Winfred Griffith: It was a complete disaster. No Gary Patton: Yeah, I Winfred Griffith: Uh Daniel Williamson: Well Gary Patton: don't Winfred Griffith: it it it Gary Patton: like Leo Parker: No, Winfred Griffith: uh Gary Patton: it. Leo Parker: that's Winfred Griffith: it is Leo Parker: a SMARTboard, Winfred Griffith: uh Gary Patton: Yeah? Leo Parker: and that's a digital pen. Daniel Williamson: It's Leo Parker: Or Daniel Williamson: also Leo Parker: not? Daniel Williamson: a It's both Winfred Griffith: No Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: it's Daniel Williamson: SMARTboards. Winfred Griffith: other way around. That's the SMARTboard. That's Daniel Williamson: I liked Winfred Griffith: the digital Daniel Williamson: this Winfred Griffith: panel. Daniel Williamson: SMARTboard, Gary Patton: This Daniel Williamson: but I hated Gary Patton: this Daniel Williamson: that one. Gary Patton: this isn't a SMARTboard, Daniel Williamson: Well it's Gary Patton: right? Daniel Williamson: both a SMARTboard. Winfred Griffith: That's that's the smart Gary Patton: Yeah right. B but you This is Leo Parker: Oh Gary Patton: just Leo Parker: they're both Gary Patton: a large Leo Parker: SMARTboards. Gary Patton: t large television. Daniel Williamson: No. Gary Patton: You u you use the Winfred Griffith: A televi Daniel Williamson: It's both Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: a SMARTboard, but this one is used for a desktop, and that one is used to to Gary Patton: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: draw. Gary Patton: but you ca This is just a beamer function. And here, on this one, you can uh draw the pictures and things Daniel Williamson: Well, Gary Patton: like that. Daniel Williamson: wi w which Gary Patton: But Daniel Williamson: one did you like? Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Gary Patton: That one. Winfred Griffith: Left or right? Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: That one. Gary Patton: That one isn't accurate. It just Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Gary Patton: doesn't work. You can Leo Parker: But I I think this is meant by the digital pen. Daniel Williamson: Yes. Th that is so. Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: Well Gary Patton: but Winfred Griffith: I didn't Gary Patton: I Winfred Griffith: use Gary Patton: think Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: We're now Gary Patton: there's Winfred Griffith: uh Daniel Williamson: talking Gary Patton: a big Daniel Williamson: about Gary Patton: distinction Daniel Williamson: the SMARTboards. Gary Patton: between the these th I don't need a SMARTboard. Winfred Griffith: Nei It Leo Parker: Well Winfred Griffith: it's much m Leo Parker: we we used that one, Gary Patton: Yeah, Leo Parker: and Gary Patton: but Leo Parker: we needed Gary Patton: give Leo Parker: it. I Gary Patton: Gary Patton Leo Parker: think. Gary Patton: a beamer. That's uh that's much Leo Parker: Yeah Gary Patton: uh Leo Parker: alright, Gary Patton: much Leo Parker: but Gary Patton: cheaper. Daniel Williamson: Or install a laptop to a beamer, or have this one standing here in an I I like it. Gary Patton: Right. Leo Parker: Yeah I like Daniel Williamson: Okay, Leo Parker: that Daniel Williamson: alright. Leo Parker: one, but that one is terrible. Winfred Griffith: But uh you can uh I I sent it about three times now. Uh a green uh board with uh chalk is much Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: more useful than that Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: thing. Daniel Williamson: Yeah, it is. Winfred Griffith: The simple uh Daniel Williamson: So Winfred Griffith: sch Gary Patton: I agree. Winfred Griffith: school board. Daniel Williamson: And uh the digi the digital pen? Did uh did you like that one? Gary Patton: No. Winfred Griffith: I I didn't use it. I wrote things down but I didn't Daniel Williamson: I used Winfred Griffith: import Daniel Williamson: it Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: into my Daniel Williamson: just Winfred Griffith: laptop. Daniel Williamson: to check it out, but uh Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: You you Winfred Griffith: That's Daniel Williamson: can't Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: send that to anyone, Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: because you Gary Patton: It Daniel Williamson: you've Gary Patton: isn't Daniel Williamson: scrabbled Gary Patton: practical. Daniel Williamson: something on a page for yourself, Gary Patton: Right. Daniel Williamson: and then you're going to send it, yeah. Well, no. Winfred Griffith: W But also y you write things down. And i you can also bring your your Gary Patton: Your Winfred Griffith: your Gary Patton: notepad. Winfred Griffith: note block. So Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: what's the what's Daniel Williamson: It's, Winfred Griffith: the Daniel Williamson: no, Winfred Griffith: th Daniel Williamson: it Winfred Griffith: what's Daniel Williamson: it's useless. Winfred Griffith: the point of importing it Leo Parker: Well Winfred Griffith: into Leo Parker: I I drew this. Mm. And I made a mistake. But it it would have been uh useful, if Daniel Williamson: Yes. Leo Parker: I I could show this on the screen. Winfred Griffith: Yeah alright. Daniel Williamson: For Winfred Griffith: For Daniel Williamson: drawings, Winfred Griffith: drawings, but Daniel Williamson: yes. Leo Parker: Yeah Winfred Griffith: not Leo Parker: for drawings. Winfred Griffith: for personal notes. I think that's not very Leo Parker: N notes mm. Winfred Griffith: Uh I mean you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course Daniel Williamson: But Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: if Gary Patton: it Winfred Griffith: you Gary Patton: might Winfred Griffith: have Gary Patton: be Winfred Griffith: a lot Gary Patton: useful Winfred Griffith: of paper Gary Patton: for drawings. Winfred Griffith: If Gary Patton: I Winfred Griffith: you've Gary Patton: I agree Leo Parker: Mm. Gary Patton: on that. Winfred Griffith: If Daniel Williamson: But Winfred Griffith: you've Daniel Williamson: for notes, it i you you have to put that in a strict Uh you have to put a name, standard date, and all those things. And notes uh for a meeting are very strict. So if you uh were to write them down for yourself, and then put that in your computer, you still have to type it over to Word. Gary Patton: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: So it Gary Patton: right. Daniel Williamson: doesn't d doesn't have any Gary Patton: That Stefan Winfred Griffith: Yeah Gary Patton: use. Winfred Griffith: I understand. But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork. You can't It's not very uh ni Gary Patton: No, Winfred Griffith: Yeah Gary Patton: I Winfred Griffith: well Gary Patton: don't think so. Winfred Griffith: a lot of documents Gary Patton: It's Winfred Griffith: are Yeah. Gary Patton: it's only useful if you have to Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: draw something. Leo Parker: it's really useful, I think. Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Yep. Alright. Winfred Griffith: Mu Daniel Williamson: Um Winfred Griffith: Yeah right. Daniel Williamson: etcetera? Well uh the laptops? Gary Patton: Yeah, great. Daniel Williamson: Of course Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: great. Gary Patton: Yeah. Leo Parker: Hmm. Winfred Griffith: Can we keep them? Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Uh. Daniel Williamson: You can. B by my Gary Patton: Wireless uh wireless Leo Parker: Thanks Project Gary Patton: things. Leo Parker: Manager. Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Other uh things we used here? I hated the cameras, I hated the microphones. Gary Patton: Well Daniel Williamson: But Gary Patton: these Daniel Williamson: No Gary Patton: chairs, Winfred Griffith: Well Gary Patton: man. Winfred Griffith: did you really uh Gary Patton: Really great. Winfred Griffith: Did you really take uh take those in account? I Daniel Williamson: No. Winfred Griffith: half of time I didn't Daniel Williamson: No. Winfred Griffith: notice they were there. Daniel Williamson: I Winfred Griffith: So Daniel Williamson: haven't looked w one time directly at the camera. I don't care about it. Leo Parker: Well Winfred Griffith: But Leo Parker: I Winfred Griffith: we Leo Parker: did. Winfred Griffith: shouldn't talk about that. Because this Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: is Daniel Williamson: w Winfred Griffith: a Daniel Williamson: why Winfred Griffith: realistic Daniel Williamson: not? Winfred Griffith: environment. Daniel Williamson: Uh etcetera We Winfred Griffith: Right. Daniel Williamson: N new Winfred Griffith: Okay. Daniel Williamson: ideas found? What kind of ideas for n a future schedule What? For future um Leo Parker: Well Daniel Williamson: meetings you have Leo Parker: I missed Daniel Williamson: got? Leo Parker: uh the option to uh Gary Patton: Communicate Leo Parker: to email, Gary Patton: in between. Leo Parker: yeah. Email Gary Patton: Yeah, right. Daniel Williamson: Chatting Leo Parker: or chat Winfred Griffith: But Daniel Williamson: and Winfred Griffith: yeah. Leo Parker: or Daniel Williamson: emailing. Leo Parker: something. Winfred Griffith: W Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with. So Leo Parker: Yeah alright, but that's one n new idea. Gary Patton: Yeah, I agree. Daniel Williamson: Well, new ideas found by this. Not. Nothing. Gary Patton: Well, Daniel Williamson: We Gary Patton: more Daniel Williamson: don't Gary Patton: more Daniel Williamson: want this. Gary Patton: information in the beginning. Daniel Williamson: We hate this. Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: That's Daniel Williamson: Digital pen is useless. Leo Parker: No Daniel Williamson: So Leo Parker: it isn't. Daniel Williamson: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: Well, Daniel Williamson: for drawings. Winfred Griffith: for drawing for drawings. Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Leo Parker: So it isn't useless. Daniel Williamson: But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings, because Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things, I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive, I'm not going to uh Gary Patton: For Winfred Griffith: No Gary Patton: people who uh sketch th the whole day, I can Leo Parker: Yeah. Gary Patton: imagine that it's useful. Daniel Williamson: Well th Winfred Griffith: But it's Daniel Williamson: then Winfred Griffith: still Daniel Williamson: still Winfred Griffith: an expensive Daniel Williamson: they they they Winfred Griffith: uh expensive Daniel Williamson: should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop. Because this is huge Gary Patton: Well Daniel Williamson: uh Leo Parker: Well Daniel Williamson: this Leo Parker: you Daniel Williamson: v Leo Parker: you Daniel Williamson: very Leo Parker: can't you Daniel Williamson: very Leo Parker: can't Daniel Williamson: uh Leo Parker: draw Daniel Williamson: expensive Leo Parker: on a laptop Daniel Williamson: paper. Leo Parker: like you like you paint of or draw with your hand. Gary Patton: Yeah, I agree. Leo Parker: With Winfred Griffith: But Leo Parker: the mouse Winfred Griffith: if w Leo Parker: it is Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Leo Parker: No. Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Well and Gary Patton: Mouse Winfred Griffith: if Gary Patton: is ju just isn't working if you're sketching. Leo Parker: Uh indeed. Winfred Griffith: And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone. But suppose it was working correctly, what uh would it be useful then, if it wasn't off all the time? Daniel Williamson: Well no. I Winfred Griffith: A Daniel Williamson: hated to draw like that. You you can't Winfred Griffith: Really? Daniel Williamson: draw anything uh neat. Gary Patton: Yeah, but he's saying if it is correct, and you can draw very, Winfred Griffith: Anything you want. Any b b Gary Patton: yeah, Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: I Gary Patton: very Winfred Griffith: L li Daniel Williamson: if Gary Patton: precise Daniel Williamson: it Winfred Griffith: li Daniel Williamson: if it would be perfect following. Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Well Winfred Griffith: Well Daniel Williamson: th Winfred Griffith: it Daniel Williamson: th Winfred Griffith: isn't, but Daniel Williamson: then Winfred Griffith: maybe Daniel Williamson: still Gary Patton: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: that thing Gary Patton: mu Daniel Williamson: it's Winfred Griffith: is uh is Daniel Williamson: it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green Winfred Griffith: Yeah, Daniel Williamson: uh Winfred Griffith: board, Leo Parker: Yeah, Winfred Griffith: a school Leo Parker: but Winfred Griffith: board, Leo Parker: but Winfred Griffith: yeah. Leo Parker: then you can Daniel Williamson: school board. Leo Parker: uh save it in instantly, and Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Leo Parker: and and Daniel Williamson: Yep. Winfred Griffith: I it Leo Parker: re-use Gary Patton: It Winfred Griffith: has Gary Patton: saves Winfred Griffith: It Leo Parker: it, Gary Patton: time. Winfred Griffith: is Leo Parker: and Winfred Griffith: useful. Leo Parker: uh Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Yeah yeah. Winfred Griffith: This uh if it works correct, maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning. So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work, Daniel Williamson: Yep. Winfred Griffith: I think then it's pretty useful. Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room. And then you can save it immediately. Daniel Williamson: Well, they are now. Leo Parker: Hmm. Gary Patton: Celebration. Daniel Williamson: It is. So, Winfred Griffith: Did you type Daniel Williamson: congratulations Winfred Griffith: that? Leo Parker: Hmm. Daniel Williamson: crew. Leo Parker: Celebration. Daniel Williamson: Se Gary Patton: Well Leo Parker: Yeah, we can go to the bar and uh with our Daniel Williamson: Finally my beer. Leo Parker: newly earned money. Daniel Williamson: Well, that's it I think. Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Um I don't know how long we still have. I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting. But uh Winfred Griffith: Maybe till four o'clock or something? Well dunno. Yeah. Daniel Williamson: Well yeah, it is a bit uh Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things. I have to do that. Gary Patton: Yeah. You better Daniel Williamson: I Gary Patton: get started. Daniel Williamson: Di did you um save Leo Parker: Oh. Daniel Williamson: this one in the folder? Leo Parker: No. Daniel Williamson: Can you Leo Parker: No Daniel Williamson: do that? Leo Parker: no no no. Winfred Griffith: No we must save this thing, yeah. In the shared map map. Leo Parker: But Nils you've got some work left. Daniel Williamson: I don't know what you have Winfred Griffith: Map, Daniel Williamson: to do. Winfred Griffith: is it a good word? The Gary Patton: Huh. Winfred Griffith: folder, yeah. Leo Parker: I have to go to a Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Leo Parker: physiotherapy. Daniel Williamson: Oh it worked. Two Leo Parker: Wow. Daniel Williamson: times quick. Gary Patton: Oh, alright. Daniel Williamson: Cool. Winfred Griffith: So it is useful, Leo Parker: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: yeah. Leo Parker: It Gary Patton: Oh Leo Parker: is Winfred Griffith: No Leo Parker: handy. Gary Patton: great, Winfred Griffith: but uh Gary Patton: man. I'm gonna Daniel Williamson: This Gary Patton: buy Daniel Williamson: is nice. Gary Patton: one buy Winfred Griffith: Radical. Gary Patton: one for my bedroom. Daniel Williamson: Uh Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: D design. Winfred Griffith: Do you believe it yourself? Daniel Williamson: S Oh. He saved them all ten. Well alright. Um Leo Parker: Well they they wanted everything we produced, so Winfred Griffith: They Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: also want to see my cat and his rabbit, and uh Daniel Williamson: Well Leo Parker: My big bird. Winfred Griffith: Your big beautiful bird. Daniel Williamson: Where is this? Winfred Griffith: Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't. Of or the other way around uh Gary Patton: Maybe you are broken. Winfred Griffith: Yeah I think so too. Gary Patton: You Leo Parker: I think Gary Patton: know. Leo Parker: you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready. Gary Patton: I think she's listening. Daniel Williamson: I also think so. She Winfred Griffith: Who Daniel Williamson: already Winfred Griffith: is Daniel Williamson: knows. Winfred Griffith: she you're talking about? Oh Daniel Williamson: She? Winfred Griffith: you mean our uh Daniel Williamson: Big brother. Winfred Griffith: coach, our f personal coach. Daniel Williamson: Our manager. Winfred Griffith: Is she also our accountant? Is she responsible for Daniel Williamson: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: sending that information so late? Daniel Williamson: I don't think so. Winfred Griffith: Oh. Leo Parker: Close Winfred Griffith: Because Leo Parker: your laptop. Winfred Griffith: then we have to confront her with our Leo Parker: So she can see we're ready. Gary Patton: I feel watched. Daniel Williamson: Alright. Leo Parker: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: We put the fashion in Leo Parker: Let's Daniel Williamson: electronics, Leo Parker: take this remote into Daniel Williamson: but Leo Parker: uh Daniel Williamson: we couldn't Leo Parker: production. Daniel Williamson: because of the costs. That that's Winfred Griffith: Yeah. That Daniel Williamson: the Winfred Griffith: that's Daniel Williamson: title Winfred Griffith: our new Daniel Williamson: of Winfred Griffith: slogan. Daniel Williamson: our uh Gary Patton: Yeah. Daniel Williamson: end document. Winfred Griffith: Yeah, I Daniel Williamson: We Winfred Griffith: like Daniel Williamson: couldn't Winfred Griffith: that. Daniel Williamson: put the fashion into the electronics. Winfred Griffith: Blame our accountants. Gary Patton: Do that. Daniel Williamson: Yeah, that's a nice title. Gary Patton: Yeah. Winfred Griffith: But we couldn't, yeah. Gary Patton: Very catching. Daniel Williamson: Oh. Winfred Griffith: Well I th Gary Patton: I'm Winfred Griffith: Yeah. Gary Patton: sure management would like that. Daniel Williamson: Well Leo Parker: She's on the move. Daniel Williamson: I'm going to resign after this project anyway, so Gary Patton: Oh, that's just great.

Winfred Griffith and Leo Parker presented the drawing of a prototype. It is rounded, with the front made of hard plastic in different colours. The back, as well as the lower part of the front are made of titanium. The back has the logo and slogan of the company engraved in its middle. The buttons include oval digit buttons, arrow-shaped channel and volume controls in the middle; below those, is the menu (for the LCD) and the video button. The LCD can be found at the lower section of the device. After the presentation, the product was evaluated. This was done on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad) on fancifulness, ease of use, finding the device when it is lost, hi-tech features, incorporation of fashion trends, and ergonomic design. Because it was over budget, titanium was replaced by plastic and the speech recognition was discarded. They thought it would have been more sensible to have the component costs before the prototype design. Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (generally satisfied), leadership (the process was democratic, not happy with management), teamwork (happy with it), and means (SMARTboard was 'a disaster' and the digital pens only good for drawings).

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Jonathan Lo: So welcome. The first kick-off meeting. What we do? First the opening, then the rest. What are we going to do. We m have to make a new remote control. It has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. So we will get back th on that. First we have to make a functional design. After that we have to make a conceptual design, and then after that a detailed design. So we'll discuss that later. First we have a look at. to we have to make a small painting. What have do we have to do. First you can save the documents. We have to do that every time we make something. You can print it. No. And we have to use the pen and the eraser. So Now. We all have to use this one. You have to make your own favourite animal. So I'll make an example. Blair Campbell: Yep. Jonathan Lo: First don't touch that things. You can use the pen. And then you can make um something. Clarence Salzmann: Nice. Jonathan Lo: Um you can change some things. Um format, line, and change it. And you can change the colour. Clarence Salzmann: elephant. Jonathan Lo: So that's it. So Jonathan Lo: So and after it you have to save it. Blair Campbell: Okay. Jonathan Lo: Now we can make a new one. You have to paint now. Blair Campbell: Oh. Jonathan Lo: So you're next. Clarence Salzmann: 'Kay. Blair Campbell: Well we will try. Where it going? Quentin Knoke: Hmm. That's uh strange. Jonathan Lo: What is going on? Clarence Salzmann: pop-ups. Jonathan Lo: What are Blair Campbell: Hmm. Jonathan Lo: you What? Clarence Salzmann: What is this, Pictionary. Blair Campbell: Uh Jonathan Lo: Um Clarence Salzmann: Uh Jonathan Lo: Is Clarence Salzmann: a Jonathan Lo: a It Clarence Salzmann: bird. Jonathan Lo: is a It is a Clarence Salzmann: Bird. Jonathan Lo: A duck. Blair Campbell: Mm. So Now save? Clarence Salzmann: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: Yes. Hmm. Blair Campbell: Now uh blank? Jonathan Lo: Blank, yes. Quentin Knoke: Yeah. Blair Campbell: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: Okay next one. Quentin Knoke: Okay. Let's try Clarence Salzmann: Whoo. Quentin Knoke: this. Uh Blair Campbell: Yeah, yeah. Quentin Knoke: Um. Mm-hmm. Mm. Clarence Salzmann: Oh not. Oh. Jonathan Lo: Oh. Clarence Salzmann: Okay. Okay. Yeah. No problem. Shit happens. Blair Campbell: I'm not getting anything uh on my screen now. Okay. Clarence Salzmann: A parrot. Blair Campbell: Wow. Clarence Salzmann: Ish. Blair Campbell: Oh. Clarence Salzmann: He did it before. Quentin Knoke: Uh Quentin Knoke: No, no. Yeah. Okay. Blair Campbell: Nice. Clarence Salzmann: Oh. Jonathan Lo: Very good. Quentin Knoke: Uh blank. Clarence Salzmann: Thank you. Jonathan Lo: Okay. Very good. So um you can always go back. So That's it. So that was two. Now next. The budget. The b Uh we will sell the t at twenty five Euros. And we have only twenty of twelve and a half Euro to make it. So now we have to think about what we will make. First I wanna hear from you. Uh what are your experiences with remote controls. So Clarence Salzmann: Uh I will start. Jonathan Lo: F Clarence Salzmann: Uh Jonathan Lo: first. Clarence Salzmann: Big one, they are uh not easy to use. when I dropped it, uh it broke. So that won't be uh our goal, I think. Quentin Knoke: No. Clarence Salzmann: And uh g big buttons, m uh that's easier to use than uh I think. Not all the small buttons, you Jonathan Lo: Is Clarence Salzmann: don't Jonathan Lo: this Clarence Salzmann: know Jonathan Lo: positive or negative, that uh big buttons? Clarence Salzmann: Big buttons, positive. Jonathan Lo: Positive. Clarence Salzmann: All all small buttons like when you have uh like a hundred buttons on your remote control, you won't know what they're working for. Jonathan Lo: Okay. What are your experiences? Quentin Knoke: Uh well I think the the the goal of a remote control is that it's it it has an influence on the T_V_ set. And that Jonathan Lo: Mm. Quentin Knoke: it controls the channels and the the volume. And uh I I I think it's positive if corner of the of the remote. So that you know it s it still has batteries on it in it. And that if you push the button the LED uh gives a light, and uh and you see that it's working. And uh yeah. Uh Jonathan Lo: So Quentin Knoke: Yeah, Jonathan Lo: and Quentin Knoke: but Jonathan Lo: do they always have that? Quentin Knoke: No no no. But I my my experience is that it it it's convenient Jonathan Lo: It's Quentin Knoke: to have Jonathan Lo: easy Quentin Knoke: that. Jonathan Lo: to you. Quentin Knoke: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: Okay. Quentin Knoke: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: 'Kay. Blair Campbell: Uh at home we have a T_V_, a video uh recorder, a D_V_D_ player, and a satellite receiver. have uh four distinctive remote controls Clarence Salzmann: Thank Blair Campbell: for that. Clarence Salzmann: you. Blair Campbell: That's not really ea easy. Clarence Salzmann: Help also. Blair Campbell: So it would be nice if we have one for all. Clarence Salzmann: Thank you. Blair Campbell: And we also had a remote control for our radio set. But um i it it had a lot of buttons on it, and you didn't know which one was what. And it was uh uh v not easy to use. So we n barely used it. Jonathan Lo: Okay so they have too much. So Quentin Knoke: Hmm. Jonathan Lo: next. For our own remote control we have to think how do we make it. So what ideas do you have for it, for the new remote control? What what does it have to have? Clarence Salzmann: The weight. Not not too heavy. Jonathan Lo: Not too heavy. Clarence Salzmann: Not Jonathan Lo: Yes. Clarence Salzmann: much buttons. Jonathan Lo: Yeah. Clarence Salzmann: Bust-free. That when you drop it, it won't break. Like uh some kind of rubber on it. Or hard uh hard plastic. Uh buttons not too small. Clarence Salzmann: Uh something like when you uh lose your uh remote control, sometimes it happen. Jonathan Lo: Yes. Clarence Salzmann: Uh it between the couch and you can't find it. When you push a but a button on the T_V_, then you hear some uh some sort of bleep. Jonathan Lo: Like Clarence Salzmann: And Jonathan Lo: a Clarence Salzmann: then Jonathan Lo: phone. Clarence Salzmann: you uh, hey there there's remote control. Blair Campbell: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: Okay. Quentin Knoke: Yeah. Jonathan Lo: So, Clarence Salzmann: Next. Jonathan Lo: that's. Quentin Knoke: Yeah well that's that are good ideas. Uh Yeah well the LED on the corner, that that indicates that it's working. If you push a button. Um Yeah. And looking on the budget, not too expensive uh material. So probably plastic or something. Uh Jonathan Lo: Okay. Blair Campbell: Yeah I think it uh from a marketing point of view, it also has to look nice. Or you won't sell it. Jonathan Lo: Yes. Blair Campbell: And um yeah uh on our website we can see what products we already have. And it should work with as many uh as possible of them. Jonathan Lo: Okay. This is It has to be compatible with other things. Blair Campbell: Yes. Jonathan Lo: Okay. Clarence Salzmann: I have one more idea. Just popped up. Jonathan Lo: Yes? Clarence Salzmann: Uh it it won't take a lot of batteries. So you don't won't have to change the batteries uh once a week or uh once every two weeks. Jonathan Lo: No battery use. So more ideas? Quentin Knoke: Mm no. Jonathan Lo: No okay. It's only the first ideas. So uh what are we going to do now is Next meeting is in half an h hour. Uh Okay. Next meeting, half an hour. Um, what you have to do. Well look on your. And Next instructions you'll get in your email. So This is the first meeting. See you later in half an hour. Quentin Knoke: Yes. Clarence Salzmann: Okay. Blair Campbell: Okay. Clarence Salzmann: Thank you.

For the first meeting, the task of designing a remote control was briefly introduced along with the plan for the subsequent meetings. The group then drew animals to practise using the drawing platform. They discussed their likes and dislikes regarding current remote controls, including ease of use, multiple systems and power indicators. They then offered suggestions as to what they would like from their remote. They would like the remote to be durable, for it to include a device to help find it when lost and not use too many batteries.

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William Pina: Okay. So welcome back. What do we have to? So first. I want to say I'm the secretary, so I make the minutes. You find them in your in the map in the From the group. There's the minutes from the first meeting. You'll find the next minutes also there. Then I wanna hear from you, what you've done. And after that I have some new product requirements. So And after that we have make decisions, what we do. And then we're ready. We have forty minutes for this meeting. After that we'll have lunch. So first I wanna ask Michael Johnson to tell what he did. Michael Johnson: That's my task. William Pina: So Michael Johnson: Okay. Uh I've Where have I put it? My Documents or not? Michael Johnson: Hmm. I've save it on my computer, my presentation. William Pina: Yeah on your computer, or the Michael Johnson: But where? William Pina: What's the name? Michael Johnson: Uh uh uh William Pina: What's the name of it? Michael Johnson: It was about the working of the remote control. William Pina: It's the technical function or the functional requirements. Michael Johnson: Nope. Not a of Wait. The working design. But I've William Pina: Working Michael Johnson: saved William Pina: design. Michael Johnson: it. But now I don't know where it is. Michael Johnson: Hmm. William Pina: Working design. What is this? Product documents. Michael Johnson: Yeah. And I import this until William Pina: On the desktop. Up. up. Michael Johnson: One William Pina: Up. Michael Johnson: more. William Pina: Up. Up. Yes. My Documents. Nope. Michael Johnson: What the fuck William Pina: Gone. Michael Johnson: is this? William Pina: Well you Um Nah. Nah, nah, nah. PowerPoint. Working design. Michael Johnson: Yeah that's the empty one. William Pina: And Michael Johnson: I had one. William Pina: Presentation of Michael Johnson: Uh-huh. William Pina: working design. Michael Johnson: Open it. Okay here it is. William Pina: Save as. Uh Timothy Parsons: Desktop. William Pina: it's Project. Michael Johnson: Project. Timothy Parsons: Yeah. William Pina: Save. Michael Johnson: Okay. Timothy Parsons: Okay William Pina: Very good. Timothy Parsons: Well. Michael Johnson: A little later but here it is. William Pina: Okay. So Michael Johnson: So okay. It's a little difficult what I'm gonna tell you. It's about the working of the remote control. I just had an half an hour j to study it and I don't Timothy Parsons: Make Michael Johnson: get Timothy Parsons: it. Michael Johnson: it. William Pina: Now have ten minutes to tell it. Michael Johnson: Ten minutes to tell it. Okay. I think it will be a few minutes and William Pina: Okay. Michael Johnson: First uh I will tell you something about the findings, what I discovered about the remote control. The working bout it uh of it. Uh then I'll have uh some kind of map, and it's the top of the remote control. With a little bit of science, uh you I will show that uh in in a few minutes. And then uh what I'll think about it. First, the findings. The remote control is a very difficult uh thing to uh to explain to just all of you wh who haven't seen a remote control uh inside. Uh there's a lot of uh plastic on it, um because its uh not so expensive. And there are uh a lot of uh wires, uh which um connect the components in it, the battery, and there are um switches and things like that. There's a lot of small uh electronics. So it won't be um uh too expensive to build it. Only twelve Euro fifty I think uh we will make it. Now And here I have the top of the remote control. Uh here's some kind of chip. Uh on top of this, there are uh the numbers. Uh you have all on your remote control. And uh the teletext uh button. And uh here's the battery. And when you push the button, it will uh will be sent to the chip. And the chip will um send it to all kind of sub-components. That's what I said, it's very difficult. And after that it will be sent to the infrared. And that will send it to your television. That's a short h uh how it works. Uh I think I can uh make it uh difficult, but we all we all don't get it. My preferences? It's uh it won't be uh We shouldn't make it too big. Uh also for the cost, uh we should only put one battery on it. A long-lasting battery. Uh also for the cost, uh use only plastic. Not other materials. Also because of the cost, uh not too much buttons on it. We can also make uh a button uh with a menu uh button. And then um that that you will see it on the T_V_. And on the T_V_ you can uh switch into the menu. That's I James Kendall: Mm-hmm. Michael Johnson: think it's easier. And the bleep signal, y uh you told us. Uh but we can also use it uh a bleep like something, when the battery's empty, then there is a bleep. Then you'll have to change it in a in a week or something. And also the bleep, when what I told you about uh when you lost it, and you push a button, and then you hear bleep bleep, and we will find it. This is uh William Pina: Oh oh. Michael Johnson: just uh Yeah. William Pina: Two questions. Michael Johnson: Yeah. William Pina: The battery. You say one battery is cheaper. Why? Michael Johnson: If we w if we use only just one uh small pen-light, then it will be cheaper than when we use William Pina: Yeah but Michael Johnson: two. William Pina: when you use two, you can use it two times longer. Michael Johnson: Yeah but then we'll have to make the um remote control uh long lasting. William Pina: Okay Michael Johnson: Just William Pina: so it's the size of the remote control. Michael Johnson: Yeah. William Pina: Okay and the buttons. When you use it on the television, you've you need the television, wh which can use it. Michael Johnson: Yeah. But William Pina: S Michael Johnson: uh I think this our remote control is for the televisions we uh we sell in our company? William Pina: Okay. Michael Johnson: Or is it also for other company uh for other televisions? William Pina: I think we have to use it also on other televisions though. Michael Johnson: Then this is an option. William Pina: So Michael Johnson: Maybe just a menu button to use it on our televisions. And then we make it easier uh for our televisions. And on the other tele televisions, you can also use it, but then William Pina: Yeah but Michael Johnson: we William Pina: I Michael Johnson: won't William Pina: don't Michael Johnson: use William Pina: I think Michael Johnson: the William Pina: it They are two different things though. We have to choose one. It has to work on o uh all televisions. James Kendall: Mm. Michael Johnson: Yeah? Okay. Then I think uh the menu button uh will only work on the newer televisions. And we will uh look forward and don't make a Timothy Parsons: Hmm. Michael Johnson: remote control which for the older televisions. William Pina: Okay. Michael Johnson: And I just uh have one more idea. Uh maybe it's one of your tasks. But Uh, to have a trendy remote control, we can also um make something like the Nokia um mobile phones. To change covers. So if you have uh a trendy half with all red, uh yellow and something. And then you can put a Timothy Parsons: Hmm. Michael Johnson: red cover on it. And also different things. William Pina: Yeah. Good idea. Timothy Parsons: Will Michael Johnson: Yes. Timothy Parsons: this will this add to the cost? Michael Johnson: Uh then it won't be uh will have just one cover on the uh original one. then you can buy the covers. Timothy Parsons: Yes but you have to m uh be able to change it. D does it make it more difficult to design? Michael Johnson: I think it will be a little more difficult, but not William Pina: Mm-hmm. Michael Johnson: too much. Timothy Parsons: Not much. 'Kay. Michael Johnson: Just like with the Nokia uh mobile phones. William Pina: Yeah but there are much Michael Johnson: Just one. William Pina: more Nokia telephones than um these ones. Michael Johnson: Yeah but then we'll have to to just um put five covers on it, and see if it works. If it won't works then we'll get something else. Then we uh won't g uh go further with it. William Pina: Yeah but are their profits bigger than their cost? Michael Johnson: Uh a p a a cover made in uh in China, it it won't be I guess so expensive I think. William Pina: Yeah but there are also design cost. I don't think When you have a remote control, do you change the cover? Michael Johnson: Maybe. William Pina: Would you change Michael Johnson: I William Pina: the Michael Johnson: wi William Pina: cover? Michael Johnson: I won't. But maybe William Pina: No. Michael Johnson: I think trendy people or like children where you can paint on it, and uh the the children William Pina: N Michael Johnson: think, William Pina: yeah Michael Johnson: oh William Pina: but Michael Johnson: this is my remote control, uh I made a picture on it. William Pina: I think that Michael Johnson: Uh William Pina: too less people would change it for good profit. Michael Johnson: Yeah. William Pina: So Michael Johnson: Okay. And the other people? Timothy Parsons: Um Michael Johnson: What do you think about it? James Kendall: Yeah a. But If if it Yeah, I don't I'm not sure if it will make profit enough Michael Johnson: Okay. James Kendall: to uh But it's uh yeah it's uh original idea. William Pina: Yes it is but I don't think we have to do it. James Kendall: No. Michael Johnson: Okay. Timothy Parsons: Mm. Michael Johnson: You're William Pina. William Pina: Okay. Michael Johnson: Yes. That's it. William Pina: That's clear. Okay thank you. So now James Kendall. James Kendall: Oh. That's Timothy Parsons. Uh Come on. Ah. Timothy Parsons: Yeah. James Kendall: Yes well uh uh I shall give a short talk about the the technical function design. some influence on the T_V_ set. Uh both audio and vide video uh in a cordless way. No cords attached. And uh well, it all by pushing a button on the remote. That was from my own experience and uh and uh the previous meeting. Uh I find some uh some interesting quotes on the web. Uh well the same idea here. Uh message to the television. And uh and and and well basic uh operations like on and off, and uh switching channels, and uh and maybe uh teletext or something like that. Uh well these are two uh remotes, and that's our uh our dilemma I think. Uh We just heard from Michael Johnson how uh difficult it is. But uh shall we make a basic remote control, uh just uh swapping channels and volume and uh power button and well nothing much more. Or uh uh more functions on the remote. Uh maybe more devices you can influence. Uh a radio or a v a video recorder, uh V_C_R_. Yeah well that's our dilemma. Um any ideas about that? Basic or multifunctional? William Pina: We'll got back on that later. James Kendall: Okay yeah. Yeah well Timothy Parsons: Yes. James Kendall: the that was just on my mind. So uh I didn't know what uh what way we would go. Mm yeah well that was my uh functional uh talk. Michael Johnson: 'Kay. William Pina: 'Kay, thank you. Then it's your turn, Timothy Parsons. Timothy Parsons: Okay. Uh um m Timothy Parsons: Yeah. Um yeah okay. This bit too far. So So I'm uh gonna have a presentation about um, about um yeah what people think. Uh we did a usability lab-test with a hundred persons. And we looked at uh several um things. Uh among them design, uh d d how d did they like the use of it, uh what frustrations they had while using remote controls. Uh well what what will be our market. And uh we asked them if we had some new featu features. If um that would be a good idea or not. Well our findings. Uh our users, they disliked the look and feel of current remote controls. Um uh they especially found found them very ugly. And um th they also found them hard to to learn how to use it. Uh well they also zap a lot. So uh zapping uh should be very easy. And uh fifty percent of the users only use ten percent of the buttons. So a lot of unused buttons. There is more findings. Uh on the buttons. Which uh buttons find users uh very important and which which not? And how much would they use them? Well uh the most used button is the channel selection. And uh we asked them how uh relevant they think uh the buttons are. The power, volume and channel selections are very relevant. Uh teletext is uh less relevant but also important. Uh not important they found the audio, uh that's not the volume but uh specific the the pitch, or the left or right. Uh the screen and the brightness. And uh channel settings. Uh th and they also are not used very often. Then we have a few um graphs about the market. Uh here we can see what the market share is of uh several groups. Um as you can see, most users are uh between thirty six and forty five. Um the the the younger group between sixteen and twenty five is not very big. And to come back on the the swapping uh things, uh I don't think uh, I I think the younger will be most interest in it. But uh they are not a very big group. Um in the we asked them, uh how would you like a s a new feature. If you have an L_C_D_ on the remote control, what would you think of it. Now you can clearly see young users say. I will that would very nice. And older user think uh they will be scared of change I think. And they won't like it. And another thing, how would you like to have a speech recognition on it. Well here we see the same. Young users uh think that's an interesting idea. And old users not. Uh well we uh found out that there are two several markets at which we can aim. Uh the first are the younger, the age between sixteen and forty five. Uh they are highly interested in the features, as you can see uh here. And um they are more critical on their money spending. Uh the second group is the older group. Aged between forty six and sixty five. They are less interested in uh new features. But uh they spend their money more easily. Now if we look back at this graph, we can see that among the first group is about um sixty percent. And the second group about forty percent. So the the first group is bigger. Well then I come to my uh personal preferences. Uh yeah the first question is uh also we have to ask is at the which market do we aim at. Uh of course n uh saying we aim at the young group doesn't say that old people won't buy it. But less of them will buy it. Um well I uh Okay. What I thought, um even young people say it's hard to use, remote control. So if you make a remote control that is uh very easy to use, that's especially aimed at this group, even uh the young group will also be more interested. And um we can make special features. But uh I think it looks nice in the first time. But when use it, uh I don't know what's uh good thing of speech recognition. James Kendall: Mm-hmm. Timothy Parsons: Um well th uh that's my second point. Uh less important functions should be discarded from the remote control. It's about discussion we had earlier. Um You can find most functions on a T_V_ set. So uh you don't have to have a lot of audio options, or screen options to change the brightness. And such things. Um well the design is very important. Timothy Parsons: looking uh remote control if there will be one. But they found most remote controls very ugly. So the design of our remote control is very important. And uh yeah it should be very zap friendly, as most users use it for that. That were my findings. William Pina: Okay Michael Johnson: Yeah. William Pina: thank Michael Johnson: I have William Pina: you. Michael Johnson: uh one question. If William Pina: Yes. Michael Johnson: we aim for the younger people, um and there will be uh a lot of features like L_C_D_ or the the the speech uh f recognising, uh the cost will be a lot of h uh a lot higher. Timothy Parsons: Yes. James Kendall: Mm-hmm. Michael Johnson: Uh I think we don't have that in our budget. James Kendall: No. Michael Johnson: Do you think? Timothy Parsons: No. James Kendall: And I don't Michael Johnson: Like James Kendall: uh I don't think twenty five Euros for a remote is really cheap or something. Michael Johnson: No. No. James Kendall: So it's Yeah, it's hard to uh get the younger Michael Johnson: Uh-huh. James Kendall: group. William Pina: I think uh the L_C_D_ is cheaper than speech recognition. So James Kendall: Mm-hmm. William Pina: I think that can be an d good option. L_C_D_. James Kendall: Just the L_C_D_? William Pina: Yes. Only James Kendall: Mm-hmm. William Pina: the L_C_D_. So But we'll come back on that. Timothy Parsons: Okay. William Pina: Now Oh, go on. What d d d um Um Uh we go back on the decisions later. Now we have a few new product requirements. First, teletext. We have internet now so we don't need the teletext anymore. So not necessary. Next. Only for the television. So we don't look at the other things like the radio or something. Only the television. We look at the age group of forty plus. Uh no, younger than forty. Is a g big group, and like you showed, n not very much people buy our stuff. Fourth point. Our corporate colour and slogan must be used. Very important for the design. So you can see it on our site. Next. Um no. William Pina: We have to make our decisions, what we want to do. So like you said, we need the. Maybe it's good to put it in a document. Now we have to decide what controls do we need. So maybe you can tell us. Timothy Parsons: Yeah maybe we can first have a discussion uh on the the product requirements you just uh said. William Pina: Sorry? Timothy Parsons: The the requirements you just said, William Pina: Yes. Timothy Parsons: maybe we should first have a discussion about that. William Pina: Yes, it's Timothy Parsons: I uh William Pina: okay. Timothy Parsons: personally think uh teletext is a good option. Uh not everyone um who is looking T_V_ can go to internet when they want to see the latest news. William Pina: Yeah but we don't use it. It's a new requirement. So, it's not my requirement. Michael Johnson: 'Kay, we'll just have to do that. William Pina: We have to do this. Michael Johnson: Okay. Timothy Parsons: Okay. Michael Johnson: No discussion Timothy Parsons: Okay sorry. Michael Johnson: about it. Timothy Parsons: Then uh William Pina: No. Michael Johnson: Okay. Unfortunately. William Pina: So what controls do we need? Who first? James Kendall: Well a power button? William Pina: Okay. Uh power. James Kendall: Uh the well um I think separate channels. So William Pina: Uh mm channel. James Kendall: But then both the the separate channels. So so uh William Pina: Channel James Kendall: zero to nine or something. William Pina: Zero to nine. James Kendall: Uh volume. William Pina: Volume. Maybe it's easy to pick. What was w your one? Techno Timothy Parsons: Mine? It's the functional requirements. William Pina: Okay. William Pina: We had w uh no no no no. Where was that example of the James Kendall: Oh mine. William Pina: Johan. That was the the the the the James Kendall: Technical. William Pina: technical Hallo. Okay. What do we need? On-off. Zero to nine. Michael Johnson: To change to the next channel, just one button. To move up, move down. William Pina: Yeah that's the Timothy Parsons: D William Pina: channel. Timothy Parsons: Yeah. Do we make a menu? William Pina: Menu? Uh yes the n newer televisions ha do have menus. Uh Timothy Parsons: Uh William Pina: M Menu. I think um the only one or two numbers. James Kendall: Mm yes. William Pina: And Hello? That's ch Timothy Parsons: I think it will be um q quite easy to use, to have uh uh four arrows. Up-down for channel selection, and William Pina: Yes. Timothy Parsons: left-right uh for volume. And uh a menu uh button. And if you press the menu button you get into the menu, and you can use the same buttons. But the then to scroll through the menu and to change the options. William Pina: On the L_C_D_ screen, you mean? Timothy Parsons: Uh well yeah that depends on if you have uh the menu on the T_V_. Or you get the menu on the L_C_D_ screen on the remote control. William Pina: Think it's better to have it on the remote control, 'cause it it has to work on all televisions. So Timothy Parsons: Yes. Michael Johnson: But William Pina: we Michael Johnson: then William Pina: need Michael Johnson: we come to the costs. William Pina: N Yes. But if we have this Timothy Parsons: 'Kay. But well if you aim at the younger market, um a as they as uh s uh as we seen in the usability uh lab, uh they will buy a nice looking um remote control. And also to find the easy to use uh part very important. So if we have a L_C_D_ sh uh screen, and uh not too many buttons, I think that will incre uh uh even when it's a bit more cost, it will still sell. William Pina: So now we don't have a lot of buttons. Is this enough? James Kendall: Mute. William Pina: Maybe in the menu? James Kendall: Um Timothy Parsons: Mm. James Kendall: Yeah but then it's always uh more than one uh William Pina: Mute. James Kendall: thing to do. William Pina: Mm-hmm. Timothy Parsons: Yeah. William Pina: Okay. Maybe more? No. Well. Then that's all. This will be the buttons. And I think that's enough for the next phase. So we can go on to Michael Johnson: But now we have only the buttons. And William Pina: Yes. Michael Johnson: uh we don't yet have to decide what the remote control would look like? Or William Pina: No that's for the next phase. Michael Johnson: Okay. William Pina: Um Phase two is the conceptual design. So Michael Johnson: Okay. William Pina: then we'll have the concepts. Michael Johnson: Okay. William Pina: That's for the So uh next point. Now we have lunch-break. After that we have t thirty minutes for work. And you can find the minutes in the Project Documents folder inclusive the uh buttons. No. Your individual action, you can find them in the email. So now it's time for lunch. Michael Johnson: Okay. Timothy Parsons: Okay. Good idea. William Pina: Thanks for coming.

William Pina opened the meeting by explaining how to locate his minutes from the previous meeting. Michael Johnson briefly explained the internal workings of the remote, and mentioned his preferences for power source and case material. He also suggested mobile phone-like changeable covers, and the group discussed the profit in this. James Kendall very briefly mentioned some features a remote should have and suggested it should be multifunctional. Timothy Parsons present the findings of the usability study. The group then discussed their target group ,and what features they might include to attract them. The manager introduced new requirements to the project, insisting they were to be followed. The group then discussed what buttons they might need, which included menu, numbers, channel and volume changing arrows and mute.

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Michael Hunter: Okay. Well, let's start. What are doing? Oops. Richard Leslie: Hmm. Nathan Lindsey: Ah, pinball. Michael Hunter: Okay. Okay. Not doing. Ashley Depedro: Mm. Michael Hunter: Uh Ashley Depedro: Ah. Richard Leslie: Oh. Ashley Depedro: Hey. Ah. Now I have my screen back too. Michael Hunter: Very good. Okay. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Michael Hunter: we have presentations. So first, it's your turn. Richard Leslie: Mine. Oh Michael Hunter: Yeah. Richard Leslie: great Nathan Lindsey: Huh. Michael Hunter: Isn't it amazing. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Very interesting. Richard Leslie: Uh Michael Hunter: Industrial Designer. Interface concept. Richard Leslie: Yes, well uh let's uh talk about the interface uh concept. Uh, first I'll uh I'll uh discuss the buttons we just chose, uh show you some samples, uh uh discuss some colours and design maybe, already. And uh my personal preferences. Well we chose the power button to switch the television on and off. The bu uh the mute button to switch the volume on and o on and off. and uh off uh uh zero to nine, and the uh button to choose uh higher channels than nine. Uh the volume and channel quadrants, uh left and right, up and down arrows, to uh do the volume and channel. And the menu menu button to man manipulate the L_C_D_ uh display. Um, I found some uh interesting uh uh samples. Examples. Um, well uh what's pretty standard is uh that it's that they're all pretty uh uh high uh Ashley Depedro: Large. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Ashley Depedro: A Richard Leslie: Yeah. Ashley Depedro: lot Richard Leslie: Large Ashley Depedro: a lot of buttons Richard Leslie: and and and Ashley Depedro: buttons. Richard Leslie: pretty thin and uh and long. Um, power buttons are mostly at the top uh left or right. Um, well we see the the the same uh arrows. Like there. And uh Yeah, well arrow b buttons can be blue. And what's interesting is the the the icons on the buttons. Some buttons have icons like the play and stop, but we don't use that. But uh, these we we have to choose the right icons, or or letters. Uh this is the V_ for volume, but they're both uh a V_. So it's it's not really very uh clear what's the function of that. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Richard Leslie: Um Yeah. So, that's Michael Hunter: Can you go back one page? For the uh menu, what do we use for that? Richard Leslie: Uh, Michael Hunter: We don't Richard Leslie: well Michael Hunter: have buttons for the menu. Or we may use channel of volume and Richard Leslie: Yeah. I thought that was our uh idea. Michael Hunter: Okay. Richard Leslie: So, Michael Hunter: But Richard Leslie: uh Michael Hunter: uh Richard Leslie: how Michael Hunter: You have to put it on the Richard Leslie: Like this. Michael Hunter: Yeah. Richard Leslie: Or or this. And that the menu button is okay. Michael Hunter: Yeah but, has to be clear that you can use the arrows. Richard Leslie: Yeah, okay. Ashley Depedro: Yes. Richard Leslie: Uh, so the The icons on the arrows, as well, you Michael Hunter: Mm-hmm. Richard Leslie: mean. Michael Hunter: Yes. The second one. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Uh, well that's something to uh think about. Michael Hunter: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: Uh, maybe I'll have something in my uh presentation. And Richard Leslie: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: you Ashley Depedro: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: will see it. Richard Leslie: Um, well I don't I don't know if we have to discuss this already, or in the next uh meeting. But uh, as we have to uh to to design the the case and the whole uh remote control in our uh our our corporate uh company uh uh colours and the logo, I would uh recommend a yellow case. Uh, round edges. The logo at the bottom. And uh, well maybe each each uh set of buttons uh has uh has his own colour. So, it's good. Uh, recognisable. K so, I think. Michael Hunter: Not too much colours. Richard Leslie: Uh, no. Not too much. But uh Michael Hunter: No, it's not flower power. Richard Leslie: No, no, no. But this has to be has to be trendy and uh Michael Hunter: S okay. Richard Leslie: and Uh, yeah so good uh good icons on the buttons, and uh and big buttons is my uh personal uh opinion. Michael Hunter: Okay. Richard Leslie: That was that. Michael Hunter: Thank you. So, you're next. Nathan Lindsey: I'm next, okay. Nathan Lindsey: Yes. No. Here we go. Uh, at Ashley Depedro: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: first we will uh I will f Ashley Depedro: Mm-hmm. Nathan Lindsey: uh say something about what younger people want, our uh group w uh w uh we want to uh sell our remote controls to. And I'll discuss what my opinion is about the costs, about uh what battery is in it, what kind of buttons also. First uh, the younger people, they want like soft mat uh materials and primary colours. Like, totally yellow, totally red. Uh, so it's visible. Uh, the shapes are curved and round, like uh you also said. Maybe it's nice to uh get a remote control not like all the other ones, straight and uh flat and long. But to give him the shape of your hand, so you it's easier to use or something like that. But that's just an idea. And then, I'll have to discuss about the costs uh of all the things for the remote control. The battery, there are few options. Uh, I think the best option is to use uh the basic battery. So, everybody can buy it uh at the at the supermarket. Or use uh a k uh kinetic battery like uh within a watch. When you uh shake it a few times, it it's loaded. Uh, the the form of the remote control, I think it's also nice have it curved. And maybe like it's hand-shaped. Uh, so uh you take it here in your hand and here are the buttons. Uh material, you use plastic. Hard plastic uh because uh it won't have to burst uh like in the in one time. And also rubber because the younger people like that, what we see in the research. Uh the push-buttons. We have one new thing uh discovered. It's a scroll push uh thing like a mouse. Maybe it's uh easy to use uh for the channels. When you want to go m move up, you just scroll up and click on the button, if you wanna see the next, uh if you wanna see that channel. And also for the mouse, uh for the volume, it's also uh easy to use. Just scroll a bit up, scroll a bit down. And that's also easy just w when you have a thing like this, and you get it here. You can do it with your thumb. And with your Ashley Depedro: Hmm. Nathan Lindsey: l left hand you can uh push the buttons uh if you push uh channel one, you can see channel one. The electrics um with a scroll push uh button, we must use regular uh chips. There are also uh simple chips. They are uh cheaper. Um, but then we have just a basic uh uh remote control, and I think there are a lot of those uh things, and people won't buy it any more. They have seen enough of it. And you have also advanced um chips. But that's with the L_C_D_ uh screen. And the costs will increase a lot more. And I think our budget is too low to use and an L_C_D_, and the chip who is more expensive. And maybe it's also then uh thoughtful if we u uh use uh as um different kind of uh shapes for the for remote control, that we then use the primary colours. Like, you get a yellow uh remote control, red one, blue one, et cetera. You have any more questions about this? I think the main Ashley Depedro: Yep. Nathan Lindsey: thing is we look at the costs. Michael Hunter: Hmm. Nathan Lindsey: And not too basic, not a Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: basic remote control, who Ashley Depedro: But, Nathan Lindsey: everybody Ashley Depedro: thi Nathan Lindsey: already Ashley Depedro: i uh Nathan Lindsey: has. Ashley Depedro: This is with an L_C_D_? No, Nathan Lindsey: Not Ashley Depedro: not. Nathan Lindsey: with an L_C_D_. Michael Hunter: No, isn't. Nathan Lindsey: No. Michael Hunter: But the L_C_D_ is easy when you use the scroll uh buttons. Then you can scroll, you see what number, Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: and then you push. Nathan Lindsey: But then, what I say, the costs will uh get a lot higher. Michael Hunter: But then it's not easy to use scroll uh wheel. Nathan Lindsey: Th then Michael Hunter: If Nathan Lindsey: you'll Michael Hunter: you Nathan Lindsey: see Michael Hunter: don't Nathan Lindsey: it on the television. Michael Hunter: Hmm, yes. But then. Yeah, then you go one down one up. When Nathan Lindsey: Yeah Michael Hunter: you scroll. Nathan Lindsey: but l when you see a menu uh on the television, it's like you see uh one to twenty, you go uh uh s scroll Michael Hunter: Yeah but Nathan Lindsey: up, Michael Hunter: like Nathan Lindsey: and Michael Hunter: we said Nathan Lindsey: push Michael Hunter: before, Nathan Lindsey: number tw Michael Hunter: it Nathan Lindsey: twenty. Michael Hunter: has to be used on every television. So you may not be uh No. The television must do that. Nathan Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Michael Hunter: So Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, I think the younger people will have newer televisions, which can provide our uh Michael Hunter: Yeah Nathan Lindsey: remote Michael Hunter: but Nathan Lindsey: control. Michael Hunter: young people have to have all their uh room. And mostly they are smaller. Nathan Lindsey: Yes. Michael Hunter: So Nathan Lindsey: But that won't be a problem. I think. Michael Hunter: Most the times that are not advanced televisions. Nathan Lindsey: No, but then we'll get to the regular uh remote controls. And I think, what I said, everybody has them uh has them already. And they go to a uh supermarket and buy them uh for two Euros. Uh, and ge and get the most cheapest uh thing. And I think we must look further to uh to devel d develop something news. Michael Hunter: Okay. Ashley Depedro: Uh, can you give an indication in b uh in the cost difference between uh the chip with L_C_D_ or without? Nathan Lindsey: I got it on my screen and it was uh higher. But I don't know uh how much higher. Ashley Depedro: 'Cause it I think Michael Hunter: That's Ashley Depedro: if Michael Hunter: important. Ashley Depedro: we have an L_C_D_, it will also sell a lot better. Nathan Lindsey: That's true. Ashley Depedro: And that might uh bring back the costs uh Nathan Lindsey: But then we'll I think we must discuss who uh what will be better. If we have a better shape of the um remote control, or better options on it. With a scroll menu, a w scroll thing, and a L_C_D_. And then a flat um remote control. remote control, with scroll, without L_C_D_. Michael Hunter: Yeah. Maybe you can look how how much it is Nathan Lindsey: I can Michael Hunter: for Nathan Lindsey: uh Michael Hunter: the Nathan Lindsey: look on my Michael Hunter: L_C_D_. It's Nathan Lindsey: uh Michael Hunter: very important. Nathan Lindsey: Uh Note that the push-button requires a simple chip chip. A scroll wheel requires minimally a regular chip, which is a higher price range. The display requires a advanced chip, which is which in turn is more expensive than the regular chip. Michael Hunter: Yeah, more expensive. But how much? Nathan Lindsey: Doesn't say. Michael Hunter: Oh. Ashley Depedro: Huh. Richard Leslie: Hmm. Michael Hunter: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: That's from my manufacturing division. Michael Hunter: Okay. Ashley Depedro: 'Kay. Michael Hunter: Well, thank Ashley Depedro: My Michael Hunter: you. Ashley Depedro: turn? Nathan Lindsey: Yes? Michael Hunter: Next. Ashley Depedro: Mm. So So Yeah. So, my uh presentation is about trend-watching. Uh, I did some trend-watching. It's very important to uh keep up with latest trends. 'Cause if you don't, you won't sell. So, well how we did do that? Uh, well we made an investigation of the market, by Trendwatchers. They uh watch in uh cities like uh Paris and Milan. Of course, well known for their uh trend uh trends. And well, uh what did you find? Uh, we have two groups, young and trendy, and the old and rich. Well th and the young and trendy, they uh they starting to like uh fruit and vegetables uh as a theme for n uh clothes, shoes, and also uh products. And um, material? That should feel have uh a spongy feeling. And to get a feeling for what it is, uh here is an image of it. Then the old and rich. They like uh dark colours, and simple, recognisable shapes. And um, they also like uh familiar material, uh especially wood. Now, another picture. To get a feeling for this. Well, uh then already come to my personal preferences. We uh aim at the younger market. So, we should also be uh look at their uh trends. However, with trends it's always if there's it's now. It it it might last one year, and next year it be uh can be totally different. And I think we want to sell our product for longer than one year. So, we m must not just only look at what the trend is now, as it might be totally different next year. So, that's uh one thing to keep in mind. Nathan Lindsey: Changing covers. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Any questions? Nathan Lindsey: Nope. Richard Leslie: No. Michael Hunter: No. It's clear. So now, it's uh Ah, let's see. Michael Hunter: Now, w we have to decide Michael Hunter: Well, we have to decide on the concept. So, we have to look at 'S next. Components and user interface concept. So Now, we have to make some concept. Maybe one of you can paint it on the board. First, uh user interface. Nathan Lindsey: Uh, uh-uh. How w how we how we make it? Uh Michael Hunter: Yes, a concept on uh Nathan Lindsey: Shouldn't Michael Hunter: Just Nathan Lindsey: we first Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: discuss about like what w Michael Hunter: Yeah, but Nathan Lindsey: we Michael Hunter: maybe Nathan Lindsey: all Michael Hunter: we can paint it. Uh, what do we want? Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, but if I paint with Michael Hunter: I'll paint. Okay. Well Ashley Depedro: Mm. Michael Hunter: Something like this? Or Richard Leslie: Mm, Michael Hunter: Shapes Richard Leslie: yes. Michael Hunter: or What do we need? Ashley Depedro: Can make Richard Leslie: What? Ashley Depedro: several uh concepts. Michael Hunter: Yes, okay. Ashley Depedro: We have this, and we had the idea of an um a more uh uh uh like sh in the shape of your hand. Michael Hunter: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: More like something Ashley Depedro: Yeah I I I uh yes. Nathan Lindsey: M like Yeah I can't dr I can't draw it. Uh Michael Hunter: And you have to. Nathan Lindsey: I have to. Michael Hunter: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: I'm not a designer. It's more three D_. Like, um when you have a part here. This is the remote control. And then you have something like th this under it. So, it's easier Richard Leslie: Mm. Nathan Lindsey: to get it like this. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: It's like a gun. Ashley Depedro: A Michael Hunter: So, it has to be Ashley Depedro: g Michael Hunter: soft? Ashley Depedro: Mm. Nathan Lindsey: And it has to be soft, yeah. Michael Hunter: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: So, you can Michael Hunter: And uh, Nathan Lindsey: squeeze Michael Hunter: the Nathan Lindsey: in Michael Hunter: buttons? Nathan Lindsey: it and Sorry? Michael Hunter: Buttons. Nathan Lindsey: Buttons on top of it. And here. The scrolling. You can do it with your thumb. Richard Leslie: But but i that's the only scroll uh button on it then? Nathan Lindsey: But Michael Hunter: No, Nathan Lindsey: now Michael Hunter: it Nathan Lindsey: we Michael Hunter: won't. Nathan Lindsey: use one scroll button and the other one is here. One till uh uh zero till nine. Michael Hunter: But, Richard Leslie: Yeah, okay. But Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Michael Hunter: well Nathan Lindsey: And Richard Leslie: but Michael Hunter: there Nathan Lindsey: the Michael Hunter: one Nathan Lindsey: b Richard Leslie: how Michael Hunter: for the sound and one for the channels. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah? Richard Leslie: How Nathan Lindsey: Or two buttons. Richard Leslie: Okay. Ashley Depedro: And Michael Hunter: Uh, Ashley Depedro: i if Michael Hunter: two Ashley Depedro: we go Michael Hunter: scroll Ashley Depedro: to uh Michael Hunter: uh Nathan Lindsey: If Michael Hunter: wheels. Nathan Lindsey: uh 'Kay c If we do If we use one, then we'll have just a switch on it, and you'll just switch it, and now it's Richard Leslie: Mm. Nathan Lindsey: the sound to switch Michael Hunter: That's th Nathan Lindsey: back Michael Hunter: that's more difficult. Ashley Depedro: But if we have Michael Hunter: It's Ashley Depedro: uh Michael Hunter: better Ashley Depedro: a Ashley Depedro Michael Hunter: in Ashley Depedro: Yeah. If we have a menu, uh how do we uh choose other options? Nathan Lindsey: with the menu uh button. And then you also can scroll uh scroll in it. Just not like all Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: the other ones, with uh this thing, and uh here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow, here an arrow. Because uh, from h hundred uh remote controls, ninety nine have it. Michael Hunter: But Richard Leslie: Yeah. Michael Hunter: if we don't have a L_C_D_ we don't have a menu. Nathan Lindsey: Uh, Ashley Depedro: Uh-uh. Nathan Lindsey: then we have it on the T_V_, the menu. Michael Hunter: Yeah, but again maybe th How do we know the T_V_ can handle it? You don't know. So, Nathan Lindsey: I Michael Hunter: there's Nathan Lindsey: don't Michael Hunter: no Nathan Lindsey: know. Michael Hunter: menu. Nathan Lindsey: It's like some sort of uh teletext option, but we don't have teletext. Michael Hunter: No. So you can't use it. Nathan Lindsey: And if we put an L_C_D_ thing on it, then the costs will uh be much higher. Michael Hunter: Okay, we make two concepts. One with L_C_D_. One without L_C_D_. Nathan Lindsey: 'Kay. But you all like this kind of thing. Uh Michael Hunter: Good concept. But Nathan Lindsey: With the scroll button. Michael Hunter: That's one. Nathan Lindsey: And and this one Ashley Depedro: Uh-uh. Nathan Lindsey: has to be soft. And this has to be harder, because when it falls, it mu mu must not burst. Or some kind of rubber around it. Richard Leslie: Mm-hmm. Michael Hunter: It's one. Two. Number two. Richard Leslie: And you can and you can uh make the the power button as a trigger. Like Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Richard Leslie: uh Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Ah that's nice. Here. Trigger. Michael Hunter: No. Richard Leslie: Just Michael Hunter: But Richard Leslie: to Michael Hunter: when you handle it, Richard Leslie: uh Michael Hunter: you put it on and off. It's not good to use. Richard Leslie: Oh, like Michael Hunter: Yeah, but Richard Leslie: a Michael Hunter: I'll zap. Fuck. Out. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Michael Hunter: No, it's not good. Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Michael Hunter: Now, second concept. One with L_C_D_, one without L_C_D_. Then uh Paint it. Nathan Lindsey: Paint it? With the scroll thing on, Michael Hunter: One Nathan Lindsey: like this? Michael Hunter: with two scroll buttons and one with without. Yeah. Uh, one Nathan Lindsey: So? Michael Hunter: with a with a menu, and one without a menu. And the one with with a menu has an L_C_D_. Nathan Lindsey: Draw it. Michael Hunter: Unbelievable. Do I have to do everything. Blank. You have Michael Hunter: Not so difficult. Richard Leslie: But Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Richard Leslie: if you put push the the menu button Michael Hunter: Uh, that's the menu. Richard Leslie: Yeah, wh Michael Hunter: There Richard Leslie: what Michael Hunter: for the L_C_D_ screen. Richard Leslie: Yes, but you don't know which of the scroll buttons you have to choose. Michael Hunter: You have to For the menu. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Michael Hunter: Mm-hmm. One that way. And one that way. So Then it depends on the cost. S On and off. Nathan Lindsey: But is it easy to use? When you have it on your left side, and Michael Hunter: When it's not too big. Just like a a phone. Richard Leslie: Mm-hmm. Ashley Depedro: M uh yeah, maybe it's better if the uh scroll-wheels are um Nathan Lindsey: Separate, more separate, Ashley Depedro: more separate, Nathan Lindsey: h yeah. Ashley Depedro: yeah. Michael Hunter: Yes, Ashley Depedro: Like, you have Michael Hunter: okay. Ashley Depedro: the menu button in between uh Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. On the left a scroll button, and on the right a scroll button. Nathan Lindsey: But would it be easy to use then? If it's like you have a big uh Michael Hunter: Very good. Is it better? When you uh the menu, you have to go there there there there. Nathan Lindsey: I also think Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: this concept is not what the young people were looking for. They were like round curves, uh different uh Michael Hunter: Yeah, okay. That's that's the outside. Nathan Lindsey: Okay, okay, Michael Hunter: But now Nathan Lindsey: okay. Michael Hunter: the First the buttons. Nathan Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Ashley Depedro: Think we have we have now two buttons missing. The uh um The mute button. Michael Hunter: Sorry? Ashley Depedro: We have two buttons missing. The mute button. And um, the to to uh have to uh numbers Michael Hunter: Mute. And the other. Yeah. Ashley Depedro: Okay. Michael Hunter: Not so difficult. Ashley Depedro: But, uh Nathan Lindsey: Personally, I think two scroll buttons uh aren't easy to handle. Michael Hunter: But how do you wanna solve it? Nathan Lindsey: With the switch button. Michael Hunter: Yeah but on the menu that's not uh easy. Then Nathan Lindsey: No Michael Hunter: you Nathan Lindsey: like Michael Hunter: go down, Nathan Lindsey: uh Michael Hunter: you switch, you go into the right, you switch, you go down. Nathan Lindsey: Oh, you mean like that. Michael Hunter: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: Uh, then you can also have like uh th um Michael Hunter: A joystick. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, and joystick, I think. Michael Hunter: Yeah. But is it uh Does that break, a joystick? Or a small one just like in a laptop. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah like in a laptop, s uh s some sort of thing. A little bit bigger, with Michael Hunter: Mean, it's Nathan Lindsey: easier Michael Hunter: better. Nathan Lindsey: thi Michael Hunter: But how expensive it is? Nathan Lindsey: I don't know. Michael Hunter: Oh. Why do I pay you for? Um, well um Better ideas. Ashley Depedro: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: Or no scroll uh things. Just a shape. And No, no. Michael Hunter: For the Nathan Lindsey: It won't Michael Hunter: young Nathan Lindsey: work. Michael Hunter: peoples I think scroll Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: button's good. Nathan Lindsey: Uh-huh. Michael Hunter: So Think we have to keep them. Nathan Lindsey: Or a remote control more like joystick. Michael Hunter: Yeah, but is it A small one. Nathan Lindsey: A small one like this, like a Nintendo uh k Michael Hunter: No just like in a Nathan Lindsey: Playstation thing. Michael Hunter: a laptop. Small, round. Then it's not so big. Nathan Lindsey: No, no, no. I mean the the shape of the Michael Hunter: Oh the Nathan Lindsey: remote Michael Hunter: sh Nathan Lindsey: control. Just Michael Hunter: Yeah, Nathan Lindsey: like a Michael Hunter: but Nathan Lindsey: Playstation Michael Hunter: then Nathan Lindsey: thing. Michael Hunter: you can to use t with one hand. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: So Maybe, if it's possible, it's not too expensive, I think a joystick is better. A small one. So, please look at it. Nathan Lindsey: No, that's okay, I got Ashley Depedro: And on the L_C_D_, how much it costs? Uh, it costs extra? Nathan Lindsey: Uh they're not uh in details. It's more expensive or Michael Hunter: Yeah Nathan Lindsey: less Michael Hunter: we Nathan Lindsey: expensive, Michael Hunter: I think Nathan Lindsey: huh? Michael Hunter: you get it. So, after this meeting you have half an hour to uh fix it. Nathan Lindsey: Then I have to come with it. Michael Hunter: Yes. Nathan Lindsey: I got my personal costs. I I don't I don't know the costs. Michael Hunter: Your problem. Not mine. Nathan Lindsey: Then I'll uh make something up. Michael Hunter: Okay. So, do we have other concepts? Then for the components, we use a normal battery. Richard Leslie: Mm, Michael Hunter: Then it's Richard Leslie: yeah. Michael Hunter: Ch cheapest Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, or Michael Hunter: way, Nathan Lindsey: the Michael Hunter: I think. Nathan Lindsey: or the kinetic uh with normal Michael Hunter: No, Nathan Lindsey: battery. Michael Hunter: no kinetic. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, I think it's Michael Hunter: Kinetic Nathan Lindsey: uh, yeah, Michael Hunter: is uh ch makes it more expensive. Nathan Lindsey: more expensive. Yeah. Michael Hunter: So Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Michael Hunter: we use a normal battery. Richard Leslie: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: Okay. Ashley Depedro: Yes. Michael Hunter: Chip. Depends on the L_C_D_. Nathan Lindsey: Depends on the scroll. Michael Hunter: Scroll. Nathan Lindsey: If we use a scroll, then we have the uh regular chip. If we don't use a scroll, then we can use the simple chip. And Michael Hunter: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: that's Michael Hunter: And uh, we If you use the L_C_D_, we have to Nathan Lindsey: Uh the most expensive. Michael Hunter: Yes, Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: okay. So, depends on the L_C_D_ Nathan Lindsey: If we Michael Hunter: and the scroll. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: Okay. Nathan Lindsey: If we No okay scroll-wheel. So, I have this. So, it will be uh the advanced chip, or the uh regu uh or the regular chip. Michael Hunter: Okay. So, uh the shapes of the design depends on the L_C_D_ and But, it has to be small. I think. Nathan Lindsey: Or shall we just put it on the pistol thing? And then just put also on L_C_D_ on it? Michael Hunter: If you have pistol, it L_C_D_'s not easy. Y y Nathan Lindsey: Just use your thumb. Michael Hunter: Yeah but If you use a phone. Nathan Lindsey: If you Yeah. I use my thumb. Michael Hunter: k Yeah, but but then you have it. Like, th if you have pistol, you have it so. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: And the screen is Well, Nathan Lindsey: If Michael Hunter: then Nathan Lindsey: you have Michael Hunter: you Nathan Lindsey: a joystick Michael Hunter: have Nathan Lindsey: on Michael Hunter: to keep it this way to look at the screen. Nathan Lindsey: No, if you have like uh an uh uh a ni a uh Playstation uh game controller. Michael Hunter: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: And you move up, f forward, down, left. Then you have uh just, yeah, a little bit curved. It's not just uh Michael Hunter: No. Nathan Lindsey: straight. Michael Hunter: No, no. Nathan Lindsey: That's how we use it. Ashley Depedro: Uh Nathan Lindsey: That's why they make joysticks like that, I think. Michael Hunter: Yeah, but then Ashley Depedro: Uh, Michael Hunter: you look Ashley Depedro: yeah, but Michael Hunter: forward. And then you can Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Michael Hunter: y Nathan Lindsey: Yeah? Michael Hunter: N well, Ashley Depedro: If you Michael Hunter: if you have to look at it. Nathan Lindsey: 'Kay. Here's our designer. Ashley Depedro: If we have uh then something standing here, with the L_C_D_. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah. Michael Hunter: Then it goes like this. Nathan Lindsey: Yeah, why not. Michael Hunter: If th n well Nathan Lindsey: It's for the younger people. Michael Hunter: Yes, of course. Nathan Lindsey: It's something new. Richard Leslie: It's Michael Hunter: That's Richard Leslie: uh Michael Hunter: good good. But the um, it may not break. Nathan Lindsey: Now we put uh rubber around it. Michael Hunter: Okay. If that's possible. Ashley Depedro: Um, Nathan Lindsey: Hard Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: plastic, uh the shape, and around it hard uh around it rubber. And the uh the hand shape is also rubber. Michael Hunter: Okay. Richard Leslie: Or you Ashley Depedro: I Richard Leslie: can Ashley Depedro: can't Richard Leslie: uh Ashley Depedro: see the. Richard Leslie: turn it inside. Ashley Depedro: But, uh the Richard Leslie: But Ashley Depedro: easy Richard Leslie: that's Ashley Depedro: of uh, th the ease of use wasn't uh the most important uh aspect of it. Nathan Lindsey: Huh. Richard Leslie: No, that's true. Ashley Depedro: Uh, for us it's about to sell it. Uh Michael Hunter: Yeah of Nathan Lindsey: This Michael Hunter: course. Nathan Lindsey: is something new. Michael Hunter: Okay. Then this is the design. And the buttons are on the next page. So, depends on the cost. So, Nathan Lindsey: Costs are okay. Michael Hunter: um we have one minute. Ashley Depedro: One. Michael Hunter: I think. Ashley Depedro: No. Michael Hunter: No. Ashley Depedro: You have more. Michael Hunter: More. Seven. Ashley Depedro: You have still ten. Michael Hunter: Next meeting. Thirty minutes. So hurry up. Nathan Lindsey: Oh, that's us together. Michael Hunter: You two stay here. Paint it. Richard Leslie: Okay. Michael Hunter: Now you have to. So I think it's clear. Check your mail. So Ashley Depedro: Yeah. Nathan Lindsey: Yes. Michael Hunter: It has to be ready in the next meeting. So Ashley Depedro: What? Richard Leslie: Cookie. Ashley Depedro: Okay. Michael Hunter: Next meeting is called the detailed design. So Everyth everything has to be ready. Ashley Depedro: Okay. Michael Hunter: Thanks for your attention. Nathan Lindsey: 'Kay. Ashley Depedro: See you at the next meeting. Nathan Lindsey: Bye bye.

Nathan Lindsey gave a presentation on the interface concept, discussing which buttons will be needed and then looking at some examples of existing remote controls. He suggested using a yellow case with rounded edges and the logo at the bottom, and large, clearly marked buttons. The interface expert informed the group that young people like curved shapes, soft materials and primary colours, and suggested making a hand-shaped remote in plastic and rubber. He talked about the possibility of using a scroll button, and the different chips which could be used. The group discussed using an LCD screen, but did not have enough information about costs to make a decision. Ashley Depedro talked about new trends, including the trends for spongy materials and fruit and vegetable themed products. The group had a discussion and decided to create two designs, one with an LCD screen and one without, and the interface designer drew them on the board. They put off making a final decision about using an LCD screen, scroll buttons and a menu button until they could find out about costs.

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Brian Landres: Good Joseph Couper: G Brian Landres: morning, Flores. Joseph Couper: good morning. Brian Landres: Marketing Expert. Joseph Couper: Oh yeah. Brian Landres: Right. Joseph Couper: Are you ready? You should put the laptop uh right into the square. Brian Landres: For the cameras Joseph Couper: For i for the cameras, yes. Brian Landres: Alright. Joseph Couper: Good morning, Sebastian. Floyd Pope: Good morning, Mister P_M_. How are you today? Joseph Couper: I'm fine. Floyd Pope: How was your business trip to Boston? Joseph Couper: Um well, actually I didn't go, Brian Landres: Geez. Joseph Couper: didn't feel like it. So Do you want to open it as read-only. Um I guess I should close it here. Brian Landres: You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um sen oh stand-by. Close the the Dane Caverly: Okay. Brian Landres: window. Joseph Couper: Okay, the waiting Brian Landres: So Joseph Couper: is for our Marketing Expert, Brian Landres: That's Joseph Couper: Ruud. Brian Landres: right. Ruud. Joseph Couper: Um project kick-off. Floyd Pope: Is there a schedule for this meeting? Joseph Couper: Yes, there is actually. Um I will li list the agenda for today. For this meeting. Good morning, Ruud. Dane Caverly: Good morning. Joseph Couper: Uh it's important um Floyd Pope: I shall close the door. Joseph Couper: yeah, great. It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square, um for the cameras. Okay. Joseph Couper: Okay. Um we're here to develop uh a new product. Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager Brian Landres: Mm-hmm. Joseph Couper: about it. Um and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it. Um you are here in a specific role. Uh Ruud is here as Dane Caverly, Roo is here as Brian Landres and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer. Is that correct? Floyd Pope: That's correct. Brian Landres: Mm-hmm. Joseph Couper: Okay. Um we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here. Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan, uh and we will have a discussion. Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes, so Brian Landres: Alright. Joseph Couper: we Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: should keep that in mind. Floyd Pope: Um is there any room for a little presentation? Uh maybe during the discussion uh Joseph Couper: There is? Floyd Pope: section? Joseph Couper: Yeah, there is. Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: No problem. Um okay, this new product we are are g are going to develop, um it's a remote control, a television remote control. Um and first of all it should be original, it should be trendy and user-friendly. Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals, um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop. Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and Brian Landres: Okay. Joseph Couper: all those kind of things. The market, we should have a look at the market. Um we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development, um which consists of three different design stages. Uh the functional design, the conceptual design and the detailed design, um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work, prepare, and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the the Brian Landres: Progressions. Joseph Couper: the progressions, yes. Um the first stage, the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements, and we will um make a specific uh specification of that. Um the second is the technical functional design, um what effect should the remote have? Well in this case control t the the television Brian Landres: It's for the Joseph Couper: I Brian Landres: vision. Joseph Couper: think. Brian Landres: Yeah. Joseph Couper: Um and the last one is the working design. How exactly does it work in the technical sense. Um the other design stages, uh we will discuss that later. So we'll kop it keep it with the functional design. Okay, um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here. Um as you see now I can give a presentation. Um it's also possible to use this one as well. You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to. Um to um presentate, to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder, which is on your desktop, at least it should be. Um then we have this electronic white-board system. Um yeah, I will show that now. Um you can draw on the board using this pen. There are little um uh Brian Landres: Sensors. Joseph Couper: sensors, so do not grab it here, but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end. Um well, it it's on the um eraser now, so we click the pen button. Joseph Couper: Okay, so not too fast writing. Um you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button. It's quite the same. Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file. So do not m make a new file. Just use this one uh during the day. Um you can use the eraser to make something go away. Brian Landres: But we all use the same white-board file Joseph Couper: Yes. Brian Landres: So we can work together on it while we're or Joseph Couper: Yeah. Brian Landres: should we only use it in? Joseph Couper: Yeah, in the meetings, only in the Brian Landres: Yeah, Joseph Couper: meetings. Brian Landres: okay. Joseph Couper: It's really like like a regu Brian Landres: Yeah, alright. Joseph Couper: regular whiteboard. Brian Landres: Yep. Joseph Couper: Um you can choose the format, um sorry. Uh Let Dane Caverly see. Um Well I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected. Yep. Current colour, you can choose another colour. And um for example black, and you c I can choose the line width. Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour. Okay. Quite easy, do have any questions, just c ask Dane Caverly. Um to um oh well, I'm I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us. Um as a little training um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected. Dane Caverly: Okay. Dane Caverly: Um green. Dane Caverly: An animal. Okay. Um Dane Caverly: Uh Brian Landres: It's a bunny. Dane Caverly: a wee rabbit. Joseph Couper: A rabbit. Floyd Pope: Alright. Joseph Couper: Okay, well great. Um Roo, could you do the same please? Brian Landres: But of course, Joseph Couper: But Brian Landres: Flores. Joseph Couper: a different animal with a different colour and a different line width. Brian Landres: Blank. Joseph Couper: Sebastian is thinking about the animal. Floyd Pope: I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal. Joseph Couper: Okay. Brian Landres: Yeah, I'm think about it too. Format. Brian Landres: Well, it looked more than a bunny than a cat, but it works, right? Joseph Couper: It it should be a cat. Dane Caverly: Yeah. Joseph Couper: Okay? Floyd Pope: Well, I'll give it a try. Floyd Pope: Mm. Joseph Couper: I'm guessing a horse. Floyd Pope: Very good. Brian Landres: With a very small legs. Floyd Pope: I very good in drawing. Brian Landres: You should feed that uh that animal. Floyd Pope: Well, I guess you uh get the idea. Joseph Couper: Yes, okay. Floyd Pope: Beautiful. Joseph Couper: Beautiful. Okay, so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to. Um any questions well, just just let Dane Caverly know. Um okay, back to our project. Um the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros. Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros, which is quite a number. Um we uh we will focus this internationally, so the product will be sold um, if there is market uh interest, uh in in more than one country. And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty, so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development, um because uh, well, those are important numbers. Um then the discussion, maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation. Floyd Pope: Yes, um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion, because uh there might be some uh Joseph Couper: Limitations. Floyd Pope: influations influences. Joseph Couper: Okay. Brian Landres: Okay. Floyd Pope: Okay? Joseph Couper: Okay, great. Floyd Pope: Okay. Um first about my role, role of Floyd Pope. I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things, and the technical possibilities and impossibilities. So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas, uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions, but uh there might be some impossibilities. So that's one. Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that, but well, these are quite the same. Sorry about that. Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product. Brian Landres: Okay. Floyd Pope: I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion. One thing about uh interopera operability. Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device diverse subset of equipment. Uh for instance, uh D_V_D_ players, cell phones, video and audio equipment. So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment. Brian Landres: And for a cell phone? Floyd Pope: Well, there should be some interoperabi Brian Landres: Yeah, Floyd Pope: interoperability Brian Landres: okay. Floyd Pope: between them. Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: I think it could come in handy. We should discuss that. Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other. We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore, so infrared is not uh is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore. But you should uh think about the things Brian Landres: But Floyd Pope: like uh Bluetooth. Brian Landres: Yeah, but the infrared, it's uh, well, a little bit old-fashioned, if you would Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: call it like that. Floyd Pope: But it's Brian Landres: But Floyd Pope: cost-effective. Brian Landres: all the T_V_s are Floyd Pope: Yes. Brian Landres: uh equipped with infrared, so Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: y Floyd Pope: Well, Brian Landres: you you can Floyd Pope: not all, not all. So that's the point. Brian Landres: Most of them. Floyd Pope: So Brian Landres: Or you shou sh use a you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together Floyd Pope: Maybe, Brian Landres: in one Floyd Pope: but Brian Landres: remote. Floyd Pope: that's uh something we should discuss Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: and uh about every everybody should think about it. So that's just my role, I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input, and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look, Joseph Couper: Yeah. Floyd Pope: but take these things into account when you start the discussion. Joseph Couper: Okay, so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability, Floyd Pope: Yes, so Joseph Couper: and Floyd Pope: one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment, Joseph Couper: Okay, and Floyd Pope: and Joseph Couper: and Floyd Pope: the Joseph Couper: uh Floyd Pope: way of communicating with these equipments. Joseph Couper: Okay. Okay, good. Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: Um that was your presentation? Floyd Pope: That's it. Joseph Couper: Okay, okay. Um okay. Great. Um I'll go back to my own presentation. Um Mm. Okay. Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things. Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications. Um there are other things like um how to make it trendy, which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role. Um the way how it should be controlled by the user, which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part. Brian Landres: Mm-hmm. Joseph Couper: Um so let's start with you. H how do you think the remote should um function for the user? Brian Landres: Well, I had a few uh things in mind. Um well, the interoperability, just like uh Sebastian said, um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um Yeah uh, what is it, devices? Joseph Couper: Yep. Brian Landres: Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store. Floyd Pope: Yes, I think it should Brian Landres: It's not Floyd Pope: be Brian Landres: for Floyd Pope: something Brian Landres: uh Floyd Pope: like Brian Landres: for Floyd Pope: that. Brian Landres: uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product, right? Joseph Couper: Okay, so we're we're going business to consumer, not we're we're it's Brian Landres: Yeah, Joseph Couper: not a Brian Landres: I do I don't know that. It's no I have uh Floyd Pope: We're Brian Landres: don't Floyd Pope: not Brian Landres: have Floyd Pope: developing Brian Landres: the information Floyd Pope: this Brian Landres: for Floyd Pope: product Brian Landres: it. Floyd Pope: for a specific vendor, are Joseph Couper: No. Floyd Pope: we? No, Joseph Couper: No. Floyd Pope: we're Brian Landres: No, Floyd Pope: just Brian Landres: okay. Floyd Pope: developing this product, and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public, so Brian Landres: Yeah. Joseph Couper: Yeah. Floyd Pope: it should fit to every device. Joseph Couper: Uh Ruud, y Dane Caverly: Yeah, Joseph Couper: do Dane Caverly: I Joseph Couper: you Dane Caverly: think Joseph Couper: agree? Dane Caverly: I think they're right, yeah. Joseph Couper: Okay. Okay. Brian Landres: Um Well, the techni fu technical function uh what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_. That's just the basic f technical function. Joseph Couper: Yeah. Brian Landres: So that was my really my part for uh this session. Um Joseph Couper: So is that Floyd Pope: Yeah. Joseph Couper: ease of use or uh is that more like um Brian Landres: Well, that's just the fu the technical function is pure what should the remote control do, wh what is his task uh Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: as an uh as an uh device. It just should change the T_V_'s Joseph Couper: Okay. Brian Landres: state. So that's it. Um but Floyd Pope: And Brian Landres: furthermore Floyd Pope: you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this? Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: Or are there any o other Brian Landres: Yeah, Floyd Pope: controls? Brian Landres: with buttons. Floyd Pope: Are there Brian Landres: Yeah, Floyd Pope: only Brian Landres: or Floyd Pope: any other Brian Landres: maybe Floyd Pope: cont Brian Landres: you want a touch-screen or Floyd Pope: Well, Brian Landres: But Floyd Pope: I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward, Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: sidewords. Joseph Couper: Uh-huh. Floyd Pope: You know these things. And um it's Brian Landres: They're Floyd Pope: very Brian Landres: very vu Floyd Pope: easy Brian Landres: vulnerable. Floyd Pope: for a user to to switch w yes, Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_, on on a chapters, you know, on a D_V_D_ player. So maybe that's an idea, I don't know. Brian Landres: Yeah. And for other user interface I had um, well, it's more industrial thing. Uh point at a T_V_, I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: point directly to the T_V_, so you must point everywhere, so Floyd Pope: Okay. Brian Landres: maybe infrared Joseph Couper: Maybe Brian Landres: is Joseph Couper: not even pointed. Brian Landres: Yeah, Joseph Couper: Yeah. Brian Landres: just don't even point it, so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: that. Joseph Couper: Okay Floyd Pope: Uh Joseph Couper: Uh Floyd Pope: is that uh are there restriction for the range, the operating range too? So when you're not able to point at the device um Brian Landres: Yeah, if you Floyd Pope: the Brian Landres: g Floyd Pope: range Brian Landres: if you Floyd Pope: is Brian Landres: go to Floyd Pope: very Brian Landres: radio Floyd Pope: limited. Brian Landres: or or yeah. For T_V_, you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_, so I don't think think the range should Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: be a problem to Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: that, but if you want to uh get it working with a radio, and you're in outside your garden with just one uh speaker, Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: then maybe the range should be uh Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: Okay, Brian Landres: But Joseph Couper: gentlemen, um uh just a reminder, we d we have five minutes left for Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: this meeting Brian Landres: Yeah. Joseph Couper: um Brian Landres: Two more things. Joseph Couper: okay. Brian Landres: Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons, so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand. You Joseph Couper: Okay, Brian Landres: must feel Joseph Couper: s Brian Landres: the buttons for Joseph Couper: yeah. Brian Landres: volume or whatever, I think. Joseph Couper: Yeah. Brian Landres: And of course you don't always know where all buttons are, so it should be visible al um in dark too. So Joseph Couper: Okay. Brian Landres: when it's dark Those are two really uh user interface Joseph Couper: Uh I'll write down glow in the dark. Brian Landres: Yeah. That's Joseph Couper: Is tha Brian Landres: perfect. Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: Okay. Okay, Floyd Pope: Do Joseph Couper: um Floyd Pope: do you Joseph Couper: uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting. Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the such a product? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product? Dane Caverly: Uh I think most most things have already been said, like uh control multiple devices. Joseph Couper: Mm-hmm. Dane Caverly: And uh, yeah, infrared might be an issue. Joseph Couper: Because? Dane Caverly: Uh well, he said about n abo what he said about pointing. Joseph Couper: Mm-hmm. Dane Caverly: But uh lots of devices already use infrared. So implement that. Joseph Couper: Okay. Okay. Joseph Couper: Okay, Sebastian, did you have any other Floyd Pope: Um Joseph Couper: ideas? Floyd Pope: well yes, I had, uh about three minutes ago, but I've seem to forget them forgot them. Um oh yes, I remember. Um you said something about visibility in the dark. Um Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control, on which you can see functions? Which makes it easier to operate Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: it. Brian Landres: Well, maybe I um but Floyd Pope: I Brian Landres: it Floyd Pope: I don't Brian Landres: it Floyd Pope: know. Brian Landres: can be quite simple, you can just have white buttons Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: with a black mark Floyd Pope: Okay. Brian Landres: on it. The uh the the digits in Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Brian Landres: black. Uh then it's already visible in dark. Floyd Pope: Okay. Brian Landres: So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy well, Floyd Pope: Okay. Brian Landres: it can Joseph Couper: Okay. Brian Landres: be for Joseph Couper: Yeah, Brian Landres: design, Joseph Couper: yeah, Brian Landres: of course. Joseph Couper: okay, because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product. Floyd Pope: Yes, but Joseph Couper: So Floyd Pope: there's a cost limitation too. Well, that's Joseph Couper: Yeah, Dane Caverly: Yeah. Floyd Pope: more Joseph Couper: twelve Euro fifty, Floyd Pope: So Joseph Couper: yeah. Floyd Pope: that's a big problem, I think. I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product. The Joseph Couper: Okay. Floyd Pope: cost price is very low. Um Brian Landres: Just remind something. The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade. Joseph Couper: Okay, Floyd Pope: Okay. Brian Landres: You have a m Floyd Pope: Very Joseph Couper: okay. Brian Landres: uh Floyd Pope: good point. Yeah. Brian Landres: Always have s the soft buttons, always uh clear the the the paint on it. The marks. Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: Okay, um I ha I have one point f um which which comes in mind now. Um uh d I think the device should either be rechargeable very Floyd Pope: Mm-hmm. Joseph Couper: easily Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: um or it should not consume too much um power. Because it's very annoying if you need to change the batteries every s uh uh every other week. Brian Landres: Yeah. Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: So um maybe we could um for example uh only Brian Landres: But um Joseph Couper: light the buttons that are um Brian Landres: Necessary, Joseph Couper: uh applicable at that Brian Landres: yeah. Joseph Couper: moment or yeah. I dunno, it's uh that's more Sebastian's Brian Landres: Yeah. Joseph Couper: uh um Floyd Pope: Hmm. Brian Landres: But then Bluetooth uh might be problem. 'Cause I think Bluetooth uh Floyd Pope: It's use uh a lot of uh Brian Landres: Yeah, Joseph Couper: Well Floyd Pope: well Joseph Couper: does Brian Landres: I know Joseph Couper: it? Brian Landres: it from the cell Joseph Couper: I'm Brian Landres: phone. Joseph Couper: not sure. Floyd Pope: Well, Joseph Couper: Uh Floyd Pope: cell phones have uh integrated Bluetooth also and, well, it's it seems to work uh quite okay. Joseph Couper: Yeah. Brian Landres: But Floyd Pope: technically Brian Landres: you can't Floyd Pope: it will Brian Landres: you Floyd Pope: be Brian Landres: can't Floyd Pope: possible. Brian Landres: use Bluetooth all the time, twenty four hours a day. Floyd Pope: No, Joseph Couper: Okay. Floyd Pope: you cannot. Brian Landres: Does it Joseph Couper: Gentlemen, Brian Landres: It's over? Joseph Couper: I'm Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: afraid we do not have any more time. Um Floyd Pope: Okay. Joseph Couper: so we will go back to our own uh work. Um next meeting starts in thirty minutes and um, well, you know your o your individual actions or your personal coach will probably email you about th it. Um so this was it. Brian Landres: Okay. Joseph Couper: See you in thirty minutes. Brian Landres: Great.

Joseph Couper opened the meeting and introduced the project, describing what the project would involve, the role of each participant and the agenda for the first meeting. He the demonstrated the equipment the group would be using, and the group practiced using the SMARTboard by drawing their favourite animals. Joseph Couper then went over the project budget. Floyd Pope gave a brief presentation about his role and his initial ideas for the project, suggesting that the remote should be used for multiple devices and that the group should consider using bluetooth rather than infrared. Joseph Couper then asked the others about their initial ideas. Brian Landres agreed that the remote should control multiple devices. They also discussed having glow in the dark buttons, using bluetooth instead of infrared and using a display and/or a joystick instead of conventional buttons. However, they were unsure about what the budget would allow. Joseph Couper suggested that the remote should be rechargeable or not use much power, but this might be difficult if using bluetooth. Joseph Couper closed the meeting.

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Timothy Rodgers: That's the same as uh on the top of it uh with the the round uh William Kelly: Like Timothy Rodgers: button. William Kelly: this one. Timothy Rodgers: But uh we don't uh we don't uh we do think it's um well William Kelly: It's Timothy Rodgers: what William Kelly: important. Timothy Rodgers: if with ease of use, w which prefers the which the the customer of William Kelly: Uh Timothy Rodgers: the William Kelly: I Timothy Rodgers: user William Kelly: think Timothy Rodgers: prefers. William Kelly: th this is device which which has a learning curve. Um novice users u use this device as uh normal users use uh a c a remote control. And after a while they start to develop uh some skills in the the voice recognition functions, and then they will not use this dial as often. But other David Wirt: Okay. William Kelly: users who are new to this device need something like that. They n they need understand what uh channels and uh change the volume, so it's easier for them David Wirt: Could could I see the scroll bar as as as a sort of shortcut? William Kelly: Yeah, maybe David Wirt: A William Kelly: so. David Wirt: a and William Kelly: Yes, David Wirt: the voice William Kelly: it's David Wirt: recognition as well, th maybe you could uh William Kelly: Well, David Wirt: could William Kelly: it's David Wirt: uh William Kelly: it's it's another approach, it's more that our um. There are there are many ways of doing uh things uh on such a device. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: It's David Wirt: Okay. William Kelly: it's quite easy. David Wirt: Okay, good. And and the case is is rubber? William Kelly: Yes, rubber? David Wirt: And the buttons? Timothy Rodgers: Plastic William Kelly: There are Timothy Rodgers: or rubber. William Kelly: plastic Timothy Rodgers: Well, William Kelly: or rubber. Timothy Rodgers: yeah. David Wirt: Okay, and uh the colouring? William Kelly: Uh yellow with uh David Wirt: with with grey or black. William Kelly: grey or black or something like that. Whatever cost uh cost uh the least. David Wirt: Okay, we'll we'll come to that later. Um okay. Anything else to add or William Kelly: No. Uh maybe we should uh think about these buttons. David Wirt: Yeah. George Cervone: Well, you William Kelly: But George Cervone: could use two of them to um channels on the channel button, 'cause William Kelly: Yes, George Cervone: you have William Kelly: but George Cervone: to William Kelly: it but these George Cervone: assign William Kelly: are tasks George Cervone: two channel William Kelly: that are only George Cervone: new channels. William Kelly: executed once, I think. David Wirt: M uh William Kelly: Or David Wirt: yeah. William Kelly: not? David Wirt: M m but maybe you George Cervone: You David Wirt: want a button to uh for example the voice recognition, or William Kelly: Well David Wirt: train William Kelly: okay. David Wirt: the voice. William Kelly: Okay, yeah, that's right. Or something Timothy Rodgers: And William Kelly: li Timothy Rodgers: a button William Kelly: like that. Timothy Rodgers: for disabling the voice recognition. David Wirt: Yeah al although by pressing the button for I n don't know two, three seconds, you could also say it you'd disable it William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: with a little beep and Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. David Wirt: and but o okay, that that's not really really important. Timothy Rodgers: That's the basic idea, yeah. David Wirt: The basic okay. Timothy Rodgers: Of our prototype. David Wirt: Okay. Um you thought of some evaluation crit criteria? George Cervone: Yes. David Wirt: Okay. George Cervone: Uh my name is not name but David Wirt: You are nameless. George Cervone: Uh well, I used the the uh documents. And these uh were the most important criteria. It should be. yeah, William Kelly: Is it spongy? George Cervone: that's uh how the fashion guys uh state it. Fancy look and feel. So Timothy Rodgers: So just walk through it step by step. mean, is it fancy, everything I believe uh George Cervone: Uh well Timothy Rodgers: I George Cervone: appar Timothy Rodgers: believe it's fancy. William Kelly: I believe it's fancy too. George Cervone: Yeah, David Wirt: No. Timothy Rodgers: Oh, George Cervone: So Timothy Rodgers: sorry. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: Okay, so this these are the cr uh the criteria. George Cervone: Yeah, I think these are the most important David Wirt: Okay, George Cervone: criteria. David Wirt: well George Cervone: So uh that's about David Wirt: the George Cervone: it. David Wirt: then we'll switch to my presentation. Um David Wirt: The production costs. The costs are not under Can I David Wirt: Um this is the Timothy Rodgers: Twenty two. David Wirt: Yeah, it's it's Timothy Rodgers: Yikes. David Wirt: w way above um uh above the the the twelve Euro fifty. And what makes it very expensive is uh for example the solar cell. William Kelly: Well it's David Wirt: So William Kelly: very expensive. David Wirt: I guess we should skip that, because it's not that important. William Kelly: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: Why does the price and and the s oh, one uh exa David Wirt: Yeah, the Timothy Rodgers: yeah. David Wirt: the price, the the number Timothy Rodgers: The number David Wirt: of items Timothy Rodgers: of uh David Wirt: and Timothy Rodgers: yeah. David Wirt: the the sum. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: Um well, this is what I would call our luxury model. Um Timothy Rodgers: And and David Wirt: if you Timothy Rodgers: does David Wirt: would Timothy Rodgers: it David Wirt: if you look at the uh w w w what we could do to make it more um to make it just between the twelve Euro fifty, um then I did the following changes. Twelve Euro forty cents I came up with by leaving out the solar cells, William Kelly: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: um by not using the voice recognition feature, William Kelly: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: because it's uh it's a four Euro uh addition to the price. Um Yeah, I believe Uh, push-button, well It makes it the thirteen yeah. Push-buttons are buttons are are not the most expensive, but do add extra cost. William Kelly: Hmm. David Wirt: So um yeah, th this design is not um within our price model. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: Um William Kelly: But I'm afraid it's not complete. Because we use spec uh specic uh special materials, the last item. And you have not added one item there. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So it's c way too expensive. David Wirt: It's still too expensive, yeah. Timothy Rodgers: But David Wirt: Um Timothy Rodgers: that's that's only for the buttons. So David Wirt: I I guess Timothy Rodgers: the button David Wirt: if we Timothy Rodgers: we David Wirt: leave Timothy Rodgers: can use David Wirt: the Timothy Rodgers: plastic. David Wirt: if we leave this one out, um oh. And uh maybe not Timothy Rodgers: And David Wirt: use Timothy Rodgers: the pla David Wirt: the Timothy Rodgers: uh David Wirt: special form. Timothy Rodgers: And a plastic b just plastic buttons, William Kelly: But Timothy Rodgers: a plas William Kelly: it Timothy Rodgers: uh instead of rubber. David Wirt: It becomes a very dull remote William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: control, I know. But it's the board decision. Um And um yeah. William Kelly: Well, b basically it when when this is our only option, we should even consider changing the casing, because I think there's very little added value in David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: uh an enhanced case with these dull functions. David Wirt: Yeah, I William Kelly: So David Wirt: know. Maybe we should look at an uh focus on another uh William Kelly: Type of m maybe David Wirt: Yeah, William Kelly: another David Wirt: m William Kelly: market David Wirt: uh maybe William Kelly: segment. David Wirt: not not all that fancy, but just way way more easy uh uh William Kelly: Yeah. David Wirt: um basic William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: and uh m maximise the profits and um William Kelly: That's maybe that's better. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: Maybe we could uh we should go for straight and simple, David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: but that's not what uh has been asked. David Wirt: I know, I know. William Kelly: So we should kick the board's uh Well David Wirt: Yeah. Although I think we yeah, but we could still make uh a remote control that ap uh um applies um more to young people uh by giving it another colour already. William Kelly: Hmm. David Wirt: Um so it is possible to make uh uh a device that attracts a little bit more to young people. William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: Um but uh I agree it's it's not a fancy high-tech uh device. Definitely not, no. It's not that innovative. Or however you s pronounce that. Um Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, too bad. David Wirt: so, okay. Um Oh, this is the wrong one. So uh that means redesign. We do not have the time o uh now to to redesign the product. Timothy Rodgers: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: Um but we can evaluate the process and um uh uh the satisfaction on how things went. Um I'm not sure if we need to evaluate uh the device first. I guess George Cervone: Um well, since we're not gonna manufacture it anyway David Wirt: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. William Kelly: Well, maybe it's good to do it anyway, because if we David Wirt: We William Kelly: evaluate David Wirt: l we can learn. William Kelly: it, we we can also determine if our David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: objectives are good. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So David Wirt: I agree. Well William Kelly: Is it fancy? David Wirt: I d it George Cervone: Uh David Wirt: is it is George Cervone: Yay. Is it? Is it fancy? David Wirt: Yeah, Timothy Rodgers: Um David Wirt: I think Timothy Rodgers: the yellow David Wirt: so. Timothy Rodgers: rubber, William Kelly: I think so. Timothy Rodgers: I think so. David Wirt: You like the rubber, uh Roo. Timothy Rodgers: I'm into it. George Cervone: So uh one? William Kelly: But David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: it's not that fancy. David Wirt: No, William Kelly: I David Wirt: I'll William Kelly: mean David Wirt: I'll I'll give it a two. William Kelly: I think uh I think it would have been more fancy if we used the titanium housing the casing. It would be David Wirt: You William Kelly: even David Wirt: like William Kelly: more David Wirt: tita William Kelly: oh, you really like titanium. I'm I'm into it. David Wirt: That's a flavour as well. William Kelly: It has flavour. Yes, that's right. You should taste it. David Wirt: Right. Um George Cervone: Is it uh David Wirt: Yeah, I know, but but it but that's fancy in the way um I mean fancy has has a lot of William Kelly: It has to do with fashion, I guess. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So do Timothy Rodgers: It's trendy George Cervone: And Timothy Rodgers: trendy, George Cervone: w Timothy Rodgers: fun George Cervone: yeah, Timothy Rodgers: yeah. George Cervone: w what they want wanted was uh colours and soft materials. So David Wirt: Yeah. George Cervone: in that way David Wirt: It applies. It George Cervone: It David Wirt: yeah. George Cervone: it's fancy. Timothy Rodgers: Well, just William Kelly: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: give it a two. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: Yes. I Timothy Rodgers: It's William Kelly: think Timothy Rodgers: not the William Kelly: I Timothy Rodgers: ultimate William Kelly: th I think Timothy Rodgers: uh fancy William Kelly: it would have Timothy Rodgers: two, William Kelly: been Timothy Rodgers: but William Kelly: I would have think uh it could have been more fancy by using the double-curved case. It would have been even more fancy, but we decided not to, because if we use a double-curved Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, but that's sti that's William Kelly: case, Timothy Rodgers: uh William Kelly: we could not use solar. So Timothy Rodgers: Looking at the user uh needs, we only uh don't we don't have the double-curved case. We w we do have uh the rubber, we do have the colours. That's two out of three. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: So I believe uh we are close uh to David Wirt: Yeah, Timothy Rodgers: two. David Wirt: I I agree. William Kelly: Yes, I agree too. It's okay. We did yes, we did good. George Cervone: Okay, and uh was it innovative? David Wirt: Well, with the voice recognition feature and uh Timothy Rodgers: But that's not in it. George Cervone: Yep. Timothy Rodgers: Ov or can we David Wirt: No, William Kelly: Well, David Wirt: we William Kelly: let's David Wirt: are William Kelly: let's David Wirt: evaluating William Kelly: this David Wirt: this William Kelly: product. David Wirt: this uh design Timothy Rodgers: Okay. David Wirt: now. William Kelly: So David Wirt: This William Kelly: I David Wirt: prototype. William Kelly: I I think it is. I think it's innovative. David Wirt: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: And the scroll uh wheel. The solar not many remotes have the solar, I think. William Kelly: No. It could have been a little bit more innovative u by using the kinetic uh energy source, George Cervone: Yeah, William Kelly: but George Cervone: and William Kelly: it's George Cervone: uh William Kelly: it's David Wirt: That William Kelly: way David Wirt: would William Kelly: too David Wirt: have been a thrill. William Kelly: yes, but George Cervone: So uh also a William Kelly: I George Cervone: uh William Kelly: think George Cervone: two? William Kelly: uh David Wirt: Yep. William Kelly: it's a two. George Cervone: Is it easy to use? David Wirt: I'm Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. David Wirt: not sure. I'm not sure. Timothy Rodgers: Well yeah, the voice recognition of course is hard to learn, I think. Well, hard it's not for the for the e for the elderly. William Kelly: Well, Timothy Rodgers: They won't use it. William Kelly: but there are two parts in this remote control. What you see here is is the basic part. Everybody can use it, so that's easy to use. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: That's for a novice user. When you have a more advanced, elaborate user, well, such a user really would like to explore all these additional functions. So in that in that way it is advanced, David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: and I think it's easy to use for for both uh types of users. So Timothy Rodgers: I think William Kelly: uh It's maybe it's not very uh Timothy Rodgers: I William Kelly: easy Timothy Rodgers: think a three. William Kelly: for Timothy Rodgers: Wouldn't give it more. David Wirt: Uh I'm doubting doubting as well. Um George Cervone: Well the p the most important function is easy to use. David Wirt: Yeah. George Cervone: The the zapping, channel switching, volume. But the more advanced functions are probably a bit harder. David Wirt: Okay. Uh two or three? Three? Wha wh what would be your guess? I mean William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: ease of use um does not only apply to the most basic functions. It's the uh it's it's overall. Is the device easy to use? William Kelly: Yeah, that's right. You're right in that, but I I guess uh an advanced user will will find the voice recognition function easy to use, David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: because he is already he or she is already an advanced user. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So After David Wirt: Um William Kelly: all, I think personally I would give a two. But David Wirt: Okay. Uh Roo, a three? Timothy Rodgers: Yep. David Wirt: Ruud? George Cervone: Good question. Uh I'll go uh for the two. David Wirt: Okay. William Kelly: So, it's two, two and three. Two threes. So that's David Wirt: So I could William Kelly: ten. David Wirt: make it Timothy Rodgers: If David Wirt: e easy? Timothy Rodgers: you make it a four William Kelly: So that's Timothy Rodgers: it will be three William Kelly: w Timothy Rodgers: in general. William Kelly: No, two and a half. Timothy Rodgers: If he makes it a four. William Kelly: Six Timothy Rodgers: Not a three. William Kelly: and four. Six and four is ten. Divided by four is two and a half. So Timothy Rodgers: Darn. Nee. George Cervone: Hmm? William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: Roo. George Cervone: Huh? Timothy Rodgers: A seven, a three No. George Cervone: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: A four George Cervone: I Timothy Rodgers: and George Cervone: yeah. Timothy Rodgers: a three together. William Kelly: Four? Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, you George Cervone: Yeah, Timothy Rodgers: have a two, George Cervone: two, Timothy Rodgers: he George Cervone: two, Timothy Rodgers: has William Kelly: Two? Timothy Rodgers: a two. George Cervone: three Timothy Rodgers: Three? And David Wirt: No, Timothy Rodgers: a three? George Cervone: No. Timothy Rodgers: Nee. I know. David Wirt: Okay, but if I would say a three, then it's six, and four is ten. William Kelly: Divided by four. David Wirt: Divided by four is two point Timothy Rodgers: Yes. David Wirt: five. Timothy Rodgers: So if you want to have the conclusion as a three three. Then you would make a four. If you fill out a four William Kelly: That's David Wirt: But William Kelly: not David Wirt: I'm William Kelly: even David Wirt: filling in a three. Does it will so it will be a two point five. William Kelly: But that's not possible to fill in, David Wirt: Yes, William Kelly: so David Wirt: it William Kelly: we have David Wirt: is. William Kelly: to round it. David Wirt: I have a veto. Exactly. It's not about the content, it's about okay, um George Cervone: Is David Wirt: is George Cervone: it David Wirt: it George Cervone: easy David Wirt: easy George Cervone: to David Wirt: to George Cervone: find? David Wirt: f Yeah, definitely. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, we haven't re uh re uh really worked it out, but you William Kelly: It Timothy Rodgers: c you William Kelly: it most Timothy Rodgers: can William Kelly: definitely Timothy Rodgers: you William Kelly: is Timothy Rodgers: can William Kelly: it's Timothy Rodgers: just William Kelly: very Timothy Rodgers: say find William Kelly: easy. Timothy Rodgers: and he repeats find. David Wirt: Yeah, or beeps or yeah. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, but William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: that's the that's the the William Kelly: Maybe Timothy Rodgers: basic idea William Kelly: Uh Timothy Rodgers: of the the William Kelly: I Timothy Rodgers: speaker William Kelly: I think Timothy Rodgers: uh William Kelly: I David Wirt: I'm William Kelly: think David Wirt: here, I'm here. William Kelly: something like that. Maybe you have to uh programme it once, David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: so to that l respond to uh a certain word or a David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: certain sentence, something Timothy Rodgers: But even William Kelly: like Timothy Rodgers: without William Kelly: where Timothy Rodgers: it William Kelly: are you, and then it will sing I'm here. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So something like that. So David Wirt: Well, I William Kelly: I, th David Wirt: uh we should not uh stay too long on this subject uh because of the time, but Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. David Wirt: I personally give it a one. Um Sebastian? William Kelly: Yeah, George Cervone too. Timothy Rodgers: George Cervone too. George Cervone: Yeah, I agree. David Wirt: Right, well. The feel of the remote control is spongy. Well, uh it can't be more spongy. So William Kelly: Well, it can be. There are cases um in which the outside casing is um can be uh how d how do you prono is Timothy Rodgers: Was William Kelly: is Timothy Rodgers: it one of our options? William Kelly: moldable. No, it's not George Cervone: No. William Kelly: one of our option, George Cervone: Uh David Wirt: No George Cervone: this David Wirt: okay, William Kelly: but Timothy Rodgers: So, David Wirt: but Timothy Rodgers: in George Cervone: this Timothy Rodgers: the David Wirt: but William Kelly: when George Cervone: was Timothy Rodgers: in William Kelly: you look George Cervone: a most William Kelly: in the market, George Cervone: spongy option. William Kelly: when David Wirt: for the William Kelly: you David Wirt: options William Kelly: look David Wirt: given, it's the most William Kelly: Uh David Wirt: spongy William Kelly: yes, David Wirt: one. William Kelly: but Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. William Kelly: that's not that's not uh what they are talking about, I think. Because we compare all these uh characteristics characteristics with uh market uh with David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: with the real market. So David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: there are uh remote controls out there which are a lot more spongy. They're David Wirt: They're William Kelly: out David Wirt: out William Kelly: there. Timothy Rodgers: But David Wirt: there. Timothy Rodgers: I think in this case in this case we've done the best we could. William Kelly: Yes, David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: but it's not good enough, so it's a two. David Wirt: I'll give it a one. Timothy Rodgers: I wan I'll take one. William Kelly: You take one? What do you give it? George Cervone: Well yeah, it depends, 'cause it's the most spongy we could David Wirt: Yeah, I know, but you have George Cervone: but David Wirt: to name a fig uh a George Cervone: yeah. David Wirt: number. Because we need to go on in for the time. George Cervone: Well, if I give it a one Timothy Rodgers: It will be a George Cervone: there'll Timothy Rodgers: one. George Cervone: be one hell of a calculation. So I'll just give it a two and make this a one point five. William Kelly: No no no. Uh I'll I'll change it, I'll make it m my my mark will be a four. David Wirt: You are okay. The remote control offers enough features. Well, Ruud, what what do you think about it? George Cervone: Well, the basic layout doesn't offem offer much, but the voice recognition could add a lot. So William Kelly: Basically George Cervone: Yeah, depends. William Kelly: it's it's completely programmable. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: You can add very m much functionality by uh using the voice recognition mode. David Wirt: Yeah, I William Kelly: So David Wirt: know. William Kelly: it's quite advanced. David Wirt: What what we didn't talk Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, David Wirt: about Timothy Rodgers: but David Wirt: is Timothy Rodgers: it David Wirt: um Timothy Rodgers: ha David Wirt: uh Timothy Rodgers: doesn't has the digits. I believe it's If you uh ask yourself it offers enough features, I don't I don't think it is it has all the features um a normal remote has. David Wirt: I think it has. George Cervone: Uh depends on what you David Wirt: Yeah. George Cervone: uh implement David Wirt: Bec George Cervone: in the speech David Wirt: because George Cervone: feat David Wirt: you can um we didn't talk about it, but you do have uh remote controls that are able to adapt another signal. William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: So, you place a a regular uh remote control in front of the other one, hit the one or the two or the three, whatever, and it r records the uh the um the William Kelly: Has David Wirt: the William Kelly: uh the signals George Cervone: Signal. William Kelly: sent Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. William Kelly: to David Wirt: signals. William Kelly: it. David Wirt: So you could uh uh uh enter any comment you like, as long it's able to as long as our device is able to reproduce the infrared signal. So I think th this uh this is uh a a remote control with a very high level of features. William Kelly: Absolutely. David Wirt: Although there are i a few buttons, but William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: the inside is is quite William Kelly: But David Wirt: uh William Kelly: that that's its David Wirt: advanced. William Kelly: power, I guess, because uh a regular programmable uh remote control contains, well, uh really a lot of buttons. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: At at least uh forty buttons. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So it's it's quite s complicated to get uh to get used to. And this is quite s simple. You can David Wirt: Yep. William Kelly: use your voice to to programme it. It's David Wirt: Yeah. Okay, um let's give it a number. I'll give it uh a one. For for the for this t uh type of market, I think it's a one. Timothy Rodgers: I'll give a two. William Kelly: Yeah, I'll give it a one. George Cervone: Um I think think a one, 'cause v with a voice recognition you could add anything you want, so that's like um William Kelly: Yes. I I've I think we've uh succe succeed in in developing a product that's actually quite good, but not for this kind of market, and not for this kind of price. So David Wirt: Yeah. So high quality, low William Kelly: Hmm. David Wirt: acceptance. The product is is is uh b high qua uh has a high quality and and is uh advanced. William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: But whether or not our clients are are um willing to pay twenty five Euros William Kelly: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: for this kind of device is doub is well, is not sure. William Kelly: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: D do you agree? William Kelly: Yes, I agree. George Cervone: Maybe William Kelly: I George Cervone: even because it doesn't look advanced. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: Yeah, okay. David Wirt: Maybe William Kelly: But David Wirt: we should have a radar uh function. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: But we could couldn't uh what what's the selling price? Fifty? David Wirt: Twenty Timothy Rodgers: Uh David Wirt: five Euros. Timothy Rodgers: twenty five. And costs were twelve fifty. David Wirt: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: But even now, if only our production costs w uh were exceeded the double, Think. Production cost was were t uh was twenty two? David Wirt: Mm-hmm. Timothy Rodgers: So uh selling price uh would be uh William Kelly: M about fifty Euros. Timothy Rodgers: yeah. William Kelly: That's quite ex Timothy Rodgers: That's William Kelly: well, Timothy Rodgers: price, William Kelly: it's Timothy Rodgers: but William Kelly: not Timothy Rodgers: w w William Kelly: it's not very expensive for a remote control that Timothy Rodgers: No. William Kelly: that has this functionality. Timothy Rodgers: An original remote control of any T_V_ kind, uh a Phillips remote control, William Kelly: Yes, Timothy Rodgers: y you William Kelly: it's Timothy Rodgers: pay uh William Kelly: more than fifty Euros. It's quite expensive, Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, I kn William Kelly: yes. Timothy Rodgers: I know uh from a few years ago, it it David Wirt: Bu Timothy Rodgers: it David Wirt: but Timothy Rodgers: costed hundred David Wirt: well Timothy Rodgers: Gilders. David Wirt: yeah, I know, but you're paying for th for the brand, because there are uh remote controls which control your stereo, television, D_V_D_, C_D_ William Kelly: Yes. David Wirt: player, William Kelly: Yes, David Wirt: for William Kelly: but you can David Wirt: under William Kelly: you David Wirt: twenty William Kelly: c David Wirt: five Euros. William Kelly: Yes, but you can learn this thing, all these functions. And it's David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: easier to use because those uh remote controls don't offer voice recognition and this one does. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So I think it's worth its price. David Wirt: Okay. Um you had an overall rating. Um George Cervone: Yeah, but uh David Wirt: That's counting. George Cervone: with these ratings uh William Kelly: Well, it's it's about George Cervone: should be about William Kelly: one Timothy Rodgers: Four William Kelly: point George Cervone: one point Timothy Rodgers: six William Kelly: five. Timothy Rodgers: seven George Cervone: s seven, Timothy Rodgers: eight. William Kelly: Something like George Cervone: yeah. William Kelly: that. David Wirt: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: Nine divided by six. David Wirt: Okay. Um we'll go further on with the the rest of the evaluation. David Wirt: About the project itself, not about the product. Um What did you think about uh the process, the project process? Ruud? David Wirt: Try William Kelly: Well David Wirt: to translate that. Timothy Rodgers: Hmm. David Wirt: Any any other Uh, William Kelly: Well, Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, David Wirt: Roo? Timothy Rodgers: I think William Kelly: I think George Cervone: Ye Timothy Rodgers: uh David Wirt: Roo. Timothy Rodgers: The process was good. But w um we weren't aware of the prices of the costs. David Wirt: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: And and that was the the big deal. William Kelly: Mm. Timothy Rodgers: I if we knew that before, William Kelly: Actually, Timothy Rodgers: we c we William Kelly: we had Timothy Rodgers: could have made the the choice David Wirt: Better Timothy Rodgers: between David Wirt: decision. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: what yeah. William Kelly: We had we had too little information actually. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: So And uh um the the the well, looking at room for creativity, there was w way too the the choice David Wirt: Less. William Kelly: of components was way too narrow. So David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: there was not really a process of uh David Wirt: So we could we we could be we could've been creative. But um William Kelly: Well David Wirt: it was tempered by the choice of components and the William Kelly: Yes. George Cervone: The prices. David Wirt: the price. William Kelly: Well, in the first meeting we we already were very creative. We we David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: thought of possibilities who are not possible uh with the the current uh offer of uh manufacturing components. So David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: We're tempered by that, yes. David Wirt: Okay, Roo? Any other thoughts on that? Timothy Rodgers: No, no. David Wirt: Ruud? George Cervone: I agree. David Wirt: You agree, okay. Uh leadership. Timothy Rodgers: Fantastic. David Wirt: Okay, Roo's on for his promotion. William Kelly: Yeah, okay. David Wirt: Okay. William Kelly: I think we're a good team. David Wirt: I think so too, it's it's it's uh of course a laboratory environment. I missed it um to be able to contact you in between William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. David Wirt: and uh say uh, hey Roo uh. Um William Kelly: Well, I tried once, but that was not allowed. David Wirt: Yeah. So um Yeah, but but si uh w w w when taken in account the the situation, uh I think we performed pretty well. William Kelly: I think so too. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. David Wirt: Yeah. Um the means, the SMARTboard, the digital pen. Did you like William Kelly: Uh. David Wirt: 'em? William Kelly: The digital pen was okay, but SMARTboard was really bad. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. William Kelly: It David Wirt: Because William Kelly: it's David Wirt: of the response or William Kelly: The response Timothy Rodgers: Response William Kelly: is Timothy Rodgers: and William Kelly: very slow and the possibilities are very limited. It's not accurate. David Wirt: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: Uh it it David Wirt: Uh Timothy Rodgers: has yeah. Yeah, it's not accurate. The p the pointing of the pen is not um the place where it it writes its um uh where it uh George Cervone: Draws. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, where it draws. It's uh the drawing on on the b on the board is r right from the pen. David Wirt: Okay, so it Timothy Rodgers: So David Wirt: it Timothy Rodgers: uh David Wirt: had to be um Timothy Rodgers: You to take David Wirt: better Timothy Rodgers: in account David Wirt: aligned, Timothy Rodgers: that David Wirt: or Timothy Rodgers: your David Wirt: what's Timothy Rodgers: you David Wirt: the Timothy Rodgers: m David Wirt: word? Uh Timothy Rodgers: yeah uh David Wirt: yeah. William Kelly: Maybe it's it needs to be calibrateds. Timothy Rodgers: It's too slow David Wirt: It it was calibrated just before this meeting. Uh William Kelly: It David Wirt: the William Kelly: is? David Wirt: one before, the third meeting. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: So uh it's not the calibration, it's the thing itself, Timothy Rodgers: Hmm. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: I think. Uh Ruud, w uh did you use the pen a lot? Or George Cervone: No. David Wirt: not at all? Not George Cervone: Not David Wirt: at all. George Cervone: really. David Wirt: Okay. I thought it was quite a handy William Kelly: I David Wirt: uh William Kelly: I think David Wirt: thing, William Kelly: so too. David Wirt: although I would like to see um O_C_R_. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: Yep. William Kelly: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: If it has O_C_R_, uh I think uh I would use, but uh I I just uh took notes David Wirt: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: for myself and and and that's it. It w it w yeah. It was necessary for George Cervone to uh David Wirt: To digitise them. Timothy Rodgers: Yeah, type it. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: Mm-hmm. Timothy Rodgers: I type faster than I write. So David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: But I think it's a great solution for uh for uh a known problem, uh writing down some notes, some some inf uh information, and then um forgetting your notebook somewhere David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: and losing all that information. Because you have everything in one place and it's quite easy quite easy it's it's possible to make this information digital and share it with others in David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: a quite easy way. I think it's a good product. I only think it's th the the shape of the pen is too big. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: It's not quite uh ergonomic. Timothy Rodgers: Economic. William Kelly: Eco ergonomic. David Wirt: I know. Yeah. Okay. Um What w Uh Ruud, what did you think about the SMARTboards? George Cervone: Oh, I only use it to draw a rabbit, David Wirt: Yeah. George Cervone: so David Wirt: Okay, you can't really George Cervone: can't say David Wirt: decide. George Cervone: much about it. David Wirt: No. I missed a feature to easily select uh a slide and uh distribute it to the laptops. I think that would be very easy if you could say okay, I want to use this for my own work or my own presentation further on or William Kelly: Yes. George Cervone: No, or the other Timothy Rodgers: Yeah. George Cervone: way around. David Wirt: Or the other way around, that you William Kelly: Yes, David Wirt: could William Kelly: yes. David Wirt: show but m William Kelly: That's Timothy Rodgers: But William Kelly: quite what George Cervone: Yeah. William Kelly: PowerPoint Timothy Rodgers: y you William Kelly: does. Timothy Rodgers: can if David Wirt: I Timothy Rodgers: you David Wirt: know. Timothy Rodgers: save this image, you can open it in your shared work folder. David Wirt: I know, but Timothy Rodgers: So it's almost yeah. David Wirt: I know, but we couldn't use that feature, so I missed it. Timothy Rodgers: Yep. David Wirt: We weren't able to do that. At least the um I wasn't explained how to Timothy Rodgers: Mm-hmm. David Wirt: do such Timothy Rodgers: A David Wirt: a th Timothy Rodgers: and the function of of filling an an uh William Kelly: An object, Timothy Rodgers: an oval or William Kelly: yes. Timothy Rodgers: an an object. William Kelly: Yes. The drawing Timothy Rodgers: I William Kelly: cap Timothy Rodgers: it's not William Kelly: capabilities Timothy Rodgers: possible William Kelly: are very limited. Timothy Rodgers: yeah. David Wirt: Okay. William Kelly: And and uh w you were when you're using uh Windows, you're used to a certain interface and certain buttons, uh which you can use for drawing. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: And a lot of these buttons don't appear here. So Timothy Rodgers: Oh William Kelly: it's Timothy Rodgers: it looks David Wirt: Okay, Timothy Rodgers: like David Wirt: so Timothy Rodgers: paint David Wirt: y it it's Timothy Rodgers: actually. David Wirt: not even as advanced as paint. William Kelly: Not not uh n not way. David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: It's quite uh limited. David Wirt: Okay. Uh no. Yeah, the project is evaluated. Um but, well, we need to redesign uh William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: the product. William Kelly: Oh, very good, celebration. David Wirt: Celebrate. William Kelly: Pop Timothy Rodgers: Great. William Kelly: uh pop up the champagne. Timothy Rodgers: It David Wirt: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: was a privilege working with you. David Wirt: Um you're dismissed. No, I think we are uh ready. William Kelly: Okay. Timothy Rodgers: To private rooms? William Kelly: I see some action over there. David Wirt: Private room, Roo. That sounds quite scary. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: No, let's find uh the way to. William Kelly: uh we're done, we're finished, I believe. So, are there any more cycles in this process? I think not. David Wirt: I don't believe so. Well, maybe we'd get an email. Thank you for your William Kelly: But um how much time did we get for this meeting? David Wirt: Forty minutes. William Kelly: And how much time is left? David Wirt: A minute or or ten maybe. M William Kelly: Ten minutes. David Wirt: Yeah, ten or five. William Kelly: Okay. Okay. David Wirt: So, we can uh redesign our uh Uh I would like to William Kelly: Well, I think we we we all know what the redesign should be. A simple, dull, uh one-coloured box. George Cervone: And no added value. William Kelly: No, it's George Cervone: At William Kelly: it's George Cervone: all. William Kelly: just the George Cervone: So William Kelly: same product that is already on the market. David Wirt: Oh. Timothy Rodgers: But you see the problem, y David Wirt: Yeah. Timothy Rodgers: you can't continue your uh your line. Well, it's fluffy alright. Spongy. William Kelly: What is that? Timothy Rodgers: A giraffe? David Wirt: Yeah. William Kelly: It's a giraffe eating a eating leaves from a tree. David Wirt: It's blue George Cervone: In David Wirt: tongue. George Cervone: interesting design. David Wirt: Yeah. This is a new model. But William Kelly: So you're actually promoting Bluetooth. Or blue tongue. David Wirt: Blue tongue. George Cervone: Oh uh it it does uh have a natural uh feeling. So David Wirt: It's spongy. George Cervone: Yeah. David Wirt: That William Kelly: Blue David Wirt: is William Kelly: tongue. David Wirt: uh it's a new feature next to Bluetooth to um disable all Bluetooth devices. William Kelly: Okay. David Wirt: Um Timothy Rodgers: Right. William Kelly: Let's wrap it up. David Wirt: Yeah, we're done here. Gentlemen, thank you for your cooperation. William Kelly: Thank you Mister manager. Now, let's have uh a bottle of champagne. Timothy Rodgers: Leave it here. David Wirt: Yes. Timothy Rodgers: That's alright.

Timothy Rodgers and William Kelly presented a prototype drawing of the remote control design. It can be used as a normal remote, but the speech recognition also provides a more advanced alternative interface. The speech recognition works as a finding mechanism as well. The rubber case is yellow with grey or black, with buttons either made of plastic or rubber. An extra button could activate/deactivate the voice recognition. The prototype proved extremely over budget. The main contributing factors were the solar cell and speech recognition. One way to compensate for the loss of features, but still attract their target group, would be to add more colour to the design. After the costing, the original prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad). The criteria used were fancifulness (2), technological innovation (2), ease of use (2.5), whether it is easy to find (1), sponginess (1.5), number of features (1). Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (choices too narrow), leadership and teamwork (happy with it, but they missed communicating in between meetings), and means (SMARTboard was not satisfactory, but the digital pens were alright, but not too useful). The delay in providing costs of components was criticised.

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Fred Odom: Okay, good morning. This is our first Adam Zepeda: Good Fred Odom: team. Adam Zepeda: day. Mark Homer: Morning. Kevin Kincaid: Morning. Fred Odom: I'll be your Project Manager for today, for this project. My name is Mark will be giving this presentation for you to kick the project off. That's my uh that's the agenda for today. Well, of course we're new to each other, so I'd like to get acquainted first. So let's do that first, I mean Let's start with you, can you introduce yourself? You're our Marketing Expert. Mark Homer: Yes. Um my name is Dirk Meinfeld. Um I will be uh Pr Project Mark Homer. And I will see what the user wants and uh what we can do uh with the new produ project product. Fred Odom: Okay, excellent. And Adam Zepeda: Nick Fred Odom: User Adam Zepeda: Broer, Fred Odom: Interface Adam Zepeda: User Fred Odom: Yeah. Adam Zepeda: Interface Designer I'm. going to uh look at the technical design from the uh user point of view. Fred Odom: Excellent. Okay. Kevin Kincaid: My name is Xavier Juergens, I'm the Designer, and there are three main questions that I have to find an answer to today. First one is uh what happens inside the apparatus, second Mark Homer: Hmm. Kevin Kincaid: is what is uh the apparatus made of, and the third is what should it look like. Fred Odom: What should it look like? Okay. Mark Homer: Hmm. Fred Odom: Oh, let's kick it off. Oh, there we go. So, our new project is about we need design a remote control for television set, so, which has to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I took this off our corporate website. It's I think well it sums up what we need to do. We're inspired by latest fashion, not only electronics, but also the latest trends in clothes and interior design. That's why our product will always fit in your home. So apparently we need to um be very at um very open to what's currently hot in the market. So that's what you need Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: to do to bring us the latest info and Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: what people want. So So we put the fashion in electronics. So that's what we need to go for. Anyway, we'll take this project in three steps, three pha uh three phase of design. First step will be the functional design. Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: And that's basically what we're gonna do. Everybody has uh a piece of individual work and a meeting afterwards, so we can share information about So I'm gonna keep this short, since we had a technical problem. So skip through this. Uh. Okay. Every meeting we everybody can present their uh their views and everything, so to help with these, you have we have the SMARTboards here. We can use a regular PowerPoint presentation. I'm supposed to give you an introduction on this doodling board, so it's actually it's very easy. Like it says, very simple, you just take out the pen. Like you see here, I'll just take the take here. That's it, you just put it on the board. You see a pen here. You go here, just like using a pen. You can just draw whatever you want. It's like the eraser, can erase whatever you want. And so it will be easy just to illustrate your views, if you wanna change the format, you just either take out jus just like the pen, and whatever you want, your current colour, your line width, just to make the line bigger. So it should be really easy. Mark Homer: Okay. Fred Odom: This is to take the just take a new slide and back again. We're just gonna keep using this board all the time, so I think it will be it's very clear for everyone, I suppose. So I'll take this out. Okay. We'll use that later. Anyway. Yeah, just just just stuff that you wanna share, just put it in the in the project folder, like I put my presentation now. I'll put the the minutes of every meeting, I'll put them there too, so everybody can read up if they have to leave early or whatever. So next, been here. Well, gonna give the electronic white-board uh a shot. So basic idea is we have a blank sheet. Just try whatever you want, and like it says, draw your favourite animal. I think the creative genius should go first. Adam Zepeda: The creative genius? Thank you very much. Fred Odom: So, draw us your favourite animal. Adam Zepeda: Well, I'm more into the technical aspects of drawing, so I'm not really good Fred Odom: Draw Adam Zepeda: at Fred Odom: us Adam Zepeda: drawing Fred Odom: a technical Adam Zepeda: animals, Fred Odom: animal. Adam Zepeda: but uh the animal which I Oh. Fred Odom: Yeah, it's still erasing. Adam Zepeda: Pen. Uh format. Else my animal will be like king-size. I pretty much like a dolphin, because of its uh its freedom basically. A head. actually worked with this. It's like uh it's a very Uh high-tech. Bit low-responsive though. Prefer pen and paper. Fred Odom: So that's what we don't want. We want a high-responsive product. So It looks more Mark Homer: Very Fred Odom: like nuclear Mark Homer: nice Fred Odom: bomb. Mark Homer: dolphin. Adam Zepeda: It doesn't look like a nuclear bomb. This thing isn't doing what I'm What I want. So Fred Odom: Let's go easy on it. Adam Zepeda: Yeah, well it does look like a nuclear bomb. I'll just finish up real soon, because I'm Adam Zepeda: So it doesn't really look like a dolphin, but then Fred Odom: Anyway, Adam Zepeda: again, Fred Odom: it should Adam Zepeda: this Fred Odom: It Adam Zepeda: is all new Fred Odom: It's Adam Zepeda: for Fred Odom: supposed Adam Zepeda: Mark Homer. Fred Odom: to be a dolphin, you like the freedom that Kevin Kincaid: Uh-huh. Fred Odom: it that it represents. Adam Zepeda: Like the ocean, like swimming. Do that in my spare time, so that's basically an Fred Odom: What do you like? Okay. Well, Adam Zepeda: Now we can forget Fred Odom: our Adam Zepeda: this Fred Odom: Marketing Adam Zepeda: ever Fred Odom: Expert. Adam Zepeda: happened. Fred Odom: Show us an animal. Mark Homer: Um an animal. I like Fred Odom: Pick Mark Homer: the elephant. Fred Odom: a pick a pick a clean sheet. Oh. Mark Homer: What? Fred Odom: Take a clean sheet Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: first. Mark Homer: Um Fred Odom: Just press next. That's Mark Homer: Oh Fred Odom: it. Mark Homer: yeah. Oh, a blank. Okay next, Free, I like the elephant. It's big, it's strong, so uh uh Oh, it's a little bit Adam Zepeda: It's not Mark Homer: You Adam Zepeda: really Mark Homer: have to Adam Zepeda: that Mark Homer: hold Adam Zepeda: responsive, Mark Homer: it, right? Adam Zepeda: no. Kevin Kincaid: Mm. Mark Homer: Hmm. It's a beautiful animal. Mark Homer: Oh, you have to p press it pretty hard. With a smile on it, it's very important. Fred Odom: It's a cute elephant. Mark Homer: Yeah. Mark Homer: And uh not to forget its tail. Oh. Fred Odom: It's a nice beard. Mark Homer: Yeah, it's okay. Adam Zepeda: And you Mark Homer: Yes. Adam Zepeda: was making comments on my dolphin. Mark Homer: I will beat the dolphin. No. Fred Odom: Okay, so it's just a bee. Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: So I suggest you make us the elephant in the market. The big and strong player in the market. Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: This would be good. Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: Okay, excellent. On to the next one. Kevin Kincaid: Okay. Mark Homer: Uh yeah. Kevin Kincaid: Okay, you should press Mark Homer: Yeah. Kevin Kincaid: next. Fred Odom: Press next. Yeah, it's up there. Kevin Kincaid: Okay. Fred Odom: That's it. Kevin Kincaid: Okay, well the animal I'd like to draw is a tiger. Adam Zepeda: You picked a hard one, didn't you? Mark Homer: Experience with the tiger. What? They are Kevin Kincaid: They are really bad, my drawing Mark Homer: Okay Kevin Kincaid: skills. Mark Homer: uh-huh. Fred Odom: Sure looks smooth. Mark Homer: Oh. Kevin Kincaid: I'm not sure how the legs should go, but Kevin Kincaid: Uh these are stripes. Adam Zepeda: Got it. Kevin Kincaid: I've picked this animal because it's very fast. It is uh it knows exactly what it wants. Uh it hardly ever wastes any resources. Fred Odom: What does it want? Kevin Kincaid: Uh well, basically uh it hunts for prey, but it does it always in a very well-thought way. Uh it knows exactly what it wants. It never kills an animal uh just for the killing, so it's very efficient. And it tries to do everything as fast as possible. Fred Odom: Okay. Kevin Kincaid: And it always goes for uh security, in seeking uh uh Mark Homer: Mm. Kevin Kincaid: a hide spot and uh and doing everything, security, speed and efficiency is important. And I think uh those Fred Odom: I agree. Kevin Kincaid: things we can use. Mark Homer: Okay. Fred Odom: Yay, I'm supposed to draw the animal next. I introduce to the world the amazing Fred Odom: ant. Mark Homer: Uh hard worker. Fred Odom: Great team-workers. Mark Homer: Yeah. Kevin Kincaid: Yeah. Fred Odom: Do everything to Uh really small, but together they're really strong. So I'm Mark Homer: Yeah, yeah. Kevin Kincaid: Oh. Fred Odom: gonna give it a smiley face. Not sure where the p. Just put 'em here. Whatever. Think it need shoes. So Fred Odom: That's the coolest ant ever. Adam Zepeda: You've done this before, haven't you? Fred Odom: I love to draw ants. It's my hobby. Anyway Nah. Just I think it's very representative what we drew, I guess. Like you take Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: just take your freedom and use a a trendy interface that you design for us. Just Yeah. You're supposed to make i make it different from uh from what other people have, and just make it a little distinct. Anyway. another beep to stop the meeting. See. Warning. Finish meeting now. Uh put this down. Examples. Well I guess we have a little little time extra, but Just a little quick discussion to to open open our work. So what do you guys think about The first idea is just very short. I'll start with you. What are y What are your first ideas for the new product? Adam Zepeda: Well, I basically Fred Odom: What Adam Zepeda: had a question. Do uh Are we going to introduce a multi remote control? Is it just the T_V_ or do we want to Mark Homer: Uh Fred Odom: The project Adam Zepeda: in Fred Odom: I got was just for a T_V_ remote control. Adam Zepeda: Just for T_V_ Mark Homer: Yeah. Adam Zepeda: remote Fred Odom: Yeah, Adam Zepeda: control. Fred Odom: I guess so. Adam Zepeda: Okay. Well, I was Mark Homer: But Adam Zepeda: thinking about design remote control, with our uh motto and all. Uh thing to keep in mind is that we need to stick to what people are familiar with. Mark Homer: Yeah. Adam Zepeda: No rational changes or whatever, 'cause Fred Odom: Okay, Adam Zepeda: it Fred Odom: so very Adam Zepeda: revolutionary Fred Odom: intuitive design, Adam Zepeda: changes, Fred Odom: I guess. Adam Zepeda: yes. Uh we might have to consider other design aspects of our product. So that was something I wanted to add, and perhaps some usability aspect. T_V_ is becoming central in most homes. Do we want people who are disabled in any way to uh, yeah, Fred Odom: Yeah, Adam Zepeda: to be able Fred Odom: we Adam Zepeda: to Fred Odom: want Adam Zepeda: use it as well? Fred Odom: I suppose we want almost everyone to be using it. So I think I mean, really disabled people, yeah, might be a problem, but I think it's a little take it into consideration. Um yeah. I think we really need to cut the meeting short. You have Kevin Kincaid: Hmm. Fred Odom: anything you Mark Homer: Uh. Fred Odom: wanna share quickly? Kevin Kincaid: Only one thing uh that has to be added according to Mark Homer is uh the the material it is made of, it should be something light. That's Adam Zepeda: Yeah. Kevin Kincaid: it speaks for itself, but Fred Odom: It Kevin Kincaid: some Fred Odom: should be Kevin Kincaid: uh Fred Odom: light, okay. Kevin Kincaid: Yeah. Mark Homer: Yeah. Fred Odom: Um, let's see, where did I Let's skip that. Oh, this is it. Sorry, I skipped Mark Homer: Selling Fred Odom: this sheet. Mark Homer: price. Fred Odom: What do we This Quick What we're going to Selling price, twenty five Euros. That's for you. The production price, twelve and a Kevin Kincaid: Okay. Fred Odom: half Euros, approximately. Just go go for that. We'll Kevin Kincaid: Okay. Fred Odom: reach the uh reach that profit. Adam Zepeda: Okay, well that's not that much Mark Homer: international. Adam Zepeda: to work with. Fred Odom: No, it's not much to work on. I'm sorry, I skipped it. Anyways, that's Yeah, this is it. Do you have anything you you came up with yet? About uh marketing transfer, whatever? Mark Homer: Um about what? Marketing? Fred Odom: Marketing I'm not sure what you what you came up with yet. You have anything to share? Or else we'll cut the meeting just cut the Mark Homer: Um Fred Odom: meeting short since we're supposed Mark Homer: no, Fred Odom: to stop. Mark Homer: not really yet, but Fred Odom: Okay. Mark Homer: I've some ideas and I will uh Fred Odom: Anyways, Mark Homer: say Fred Odom: the Mark Homer: it Fred Odom: the Mark Homer: uh Fred Odom: personal coach will give you the your p your personal assignments and everything. So we'll just meet back in here thirty minutes. Kevin Kincaid: Okay. Mark Homer: Okay. Fred Odom: I'm sure we have that. Kevin Kincaid: Good luck everyone. Fred Odom: Yeah, thanks for attending. Adam Zepeda: Mm, good luck. Fred Odom: I'll see you back here in thirty minutes. Mark Homer: Okay. Mark Homer: Yes.

The goal of the project is to design an original, trendy and user-friendly remote control for TV. The team comprises Fred Odom, Mark Homer, who is looking at user needs, Adam Zepeda, looking at usability, and Kevin Kincaid, working on the engineering and materials. The project will be completed with three further meetings: the following meeting concerns the functional design. Fred Odom gave a quick overview of the equipment available. The remote needs to be produced for 12.50 euros in order to be sold for double that amount. The whole team tried out the SMARTboard, by drawing their favourite animals. Afterwards, they discussed briefly their first ideas, including the use of light materials and usability concerns.

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Thomas Magruder: Did you manage? Wayne Dingus: Yeah, sh not quite. Thomas Magruder: Okay. Wayne Dingus: You will uh Thomas Magruder: Ah. Hello. Andy Clark: Hello. So, are you d what were j you guys discussing? Thomas Magruder: No, just uh ask if if he Wayne Dingus: Woah. Thomas Magruder: could manage. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: Okay. Did you find anything new? Wayne Dingus: Mm uh nothing special. Uh Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Thomas Magruder: I have a lot Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Thomas Magruder: of Wayne Dingus: the Thomas Magruder: new information. Wayne Dingus: for uh Andy Clark: Great, Wayne Dingus: the trendy Andy Clark: great. Wayne Dingus: uh stuff. A little Andy Clark: Come Wayne Dingus: bit. Andy Clark: on. Wayne Dingus: I uh now will show it. Thomas Magruder: Hey, everything alright. Ronald Parker: Well, I had Thomas Magruder: Did you Ronald Parker: just Thomas Magruder: manage? Ronald Parker: a little bit of time so Thomas Magruder: Okay. Wayne Dingus: Okay. Ronald Parker: I hope it's something Andy Clark: What's uh here. Ronald Parker: uh we can work with. But Wayne Dingus: Yeah, I had the same. It just uh Thomas Magruder: Do you have a lot of Wayne Dingus: shuts Thomas Magruder: new information? Wayne Dingus: itself down and Ronald Parker: Hmm? Thomas Magruder: Do you have a lot of new information? Ronald Parker: Well, I heard that there was a new uh component speech recognition component, Wayne Dingus: Oh. Ronald Parker: which was Thomas Magruder: That's true. Andy Clark: And there Ronald Parker: pretty Andy Clark: we are. Ronald Parker: much up to standard, so Thomas Magruder: Huh. Ronald Parker: we might use that I put that in my drawing, but again I didn't not have that much time. So Thomas Magruder: Alright. I have a lot Andy Clark: What Thomas Magruder: of Andy Clark: the Thomas Magruder: new Andy Clark: f oh, yeah Thomas Magruder: information. I have Andy Clark: uh. Thomas Magruder: a complete list of Andy Clark: It doesn't Thomas Magruder: uh Andy Clark: do what I want Thomas Magruder: everything that Andy Clark: it Thomas Magruder: we can use, all the components that all av available. Ronald Parker: Okay, that's just super. Let Wayne Dingus just Thomas Magruder: I still don't have any finance information, but at least we have a lot more to go on now Ronald Parker: uh Andy Clark: Okay fine, that's too bad. Ronald Parker: You need to Andy Clark: Yeah, I have Ronald Parker: start Andy Clark: to start Ronald Parker: it up first? Andy Clark: our Ronald Parker: Okay Andy Clark: 'Kay. Okay, go again. Well second phase, conceptual design. It's fine, everybody knows what we're talking about So. Wayne Dingus: Yep. Andy Clark: take you past the minutes of last meeting again. Again you get your three presentate to see what you came up with. So too bad we don't have any finance information apparently. So that's too bad. So then we'll just have to d uh have to go on, you know, the information that we have to make the make final decisions on uh on a conceptual design. So Here we go. Anyway, last w last w what discussed last time, you all remember that, that we have to keep the electronics size in mind. Same goes for you. We have to have an easy design with big buttons which are durable and there are people actually spen willing to spend money to do to get more features and uh among those features L_C_D_ screen and voice recognition are very popular. So we have to make a move on that area, I guess. S especially s when when the new uh component is applicable in our uh product, we'll be fine. Anyways, well teletext wasn't important and that's what I took. And the consumer, yeah, we aim for young consumers, so that's fine. And well actually we yeah, we did need some more data on finances, but w yeah we still don't have that apparently. Wayne Dingus: Mm uh-huh. Andy Clark: That's too bad. Yeah, we need to im de we are going to implement the beep and the flash thing to recover your remote. So one of these interchangeable covers apparently which will make it a more fashionable product. So anyway. Guess we'll have to do this after the after the you give your presentations. So I'll just close this one now, and let's uh let's see, Ronald Parker: Okay, Wayne Dingus: I Ronald Parker: what Wayne Dingus: bet Ronald Parker: t Andy Clark: We have a lot to tell. You had a lot to go on. So uh how Thomas Magruder: Yep, Andy Clark: about Thomas Magruder: that's Andy Clark: you Thomas Magruder: right. Andy Clark: go first. Ronald Parker: Okay, yeah. Wayne Dingus: Oh okay. Thomas Magruder: Let's see where my presentation is. Okay, um this I mentioned before. Every feature for our remote control needs to have their own operating electronic devices. We need to take care of that. Then warning, uh there has to be a chip in our remote control. And the chip requirements uh needed for a normal button uh is just a simple chip, uh scroll-wheel, and L_C_D_ is an advanced. Of course this is more expensive than this. So we have to decide on that in a minute. Andy Clark: Okay. Thomas Magruder: The available uh components for energy are, we have a basic battery, a hand an uh dynamo, like in uh old torches. We have a kin uh kinetic provision, then you have to shake the remote control to get the energy. And we have solar cells. I suggest that we uh decide on that one uh immediately. Then I have all lists. So My personal Wayne Dingus: Um Thomas Magruder: uh fav favourite is the kinetic provision because uh Andy Clark: Does it provide Thomas Magruder: I ha Andy Clark: enough energy? Thomas Magruder: I think so, yes. Andy Clark: Also if if we were choose the the L_C_D_ option, Thomas Magruder: Yes. Andy Clark: would it give enough energy Okay, Thomas Magruder: Yes. Andy Clark: that's the Thomas Magruder: Because Andy Clark: just assume Thomas Magruder: I had Andy Clark: it Thomas Magruder: the Andy Clark: takes. Thomas Magruder: information uh you take uh the remote control, you pick it up at least two times a day. So then it's already shaken and gives Andy Clark: Well, Thomas Magruder: energy. Andy Clark: I'm not sure if it's Ronald Parker: Is Andy Clark: shaken Ronald Parker: that enough? Andy Clark: enough, because Ronald Parker: Because I don't really see people Thomas Magruder: Or Ronald Parker: shaking their remote Andy Clark: No, Ronald Parker: control Andy Clark: I don't Ronald Parker: before Andy Clark: think so, Ronald Parker: using Andy Clark: because Ronald Parker: it. Andy Clark: uh watches can go on kinetic Thomas Magruder: Think Andy Clark: energy because they move all the time. But I'm sure t I mean remotes lie Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: still I think like Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: ninety nine percent of the time. So I don't think that's a really good the other alternative were solar cells. I don't think that's applicable Thomas Magruder: Other Andy Clark: because Thomas Magruder: options are solar Ronald Parker: No. Thomas Magruder: cells, hand dynamo and basic battery. Andy Clark: I thin Ronald Parker: And Andy Clark: why Ronald Parker: what Andy Clark: why Ronald Parker: does Andy Clark: shouldn't Ronald Parker: the Andy Clark: we Ronald Parker: hand Andy Clark: take a basic Ronald Parker: dynamo Andy Clark: battery? Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: oh, Wayne Dingus: A Ronald Parker: sorry. Wayne Dingus: rechargeable maybe. Thomas Magruder: Only basic battery? Okay, Andy Clark: Why Thomas Magruder: but Andy Clark: not? Thomas Magruder: I think Wayne Dingus: Re Andy Clark: I mean Thomas Magruder: this Andy Clark: everybody Thomas Magruder: is Wayne Dingus: rechargeable Thomas Magruder: not a r. Andy Clark: everybody Wayne Dingus: basi Andy Clark: knows how to use that. It's it's common. So and it's available Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Andy Clark: everywhere. So why sh Thomas Magruder: Yeah, Andy Clark: mm Thomas Magruder: but Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: I think Andy Clark: think Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: this rules Andy Clark: better. Thomas Magruder: out our unit our rechargeable unit. This is really a Andy Clark: Yeah, Thomas Magruder: really Andy Clark: but Thomas Magruder: basic Andy Clark: it's Thomas Magruder: battery, a normal battery. Andy Clark: Yeah, uh Ronald Parker: Oh. Andy Clark: it wasn't it wasn't in the options, Thomas Magruder: Huh? Andy Clark: a rechargeable m module actually. Thomas Magruder: Okay, that's uh. Okay? Andy Clark: Okay yeah, Wayne Dingus: Yep. Andy Clark: b you c of course you Wayne Dingus: Basic. Andy Clark: could place re re-chargeable batteries. But that's up to the consumer himself. So Thomas Magruder: Okay, but then we don't offer a re-chargement function. That's what it says. Andy Clark: Well, mm it's not in the list. So we cannot choose from it. So Thomas Magruder: Exactly. Andy Clark: Okay, Thomas Magruder: Alright. Andy Clark: will just Thomas Magruder: Right. Andy Clark: take regular batteries. Thomas Magruder: Yep. Wayne Dingus: Okay. Thomas Magruder: Next one is curving. Uh we can make a model that has one curve, two or three. And uh Ronald Parker: Curves being? Thomas Magruder: uh th uh the shape. Of course uh the more Wayne Dingus: Okay. Ronald Parker: Of Thomas Magruder: curves Ronald Parker: the Thomas Magruder: the more expensive. Ronald Parker: remote control Thomas Magruder: Exactly. Wayne Dingus: But Ronald Parker: itself, Thomas Magruder: Yes. Ronald Parker: okay. Wayne Dingus: But It Ronald Parker: I Wayne Dingus: dep Ronald Parker: was thinking along the line of one curve. I'll show that in my design. Wayne Dingus: But Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: Okay, we'll get back Ronald Parker: So Andy Clark: on that Ronald Parker: we'll Andy Clark: later. Ronald Parker: get Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: back to that. Andy Clark: Just Thomas Magruder: Hmm. I think one Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: curve is uh Andy Clark: But Thomas Magruder: fine. Andy Clark: what were the implications Wayne Dingus: Depends Andy Clark: if you if Wayne Dingus: on the Andy Clark: put Wayne Dingus: user. Andy Clark: more curves it it's gets more expensive. Thomas Magruder: More expensive. Andy Clark: Okay, Thomas Magruder: More difficult Andy Clark: so I Thomas Magruder: to Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: make. Andy Clark: with with the extras that we had there it's two curves I suppose. Thomas Magruder: Exactly. Andy Clark: Okay. Thomas Magruder: And I believe even that the r the number of options we have on putting things in it uh goes down Andy Clark: Also decreases, Thomas Magruder: with Andy Clark: okay. Thomas Magruder: exactly. Material. I have to offer a plastic, rubber, wood or titanium. Uh if we choose plastic, we cannot choose solar cells for energy. If Andy Clark: Okay. Thomas Magruder: we choose titanium, uh we cannot use more than one curve. But we don't Andy Clark: More Thomas Magruder: have that Andy Clark: than Thomas Magruder: so Andy Clark: one Thomas Magruder: fast. Andy Clark: curve, uh yeah Ronald Parker: Okay, Andy Clark: okay. Ronald Parker: I t Andy Clark: We'll just go Ronald Parker: I'd Andy Clark: uh Ronald Parker: go for plastic because Andy Clark: 'Cause Ronald Parker: I Andy Clark: it Ronald Parker: have Andy Clark: yeah, Ronald Parker: a Andy Clark: I'm Ronald Parker: couple Andy Clark: not sure. Ronald Parker: of curves in my Thomas Magruder: Mm. Ronald Parker: design. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: Mm. Ronald Parker: Well, g let's Andy Clark: We'll discuss Ronald Parker: just Andy Clark: that Ronald Parker: get Andy Clark: later. Ronald Parker: back Andy Clark: Okay, Ronald Parker: to Andy Clark: we have Ronald Parker: that. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: so I think Thomas Magruder: Okay. Andy Clark: we can rule out um I'm not sure we can rule anything out. We'll do that Thomas Magruder: No. Andy Clark: when y when you get your design. Thomas Magruder: But I think wood is not an option either. Ronald Parker: No, wood's Andy Clark: No, wood Ronald Parker: not Andy Clark: i wood's Ronald Parker: an Andy Clark: not Ronald Parker: option. Andy Clark: an option. Ronald Parker: No. Andy Clark: Well Thomas Magruder: Okay. Andy Clark: it it's stylish, but we can yeah, Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: but you can Wayne Dingus: No. Andy Clark: change your covers anyway. Thomas Magruder: Okay. My personal thought was uh rubber because I had an email, I believe it was from you, Andy Clark: Yeah, is Thomas Magruder: uh Andy Clark: it Thomas Magruder: f Andy Clark: keep in Thomas Magruder: against Andy Clark: mind that Thomas Magruder: falling. Andy Clark: it it's it's uh it fal uh remote controls fall a lot on the ground. So you don't want it to break. So either have rubber edges Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: or a rubber remote control is Thomas Magruder: Okay. Andy Clark: very durable. But Ronald Parker: Yeah, Thomas Magruder: Uh Andy Clark: Continue. Ronald Parker: but it doesn't Wayne Dingus: No. Ronald Parker: have to be unbreakable, because we Andy Clark: Don't have to be un-breakable, Ronald Parker: do need Andy Clark: it's Ronald Parker: to keep Andy Clark: p it's Ronald Parker: selling Andy Clark: a Ronald Parker: these thing Andy Clark: it's not supposed to Thomas Magruder: Mm. Andy Clark: ju yeah, break after one use. Ronald Parker: Okay, Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Andy Clark: I mean Ronald Parker: well Andy Clark: it Ronald Parker: that Andy Clark: they they Ronald Parker: that's Andy Clark: fall a lot. Ronald Parker: definitely Andy Clark: So Ronald Parker: true. Thomas Magruder: Mm. I think we have to decide on this anyway. Uh because if we make removeable covers, it has to be one of those mat materials. We have no more than this. So Ronald Parker: Because it well, ru will rubber actually protect the remote control itself? Because Andy Clark: Well, Ronald Parker: it Andy Clark: you have for if you if for example if you take hard plastic. If it falls it might crack. And rubber uh kind of Ronald Parker: Yeah, but Andy Clark: softens Ronald Parker: then you buy Andy Clark: the fall. Ronald Parker: a new cover. But Andy Clark: I'm Ronald Parker: rubber Andy Clark: not sure if it's the it's the entire cover you change. Uh, it's Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: Are Andy Clark: could Wayne Dingus: are Andy Clark: be. Wayne Dingus: we focussi focussing Andy Clark: You know Wayne Dingus: on on the Andy Clark: what, th we're focusing very much on the covers now. Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: we're going for the basic design. If we wanna expand our options, f be fashionable, then we can get changeable covers. But I think the basic Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: thing Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: let's just rule out wood for now and Thomas Magruder: Okay. Andy Clark: continue. Wayne Dingus: Not that but are we focussing on the uh younger people or the elder people? Andy Clark: We're definitely focussing on the younger Wayne Dingus: Younger, Andy Clark: people, 'cause Wayne Dingus: okay. Andy Clark: that was Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: our Wayne Dingus: that's okay. Andy Clark: main goal. Wayne Dingus: Nah, that's Thomas Magruder: Alright. Then I proceed, but I need to know after this meeting. So Andy Clark: Okay okay, Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: we will. Thomas Magruder: Interface, uh I have four things to offer, pu uh normal push-buttons of course. Um uh we have a lot of expertise on that one. We have a large history, our company, on Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Thomas Magruder: push-buttons. Scroll-wheels, uh those can be pushed as well, although that is more expensive. Um liquid crystal colour display and um What is this? Okay, and if we use rubber, I already mentioned that, we can only use rubber buttons. So rubber can only match with rubber. Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Thomas Magruder: Which one of those are we gonna use? Push-buttons, that's b uh I think Andy Clark: Evident. Thomas Magruder: basic. Andy Clark: Yeah, o of course we're gonna use. But I didn't Ronald Parker: Yeah, Thomas Magruder: Huh. Ronald Parker: of Andy Clark: I didn't Ronald Parker: cour Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: go on the thought of a scroll-wheel actually. I'm still deciding Thomas Magruder: No. Andy Clark: on what what what could you use it for. Maybe Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: for Thomas Magruder: think Andy Clark: volume Thomas Magruder: the channels. Andy Clark: control. Channel, I think that would be annoying Thomas Magruder: Oh. Andy Clark: because it might accidentally scroll onto another channel. Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Andy Clark: I think a push-button for channel would be better. I mean it for volume control it's Thomas Magruder: Huh? Andy Clark: it's a smoother Thomas Magruder: Huh. Andy Clark: motion, you can just increase or decrease. But Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: not Ronald Parker: but Andy Clark: sure. Ronald Parker: there Andy Clark: For Ronald Parker: is Andy Clark: channels Ronald Parker: a Thomas Magruder: But Ronald Parker: is Andy Clark: will Ronald Parker: it Andy Clark: be good. Ronald Parker: really necessary 'cause a normal Andy Clark: I don't think so. I haven't I haven't Ronald Parker: push-button Andy Clark: taken it Ronald Parker: can Andy Clark: into Ronald Parker: do Andy Clark: consideration. Ronald Parker: that Thomas Magruder: Huh? Ronald Parker: job. Thomas Magruder: Oh. Wayne Dingus: But Thomas Magruder: Ah Wayne Dingus: th Thomas Magruder: so but Wayne Dingus: the Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: it Andy Clark: don't Thomas Magruder: looks Wayne Dingus: younger Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: cool. Andy Clark: we really Wayne Dingus: people Andy Clark: need one. Thomas Magruder: Mm Wayne Dingus: my Thomas Magruder: no. Wayne Dingus: investigation turns out that the younger people want a little bit uh material Thomas Magruder: Oh. Wayne Dingus: that that Thomas Magruder: Ah. Wayne Dingus: is uh Thomas Magruder: flashy Wayne Dingus: spongy Thomas Magruder: and yeah. Wayne Dingus: and uh Thomas Magruder: I think Wayne Dingus: So Thomas Magruder: would be cool, scroll-wheel. It's not that much uh if we take Wayne Dingus: A Thomas Magruder: a normal Wayne Dingus: sc Thomas Magruder: scroll-wheel without the pushing, then it's not expensive. We can do that. Andy Clark: But why Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: do Ronald Parker: but Thomas Magruder: Think. Andy Clark: we need Ronald Parker: why Andy Clark: it? Ronald Parker: would we use it? Thomas Magruder: Ah we don't need it, Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: but it's uh it's Andy Clark: If we don't Thomas Magruder: design Andy Clark: need it, why Thomas Magruder: a design Andy Clark: put it in your Thomas Magruder: thing. Andy Clark: why Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: put it Wayne Dingus: you Andy Clark: in your Wayne Dingus: get Andy Clark: in your if it's if it's not something people are looking for or is useful. Wayne Dingus: No. Thomas Magruder: I think they are looking for that. Of course we Andy Clark: Are Thomas Magruder: have Andy Clark: they? Thomas Magruder: uh a young target group. So they might find that Wayne Dingus: Scroll-wheel? Andy Clark: Yeah, but Thomas Magruder: attractive Andy Clark: if it's Wayne Dingus: Uh Thomas Magruder: in Andy Clark: if Wayne Dingus: I don't Thomas Magruder: a remote Andy Clark: it's Wayne Dingus: know. Andy Clark: not Thomas Magruder: con Andy Clark: useful, I don't think it I don't think it gives an extra Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: function Wayne Dingus: that's it. Andy Clark: to the remote. Anyway Thomas Magruder: Okay. So push-buttons we will use. Uh L_C_D_ screen? Ronald Parker: Perhaps. I Thomas Magruder: Is that Ronald Parker: have Andy Clark: What Thomas Magruder: s Andy Clark: you Ronald Parker: t Andy Clark: what Ronald Parker: I have Andy Clark: what'd you Ronald Parker: two Andy Clark: get on Ronald Parker: different Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: the L_C_D_ screen? Is it expensive? Does it Thomas Magruder: chip in it. And that is more Andy Clark: And Thomas Magruder: expensive. Andy Clark: how much more expensive is that? Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: Or Thomas Magruder: have no idea. I have no absolute numbers. Andy Clark: No Ronald Parker: Okay. Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: absolute Thomas Magruder: only have Andy Clark: numbers, but it's just more expensive and takes more room I suppose in your in your Thomas Magruder: Yeah, but Andy Clark: design. Thomas Magruder: I don't think room is really an issue. Andy Clark: Don't think it's an issue, okay. Oh let's go for let's say because it is uh very hot in n our target group I think, we should take it take it t to consideration to build an L_C_D_ screen in it. Ronald Parker: I have two designs, one including uh Wayne Dingus: For the Ronald Parker: an Wayne Dingus: future. Ronald Parker: L_C_D_ screen, Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: wh which is basically Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: the deluxe edition. And then I also have a standard edition, which wi we can also choose Andy Clark: Which basically Ronald Parker: to Andy Clark: has Ronald Parker: develop Andy Clark: the same functionality, Ronald Parker: too. Andy Clark: but Wayne Dingus: Yep Andy Clark: lacks the L_C_D_ screen. Ronald Parker: Exactly. Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: But Andy Clark: We'll Ronald Parker: we'll Andy Clark: pick a we'll pick from uh we'll just combine everything later. Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Okay. Electronics, uh the first one is the chip. Uh that's no longer an option, it has to be an advanced one now. 'Cause we have the L_C_D_ Ronald Parker: Yep. Thomas Magruder: screen. Then we have an infrared sender, I think that's basic, we cannot do Ronald Parker: Basically, Thomas Magruder: without. Wayne Dingus: Yep. Ronald Parker: it Thomas Magruder: Otherwise it's not s a remote Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Thomas Magruder: control. And we have the sample sensor and speaker, the voice recognition thing. Are we gonna do that or not? Andy Clark: Once Ronald Parker: Oh, Andy Clark: again I was Ronald Parker: I Andy Clark: would Ronald Parker: got Andy Clark: ask you if it's expensive, but apparently you don't have any data. Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: So Thomas Magruder: only have uh uh relative Andy Clark: Well what d what Thomas Magruder: information. Andy Clark: was exact what you got on the on the Ronald Parker: I Andy Clark: new Ronald Parker: got Andy Clark: component? Ronald Parker: an email that it's relatively small. Andy Clark: That's small. So we can implement it. Ronald Parker: Yes, let Andy Clark: So Ronald Parker: Wayne Dingus just Andy Clark: why why if it's small and we can imp why shouldn't we? Ronald Parker: Get back. Thomas Magruder: Oh how did Andy Clark: And Thomas Magruder: you Andy Clark: there's um Thomas Magruder: That Andy Clark: get Thomas Magruder: goes also Andy Clark: your mar Thomas Magruder: for the scroll-wheel, Andy Clark: marketing Thomas Magruder: by Andy Clark: report? Thomas Magruder: the way. Andy Clark: What was uh the last number of how many people were interested in voice recognition? Wayne Dingus: Um uh Andy Clark: Although it's hard for different countries of course. Wayne Dingus: The most of them um Andy Clark: But you have to programme it yourself, I suppose, with your own voice. Wayne Dingus: Um uh more than uh sixty percent. Andy Clark: More than sixty percent of the people would like Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: voice recognition. Wayne Dingus: Mean of uh seventy percent I think. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Wayne Dingus: Uh I'm I have to look it up. Andy Clark: If it's small, if it's fits, Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Andy Clark: if if people like it, why not? Thomas Magruder: Hmm. But don't Andy Clark: So Thomas Magruder: we have any w uh information about scroll-wheel? Scroll-wheel. If people Wayne Dingus: No. Thomas Magruder: would like that. Wayne Dingus: No, Thomas Magruder: That's strange, because that's the same Wayne Dingus: only Thomas Magruder: story. It's it's not necessary Wayne Dingus: Ah. I don't Thomas Magruder: like Wayne Dingus: know. Thomas Magruder: an L_C_D_, but it's just it adds something to the Andy Clark: Yeah, but we got some data Thomas Magruder: design. Andy Clark: on people that actually are int are interested in that, and I Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: don't think a scroll-wheel offers new functionality, Wayne Dingus: On the most Andy Clark: whereas Wayne Dingus: spee Thomas Magruder: No. Andy Clark: speech recognition and L_C_D_ screen Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: do offer new functionality in Thomas Magruder: Oh Andy Clark: your Thomas Magruder: that's Andy Clark: product. Thomas Magruder: r But I think uh we now already have to uh implement uh an advanced chip. Andy Clark: Uh I think Thomas Magruder: So Andy Clark: so, because Thomas Magruder: it's Andy Clark: if Thomas Magruder: m Andy Clark: I Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: think we're Wayne Dingus: for Andy Clark: specially Wayne Dingus: the future. Andy Clark: w if you're going maybe uh if you have the two editions you wanna wanna give out, probably you have one with uh with speech recognition and Ronald Parker: Well, they b they basically can have speech recognition. I mainly focused Andy Clark: Um Ronald Parker: on the L_C_D_ uh aspect. Andy Clark: Yeah, hold on a minute. Were were you we're finished? Or Thomas Magruder: No, but that's that's okay. Andy Clark: Oh. Because if there's something that Ronald Parker: 'Cause you wanted to see them, Thomas Magruder: There Andy Clark: 'Cause Ronald Parker: right? Thomas Magruder: is Andy Clark: have Thomas Magruder: still Andy Clark: did Thomas Magruder: time. Andy Clark: you have all the materials? Or everything Thomas Magruder: Yes, Andy Clark: that you Thomas Magruder: this Andy Clark: desc Thomas Magruder: was uh the last M_S_. I have Andy Clark: Okay, Thomas Magruder: a clear Andy Clark: so Thomas Magruder: picture. Andy Clark: uh just just go for design for now. Just m have a seat for a second. Uh We'll combine everything Ronald Parker: So this Andy Clark: after Ronald Parker: is basically Andy Clark: this. Ronald Parker: the deluxe edition. Andy Clark: Why is Ronald Parker: I Andy Clark: it Ronald Parker: j Andy Clark: s why is it squared? Ronald Parker: Why is it square? Andy Clark: Why did you pick square? Or Ronald Parker: It Andy Clark: uh not Ronald Parker: 'cause it's Andy Clark: square, Ronald Parker: designy. Andy Clark: but why is it yeah, sharp Ronald Parker: It's basically Andy Clark: corners. Ronald Parker: it has some futuristic Potentially, Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: yeah. I don't really know. But I just Wayne Dingus: People Ronald Parker: thought that Andy Clark: Looks Ronald Parker: uh Andy Clark: like Ronald Parker: in Andy Clark: a Star Trek Ronald Parker: normal Andy Clark: phaser. Ronald Parker: remote controls you have like smooth curves and this and that, and this is something new, this is something different, something fresh. Andy Clark: It's true. Ronald Parker: And basically what you Wayne Dingus: Ri Ronald Parker: can see here is that it has a little, yeah, let's say gap which you can put Andy Clark: Yeah. Ronald Parker: your finger Andy Clark: Or Ronald Parker: in. Andy Clark: Okay, so just yeah, Wayne Dingus: So Andy Clark: you Wayne Dingus: only Andy Clark: can rest Wayne Dingus: r Ronald Parker: So Andy Clark: it on Wayne Dingus: right-handed. Ronald Parker: you Andy Clark: your Ronald Parker: can Andy Clark: finger. Ronald Parker: you can Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: hold it really comfortable, that's Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: But Ronald Parker: basically Wayne Dingus: it Ronald Parker: the Wayne Dingus: but Ronald Parker: idea. Wayne Dingus: it's only right-handed then. Not Ronald Parker: Or Andy Clark: No, Wayne Dingus: for Ronald Parker: left Wayne Dingus: the left. Ronald Parker: hand. Andy Clark: it Wayne Dingus: Or Andy Clark: just Ronald Parker: I doesn't Andy Clark: uh it's Ronald Parker: really matter. Andy Clark: a curve inside a thing. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: So Ronald Parker: As you can Wayne Dingus: Where? Ronald Parker: see, this is the Wayne Dingus: Wher Andy Clark: It's on the back. Ronald Parker: remote control Wayne Dingus: Oh in the back, okay. Ronald Parker: Uh you can't really see Wayne Dingus: Oh Ronald Parker: it Wayne Dingus: yeah Ronald Parker: that Wayne Dingus: yeah. Ronald Parker: well, but this is the L_C_D_ screen. Wayne Dingus: Okay. Ronald Parker: So just imagine it goes that way. Andy Clark: Yeah, Wayne Dingus: Oh Andy Clark: I think it's Wayne Dingus: yeah Andy Clark: okay. Ronald Parker: Then Wayne Dingus: yeah. Ronald Parker: you can Wayne Dingus: Okay. Ronald Parker: see you can hold Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: it Wayne Dingus: Yeah yeah. Ronald Parker: in your left or in your right hand. And Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: I also made Wayne Dingus: I Ronald Parker: a Wayne Dingus: thought it Ronald Parker: quick image, 'cause I did not have that much time, of the standard edition which has basically the keys are pretty much the same. Andy Clark: Keys are probably the n the number keys, I suppose. Ronald Parker: Yeah. I had to do this really fast. So excuse Wayne Dingus for the uh inconvenience Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: here, but as you can see, the keys moved. Andy Clark: Well, you can work on the actual concept or actual Ronald Parker: Yeah. Andy Clark: design later with him. Ronald Parker: So these Andy Clark: But Ronald Parker: are basically the two types we have. So if we were to select the L_C_D_ screen, the transmitter here, you can see the light i Andy Clark: Well, I think what you have to keep in mind is that um you're moving the the the number keys from the top. Uh in the the simple design you have them at a top, and the uh complex design you have them at the bottom. So it would that would give us a totally different design. So which actually making a whole different product instead of two different models. I think it would be very expensive to produce two whole different products. Ronald Parker: Well we can Andy Clark: So Ronald Parker: shift that. But normally, as you can see there, we put the uh number buttons right on top. Whereas because we had the L_C_D_ screen here, we had to move them downward, so Andy Clark: Yeah, uh Ronald Parker: what Andy Clark: or Ronald Parker: you could say Andy Clark: for Ronald Parker: is Andy Clark: example, Ronald Parker: that Andy Clark: why did you pick the mm the numbers uh all the way below, and the and the channels and volume Ronald Parker: Because Andy Clark: control Wayne Dingus: Well Ronald Parker: these are basically Wayne Dingus: it it's Ronald Parker: the functions Wayne Dingus: yeah. Ronald Parker: you use the most. So if you hold it in your hand like this, you put your finger in the gap, this is the m most easy part. Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: Bit. Thomas Magruder: Hmm, Ronald Parker: For zapping, Andy Clark: That's Thomas Magruder: I agree. Andy Clark: fine. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: cau Andy Clark: That's Ronald Parker: because Andy Clark: fine. Ronald Parker: people are zapping Andy Clark: Just as long Ronald Parker: most Andy Clark: as you Ronald Parker: of the time. Andy Clark: tak took it into consideration what people would prefer. Uh, okay if Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: you all agree, I'm fine with it. But Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: Okay. So that's pretty much ha which I had in mind. As you can see here, this can be spaced for extra keys, which is the design Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: thingys. Wayne Dingus: No it maybe it's better to look uh what the people want. Andy Clark: Yeah, Wayne Dingus: So I Andy Clark: I Wayne Dingus: can Andy Clark: think Wayne Dingus: uh Andy Clark: we'll Wayne Dingus: show my uh investigation. Andy Clark: I think we're going towards the deluxe edition anyway, because that seems Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: to be Wayne Dingus: maybe Andy Clark: what the Wayne Dingus: it's Andy Clark: people Wayne Dingus: better. Andy Clark: want. But let's see what's Ronald Parker: Yeah. Andy Clark: what they want Wayne Dingus: Especially Andy Clark: now. Wayne Dingus: for young people. Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: Um where is that? Where is th Andy Clark: That's mine. Wayne Dingus: Oh. Uh Andy Clark: No, you should send it to the f to the folder first. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Mm Andy Clark: Okay Wayne Dingus: I forgot Andy Clark: um, Wayne Dingus: that. Andy Clark: let's just assume we go to forty one. Wayne Dingus: Okay, now it must be there. Yeah, here it is. Oh yeah. Wayne Dingus: Okay, uh the investigation turns out that the most appear uh people want um um uh look and feel likes is uh uh the s the same as before, but it must be w a little bit fancier than uh the the look of it. Um the second important thing is um the it must be uh technol technological uh innova vative. So that's the L_C_D_ screen is perfect, I think, and not uh Ronald Parker: Speech recognition. Wayne Dingus: Yeah, tha that's uh very important. And a third thing is um yeah, it's uh should be easy to use, so not not too much bu buttons and uh channel selection. I think that's uh what you showed is uh perfect. And what the pe young people want is uh in Paris and and in Milan uh it showed out that the fruit and vegetables are uh are trendy. Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: Th they you s you see it in the clothes and everything. And um the contrast uh of it, it must uh the the buttons must a little bit spongy material. So uh Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Wayne Dingus: rubber, I think uh th that's Thomas Magruder: No. Wayne Dingus: the best. Andy Clark: Mm-hmm. Ronald Parker: Then Thomas Magruder: Yeah, Ronald Parker: rubber Thomas Magruder: uh Ronald Parker: would Thomas Magruder: I agree. Ronald Parker: be the best as a material Wayne Dingus: No. Ronald Parker: indeed. Andy Clark: I think so. Wayne Dingus: So Ronald Parker: If Wayne Dingus: we Ronald Parker: that Wayne Dingus: are Ronald Parker: is Wayne Dingus: uh Ronald Parker: the uh Wayne Dingus: we were focussing uh Thomas Magruder: Okay, Wayne Dingus: on the Thomas Magruder: agreement. Wayne Dingus: younger people. Andy Clark: Okay. Wayne Dingus: So the elder, yeah, they wanted a little bit of wood in it and uh that's uh th that's not uh important Andy Clark: Okay, Wayne Dingus: now. Andy Clark: so we're definitely Ronald Parker: It could Andy Clark: going Ronald Parker: be Andy Clark: for Ronald Parker: a c Andy Clark: rubber. Ronald Parker: it could be a Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: cover. But it's not. Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Ronald Parker: Our focus Andy Clark: Let's just Ronald Parker: is Wayne Dingus: but Andy Clark: go Ronald Parker: the young audience. So let's Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: stick to that. Andy Clark: Uh-huh. Wayne Dingus: 'Cause uh n I I I I thought uh it makes a young uh classic remote with uh Andy Clark: Nah, I think we're in this case you're losing the the focus on the Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: young group, because Wayne Dingus: that's Andy Clark: we're Wayne Dingus: why I I d Andy Clark: that's what Wayne Dingus: uh Andy Clark: we're focussing on. So I think Wayne Dingus: decided Andy Clark: the spongy feel gives us rubber. Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: With a fruit uh Andy Clark: Yeah, w th apparently Wayne Dingus: cover ov or something Andy Clark: Yeah, Wayne Dingus: like that. Uh Andy Clark: apparently yeah, maybe also yeah, I tend to disagree with with uh with a sharp form. I suppose it basi if you're uh saying fruits and vegetables, maybe it's supposed to be a little little Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Andy Clark: more round. Wayne Dingus: in in form of an uh vegetable or an uh fruit, Andy Clark: Yeah, for exa Wayne Dingus: maybe. Andy Clark: maybe like Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: uh Ronald Parker: but Andy Clark: like Ronald Parker: that's Andy Clark: a Ronald Parker: just Andy Clark: pear Wayne Dingus: And Andy Clark: or Ronald Parker: more Andy Clark: something. Ronald Parker: a se a seasonal, Wayne Dingus: Oh, where is your Ronald Parker: a trend thing. Thomas Magruder: That's true. Andy Clark: That's what Ronald Parker: The Andy Clark: we're doing. Ronald Parker: idea now is is Wayne Dingus: A Ronald Parker: is Wayne Dingus: trendy Ronald Parker: that you can uh put a cover on it, for example, with fruit, like a shape Andy Clark: Mm. Ronald Parker: or whatever. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: I think shape Ronald Parker: But Andy Clark: is Ronald Parker: not Andy Clark: is important, Wayne Dingus: Here he Ronald Parker: 'cause Andy Clark: because Ronald Parker: a Wayne Dingus: here Ronald Parker: n next Wayne Dingus: you can Andy Clark: they s Ronald Parker: year Wayne Dingus: put Andy Clark: they Ronald Parker: it Wayne Dingus: a Andy Clark: really Ronald Parker: will it'll Andy Clark: extend. Ronald Parker: be something Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: completely different. Thomas Magruder: Oh, Ronald Parker: And Thomas Magruder: that's Ronald Parker: then Thomas Magruder: true. Ronald Parker: you have your apple-shaped remote control, which is not trendy anymore. So Andy Clark: Yeah, Ronald Parker: I think Andy Clark: but now Ronald Parker: that's Andy Clark: you have Ronald Parker: more Andy Clark: your Ronald Parker: something Andy Clark: your Ronald Parker: you can Andy Clark: like Ronald Parker: focus Andy Clark: your Star Trek phaser thing shaped control. So I I th Ronald Parker: Well, you Andy Clark: the Ronald Parker: can Andy Clark: edges Ronald Parker: s Wayne Dingus: Uh maybe Andy Clark: are really Wayne Dingus: it Andy Clark: really sharp. I'm Ronald Parker: What Andy Clark: uh Ronald Parker: you Andy Clark: not Ronald Parker: can Andy Clark: su Ronald Parker: do is smooth the edges indeed. But that will bring extra c expenses. Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: Or maybe just make it make Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: it up into into a low a smooth curve instead of just less Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: sharp twist Wayne Dingus: All Andy Clark: on the outside. Wayne Dingus: uh veg uh fruit and vegetables are round. So it's Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Wayne Dingus: better Andy Clark: I think I think there needs to be a little I think it's too too sharp. The edges are too sharp. The Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: bottom is fine of course if it's square. But maybe just th make uh the top a little round it off on the sides. So Thomas Magruder: But I think, Andy Clark: I mean Thomas Magruder: according Andy Clark: y Thomas Magruder: to my information, this would be two curves. Andy Clark: That Wayne Dingus: Two? Andy Clark: would Thomas Magruder: We Andy Clark: be Thomas Magruder: have Andy Clark: two Thomas Magruder: one Andy Clark: curves. Thomas Magruder: left and one right, and that disables what was it again? Wayne Dingus: But Thomas Magruder: It's Wayne Dingus: it Thomas Magruder: some it's something that we cannot do then. Andy Clark: One cur you could also make the curve go through of course. But that would make Ronald Parker: Well Andy Clark: make the top round. Thomas Magruder: Okay, that's not a problem. Ronald Parker: For the Thomas Magruder: That's Ronald Parker: gap. Thomas Magruder: only for the titanium. We don't have. Wayne Dingus: But it's that that's for Ronald Parker: And we Wayne Dingus: the Ronald Parker: could Wayne Dingus: comfort. Ronald Parker: have one here. Wayne Dingus: It's it's not for the trendy thing of it. Ronald Parker: No, no no no no. What I'm just 'cause you mentioned that more curves the more expensive, so I'm just Wayne Dingus: Yeah? Ronald Parker: taking that Wayne Dingus: Okay, Ronald Parker: into account. Thomas Magruder: Yes. Wayne Dingus: yeah. Andy Clark: But let's see, titanium would give us only one Thomas Magruder: Then Andy Clark: curve. Thomas Magruder: w yeah, but we don't Andy Clark: So but Thomas Magruder: have Andy Clark: we're Thomas Magruder: that. Andy Clark: not Thomas Magruder: So Andy Clark: d we're Thomas Magruder: we have Andy Clark: not Wayne Dingus: So Andy Clark: using Wayne Dingus: the Andy Clark: titanium. Wayne Dingus: no. Thomas Magruder: We have Ronald Parker: Well Thomas Magruder: no. Ronald Parker: we picked rubber, right? Andy Clark: Right, we did. So Thomas Magruder: But they Wayne Dingus: We Thomas Magruder: uh Ronald Parker: So basically Wayne Dingus: m Ronald Parker: what we can do is m Andy Clark: Just doodle Ronald Parker: make Andy Clark: something Ronald Parker: these Wayne Dingus: form. Andy Clark: on the board on Ronald Parker: edges Andy Clark: the left. Ronald Parker: a little bit less sharp. But the problem then is that it will start to resemble m the remote controls as we have them today. We were looking at something fresh, something trendy Andy Clark: Well actually, we're setting ourselves apart from by technology alone actually. So that let's see what you're doing. Thomas Magruder: They th these wha are what they call the curves. This side, Andy Clark: Oh, Thomas Magruder: this Andy Clark: okay. Thomas Magruder: side, this is Ronald Parker: Okay. Thomas Magruder: how Andy Clark: I don't Thomas Magruder: they count. Andy Clark: think like that. Not not really the curves on the on the side of the Thomas Magruder: No Andy Clark: remote. Thomas Magruder: no. This is what they uh what they mean. Ronald Parker: Okay, Thomas Magruder: Okay, that's not Ronald Parker: so Thomas Magruder: really Ronald Parker: that's basically Andy Clark: Okay, Thomas Magruder: a Andy Clark: now Thomas Magruder: good. Ronald Parker: silly. Andy Clark: I uh of course now I understand why they have more uh like um Why the curves um decrease the the um the size the electronics that can be inside. So Okay. I don't think the outside would be called as a curve really. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: It's like this. Andy Clark: I think it's for all the basic well, looking from the side anyway. Well, if you see what I have to come up with some designs fast anyway. So Wayne Dingus: But you can Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Wayne Dingus: make uh if you want to use a fruit in uh in uh Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: But isn't Wayne Dingus: Uh Ronald Parker: the f the fruit like a cover thing, because we Andy Clark: Well, you shouldn't focus on the mostly Wayne Dingus: Hey, Andy Clark: on the covers, Wayne Dingus: you Andy Clark: because lot of things we came up with, shouldn't be too really too much shouldn't Wayne Dingus: You Andy Clark: be Wayne Dingus: can Andy Clark: too Wayne Dingus: make Andy Clark: focussed Wayne Dingus: it like Andy Clark: on the covers because Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: No, Andy Clark: it's kind Wayne Dingus: Like Ronald Parker: but Andy Clark: of an Wayne Dingus: this. Andy Clark: idea of our own, but we're not sure if Ronald Parker: But Andy Clark: we can Ronald Parker: if Andy Clark: actually Ronald Parker: we put that Andy Clark: make Ronald Parker: directly Andy Clark: that. Ronald Parker: into the design, we limit ourselves extremely. Because it that's just for one Andy Clark: That's Ronald Parker: seasonal Andy Clark: the one Wayne Dingus: Well Andy Clark: thing I'm also Ronald Parker: trend. Andy Clark: afraid of with this one because it Wayne Dingus: Oh. Andy Clark: the edges are really um they might Wayne Dingus: As Andy Clark: stick Wayne Dingus: a Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Wayne Dingus: example. Andy Clark: out on the on the side Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: for example. If you have Wayne Dingus: I Andy Clark: a Wayne Dingus: d Andy Clark: basic design, a little m a little smaller on the on the s on the edges, you could put more covers on it, y one one with square or um sharp corners Ronald Parker: Okay, Andy Clark: if you want to. Ronald Parker: so that's Andy Clark: So Ronald Parker: well, that's Andy Clark: M Ronald Parker: probabl, Andy Clark: just round it off a little, I guess, because Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: so we have more options Ronald Parker: you'd just Andy Clark: I suppose. Ronald Parker: like it to go a little bit more like this. Andy Clark: I think so because it looks leaner and Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: we should just go with that. Anyway, Wayne Dingus: Hmm. Andy Clark: you have all the time in the world to make to make the final design in a minute with him. So So we decided on what what did you guys wanna know again because this is um anyway, I'll fire up my thing. So so Ronald Parker: Did Andy Clark: we come Ronald Parker: you Andy Clark: to a decision. Ronald Parker: present e everything you wanted to? Thomas Magruder: Yep. Ronald Parker: Okay. Thomas Magruder: So I can uh qui Andy Clark: Uh Thomas Magruder: oh. I can quickly Andy Clark: what Thomas Magruder: make a conclusion Andy Clark: the Thomas Magruder: of what we have decided so far. Ronald Parker: Uh we still need to decide on a couple of things you Andy Clark: Ah. Ronald Parker: you needed to know. Andy Clark: Yeah. Okay, anyway. Uh energy, we choose regular regular batteries. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: The chip is advanced because we have the advanced features. The case, it will be the material will be rubber, suppose. Wouldn't the b the design we talked about. Uh user interface, type. Well I think we took all the components separately what we want. Um let's see um supplements. I'm not sure what they mean by that. Anyway, um apparently you guys, you should work together on the final design, both on internal and external design. So Yeah, you should you should probably find out how the product will fall into the market, how uh Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: what's gonna happen with the final design as we have it now. So Wayne Dingus: Yeah Andy Clark: Yeah, of course you've got your specific instruction as usual. So Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: Wanna spend some more um I think we're in a pretty much in agreement actually, which Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: is good. So Ronald Parker: Are we all in agreement about the, well, the primary structure of the of my design? Andy Clark: Lef let's Ronald Parker: Except for Andy Clark: see, Ronald Parker: the Andy Clark: where Ronald Parker: edges. Andy Clark: the pen go? Here. Ronald Parker: Like the keys there. Andy Clark: Yeah uh open your thing again. Let's see what if you can come up with anything new. Um I'll just do a next one. So what would give us your ne your design would be the lights would be on top, right? Uh one Ronald Parker: Yeah. Andy Clark: on each one on each side. Ronald Parker: To create a kind of disco effect when you That was basically Andy Clark: Is Ronald Parker: what Andy Clark: it Ronald Parker: w Andy Clark: is it the lights for for finding the finding remote or lights that it Ronald Parker: Light for Andy Clark: that Ronald Parker: the finding of the remote. We can also use one light for showing that the signal is being sent. But Andy Clark: Yeah, I think that should just be a simple LED or something. Like that that's not that important of course. It just like a matter of a a beep if you pre that you just know that that there's context. So I don't think that's super important. But Hmm. Ronald Parker: So we have the teletext we have here, we have the mute. Andy Clark: Uh sh Ronald Parker: L_C_D_ screen. This Andy Clark: Oh. Ronald Parker: is the on off button. Wayne Dingus: And speech w recognition. Are we Ronald Parker: Speech recognition, I Wayne Dingus: We Ronald Parker: where did I imagine. I did that pretty Wayne Dingus: Little Ronald Parker: much over Wayne Dingus: uh Ronald Parker: here, Wayne Dingus: voice Ronald Parker: so that you could Wayne Dingus: uh Ronald Parker: use it like this Wayne Dingus: Record and a uh Ronald Parker: and Wayne Dingus: no. Ronald Parker: speak to it. Then you have the uh extra keys for teletext, mute, two buttons which can be pretty much anything or nothing. We can also just not use them. Andy Clark: Let's see, I'll just make Ronald Parker: Main controls and a key-pad. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: One light here. And just make it red now. But it could be any colour. So Ronald Parker: Will be fine. Andy Clark: Okay, whatever. Fine, anyway. What do we have here? M I'll make it um are we gonna use square buttons or round ones actually? Personally I would prefer round ones. Thomas Magruder: Wayne Dingus too. Ronald Parker: Yeah, but that Wayne Dingus: Form Ronald Parker: would this Wayne Dingus: of fruit. Ronald Parker: was just in Wayne Dingus: It's Ronald Parker: the design. Wayne Dingus: better. Ronald Parker: Because if you Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: Yeah, Ronald Parker: I had Andy Clark: for Ronald Parker: a square design. So I had Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: square buttons. But in that case the round buttons would be Andy Clark: Okay, Ronald Parker: more appropriate. Andy Clark: I assume it for so we take a r take a round power button right here. Whatever. Uh back to black. Uh not too big though. See this would be good. Um let's see. Are these for any extra controls? Ronald Parker: Yeah. The Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: left one is teletext and the right one is mute. And these two buttons are or not Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: necessary or Andy Clark: If we go for for round buttons in general, do we want to the menu key in the middle to be round? For example, if you let's see, put it this here. I think we'll go with the triangles that Come on. Ronald Parker: Yeah, the triangles would be best indeed. Andy Clark: Triangles are good. Yeah, they're a little too big now. But Anyway, okay. So do you want for example a round button in the middle or square one? Ronald Parker: I personally think that a round b Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: button looks bit silly, but Andy Clark: I'm Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: not sure uh, I just just came up with it. This aligns nicely. So Okay. We'll just take the take the round button, suppose. Uh oh the square button, sorry. Ronald Parker: Does everybody agree on that? Wayne Dingus: Yep. Andy Clark: I suppose Thomas Magruder: I would prefer Andy Clark: so. Thomas Magruder: round. But doesn't Ronald Parker: You Thomas Magruder: matter, Ronald Parker: prefer a round? Thomas Magruder: doesn't matter. Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: Okay. Thomas Magruder: That's not a big deal, think. Andy Clark: So there's our numbers. Think we need an extra button here of course for yeah, like you had for the higher numbers. And you could include a button here for the mute, I suppose. For something else, just to Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: mirror Ronald Parker: you can. Andy Clark: mirror Ronald Parker: But it Andy Clark: the effect Ronald Parker: but it's not Andy Clark: with this. Ronald Parker: necessary, becau Andy Clark: That's not necessary because it you can take this away, but there it looks like there's a hole there, just to mirror the effect. Okay, so we have Ronald Parker: We could Andy Clark: a Ronald Parker: put Andy Clark: few Ronald Parker: our logo there. Andy Clark: Nah, I think it it would be nice to put the logo here, for example, if you have some buttons here. We could put a logo here because it's very Wayne Dingus: And what Andy Clark: always Wayne Dingus: about Andy Clark: in your field of vision. If you're watching Wayne Dingus: Oh. Andy Clark: it, the L_C_D_ screen, blah blah. Wayne Dingus: What about a button for your uh favourite channel? Ronald Parker: Oh that Andy Clark: Well Ronald Parker: could Andy Clark: we could Ronald Parker: be Andy Clark: we Ronald Parker: that Andy Clark: could include Ronald Parker: b Andy Clark: either Wayne Dingus: Uh Andy Clark: here Wayne Dingus: yeah. With the extra controls. Andy Clark: or here, Wayne Dingus: Uh Andy Clark: for example. But you think Ronald Parker: Well Andy Clark: here Wayne Dingus: Uh Ronald Parker: now Andy Clark: or here? Wayne Dingus: one Ronald Parker: it's getting Wayne Dingus: one set Ronald Parker: a little bit too crowded up Andy Clark: I know. Ronald Parker: there. So Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Ronald Parker: Is your Wayne Dingus: up uh Ronald Parker: So it can basically be the button down below or one of the four buttons Andy Clark: No, we could Ronald Parker: up there. Andy Clark: put Ronald Parker: Because Andy Clark: this one as favourite Wayne Dingus: One of Andy Clark: channel Wayne Dingus: the four. Andy Clark: for exam Wayne Dingus: Uh, it's better than, I think. Andy Clark: What Ronald Parker: One Andy Clark: are these Ronald Parker: of Andy Clark: for? Ronald Parker: the four Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: is Wayne Dingus: It's a favourite Ronald Parker: better, I Wayne Dingus: channel. Ronald Parker: suppose. Andy Clark: What? Wayne Dingus: What? Nee, uh one of the four uh Ronald Parker: Because it's Wayne Dingus: It's Ronald Parker: a little Wayne Dingus: better Ronald Parker: bit Wayne Dingus: th Ronald Parker: confusing to have twelve buttons down there, because you're only accustomed to eleven, I'd say. Andy Clark: You're accustomed to eleven? My uh okay, have it your way. I mean, think this looks rather Ronald Parker: Oh, we still need Andy Clark: like Ronald Parker: an okay Andy Clark: like there's something Ronald Parker: button. Andy Clark: missing for example. I mean why wouldn't you include a 'cause there is a um a piece of electronics under there anyway. So why not Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: give it a function. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: Let's say I mean could be anything. Ronald Parker: Well, you could Andy Clark: But Ronald Parker: also Andy Clark: th Ronald Parker: shift the two buttons to be nicely aligned. Andy Clark: No, I don't think because this is a zero. But you want Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: zero to be mis-aligned with the rest. Anyway, so this is the basic design, we wanna have um on and off what are we missing? Ronald Parker: Oh, Andy Clark: If Ronald Parker: we're Andy Clark: it Ronald Parker: pretty Andy Clark: looks Ronald Parker: much missing Andy Clark: um Ronald Parker: an okay button, but we have a button up there Andy Clark: Okay, Ronald Parker: which is still Andy Clark: so Ronald Parker: free. Andy Clark: we want the Ronald Parker: So Andy Clark: remote to be the s the side view actually, what I'm gonna draw. So Um probably think you want the curve to be here. So have your finger under here like this, Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: I suppose? Ronald Parker: pretty much. Andy Clark: Okay. Just gonna be sh Wayne Dingus: Hmm. Andy Clark: Yeah. Want this straight or what? Let's keep it at this. So it would be like this. Do we want something interesting with it or see. Would give us a light here. Maybe it's boring. You want it curved or what? Maybe you want Ronald Parker: Well, I think Andy Clark: Should Ronald Parker: it Andy Clark: like Ronald Parker: looks Andy Clark: this? Ronald Parker: better curved. But that's probably uh Andy Clark: Will give us Wayne Dingus: Mm. Andy Clark: design Thomas Magruder: Huh. Andy Clark: problem because we have Thomas Magruder: It can be Wayne Dingus: Why? Thomas Magruder: curved. Ronald Parker: It can be curved, because Thomas Magruder: Yes. Ronald Parker: that yeah, it's a little bit more Andy Clark: It can be Ronald Parker: trendy Andy Clark: curved. Ronald Parker: to Andy Clark: Okay? Ronald Parker: be curved. Andy Clark: I think so. That's why I asked you. Okay. So Thomas Magruder: I would curve the whole actually. Ronald Parker: Hmm? Thomas Magruder: I would curve the whole. Like um like it hangs over your hand a little bit. Andy Clark: Oh crap. Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: Then it will bounce and you don't drop it so easily. Andy Clark: Yeah. Oh. Anyway, so you want to a little more like this? Thomas Magruder: Yeah, something like that, Wayne Dingus: Uh-huh. Thomas Magruder: yes. Andy Clark: And just s s Thomas Magruder: Yes, exactly. Andy Clark: Stop the curve here or continue it Thomas Magruder: I think continue like that. Wayne Dingus: Yep. Thomas Magruder: Then there's also Andy Clark: So we Thomas Magruder: enough Andy Clark: have our L_C_D_ Thomas Magruder: room for the Andy Clark: screen. Thomas Magruder: electronics. Andy Clark: Let's see. Ronald Parker: But Andy Clark: In Ronald Parker: it pretty much looks like a banana already. Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Ronald Parker: Uh Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: Let's make Wayne Dingus: Perfect. Thomas Magruder: it yellow Andy Clark: Bana Thomas Magruder: then. Andy Clark: it's Thomas Magruder: Uh Andy Clark: banana vision. Ronald Parker: It's fruit. Wayne Dingus: Yeah, Ronald Parker: Yeah. Wayne Dingus: it's perfect. Andy Clark: So you have your L_C_D_ screen right here, suppose. Um that would make We use the colours now. But Um Thomas Magruder: Maybe once we can make a special edition in according with Chiquita. Have ourselves sponsored. Andy Clark: You got sponsor, now you get a free one with every pack of Chiquita. Thomas Magruder: Uh but it's a good trade-off for them if they can have their logo on it. Andy Clark: So it would give the buttons Ronald Parker: Or Andy Clark: here. Ronald Parker: they can design their own cover. Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. They might Ronald Parker: We Thomas Magruder: wanna Ronald Parker: could Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: be Ronald Parker: set Thomas Magruder: the Andy Clark: suppose Thomas Magruder: first Ronald Parker: up a Thomas Magruder: ones Andy Clark: I suppose Thomas Magruder: to Ronald Parker: a Thomas Magruder: uh Ronald Parker: marketing Andy Clark: we can Ronald Parker: uh Andy Clark: put Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: um Ronald Parker: agreement. Andy Clark: let's see. Um Thomas Magruder: Oh, perhaps they can use it. Or give a special edition uh Andy Clark: Uh I suppose Thomas Magruder: with with Andy Clark: we can put the batteries in here because it has the most space, for example. Ronald Parker: Won't that be a problem with the L_C_D_ screen? Andy Clark: I don't think so because it's the biggest part of the Thomas Magruder: Mm. Andy Clark: uh of the uh Ronald Parker: Yeah, but the L_C_D_ screen probably needs quite Andy Clark: Let's Ronald Parker: the chip. Thomas Magruder: I think this is possible. Andy Clark: I think it's possible. Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: I think it's the best place yeah, you could also Thomas Magruder: Huh. Andy Clark: put 'em here. But Thomas Magruder: It doesn't matter. You can actually uh place a chip for the L_C_D_ screen and at the bottom, and and wire it. Doesn't Andy Clark: Okay, Thomas Magruder: matter. Ronald Parker: Okay, that's not a Wayne Dingus: Okay. Ronald Parker: problem. Andy Clark: so Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: we put the batteries here. That's fine. Yep. Blah. Ronald Parker: I think we get the idea. Andy Clark: Um, any other com what what are we missing here? Something a speech recognition. Um where do we want the microphone, for example, to be? On the side Wayne Dingus: Top? Andy Clark: or on the or, Ronald Parker: Oh, Andy Clark: for Wayne Dingus: W Andy Clark: example, on top? Wayne Dingus: On Ronald Parker: basically Wayne Dingus: there. Andy Clark: Like here. Ronald Parker: the idea that I had Thomas Magruder: I think Ronald Parker: was it Thomas Magruder: on Ronald Parker: to Thomas Magruder: top. Ronald Parker: be pretty Andy Clark: To be Ronald Parker: much in combination with the transmitter. 'Cause you can talk to it like this. Andy Clark: Okay, I w thought Wayne Dingus: No. Andy Clark: maybe it's either be here or because it's mi it might interfere with the transmitter, I'm not sure. But 'Cause transmitter would be Ronald Parker: Well, Andy Clark: here. Ronald Parker: the email said it was a quite a small component. So I don't Andy Clark: Why uh Ronald Parker: see Andy Clark: once again, Ronald Parker: that. Andy Clark: like you said, the component can be somewhere at the bottom while we wire the microphone up there. Anyway. Um yeah, it could be either be here or make a double microphone. Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: I wouldn't mind. Thomas Magruder: It is, I believe, also able to talk. Andy Clark: It's able to talk to you. Ronald Parker: It's Thomas Magruder: I have a Ronald Parker: a Thomas Magruder: sample uh sample sensor and the speaker sensor. Andy Clark: A speaker sensor. Thomas Magruder: Uh the speaker sensor we already have, but s I don't know what they exactly mean by a sample sensor. Could it talk back? Like uh g uh give confirmation or something. I think it can. I think if you have a a speech Ronald Parker: Well, Thomas Magruder: recognition Ronald Parker: the Thomas Magruder: component, then Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: a Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: s Andy Clark: so, it Thomas Magruder: speaking Andy Clark: I think it could. Thomas Magruder: component is not that hard to to put in either. Andy Clark: Yeah. Wayne Dingus: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: I mean it could be a all this stuff could be integrated into the L_C_D_ screen, which Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: you could navigate with this, I suppose. Navigate Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: through everything. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: If Ronald Parker: Yeah, Andy Clark: you have Ronald Parker: but do Andy Clark: I Ronald Parker: you Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: But Andy Clark: you sh I Ronald Parker: actually Andy Clark: think the Ronald Parker: need Andy Clark: advanced Ronald Parker: the remote Andy Clark: options Ronald Parker: talking Andy Clark: should be Ronald Parker: back? Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: I think it sh Thomas Magruder: Yeah. Andy Clark: the advanced option could also be integrated in the L_C_D_ screen, of course, because you don't have to have a button for everything. You can just navigate Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: through th m your menu that you have here for advanced Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: options with this. Think that would be fine. Thomas Magruder: Mm. Andy Clark: So that's w m would be making use of the L_C_D_ screen. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: Mm. Thomas Magruder: We already have a sound component, by the way, for the beep. So Andy Clark: Beep. Thomas Magruder: beep. Ronald Parker: Beep. Wayne Dingus: Beep. Andy Clark: Um, so the flashing of the beep, we have well anything. We could Yeah, but you could put a speaker or something on on Ronald Parker: At Andy Clark: the side Ronald Parker: the back, yeah. Andy Clark: for example. Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: Like that. Or at the side. Andy Clark: For Ronald Parker: Which is. Andy Clark: how do you draw that again? Uh whatever, looks stupid. Ronald Parker: So what's basically edi the editi idea, sorry, now? Andy Clark: I Ronald Parker: We Andy Clark: think Ronald Parker: need Andy Clark: this Ronald Parker: to stay Andy Clark: is Ronald Parker: here Andy Clark: pretty Ronald Parker: and work out that. Thomas Magruder: I'm not sure. Wayne Dingus: Oh. Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: should be Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: getting Andy Clark: you have to stay Thomas Magruder: new information, Andy Clark: here Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: because Thomas Magruder: guess. Andy Clark: we are supposed to five minutes to finish the meeting. Oh, like my the info that I got was that you're uh we're gonna work on our own because you're gonna do the market market Wayne Dingus: Yep. Andy Clark: uh analysing I'm supposed to do the little work on the year-end report. So the project report. Wayne Dingus: Okay. Andy Clark: Hmm. Okay, I Ronald Parker: Well, Andy Clark: think we're Ronald Parker: I suppose we'll Andy Clark: everybody satisfied with the with the current design we have? Thomas Magruder: Yes. Andy Clark: So we're s Wayne Dingus: Ah, that's fine. Andy Clark: supposed to be rubber. Ronald Parker: Pretty much. Andy Clark: I think well, I think the Wayne Dingus: Round. Andy Clark: the remote control is gonna be black because we we forgot to Wayne Dingus: Wh Andy Clark: talk about I Wayne Dingus: Why? Andy Clark: mean the the company colours are important apparently. So we have Thomas Magruder: But Andy Clark: the Thomas Magruder: we Andy Clark: logo Thomas Magruder: have Andy Clark: up there. Thomas Magruder: any Andy Clark: So Thomas Magruder: company Andy Clark: are we gonna Thomas Magruder: logo. Andy Clark: base Thomas Magruder: We have Andy Clark: colour is black? Thomas Magruder: yes, but and yellow. Andy Clark: And yeah, of course we could use yellow buttons or yellow navigation or whatever. Thomas Magruder: I would change. I would take a yellow Andy Clark: Yellow Thomas Magruder: remote Andy Clark: but Thomas Magruder: control. Andy Clark: yellow control. It's Thomas Magruder: To have it flashy, to have it it's for young people. Ronald Parker: Yeah, but when Andy Clark: Okay. Ronald Parker: you use covers, Thomas Magruder: Need do be different. Ronald Parker: it Wayne Dingus: It's the colour of Ronald Parker: basically Andy Clark: Well, Wayne Dingus: a Andy Clark: don't don't stick Ronald Parker: easier Andy Clark: yourself on the Ronald Parker: to Andy Clark: covers Ronald Parker: have a Andy Clark: right Ronald Parker: n Andy Clark: now. Ronald Parker: have a neutral colour on the base. Andy Clark: But don't stick yourself on the cover because Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Ronald Parker: No, we're designing the remote control now, but taking Thomas Magruder: But we need to Ronald Parker: that Thomas Magruder: be different. Ronald Parker: into consideration, it's better Andy Clark: Nah. Ronald Parker: to have a neutral base colour than to have a flashy Andy Clark: Yeah, but the info. I think Wayne Dingus: But, Andy Clark: we should Wayne Dingus: the Andy Clark: go Wayne Dingus: you Andy Clark: with uh with the company colour because what specific Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: info that I got from the project board. So I Wayne Dingus: The young Andy Clark: think Wayne Dingus: people Andy Clark: we should go Wayne Dingus: want Andy Clark: with that. Wayne Dingus: uh a trendy uh Andy Clark: They want Wayne Dingus: remote Andy Clark: something Wayne Dingus: control. Andy Clark: trendy. Wayne Dingus: So Thomas Magruder: Huh. It's Wayne Dingus: colourful Thomas Magruder: either Wayne Dingus: uh is Thomas Magruder: black cover with yellow buttons or vice versa. And I would say take a yellow cover and black buttons. Ronald Parker: It is more trendy. That's Andy Clark: I Thomas Magruder: To Andy Clark: think Thomas Magruder: be Ronald Parker: definitely Andy Clark: we Thomas Magruder: different. Andy Clark: should th Ronald Parker: true. Andy Clark: then Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: take it take yellow. Take what you c yellow remote control. So let's see if if we can do the LED onto it. Wayne Dingus: You have the basic colours, blue, Andy Clark: Uh Wayne Dingus: green, Andy Clark: oh. Wayne Dingus: red. Thomas Magruder: Yeah, we have so many colours already. So Andy Clark: You know what? Wayne Dingus: Oh, it's Andy Clark: I'm Wayne Dingus: okay. Andy Clark: not gonna do this. Thomas Magruder: Oh no, that Andy Clark: That's up Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: to Thomas Magruder: think Andy Clark: you guys. Thomas Magruder: it's good thing to be different than Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Andy Clark: You doodle Wayne Dingus: Colourful, Andy Clark: a doodle Wayne Dingus: you Andy Clark: us a nice Wayne Dingus: you Thomas Magruder: Well Andy Clark: nice design for for the next Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: meeting, we'll be done. I think Wayne Dingus: Yep. Andy Clark: we're all happy now. Thomas Magruder: I still Andy Clark: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: don't have Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Thomas Magruder: my scroll-wheel though. Andy Clark: Stupid Thomas Magruder: Uh Ronald Parker: Oh, Thomas Magruder: that's Andy Clark: scroll-wheel. Ronald Parker: where would you Wayne Dingus: Yeah. Ronald Parker: like to put it? Thomas Magruder: Nah, that's true. Andy Clark: 'Kay I'm not sure uh I really, I'm no I have no clue what we could use the scroll-wheel for. Ronald Parker: Uh you could use it for Thomas Magruder: No, Ronald Parker: the channels Thomas Magruder: forget it. Ronald Parker: and Wayne Dingus: Oh yeah. Ronald Parker: for the volume. But Thomas Magruder: No Ronald Parker: it's Thomas Magruder: look, Wayne Dingus: You Thomas Magruder: it Ronald Parker: has Wayne Dingus: can Ronald Parker: no Andy Clark: It takes space, a Ronald Parker: real Andy Clark: lot of space. Ronald Parker: added value. Thomas Magruder: No, Andy Clark: And Thomas Magruder: that's Andy Clark: it Thomas Magruder: not Andy Clark: could Thomas Magruder: my point. It's not because it's functional, but it's just to add to the design, to have it flashy. Wayne Dingus: Ah Thomas Magruder: It Wayne Dingus: may Thomas Magruder: it Ronald Parker: Yeah, Thomas Magruder: has Ronald Parker: but if Thomas Magruder: no Ronald Parker: it Thomas Magruder: function, Ronald Parker: has Thomas Magruder: I Ronald Parker: no function, Thomas Magruder: agree. Andy Clark: I'm not Thomas Magruder: I Andy Clark: sure Thomas Magruder: agree. Ronald Parker: then Andy Clark: if it if it has no function, why even put it there? Thomas Magruder: Oh, so Andy Clark: And Thomas Magruder: many things Wayne Dingus: But Thomas Magruder: have Andy Clark: th Thomas Magruder: no Andy Clark: that's Thomas Magruder: function, Andy Clark: just so Wayne Dingus: uh Andy Clark: much Wayne Dingus: uh Andy Clark: things Wayne Dingus: scroll Thomas Magruder: just Andy Clark: that Thomas Magruder: design. Andy Clark: make Wayne Dingus: for Andy Clark: it look flash Wayne Dingus: a channel s selection or volume Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Andy Clark: I think channel selection would be annoying Wayne Dingus: Ma Andy Clark: because it just c you could scroll past the channel Thomas Magruder: Mm-hmm. Andy Clark: or Thomas Magruder: Let's vote Wayne Dingus: Oh Thomas Magruder: on Wayne Dingus: okay. Thomas Magruder: it. Then we Andy Clark: Hmm. Thomas Magruder: don't have to talk about it any longer. Wayne Dingus: Oh okay. Thomas Magruder: What do you want? In or out? Ronald Parker: Basically out. I Thomas Magruder: Okay. Ronald Parker: don't see the Thomas Magruder: You are out of course. You Wayne Dingus: Out. Thomas Magruder: are okay, clear. Andy Clark: No r no scroll-wheel. Okay. Um I don't see anything missing really. Yeah, we should Ronald Parker: Do you Andy Clark: too Ronald Parker: have Andy Clark: bad we Ronald Parker: all Andy Clark: don't Ronald Parker: your Andy Clark: have the Ronald Parker: answers? Andy Clark: finance. We could've Thomas Magruder: I have all my answers, yes. Ronald Parker: Okay. Andy Clark: Yeah, it's I'm not sure if we're if we're gonna get finance anyway because I thought we cou I thought Wayne Dingus: I Andy Clark: it was Wayne Dingus: have Andy Clark: gonna be Wayne Dingus: to Andy Clark: an Wayne Dingus: call Andy Clark: issue Wayne Dingus: this in a form. Andy Clark: at Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: the first time we started. I thought it was Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: gonna be a cost issue which Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: material we were gonna take Thomas Magruder: There is I Andy Clark: relative Thomas Magruder: have one Andy Clark: to Thomas Magruder: question. Andy Clark: the advanced chips or anything. So you just do whatever Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: you like and Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Andy Clark: uh Thomas Magruder: I only Andy Clark: doesn't Thomas Magruder: have one Andy Clark: care Thomas Magruder: question Andy Clark: what it costs. Thomas Magruder: with the material, but I don't have information that. We've Andy Clark: I think Thomas Magruder: chosen Andy Clark: we're Thomas Magruder: rubber. Andy Clark: rubber is not expensive. Thomas Magruder: No, Andy Clark: Definitely. Thomas Magruder: but can we make yellow rubber? I think so Andy Clark: You can make Ronald Parker: Yes, Andy Clark: rubber in any Wayne Dingus: Ah. Ronald Parker: you Andy Clark: colour. Ronald Parker: can colour Andy Clark: In Thomas Magruder: Okay. Andy Clark: any Ronald Parker: rubber, Andy Clark: colour. So Ronald Parker: yeah. Andy Clark: I mean you can't make yellow titanium, but Wayne Dingus: But Andy Clark: you Wayne Dingus: we ha Andy Clark: can make Wayne Dingus: w Thomas Magruder: Mm. Andy Clark: yellow rubber. Wayne Dingus: we Thomas Magruder: Okay. Wayne Dingus: don't uh use our reco uh we uh removable cover? Andy Clark: Uh yeah Wayne Dingus: No, Andy Clark: we can Wayne Dingus: huh? Andy Clark: make uh for example it's just something you can click on it like uh that's but it's not som not apparently that's not something we're working with in the Wayne Dingus: Maybe Andy Clark: basic design. Wayne Dingus: maybe Andy Clark: So. Wayne Dingus: later, maybe Thomas Magruder: Hmm. Wayne Dingus: we can Andy Clark: Yeah, it Wayne Dingus: uh Andy Clark: could be. It can be done, for e

For the conceptual design, Thomas Magruder suggested to use kinetic dynamo as energy source. The decision veered towards the basic battery option with no recharging station. They also decided to go for a single-curved design. The available materials for the casing are plastic, wood, rubber and titanium. Possible interfaces are push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCDs. The inclusion of advanced features, like LCD screen and speech recognition, can only be speculative, because the team have no pricing information. Ronald Parker presented two provisional designs, standard and luxury. The latter has an LCD screen at the top. They are both rectangular with a curve grooved in where the finger rests. There are two lights to help find the remote, all the standard buttons and speech recognition. Wayne Dingus talked about the public's preference for looks over technological innovation; however, they both seem to be more important than ease of use. The current fashion among younger people favours bright colours and fruit and vegetable themes and spongy materials: pertinent exchangeable fronts can express such trends on the remote. Based on Ronald Parker's drawing, they designed another version shaped slightly like a banana, and discussed the positions of buttons and all other components.

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John Pauley: Can Robert Suttee: Uh John Pauley: I close this? Robert Suttee: we don't have any changes, do we So? John Pauley: Oh, Robert Suttee: no. John Pauley: okay. John Pauley: There we go. Okay, here we are again. Detailed design oh, come on. Well Ah s Forgot to insert the minutes, but it's about the same thing we discussed before. Uh Could open that anyway, think. John Pauley: Other design anyway, we took as we took w we took rubber as as the material last time. We also that you're just busy with it. Took the advanced chip to t implement the advanced features. Well, we discussed the design, no sharp corners, we rounded it off, like you see on the other screen, which is fine. Um we agreed that the colour should be b uh yellow and black. Yellow in the back because it's m trendy, more trendy than black anyway. So then we ca yeah. We agreed that we would implement both the L_C_D_ and speech recognition, but I'll get to that in a moment. 'Cause some changes in the finances have left us implications anyway. So so, Charles Anderson: Hmm. John Pauley: like I said, we had no insight in finances, no prices, but we have 'em now, and it's bad. Anyway. We are Oh. Prototype presentation, well first you guys built the prototype. So you could could present that. But um let's see what be handy to do. Nee no, you just go ahead and present the w we'll scrap it later because Antonio Hopkins: I think it's more or less the as we had. John Pauley: What? Robert Suttee: It's basically Charles Anderson: Hmm? Robert Suttee: what we agreed upon, John Pauley: Oh Robert Suttee: but just John Pauley: that's Robert Suttee: a little bit Antonio Hopkins: No much Robert Suttee: more specified. Antonio Hopkins: s John Pauley: hasn't changed that much, huh? Antonio Hopkins: No no no, not at John Pauley: I Antonio Hopkins: all. John Pauley: didn't expect anyway. You just coloured it. Robert Suttee: Uh s Final design. Robert Suttee: Basically in what we discussed, cover and buttons will be made of rubber, yellow colour, black components, as you can see right over here. John Pauley: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: We John Pauley: I like the menu. Robert Suttee: chose a different type of colour for the menu. A bit darker yellow so that it com really shows in this keypad. John Pauley: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: If you black, it's really that good a contrast. So John Pauley: And I suppose the the the yellow is not printed on the on the rubber. It's it's part of the rubber, I suppose. Robert Suttee: Probab Yeah. John Pauley: I think that's more Robert Suttee: That's John Pauley: I think Robert Suttee: the be John Pauley: that's more durable anyway than Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: printed on to Robert Suttee: And it I guess it's more easier to just paint Antonio Hopkins: Yeah, of course. Robert Suttee: it on the rubber than to uh Charles Anderson: Mm Antonio Hopkins: That's Charles Anderson: yeah. Antonio Hopkins: uh the integration story again. Charles Anderson: Okay. Robert Suttee: So we John Pauley: Oh Robert Suttee: have John Pauley: yeah. Robert Suttee: it's a bit round shaped, that's what we had uh We chose the buttons to be uh teletext, okay button, favourite channel and the mute. John Pauley: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: So that's basically what we chose there. John Pauley: Okay. Robert Suttee: If you have anything to add, please interrupt Antonio Hopkins: No, Robert Suttee: Charles Anderson. Antonio Hopkins: uh this is just a description of what we see there. So John Pauley: Yeah. Charles Anderson: Yeah Robert Suttee: Oh. Antonio Hopkins: Speaks for itself. Robert Suttee: That's pretty much it. John Pauley: Okay. Now it's my time to ruin everything. Well, not ruin everything, but Robert Suttee: Oh John Pauley: no, Robert Suttee: sorry. John Pauley: nah. Finances, that's what we have here, what you drew. We have battery power, we have advanced chips and the sam the sensor. The sample sensor and uh for speak recognition anyway. So which you see the which is de o one of the most expensive parts. So well, we have sin one curve, a design. Rubber design. And we had a special colour. Suppose yellow is a special colour. So just half a Euro for You have pushbuttons and an L_C_D_ display. You have the total of seventeen Euros in Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: production cost, which is higher than the twelve and a half that we are permitted to use. So, Charles Anderson: Hmm. John Pauley: easy. What do we scrap. Well Antonio Hopkins: I John Pauley: think Antonio Hopkins: d John Pauley: I had the best solution that I came up with is just to s take out the speech recognition. Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. Robert Suttee: I'd say that John Pauley: Because Robert Suttee: too. John Pauley: the L_C_D_ has more support on customer Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: side. There are ninety one percent of uh the people, or something like that. But ninety percent who favour an L_C_D_ display, and only sixty percent that favour speech recognition. I think it's Robert Suttee: Uh we don't John Pauley: also Robert Suttee: really John Pauley: harder Robert Suttee: have Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: to. Robert Suttee: a extra function with the speech sample, which you can't do with a normal Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Robert Suttee: remote control, which people already do. So John Pauley: So I ju I took that out. So and so it's still stuck with thirteen, so I had to take out the special colour I suppose. And, yeah, I didn't see anything else I could take out. Yeah, Charles Anderson: Pushbut John Pauley: I could take out the push-buttons, but we need those. Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: So, Charles Anderson: Special colour, John Pauley: generally Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: what I came up with, in order to be cou to to have production cost of twelve and a half Euros, spe scrap speech recognition and the separate covers can account for the if people want it, we'll just then we'll do it in black. We'll just deliver it in black, have the it has all the function that it's supposed to have, and if you want it if you want the custom design, then you can buy the separate covers. You Robert Suttee: Well, John Pauley: make it Robert Suttee: I'd John Pauley: d orange Robert Suttee: I tend John Pauley: or whatever Robert Suttee: to John Pauley: you want. Robert Suttee: disagree with you on that, because the trend issue was a big issue when John Pauley: It Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: was Robert Suttee: started John Pauley: a big Robert Suttee: designing John Pauley: issue, but Robert Suttee: this. So can't we just John Pauley: I'll Robert Suttee: basically John Pauley: just go back. Uh let's Robert Suttee: extend John Pauley: just let's Robert Suttee: it John Pauley: see Robert Suttee: to John Pauley: what Robert Suttee: thirteen? John Pauley: okay, let's just see what we no, we we have to be Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: under Charles Anderson: it John Pauley: twelve and a half. It Charles Anderson: The John Pauley: it's Charles Anderson: p John Pauley: not uh Antonio Hopkins: Okay, John Pauley: the project Antonio Hopkins: but there's John Pauley: is a Antonio Hopkins: another John Pauley: no-go Charles Anderson: And Antonio Hopkins: problem. John Pauley: if Charles Anderson: the John Pauley: we Charles Anderson: p John Pauley: go over twelve and a half, Robert Suttee: Okay. John Pauley: so. Antonio Hopkins: But there's another Charles Anderson: What Antonio Hopkins: problem. we take cover, for instance black, then we need button, 'cause black and black doesn't work obviously. John Pauley: I think you that's what you were ass assigned to do really, to Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: to see how b th both those work together. Antonio Hopkins: Huh. Yeah. John Pauley: So I think yeah, it's I think it's y one of the it's a good way to um to help people Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: uh to make to keep the product trendy too. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: Just keep you just make new covers for the for Antonio Hopkins: Right. John Pauley: it, like we agreed before. Antonio Hopkins: I agree. John Pauley: And everything that's left is is the basic function that uh that we want our product to have. Because the expensive parts are in either the advanced chip. But we need that for the L_C_D_ Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: display. Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: We do. John Pauley: Then again, we have the L_C_D_ display, which is also expensive. B yeah, but those go together. And yeah, we could take out the curve. Antonio Hopkins: Or say let's Robert Suttee: We Antonio Hopkins: lose Robert Suttee: could take Antonio Hopkins: rubber, Robert Suttee: out Antonio Hopkins: take Robert Suttee: a Antonio Hopkins: plastic. Robert Suttee: curve indeed. John Pauley: Could we could take out the curve. Is that an option? Antonio Hopkins: Yes. John Pauley: you? Antonio Hopkins: Although Charles Anderson: But uh Antonio Hopkins: we are Robert Suttee: I Antonio Hopkins: demolishing Robert Suttee: think the colour Antonio Hopkins: a Charles Anderson: the Antonio Hopkins: little Robert Suttee: is Antonio Hopkins: bit Robert Suttee: more Antonio Hopkins: the style. Robert Suttee: important than Antonio Hopkins: But Robert Suttee: the Charles Anderson: and John Pauley: Yeah. Robert Suttee: really the curve, because if you just end up with an entirely black remote Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: I think Robert Suttee: control John Pauley: it's it it Charles Anderson: The John Pauley: does Charles Anderson: people John Pauley: ruin it, but Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: the fact that I t took that decision or t Took this example actually, not really decision, but the example is because we do offer the um the possibility of adding your own custom covers. So you can change any colour you want. So it's just you deliver a basic remote control with a possibility to change you into whatever you want. Antonio Hopkins: Can we then not also uh change the material? We take plastic for the basic cover John Pauley: You can take Antonio Hopkins: and John Pauley: plastic, but I d it's something that's stuck into my mind is that something that really came forward from the marketing research is that people like the the the the squishy Charles Anderson: Spongy, John Pauley: feeling of Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: the spongy feeling of the Antonio Hopkins: We can put Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: and Antonio Hopkins: those John Pauley: it really Antonio Hopkins: to the John Pauley: makes it Antonio Hopkins: to the other covers. John Pauley: also makes it different from the existing remote controls, Charles Anderson: And John Pauley: because they're all plastic. Antonio Hopkins: That's John Pauley: So Antonio Hopkins: true. John Pauley: which in in turn Rubber would increase Antonio Hopkins: But John Pauley: durability Antonio Hopkins: okay. John Pauley: because it doesn't break. Antonio Hopkins: But what do you then suggest we'd lose? Because we have to lose two things and I John Pauley: I Antonio Hopkins: guess. John Pauley: al like I said, Charles Anderson: But John Pauley: I lost the speech recognition Antonio Hopkins: Yes. John Pauley: and I lost the special colour, which would make this Antonio Hopkins: Okay, and that's enough? John Pauley: black a black and grey. Yeah, that's that that that's enough, Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: because Robert Suttee: black and grey is okay. John Pauley: I guess those are the Charles Anderson: But John Pauley: basic colours. So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Robert Suttee: Which we can John Pauley: Oh. Robert Suttee: fabricate, okay. Charles Anderson: The John Pauley: I think those Charles Anderson: people John Pauley: are basic col Charles Anderson: want to pay for for it, so John Pauley: They want Charles Anderson: why John Pauley: to Charles Anderson: why uh do we have to keep us uh uh um John Pauley: To Charles Anderson: on John Pauley: ensure Charles Anderson: the twelve John Pauley: the profit. Charles Anderson: and a half? John Pauley: That that's th that's the order. We're just uh we're the project team and we got our our orders from the pro from Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: the boss of our company which say we don't Charles Anderson: But John Pauley: wanna Charles Anderson: we John Pauley: spend Charles Anderson: can John Pauley: more Charles Anderson: take John Pauley: than Charles Anderson: a risk. John Pauley: twelve fifty for this. But that's not for our that's not our decision to take. Robert Suttee: No, we John Pauley: We have Robert Suttee: basically John Pauley: a budget Charles Anderson: yeah John Pauley: of twelve fifty Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: per product. Robert Suttee: We John Pauley: So Robert Suttee: need to stick to that. John Pauley: Stick that. I don't think it's really bad either. I mean if we we have the the backup of or the backup design thing Charles Anderson: I hope the people will like it, but John Pauley: to have I think they would do. Th I think they do like because yo we you we agree upon that the that the the the cover thing was a nice idea, because p you could have all sort of designs while at the same time just manufacturing one product, Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: one basic product which you could turn into any any taste you want. So I think it's the best solution Antonio Hopkins: Perhaps John Pauley: to Antonio Hopkins: we should John Pauley: make Antonio Hopkins: make John Pauley: those Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: cu custom Antonio Hopkins: m John Pauley: covers for the design aspect Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: and keep the functionality between of within the th the boundaries of the your f uh your Charles Anderson: The first sheet. John Pauley: budget. So Antonio Hopkins: Perhaps we should make clear to our customer that we had to do this to stay under the cost. And that's uh they know that this is an option and that we had to drop the option to stay under the cost, that they know that. John Pauley: Well I don't think Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: Perhaps they John Pauley: Is it Antonio Hopkins: decide John Pauley: worth Robert Suttee: But they John Pauley: is Antonio Hopkins: tha Robert Suttee: don't John Pauley: it is it does it mean anything to the customer? Like, it like, Antonio Hopkins: Of course. John Pauley: we don't Antonio Hopkins: Perhaps John Pauley: care Antonio Hopkins: they John Pauley: we don't Antonio Hopkins: uh John Pauley: care that you had to Antonio Hopkins: no, but perhaps they think uh okay, the cover is such a nice idea, uh let's that that then they uh that allow us to make some more costs. We ca we uh we John Pauley: True, Antonio Hopkins: can at least John Pauley: but Antonio Hopkins: tell John Pauley: we did Antonio Hopkins: them John Pauley: we Antonio Hopkins: that John Pauley: didn't get that. So Antonio Hopkins: You don't know John Pauley: I Antonio Hopkins: that. John Pauley: think it's it should either be a pack, Robert Suttee: Well Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: maybe we sh that should be sold in in the s in stores with with a standard cover or something. Antonio Hopkins: No, I'm not John Pauley: But Antonio Hopkins: uh talking about that cost but the one that g has given us the order to design this. We could at least m uh make it like John Pauley: They could, Antonio Hopkins: this, John Pauley: but Antonio Hopkins: like John Pauley: uh Antonio Hopkins: you said, and then tell them okay, we had to drop this and that, just that you know. It is an still an option, but John Pauley: It's Antonio Hopkins: not John Pauley: an option, Antonio Hopkins: for this John Pauley: but Antonio Hopkins: price. John Pauley: yeah, it's true. So actually uh it's not that much of an increase, but yeah. Robert Suttee: And John Pauley: We Robert Suttee: if John Pauley: cannot Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: contact them. It's just Antonio Hopkins: Exactly, Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: the order that Antonio Hopkins: but John Pauley: we got. So that's what we gotta go with. So it's either one fi just just to get it f just to get it through final, it's either turned into plastic, drop the squishy feel, make it make it more Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: breakable, Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: um or turn it yellow. So It's uh something we have to decide on. Antonio Hopkins: I'd say lose the curve John Pauley: I say Antonio Hopkins: and John Pauley: lose Antonio Hopkins: the colour John Pauley: the curve. Antonio Hopkins: and John Pauley: Oh that's true, we could lose the c yeah, I forgot that, sorry. Uh the curve. So Robert Suttee: So which curve is that ba that's basically John Pauley: That's just Robert Suttee: that John Pauley: this Robert Suttee: curve. John Pauley: one just d this is the banana curve. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: So Charles Anderson: that's Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: this Charles Anderson: better. Robert Suttee: we could John Pauley: would Robert Suttee: u John Pauley: this Robert Suttee: still John Pauley: would Robert Suttee: have John Pauley: be straight. Robert Suttee: the comfort. John Pauley: No, uh no, that would be a curve inside the thing, I guess. No, would ju then it would just be a straight remote. Just like like that. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: Which would, yeah, turn it into something far more ordinary. we could make Robert Suttee: I John Pauley: it yellow then, but Robert Suttee: second that. John Pauley: You second that, you second that we lose the curve. Robert Suttee: No, that it would turn out to be a pretty straight-forward remote control. John Pauley: Okay, Robert Suttee: So that's Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: yeah. Robert Suttee: not really Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: So I think it Robert Suttee: that John Pauley: would be a good idea to keep the curve to separate it from the rest of the remote control Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: world, so to speak. So we keep the curve. So Robert Suttee: I would John Pauley: the only only solution is either to use the l y lose the yellow or lose the rubber. And I'm in favour of keeping the rubber, because it has more Antonio Hopkins: Oh. John Pauley: more advantages Antonio Hopkins: I agree. John Pauley: than the colour yellow Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: has. Robert Suttee: I would Antonio Hopkins: No. Robert Suttee: say Charles Anderson: Yep. Robert Suttee: I would agree with you on the colour, because that's an extra option, an extra service we can deliver for John Pauley: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: a little bit of more money. So John Pauley: Yeah, um I guess Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: people Robert Suttee: can always John Pauley: are Robert Suttee: do John Pauley: willing Robert Suttee: that. John Pauley: to pay for that. So I think we can Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: take that Antonio Hopkins: Hmm? John Pauley: option and just with uh with the idea in the back of our head that you can customise your remote control. So Antonio Hopkins: Yes. John Pauley: I think that would still make it a nice product. Okay, we're final on that. So it's too bad we can't make the whole super thing. But anyways we're here. Um Robert Suttee: Which John Pauley: yeah. Robert Suttee: is basically what we discussed. John Pauley: This we discussed just now. That's just now just we could just discuss how the project went. I mean, was kind of Charles Anderson: And I want to John Pauley: I Charles Anderson: do John Pauley: sort Charles Anderson: that. John Pauley: of expected that everything would turn out this way, but because you yeah, everything cannot be for free. We didn't I think it was too bad we didn't have the financial info the last time. Because Robert Suttee: Yes, John Pauley: that Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: was I th Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: it was Robert Suttee: could John Pauley: really Robert Suttee: have John Pauley: essential really to ma because we spent uh uh entire stage designing a product of which we had no idea what Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: it would cost. So we just Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: put something I think it's really nor not in stroke with reality actually. So Antonio Hopkins: Charles Anderson too, I felt a bit blind throughout the project, because John Pauley: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: in the beginning I had no list of John Pauley: Yeah, I Antonio Hopkins: available John Pauley: think Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: would Antonio Hopkins: materials, John Pauley: have been. Antonio Hopkins: and then I d Charles Anderson: But John Pauley: Materials Antonio Hopkins: had not list John Pauley: would Antonio Hopkins: of John Pauley: be Antonio Hopkins: available John Pauley: ok Antonio Hopkins: c finances. John Pauley: at least Antonio Hopkins: So John Pauley: the last meeting I would have expected had to have that. So I suppose Charles Anderson: Let's um see um John Pauley: Yeah, let's see if it sells. I mean I suppose this sells, Charles Anderson: Um John Pauley: because it's very very extended. But Robert Suttee: Well I hope it Charles Anderson: Let's Robert Suttee: sells. Charles Anderson: Uh Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: I suppose it sells, because it's good. Charles Anderson: Oh. John Pauley: I mean it's got everything for the for the reasonable price, because we didn't Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: know what it's gonna cost anyway. Charles Anderson: Hmm. Okay, let's eval evaluate uh the product of us, our design. Um I have some uh a method, a requirements and scale of. I uh will pre present uh some statements and we will decided together wha what if it's true or false and John Pauley: Okay. Charles Anderson: uh then we see uh if the requirements of the user John Pauley: Have Charles Anderson: are John Pauley: been Charles Anderson: fulfilled John Pauley: met, Charles Anderson: or not. John Pauley: okay. Charles Anderson: And I will uh make a new blank sheet. John Pauley: Yeah. Charles Anderson: So so the buttons, the look and feel. I thought it was okay, but the advanced uh settings, um screen, audio and channel Robert Suttee: Which are basically John Pauley: They're stuck under menu. Robert Suttee: accessible Charles Anderson: We are not Robert Suttee: through the menu John Pauley: For Robert Suttee: button. John Pauley: the menu. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: I think those are totally met, because Charles Anderson: Oh John Pauley: we Charles Anderson: the menu button John Pauley: we really Charles Anderson: is John Pauley: took Robert Suttee: Yeah. Charles Anderson: it. John Pauley: them for the Charles Anderson: Hi John Pauley: they Charles Anderson: Oh, okay. John Pauley: have the feel they want, they have the simplicity they want. Charles Anderson: Then it's all uh John Pauley: I think it's very uh very well met. Either two Charles Anderson: S John Pauley: or Antonio Hopkins: One. John Pauley: one Charles Anderson: it's John Pauley: maybe. Charles Anderson: true. John Pauley: I think we took that everything they wanted into consideration. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: So it could either be a two or a one. Charles Anderson: So d Oh wait. John Pauley: One and a half. Charles Anderson: Uh pen. Robert Suttee: Which Charles Anderson: The Robert Suttee: is not Charles Anderson: p Robert Suttee: an option. Charles Anderson: Oh yeah, it's red, John Pauley: Just Charles Anderson: okay, John Pauley: create our Charles Anderson: but John Pauley: own option. Charles Anderson: Look and feel is everybo it's true. John Pauley: Yeah. Charles Anderson: So Anyone? And the next one uh yeah, when it's John Pauley: It's Charles Anderson: lost John Pauley: perfect. Charles Anderson: uh you can find John Pauley: Even Charles Anderson: it. John Pauley: for deaf people, Charles Anderson: It's John Pauley: yeah. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: It's I don't think it's perfect, but we did everything possible to to Robert Suttee: To John Pauley: get Robert Suttee: make John Pauley: it back. Robert Suttee: it that John Pauley: Because Robert Suttee: way, John Pauley: if Robert Suttee: yeah. John Pauley: it's stuck in you couch, you can see the light. Maybe you can hear it. But Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: I mean we tried, so Charles Anderson: And it's John Pauley: I think it that's that deserves a one. Charles Anderson: and it's yeah. John Pauley: Definitely. Charles Anderson: To. That's okay then. And the next one. How is that? Uh w we had we don't have an uh Antonio Hopkins: Manual. Charles Anderson: manual, yeah. But Antonio Hopkins: I Charles Anderson: I think Antonio Hopkins: think Charles Anderson: that's Antonio Hopkins: the Charles Anderson: a Antonio Hopkins: L_C_D_ display Charles Anderson: part of it. But Antonio Hopkins: could be a little John Pauley: I'd Antonio Hopkins: bit more John Pauley: use an Antonio Hopkins: difficult John Pauley: remote control. Antonio Hopkins: then a normal remote control, Robert Suttee: Mm yeah. Antonio Hopkins: but then again, it's for young people. So Charles Anderson: Yeah, an L_C_D_, it tells a lot about uh Antonio Hopkins: Yeah, I Robert Suttee: And Antonio Hopkins: th Robert Suttee: it's pretty straight-forward, you have Antonio Hopkins: Exactly. John Pauley: It's Robert Suttee: a John Pauley: pretty straight-forward, Robert Suttee: navigation John Pauley: uh-huh. Antonio Hopkins: No, Robert Suttee: no Antonio Hopkins: that's Robert Suttee: keys Antonio Hopkins: true. Robert Suttee: to navigate through the L_C_D_ Antonio Hopkins: I think it won't Robert Suttee: menus. Antonio Hopkins: be Charles Anderson: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: a big problem. Robert Suttee: So Charles Anderson: So it's a one or Robert Suttee: One Charles Anderson: a Robert Suttee: I Charles Anderson: I Robert Suttee: d no, Charles Anderson: don't know. Robert Suttee: actu John Pauley: I think but we didn't Charles Anderson: For John Pauley: even Charles Anderson: the advanced John Pauley: there was Charles Anderson: uh John Pauley: no Charles Anderson: settings. John Pauley: issue on making a manual actually. We didn't Charles Anderson: No okay, John Pauley: really Charles Anderson: that John Pauley: discuss Charles Anderson: uh that's John Pauley: it, Charles Anderson: true. John Pauley: but I don't think it takes no, it really does doesn't take time to learn, I think. We took Robert Suttee: No, John Pauley: it Charles Anderson: Oh, John Pauley: s Robert Suttee: it John Pauley: it's Charles Anderson: so Robert Suttee: it John Pauley: so Charles Anderson: it Robert Suttee: is John Pauley: easy, we Robert Suttee: pretty John Pauley: have so Robert Suttee: straight-forward. John Pauley: little button, everything speaks for itself really. So Antonio Hopkins: Ah. John Pauley: I think Antonio Hopkins: Um John Pauley: that's yeah, we didn't it's Charles Anderson: Takes John Pauley: either Charles Anderson: no John Pauley: two Charles Anderson: ti John Pauley: or one, I guess. Maybe it's a two, because d uh the L_C_D_ is a little is a little new and Antonio Hopkins: With John Pauley: there Antonio Hopkins: the John Pauley: is Antonio Hopkins: more John Pauley: there are some Antonio Hopkins: important John Pauley: option Antonio Hopkins: functions John Pauley: hidden under Charles Anderson: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: on. John Pauley: the menu button. So I might Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: make this a two instead of a one, I Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: guess. Charles Anderson: And the L_C_D_, you have to see it. John Pauley: So just make that a two. Charles Anderson: Um mm Oh, it's a little bit learning. Okay. Uh yeah it's uh a little bit same. But Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Charles Anderson: it tells you John Pauley: You Charles Anderson: or John Pauley: can use the Charles Anderson: not? John Pauley: L_C_D_ in a good way. I think so. I think it's perfect, the w where it is, what it can do, if it useful. I think Charles Anderson: But wha John Pauley: so. Charles Anderson: w Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Charles Anderson: oh, yeah. What are we uh displaying on the L_C_D_ screen? Just uh only the channels and or Antonio Hopkins: the menus uh Charles Anderson: What Antonio Hopkins: Things Charles Anderson: uh? Antonio Hopkins: like brightness and uh those kind of things we've put in the menu, because we have no buttons for Robert Suttee: Well, Antonio Hopkins: those. Robert Suttee: basically the menu options indeed. But Charles Anderson: Oh, in the L_C_D_ John Pauley: No, y Charles Anderson: screen. John Pauley: I mean Antonio Hopkins: Yes. John Pauley: in the L_C_D_ screen, the small screen. What Charles Anderson: And John Pauley: does it Charles Anderson: for John Pauley: display? Charles Anderson: a channel selection, uh or John Pauley: Well I Charles Anderson: that's John Pauley: thought it was Charles Anderson: not John Pauley: I thought it was I thought that people wanted previews on their I'm Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: not sure Charles Anderson: I John Pauley: if Charles Anderson: thought John Pauley: that even possible, Charles Anderson: I thought John Pauley: but Charles Anderson: too but yeah. John Pauley: 'cause it's this requires a quite quite a bit of band-width. I don't think it's possible really. But the Charles Anderson: But John Pauley: they didn't really define in what should be used for. Charles Anderson: Maybe Robert Suttee: No. Charles Anderson: a T_V_ guide or something John Pauley: But I think in Charles Anderson: in John Pauley: for Charles Anderson: your John Pauley: example Charles Anderson: L_C_D_ John Pauley: like Antonio Hopkins: Mm. Charles Anderson: uh John Pauley: T_V_ guides, I think that's Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: that th that you can transmit through it and everything. Just for extra information on your programmes. Charles Anderson: Yeah, it must be clear John Pauley: But Charles Anderson: then John Pauley: also Charles Anderson: what John Pauley: things like Charles Anderson: what John Pauley: like Charles Anderson: what for John Pauley: like Charles Anderson: we John Pauley: menus Charles Anderson: use it. John Pauley: or p how about preferences of your uh with configuring your remote control for Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: favourite your favourite channel for example, Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: how do you configure that. So that could be done by L_C_D_ display. I think it's good. No, maybe it's not a one because it's we're not using it perfectly. We didn't give it I don't thing over-discussing. Now we gave it enough thought though. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: I think we d should just lower this. Maybe maybe it's a three though. We could've used it more effectively probably. Charles Anderson: Yeah, indeed. So everybody's agree with an uh three on it, it's Antonio Hopkins: Yes. Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: Yeah, we Robert Suttee: Two John Pauley: are using Robert Suttee: or Charles Anderson: W John Pauley: it, but Robert Suttee: three. John Pauley: it's not Charles Anderson: Yeah. Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: it's not poorly used, but it's not efficiently used, I think. We could have ev even lost the selection button and uh done everything via L_C_D_ selection. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: It's now it's just extra to illustrate im Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: uh Charles Anderson: I John Pauley: extra features, but okay. Charles Anderson: A three. Antonio Hopkins: Nah, it's not really only an extra. Robert Suttee: You Charles Anderson: Ah, Antonio Hopkins: No Robert Suttee: can Antonio Hopkins: menus. Charles Anderson: nothing, Antonio Hopkins: Think about Charles Anderson: that's Robert Suttee: seven. Charles Anderson: A seven. Uh that's uh John Pauley: Can you talk Robert Suttee: Or John Pauley: to Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: remote Robert Suttee: could John Pauley: control? Robert Suttee: say John Pauley: Well, Robert Suttee: it John Pauley: it can't talk anymore. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: So we scrap that. Robert Suttee: Or we could say neutral, we John Pauley: Oh yeah Robert Suttee: 'cause we scratched the John Pauley: Just Robert Suttee: C John Pauley: to be a prick, but of course you can talk Charles Anderson: Yeah John Pauley: to your remote control, it doesn't do Charles Anderson: yeah John Pauley: anything. But Charles Anderson: yeah John Pauley: you Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: c you can talk to Charles Anderson: Not John Pauley: it. Charles Anderson: with the speech recognition. Uh yeah, all the trends and no colours uh anymore. So John Pauley: Well, we did take everything into consideration of course. Uh the Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: shape i shape Charles Anderson: uh John Pauley: is i Charles Anderson: um John Pauley: I think Charles Anderson: only John Pauley: we Charles Anderson: in the John Pauley: yeah, Charles Anderson: curves. John Pauley: I think that's okay. Charles Anderson: But the colours, we don't have special Robert Suttee: No, Charles Anderson: colours Robert Suttee: we Charles Anderson: on Robert Suttee: don't Charles Anderson: it. Robert Suttee: have the colour. John Pauley: Yeah, Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: special Robert Suttee: I John Pauley: co but we took into consideration the fact that it's customisable Charles Anderson: Yeah, but John Pauley: to the Charles Anderson: we John Pauley: fashi Robert Suttee: Yes, but Charles Anderson: yeah, Robert Suttee: the Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: we don't have Robert Suttee: end Charles Anderson: it, Robert Suttee: product Charles Anderson: so d Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: We don't have it we Charles Anderson: In John Pauley: do have Charles Anderson: the end John Pauley: it, Charles Anderson: product. John Pauley: it's Antonio Hopkins: But John Pauley: just sold as a package. It does it's not Antonio Hopkins: M John Pauley: part of the basic product. Antonio Hopkins: Changing covers is also trend that John Pauley: It Antonio Hopkins: we followed. John Pauley: that that's what I call trendy. I mean the shape is trendy. The the sh the the functions are trendy. It's just the colours that are not supporting the basic model. Charles Anderson: Now John Pauley: Because you ha it's just not affordable Charles Anderson: But it's Robert Suttee: Maybe Charles Anderson: not a Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: at Charles Anderson: one. Robert Suttee: should John Pauley: the moment. Robert Suttee: go with a two then, because it's not perfect, Charles Anderson: Yeah. Robert Suttee: because we can't do it initially, but Charles Anderson: Oh. Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: It's possible, Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: but you have to pay extra for the for the possibility of having it in a f a different colour. Charles Anderson: Oh well Oops. Charles Anderson: Oh it's a two, right? Robert Suttee: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Charles Anderson: On the last one. Uh that n that's Robert Suttee: Overall John Pauley: Overall Charles Anderson: all. John Pauley: score. Robert Suttee: score. Charles Anderson: Overall. It's um John Pauley: One two Charles Anderson: ten, John Pauley: three. sixteen. Charles Anderson: sixteen three uh John Pauley: Two two point Charles Anderson: two John Pauley: some Charles Anderson: two John Pauley: two Charles Anderson: point John Pauley: point something. Charles Anderson: seven Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: or something like that. I don't know why. Robert Suttee: Ten, sixteen, divided by Antonio Hopkins: Six. Charles Anderson: Six. Robert Suttee: Is two two third. John Pauley: Two and two thirds. Charles Anderson: Um So we can say it's it's the product is it's okay. John Pauley: It's okay, Charles Anderson: Y John Pauley: but Charles Anderson: not Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: that's yo m mostly Robert Suttee: There's John Pauley: it's it's influenced by the fact that we didn't have enough resources to implement speech recognition. Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: 'Cause yeah, that gives you a seven, which ruins your your average. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: Without that it would be like under it wouldn't yeah, it would be under two. So I think we have Charles Anderson: Woah. John Pauley: even with this it's reasonable. Robert Suttee: Yeah, if we make it into a four, as in neutral, because we didn't implement it, so we can't say that we Charles Anderson: Yeah. Robert Suttee: that it's really not well implemented. We come out on a average of two one eighth. John Pauley: Well I think it's two is okay. Robert Suttee: So which is pretty w Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: good. John Pauley: Yeah, two is Robert Suttee: It's John Pauley: pretty Robert Suttee: at John Pauley: good. Robert Suttee: least on the positive side. So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm, John Pauley: Definitely. Robert Suttee: We Charles Anderson: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: of Robert Suttee: could Antonio Hopkins: course. Robert Suttee: definitely have done better if we've had more resources, but John Pauley: Yeah, I think it's Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: probably Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: I I do admit that we d did miss a little or didn't sp didn't talk talk enough about the possibility of the L_C_D_ display. We could Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: have used it more efficiently, we just didn't think of it that Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: way. Charles Anderson: Yeah, with. Robert Suttee: True. John Pauley: So like I said, changing Charles Anderson: The scale. John Pauley: channels, everything hidden in your L_C_D_ display, so you just need the navigation buttons to do everything. Antonio Hopkins: But I think for this price, this is it's really a reasonable product. John Pauley: I Antonio Hopkins: It's John Pauley: think Antonio Hopkins: a good John Pauley: we Antonio Hopkins: product. John Pauley: div I think we did very well, uh ev even Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: if you look at this score, we did quite well. Charles Anderson: With Antonio Hopkins: Oh. Charles Anderson: an L_C_D_ screen. John Pauley: It just looking for improvements what what Antonio Hopkins: Oh. John Pauley: you could have improved. Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: So. Antonio Hopkins: But if pep people really want speech recognition, then they must be prepared to pu to pay more, because it's Charles Anderson: Yeah, Antonio Hopkins: cannot John Pauley: They sh Antonio Hopkins: be Charles Anderson: you Antonio Hopkins: done Charles Anderson: can Antonio Hopkins: for Charles Anderson: make John Pauley: they should Antonio Hopkins: this. Charles Anderson: 'em another John Pauley: get kids, Charles Anderson: one. John Pauley: and just stick 'em in T_V_ and say change Antonio Hopkins: Hmm John Pauley: the channel. Antonio Hopkins: yeah. Ah but for this price uh you cannot ask that. John Pauley: I don' think Antonio Hopkins: You John Pauley: so. Antonio Hopkins: cannot John Pauley: Uh Antonio Hopkins: th John Pauley: it's just Antonio Hopkins: think John Pauley: not Antonio Hopkins: of John Pauley: it Antonio Hopkins: that John Pauley: it's not affordable. Antonio Hopkins: No, John Pauley: Or your Antonio Hopkins: it's John Pauley: sh Antonio Hopkins: not. John Pauley: you should lose the L_C_D_ screen probably, but I think Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: that's I think the L_C_D_ screen is more worth than speech Antonio Hopkins: Oh John Pauley: recognition. Antonio Hopkins: It's also more attractive. John Pauley: Definitely. Okay, that was that. Charles Anderson: Yeah. Yeah. John Pauley: So that's the final Robert Suttee: So John Pauley: product Robert Suttee: did you John Pauley: without the speakers, I guess. Let's see, what was left in the the Another one. John Pauley: Hmm. Yeah, we evaluate the product. General project, what's i in For example, I thou I thought we were pretty creative in what we created. We took the whole new approach of making exchangeable cover for example, which I thought was pretty creative, because it was never never ever listed somewhere. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: Favourite channel. John Pauley: Well Anyways. Yeah, leadership is up to you. I mean perhaps I screwed up because I d put a put a speech recognition into it. But that's not for Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: Charles Anderson to decide. Charles Anderson: I know. John Pauley: I think Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: we did pretty well as team-work though. Because, yeah Antonio Hopkins: Yes. John Pauley: was very hard to work with one another if you cannot Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: communicate in the meantime, because Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: when Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: I got Charles Anderson: you're John Pauley: the when Charles Anderson: working John Pauley: I got the Charles Anderson: separate. John Pauley: input for the financial results, Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: initially of course I wanted to contact you. Say, look, Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: this is Antonio Hopkins: Huh. John Pauley: you're doing the wrong thing, you're s you're wasting your time now, because we're implementing Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: stuff that Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: we cannot Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: yeah John Pauley: afford. Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: it would be better if y if there was more communication between Charles Anderson: Yeah yeah John Pauley: uh Charles Anderson: yeah. Direct Robert Suttee: And we John Pauley: because Robert Suttee: could John Pauley: that's Robert Suttee: share Charles Anderson: uh communication John Pauley: that's Robert Suttee: information John Pauley: what would w you what Charles Anderson: with Robert Suttee: which John Pauley: you would Robert Suttee: we John Pauley: normally Robert Suttee: received. John Pauley: do, Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: either call or email someone. So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: that was too bad con was impossible here anyways. Antonio Hopkins: That's the same thing that I had in the beginning. Everybody was using materials that s I didn't have. So John Pauley: It didn't Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: have or didn't knew what they costs Antonio Hopkins: Oh. John Pauley: or whatever. There was just Robert Suttee: Yeah. John Pauley: too little information about what things actually cost and Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: if you could use them. So that was a little unclear I suppose. I think a SMARTboard SMARTboard is pretty cool. I think uh s especially for design issues, Charles Anderson: My handwriting John Pauley: it's very Charles Anderson: is John Pauley: easy Charles Anderson: little John Pauley: just Charles Anderson: bit John Pauley: to Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: give your give your thoughts a little Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: it's easier to share them. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Robert Suttee: Although for actual design I'd say John Pauley: It's Robert Suttee: the John Pauley: a little Robert Suttee: response John Pauley: less Robert Suttee: time John Pauley: it the Robert Suttee: should John Pauley: response time Robert Suttee: be John Pauley: is Robert Suttee: a John Pauley: le Robert Suttee: little bit John Pauley: it's Robert Suttee: higher, John Pauley: very bad. Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Robert Suttee: because John Pauley: It's good to visualise everything, but I think the response time should could be a lot better. Robert Suttee: The digital Charles Anderson: But Robert Suttee: pen Charles Anderson: th Robert Suttee: was Charles Anderson: that's Robert Suttee: definitely better to draw my John Pauley: Definitely. Robert Suttee: ideas Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: and to John Pauley: Yeah, Charles Anderson: Yeah, okay. Robert Suttee: further John Pauley: it's Robert Suttee: elaborate John Pauley: true. Robert Suttee: on that. So Antonio Hopkins: But there's uh also one problem with this I noticed. Uh you have to finish a page before John Pauley: No, you don't Antonio Hopkins: going John Pauley: have Antonio Hopkins: to a John Pauley: to. Antonio Hopkins: n Charles Anderson: No. John Pauley: No, you don't. I jin Charles Anderson: You Antonio Hopkins: Oh. John Pauley: I Charles Anderson: can John Pauley: didn't check the finish button. I just you just ditch Charles Anderson: Done John Pauley: it and Charles Anderson: and John Pauley: you Charles Anderson: then John Pauley: can Charles Anderson: it's John Pauley: copy Charles Anderson: okay. John Pauley: it or whatever. Antonio Hopkins: Okay, I saw that uh John Pauley: Uh only if you uh check the notes or press done. Then it um then you can then it exports to Word Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: automatically. But it's not necessary to check either one of those two. You Antonio Hopkins: Yeah, John Pauley: can Antonio Hopkins: but John Pauley: just Antonio Hopkins: I made John Pauley: preview Charles Anderson: Oh, John Pauley: your p you Charles Anderson: okay. John Pauley: can just preview your page in the in the programme. Antonio Hopkins: Okay, Charles Anderson: Okay, Antonio Hopkins: but I made three pages Charles Anderson: yeah. Antonio Hopkins: and they were not finished. And when the third one was finished, I wanted to download it and then it was not possible anymore, because you have to close all the pinnits uh the pages before going further. John Pauley: Okay, before starting Charles Anderson: Okay. John Pauley: a ne a new page. Okay, Antonio Hopkins: Exactly. John Pauley: that could Antonio Hopkins: So John Pauley: be Antonio Hopkins: we cannot John Pauley: b. Antonio Hopkins: work on more Charles Anderson: Oh. Antonio Hopkins: than one page at same time. That's not possible. Charles Anderson: Hmm. Antonio Hopkins: You John Pauley: Okay. Antonio Hopkins: have to finish Robert Suttee: Oh can Antonio Hopkins: it completely, Robert Suttee: you? Antonio Hopkins: then Robert Suttee: Okay. Antonio Hopkins: download it, it's then start a new one. John Pauley: Yeah, okay. Antonio Hopkins: That's not very uh handy, but John Pauley: That's Antonio Hopkins: if you know that, then John Pauley: Yeah, Antonio Hopkins: it's not a John Pauley: it's Antonio Hopkins: problem. John Pauley: understandable, okay. Any new ideas? Yeah, more communication between between uh that's the thing I noticed, that communication is very um Charles Anderson: Important John Pauley: very Charles Anderson: to mm John Pauley: important, because if you get new information, it's essential f for the other team-mates to know that as soon as possible, because you would avoid making doing extra work, because you were doing extra work now uh m working on the on the speech recognition, Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: you have limitation both on the technical on the d on the design side. So I think that could have been better. But that's I think it's more of a a setting here that you cannot communicate Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: than uh than somewhere else. So Robert Suttee: Yeah, well it could also possibly be well, is it a more real-time information base, so we can all see John Pauley: Yeah, I think so. And l less Robert Suttee: which John Pauley: p Robert Suttee: information John Pauley: less spam Robert Suttee: is available John Pauley: probably. I'm Robert Suttee: to John Pauley: not Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. Robert Suttee: one John Pauley: sure Robert Suttee: another. John Pauley: i I'm not sure you got spammed as well, but I get spammed like every t every two minutes there Antonio Hopkins: Ah. John Pauley: was a there Antonio Hopkins: Well John Pauley: was another email about master classes or something. So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: which were totally useless actually. I thought I should probably look into them, but they were all useless. So I just Robert Suttee: Well, I personally Charles Anderson: Mm Robert Suttee: did not have that, but John Pauley: Oh okay. Robert Suttee: That's probably your l description. But I also didn't not really. But still, you had that as well. Antonio Hopkins: Huh. Robert Suttee: Is that we finished up the design and then we checked the website, and Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. Robert Suttee: then there Charles Anderson: Yeah, Robert Suttee: was Charles Anderson: after Robert Suttee: just extra information. Charles Anderson: After five minutes, uh Antonio Hopkins: Yeah, Robert Suttee: There was a little delay in the Charles Anderson: Yeah. Robert Suttee: bit John Pauley: I didn't have Robert Suttee: of a John Pauley: any Robert Suttee: c John Pauley: uh more information, it's just Robert Suttee: crucial John Pauley: always Robert Suttee: delay. John Pauley: the same here. Antonio Hopkins: Mm. John Pauley: So that's that's kind of a Charles Anderson: Email uh John Pauley: It would change, but not for Charles Anderson. So I'd I had no extra information to go Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: on that one than what you give Charles Anderson Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: actually. I couldn't do any research myself or Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: I see, that's yeah, w I could have done a little extra work probably, then Charles Anderson: it's John Pauley: But I was busy enough anyway. So Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: Any new ideas found? Or is that a 'cause Antonio Hopkins: No. John Pauley: uh yeah, it's well, probably Robert Suttee: How much John Pauley: is. Robert Suttee: time do we have for this anyway? John Pauley: I have no clue. That's like oh,but it Should i if the project is evaluated and it was it was in b within budget, we should celebrate. So Antonio Hopkins: Okay, bring out the beer. Robert Suttee: Yeah. Champagne. John Pauley: Uh okay, Charles Anderson: I want one John Pauley: think that's Charles Anderson: for John Pauley: about Charles Anderson: my own. John Pauley: it. Uh I'm not sure what we should still do though uh t let's see what all your tasks were finished, right? Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: What you ha Antonio Hopkins: I have John Pauley: from Antonio Hopkins: no John Pauley: your Antonio Hopkins: more email. John Pauley: assistant. So Antonio Hopkins: My John Pauley: let's Antonio Hopkins: coach is uh being very silent now. Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: Okay, Charles Anderson: my John Pauley: I Charles Anderson: personal John Pauley: should Charles Anderson: coach John Pauley: I think Charles Anderson: i John Pauley: I sh I still have the the total report to finish up. I think we took very little time now, because Yeah, we're in agreement, everything the design is okay. The one thing we missed though, we don't Charles Anderson: What John Pauley: have a product name. How about you Antonio Hopkins: we Robert Suttee: Product John Pauley: cook a how Antonio Hopkins: haven't Robert Suttee: name. Antonio Hopkins: think John Pauley: about Antonio Hopkins: above Charles Anderson: Yeah, John Pauley: you Antonio Hopkins: about John Pauley: cook Antonio Hopkins: that. John Pauley: up a product Charles Anderson: name. John Pauley: name? Antonio Hopkins: Huh. It's better than thi I think than a serial number. Sony uh T_R_ something uh Charles Anderson: Or Antonio Hopkins: f John Pauley: Just Charles Anderson: fruit Antonio Hopkins: means nothing Charles Anderson: name. Antonio Hopkins: to Charles Anderson. John Pauley: oh, think of a catchy name. Antonio Hopkins: Uh John Pauley: I'll be working on this until the beep until it beeps. So Antonio Hopkins: Like fruit names. Charles Anderson: Fruit name or something like that. The John Pauley: What? Charles Anderson: banana John Pauley: Fruit? Charles Anderson: remote or something. John Pauley: You don't want Charles Anderson: I John Pauley: it to Charles Anderson: don't John Pauley: resemble Charles Anderson: know. John Pauley: a banana. Charles Anderson: Yeah, it's the form Robert Suttee: The Charles Anderson: of John Pauley: It's Robert Suttee: bana Charles Anderson: it. John Pauley: not yellow anyway. Robert Suttee: 'cause it's not yellow Charles Anderson: Yeah Robert Suttee: anymore. John Pauley: It's not Charles Anderson: oh, John Pauley: yellow anymore. Charles Anderson: yeah. John Pauley: It is curved, but Charles Anderson: Uh yeah. Robert Suttee: Well, Charles Anderson: Uh Robert Suttee: uh I was going for the R_C_ deluxe, but it's not really a catchy name or anything, it's more John Pauley: No, it's Antonio Hopkins: Uh John Pauley: Hmm. Antonio Hopkins: at least it's not something with numbers. Numbers are so meaningless to the Charles Anderson: Yeah. Antonio Hopkins: people. I mean. Robert Suttee: Something Charles Anderson: That's true. Robert Suttee: with our company name, can we do anything with that? Charles Anderson: Reaction, Robert Suttee: Maybe there's something Charles Anderson: Real Robert Suttee: on Charles Anderson: Reaction. Robert Suttee: the website which will help us out. Antonio Hopkins: Real Reaction. Robert Suttee: The reaction John Pauley: Real Reaction Robert Suttee: deluxe. John Pauley: future R_C_. Step into the future of of remote controlling your T_V_. Robert Suttee: Is that a name or a c John Pauley: No Robert Suttee: campaign? John Pauley: that's a that's a catchy slogan. Robert Suttee: Yeah. Or John Pauley: Control Robert Suttee: the John Pauley: your remote control. Robert Suttee: The real reactor. Antonio Hopkins: Real react. John Pauley: I go for future R_C_ probably. Something like It's Antonio Hopkins: The John Pauley: short Antonio Hopkins: Real Reactor, John Pauley: f Antonio Hopkins: I don't find that uh that bad at all. John Pauley: Real reactor? Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. Because John Pauley: Uh Antonio Hopkins: our John Pauley: that Antonio Hopkins: name John Pauley: that's Antonio Hopkins: is Real Reaction. Robert Suttee: a an option. John Pauley: That makes Charles Anderson think of different products than a remote control really. I'm not sure. Real reaction in a real Charles Anderson: Zapping. The Robert Suttee: So that's one option. John Pauley: Real reactor. John Pauley: Didn't notice. Antonio Hopkins: I'm looking for things in the name. John Pauley: Mm. Antonio Hopkins: So that the first three letters are s Robert Suttee: Should I Antonio Hopkins: the Robert Suttee: write Antonio Hopkins: same. Robert Suttee: the banana Antonio Hopkins: R_E_A_ Robert Suttee: down Antonio Hopkins: R_E_A_. Robert Suttee: or Charles Anderson: Yeah, sure. John Pauley: I take f yeah, Robert Suttee: Sure? John Pauley: take a banana. Charles Anderson: The banana. John Pauley: Hmm. Charles Anderson: Remote. Banana recei Antonio Hopkins: The triple Charles Anderson: R_C_. Antonio Hopkins: R_. Real Reaction remotes Charles Anderson: Remote. Antonio Hopkins: control. Robert Suttee: Well I Antonio Hopkins: Triple R_. Charles Anderson: R_ three C_. Robert Suttee: Uh do you mean it like Charles Anderson: R_ three C_. Antonio Hopkins: yeah. Robert Suttee: You mean it like this? Antonio Hopkins: Yeah, that. Charles Anderson: Real Reaction Remote Control. R_ three C_. Oh yeah. John Pauley: No, not like that. It should be it should be longer, because it's not a product name that you f Antonio Hopkins: I John Pauley: print Antonio Hopkins: think John Pauley: on a box. Antonio Hopkins: triple R_. Doesn't John Pauley: Just Antonio Hopkins: sound? John Pauley: write out triple, Charles Anderson: Yeah, triple John Pauley: like a word Charles Anderson: R_. John Pauley: triple R_C_, triple Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: stripe Oh. Triple Charles Anderson: Triple Antonio Hopkins: Ah. John Pauley: dash Charles Anderson: R_C_. John Pauley: R_ dash s s C_. Charles Anderson: The triple R_C_, yeah. John Pauley: Yeah. Charles Anderson: R_ s R_ three C_. John Pauley: R_ dash C_. Robert Suttee: Dash Antonio Hopkins: I Robert Suttee: C_? Antonio Hopkins: think I like it John Pauley: Dash. Antonio Hopkins: like this more. John Pauley: Triple R_ or triple R_C_? Robert Suttee: Like a Charles Anderson: Triple Robert Suttee: C_ right Charles Anderson: R_ dash. Robert Suttee: now or a dash in a C_? John Pauley: How about do both? Sure if it looks stupid. Uh I think that the the R_C_ together takes away the the the image of it's a triple Antonio Hopkins: Hmm. John Pauley: Uh the first the Antonio Hopkins: Mm. John Pauley: first one looks like it's a triple Charles Anderson: That John Pauley: remote control, but it's only a single remote control. And it's especially on the triple R_ that's important. Charles Anderson: Yeah, Antonio Hopkins: I John Pauley: The Real Antonio Hopkins: would John Pauley: Reaction Charles Anderson: this John Pauley: Remote. Antonio Hopkins: huh. Charles Anderson: yeah. Antonio Hopkins: I would lose the C_ and just name it triple Robert Suttee: Is it triple Antonio Hopkins: R_. Robert Suttee: R_C_s? No. Antonio Hopkins: It sounds like uh thinking about two Charles Anderson: Triple Antonio Hopkins: different Charles Anderson: remote. Antonio Hopkins: things and combining it. I would just say triple R_s triple R_ Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: Yeah, Robert Suttee: Well, John Pauley: triple Robert Suttee: that's another John Pauley: R_ Robert Suttee: option. John Pauley: yeah, you can Antonio Hopkins: That's also short, Charles Anderson: It's okay. Antonio Hopkins: catchy. Robert Suttee: Okay, John Pauley: Yeah, triple Robert Suttee: so which John Pauley: R_. Robert Suttee: ones are we going to scratch definitely? Charles Anderson: The banana. Antonio Hopkins: Banana. John Pauley: Banana Charles Anderson: Banana. John Pauley: remote. Robert Suttee: I say this one as well. Charles Anderson: Yeah, the deluxe. John Pauley: I think we're all in agreement about the triple R_. I think Antonio Hopkins: Yes. Charles Anderson: The John Pauley: triple R_ Charles Anderson: r Robert Suttee: Triple John Pauley: is cool. Robert Suttee: R_? Charles Anderson: triple R_. Robert Suttee: Triple John Pauley: And it Charles Anderson: Yeah. John Pauley: looks Robert Suttee: R_ John Pauley: cool Robert Suttee: it is. John Pauley: when you print it in font, looks pretty cool. Antonio Hopkins: did you do now? John Pauley: Just like this just and you just print triple R_, Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: it looks doesn't look bad, it's short, it's okay. Antonio Hopkins: Yeah. John Pauley: So have to write my report now, I guess. Um Um Yeah, so we have everything. We have the product, we have the costs, Antonio Hopkins: Yep. John Pauley: we have Charles Anderson: It can't John Pauley: the Charles Anderson: work. John Pauley: possibility Charles Anderson: That will not John Pauley: of everything. Okay. I think it's adjourned. Retire to my lair and finish the report. That was a short meeting. Antonio Hopkins: Mm-hmm. John Pauley: But efficient though. Antonio Hopkins: The boss is always the last one to go home. So John Pauley: Probably. See. Okay, Charles Anderson: Okay. John Pauley: goodbye. Antonio Hopkins: See you in a minute. Charles Anderson: Damn. I will write that one in a Word uh document. Antonio Hopkins: Okay. John Pauley: Could you guys draw Charles Anderson a picture of the final design to put on the cover of the Robert Suttee: Yeah, John Pauley: report? Robert Suttee: sure. Antonio Hopkins: Can't we take this one? Charles Anderson: Oh sh Antonio Hopkins: Otherwise we have to Charles Anderson: Um Antonio Hopkins: do it all over again. Robert Suttee: I don't really know whether we can save it as a picture or no. Antonio Hopkins: Is it okay if I try? Is that okay with Robert Suttee: Sure. Charles Anderson: Yeah, Antonio Hopkins: you? Charles Anderson: okay, I will ask you when uh Antonio Hopkins: I'll put it Charles Anderson: I Antonio Hopkins: back Charles Anderson: need Antonio Hopkins: in Charles Anderson: the Antonio Hopkins: a minute. Charles Anderson: information. So it's oh. Antonio Hopkins: Okay, it has been saving something, but Charles Anderson: Uh Antonio Hopkins: where to I don't know. Charles Anderson: Oh. Merge. Antonio Hopkins: Oh, can I say exp yes, I can. Charles Anderson: Sucks. Antonio Hopkins: Export as J_ PEG. Antonio Hopkins: Okay, can I not put this wherever I wants. My document is the wrong one, huh. Charles Anderson: Yeah, but Antonio Hopkins: I cannot. Robert Suttee: Network Charles Anderson: I don't know. Robert Suttee: places. Charles Anderson: Smart no. Ma it's maybe it's not on the network of uh the rest. Antonio Hopkins: I don't think so. Charles Anderson: That one is. Antonio Hopkins: Document and settings. Robert Suttee: I wouldn't pick that one, no. Antonio Hopkins: That's a pity. That means that we have to gonna draw it again. Are you gonna do that? Robert Suttee: Sure. Antonio Hopkins: Okay. Robert Suttee: Oh. Antonio Hopkins: That Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes, that's correct. Charles Anderson: Yeah. Okay. Antonio Hopkins: Okay. No. Oh, it's export. Charles Anderson: Oh yeah, Antonio Hopkins: Okay. Charles Anderson: Can I see scores? Uh, Antonio Hopkins: Oh, of course. Sorry. Charles Anderson: one one, two threes, two Okay, then we'll overall, two points. Yes. Robert Suttee: I see you later. Charles Anderson: Yeah. Charles Anderson: Mm.

Robert Suttee and Antonio Hopkins presented a prototype drawing of the remote control design. The rubber case is yellow with black buttons and dark yellow for the menus. There are buttons for teletext, favourite channel, mute and OK. It incorporates both LCD screen and speech recognition. The prototype proved over budget (17 euros). The main contributing factors were the LCD and speech recognition. The latter was taken out, along with the special colour. Everyone agreed that the financial information should not have been given to them at the last moment. After the costing, the original prototype was evaluated on a scale of 1(excellent)-7(very bad). The criteria used were look and feel (1), whether it is easy to find (1), whether it is easy to learn (2), use of LCD (3), speech recognition (7), trendiness (2). Finally, the team evaluated the project process in terms of creativity (satisfactory), leadership and teamwork (happy with it, but they missed communicating in between meetings), and means (SMARTboard could be improved in terms of response time, the digital pens could not be used on more than one page at the same time). Finally, the decided to call their design Triple-R.

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Virginia Roth: Is that alright now? Okay. Sorry? Okay, everybody all set to start the meeting? Okay, we've got half an hour for this one Pamela Whatley: Could you plug Virginia Roth: um Pamela Whatley: Pamela Whatley in? Virginia Roth: to uh discuss the um functional design. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Thanks. Virginia Roth: All ready to go? Okay. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Um so hopefully you've all been working away, and I've put the minutes of the last meeting in the project folder. Um so I guess just to to recap on uh what we did last time. Um kind of uh got to each other a little bit and uh got familiar with all the equipment and started to discuss um a bit about the project, you know, cost-wise how much how much money we had to s Virginia Roth: Um just want to tell you that you have three new requirements, um which is the The first one is that um uh the company's decided that teletext is outdated uh because of how popular the internet is. Nobody uses teletext very much anymore, Pamela Whatley: 'Kay. Virginia Roth: so we don't really need to consider that in the functionality of the of the remote control. Um they've also suggested that we um we only use the remote control to control the television, not the V_C_R_, D_V_D_ or anything else. I think the worry is that if the project becomes too complex then it'll affect um how long it takes us to get it into into production, the time to market. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: So um, we're just gonna keep it simple and it'll just control the T_V_. And the other thing was that the company want the corporate colour and slogan to be implemented in the new design. Um I'm not entirely sure what the corporate colour is. It might be yellow, because there seems to be a lot of yellow everywhere. Pamela Whatley: And the slogan, like the actual written slogan, or just to embody the idea of the slogan? Virginia Roth: Well that's the thing, I'm I'm not sure um uh th because on the the company website, uh what does it say Pamela Whatley: 'Bout Virginia Roth: Uh something Pamela Whatley: putting the fashion in electronics. Virginia Roth: Yeah, Theresa Perla: Mm yeah. Virginia Roth: I mean do they Is that something they want actually written on it, 'cause it's quite long. Um or yeah, just the idea, but I'm not sure. So that's something we can discuss as well. So those are the three things, just not to worry about teletext, uh only control the T_V_, and um and uh incorporate the uh colour and slogan of the company. Um so is everybody okay with any of that, or do you want Pamela Whatley to recap at all? Theresa Perla: Nope, we're all set. Virginia Roth: Right um, time for presentations then. Who would like to go first? Kristen Richey: I'll go first. Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: Okay, cool. Kristen Richey: Alright um, I st steal this from the back of your laptop? Virginia Roth: Oh Kristen Richey: Uh Virginia Roth: yeah, of course, yeah. G go on ahead. Kristen Richey: so this is the technical functions design. Um Right to do the um the design I have I've had a look online, I've had a look at the homepage, which has given us um some insp inspiration from previous products. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Kristen Richey: Um I've had a look at the previous products to see what they offer about the design at the end of the meeting. Um unfortunately we're not allowed to talk outside the meeting room, so Pamela Whatley: Right. Virginia Roth: Okay. Kristen Richey: Um, having a look at the existing products, I found out that um it tends to come in sort of two extremes, there's either um a very complicated one that's got lots of buttons, lots of colours, very confusing, you don't know what you're doing. Um in that case the the labelling tends to be very bad. Um there's an example I'll show you at the end, um sh show you now. Uh Virginia Roth: Alright. Kristen Richey: here um the button there and there. This one's prog. Sorry. That one's perg and that one's prog, and it doesn't really tell you what it does. Kristen Richey: Um, not sure if you had a a look at the other um control in that example. Um it's a very simple one. It's got only the basic functions mm but um it's the same size as the the Virginia Roth: Oop. Kristen Richey: hard to use one. Uh it looked a bit clunky. They're very big and not very much use for buttons. Um, and it's just very hard to access the advanced functions. There's there's nothing for instance for a slow motion button. Um, my own preferences, I prefer the the clunky one. Um it's very easy to use. Um but unfortunately it does lack the advanced functions which I I quite like having on the controls. Um so I believe the the advanced functions should maybe be hidden in a drawer, or something like tha from the bottom of it. So, now I'd like to ask for your preferences. Um not sure of how long we've got, uh Virginia Roth: Um. Well we can chat away for uh for five minutes or so I think at Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: at most. Just a couple of minutes anyway. Pamela Whatley: M yeah, like a lot of a lot of what I've um read and prepared for this meeting fits in really closely with what with what Craig's just gone over. So in part I could I could give you some of my personal preferences but I could also th add some to this which is just about sort of um sort of market research. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: But anyway, um Virginia Roth: Shall we sh well Pamela Whatley: we might Virginia Roth: we'll Pamela Whatley: come Virginia Roth: stick Pamela Whatley: to that later. Theresa Perla: Which Virginia Roth: to kind Theresa Perla: which Virginia Roth: of Theresa Perla: is Virginia Roth: your Theresa Perla: the clunky Virginia Roth: area Theresa Perla: one, Virginia Roth: for now. Theresa Perla: the one on left Kristen Richey: Um, Theresa Perla: or Kristen Richey: the Theresa Perla: on Kristen Richey: clunky Theresa Perla: the Kristen Richey: one Theresa Perla: right?.. Kristen Richey: is the one on the right. Theresa Perla: Okay. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Um clunky in what sense, like um h heavier? Larger? Kristen Richey: Um I think it's supposed to be the same size, but um it's got much fewer buttons. It's, you know, Pamela Whatley: I see, so Kristen Richey: it's Pamela Whatley: it's more Kristen Richey: very Pamela Whatley: just Kristen Richey: spread out Virginia Roth: Looks Kristen Richey: and Pamela Whatley: basic. Virginia Roth: kind Kristen Richey: kind Virginia Roth: of Kristen Richey: of Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Right, okay. Kristen Richey: you know, I get the idea it'd be sort of about this size. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Kristen Richey: got very few buttons on Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Kristen Richey: it and Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: Well I think it's a valid point. I mean like the one on the left looks quite um quite complicated, and that P_R_T_ p P_R_O_T_ thing is incredibly confusing. Um so I see I see why yo you know you might prefer the simpler design, but yeah you don't want to lose out on, you know, what it does, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: so maybe you know you know you get a lot of remote controls where you kind of flip the thing open, I think that's a Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: good idea. I Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: think it's a good idea. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Kristen Richey: Um, do we have any functions that um we'd want on it? I mean so far I've got um on and off, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Kristen Richey: um switch the channel up and down, and put the volume up and down. Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Kristen Richey: Um they're just the the very basics you could use for a T_V_. Virginia Roth: Uh-huh, and then actual numbers for channels as well, yeah. Kristen Richey: Okay. Um, you say that's a h a required one or a requested one? Pamela Whatley: Which Kristen Richey: Would you Pamela Whatley: was that? Kristen Richey: like um the channels like the the numbers Pamela Whatley: Up Kristen Richey: on Pamela Whatley: the numbers, Kristen Richey: thing, Pamela Whatley: or the up down? Virginia Roth: God, Kristen Richey: um Virginia Roth: I wou I would say that's required, I mean there's no way anybody's gonna buy a remote control these days when if you can't actually individually Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: select channels, I mean would anybody disagree Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: with that? Um, what else, uh So don't need to worry about teletext, don't need to worry about V_C_R_, uh any kind of Pamela Whatley: We Virginia Roth: like Pamela Whatley: don't? Virginia Roth: display Pamela Whatley: No? Virginia Roth: controls at all do you think we need to worry about, you know like Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: brightness and contrast? Pamela Whatley: Well I think I think es essentially what we're doing right now is we're categorising. We're saying well we want this to be a product that offers all the Virginia Roth: Mm. Pamela Whatley: sort of more tricky features but we want them to be in another area? Is that right? Is that what we're Virginia Roth: Yeah. Kristen Richey: Um, Pamela Whatley: we're doing? We're kind Kristen Richey: yeah. Pamela Whatley: of like sorting them an Or Kristen Richey: Um Pamela Whatley: are we actually eliminating things we just don't want the product to have? Virginia Roth: I think are you are you maybe kind of thinking what we absolutely have to have and what would Kristen Richey: Uh, Virginia Roth: be nice? Kristen Richey: to start with um sort of a bit both, um we need to find out exactly what we have to have Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Kristen Richey: um and after that we can add things if they're possible. Virginia Roth: Okay, right. Well, do you wanna maybe just, at this point decide on what we absolutely must have as Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: a p as a function of this. Pamela Whatley: Yep. Virginia Roth: Um, so so far, just to recap you've got Kristen Richey: There's um Virginia Roth: volume Kristen Richey: on and off, Virginia Roth: and channel Kristen Richey: um Virginia Roth: control and Kristen Richey: volume and channel, and skip to certain channels with the numbers. Virginia Roth: Right okay. Um Pamela Whatley: Well, one one way I would look at this um would be that we a approach the different controls in terms of um like control types, so that for the user it's very clear what they want to do where they Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm Pamela Whatley: go. Virginia Roth: yeah. Pamela Whatley: Uh and also think maybe a little bit about sorta w w what would just wanna be acc easily accessible. For example Virginia Roth: Oka Pamela Whatley: if we had audio controls, those could be something people set up very rarely. Maybe they're un they're they're they're in a little area Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: but covered up um, things like channel and volume um are used all the time, so we just have them right out on top, um very just very sort of self-explanatory. Um so maybe we need to think about having three or more groupings of controls, you know like one which are just the the habitual ones that should be right within your natural grip. And others that are uh also available and then others that are concealed. Something Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: like that. Virginia Roth: Uh well, just to to wrap up quickly on this this little section Have I just lost Oh no. Um, uh do you think maybe that's the only kind of uh essential requirements, and then maybe just things that would be nice if it could do would be things like audio set up and display set up and things like that, maybe like a mute button, that sort of thing. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Any of you anything to add to that at all? Theresa Perla: No. Virginia Roth: No. Theresa Perla: I'll add it later, I guess the Virginia Roth: Okay, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: presentation. Virginia Roth: right. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Um okay, if we can move on to next presentation then please. Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: Um Kristen Richey: Do Virginia Roth: Do Kristen Richey: you Virginia Roth: you wanna Kristen Richey: want to Pamela Whatley: Can Kristen Richey: switch places? Pamela Whatley: this can this pl reach? Can this plug Theresa Perla: No. Pamela Whatley: come across? Virginia Roth: Probably Theresa Perla: No. Virginia Roth: not, actually. Pamela Whatley: No. So why don't I just pick up and move Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: then. Here, I'll just Why don't I just Pamela Whatley: Mm Kristen Richey: Just just switch them. Pamela Whatley: er, can you go up behind Pamela Whatley? Kinda This is so This Virginia Roth: bit complicated. It'd Pamela Whatley: I'm all in Virginia Roth: be Pamela Whatley: a Virginia Roth: nice Pamela Whatley: knot Virginia Roth: if everything Pamela Whatley: now. Virginia Roth: was wireless, wouldn't it? Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Right. Pamela Whatley: Um. So I can I can say already, I dunno whether this is for good or for bad but there'll be a lot of kind of uh redundancy in the in the the issues and the the uh Virginia Roth: Oh, like Pamela Whatley: the things. Virginia Roth: overlap between Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Virginia Roth: what you said? Pamela Whatley: yeah. Which Virginia Roth: that Pamela Whatley: is ma not Virginia Roth: that'll happen. Pamela Whatley: necessarily a bad thing, but may what I've already started doing is cr I created a slide in in my presentation here so um so that we kind of think well what's the cumulative effect of what we've taken from your ideas and and mine, because certainly I I have a hard time separating separating things completely. Obviously Virginia Roth: Mm hard to know what Pamela Whatley: obviously Virginia Roth: where your Pamela Whatley: what Virginia Roth: role Pamela Whatley: you've just Virginia Roth: ends, Pamela Whatley: told Virginia Roth: yeah. Pamela Whatley: Pamela Whatley what you've just told Pamela Whatley impacts a lot on what um like market research mm that that I've been So Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: how do I how do I get Theresa Perla: Um Pamela Whatley: this Theresa Perla: function Pamela Whatley: up? Theresa Perla: F_ eight. Virginia Roth: Uh pr yeah, press Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: function and F_ eight, yeah. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Alright. So F_ eight? Theresa Perla: Function, the blue button. Next to the control on the left. Pamela Whatley: Oh, and F_ Theresa Perla: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Mm. Pamela Whatley: eight. Theresa Perla: You Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: have to push it together. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: Yep. Pamela Whatley: Okay, I think that that's doing it now. Theresa Perla: Nope. Try that again. Pamela Whatley: Uh, again? Kristen Richey: Think maybe the Theresa Perla: Wait. Kristen Richey: the wire in the back might be loose. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Yeah, you wanna Pamela Whatley: Um, Virginia Roth: Oh oh here Theresa Perla: Yep, Virginia Roth: we Pamela Whatley: okay Theresa Perla: there Virginia Roth: go. Theresa Perla: we Pamela Whatley: great. Theresa Perla: go. Virginia Roth: There you go. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Just um Before I bring this up what I'll just say is um what I've what I've done is tried to collect some information so that I can then relay this to to you guys so that it's now becomes a collective thing. And then kind of lead us in the direction of deciding, 'kay what what are our options, what should we decide and do you know what I mean, so. Theresa Perla: Increase Virginia Roth: Um Theresa Perla: that 'cause see the Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: That's much better. Virginia Roth: Right. Can you um Theresa Perla: There Virginia Roth: Right, Theresa Perla: you go. Virginia Roth: okay. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Alright. That would be Okay. So um does that make sense? So what I basically got is I just looked into some information and sort of th tried to think about how how we could review it and how we could and what kind of decisions we could take away from it and then maybe by the end of just looking at some of these things we can think about what are our priorities. 'Cause certainly there's lots of different information to go through. So um I'm thinking here about uh primarily about customer needs, that we start with the customer, and w you know, what they want and what are issues with with um existing products. Uh to think about trends and also about try and connect that as you see with the company vision which is about fashion in electronics. Um and then, as I say uh w we'd like to prioritise our design features from this and um Theresa Perla: Bouncing on top. Pamela Whatley: Dunno. Okay. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Um. found here, um a lot of this is new to Pamela Whatley, so we'll just read through together. Um, users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls. So they find them ugly. Most people find them ugly. Um the vast majority would spend more money for it to look fancy as well, we'll see later, the vast majority would spend more money for um slightly more intuitive control, such as Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: voice recognition. Okay I'm gonna we'll look at that in a second. Um most people use only a f a very slim portion of all the controls. So I guess what we're looking at here is people want this h technology, they tend to use the most simple controls and overall they find remote controls to be something they don't doesn't really appeal to them. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: So I think what we're doing is we're trying to take like if for Pamela Whatley this is sorta like three different different um inspirations, you know, one is that we want uh something that's high-tech but we want it to seem easy. And in spite of the primitive side of it and the very high-tech side, we want it to just be an appealing piece of equipment in people's hands. Um, frustrations. They get lost a lot, s as it came up in our last meeting. Um, takes time to learn how to use them. This is uh why I mention when Craig was uh showing us some ideas that we actually try and group controls, so d it doesn't just look like a big panel, kinda like when you you look at, you know, a new computer keyboard, or something that is quite explanatory. If you want audio, if you want visual, then you have those. Um and I will admit I don't know what R_S_I_ stands for. Virginia Roth: Repetitive strain injury. Theresa Perla: Is installing a new remote control something that people Pamela Whatley: Uh, no, that did not come up at all. Um so here here is another um sort of a a review here of the main things. I also found that most people would uh adults at least would pay more for voice recognition. Now apparently we do have access to all the tech cutting edge technology in remote control. So I dunno if that's possible we might consider getting into it. Um. And and again here as we sort of move m sort of thin start thinking about how we wanna sell and market this, I think a recurring theme here is the company wants it to be wants us to make something that's fashionable and sleek Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: and trendy. Um people uh additionally aren't aren't liking the appearance of their products, so we wanna think about as we take all the sort of the techie features how we can um put that into a unit which is which people like. You know, Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: they like the aesthetics and the ergonomics. Virginia Roth: So want something that looks good and is easy to use, Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: big priorities. Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: so you know just c looking at what what Craig um Craig's i uh ideas are s sorta tell Pamela Whatley that maybe what we wanna do is try and um separate the different things that we wanna include in this. So if we do say well we want there to be all the technology will we try and make that almost be like optional technology. You know, it's like like I find a lot of T_V_s these days, something really like about 'em is if you wanna just turn 'em on and off you can, but they have little panels where you click Virginia Roth: Mm. Pamela Whatley: and there's just like tons of features Virginia Roth: So Pamela Whatley: you Virginia Roth: it Pamela Whatley: go Virginia Roth: you Pamela Whatley: through. Virginia Roth: wanna group all the different kind of Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: types of functions together, you know. That's I think Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: it's a good idea. Pamela Whatley: That's s that's sort of the um But I I'm my hope here is that I'm putting out this information so that we can then say okay, well how do we collectively move Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: on with it. Um Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: I I haven't brought out one specific marketing idea, although my sense is that what we should try and think about is what are the current trends in materials and shapes and styles, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: and then use that. But not let that confine us technologically. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: So Virginia Roth: Right. Pamela Whatley: Alright? Any um comments on all of that? Virginia Roth: Well, um Pamela Whatley: That's Virginia Roth: one Pamela Whatley: uh Virginia Roth: of the things that we have to decide on by the end of the meeting is who we're gonna be um who's our our target audience, our target market. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Um, so if we want something that that looks good and is easy to use, but has y is fairly powerful product, whatever, who do we really want to aim that at? Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: I mean Pamela Whatley: Where's the money, maybe. Virginia Roth: Yeah, who wou who would have the money to spend. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Well i if Pamela Whatley: And who watches Virginia Roth: if like Pamela Whatley: T_V_. Virginia Roth: twenty five Euro is our is our selling price Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: then you can imagine, well I don't I'm not really sure how much that will Pamela Whatley: Mm. Virginia Roth: retail at. But you want it's somebody who's not gonna just use the remote that comes with their telly, I suppose, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: they're gonna actually go out and buy one. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: So, who do you think we're aiming this at? Theresa Perla: Um, I think it'll be the mid range to the high end market, in terms of people. 'Cause twenty five Euros for a remote, how much is that lo locally in pounds? Virginia Roth: It's about sixteen, seventeen pounds, I think. Theresa Perla: Is that too is that a lot of money to buy an extra remote or a replacement Virginia Roth: Yeah, Theresa Perla: remote? Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: okay. Theresa Perla: Right. Um so maybe not the high end range, but maybe middle, middle up-ish. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: Kind of. You know how much? I dunno I guess you pay, Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: what, ten ten quid for a remote? Like a simple replacement, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: right. I mean if you lost your remote and the first thing Virginia Roth: Yeah, Theresa Perla: you just wanna go Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: out and get, Virginia Roth: yeah. Pamela Whatley: This Theresa Perla: would you Pamela Whatley: this Theresa Perla: how much Pamela Whatley: kinda Theresa Perla: would you Pamela Whatley: touches Theresa Perla: pay? Pamela Whatley: on your comments there, David. These are the age groups which we Theresa Perla: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: have information on and these are this is a table of h what people would pay more for a certain feature. Just Virginia Roth: Okay Pamela Whatley: gives us a rough idea of where the w the will to spend money on T_V_ equipment is. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Mostly focused around the twenty five age group. Virginia Roth: Yeah, so do you think we're we're aiming at a fairly young market then? Theresa Perla: Yep. Pamela Whatley: Sort of young professional, kind Virginia Roth: Yeah, Pamela Whatley: of. Mm-hmm Virginia Roth: okay. Kristen Richey: Um Virginia Roth: Um do you think then uh voice recognition is something we should really seriously consider? What what do you think, Craig? Kristen Richey: Well, did you not say it was the the adults that were going for the the voice recognition? Sort of the Pamela Whatley: Uh, Kristen Richey: the older Pamela Whatley: yeah, Kristen Richey: group. Pamela Whatley: it's the Yep. Kristen Richey: Uh Pamela Whatley: It Kristen Richey: f Pamela Whatley: does it does fit with the market that we're sort of identifying, Virginia Roth: N yeah. Pamela Whatley: in terms of Virginia Roth: I think we are gonna have to narrow it down, to say let's target these Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: people and give them what they want and Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: 'cause you know, Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: there needs to be some kind of Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: selling point to Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: it. So um anybody anything there to add Just kind of young professionals, uh th like if we are going to include speech recognition, it's kind of between fifteen and thirty five seems to be like a really high response to that. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: So we could say Theresa Perla: I Virginia Roth: that Theresa Perla: I Virginia Roth: was Theresa Perla: think Virginia Roth: our target. Theresa Perla: twenty five to thirty five is is is fair to add that in as Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: a group Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: as well because Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: that's more than half your group of people who are willing to at least try Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Theresa Perla: and use your technology. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: yeah. Virginia Roth: Okay, so fifteen to thirty five, look fairly young. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: Yeah. Virginia Roth: You know, they have bit of expendable income to spend on this sort of thing. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: I think perhaps that age group is significant as well because those are people who use the computer, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: who are familiar with their with computers in in their everyday work. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: I think people who are maybe about Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: I wouldn't say thirty five, but people who are about Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: forty-ish and above now Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: would Pamela Whatley: But Theresa Perla: not Pamela Whatley: yeah. Theresa Perla: be so dependent and reliant on a computer Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: or Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Theresa Perla: a mobile Pamela Whatley: sure. Theresa Perla: phone or something like that. Virginia Roth: So Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: So these are people who are gadgety, right? People Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: who are u growing up used to, you know in schools and in universities, when you go on to their working lives, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: people who would Virginia Roth: So Theresa Perla: you Virginia Roth: they'll Theresa Perla: know regular Virginia Roth: not sh not shy Theresa Perla: Yeah. Virginia Roth: away from something Theresa Perla: Yeah. Virginia Roth: quite high-tech. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: That that's Theresa Perla: Mm. Virginia Roth: that's a good point. Um okay, so um so shall we make the decision uh to include speech recognition Pamela Whatley: If we can. Virginia Roth: if we can. Theresa Perla: I I think Kristen Richey: Yeah. Theresa Perla: one thing we should try not to avoid is not to say we have to use speech recognition right now, Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: because Virginia Roth: Why is that? Theresa Perla: um, based on what you've go y everybody's saying, right, you want something simple. You want basic stuff and you want something that's easy to use. Speech recognition might not be the simplest thing Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: for somebody Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: to use. Pamela Whatley: Could it be an on off thing? Theresa Perla: Um, Pamela Whatley: Like if you want it Virginia Roth: Where you can Theresa Perla: but Virginia Roth: activate Theresa Perla: what Pamela Whatley: on Theresa Perla: I'm saying Virginia Roth: it and Theresa Perla: is Virginia Roth: deactivate Theresa Perla: that we're Virginia Roth: it? Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: we're trying to lock ourselves into a s particular kind of technology, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: rather than focusing on on exactly what are the features that we're Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: gonna say, Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: and then, you know, Pamela Whatley: Sure. Theresa Perla: say speech recognition is good for this, speech recognition is not good for this. Pamela Whatley: Sure. Theresa Perla: So Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: maybe we should I suggest Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: that we think about speech recognition, Pamela Whatley: Sure. Theresa Perla: anyway it's a it's something that can be used to fulfil a function, but Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Theresa Perla: at end of the day we don't look at the technology, but Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: we look at the function first. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Sure. Yep. Virginia Roth: Uh okay, well do you wanna um give us your presentation Theresa Perla: Okay, sure. Virginia Roth: and then then we can I Pamela Whatley: Yep. Virginia Roth: don't know um might have been a good idea to all deliver our presentations and then discuss, Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Virginia Roth: but Pamela Whatley: it's Virginia Roth: this is Pamela Whatley: good Virginia Roth: this Pamela Whatley: well Virginia Roth: is Pamela Whatley: it's Virginia Roth: how we're Pamela Whatley: good to get ideas out while Virginia Roth: Yeah, Pamela Whatley: they're fresh in mind. Virginia Roth: exactly, yeah. Pamela Whatley: Um Virginia Roth: Oh it's something that's just occurred to Pamela Whatley as well is if we make it um speech reco if we incorporate speech recognition, that's appealing to people um maybe with Pamela Whatley: Not Virginia Roth: a physical disability as well. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Um. Pamela Whatley: And not losing. And also it helps in terms of people not losing this, you know they Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: they're saying oh it's I lose it in the couch. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: like we're kind of what we're b sort of getting in into here is mating different uh design features Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Pamela Whatley: together that they Kristen Richey: I reckon one problem with speech recognition is um I've actually seen one of them used and uh the technology that was in that one wasn't particularly amazing, so you end up yelling at the control for hours. Virginia Roth: Really? Pamela Whatley: Right. Kristen Richey: Channel up. Pamela Whatley: Oh really, you've seen one before. Virginia Roth: Do you think maybe we need like Kristen Richey: Um Virginia Roth: further advances in that kind of area until it's worthwhile incorporating Kristen Richey: I think it'd Virginia Roth: it Kristen Richey: probably Virginia Roth: though? Kristen Richey: quite expensive Theresa Perla: Sorry, do Kristen Richey: to Theresa Perla: you mind passing Virginia Roth: Mm. Kristen Richey: put in. Theresa Perla: Pamela Whatley my Virginia Roth: Course Theresa Perla: notepad. Virginia Roth: not. Theresa Perla: Thanks. Cool, Virginia Roth: There you go. Theresa Perla: um. Okay. Um. Virginia Roth: Right. Theresa Perla: Well this is just the working design Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: um. Well this is just what how I would go about it. Um I guess I try to define like what we're doing now, try to define what we're trying to get done. Um Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: I think in a practical way, we kind of know what it is. We've used it, we're familiar with it, but we're we can't n we haven't narrowed down um exactly what the things we're trying to fulfil, like Besides the basics, I think back in the back of our minds we know what the basics are. Has to change channels, has to change volume, but in like specifics, right, which one of the basics are you trying to target. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: Um are there certain parts of the basics that are more important or less important than the basics? Um and I just the idea is just to get everybody to um I usually have a have have a design that's there as a basic, so, you know, things that to start everything going. But I guess everybody does have some idea, so I don't think um there's a need for that. Um okay this finding things is a little bit confusing, so I'll go into the diagram first. It just explains how the process goes through, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: from a from the basic technology point of view, the basic steps that you need um in the diagram and in this slide probably works better. Um okay, you need some power source. 'Kay, a battery or something, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: to keep it going. Um and that power source is important because it ties you down to um how long the device will last. Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Theresa Perla: Um it ties you down perhaps a bit later on in terms of the technologies um how far you can transmit the signal or the complexity of the functions Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: that you want. Like for example, voice recognition, right. might be constrained because that you might need to power a microphone, you might need to power other things, so that's one perhaps constraint there. Um Th Okay, the basic thing is there's a user interface where people punch a button or talk into it or smile to it or blink their eyes, whatever. Virginia Roth: Hmm. Theresa Perla: You know, and that um picks up an input from a user, um uh a logic a series of logic has to decide what the user is telling the device, and the device has to r you know, based on you push button A_, so I will do something with button A_. So maybe button Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: A_ is the power button, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: okay. Um and then it needs to be able to send the signal out to the device itself which is the receiver here. Um and I think that's about it in terms of my design um. It's fairly general, um and I guess the purpose of this is also not to restrict you Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: in in the way you're thinking, like um voice recognition, right, um, if it's something which is important then we just add more power rather than having a thing that we don't have enough power. So it's not Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: really a constraint in that sense, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: but I mean these are functionally, you know, the base, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: what Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: the technology has to do. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: Um so I guess the rest of it I think we should maybe you you wanna go back to what the functions are? I think that's Pamela Whatley: 'Kay. Virginia Roth: Uh. Theresa Perla: more relevant to a discussion? Virginia Roth: Well, do Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: you wan do you wanna finish up Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: your your whole presentation Theresa Perla: Yeah, w I'm done. Virginia Roth: then? Are you are you all done? Theresa Perla: More or less. Yeah. Ps Oh, it's just putting the rest of it into words, but it's essentially Pamela Whatley: Yep. Theresa Perla: the same thing. Virginia Roth: Mm. Theresa Perla: Um you have a transmitter, an input Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: device, logic chip, you know, stuff Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: like that. Um Virginia Roth: Right. Pamela Whatley: And like on the means Theresa Perla: I guess this would Pamela Whatley: b Theresa Perla: be Pamela Whatley: Since we're on the topic of the technology, Theresa Perla: Yep. Pamela Whatley: uh are there any like what are our options? Alright, what's what i in Is this the only way that we go about it, or are there Theresa Perla: Um, Pamela Whatley: other Theresa Perla: these these Pamela Whatley: thin Theresa Perla: aren't technology options in that sense. Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: This is just um Pamela Whatley: The basic Theresa Perla: a Pamela Whatley: principle Theresa Perla: basic Pamela Whatley: of Theresa Perla: principles Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: and Pamela Whatley: 'Kay. Theresa Perla: basic components that are needed. Pamela Whatley: Right. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: For example, if you needed um if you needed to add uh a voice recognition, right, then your user interface would be split, broken down into more components, Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: right, which you have a microphone, Virginia Roth: Oh. Theresa Perla: the V_R_ Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: and stuff like that. Virginia Roth: So this just show how Theresa Perla: Uh Virginia Roth: we're kind of modularising the whole Theresa Perla: Yep. Virginia Roth: thing. Okay. Theresa Perla: Yep. So each component represents one function, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: but I think the basic functions are the logic, the transmitter, um and the receiver, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: okay, and the power are things that you won't have to care about. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: Um and those are things that based on what your user interface requires then Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: we'll add more functionality to it. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: Um there might be one other consideration which would be that the the transmission between the remote control and the T_V_ for example. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: Okay, Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: um are we gonna restrict ourselves to using the traditional technologies of infra-red Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: thing? Because that's something you need to actually be physically be pointing to. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: Right. Virginia Roth: Well well a worry that was was expressed in the new requirements was that if we made this too complex it would e it would effect um how long how long it took us to get this to market, so I th suspect it might be a good idea just to restrict our kind of our creative influence on this on the user interface and not worry so much about uh how we transmit it Theresa Perla: Yep. Virginia Roth: um because I mean it it's tried and tested intra-red, so Theresa Perla: There might Virginia Roth: we Theresa Perla: be Virginia Roth: could Theresa Perla: one Virginia Roth: stay with tha Theresa Perla: other problem with the transmission, um in particular right now, since we're talking about voice recognition. Um if somebody's gonna h talk to the device, you ideally Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm Theresa Perla: want them to hold it to them. Virginia Roth: Oh, Theresa Perla: I it Pamela Whatley: Right. Virginia Roth: yeah. Theresa Perla: you may not require that, but Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: you know, um it's it's it's something very natural, I guess, Virginia Roth: Yeah, Theresa Perla: you know, to Virginia Roth: mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: hold it, to signal to the user, and push a button maybe to start s talking Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: about it. Then you need to send the signal out, so Virginia Roth: Mm. Theresa Perla: because if you're using infra-red, the line of sight Virginia Roth: Mm. Theresa Perla: um say the T_V_'s at that chair, and I'm standing in front of here and the transmitter is here, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: it blocks it. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: So in that sense, there's not really a restriction but it's something which Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: you may have to think about later on in the process. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: Not so much Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: further Pamela Whatley: And Theresa Perla: down. Pamela Whatley: um just a clarification before we finish this. Uh does c is our controller is it have the option of being um on a standard uh frequency as all of the other equipment, so that the one controller can control Theresa Perla: There's there's not much specific Pamela Whatley: several pieces of Theresa Perla: specific Pamela Whatley: equipment? Theresa Perla: information, Virginia Roth: W Theresa Perla: but I think that um one indication of infra-red mean that you're just targeting traditional devices. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: Because Virginia Roth: W Theresa Perla: infra-red is something which everybody has. Virginia Roth: Well well we've um In the new requirement spec they said just to focus Pamela Whatley: Just Virginia Roth: on Pamela Whatley: to Virginia Roth: the T_V_, Pamela Whatley: T_V_, okay. Virginia Roth: so that's what we should do for now I think. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Something I was wondering about was the power. Um, is it worth considering like having like a charging unit as opposed to just regular batteries? I mean is that something we really want to go into, do you think, or should we Theresa Perla: There's Virginia Roth: just consider Theresa Perla: a there's Virginia Roth: running Theresa Perla: Okay, Virginia Roth: on Theresa Perla: from Virginia Roth: regular Theresa Perla: from Virginia Roth: batteries? Theresa Perla: a from a component point of view there's added complexity, Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Theresa Perla: and you add cost to it, Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Theresa Perla: um and then there's probably the fact that you need another physical component. You need a docking cradle, for Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: example, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: for you to Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: put it in to charge. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: Or you need to get the user to plug it in. Um Virginia Roth: Okay, so Theresa Perla: and most users are very f use already used to the idea of buying batteries and putting it into Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: the controller. But unless the controller's gonna consume a lot of batteries, like he's gonna run through like Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: twenty batteries a month, then I don't think rechargeable is something we should you know, we Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Virginia Roth: Okay, Theresa Perla: really Virginia Roth: so Theresa Perla: need Virginia Roth: just Theresa Perla: to Virginia Roth: stick to to regular Theresa Perla: care about. Um. Virginia Roth: Okay. Um, right. So basically the um I'm just gonna just recap uh what I said at the start, was that um the the whole point of this meeting was to f absolutely finalise who we're gonna aim this at, and Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: what exactly the product's gonna do. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: So um just to recap on Are we all happy about the idea of um aiming the product at um the fifteen to thirty five bracket? Pamela Whatley: Yeah, Virginia Roth: Um Pamela Whatley: that's Virginia Roth: and Pamela Whatley: good. Virginia Roth: also the funct the the actual functions of what it's gonna do. Do you wanna recap on that, Craig? Kristen Richey: Um. I think we just say that it was gonna be the the most basic stuff possible. Um on off, up and down channels, up and down volume and uh skip to a channel. Virginia Roth: Okay, Kristen Richey: Ta. Pamela Whatley: And Virginia Roth: right. Pamela Whatley: is it going to include any of the uh the more advanced features, or are we gonna eliminate those? Kristen Richey: Um I think we include mute, but apart from that um I think we just we'll go for the simpleness. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: Okay, Pamela Whatley: R Theresa Perla: I Pamela Whatley: is Theresa Perla: think Pamela Whatley: it is it is it s is it not an option still that we include some things just as a sort of under like sort of under a door Virginia Roth: Yeah, Kristen Richey: Yeah. Virginia Roth: it's Pamela Whatley: or Virginia Roth: as Pamela Whatley: some Virginia Roth: optional functions. Pamela Whatley: 'Cause what what I'm I'd be a bit worried about is if someone was h had previously developed habits of expecting to control surround sound or this and that with their controller and then and then they, you know, w they get ours and w it's doesn't have that. I dunno Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: if that'd be a problem. Theresa Perla: Another thing that you were saying about categorising the controls? Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: Um maybe I could suggest we we break them down into three simple categories. Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Okay. Theresa Perla: One would be audio controls, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: one would be video controls, Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: and the other one would be a device. Um this may not map very well to advanced functionality especially, but I think that um from a manufacturer's point of view, Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: from a person designing the device, but I think from a point of view of a person using the device, you know a T_V_ is something they see and something they hear, Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: um it's something they do other things to like turn it on and turn it off. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: I mean like Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: so what we could have is like three buckets, right, where we could throw things into, like if we want this feature, let's throw it into there, Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: and then from there decide whether it's basic, or it's non-basic. Pamela Whatley: 'Kay, okay. Theresa Perla: I mean Pamela Whatley: Like Theresa Perla: it Pamela Whatley: that. Theresa Perla: might help with the visualisation. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: And it would actually help with the component build Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: as well. Virginia Roth: Okay, Pamela Whatley: Mm okay, great. Virginia Roth: right. Um, okay well I gotta kind of got five minutes to wrap up now. Um next thing we're doing is having lunch. Whoohoo. Um and then we're gonna have thirty minutes of working on the next stage. Um so I'll be putting the minutes of this uh this meeting into the project documents folder. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: Um so uh I guess just to just to confirm that we know what we're doing in the next well Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: in the thirty minutes after lunch anyway, um for uh our Industrial Designer, you're gonna be thinking about the components concept. Um User Interface Designer gonna be thinking about our user interface, and marketing you're gonna be thinking about trend watching. Um and you'll all get specific instructions as well. So um I dunno, just just to to ask now if you've got anything else you've thought about while we've been talking. Um, do you wanna start with David. Anything else to say at all? Theresa Perla: Mm no, not Virginia Roth: No, Theresa Perla: really. Virginia Roth: okay. Pamela Whatley: Um Virginia Roth: Andrew? Pamela Whatley: yeah, just I just wanted to ask then before we wrap up, shall we agree for sake of um sort of clarity and when we when we r resume that we'll u use this idea David's proposed, where we think of these three sort of buckets and Virginia Roth: Yeah, Pamela Whatley: anything Virginia Roth: yeah I think Pamela Whatley: anything Virginia Roth: that's definitely Pamela Whatley: we discuss Virginia Roth: a good Pamela Whatley: about Virginia Roth: idea. Pamela Whatley: them is sort of, okay, we're talking about this. Virginia Roth: Uh-huh. Pamela Whatley: Shall we Theresa Perla: Mm. Pamela Whatley: do that, then? Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Okay, great. Kristen Richey: Um just about the three buckets, um what would go in the the device functions one? Theresa Perla: Um things like on off. Because they don't have anything to do with what you see. Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: I Pamela Whatley mean in terms of picture and the entertainment value, you know, um Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: so um Pamela Whatley: And Kristen Richey: Um Pamela Whatley: and channel. Theresa Perla: And channel. Pamela Whatley: Right. Theresa Perla: Because the on off also goes, you know, like on off like power, not on off sound. Not Virginia Roth: Yeah. Theresa Perla: on off video. Although you don't turn off the video on your T_V_, but um you Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: might wanna you know turn off the sound, say you wanna pick up the phone, there's a mute button, right, so Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: you you have you have a choice of putting it on to um others or a device. Device is basically anything which we can't categorise, right. Virginia Roth: Okay, Theresa Perla: We Virginia Roth: so Theresa Perla: put it Virginia Roth: you're Theresa Perla: out. Virginia Roth: gonna have um audio which is gonna be like you know your bass settings and Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: actual volume Theresa Perla: Yeah, anything to do with Virginia Roth: hi Theresa Perla: what you hear, right. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: You you put that into audio. Virginia Roth: Okay, Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: And Virginia Roth: and then Theresa Perla: then Virginia Roth: visual Theresa Perla: video is anything that you can see. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: Okay, Theresa Perla: Um. Virginia Roth: so brightness, contrast, Theresa Perla: Yep. Virginia Roth: things like that, Pamela Whatley: Colour, yeah. Virginia Roth: and then just actual device things, Theresa Perla: Yep. Virginia Roth: like Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: what channel you're watching, Pamela Whatley: Sure. Virginia Roth: turning on an off, Theresa Perla: Yep. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: stuff like that. Okay, Pamela Whatley: And Virginia Roth: um Pamela Whatley: then k I suppose quite likely what would happen is in the d device category there might be some which are just like the habitual standard and then others which are maybe a bit more Theresa Perla: Like Virginia Roth: Mm-hmm. Theresa Perla: random which we Pamela Whatley: Yeah. Theresa Perla: have no other place to put, Virginia Roth: Yeah. Pamela Whatley: Sure, Theresa Perla: but we Pamela Whatley: okay. Theresa Perla: need it somewhere there. Virginia Roth: Okay. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Theresa Perla: Um even even if it doesn't map very clearly what happens is that people at least have some in their mind. It's easy to use, I think that's one thing that um and I guess from the component point of Virginia Roth: Okay. Theresa Perla: view it's easy to build as well 'cause things are like fixed. Pamela Whatley: Okay. Virginia Roth: Okay. Um so yeah, I guess just things to think about are you know like the fact it's gotta look good, because of who we're we're, you know, targeting this at. Um something maybe kind of quirky in design maybe. Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: Make it kind of ergonomic kind of to Pamela Whatley: Mm-hmm. Virginia Roth: hold, you know, things like that. Um, so I guess I guess that's it. Pamela Whatley: Great. Virginia Roth: That's the meeting over. Whoohoo. Pamela Whatley: Then we get to go find out what was picked up for lunch for us.

Virginia Roth briefed the team on some new requirements to consider when designing the remote. Kristen Richey presented two existing products and discussed what was wrong with each product. The team discussed how to create a remote which did not include the problems present in the existing products presented by the interface specialist. Pamela Whatley presented consumer preferences and requirements and the team discussed who their target demographic should be and whether to include speech recognition in their product. Theresa Perla discussed the interior workings of a remote and the team discussed various options for components and energy sources. The team then discussed features to include in the remote and what they could do to figure out how to categorize them.

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Eileen Bullard: 'S to do now is Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: to decide how to fulfil what your stuff is, so Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: in that sense Susy Froedge: Yeah, Eileen Bullard: so Susy Froedge: sure. Eileen Bullard: it does kind of Maria Smith: Okay, Eileen Bullard: make Susy Froedge: It Eileen Bullard: sense, Maria Smith: well Susy Froedge: kinda Eileen Bullard: yeah. Susy Froedge: does make, doesn't it, because when we get into the end of meeting we're kind of talking about action and design as opposed Eileen Bullard: Yep. Susy Froedge: to background. Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: Everything I have is kinda background. Maria Smith: Okay we to go? Eileen Bullard: Yep. Maria Smith: Well how um on the in this meeting then if we um I'll just just recap on the minutes from the last meeting. And we uh decided on Eileen Bullard: Yep. Maria Smith: decided on our our target group being fifteen to thirty five, Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: and we decided that it was gonna be non-rechargeable battery-powered, that we're gonna group our audio-visual and other functions into into those categories, um. And I told you guys about the three requirements about ignoring, except the T_V_, and trying to incorporate the corporate colour slogan. Um so that was the last meeting. Is there Eileen Bullard: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: anything have I forgotten anything? Eileen Bullard: No. Susy Froedge: Uh Maria Smith: Is that Susy Froedge: that Maria Smith: everything? Susy Froedge: sounds. Maria Smith: Okay. Um so if we have the three presentations, and then if you have anything to kind of that you know you're gonna want to discuss, maybe just make a note of it, and we'll have all the discussion at the end. That might Susy Froedge: Sure. Maria Smith: be a better idea this time. And so Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: if we start off uh with Andrew and then Craig and then David, if that's Susy Froedge: Sure. Maria Smith: alright. Um Eileen Bullard: Yep. Maria Smith: and then after that we'll have to make some decisions about stuff, Susy Froedge: Yeah, Maria Smith: right. Susy Froedge: cool. Maria Smith: So if Susy Froedge: Why don't Maria Smith: you wanna Susy Froedge: I get that? Maria Smith: take this. Susy Froedge: Hmm. Maria Smith: Screwed in quite tightly. Uh what did uh how did we leave it with speech recognition now? We did we say we were gonna try maybe incorporate it but we hadn't made a definite Eileen Bullard: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: decision on that? Right. Oh I should also point out that um the you know the kind of final objective of this meeting is to reach a decision on the concepts of the product. Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: So um that's kind of the end result hopefully. Susy Froedge: Okay. Um alright so c is it function F_ eight? Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Hopefully Susy Froedge: Hmm. Maria Smith: appear in a wee second. Susy Froedge: Come on. I think it's working. Maria Smith: Up there we go. Susy Froedge: great let Susy Froedge just start this. Okay great. So um uh s move on. Uh-huh oh where'd it all go? It's not good. Maria Smith: Oh no. Susy Froedge: Okay lemme just see where I can find it. Susy Froedge: This looks more like it. I think I just opened up the template. Sorry Maria Smith: Oh Susy Froedge: about that. Maria Smith: right. Susy Froedge: Okay alright so let's have a look here. Okay so Maria Smith: Here Susy Froedge: this Maria Smith: we go. Susy Froedge: was the method that um I've taken. Uh basically what I wanna do here, before we get into it uh too far, is I want to show you all the background information I have that I think we need to acknowledge if we want this to be successful. Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: And uh and then sorta g go through some of the way that I've dealt with that information, and then sort of bring us all together into it to see sorta see how this fits in with the overall vision. Um so I've tried to take a whole lot of market research and summarise it for us, and then ide identify uh trends that are are sort of in sync and are important to our our uh p project plan that we have so far, and then uh initiate a kind of discussion on design options so that it sorta helps us to to narrow in on on aspects that will inform other uh other elements of the of the project. Does that make sense, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: tha Eileen Bullard: Yep. Susy Froedge: that sort of strategy? I thought that that will impact on the rest of what we do, so that's why I suggested Maria Smith: Aye a Susy Froedge: we Maria Smith: fair Susy Froedge: get Maria Smith: point Susy Froedge: in this. Maria Smith: definitely. Susy Froedge: Okay so out of um different uh figures and ratings ob uh of people in general, um consumers in general, the number one thing that was found was that uh the br t television remote control, a fancy look and feel, okay, and not, it specified, not a functional look or or feel, Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: uh b f f fancy. Um however, this is where we kinda have to be very, I think, creative about it. Number two was that it be innovative. Okay so that tells Susy Froedge that we have to find a way to be innovative without a adding just unnecessary um sort of functional bits to it. Uh and third priority uh for ease of use, so again that kind of gives us a general picture of how it has to be, um quite user friendly while still having technology. So it I'll just say right away as a bit of a foreshadowing into how we proceed with this in terms of m marketing, is that I think um what we should think about is how the um about how the innovation uh contributes to the look and feel, and not so much to the functionality of it. For example Maria Smith: Aye right. Susy Froedge: like when you pick it up and push it like it all lights up or something, you know what I mean, like, or it's got something else to it Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Susy Froedge: that just seems innovative because obviously the thing that the message here is ease of use. So how do you make innovation make something more more easy to use? Well that's I guess where we're gonna go with this. Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: Okay then there's the other aspect of the back the the market um research I have here is on fashion style, okay, which as we've agreed is a priority. Uh top European fashion trend um that I read about says there's this emerging theme of fruit and vegetables, okay, especially in clothes and furniture. And when I first saw that I thought hmm, well do we want to actually try and think about this trend and how we add something to it, or we get right into it, or we completely steer away from it, do you know what I Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: mean? Maria Smith: okay. Susy Froedge: So my my feeling is that we w do want to observe this trend, but we want to think also about the fact that it sort of has to fit in with something which is not specifically electronics. Um 'cause I think what we're in what we're in is partly sort of home decor, partly something like a computer, um so I think we might wanna be careful about how you know how quickly we create like a remote control in the shape of an apple or something, I think that would be pushing it. And then in terms of m material trends are for things to be soft and spongy and sort of, you might say ergonomic or or friendly to handle, which is which also in indicated that last year this was this was not the case. So um probably a lot of the competition on the market will be still in last year's mode, so if we try and really capitalise on that, I think that'll be in our favour. Um So these this is the summary of everything. market of who we're selling to. Uh innovative design technology's also a must in that it's seen it'd be seen to be uh cutting edge, uh but ease of use t has to be insured throughout. That was like the number three thing. And then at the end there are vibrant natural colours um that's the way I interpreted it anyway, softness in materials, shape, and function, and so I've written at written at the bottom to give us sort of a context of discussion, Mac iPods, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: something which is, I'd have to say very high-tech, ten gigabytes, whatever, but when you hold it in your hand there's like no buttons. You know Maria Smith: Mm Susy Froedge: what a Mac Maria Smith: that's Susy Froedge: iPod Maria Smith: true, Susy Froedge: is? Maria Smith: yeah. Susy Froedge: I'm thinking however Mac iPod is sort of last year's because it's very hard and sort of glassy and glossy, so I'm thinking if we imagine that we're taking some of the features of a Mac iPod and we're then making it s more of like a more of like a comfortable type of or more of like a maybe more vibrant to friendly thing to have. Um and then so this is w with all that information what I'm what I'm suggesting in this slide here is that we we take these ideas, and as we get into more the more um techni like sort of production side of things, that we think about shape, materials, and themes or series that go throughout. Sort of like a I dunno like um we think of some kind of a thin theme that unifies it all, that we agree on, uh sorta like a marketing identity. Um Does that make sense? Yeah. So so like I threw out a few ideas there just to kinda get us thinking along those lines like lemon, lime, I dunno, green colours, pe whatever, it's just an idea, 'cause I'm thinking that some of these ideas will seem quite coherent if we use them in terms of their what people associate this them with in terms of texture, shape, colours, things like that. Maria Smith: Mm 'kay. Great. Susy Froedge: Like um the ones the ones which I'm most fond of in terms of giving like a theme to it would be like um like lemon or something like that, you know something which is, like you see a lot in in other areas. Like I see lots of websites and things that seem to associate with like lemon and lime and Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: So anyway it's just just an idea. Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: I'm thinking maybe we could incorporate some of these features into a fairly um into something which is which seems to have something to it which is almost gimmicky because like um like something to do with like lighting within it. Like you know just within Maria Smith: Ah. Susy Froedge: the simple sense, when you pick up a phone and touch a button it uh lights up, q usually the buttons light up. How can we build on that? Maybe like it could light up in different colours or something or or people could buy the buy the control and then it comes with different like covers or something so. Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: Anyway those are that's all I have, but Maria Smith: That's Susy Froedge: uh Maria Smith: great. Susy Froedge: hopefully we can we can revisit those ideas Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Susy Froedge: when we get into Maria Smith: Okay great. Um thank you for that. Uh Susy Froedge: Yep. Maria Smith: Craig do you wanna uh plug yours in then? Patricia Smith: Is it working? Maria Smith: Mm. Not quite. Susy Froedge: Did you press F_ eight? Eileen Bullard: It's probably not sending. Yeah. Maria Smith: Oh something coming Eileen Bullard: Yep, Maria Smith: now, Eileen Bullard: there Maria Smith: yeah. Eileen Bullard: it is. Maria Smith: There we go. Patricia Smith: And so think of this concept. Um to research it I've um had a look on the the homepage again. It's provided Susy Froedge with more examples of um previously existing c remote controls. Um there's a wee bit of discussion about the other existing ones there, um so I've taken the um suggestions from them and tried to incorporate them into this um So then this we're looking for um suggestions on size th um size of control and the buttons, um the shape of the control, whereabout the buttons should be located on the control. Maria Smith: Mm. Patricia Smith: Um what I found from the research is that most the current controls are just basically big bricks with loads of buttons all over them. Um they're not very attractive to look at, and they're not very comfortable to hold, they're I just hold 'em like big bricks, and they're very easily lost. Um they tend to be very dark colours, so if there are shadowy places down the side of couches you can't really see them. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Patricia Smith: Um the the controls themselves tend to use a very inconsistent colour scheme. Um for instance, the stand-by button isn't always red, uh it really should be. It's uh something the user then uh identify with. This is a red switch off, that's how it should be. Um I'm not sure if there's any other examples of that, but something to look out for. Um there's a problem that I've I've got couple of preferences for the the end control um I get 'em with the the red colour button for stand-by and s the other examples of that um The buttons should be large. They shouldn't be tiny little things like you get on some mobile phones. They should be easy to press, very comfortable. Um one of the examples given on the homepage was um there's an up and down volume button but both of them have a V_ on them, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Patricia Smith: so the up volume button looks like it should be a down volume button, that's kinda confusing. Um should avoid s things like that. Um if the the corporate colour scheme allows it we should have a very bright colour so that it can be easily identified anywhere. Maria Smith: Okay. Patricia Smith: Um obviously trying trying to avoid being tacky there, but it could um tie-in very easily with your Susy Froedge: Yeah. Patricia Smith: your lime Susy Froedge: Okay, Patricia Smith: and lemon idea. Susy Froedge: do we have a corporate colour scheme? I didn't Maria Smith: I Susy Froedge: know. Maria Smith: think it's yellow because like the website is yellow and Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: there's a band at the bottom is yellow, so Eileen Bullard: And the Play-Doh Susy Froedge: Okay. Eileen Bullard: 's yellow. Maria Smith: yellow, lemon, Patricia Smith: Fantastic. Maria Smith: you know definitely food for thought there, Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: but keep going and we'll discuss it Patricia Smith: Um Maria Smith: after. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Patricia Smith: any extra features we add beyond the basic ones should be m hidden, they shouldn't be on the um shouldn't be visible without something be opened or Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Patricia Smith: some sort of special extra effort. Um if we did decide to go for voice activation there sh should always be a button as alternative, possibly hidden in the the opened up section um making that something is wrong with it or with somebody's voice, maybe they got a cold or Um we should definitely avoid the big square block look. That's just wrong. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: Mm 'kay. Patricia Smith: And um we got an email uh from I think it's the the research department, and they've said th the voice control um can now talk back if you ask it a question. Maria Smith: Mm. Patricia Smith: So it sh it could be good to have them um confirm any action you take Maria Smith: Aye Patricia Smith: and Maria Smith: that's a good idea, Patricia Smith: possibility. Maria Smith: yeah. Patricia Smith: Right and these are problems I've had with it. Um I don't know where the slogan should go, or really what the slogan is. I think it's um, fashion into electronics. Maria Smith: Yeah. Patricia Smith: And we don't know how flexible the colour scheme is. I mean you say you wanted the the corporate colours, but they don't say you know if we can use Susy Froedge: Mm. Patricia Smith: any other colours at all or Susy Froedge: Mm. Maria Smith: Okay. Patricia Smith: That's Eileen Bullard: Cool. Patricia Smith: it. Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: Great. Lots of good information there. Maria Smith: Yeah that Eileen Bullard: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: that was very good, and Eileen Bullard: Mm Maria Smith: uh Eileen Bullard: 'kay Maria Smith: now with Eileen Bullard: um. Maria Smith: David. Patricia Smith: I think I'm cool. Susy Froedge: It's a shame the cable wasn't just in the middle Maria Smith: I know Susy Froedge: of the table, Maria Smith: it'd be handy, Susy Froedge: huh? Maria Smith: wouldn't it. Susy Froedge: Just um Eileen Bullard: Oops. Maria Smith: Do y do you wanna sit in the the line of sight of this Eileen Bullard: Yeah Maria Smith: um Eileen Bullard: okay. Let Susy Froedge just get this Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: going first. Ah there it is. Susy Froedge: It takes a second, doesn't it? Eileen Bullard: 'Kay, that should it. Okay um I guess the same thing again, I started with something very basic. So just so you guys have some idea of what's involved in my process, Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: um and then you can just work through it and we 'll either modify it or start from scratch um depending on what your needs are. Um the components are exactly the same. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Um I think, like what you guys said, um the most input that's needed is basically in the user interface. The rest of the components um they do have an impact in terms of cost and complexity. Um like you said time to market was a problem, um and how many components are physically in there in cost. And the power is basically a factor of that. Um and the lower components, the power, the logic, the transmitter, and the infrared, um they affect you in terms of the size of your device, um and that would have some inte impact on how y I think more how you hold rather than um the actual use using the the remote control because um like we've said we've defined, like we only want the basic things that to be visible, and the rest of them we try to hide. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: So um you know it's just a matter of working out space. So I guess three things, um cost, um complexity, and the size. These are the three things that um will have an impact on you. So just go through it in the components. Um these are the options that are available to you, um I'm not very sure about the voice thing 'cause I got another email and it was in fact quite sketchy on what n the voice options are. Patricia Smith: Right. Eileen Bullard: Um it said it could talk to you, but it never said anything about being able to listen. I it said something about a sensor but never clarified that. Susy Froedge: Mm. Maria Smith: Hmm. Eileen Bullard: So maybe if you well I could see the other email that they sent you, um 'cause they got back to Susy Froedge with like different requirements, or different offerings of what components availa Okay so Patricia Smith: Right. Eileen Bullard: your basic components are buttons, Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: okay and you have a wheel available, like a mouse scroll wheel, Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: okay there's an L_C_D_ display, um I think these are quite standard things. Susy Froedge: They're standard, aren't they? Eileen Bullard: No um they're well in the sense that these are all the options available for you. I'll explain to you the complexity and the cost thing again a bit Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: later. Okay um then there's um how the case actually looks. It can actually be flat or it can be curved, um and then the different types of materials that you can use, um I don't think you can use them in a combination, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: um but um I could check back for you, but I don't think you can actually use them in a combination. Maria Smith: We you couldn't have like plastic and rubber? Eileen Bullard: Um I think plastic and rubber would be fine, but plastic, rubber, and wood, I wasn't I'm not very sure about the titanium. Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: They had some restrictions Susy Froedge: Hmm. Eileen Bullard: on using the rubber and the titanium. Maria Smith: Mm Eileen Bullard: Um Maria Smith: 'kay. Eileen Bullard: the rubber was a restriction on the kind of power source you could use, but the titanium had a different kind of things on the shape of the Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: thing, so I think that there is some restriction on um I think you could probably group plastic and rubber together, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: wood and titanium, but you know it might be easier from a cost perspective and a Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: complexity just to use one. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: You know as opposed to two. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Um and the other components are logic chips, um again I'll I'll go back to the component chips. The com how complex or how easy the logic is, it depends on how many functions you have on the on the unit um and that impacts cost. Um Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: I don't think the logic chip has a issue about size 'cause they Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: should be about the same size. Power consumption should be about the same. Um Susy Froedge: Hmm. Eileen Bullard: I think the main impact is complexity, um and the other thing is um the power options. Um the first one is a standard battery. Okay the second one I think is more of a gimmick then actually a useable thing, it's a wind-up Maria Smith: I'll clear Eileen Bullard: you know, Maria Smith: one of these Eileen Bullard: a Maria Smith: things Eileen Bullard: crank. Maria Smith: for you. Just Susy Froedge: Hmm. Maria Smith: by moving Eileen Bullard: Yeah Maria Smith: it yeah. Eileen Bullard: but that that might be something I think that's more of a look and feel decision because I don't think you can have one power source if you're using the alternative power sources. I think whatever it is you still need a battery 'cause Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: I don't think anybody wants to keep doing one thing. Susy Froedge: No. Eileen Bullard: Okay the other ones Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: are a solar powered cell, which may not be a great idea in Europe or any country that has seasons 'cause half the year you'd be dead. a battery Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: and something else. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Um and the kinetic one I guess for Susy Froedge is the most interesting one because it's movement and people like to fiddle with their Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: and it's a nice sales gimmick I think. From a marketing Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: gimmick it it's a technology thing, it's a shake it it doesn't work, shake it, knock it or something. You know Maria Smith: W Susy Froedge: Hmm. Maria Smith: yeah. Eileen Bullard: you know you Maria Smith: Uh Eileen Bullard: have you had Maria Smith: yeah Eileen Bullard: those Maria Smith: yeah, Eileen Bullard: balls, Maria Smith: I see. Eileen Bullard: you know those Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: stress balls where you bounce the ball and it and it lights up and it goes, you know that might be a gimmick combined with rubber. Susy Froedge: Hmm. Eileen Bullard: You know just to Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: if you get frustrated wi remote control you can throw it, kind of you know just uh Susy Froedge: Hmm. Maria Smith: I know what you mean yeah. Eileen Bullard: you know um so. Um okay my from my role, I don't think that personal preferences but role preferences, I think um something comfortable to hold, Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: um small and slim I guess that's more in the sense of small and slim in terms of comfortable not so small you can't, you know like a phone Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: or something, too small phone. Um and the other thing is from a production point of view um the less components we use and the simpler the components means you reduce your cost and you increase your profit. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Um and also the time to market and the complexity of developing Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm Eileen Bullard: designing Susy Froedge: mm-hmm Eileen Bullard: and debugging Susy Froedge: mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: it um so. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Um okay let Susy Froedge just go back and talk about some of the restrictions. Um The user interface restrictions basically means that if you use more complicated features, like the buttons are standard okay, the L_C_D_ panel and the scroll wheel you need more complicated logic. Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: Um the case okay with a rubber case you can't have the solar panels. Okay with the titanium case, let Susy Froedge just check that um, titanium case can't be curved, it has to be square. Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: Okay um there's no restriction on the plastic, Susy Froedge: It can't Eileen Bullard: and Susy Froedge: be curved. Eileen Bullard: it can't be curved Susy Froedge: Okay. Eileen Bullard: on the wood. So that's again, I don't think you can use them in a combination, Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: um especially the titanium I I suspect they're Maria Smith: Right. Eileen Bullard: very fixed to a particular need. So um mixing them may not be a good idea Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: um yep. Maria Smith: Right Eileen Bullard: That's Susy Froedge: Uh Eileen Bullard: it. Susy Froedge: question Maria Smith: can Susy Froedge: on Maria Smith: I Susy Froedge: can I ask a question? Maria Smith: Yeah well yeah it's just I'm quite keen to get the discussion going with the time we've left so Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: but yeah you c ask Susy Froedge: Can Maria Smith: away. Susy Froedge: we uh power a light in this? Can we get a strong enough battery to power a light? Eileen Bullard: Um I think we could because the L_C_D_ panel requires power, and the L_C_D_ is a form of a light Maria Smith: Mm. Susy Froedge: Okay. Eileen Bullard: so that Susy Froedge: So maybe one of the things we can just try and include is a really good battery. Maria Smith: Why what kind of light do you want are you thinking Susy Froedge: Well Maria Smith: of? Susy Froedge: I mean I'm thinking it might be That for uh this to be a high-tech thing it's Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Susy Froedge: gonna have to have something high-tech about it Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: and that's gonna take battery power, and to make that to make that a realistic goal I think one of the issues that will come up later is, Eileen Bullard: Are Susy Froedge: can Eileen Bullard: you Susy Froedge: the Eileen Bullard: thinking Susy Froedge: battery power Eileen Bullard: are you Susy Froedge: it? Eileen Bullard: thinking of of a light in the sense of um a light light, or a light in the sense of Susy Froedge: Illuminate Eileen Bullard: it glows Susy Froedge: the buttons. Eileen Bullard: kind of Susy Froedge: Yeah Eileen Bullard: you Susy Froedge: it Eileen Bullard: know Susy Froedge: glows. Eileen Bullard: Frankenstein, it's alive. Susy Froedge: Well m I'm thinking along the lines of you're you're in the dark watching a D_V_D_ Eileen Bullard: Okay. Susy Froedge: and you um you find the thing in the dark and you go like this, and that's what everybody does. Oh where's the volume button in the dark, Maria Smith: Yeah yeah yeah. Eileen Bullard: Okay. Susy Froedge: and uh y you just touch it, or you just pick it up, and it lights up or something. Maria Smith: Like a phone Eileen Bullard: Okay. Susy Froedge: Like Maria Smith: yeah, Susy Froedge: a phone, Maria Smith: like Susy Froedge: yeah Maria Smith: the backlight Susy Froedge: yeah. Maria Smith: in a phone. Okay cool. Susy Froedge: Whereas with phones, people charge them once a week. Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: We're gonna need to put in a really good battery so people don't have to charge their r remote control every few days. Eileen Bullard: Um that's why I think the option of the the kinetic thing which basically means as long as you shake it like a watch, like an automatic Susy Froedge: But are people gonna Eileen Bullard: watch Maria Smith: Mm. Susy Froedge: wanna shake their movie controller? Eileen Bullard: um it's probably sensitive enough when you fiddle it. Susy Froedge: Right. Eileen Bullard: So Susy Froedge: Sure. Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: you could trigger that to a light, like I said the bouncing ball thing, or you Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: could trigger that to use that to power Susy Froedge: Okay. Eileen Bullard: the light as opposed to Susy Froedge: Right. Eileen Bullard: so when they pick it up, right, and then Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: that that sorta triggers Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: the Maria Smith: Right Eileen Bullard: glowingness. Maria Smith: okay Susy Froedge: Okay, Maria Smith: um Susy Froedge: great. Maria Smith: well let's just go right back to the marketing ideas for a start, and just giving an Eileen Bullard idea on the time, we've got about fifteen minutes to play with at most. Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: So um yeah so just t to bear in mind that the ultimate goal of this meeting is to reach an decision on the the the concepts of the product. So Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: back to your idea about um incorporating the idea of like fruit and veg, and Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: the corporate colour, and things like that. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: Um I mean what does everybody think about Does anybody have any ideas of about how we can fit all that in together? I mean that's kind of the user interface type of thing, what are your thoughts on that? Patricia Smith: Um I think we could go for like um maybe not a p a fruit shape but a very sort of curvy type shape. Um you could have the same sort of texture and colour as a fruit. Maria Smith: So maybe do y are we thinking something that like s could sit in your hand comfortably, or do you th you'd hold onto comfortably or Patricia Smith: Um probably something that s sits in your hand comfortably, sort of Maria Smith: So Patricia Smith: feels Maria Smith: something Patricia Smith: right in Maria Smith: quite Patricia Smith: your hand. Maria Smith: curvy? Okay um right okay. Colour-wise I mean you made a re uh was it you or uh I can't remember who made the point about how if you've a nice bright colour you'll not lose it, was that Whose Eileen Bullard: I think Susy Froedge: What's Eileen Bullard: he Susy Froedge: that? Eileen Bullard: made that. Maria Smith: about how if you have a bright colour you'll not lose it so much. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: Um and when the corporate colour is yellow, I mean maybe we could think about about the colour of the whole product being Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: yellow I don't know. Um And then obviously the uh the materials when it Susy Froedge: Well Maria Smith: That's all. Susy Froedge: I mean I'm thinking that what we need to do is have something that kind of unifies a lot of the different concepts, and Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: if we think that what we are w our number one marketing motive is um the look and feel. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: So for the look and feel to seem coherent and not just sorta bits and bits and pieces of of concept and technology or or whatever or fashion, then we should have it kind of come back to one thing that we kind of all sorta can visualize. Um maybe what we could do is t th think about a concept which touches b back to the on the um the colour, you said Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: company colour yellow. I mean if we think of something, like I was saying also lime Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: and lemon you know, what can we come up with something where we we try and associate it with with like the series. We just come up with something like that we kind of use it as a theme to inspire the Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: shapes and things. Maria Smith: Right. Eileen Bullard: Is there a particular shape that you're interested in? Like does marketing have any research on does it need to be long? Does it need with Maria Smith: Oh Eileen Bullard: a square Maria Smith: you know like Eileen Bullard: thing Maria Smith: in circular Eileen Bullard: wha Maria Smith: in shape or Eileen Bullard: Yeah 'cause that will n help narrow down the choice of Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: Choice of material Eileen Bullard: Like fruit. Maria Smith: yeah. 'Cause Eileen Bullard: I'm Patricia Smith: See Eileen Bullard: thinking Maria Smith: I I Patricia Smith: I'm Eileen Bullard: fruits Maria Smith: I Eileen Bullard: in Maria Smith: was Eileen Bullard: my head, Maria Smith: kinda Eileen Bullard: but that's Maria Smith: thinking Eileen Bullard: tacky. Maria Smith: about as well you know how you get these shock resistant mobile phones, and they're plastic but then also have like rubber on the outside, and it kinda feels it feels kind of warmer to the touch. It feels Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: a bit more comfortable, and maybe we could incorporate plastic and rubber into it. And then then we could have curved shapes, 'cause wood or titanium, yeah, it's gonna have to be boxy and rectangular and I think we might be moving away from that you know so um Well I'm do we really want it in like the shape of a lemon or Susy Froedge: No no no Maria Smith: no I don't think we do either. Susy Froedge: not at all. It's more more just that we we think about like what it is we're trying to achieve, so and then we have one one sorta theme that we stick with. Do you Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: know what I mean? Maria Smith: right well um so thoughts about the actual shape of the thing. Patricia Smith: I'd quite like a sort of uh snowman type shape. Maria Smith: A snowman shape? Patricia Smith: Um so a p sort of larger bit sits in your hand, Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Patricia Smith: and then you got maybe another bubble at the top for just any other function you need. Maria Smith: That's quite Susy Froedge: Right, Maria Smith: a distinctive shape, that Susy Froedge: sure. Maria Smith: would be good wouldn't it. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: Yeah so yeah should we go with that? Susy Froedge: Um can we yeah like to and wha like do you have a Maria Smith: Do you wanna draw Susy Froedge: Can you Maria Smith: it on Susy Froedge: like Maria Smith: the board? Susy Froedge: yeah just t we can visualize it. Patricia Smith: Um something like that um you got two groups there um maybe it could fold up and you get a third group inside Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: Ooh Patricia Smith: or Maria Smith: that'd be good. Patricia Smith: uh you have volume controls about there. Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: Yep. Maria Smith: So call it the snowman-shape trademark. Yeah that's cool. Um and I mean colour-wise what does everybody think? I think it is quite important to get yellow in there somewhere. I mean do you want the whole thing yellow, maybe like yellow and white do you want Susy Froedge: Mm. Maria Smith: something Patricia Smith: So I reckon it'd look quite nice if we just had um this here, had a sorta background yellow, Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Patricia Smith: and then have sort of a nice bold colour for the buttons. Maria Smith: Okay cool. Um and also I mean how are we going to incorporate the slogan in? The fact that it talks to you, I mean it might be quite cool if when you first start using it it says, what is it, putting fashion into electronics or something, I dunno. Or when you like or if you turn it off or something if Patricia Smith: I think Maria Smith: it Patricia Smith: that Maria Smith: can Patricia Smith: might Maria Smith: speak Patricia Smith: scare Susy Froedge. Maria Smith: if it could actually say the slogan it might be a bit more powerful than just having it written on it somewhere. I d I d any thoughts on that at all? Patricia Smith: I think that'd probably scare Susy Froedge. You turn it on your control possessed s. Maria Smith: I know. Um unless an a I mean if you also would that work if we wanted to incorporate um an L_C_D_ display, where would we put that? Would we put that on the inside or Patricia Smith: Um Eileen Bullard: Do we need an L_C_D_ display? What what's the functionality Maria Smith: It's Eileen Bullard: of Maria Smith: bound Eileen Bullard: that? Maria Smith: to increase the cost of it a lot, I Eileen Bullard: Yeah but the Maria Smith: would've Eileen Bullard: question Maria Smith: thought. Eileen Bullard: is what Susy Froedge: What would Eileen Bullard: are Susy Froedge: it Eileen Bullard: we Susy Froedge: achieve? Eileen Bullard: using it what would we what would we achieve from it? Putting Susy Froedge: Well Eileen Bullard: in lights is cheap but putting in an L_C_D_ panel Susy Froedge: L_C_ Eileen Bullard: just Susy Froedge: well Eileen Bullard: to make it glow is Susy Froedge: I'd Eileen Bullard: a bit Susy Froedge: when Eileen Bullard: of Susy Froedge: you used Eileen Bullard: a Susy Froedge: to mention the L_C_D_ I'd think I wonder what that would be about. And the th the thing I could see it helping with would be if it was somehow connected with um listings. So as Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: you scroll through, 'cause we said we might have a jog dial, so Eileen Bullard: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: as you scroll through your stations you can y it actually tells you what it is. Eileen Bullard: I think that will be a problem because we don't have an input device to get the listings into Susy Froedge: Right, Eileen Bullard: it, Susy Froedge: okay. Eileen Bullard: so Maria Smith: Mm Eileen Bullard: um Maria Smith: oh Eileen Bullard: it's Maria Smith: yeah Eileen Bullard: a bit Maria Smith: that's Eileen Bullard: nuts Maria Smith: true. Eileen Bullard: to get the Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: Monday Tuesday Maria Smith: So Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: Wednesday Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: so Eileen Bullard: you Maria Smith: no Eileen Bullard: know. Maria Smith: need for an L_C_D_ display? Eileen Bullard: Um I I'm not saying there's no need for an L_C_D_ display, but um Maria Smith: I think that would Eileen Bullard: it's Maria Smith: make it very Eileen Bullard: what's Maria Smith: complex. Eileen Bullard: what what would it tell the user, 'cause the L_C_D_ tends to be an output as Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: uh as opposed to an input so Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: um does the remote control need to talk back to the Susy Froedge: Mm Eileen Bullard: user? Susy Froedge: not real Eileen Bullard: We have the option of the speaker as well the sa the same thing goes for the speaker, is there a need for the remote control to Maria Smith: I Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: don't know if there is Eileen Bullard: to Maria Smith: really, Eileen Bullard: talk back? Patricia Smith: Nah. Maria Smith: no um Eileen Bullard: Um Maria Smith: I would say no need for a talk-back. Uh does anybody disagree with that? Susy Froedge: No. Eileen Bullard: You could Maria Smith: No? Eileen Bullard: put a game on it. Maria Smith: Easy. Eileen Bullard: When the T_V_ dies you can play with the remote control. Susy Froedge: Mm Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: mm. Maria Smith: um right so you're gonna have the three different sets of of functionalities, um I mean do you wanna group them into s head of the snowman, body of the snowman, inside of the snowman, is that what you're thinking? Patricia Smith: Um well I think the advanced ones the the ones you don't usually use could be hid inside. Maria Smith: Okay. Patricia Smith: B um I think the we had were fairly basic ones, they'd have to go on the the front somewhere. Maria Smith: Okay right um what else do you need to talk about? Susy Froedge: Well i Eileen Bullard: Where Susy Froedge: I was Eileen Bullard: would Susy Froedge: just Eileen Bullard: you physically position the buttons? Um I think that that has some impact on Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: on on many things. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Patricia Smith: Um Eileen Bullard: Um maybe you wanna draw onto the Maria Smith: So I'm just gonna um pop this in here 'cause I have a slide about decision making Eileen Bullard: Yep. Maria Smith: which I'd forgotten about. Maria Smith: Oh sh God we've got five minutes um okay uh back we go. Um energy what do you think that's suggesting we're how we're powering the thing? I really like the idea of this kinetic thing where you'd have the back-up of the battery, Susy Froedge: Yeah, Maria Smith: but have Susy Froedge: sure. Maria Smith: have kinetic power, Susy Froedge: Um Maria Smith: I mean what does Susy Froedge: I've Maria Smith: anybody Susy Froedge: had Maria Smith: think Susy Froedge: kinetic Maria Smith: about that? Susy Froedge: things before, and the the the one issue we need to keep in mind with them is that you're committing the user to moving it, and Eileen Bullard: No, like I said we Susy Froedge: watches Eileen Bullard: have a h Susy Froedge: yeah Eileen Bullard: hybrid kind of thing, Susy Froedge: Sure, Eileen Bullard: so it's not gonna Susy Froedge: okay, Eileen Bullard: charge the battery, Susy Froedge: right, okay. Eileen Bullard: it's just Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: Support for it. I mean Eileen Bullard: Yeah. Susy Froedge: just it's just worth pointing out because like I've I've known I've known people to have kinetic watches that they wear all the time, Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: and it's just like magic because it's always powered and there's no battery. I've also known people to have things like like a jewellery watch they wear from time to time, and they eventually just say it's just too much of a nuisance because Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: I don't wear Eileen Bullard: Yep. Susy Froedge: it all the time. Like remote control is similar, you're away on vacation, I dunno whatever, you something, Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: and it just starts to get worn down. So Maria Smith: Well Susy Froedge: we should Maria Smith: I suppose that if Susy Froedge: think Maria Smith: you're Susy Froedge: about Maria Smith: if you're away and you're not using it, then you're not using any power either. So you'd have the battery as the kind of to keep it ticking over Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: idea I'm really sorry we're gonna have to wrap up quite quickly, we don't have as much time as I thought. Susy Froedge: Yep. Maria Smith: Um so I think that's what energy is referring to here. Chip on print, is that that's an industrial design thing, is it David? Eileen Bullard: Yes yes. Maria Smith: Okay um as for the case, kind of discussed that Susy Froedge: And this size here, I'd suggest this be small, Maria Smith: Yeah I Susy Froedge: like Maria Smith: know we're gonna Susy Froedge: quite Maria Smith: have like Susy Froedge: small. Maria Smith: rubber buttons that feel kind of Patricia Smith: Yeah Maria Smith: Okay. Patricia Smith: I think so yeah. Susy Froedge: Um just a a lot of the um I mean one of the things running through my mind right now, I realise we're being efficient to wrap up the meeting Maria Smith: Mm-hmm. Susy Froedge: and have lots of decisions made, um but we are leaning quite a bit to the side of being low-tech, rubber buttons plastic frame, it's almost like we're reproducing the same old remote control Maria Smith: Mm 'kay. Susy Froedge: that's out there. Should we think about how we are actually getting this high-tech user friendly uh um theme like what is it that we're u we're using to to achieve those goals? Like Maria Smith: Could have things like backlighting the buttons and Susy Froedge: Okay Maria Smith: stuff like Susy Froedge: so Maria Smith: that. Susy Froedge: so backlighting, Eileen Bullard: Or even Susy Froedge: that Eileen Bullard: a Susy Froedge: would Eileen Bullard: clear Susy Froedge: be good. Eileen Bullard: case. Um Susy Froedge: Yeah clear, that'd be Eileen Bullard: you Maria Smith: Aye Eileen Bullard: know a Maria Smith: that Eileen Bullard: a Maria Smith: would be Eileen Bullard: glowing Maria Smith: a Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: good idea. Eileen Bullard: a a glowing yellow type case where the yellow is showable, but in the dark it sort of, it's alive. Susy Froedge: Yeah sure. Eileen Bullard: Um in Maria Smith: S Eileen Bullard: in a Maria Smith: so Eileen Bullard: slight Maria Smith: like Eileen Bullard: subtle Susy Froedge: Yeah that'd Eileen Bullard: way. Susy Froedge: be really Maria Smith: cur Susy Froedge: good. Maria Smith: slightly transparent Eileen Bullard: Yeah Maria Smith: case, so Eileen Bullard: yeah. Maria Smith: it's yellow, Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: like tinted yellow, but Eileen Bullard: Yeah. Maria Smith: you can maybe see through it. Is that what Eileen Bullard: Or Maria Smith: you mean? Eileen Bullard: or there might be a light running through it like a mouse. Susy Froedge: Sure. Eileen Bullard: You know you have cordless mice and they don't eat that much power Susy Froedge: Yeah, Eileen Bullard: right. So the power the Susy Froedge: yeah. Eileen Bullard: battery in that sense, maybe Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: you have one or two stratig strategically placed lights Susy Froedge: Sure. Eileen Bullard: that sort of Susy Froedge: Yeah they they emanate a light through it. Eileen Bullard: Yeah Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: but because the case is transparent Maria Smith: Lights. Eileen Bullard: so it Susy Froedge: 'Kay. Eileen Bullard: gives it a little bit of a glow, Susy Froedge: Yeah, mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: doesn't Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: make it freaky. Susy Froedge: Um and then the other thing that we we're s we've committed ourselves to achieving is simplicity, and so I'm thinking maybe should we try and think about having something like um some kind of an innovative concept about how the um the volume and the channels are controlled, 'cause that's the main thing people will f wanna Maria Smith: Mm. Susy Froedge: do. Could we use like a jog dial, like a nice just sort of round, somewhere on it where you just Eileen Bullard: The question Susy Froedge: roll Eileen Bullard: is Susy Froedge: it? Eileen Bullard: when you're rolling Susy Froedge: Or Eileen Bullard: it, how do you wanna roll it? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? Do you want 'em to roll it like that? 'Cause in a mouse your hand's in a position Patricia Smith: Mm. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: to roll it, whereas the other thing about having it jog dial this way, it tends to get moved accidentally. Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Maria Smith: Yeah Susy Froedge: Well Maria Smith: if Susy Froedge: why Maria Smith: you Susy Froedge: don't we Maria Smith: are Susy Froedge: do Maria Smith: holding Susy Froedge: it like Maria Smith: it Susy Froedge: a Maria Smith: in your Susy Froedge: mouse Maria Smith: hand Susy Froedge: then? Maria Smith: you could you could do that, couldn't you? If you're holding it in your hand Eileen Bullard: That's Maria Smith: you could Eileen Bullard: a very unnatural motion Maria Smith: Do you think? Eileen Bullard: to yeah. Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: Can you imagine you have to scroll a lot. Um it might work for volume, Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: and maybe some of the brightness controls and stuff like that, Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: but not for channels right. If you have a Telewest box you've got like, you Susy Froedge: Mm-hmm. Eileen Bullard: don't have to buy all the channels, you've about fifty channels, can you imagine Maria Smith: Yeah Eileen Bullard: trying Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: to. Maria Smith: okay okay Susy Froedge: Yeah, Eileen Bullard: Um Susy Froedge: sure. Maria Smith: um Eileen Bullard: and I don't think having that you know too quick too Susy Froedge: Mm. Eileen Bullard: slow kin Patricia Smith: Well, Eileen Bullard: it's confusing Patricia Smith: but Eileen Bullard: to the Patricia Smith: then Eileen Bullard: I dunno. Patricia Smith: for um for skipping a large amount of channels you do have to uh to skip the channel button, the Maria Smith: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: But Patricia Smith: number Eileen Bullard: users Patricia Smith: part. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: tend to tend to want to use that and once they lose out on the user experience they're like Maria Smith: Okay. Patricia Smith: Uh but Eileen Bullard: Because that's becomes the most accessible Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: thing Susy Froedge: But that's Eileen Bullard: in front Susy Froedge: not a bad Eileen Bullard: of Susy Froedge: thing is it? Maria Smith: Just Susy Froedge: Because when you think about it, the alternative is to go push Patricia Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: the button. Eileen Bullard: Yeah. Susy Froedge: Jog dials are much easier than that. Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: You Maria Smith: um Susy Froedge: just roll. Maria Smith: right well wouldn't it we do need to make a decision on whether we want to incorporate a jog dial in nice and quickly. Um I'm all for them actually, I think they're quite you Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: know th very quick to m to use. Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: So does anybody oppose the idea of of incorporating one into the design at all? No. And the other thing was um can we think of any way of getting the slogan into this thing? Susy Froedge: Yeah like I mean if we if if we keep coming back to this board here, Maria Smith: Uh-huh. Susy Froedge: I wouldn't be surprised if we could take this idea, imagine that, I dunno, that it's within the shape of the hand, it's quite small Maria Smith: Uh-huh ooh okay, Susy Froedge: I dunno. Maria Smith: we really gotta wrap up so Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: yeah. Susy Froedge: It's small, and that we've got like the the l slogan somewhere like on the casing Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: at the side, Maria Smith: well if we can do Susy Froedge: and that Maria Smith: that, great. Susy Froedge: yeah Maria Smith: Yeah okay. Susy Froedge: well I mean isn't that what we just h said said we s just have to decide now? Maria Smith: Yeah let's let's try and get the slogan on there Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: um, and Susy Froedge: And then Eileen Bullard: So Susy Froedge: like Eileen Bullard: you Susy Froedge: a Eileen Bullard: wanna Susy Froedge: jo Eileen Bullard: expand the shape of the Susy Froedge: And then like a jog dial somewhere that fits in with the shape of it like I dunno like here, in with Eileen Bullard: That Susy Froedge: the Eileen Bullard: that might have one problem in terms of um Susy Froedge: It would get bumped, it's doesn't Eileen Bullard: in terms Susy Froedge: really fit Eileen Bullard: of Susy Froedge: with your Eileen Bullard: whether Susy Froedge: hand. Eileen Bullard: you're left handed or you're right handed Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: you Maria Smith: Mm. Eileen Bullard: might be locking yourself in. Susy Froedge: Or maybe Patricia Smith: Mm. Susy Froedge: just fit Eileen Bullard: Could Susy Froedge: it Eileen Bullard: I just Susy Froedge: in like down the middle Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: here. Eileen Bullard: could I just jump in and suggest something Maria Smith: Right Susy Froedge: A Eileen Bullard: quickly? Maria Smith: I'm Susy Froedge: jog Maria Smith: gonna have Susy Froedge: di Maria Smith: to I'm really gonna have to hurry you on here 'cause we're we're Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: actually over time. Susy Froedge: It's kind Maria Smith: Um Susy Froedge: of Maria Smith: is there anything Susy Froedge: yeah Maria Smith: anybody's unsure about? Just for in closing just the next meeting's gonna be in thirty minutes, and so you can see in the screen here what each of you are gonna hopefully be doing, Susy Froedge: Yeah. Maria Smith: uh I know that the designers are gonna be working with Play-doh on that. So um that'll Susy Froedge: Huh. Maria Smith: be that'll be good. Um and I'll get the the minutes up as soon as possible. Anything at all you think we haven't discussed that we need to? Is everybody Susy Froedge: Um Maria Smith: kind of happy about Eileen Bullard: Um Maria Smith: what they're gonna be doing? Eileen Bullard: I think one thing would be the jog dial 'cause that's gonna have quite a big impact on Susy Froedge: Yeah I think Eileen Bullard: the thing Susy Froedge: the jog Eileen Bullard: um Susy Froedge: dial, you know it just after you drew that, what if it was flat and you just Eileen Bullard: Yeah Susy Froedge: spun Eileen Bullard: that's what Susy Froedge: it, Eileen Bullard: I was thinking Susy Froedge: that'd be great. Eileen Bullard: the a slide, because Susy Froedge: Yeah. Eileen Bullard: then you you don't have to put the hand. Susy Froedge: Yep. Eileen Bullard: I think incorporating a logo is quite straight forward. There's Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: lots of space for it um Maria Smith: That's kind of a design thing that you guys can Eileen Bullard: Yeah Maria Smith: can discuss, Eileen Bullard: but it's Maria Smith: yeah. Susy Froedge: Sure, Eileen Bullard: also a a marketing Susy Froedge: yeah, Eileen Bullard: and a function Susy Froedge: yeah Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: and materials we sorta said we'd do plastic and rubber, didn't Eileen Bullard: Yeah. Susy Froedge: we, Maria Smith: Yeah. Susy Froedge: and I think maybe we should try and stay away from just the big protruding rubber buttons, 'cause that'd just be so standard. Maria Smith: To make something flush with the case? Susy Froedge: Something a bit more flush, yeah, Maria Smith: Okay right. Susy Froedge: or maybe have rubber incorporated into the case as well, so Maria Smith: Okay. Susy Froedge: that it has and also t plastic Maria Smith: Sp kinda Susy Froedge: I've Maria Smith: grippy? Susy Froedge: seen can get really textured, so you can get plastics that actually feel soft in your hand. Eileen Bullard: Feel like fruit. Maria Smith: Okay. Eileen Bullard: Fruits kids. Susy Froedge: They feel kind of like um, you get pens Eileen Bullard: No like Susy Froedge: now and then that you'd think that Eileen Bullard: Yeah Susy Froedge: they were Eileen Bullard: yeah. Susy Froedge: rubber but they're not, they're actually just plastic that's textured, kind Eileen Bullard: Yeah Susy Froedge: of a Eileen Bullard: yeah Susy Froedge: little Eileen Bullard: kinda Susy Froedge: bit Maria Smith: Okay Susy Froedge: like Eileen Bullard: like that yeah. Maria Smith: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to call this to a close 'cause we're way over time. So um that's really good, like we've s had much to talk about that um pretty much run Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: out of time to do so. So off Susy Froedge: Okay. Maria Smith: you go and design stuff wooh. Eileen Bullard: Play-doh time. Maria Smith: Yeah quite jealous actually. Eileen Bullard: You got to choose first. No, we're kidding. Okay, can I just swipe your power cable, I don't think it matters. Okay lemme okay, I'm gonna pull everybody out first and then put in whoever needs to be left. It's you. Eileen Bullard: Argh. This is a real hassle and a oops. I'm gonna take the microphones, 'cause it's too lazy t take them off again. Cool.

Maria Smith recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Susy Froedge discussed his findings from trend watching reports, stressing the need for a product that has a fancy look and feel, is technologically innovative, is easy to use, and incorporates some aspect of fruit and vegetables in its design. The interface specialist presented research on the appearance of current remotes, concluding that current remotes are generally unappealing in terms of look and usability. The interface specialist presented ideas on how to remedy the unappealing aspects of current remotes in the team's design and also how to incorporate the corporate color scheme into the design. Eileen Bullard presented options for materials, components, and batteries and discussed the restrictions involved in using certain materials. The team then discussed options for the shape and color scheme of the remote, as well as what components, batteries, and materials to use.

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Crystal Cheeks: Just put it on the deskt desktop. Michelle Berger: No on the desktop you'll find you should that there's a project documents link. A well actually just there. Crystal Cheeks: Project documents, yeah. Michelle Berger: Yeah. That's it. If you dump it in there. Crystal Cheeks: What's your username? Michelle Berger: Your username. Crystal Cheeks: What's your username and password? Mm-hmm. Sorry. Okay. Michelle Berger: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: There we go. Michelle Berger: Excellent. Right. Hopefully that's us ready to uh to go. So. Functional design meeting. We'll have to flesh out some of the uh stuff. Um we'll start with the minutes of the last meeting. Not a lot thankfully to say. We introduced ourselves, the of a macro facility, interacting the T_V_ a bit more, um mentioning of bar-code, joystick for user manipulation, um and ergonomics of the remote control as well. Um it's come to my attention the following. Teletext has become outdated due to the populat popularity of the internet. Remote control should only be used for the T_V_. Um due for uh time to market and possibly also cost issues. Um also key is the corporate image should stay recognisable, um f uh your colour and slogan of course is down at the bottom there. Um. Now. Just to say quickly uh I would have thought that only being used for a television the macro facility may now not be required. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: Um or at l its functionality would have been of limited use. So to the point in my opinion anyway that it might not be worth pursuing. Um if anybody disagrees we can uh definitely say so. Um and hopefully we'll just crack on and we'll get everything going. Um I'd like to if possible hear from our Marketing Expert first, Crystal Cheeks: 'Kay. Michelle Berger: to help us gain an idea of where we're going to go. So um I'll just load up your presentation from here if you want. Crystal Cheeks: Sure. Um, sh would you like to I'll just do it from here. Michelle Berger: Yep. Sorry. Uh. Is yours the Crystal Cheeks: Um, try second one maybe. Try it, yeah maybe. Michelle Berger: Oh sorry. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Okay. Michelle Berger: Okay, right. Crystal Cheeks: Oh, I thought I put in my last name, I guess not, but. Michelle Berger: Uh if you that's all right. Crystal Cheeks: Okay. Michelle Berger: If you do you want Crystal Cheeks to just cycle through it for you or? Crystal Cheeks: Oh yeah, that'd be, that'd Michelle Berger: Yeah? Crystal Cheeks: great. Okay. Functional requirement by Crystal Cheeks Ebenezer. Michelle Berger: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: Okay, so um we did some research, we asked one hundred people their opinions on remote controls. We asked some uh open ended questions, just, what are your opinions on the remote control, got a lot of re responses, and we asked some very specific questions, and we got a lot of good feedback. Please bear in mind this is only a hundred people, so even when the groups are divided into fifteen to twenty five, twenty five to thirty five, there's only maybe ten people fifteen people in each group. Okay. Michelle Berger: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: So we got some the bad stuff we got, remotes are often lost. I often lose my remote control, the back of the couch, some place, and even if it's not lost permanently, it takes Crystal Cheeks a few minutes to find it. Most buttons are not used any more, like you said, teletext is outdated now. I remember trying to load a D_V_D_ player recently, and there were so many buttons, it took Crystal Cheeks I don't know maybe ten minutes to to go through each button, 'cause you have to press the shift button to access the yellow buttons, you know there's just a lot of stuff that no one really uses. And if they do, not very often. Takes too long to master the remote control. I've seen some remote controls that are big, they have a lot of buttons, you have to hold down more than one key at one time to do something, they're just not great to use. We just got a lot of bad complaints about remote controls, people do not like remote controls. Some of the good stuff we got. Between the age of uh fifteen and twenty five, most people would be willing to pay extra for voice recognition software. Now don't get excited yet, I've got more to say on that. Most people'd be willing to pay for that um most people want remote controls to be pretty, they want it to be fancy, th they they want it to be different, everybody has a white remote control with black buttons, and a red button and a green button, not everybody wants that. Finally, my opinion. Michelle Berger: Yep. Crystal Cheeks: The voice recognition thing is cool. And uh voice recognition, the software, open source software exist already. It's a bit sketchy at some times, uh, you're not gonna get good always accurate results, but for a very fixed number of words, you know you have, how many different words can you have for a remote control, up, down, left, right, channel five, channel seven, you know, how many, you can't have that many words. For a fixed vocabulary it works quite well. I'm pretty sure people would buy it. But after a while people may wanna return it, because if you have to to say som I mean most people use a remote control for switching to channels, and they say they do that about ninety eight percent of the time. Using the remote control, ninety eight percent of the time for changing channels, and that's for flickering through channels. So if you have to say up, up, up, up, if you have to do that all the time, then people might get a bit fed up with that and they may return it. However, oh, because the voice recognition software exists already, there's no need to spend money on research and development, but this does mean the need for microphones in the in the remote control, which is an unusual feature in my opinion. But if we do have the voice recognition thing, there's a lot of stuff that you can uh get rid of. See, you could there're two options. Either you have voice recognition by itself, which I think is a bit impractical for like night time if you wanna be watching television and you wanna be quiet, or I don't know you have a visitor coming round and the remote's only trained for you, it's a bit impractical to have just voice recognition by itself. So you can have voice recognition and a regular remote. But imagine you got rid of the regular remote part, then you can design the remote to look any way you want it to look, because there are no restrictions on physical size, or shape, it it could be as fancy as you want it to be, you know, it could be like a lollipop or something like that, something weird like that. As long as the voice recognition stuff works, that's that's fine. Michelle Berger: Okay, yep. Crystal Cheeks: So we have the three birds, that we have the the fancy bit, right, the voice recognition's fancy, it's cool, it's different, it's radical, so, and then we have an extra bit I don't remember so I'm pretty sure people will buy the remote, but is it practical to have a voice recognition system in a remote control, I think is a big question. Um, will people will people be willing to wait for the the period that it'll take to train the remote, 'cause I think it will the remote will uh get better over time with the same user user, but for the first week or for the first two weeks are you willing to wait, are you willing to have a bad remote control. And uh what if you have visitors come round, they stay the night, they wanna use the T_V_, they can't use the remote because they speak differently to you. Um, how do you account for regional accents and stuff like that. Uh, will people return the remote control, I think a lot of young people will buy the remote control, if they have the money, you know, so, Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Crystal Cheeks: do our audience have the money, but would they return it after a while because it's not as fast as pressing a button, it's not a practical. So. Michelle Berger: If Crystal Cheeks: These Michelle Berger: you could Crystal Cheeks: are things Michelle Berger: uh Crystal Cheeks: I think we should consider. I Michelle Berger: sor Crystal Cheeks: think it's cool, Michelle Berger: if you could speed it up a bit, yeah. Crystal Cheeks: I'm sorry? Michelle Berger: If you could uh speed it up a bit please, Crystal Cheeks: Sure. Michelle Berger: yeah. Crystal Cheeks: I'm about Michelle Berger: Sorry. Crystal Cheeks: to end, yeah. Michelle Berger: Cool. Crystal Cheeks: I think it's cool but there are definitely some considerations. Michelle Berger: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: So, yeah. Michelle Berger: Excellent. Right. Um. Hear from Susan Price now I think might be an idea. Susan Price: Okay. Michelle Berger: Um, Tanya Heuser: How did where Michelle Berger: you've Tanya Heuser: did Michelle Berger: got your presentation now, Susan Price: Yeah, Michelle Berger: is it Susan Price: it's Michelle Berger: on Susan Price: in Michelle Berger: the Susan Price: the it's the folder Tanya Heuser: did you Susan Price: yeah. Tanya Heuser: get Michelle Berger: is Tanya Heuser: all your Michelle Berger: it? Tanya Heuser: in Michelle Berger: Okay. Tanya Heuser: information? Crystal Cheeks: There was uh a website, Tanya Heuser: Oh. Crystal Cheeks: uh, right here. Tanya Heuser: Ah, okay. Michelle Berger: Technical functions? Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: No. Yeah. Crystal Cheeks: G I started making stuff up, then I got an email saying Michelle Berger: Okay. Susan Price: Okay, this is a brief run through of the um of the technical functions of the remote. As um is uh the the the presentation is uh already slightly obsolete because I had in mind something that would uh be i be aimed at controlling multiple devices but uh there's still stuff of relevance, so Michelle Berger: Okay. Susan Price: press on. I've looked at looked at a num uh couple other uh remote control models just an basic design principles. Um and wasn't really satisfied by what I saw I have to say so this is more sort of springboard for uh how these could be improved on. Um um basically the job of the device is to send commands to an appliance, in this case the television set. Um to save you getting off your backside. Um and there's two main trends in th in the sort of design practice. On the one hand and this uh this particularly relates to its sort of earliest models where with you know i so so many buttons on it so about the size of the television set. Um giving you every possible function that the that the device has, the remote control controls. And most of these functions are not going to be used, it creates a rather user unfriendly interface. And on the other hand there's a user focused approach that pares things down to just what what is most likely to get used. Um With uh a and a and of course there is a certain amount of sort of loss of function here obviously, but mostly that's relatively peripheral functions. And so you go for something that's fairly intuitive to use, and um well f the for the most part for T_V_ remote it's uh tha that would be channel control and volume. Um and if you if you if you are wanting to incorporate uh control of a D_V_ D_V_D_ or uh V_C_R_ presumably into that then there's a play, pause, stop, rewind, fast-forward, record, so forth. Um. My own view is that we should definitely be going for a user focused design. Um but uh the pro I think the problem with a lot of the sort of user focused designs that are about is that they sort of make assumptions in advance about what uh what a given user's going to uh want mo want to do from want it to do most. So, something that's uh something that is more programmable, that uh perh perhaps has the full range of functions available to it but you can then specify yourself what you're most likely to want. Um so that those are then immediately accessible through fairly minimal number of controls, um I liked Ebenezer's idea of including a joystick in that and uh possibly a sort of fairly minimal number of sort of function buttons, and have a disp you then have some sort of basic display on it so that if you're um sort of cha changing from different modes for the device it'll tell you just exactly what uh you know each direction of the uh of the um joystick's going to do or wha or what each function button's going to do. Um, this is actually a again slightly taking inspiration off of uh games controllers, Crystal Cheeks: Mm. Susan Price: you know the Playstation control where you have four basic function buttons that are just marked with um distinctive uh geometrical shapes but the and then dependent on what you're doing with it what game and so on um those uh those functions are then sort of further specified. And so it's taking taking the lead from that. Um. Michelle Berger: Okay. Yeah. Right. Susan Price: That's it. Michelle Berger: Um, if we could hear from our Industrial engineer, or Tanya Heuser: Yeah. Michelle Berger: Designer. Tanya Heuser: Uh, I was still working on stuff, I hadn't got it finished. Um, alright. Click to save in where do I have to save it? Michelle Berger: If you look on the desktop you'll find that there's a link to the project folder, or project documents. If you save it in there we can open it up from here. Tanya Heuser: Um, what I've done with it, I'm sorry. Tanya Heuser: Shit. Um Michelle Berger: Are you finding it okay or? Tanya Heuser: I'm just closing it now. where I've saved it. Crystal Cheeks: Well like if you go to one, uh whichever one you were Tanya Heuser: that's Crystal Cheeks: working Tanya Heuser: it there, yeah. Crystal Cheeks: yeah, and you just click file save as. Tanya Heuser: Oh right. Michelle Berger: Okay. Tanya Heuser: right I'm responsible for working design, uh, this is basically the inside going on of the the uh remote control. So we have the energy source, we have the user interface, this this is what I've seen. Uh the sender will push the button, the chip will respond, uh and then the dig digital signal is sent to the T_V_. So uh uh, if you go to next slide, you'll see you'll see uh what do we need on the user interface. Do we need uh many buttons, or do we need l many light bulbs that could be easier to uh to realise which appliances are on or not. Um, or would that take too much power, would we need more um components in there to supply the power? Um, the joystick is another thing, if we were gonna add that, um, there'd be more components to deal with that. Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Tanya Heuser: Um, so uh we need to I dunno exactly what That's the design of the the the layout of the uh electronic design, but um obviously there'll be more details once we've decided what we're putting on the user interface. Michelle Berger: Okay. Tanya Heuser: So, that'll be decided, I guess. Uh, and the next slide. Oh, yeah Um, if you go to the next slide then. Michelle Berger: Oh. Yeah. Tanya Heuser: I just used the it was a mess, uh I was just putting adding it together at the end there. Michelle Berger: Ah, don't Tanya Heuser: Uh Michelle Berger: worry about it at all mate. Tanya Heuser: Uh so you have the energy source obviously connected to the chip, and the user interface obviously contains everything. You have the switch turn it on, infrared bulb, uh will contact the T_V_ and will have whatever device or D_V_D_ player, the bulb will turn on to say it's on. Uh, so do we need on the control uh different buttons to decide, or different light bulbs, would it be easier? Um, I dunno what we should decide on that. Michelle Berger: Okay. Well. Oh sorry, I'm I'm interrupting you. Are Tanya Heuser: No, Michelle Berger: you Tanya Heuser: it's finished, Michelle Berger: is it Tanya Heuser: yeah. Michelle Berger: yeah? Okay. Right. Um, right we can probably skip that for now. So, we've had some stuff put forward, um along with the new user requirements, um we've had a lot of kind of input I'd say so far. Um I hear what Crystal Cheeks's saying about um voice activated control. However I've got a couple of worries about that. The power required, um and the ability Tanya Heuser: Cost. Michelle Berger: to Tanya Heuser: Mm. Michelle Berger: the cost, it seems like for uh an embedded system, this could cause us issues. Um for example you see that there's fairly robust services on uh computers via uh via voice, I_B_M_ do um drag and dictate, Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: but these require a lot of memory and usually um state quite advanced processor requirements. Um voice activation could be an interesting idea but I think that our Ind Industrial Designer would probably upon some research say that it's maybe not feasible. Crystal Cheeks: 'Kay. Michelle Berger: Um that's just my view Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: right now, however the idea of a joystick and then maybe an L_C_D_ which has been kind of put forward so far, it's almost like having a small T_ not T_V_ to say, but if you can control almost all of the functionality from the display, I don't know how much power an L_C_D_ would take, Crystal Cheeks: Mm. Michelle Berger: but it might be quite low? Tanya Heuser: L_C_D_ Crystal Cheeks: I uh Tanya Heuser: on the remote just telling you what's on, or uh, Michelle Berger: Well literally Tanya Heuser: interactive Michelle Berger: um Tanya Heuser: L_C_D_ or Michelle Berger: if you can imagine the display maybe slightly larger than um those on a a mobile phone, something Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: where you can read an an um fair amount of information, traverse maybe quite a few menus, if we maybe used mobile phones as a good example, they usually incorporate they have the keypad, and then evr all the other functionality is usually associated inside by traversing around. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: That could be one possibility. Um and then we could have like say the common buttons as you say, Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: volume control, changing channels Susan Price: I I was thinking that the remote the um sort of default functions for the joystick would be up and down for uh volume, left and right for channels. Michelle Berger: We Tanya Heuser: Do you think that people will get mixed up, like, they'll be looking at this screen and that screen and then, you know, trying to get everything working, would it be a bit confusing? Susan Price: Um I think probably for the first couple of hours of using it Tanya Heuser: Yeah. Susan Price: um but you know muscle memory's a wonderful thing, um. Crystal Cheeks: Mm. Susan Price: And I think and I think that size of uh display was about what I had in mind. Um though I mean I w I would say that uh we could probably probably be required to um mo most of the mobile phone displays you see these days are colour but we should probably try to stick to black and white. Michelle Berger: I Susan Price: Si Michelle Berger: would agree with Susan Price: si Michelle Berger: you. Susan Price: simply to keep m keep the unit cost down. Um I mean colour could be a sort of subsequent development but uh you know cost a bit of extra money f w w w w w once everyone's got the first, you know, oh colour's out, we'll have to replace Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: it won't we. It does nothing extra. Michelle Berger: That would be my feeling as well, I think we could possibly create quite a useful user interface. Um Crystal Cheeks: Sure Michelle Berger: now I mean Crystal Cheeks: but Michelle Berger: I don't sorry, go for it. Crystal Cheeks: the idea of a remote with a menu or and a joystick I think like I h if I was in the habit of buying remote controls then I would want one, but I think we don't have a specific audience, you know, like what is our target audience, what niche are niche are we trying to market and corner. You know, you know what I'm saying, like, for whom is this intended? Everybody? Michelle Berger: I think it could probably be aimed at most people who've used a mobile. And that might be just another way of saying try to target most people. Crystal Cheeks: Most people, yeah. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: might be s you know um we're kind of almost relying on their experience with a mobile phone I suppose. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: But that does cover a very large section of the people out there. Crystal Cheeks: Sure. I think that's fair Michelle Berger: Um, Susan Price: Mm. Crystal Cheeks: yeah. Michelle Berger: I mean I imagine as well that the actual L_C_D_ and maybe to a certain extent the joystick as well would be for the additional functionality. Which maybe doesn't get used as often, maybe it makes it easy for them to figure out how to um change the channels as in the frequencies and such for reprogramming it. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: Um and you can still have the main buttons that allow the people to turn the machine on and off, d up and down, it depends, I mean maybe we have the fol um the joystick as a separate one for the other functions then, that there's just a a small number of as you were saying uh buttons that have already been defined. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: So like we go for the nice standard um up and down for and volume control. So that literally anybody can come along, pick up the remote and still know what do do. And Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: they can completely ignore most of the functionality which would be for say the o actual owner of the the T_V_ and who would normally use the unit. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: I dunno. Susan Price: I th the thing I like about the uh the uh joystick is that uh you you you then basically you can then basically put it I mean for for T_ T_ for T_V_ remote alone, you could put um I mean there are like I say the the the main things people do with a T_V_ remote control is the volume and the channel. You can pack all that onto was onto a single control. Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: Um. But uh but the but then o uh obviously if uh you know I mean with things like ch with things like tuning and channels um you know adjusting brightn uh brightness and fiddly things that no one really bothers with, most T_V_s these days actually have menus anyway so Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: this would be a fairly rational way of integra integrating the uh the remote with the device it's controlling. Um concern about our market. Um, if we are I mean most of the uh of the replacement remote market is sort of remote control rationalisation. Um, you've got twenty different devices Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Susan Price: in your living room, Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: you want one wo y you want one that'll do the job of all of them. Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: Um, if all you're replacing is one of the you know however many remotes you have in your living room, um you know you still need separate remotes for everything else. I just think that uh Michelle Berger: Well this Susan Price: possibly Michelle Berger: is a requirement that we have Susan Price: mm. Michelle Berger: to stick to I'm afraid, this isn't one that I've just arbitrarily decided on. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: So um this is this is one of the solid ones that has to be obeyed, for now. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: So I can understand your point, and I would agree with you, but this is our design spec for now. 'Fraid to say. Um Susan Price: Does that um would that include um access to say interactive functions on digital or cable? Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: I would say so, yes, because then we have to be able to control the remote boxes, and that is a separate unit. Um I think that it I would say that the design spec we've been with is for the television only for now. Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: And until we Crystal Cheeks: Hmm. Michelle Berger: hear otherwise we should go with just that. Crystal Cheeks: Okay, specifically Susan Price: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: television. Michelle Berger: Okay. Maybe we'll hear differently, but Crystal Cheeks: So Michelle Berger: for Crystal Cheeks: the Michelle Berger: now Crystal Cheeks: joystick is just for differentness. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: It would be ease of manipulation of certain functions, Crystal Cheeks: Okay. Michelle Berger: yes. Susan Price: Just Michelle Berger: Um Susan Price: a thought. Um maybe then our market should be T_V_ manufacturers, rather than the public. Try and sell it t sell it to them to supply with um Michelle Berger: There is that possibility, yes. B However I don't know exactly where we'll be going with that, but Crystal Cheeks: Mm. Michelle Berger: it might not even be the avenue of Crystal Cheeks, that might be sales, Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: who are not in this meeting. Crystal Cheeks: It's just, the way I figure it, twelve point five Euros per unit, Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Crystal Cheeks: we have to sell at least like three million or something like that, not to account for all the the money we waste on remotes that no one buys, you know, like if we made a perf if we made a ks Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Crystal Cheeks: for every remote we made someone bought it, then we have to sell a lot of remote controls. We just Is this gonna be enough to to sell? Michelle Berger: Well, something else that you brought up was uh the ability to lose a remote, which as you said you've done, in fact we've probably all done. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: Um, I don't know if it's a gimmick or not, but have any of you ever seen those odd little key rings where if you whistle, it will beep and you tell you where it is. Crystal Cheeks: I had Susan Price: Mm, Crystal Cheeks: one of those, Susan Price: yeah, Crystal Cheeks: and my Susan Price: I've Crystal Cheeks: brother, Susan Price: seen them. Crystal Cheeks: and my Michelle Berger: Um. Crystal Cheeks: dad, could have beat Crystal Cheeks up because it it went off all the time accidentally. Michelle Berger: Well the other option of course is that um Crystal Cheeks: The clapping one. Michelle Berger: the well I was going to say clapping, um Um digital telephones, uh for example, one unit has of course you have to have that base unit, somewhere where there's a button, but maybe it's a button that you attach to the T_V_. Crystal Cheeks: To a television. Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: Something which you when you press that, it would beep to give its location away, on the remote unit. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: And Susan Price: Yeah, I think that's Michelle Berger: that Susan Price: a good Michelle Berger: could Susan Price: idea. Michelle Berger: be something could um Crystal Cheeks: Yeah, Michelle Berger: separate Crystal Cheeks: that's a good idea. Michelle Berger: us a bit. And that way, because we're attaching what would be a small button to the T_V_, again say what, it would be a small transmitter, um watch battery type scenario I would say, or something that if it was problems enough you could actually even just um I don't power that might be something that we could look into. Tanya Heuser: Yeah Michelle Berger: Yep. Yeah, it's uh putting a lot on your shoulders there, so I mean that could be something that separates us a bit from the market Crystal Cheeks: I Michelle Berger: as Crystal Cheeks: think Michelle Berger: well. Crystal Cheeks: so, yeah. Michelle Berger: So. To go on from here. Um we have to decide exactly what we're going to do with the remote. Before we leave this meeting, it would be best to say this is what we're going this is the design we're gonna try and get, this is how we're gonna make ourselves look unique. Do we go for Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: maybe a remote contro uh sorry, we're gonna go for a remote control obviously, do we go for a small joystick that would operate say changing channels, up and down, and then, what, another button that would say that it's now being used to manoeuvre round the L_C_D_. Susan Price: Mm yeah. Tanya Heuser: We're Susan Price: Yeah, Tanya Heuser: just saying volume. Susan Price: I think that's Tanya Heuser: Should volume be important in the joystick, do you think? Michelle Berger: We could use Susan Price: Yeah. Michelle Berger: say the left and right for changing channels and the up and down Susan Price: For Michelle Berger: for Susan Price: volume. Michelle Berger: volume, Tanya Heuser: Yep. Crystal Cheeks: But Michelle Berger: and Crystal Cheeks: we have a frequency of how what people use a remote control for most. Michelle Berger: Okay. Crystal Cheeks: Um, power Tanya Heuser: I Crystal Cheeks: is used like once per hour, channel selection is used a hundred and sixty eight Michelle Berger: Mm-hmm. Crystal Cheeks: per hour, that's by far the biggest one, and then teletext, is still here, that's like fourteen, Michelle Berger: Vol Crystal Cheeks: and volume selection. Michelle Berger: Volume selection okay, yep, the teletext we're gambling with, and we're gonna say Crystal Cheeks: No, Michelle Berger: it's Crystal Cheeks: yeah, Michelle Berger: dead, Crystal Cheeks: okay okay. Michelle Berger: the way of the dodo Crystal Cheeks: Yeah, um Michelle Berger: So we well, sorry, we could maybe even go as far as saying power button, small joystick, L_C_D_, and then what maybe is it one more button to say that you're using the menu system, and with the possibility of pushing down on the joystick to say okay? So we're having very very few buttons involved, Susan Price: Actually Michelle Berger: but Susan Price: how Michelle Berger: navigation around a menu for most things. Susan Price: Actually I would say maybe two two function buttons, the y we're now using the menus button and um and an og and an okay button. I Michelle Berger: Okay. Susan Price: mean certainly something I've found with the joystick on mo the joysticks on mobile phones is that a lot of the time th the device mistakes you trying to move it in one direction or the other for pushing down for okay. Michelle Berger: Okay. Susan Price: Or vice versa. And that's really irritating. Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: Um Susan Price: The o the o the other dis design constraint I think we should bear in mind is that people are you know very much used to using a remote control one handedly, um, so we need to make sure that e even with the joystick, you know something that can just sit comfortably in the palm of the hand and have the joystick just controlled by the thumb. Michelle Berger: Okay. So um we're actually that sounds like a rough idea. Do we incorporate the idea of trying to f locate the remote control again via a beeping noise? Tanya Heuser: Yeah, think so. Michelle Berger: Do Crystal Cheeks: Um, I think Michelle Berger: you Crystal Cheeks: because Michelle Berger: mind looking? Crystal Cheeks: it's so small it might be an uh I mean if we only have like two three buttons it might be essential to have to have Michelle Berger: The ability Crystal Cheeks: that Michelle Berger: to locate it again. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: So that would require a um transmitter maybe attached to the T_V_, just so that it says find Crystal Cheeks, and what, a basically a small microphone um on the actual unit, can maybe hide it in Tanya Heuser: Light Michelle Berger: the base. Tanya Heuser: bulb as Susan Price: Oh. Tanya Heuser: well, no? Michelle Berger: Sorry? Susan Price: So so a small speaker you mean. Crystal Cheeks: Speaker Michelle Berger: Some speaker, sorry, yeah. Crystal Cheeks: yeah. Tanya Heuser: And a light bulb? No. To flash. No. Michelle Berger: Um Tanya Heuser: Nah, you'd see it anyway, if you hear Michelle Berger: E Tanya Heuser: it. Michelle Berger: us we might be better with the sound possibly Crystal Cheeks: W Tanya Heuser: Yeah. Michelle Berger: we could maybe Crystal Cheeks: those Michelle Berger: incorporate Crystal Cheeks: little key-rings have both, so Michelle Berger: th e the true fact, considering the cost of an L_E_D_, Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: we could just incorporate it anyway. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: The L_E_D_s can be surprisingly bright now. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Tanya Heuser: Mm-hmm. Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: Um. Susan Price: Blue ones particularly. Plus that's a nice wee design touch. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Michelle Berger: So by the sounds of it, with what we're suggesting so far, your design um the user interface is still quite open, you could go for quite an interesting design. Because Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: we're only going to have a very few key and you've got you know a small L_C_D_, joystick, e I think it leaves you open to a a potential wide range of shapes, something that can make it stand out slightly. Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: Um if you could look into what we've suggested so far, the feasibility of um small transmitter, um and such, maybe if an L_C_D_ screen requires too much power, or such. Ebenezer, um, Marketing Expert Crystal Cheeks: Well I can give you the frequency, what people what options people use most often, I guess that's gonna be important in the ts defining the the software side of the interface, right. You Michelle Berger: If, Crystal Cheeks: want the stuff. Michelle Berger: yeah if you could maybe as well see what people think about the idea of this minimalist approach that we've taken, where of a joystick to control the very basic functions, Crystal Cheeks: Okay. Michelle Berger: and then the idea of manipulating it like you would a mobile. Crystal Cheeks: Okay. Michelle Berger: I don't know how easy that will be within the time frame, but could Crystal Cheeks: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: be something we could maybe look into. Crystal Cheeks: Sure. Sure. Michelle Berger: Okay. Um any last comments that anybody would like to put forward? Anything that they think has been missed out. Bit of a wide open question there of course. Crystal Cheeks: Mm. Michelle Berger: Feel free to email Crystal Cheeks if you think that uh we've screwed something up and wanna get it rectified as soon as possible. Crystal Cheeks: Sure. 'Kay. Michelle Berger: Right. Crystal Cheeks: Yeah. Tanya Heuser: So I should just look at um the speaker, the speaker and an L_E_D_. And Michelle Berger: Speaker and L_E_D_ for locating, um, Tanya Heuser: Yeah, Crystal Cheeks: Transmitter. Tanya Heuser: and a transmitter. Michelle Berger: transmitter Susan Price: Actually one one wee thought about that. Um, if we do end up trying to market this to television manufacturers then the um then the transmitter could actually be built into the television. Michelle Berger: getting the external power source, yep, that's quite true. Um, and something that we can can easily be adopted at the last minute as well I'd say. Susan Price: Yeah. Michelle Berger: The electronics could be s either placed externally or internally, makes no difference Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: to the final product of the actual remote control, so that's good. Uses maybe gives us a new potential market. Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: 'Kay. Susan Price: You know Tanya Heuser: P Susan Price: I think I mean if it w if we get a major television manufacturer to say y oh yeah we'll have that, save us the bother, then that's you know vast amounts of sales. Quite quickly. Michelle Berger: Oh, one thing that we've almost not talked about at all, my apologies for that, um, user interface, we also need to maybe get the slogan in here, um it's, Tanya Heuser: Fashion. Michelle Berger: I'm pointing at my laptop, what in God Real reaction, and such. So um Tanya Heuser: The slogan is yeah, Michelle Berger: Oh, sorry. Tanya Heuser: the slogan's we put the fashion in electronics, isn't it? Michelle Berger: My apologies. No it could well be, I've probably missed that. Um, Tanya Heuser: 'S also Michelle Berger: I Tanya Heuser: look Michelle Berger: think Tanya Heuser: cool. Michelle Berger: that's l almost the last minute thing we can just incorporate into the actual plastic on top. So Susan Price: Mm. Michelle Berger: I'm not too concerned a that we haven't gone into depth about that. But it might be something you could consider when you're thinking about shapes? In fact we might Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: like to put a slogan on, and um Susan Price: Mm-hmm. Michelle Berger: possibly the two R_s to signify the company. Rather than real reaction. Susan Price: Mm. Yeah. I thought the uh the d the double arc could perhaps uh be the uh the enter button. Michelle Berger: Sounds good. And I'd say that that's us for now. Okay.

Michelle Berger recapped the events of the previous meeting and briefed the team on some new requirements the team must follow when designing the remote. Crystal Cheeks presented research on consumer preferences and user requirements for remotes. Crystal Cheeks also presented information regarding voice recognition and what demographic finds the feature appealing. Susan Price described the technical functions of a remote and stressed the need for a user focused design. Tanya Heuser discussed the interior workings of a remote. The team then discussed the option to include voice recognition, LCD, and a feature to locate a misplaced remote. The team briefly discussed who they were aiming their product to along with the idea of marketing their product to television manufacturers. The team also decided on some features to include in their product.

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Madonna Lindsey: Hmm hmm hmm. Brandi Hayes: Are we we're not allowed to dim the lights so people can see that a bit better? Madonna Lindsey: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: Okay, that's fine. Am I supposed to be standing up there? Carol Kornfeld: So Brandi Hayes: Okay. Carol Kornfeld: we've got both of these clipped on? She gonna answer Carol Kornfeld Brandi Hayes: Yeah, Carol Kornfeld: or not? Brandi Hayes: I've got Carol Kornfeld: Right, both of them, okay. Brandi Hayes: Yes. Carol Kornfeld: God. Jesus, it's gonna fall off. Madonna Lindsey: Okay Yep yep, Okay. Brandi Hayes: Okay. Madonna Lindsey: Tu tu tu tu Brandi Hayes: Hello everybody. Madonna Lindsey: Hi, good morning. Brandi Hayes: Um I'm Sarah, Brandi Hayes and this is our first meeting, surprisingly enough. Okay, this is our agenda, um we will do some stuff, get to know each other a bit better to feel more comfortable with each other. Um then we'll go do tool training, talk about the project plan, discuss our own ideas and everything um and we've got twenty five minutes to do that, as far as I can understand. Now, we're developing a remote control which you probably already know. Um, we want it to be original, something that's uh people haven't thought of, that's not out in the shops, um, trendy, appealing to a wide market, but you know, not a hunk of metal, and user-friendly, grannies to kids, maybe even pooches should be able to use it. Okay, um, first is the functional design, um this is where we all go off and do our individual work, um what needs need to be fulfilled by the product, um what effects the product has to have and how it's actually going to do that. Um, conceptual design, what we're thinking, how it's gonna go and then the detailed design, how we're actually gonna put it into practice and make it work. Madonna Lindsey: 'Kay. Brandi Hayes: Okay, right. We're gonna practice with the pens and draw our favourite animal on the white board, I'll go first, and um sum up the characteristics of that animal. So Madonna Lindsey: Oops. Brandi Hayes: Okay, I'll leave space for everyone else. Um Brandi Hayes: What's missing? Brandi Hayes: We're running out of blue. Okay. I'm not gonna ask you to guess, I'm going to tell you that's supposed to be a tiger. Madonna Lindsey: Mm. Brandi Hayes: And I see them Madonna Lindsey: Oh Brandi Hayes: as Madonna Lindsey: sorry. Brandi Hayes: majestic, Madonna Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: and independent, and proud. Now, who would like to go next? Madonna Lindsey: Yeah, Carol Kornfeld. Brandi Hayes: 'Kay. Madonna Lindsey: Cat. Where did this come from? Brandi Hayes: Is that your lapel then? Madonna Lindsey: Uh, Brandi Hayes: There you go. Madonna Lindsey: yep. Thank you. Uh, maybe you can guess what I'm trying to make? Carol Kornfeld: A kind of dog? Madonna Lindsey: Yep. It's actually sitting, so Carol Kornfeld: Sorry? Natalie Parker: It's sitting Madonna Lindsey: it's sitting, Natalie Parker: down. Madonna Lindsey: it's not standing. Carol Kornfeld: Uh. Madonna Lindsey: Okay, I see it as one thing it's very supportive. It's your best friend your you can talk to a dog, it can be your best friend, it doesn't discriminate between you, based on what you are. Second it's loyal and third thing it's got intuition. dogs can som sometimes can make out between a thief and a Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Madonna Lindsey: person so basically these are the three unique features I think belong to a dog. Brandi Hayes: Okay, thank you. Madonna Lindsey: Thank you. Natalie Parker: Yeah I'll Madonna Lindsey: Okay. Natalie Parker: have a go. Madonna Lindsey: Sorry. Carol Kornfeld: Please, please Natalie Parker: Thanks. Carol Kornfeld: leave Carol Kornfeld a space at the bottom, I'm little, Natalie Parker: Alright, Carol Kornfeld: you can get to Natalie Parker: okay. Carol Kornfeld: the top, with standing on a chair. Natalie Parker: Well since you guys have chosen the ones I wanted to do, I'll have Brandi Hayes: Okay. Natalie Parker: to have to Madonna Lindsey: Does Natalie Parker: go Madonna Lindsey: it Natalie Parker: for Madonna Lindsey: look Natalie Parker: something Madonna Lindsey: like a dog Natalie Parker: a bit Madonna Lindsey: actually? Natalie Parker: random. And also, my drawing skill isn't that great Brandi Hayes: Well, Natalie Parker: so, Brandi Hayes: as you can see, the quality Natalie Parker: yeah. Madonna Lindsey: Mm. Brandi Hayes: of the work today is um Carol Kornfeld: I think it's outstandingly good. Natalie Parker: Okay, now I'm gonna have to change what is was originally gonna be because that looks like a beak now, so. Carol Kornfeld: Crocodile? Brandi Hayes: Gonna be Natalie Parker: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: a Natalie Parker: it Brandi Hayes: bird. Natalie Parker: can be a crocodile, it can be Brandi Hayes: Is Natalie Parker: a Brandi Hayes: it Natalie Parker: crocodile. Brandi Hayes: gonna be it's Natalie Parker: an Brandi Hayes: gonna Natalie Parker: at Brandi Hayes: be Natalie Parker: first Brandi Hayes: a bird. Natalie Parker: firstly it was an attempt at a T_ Rex and then it sort Carol Kornfeld: O Natalie Parker: of changed into a pelican but it can be a crocodile now actually. Brandi Hayes: That's lovely. Natalie Parker: Yeah Carol Kornfeld: Beauti Natalie Parker: and Carol Kornfeld: that's Natalie Parker: uh I'll have to think on the spot of uh things that it is. Um uh scary, uh strong, yeah that's about it I think. Brandi Hayes: Okay it's fine. Carol Kornfeld: Okay. Um, I'm very impressed your artistic skills, Natalie Parker: Uh Carol Kornfeld: mine's are dreadful. Natalie Parker: uh Carol Kornfeld: Oops this is now coming apart, let Carol Kornfeld just put the top in. Natalie Parker: Wo Carol Kornfeld: I hope that clicks in, I'll just I'll hold it on, okay. Oops, oh dear, what happened there? Brandi Hayes: Technical help. Carol Kornfeld: Hopefully Natalie Parker: Hmm. Carol Kornfeld: that'll stay on, two-handed version. Natalie Parker: Okay. Carol Kornfeld: Okay, uh Again this is off the top of my head, I was gonna do a big Natalie Parker: Uh Carol Kornfeld: cat too, um. Oh Brandi Hayes: Hmm. Carol Kornfeld: dear, it doesn't look what like what I want it to be. Natalie Parker: S Carol Kornfeld: Uh. Natalie Parker: Uh Carol Kornfeld: It's not a vampire bat honestly. Brandi Hayes: Okay, yeah. Carol Kornfeld: Uh and somewhere there's a body behind. Natalie Parker: Okay, Carol Kornfeld: That's Natalie Parker: some Carol Kornfeld: my dreadful Natalie Parker: sort of Carol Kornfeld: that's the worst yet, Natalie Parker: bird. Carol Kornfeld: that's it's meant to be an eagle Brandi Hayes: A seagu Natalie Parker: Ah Madonna Lindsey: Eagle, Brandi Hayes: right, Natalie Parker: eagle, Madonna Lindsey: okay. Natalie Parker: right Brandi Hayes: not Carol Kornfeld: you Natalie Parker: okay. Carol Kornfeld: can Brandi Hayes: a seagull. Carol Kornfeld: tell it's a flying animal could have been a seagull, I never thought of a seagull. An eagle, um again I'm thinking on my feet goodness. I suppose they're all so independent, I'd put that one down again. Da dum um. Natalie Parker: They're good at golf. Carol Kornfeld: Indepen independent, right, did you say they're good at golf? Natalie Parker: Yeah, Carol Kornfeld: Are they? Natalie Parker: no yeah, Brandi Hayes: Eagle. Carol Kornfeld: Oh. Natalie Parker: an eagle. Carol Kornfeld: Oh right, okay, I'm not good at golf. I'd say they're quite free-spirited, flying around everywhere, doing their own thing. And uh, birds of prey aren't they, oh dear, Brandi Hayes: Mm-hmm. Carol Kornfeld: intrepid. I'll put that, intrepid. There we go, Brandi Hayes: That's Carol Kornfeld: hope Brandi Hayes: lovely. Carol Kornfeld: that pen's gonna be okay. Whoops. Brandi Hayes: Okay. That was fun, right. Um finance-wise, we've got a selling price at twenty five Euros, which I don't actually know what that is in Pounds, at all. Any ideas? Natalie Parker: It's about Carol Kornfeld: Seventeen. Natalie Parker: mm, Madonna Lindsey: One point four Natalie Parker: mm yeah. Madonna Lindsey: or something like that. One point four Euro would make a Pound or something Natalie Parker: Yeah, Madonna Lindsey: like that. Natalie Parker: yeah, something like that, so Madonna Lindsey: Yeah. Natalie Parker: that Brandi Hayes: D Natalie Parker: yeah about seventeen, Brandi Hayes: fifteen? Carol Kornfeld: Seventeen Brandi Hayes: Seventeen. Natalie Parker: seventeen Carol Kornfeld: Pounds. Natalie Parker: Pounds, Brandi Hayes: Okay, Natalie Parker: something like that. Brandi Hayes: that's expensive. Carol Kornfeld: Should we be making notes of this? We can just refer to this later can't Natalie Parker: But Brandi Hayes: I Carol Kornfeld: we? Brandi Hayes: think so, Carol Kornfeld: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: I think Carol Kornfeld: okay. Brandi Hayes: so, I'll be able to um pull it up, or Carol Kornfeld: Okay. Brandi Hayes: I could put it Natalie Parker: Havi Brandi Hayes: in the shared folder or Natalie Parker: having Brandi Hayes: something. Natalie Parker: said that though, if you wanna get one of those the the ones on the market at the moment they're s they're about twenty pounds anyway. So, Carol Kornfeld: Right. Brandi Hayes: Really? Natalie Parker: it'd still be yeah, we had to Carol Kornfeld: So Natalie Parker: buy one. Brandi Hayes: Mm. Carol Kornfeld: so Brandi Hayes: I Carol Kornfeld: I suppose Brandi Hayes: think Carol Kornfeld: later it depends if we want to undercut the price, we d or or is it going to make our product look a cheapie-cheapie option? Brandi Hayes: Yeah, Natalie Parker: Hmm. Brandi Hayes: um production cost's at twelve fifty, so Madonna Lindsey: Okay, pretty huge margin. Brandi Hayes: half of the selling price is Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: taken Carol Kornfeld: Mm. Brandi Hayes: up by building it. Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: Um, and profit aim is fifty million Euros, which is uh Carol Kornfeld: In our first year? Brandi Hayes: Yi yes, um yeah, I presume so. Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Madonna Lindsey: So Brandi Hayes: Um Madonna Lindsey: then Carol Kornfeld: You've got market range international and you did say earlier it's got to be a um accessible and usable by sort of all age groups Brandi Hayes: Mm-hmm. Carol Kornfeld: just t we're not focusing on business market, any particular thing, it's Brandi Hayes: No, Carol Kornfeld: everyone user-friendly Brandi Hayes: yeah. Carol Kornfeld: to everyone. Okay. Big Brandi Hayes: So Carol Kornfeld: target group. Brandi Hayes: yes, yes, I don't think we have to I don't think it's a case of worrying about different languages and things like that, Carol Kornfeld: No. Brandi Hayes: um making that a key point, just that it's going to be in the international market like Carol Kornfeld: Mm. Brandi Hayes: Australia, America, things like that. Okay. What are your experiences with remote controls? I mean I've got we got um we had three videos, a T_V_ and a sort of amp thing all Madonna Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: set up Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: so we got one of the universal remote controls, Carol Kornfeld: Alright. Natalie Parker: Yeah. Madonna Lindsey: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: um Madonna Lindsey: that c Brandi Hayes: that you programme each of your things into, but that kept losing the signals so we'd have to re-programme it every now and again. I think it was quite a cheapie as well, Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Natalie Parker: Yeah Brandi Hayes: so Natalie Parker: uh. Brandi Hayes: that might have had something to do with it, but that was quite good, the fact that you could Natalie Parker: Use all the ones Brandi Hayes: You didn't Natalie Parker: at the same Brandi Hayes: have Natalie Parker: time. Brandi Hayes: six remote controls sitting Carol Kornfeld: Right. Brandi Hayes: in front of Madonna Lindsey: Okay, Brandi Hayes: you. Madonna Lindsey: you wanna integrate everything into one like Natalie Parker: Yeah, Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Madonna Lindsey: Okay. Natalie Parker: 'cause Carol Kornfeld: My Natalie Parker: you Carol Kornfeld: experience has only been being given the remote control with the object I buy, not doing any tampering with it and programming, using it to programme T_V_ and uh uh videos and things. But basically on, off, volume up and down, channel one, two, th that basic functions, Brandi Hayes: Mm. Carol Kornfeld: I don't think I could go any further with it than that, so, I suppose it's got to be something usable by someone like Carol Kornfeld as well. Brandi Hayes: Yeah, the main that's the main stuff anyway, Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: I mean and you don't want to I hate I hate looking at a control and seeing a million tiny little buttons with tiny little words Carol Kornfeld: Mm. Brandi Hayes: saying what they all do and just Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: sitting there searching for the teletext Carol Kornfeld: Mm. Brandi Hayes: button or Carol Kornfeld: And Brandi Hayes: something Carol Kornfeld: symbols Brandi Hayes: like that. Carol Kornfeld: that you don't necessarily Brandi Hayes: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: understand, symbols you're meant to understand that you don't. Madonna Lindsey: So simplification Brandi Hayes: Um. Madonna Lindsey: of symbols you could think Brandi Hayes: When Madonna Lindsey: of. Brandi Hayes: they're when you've got the main things on the front of it and a section opens up or something to the other functions where you can do sound or options Carol Kornfeld: Oh yeah. Brandi Hayes: kind of recording, things like that inside it. Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: 'Cause it doesn't make when you pick it up it doesn't make it really complicated to Carol Kornfeld: Mm. Brandi Hayes: look at, it's obvious Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: what Natalie Parker: Mm. Brandi Hayes: you're doing, um. Carol Kornfeld: Actually that just raises a point, I wonder what our design people think, but you know on a mobile phone, Madonna Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Carol Kornfeld: you can press a key and it gives you a menu, it's Madonna Lindsey: Menu, Carol Kornfeld: got a menu Madonna Lindsey: alright. Carol Kornfeld: display, I wonder if incorporating that into the design of a remote control might be useful, Natalie Parker: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: so you've got a little Madonna Lindsey: Uh Carol Kornfeld: L_C_D_ Madonna Lindsey: uh Carol Kornfeld: display. Madonna Lindsey: Right, I was thinking on the same lines you, instead of having too many b buttons and make it complicated for the user, may h maybe have an L_C_D_ di display or something like that, like a mobile, Carol Kornfeld: With menus, Madonna Lindsey: yeah and with Carol Kornfeld: yeah, Madonna Lindsey: menus. Carol Kornfeld: yeah. Madonna Lindsey: And if it's s somewhat similar to what you have on mobile phone, people might find it easier to browse and navigate also Carol Kornfeld: Yeah. Madonna Lindsey: maybe. Brandi Hayes: What about the older generation? What about granny and grandads? Um, Madonna Lindsey: You mean to save it lesser Brandi Hayes: my grandad Madonna Lindsey: number. Brandi Hayes: can answer his mobile phone, but Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: he couldn't even dream Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: of texting or something Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: like that. Carol Kornfeld: Can he programme his remote control or is it basic Madonna Lindsey: Right. Carol Kornfeld: with that too? Brandi Hayes: I don't think they tape things, Natalie Parker: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: I Carol Kornfeld: Right. Brandi Hayes: don't think Natalie Parker: my Brandi Hayes: they Natalie Parker: grandad's Brandi Hayes: use Natalie Parker: actually better than Carol Kornfeld at using teletext, so. Carol Kornfeld: Right. So that's a problem regardless of of any design modifications you you come up with, Natalie Parker: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: that's gonna be a problem anyway with the older generation Brandi Hayes: Mm, yeah, Carol Kornfeld: perhaps, Brandi Hayes: the Carol Kornfeld: and Brandi Hayes: age Carol Kornfeld: that's another Brandi Hayes: gap. Carol Kornfeld: issue Natalie Parker: Yeah, Carol Kornfeld: how we tackle that. Natalie Parker: what it just needs to be as long as it's sort of self-intuitive and you can can work out what everything's doing, 'cause I mean, menus on sort of new phones now they've sort of got all these pictures and stuff which makes it fairly obvious what you're trying to do. Brandi Hayes: Mm. Madonna Lindsey: Mm-hmm. Natalie Parker: But Brandi Hayes: I Natalie Parker: I Brandi Hayes: d Natalie Parker: don't know how Brandi Hayes: I don't like the, you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based Natalie Parker: Oh yeah. Brandi Hayes: running system. Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: I find it really confusing, I kept getting lost in the phone, I di I've not got a new one but uh my Carol Kornfeld: Right. Brandi Hayes: friend got a new one and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost, but that's just Carol Kornfeld. Natalie Parker: Yeah, I don't I don't know how for twenty fi, or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get, Brandi Hayes: Yeah. Natalie Parker: you'd you'd have to sort of keep Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Natalie Parker: it down to a black and white L_C_D_ thing anyway, Carol Kornfeld: Is Natalie Parker: I'd Carol Kornfeld: it possible Natalie Parker: assume. Carol Kornfeld: that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books? Madonna Lindsey: Okay. Carol Kornfeld: Obviously Brandi Hayes: Teletext Carol Kornfeld: it displays Brandi Hayes: has got that Carol Kornfeld: less Brandi Hayes: option Carol Kornfeld: on Brandi Hayes: as Carol Kornfeld: the Brandi Hayes: well. Carol Kornfeld: screen, it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing. Brandi Hayes: Yeah. Or what about kind of a dual function? In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play, volume, programme things Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: and also and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures, obvious symbols and Carol Kornfeld: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: that's where you control Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Brandi Hayes: recording and things like that. Carol Kornfeld: Mm. The other thing is, just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again, it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top, your screen is you can have a bigger screen in Brandi Hayes: Mm-hmm. Carol Kornfeld: the Madonna Lindsey: Mm, okay. Carol Kornfeld: the flip over. Brandi Hayes: I think Madonna Lindsey: S Brandi Hayes: that's a cost thing, Natalie Parker: Y Brandi Hayes: I don't Madonna Lindsey: It Brandi Hayes: I Carol Kornfeld: Yeah? Madonna Lindsey: might Brandi Hayes: don't know how much we're gonna know about Madonna Lindsey: it might save a b bit of space, it's i instead Carol Kornfeld: Mm-hmm. Madonna Lindsey: of looking bulky, it might look Brandi Hayes: Yes, Madonna Lindsey: small. Brandi Hayes: no Carol Kornfeld: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: that's important. Natalie Parker: Yeah. Madonna Lindsey: But it might have Carol Kornfeld: like Madonna Lindsey: its Carol Kornfeld: smaller. Madonna Lindsey: cost implications. Brandi Hayes: Okay. Carol Kornfeld: And there's no reason we need to make it look as fashionable and stylish as a mobile phone, it can still be lightweight plastic, Brandi Hayes: Mm. Carol Kornfeld: you know? Madonna Lindsey: Right. Carol Kornfeld: Something that's easily moulded and produced. Brandi Hayes: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys. Natalie Parker: No uh uh Brandi Hayes: Um, right, okay we've got half an hour before the next meeting, so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. Um I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation. Natalie Parker: Just just a quick thing about Brandi Hayes: Sure. Natalie Parker: the um about what you're saying about the uh does does it need to be fashionable? The sort of I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh we put the fashion into electronics, Carol Kornfeld: Ah Natalie Parker: so Carol Kornfeld: right. Natalie Parker: I think Madonna Lindsey: Okay. Brandi Hayes: Okay. Natalie Parker: think the Carol Kornfeld: Okay. Natalie Parker: whole design thing might be qui Carol Kornfeld: Sure Natalie Parker: I mean Carol Kornfeld: b Natalie Parker: you don't you Carol Kornfeld: y yeah. Natalie Parker: you can still have plastic and it'd look quite Carol Kornfeld: But Natalie Parker: good but Carol Kornfeld: yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be that, you know th that was my main point, Natalie Parker: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: we don't have to use metal, I don't know if using Brandi Hayes: Mm. Carol Kornfeld: plastic does make it cheaper, I presume it would. Natalie Parker: Yeah. Carol Kornfeld: Yeah, Brandi Hayes: I would Natalie Parker: Yeah. Brandi Hayes: it Carol Kornfeld: yeah, Brandi Hayes: would probably. Carol Kornfeld: yeah. Brandi Hayes: I mean there's Sky remote controls and everything. They're kind of moulded and look a bit different, and the Telewest remote controls are silver plastic, which Carol Kornfeld: Right. Brandi Hayes: looks a bit smarter, so yeah I guess that's stuff we can think Carol Kornfeld: Okay. Brandi Hayes: about. Okay, so let's break it up there. Carol Kornfeld: 'Kay. Brandi Hayes: Okay? Natalie Parker: Okay. Brandi Hayes: So, see you in half an hour. Carol Kornfeld: back to our room? Brandi Hayes: I think Madonna Lindsey: Mm, Brandi Hayes: so, Madonna Lindsey: yeah. Carol Kornfeld: Yep? Brandi Hayes: yeah.

Brandi Hayes gave an introduction to the goal of the project, to create a trendy yet user-friendly remote. She presented a long-range agenda for the whole project. The group introduced themselves to each other and practiced with the meeting room tools by drawing on the board. Brandi Hayes presented the project budget, the projected price point, and the projected profit aim for the project. Then the group began a discussion about their own experiences with remote controls to generate initial design ideas for making the product user-friendly. They discussed grouping features into a menu and adding an LCD display. They also discussed the look of various materials that may be used in the design, in keeping with the company's goal to create fashionable electronics.

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Betty Sulla: Help. It's up there? That screen's black. Betty Sulla: Alright, okay. Okay, that's fine. Doreen Pray: Oh God. Betty Sulla: Are we done? Betty Sulla: Right, okay um, this is our second meeting and I might be a bit all over the place. Um, right our agenda for today, do you want us to give you a second? Doreen Pray: Uh, no that's okay, sorry. Betty Sulla: Okay, um I'll go over what we decided last meeting, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: um, we decided upon a universal control, one handset for all, T_V_, video equipment. Sara Brasil: Sorry. Betty Sulla: Um that important that the product was accessible to a wide range of consumers, wide age range, not limiting anyone. We decided it was important to reflect the company's image in our product, we put fashion in electronics, you know that kind of s thing. Um, our budget would have to affect um try not to reflect our budget, um that we might have a bit of oh oh you can see it, okay. Um dissonance between what our budget was and what we want it to look like. Um want it to look uncluttered, undaunting to the customer. We discussed a flip-open design, um reducing the size of the control and an electronic panel um for further features like programming, things like that. Okay. Um, three presentations, I've got written here so shall we hear from Marketing first? Doreen Pray: Um is it okay if I postpone that til later, I just want to get access to a little bit more information, Betty Sulla: No Doreen Pray: is that Betty Sulla: that's Doreen Pray: okay? Betty Sulla: fine, that's fine. Markita Smith: Okay, yeah I'll go first Can. I grab the Betty Sulla: Unplug Doreen Pray. Markita Smith: Thanks. Markita Smith: What do I have to press? Oh, F_ eight? Betty Sulla: Um, F_N_ function F_ Markita Smith: Oh Betty Sulla: eight. Markita Smith: right, yeah. Okay. Maybe Sara Brasil: Yep. Markita Smith: Yep there we go. Okay this is uh the working design, presented by Doreen Pray, the uh Industrial Designer extraordinaire. 'Kay, this is where I went a bit mad with PowerPoint so. What the first thing question I asked was what are we trying to design? Well, a device which basically sends the signal to the T_V_ to change its state, whether that be the power, or the channel um or the volume, everything is just um some sort of signal to change the state of the T_V_ or other appliance that it's sending the signal to. Um, so I decided I'd have a look at what th other people have designed and try and take some inspiration from that. But uh although we will want to be taking ideas from other people, we wanna make sure that our design stands out and I thought that was something that well it wasn't really my area because I'm dealing with the inside really. So um, yeah I ran out of time so I couldn't do this one as fun as the last one. Um and uh I found out that most uh controls use some form of infrared to send signals to the T_V_ presumably because of the cost issue of uh something like uh the same thing that computers use, wireless and, you don't need to send very much information. Um, most of them are powered by some form of battery. Now our one, I'm I'm not sure whether we want to look at the size issue because most of them are powered by triple A_ batteries but those can be quite bulky so I d I didn't know if you wanted to look at something else um so we could shrink down the size Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Could Markita Smith: of the Doreen Pray: I Markita Smith: control. Doreen Pray: can I interject to ask a question Betty Sulla: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: Yeah Doreen Pray: there, is Markita Smith: sure. Doreen Pray: that appropriate? You're saying the triple A_ batteries are small or Markita Smith: Um Doreen Pray: the Markita Smith: no no, Doreen Pray: surrounding Markita Smith: if you Doreen Pray: it? Markita Smith: if you look at if you look at most remote controls they're quite they're quite chunky and Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: that's because of the size of the batteries, they have to be obviously this certain size to fit those Doreen Pray: Right, Markita Smith: batteries Doreen Pray: the triple Markita Smith: in. Doreen Pray: A_s are the smallest you can Markita Smith: Yeah Doreen Pray: get Markita Smith: the Doreen Pray: are they not, Markita Smith: the Betty Sulla: They Markita Smith: well Doreen Pray: right? Betty Sulla: are. Sara Brasil: Okay. Markita Smith: you can you can get the sort of circular round ones Doreen Pray: Oh Markita Smith: but I'm just Doreen Pray: I see. Markita Smith: wondering about power consumption and how much you need to send Doreen Pray: Okay. Markita Smith: the data across. Um, and d which leads sort of onto the next point about 'em being small and easy to carry round. Um, now the ones at the moment are small but I was just wondering if we could look at something a bit smaller. Now the main components I came up with um were obviously the power source for the batteries 'cause otherwise it's not gonna work, uh as I said about the w which batteries we were gonna choose, we can uh discuss that later and then you obviously need something to decode the information that you're putting in from from the controller and to turn it into an i uh infrared signal which we're going to use to send the information. Now these have a wireless range of up to about five metres which is sort of suitable for anyone who's watching the T_V_ unless they're in a cinema, which not most people do so as we're applying to the most audience that should be fine. And then I was uh just had a quick look at the external design but I d I left that mostly to the uh interface designer. And so this is what I had as the basic idea of what we wanna do. It's not a proper circuit, I'm not sure if it'd work or not, I'm not even confident that those are the real um the real way you'd wire it up but anyway, we've just got the the power going to the infrared bulb with the chip and the uh U_I_ interface um which would basically, when you when you pressed anything it would the chip would convert it into some form of I_R_ data which could be decoded by the T_V_ receiver, which obviously means that we're gonna have to conform to whatever um whatever form of communication that the T_V_s are already using and since that that's another use and reason to use that infrared because that's what all T_V_s use at the moment. And then finally, um we want uh the it to be available to a wide audience at a low cost so all the components that I've put forward are uh low in cost so that that should be good. Um it should should be different enough um from the alternative products to get a good consumer base, we were talking about it before and also just something that I was thinking about, uh because they're small Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: they're also easy to lose so if we could look into some way of d dunno some anti-going down the side of the sofa Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: thing that you could have, I th that was just sort of a general point there. Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: And Doreen Pray: That's Markita Smith: that's Doreen Pray: a very important Markita Smith: uh Doreen Pray: part, it came up Markita Smith: yeah. Doreen Pray: in our market research findings too so I can refer to that, Markita Smith: Alright okay, Doreen Pray: whenever you like Doreen Pray to present. Markita Smith: and yeah, that's that's what I came up with there, so Betty Sulla: Okay, Markita Smith: if Betty Sulla: thank Markita Smith: you wanna Betty Sulla: you very much. Um, would you like to continue Sara Brasil: Yep Betty Sulla: on from that? Markita Smith: Ooh. Sara Brasil: 'Kay. Betty Sulla: Or, Sara Brasil: It can be Betty Sulla: maybe move the laptop Sara Brasil: okay, that's Betty Sulla: over. Sara Brasil: okay with Doreen Pray. further. Sara Brasil: Oops. Sara Brasil: Why's it not working? F_ eight, right? Betty Sulla: F_ function. Markita Smith: Function F_ eight yeah. Sara Brasil: Okay. Mm Doreen Pray: No. Sara Brasil: why's it in the right? Doreen Pray: The plug hasn't come out at the Sara Brasil: Yeah, Doreen Pray: bottom, Sara Brasil: it's Doreen Pray: has Sara Brasil: connecting. Doreen Pray: it? No. Markita Smith: No, no yeah it's just. Doreen Pray: Meter adjusting. Betty Sulla: Oh, there. Sara Brasil: okay. Yeah. Actually mm some of my points might overlap with what William's Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: just mention, but basically my method was like uh whatever brainstorming we did in the last meeting just a couple valuable points and started developing on and there might be some missing loops in this thing which I think we'll uh take a feedback from the marketing because um, I haven't had some marketing data and basically every product is marketable. So purpose, as William already said, I would put it to simplify the interaction with T_V_ to make make it as simple as possible. And to summarise I I would say it's it should be user-friendly by being easy to use, rather than having a lot of complex button because you can have an engineering maybe having hundred buttons and maybe having uh a remote control which has the main features like volume control or channel ch changing the channel or whatever. But we are to to make it unique so that people want to buy it, will this two features together. So what the concept is to have a flip-top model. The main functions such as which are like often used will be on the top and the complex functions which say you you can say like the y young generation or trendy generation want to pr say programme their favourite channels or whatever, can be put in the middle part of the f flip-top. So it's like it could be accessed by a wide ra range of uh audience and we can punch in new f features such as uh added features such as shock proof body and maybe a design to appeal to a lot of people. Findings most people prefer us user-friendly rather than complex remote controls because there are times like uh people have used a remote control for say a year or something and they they are not used maybe thirty to forty percent of the buttons so it's not of no use of punching in the uh trying to put in those things in on the top of the remote control and try to confuse the user. As we saw we we have to make a profit also so we we can maybe go for an economies of a higher production mm by fifty million we said? Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: Yeah, with that I think we'll be able to achieve economies of scale also, so we can give in add in more features and make it less costly. Um, that's so this is if you ask Doreen Pray personally, I would make uh flip-top with a trendy uh uh design and s maybe we we should look at also like the buttons whe whether they are like soft or little hard because they are Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: times when the buttons tend to be a bit hard after uh continuous use usage and all that. So in overall a simple and uh user-friendly design. Doreen Pray: Mm. Sara Brasil: Uh any Betty Sulla: 'Kay. Sara Brasil: comments like, if you want? Betty Sulla: Um, I think we'll chat about it at the end, Sara Brasil: Okay. Betty Sulla: okay so if anyone wants to write something down that they want to bring up at the end, Doreen Pray: 'Kay. Markita Smith: Yeah sure. Betty Sulla: um Ooh, it's vibrating, that's strange. Oh, God. Betty Sulla: Right, okay. Doreen Pray: Have I got Sara Brasil: I Doreen Pray: to keep Sara Brasil: think Doreen Pray: this Sara Brasil: you'll Doreen Pray: here? Sara Brasil: have to You can't Doreen Pray: Does it matter? Sara Brasil: It'll have to this can't Doreen Pray: I'll Sara Brasil: be Doreen Pray: have Sara Brasil: pulled. Doreen Pray: t I'll have to move Betty Sulla: We just Doreen Pray: it Betty Sulla: do Doreen Pray: won't Betty Sulla: the best we Doreen Pray: I? Betty Sulla: can. Doreen Pray: Uh, whoops. Sara Brasil: You'll have to push it a bit more. Doreen Pray: Will it manage? Bit more, oh Sara Brasil: Yep. Doreen Pray: dear. Sara Brasil: Yeah this is more than enough. Markita Smith: There we go, Sara Brasil: Okay. Markita Smith: I've got a bit more of the Doreen Pray: Oh. Markita Smith: cable. we go. Doreen Pray: Is that okay? Sara Brasil: Yeah I think you can pull it out now. Doreen Pray: Thank you, just pull it closer a little bit. Markita Smith: Uh you should be able to Betty Sulla: Yeah, Markita Smith: and Betty Sulla: you Doreen Pray: Get Betty Sulla: might. Doreen Pray: it right Markita Smith: yeah, Doreen Pray: over, Markita Smith: there Doreen Pray: okay, Markita Smith: you Doreen Pray: thank you. Betty Sulla: Ah. Markita Smith: go. Betty Sulla: Look at that. Doreen Pray: Okay, um, I'm going to look at the functional requirements from the marketing point of view and uh obviously our starting point with marketing is always market research. Um, so that's where we started, we used our our usability lab, the company's usability lab, we did our usual selection methods to get a cross-section of the general public, male and female, all age groups from fifteen upwards and um we observed them in the lab, just their general use of the remote control, you can see we had a hundred subjects there. Our findings, lots of findings, I've just summarised some of them here. The overall thing which I've I've got at the top there in italics is that users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls, so it has obvious design implications there. Um, we found that seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. Eighty percent would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy, we were quite surprised by that finding, but um that's quite a high proportion of our our, you know, international target group are prepared to spend more money for something that's a bit nicer looking. Um, current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user overall. For example, you can see below there, seventy five percent of users zap a lot, so you've got your Sara Brasil: Yeah. Doreen Pray: person sunk back in the sofa channel-hopping. So again there's power implications there. Um, fifty percent of users only use ten percent of the buttons, so again a big design issue there. Um and possibly we can also cut back on cost if we don't have so many functions actually on the remote control. Um the biggest frustrations that people found with regard to personal preferences were um something that you you mentioned earlier, uh remote controls are often lost in the room, it's a slipping down the back of the sofa type of thing, uh fifty percent were were particularly frustrated by that. Uh thirty four percent of people take said they take too much time to learn to use and I think that ties in with the um the previous finding of people only using ten percent of the buttons, they just can't be bothered to learn about the other functions. Um, um slightly more than a quarter of people said it was bad for uh repetitive strain injury. You know those small movements of the remote control can lead to kind of shoulder and elbow problems. Um the vast majority of the thirty five and under age group would like um a liquid crystal display and speech recognition, again that was to aid I think in uh when they've lost the actual remote control, some kind of speech recognition. Something we didn't put to them, but which I'm thinking of now is um even if perhaps the lost control can give off a bleep every now and again til you find it or a flashing light, possibly. Um, that trend reverses in the older age groups. So thirty fives and unders who would like those two features, that kind of evens out thirty five to forty five and in the older age group it kind of reverses, they're not so bothered with this. I Sara Brasil: 'Kay. Doreen Pray: had marvellous tables and things that I could show you, but I think I'll just keep it simple, if there's any more information I can email you extra details, Betty Sulla: Okay. Doreen Pray: is that Markita Smith: Okay. Doreen Pray: okay? Betty Sulla: Yeah. Sara Brasil: That's fine. Betty Sulla: Right, Markita Smith: Huh. Betty Sulla: um we have new project requirements, um we're not going to be using teletext, Sara Brasil: Okay. Betty Sulla: um apparently the consumers consider it outdated with the internet now. Um our control is only going to be for T_V_, it's not going to be a combined control, which limits you know all of the different things that it limits the cost for us, but it Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: also makes it easier to understand Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm, Betty Sulla: for Doreen Pray: so Betty Sulla: the Doreen Pray: can we not Betty Sulla: consumer. Doreen Pray: programme a video with this remote control? Betty Sulla: It says for T_V_ only, so looks like it's Doreen Pray: Just Betty Sulla: just Doreen Pray: channel-hopping. Betty Sulla: yeah, I think maybe Sky things like that might be incorporated into it, but I don't know, what do you think? It just said, for T_V_ only. Doreen Pray: Would Betty Sulla: But Doreen Pray: that Betty Sulla: I mean, Doreen Pray: imply Betty Sulla: general Doreen Pray: video Betty Sulla: T_V_ Doreen Pray: use? Betty Sulla: controls Markita Smith: T yeah yeah. Betty Sulla: do do video as well. Markita Smith: I d well I dunno Betty Sulla: I mean you Markita Smith: 'cause Betty Sulla: bu Markita Smith: uh Betty Sulla: well Markita Smith: the Betty Sulla: som Markita Smith: w if Betty Sulla: you Markita Smith: you've Betty Sulla: get Markita Smith: g Betty Sulla: com you get combined T_V_ and videos don't Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: you? Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm, Markita Smith: If yeah and if Doreen Pray: yes. Markita Smith: you got if you got a Sky box, they have one of those plus boxes, you can record straight off the T_V_ anyway Betty Sulla: Mm. Markita Smith: so on to on to like the T_V_ hard drive or so. Betty Sulla: I think we assume that it's still got play and stop functions and Doreen Pray: Yes. Betty Sulla: programming. Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: Anything about that on the market research or something like regarding whether people want a combined something like that? Doreen Pray: Um we didn't really look into that but remember we found that finding that most people only use about uh Betty Sulla: Mm. Sara Brasil: Ten Doreen Pray: ten Sara Brasil: perc Doreen Pray: percent of the buttons, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Doreen Pray: I think th th those do tend to be the basic channel-hopping things and Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: on and off for the video, fast-forwarding, so on and I think it's sort of general knowledge that people do find programming their videos a nightmare. Sara Brasil: Okay. Betty Sulla: Hmm. Doreen Pray: So I. Markita Smith: Ju um just as an idea on the uh speech recognition thing Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: that pr it'd probably be quite expensive Sara Brasil: Pens Markita Smith: to incorporate an entire speech recognition thing and they're not that great Doreen Pray: In fact Markita Smith: anyway. Doreen Pray: I've just called up that table there, Markita Smith: Alright, okay. Doreen Pray: we asked those two questions, table relates to both questions, so we didn't differentiate. Would you prefer an L_C_D_ screen, that's multi-function remote and would you pay Markita Smith: Alright, Doreen Pray: more for Markita Smith: okay. Doreen Pray: speech recognition in a remote control? So you can see how the the yes no sort Betty Sulla: Mm-hmm. Doreen Pray: of varies Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: across the age group there, and a substantial number of don't knows in the older age group, I think that's just general fear of new technology. Betty Sulla: Yeah, Markita Smith: Yeah Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: but um Betty Sulla: bu Markita Smith: on on that again I just thought 'cause you can get those key chains now and you whistle and then it'll Doreen Pray: Oh Markita Smith: let Doreen Pray: yeah. Markita Smith: off a loud noise to let you know where it is Doreen Pray: Right. Markita Smith: so I thought that could be quite a Betty Sulla: We do have a budget limitation that we can't control ourselves, so I think when we can take a cheaper option which still does the Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: same kinda thing um because it is something I it needs to be the thing that you use to find it needs to be something that you don't lose, you were Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: saying whistling, Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: maybe on the T_V_ you could put like a pack on the T_V_ or something so you can't see the remote, you go and press the button on top of the T_V_ and it beeps and Doreen Pray: Yes. Betty Sulla: you're Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: like oh Sara Brasil: Okay. Betty Sulla: okay it's over there, Doreen Pray: That's Betty Sulla: something Doreen Pray: a super idea. Betty Sulla: like that, but Markita Smith: Hmm. Betty Sulla: that's that sounds a lot cheaper to Doreen Pray. Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: Yeah. Betty Sulla: Um the third thing was that we have to make sure the corporate image is very much incorporated into the handset. Um so we want logo, we want um fashionable, trendy, I mean what you were talking about with the marketing. Um, people paying more for it to look good. Um, we need to focus on that as well. Doreen Pray: Yes, further market research will be needed to kind of focus on what that is, it's gonna be different for a fifteen year old th for somebody who's sixty Betty Sulla: Yeah. Doreen Pray: and also across the world if we're aiming at the international market. What is um attractive to a trendy New Yorker and what is attractive to a retired South African, Betty Sulla: Mm. Doreen Pray: I dunno, you get the idea. It's it's gonna vary around the world. At the end of the day, th the engineering design is one thing, it's the user interface design that may and th the sort of Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: you know fashionable aspect of it we might have to change for different markets round the world. Betty Sulla: Yeah. Sara Brasil: So are we talking of a single model or maybe five, six designs? Sure. Markita Smith: Well y yeah you could you could have a number of different designs Sara Brasil: Alright. Markita Smith: I mean inside they'd be essentially exactly the same. Sara Brasil: Right. Betty Sulla: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: Just Sara Brasil: The features Doreen Pray: Yeah. Sara Brasil: could be same and the body could look Markita Smith: yeah, Sara Brasil: slightly different. Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: yeah. Sara Brasil: So Betty Sulla: What about you were talking about the buttons, Sara Brasil: Yeah. Betty Sulla: um the controls that are coming out now have kind of big, rubber buttons, not tiny little one, big, rubber buttons, but what about, I mean, 'cause we got to make it original, Markita Smith: 'Kay. Betty Sulla: what about um you know with the touch screen Markita Smith: Yeah, Betty Sulla: computers Markita Smith: yeah that's what I was just Betty Sulla: yeah? Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: Um so you it's like a little panel that you touch rather than a button which shouldn't wear out as much either, not Markita Smith: No, Betty Sulla: sure about Markita Smith: well no Betty Sulla: the Markita Smith: 'cause you wouldn't have to you don't actually Betty Sulla: You Markita Smith: have Betty Sulla: don't Markita Smith: to press Betty Sulla: have to press Markita Smith: them you Betty Sulla: it, Markita Smith: just Betty Sulla: you just have to put your thumb onto it. Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: Um, think that might appeal I'm thinking kind of Japan, I'm thinking uh young, um Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: office people, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: trendy Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: kind Doreen Pray: Yes Betty Sulla: of a thing. Doreen Pray: it will appeal to sections of the market Betty Sulla: Um, Doreen Pray: def Betty Sulla: but quite, um, easily labelled so that anyone can oh yeah that's obvious what that's for Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: and it's not daunting to maybe the older Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm, Betty Sulla: generations, Markita Smith: Mm. Doreen Pray: mm. Markita Smith: But Betty Sulla: um Markita Smith: also er ergonomics as we're saying with the different designs, ergonomics uh there's sort of physically different things 'cause um if you've ever seen the X_ Box they had to make two different sized controllers because people in Japan wouldn't buy it because the controller Betty Sulla: Were too Markita Smith: was Betty Sulla: big. Markita Smith: physically to big because um they're c uh just generally Japanese people have smaller hands Betty Sulla: Mm. Markita Smith: so they couldn't get round the controller which is uh so if you I don't know what 'cause you obviously you can have bigger buttons for some countries or something and smaller ones for others. Sara Brasil: Yeah, uh maybe to as uh it it was indicated that uh uh risk uh of uh repeated use, the injuries, maybe a touch screen could be a better option for that. Markita Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Sara Brasil: So, a bigger b okay so y you're dividing designs based on not only segment age groups, you're desi uh dividing it according to the countries also, the market. Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Sara Brasil: Maybe for U_S_ and all you can have a slightly bigger remote Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: control and maybe in Japan and all you need to have a small, Markita Smith: Hmm. Sara Brasil: yeah. Betty Sulla: I think we have to design Markita Smith: Huh. Betty Sulla: one product Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: and then the company can take it wherever they want to uh Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: the features slightly, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: um. Doreen Pray: Th the internal d engineering design has got to remain the same, Betty Sulla: It's Doreen Pray: yes, Betty Sulla: gonna be the same, Doreen Pray: absolutely. Betty Sulla: so we need to focus on just one thing, Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: not get bogged down in lots of different um possibilities, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: um. Doreen Pray: I'm concerned, when you read the the R_S_I_ issue again, repetitive strain injury, I don't think just moving your finger around on a small screen is going to deal with that enough, I think that is still a kind of a question mark issue how we deal with that. Um, Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: R_S_I_ tends to be caused by repetitive small movements. I'm j I really can't get my head round this one, this may Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: have to be postponed to a future meeting but it's something we should think about. Markita Smith: I yeah I was just thinking about how you could combat that 'cause Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: without without doing something where you have to move your arm Doreen Pray: I Markita Smith: around Doreen Pray: know, and it Markita Smith: to Doreen Pray: becomes Markita Smith: change the Doreen Pray: ridiculous, Markita Smith: channel and it Doreen Pray: yes Markita Smith: becomes yeah. Betty Sulla: Or Doreen Pray: I know. Betty Sulla: a speech recognition, Markita Smith: Yeah, Doreen Pray: Yeah. Markita Smith: speech recognition, Betty Sulla: which Markita Smith: but Betty Sulla: is extremely expensive, Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: I Doreen Pray: Yes. Betty Sulla: think that's the only way that you kind of avoid Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: that kind of issue. Doreen Pray: Do we have to initially um, you know looking at the findings here, focus on a younger age group initially and then broaden out the market later. Do we really have to go for everyone right away? Markita Smith: Mm. Sara Brasil: We Doreen Pray: Um. Sara Brasil: could focus on the biggest market. Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: Ge Sara Brasil: If say Markita Smith: uh Sara Brasil: people between age group of twenty to thirty five are Doreen Pray: And when Sara Brasil: the biggest Doreen Pray: we've been throwing Sara Brasil: market? Doreen Pray: up our ideas we're automatically talking about business people, young people, trendy people. Betty Sulla: We are we're talking about um the type of company that we're working for as well. That they want um it to be fashionable, they want it to be trendy and you wouldn't automatically assume associate that with the older generations. Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: Now with the baby boomers, the older generations are actually larger, they have a greater population Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: than us young Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: people, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: but I don't think we're focusing on that, I think we are focusing on a sort of mid-range Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: um, business kind of class type Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: people. Doreen Pray: I'm just thinking of budgetary issues too, for when it does get to the sort of broad scale marketing stage, we want to, you know, not waste money, not be profligate Betty Sulla: Mm-hmm. Doreen Pray: and uh you know focus on where the idea will be taken up, first it's most likely to be taken up first of all where the main purchasing power is coming from for a product like this. Betty Sulla: Okay, so the remote control functions. Um we've got the T_V_, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: we've got the video, now there's um I can't remember what it's called, the little code at the end of programme details, Markita Smith: Video plus. Betty Sulla: yes. We could use that as an alternative to programming in times, things like that, Markita Smith: Yeah Betty Sulla: is Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: that I always found that really easy when I discovered Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: it, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: um because you've got your general record anyway so if you there's a programme on you want to put record on, that's fine, but if you do want to tape something Markita Smith: Just Betty Sulla: in Markita Smith: whack Betty Sulla: two days Markita Smith: in the Betty Sulla: time Markita Smith: number. Betty Sulla: and you're not sure if you're going to, you put the number in and it's just a number, it's not a date, it's not a time, it's not a channel, it's not when it finishes, it's not Markita Smith: And Betty Sulla: anything Markita Smith: you w Betty Sulla: like that, Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: it's just a number. Markita Smith: And you wouldn't you wouldn't need uh a whole host of extra buttons for that, you Betty Sulla: No. Markita Smith: just need one 'cause you've already got all the numbers Betty Sulla: You've already Markita Smith: there Betty Sulla: got Markita Smith: anyway, Betty Sulla: the numbers Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: for typing Doreen Pray: Right, Betty Sulla: in anyway. Doreen Pray: I've not come across that function but it sounds wonderful. Betty Sulla: It is after um if you look in the newspaper, Markita Smith: It's not Betty Sulla: T_V_ guide or any T_V_ guide there's a five, six Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: digit number afterwards and that's the number you put in Doreen Pray: Ah, Betty Sulla: and it's Doreen Pray: hmm. Betty Sulla: recorded that it's going to be on on Tuesdays at ten o'clock on the seventeenth so you don't have to worry about dates and you don't have to worry about times, Doreen Pray: Right. Betty Sulla: um and it has been around for quite Markita Smith: It's Betty Sulla: a Markita Smith: been Betty Sulla: long time. Markita Smith: been around for a long time it's just it's not very well advertised Betty Sulla: No Markita Smith: as Betty Sulla: it's not Markita Smith: to how Doreen Pray: Superb. Betty Sulla: um Markita Smith: to use it and Betty Sulla: but Markita Smith: things. Betty Sulla: I think if awareness was kind of Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: brought to the forefront about that Markita Smith: Mm. Doreen Pray: Yes. Markita Smith: Though if y if you've got something like Sky anyway you can just click on it you can just press the button on the programme once and it'll record that programme Betty Sulla: Mm. Doreen Pray: Right. Markita Smith: when it's on and you press it on it twice and it'll record the whole series. Doreen Pray: Excellent, mm-hmm. Markita Smith: So that yeah. Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: But just to have that function would Doreen Pray: Right. Markita Smith: be would be really good. Betty Sulla: Okay so Doreen Pray: Can I just run this past you while it occurs to Doreen Pray, I don't mean to quickly jump from one subject to another, but just discussing the different age groups and targeting the different age groups it occurs to Doreen Pray, to produce our own mobile phones, that that's kind of what led us on to comparing T_V_ remote controls with with their design features, um, chain companies like Carphone Warehouse, you can pop in anytime with a phone that you bought for them w if you've got any problems with it and they'll fix it, they'll Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: phone the company, you can use Betty Sulla: Mm-hmm. Doreen Pray: their telephones. Is it worthwhile with with our retail outlets having a a similar um kind of service so that if older users were deterred from buying this, if they know they can just pop into one of our high street outlets, th you know, which button is it I press for this? Th as free as a free aspect of our service, would that not make it more attractive to them? Markita Smith: Mm. But the only problem is that with a mobile phone you signed for a contract so they um the companies who uh who you deal with have actually they've they've got an obligation to Doreen Pray: Mm. Markita Smith: to help you out and Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: also I mean it's it's fair enough to have some sort of help service but I I'm not sure how much the cost would be of Doreen Pray: Right. Markita Smith: having Betty Sulla: The functionality of it in the sense that you're sitting there, you're pressing this button and your T_V_'s not doing it. Doreen Pray: Alright. Betty Sulla: Taking your T_V_ and your Doreen Pray: Yes Betty Sulla: control and saying look this is what I'm doing, it's not working, what should I do? Doreen Pray: If it was something as simple as you couldn't change the channel, but I mean for if there were any more or are we absolutely definite it's only gonna be for T_V_ and video, we're Markita Smith: Yeah, Doreen Pray: not Betty Sulla: I Markita Smith: I Doreen Pray: gonna Betty Sulla: think Markita Smith: mean Doreen Pray: put any Betty Sulla: so. Doreen Pray: okay, Betty Sulla: Um Doreen Pray: just a thought. Markita Smith: I mean instru instruction books I Betty Sulla: Instruction Markita Smith: feel c I Betty Sulla: manuals. Markita Smith: reckon Doreen Pray: Okay. Markita Smith: can Betty Sulla: But Markita Smith: cover Betty Sulla: I mean Markita Smith: that. Betty Sulla: they're there's customer service, there Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: will be a customer service number Markita Smith: Department, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: thing that you can phone up and speak to Doreen Pray: Sure. Betty Sulla: and that way there's no call out charge, there's no extra, t the person Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: has to walk to a shop Sara Brasil: Right. Betty Sulla: on the high street, Doreen Pray: Yeah. Sara Brasil: I think Betty Sulla: um. Sara Brasil: it will be too much of an effort for a person to for a phone maybe he might walk down the street, Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: but for a remote he will just refer Doreen Pray: Not Sara Brasil: to the Doreen Pray: for Sara Brasil: manual Doreen Pray: such Markita Smith: And they're Doreen Pray: simple Sara Brasil: and all that. Doreen Pray: functions Markita Smith: yeah, Doreen Pray: because Markita Smith: they Doreen Pray: we're Markita Smith: should Doreen Pray: focusing Markita Smith: be Betty Sulla: Mm. Markita Smith: f Doreen Pray: on that, yes Betty Sulla: But Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: we Doreen Pray: okay. Betty Sulla: should focus on making the manual as Sara Brasil: Simple. Betty Sulla: user-friendly Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: as possible Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: because a lot of them are just tiny Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: little writing and lots and lots of pages. Doreen Pray: Puts people off reading Markita Smith: It's the Doreen Pray: them Betty Sulla: It Markita Smith: uh Doreen Pray: so Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: does, Doreen Pray: they just do the Betty Sulla: you just Doreen Pray: obvious, Betty Sulla: put it in the Doreen Pray: yes. Betty Sulla: drawer until something goes wrong and then you try and search through it, so Doreen Pray: Sure, Betty Sulla: that should be something we think Doreen Pray: okay. Betty Sulla: about. Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: Um, what other functions? We need I'm not sure if we need a design um decision now, but we should think about c 'cause you've got the dilemma between oh batteries, that's what I was thinking about. Mobile phone batteries, what kinda battery is that? Markita Smith: Um they're they're specially made for the for the mobile phones, but they come with a charger, I mean you could you could bundle a charger Betty Sulla: Well they la Markita Smith: in with it Betty Sulla: they Markita Smith: but Betty Sulla: they last quite a long time, Markita Smith: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: and if you had uh when you th the thing that you get with mobile house phones, Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: you sit it in its charger when you're not using it or Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: t at Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: night or something, but it doesn't really matter 'cause it never really runs out 'cause it lasts a long time once Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: it is charged. Um, something like that should reduce Markita Smith: Yeah Betty Sulla: the Markita Smith: and Betty Sulla: size Markita Smith: if Betty Sulla: of it. Markita Smith: yeah if you if you had if you had one of those uh just coming back to your other point about pressing the button and setting off the bleeper in the room that could uh Betty Sulla: Yeah it could be on that Markita Smith: Yeah on Betty Sulla: yeah, Markita Smith: that as well so. Betty Sulla: okay. S Sara Brasil: So are we talking of a concept of a rechargeable something Markita Smith: Yeah Sara Brasil: on Markita Smith: some Sara Brasil: the remote? Markita Smith: sort Betty Sulla: Yes. Markita Smith: of docking station or Betty Sulla: Rechargeable Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: with a docking station. Markita Smith: yeah. Betty Sulla: So the rechargeable which would be your Markita Smith: Yeah yeah Betty Sulla: field. Markita Smith: th yeah that that'd be fine, Betty Sulla: Okay. Markita Smith: and also that would mean they wouldn't have to go out buying batteries all the time. Betty Sulla: Yes, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Sara Brasil: Right. Betty Sulla: which it is cheaper in the long Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: run as well. Um, th the shape you got trendy. I don't wanna big box with lots of things, you don't want a tiny sort of Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: little thing either, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: because then you have got the repetitive strain injury no matter how many Doreen Pray: Mm. Betty Sulla: how much you try and make it simple, um Doreen Pray: And we don't w I mean so many remote controls look absolutely identical, these Betty Sulla: They Doreen Pray: long, Betty Sulla: do. Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: brown things with the same coloured buttons all crammed in on the s the surface. We definitely an ob an obvious thing, a very simple thing is to get away from these brown rectangles, we don't want that. Betty Sulla: Okay so we've got Sara Brasil: Okay. Betty Sulla: a flip-screen. Um Sara Brasil: What I was thinking of a design which Nokia h uh came up with almost six or seven years back. Basically we have a flat one it it looks like a box, Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: like a chocolate. That's very strenuous because your thumb is slightly up, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Sara Brasil: so they came up with something like this, curled up, so here, so it's like uh you can say a Doreen Pray: Slightly Sara Brasil: banana Doreen Pray: curved, Sara Brasil: shape kind of thing, curled Doreen Pray: curved. Sara Brasil: up Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: like a boat. Betty Sulla: Okay. Sara Brasil: G uh so what happens is you don't have to press your thumb too down like. So it's already Doreen Pray: Mm. Sara Brasil: curled up so Betty Sulla: 'Cause it's Sara Brasil: your Betty Sulla: kind Sara Brasil: thumb Betty Sulla: of moulded Sara Brasil: doesn't y Betty Sulla: to your hand Sara Brasil: yeah Betty Sulla: anyway. Doreen Pray: Mm. Sara Brasil: so we can have a s like you know moulded according to your Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: the way you h hold of it's kind of semi-circular in the bottom, something like that. Betty Sulla: Okay. Sara Brasil: I wouldn't say exactly semi-circular but Betty Sulla: Can Sara Brasil: yeah smooth. Betty Sulla: you look into the company logo? Um, things that are associated with the company in view to trying to incorporate that into the design of the product. Sara Brasil: Current. Betty Sulla: I mean for example, if it was a C_ or something like that, you could have it in a vague C_ shape that opens up kind Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: of like a shell, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: or something, um something along those lines to be able to incorporate it quite um obviously into the design, while also making it quite different from anything else that's there. Sara Brasil: We could look in at Doreen Pray: I mean Sara Brasil: that Doreen Pray: look Sara Brasil: but Doreen Pray: at the mobile. Markita Smith: Mm. Sara Brasil: Mm. What we were talking is to make it more rather than like sea-shells, logo could become as you could put a logo in the corner of uh the model, rather than you know, trying to make it like a sea shell or whatever you were ta telling like. Betty Sulla: Well we need to think about how it's gonna look different. Doreen Pray: I think that's that sounds a really attractive idea, I've Sara Brasil: A Doreen Pray: not Sara Brasil: sea Doreen Pray: come Sara Brasil: shell? Doreen Pray: across anything like that before, if it kind of yeah and that opens out into your flip-top. Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: Then it's nice t to h you can make it lightweight plastic, nice to hold in the palm of the hand and just because you're having to actually insert in between the two covers, that's gonna take care of some of the repetitive strain injury trying p prevent a lot of that I would think. I think it's a really nice idea Sara Brasil: Yeah Doreen Pray: and Sara Brasil: we could look in at Doreen Pray: plus Sara Brasil: that. Doreen Pray: you can get you know even though we're using plastic, you can still I mean think of the designs you can get in plastic, we can do a nice conch shell or scallop shell exterior. Betty Sulla: Or you could do um different, like you get with mobile phones, different fascias. Markita Smith: Mm. Betty Sulla: You Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: could have different kind of casings. Doreen Pray: Yeah. Betty Sulla: So you could have like psychedelic ones Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: for younger people and sleek ones and Doreen Pray: Less chance of it being lost too, it's not like a chocolate brown lozenge that's gonna go down the sofa Betty Sulla: Yeah. Doreen Pray: and people might want to put it on their mantelpiece or whatever as a ki if it looks attractive enough as a kind of ornament they don't not gonna lose it so much either. It's easier to bit nice to handle. Betty Sulla: Mm. Sara Brasil: Yeah maybe we could come at some say five, six des designs and then choose which are whichever Betty Sulla: Okay. Sara Brasil: appeals the Markita Smith: Yeah. Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Sara Brasil: most like, that Betty Sulla: Okay. Sara Brasil: could be the most common design. Doreen Pray: Okay. Betty Sulla: Okay. Sara Brasil: But we can like think of five, six designs. Betty Sulla: Right, I think we have to round it up, um Doreen Pray: Can I just quickly Betty Sulla: Sure. Doreen Pray: um go over the new project requirements so that I haven't missed anything. So it's no teletext, it's only for T_V_ and by implication video, Sara Brasil: Mm-hmm. Doreen Pray: our corporate image should be incorporated in the remote control, um something about Videoplus. Betty Sulla: That was um in cutting down the number that was kinda separate that was cutting down the number Doreen Pray: Right. Betty Sulla: of functions, Doreen Pray: Right. Betty Sulla: making it simpler so instead of having lots of Doreen Pray: Right, Betty Sulla: things Doreen Pray: so Betty Sulla: you Doreen Pray: when Betty Sulla: put Doreen Pray: they Betty Sulla: in Doreen Pray: press Betty Sulla: for date Doreen Pray: for programming you it comes up on the L_C_D_, a reminder about using Videoplus? So that they have a look at the guide and Or was is this nothing to do with the project requirements, is this just that was an add-on feature? Betty Sulla: It's kinda takes the place of Doreen Pray: Uh-huh. Betty Sulla: having a button to press for the date and having the Doreen Pray: Right. Betty Sulla: button to press for the channel, things like Doreen Pray: Right, Betty Sulla: that. Doreen Pray: so it's Betty Sulla: Um Doreen Pray: kind of doing away Betty Sulla: it could Doreen Pray: with Betty Sulla: be Doreen Pray: the programming Betty Sulla: it c Doreen Pray: feature? Betty Sulla: It Markita Smith: Yeah. Betty Sulla: yes, Doreen Pray: Right. Betty Sulla: it could be uh adv advertisement feature, um rather than design feature, you know, drawing attention to that. And it also paid um lip service in the instruction manual, 'cause it's very simple so putting it down in words should be helpful. Doreen Pray: Mm, and the rechargeable batteries. Betty Sulla: Yeah. Doreen Pray: Was there anything else there that we in the new Betty Sulla: Um Doreen Pray: new project requirements? Sara Brasil: Yeah. Betty Sulla: We've got the buttons but I think we'll Sara Brasil: Yeah. Betty Sulla: work through that with the design of it, Doreen Pray: Mm-hmm. Betty Sulla: um. Doreen Pray: That's not at the moment a requirement, it's something we're looking at, Betty Sulla: Yes. Doreen Pray: what preference Betty Sulla: Yes. Doreen Pray: so it may come round to market research at some point Betty Sulla: And Doreen Pray: to see Betty Sulla: we've Doreen Pray: what Betty Sulla: talked Doreen Pray: people Betty Sulla: about Doreen Pray: would like. Betty Sulla: um there being an alarm or something, a beeping Sara Brasil: For Markita Smith: Yeah. Sara Brasil: detection, Betty Sulla: for being lost, Sara Brasil: right. Betty Sulla: um. Learning how to use it should be as simple as possible. But there aren't gonna be that func that many functions incorporated into it so it should be fine and the I the instruction manual, I don't know if we deal with that, um. I think Yep, Sara Brasil: Yep, Betty Sulla: and different Sara Brasil: I think Betty Sulla: from what's out there. Doreen Pray: Okay. Betty Sulla: Yep, I think that's us. Doreen Pray: What would you Sara Brasil: True. Doreen Pray: specifically Markita Smith: Okay. Doreen Pray: like marketing to look at before the next meeting? Or shall I just sort of generally look at all the issues involved? Betty Sulla: I think you might get guidance, but um I th Instruction manuals, 'cause Doreen Pray: Okay. Betty Sulla: there tends to be a demonised thing, u um, they're everyone's got like a big pile of them, but no one really uses them. Doreen Pray: Okay. Betty Sulla: Um. Doreen Pray: Whoops, Sara Brasil: Oops. Doreen Pray: questionnaire Sara Brasil: We should f Doreen Pray: four. Betty Sulla: Yes, right. Doreen Pray: 'Cause we're Betty Sulla: Okay. Doreen Pray: at Sara Brasil: I Doreen Pray: lunchtime Sara Brasil: think it's time Doreen Pray: now Sara Brasil: for Doreen Pray: I think. Sara Brasil: us to get back to Betty Sulla: Right, okay. I think you can email Doreen Pray, if there's any more questions. 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Markita Smith gave his presentation on the basic functions of the remote. He presented the basic components that remotes share and suggested that smaller batteries be considered in the product design. Sara Brasil presented his ideas for making the remote easy-to-use; he discussed using a simple design and hiding complicated features from the main interface. Doreen Pray presented the findings from a lab study on user requirements for a remote control device, and discussed users' demand for a simple interface and advanced technology. Betty Sulla presented the new requirements that the remote not include a teletext function, that it be used only to control television, and that it include the company image in its design. The group narrowed down their target marketing group to the youth market. They discussed the functions the remote will have, including Video Plus capability and rechargeable batteries. A customer service plan was suggested to make the remote seem more user-friendly, but it was decided that helpful manuals were more within the budget. The group then discussed the shell-like shape of the remote and including several different casing options to buyers.

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Luz Washington: I'll wait until you're all um hooked up. Lorraine Ramos: Oh good grief. 'Kay. Luz Washington: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: Oh. Luz Washington: Put it on in that Joyce Bludworth: Oops. Luz Washington: way. Thanks. Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: Mm. Luz Washington: Welcome back everybody, Joyce Bludworth: After lunch. Luz Washington: hope you've had fun. Joyce Bludworth: Yeah. Luz Washington: Right um this is our conceptual design meeting, Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: um I think we're slightly ahead of ourselves from the last meeting, Kristine Cork: Yeah, Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: I Kristine Cork: yeah Luz Washington: th Kristine Cork: I was getting that Luz Washington: I Kristine Cork: impression as Luz Washington: I Kristine Cork: well. Luz Washington: think Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Luz Washington: yeah um. This is where we talk about um properties, materials, user-interface and Kristine Cork: Etcetera. Luz Washington: trend-watching. Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: So I think we've touched on a few things to do with that already, but we'll just go. Um the minutes from the last time. Um we had a couple of um changes in our plans in that we couldn't use teletext, it wasn't gonna be a control for everything um and that we had to incorporate the image of the company into it somehow. Um we have decided on a leaving out the voice recognition, we've decided on there being a flip design and um a different shape from what's normal. We were thinking a shell, but something along those lines, just a different shape from what's normal, um. You were going to look into the rechargeable batteries Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: and we were gonna think about the port and an alarm for getting it lost, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: things like that, um and our market was going to be young, business, kind of range. Joyce Bludworth: 'Kay. Luz Washington: Okay, so shall we start with the first presentation? Lorraine Ramos: Shall I? Joyce Bludworth: Yep. Luz Washington: Yes Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Luz Washington: if you feel Lorraine Ramos: We just connect up. Thank you. Lorraine Ramos: There we go. Okay um so we decided on our market and so this feedback from the marketing department is really about trend watching. Um the methods we used to decide on uh current trends and so on, market trends, were that we did our traditional uh our usual market research study uh with a hundred subjects and the the general feedback from them is that the most im uh w I'm sorry I'm slightly tongue-tied after lunch, sorry Luz Washington: It's Lorraine Ramos: Project Luz Washington: okay. Lorraine Ramos: Manager. Um we decided on the most important aspect i uh required in a remote control device and we'll come to that later. So that was one of the first things we did. Also with our company um being forerunners in uh putting fashion into technology, we also looked at a fashion update um using our consultants on fashion and design in Paris and Milan. Uh so the general findings from that was uh in the market trends the most important aspect for remote controls were people want a fancy look and feel, rather than the the current functional look and feel of remote controls. They also also want a remote control to be technologically innovative, and of course, as we predicted, that it should be easy to use. Now I should point out that the first of those findings, fancy look and feel, is the most important, is twice as important as the second, technologically innovative, which is in turn twice as important as being easy to use. So possibly that the feature that we put first is actually third is still important, but it's third in order of preference for the the subject group we looked at. Luz Washington: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: Okay, um, now the fashion update which relates to very personal preferences among our subject group, um we found from our um consultants in Paris and Milan who des attended all the design and fashion fairs there, that fruit and vegetables are going to be the theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. So should we be thinking of using something like that in our remote control design too? There also seems to be um a trend towards a spongy feel to materials, uh again in contrast to last year. So a lot of interesting feedback there, both from our market research departments and from our people in Paris and Milan. Be interesting to see what our design people make of that. Joyce Bludworth: 'Kay. Luz Washington: Okay thank you very much. Um Joyce Bludworth: Yep. Luz Washington: let's start from the inside and work our way out. Joyce Bludworth: Fine. Kristine Cork: Yeah, Joyce Bludworth: It's okay Kristine Cork: okay. Joyce Bludworth: with Lorraine Ramos. Lorraine Ramos: Unless anyone has any questions about that? Not Luz Washington: I Lorraine Ramos: yet? Luz Washington: don't think so, not Lorraine Ramos: 'Kay. Luz Washington: yet. Um, yes, thank you. Kristine Cork: That screwed Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Kristine Cork: in? Luz Washington: I hate those little things Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: especially if you do them on too tight and you can't get the leverage on them to undo Lorraine Ramos: I know. Luz Washington: them. Kristine Cork: 'Kay, Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: Okay. Um this is uh all about the design of the actual components and the availability of the components we have in stock at the moment. Okay, first uh the Into the method. The the main idea of the whole thing is just so you sh you just press buttons and it should activate things on the T_V_ and we discussed last meeting that it should be easy to find. Um also in this study I've looked into the availability of some of the materials, 'cause some of the things that we looked at last time aren't un unfortunately aren't available. Luz Washington: 'Kay. Kristine Cork: Um, findings, I've got my nice little picture there. This is uh the chip called the T_A_ double one eight three five which is what's used in pretty much every remote control 'cause it sends out standard signals, based on your input and um it's pretty much used for all all T_V_ Luz Washington: 'Kay. Kristine Cork: remotes at the moment. Um and then we we're loo looking into battery options. There's um actually no rechargeable option available, so we I saw the um the standard double A_ and triple A_ which we thought were a bit bit too bulky at the moment, dynamo charging, I thought that that might be a bit silly to be Luz Washington: Wa Kristine Cork: to be honest, Luz Washington: can you explain Kristine Cork: people won't Luz Washington: that? Kristine Cork: it's it's basically Luz Washington: Like a Kristine Cork: like wind-up radio. Luz Washington: right, okay. Kristine Cork: So you wind up your remote control before you use it. Luz Washington: How what Kristine Cork: It Luz Washington: kind Kristine Cork: might Luz Washington: of how l long can you get out of that, I mean can you Kristine Cork: You Luz Washington: pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night? Kristine Cork: Yeah, Luz Washington: Or Kristine Cork: yeah, oh yeah I presu you wouldn't have to wind it for very long, but I don't I don't think it's really sort of necessary when you th you think of the next two options, like the the solar charging, 'cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get Luz Washington: That Kristine Cork: when Luz Washington: doesn't count though Kristine Cork: when Lorraine Ramos: Does Luz Washington: does Kristine Cork: you Lorraine Ramos: does Kristine Cork: got Luz Washington: it? Lorraine Ramos: light Kristine Cork: T_V_. Lorraine Ramos: charge as as sunlight Luz Washington: I thought Lorraine Ramos: does? Luz Washington: it was Lorraine Ramos: Artificial Luz Washington: U_V_ Kristine Cork: No. Lorraine Ramos: light? Kristine Cork: Is Luz Washington: like Kristine Cork: it? Alright i Lorraine Ramos: Has to be solar. Luz Washington: Any, any Joyce Bludworth: Yep. Regarding those sizes, which one you think will be light because we we have to take into consideration size also, so maybe a standard triple A_ might take lesser space or and dynamo might take more Kristine Cork: Yeah Joyce Bludworth: space. Kristine Cork: it would the d yeah the dynamo would take more space 'cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up. Luz Washington: I'm pretty sure that solar is from the sun. Kristine Cork: Yeah, Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: okay. Luz Washington: Uh, I don't think it counts Lorraine Ramos: Artificial Luz Washington: electric Lorraine Ramos: light, Luz Washington: lights Lorraine Ramos: no. Luz Washington: no, but I mean Lorraine Ramos: That's Luz Washington: not Lorraine Ramos: going to Luz Washington: many you don't want to limit your market. I mean people who live in basement flats there's not that many people, Lorraine Ramos: I know, different Luz Washington: but Joyce Bludworth: Uh Luz Washington: there Kristine Cork: But Lorraine Ramos: parts Luz Washington: are Lorraine Ramos: of the world Luz Washington: people. Lorraine Ramos: too, if we're if we're marketing internationally. Kristine Cork: Yeah and most Joyce Bludworth: Right. Kristine Cork: people most people also watch T_V_ in the in the Joyce Bludworth: Night. Kristine Cork: night anyway. Luz Washington: Mm, but then it would be charging through the day, I think the point is that it charges through the day and then you've got it charged Kristine Cork: But Luz Washington: for Kristine Cork: I Luz Washington: the Kristine Cork: I think Luz Washington: evening. Kristine Cork: I think the the next one's the best Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: anyway. The the kinetic charging which is like you get it in r you get it in wrist watches Luz Washington: Yeah I've Kristine Cork: and Luz Washington: seen Kristine Cork: you d you don't even notice it. I mean the amount the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would would charge it up, I don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work. Joyce Bludworth: And are these like uh what are the life of the kinetic battery, it like it runs for long time? Kristine Cork: Um yeah it's it charges into um some form of it's a smaller cell Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: which it charges into and uh the si the size sort of a watch a watch battery, 'cause they use them quite frequently Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Kristine Cork: in watches. And that'll that would l would last for um well I do I d I'm not entirely sure how long it would last but I've never seen one run out. Luz Washington: But then Joyce Bludworth: We c Luz Washington: if you think about a watch, it's on your wrist so it's on your whole bod it's on your body the whole time Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: so you're walking around, you're doing things, it is moving a lot of the time. Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: If Kristine Cork: and Luz Washington: you'd I mean you switch the T_V_ on, then you put it on the side, then Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: you pick it up to change it and then you put it on the side. Kristine Cork: Yeah but then Luz Washington: Is Kristine Cork: again Luz Washington: it really gonna be enough? Kristine Cork: I I think it is because if you think about it, the watch, although it's only a tiny amount it's it's um it's always moving for the whole day and they don't run out over night when you leave them on the side. Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: And th for the same the same reason, you're only using it for a v incredibly short amount of time just to send the signal and then you're finished with it Lorraine Ramos: Hmm. Luz Washington: So it's Kristine Cork: and Luz Washington: not Kristine Cork: you Luz Washington: the Kristine Cork: put Luz Washington: draw Kristine Cork: it Luz Washington: on it isn't Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: no no I do I don't Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: think the Luz Washington: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: Could Kristine Cork: the Lorraine Ramos: I Kristine Cork: draw Lorraine Ramos: just Kristine Cork: on it Lorraine Ramos: ask Kristine Cork: would be Lorraine Ramos: referring back to solar charging, is that Kristine Cork: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: compatible with um standard batteries? I mean, could people put standard batteries in but with a s you know they could leave it in the sunlight for solar charging Kristine Cork: Ye Lorraine Ramos: or the two things not compatible? Kristine Cork: yeah I think Luz Washington: Like a Kristine Cork: I Luz Washington: dual Kristine Cork: th uh g y Luz Washington: kind Kristine Cork: you Luz Washington: of. Kristine Cork: could have a dual um power thing but the the thing with the solar cells is you would need to put them on the case and they because, if you lie on a calculator they Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: they're qui they're quite big and they all they all look i identical. Lorraine Ramos: So that affects Joyce Bludworth: Solar Lorraine Ramos: the exterior Joyce Bludworth: would be Lorraine Ramos: design. Luz Washington: Expensive Joyce Bludworth: slightly Luz Washington: as Joyce Bludworth: expensives. Luz Washington: well. Kristine Cork: They're they're Luz Washington: What Kristine Cork: expensive, Luz Washington: kind of price Kristine Cork: they don't Luz Washington: are we looking at for I presume Joyce Bludworth: It's Luz Washington: the Joyce Bludworth: twelve Luz Washington: normal Joyce Bludworth: point f Luz Washington: batteries are the cheapest? Kristine Cork: Yeah the normal batteries would be the cheapest I'd presume then it would actually be the the solar charging ones, um but the It's i I think they're not very resistant to dropping, 'cause if you Luz Washington: Solar. Kristine Cork: drop stuff yeah if you if you have Luz Washington: Well they're Kristine Cork: y Luz Washington: not designed Kristine Cork: the size you'd need to charge a remote wouldn't be that big but I mean if remotes always get thrown around and stuff, so. Y Luz Washington: Practical-wise Kristine Cork: I think yeah, Luz Washington: okay. Kristine Cork: practically. I mean calculators you don't really throw around a lot whereas remotes you do, they Luz Washington: You Kristine Cork: can Luz Washington: do get Kristine Cork: t Luz Washington: a bit of wear but don't calculators have a battery in them Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: as Kristine Cork: they Luz Washington: well? Kristine Cork: do, they yeah they've got dual things, Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: but they're Luz Washington: Mm. Kristine Cork: the batteries are smaller I think. Joyce Bludworth: Another Lorraine Ramos: Again Joyce Bludworth: question Lorraine Ramos: it de Joyce Bludworth: is like sorry. W w which one would last the longest, because we don't want customers to be like you know charging like a mobile phone every day. Kristine Cork: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: A remote Kristine Cork: W Joyce Bludworth: control, like, so Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: m yeah so Joyce Bludworth: we Kristine Cork: the Joyce Bludworth: have to s look at the life also. Kristine Cork: Yeah the the s if you if you had something du uh using the standard batteries and the solar charging, um, I don't think you'd I think the it would d well you know how long the standard double A_s would last in or Lorraine Ramos: It would Kristine Cork: triple Lorraine Ramos: just detract Kristine Cork: A_s would last. Lorraine Ramos: from the attractiveness of the of the whole feature, Kristine Cork: Yeah Lorraine Ramos: i it's Kristine Cork: I think Lorraine Ramos: not gonna Kristine Cork: i I Lorraine Ramos: add Kristine Cork: think Lorraine Ramos: anything, Kristine Cork: it would, Lorraine Ramos: okay. Kristine Cork: yeah. Luz Washington: Okay, can we add in uh an attachment to closing feature? Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Luz Washington: Can we think about that? 'Cause if we're doing the kinetic thing Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: and Lorraine Ramos: Shouldn't we do some Luz Washington: it's Lorraine Ramos: market research on that first before we add it in because I I personally Luz Washington: Well add it in to think about Lorraine Ramos: right, okay. Luz Washington: um because, where am I? If it is the kinetic thing and it is small and it is portable and it is a different shape Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: and the kinetic is something people don't do kind of we're doing something original and different um but if you wore it if it's something you could just clip on your pocket then you would have that less, you you wouldn't lose it Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: so much. But then maybe Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: that's looking at someone who's just sitting on their own rather than the eternal battle for control of the controls. Lorraine Ramos: It's not something that's come up in any of our uh focus groups and market research, Luz Washington: No. Lorraine Ramos: it's not a thing that people are looking for Luz Washington: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: when we threw it open Joyce Bludworth: So Lorraine Ramos: to the field yeah. Kristine Cork: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: But it's something to put on the side to think about maybe. Luz Washington: Okay, right. Kristine Cork: Okay, well I'll move on. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: Um, my second part of my findings uh the mo most current remotes use this silicone uh P_C_B_ board which pr printed circuit board, has these contacts that are really close together and then when you press down on the rubber button, it'll connect the circuit and each each switch is connected to two uh different legs on the chip and so sends a different message and that then uh gets translated by the chip into a code and then it's fired out of this L_E_D_ in the sequence of l on and off bursts. Luz Washington: What kind of things do we have to consider there? Can we what kind of size, does it come in varying sizes or is it just one size Kristine Cork: Well Luz Washington: and we would have to fit the Kristine Cork: well Luz Washington: design Kristine Cork: this Luz Washington: of Kristine Cork: the thi the thing about is um they they can be as big or as small as you want them to be because you can you can print circuit board like that that it's it's simply spaced like that so you can have fit the n the size of the nine buttons in. If you if you see how thin the tracks are, Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: you could you could s you could put them virtually right next to each other and have a much smaller switch on each one, if Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: you if you wanted to but um the there is an option to do to do it like that, or you could have some sort of array of switches which I'll speak about in the next bit Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: so that And then to uh yeah, so to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode no while not being used. Now what I was thinking about that was 'cause sometimes when y when you have these things, they've got little lights on behind the buttons, so you can see what all the buttons are, like on a mobile phone, they Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: do it more Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: often than on a than on a T_V_ remote, but you could you could have lights behind the buttons and um after like five or ten seconds of not being used I'd have that turned off, if we decided to go for buttons that could light up. Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Kristine Cork: Um, the case material, I've a been sent what the factory can actually give us, the there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for anyway as the main case Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: case housing and the the main problems with the well you could go for wood but I think it would be a bit impractical. Titanium um very expensive just to process, which Luz Washington: Mm. Kristine Cork: to make it is expensive, and rubber, well you're saying that people like this uh spongy feel this Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: year, so perhaps uh some something made of rubber, but I was thinking more of the buttons, because the buttons which they've they've said that they've they've put across are what is used in some stress ball manufacture Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Kristine Cork: and it's meant to be anti R_S_I_. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: I'm no I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said. Um the problem with the casing is that uh there's quite um there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape, whereas if you come to plastic they can they can be a little more they can they can do sort of curved shapes. But whether whether or not because we'd have it in two separate units Joyce Bludworth: Second Kristine Cork: for Luz Washington: Hinged, Joyce Bludworth: thing Kristine Cork: the flip Joyce Bludworth: is Kristine Cork: phone. Luz Washington: yeah. Joyce Bludworth: yeah and second question is like, a mobile you can change the cover, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: you call it a skin or whatever. So in this case if you're looking at like a customer can change the colour like from green, parrot Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: green to chilli red or something like that. Kristine Cork: Yeah I th Joyce Bludworth: So is that feature available in like uh titanium, or it's Kristine Cork: Uh. Joyce Bludworth: like only specific to plastic Kristine Cork: Yeah Joyce Bludworth: or Kristine Cork: in in titanium I don't I don't think it would be available at all really, Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: the ju just it w well you could make it available in the titanium, it was just it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it, Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: because of the expense of how much titanium is is it's light and strong but I think it should be left for aircraft design rather than for Lorraine Ramos: It does Kristine Cork: for Lorraine Ramos: mark Kristine Cork: a remote. Lorraine Ramos: quite easily too if you let it fall. I've got a mobile phone myself which is titanium and it does Kristine Cork: Yeah, Lorraine Ramos: mark very easily Kristine Cork: yeah. Lorraine Ramos: if you drop it. I was just wondering if we make the basic mould out of plastic but have like a rubber cover that goes Kristine Cork: Rubber, Lorraine Ramos: over, Kristine Cork: yeah. Lorraine Ramos: that would give the spongy feel, that also allows us to kind of have different fasciae Kristine Cork: And you can Lorraine Ramos: for Kristine Cork: peel Lorraine Ramos: the phone. Kristine Cork: them off yeah. Luz Washington: So Joyce Bludworth: Yeah. Luz Washington: instead of the fascia that comes off being plastic, the fascia that comes Lorraine Ramos: Like Luz Washington: off Lorraine Ramos: a rubber Luz Washington: would Lorraine Ramos: sleeve Luz Washington: be the rubber, Lorraine Ramos: almost, yeah. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: Something Luz Washington: like those Joyce Bludworth: like Luz Washington: pens that you get with the grip, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: Alright. Luz Washington: that you can Joyce Bludworth: That Luz Washington: you can Joyce Bludworth: could Luz Washington: pull Joyce Bludworth: be a good Luz Washington: that Joyce Bludworth: idea. Luz Washington: off. Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: Hmm. Joyce Bludworth: It Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: could it would be comfortable to hold on also. Luz Washington: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: Very Kristine Cork: T Lorraine Ramos: cheap way of changing the look of it and people can just buy a new one Kristine Cork: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: if they want to. Luz Washington: Well that's been really popular with mobile phones so I don't Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Luz Washington: see why not. Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Kristine Cork: Also the Luz Washington: 'Kay. Kristine Cork: just just going back to the interface designs with the buttons, the I kno we were planning to do some sort of touch Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: screen. Now what I was saying before about instead of having you could have just a bare P_C_B_ circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colours and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection over if you had them close enough, that would be one option. Um the second option th they offer rubber buttons, but I thought that an L_C_D_ type of screen 'cause one they're incredibly thin um and don't take up much space, two they you can have them in a sort of array and you can arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch Joyce Bludworth: Sorry I didn't Kristine Cork: display. Joyce Bludworth: get the last part, you're talking of Kristine Cork: Uh what what Joyce Bludworth: Just what you said I I didn't get the uh meaning of it completely, you're saying Kristine Cork: Oh Joyce Bludworth: like Kristine Cork: on the on the L_C_D_ screen Joyce Bludworth: Uh-huh. Kristine Cork: you could becau you could fit it the problem with it basically is that it's flat and so you can't do lots of curve Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: curved things with it, but um you can you wouldn't have with the L_C_D_ you'd have the wires coming off, you wouldn't have that with the with the L_C_D_, you'd only have that with the printed Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: circuit board. With W Lorraine Ramos: I Kristine Cork: also Lorraine Ramos: don't s Kristine Cork: with Lorraine Ramos: sorry Kristine Cork: the Lorraine Ramos: to interrupt, I don't see why the curved thing is a problem, if we for example had a shell, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: Oh Lorraine Ramos: once Luz Washington: it would be Lorraine Ramos: we Luz Washington: flat Lorraine Ramos: open that Luz Washington: inside. Lorraine Ramos: yeah, so Kristine Cork: You Lorraine Ramos: it'd Kristine Cork: could Lorraine Ramos: be Kristine Cork: have Lorraine Ramos: f Kristine Cork: a Lorraine Ramos: yeah, Kristine Cork: flat screen inside, Lorraine Ramos: yeah. Luz Washington: Mm. Kristine Cork: yeah, Lorraine Ramos: Have Kristine Cork: but I'm Lorraine Ramos: I Kristine Cork: just Lorraine Ramos: misunderstood Kristine Cork: wondering whether Lorraine Ramos: you? Kristine Cork: we want an L_C_D_ screen inside. It wouldn't be like full colour, it would just be black and white, Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: but there'd be touch touch buttons, so you Joyce Bludworth: 'Kay. Kristine Cork: wouldn't be pressing down on 'em, w or we could have rubber buttons which are made of this material which is anti-R_S_I_. Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: I think it would be good to have a contrast between, if the whole thing is gonna Kristine Cork: Is Luz Washington: be Kristine Cork: rubber. Luz Washington: this rubber thing it would be good to open it up and see something quite fancy looking Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Luz Washington: inside. Kristine Cork: Mm. Luz Washington: I mean Kristine Cork: Yeah I hadn't I Luz Washington: Uh Kristine Cork: hadn't really thought of Lorraine Ramos: I just Kristine Cork: that Lorraine Ramos: had another idea, Kristine Cork: to be Lorraine Ramos: I don't Kristine Cork: honest. Lorraine Ramos: know if it helps with that, but just to do with the R_S_I_. Is it possible, just as an option, when we open it up, people can use their fingers to press the button, or we have inside like a small pointer thing Kristine Cork: Yeah Lorraine Ramos: when Kristine Cork: you Lorraine Ramos: people Kristine Cork: could, Lorraine Ramos: want Kristine Cork: you Lorraine Ramos: to. Kristine Cork: could have some sort of stylus Luz Washington: Like one Kristine Cork: that you Luz Washington: of Kristine Cork: could Luz Washington: the palm Kristine Cork: pull Luz Washington: pop Kristine Cork: out Luz Washington: thing. Kristine Cork: but Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: I I think they could get a bit easily lost, Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: Absolutely, Kristine Cork: 'cause I had Joyce Bludworth: f Lorraine Ramos: They're Luz Washington: It Lorraine Ramos: easy Luz Washington: would have Lorraine Ramos: to Luz Washington: to Lorraine Ramos: replace Luz Washington: be attached. Lorraine Ramos: as Joyce Bludworth: for Lorraine Ramos: well, Joyce Bludworth: somebody who Lorraine Ramos: cheap. Joyce Bludworth: very often, Kristine Cork: Hmm. Joyce Bludworth: if he would a person who switches channels very often or does use a particular function very often Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: will find it very irritating to use a Kristine Cork: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Joyce Bludworth: and he might spoil the touch-pad very fast compared to a button like, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: if Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: you keep punching with an pointer or whatever. Kristine Cork: Yeah Lorraine Ramos: Yeah Kristine Cork: okay. Lorraine Ramos: just a thought they wouldn't actually need one and they could use anything they've got, couldn't they? A pencil or a pen, so they wouldn't really need a Luz Washington: Okay, we'll talk about that so if you finish your and Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: we'll come Kristine Cork: that's Luz Washington: back to that. Kristine Cork: yeah that Luz Washington: That's Kristine Cork: that's Luz Washington: you, Kristine Cork: the end of m my Joyce Bludworth: And Luz Washington: right Joyce Bludworth: just one Luz Washington: okay. Joyce Bludworth: small question before like you are, regarding the circuit, since we are hav having a flip-top, we Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: can customise the two circuits for different type of buttons like we are keeping the standard buttons on the top and Kristine Cork: Uh Joyce Bludworth: the more Kristine Cork: yeah. Joyce Bludworth: complex buttons under this thing, so we can divide the circuit like you know. Kristine Cork: Yeah yeah that that would be fairly simple, I mean you'd Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: you'd actually have two separate you'd Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Kristine Cork: have two separate circuit boards but they'd be joined by wires or Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Kristine Cork: like some cabling between them, Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: 'cause in the in the actual flip bit you'd have some linking. Lorraine Ramos: another point while it occurs to Lorraine Ramos, it kind of applies to both our designers here, so I'm not sure how it Kristine Cork: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: would fit in. If we flip open, now you know how you've got some mirrors in nightclubs that are mirrors when you turn to them and you turn away and it gives like an advertising display, you seen those? Luz Washington: No. Lorraine Ramos: And they kind of respond to the turn of your body. Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell it's a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display th uh the remote control display thing. Luz Washington: We're Kristine Cork: Um. Luz Washington: marketing to guys as much as we are to women. Lorraine Ramos: They don't look at themselves? Just a thought. Luz Washington: Well it's a remote control, you were sitting watching T_V_ Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Luz Washington: are you gonna want to sort of open it and say Lorraine Ramos: I Luz Washington: oh Lorraine Ramos: know what Luz Washington: shit Lorraine Ramos: you mean, Luz Washington: I should Lorraine Ramos: it's Luz Washington: go Lorraine Ramos: with Luz Washington: and Lorraine Ramos: us Luz Washington: have Lorraine Ramos: using Luz Washington: a Lorraine Ramos: the ideas Luz Washington: shower Lorraine Ramos: for a mobile Luz Washington: and Lorraine Ramos: ph Luz Washington: do my hair before I put the T_ Lorraine Ramos: it's with us using the ideas for mobile phones I kinda got Luz Washington: Yeah, Lorraine Ramos: sidetracked Luz Washington: no, Lorraine Ramos: onto that I think, okay. Luz Washington: no. Lorraine Ramos: trying to think of other features we can build in that wouldn't cost too much Luz Washington: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: but maybe we'll leave that one on the side. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: 'Kay. Luz Washington: Okay. Kristine Cork: I mean you can you could do it, you could have a 'cause if you if you just put the full charge through an L_C_D_ display it'll completely blank it out, Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: but I don't know if you could get any mirror effect on it, Lorraine Ramos: Oh I think Kristine Cork: I'm not sure Lorraine Ramos: forget Kristine Cork: about Lorraine Ramos: about the mirror that was just a very quick passing thought yeah. Luz Washington: Okay, okay. Joyce Bludworth: Okay, uh would like to share something which I did here. First thing is uh basically on design we just took the input from the previous meeting, especially from the marketing and industrial design, to check on the customer needs and feasibility. Second is we checked into competitors, the picture here shows one of the standard models offered by competitors here. So y you generally see there's not much of variety Luz Washington: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: and like marketing team said uh, people need trendy, they are bored of black and white. So Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: you generally see rectangular shape, very monotonous kind of designs here. And uh second thing is there's too much of confusion here. Luz Washington: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: No particular remote is standard. Like, some some people have a Here you see this? This is on a I I I found th that uh only common feature is the ch uh channel control and uh volume control, rest other buttons, they are in a very disorganized and they are not consistent th with other models and all. Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: Okay, and second as already discussed with William, we are going to have m maybe a G_ G_U_I_ interface in the Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: f in the middle of the flip-top Lorraine Ramos: Sorry what Joyce Bludworth: and Lorraine Ramos: does that Luz Washington: Which Lorraine Ramos: stand Luz Washington: means Joyce Bludworth: g Lorraine Ramos: for? Joyce Bludworth: graphic user interface basically Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: which is what we d do in computer, have Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: icons or touch pad or whatever, which Kristine Cork: If Joyce Bludworth: is Kristine Cork: you if yeah if you have like buttons that appear on the screen in this L_C_D_ screen. Joyce Bludworth: Like you have on a l uh icons or something y you have is a good example of G_U_I_ graphic user interface. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: So basically not point or click Press any particular device, he just has to click on that particular icon Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: to simplify. And on the top m repetitive buttons which are like volume or channel changing and all could be on the pointing device, that means the use of button. So he need not use a pointer to keep changing the channel if a person is frequent surfer. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Joyce Bludworth: So we are having a combination of boards, so f on the s simpler board, on the top we have this button, rubber buttons, to keep frequently changing the channels. Luz Washington: Can we swap that round so th that the ones that we use all the time are on the bottom part? 'Cause if you're thinking about holding it you would be using your thumbs to press, just like a mobile phone. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: No you'd hold it you don't if you flip it open then you'd be Wouldn't you? Isn't that the idea? You us if we just use the shell as an example Luz Washington: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: again, you open that, you've got your L_C_D_ display there and you've got the buttons there so you're holding Kristine Cork: Yeah, Lorraine Ramos: it in Luz Washington: That's Lorraine Ramos: the palm Luz Washington: what Lorraine Ramos: of your Luz Washington: I was Lorraine Ramos: hand, Kristine Cork: yeah Luz Washington: just saying, Lorraine Ramos: yeah. Kristine Cork: but you Luz Washington: and Joyce Bludworth: But Kristine Cork: can Luz Washington: then Kristine Cork: do Luz Washington: have Kristine Cork: it with your Luz Washington: the Kristine Cork: thumb li Luz Washington: and then have the L_C_D_ at the top Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: and then be able to touch that for the Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: other Joyce Bludworth: Okay Luz Washington: controls, Joyce Bludworth: and you mean to Luz Washington: so Joyce Bludworth: the Luz Washington: have the um the volume and the programme, things like that, Joyce Bludworth: And the lower distance. Luz Washington: on the lower Joyce Bludworth: Oh f Luz Washington: side. Joyce Bludworth: perfect. Lorraine Ramos: Hmm. Luz Washington: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: So the findings are too many cluttered buttons. Repetition of certain but buttons which I already explained, example the volume and channel control buttons. All are confusing and in inconsistent. Okay we had a latest finding of voice recognition, there was a mail which mentions that our division has developed a new speech recognition s feature. We have to check into the for financial f feasibility whether we can incorporate it this at a low cost, but for like we had g um s response from the customers that they would like to have the feature of finding Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: it. So it could be like, where is the remote, and the remote answers I am here. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: Some kind of thing or it gives a b bleep sound or some kind of sound Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: this can be incorporated this would be more uh you can say trendy also? And technologically innovative also. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: So we we can check into the financial feasibility of incorporating this. My personal preferences would be like, as already uh marketing department, they want something to do with fruit so I wouldn't say the design should be like a fruit, but yeah we can take inspiration from fruit colours, like the vibrant colours, Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Joyce Bludworth: uh red chilli Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: uh tomato red or whatever and second thing is cer certain standard buttons we should have, like for example, i if you see the previous slide uh Kristine Cork: Well, yeah we Joyce Bludworth: I think most of the users would now be well acquainted with this cer central pattern, here, Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: so we we we would not change h that particular pattern because i this is the most consistent thing in all remote controls. Luz Washington: I can't see that, is that play and stop and things? Joyce Bludworth: This is central one, the one you Luz Washington: Or is that volume and Joyce Bludworth: yeah volume and Luz Washington: channel? Joyce Bludworth: channel. So keep that m that standardised because that's the most common feature across all models, if you look at all the models, it's here. This and voice recognition. Luz Washington: Okay. Right. Okay. Um I'm not sure how long we've got left, but we need to make a decision about um the things we've discussed. So, we agree on Do we agree on the battery? Lorraine Ramos: Kinetic? Joyce Bludworth: The kinetic. Luz Washington: Yeah. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: Um, that means that there's no function for li the port, you know that it sits in, then pressing Kristine Cork: Mm. Luz Washington: the button then having so we could incorporate voice recognition Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: for the Kristine Cork: I Luz Washington: finding Kristine Cork: think Luz Washington: it. Kristine Cork: I mean Luz Washington: It's Kristine Cork: if Luz Washington: a bi i it's like a g it's a gadget, it's a Kristine Cork: Yeah it is it is Luz Washington: selling Kristine Cork: qui Luz Washington: point. Kristine Cork: it's quite a cool feature to have and also if they've got it if they've got these parts already in stock, Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: then it won't be cheap to re-manufacture them, uh or it will be cheap sorry to re-manufacture them. So do you reckon that's a good idea that, where's the remote, I'm here thing? I think that would be quite Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Kristine Cork: fun. Luz Washington: I think the only I think the only pitfall that we would have would be how much it's going to cost Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: if that means we have to cut down somewhere else, but I think pretty much we've used cheap Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: relatively cheap and Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Luz Washington: simple things. Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: The Kristine Cork: to Luz Washington: L_C_D_'s Kristine Cork: s Luz Washington: not cheap. Kristine Cork: th well Lorraine Ramos: Hmm. Kristine Cork: it's it's not as expensive as it would be if it was full colour 'cause if we've just got a black and white one, I mean they use them in calculators so. Luz Washington: Yeah, okay. Joyce Bludworth: Maybe we could start with the black and white. Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: That Luz Washington: And you Joyce Bludworth: that Luz Washington: could Joyce Bludworth: way we could Luz Washington: yeah. Joyce Bludworth: upgrade later. Lorraine Ramos: Yeah, Luz Washington: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: we talked about Joyce Bludworth: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: kinetic charging, we've deci seem to have decided on that, did we decide on double A_ or triple A_ batteries? Joyce Bludworth: Mm. Kristine Cork: Well you cou um. Luz Washington: Do you want like a back-up? Lorraine Ramos: No, one of the decisions we had to make was whether we had double A_ or triple A_ batteries 'cause they've still got to be charged this way haven't Kristine Cork: K no the Lorraine Ramos: they? Kristine Cork: kinetic Lorraine Ramos: I Kristine Cork: ones Lorraine Ramos: oh I Kristine Cork: come Lorraine Ramos: see. Kristine Cork: come with um a sort of w watch a battery that goes in a watch. Lorraine Ramos: Right, okay, got you. Kristine Cork: So it's a lot smaller, so it would Lorraine Ramos: Got you on that okay, didn't realise. Luz Washington: Um, okay so we've got battery. The inside components is pretty standardised across the board isn't it? Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: Yeah. Luz Washington: So there's not a really a decision to be made there, um. The buttons what did you give us as our The bare-board L_C_D_ Kristine Cork: Yeah Luz Washington: or Kristine Cork: the well I think were we're going for the L_C_D_ on that one, on the buttons, on the on the on on the top one Luz Washington: On Kristine Cork: we're Luz Washington: the top Kristine Cork: gonna Luz Washington: one okay you've got the touch Kristine Cork: yeah. Luz Washington: okay and then Kristine Cork: On the bottom we were gonna have the rubber, the rubber ones, the anti-R_S_I_ ones. Luz Washington: Okay, okay. Lorraine Ramos: Sorry could you repeat that last part? Kristine Cork: Um, okay on Lorraine Ramos: L_C_D_ Kristine Cork: we've got the flip Lorraine Ramos: screen. Kristine Cork: the flip-screen, Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Kristine Cork: the top one is gonna be the L_C_D_ and the bottom one is gonna be the rubberised buttons. Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Joyce Bludworth: And for the sorry. Luz Washington: No, it's fine. Joyce Bludworth: For the body design I think plastic, Kristine Cork: Plastic, Joyce Bludworth: uh w yeah Kristine Cork: okay. Joyce Bludworth: we could Luz Washington: For Joyce Bludworth: use Luz Washington: the Joyce Bludworth: the Luz Washington: inside. Joyce Bludworth: body, for the inside and Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: uh rubber as a padding or for the grip, something like to add to the design. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm, so we decided on a rubber casing for the plastic shell, Joyce Bludworth: Plast right. Lorraine Ramos: a variety Luz Washington: Oh I think Lorraine Ramos: of designs, Luz Washington: so, I Lorraine Ramos: okay. Luz Washington: think so. Lorraine Ramos: and it is just uh although it's rubberised and spongy, apart from that we're just going to go for sort of vegetable and fruit colours, we're not gonna try and make it actually a vegetable or fruit design or anything else, Kristine Cork: Mm Lorraine Ramos: like Kristine Cork: no. Lorraine Ramos: a shell that we discussed, Luz Washington: No Lorraine Ramos: just Luz Washington: I think Lorraine Ramos: go for the colours. Luz Washington: I Joyce Bludworth: It's Luz Washington: we don't wanna be tacky if we've got Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Luz Washington: a kind of different shape anyway um the fact the m the material that we would be using would be cheap, so we could make it red, we could make it um psychedelic, you know, we could make Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: it black and white zebra stripes, but that's not really what we're focusing on, what we're focusing on is the m you know Lorraine Ramos: The feel. Luz Washington: yes. So we could Lorraine Ramos: 'Kay. Luz Washington: just pick anything. Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Is that going to be this image I've got in my head of something kind of shaped like that, maybe about that size, made of plastic, fits into the palm of the hand, rubberised cover that's spongy. Is that really going to fit fancy look and feel which was the major thing that people wanted, market research, is that Luz Washington: It's Lorraine Ramos: fancy? Joyce Bludworth: Uh Luz Washington: just Joyce Bludworth: I Luz Washington: different Joyce Bludworth: it's different. Luz Washington: it's just different from everything else and I mean, I'm trying to imagine um clean looking Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Luz Washington: houses, sort of beige and black Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: um so you either want something that goes with that, which is what's Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: on the market anyway, Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: or you want something that contrasts as Kristine Cork: Mm. Luz Washington: you know like you get clocks now that Lorraine Ramos: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: are more of a talking point than an actual clock Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Luz Washington: because they're so interesting Lorraine Ramos: I'm just kind of pushing Luz Washington: and Lorraine Ramos: at that to see if you came out with anything else, but I mean I totally agree. We looked at those remotes, I mean they are kind of anonymous, very similar looking things. Luz Washington: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: This would definitely be different enough, I just wondered if anybody could come up with something even more Luz Washington: And you would just have an across the b you would have so many different options that you could do, you could have um a plain black one, you could have sparkly pink glittery Lorraine Ramos: Well the thing Luz Washington: ones Lorraine Ramos: is the rubberised Luz Washington: for your little Lorraine Ramos: covers are going to be s relatively cheap to produce, that if in a year's time we we get feedback from the design fairs that show something else is coming I mean it's so easy for us Luz Washington: Mm. Lorraine Ramos: to just produce that and it can be slipped on, Luz Washington: And Joyce Bludworth: Right. Luz Washington: ones Lorraine Ramos: which is another Luz Washington: tha Lorraine Ramos: beauty of it. Luz Washington: ones that have rubbery spikes y you know, Kristine Cork: You Luz Washington: you Kristine Cork: can Luz Washington: could just Kristine Cork: you can Luz Washington: go Kristine Cork: just Luz Washington: so Joyce Bludworth: Acupressure, Luz Washington: far Joyce Bludworth: you Luz Washington: with Kristine Cork: Yeah. Joyce Bludworth: could Luz Washington: it, Joyce Bludworth: talk of acupressures. Luz Washington: like a puffer fish, you could just, you could take it wherever, so I think that's quite a Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: flexible Joyce Bludworth: And finally Luz Washington: thing. Joyce Bludworth: the body should be retouchable, may maybe ch you can change the body or the case casing the case outside, Luz Washington: Yes. Joyce Bludworth: it should be moulded it with the design in such a way you can change it every time. Kristine Cork: Yeah, yeah j with these rubber these rubberised ca not Luz Washington: Mm. Kristine Cork: the actual uh plastic outside Joyce Bludworth: Okay. Kristine Cork: case, just the rubber Joyce Bludworth: The rubber. Luz Washington: Yeah. Kristine Cork: thing that goes round the outside. Luz Washington: Okay we've got five minutes, um, or that might've been up Lorraine Ramos: Mm, Luz Washington: for Joyce Bludworth: Fine. Luz Washington: a while. Lorraine Ramos: so can I just recap uh Sarah, Joyce Bludworth: Yeah. Lorraine Ramos: for the decisions that we've made, kinetic charging, the watch-type batteries, um L_C_D_ display on th the top side of the flip top, rubberised buttons on the bottom side, we're gonna use fruit and vegetable colours for the rubber cover, the case itself is plastic. That's how far we've got, what else do we have to add to our decisions here? Joyce Bludworth: Fine, uh we were talking of voice recognition also Lorraine Ramos: Mm. Luz Washington: Mm-hmm. Joyce Bludworth: because that we are not for how to look it uh remote control if it's lost. So, Lorraine Ramos: Yes, Joyce Bludworth: are Lorraine Ramos: it was Joyce Bludworth: we Lorraine Ramos: just, Joyce Bludworth: looking Lorraine Ramos: there was Joyce Bludworth: at Lorraine Ramos: just Joyce Bludworth: voice? Lorraine Ramos: a cost issue with that, but it's a good idea we just need to check on the cost, Joyce Bludworth: Or Lorraine Ramos: is Joyce Bludworth: maybe Lorraine Ramos: that right? Joyce Bludworth: like uh William was suggesting in the last thing some devices you put on key chains. For Kristine Cork: Oh Joyce Bludworth: l Kristine Cork: yeah, yeah Joyce Bludworth: yeah, Kristine Cork: the whistle ones, yeah. Joyce Bludworth: the whistle. So we can if financially voice recognition is not feasible we could go for a whistle. Lorraine Ramos: And incorporating the company logo? Joyce Bludworth: Yep. Luz Washington: Have you Joyce Bludworth: Uh sorry I didn't mention this, but we'll be incorporating in the design. Lorraine Ramos: Mm. 'Cause Luz Washington: Okay. Lorraine Ramos: I took it from the feedback you gave in the last meeting from y from y your report, it's not just a case of having a little R_R_ hidden somewhere, they do want it to be obvious that it's our product don't Luz Washington: Well they Lorraine Ramos: they? Luz Washington: do, but I think we can Lorraine Ramos: Since it's Luz Washington: you Lorraine Ramos: the only Luz Washington: could Lorraine Ramos: one of its kind on the market Luz Washington: well Lorraine Ramos: it's obviously Luz Washington: it is, Lorraine Ramos: gonna Luz Washington: it Lorraine Ramos: be ours. Luz Washington: is, I think you just address that with um advertising. Lorraine Ramos: Yeah. Luz Washington: Um, you associate the name with the individual product Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: that it is Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Luz Washington: and that does the work for you. Obviously it'll have a logo on it just like everything, but everything else has a logo on it. The point is that it's got to stand out somehow differently Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Luz Washington: but I think it does, without that so I'm not worried about that. Lorraine Ramos: Okay. Did we I know at the last meeting we spoke about a beeper, I think that was you talked about a beeper for a location, have we just rejected that in favour of voice recognition then? Luz Washington: Depending on how i Kristine Cork: Yeah, depending on the expense of it. Luz Washington: I mean we've got this memo saying that it's something that the company's looking into, so Kristine Cork: And they've got in stock, so yeah. Luz Washington: um that seems to make sense, but if it turns out that it's hugely expensive we'd have to cut down somewhere else, then it's worth thinking about. But I think we'll find out more about cost Kristine Cork: Yeah. Luz Washington: afterwards. Right Kristine Cork: Okay. Luz Washington: I'm going to wrap it up there. Joyce Bludworth: Fine. Luz Washington: I got a end meeting now message on my Joyce Bludworth: Mm-hmm. Luz Washington: mo Kristine Cork: Did it? Luz Washington: yeah Joyce Bludworth: Yeah. Luz Washington: so. Joyce Bludworth: Again Luz Washington: Um Joyce Bludworth: a questionnaire huh? Luz Washington: so I think we've probably got it Lorraine Ramos: You Luz Washington: says, Lorraine Ramos: got to go through. Luz Washington: closing we have forty minutes so I um think we've probably got about that time before we come back. It's either that or we only had forty minutes to discuss what we just discussed and don't know how long that took. Joyce Bludworth: I think we are pretty going in a clear direction now. Luz Washington: Is everyone happy? Okay.

Luz Washington reviewed the decisions from the previous meeting. Lorraine Ramos made a presentation on trend watching, including trends in user requirements and trends in fashion. Kristine Cork presented all the components of the device and announced that several of the features already discussed would not be available. He suggested substituting a kinetic battery for the rechargeable batteries and using a combination of rubber and plastic for the materials. Joyce Bludworth presented his main interface design, which included buttons for the most frequently used features and a graphic user interface on the LCD screen for other functions, to keep frequently used features easy to use. He announced that speech recognition was still an option to consider, depending on price. Luz Washington then began a discussion to decide what was going into the final design. It was decided that a kinetic battery would be used in place of a rechargeable battery, that the remote will feature an LCD screen and rubber casing and rubber buttons, and that interchangeable rubber covers in fruit colors will be available. Speech recognition may be included if it is not too costly.

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Margarita Arndt: If you leave them on the whole time you get to look like a noodle the whole time. Gail Osborne: Hmm. Christy Lloyd: Is that someone's? Margarita Arndt: Is that. Gail Osborne: Thank you. Margarita Arndt: three, apparently. Gail Osborne: Hmm. Hmm. Margarita Arndt: Okay, you all Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: switched on. Gail Osborne: Yep Christy Lloyd too. Margarita Arndt: I presume we're good to go. Okay, um minutes um we decided to use a kinetic charger, Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: standard chip, um 'cause it can come in various different sizes, it wasn't uh uh gonna be a problem factor. We wanted a stand-by function. The case material is gonna be soft, rubbery, changeable. Um buttons with a combination of L_C_D_ and rubber according to the design. Um bright funky designs inspired by fruit, keeping with the hip kind of feel. Um and to try and incorporate voice recognition software into our design until we can find out more about the cost of things like that. Um and the rubber buttons that we'll use will be anti-R_S_I_. Okay? Prototype presentation. Jean Dye: Is that for us? Margarita Arndt: I think Gail Osborne: Yep. Margarita Arndt: that would be you. Jean Dye: Okay. Gail Osborne: Christy Lloyd and William worked on a prototype, and I think William is going to make a p presentation on that. Jean Dye: Yeah shall, I show? Gail Osborne: Yeah. Jean Dye: I'll show. Though do you do you wanna Margarita Arndt: Make Jean Dye: do you Margarita Arndt: sure Jean Dye: wanna Margarita Arndt: the Gail Osborne: I Jean Dye: sh Margarita Arndt: camera's Gail Osborne: can hold it like Jean Dye: do you wanna hold it and I'll Gail Osborne: Yeah, Jean Dye: I'll Gail Osborne: so Jean Dye: show you the presentation. Can I just nick Margarita Arndt: Yes, Jean Dye: your Margarita Arndt: yes you can. Wait a second, I'll get it out. Jean Dye: Whoa. Gail Osborne: It Margarita Arndt: Um Gail Osborne: looks Jean Dye: Going a bit crazy over here. Gail Osborne: crazy. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: Thank you. Margarita Arndt: You Gail Osborne: Um not now. Margarita Arndt: should have one of Gail Osborne: Oh. Margarita Arndt: those things and you can just take it off. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Ta-da. Gail Osborne: Oh, where are the hinges? Jean Dye: Okay, so this is Margarita Arndt: Right. Jean Dye: our look and feel presentation, Margarita Arndt: Mm Jean Dye: the Margarita Arndt: 'kay. Jean Dye: final our final presentation. And we'll first look at the exterior of what we've uh come up with over there. Um Gail Osborne: 'Kay. Jean Dye: It's Gail Osborne: You able Jean Dye: have Gail Osborne: to look? Jean Dye: a a plastic body Gail Osborne: Yep. Jean Dye: um with a sort of standard colour, either we're thinking some something fairly neutral like a a white or a light blue or something. This is underneath the rubberised Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Jean Dye: the rubberised uh outer casing um which there'd be sort of a wide choice they would be attached, but we can we can come up with that. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: Um the um wide choice of colours and sort of patterns, so you've got you've got a lot of customisation with it. Um it's obviously an a sort of clam-shell design and uh the um the top L_C_D_ screen that you can see that would b would be sort of um how do you say, Gail Osborne: The Jean Dye: it's Gail Osborne: black and white touch screen Jean Dye: yeah Gail Osborne: wherein Jean Dye: yeah, it would Gail Osborne: people Jean Dye: be sort Gail Osborne: can Jean Dye: of inset into the into Margarita Arndt: Mm. Jean Dye: the top Margarita Arndt: So Jean Dye: and Margarita Arndt: it's Jean Dye: the Margarita Arndt: flush. Jean Dye: buttons at the bottom Gail Osborne: Right. Jean Dye: would d so so it'll fully close flat. Margarita Arndt: Oh right, okay, Jean Dye: Yeah, Margarita Arndt: yeah. Jean Dye: yeah. And working on the inside we've um already said d decided on the kinetic batteries, which actually, thinking about it now, could y could also probably attach to the flipping open and shut as well, so that you could probably get Margarita Arndt: So Jean Dye: a Margarita Arndt: put Jean Dye: bit Margarita Arndt: it Jean Dye: of Margarita Arndt: in the top section rather than the bottom sections, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: 'cause Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: it's the top Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: part that's okay. Jean Dye: Um we decided that um the voice recognition system, it did actually say on the email that they were sort of coming in and they were fairly easy to get a-hold of, so we presumed that they'd also be quite cheap. So you'd have something like where you'd shout out, where where is the remote and it'll shout back, I'm here, or something. And Christy Lloyd: Or something. Jean Dye: then yeah. It wo it won't shout out I'm here or something. It'll just shout out I'm here, Margarita Arndt: Okay. Gail Osborne: 'Kay. Jean Dye: or something Margarita Arndt: I'm under Jean Dye: to Margarita Arndt: the sofa. Jean Dye: similar effect. Gail Osborne: Ah Margarita Arndt: Or, that would be too complicated. Gail Osborne: oka Jean Dye: Uh yeah, if it was going like I d well tha that could be something for next time, maybe. You can have a remote that tells you exactly where it is. Um the standard, there's be a standard transmission with the T_V_ using using all the standard chips that we've talked about. Margarita Arndt: Infrared. Jean Dye: Um it would it would have obviously 'cause it's split over two two different layers, it would need two separate P_C_B_s, so it would be joined at the hinge through some sort of cabling. And uh because, obviously, all T_V_s use this, the same infrared medium, we'd just be using using the same thing to transmit the data. And the infrared um sender would be on the on one of the bot the bottom layer, just at the front of the we haven't I don't think we actually Margarita Arndt: Like Jean Dye: put it on. Margarita Arndt: here. Jean Dye: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Gail Osborne: Infrared could be Margarita Arndt: Actually, Gail Osborne: here Margarita Arndt: no, Gail Osborne: also. Margarita Arndt: it would be it would have to Jean Dye: Yeah, Margarita Arndt: be on Jean Dye: on Margarita Arndt: the Gail Osborne: Yeah, Jean Dye: the front Gail Osborne: here. Jean Dye: on the Margarita Arndt: on Jean Dye: front Margarita Arndt: the front. Jean Dye: side of that, yeah. Margarita Arndt: Oh right, yeah, okay, Gail Osborne: So when Margarita Arndt: yeah, Gail Osborne: it's Margarita Arndt: I've got Gail Osborne: even Margarita Arndt: you. Gail Osborne: if it's open here, the Margarita Arndt: It's Gail Osborne: signals Jean Dye: So Margarita Arndt: still Jean Dye: when Gail Osborne: would Margarita Arndt: pointing, Gail Osborne: go. Jean Dye: you've actually got Margarita Arndt: yes. Jean Dye: it open, it would be Gail Osborne: Yeah. Jean Dye: facing the T_V_. Margarita Arndt: Yeah, that would make sense. Jean Dye: And then finally um on to the interface. The top screen, as we said, is would be an inset um black and white L_C_D_ s touch screen which Gail Osborne: This one right here. Jean Dye: yeah would uh have all of all of the the available functions for for the remote on it, uh whereas the bot the bottom screen would just contain the standard buttons, like the vo volume up and down, channel up and down, power on and off, Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: and uh things to that effect. And now we've we also decided on the inside, we could possibly either have um some some kind of sort of bezzled uh logo on it, or something inset, or maybe an engraving of the logo on the top. Gail Osborne: Which Margarita Arndt: But Gail Osborne: is Margarita Arndt: not interfering with Jean Dye: No Margarita Arndt: the Jean Dye: d Margarita Arndt: outside Jean Dye: not Margarita Arndt: kind Gail Osborne: No. Jean Dye: not Margarita Arndt: of Jean Dye: actually. Margarita Arndt: look of the product Jean Dye: No, Margarita Arndt: once Jean Dye: not Margarita Arndt: it's Jean Dye: uh interfering with l the whole look of Gail Osborne: Look up Jean Dye: the Gail Osborne: to it. Jean Dye: the Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: product when it's uh on the thing. And finally that's how we put the fashion back into electronics, as Margarita Arndt: Thank Jean Dye: that Margarita Arndt: you Jean Dye: is Margarita Arndt: very much. Jean Dye: that's Gail Osborne: Yay. Jean Dye: the company logo. Margarita Arndt: Wrapping it all up, Christy Lloyd: Well done. Margarita Arndt: okay. Um I've now got evaluation criteria. Christy Lloyd: Certainly. Gail Osborne: So this is the one. Sorry. Margarita Arndt: It's to be presented. Jean Dye: There Christy Lloyd: Logged in? Thank you. Jean Dye: you go. Christy Lloyd: Oops. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Gail Osborne: Evaluation. Gail Osborne: Mm um I I think this is chip. Margarita Arndt: It's quite similar to what it was before, though. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: Sorry. Christy Lloyd: This stage of the evaluation is really for us as a team to evaluate if we have now got a product specification and prototype design that meets the the criteria that we got from our market research. So this is the first stage of the evaluation. Now, the collection of the criteria, as we saw in our meeting, was based on the user requirements and trends found in the marketing reports and marketing strategy of our company. So it's what we've discussed in the last meeting, are we actually meeting those trends and requirements? Now the findings that we came up with, just a recap, are here. The criteria that we want in this remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, it should be easy to use, it should incorporate current fashion trends, and those the two main ones, they were the spongy texture Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: and the fruit and vegetable strong design colours. The design should minimise R_S_I_ and be easy to locate and we were still um uh slightly ambivalent as to whether to use voice recognition there, though that did seem to be the favoured strategy, but there was also, on the sideline, the though of maybe having a beeper function. Okay, so we can come back to that slide, if you don't have a note of those. I'll just show you how we're going to evaluate our own feedback to this, to what we have so far. We're going to use a seven point scale, where one is true and seven is false. We look at each of those criteria that I've just mentioned, I'll call that slide back up, and I will just Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: do a preliminary rating of all those criteria on the whiteboard here. Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: Does that seem clear? Any questions there? Gail Osborne: Ah, it's perfect. Christy Lloyd: So we're going to look at these Gail Osborne: Is it Christy Lloyd: crite Gail Osborne: everybody is going to evaluate, or just the Christy Lloyd: Yes, Gail Osborne: Market okay. Christy Lloyd: we're going to come to w we'll discuss each one Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: and we'll come to a consensus rating between one and seven. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Christy Lloyd: Is that okay? Gail Osborne: 'Kay. Christy Lloyd: One is true, seven is false. Right. So I won't write all of that out again. It will just be criteria one, two, three, four, five, six, or A_, B_, C_, D_, E_, F_ to confuse it with the number rating. B_, C_, D_, E_, F_. This is where I realise how tiny I actually am. Margarita Arndt: Just write small. Christy Lloyd: Criteria and rating. Actually, it might be an idea, if we each did give our own individual rating, and we could take an average at the end. How about that? Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Gail Osborne: Yeah, Jean Dye: Yeah, Gail Osborne: so Jean Dye: okay. Gail Osborne: you Margarita Arndt: That Gail Osborne: can Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: works. Christy Lloyd: So I'll just separate the ratings by obliques, and if we go one, two, three, four, we know who's who. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Criteria A_, the fancy look and feel. How do we feel about this prototype model relating to fancy it is a fancy look and feel. One is true, seven is false. My own rating for that would be a two. One is true and seven is false. Margarita Arndt: I would agree. Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: I'll just Jean Dye: I'd Christy Lloyd: go Jean Dye: uh Christy Lloyd: this way. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: yeah I'd Gail Osborne: 'Kay. Jean Dye: probably put it uh two yeah, two Christy Lloyd: Two. Jean Dye: or three. No, three. Three. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: I would say two. Christy Lloyd: Two. Gail Osborne: I would say four. Christy Lloyd: A four, okay. Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: Adding those up, we've got a six and a five, eleven divided by four is what? Uh two and three quarters, Jean Dye: Mm Christy Lloyd: it that Jean Dye: yeah. Gail Osborne: Almost Christy Lloyd: right. Gail Osborne: three. Christy Lloyd: Two and three quarters? Gail Osborne: I think yeah. Jean Dye: Yeah, yeah. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Two point seven five, there we go. Okay, criteria B_, criterion B_, technologically innovative. I would give that a three. Jean Dye: I'd give it a one. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Not that you're biased Jean Dye: No, no, Christy Lloyd: in Jean Dye: not Christy Lloyd: that Jean Dye: at Christy Lloyd: it Jean Dye: all. Christy Lloyd: the designer. Margarita Arndt: A two. Gail Osborne: Oh sorry, I I got it wrong. The first one rating, I'm sorry. Can you just make it two? Christy Lloyd: The average Gail Osborne: The first. Christy Lloyd: oh, Gail Osborne: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: for you? Gail Osborne: I I just it Christy Lloyd: You Gail Osborne: the Christy Lloyd: want Gail Osborne: other Christy Lloyd: your Gail Osborne: way. Christy Lloyd: rating to be a two? Gail Osborne: Uh in Christy Lloyd: Is that what you're saying? Gail Osborne: Yep, I just Christy Lloyd: Okay. Gail Osborne: got Christy Lloyd: So, I'll work out the average for that again at the end. It's a very slightly altered Okay, and we're just Gail Osborne: two Christy Lloyd: waiting Gail Osborne: point f Christy Lloyd: for your Margarita Arndt: It's Christy Lloyd: rating Margarita Arndt: just two Christy Lloyd: f Margarita Arndt: point five for that one. Christy Lloyd: Two Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: point five, okay. Losing one decimal place, Gail Osborne: One is Christy Lloyd: that's Gail Osborne: a, Christy Lloyd: okay. Gail Osborne: seven is false, okay. Christy Lloyd: So what are you rating for this one, Paw? Gail Osborne: Two. Christy Lloyd: Two, okay. So that is eight. That brings it down to two, nice Jean Dye: Two. Christy Lloyd: and simple, yeah. Okay, ease of use. Easy to use? Based on what you've said there, I would say a one, true. Jean Dye: Two. Christy Lloyd: Two. Margarita Arndt: I would say a two. Christy Lloyd: A two, okay. Margarita Arndt: I would say a two. Gail Osborne: Two. Christy Lloyd: Two. I should've said a two to make the arithmetic easy, shouldn't I? We'll just put almost two, because Margarita Arndt: One Christy Lloyd: I'm not Margarita Arndt: point Christy Lloyd: gonna get Margarita Arndt: seven Christy Lloyd: into silly decimal Margarita Arndt: f five. Christy Lloyd: places. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Okay, Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: Or we or if we want to really bring it down, we can do later. Um Jean Dye: D_. Christy Lloyd: mm now we're looking at it incorporates current fashion trends, now that's particularly Jean Dye: One. Christy Lloyd: in relation to our market research findings about the spongy texture to the exterior and the fruit and vegetable design colours. Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Right. So I'm just thinking, before I give it my rating, you were limited in the use of materials for your prototype here. Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: Is this Jean Dye: that's Christy Lloyd: actually going to be the colours that you Jean Dye: No, Christy Lloyd: would use? Jean Dye: no, the the base colour was um Gail Osborne: White. With Jean Dye: white Gail Osborne: for the plastic? Jean Dye: or or Gail Osborne: Uh Jean Dye: like Gail Osborne: blue. Jean Dye: or l sort of a light blue, but Christy Lloyd: Right. Jean Dye: the changeable fa faces would uh allow you to get any basically Gail Osborne: Any Jean Dye: any one of a number of colours that uh Christy Lloyd: So Jean Dye: th it's Christy Lloyd: we could Jean Dye: full Christy Lloyd: use Jean Dye: sort Christy Lloyd: any Jean Dye: of customised. Christy Lloyd: strong fruit and veg colours and that's what Gail Osborne: Right. Christy Lloyd: we're Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: intending to do. Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Jean Dye: yeah, Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Jean Dye: yeah Christy Lloyd: Okay. And the Jean Dye: and Christy Lloyd: spongy feel is no problem with that. Jean Dye: No, Gail Osborne: Yeah, Jean Dye: no, Gail Osborne: because Jean Dye: 'cause Gail Osborne: you'll Jean Dye: th Gail Osborne: be Jean Dye: that's Gail Osborne: having a Jean Dye: that's the the spongy feel would be Gail Osborne: Because Jean Dye: in Gail Osborne: of the Jean Dye: the Gail Osborne: rubber Jean Dye: rubber Gail Osborne: case. Jean Dye: that you put round it, that Christy Lloyd: Okay. Jean Dye: otherwise it's just sort of hard plastic. Christy Lloyd: to be a one for Christy Lloyd. Jean Dye: Yeah, I'll give it a one as well. Christy Lloyd: Yep. Everybody? Margarita Arndt: One. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Gail Osborne: One. Christy Lloyd: That part was nice and easy. Jean Dye: Yeah. Gail Osborne: Mm. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Uh moving on to does the design minimise repetitive strain injury. I Jean Dye: Mm. Christy Lloyd: don't think we've really touched on that Jean Dye: No. Christy Lloyd: a lot. We've we've discussed it, we haven't really come up with anything that we felt could feasibly reduce that. We've talked about pointers, but the very use of a remote control, if you're someone who's zapping, who's sitting Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: like that, and we found so many people did, how do you minimise that on such a small device? Margarita Arndt: Well the type of button that we're gonna use in the bottom half, the material, minimises Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Jean Dye: to be. Margarita Arndt: R_S_I_ it's meant to. Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: Um maybe because it's slightl with the size that we've got it's quite small, but with the amount of stuff we're putting on it isn't that much. Christy Lloyd: Mm. Margarita Arndt: So maybe because there's more space, it's not kind of moving around trying to Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: hit accurately the buttons in between. Christy Lloyd: Right. Margarita Arndt: It's quite obvious just big buttons. Christy Lloyd: Right. Margarita Arndt: Um Christy Lloyd: I think I'm gonna have to be neutral on that and give it a four. Jean Dye: Yeah. Yeah, I'd uh I'd f I'd go for a five, Christy Lloyd: A Jean Dye: actually, Christy Lloyd: five, okay. Jean Dye: 'cause Margarita Arndt: Four. Christy Lloyd: Four and Gail Osborne: Four. Christy Lloyd: a four okay. Twenty one is that twenty one? So that's four point two five. Jean Dye: Yep. Christy Lloyd: And finally, last but not least, easy to locate. Now we talked about voice recognition, we talked about a beeper, have we really have the Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: designers come to any Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: dec Jean Dye: it was Christy Lloyd: real decision Jean Dye: it was Christy Lloyd: on that? Jean Dye: uh a Gail Osborne: Voice Jean Dye: voice Gail Osborne: r recognition. Christy Lloyd: It was the Jean Dye: voice Christy Lloyd: I'm here Jean Dye: recognition, Christy Lloyd: thing, yep. Jean Dye: yeah. Christy Lloyd: And are we happy with the costs on that? That is going to Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: be feasible, Jean Dye: yeah, that Christy Lloyd: cost-wise. Jean Dye: yeah, that's feasible. Christy Lloyd: That sounds good then. I'd go for a I ca we can adjust the volume on that, just as we could volume on T_V_. Jean Dye: Um I think Christy Lloyd: So if sombody's Jean Dye: it would Christy Lloyd: in the Jean Dye: r Christy Lloyd: other room or if T_V_s in different rooms, or. Jean Dye: I think it would probably be a Margarita Arndt: A standard. Jean Dye: a stand it would be a stand it would be quite loud. Margarita Arndt: It would Christy Lloyd: Right. Margarita Arndt: be. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Jean Dye: So it would be Christy Lloyd: You Jean Dye: s Christy Lloyd: built into Jean Dye: p Margarita Arndt: And Christy Lloyd: the Margarita Arndt: if Christy Lloyd: feature. Margarita Arndt: you didn't Jean Dye: yeah. Margarita Arndt: hear it in the room that you were standing in, then you'd realise that it wasn't in that room, Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: you'd go into another Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: room. Christy Lloyd: Logical. That's a one for Christy Lloyd. Jean Dye: Yeah, one. Christy Lloyd: One Margarita Arndt: One. Christy Lloyd: and one, good. Jean Dye: I do realise that we might be being fairly biased, 'cause it is our product, but Christy Lloyd: So, how do we feel about this? We've got our our we've got the highest rating of meeting the specifications that is definitely true for two of the uh six criteria there. That is for um incorporates current fashion trends and is easy to locate. The lowest rating we've got, which is really n it's not terribly low, i it's close around neutral is for uh the minimisation of repetitive strain injury. Do we feel on the basis of tha of these evaluation findings that we can go ahead and now produce this as a prototype and market it, or do we have to make further modifications? Margarita Arndt: I don't think so. Jean Dye: W I thin yeah, Christy Lloyd: We happy Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: to Jean Dye: think Christy Lloyd: go ahead? Margarita Arndt: I think we yeah. Jean Dye: yeah. Margarita Arndt: I Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: think we're set. Christy Lloyd: I think for most of those ratings that it's high enough at the upper end of the scale for us to go ahead with that, and I really doubt if on the basis of current technology and our current capabilities, we could actually do much Margarita Arndt: Do Christy Lloyd: more Margarita Arndt: much Christy Lloyd: to minimise Margarita Arndt: apart from having Christy Lloyd: that. Margarita Arndt: a Jean Dye: Mm. Margarita Arndt: huge big Christy Lloyd: I know. Okay. Well, I hope that's uh clear to the team. Is there anything you would like to to ask Christy Lloyd about the findings before I sum up? Margarita Arndt: Don't think Jean Dye: No. Margarita Arndt: so. Christy Lloyd: Good. Fine then. I'll just leave it there. Oops. Margarita Arndt: Okay, thank you. Gail Osborne: Hmm. Margarita Arndt: Okay, I've got finance here now. I'm gonna plug this in so you can all see it, if that's okay. Um. Christy Lloyd: Oh yes. Gail Osborne: You want Christy Lloyd to b unplug that? Gail Osborne: That's all. Yes. Margarita Arndt: Thanks. Margarita Arndt: Right. Gail Osborne: Okay. Margarita Arndt: Now I presume that the screen will go blank, that um Okay. We just type numbers into this and we come out with the final value. So are we still on for kinetic? Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Yes. Margarita Arndt: Okay. See, it woulda been handy to have this at the beginning. Um it might have influenced our choice. Right, what's happening with the electronics? Jean Dye: It was a regular chip Gail Osborne: Chip Jean Dye: on Gail Osborne: on print. Jean Dye: print and Margarita Arndt: Double-curved. Jean Dye: Oh, no, no, no, the um Yeah, it's you you've put in three for the number of kinetic cells, there should just be one. In the top, it's the number of c Margarita Arndt: Oh, Jean Dye: yeah. Margarita Arndt: right, okay. Thanks. Jean Dye: Yeah, and Margarita Arndt: So, would there be two? Jean Dye: yeah, just a no, one reg v uh Margarita Arndt: One chip. Jean Dye: Yeah, one of them and one sample sensor and sample speaker. Gail Osborne: Okay. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Gail Osborne: Yep. Jean Dye: And they're double curved. No. Y Gail Osborne: Single-curved. Margarita Arndt: One double curve. Jean Dye: Two, 'cause it's Gail Osborne: Two Jean Dye: two. Gail Osborne: curves, yeah. Christy Lloyd: But it has a slightly flattened bottom so it can sit. So it Margarita Arndt: So Christy Lloyd: can Margarita Arndt: what's Christy Lloyd: rest. Margarita Arndt: a single curve then? Jean Dye: Yeah, I'd say I'd say Christy Lloyd: It Jean Dye: it Christy Lloyd: would Jean Dye: was Christy Lloyd: just Jean Dye: w Christy Lloyd: be a flat bottom Jean Dye: yeah, Christy Lloyd: with Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: one Jean Dye: think Christy Lloyd: curve. like Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: a domed Jean Dye: think Christy Lloyd: thing. Jean Dye: it's Margarita Arndt: So Gail Osborne: Single-cu. Margarita Arndt: just one double Christy Lloyd: Mm. Jean Dye: One double-curved. Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Jean Dye: And Margarita Arndt: Um Jean Dye: one no, Gail Osborne: Plastic Jean Dye: 'cause one Gail Osborne: and rubber. Jean Dye: yeah, one's double-curved, and then Christy Lloyd: The other Jean Dye: the Christy Lloyd: curves Jean Dye: other one's Christy Lloyd: at the sides, but it's slightly flattened at the bottom so it doesn't roll over. Margarita Arndt: Mm. Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Um Jean Dye: a plastic. Margarita Arndt: we've got plastic and rubber, haven't we? Jean Dye: Yeah. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Plastic one and Jean Dye: And Gail Osborne: maybe Jean Dye: special Gail Osborne: rubber point Jean Dye: colour. Gail Osborne: five. No I think Margarita Arndt: Um Gail Osborne: rubber, since it's being used just as a casing, we can put point five. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Do you think? Gail Osborne: Yeah, I think it allows the point five, yeah. We can use that. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Christy Lloyd: What does it mean if you put point five for that? Gail Osborne: It means we are not using a lot of rubber actually. We're using Margarita Arndt: It would Gail Osborne: just Margarita Arndt: be like saying we're using Gail Osborne: a very low quantity of rubber compared to plastic. Margarita Arndt: See, it says case material. Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: So we're not actually using plastic in the case, Jean Dye: No, Margarita Arndt: are we? Jean Dye: no, that's it's as Margarita Arndt: It's Jean Dye: an Margarita Arndt: including, Jean Dye: extra. Margarita Arndt: it's including. Christy Lloyd: Right, okay. Jean Dye: So that shouldn't that shouldn't be actually on there, because that's not incorporated in the cost of the remote you get. Christy Lloyd: But it is gonna be part of the total cost, and there's nowhere else we can we can put that in, is there? There's nowhere else we can code for the the rubber used in the casing. So do we not have to account for it in the cost somewhere there? Margarita Arndt: Okay, we'll just put it in as we'll put in as half. Christy Lloyd: Okay. Margarita Arndt: Or sh we should just put it in as one, because the plastic is zero anyway. Jean Dye: Yeah, Christy Lloyd: Mm. Jean Dye: okay. Margarita Arndt: No, we don't step on anyone's toes. Okay, special colour, do we need that? Christy Lloyd: Might do, if we go for some of the more exotic Margarita Arndt: N yeah, Christy Lloyd: aubergines Margarita Arndt: okay. Christy Lloyd: and such like colours. Margarita Arndt: Interface. Gail Osborne: Push-button. Jean Dye: Yeah, the push-button's Gail Osborne: One. Jean Dye: one and L_C_ Gail Osborne: An Jean Dye: display one. Gail Osborne: One. Jean Dye: And buttons Margarita Arndt: Buttons Christy Lloyd: S Gail Osborne: I think we could change the battery also. Instead of going for kinetic how about going for a standard battery. Christy Lloyd: Has that not made any d if you click off that square now, has that not made any difference? Jean Dye: Well Christy Lloyd: Is it Margarita Arndt: Has Christy Lloyd: oh, Jean Dye: yes. Christy Lloyd: it's Margarita Arndt: that Christy Lloyd: brought Margarita Arndt: not Christy Lloyd: it Margarita Arndt: gone Christy Lloyd: slightly Margarita Arndt: up? Oh no, Christy Lloyd: down. Margarita Arndt: it was seven five it's changed not Christy Lloyd: So Margarita Arndt: a Christy Lloyd: is Margarita Arndt: lot. Christy Lloyd: is uncurved completely and just actually making the rubber case the curved thing, is Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: that going to make a difference? Gail Osborne: Uncurved, flat. Christy Lloyd: Oh, it's not made any difference, has it?. Jean Dye: No, Christy Lloyd: It's Gail Osborne: No, Jean Dye: we'll Christy Lloyd: gone up Jean Dye: have Christy Lloyd: again. Gail Osborne: it just Margarita Arndt: Oh, it's Gail Osborne: surprises Margarita Arndt: not calculated Gail Osborne: one. Jean Dye: No, no, Margarita Arndt: it. Jean Dye: you've got Christy Lloyd: Oh. Jean Dye: to click off to calculate it again. Margarita Arndt: Okay, there we go. Christy Lloyd: It's brought it down slightly. Jean Dye: C Margarita Arndt: It's Jean Dye: it Margarita Arndt: not Jean Dye: might Margarita Arndt: a lot though. Jean Dye: uh you might you might be assuming that that is in Euros. It could be in Dollars. And then it would be fine, because the exchange range would make it about twelve. Christy Lloyd: Is Margarita Arndt: We Christy Lloyd: there Margarita Arndt: haven't Christy Lloyd: anything on Gail Osborne: I Margarita Arndt: been Gail Osborne: don't Christy Lloyd: the menu Margarita Arndt: dealin Gail Osborne: think so. Margarita Arndt: we haven't been dealing with dollars Christy Lloyd: No. Margarita Arndt: though, I think Jean Dye: No. Gail Osborne: Ri I think it's in Euro. Margarita Arndt: Okay, so the highest we've got is the electronics here. Um Christy Lloyd: If we Margarita Arndt: and Christy Lloyd: tr Margarita Arndt: the Christy Lloyd: um. Margarita Arndt: interface. Christy Lloyd: If we moved away from our much loved idea of a kinetic battery and just Gail Osborne: And Christy Lloyd: went Gail Osborne: going Christy Lloyd: with the Gail Osborne: to Christy Lloyd: standard Gail Osborne: a regular bat Christy Lloyd: batteries, would that make a huge difference? Jean Dye: Yeah, the Gail Osborne: Yeah. Jean Dye: standard, it um it would make one difference. The biggest one would be taking away if you took away Gail Osborne: What I feel is, customers never said Jean Dye: If you Gail Osborne: anything Jean Dye: to Gail Osborne: about the battery. It's internal, nobody looks into the battery. Jean Dye: Yeah. Gail Osborne: But shape and colours, Christy Lloyd: And people are Gail Osborne: that's Christy Lloyd: used Gail Osborne: something Jean Dye: If Christy Lloyd: to buying Gail Osborne: we Jean Dye: if Gail Osborne: shouldn't Christy Lloyd: batteries, Jean Dye: you take Gail Osborne: comprimi Christy Lloyd: they're not Jean Dye: away Christy Lloyd: gonna Jean Dye: the Christy Lloyd: say Jean Dye: voice, Christy Lloyd: I'm not getting Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: this, 'cause Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: I've got Jean Dye: do Christy Lloyd: to Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: buy Jean Dye: don't Christy Lloyd: a Jean Dye: like Christy Lloyd: battery Jean Dye: to say Christy Lloyd: for a Jean Dye: it, Christy Lloyd: remote Jean Dye: but if you Christy Lloyd: control. Jean Dye: take away the voice recognition, then you've got it. Gail Osborne: Where's that special form? Mm mm Christy Lloyd: Should Gail Osborne: mm. Christy Lloyd: we see what difference it makes? Margarita Arndt: Where's the Jean Dye: Yeah i yeah. No Margarita Arndt: where's Jean Dye: 'cause Christy Lloyd: Um Margarita Arndt: the voice recognition? Jean Dye: it's samples sens sample speaker. Margarita Arndt: Right, Jean Dye: If you Margarita Arndt: okay. Jean Dye: took away that, that'll make it twelve point three five. Margarita Arndt: Well the kinetic is three. If we change it to the battery it's that's Jean Dye: They Margarita Arndt: minus three. Jean Dye: n n yeah, but you p minus three plus two. Margarita Arndt: Oh, right. I keep seeing zero. Margarita Arndt: it some other way, we can do it doesn't have to be voice recognition. We could do the voice recognition for, you know, business class or something, you Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: know, like an upgraded version. Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Sure. Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: You could choose to have that Jean Dye: But they Margarita Arndt: or not. Jean Dye: but I mean in I don't see why we have to sell it for twenty five Euros now, because they w they were saying they were quite willing to pay more for better product. Christy Lloyd: But we're still working to Margarita Arndt: So Christy Lloyd: um Margarita Arndt: should we just change the Christy Lloyd: head Margarita Arndt: design Christy Lloyd: o Margarita Arndt: specification then? Christy Lloyd: We can put in our recommendations. Gail Osborne: Make it Christy Lloyd: If Gail Osborne: costly. Christy Lloyd: we if we're Margarita Arndt: Yes. Christy Lloyd: working to head office specifications as this is what this project team's working for, we can Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: put in our recommendations for what we've we've found and what we the consensus that we've come to as a result Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: of Jean Dye: We Christy Lloyd: the meetings. Jean Dye: c we could Christy Lloyd: But we Jean Dye: s Christy Lloyd: need to work to that specification to start with. Jean Dye: Yeah, Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: And Jean Dye: we Christy Lloyd: I Jean Dye: could say Christy Lloyd: think the voice recognition sounds wonderful, but our object is so distinctive that that in itself is gonna make it easier to locate as a f you know in a first instance. Um as you say, we can offer the voice recognition initially to business class customers and so Margarita Arndt: Okay, we can Jean Dye: Yeah, I Margarita Arndt: make Jean Dye: s Margarita Arndt: the price fit, and then say if Jean Dye: And Margarita Arndt: we'd Jean Dye: then say Margarita Arndt: had Jean Dye: we Margarita Arndt: our Jean Dye: recommend Margarita Arndt: budget, we Christy Lloyd: Mm. Margarita Arndt: would've had this, Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: because it also sets it apart from Christy Lloyd: 'Cause Margarita Arndt: the crowd. Christy Lloyd: we've done all the background work Margarita Arndt: They like Christy Lloyd: to go Margarita Arndt: their Christy Lloyd: for Margarita Arndt: gadgets, Christy Lloyd: that if they want Margarita Arndt: they like Christy Lloyd: it. Margarita Arndt: something that's completely different. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: It's Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: s something completely different associated with your company. Right, okay, so Christy Lloyd: So if we take voice recognition out Jean Dye: That'll do it. Twelve point three Gail Osborne: Yeah Jean Dye: five. Gail Osborne: we are close Christy Lloyd: we are. Gail Osborne: to the budget. Jean Dye: Is it twelve point fif Gail Osborne: Two Margarita Arndt: It's Gail Osborne: five. Jean Dye: was it twelve Margarita Arndt: two Jean Dye: point Margarita Arndt: point Jean Dye: fifty? Margarita Arndt: five. No, it's twelve point two five. Christy Lloyd: Are you sure? Sorry, not meaning to doubt your words Margarita Arndt: Yeah well two, Christy Lloyd: there. Margarita Arndt: twelve point two five times two is Christy Lloyd: Right. Margarita Arndt: twenty five, Christy Lloyd: Are they Margarita Arndt: isn't Christy Lloyd: really Gail Osborne: It's Margarita Arndt: it? Christy Lloyd: going Gail Osborne: twelve Christy Lloyd: to quibble Gail Osborne: point five Christy Lloyd: about Gail Osborne: maybe, Christy Lloyd: ten Gail Osborne: then. Christy Lloyd: P_? Or point zero one of a Euro? Which is less than ten P_. Gail Osborne: I don't know what it said fifty percent of the cost. So Margarita Arndt: I think Gail Osborne: half of Margarita Arndt: the agenda Gail Osborne: the price would Margarita Arndt: one Gail Osborne: be Margarita Arndt: was where the um price was, wasn't it? No. Gail Osborne: I think it is the first one. Christy Lloyd: That's today's kick off meeting, Margarita Arndt: Twelve point five. Christy Lloyd: Mm. Jean Dye: Ah. Gail Osborne: So we Christy Lloyd: I Gail Osborne: are under Christy Lloyd: thought Gail Osborne: the Christy Lloyd: that's Gail Osborne: budget. Christy Lloyd: what it was. Margarita Arndt: Well done, people. Christy Lloyd: So we're okay. Jean Dye: Okay. Margarita Arndt: So is that uh got us covered for the electronics then? We don't need Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: something else to take that place? Jean Dye: No. Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: 'Cause that that was just a bought-on extra, you could just take that out and that would be fine, Margarita Arndt: Okay. Jean Dye: yeah. Gail Osborne: Seems fine. Jean Dye: Yeah, I think that's brilliant. Gail Osborne: Except voice recognition, everything is Margarita Arndt: Right, so we've done that. Okay. Product evaluation. We've done room for creativity, haven't we? Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Because Gail Osborne: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: we've got decisions that we would have made that we weren't didn't feel able to make. Um I presume we discussed leadership and teamwork. Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Jean Dye: Yes. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: um in the sense that um did you feel like a team? Or did you feel like uh Jean Dye: Yeah, I'd say, as a team. Christy Lloyd: Although we had our separate Gail Osborne: I think Margarita Arndt: autonomy? Gail Osborne: we Christy Lloyd: tasks, Gail Osborne: had a nice time. Christy Lloyd: there was Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: so much interaction, so much that we needed to um Jean Dye: Find out Christy Lloyd: bounce Jean Dye: from Christy Lloyd: off Jean Dye: each other, Christy Lloyd: each Jean Dye: yeah. Christy Lloyd: other. And I've certainly felt heard, listened to in that in relevant areas we've been able to, you know, give and take and adjust our remit Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Mm-hmm. Christy Lloyd: where necessary. Gail Osborne: Yeah, I think there was uh very constructive feedback by everybody. It's not like people trying to cut each other. There is more of uh true cohesive teamwork. We came to a very predic creative design, yeah. Yeah, and uh Yeah, I think. And Sarah, you coordinated the work very well. Margarita Arndt: Thank you. How did you find it? Jean Dye: Yeah, no, I thought it it went really well and I yeah, I I feel that everyone was listened to and all the points that were raised seem to have been sorted out, although we didn't quite make the voice recognition in there, but that's that's good. Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Jean Dye: I think it would have made it into the final product if it was actually if if if we'd seen the marketing before the initial specification was put out, I think maybe it would've come out a d little different, but Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Jean Dye: yeah. Margarita Arndt: I liked the fact that we could say an idea and it'd be suggested that that wasn't the best idea, but no one felt like shot down, Jean Dye: Yeah. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: you know, y it didn't matter it saying what you thought, because if it wasn't something that was that relevant, then it didn't matter, 'cause it was just another idea in the field. Jean Dye: Mm. Margarita Arndt: I like that. Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Um teamwork. Well you two created that wonderful specimen of a Play-Doh model. Jean Dye: Yeah, well. Gail Osborne: I Margarita Arndt: Um Gail Osborne: think that was the best part of the Margarita Arndt: uh I'm still not caught up. But that's nothing to do with the teamwork at all. Um Christy Lloyd: Maybe we should think of branching out into children's toys and Margarita Arndt: Maybe. Christy Lloyd: fake mobile phones as a side line. And fake Gail Osborne: 'Kay. Christy Lloyd: R_C_s. Margarita Arndt: No, that was quite fun. Um means, whiteboard, digital pens, etcetera, what does that mean? Any Christy Lloyd: How do Margarita Arndt: ideas? Christy Lloyd: we evaluate Jean Dye: Discuss Christy Lloyd: the materials Jean Dye: which ones Christy Lloyd: we had for communicating Jean Dye: yeah. Christy Lloyd: and sharing information? Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Could it've been better, was it adequate? Jean Dye: Yeah, I think I think we probably woulda used the outer email system more, had we actually Margarita Arndt: Had time to kind of Christy Lloyd: Mm. Jean Dye: had had more time and if we'd been separated more. Margarita Arndt: Yeah, 'cause we could just sort of say, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: sorry what did you say about that or what do you think about that, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: rather than having to email it, yeah. Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: But it was nice having it there. Um like the whole picture of the thing. Gail Osborne: Yeah, moving around the room. Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Gail Osborne: But I think it's good, like uh we spent times individually. Gail Osborne: I never thought of a remote control with a flip top. Margarita Arndt: Yeah, I think it's new Christy Lloyd: It's Margarita Arndt: ideas Christy Lloyd: really borrowing Margarita Arndt: in general, Christy Lloyd: from Margarita Arndt: rather Christy Lloyd: other areas, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: than Christy Lloyd: it's, you know, bringing things from other areas in, it so it's I mean nothing is new, Margarita Arndt: Mm. Christy Lloyd: but it's applying it to a d in a different area. Jean Dye: Vegetables. Gail Osborne: That's mine. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: Yeah, no. Gail Osborne: Yeah, it's Margarita Arndt: Well they have to come from somewhere, don't Christy Lloyd: Absolutely, Margarita Arndt: they? Christy Lloyd: yeah. Gail Osborne: The thing Margarita Arndt: And Gail Osborne: is Margarita Arndt: as sh as w sorry, you Gail Osborne: Yep, sorry, go on Sarah. Margarita Arndt: go. Um as was shown by your presentation with all of the other controls, remote controls, no one's thought about it Jean Dye: No. Margarita Arndt: particularly. Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: I mean they're slightly different, so if someone's been shut in the room and said make ours a bit different from everyone else's, 'cause it's Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: w something we should think about, but obviously no one's put any Jean Dye: Yeah, Margarita Arndt: great Jean Dye: I Margarita Arndt: deal Jean Dye: do Margarita Arndt: of thought into it. Jean Dye: I don't think the the companies are really concerned. They're just like we've got a D_V_D_ player, does anyone remember the remote control? Can't you get the one that we used for the last one? Yeah, Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Jean Dye: just jazz it up a bit. Margarita Arndt: Mm. Jean Dye: Uh Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Jean Dye: d they don't really think about it, because normally, the remote control isn't the product which they're trying to ship. They're trying to ship Christy Lloyd: Yeah, Jean Dye: the D_V_D_ Christy Lloyd: the focus Jean Dye: player, Christy Lloyd: isn't on Jean Dye: the video Christy Lloyd: to that, Jean Dye: player, Christy Lloyd: yeah. Margarita Arndt: But then when Jean Dye: the T_V_. Margarita Arndt: it everything is really smart, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: and you've just got this big chunk of black Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: thing sitting on your coffee table, it doesn't go, I Jean Dye: No. Margarita Arndt: mean if you could have something that's a proper funky Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: thing, a funky item that's individual, individual to you, I mean they could even go into um you go in with an idea and they design it on Photoshop and then they just get it printed on the plastic, Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: you would pray you would pay a lot extra, because it's individually being a plastic was being made for you. Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: But people could have anything that they wanted. Jean Dye: Mm. Gail Osborne: Surprising Margarita Arndt: Because of the Gail Osborne: to Margarita Arndt: produ Gail Osborne: Christy Lloyd is like uh people give a lot of attention to modifying mobile phones, Margarita Arndt: Mm. Gail Osborne: like a real want to see a new launch or something like that. Jean Dye: Yeah. Gail Osborne: And new f television products coming up, but nobody giving uh much idea to this. Christy Lloyd: I think Gail Osborne: Like Sarah Christy Lloyd: it's Gail Osborne: was telling, Christy Lloyd: really Gail Osborne: everything's Christy Lloyd: good that this has been very market research based, Gail Osborne: Right. Christy Lloyd: because just going back to mobile phones, I mean this is the first change in remote control devices that I can really, you know, say is is obvious and visible. We see it in mobile phones a lot, and tha that's where we've borrowed a lot of our ide our ideas from. There are innovations in that that people don't really want. Margarita Arndt: Yes. Jean Dye: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: I see people wanting a model of the phone they were really happy with, and they can't get it anymore Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: and it's innovation for innovation's sake, and I think it's wonderful our company's so R_ and D_ based. Margarita Arndt: Well, it's Gail Osborne: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: innovation for money's sake. The Christy Lloyd: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: the people have to keep Christy Lloyd: But Margarita Arndt: buying. Christy Lloyd: forcing it onto people, Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: yeah. It's things that, you know, they might want to buy the thing they Margarita Arndt: And Christy Lloyd: really Margarita Arndt: you Christy Lloyd: want. Margarita Arndt: can't get you've got your handset that works fine, but you can't get the battery anymore Christy Lloyd: Mm. Margarita Arndt: for that type of phone, Christy Lloyd: Mm. Margarita Arndt: because the phones have moved on, things like Christy Lloyd: Or Margarita Arndt: that. Christy Lloyd: there isn't a cover to fit it or Margarita Arndt: Yes. Christy Lloyd: whatever, yeah. Margarita Arndt: It's madness. Um Christy Lloyd: See I think Margarita Arndt: In closing There we go. Um our costs are below budget with recommendations that they the budget be increased, but I think I don't know, d what do you think? Do you think that's takes into account um overheads like us being well paid kind of a thing? And the heating Jean Dye: Well. Margarita Arndt: for the building, do you think our budget includes everything, all the costs that are going out? Christy Lloyd: I think it was just the produc uh just Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: the Jean Dye: think Christy Lloyd: production Jean Dye: that was just Christy Lloyd: cost Jean Dye: the Christy Lloyd: of the phone. Jean Dye: the physical. Margarita Arndt: So it looks well it looks like it's gonna be fifty percent profit, you've Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: still got Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: all of the overheads to come out of that. So Jean Dye: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: maybe increasing it, you would also have to increase the price that it's sold at. Gail Osborne: Maybe Jean Dye: Yeah, Gail Osborne: fifty Jean Dye: I Gail Osborne: percent Margarita Arndt: But Jean Dye: think Margarita Arndt: I Gail Osborne: more. Margarita Arndt: think but you were saying that that's quite Jean Dye: yeah Christy Lloyd: But Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: I Jean Dye: don't Christy Lloyd: think in the remit Jean Dye: from Christy Lloyd: that Jean Dye: the market Christy Lloyd: we were given, Jean Dye: research. Christy Lloyd: it was very specific. I think we've done what we were required to do, Margarita Arndt: Hmm. Christy Lloyd: and I think there'll have to be another project team or a new project for us to look at at those kind of things. I don't think that's something we have to look at Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: and Jean Dye: No. Christy Lloyd: find a way of raising the cash for. Jean Dye: Yeah, it Christy Lloyd: I Jean Dye: was Christy Lloyd: think we've done very well to get within budget and Margarita Arndt: Mm. Christy Lloyd: it still makes such an innovative item Margarita Arndt: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: that I think people are really gonna want. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Margarita Arndt: It's a shame it won't ever get made. Christy Lloyd: I know. Margarita Arndt: Maybe Christy Lloyd: Maybe Gail Osborne: Who Margarita Arndt: it Christy Lloyd: it Gail Osborne: knows? Christy Lloyd: will. Margarita Arndt: will. Christy Lloyd: Maybe they are gonna steal Margarita Arndt: Maybe Christy Lloyd: our ideas Margarita Arndt: someone'll Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: and Jean Dye: it's Christy Lloyd: sell Margarita Arndt: r Christy Lloyd: it. Margarita Arndt: run Jean Dye: top secret. Margarita Arndt: down and patent it. Jean Dye: Um it's it is it's a conspiracy going on here. Margarita Arndt: Um Jean Dye: That's what it is. Margarita Arndt: the project has been evaluated well and truly. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Christy Lloyd: Mm-hmm. Margarita Arndt: Um and we've got the meeting survey and questionnaire. Gail Osborne: There's a final questionnaire. Margarita Arndt: Oh, so we've got about fifty minutes to catch up with everything that I fell behind with, so I'll be delegating in my um Jean Dye: In Margarita Arndt: role Jean Dye: your Margarita Arndt: as Jean Dye: yeah. Margarita Arndt: Project Supervisor, so good luck. Gail Osborne: Celebration, you didn't talk about that. Margarita Arndt: I think the celebration is the twenty five pounds. Either that or we'll be dancing on the desks. Oh. Christy Lloyd: Questionnaire. Jean Dye: Okay. Is that it then? Margarita Arndt: Um yeah, just the last, I think. Jean Dye: Awesome. Margarita Arndt: I think I've got minutes for two of the meeting and the last thingy. Christy Lloyd: Questionnaire done. Oh, I didn't have to rate you on how much you influenced the meeting this time. Jean Dye: Was that not the questionnaire for the how you felt you'd done in your thing? Christy Lloyd: Oh, right. But Jean Dye: I Christy Lloyd: do we not Jean Dye: don't Christy Lloyd: sometimes Jean Dye: think. Christy Lloyd: evaluate in these meetings Jean Dye: Yeah, the Christy Lloyd: too? Yeah. Jean Dye: the s yeah. I think yeah, questionnaire seven was the one I did just before the meeting. Gail Osborne: Yeah. Jean Dye: Mm. Margarita Arndt: I just got con

Margarita Arndt went over decisions from the previous meeting. Jean Dye presented the prototype and discussed its look, its internal components, and its interface. Christy Lloyd evaluated the product according to the initial product goals. The group then decided that enough of this criteria had been satisfied for the project to continue. Margarita Arndt presented the final cost of the device which exceeded the initial projected price point. The group decided to remove speech recognition but to propose to the management that it remain in the design. The group then discussed their effectiveness as a team. All members felt that they interacted well and that they felt they could be creative. Christy Lloyd felt that the market-research based approach would help the project's success with consumers. The group did express, however, that the budget was overly constraining. Margarita Arndt instructed the group to fill out a final evaluation questionnaire.

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Melodie Fitzgerald: Um minutes from the last meeting which were essentially that we uh had decided on roles for each of you, however, um there are some changes that I've got from on high that Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: um are a bit uh well w what I didn't actually realise it was that the uh this is for a specific television. Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: So the all in one idea goes out the window. And Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: they require that the uh actually I'll get to that at the end point number four, um we'll what you've and then we can see what we can adapt from it. So um, presentations, were you anybody got, Candida Meurer: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: raring to go? Candida Meurer: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Raring to go? Okay. Good stuff. Mm. Candida Meurer: Um. Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh Candida Meurer: So Melodie Fitzgerald: I need to Candida Meurer: how Melodie Fitzgerald: plug you in. Candida Meurer: S Meaghan Acosta: Wow. Melodie Fitzgerald: Just about. Marie Keegan: It's a inspired design. Candida Meurer: Sh do you want Candida Meurer to hold it? Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh there we go, just screw 'em on in. Gonna have to swap them round so now, Candida Meurer: So, after that? Melodie Fitzgerald: it was function F_ eight. Candida Meurer: F_ eight. Melodie Fitzgerald: That's the Candida Meurer: f Melodie Fitzgerald: wee blue one. Candida Meurer: oh sorry F_ eight. Melodie Fitzgerald: Blue one F_ eight. Should Candida Meurer: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: do it, good one. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Uh, Candida Meurer again, Rajan Candida Meurer. Uh, as we have decided in the last meeting that I have to find out, sorry, Melodie Fitzgerald: Hold on, sorry. Candida Meurer: yeah sure. Melodie Fitzgerald: and if you just click that it'll go ahead, one Candida Meurer: Yeah, Melodie Fitzgerald: at a time. Candida Meurer: yeah. Uh actually, sorry I have to see the other, sorry. Melodie Fitzgerald: Sorry, uh. Candida Meurer: Yeah, thank you. Uh I have look at the market potential for uh, like consumer likings and everything, what is the potential for this product and are we able to achieve our a net profit or our aims or not? Then Melodie Fitzgerald: P press F_ five to start it first. Candida Meurer: Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I can, Marie Keegan: Hmm. Candida Meurer: okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Jesus. Candida Meurer: Uh then uh the methodology I adopted to find out all this was market survey. A a detailed market survey on consumers was done to find out their likings and dislikings, what they prefer what they not prefer, w what problems they do encounter in all this type of things. And what we got was, we found that if you uh, what they th what problems they are having with different uh remote controls available in the market. Seventy five percent of users they do find it that the remote controls available in the market are ugly. They are not so good looking. So, we have to put stress on this, uh we have to take care of this fact also like our design, uh should be appropriate, should be good looking for the consumers. And yes that's wi uh this will definitely, this can definitely put uh uh enhance our sales. Uh and even uh the good thing about this is that eighty percent of users they are willing to pay high uh pay more for this uh good looking remote controls also. So even if the available market goes for the available uh even if the market goes for the available remote control is less even then we can sell it at twenty five Euros, which maybe which may seem quite high but if our looks are are if the re remote control we design have a good better uh better look uh designs, then we can hope that consumers will prefer these g remote controls. Melodie Fitzgerald: Excellent. Candida Meurer: Then And the second thing, some some companies they think that they should have more and more functions of the users uh or in their remote controls, but rather than those having more functions in the remote controls we should emphasise what actually consumer want, what they operate, rather than making it too complicated. Because mostly it has been found that fifty percent of the users they use only ten percent of the buttons, so there is no point of having ninety percent buttons making the remote controls too bulky, too complicated too expensive a because I think I believe that technology is useful only if uh the consumers they want to use it. Otherwise there is no point of having all this type of things. So this will not only reduce the cost of our remote controls but it will increase our profit also. So we have to take care of this fact also. Then. Uh it was function I want to go to. Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh you wanna go back? Just escape. Candida Meurer: Uh, escape, okay thank you. Then if we look at this slide, Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Candida Meurer: uh these are in your shared documents, you can see, Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Candida Meurer: like Uh, Meaghan Acosta: So, Candida Meurer: sorry. Meaghan Acosta: sorry I was just gonna say, what was the question for this? Or is are you coming on to that? Candida Meurer: Ah t look all the market potential, what Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Candida Meurer: uh how we should design consu our remote controls, what they should be there so as to en enhance our profit, enhance Meaghan Acosta: So these percentages Candida Meurer: our sales. Meaghan Acosta: are Candida Meurer: Yeah, Meaghan Acosta: are what? Candida Meurer: these are different age group persons like uh sorry, I can open it in another way. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Candida Meurer: Uh, Melodie Fitzgerald: Speech recognition. Candida Meurer: yes. If we look at the costs whether the consumers they are willing to uh pay more for speech recognition in a remote control or not, we can find that they up to a thirty five years age group we have a very good disliking for this uh this uh point, like for speech recognition in a remote control. So we can emphasise on this point also like, because it will definitely enhance our sales in this Meaghan Acosta: Hmm. Candida Meurer: ag in this particular age group from uh fifteen to thirty five, and I uh and I think that most of the users of the rem uh T_V_ are belong to this age group. Melodie Fitzgerald: Hmm. Candida Meurer: So we Melodie Fitzgerald: We're als Candida Meurer: should look Melodie Fitzgerald: we we're looking at who buys it as well. Candida Meurer: Yeah. We can look at that that factor also, so yes. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh, which I think the twenty five to thirty five is uh usual, sort of. Meaghan Acosta: Mm, Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: mm. Candida Meurer: So, and And then Melodie Fitzgerald: Fifteen to twe Candida Meurer: Yes. I think so. Uh if we look at this data how how uh h how what are the problems the consumers are facing with the existing remote controls in the market. They find that thirt uh thirty five percent uh thirty four percent of the consumers they find too difficult to operate a remote control. So it should be in such a way that it should be easy to learn how to operate these remote controls and we should provide pl uh spe uh proper manuals for its use also so as that people consumers could easily learn. They need not to have any, much technical knowledge Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Candida Meurer: to see uh to know how to operate these remote controls. Candida Meurer: So Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Candida Meurer: um this is all about uh market potential by Candida Meurer. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Candida Meurer: Uh, yes, th Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay, thank you. Candida Meurer: thank you. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, follow on with Helen? Yeah Meaghan Acosta: Yep, sure, Melodie Fitzgerald: please. Meaghan Acosta: that's cool, um Candida Meurer: Yeah we have to Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh, Candida Meurer: take Melodie Fitzgerald: so Candida Meurer: that Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: we do yeah. Candida Meurer: out. Sorry. Melodie Fitzgerald: Fun and games. Candida Meurer: Sorry. Melodie Fitzgerald: Don't know if the cable's gonna be long enough. Candida Meurer: Uh sorry, Melodie Fitzgerald: I think Candida Meurer: I Melodie Fitzgerald: I Candida Meurer: have. Melodie Fitzgerald: just kicked over whatever it runs on underneath as well. Candida Meurer: Brian, this one also I. Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: I Candida Meurer: Thank Meaghan Acosta: can Candida Meurer: you Meaghan Acosta: turn Candida Meurer: very much Meaghan Acosta: my Candida Meurer: Brian. Meaghan Acosta: computer quickly if that's okay. Candida Meurer: If you want Candida Meurer to help, Meaghan Acosta: Um, Candida Meurer: yeah. Meaghan Acosta: yep. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: Okay, and then what do I press, F_ eight? Candida Meurer: Uh F_ eight. Melodie Fitzgerald: Function Candida Meurer: Function Melodie Fitzgerald: F_ eight. Candida Meurer: F_ eight. Meaghan Acosta: Oh right. Candida Meurer: Mm s. Meaghan Acosta: Okay cool. Candida Meurer: It's not coming. Meaghan Acosta: Oh. Candida Meurer: Function F_ eight, okay. Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. No signal. Melodie Fitzgerald: Hmm. Candida Meurer: Computer. Melodie Fitzgerald: There you go. Candida Meurer: Computer adjusting, Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Candida Meurer: yeah. Meaghan Acosta: Cool. Okay Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: and then how do I press the the big one, to get it on Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh Meaghan Acosta: to the big Melodie Fitzgerald: F_ five. Meaghan Acosta: F_ five and I press that again to get it off as well Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, Meaghan Acosta: do Candida Meurer: Escape. Meaghan Acosta: I? Melodie Fitzgerald: F_ five and escape'll bring it back and just uh the left button for advancing. Meaghan Acosta: Okay, so um I'm the interface design designer, User Interface Designer sorry, uh I'm concerned with um w what effect the apparatus should have on the user and um I'm I'm also I want to point out that our motto, put the fashion in electronics, so obviously we as a company we want to make our products trendy and fashionable, it's a big concern of ours. Okay, and how do I press n just the next button? Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh just Meaghan Acosta: The arrow? Melodie Fitzgerald: a left uh Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: left Meaghan Acosta: So Melodie Fitzgerald: mouse button. Meaghan Acosta: um I looked at existing designs and also um the information that Raj gave us was very useful about what people like, what people dislike. Um and what people fashionable, because we said people between twenty five and thirty five Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: were the main um buyers of of our T_V_ I think. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: So um what they like and what they find fashionable. Melodie Fitzgerald: 'Kay. Meaghan Acosta: And ergonomics, we said um, I don't know I haven't actually been able to do any of this myself, but um maybe that comes up, I don't know. Melodie Fitzgerald: That can come under Meaghan Acosta: And Melodie Fitzgerald: Arlo as Meaghan Acosta: the Melodie Fitzgerald: well. Meaghan Acosta: findings, well the basic that was the basic function to send messages to the television set. That's Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh. Meaghan Acosta: what people want to do. Um, so they need to be included, um, but I've got some pictures here of some leading ones. I don't know how to get to them, do I press Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh Meaghan Acosta: F_ Melodie Fitzgerald: if Meaghan Acosta: five Melodie Fitzgerald: you Meaghan Acosta: is it? Melodie Fitzgerald: if you escape Meaghan Acosta: escape? Melodie Fitzgerald: then you can see your bar. Meaghan Acosta: Oh okay, cool. I haven't got my glasses on so I hope it's this one. These Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh Meaghan Acosta: are two Melodie Fitzgerald: okay. Meaghan Acosta: leading um remote controls at the moment. You know Melodie Fitzgerald: 'Kay. Meaghan Acosta: they're grey, they've I mean this one's got loads of buttons, it's hard to tell from here what they actually do, and they don't look very exciting at all. Um, personally I prefer this one just because it's looks easier use, it's a bit more sleek with more of this silver stuff, Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: um, but there you go, that's what we're up against, and I think we can do much better than that. Marie Keegan: Of course. Meaghan Acosta: Um Melodie Fitzgerald: We hope so. Meaghan Acosta: hang on. F_ five, okay, sorry. Personal preferences. Um, well I think we need to l I think the ergonomics is quite um important, um Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, particularly if we've uh there was a bit in Raj's about R_S_I_ and things as well. Meaghan Acosta: Uh-huh. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: And um I thought not too edgy and like a box, more kind of hand-held more um not as uh computery and Melodie Fitzgerald: Organic. Meaghan Acosta: or organic, yeah, more organic shape I think. Um simple designs, like the last one we just saw, not too many buttons and as Raj pointed out, only ten percent fifty percent of people only use ten percent of the buttons, Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: so I think what we can miss out on the buttons we can make up for in Melodie Fitzgerald: Sales, Meaghan Acosta: design and and how nice it looks. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: Um, hand-held and portable I think is portamint is important because T_F_T_ have just um released um I think is it a a remote control for presentations or uh and Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah Meaghan Acosta: a big Melodie Fitzgerald: it's Meaghan Acosta: seven Melodie Fitzgerald: like a, Meaghan Acosta: inch Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah. Meaghan Acosta: big screen, anyway, so um Melodie Fitzgerald: It's. Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, no seven inches isn't that big but um anyway um so hand-held and portable and uh m Melodie Fitzgerald: Right. Meaghan Acosta: I thought about other functions for T_V_ but as you pointed out people don't actually want that, so Melodie Fitzgerald: And Meaghan Acosta: maybe Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: we Melodie Fitzgerald: also Meaghan Acosta: forget about that. Melodie Fitzgerald: the company want to keep it stuck to the T_V_ for uh to keep down the Meaghan Acosta: It's Melodie Fitzgerald: production Meaghan Acosta: for one Melodie Fitzgerald: time. Meaghan Acosta: T_V_ oh right okay, sure. And so the last thing I thought w which I quickly mentioned in the other one was maybe a bit of a gimmick to Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: set us apart from other people, like glow-in-the-dark Candida Meurer: Exactly. Meaghan Acosta: um Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: which does already e exist but it's not very Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: widely used I don't think. Easy finder with the a whistle function Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: or something, or rechargeable station because it's a pain when you run out of batteries. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: And I think that, yep, that's it. Melodie Fitzgerald: That's cool. Marie Keegan: So Meaghan Acosta: Okay? Marie Keegan: uh, I noticed your talk about speech recognition and whistling, Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: and uh I was just curious to know, have we done any research into how many people can whistle? Um, or if is that a function we want in the remote? Meaghan Acosta: Um, Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, Meaghan Acosta: I haven't Melodie Fitzgerald: do you have Meaghan Acosta: been Melodie Fitzgerald: trouble Meaghan Acosta: able to Melodie Fitzgerald: whistling? Marie Keegan: I don't, but I I know a lot of people do right. Melodie Fitzgerald: Really? Ooh. Marie Keegan: Yeah it just I mean it has to be a certain kind of whistle too, right? Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, I suppose Meaghan Acosta: yeah Melodie Fitzgerald: that's true. Meaghan Acosta: or Melodie Fitzgerald: Well Meaghan Acosta: some Melodie Fitzgerald: I suppo Meaghan Acosta: sort Melodie Fitzgerald: uh you could Meaghan Acosta: of Melodie Fitzgerald: y you could Meaghan Acosta: voice Melodie Fitzgerald: have the you could have the basically um instead of a whistle if it's got the voice recognition you could have it just, you know, where are you? Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Marie Keegan: That's costly though. Um a much easier thing is just any loud noise like clapping Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: um, Melodie Fitzgerald: Hmm. Marie Keegan: shouting, Candida Meurer: Yeah. Marie Keegan: you know, Melodie Fitzgerald: Sounds Marie Keegan: uh Melodie Fitzgerald: good. Marie Keegan: and then, what would the response be? It beeps back at you or something? Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, something. Marie Keegan: Okay. Well, uh let Candida Meurer set this up. So I plug it in, press F_ five? Function F_ five? Melodie Fitzgerald: Function F_ eight for the um Marie Keegan: Or function F_ eight? Melodie Fitzgerald: the uh Marie Keegan: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: Oh you need to twiddle the thingamibobsy thing. Marie Keegan: Okay. I think it's uh just to lock it in. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: It's got it. Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Marie Keegan: Okay. Um. So as Marie Keegan my job is to take an input from you guys, Melodie Fitzgerald: Alright. Marie Keegan: um so it's good you went first, and Melodie Fitzgerald: Let's Marie Keegan: I jotted Melodie Fitzgerald: remember Marie Keegan: down some Melodie Fitzgerald: that. Marie Keegan: notes as to what are the b needs and uh what kind of novel features we can add to differentiate our product from the others. Um so Raj told us that uh consumers are willing to spend more for fancy products, and um he also mentioned that uh the current products don't always match users' operating behaviour. Um, a lot of the buttons aren't used, and uh he mentioned that they're not fun to use. And uh a novel feature which uh we just brought up was this this automatic speech recognition feature or noise detection feature for when you lose the remote, there could be a little microphone on it, and any noise over a certain threshold um it'll pick up as a a distress signal um Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: from you and it'll beep back and say you know oh here I am or Melodie Fitzgerald: But Marie Keegan: something Melodie Fitzgerald: sure Marie Keegan: of this Melodie Fitzgerald: surely Marie Keegan: sort. Melodie Fitzgerald: that would have to be um sort of specific rather than above a threshold 'cause if you had a loud movie on you're likely Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: to get it Marie Keegan: Oh Melodie Fitzgerald: beeping Marie Keegan: yeah, Melodie Fitzgerald: back at you. Marie Keegan: yeah, Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: that's true. Well maybe you could have a um hmm tha that would be a consideration to take into account yes. Um. Melodie Fitzgerald: Sorry I didn't mean to derail you there. Marie Keegan: Yeah well tha that's uh for later down the road um, and then as for the user interface it should be trendy, um and not computery, right, so more low tech and not too many buttons. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: So I took these all into consideration and also I have some limitations from the boss. Right um, and practical limitations which I kinda threw out the window. And so I did a little research and unfortunately all I had to work on was our uh our corporate archives of the great products we've made before, which include, you know, um space craft, coffee makers, and bullet trains Melodie Fitzgerald: Ah is Marie Keegan: Or Melodie Fitzgerald: that what Marie Keegan: uh Melodie Fitzgerald: that is? Marie Keegan: or a high speed train. Right and having personally worked with all these products uh I have a great deal of experience with uh Melodie Fitzgerald: Well Marie Keegan: with industrial Melodie Fitzgerald: that's cool. Marie Keegan: design of Melodie Fitzgerald: If Marie Keegan: these. Melodie Fitzgerald: you if you can build space craft you'll have no problem with a Marie Keegan: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: remote control, Meaghan Acosta: Yeah sure. Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah. Marie Keegan: So, I figured, just put 'em all together. You got a a caffeine powered space shuttle train transport to your T_V_, and um Candida Meurer: Hmm. Marie Keegan: as for the user interface problem, you know, too many buttons. Give it one button and and it's a you know, for the the cowboy in all of us I I'm not quite sure what the the function is there Melodie Fitzgerald: Right Meaghan Acosta: Well Marie Keegan: but Meaghan Acosta: I like Melodie Fitzgerald: okay. Meaghan Acosta: that design. Marie Keegan: Yeah it's a g I mean you could have a you know a Melodie Fitzgerald: Is that just switches on the speech recognition and it's entirely speech operated, is it? Marie Keegan: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: So I think I I missed the budget thing, it was fifty million Euros? Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: And we gotta sell twenty five of them? Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, Marie Keegan: Right. Meaghan Acosta: not a problem. Candida Meurer: Fifty Marie Keegan: Okay. Candida Meurer: million Melodie Fitzgerald: Ah now Candida Meurer: was Melodie Fitzgerald: it's fif Candida Meurer: uh Melodie Fitzgerald: fifty Candida Meurer: prof Melodie Fitzgerald: million Euros we've gotta uh Candida Meurer: As a profit. Melodie Fitzgerald: we've Marie Keegan: Oh okay, Melodie Fitzgerald: g Marie Keegan: so I I Melodie Fitzgerald: gotta Marie Keegan: mixed Melodie Fitzgerald: make Marie Keegan: those Melodie Fitzgerald: profit, Marie Keegan: numbers. Melodie Fitzgerald: so we're making that at twelve and a half Marie Keegan: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Euros a time. Marie Keegan: Well I guess more realistically then, we need a product that's got some kinda nifty outer casing, cheap plastic uh, you know, um Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: that should be just like uh a tenth of the price maybe or less. An energy source which'd probably just be uh your regular batteries Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Marie Keegan: um, we don't Melodie Fitzgerald: Would Marie Keegan: wanna Melodie Fitzgerald: it Marie Keegan: have Melodie Fitzgerald: be Marie Keegan: it Melodie Fitzgerald: possible to have the rechargeable idea? Is that is Marie Keegan: Uh. Melodie Fitzgerald: that gonna Meaghan Acosta: Or Melodie Fitzgerald: mark Meaghan Acosta: a little Melodie Fitzgerald: up Meaghan Acosta: base Melodie Fitzgerald: a lot? Meaghan Acosta: station or Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: something, Marie Keegan: Yeah, yeah, we could do that too. Um, I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: That might cost more though, 'cause obviously with batteries we don't need to provide, well we provide the first batteries, but Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, yeah. Meaghan Acosta: it's more, it's that's cheaper Marie Keegan: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: I mean Meaghan Acosta: to Melodie Fitzgerald: if Meaghan Acosta: just Melodie Fitzgerald: you think Meaghan Acosta: provide Melodie Fitzgerald: about Meaghan Acosta: batteries. Melodie Fitzgerald: these base stations now it's essentially just a a lead with a sort of Meaghan Acosta: A Melodie Fitzgerald: self Meaghan Acosta: battery in it, Melodie Fitzgerald: connecting Meaghan Acosta: kinda. Melodie Fitzgerald: brake in it, so Marie Keegan: Right, Melodie Fitzgerald: I don't Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Marie Keegan: so Melodie Fitzgerald: think it'd up up Marie Keegan: so the Melodie Fitzgerald: the price that much. Marie Keegan: unirs Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Marie Keegan: the user interface uh the canonical user interface for these would be just a bunch of buttons, but since we're a cutting edge company, we uh of course will have alternatives like uh speech recognition, whistling recognition and rocket power Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Marie Keegan: behind our product. Um and lastly the transmission interface is uh, just some engineering thing you don't have to worry about. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Marie Keegan: Um so here's you know, a great schematic that my uh apprentice designer gave Candida Meurer. Um as you can see the the remote control have parts and those parts look like that and um you know it's got a little operating procedure that looks something like that. And I suppose you all know how it works because we've all used it and we wouldn't be in a company designing remote controls if we didn't know what they were so uh personal preferences, I think uh programmable options which um just require a small amount of memory, uh non volatile memory, just um Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Marie Keegan: so the user can put in their favourite channels and maybe their preferred volume settings so that when they turn it on it's not blasting. Meaghan Acosta: Mm that's a good idea actually I like the programmable Candida Meurer: Yeah, Meaghan Acosta: options. Candida Meurer: Candida Meurer too. Marie Keegan: Oh okay. And the uh, the bells and whistles that we mentioned you know, they take more budgeting, um more technical uh expenditure of effort and it's also much more likely to not work if Melodie Fitzgerald: Right. Meaghan Acosta: Mm 'kay. Marie Keegan: if we add these bells and whistles. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: That's all I got. Melodie Fitzgerald: 'Kay, thank you very much, um I'll take that back. Marie Keegan: Ooh that's tight. Melodie Fitzgerald: Right, also so um a notice I got not very long before the meeting, so didn't manage to forward it on to you, it is let's see, I'll find it myself, um Ta Marie Keegan: Okay, I don't think we need to screw it in. Melodie Fitzgerald: nah. Marie Keegan: Just push it. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: We had that um to dis-include teletext um because it's become outdated, and everybody uses the internet anyway. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, dunno what Oracle would have to say with that but never mind. Um it's only for the television, which I'm presuming means it's for a specific television, Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: and um instead of colours and sorta colour options, they want corporate colour and slogan somehow implemented in the new design. Meaghan Acosta: Corporate colour. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yellow. Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Marie Keegan: Yellow. Melodie Fitzgerald: I presume. Um, everything, all their sort of uh you know the uh corporate website and everything's yellow. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: electronics uh I don't know exactly how sort of incorpor I mean, I guess if you're going for a sort of globular shape you could kind of have it working its way round it or Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: something. Uh, Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: where am I? Okay, so, we have to decide on which functions we're going to actually have. Meaghan Acosta: 'Kay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh, now, we had as listed options we had speech recognition potentially, flat screen interface, L_C_D_ interface um we also want to limit the number of buttons Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: so we'll pretty much take that one as read. We'll Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: use the the basic functions for a television. No teletext. Um okay Meaghan Acosta: Although Melodie Fitzgerald: hold Meaghan Acosta: the Melodie Fitzgerald: on. Meaghan Acosta: the danger with that is, it could look a bit cheap. Melodie Fitzgerald: Not enough buttons you mean? Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Well Melodie Fitzgerald: So sorta strike a balance between a a few and a Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: or it looks like we're just cutting on the um Meaghan Acosta: On the number of buttons, kind of Melodie Fitzgerald: I Meaghan Acosta: functions Melodie Fitzgerald: do however Meaghan Acosta: and stuff. Melodie Fitzgerald: have this from over my head, Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: that they don't want teletext on it. Meaghan Acosta: Okay, cool. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh maybe Raj you could find out what people would think about that, or maybe they'll send Candida Meurer: About Melodie Fitzgerald: some information Candida Meurer: cost. Melodie Fitzgerald: about that, about um what people, whether people would require um teletext in a remote teletext option in a remote control. Candida Meurer: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay um. So uh I take it your position Arlo is that the bells and whistles we've gotta come up with the a gimmick but not too complicated a gimmick. Marie Keegan: Yeah yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um so I mean a a the sort of inkling I'm getting from little bits of um web chatter that I'm getting sent is that they're quite interested in a T_F_T_ display, interactive display. However that does sound a bit like the more complicated design that rav uh sorry Raj um said people didn't like. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, Melodie Fitzgerald: Although Meaghan Acosta: mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: I guess if there's a sort of If you think about standard interfaces that people use already, sort of Windows-style Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: drop down menus or whatever, I think maybe that's a Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: bit, going a bit far but you know like in a basic sense that you could have your basic selection of buttons, and if you hit a sort of menu at the top you have um it goes to a different selection of buttons, Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: so it sorta keeps it simple. Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um glow in the dark, is that sort of with a light inside it or is it sort of Meaghan Acosta: Um Melodie Fitzgerald: glow in the dark material? Candida Meurer: Uh. Meaghan Acosta: Glow in the dark material Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: I was thinking. Melodie Fitzgerald: So Meaghan Acosta: Um, Candida Meurer: I Meaghan Acosta: so I I guess that would be cheaper than a light Candida Meurer: Uh may Meaghan Acosta: I Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: think. Candida Meurer: I say something about? Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Candida Meurer: Uh actually I think it's really really very important point uh as if we look at the market because people mor fifty percent people they find that the remote controls are often lost somewhere in the remote, in the room. But Meaghan Acosta: Often lost s was Melodie Fitzgerald: Lost, Meaghan Acosta: that, Candida Meurer: yeah Meaghan Acosta: yeah. Candida Meurer: are Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah. Candida Meurer: lost and means they forget where they have kept the remote control last time. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Candida Meurer: But if we add speech recognition as well as glow in the dark then both these factors will help their locating the Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Candida Meurer: remote control, like if they come and speak something at the remote control uh replies to something something and it glows in the dark. Both these factors uh both these points will help them to locate the Melodie Fitzgerald: That's Candida Meurer: where Melodie Fitzgerald: cool. Candida Meurer: they have Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, Candida Meurer: kept this remote control, Meaghan Acosta: mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: That's Candida Meurer: and Melodie Fitzgerald: cool. Candida Meurer: this will definitely enhance our uh market sales, so we should take it into consideration also. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay, cool. Um Marie Keegan: Well hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: speech recognition I take it Marie Keegan: Oh Melodie Fitzgerald: I don't, Marie Keegan: it's Melodie Fitzgerald: I've I know of no products um Marie Keegan: They're act Melodie Fitzgerald: that Marie Keegan: there Melodie Fitzgerald: use Marie Keegan: there Melodie Fitzgerald: speech Marie Keegan: was Melodie Fitzgerald: recognition Marie Keegan: a remote control Melodie Fitzgerald: well. Marie Keegan: that came out two years ago that had a some basic speech recognition on it. You could programme it with your channels and then you say you know like uh B_B_C_ one and it goes to that channel. Melodie Fitzgerald: Really? Marie Keegan: Yeah, it didn't work very well though because of this noise interference problem. Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: They mentioned you know if the television says you are listening to B_B_C_ one. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, or a yeah an advert an advert for B_B_C_ two on B_B_C_ one'll switch the channel for you kinda thing. Marie Keegan: Right, right, and so there was a lot of this, you'd be watching the T_V_ and then all of a sudden it'd it'd pick up a noise and turn it off or you know Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: or Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm. Marie Keegan: turn the volume off or something, Meaghan Acosta: 'Kay. Marie Keegan: but if you can work around that that noise problem Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh-huh. Meaghan Acosta: Well what about this might get a bit too expensive actually, but what about um something that's built into the T_V_ um that you can press and it'll send out a little signal you know like the ones that we can't hear or something Melodie Fitzgerald: Ah, that's a good idea. Meaghan Acosta: um that that will activate the remote control starts Marie Keegan: Right. Meaghan Acosta: to beep. Melodie Fitzgerald: So like a kind Meaghan Acosta: If Melodie Fitzgerald: of Meaghan Acosta: you find Melodie Fitzgerald: backwards Meaghan Acosta: if y Melodie Fitzgerald: remote from the telly. Marie Keegan: Right Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Marie Keegan: and then it would do just you know, uh subtractive kind of cancellation of the noise. What you could do then would be you have uh a remote controlled by the T_V_ speaker, or not a remo I'm sorry, a microphone by the T_V_ speaker and a transmitter there that sends back to your remote, 'cause you can't um expect uh the the television manufacturers to Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Marie Keegan: to put that feature into their Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, Marie Keegan: T_V_s. Meaghan Acosta: that's the only thing, yeah. Marie Keegan: But Melodie Fitzgerald: Right. Marie Keegan: yeah, then you have like the little se separate module by Melodie Fitzgerald: That Marie Keegan: the Melodie Fitzgerald: we Marie Keegan: T_V_ Melodie Fitzgerald: should just stick Marie Keegan: speaker Melodie Fitzgerald: on, yeah. Meaghan Acosta: That Marie Keegan: which Meaghan Acosta: comes with our remote control. Marie Keegan: Right, Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: and then Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Marie Keegan: the remote control would know um Melodie Fitzgerald: And that's Marie Keegan: what's Melodie Fitzgerald: a Marie Keegan: being produced by Melodie Fitzgerald: sort Marie Keegan: the television. Melodie Fitzgerald: of basic R_F_ kind Marie Keegan: Right, Melodie Fitzgerald: of Marie Keegan: right. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: frequency so it'll be cheap. Marie Keegan: Right, right. Um. Yeah that's certainly possible then an another thing was about this losing the remote and trying to find it again. If you do have this sorta speech interface to it, you don't even need to find it. You just say you know, um whatever you whatever you want the remote for, you know to change the channel or to uh turn the T_V_ on and off, you just shout your command to it and it would do it for you if it's within you know, within hearing range. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh-huh. Marie Keegan: And uh you know it could be somewhere in the room y that you've no idea where it is and it would still do its job. Meaghan Acosta: That could also be built into the T_V_ though, which might make our remote control a bit obsolete. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Marie Keegan: Well, hopefully Melodie Fitzgerald: It might Marie Keegan: we're Melodie Fitzgerald: do Marie Keegan: uh Melodie Fitzgerald: us out of a job. Marie Keegan: we're ahead Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, Marie Keegan: of the curve. Meaghan Acosta: okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um Okay. I like the whole sort of remote feedback thing. Um so I think rather than and that also kind of takes out the speech recognition Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: in terms of the interference of it not working very well and things like that, Marie Keegan: Hmm. Meaghan Acosta: And the expense. Melodie Fitzgerald: so I th yeah and expense Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: and the time. So I think if we're going to go well I mean like the thing about the there's the problem with the T_F_T_ or the L_C_D_ kind of thing is if you're also wanting the the kind of uh organic globby sort of feeling to it then you might have trouble incorporating the screen. Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, but I guess not I thin we'll just we'll just pretend that's not a problem. Um uh and how are you about the glow in the dark material? Is that Marie Keegan: Um. Meaghan Acosta: Maybe not even all of it 'cause we said um colours and fashion w were important so maybe um just like a little l line that's kind of around the outside Marie Keegan: Mm. Meaghan Acosta: and then you can make the rest a different Melodie Fitzgerald: Contrast Meaghan Acosta: colour. Melodie Fitzgerald: contra Marie Keegan: Yeah, Melodie Fitzgerald: well. Marie Keegan: no th the material's cheap but it's just uh the the glow in the dark material needs some light to charge it you know, Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: and Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, Marie Keegan: then uh Melodie Fitzgerald: okay. Marie Keegan: if you're, Melodie Fitzgerald: So if Marie Keegan: if Melodie Fitzgerald: it's Marie Keegan: you're Melodie Fitzgerald: dow Marie Keegan: sitting Melodie Fitzgerald: it's Marie Keegan: in the dark Melodie Fitzgerald: d uh Marie Keegan: for Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah. Marie Keegan: too long it uh it won't glow Melodie Fitzgerald: Or Marie Keegan: any Melodie Fitzgerald: if Marie Keegan: more. Melodie Fitzgerald: it's down under the couch cushions Marie Keegan: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: um which is where I usually find mine. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um Okay, well we can use we can still use the glow in the dark as a gimmick essentially, Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, 'cause Melodie Fitzgerald: um Meaghan Acosta: what I thought, main Melodie Fitzgerald: if we're gonna have to if we're gonna have the logo on as well, bright yellow logo in our our um slogan. Meaghan Acosta: Slogan, yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh then you know they're gonna be fairly brightly coloured anyway, and Meaghan Acosta: Right. Melodie Fitzgerald: we can have sort of a a a trimming as well, of Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: the glow in the dark material, just as gimmickyness. Meaghan Acosta: 'Cause yeah, that w more than finding it, that was more like you know if you're watching a film in the dark, Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: you can um Marie Keegan: Mm-hmm. Meaghan Acosta: still see the remote control. Melodie Fitzgerald: Alright, so n sorta Meaghan Acosta: That was more Melodie Fitzgerald: if Meaghan Acosta: of a Melodie Fitzgerald: if Meaghan Acosta: a gimmick. Melodie Fitzgerald: if we're gon if we're gonna go with the idea of um uh of feedback, sort of remote finder, then that kinda stuffs that one out then. Do you think? Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh it makes it fairly unnecessary then. Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, unnecessary. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, okay so scratch that. Uh so we've got do we want to go with the T_F_T_ idea or the Marie Keegan: Um Melodie Fitzgerald: is that Marie Keegan: yeah we're getting Melodie Fitzgerald: far Marie Keegan: a lot Melodie Fitzgerald: too Marie Keegan: of features Melodie Fitzgerald: expensive? Marie Keegan: now, I I think Melodie Fitzgerald: Well I mean I think I think the sort of find the finder things I mean it's uh I could probably write the circuit diagram for that myself. Marie Keegan: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: Um Marie Keegan: Well, I think a consideration too is that these uh remotes get abused a lot, you know they get thrown Meaghan Acosta: Mm. Marie Keegan: around, there's a good chance the the T_F_T_ screen would break Melodie Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: or uh get damaged. They're pretty fragile. Meaghan Acosta: So is Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: that one of our definite requirements that they wa that it needs a T_F_T_ Melodie Fitzgerald: Um Meaghan Acosta: screen? Melodie Fitzgerald: no, I mean that was going on ravs uh Raj's sort of um marketing research I guess. Um Uh So we'll stick with sort of programmability um for the buttons that we do have. Um. So that's sort of included in your sub-module kind of stuff, um Marie Keegan: Yeah mm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh you were finding out about teletext. If you Candida Meurer: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: could find out that uh Candida Meurer: Totally, it takes cheap speech recognition, she Melodie Fitzgerald: Um I think Candida Meurer: they Melodie Fitzgerald: we're gonna Candida Meurer: wi Melodie Fitzgerald: scratch the speech recognition as a bit of a Marie Keegan: Oh. Melodie Fitzgerald: um Meaghan Acosta: Yeah you think so? Melodie Fitzgerald: expensive, no? Marie Keegan: Oh no it's it's much cheaper than the T_F_T_, it's just a microphone Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh right, okay. Marie Keegan: and some some integrated circuits. Melodie Fitzgerald: Is it Marie Keegan: And Melodie Fitzgerald: not Marie Keegan: it'd Melodie Fitzgerald: the circuits Marie Keegan: it'd be a small Melodie Fitzgerald: that Marie Keegan: vocabulary Melodie Fitzgerald: cost Marie Keegan: speech recognition system, like a Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh right, okay. Uh Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: well that kind of takes back the R_F_ the R_F_ remote sort of idea as well. Um. Five minutes. Okay. Decisions. Uh, votes, let's vote. Who wants T_F_T_? No-one does. Excellent, so we'll go with speech recognition, yeah? Candida Meurer: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, Marie Keegan: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: that's Melodie Fitzgerald: Um, Meaghan Acosta: cool. Melodie Fitzgerald: speech recognition, limited buttons, organic design. Meaghan Acosta: Um Melodie Fitzgerald: And what else was I thinking of that I haven't written down and therefore fallen out my head, programmability. Candida Meurer: Glow in dark. Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh Meaghan Acosta: if it's not too expensive s I think it's a good Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh Meaghan Acosta: gimmick. Melodie Fitzgerald: o Marie Keegan: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: okay. And also, integrating the, remember to integrate the logo and the s slogan. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay, so. Um can you put all these reports in the project documents folder if they're not already in there as well. So, it just helps Candida Meurer Marie Keegan: Yeah Candida Meurer: Here? Melodie Fitzgerald: summarize Marie Keegan: yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: them. Candida Meurer: Sure. Melodie Fitzgerald: And um I'll put any I'm I'm putting anything I do in there anyway, so uh Meaghan Acosta: And where is it sorry? Melodie Fitzgerald: Uh pro uh project documents. On Marie Keegan: So it should be when you save Melodie Fitzgerald: A_M_I_ scenario controller. Marie Keegan: on your desktop, so it goes save as, Meaghan Acosta: Oh. Marie Keegan: or Candida Meurer: Uh it is in shared documents? Marie Keegan: And then uh hit that little folder up thing Melodie Fitzgerald: Where Marie Keegan: again. Melodie Fitzgerald: am I? Candida Meurer: Projoct Melodie Fitzgerald: Project Candida Meurer: uh projector. Marie Keegan: Again. Melodie Fitzgerald: documents, yeah, it's on your desktop Marie Keegan: All the Melodie Fitzgerald: as Marie Keegan: way Melodie Fitzgerald: well. Marie Keegan: to the top, yeah that's up to desktop. Right and then project documents. Meaghan Acosta: Okay, cool. Candida Meurer: Hmm. It is not giving anything. Shared documents. Melodie Fitzgerald: And I will tr getting strings of um information, I'll try and forward any specific to anybody in particular, as soon as I get them now, rather than I was about to sort of tell you about the changes before the meeting, and then the meeting turned up, so Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Marie Keegan: Mm. Did you get my email? Melodie Fitzgerald: I did. Marie Keegan: Okay. Just making sure. Meaghan Acosta: Okay. Melodie Fitzgerald: So Meaghan Acosta: What I thought as well about the material is um maybe not this kind of material, but maybe more like um this kind of rubbery material, it's a bit more bouncy, like you said they get chucked around a lot. Um, a bit more durable and Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. Meaghan Acosta: that can also be ergonomic and it kind of feels a bit different Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: from all the other remote controls. The rubber Marie Keegan: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: rather than Melodie Fitzgerald: More sort of um flesh-like than plasticky sort of. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Marie Keegan: Wow. Candida Meurer: Um but we have to take care like But we have to take care of our children also if they means if children catch hold of your or if they chew it it shouldn't be too harmful. So, whatever material we use Melodie Fitzgerald: Oh no, ethics, Candida Meurer: it should be Melodie Fitzgerald: that's Candida Meurer: yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: gonna cost us money. Candida Meurer: So we have to safety point of view also, Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay, Candida Meurer: we have to Melodie Fitzgerald: safety. Candida Meurer: take care. Meaghan Acosta: Oh I think wi with the more organic shape of it it won't be as it won't as have many sharp corners as that, so that's something Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: good, um I dunno, Melodie Fitzgerald: It Marie Keegan: We Melodie Fitzgerald: sme Marie Keegan: could Meaghan Acosta: I mean Marie Keegan: go Melodie Fitzgerald: smells Marie Keegan: comp Melodie Fitzgerald: good for children. Marie Keegan: yeah. Candida Meurer: Yeah. Marie Keegan: We could go completely out of the box and make the thing a big red ball foam ball. And it's got the thing on the inside. And there's no buttons at all, it's always on, and just yell at it, Meaghan Acosta: That's Marie Keegan: and it works. Meaghan Acosta: a good Melodie Fitzgerald: That Meaghan Acosta: idea. Melodie Fitzgerald: sounds, Marie Keegan: And then Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah Marie Keegan: ch children Meaghan Acosta: Interesting. Melodie Fitzgerald: it's gonna Marie Keegan: will Melodie Fitzgerald: have Marie Keegan: love Melodie Fitzgerald: to be Marie Keegan: it. Melodie Fitzgerald: it's gonna be have a big yellow Marie Keegan: Oh Melodie Fitzgerald: foam Marie Keegan: yellow, Melodie Fitzgerald: ball, Marie Keegan: yellow Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah, Marie Keegan: ball. Meaghan Acosta: d Melodie Fitzgerald: sorry. Marie Keegan: Right. Meaghan Acosta: with the colour, um does it have to be all yellow, do you know? Melodie Fitzgerald: Please God no. Um. Meaghan Acosta: No. Melodie Fitzgerald: Well, I wouldn't th I mean, my reaction to an all-yellow remote control wouldn't be anything other than horror, so Meaghan Acosta: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: I think just having it Candida Meurer: Small Meaghan Acosta: Having Melodie Fitzgerald: surrounding Candida Meurer: logo Meaghan Acosta: a little bit. Melodie Fitzgerald: the logo. Candida Meurer: with Meaghan Acosta: Okay Candida Meurer: the Meaghan Acosta: cool. Candida Meurer: like a small yellow strip or y yellow with the Meaghan Acosta: Mm Candida Meurer: logo Meaghan Acosta: mm. Candida Meurer: in it. Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah. Meaghan Acosta: Mm-hmm, okay. Cool. Melodie Fitzgerald: And I'll see if I can argue with boss about putting the what was it? We put we put fashion into Whoops, it's not working. Can't believe I've forgotten it. We put the fashion in electronics. Meaghan Acosta: Oh yeah, that's Melodie Fitzgerald: I Meaghan Acosta: a good one that. Yeah Melodie Fitzgerald: bet Meaghan Acosta: so. Melodie Fitzgerald: that'll catch on well. Okay, any last Candida Meurer: Yeah. Melodie Fitzgerald: worries, queries? Marie Keegan: Twelve thirty. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay. S Candida Meurer: Hmm. Melodie Fitzgerald: s I know what you're thinking. Okay then, lunchtime, yay. Candida Meurer: That's good. Melodie Fitzgerald: Okay, that felt a bit more like a something with order and and reason to it than the last one. This is quite fun actually. Meaghan Acosta: Wow. Marie Keegan: Mm. Meaghan Acosta: Has anybo oh. Melodie Fitzgerald: I really Meaghan Acosta: Has anybody Melodie Fitzgerald: don't Meaghan Acosta: pressed okay, it vibrates. It's Melodie Fitzgerald: Yeah, Meaghan Acosta: pretty Melodie Fitzgerald: yeah. Meaghan Acosta: cool. Marie Keegan: Yep. Candida Meurer: Check here. Melodie Fitzgerald: Wow you've your first page. I Meaghan Acosta: Yeah, Melodie Fitzgerald: was just writing really Meaghan Acosta: got small Melodie Fitzgerald: big. Meaghan Acosta: writing. Marie Keegan: Yeah I've been using up the pages. Meaghan Acosta: I don't wanna waste it. Melodie Fitzgerald: I've finished the meeting now. Oh, everybody Marie Keegan: Another Melodie Fitzgerald: needs Marie Keegan: questionnaire. Melodie Fitzgerald: k questionnaire.

Candida Meurer presented requirements of users as found in a company market study. The study showed that users want a fancier-looking but uncomplicated remote control, and are interested in speech recognition. He presented the age groups polled and said that the target marketing group should be users aged fifteen to thirty-five. Meaghan Acosta presented several competitors' remotes and discussed the features that would make their own device more user-friendly. Marie Keegan gave a presentation on important internal components that would keep the project within its budget, and discussed possible materials and programmable features. Melodie Fitzgerald gave several new requirements for the project to the group. The group discussed the features they would like to incorporate into the design in light of the new requirements and budget constraints. They decided to keep speech recognition as one of their components, and decided to include some programmable features, limit the number of button functions, and make the remote yellow and glow-in-the-dark, in an organic shape. The Program Manager said that he would ask to what extent the company motto had to be incorporated into the design.

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Charlotte Nolasco: Um we are So the meeting will have about the same format as the last time. So switching over I've just left uh Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: my first two screens. Um I have mailed you the minutes of the last meeting uh just to save time. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Cool. Charlotte Nolasco: Um and is there any questions you have that arised from last meeting that are particularly bothering you? Latoya Andersen: Mm um. Charlotte Nolasco: N Latoya Andersen: No I don't think so. Charlotte Nolasco: No? Okay, cool. Virginia West: No. Charlotte Nolasco: Then we shall start with a presentation from Raj. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Hi, Andrea Blood Raj, again Uh. in this meeting I I'm going to discuss about the trend watching, uh how these trends is going to affect our market potential and how important is this. So we have to look on this. First of all methodology. The met methodology to find out the trend was incl uh was done in a way We have done a rec not only a recent remote control market survey, but we also considered the latest fre fashion trends of the market, we think that this is also a factor which will affect our sales and profit. So what are our findings? In our uh in our findings we have seen that when we did our remote control market survey we found that uh people l uh people do have preference for tho fancy mobi uh f remote controls which look and feel very good, rather than having a functional look and feel uh good. So this sh this clearly indicates their preference for the design their outlook of the remote controls. So we should take into uh we should consider this factor as the most important factor, because this factor is twice as important, the second factor which is further ti twice the as important as the sec as uh the third factor. So this factor becomes the most important factor in our surv uh uh in our mark uh means in take in designing our rem uh remote controls. Latoya Andersen: The last one is the most important one, is Andrea Blood: No Latoya Andersen: it? Andrea Blood: the first Latoya Andersen: Oh, sorry. Andrea Blood: one is the uh the outlook of the mobile, the it should have a fancy outlook, Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: the fancy design Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: uh rather than just having a functional look and feel good, it should have a fancy look and foo feel good. The second most important aspect is that remote control should be a technologically uh innovative. We must have some technological advancement in the remote control tha rather than just putting it as it is as the other remo uh remote controls are. So it uh should be technologically innovative like glow-in-the-dark or speech recognition, something like that. So that indicates our technological advancement. Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Andrea Blood: And the third most important aspect in the ta to take into consideration is that it should be easy to use, Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Andrea Blood: like it shouldn't be too much co complicated, there shouldn't be too many buttons on this mobi uh remote control, it shouldn't be too complicated uh like this way. And it should be uh and customers should be provided with manuals that is easy to understand in their local language, something. So that they could know how to use these remote controls. When we did uh f fashions uh, recent fashion uh our recent fashion update shows that Latoya Andersen: Sorry. Andrea Blood: Ah yeah? Latoya Andersen: I was just reading fruit and vegetables. Hard to know how we are going to incorporate that. Andrea Blood: Y yeah uh yeah, we have to, because uh d you can see how people have related their clothes, shoes, and everything with fruits and vegetables, because the g world is now changing it's trend towards organic, Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: becoming more and Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: more organic, becoming Virginia West: We should make a big sponge lemon and Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Virginia West: then it'd be it would be yellow. Andrea Blood: So Latoya Andersen: Th Virginia West: It's Yeah. Latoya Andersen: that's Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: very good. Andrea Blood: So something Latoya Andersen: Glow-in-the-dark. Andrea Blood: like that we we should do. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: And people uh the f feel of the material is expected to be spongy rather than just having a plastic look, hard look. Latoya Andersen: Well, that's Virginia West: Mm. Latoya Andersen: good. That's Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: what we kind of Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: predicted Andrea Blood: So Latoya Andersen: anyway. Andrea Blood: so that they could play with it while handi uh while handling it. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: So that should also be taken Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: into consideration. So Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: these are my views. So Latoya Andersen: spongy, not real spongy, you can Andrea Blood: No it Latoya Andersen: Do Andrea Blood: ca Latoya Andersen: you think like rubber would be good or does it Andrea Blood: y Latoya Andersen: really want to be Andrea Blood: a The Latoya Andersen: like gel kind of Andrea Blood: rubber Latoya Andersen: stuff? Andrea Blood: which is good for health and which is quite disposable Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: that we Latoya Andersen: Quite Andrea Blood: can take Latoya Andersen: disposable. Andrea Blood: into co Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: 'Cause we It shouldn't be have any harm to the environment also, Latoya Andersen: Oh Andrea Blood: because Latoya Andersen: okay. Charlotte Nolasco: Alright, Andrea Blood: our company Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Andrea Blood: is very well for taking all these concerns into consideration, Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Andrea Blood: so we don't want to have any harm to the society, Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: so Charlotte Nolasco: Fashion. Latoya Andersen: Cool. Charlotte Nolasco: Mm Andrea Blood: So Charlotte Nolasco: 'kay. Andrea Blood: that's all. Charlotte Nolasco: Fruit and veg, well there you go. Just what I think of Latoya Andersen: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: when I think of a Latoya Andersen: A remote control? Charlotte Nolasco: remote control. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. And were there any factors that weren't important in the survey, that they said we don't want? Andrea Blood: S uh we Latoya Andersen: Or Andrea Blood: didn't Latoya Andersen: was it just Andrea Blood: find out any such Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: point. Uh Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-mm-mm-mm. Andrea Blood: yes, there could be, but we couldn't find out any, Latoya Andersen: Cool. Andrea Blood: so Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Latoya Andersen: F_, what is it? Um. Charlotte Nolasco: Function F_ eight. Latoya Andersen: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Hmm. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: No signal. Andrea Blood: Oh no, Latoya Andersen: Is that? Virginia West: No, Andrea Blood: Yeah, Virginia West: it's got Andrea Blood: uh yeah, Virginia West: it's got Andrea Blood: uh yeah. Virginia West: it. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Okay, Charlotte Nolasco: Excuse Latoya Andersen: and then Charlotte Nolasco: Andrea Blood. Latoya Andersen: F_ five, right? Charlotte Nolasco: Uh, yeah. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Um okay, so the interface concept um. Yeah. The interface specification, what people um how they interact with it basically, I think. Um so the method, we looked at existing designs, what are the what's good about them, what's bad about them, um I looked at their flaws, so we're going to look at their flaws, everything. Um and what the survey told us and what we think would be good, so a bit of imagination. Charlotte Nolasco: Mm 'kay. Latoya Andersen: Uh the findings, I've got some pictures to show you as well. Charlotte Nolasco: either. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: Hmm. Latoya Andersen: Okay, so most remote controls use graphical interface, where you um have got s buttons and you point it rather than having the output as a a stream of text or something. Charlotte Nolasco: Uh okay. Latoya Andersen: Um and we also found that there's inconsistent layout, which makes it confusing. So I think for our remote control There is some inconsistency already in ec existing in between remote controls, but I think standard kind of um shape and uh play and those kind of but buttons like the the top right for on and off or something, I think, Charlotte Nolasco: Right, Latoya Andersen: people Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Latoya Andersen: find that Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: important,'cause then it's easy to use. And we've got some pictures of some uh new remote controls to show you. Do Charlotte Nolasco: Excellent. Latoya Andersen: I press Escape F_ five? Charlotte Nolasco: Uh Latoya Andersen: Or Charlotte Nolasco: no Latoya Andersen: just Charlotte Nolasco: just escape Latoya Andersen: Escape, Charlotte Nolasco: should Latoya Andersen: okay. Charlotte Nolasco: uh Latoya Andersen: Um, oh I still haven't got my glasses on. Yeah, okay. So these are the some of the pictures of existing ones. Virginia West: Wow. Latoya Andersen: I'll just walk you through them. This one is a voice recognition. And Charlotte Nolasco: 'Kay. Latoya Andersen: that's the kind Charlotte Nolasco: Looks Latoya Andersen: of idea Charlotte Nolasco: pretty Latoya Andersen: we're going Charlotte Nolasco: complicated. Latoya Andersen: for. There's um an L_C_D_ thing, which we thought could I thought could get a bit confusing and a bit Charlotte Nolasco: Right, Latoya Andersen: expensive Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Latoya Andersen: as well for us. This one is got a kind of scroll like a mouse, Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-hmm, Latoya Andersen: which Charlotte Nolasco: like the middle button. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Latoya Andersen: Um and But I'm not exactly sure how you'd use that, like Charlotte Nolasco: Ah it's Latoya Andersen: would Charlotte Nolasco: kinda Latoya Andersen: the Charlotte Nolasco: like scrolling Latoya Andersen: computer Charlotte Nolasco: uh Latoya Andersen: come Charlotte Nolasco: right, well, if I s if I'm thinking of the right one, I've got the same thing in front of my monitor, you scroll it and the when you reach the sort of um menu item that you require, you press the Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh, Charlotte Nolasco: middle Latoya Andersen: that's like Charlotte Nolasco: of the scroll. Latoya Andersen: the L_C_D_ one, is Charlotte Nolasco: Right, Latoya Andersen: it? Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Latoya Andersen: But the one below that has got like a little scroll function on the side. But I presume that the functions must come up on the T_V_ screen. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: I Charlotte Nolasco: presumably. Latoya Andersen: think Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: that's what that is. So these are just a few ideas. Again that's just quite boring shape, grey, looks quite space-agey, but too many buttons, I think Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: on Virginia West: Uh Latoya Andersen: that Virginia West: it looks Charlotte Nolasco: looks Latoya Andersen: one. Virginia West: threatening. Charlotte Nolasco: like uh looks like something out Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: of a jet. Latoya Andersen: it does look kind of dangerous. Virginia West: It looks like Andrea Blood: Hmm. Latoya Andersen: Um Virginia West: yeah. Latoya Andersen: this one I thought was really cool. It's w it's got the programmability function that we talked about. You can put it in there, it's for your kids, and it's quite an organic shape and the little circle around there is pretty cool. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Latoya Andersen: And that's really easy to use, bright, so I like this one lot for our design. I think something like that would be good. Virginia West: Wow. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: Of course Charlotte Nolasco: I m Latoya Andersen: yellow. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean the one thing I think about about these ones is um these kl uh secured areas um, I've seen a lot of them with the the cover missing. Latoya Andersen: Right, Charlotte Nolasco: So Latoya Andersen: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: like have it hinge rather than sort Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: of clip on Latoya Andersen: that's Charlotte Nolasco: or whatever. Latoya Andersen: true. Yeah. Um so maybe that could be built into one of the things and it comes up on the T_V_ or something. And this one, the over-sized one, I don't know about you, but I think it's a bit too gimmicky. I don't think Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: that will Charlotte Nolasco: I mean is Latoya Andersen: sell Charlotte Nolasco: that not Latoya Andersen: very Charlotte Nolasco: sort Latoya Andersen: well. Charlotte Nolasco: of to assist the blind or something, is it? Latoya Andersen: I guess so. I don't know. I think Charlotte Nolasco: Strange. Virginia West: Then Latoya Andersen: that's a bit Virginia West: d blind don't watch T_V_. Latoya Andersen: Yeah Charlotte Nolasco: No they do, Latoya Andersen: exactly. Charlotte Nolasco: they do. They Virginia West: They Charlotte Nolasco: listen Virginia West: do? Charlotte Nolasco: to it. Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. And um this one is just pointing out. I like some of these things um the the raised symbols and everything, but pointing out um that this one the volume it is kind of pressing down, but it would actually go up, because Charlotte Nolasco: Right, Latoya Andersen: of the Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Latoya Andersen: shape. So that could that's a bit confusing. Um but the buttons on this I think are it's just showing you how you can have different different um buttons. They don't have to be all the same. So that's quite cool. Um. Charlotte Nolasco: 'Kay but people tend to recognise certain shapes to do certain things anyway, Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: don't they? Latoya Andersen: exactly. Um F_ five. Yes. So there are some of the findings. So we need to combine those ones um Charlotte Nolasco: Brilliant. That's handy. Latoya Andersen: Um yeah it is, just in time, very handy. Um so I think maybe incorporating that in our design would be good. It's you Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Latoya Andersen: program it like you say, record, um and then, play, and then, record, play machine, and stuff like that, so that's And it's much Yeah. So that's quite cool. Uh personal preferences just some imagination, the raised symbols I thought were good, the L_C_D_, it does look smart, but I think maybe for our budget, do you think that would be a bit too expensive to have the Virginia West: The L_C_D_ Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: and the other stuff uh, I think. Latoya Andersen: And the speech recognition, 'cause I think we're definitely going for the speech recognition, are we? Andrea Blood: But in our market survey we have seen that people are willing to pay more, but Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Andrea Blood: they want the quality, they want f fancy look, they want some new design, something new. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Andrea Blood: Uh Latoya Andersen: But our budget, Charlotte Nolasco: It's still Andrea Blood: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: it's still got Latoya Andersen: we've Charlotte Nolasco: to get within Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: our twelve fifty, Andrea Blood: So even Charlotte Nolasco: you know. Andrea Blood: if we increase our cost little bit, within uh some limits, and we give something new technological advancement as well as new design with fancy outlook, Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Andrea Blood: I think we will meet the requirements and we will be able to have a good sales Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: in the market. Latoya Andersen: I'm not Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Latoya Andersen: sure if Virginia West: Ben Latoya Andersen: the if Virginia West: bana Latoya Andersen: for twenty five Euros uh per uh twelve Euros fifty m Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: manufacturing cost, Charlotte Nolasco: I can't see tha Although, th I mean Latoya Andersen: The Charlotte Nolasco: to Latoya Andersen: L_C_D_. Charlotte Nolasco: be to be sure they have got I mean they are going crazy with the L_C_D_ technology now, so that you've got your L_C_D_ T_V_s and everything so maybe the small Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: But I mean like I I the black and white, I guess, it just doesn't look funky enough. Latoya Andersen: No. Charlotte Nolasco: Um but, I mean, like even mobile phones or whatever have now have colour L_C_D_ screens, w Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: I ju Virginia West: Hmm. Latoya Andersen: S Charlotte Nolasco: I mean I wouldn't know about the costs of them. Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Virginia West: But uh Charlotte Nolasco: Twelve Virginia West: price Andrea Blood: And Charlotte Nolasco: fifty. Andrea Blood: the Virginia West: not withstanding, is it, is be just overload? Andrea Blood: Uh Latoya Andersen: Yeah, that's Andrea Blood: i Latoya Andersen: the thing, because Charlotte Nolasco: Possibly. Andrea Blood: it will be easy because there will be, on L_C_D_ s screen, there will be different frent icons, they can just click Virginia West: But but Andrea Blood: ok okay, whatever Virginia West: the Andrea Blood: they Virginia West: thing Andrea Blood: wa Virginia West: is when you use a remote control, you never look at it, right? Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: You're looking at the Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: T_V_ Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: and Latoya Andersen: That's true, yeah. Virginia West: and it's uh It just seems kind of like a Latoya Andersen: And one of the Virginia West: a needless Latoya Andersen: survey Virginia West: th Latoya Andersen: findings was that they want it easy to use, so I Charlotte Nolasco: Right. Latoya Andersen: think I'm not sure about the L_C_D_. It's a it's great, it's a good idea, but for our budget and for the thing we're trying to go for eas easy to use, it's not the thing we should go for, I think. Child-friendly, I thought this was good, as you pointed out the um the bit, it often goes missing especially with children, but it's a good shape and the organic is kind of we could make a vegetabley kind of round shape, I think. Virginia West: So which Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: vegetable? Charlotte Nolasco: Well I mean we Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: could make a Latoya Andersen: I know, carrot. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Well, si Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: since we're going for the uh the k the sort of company colours, I think your lemon wasn't that far Virginia West: The the lemon. Charlotte Nolasco: s Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Well what are the options? Charlotte Nolasco: And if it doesn't work you know, Latoya Andersen: But Charlotte Nolasco: we've Latoya Andersen: we don't Charlotte Nolasco: just Latoya Andersen: want Charlotte Nolasco: made Latoya Andersen: it to Charlotte Nolasco: a lemon. Latoya Andersen: be Yeah. Um the child-friendly, yeah. Easy to use, it seems quite easy to use. I like the d the different shapes of the buttons and Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-hmm. Latoya Andersen: stuff. I think Charlotte Nolasco: I Latoya Andersen: that's Charlotte Nolasco: like Latoya Andersen: a good idea Charlotte Nolasco: I like Latoya Andersen: to go Charlotte Nolasco: the colourful Latoya Andersen: for. Charlotte Nolasco: buttons as well. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. And the mouse one, I thought it was a good idea, because people use mo mice mouses now with the scrolling Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: thing. Um. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean we are marketing to sort of twenty five to thirty Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: five, so most people will have come in contact with that Latoya Andersen: S yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: kind of use. Latoya Andersen: So they'd be able to use that um, as I said I think i I'd presume it would come up on the screen. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Um so there Charlotte Nolasco: And Latoya Andersen: you Charlotte Nolasco: that Latoya Andersen: go. Charlotte Nolasco: means tha that means you get to bump that bit to the T_V_ maker, so Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Oh. Latoya Andersen: So that's um the user interface Charlotte Nolasco: 'Kay. Latoya Andersen: design. So Virginia West: Okay. Latoya Andersen: okay, I'll take this out now then. Virginia West: Um Latoya Andersen: There you go. Virginia West: so I guess there are a lot of options that we're gonna have to choose from among, Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Virginia West: and Charlotte Nolasco: looks Virginia West: I'll Charlotte Nolasco: like it. Virginia West: I'll give you the uh, Latoya Andersen: Mm. Virginia West: I guess, technical considerations for those. Charlotte Nolasco: Uh Virginia West: And I'm gonna use the whiteboard, just 'cause we haven't used it. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, I was just thinking the self same Virginia West: Right. Charlotte Nolasco: thing. Virginia West: So, the way I'm gonna do this is uh we're gonna take a look at some old remote controls, see how they work, uh reuse the the vital kind of um essential pieces of it, and then we'll throw in our new innovations um and keep it all within budget. So uh Charlotte Nolasco: Magic man. Virginia West: yeah, looking inside a a very simple remote control. Um this is what they sent Andrea Blood. 'Kay. Here's uh the competition, I suppose. Um you open it up, there's a circuit board inside, Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: um and there's a a chip, a processor, the T_A_ one one eight three five, which um receives input from the buttons, Charlotte Nolasco: So Virginia West: and Charlotte Nolasco: this Virginia West: ch Charlotte Nolasco: is a standard off the shelf kind of a chip, is it? Virginia West: Right, it's very they're very cheap remote. This remote costs nothing, you know. Um so that takes a signals from the buttons and translates it into a sequence of pulses that it then sends to the to the amplifier, which is made of some transistors and amplifiers, op-amps, and then that gets sent to the uh to the L_E_D_ light, which I can kinda see is that little red light bulb Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: at the end, Charlotte Nolasco: Right. Virginia West: and that sends out the infrared uh light signal to the television. Oh here it is. Um so this is kind of the the bear essentials that we need to have in our remote control, because Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Virginia West: it it defines Charlotte Nolasco: So Virginia West: the uh Charlotte Nolasco: can we make them to pretty much any size we like or is there a minimum Virginia West: R Charlotte Nolasco: or? Virginia West: Um no, I mean this is a very old one, so now with the new technology this is a Charlotte Nolasco: They gotta be Virginia West: a minimally small and cheap thing Charlotte Nolasco: Almost Virginia West: to Charlotte Nolasco: a Virginia West: make. Charlotte Nolasco: key-ring. Virginia West: Right. So this is what we need to have for certain. Um. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Virginia West: So you know, as we said, we got the outer casing, which we have to decide, you know, what's it gonna be, um the board we have to use basically uh the same set-up, processor, um we'll probably use the more advanced processor than they had, amplifier and transmitter are all standard. Um so for the casing, uh this an e-mail I got from our manufacturing team uh, you know, we have a bunch of options from wood, titanium, rubber, plastic, whatnot, um latex, double-curved, curved. So Charlotte Nolasco: 'Kay. Virginia West: lots of choices, what do we think? Uh or Charlotte Nolasco: Well. Virginia West: sponge, I guess, isn't on there, right. Latoya Andersen: Mm. Virginia West: Organic Charlotte Nolasco: Well, I mean like Virginia West: sponge. Latoya Andersen: I'm Charlotte Nolasco: la Latoya Andersen: not Charlotte Nolasco: latex Latoya Andersen: sure about the sponge. Charlotte Nolasco: has a kinda spongy feeling to it, doesn't it. Um Virginia West: Uh yeah, it's very elasticy for sure. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: And that would k also give it kinda durability and Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Um. Charlotte Nolasco: and ther that's also f sorta relatively cheap to cast. Virginia West: Yeah so Charlotte Nolasco: Um so maybe s uh a sort of uh plastic initial plastic with a a latex kinda sheath? Virginia West: Okay so, here are a a plastic, uh latex Latoya Andersen: I like the rubber, the stress balls, I think, you know, Charlotte Nolasco: Oh right, Latoya Andersen: that Charlotte Nolasco: okay. Latoya Andersen: could be a bit of a gimmick like it's Virginia West: Oh Charlotte Nolasco: I don't Virginia West: right. Charlotte Nolasco: know what that Latoya Andersen: good Charlotte Nolasco: stuff Latoya Andersen: to hold Charlotte Nolasco: is. Latoya Andersen: and Virginia West: So something with give to it. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Okay. Latoya Andersen: And Virginia West: And Latoya Andersen: that might be quite durable and easy to chuck around. Virginia West: and the colour is yellow, right? Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: Or at least Latoya Andersen: y Charlotte Nolasco: incorporating, Latoya Andersen: yellow Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Latoya Andersen: incorporated, Virginia West: Yellow, Latoya Andersen: yeah. Virginia West: okay. Um. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean I forgot i we're sort of uh I don't know what other Latoya Andersen: I think Charlotte Nolasco: standard silver kind of Latoya Andersen: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: Other parts or uh Latoya Andersen: Yeah, the buttons w like, 'cause there's gonna be the the cover the the rubber or the plastic casing and then the buttons in probably Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-hmm. Latoya Andersen: two different colours or i if Virginia West: Mm' kay. Latoya Andersen: we're having buttons actually, Virginia West: So Latoya Andersen: I Virginia West: yellow Latoya Andersen: don Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Virginia West: for the body, and then what colour for the buttons? Charlotte Nolasco: Um I quite like the multi-coloured buttons myself. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: So multi-coloured buttons. Latoya Andersen: You do have ones like um play could be green or on and off is red, and stuff like that, yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah or yeah a limit uh maybe Latoya Andersen: Makes Charlotte Nolasco: even Latoya Andersen: it Charlotte Nolasco: just Latoya Andersen: easy Charlotte Nolasco: a limited Latoya Andersen: to use. Charlotte Nolasco: multi-colour so it it doesn't look too childish, Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: perhaps. Latoya Andersen: that's true, because that blue one did look Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: quite hardish. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: Although I mean this uh uh also comes to shape as well. I mean if we are gonna make it a novel I mean double-curved sounds good to Andrea Blood if Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: we're talking Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: about sorta ergonomic and easy use, Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: a bit comfier, you know. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Mm 'kay so the shape we wanna go Um how exactly? Maybe double Latoya Andersen: Like uh an hour glass kind of figure, is that what you're thinking of, or Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah Latoya Andersen: just Charlotte Nolasco: it's uh, Latoya Andersen: like Charlotte Nolasco: yeah, Latoya Andersen: a Charlotte Nolasco: that that'd be that's sort of comfortable to hold, easy to hold so you don't Latoya Andersen: It's Charlotte Nolasco: drop Latoya Andersen: not Charlotte Nolasco: it. Virginia West: What about Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: a banana? Yeah? Latoya Andersen: We could make novelty remote controls. Virginia West: Okay, Charlotte Nolasco: Well, yeah, I mean like Virginia West: like we could have a big banana shaped remote control, 'cause it's yellow fruit, Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Virginia West: right? Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Mm Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: and a lemon might be a Latoya Andersen: But Charlotte Nolasco: little Latoya Andersen: then how Charlotte Nolasco: hard Latoya Andersen: would Charlotte Nolasco: to Latoya Andersen: you point Charlotte Nolasco: grip. Latoya Andersen: it? Andrea Blood: Ah Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Andrea Blood: yeah. Mm-hmm. Latoya Andersen: How would you point it? Virginia West: Oh Latoya Andersen: What Virginia West: i it doesn't matter which end you point, I guess. We could have a little L_E_D_s on each end. Charlotte Nolasco: They only cost pennies. Andrea Blood: Yeah, I appreciate this idea, because then this this will help us in our advertisement also and we can relate with fruits and vegetables, the people's choices. That what our data shows that, Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: so this w this Charlotte Nolasco: Huh? Andrea Blood: w Latoya Andersen: y I'm I'm not sure about the banana idea. Virginia West: So a Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Virginia West: spongy Latoya Andersen: Rubber Virginia West: banana Latoya Andersen: banana. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean Virginia West: re Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: that that th Latoya Andersen: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: does it does seem a bit uh again childish maybe. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Okay, okay. Latoya Andersen: I think maybe just draw on the kind of fruit and vegetable shape. And what else did you say about fashions? What was trendy? Andrea Blood: Uh the fashion trend shows Charlotte Nolasco: S Andrea Blood: that fruits and vegetables, Virginia West: See Andrea Blood: like people uh Charlotte Nolasco: And sponginess. Andrea Blood: now Latoya Andersen: And Virginia West: So Latoya Andersen: spongy, Virginia West: maybe an an Andrea Blood: Spongy. Latoya Andersen: yeah. Virginia West: unidentifiable fruit or Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: fiable fruit or vegetable Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: like so it would have a stem perhaps and Latoya Andersen: Maybe, Virginia West: a Latoya Andersen: yeah. Virginia West: maybe a it'd be s Charlotte Nolasco: Huh. Latoya Andersen: Like Virginia West: axially Latoya Andersen: what's Virginia West: symmetric. Latoya Andersen: what's that, I don't even know the name of it, some kind of, you know where it's like looks like a little snowman kind of thing. I don't know the name of that. Virginia West: So it'd look like this kinda. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Virginia West: Like a gourd Charlotte Nolasco: Uh. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Virginia West: almost, Latoya Andersen: maybe that's what they are. Virginia West: or a squash of some sort? Latoya Andersen: 'Cause that you can hold it in like the bottom bit and Virginia West: Yeah, and it has a a clear top and bottom so Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: y so you could say, you know, it transmits from this end. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, why the hell not. Let's Latoya Andersen: I don't know. Charlotte Nolasco: that'll make us fifty Latoya Andersen: What do you Charlotte Nolasco: million Latoya Andersen: guy Charlotte Nolasco: Euros. Latoya Andersen: What do you think? Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Well, I guess it's kind of dra uh you don't necessarily have to have it sort of clearly identified as a fruit just Latoya Andersen: No. Charlotte Nolasco: to have that kind of fruitish shape, Virginia West: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: yeah? Andrea Blood: Yeah, then only we can relate it Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Andrea Blood: with Charlotte Nolasco: we Andrea Blood: something. Charlotte Nolasco: can relate it by advertising Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: or Andrea Blood: Exactly. Virginia West: Okay, so double-curved, single-curved, what do we feel? Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Andrea Blood: Or the public choose Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Andrea Blood: what they want. Charlotte Nolasco: There's Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: a good man. There's a good idea. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Virginia West: Okay um, I guess, since you're the marketing guy. Andrea Blood: Yeah, sure. Virginia West: We'll Andrea Blood: I will Virginia West: uh Andrea Blood: be happy to do that. Virginia West: Okay, we could do that. Um. Latoya Andersen: Okay. And buttons would, did we say? Uh different shapes of buttons? Charlotte Nolasco: Um I l I su I mean for the specific functions, you know, up and down, uh Latoya Andersen: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: play, stop. Virginia West: Okay, Charlotte Nolasco: They've Virginia West: so Charlotte Nolasco: got, I mean, they've got standard sort of intuitive um Virginia West: so buttons. Charlotte Nolasco: things that are always used. Virginia West: Okay, just like that. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: That's cool. I like it. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Virginia West: With the scroll-wheel or no? Latoya Andersen: Yeah, what about the scroll wheel and speech recognition? Charlotte Nolasco: Uh speech recognition, I think, so we need a microphone presumably. Virginia West: Okay uh I could put the microphone here. Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: Okay there's the microphone. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: Where should I put Charlotte Nolasco: I mean Virginia West: the Charlotte Nolasco: ho Virginia West: microphone? Charlotte Nolasco: h h wel are we sure that scroll wheel does give ease of use? Latoya Andersen: Yeah, I'm not sure. Um I mean those ideas I saw were just for inspiration, I think. Charlotte Nolasco: Glad, we're not doing Latoya Andersen: Um Charlotte Nolasco: this for real. Latoya Andersen: yeah, I can no I'm not sure. I couldn Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: And uh I think if this this new software for the sound recognition is the Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: microphone Virginia West: So should the microphone be just anywhere on it or Charlotte Nolasco: I would put it sort of sub-centrally, so it's Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: 'Kay there's the mic. Charlotte Nolasco: So it can be sort of Latoya Andersen: That's Charlotte Nolasco: held Latoya Andersen: cool. Charlotte Nolasco: and w We really need really gonna need to hold it, if it's gonna be voice recognition. Virginia West: Um n well we can Whoops. Charlotte Nolasco: Oops. Virginia West: Um. Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Latoya Andersen: So let's not use the whiteboard any more. Virginia West: Yeah. Um. Charlotte Nolasco: Upsidaisy. Virginia West: Oops, sorry. Okay. Latoya Andersen: And uh so what else was there? Um the What about the glow-in-the-dark thing, the strip around it? Are we just gonna Charlotte Nolasco: I Latoya Andersen: leave Charlotte Nolasco: s Latoya Andersen: that? Charlotte Nolasco: I still like it. Um Latoya Andersen: You still like it. Charlotte Nolasco: but that's Andrea Blood. Latoya Andersen: 'Cause we've got the uh technological innovation with the speech Virginia West: Right. Latoya Andersen: recognition Charlotte Nolasco: Yes, Latoya Andersen: system. Charlotte Nolasco: or maybe it's just going a bit uh too far. I mean we are pushing it probably with Latoya Andersen: 'Cause Charlotte Nolasco: funny Latoya Andersen: um it Charlotte Nolasco: fruit Latoya Andersen: could Charlotte Nolasco: shapes. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Um don't wanna sort of overkill. Latoya Andersen: Especially with yellow. Mm. I dunno. Virginia West: Hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: 'Cause I mean like uh if we I mean how good is the speech recognition thing? Do we want to go for buttons at all, do we want to just have a device that maybe sits and pretends it's a fruit? Latoya Andersen: Then you put it in the fruit bowl? Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, you know, and then Virginia West: They Charlotte Nolasco: you Virginia West: can Charlotte Nolasco: just Virginia West: work Charlotte Nolasco: tal Virginia West: from Charlotte Nolasco: I Virginia West: a Charlotte Nolasco: mean Virginia West: You don't Charlotte Nolasco: like Virginia West: have Charlotte Nolasco: everybody's Virginia West: to hold it. Charlotte Nolasco: got fruit bowl in front of the telly. Virginia West: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Virginia West: I it could even encourage healthier habits for television watchers, Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: you know they have Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: uh fruits Charlotte Nolasco: Make them Virginia West: all round Charlotte Nolasco: make Virginia West: them. Charlotte Nolasco: them think Virginia West: Now Charlotte Nolasco: of fruit, yeah. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Virginia West: just make sure they don't eat the remote. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean uh Latoya Andersen: Yeah, do we Charlotte Nolasco: some Latoya Andersen: need buttons? Charlotte Nolasco: uh I l like think of a fruit that could sit sort of independently on its own like uh, I dunno, an apple. Latoya Andersen: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: Then it's just apple so sort of Uh, Virginia West: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: yellow apples though Hmm. Latoya Andersen: I quite like the shape. I quite like the design of that, uh 'cause that could sit on its own and Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: it's quite Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, Latoya Andersen: got Charlotte Nolasco: yeah, Latoya Andersen: a quite Charlotte Nolasco: that's Latoya Andersen: steady Charlotte Nolasco: good. Latoya Andersen: base. Charlotte Nolasco: Groovy. Virginia West: Okay. Latoya Andersen: Um Virginia West: But Latoya Andersen: and Virginia West: yeah Latoya Andersen: as we say we n we don't wanna be too ridiculous with the fruit things Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: you know. Virginia West: But yeah, about the speech thing, it doesn't have to be hand held or close. It can sit at a distance and Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: pick Latoya Andersen: Okay. Virginia West: it up Charlotte Nolasco: So Virginia West: still. Charlotte Nolasco: I mean like you could actually Yeah, Andrea Blood: Or Charlotte Nolasco: gives you Andrea Blood: we Charlotte Nolasco: the Andrea Blood: can Charlotte Nolasco: options. Andrea Blood: we can do one thing, we can just have a remote control and casings of different different shapes, different fruit shapes Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Andrea Blood: in such a way that a any casing can be could be fit into this mobile general piece. Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Andrea Blood: So whatever people want, like if somebody want it in banana shape, we will put that casing onto that mobile phone, Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Andrea Blood: okay, Charlotte Nolasco: So a selection Andrea Blood: it will look Charlotte Nolasco: of casings. Andrea Blood: l Uh yeah. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Andrea Blood: In Charlotte Nolasco: It Andrea Blood: that Charlotte Nolasco: kind Latoya Andersen: 'cause Charlotte Nolasco: of Latoya Andersen: you Charlotte Nolasco: fi Andrea Blood: w Latoya Andersen: said Charlotte Nolasco: it fits Latoya Andersen: about disposable, Charlotte Nolasco: with f fits with Latoya Andersen: didn't Charlotte Nolasco: marketing Latoya Andersen: you? Andrea Blood: S s Charlotte Nolasco: um Andrea Blood: sorry? Latoya Andersen: You said about disposable earli people want disposable things so Andrea Blood: Uh Latoya Andersen: we could Andrea Blood: like Latoya Andersen: do that, Andrea Blood: if Latoya Andersen: like Andrea Blood: this Latoya Andersen: have a Andrea Blood: is Latoya Andersen: choice. Andrea Blood: a like if this is a mobile phone uh we will design casing in such a way like half of, we need not to have a full cover, Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: we will just have a half of cover, okay? Charlotte Nolasco: Like Andrea Blood: If somebody Charlotte Nolasco: like mobiles, Andrea Blood: wants it Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Andrea Blood: i in banana shape, we will fit banana shape casing onto that, so it will give a banana shape look. If somebody wanted in apple shape we will design that, we will put we will put apple shape casing on that. It will give apple shape look. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: So in that way you can have any, that means whatever you want, Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: without Latoya Andersen: We still Andrea Blood: uh yeah. Latoya Andersen: need the buttons in the same places Andrea Blood: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: thought, don't Andrea Blood: button will Latoya Andersen: we? Andrea Blood: be Charlotte Nolasco: You Andrea Blood: on Charlotte Nolasco: can Andrea Blood: the upper Charlotte Nolasco: standardise Andrea Blood: side, Charlotte Nolasco: those, I mean. Andrea Blood: buttons will be the on the upper side. Latoya Andersen: Oh, that's the Andrea Blood: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: other side. Oh, Andrea Blood: buttons Latoya Andersen: okay. Andrea Blood: will be on the upper side, lower side we will just put the casing, so half of that will be look Latoya Andersen: Oh, half Andrea Blood: the Latoya Andersen: a fruit. Andrea Blood: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: Oh, Andrea Blood: not Latoya Andersen: okay, Andrea Blood: not the Latoya Andersen: okay. Andrea Blood: upper side. So from lower you can, it means while you are holding of from this side you c you can have banana look or apple Latoya Andersen: Okay, Andrea Blood: look, whatever. Latoya Andersen: okay. Andrea Blood: So in that way we need not to d have different different shape mobiles everything, we will just design casings fruit shape. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Virginia West: Yeah Charlotte Nolasco: I think Andrea Blood: And Virginia West: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: tho I think if you're gonna have a facia then you'd want to have it so that it does go over the buttons, 'cause when if you think about it if they're wanting it, 'cause they want to look at it, if they're using it, and what they want to look at is facing away from them. Latoya Andersen: Mm Charlotte Nolasco: It doesn't really Latoya Andersen: mm. Charlotte Nolasco: You know 'cause that'd be in the palm of their hand and they wouldn't be able to see Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: it, unless you have sort of you got the buttons options on one side, and you get the facia on the other side with a microphone so that you can place it face down. And you've got the facia, and you can just talk at the Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: Maybe. Virginia West: Okay, um so Charlotte Nolasco: So you've narrowed it down to half a dozen options. Virginia West: Yeah, s I guess we decided on material, right? So that that spongy latex rubber Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: everything feel, Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: and the colours we got down, Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: and Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: the shape, maybe we'll just make it kinda mix and match type of shape or Latoya Andersen: Well, um because Well, I I'm not sure if we should go so far in the whole fruit thing, because I think we should maybe just take the inspiration from the fruit and uh Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, Latoya Andersen: because Charlotte Nolasco: so we stick with what we've got there. Latoya Andersen: what Yeah, w I think wh wha would we're trying to get to twenty five, thirty five year olds who want it quite trendy as well they said. They wanted something that looks fancy and I think maybe fruit could be a bit of a too much of a gimmick, but something ergonomically shaped and organic, like good to hold, based on fruits and natural things like that, Charlotte Nolasco: Mm 'kay. Latoya Andersen: because al already we're going a bit gaudy with the yellow, you know. Charlotte Nolasco: Mm-hmm. Latoya Andersen: I Virginia West: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: mean we could make it nice pale yellow. Charlotte Nolasco: Well, it's kind of gotta be our company's yellow. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Virginia West: Okay. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: So again I mean like we could have, uh I mean, we could quite easily have the the main body be a different Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Maybe we Charlotte Nolasco: colour, Latoya Andersen: could have Charlotte Nolasco: but Latoya Andersen: that Charlotte Nolasco: have Latoya Andersen: pale yellow and then an outside bit bright yellow with, you said, the logan the slogan. Charlotte Nolasco: kinda going round, yeah. Virginia West: Mm. Latoya Andersen: Because Charlotte Nolasco: Um I mean e even if I mean not necessarily that the um the whole body has to be of the company colour, so Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: you know um blue and yellow tend to go to we well together. So you have the main body blue with the yellow logo and slogan running Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: up one side of it kind Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: of thing. Latoya Andersen: Uh-huh. Virginia West: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: W sort of Virginia West: Great. Um as for the energy source um, you know, almost every remote control uses just batteries, but we don't have to be limited by that. We can use a hand-dynamo. Um I don't Charlotte Nolasco: Uh Virginia West: know what that means, we crank Charlotte Nolasco: It's Virginia West: it? Charlotte Nolasco: I think it's basically the more you move i it, it's got a wee thing inside that just kinda Virginia West: Right, it's Charlotte Nolasco: powers Virginia West: like those Charlotte Nolasco: it. Virginia West: watches Charlotte Nolasco: Uh Virginia West: that you Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Virginia West: c So, this Latoya Andersen: Oh, Virginia West: might Latoya Andersen: a Virginia West: be Latoya Andersen: d Virginia West: an idea for Latoya Andersen: a Virginia West: something Latoya Andersen: dynamo? Virginia West: that people really wanna grab, Andrea Blood: Yeah, Virginia West: you can shake it if it's Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: out of power. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, I Latoya Andersen: like Charlotte Nolasco: like Latoya Andersen: with Charlotte Nolasco: that, Latoya Andersen: those Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Latoya Andersen: watches that you kind Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: of twist. Yeah Virginia West: Okay. So Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Andrea Blood: But Latoya Andersen: that's Virginia West: if Latoya Andersen: quite Virginia West: it if Latoya Andersen: cool. Virginia West: it's not working, Charlotte Nolasco: You shake Virginia West: I guess people's Charlotte Nolasco: it and Virginia West: natural Charlotte Nolasco: scream at Virginia West: reaction Charlotte Nolasco: it. Virginia West: anyway is to Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Virginia West: just Andrea Blood: But Virginia West: shake the thing. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, it Andrea Blood: but Latoya Andersen: is, Andrea Blood: do Latoya Andersen: yeah. Andrea Blood: you think that it will be a good idea to use dynamo, tha these type of cells? Because then people have to, well like if the cell is out Charlotte Nolasco: It does leave Andrea Blood: of Charlotte Nolasco: them with Andrea Blood: bat Charlotte Nolasco: an obligation to Andrea Blood: Yeah, to Charlotte Nolasco: Especially Andrea Blood: mo Charlotte Nolasco: if they want to use it uh uh Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: sp uh specifically as um voice activated. Andrea Blood: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: Then Andrea Blood: because Virginia West: Right. Latoya Andersen: Yeah, Andrea Blood: most Charlotte Nolasco: if it's just Andrea Blood: of the Charlotte Nolasco: sitting Andrea Blood: people Latoya Andersen: then Charlotte Nolasco: on the Latoya Andersen: they have to pick it up and then activate Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: it and then Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, okay. Latoya Andersen: That's true. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: Right um what are the other options? Virginia West: Uh there's solar power. Andrea Blood: Uh, Virginia West: Um. Andrea Blood: solar power will w also not be a good idea, because then they have to keep m their mobiles outside Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Andrea Blood: in Virginia West: Yeah. Andrea Blood: solar energy, and the days when there is no sola Charlotte Nolasco: I'm Andrea Blood: sunlight Charlotte Nolasco: I'm with uh Raj Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: on that, I Virginia West: Okay, Charlotte Nolasco: think, Andrea Blood: Yeah. Virginia West: so Charlotte Nolasco: you Virginia West: probably Charlotte Nolasco: know, Virginia West: just Charlotte Nolasco: I've got I've Andrea Blood: What Charlotte Nolasco: got no Andrea Blood: we Charlotte Nolasco: I've got a north facing Andrea Blood: w Charlotte Nolasco: house, there's not really Andrea Blood: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: ever sun Latoya Andersen: But Charlotte Nolasco: coming Andrea Blood: I Latoya Andersen: w Charlotte Nolasco: in Andrea Blood: think Charlotte Nolasco: my Latoya Andersen: like Charlotte Nolasco: window. Andrea Blood: we should Latoya Andersen: just Andrea Blood: a rechargeable Latoya Andersen: normal light? Charlotte Nolasco: Oh Andrea Blood: battery Charlotte Nolasco: that's true. Andrea Blood: will be a good idea. They can Charlotte Nolasco: I mean Andrea Blood: they Charlotte Nolasco: I Andrea Blood: can Charlotte Nolasco: w I Andrea Blood: recharge Charlotte Nolasco: w uh that Andrea Blood: it. Charlotte Nolasco: idea that I thought um just on the basis of like ridding them of batteries and that Virginia West: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: kind of bother Latoya Andersen: And we're Charlotte Nolasco: is Latoya Andersen: a very Charlotte Nolasco: having Latoya Andersen: environmentally Charlotte Nolasco: a, Latoya Andersen: friendly company, Charlotte Nolasco: yeah, having Latoya Andersen: aren't Andrea Blood: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: we as Charlotte Nolasco: a Latoya Andersen: well? Charlotte Nolasco: rechargeable stand, so Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: that not only it doubles Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: as a stand, but um for using it as uh recharging it, but also for using it Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: as sound recognition. Virginia West: 'Kay. Latoya Andersen: Like like a hand like one of those portable phones Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah Latoya Andersen: kind Andrea Blood: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: of thing. Charlotte Nolasco: that Andrea Blood: that's Charlotte Nolasco: kind of thing. Virginia West: Okay. Andrea Blood: Yeah, exactly. Virginia West: So uh a rechargeable battery. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Virginia West: Okay. Charlotte Nolasco: Rechargeable. Virginia West: Um the user interface, the buttons, I guess we talked about this already. Latoya Andersen: Mm. Charlotte Nolasco: What's Virginia West: Um. Charlotte Nolasco: chip on print? What's Virginia West: Hmm? Charlotte Nolasco: Sorry, never mind. Virginia West: Uh th the uh the electronics um, basically the more features we add um Oops, this one. So the more features we add the fancier chips we need to buy Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: and put in, which adds to the cost Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: as you can expect. Um. But uh I think we can keep it all under budget. So uh yes, so the speech thing you said our our techno our research and development department came up with some break-through. Latoya Andersen: Mm-hmm. Virginia West: So Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: Just Charlotte Nolasco: and if Latoya Andersen: in time. Charlotte Nolasco: we if we're Virginia West: just Charlotte Nolasco: just Virginia West: in time. Charlotte Nolasco: having buttons and the speech then we're getting our cheapest option of chipping. Virginia West: Right, right. Charlotte Nolasco: That's good. Uh woah. Virginia West: Yeah, Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, Virginia West: and Charlotte Nolasco: we're Virginia West: keeping Charlotte Nolasco: we're kind Virginia West: the L_C_D_ Charlotte Nolasco: of uh Virginia West: screen out. Charlotte Nolasco: we're kind of um Excuse m I've just deleted that whole thing. Um we're kind of running out of time, so if you could Uh. Was that you? Um Virginia West: Huh? Charlotte Nolasco: that was your bit's covered, I just Virginia West: Oh Charlotte Nolasco: dele Virginia West: yeah that Charlotte Nolasco: I Virginia West: was that Charlotte Nolasco: just Virginia West: was Charlotte Nolasco: accidentally Virginia West: it. Charlotte Nolasco: deleted what I was supposed to say next. Andrea Blood: Uh excuse Andrea Blood, Charlotte Nolasco: Um, Andrea Blood: Bri Charlotte Nolasco: yeah. Virginia West: So Charlotte Nolasco: Oh, yeah. Virginia West: control F_ eight, right? Latoya Andersen: Yeah, mine seems to have turned off. I can't Charlotte Nolasco: And I just Latoya Andersen: do Charlotte Nolasco: touch Latoya Andersen: anything. Charlotte Nolasco: the pad. Andrea Blood: You just touch the pad, yeah. Latoya Andersen: No. Andrea Blood: No? Charlotte Nolasco: It's actually shut down. Latoya Andersen: It's on, but there's nothing Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, Latoya Andersen: on the screen. Charlotte Nolasco: um now Virginia West: Try uh Charlotte Nolasco: what Virginia West: flipping the screen Charlotte Nolasco: we Virginia West: down. Charlotte Nolasco: have uh our next meeting's in half an hour Virginia West: 'Kay. Charlotte Nolasco: and what I would like you guys to do is work on giving Andrea Blood a model in clay. Virginia West: Oh, I get to do it, too. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. Latoya Andersen: Cool. Charlotte Nolasco: It's Virginia West: Oh Charlotte Nolasco: you guys. Virginia West: neat. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah. So um, you know I mean, luckily we chose a nice simple shape. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Virginia West: Yeah, Latoya Andersen: Mm. Virginia West: yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Um and further instructions will be sent by your personal coaches. Latoya Andersen: Okay. Virginia West: Okay. Andrea Blood: That's great. Virginia West: Save everything to the shared documents, is that right? Charlotte Nolasco: Uh yeah, I hope Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: I can recover this, 'cause I've accidentally deleted it. Andrea Blood: Mm-hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: Which doesn't really help Andrea Blood much. Latoya Andersen: I think, I've saved mine already. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, can you save that uh send that last one again, please, Raj, as I still Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: can't find it on the Andrea Blood: Uh it was under a different name. I will show you, in shared documents. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay. Andrea Blood: Uh working components. Oh, you didn't get that. Charlotte Nolasco: No. Andrea Blood: I will send new. Charlotte Nolasco: Okay, thank you. Andrea Blood: Uh I'll put it in shared documents, again. Charlotte Nolasco: Um yeah, Project, Project Documents. Andrea Blood: Project documents, sorry, I put it in the shared documents. Charlotte Nolasco: Uh right, that's Andrea Blood: Uh yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: that's the that it goes there automatically if you put it in Project Documents. Project Documents is on the um desktop. Andrea Blood: Right, that's great. But I cou can't open that, because it w asks uh for some username or password. Virginia West: Oh. Charlotte Nolasco: Really? Andrea Blood: I'll show you. Virginia West: Uh these lapel mics are trouble. Andrea Blood: Ts Charlotte Nolasco: Oh right, I think um Hold on. Andrea Blood: Sorry. Uh. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, I don't know if y it it just ca it just came up on my um on my agenda. S Um presumably there's clay somewhere. Um. Four. Andrea Blood: Yeah, that's great. Charlotte Nolasco: Whoops. Light, light, please. Light. Right, there you go. Andrea Blood: Yeah, th thank you. Charlotte Nolasco: Yeah, quite. And we're using this our basic chip set, so it's all Andrea Blood: Oh sorry. Charlotte Nolasco: good. Virginia West: Are we done with our meeting? Andrea Blood: Uh Charlotte Nolasco: Um I think Andrea Blood: excuse Charlotte Nolasco: we're almost Andrea Blood: Andrea Blood, Brian. Charlotte Nolasco: done, yeah. Andrea Blood: You have Virginia West: Yeah. Andrea Blood: to keep your pen separate, because I used your pen. Charlotte Nolasco: Oh oops. Sorry Andrea Blood: S Charlotte Nolasco: man. Uh okay, still didn't manage to get down all the last bits so we had rechargeable and Uh. Apples. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. 'Kay, so we came up with that, that's okay. What's supplements? Supplements. Uh uh. See. Latoya Andersen: Cool. Fun. Charlotte Nolasco: I shoulda something like that. If I kn see I I knew that. I shoulda sort of engineered it so we k ended up making a diffi difficult shape. Andrea Blood: Hmm. Charlotte Nolasco: Just for cruelty. Latoya Andersen: Yeah. Andrea Blood: Hmm. Latoya Andersen: Star fruit. Charlotte Nolasco: I wonder Andrea Blood: So Charlotte Nolasco: if they mean Andrea Blood: sh Charlotte Nolasco: like literally make it, sort of buttons Andrea Blood: should Charlotte Nolasco: and everything. Latoya Andersen: No. Andrea Blood: Should we leave Latoya Andersen: Oh yeah, Andrea Blood: now, Latoya Andersen: we can do buttons. Andrea Blood: Brian? Or Charlotte Nolasco: Um. Andrea Blood: we are going to discuss something? Charlotte Nolasco: Uh no, I think that's us our discussion over unless anybody's got questions or confusions, Latoya Andersen: No I'm good. Charlotte Nolasco: 'cause I'm confused. Andrea Blood: Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: Huh? Latoya Andersen: Okay. Andrea Blood: Excuse Andrea Blood. Charlotte Nolasco: Um uh we'll probably get questionnaire in a minute, it's a Latoya Andersen: Mm. Andrea Blood: Sorry. Thank you. Yeah. Charlotte Nolasco: There we go. Warning, finish meeting now. Andrea Blood: So. Charlotte Nolasco: I rounded it up far too fast. Um. Where are we going? My Documents, that's not what I want. My Project Documents. There we go.

Andrea Blood presented the results of a market survey that indicated users' most important preferences in remote control features. He discussed trends in fashion that should be incorporated into the prototype design. Latoya Andersen compared the designs of several competitors' remotes to decide which features should be used in their own design. She discussed using voice recognition, an LCD screen, and color to make the device easier to use and to improve its look. Virginia West went over all of the internal components and materials that will be incorporated in the design. He gave a layout of the placement of the components in the device. The group decided to use a rubber or latex material to give the device a spongy feel. He discussed the color and shape of the remote with the group and the placement of the components on the device. The group discussed colors and shapes further, and decided that the remote will be yellow, and perhaps having a fruit-inspired shape. The group decided to use a rechargeable battery and recharging stand. Charlotte Nolasco instructed Latoya Andersen and Virginia West to construct the prototype.

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Joann Tyson: Okay. Gail Ballard: Okay, almost there. Sarah Baker: Okay. We'll sta I'll use the PowerPoint I. How was that, was that fun? Joann Tyson: Mm. Gail Ballard: Yeah, yeah. Joann Tyson: Very fun. Sarah Baker: Okay. Uh oh I've forgotten to mail you the minutes, but I will do. Gail Ballard: Okay. Sarah Baker: Upsidaisy. Lorena Harding: Hmm. Sarah Baker: Um Um Lorena Harding: E Sarah Baker: we Lorena Harding: excuse Lorena Harding I forgot Sarah Baker: Yeah. Lorena Harding: my Sarah Baker: Alright, Lorena Harding: copy. Sarah Baker: okay, yeah. He's gonna get his pen. Joann Tyson: Oh right. Sarah Baker: Um Will you guys first with your prototype um before we get to the good news? Gail Ballard: Yeah, there's good news? Sarah Baker: Uh Gail Ballard: Oh. Joann Tyson: Mm. Sarah Baker: we have budget problems. Gail Ballard: Oh. Cutbacks. Sarah Baker: I'm afraid you're all sacked. Oops. I don't even have on. Gail Ballard: Hmm. Sarah Baker: Okay, have you Gail Ballard: Okay. Sarah Baker: got a presentation to make? Lorena Harding: No, not Sarah Baker: No. Lorena Harding: mine Sarah Baker: Okay Lorena Harding: yet. Sarah Baker: so it's Gail Ballard: Oh. Sarah Baker: just your your show. Gail Ballard: Um maybe we should bring so that the camera can see. Yeah. Joann Tyson: Okay. Sure. Gail Ballard: Okay. Joann Tyson: We made three Sarah Baker: Three? Joann Tyson: for you. Sarah Baker: Oh. Joann Tyson: Um one's based on the banana, one's based on the tomato and Sarah Baker: Tomato? Joann Tyson: the other one Sarah Baker: What tomato? Joann Tyson: is st Sarah Baker: I don't recall a tomato. Joann Tyson: Look. Oh yeah, well yeah, we had v some red left over. So. Sarah Baker: Ah I see, okay. Joann Tyson: Okay, so this is the um non to non uh no buttons one, or as mm few buttons as possible, Sarah Baker: Mm-hmm. Joann Tyson: mainly speak recognition. The yellow there is the um Sarah Baker: Logo. Joann Tyson: the slogan, yeah, Sarah Baker: Okay, Joann Tyson: incorporate, Sarah Baker: brilliant. Joann Tyson: it's very simple. If you do need buttons, you can flip it over, and there's some there, Sarah Baker: Okay. Joann Tyson: um but mainly it's speech recognition. Sarah Baker: Okay, so the buttons would be like, you know individual users, or Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: Yeah. Joann Tyson: Yeah and yeah they might project things onto the screen which you can do on there. Sarah Baker: Alright, okay. Joann Tyson: Mm I'm not sure about that. Um and this one is the one w more like the one w that we looked at earlier. Sarah Baker: Right. Joann Tyson: Yeah, you guys can Sarah Baker: That's Joann Tyson: have Sarah Baker: groovy. Joann Tyson: a look at that Lorena Harding: Yeah. Joann Tyson: if you want. Lorena Harding: Uh can Sarah Baker: Well I like the Lorena Harding: I Sarah Baker: feel of it, Lorena Harding: have Joann Tyson: Yeah, Sarah Baker: I like the feel Joann Tyson: sure. Sarah Baker: of it. Joann Tyson: Um that one is Lorena Harding: Oh sorry Joann Tyson: Oh Lorena Harding: s Sarah Baker: At Oh Joann Tyson: no, it's delicate. Sarah Baker: dear. Joann Tyson: That's that's already got its stand that one. That's it stand. Sarah Baker: Alright, Joann Tyson: It does Sarah Baker: okay. Joann Tyson: also lie flat, but that's the that yellow stand there represents the the charging stand. Sarah Baker: Okay, Joann Tyson: Um Sarah Baker: brilliant mm. Joann Tyson: the black on the back is the slogan. Sarah Baker: Okay, nice and obvious Joann Tyson: Uh Sarah Baker: there, Joann Tyson: yeah, that Well, we Sarah Baker: if it's Joann Tyson: did think Sarah Baker: standing Joann Tyson: of Sarah Baker: up, Joann Tyson: that. Sarah Baker: I guess, yeah. Joann Tyson: Yeah, if it's standing up it's it's on there, but also we're gonna have the company name on the front, which is the little black kind of line in Sarah Baker: Oh Joann Tyson: the Sarah Baker: right, Joann Tyson: middle. Sarah Baker: okay, brilliant. Like Joann Tyson: So Sarah Baker: that Joann Tyson: um Sarah Baker: from its centre. Joann Tyson: and that's the um transmit the L_E_D_ thing. These are the s two scroll ones which we thought could be channel up and down and volume up and down. We n were weren't sure about putting them there, because um i it's it kind of could get bashed. Sarah Baker: Where you're, yeah, uh were you're holding it kind of Joann Tyson: Yeah. Well, if you hold it, you can you all can hold it, is it does actually feel quite ergonomic, Sarah Baker: Mm-hmm. Joann Tyson: if you've got small hands. Sarah Baker: Yeah. Gail Ballard: Mm. Joann Tyson: Um, Sarah Baker: Okay. Joann Tyson: obviously I don't think that's real sized. It would Sarah Baker: Yeah, Joann Tyson: have Sarah Baker: okay. Joann Tyson: to be a bit Sarah Baker: Yeah, Joann Tyson: bigger. Sarah Baker: scale model, yeah. Joann Tyson: Okay. Um that's a speaker at the top, so you can speak into it like a little walkie-talkie as well for speak recognition. Sarah Baker: Mm-hmm. Joann Tyson: Um and um then the buttons. Yeah kind of self-explanatory, just buttons whenever you need them. Tried to keep it simple. Oh that's the charging base prongs at the bottom. We used those. And um then the Sarah Baker: Alright, excellent. Joann Tyson: big red button in the middle is the on and off one. It's Sarah Baker: Okay. Joann Tyson: not in the traditional place, Sarah Baker: No. Joann Tyson: but um Sarah Baker: It's out of Joann Tyson: it's Sarah Baker: the way Joann Tyson: quite an Sarah Baker: as Joann Tyson: obvious Sarah Baker: well, I Joann Tyson: place. Sarah Baker: suppose, so. Excellent. Joann Tyson: So there we go and and um we have the banana-based Gail Ballard: Oh yeah, yeah. Joann Tyson: one too. Sarah Baker: Yep. Gail Ballard: This one is uh, I suppose for the younger audiences. Sarah Baker: Okay, Gail Ballard: A a more friendly Sarah Baker: so Gail Ballard: type Sarah Baker: so Gail Ballard: of Sarah Baker: Barney the banana. Gail Ballard: Right, right. It's to uh induce more television watching I suppose Sarah Baker: Ah Gail Ballard: or Sarah Baker: excellent, just what we need. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Gail Ballard: Yeah. Lorena Harding: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: Lo Sort of Loch Ness banana. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Gail Ballard: Right, right. Sarah Baker: Cool yeah. Well, nice to have uh options at least. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Gail Ballard: Yep. Sarah Baker: 'Kay Joann Tyson: So Sarah Baker: and Joann Tyson: are there any um improvements or issues Gail Ballard: It won't Joann Tyson: or Gail Ballard: stand. Sarah Baker: Oh there are issues, oh there are issues. Gail Ballard: Just let it lie down, it wont stand. Sarah Baker: Um main problem that we have unfortunately being finance. Joann Tyson: Oh. Sarah Baker: Uh, let's just enter in the um evaluation criteria. Um unfortunately the unit we are currently going to produce minus the extra scroll buttons, uh it's gonna cost Lorena Harding: Mm. Sarah Baker: us fourteen point six Euros. Joann Tyson: Oh. Sarah Baker: So Gail Ballard: What's Sarah Baker: we have Gail Ballard: on the Sarah Baker: to Gail Ballard: uh Sarah Baker: rea Gail Ballard: on the left? Sarah Baker: Sorry, I've accidentally highlighted somehow Um. There we go. Gail Ballard: Okay. Sarah Baker: Oh god, Joann Tyson: Ooh. Sarah Baker: why is it doing that? There we go. So basically, um in order to save our two Euros um I was thinking that we could have essentially the same shape, but just have it flattened. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. More like Sarah Baker: Um. Joann Tyson: a traditional remote control. Sarah Baker: Yeah, I mean it's already got a kind of cool shape, Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: so but it wouldn't have to be curved sort Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: of in and out. And by doing so Oh no, hold on. Doesn't save us quite as much. I don't know what's going on with this again. Gail Ballard: W why is the uh double curved two of them? Sarah Baker: Oh, good point. Lorena Harding: And Sarah Baker: Um. Lorena Harding: double curve on both sides? Curve. Yeah, this Sarah Baker: That's Lorena Harding: is double-curve, Sarah Baker: sort Lorena Harding: no? Sarah Baker: of curve Lorena Harding: This Gail Ballard: Is Lorena Harding: is Gail Ballard: i Lorena Harding: double-curve. Sarah Baker: in and Lorena Harding: It Sarah Baker: out. Lorena Harding: This one is single curve. Gail Ballard: Mm. Lorena Harding: 'Cause this is single curve, this is curved on both sides. So double-curve. Sarah Baker: No, I think it means double curved as in um Joann Tyson: Like an S_ shape. Sarah Baker: like uh a single curve on that bottom half, and the double curved would be if it was that similar curve Joann Tyson: Okay. Sarah Baker: upward. Okay, I might be wrong though. Lorena Harding: Like this, one curve on this side, one curve on that side. Sarah Baker: I don't think that counts as a curve, I think Lorena Harding: Hmm. Sarah Baker: that's just a shape. Joann Tyson: Okay. Sarah Baker: A curvature is like the this Lorena Harding: Maybe. Sarah Baker: case. Joann Tyson: Okay. Gail Ballard: 'Cause that's the uh the biggest expense there, right. Sarah Baker: Yeah, Gail Ballard: got Sarah Baker: and why Gail Ballard: two Sarah Baker: why Gail Ballard: of them Sarah Baker: I've got it two, I don't know, I can't seem to select any more however. Gail Ballard: Okay. Well we can work around that um Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: Right. No. Gail Ballard: Cut things out. But you think it should be one. Sarah Baker: It's meant to be one, yeah, I don't know why I put two in there, Gail Ballard: Okay. Sarah Baker: but um Hold on till I find it, I think this shift button might be stuck again. No maybe the shift button's stuck in. Gail Ballard: Yeah. Sarah Baker: Um Lorena Harding: Mm. Sarah Baker: okay, so Lorena Harding: Should Sarah Baker: that would take away three, which would give us Oh that's fine. Gail Ballard: Yeah, so Sarah Baker: Eleven Gail Ballard: we're Joann Tyson: Cool. Sarah Baker: uh eleven Euros sixty. Joann Tyson: Cool. Sarah Baker: Um Joann Tyson: So we could even add something. Sarah Baker: We cou Oh not quite, Gail Ballard: We should fire Sarah Baker: have the scroll-wheel, Gail Ballard: the accountants. Sarah Baker: unfortunately. What? Gail Ballard: Fire the accountants. Ah yeah, we could add things. Maybe if you click back in that bottom right cell, where you're starting from, Sarah Baker: Yeah. Gail Ballard: and then use the arrow keys. Does that work? Sarah Baker: Yeah, I know, that Gail Ballard: No Sarah Baker: just extends Gail Ballard: mm. Sarah Baker: it as well. Lorena Harding: Uh you Sarah Baker: I Lorena Harding: can Sarah Baker: don't Lorena Harding: do Sarah Baker: know. Lorena Harding: one thing. You just select one box outsi yeah, this box. Then move it with the help of this Okay. Sarah Baker: It One of the buttons Lorena Harding: Just Sarah Baker: is sticking, Lorena Harding: uh just Sarah Baker: I don't know. Lorena Harding: uh Okay, just a minute. Okay. No input, like this. Shift. No Sarah Baker: No, it's Lorena Harding: it's Sarah Baker: 'cause Lorena Harding: not. Sarah Baker: the uh the shift button's stuck, Lorena Harding: Yeah, Sarah Baker: or something. Lorena Harding: it's not working. Gail Ballard: Is Lorena Harding: Should Gail Ballard: it the Lorena Harding: we Gail Ballard: other Lorena Harding: ask Gail Ballard: shift Lorena Harding: Meli Gail Ballard: button maybe? Lorena Harding: Should we ask our technical expert Melissa? Sarah Baker: No that's fine. Um we've worked out what it would be anyway. Gail Ballard: Did you try both shift buttons? It could be Sarah Baker: Yeah. Gail Ballard: the other side. Sarah Baker: Cancel. Piss off. Gail Ballard: That's too bad. Sarah Baker: Oh well, never mind. Um. Right, so that's finances and I dunno what we what could we reckon we could add? Um Joann Tyson: Well maybe we could add something, but maybe if What Sarah Baker: Well I suppose Joann Tyson: do you Sarah Baker: that's Joann Tyson: th Sarah Baker: our that's Joann Tyson: We're Sarah Baker: that's Joann Tyson: trying Sarah Baker: our Joann Tyson: to Sarah Baker: design Joann Tyson: save Sarah Baker: that Joann Tyson: money, Sarah Baker: we've got. Joann Tyson: so. Yeah, Sarah Baker: So Joann Tyson: if we're happy with the design there's no point in spending money, if we don't have to. Sarah Baker: Yeah. Joann Tyson: But if there is anything you think we've missed out there, then, you know, feel free to add it. Maybe I mean obviously it would be bigger so there might be more space for the the slogan on the front, because it's Sarah Baker: Yeah Joann Tyson: not in an Sarah Baker: yeah. Joann Tyson: ideal place right now. Sarah Baker: Well that's that's uh Okay, so project evaluation. We have under twelve Euros fifty. Project process, how do we think that went? Are we happy? Gail Ballard: Oh. Joann Tyson: Mm. Gail Ballard: Yeah I think we have a a winning product. Sarah Baker: Okay. Evaluation. Oh we've been writing this up for m Joann Tyson: I think Sarah Baker: months. Joann Tyson: it went quite smoothly. Sarah Baker: Uh room for creativity, were we happy with that? Joann Tyson: W I think we were very creative. Sarah Baker: No, I mea I think it means sort of individually. Joann Tyson: Oh right, okay. Sarah Baker: Yes, no, maybe? Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: Okay. Groovy. So uh we're just gonna. Uh yeah, okay. Teamwork? Leadership, sorry. Gail Ballard: Great Joann Tyson: Excellent Gail Ballard: leadership. Joann Tyson: leadership. Sarah Baker: Thank you very much. You're all get you're all getting a raise. Uh teamwork. I thought went well. Gail Ballard: Yeah, Lorena Harding: Yeah. Gail Ballard: yeah. Joann Tyson: Yeah, Sarah Baker: Yeah. Joann Tyson: everyone got enough input, I think. Sarah Baker: Uh and well means, yeah. Lorena Harding: Yeah, Sarah Baker: The Lorena Harding: we Sarah Baker: technical stuff was brilliant. Let's Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: buy more. Lorena Harding: Yeah. Gail Ballard: These Sarah Baker: I don't Gail Ballard: pens Sarah Baker: know what, new Gail Ballard: are Sarah Baker: ideas Gail Ballard: are neat Sarah Baker: found, Gail Ballard: though. Sarah Baker: means, to be honest. Lorena Harding: Yeah, these are new ideas, like glow-in-the-dark or something like that. We discussed all the new ideas, but of course we couldn't reach any proper goals, we couldn't use these, but we h we are using these scroll buttons like this. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Sarah Baker: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: These are new ideas we And new shapes, everything. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: Mm 'kay. Lorena Harding: At le Sarah Baker: Groovy. Lorena Harding: Yeah. Sarah Baker: So just general thumbs up for all of us then. Lorena Harding: Hmm. Sarah Baker: That kind of unfortunately is too quick. Joann Tyson: Okay. Lorena Harding: Hmm. Gail Ballard: Okay. Joann Tyson: Well um. Sarah Baker: Uh. I suppose yeah. Gail Ballard: Uh Sarah Baker: Um. Gail Ballard: so let's talk about our bonuses and the raises we're getting Sarah Baker: That's Gail Ballard: for this, Sarah Baker: it, Gail Ballard: right. Sarah Baker: um I think another couple of days holiday pay might be Joann Tyson: Mm. Sarah Baker: well in order for all of you. Gail Ballard: Right, right. Sarah Baker: Uh Let's see if I can get this bloody thing to work. Gail Ballard: Uh Sarah Baker: Whoops. Gail Ballard: maybe we should start cleaning up the clay. Joann Tyson: Yeah, maybe. Lorena Harding: So Sarah Baker: Does it go back in, does it? Reusable. Gail Ballard: Something we Sarah Baker: I Gail Ballard: should Sarah Baker: don't know Gail Ballard: get. Sarah Baker: what this is Lorena Harding: So Sarah Baker: but it's really really annoying. Lorena Harding: Uh Brian, have Sarah Baker: Uh-huh. Lorena Harding: you have you finished? Sarah Baker: Um Lorena Harding: Uh Sarah Baker: I have, yes. Lorena Harding: mine needs also this. Sarah Baker: Huh? Lorena Harding: At last mine is also the presentation. Sarah Baker: Oh right, okay, you've got more, Joann Tyson: Oh, Sarah Baker: okay. Joann Tyson: you got Lorena Harding: Yeah, Joann Tyson: a presentation, Sarah Baker: Sorry Joann Tyson: sorry. Sarah Baker: uh. Lorena Harding: yeah. Gail Ballard: Oh ok Sarah Baker: It didn't bother to tell Lorena Harding: S Sarah Baker: Lorena Harding that on this thing. Is it? Okay. Lorena Harding: Uh Sarah Baker: Doesn't tell Lorena Harding. Lorena Harding: is the project evaluated, that is mine. Sarah Baker: Oh you're doing that. Lorena Harding: Yeah. Sarah Baker: We evaluated ourselves, we thought we were great. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Gail Ballard: Uh. Joann Tyson: Mm, love to eat that Gail Ballard: Anybody Joann Tyson: now. Kind of a green Sarah Baker: Mm. Joann Tyson: banana now. Gail Ballard: Clay covered banana. Joann Tyson: It's this as well, sorry, we forgot to mention it'll be made out of kind of a rubbery latex, new material that we've got. Sarah Baker: O okay, Joann Tyson: I've got. Sarah Baker: hold on. Gail Ballard: blue. Sarah Baker: I wonder w which cell do I want. Gail Ballard: It's fun to touch. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Lorena Harding: So. Sarah Baker: Okay, Lorena Harding: Yeah. Sarah Baker: I didn't realise you had that bit. Joann Tyson: Oh could you pass the tomato Lorena Harding: So. Joann Tyson: please. Sorry. Thank you. Lorena Harding: So now is the final evaluation, final evaluation of the uh uh of our product. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: How we are going to means uh at what standard what standard whether it meets our standards or not. How mu What rating we will give to these products. So of course this is will be a team work, w we together have to decide wha what rating we will give to this product and everything. Sarah Baker: Okay. Lorena Harding: So what methodology I will tell you on what basis we are going to discuss all this. We will give the rating to this product based on the user requirements, whether it meets the user requirements or not, this product. Then trends, whether it is as fashion trends or not? Means because we have already stated that people do prefer fashionable things nowadays. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: So this is also an important factor for our evaluation also. Then marketing strategy of the company. As we have already discussed that our company is quite in the market, not only in terms of providing quality products, not only in pro providing latest technologies, but also in terms of providing environmental s Joann Tyson: Sorry. Sorry, carry on. Lorena Harding: Yeah. So but also in terms of providing environmental safe products, uh yeah like uh keeping uh keeping in mind all the safety issues. So Now comes the criteria rating with seven point scale. Sarah Baker: Okay. Lorena Harding: I'm having this scale this scale, Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: so we have to do it on a board. Joann Tyson: Okay. Sarah Baker: Alright, okay. The board working again, is Lorena Harding: the Sarah Baker: it? Lorena Harding: user requirem I think. Gail Ballard: Do we have the uh the marker for the board? Joann Tyson: Um. Sarah Baker: Uh. Gail Ballard: There it is. Lorena Harding: Thank you. So. Lorena Harding: So these are the three crite criterias for our evaluation of our product. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: First of all uh comes user requirement. So we will see whether this product meets all user requirements or not. I I will first I would like to have your views, what do you think whether it meets all user requirements or not? Joann Tyson: Um I think Yeah, it did. It Lorena Harding: S Joann Tyson: had all the basic buttons that they needed as well as the uh new technology that people said they wanted. Sarah Baker: Yeah. Joann Tyson: Um Sarah Baker: When Joann Tyson: so. Sarah Baker: the user requirement is essentially just to operate Joann Tyson: Does it Sarah Baker: the Joann Tyson: work? Sarah Baker: T_V_, so Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: yeah, of Joann Tyson: So. Sarah Baker: course we haven't Lorena Harding: So Sarah Baker: actually got a working Lorena Harding: what do Sarah Baker: model Lorena Harding: you think Sarah Baker: yet. Lorena Harding: you will personally give. Joann Tyson: I would say seven. Lorena Harding: Seven. Uh. Joann Tyson: Seven is good, yeah, isn't it? I can't True or false? No sorry tr one Sarah Baker: One, yeah. Joann Tyson: is true. Lorena Harding: Uh one is means highest ranking, Joann Tyson: Yeah. Lorena Harding: okay. But I think highest ranking is seven, Sarah Baker: No Lorena Harding: or one? Sarah Baker: it's Gail Ballard: No Sarah Baker: it's Gail Ballard: that's Sarah Baker: like Gail Ballard: false. Sarah Baker: true is one end, Lorena Harding: Okay, Sarah Baker: and false Lorena Harding: right Sarah Baker: is the oth Lorena Harding: right. Joann Tyson: Okay, so Lorena Harding: So Joann Tyson: one. Lorena Harding: it's one for from your point of view. Joann Tyson: Yep. Lorena Harding: And what do you say our Industrial Gail Ballard: Uh. Lorena Harding: Expert? Gail Ballard: It's hard to know. I I give it a two. Lorena Harding: Uh d you can you can tell on on the like I think she has given her views on the basis of design, because she was our i Interface Expert. Gail Ballard: Okay. Lorena Harding: But you can give your views based on technology, whether the technology meets the requirements of the customers or not? Gail Ballard: Um yeah, I think i it might even exceed it um. But I guess there is a kind of a shortage of buttons. Um I'm gonna give it a two. Lorena Harding: Two. Gail Ballard: Two. Lorena Harding: And what about uh you, Brian? Sarah Baker: Oh, I'll go for a one. Lorena Harding: You will go for one. Sarah Baker: Basic requirements Lorena Harding: Okay. Sarah Baker: but of the pro of the project. Lorena Harding: Uh for Lorena Harding personally it is everything fine, it may be having good design, it may be uh meeting all the requirements of the customers like technology-wise, price-wise, but there is one thing which limits the customers, like we are having only two, three designs, like we are having one banana design and the other one is orange, Joann Tyson: Mm Lorena Harding: and Joann Tyson: yellow. Lorena Harding: Uh yeah, lower Sarah Baker: Yeah Lorena Harding: end. And the third Sarah Baker: th Lorena Harding: one is what you ge uh that is not a f fruit look. Joann Tyson: Uh-huh. Lorena Harding: But if Sarah Baker: Come Lorena Harding: a Sarah Baker: on Lorena Harding: person Sarah Baker: that was the tha Lorena Harding: doesn't like banana, or orange, you are limiting him. Joann Tyson: Uh-huh. Lorena Harding: No, don't Sarah Baker: 'Kay. Lorena Harding: buy our product, because we are l we like this only. Joann Tyson: Okay. Lorena Harding: So we are showing our preference for particular fruits, two or three kinds rather, and Sarah Baker: Being fruitist. Lorena Harding: Yeah. Joann Tyson: Is that Lorena Harding: So. Joann Tyson: no is that not trends? Lorena Harding: Uh no, uh personally as a Marketing Expert I don't believe that, because whatever companies they launch their products in the shape of fruits, they give a range of products, a range of shapes, Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: Some children like to buy banana shape, some apple shape, some even pineapple shape, some orange shape. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: So you can what shape a person will like. So in this case giving only one or two choices we are lim limiting our customers. And by Joann Tyson: Uh-huh. Lorena Harding: limiting them, we are limiting our sales, limiting our profit also. Joann Tyson: But in electronics, I think, it's not q always quite so um you don't always have so many choices as with chocolates. Joann Tyson: We were coming up with one product. Lorena Harding: Uh maybe. Okay but Joann Tyson: No, Lorena Harding: I Joann Tyson: I mean Lorena Harding: will Joann Tyson: uh obviously Lorena Harding: I will Joann Tyson: your Lorena Harding: personally Joann Tyson: opinion, I'm just trying to Lorena Harding: won't give it beyond three. Joann Tyson: Okay. Lorena Harding: So we can Sarah Baker: He's a tough cookie. Lorena Harding: Yeah, on an average we can think three, four sevenths, maybe. Three or four? Uh, no sorry, it should Sarah Baker: Six. Lorena Harding: be Sarah Baker: Five or six. Joann Tyson: What are we doing? Lorena Harding: No Gail Ballard: What are Lorena Harding: sorry, Gail Ballard: we doing? Lorena Harding: sorry, sorry, Joann Tyson: Adding Lorena Harding: sorry, Joann Tyson: them Lorena Harding: we Joann Tyson: up? Lorena Harding: are doing a very Gail Ballard: We're gonna Lorena Harding: wrong Gail Ballard: average Lorena Harding: thing. Gail Ballard: them? Lorena Harding: Yeah, yeah, we are taking everything, Gail Ballard: Okay. Lorena Harding: and that's Joann Tyson: Oh. Lorena Harding: I have taken Gail Ballard: So Lorena Harding: it very Gail Ballard: seven Lorena Harding: wrongly. Gail Ballard: fourths. Lorena Harding: Yeah uh Gail Ballard: About one Lorena Harding: three Gail Ballard: point Lorena Harding: four four Gail Ballard: f Lorena Harding: two six Gail Ballard: one point Lorena Harding: seven Gail Ballard: eight. Lorena Harding: seven sev Yeah one pe exactly. So we can say one or two. Gail Ballard: Okay. Joann Tyson: Okay. Lorena Harding: because it is one point eight Sarah Baker: Oh I see. Lorena Harding: uh two, so we will do Gail Ballard: Yeah Lorena Harding: two. Gail Ballard: round it up to two. Lorena Harding: Yeah. Joann Tyson: Okay, yeah. Lorena Harding: So Gail Ballard: So trends. Lorena Harding: where were the trends. Gail Ballard: Can you explain what you want us to write there? Lorena Harding: Sorry? Gail Ballard: How it how conforms to the current trends? Lorena Harding: Yeah, again the the fashion trends, this also like whether it it will be fashionable to have these products in the Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: uh as a fruit shape or something. Joann Tyson: Okay. Lorena Harding: Uh. Joann Tyson: Well um going on uh the specifications that we had, that fruit and vegetables are quite popular, and that people like something that is good to look at and not many buttons, I would give it um, well, because it's hard to make a fruit good to look at, that that looks cool, you know, so I would actually give it a three. Tha three or four, I'm not sure. Three. Lorena Harding: Okay. Joann Tyson: Go Lorena Harding: Yeah. Joann Tyson: for three. That's fine. Lorena Harding: Uh Gail Ballard: 'Kay. As far as the uh technology it its' got the latest trends in speech technology, but it's missing the screen, as we said, um but it does have the push-buttons, or the scroll-buttons, um but it doesn't have that fancy solar power or the the vibrating energy mechanism. So I give it a a four. I'd give it a kinda middle of the road for Joann Tyson: Mm. Gail Ballard: for technology. Sarah Baker: Yeah, I am sort of pret uh Just the fruit does Lorena Harding in, I mean uh it might it might be trendy to some, but I'm just not swallowing the fruit, so Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: um Uh also uh I would have liked to have seen the L_C_D_ screen in it. Um so yeah I'd say about four as well. Lorena Harding: Okay. Uh personally I wi uh I think that in terms of trends, these products are quite good, like, these products are in fruit shape, because that wha people now our fashion trend shows that people like everything all f everything that is being advertised, like clothes, shoes, and everything is being Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: advertised in the form of fruits and vegetables, or getting them or showing some association with them. So and in this way our product is good. And the second thing, now people don't want any complicated or bulky products and ours is quite simple and quite handy. Joann Tyson: Mm-hmm. Lorena Harding: So that is also ef that also Our product meets the f the fashion uh trends of the market. And yes. It is cus spongy also. So they can play with it, it's quite good. So then I think, maybe I can give it two. So four five ten thirteen thirteen. So we can Is it fine? So what Gail Ballard: Yeah. Lorena Harding: about company strategy? Gail Ballard: Well Joann Tyson: Um. Gail Ballard: it was yellow. Joann Tyson: Yeah, the company strategy, okay. Um there was lot of discussing, that was good. Um I feel I got my say. Um so I'd give the company strategy a two. Lorena Harding: Okay. Gail Ballard: Well, I think it's the the remote control conforms to the the company strategy. Joann Tyson: Okay. Sarah Baker: Yeah, Gail Ballard: Is that the question? Sarah Baker: yeah. Joann Tyson: Is it? Okay. Gail Ballard: Um. Joann Tyson: Okay, so one or two. Gail Ballard: Yeah. Joann Tyson: One. Okay, just leave it, it's fine. Gail Ballard: I'll go with two. Lorena Harding: So what about you, Brian? Sarah Baker: Um yeah, a three. Pretty much kept to the company strategy, so I would go for a a one, as we not only kept it, but we were limited by Joann Tyson: Mm. Lorena Harding: Yeah, and Lorena Harding also, like, this product Lorena Harding uh Lorena Harding uh Lorena Harding uh this meets all company strategy like our product should be as per customers' requirement, as per latest technology, and it should be environmental safe. So since our product meets all these requirements, so I would also prefer to give it rank one. So four six Gail Ballard: So one Lorena Harding: six Gail Ballard: and a half. Joann Tyson: Yeah, Lorena Harding: half. Joann Tyson: one. Lorena Harding: So we can say two or one Gail Ballard: A two. Lorena Harding: Okay. So th seven seven. Uh overall we are getting two something, but we can round it as two. Gail Ballard: Yep. Joann Tyson: Okay. Sarah Baker: Cool, Lorena Harding: Yeah. Sarah Baker: groovy. Lorena Harding: So I Gail Ballard: S Lorena Harding: think overall uh evaluation of our product is quite good. Sarah Baker: Cool. Lorena Harding: So we can launch it. Yeah. Sarah Baker: Brilliant. Joann Tyson: Woo-hoo. Sarah Baker: In which case we are done. 'Cause we've evaluated and we are within budget. Joann Tyson: Cool. Gail Ballard: Okay. Lorena Harding: So Sarah Baker: Champagne lunch Lorena Harding: yeah. Joann Tyson: Yeah. Sarah Baker: anyone? Gail Ballard: Uh. Lorena Harding: Great.

Joann Tyson and Gail Ballard presented their prototypes to the group. Two prototypes featured different fruit shapes, with one including speech recognition instead of a large number of buttons. It also featured scroll wheels for channel control. The other prototype was designed like a banana with children users in mind. Sarah Baker announced to the group that with all of their desired features, the project would go over the alotted budget; after a reanalysis of the features of the prototype, the project came in under the budget instead. It was decided that another feature could possibly be added. The group evaluated their effectiveness as a team and felt that all members worked well together and could be creative, and that the project had very good leadership. Lorena Harding led an evaluation of the prototype according to the initial project goals; the evaluation showed that most of the goals had been sufficiently satisfied in order to launch the product.

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Violeta Evans: ... Mary Angelovich: Okay. So, this is uh first meeting of design project. Um and I um like to show you the agenda for the meeting, I don't know if it was sent round to all of you. Violeta Evans: Mm, yeah. Mary Angelovich: Maybe Violeta Evans: I Mary Angelovich: not. Violeta Evans: receive Mary Angelovich: Anyway, Violeta Evans: it. Mary Angelovich: this is the the plan for today's meeting is um firstly just to introduce the project briefly, um although I'm sure you've actually got some of the information already. Then the main purpose is to so that we get to know each other a little bit more. Beverly Brunet: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: Um then we practice using some of the tools that we'll be using during the the course of the design project and the meetings um specifically the whiteboard over there. Um then we need to go through the specifics of our project plan um and discuss come up with some preliminary ideas about it. And then that's it. So we've got twenty five minutes to do that, that's until eleven twenty five. S so any Beverly Brunet: so sh. Mary Angelovich: any questions? Is i Violeta Evans: Not at this point. Mary Angelovich: not at this point. So this is our project. What we're aiming to do is to create a new remote control for a television. Um we want it to be something original, something trendy and also something user friendly, so it has to be quite intuitive that people are able to use this product. Mary Angelovich: The method that we're going to use to complete the project, that has three components as such. There's the functional design of the the remote control. We're going the way we'll do that I think is to to work individually initially and then come together for meetings to to work on that. Um similarly with the conceptual design, we'll start off by working individually with our own expertise on our own laptops and then we'll bring what we've done together. Um and then the detailed design will come after that. We'll pull it all together. Beverly Brunet: I'm a bit confused about uh what's the difference between the functional design and conceptual design? Uh i is it just uh more detail, uh as I understand it? Mary Angelovich: I think it th w we're talking the the functional design is more your um area of things where you'll be we want to look at what functions we need in the remote control and Beverly Brunet: Right. Mary Angelovich: what what specific things it it has to do but the conceptual design is um perhaps bigger than that and includes the Beverly Brunet: How Mary Angelovich: how people Beverly Brunet: how Mary Angelovich: are going Beverly Brunet: it Mary Angelovich: to Beverly Brunet: will Mary Angelovich: use Beverly Brunet: be done. Mary Angelovich: it and and that kind of thing. Beverly Brunet: So whe where do we identify the components of our uh product? Uh I think it's it's in the conceptual design phase that we identify the it's in the conceptual design phase that we identify the components of our product? Mary Angelovich: Um I think we'll we'll start that initially with the functional design Beverly Brunet: Okay. Mary Angelovich: already but then yeah. Okay, so that's just a brief overview of the p the the project itself. Um what I'd like us to do now is simultaneously introduce ourselves and start using some of the tools that we're using for for the project, specifically the whiteboard. Beverly Brunet: Hmm. Mary Angelovich: So each person in turn, I'd like us to go up to the whiteboard, the pen's just underneath it there and draw your favourite animal and then tell everyone what the f your favourite characteristics of that animal are and while you're doing that tell us your name, what your role is and perhaps how your animal relates to the role that you're taking in this project. Margaret Shell: Why are you looking at Margaret Shell? Mary Angelovich: Would you like to go first? Margaret Shell: Do I have a choice? Okay. Ooh ooh, Mary Angelovich: Oh, Margaret Shell: things falling everywhere. Mary Angelovich: yeah, Margaret Shell: Right, okay. Mary Angelovich: p put them in pockets. Margaret Shell: Cool. Mary Angelovich: You Margaret Shell: Okay. Mary Angelovich: don't have to hurry, we've got plenty of time. Margaret Shell: So, my name's Cat and I'm really not very good at this whole drawing malarkey so um Margaret Shell: Okay. Mary Angelovich: It's got no eyes. Margaret Shell: Oh, good point. Ah, the eyes always ruin it. Right. Okay, what do it's eyes like? Margaret Shell: Okay, cool. Um this is a rabbit. Mary Angelovich: I thought it might be a cat. Violeta Evans: Yeah well origi uh at first I thought it was going to be cat. Margaret Shell: Yeah, I don't think it's furry enough, Violeta Evans: Yeah Margaret Shell: make Violeta Evans: now Margaret Shell: it a Violeta Evans: I Margaret Shell: fluffy Violeta Evans: now Margaret Shell: rabbit. Violeta Evans: I understand now, yeah. Mary Angelovich: Yeah I can see by the ears. Violeta Evans: Yeah. Margaret Shell: Okay, right, it's a fluffy rabbit, blue. Rabbits don't come in blue but you know. Um okay and I like it because it's small Mary Angelovich: Mm. Margaret Shell: and it's fluffy. And one day you'll be able to getical genetically modify them and they will come in pink. Violeta Evans: Ah. Margaret Shell: Okay? Mary Angelovich: Excellent, Beverly Brunet: Mm. Mary Angelovich: and what's your what's your role within the team? Margaret Shell: I am the um I need my notebook, mm ooh top banana. Thank you. Okay, cool, I am Margaret Shell um so like I'm gonna be doing the apparently according to the little guy in the computer that knows everything the user g requirements specification of the functional design, um Beverly Brunet: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: trend watching in the conceptual design and product evad-valuation in the detailed design Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Beverly Brunet: Okay. Margaret Shell: um so yeah. Mary Angelovich: And more Beverly Brunet: 'Kay. Mary Angelovich: about yourself, you're from? Margaret Shell: Um I'm from Leicester, Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: um second year. Um what else do you want to know? I like sports um yeah, aerobics, kickboxing, spinning um and uh Mary Angelovich: But not with rabbits. Margaret Shell: not with rabbits, no Beverly Brunet: Mm. Margaret Shell: no. And vets, I like vets as well. And yeah um and I like cocktails, especially pink ones. Okay? Beverly Brunet: Cool. Mary Angelovich: Excellent, Margaret Shell: Cool. Mary Angelovich: to match the rabbit. Violeta Evans: Okay. Um so my name is Maarika. Where's the pen? Okay. Mary Angelovich: There's a an if you have not enough room there's an eraser there and you can rub Violeta Evans: Yeah, Mary Angelovich: it off. Violeta Evans: well, or I can make it smaller. Uh so um um I'm the Interface Designer in this project and my favourite animal I, m I mean I'm not so sure because I'm not so so very um familiar with all kinds of animals, but I do like dogs. Oh, sorry, maybe I should have shouldn't have said it beforehand but Beverly Brunet: Mm. Violeta Evans: mm hmm. Um well, there are different kinds of dogs, but okay um. Beverly Brunet: That's not bad at Mary Angelovich: Ah Beverly Brunet: all. Mary Angelovich: it looks like a dog. Beverly Brunet: Yep. Violeta Evans: Okay. Margaret Shell: Is a bit more impressive than my rabbit. I think it needs four legs if it's gonna walk though. Violeta Evans: Yeah, maybe it has some colourful patches, yeah. Um Mary Angelovich: the other Violeta Evans: yeah Mary Angelovich: legs Violeta Evans: and Mary Angelovich: are on the other Violeta Evans: I Mary Angelovich: side. Violeta Evans: do like dogs because they are good friends to people and they are loyal. Mm, well that's compared to some other animals like cats. Um they're really much more fun because they are not so independent. Um yeah maybe maybe the fact that they protect their home as well, yeah. Um what it has to do with with my role in the project is hard to say. Uh I hope to be loyal to the project and not to n not to um let people doing similar projects know the details of our project or something, yeah. Mary Angelovich: And where where are you from? Violeta Evans: I'm from Estonia uh, Mary Angelovich: Estonia. Violeta Evans: yep. Um so is there anything else you'd like to know? Oh, right, my roles, um so um in the different um stages of the design, so at first I will be responsible for um for yeah, designing the technical functions of the um um of the remote control uh then in the in the conceptual design stage I need to um come up with uh interface concept and then in the last um stage I will be responsible for the int infa for the user interface design. Okay, Beverly Brunet: Thank you. Violeta Evans: that's it. Beverly Brunet: Okay um I'll do some I'll rub the features and let the drawing stay. 'Kay um my name is Gaurav. Um my favourite animal one of my favourite animals is a cow. I've got no idea how to draw a cow. Mary Angelovich: Good luck. Beverly Brunet: Uh this is going to be Margaret Shell: They're not just like a big round body and then some really skinny legs and then just Beverly Brunet: Yeah, Margaret Shell: some Beverly Brunet: that'll Margaret Shell: horns. Beverly Brunet: do. Okay, so let let Margaret Shell draw the body first. Mary Angelovich: Mm. Beverly Brunet: Big, round body, really skinny legs and they've got a long tail and a long face. Mary Angelovich: It's eating. Margaret Shell: It looks like Eeyore. Beverly Brunet: And there is some grass there. Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Beverly Brunet: So this is what I like about cows that Margaret Shell: Horns, Beverly Brunet: they just keeps Margaret Shell: draw some Beverly Brunet: sitting Margaret Shell: horns. Beverly Brunet: there eating grass, they do not disturb anybody um they're kind of Buddhist in a way. So yeah, I like cows. Um my my role in the project is um uh Beverly Brunet, so I'm supposed to design all the details of of the product um ho how it works and whatever it'll mm take during the functional role, what are the various functions that have to be performed by it uh during the um conceptual design, what are the various components of it and um finally, I'm not too sure what was the last part. Um the detailed design, I I guess it will again be the identification of the components and how they integrate with each other. Um I'm from India. Uh I'm doing my P_H_D_ in Psycholinguistics, I sit at the Department of Psychology. Yeah. Mary Angelovich: Excellent. Beverly Brunet: Thank you. Violeta Evans: Thanks. Mary Angelovich: Right, now now it's my turn obviously. Mary Angelovich: Okay, Beverly Brunet: That doesn't Mary Angelovich: here's Beverly Brunet: look Mary Angelovich: a space. Beverly Brunet: like a cow, does Violeta Evans: It Beverly Brunet: it? Violeta Evans: looks very very cute. Mary Angelovich: Yeah, I like the cow. I'm Violeta Evans: Yeah. Mary Angelovich: Jen. Violeta Evans: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: Um I like dogs too, but I can't do that already because I can't draw a dog as well as you can. I like Mm. Margaret Shell: Is that a lizard? Beverly Brunet: No way. Mary Angelovich: Hmm. Violeta Evans: Wow. Mary Angelovich: It's a gecko. Violeta Evans: Ah, Beverly Brunet: Ah Violeta Evans: a gecko, Beverly Brunet: okay. Violeta Evans: okay. Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Margaret Shell: Is there a difference? Violeta Evans: Is a ar Mary Angelovich: They're Violeta Evans: are they also like lizards or are they Mary Angelovich: Yeah, Violeta Evans: yeah, Mary Angelovich: they're l Violeta Evans: they Mary Angelovich: it's Violeta Evans: are Mary Angelovich: a kind of lizard. Violeta Evans: mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: And I I like geckos because they remind Margaret Shell of warm places Violeta Evans: Ah. Mary Angelovich: and, Beverly Brunet: Uh-huh. Mary Angelovich: and where I was living in Cambodia they used to live in my house and they were on the ceiling and they would make little gecko noises Violeta Evans: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: in Violeta Evans: I hope Mary Angelovich: the Violeta Evans: you Mary Angelovich: evening. Violeta Evans: don't like snakes, do you? Mary Angelovich: I don't like snakes. I come Violeta Evans: Okay. Mary Angelovich: from Australia and we have nasty snakes. Violeta Evans: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: That's where I'm from, Australia. I'm from Melbourne and I'm your Project Manager for today and Beverly Brunet: Mm. Mary Angelovich: my role is basically to keep things going and make sure that you all work together in a productive way, so that by the end of the day we come up with a great product. Violeta Evans: Wonderful. Mary Angelovich: Okay. Beverly Brunet: Thank you. Mary Angelovich: So, let's see what's next in the PowerPoint presentation. So, Margaret Shell: If Mary Angelovich: I've Margaret Shell: you Mary Angelovich: just Margaret Shell: right Mary Angelovich: thought Margaret Shell: click Mary Angelovich: yeah Margaret Shell: on it Mary Angelovich: I've Margaret Shell: you Mary Angelovich: just Margaret Shell: can Mary Angelovich: thought about this that we could even put it much more professionally Beverly Brunet: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: as there we go. Okay, so this is the um overall budget for our project. We've got um we're planning to sell these remote controls for that means we've got five minutes. Um we're planning to sell the remote controls for twenty five Euros each. Um and with that we're aiming for a profit of fifty million Euros. And that's selling them on the international market, not just in the U_K_. Um so to do that our finance people estimate that we need production costs of maximum twelve and a half Euro so that we can reach that profit target. Mary Angelovich: So that's something to keep in mind while you're designing. Okay. Hmm. This is let Margaret Shell just skip ahead to see that's the last thing, okay. We've only got a couple of minutes. Does anyone have any first ideas to bounce around about um what we're thinking of this Violeta Evans: Yep. Mary Angelovich: remote control? Violeta Evans: I'm just wondering whether whether there is like any special feature that we want to have w want this remote control have as opposed to the already existing ones. Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. I think that's probably something that w it's best if we take away with us, but if Beverly Brunet: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: we all have a think, when we go away from the meeting, what specific things could be um included in this remote control that that Beverly Brunet: I think uh Mary Angelovich: are out Beverly Brunet: i Mary Angelovich: of Beverly Brunet: in Mary Angelovich: the ordinary. Beverly Brunet: the beginning uh one thing was that was mentioned was that it should be mm trendy, user friendly and original so um I think your point is relevant as far as the originality is concerned, that we should provide some features that are quite unique Mary Angelovich: Something Beverly Brunet: to this. Mary Angelovich: something new. Margaret Shell: Yeah, I was looking Beverly Brunet: Mm. Margaret Shell: at the website, and the other things that they've made and I like put down some like inspirational words like that I got from looking at the pictures. Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: So the motto is um we put the fashion in electronics and um so it's something that is sleek and stylish but it's still functional, Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: you know? So I'm kind of thinking, you know like those phones that they have, the new generation ones, where they don't actually have any buttons on them and stuff like that. Mary Angelovich: Uh-huh. Beverly Brunet: Alright. Margaret Shell: You know, so something heading towards that, so it's not overly I mean I don't know what h most of the buttons do on my remote controls, so I figure how many do you need, you know? Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Beverly Brunet: Mm. Margaret Shell: Okay. Mary Angelovich: So perhaps some sort of menu-based thing, or Margaret Shell: Something that's a little less crowded than this, like Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: I mean you know, theoretically you can do all kinds of things with your T_V_, right? Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Margaret Shell: But what do most people do? They turn it on, they watch Beverly Brunet: Yeah. Margaret Shell: certain specified channels, Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Margaret Shell: you know, and then they turn it off again. Beverly Brunet: There is a Margaret Shell: Sometimes Beverly Brunet: lot of functionality Margaret Shell: they play a movie. Beverly Brunet: in there that is not used ninety percent of the time, Margaret Shell: Yeah, Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Beverly Brunet: but Margaret Shell: so Beverly Brunet: will be used ten percent of the time, Margaret Shell: there's no Mary Angelovich: So, Beverly Brunet: yeah. Margaret Shell: need to have buttons on it to Mary Angelovich: no. Margaret Shell: do that, maybe to Beverly Brunet: Yep. Margaret Shell: do Mary Angelovich: It could be one button for a menu or something, if Margaret Shell: Yeah. Mary Angelovich: you Violeta Evans: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: really Beverly Brunet: And Mary Angelovich: need Beverly Brunet: then Mary Angelovich: to go Beverly Brunet: use Mary Angelovich: and do Margaret Shell: So, Beverly Brunet: the Mary Angelovich: that. Margaret Shell: if you're the kind of sad case that knows how your remote control works, then you know Beverly Brunet: Mm. Margaret Shell: that's fine and you can do it on the screen rather than everybody else having to have those buttons, which just confuse them. Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Margaret Shell: Hmm. Mary Angelovich: Excellent. Margaret Shell: 'Cause like if you look at the train, it's just very like, there's no extra bits on it, the train on the website and I dunno if Mary Angelovich: Oh I Margaret Shell: you Mary Angelovich: haven't Margaret Shell: can put Mary Angelovich: had Margaret Shell: it Mary Angelovich: a look Margaret Shell: up on Mary Angelovich: yet, Margaret Shell: the thing Mary Angelovich: yep. Margaret Shell: um but it is just like a long like thing used for mu moving people, but it looks really pretty too. Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Great. Any other immediate thoughts Beverly Brunet: Mm. Mary Angelovich: before we move along? Beverly Brunet: Uh we can aim for I mean we can think about all these little things, but we can aim for something wi that gives a high battery life, although Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Beverly Brunet: I don't think that um it's a huge problem for remote controls anyway, battery life, uh every now and then you need to replace the batteries. Mary Angelovich: Yeah. Beverly Brunet: Um Violeta Evans: Yeah but Beverly Brunet: Hmm. Violeta Evans: uh I mean e even though it has to be re original we shouldn't uh go like too far away from from the usual ones, because otherwise Beverly Brunet: Yeah. Violeta Evans: the new users will just have a Beverly Brunet: A Violeta Evans: lot Beverly Brunet: big learning Violeta Evans: of problems Beverly Brunet: curve, Violeta Evans: with l Beverly Brunet: yeah. Mary Angelovich: Mm-hmm. Violeta Evans: learning, yeah, yeah. Beverly Brunet: Yeah. So, i it should kind of fit in as well, and Mary Angelovich: It's like Beverly Brunet: the Mary Angelovich: those fancy websites Beverly Brunet: stereotype of a Violeta Evans: Hm-hmm. Beverly Brunet: yeah. Mary Angelovich: that you can't access because you have no idea how to get in, but the designers thought they were great. Okay, so we need to wrap it up now, so that we can go away and get on with some of this. Um we've got another meeting in thirty minutes, so you're you'll be getting specific instructions once you go back to your workspace, but im basically you're looking at the working design, Beverly Brunet: Alright. Mary Angelovich: you're looking at the technical functions design, and for you it's the user requirements specification, Margaret Shell: Mm-hmm. Mary Angelovich: like you said at the start. Okay? Violeta Evans: Okay. Mary Angelovich: Thanks for that. Violeta Evans: Thank you. Mary Angelovich: Uh I'll see you in half an hour. Violeta Evans: See you. Mary Angelovich: Carry the laptops back again. Beverly Brunet: Hmm. Mary Angelovich: Do we need to unplug things? Probably.

Mary Angelovich opens the meeting by going over the agenda. She explains the project, which is to create a new remote control for television that should be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The three components of completing the project will be functional, conceptual, and detailed design. They introduce themselves by going up to the white board and stating their name, role, drawing their favorite animal, and sharing their favorite characteristic about the animal. After they talk about their overall budget, they discuss what special features they want to include in this remote control that existing ones do not have. They discuss making a menu-based remote which would be less crowded with buttons and therefore stylish and sleek but functional. They end the meeting with Mary Angelovich going over the task each member is to complete before the next meeting.

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Arlene Bustos: Excellent. So um I sent you the agenda it, was on the in the project documents. I don't know if you got a chance to just have a look at it. Anyway, it's the meeting's gonna follow more or less the same structure as last time, so we'll go round each of you in turn and you can give your presentations on what you've been up to. Um and at the end of that we need to discuss what you've come with, so that we can make on the key remote control concepts, so that's we need to know about the components' properties, materials, the user interface and any trends that Glenda Price has been watching. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: Okay. Um, do you wanna start again? Marian Miguel: Okay. Arlene Bustos: Let Glenda Price we've Marian Miguel: Right Arlene Bustos: got forty Marian Miguel: s Arlene Bustos: minutes. Marian Miguel: so I haven't made a PowerPoint Arlene Bustos: You haven't Marian Miguel: presentation, Arlene Bustos: made a PowerPoint, okay. Marian Miguel: yeah, I I thought I'll use the whiteboard instead. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Um mm, Arlene Bustos: Let's hope the pen holds out. Marian Miguel: okay, so basically I'll start off by uh I thought I'll use the whiteboard because we have so many different options and what we can do is that we can start um uh rubbing off the options that we do not require Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: and putting in the options that uh are m or highlighting or underlining them or something like that. Okay, I'll start again with a brief introduction to connect that anyway Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: brief introduction to the insides of a remote control and uh then we can probably uh discuss the various components. Yeah. Okay, so w what you see here is so this is the outside of the remote, right? Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: If you open it, you have a circuit board here, right, and this is the chip that I was talking about last time. This basically sends information to a tr uh transistor here, which then uh sends the information to an L_E_D_ device here. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: If you flip the printed circuit board, and this is th the most important point here, uh everything else is kind of Okay, so if you flip the circuit board, this is what it looks like. So you see for example a particular button attaches to a particular place on the P_C_B_ Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: and uh on pressing this button I a circuit completes, the information goes to the chip, which is somewhere here and the chip that tra then translates the code into an infra infrared radiation, which goes goes out through there. So uh the important point that I read over the website was uh that the configurations of these printed circuit circuit boards uh are quite cheap to make, you can Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: ge get them printed as you want to, so w we can have a configuration um irrespective of the cost, the way we want to have. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Right? So that's the important point here, so these are the different options that we have. Okay. So the batteries, I'll start with the battery, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: right? So they can be simple which is like uh the normal batteries in uh our uh the cells, yeah? Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Uh thes these are the kind different kind of batteries that the company makes, right? So. And dynamos. Um Glenda Price: Does that mean like a wind-up one? Marian Miguel: yeah, yeah. So uh Glenda Price: A wind-up remote. Marian Miguel: I don't know if even if you want to consider this, but these are the different things that the company makes, so Arlene Bustos: Okay. Marian Miguel: th they'll they'll since uh they'll come internally from the company, they'll be eas uh cheaper, uh all these options. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: So the third one is uh the kinetic energy ones. Glenda Price: You could make the hand dynamo into an exercise bike, and then people could exercise whilst watching T_V_. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: And charging their remote, Glenda Price: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: yeah. Glenda Price: and stop worrying about the whole R_S_I_ from the remote thing, 'cause Marian Miguel: Yeah, Glenda Price: that's just Marian Miguel: it's a good option. Victoria Torry: So what was what was Marian Miguel: The Victoria Torry: this k Marian Miguel: the kinetic energy one is uh that e uh uh they are usually modern watches, Victoria Torry: Okay. Marian Miguel: since our Arlene Bustos: Uh Marian Miguel: hand Arlene Bustos: yeah. Marian Miguel: keeps moving, it keeps the watch ticking. But Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: I dunno i if it is a good idea for a remote control, Arlene Bustos: For a remote, Marian Miguel: because Arlene Bustos: 'cause you Marian Miguel: it'll just lie there for a Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: long while sometimes. But Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: as soon as you pick it up it moves and then again it uh re recharges or something. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: And the fourth option is the solar cells, Glenda Price: Yay. Marian Miguel: which are also made by the company. Environment friendly. Okay um so I'll list things and then we can come back and discuss Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: what what we think from uh everybody's perspective. There are different cases that can be provided. They can be basically the shape of the cases, they can be flat, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: they can be curved with uh one-sided curved and one side flat, and they can be curved with on both the sides. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: These are the three options, right? Um Victoria Torry: Um you mean this would be like the the overall shape of the remote control, yeah, Marian Miguel: Yeah, Victoria Torry: mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: would it be flat on both the Victoria Torry: Yeah, Marian Miguel: sides, Victoria Torry: mm-hmm, Marian Miguel: would be curved Victoria Torry: mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: from one side, or Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: whatever Victoria Torry: mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: uh there were different kind of supplements available, um like it can be in plastic, rubber, wood, or Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: titanium, Arlene Bustos: Okay. Marian Miguel: right? Glenda Price: Did you say Marian Miguel: Wo Glenda Price: wool? Arlene Bustos: Wood, Marian Miguel: wo wood. Arlene Bustos: wood. Glenda Price: Wood. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Glenda Price: Oh right. Arlene Bustos: A fluffy Marian Miguel: Not wool. Arlene Bustos: remote. Glenda Price: Yeah, you'll understand why when we get to my presenta. Marian Miguel: Oh really? Okay. Arlene Bustos: Huh. Marian Miguel: Um the so uh we can use even um a certain titanium is also used uh in the company to make uh uh some space design equipment, so it's kind of um uh it'll be probably nicer to use, because it relates to the overall image of the company, but uh it cannot be used on a double curved surface. If we choose this, we cannot use titanium. Arlene Bustos: Mm. Marian Miguel: For for these two we can use titanium, wood, rubber, or plastic. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Yeah? Uh okay, the interface options now. So we can have push-buttons, like most remotes do and our company is an expert in making push-buttons. Ooh. Uh we can have scroll wheels like the ones on um Glenda Price: Sony. Marian Miguel: uh mouse pointers Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: uh uh Glenda Price: Sony Ericsson mobile phones has it. Marian Miguel: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Glenda Price: Mm. Marian Miguel: So, and they have they can even have an an integrated uh push-button inside the scrolling Arlene Bustos: Okay. Marian Miguel: thing. The scroll plus push. So this is something that has been recently developed by the company, um in the last decade, so not too recent. And L_C_D_s, we can have L_C_D_s. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: The various electronic options are um uh so th this concerns firs first of all the the chips I I showed you at uh so there's there's a chip behind this one, right? The P_C_B_ is uh inexpensive, so we can put put in uh whatever we want, but Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: the various integrated circuit options are, we have either a simple one or a regular or advanced. And uh the price goes up Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: as we go down, obviously. Um okay, so the good thing about uh wh wh why why we would want to use advanced u why we might want to use advanced is that L_C_D_s can only come with the advanced chip. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Um the we need regular or advanced for uh scroll wheels. Right? Um and the chip basically includes the infra infrared sender. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Uh besides this in electr under electronics uh also the company has started making a sample sender, which is did not explained what i what it was, but I'm guessing that uh so they have a sample sender and a sample speaker. So I'm guessing that uh the sample speaker is probably something like um uh you know, as soon as you press a button, it it mm uh give gives you feedback, one five or whatever. Yeah, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: on. Um and uh I dunno whether sample sender sender has to do something with voice recognition or not, but anyway. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: So, these are the different options that we have. Okay, so th that's that's basically now now uh I think that uh we can integrate um uh you know, uh the user interface uh and uh the marketing things in that, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: keep uh taking out things from this and uh Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: underlining things that are important, Arlene Bustos: Excellent. Marian Miguel: yeah. Arlene Bustos: Do you wanna Victoria Torry: Okay. Arlene Bustos: stay somewhere near the board, so that if we need to Marian Miguel: Yeah, yeah, sure. Arlene Bustos: you can sit down, but Marian Miguel: Sure. Arlene Bustos: just Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: we might need you to leap up. What Victoria Torry: Okay. Arlene Bustos: are you, PowerPoint, or Victoria Torry: Um I have some PowerPoint, yeah. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: Okay. Victoria Torry: Oh. Arlene Bustos: Do you Victoria Torry: 'Kay. Arlene Bustos: think these pens can give you cancer of the hand? Some sort of radiation? Glenda Price: No it's got its little camera in there Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: plug, it in. Victoria Torry: Okay. Glenda Price: 'S a Marian Miguel: Yeah, it should should do it. Yeah. Arlene Bustos: Right, interface concept. Victoria Torry: Okay. Um to be honest, I mentioned some some of the things which which could fit on the on the this talk um this time, I I mentioned them already in the previous talk. Arlene Bustos: That's fine. Victoria Torry: So um yeah, this time um I might not have them on the slides but I I can just Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: mention them aw again. Okay. So um I thought um I would also include the definition of user interface um so it's the aspects of a of of a computer system or programme which can be seen uh by the user um and and which uh the mechanisms that the user uses to control its operation and input data. So this would p includes things like shape and size and buttons and um voice recognition as well, and colour, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: and so on. Um um the method I employed this time was a again having a look to related products and mainly on the internet and then um analyse them uh from the point of view of user fen friendliness and also um whether their appearance was was pleasant. Um and then um this uh this um this can help us to decide which features we want to incorporate Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: in our product. So some findings um um. So in in the case of many user interfaces, they're just so full of buttons that it's actually uh hard to find the ones you you really um want to use and um and it's just confusing, it takes y know time to learn. Um okay, and I thought I would just quickly show some of them that I found. Okay, some of them are here. Um well the picture is not very clear, but as you can see, there are actu oi, oh oh oh, sorry for that. 'S go back. Marian Miguel: That's Victoria Torry: Ah, Marian Miguel: nice one. Victoria Torry: no, please. Okay, so yeah, they're quite big and have many many buttons. Actually of the of all these I personally p prefer this one, because it's it's the smallest and and with with least uh with the smallest number of buttons as well. And I would say even the appearance of some of them is kind of Glenda Price: Ugly. Victoria Torry: not so nice. Arlene Bustos: Mm. Victoria Torry: Um okay. So let's carry on with this. Um So uh um o other findings um some new things um used, uh some of them were mentioned already by our Technical um Designer uh. Our own company has developed a new in user interface uh wait, no this is not the one. Okay, there is a we can uh include voice recognition and um it allows i it's possible to record eighty different voice samples Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: on it. Marian Miguel: Mm. Victoria Torry: Uh so uh this uh this one was already mentioned uh the L_C_ Arlene Bustos: It's Victoria Torry: display. Arlene Bustos: yeah. Victoria Torry: Um s another new development is a scroll button, which was also th also already mentioned. And uh our own manufacturing division ha has uh designed a new um uh programmable speech uh mm sorry uh speaker unit I guess it's it should be. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Victoria Torry: Um and this means that um once uh uh it it it comes together with a voice recognition, but it's once once the mm um gadget uh recognises uh the voice of the speaker, there can be a um pre-programmed answer, for example, you can pick up the remote control and say something to it like hello and it says Arlene Bustos: Uh-huh, Victoria Torry: some hello and Arlene Bustos: hi Victoria Torry: your name or whatever. Arlene Bustos: yeah. Victoria Torry: So Marian Miguel: Mm. Victoria Torry: I mean this is also one of the n dev new developments which we might consider if we wanted to Marian Miguel: Uh Victoria Torry: include. Marian Miguel: sorry, uh can you go back for a second? Um uh are you sure wha what this means, a spinning wheel with the L_C_ display? Uh oh Arlene Bustos: It's like the like you said, no? The scroll scroll Glenda Price: Yeah, Marian Miguel: yeah Glenda Price: you Victoria Torry: No Glenda Price: can't Arlene Bustos: wheel. Marian Miguel: are Victoria Torry: no, Marian Miguel: th Victoria Torry: the scroll button is a different thing. I I have a picture if you just a moment, I'll I'll show you. I wasn't completely sure myself, but I think it's just like um it's it's a wheel, it's like not separate buttons. Look, Marian Miguel: Oh okay, Victoria Torry: this one here. Glenda Price: Oh, Marian Miguel: the iPod Glenda Price: it's like Victoria Torry: But Glenda Price: the Marian Miguel: thing, Victoria Torry: I'm Glenda Price: iPod. Marian Miguel: yeah. Victoria Torry: I'm not really sure whether whether you can really turn it round, Glenda Price: G yeah, Victoria Torry: it's Glenda Price: no, Victoria Torry: like you Glenda Price: you Victoria Torry: press Glenda Price: can. Victoria Torry: this Marian Miguel: Uh Victoria Torry: or Marian Miguel: it's Victoria Torry: this Marian Miguel: the Glenda Price: It's Marian Miguel: iPod Victoria Torry: or Glenda Price: like Marian Miguel: uh kind of uh Glenda Price: it's like where you you know how you have your your mouse, and Arlene Bustos: Uh-huh. Glenda Price: y you go round and i it's kind Marian Miguel: Alright, Glenda Price: of like that and you Marian Miguel: right. Glenda Price: spin round and it Marian Miguel: Okay, okay. Glenda Price: yeah. Marian Miguel: So Glenda Price: It Marian Miguel: instead Glenda Price: is Marian Miguel: of going down you just spin Glenda Price: You Marian Miguel: yeah, Glenda Price: just Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: go round and it is a bit Marian Miguel: yeah. Glenda Price: weird at first, but it's actually very like fast. Marian Miguel: Uh-huh. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: I like the the wheels that click on the side you you get 'em much slower, so it's quite good if you like searching quite a lot of stuff. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Right. Victoria Torry: Uh-huh. Glenda Price: Do you know, if you're lookin if you're th scrolling through the A_ to Z_ of your music and you're looking for something at T_, Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: then it's a lot faster than the wheel, but you've got a lot less control over it. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Right. So Victoria Torry: Mm. Marian Miguel: maybe I should include that here as well, L_C_D_s Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: um Victoria Torry: Uh Marian Miguel: plus spinning. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Victoria Torry: Okay, and the personal preferences are pretty much the same as as as last time. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: It it has to be small, simple. Okay, we decided to include voice recognition, so to have the standard uh major buttons like on, off, um ch the channels and and then um volume and then the rest would be a menu on the screen. Um and I I also thought uh if we want to keep it small and nice um and actually I I quite like the idea of a scroll a scrolling button, I thought it could be for for voice like, I dunno, it mm like on a um i like it used to be on Walkmans or something. There is uh I think there is no reason why we couldn't use something like this for for the remote control. Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Excellent. Okay, straight to trends, and then we can discuss it Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: all at once. Glenda Price: Okay, I've put the copy of the presentation in um the Arlene Bustos: The project documents. Glenda Price: yeah. Arlene Bustos: Excellent. If you two could both do that Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: as well, in case we need to refer to it. Glenda Price: Cool. Arlene Bustos: Here it comes. Arlene Bustos: Okay. Glenda Price: Fabulous. Okay, cool. Um so what I did was to search the internet to come up with market trends and you know what users are gonna be wanting in the the near future. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: Okay. Right. Now, the first aspect is apparently twice as important as the second aspect, which is twice as important as the third a aspect. Arlene Bustos: Okay. Glenda Price: So, I mean the the easy to use thing is fairly low down on Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: the which I think given the target group is what you would expect, really. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: Um, you know, people want something new, something technologically innovative and different, so the whole idea with the L_C_D_s and the spinning and the colours and the voice recognition is quite like, quite the thing to go for. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Okay. Glenda Price: And um, yeah it wants to look fancy, fancy look and feel. Marian Miguel: So Glenda Price: So Marian Miguel: um uh maybe uh as you're discussing things, is it okay if we Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: just Arlene Bustos: yeah, Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: sure. Marian Miguel: keep Glenda Price: Yeah, Marian Miguel: highlighting things Glenda Price: yeah. Marian Miguel: here? Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Right. So mm Arlene Bustos: That's Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: over on the interface, Marian Miguel: so it Arlene Bustos: if if Marian Miguel: yeah, Arlene Bustos: you could put Marian Miguel: so probably voice recognition is is kind of Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: important, right? Um Arlene Bustos: And maybe the L_C_D_ Marian Miguel: and Arlene Bustos: and spinning Marian Miguel: an yeah. Arlene Bustos: so Marian Miguel: Okay, Arlene Bustos: that Marian Miguel: I Arlene Bustos: means Marian Miguel: I Arlene Bustos: we Marian Miguel: have Arlene Bustos: need Marian Miguel: a Arlene Bustos: an Marian Miguel: point Arlene Bustos: advanced Marian Miguel: about L_C_D_, Arlene Bustos: thing. Marian Miguel: I dunno if it is the right point to take it up. W uh L_C_D_s are basically for feedback, right, to Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: the user who's pressing Glenda Price: Mm. Marian Miguel: buttons, and the feedback can come through television itself, so do we need an L_C_D_ on the remote? Glenda Price: Depends how fast your television runs, really, don't don't you think? I mean we've got one of those um Telewest boxes and Marian Miguel: Mm. Glenda Price: you put the number in the remote and then you wait and then it goes to the T_V_ and then you wait, and then it comes, so i it actually takes quite a long time. Arlene Bustos: Mm. Glenda Price: And Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: if you get the number in wrong, then it's a bit of a pain, so I think, you know, a screen on the remote would probably cut down your time on that. But like remotes do tend to get f thrown about a bit. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: It it is also Glenda Price: You know? Arlene Bustos: quite nice though to to have something here so you don't interrupt the picture on the screen, so if you're Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: watching something Marian Miguel: That's true, Glenda Price: And Marian Miguel: yeah, Glenda Price: i Marian Miguel: that's Glenda Price: it would Marian Miguel: also Glenda Price: be like I mean if you could make it integrate with the T_V_ then it could come up with new information about what's on, and you could just see that on the remote rather Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: than Arlene Bustos: Rather than having to interrupt your Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: viewing pleasure. Glenda Price: But Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: um I think maybe a way to do it would be a similar way to how you have your mobile phone, you know, like you have the slidey ones and you have the flippy ones and then the screen's protected so it doesn't Arlene Bustos: Mm. Glenda Price: actually get scratched. Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: So you can have like what looks like a normal remote control, you know or Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: like a minimalist remote control. So you got your buttons one to nine, your on and off Marian Miguel: Mm right. Glenda Price: and your volume on that and then Arlene Bustos: And Glenda Price: if Arlene Bustos: then Glenda Price: you Arlene Bustos: you Glenda Price: want Arlene Bustos: can Glenda Price: to Arlene Bustos: flip Glenda Price: mess about Arlene Bustos: it open. Glenda Price: with it, you flip it open and, yeah. Marian Miguel: Okay. So now we seem to have a consensus that L_C_D_s are definitely the way to go Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: because Arlene Bustos: I think Marian Miguel: of Arlene Bustos: so. Marian Miguel: style and Glenda Price: Yeah, so that kind of decides your whole chip thing. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: You you agree? Maarika, Victoria Torry: Yep, yeah. Marian Miguel: yeah? Yeah. Arlene Bustos: Right. Marian Miguel: So Glenda Price: Okay? Marian Miguel: L_C_D_s, yeah, definitely. Go on. Glenda Price: Cool. Okay, apparently, fruit and vegetables will be providing inspiration. Sorry, I discovered clip art. Um so these will be an important feature for clothes, shoes and furniture. So I mean, I'm taking this to mean, you know, curviness. Do you know? 'Cause you don't tend to get flat vegetables. Arlene Bustos: Yeah, and Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: possibly Glenda Price: You know? Arlene Bustos: even uneven, like Glenda Price: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: not Glenda Price: bit of asymmetry Arlene Bustos: not symmet yeah. Glenda Price: and stuff. But that would be a good way to to get in the whole um R_S_I_ issue in there, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: because Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: I mean if you think most people use the remote control with their right hand ha right hands so you wanna you curve it so that it's suitable for use Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: with the right hand. Marian Miguel: Mm. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: Um yeah, I'm not quite sure about the relevance of material will be spongy. Um Arlene Bustos: Something a bit squishy and Glenda Price: Yeah, but I mean Marian Miguel: Yeah, we Victoria Torry: So Glenda Price: y Marian Miguel: we Victoria Torry: it Glenda Price: you Marian Miguel: have Victoria Torry: could Glenda Price: have Victoria Torry: be Glenda Price: to Victoria Torry: like a rubbery Marian Miguel: we have rubber, Victoria Torry: yeah, uh-huh. Marian Miguel: but there is a problem that I forgot to discuss with the um with using Glenda Price: Well I suppose you wouldn't get a remote uh an electric shock off your remote control if it was made of rubber. Arlene Bustos: Yeah, and it'd help if you drop it, it protects it as well. Glenda Price: Yeah, yeah. Arlene Bustos: To some degree. Marian Miguel: So if if we use uh latex cases, they won't allow us to use solar cells, as an energy source that is the constraint, Arlene Bustos: Uh-huh. Marian Miguel: so um we could use titanium, wood or plastic uh Arlene Bustos: Or if Marian Miguel: or Arlene Bustos: we want to use the Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: the latex, then we have to go with one of the other um Glenda Price: If Marian Miguel: Yeah, Glenda Price: it's Marian Miguel: w Glenda Price: made Arlene Bustos: power Glenda Price: of Marian Miguel: energy Glenda Price: rubber Arlene Bustos: things. Glenda Price: you Marian Miguel: source. Glenda Price: could get the kinetic energy fairly easily there, you Arlene Bustos: From Glenda Price: could just Marian Miguel: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: from Glenda Price: bounce Marian Miguel: tap it Glenda Price: it Arlene Bustos: bouncing Marian Miguel: on Glenda Price: up Marian Miguel: the desk, Glenda Price: and down. Arlene Bustos: it. Marian Miguel: yeah. Arlene Bustos: You can have it as like a little ball to bounce, that Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: flips open. Glenda Price: Um Marian Miguel: Mm. Glenda Price: so yeah, um Marian Miguel: So probably Glenda Price: okay. Marian Miguel: double curved surface is the way to go, yeah, Glenda Price: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: Mm yeah. Glenda Price: yeah. Marian Miguel: Or or curved at one end and flat on the top, because I I'm not sure if it is flat on both both the sides, then ho how much easy would it be to reach for buttons, etcetera. Um Glenda Price: You have to have a certain element of flatness, I think. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Glenda Price: It it depends on the whole ergonomics of it, you know, put your hands so y it's the least Marian Miguel: Yeah. Glenda Price: movement Marian Miguel: Yeah, Glenda Price: basically. Marian Miguel: singe Arlene Bustos: Uh-huh. Marian Miguel: single side curved or double side curved does not say too much, does it? It Glenda Price: No, I Marian Miguel: uh Glenda Price: d I don't think it makes a lot of difference. I I have one of those s slidey phones and I mean the back is essentially straight, Arlene Bustos: Mm. Glenda Price: but it's curvy, Marian Miguel: Mm. Glenda Price: so. Besides, Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: Uh Arlene Bustos: 'cause Glenda Price: you have Arlene Bustos: the Glenda Price: four sides Marian Miguel: I think Glenda Price: to a Marian Miguel: uh Glenda Price: thing, so I mean Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: does curved one side mean one side is straight Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: and, you know curved two sides means the whole thing is just a big curvy p thing? Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: Dunno. Marian Miguel: Di now did it say anywhere in your research material about this sliding stuff uh because um according to the information that I have, I think uh the onl only options that we have with the case is are these three. Glenda Price: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Uh eith either we have uh a flat surfaced uh case or a curved surfaced case. It does Arlene Bustos: Nothing Marian Miguel: not say anything Arlene Bustos: to Marian Miguel: about uh Arlene Bustos: open Marian Miguel: whether Arlene Bustos: them. Marian Miguel: technically, you know, this this stuff is available at all. Glenda Price: Yeah. Uh it's it's more about the protecting the L_C_D_, which I Marian Miguel: Right, Glenda Price: think is where it came Marian Miguel: yeah, Glenda Price: from. Marian Miguel: yeah. Glenda Price: But no, my research didn't tell Glenda Price anything, which is why we have all the pictures, 'cause I had nothing better to Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: do with my time. Marian Miguel: Okay. Glenda Price: Okay, cool. Arlene Bustos: Anything else? What've we got? Glenda Price: Uh combine style with a level of functionality, um beauty and practicality and a thing of beauty and p function. Arlene Bustos: Okay, Marian Miguel: Cool, thanks. Glenda Price: Okay? Arlene Bustos: so. Victoria Torry: Thanks Arlene Bustos: Looking at what we've got, we we want an L_C_D_ display with a spinning Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: wheel. Marian Miguel: Let's let's try to r rub off Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: things Arlene Bustos: rub off Marian Miguel: and Arlene Bustos: some Marian Miguel: yeah, Arlene Bustos: of those. Marian Miguel: so um hand dynamos are definitely out, right? You Victoria Torry: Yeah Marian Miguel: you Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: got a wind Victoria Torry: uh-hum Marian Miguel: dynamo, Arlene Bustos: it's Victoria Torry: yeah. Arlene Bustos: not Marian Miguel: yeah. Arlene Bustos: that's not streamlined and sexy, having Marian Miguel: Okay. Arlene Bustos: a having a wind Marian Miguel: Um Arlene Bustos: up. Marian Miguel: kinetic energy does seem to have some kind of uh Arlene Bustos: I think Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: tha Marian Miguel: appeal, but uh Glenda Price: It's Marian Miguel: it's Glenda Price: about the practicality of it really, isn't Marian Miguel: Yeah. Glenda Price: it? You know? Marian Miguel: As Glenda Price: I mean Marian Miguel: against Glenda Price: if Marian Miguel: a watch, which constantly keeps moving, this this thing will have to be tapped every time, which which might be very frustrating for the user. Arlene Bustos: Depends how much how much movement Marian Miguel: Kinetic energy Arlene Bustos: it really Marian Miguel: it Arlene Bustos: needs. Marian Miguel: needs Arlene Bustos: Pr Marian Miguel: I don't have too Arlene Bustos: presumably Marian Miguel: much technical information Arlene Bustos: if they're suggesting Marian Miguel: on that, yeah, Arlene Bustos: it, then we Marian Miguel: right. Arlene Bustos: could use it. Marian Miguel: Okay, let's keep it Arlene Bustos: I'd Marian Miguel: option Arlene Bustos: I'd keep Marian Miguel: uh keep Arlene Bustos: it Marian Miguel: an Arlene Bustos: on. Marian Miguel: option, yeah. Um the flat co completely flat case is definitely out, Arlene Bustos: We Marian Miguel: right? Arlene Bustos: don't want Marian Miguel: It Victoria Torry: Yeah Arlene Bustos: that Marian Miguel: has Arlene Bustos: it's Marian Miguel: to Victoria Torry: it's Arlene Bustos: no Marian Miguel: be at Arlene Bustos: it's Marian Miguel: least Victoria Torry: yeah. Arlene Bustos: not Marian Miguel: curved from Arlene Bustos: not Marian Miguel: one Arlene Bustos: vegetable. Marian Miguel: side, yeah. Um okay, we still have all all the options. Wood, do you think wood Victoria Torry: N Marian Miguel: will Victoria Torry: wood Marian Miguel: be a good Victoria Torry: is Marian Miguel: idea? Victoria Torry: I can't n how do you uh I mean you can't keep it really small Marian Miguel: Mm. Victoria Torry: uh you can't make it like thin and Marian Miguel: Right. Victoria Torry: The Arlene Bustos: Mm. Victoria Torry: wood Glenda Price: I Victoria Torry: thing. Glenda Price: can't Victoria Torry: Because Glenda Price: imagine Victoria Torry: you need to Glenda Price: a m Victoria Torry: you Glenda Price: wooden Victoria Torry: n you need Glenda Price: remote Victoria Torry: to put all Glenda Price: control. Victoria Torry: the technology in, so I mean if the case you add the case and Marian Miguel: Yeah if Victoria Torry: it Marian Miguel: if Victoria Torry: it Marian Miguel: it is Victoria Torry: becomes Marian Miguel: really Victoria Torry: a bit Marian Miguel: thin Victoria Torry: bulky wi mm-mm yeah. Marian Miguel: if it Arlene Bustos: Mm. Marian Miguel: is really thin it it's likely to break, it's Victoria Torry: Yeah, Marian Miguel: it's much Victoria Torry: yeah. Marian Miguel: more Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Victoria Torry: Yeah. Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: and given that we're we're looking at more spongy material preferences, I ha would think maybe Victoria Torry: U yeah Arlene Bustos: rubber Victoria Torry: wood is Arlene Bustos: or Victoria Torry: not Arlene Bustos: plastic Victoria Torry: really Arlene Bustos: is more Marian Miguel: Right. Victoria Torry: yeah. Glenda Price: Well it's not very cleanable either, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: That's Glenda Price: do you Victoria Torry: Yeah. Glenda Price: know. Marian Miguel: true. Glenda Price: It's it's not a practical I mean it's it's alright for a table, but for a remote control, you know. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Glenda Price: And splinters and stuff Marian Miguel: Yeah, Glenda Price: and Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: okay wood Glenda Price: It Marian Miguel: is Glenda Price: just Marian Miguel: out. Glenda Price: m doesn't make any sense, I think is Marian Miguel: Right. Victoria Torry: Yeah, Glenda Price: the thing Victoria Torry: yeah, Glenda Price: with wood. Victoria Torry: in the case of remote control not really. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Okay, now for the really interesting stuff, the interface. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Right, so uh the the push-buttons is is our expertise uh in the industry, but uh it seems to be out of trend, you know, nobody seems Glenda Price: You have Marian Miguel: to Victoria Torry: Yeah, Glenda Price: to Victoria Torry: but Marian Miguel: be Glenda Price: have some push-buttons, Victoria Torry: you Glenda Price: don't Victoria Torry: um I think Glenda Price: you? Victoria Torry: for for the channel numb uh channel numbers you still need them, Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Victoria Torry: wouldn't you? Glenda Price: G yeah, Marian Miguel: Mm Glenda Price: yeah. Victoria Torry: Yeah, Marian Miguel: right. Victoria Torry: so for Marian Miguel: Oh, Victoria Torry: channel Marian Miguel: if Victoria Torry: numbers Marian Miguel: if Victoria Torry: but Marian Miguel: we have L_C_D_ displays, that opens up a whole world, you know, if you have an L_C_D_ display, then mm you can select Victoria Torry: But I Marian Miguel: almost Victoria Torry: th Marian Miguel: everything on Victoria Torry: yeah Marian Miguel: the L_C_D_ Victoria Torry: but Marian Miguel: display. Victoria Torry: I think the L_C_D_ Arlene Bustos: Just for Victoria Torry: display Arlene Bustos: fast Victoria Torry: is kind of yeah, it's faster with a m yeah and w if we dis and when we s um discussed that we might like this flipping open thing, then Marian Miguel: Right. Victoria Torry: I mean Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Victoria Torry: y you can use it as a normal remote control, Marian Miguel: Okay. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Victoria Torry: but if you do want to use L_C_D_, then you flip it open, but it's it it's Glenda Price: Yeah. Victoria Torry: more time-consuming. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: I think this is going back to the the graph at the beginning that I made, where, you know, the buttons that people use all the time, you want buttons for them Marian Miguel: Mm right. Victoria Torry: Yeah. Glenda Price: and everything Arlene Bustos: And it Glenda Price: else Arlene Bustos: yeah Glenda Price: menu-driven. Arlene Bustos: L_ L_C_D_. Marian Miguel: So uh in in the buttons we have for the channels also we have options. Do you do we enumerate everything from zero to nine? Or do we have just uh channel plus, channel minus, just Victoria Torry: No, Marian Miguel: to Victoria Torry: no, Marian Miguel: just to scroll? Victoria Torry: I mean mm we we definitely need the the numbers, because Marian Miguel: The numbers. Victoria Torry: it's uh Glenda Price: Yeah. Victoria Torry: otherwise people don't want to flip through all the channels. Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: Do we Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: need Victoria Torry: Um Arlene Bustos: them on as buttons or Marian Miguel: Or Arlene Bustos: do we need them as L_C_D_? Marian Miguel: on the L_C_D_ we can, you Glenda Price: G yeah, Marian Miguel: know Victoria Torry: Yeah, I would say Glenda Price: I would think Victoria Torry: buttons, Glenda Price: buttons, yeah. Victoria Torry: because Arlene Bustos: Buttons. Victoria Torry: it's yeah. Glenda Price: It's Marian Miguel: Okay. Glenda Price: it's the Victoria Torry: I Glenda Price: I think Marian Miguel: So Glenda Price: the thing is, so if Marian Miguel: mm Glenda Price: someone just wants to turn on their T_V_ Arlene Bustos: Mm. Glenda Price: and put on a channel, then Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: it should be easier to Victoria Torry: Yeah. Glenda Price: use than any other remote, and then if someone wants to, you know, change the contrast on their T_V_ and Marian Miguel: Alright. Glenda Price: they should be able to do that and it should be accessible, but, Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: you know, I mean most of the time I mean there's a limit to how much the biggest techno geek can spend fiddling with the T_V_, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: Right. Glenda Price: I think is the the the issue there. Marian Miguel: Okay, so buttons definitely in but oh shall we uh try to draw a prec um Arlene Bustos: I think that's what you guys are gonna do next, Marian Miguel: Uh okay. Arlene Bustos: so if we put down the key Marian Miguel: Okay, Arlene Bustos: um Marian Miguel: okay, Victoria Torry: Yeah. Marian Miguel: so the Arlene Bustos: things Marian Miguel: components. Right, Arlene Bustos: that Marian Miguel: so Arlene Bustos: we want. Marian Miguel: uh what about the the scrolling uh? Victoria Torry: Yeah but n I I'm not completely um completely clear uh I yeah, about the spinning wheel. So I think it it doesn't make sense to have both like a scrolling Glenda Price: E Victoria Torry: and spinning Glenda Price: either Victoria Torry: thing, it's Glenda Price: or Victoria Torry: uh you can al include everything in the spinning if you Arlene Bustos: Just spinning Glenda Price: G Victoria Torry: yeah, Glenda Price: yeah. Arlene Bustos: and not scrolling, Victoria Torry: yeah, Arlene Bustos: I would say. Victoria Torry: in Glenda Price: I Victoria Torry: that Glenda Price: would Victoria Torry: case. Glenda Price: say the s the s the spinning goes at a high speed to th to Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: the scrolling wheel, so you have to decide whether you you know, you want to be going so fast or not. But I mean the the thing with this whole if y you're planning on making it out of rubber, on the basis that it's spongy, Arlene Bustos: Hmm. Glenda Price: then I'm not sure how well a scrolling wheel would work. Marian Miguel: Mm um Arlene Bustos: But if you've got a if Victoria Torry: Ah, but I mean you can Arlene Bustos: if you've got a flipped thing, effectively it's something that's curved on one side and flat on the other side, but you folded Glenda Price: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: it in Glenda Price: but Arlene Bustos: half. Glenda Price: y your spinning wheel tends Arlene Bustos: Th Glenda Price: to go to one side. Arlene Bustos: that would be on one side, uh-huh. Marian Miguel: I'm not sure it'll be a good idea to construct the whole thing out of rubber. Victoria Torry: Yeah, I Marian Miguel: Uh Victoria Torry: um Arlene Bustos: No, Victoria Torry: I think Marian Miguel: i it Victoria Torry: so too, Arlene Bustos: I Victoria Torry: I Arlene Bustos: think Victoria Torry: mean Arlene Bustos: it's Victoria Torry: the Arlene Bustos: just Victoria Torry: case Arlene Bustos: the casing Victoria Torry: would be yeah Glenda Price: You want Arlene Bustos: rubber Victoria Torry: the case Glenda Price: an Arlene Bustos: on Glenda Price: outside Victoria Torry: would Arlene Bustos: the Victoria Torry: be Arlene Bustos: outside. Victoria Torry: rubber Glenda Price: of rubber Victoria Torry: and the Glenda Price: and then Victoria Torry: the buttons, Glenda Price: open it up Marian Miguel: Or Glenda Price: and Marian Miguel: or at Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: the corners, Victoria Torry: rubber buttons, Marian Miguel: edges, Victoria Torry: but then Marian Miguel: just the edges covered by rubber or something Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: like that. Everything else in plastic Victoria Torry: Yeah. Marian Miguel: or even titanium if we want to use it. Glenda Price: Or maybe like interchangeable cases. Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: 'Cause I know like we're going back to iPods again n the whole spinning wheel, but I have like a you know, obviously my iPod's not made of rubber, but then I have a little rubber case that goes over the top of it and Marian Miguel: Right, Glenda Price: I can Arlene Bustos: Mm. Glenda Price: change the colour, Marian Miguel: right. Glenda Price: theoretically, to match my outfit. Marian Miguel: Right, okay, so so that gives us a more trendy look as well. Um Glenda Price: Yeah, I think the spinning wheel is definitely very now. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Yeah, Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: and uh we're going more for the trends than for the usability anyway, Arlene Bustos: That's right, Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: that's what Marian Miguel: right? Arlene Bustos: they're after. Marian Miguel: So I'll rub that out. And uh colours can be provided with the case rather than Um Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: but we still need to te think about the colour of our remote as such, you know, just keep Victoria Torry: Yeah Marian Miguel: it black, Victoria Torry: I think Marian Miguel: or Victoria Torry: we um it was a a requirement that we use our um th the colours of our company, so would it be like yellow, grey and black or something, or Arlene Bustos: I guess. Glenda Price: That doesn't fit in Victoria Torry: Yeah, does Glenda Price: with the whole vegetable theme though. Arlene Bustos: Bananas. Victoria Torry: Yeah. Banana's yellow, yeah, Glenda Price: Yeah, Victoria Torry: definitely. Glenda Price: but I mean do you think we could incorporate the colours of the company into the buttons and then make the colour of the main remote the colour like vegetable colours, do you know? So Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: you could have like I mean I suppose vegetable colours would be orange and green Arlene Bustos: Green. Glenda Price: and some reds and um maybe Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: purple and that and then you'd pick the buttons in company colours to to match Marian Miguel: Mm. Glenda Price: with it. Marian Miguel: Okay. Um okay, if you g go over to uh the integrated circuits. Uh since we're having L_C_D_s there there's no way that we're Arlene Bustos: yeah. Marian Miguel: will be able to um what we do need to consider, however, is that the price is going up for the ever every such thing that we are considering, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: but since L_C_D_s seems to be uh a definite yes, so Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: it seems to be one area where we would want to spend. So I'll rub off the other Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: two. Glenda Price: So are we discounting solar energy because rubber's gonna be used in there somewhere or Arlene Bustos: That was the Marian Miguel: Oh is oh the constraint was uh Arlene Bustos: We Glenda Price: If Arlene Bustos: can't have Marian Miguel: yeah. Glenda Price: solar panels Arlene Bustos: solar Glenda Price: with Arlene Bustos: panels Glenda Price: the rubber. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: with rubber, Marian Miguel: So Arlene Bustos: so. Glenda Price: Yeah, okay, so we lose that I think. Arlene Bustos: Shall we go for if we're going for rubber, we think uh on as our case, Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: and then Victoria Torry: And the buttons as well, I think. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Victoria Torry: Yeah. Marian Miguel: I think Arlene Bustos: We've Marian Miguel: uh Arlene Bustos: got five more minutes. Marian Miguel: we'll have uh uh using the simple battery will be a safer option as compared to the kinetic energy one, I Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: mean, a although it does seem uh interesting. Glenda Price: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: But it does not hold any advantages as Arlene Bustos: Yeah, Marian Miguel: such Glenda Price: It's Marian Miguel: for Glenda Price: just a Marian Miguel: a Glenda Price: gimmick. Arlene Bustos: mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: yeah. Okay. Uh okay, so r we understand this better now that uh the the speaker is for the feedback, right? Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: It it says uh the things that you type in or something like that, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: so Arlene Bustos: I think if we can if we can include them at not too much extra Marian Miguel: Ye Arlene Bustos: cost, Marian Miguel: yeah, Arlene Bustos: then I'd put them in, Marian Miguel: we Arlene Bustos: but if Marian Miguel: we Arlene Bustos: it's Marian Miguel: don't have too much information about it, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: um Victoria Torry: Yeah, but it it I think it should be quite cheap because it's from our own Arlene Bustos: It's Victoria Torry: company, Arlene Bustos: from the company, Victoria Torry: yeah. Marian Miguel: Yeah, okay, Arlene Bustos: so Marian Miguel: so so th this is in as well then, the Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: sample speaker. Arlene Bustos: Okay. Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: And the case is curved on one side, but then Marian Miguel: Flat Arlene Bustos: flat Marian Miguel: on the top. Arlene Bustos: flat, so it's flipped into Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: each other. Marian Miguel: Okay. Arlene Bustos: Can I pull the Glenda Price: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: thing Glenda Price: sure Arlene Bustos: out the back of your Glenda Price: j Arlene Bustos: computer? Just so we can Glenda Price: Sorry, do you want Glenda Price to Arlene Bustos: Nothing, it's right, I'm just There we go. Glenda Price: What does um I_C_S_ mean? Marian Miguel: I_C_s? Uh integrated circuits. Glenda Price: Okay, cool. So it's advanced integrated circuits? Marian Miguel: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: Uh oh now I've gone too far. Marian Miguel: Uh um we we're definitely going in for voice recognition as well as Victoria Torry: Yeah. Marian Miguel: L_C_D_s, Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Marian Miguel: mm. Arlene Bustos: We're on our way. Arlene Bustos: Okay. So we've basically worked out that we're going with a simple battery, the advanced chip Marian Miguel: Right. Arlene Bustos: and a curved on one side case which is folded in on itself, Marian Miguel: Yep. Arlene Bustos: um made out of rubber and the buttons are also rubber. We're having push-buttons on the outside and then on the inside an L_C_D_ with spinning wheel, and we're incorporating voice recognition. That's our overall concept, Victoria Torry: Um Arlene Bustos: and it's gonna look sort of vegetable, and be in bright vegetable colours. Victoria Torry: Uh-huh. So w w would with have the spinning wheel inside with the L_C_D_, or would it be on the outer Arlene Bustos: I think Glenda Price: Imagine Arlene Bustos: it's on Glenda Price: it would Arlene Bustos: the Glenda Price: be inside. Victoria Torry: Okay. Glenda Price: So um actually that could Marian Miguel: Mm. Glenda Price: like really cut down your thing, so you've got your outside, which is like minimalist, Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: and then you open it up and Victoria Torry: Yeah, Glenda Price: you've got Victoria Torry: okay. Glenda Price: a screen and a spinning wheel, which you can incorporate buttons into. Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: Mm-mm. Glenda Price: Um so you've Arlene Bustos: Yeah. Glenda Price: still not got like a lot of stuff in the Arlene Bustos: On the Glenda Price: You've maybe got, you know like if you're modelling on iPod you've got five buttons and Arlene Bustos: Mm-hmm. Glenda Price: a wheel, and four of the buttons are in the wheel, and the other one's the little bit inside the Arlene Bustos: In Glenda Price: wheel, Arlene Bustos: the centre, yeah, Glenda Price: yeah. Victoria Torry: Mm yeah. Arlene Bustos: sure. Okay, so now we've got thirty minutes before our next meeting. In the meantime, Marian Miguel over here is gonna work on the look and feel design, Marian Miguel: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: which I'll presume he'll work out what that means. Um Victoria Torry will work on the user interface design and Glenda Price is going to work on product evaluation. And as well as that, the two designers are going to work together on our prototype following those instructions that we've just come up with using modelling clay and you will get extra Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: instructions from your Marian Miguel: Cool. Arlene Bustos: personal coach. Is that all okay? And anyone Victoria Torry: Yeah. Arlene Bustos: who hasn't put their their presentation in the project documents Marian Miguel: Yeah, Arlene Bustos: folder, Marian Miguel: okay. Arlene Bustos: it would be good just so in case Victoria Torry: Mm-hmm. Arlene Bustos: we have to refer to it. Glenda Price: Cool, I'm gonna go and sit on my own. Arlene Bustos: Y ah nobody wants to talk to you. Glenda Price: I know, Arlene Bustos: Unplug yourself. Glenda Price: I'm hated. Victoria Torry: Hmm. Glenda Price: I've got a bit tangled up in all this. Victoria Torry: So but shall I move away first or shall I stay here with Arlene Bustos: I dunno, maybe Victoria Torry: we need to Arlene Bustos: I would car

Arlene Bustos opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Marian Miguel begins presenting, first describing the insides of a remote control. He lists the options for types of batteries, shapes for the remote case, materials to use, and functions to include such as push buttons, scroll wheels, and LCD screens. He then talks about the type of chip certain features would require. The interface specialist begins presenting, first defining user interface and then showing some examples of remotes. She mentions that many existing remotes do not have a nice appearance, and states her preference for a remote that is small and simple and contains a scrolling wheel. Glenda Price gives her presentation about user requirements and current trends. She shares that fruits and vegetables are popular, meaning curviness and assymetry are in. The group decides to use LCD screens to give the remote style. They discuss what material should be used, talk about how the surface of the case should look, and plan out the general user interface. After they make some decisions about the remote, Arlene Bustos closes the meeting by telling them what their tasks will be until the next meeting.

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Jane Riendeau: Mm-hmm? Jane Riendeau: Okay. Jane Riendeau: Ooh. Yolanda Wessells: So we're 'kay? On the or No. I dunno where to put it 'cause the Okay. Could you s take it off? Hazel Brown: Is that alright? or Okay. Yolanda Wessells: Okay. Hazel Brown: Keeps coming off. 'S fiddly. Jane Riendeau: Hmm. Hazel Brown: Right. Jane Riendeau: How we sta wa how do we start Does anybody know? Hazel Brown: Oh, another one. Jane Riendeau: So that's this Oh okay, right. Yolanda Wessells: Are we free to take notes uh Okay. Jane Riendeau: Uh. Jane Riendeau: Hmm. Okay, just hang on a second everybody. I haven't actually looked at this yet. Hazel Brown: Ah. Jane Riendeau: um Hazel Brown: Very nice. Jane Riendeau: I haven't looked at it, but let's just start it off and we'll see what happens. If you're all ready. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: So is the agenda? Opening, acquaintance, tool training and project plan then closing. Project aim is a new remote control. It's original, uh trendy and it's user-friendly. Hazel Brown: 'Kay. Jane Riendeau: Project method, functional design, individual work, another meeting, conceptual design, individual work, and a meeting of details design, individual work and a meeting. Tool training. Try out the whiteboard, every participant should draw their favourite animal and sum up their favourite characteristics of that animal. Hazel Brown: Okay. Jane Riendeau: Um. Uh Miss Industrial Designer, would you like to Yolanda Wessells: Okay. Jane Riendeau: go first? Yolanda Wessells: So are we supposed to bring the little things for the Jane Riendeau: Yeah, why don't you just c, I think just clip on clip do you have a belt? Hazel Brown: Clip. Yolanda Wessells: Mm. Jane Riendeau: Or put 'em in your pocket, Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: yeah. Yolanda Wessells: okay. So my favourite animal Jane Riendeau: Yeah, what's your favourite animal? Yolanda Wessells: 'Kay um Hazel Brown: Ah. Jane Riendeau: Is it rude? Hazel Brown: It's an elephant. Jane Riendeau: That's a very good elephant. Adrienne Leon: The back end of an elephant. Hazel Brown: Oh my gosh, I'm never gonna be able to draw that well. Jane Riendeau: 'Kay, and you want to write up on there, it says you've gotta sum up your f f your favourite characteristics of that animal. Yolanda Wessells: Um okay, it's big, it's got a great memory. Hazel Brown: Does it? Oh. Yolanda Wessells: Supposed to have a great memory, Jane Riendeau: Mm. Hazel Brown: Mm. Yolanda Wessells: And uh dunno know why but looks like nice to Hazel Brown. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Yolanda Wessells: Nice animal. Jane Riendeau: Wonderful, well done. Do you want to use the wipe the m the Yolanda Wessells: Okay. Jane Riendeau: wiper and wipe it off? And Mister aesthetics designer do you wanna Adrienne Leon: Aesthetic Jane Riendeau: go next? Adrienne Leon: yep, Hazel Brown: I have no Adrienne Leon: sure. Hazel Brown: idea what my favourite animal is. Adrienne Leon: 'Kay, my favourite animal, uh let's see. Hazel Brown: Oh. It's Adrienne Leon: Dunno if any of you have seen Napoleon Dynamite before. It's a liger, Jane Riendeau: No. Hazel Brown: A what? Adrienne Leon: a combination of a lion and tiger. Hazel Brown: Alright. Adrienne Leon: Have Hazel Brown: How. Adrienne Leon: you not seen Napoleon Dynamite? Jane Riendeau: No. Yolanda Wessells: No. Hazel Brown: No. Adrienne Leon: Oh it's a hilarious movie. You have to see it. And and it's best characteristic is it's pretty much the awesomest animal. But you have to see the movie to fully appreciate it. Jane Riendeau: Okay, well done. Hazel Brown: Great. Hazel Brown? Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Miss mar Miss Marketing? Hazel Brown: Okay. quite sure how this is gonna work. Cool. Uh well I'll try my best to draw. Hazel Brown: Can I just draw the face? Jane Riendeau: Um yeah, I think you can just draw the face, but then you'll have to describe in writing how the rest of it looks. Hazel Brown: Ooh. It's a cat. Jane Riendeau: That's a very pr pretty cat. Hazel Brown: Which also has what? A big fat body and big and a long tail. Jane Riendeau: Okay, do y do you wanna do some write you wanna just write some words about it? Hazel Brown: Why? Because um cuddly. And usually cats are very friendly. Usually. And they're healing as well. They heal. And they can feel when a human's Jane Riendeau: Wow, Hazel Brown: got problems so Jane Riendeau: so they're kinda spiritual. Hazel Brown: So, that's why I like cats. Jane Riendeau: Well done. Hazel Brown: There we are, that's Hazel Brown. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Hazel Brown: Mm. Jane Riendeau: Um, I don't actually have a favourite animal, but for the for th for this meeting I'll s draw a little Hazel Brown: Mm-hmm. Jane Riendeau: Uh. I honestly can't draw for toffee. Uh. Yolanda Wessells: Really? Oh Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Yolanda Wessells: that's a Jane Riendeau: no Adrienne Leon: A prairie dog? Jane Riendeau: no uh Adrienne Leon: Oh a squirrel? Jane Riendeau: That's exactly what it is. Uh not a very good one Yolanda Wessells: Not bad I would say. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, that's pretty good. Jane Riendeau: Okay, well, you got it's a s It's a squirrel, and I like them, because they're cute and stupid. Yolanda Wessells: Very good. Hazel Brown: Ah. Adrienne Leon: Alright. Jane Riendeau: Right. Okay, so, I guess that was the test to see if this equipment is all working. Mm. Let's move on to the next page. Okay, project finance, selling price twenty five Euros, profit aim fifty million Euros. Hazel Brown: Market range internationally sold. Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Production cost, ah right it's gotta be Hazel Brown: Ah right Jane Riendeau: can't Hazel Brown: okay. Jane Riendeau: cost any more than twelve fifty to make. experience with with remote control, so talk about who who's used what. Any ideas? Stuff like that. Next meeting starts in thirty minutes. At quarter to twelve. Adrienne Leon: So I think before we close uh, we are expected I mean the last slide wanted us to maybe discuss longer what our what our ideas where. I mean if you wanna go back to the last slide. Uh Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Hazel Brown: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: S Yeah, I think we're I mean before we close the meeting, we're supposed to come up with some ideas for Jane Riendeau: Oh k so we're actually supposed to be doing this discussion like right now are we Hazel Brown: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: or Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Yolanda Wessells: Mm. Jane Riendeau: oh okay. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: I thought this was just t giving us instructions for the re to do next, Adrienne Leon: Yeah, Jane Riendeau: but Adrienne Leon: I think this is just the preliminary, get some rough ideas for what our experiences with remote controls have been and and what we would roughly what we would incorporate into a new one maybe. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Right, who's got experiences with remote controls then? Pretty much everybody. Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, I think we've all got Hazel Brown: Uh. Jane Riendeau: Um. Yolanda Wessells: Is this a T_V_ one we are supposed to make? Hazel Brown: Yeah. Yeah it's a T_V_ remote control. Yolanda Wessells: Okay. Jane Riendeau: 'Kay Hazel Brown: Well. Jane Riendeau: um. Yolanda Wessells: T Hazel Brown: A new remote control for T_V_. What would I like? Jane Riendeau: W what Hazel Brown: Um. Jane Riendeau: You want it big do you want it small. Hazel Brown: Medium. Jane Riendeau: Are we are we going for like like telephones are going little teeny tiny things or we are going for something that's Adrienne Leon: Mm. Jane Riendeau: that's big and Adrienne Leon: Yeah it seems like there's like there's sort of a tension between two ideas, I mean, you want you want one remote that maybe can work uh all all of the functions of T_V_ and if you have whatever associated with T_V_ the D_V_D_ player, or Jane Riendeau: Video Adrienne Leon: something like that, Jane Riendeau: and ts hi-fi Adrienne Leon: but like at Jane Riendeau: and Adrienne Leon: the Jane Riendeau: stuff. Adrienne Leon: same time you don't wanna really busy remote with a thousand buttons on it or something. Jane Riendeau: Maybe you Adrienne Leon: Mm. Jane Riendeau: yeah now th that's the other thing is it's gotta be cheap. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: 'Cause I I I mean I was thinking something that's got different like maybe a a an L_C_D_ display on it that's got different pages for different devices, Hazel Brown: Mm. Jane Riendeau: but that would p that would probably be quite expensive. Yolanda Wessells: But how do we know how much uh, I mean, how much do we have per how Hazel Brown: Twelve Yolanda Wessells: much? Hazel Brown: fifty. Yolanda Wessells: Twelve Adrienne Leon: It Yolanda Wessells: fifty. Adrienne Leon: g can't be more Hazel Brown: Each. Adrienne Leon: than twelve fifty per unit. Jane Riendeau: Per unit, yeah. Adrienne Leon: Cost. Yolanda Wessells: So do we have to be realistic within the budget or Jane Riendeau: Well Yolanda Wessells: Close Jane Riendeau: at the Hazel Brown: Guess Jane Riendeau: moment Yolanda Wessells: pr I don't Jane Riendeau: we could, Yolanda Wessells: know Jane Riendeau: wa Yolanda Wessells: how Jane Riendeau: I Yolanda Wessells: much Jane Riendeau: mean we Yolanda Wessells: it Jane Riendeau: 'cause Yolanda Wessells: would Jane Riendeau: we Yolanda Wessells: cost. Jane Riendeau: this Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: is what we th what we're doing at the moment is just saying what what we'd like, and then after we after we've found out what we can like, some different ideas, we can then go and do the research to find out if these any of these ideas are feasible Yolanda Wessells: Right. Jane Riendeau: or not. So would be nice to have something that that controls lots of different things. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: Um. Hazel Brown: Couldn't we have like one that comes out? Like so you have one in like Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Hazel Brown: mm it doesn't have to be really thick. I mean remote controls can be thin bits. And then you have one for your D_V_D_ and you sort of slide it out, and then you have another one, you slide it out. Jane Riendeau: 'Kay. Hazel Brown: have slides. And then it all comes compact Jane Riendeau: Okay, that's. Hazel Brown: into one. So it's not you actually just putting three or four different remotes together but making them thinner, and um into one basically. Jane Riendeau: Th that's an idea. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Hazel Brown: So you just flip them out. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Yolanda Wessells: Um have uh one very complicated one on one side with all the D_V_D_ and V_C_R_ access and stuff, and then on the other side o one uh a remote control that would be very very simple with just the channel, program plus and minus, and the just the mute button, for example. I can real keep it really really simple on one side and the other side be very complicated. Jane Riendeau: One side for kids, one side for adults. Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: I'm not sure Yolanda Wessells: Or grandma Adrienne Leon: if that's like Yolanda Wessells: as well, you know it's like what is Adrienne Leon: I'm Yolanda Wessells: the Adrienne Leon: not Yolanda Wessells: mute Adrienne Leon: sure if Yolanda Wessells: button. Adrienne Leon: it's a good idea to have a two sided remote though, 'cause it would be very hard to use in the way that you Yolanda Wessells: No, but you Adrienne Leon: mani Yolanda Wessells: would slide Adrienne Leon: manipulate Yolanda Wessells: it Adrienne Leon: it. Yolanda Wessells: into uh someth like something on the back would hold like you wouldn't Adrienne Leon: Oh. Yolanda Wessells: be able to press the buttons, Adrienne Leon: Oh okay. Jane Riendeau: Like Yolanda Wessells: but Jane Riendeau: it or Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: something like a flip telephone, something like that maybe. Adrienne Leon: Okay. Hazel Brown: That would be cool. I was thinking Jane Riendeau: F flip Hazel Brown: that Jane Riendeau: it open Hazel Brown: like a Jane Riendeau: and you've Hazel Brown: flip. Jane Riendeau: got all the buttons, or you flip it closed and you've just got the basic buttons on the outside maybe. Adrienne Leon: Mm-hmm. Jane Riendeau: Um, oh we've got five minutes left. Yolanda Wessells: Start breaking up. Hazel Brown: Okay. Jane Riendeau: But okay. Hazel Brown: Um. Jane Riendeau: Well we've got a k we've got a few ideas there. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, we should uh I guess by the end of this meeting we should have at least a a rough conception you know stage one was technical functions design, what effect the apparatus should have. Okay. Um so I mean we still have time in our next meeting to come up with the actual concept for the user interface, but the the functions that we're sure that we want are that it can control the T_V_, but also devices connected to the to the T_V_, I mean, Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: be able to operate D_V_D_ players, things like that. Jane Riendeau: I have got I think we should also have a back-up plan of I 'cause I I I just think that it might be expensive to make something that I mean we don't, we haven't been told it has to be something that will control everything. Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: Okay. Right. Jane Riendeau: What do you reckon? Adrienne Leon: Yeah, I mean. Jane Riendeau: See 'cause, I'm just thinking bearing in mind th we've gotta we have to have something that's cheap to make. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, that's true, maybe we should just concentrate on having a a good T_V_ remote, and have it be um Jane Riendeau: I think we'll be able to come up with ideas and stuff a lot quicker. Adrienne Leon: have it be like ergonomic Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: so it's comfortable to use, uh simple to use, and looks decent Jane Riendeau: May Adrienne Leon: and Jane Riendeau: w you Hazel Brown: But what'll Jane Riendeau: know, maybe Hazel Brown: make Jane Riendeau: even Hazel Brown: it what'll make it interesting for people to buy though? Jane Riendeau: Or Hazel Brown: I mean Jane Riendeau: maybe Hazel Brown: if it's Jane Riendeau: even Hazel Brown: if Jane Riendeau: so Hazel Brown: it's Jane Riendeau: something Hazel Brown: just like Jane Riendeau: that's for disabled people or so people that uh b don't see very well or big buttons for touchy buttons for Adrienne Leon: Sorta find a niche for our remote, like market it to a certain Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: kind Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: of p kind of people, certain Jane Riendeau: Or just Adrienne Leon: certain demographic Jane Riendeau: one that looks really fucking cool. Hazel Brown: Mm-hmm. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, no Yolanda Wessells: Could Adrienne Leon: I think Yolanda Wessells: be Adrienne Leon: you're Yolanda Wessells: really Adrienne Leon: right. Yolanda Wessells: light or, I dunno, something special. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, rathe rather than focus on Jane Riendeau: Otherwise Adrienne Leon: Y Jane Riendeau: we'll be we'll be here all day talking about do this let's do Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: that n I think we sh I think Yolanda Wessells: Yeah, Jane Riendeau: we Yolanda Wessells: 'cause Jane Riendeau: should Yolanda Wessells: at the end of the day if it says just T_V_ remote, doesn't say com combination Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Yolanda Wessells: with all all the r Jane Riendeau: I mean obviously everyone we're uh you know uh sounds like we're all a bit sort of gadget heads and we like things that do everything at once, but you know, that's Adrienne Leon: Remotes spinning out from other remotes and Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Hazel Brown: Mm. Adrienne Leon: having little nested remotes inside. Jane Riendeau: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I mean I'd like one that makes tea as well, but that's not gonna happen. Hazel Brown: I think a flip up thing, 'cause you always have this problem of like if it's on this well I did anyway, like we had five or six remotes and they would be lying on the c on the coach, and you'd come and sit down and ooh, the telephone's the television switched on or something. So maybe something that like does have a lid or closes, so you don't accidentally press a button or Jane Riendeau: Okay, like Hazel Brown: record Jane Riendeau: a lock Hazel Brown: button Jane Riendeau: f like Hazel Brown: for something. Jane Riendeau: a lock functs function on it like you have on your telephones, Hazel Brown: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: yeah. Hazel Brown: But make it like really snazzy and cool people will want it. So make it Yeah. Jane Riendeau: Yeah, it's gotta be sellable. Hazel Brown: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Adrienne Leon: Yeah, that's true what you were saying, I mean it doesn't have to have a flip function, it can just have a lock function, so Hazel Brown: Mm. Adrienne Leon: that it's Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Yolanda Wessells: Mm. Adrienne Leon: not uh not usable when you don't want it to be usable. Hazel Brown: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Hazel Brown: And even for kids as well. It's um it's safer for them, I guess. Like they don't flick onto channels and all that sl flick onto. Jane Riendeau: No porn channel for children. Yolanda Wessells: Okay. Jane Riendeau: Okay. Um alright, so we've got some ideas, we've got um Adrienne Leon: I guess that's Jane Riendeau: Let's move on. Adrienne Leon: good good for now. Hazel Brown: Mm. Jane Riendeau: Oops, let's close that. Next meeting, uh Hazel Brown: W Jane Riendeau: okay. Hazel Brown: What does I_D_V_I_D_N_M_E_ stand for? Jane Riendeau: Industrial Designer Hazel Brown: Ah Jane Riendeau: um Hazel Brown: ri okay. Jane Riendeau: which is Hazel Brown: these are requirement specification. Yolanda Wessells: That's Jane Riendeau: Um. Hazel Brown: And I'm marketing. Yolanda Wessells: Mm. Jane Riendeau: Yeah, there you go. So User Interface Designer, that's Adrienne Leon: That's Hazel Brown. Jane Riendeau: that's Adrienne Leon: Okay. Jane Riendeau: that's you, so you gotta you go, you're you're gonna be the one that's working out what what buttons Adrienne Leon: Right. Jane Riendeau: we need. Adrienne Leon: Right. Jane Riendeau: Um. Industrial Designer, you are the one, you know, you're gonna be working out kind of box it goes in, I guess so, um whether it's what goes into the box, somehow. Yolanda Wessells: Mm. Har how it works an Jane Riendeau: And in marketing Hazel Brown: These Yolanda Wessells: Bu Hazel Brown: are requirement specification. Jane Riendeau: User requirements specifications. Hazel Brown: So what the user requires Jane Riendeau: Yeah, Yolanda Wessells: Do you think Hazel Brown: in Jane Riendeau: what Hazel Brown: a remote. Yolanda Wessells: our two kind of overlap, Jane Riendeau: Right, okay, yeah. Yolanda Wessells: because Adrienne Leon: Yeah, it does Hazel Brown: I Adrienne Leon: seem Hazel Brown: guess Adrienne Leon: like our Hazel Brown: that's Jane Riendeau: You Adrienne Leon: our Jane Riendeau: two Hazel Brown: what Adrienne Leon: responsibilities Hazel Brown: it says. Adrienne Leon: have Jane Riendeau: you two are gonna Adrienne Leon: some Jane Riendeau: be Adrienne Leon: overlap. Jane Riendeau: just, I think, you just double up, you know, Yolanda Wessells: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: you working Adrienne Leon: Yeah. Jane Riendeau: together. You're the one that's gotta go and find out do th do the research, see what people want in a remote, what buttons are used more often, and s Hazel Brown: Mm. Jane Riendeau: stuff like that. Oh, we've been warned to finish the meeting now. Okay. Okay everyone, well done. Good meeting. Adrienne Leon: Alright, see you in thirty minutes. Jane Riendeau: Yeah. Hazel Brown: So, do we take these off? Yolanda Wessells: I don't

Jane Riendeau introduced the upcoming project to the team and then the team members participated in an exercise in which they drew their favorite animals and discussed why they liked those particular animals. Jane Riendeau discussed the project finances and the team engaged in a brainstorming session about various features to consider in designing a remote. Jane Riendeau then further discussed the roles of the team members.

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Patti Weaver: Oh right okay. I cover myself up. Deloris Begum: I feel like Madonna with one of these on I. said I feel like Madonna with one of these on. Patti Weaver: I've always wanted one of these, I really have. Where do you buy 'em from? They're. Deloris Begum: Right. Hello everybody. Joyce Love: Hello. Deloris Begum: Back again for another wonderful meeting. Is uh everyone ready? Joyce Love: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Yeah. Betty Morgan: Almost. Deloris Begum: Okay, we c we can hold on for a minute. Patti Weaver: Oh my gosh. Deloris Begum: I figured with the spam thing, if you can't beat it, join in. Joyce Love: That's the kind of spam that everybody likes to receive. Betty Morgan: Mm 'kay. Deloris Begum: Are you ready? Deloris Begum: Okay, right, well, I take it that you are all ready now. Um alright first off we'll just uh recap our last meeting. Um which was we got together just to basically decide on well to talk about what it is that we were actually uh supposed to be doing, and who we all are and stuff like that, mm get bit more of an idea together of what's going on. Um what we are gonna talk about in this meeting is um now that we know what it is that we are doing, now we know that it's a T_V_ remote and stuff and you guys have just been off doing some some uh R_ and D_ for that, that's research and development for Patti Weaver: Mm-hmm. Deloris Begum: those that haven't heard that before, see I'm learning all sorts of new technologi terms in technology today. Um yeah, we're gonna hear your uh th three little presentations, whether Joyce Love: Hmm. Deloris Begum: they be on computer or on the whiteboard or whatever you want. Joyce Love: Do you have any preference uh of order? Deloris Begum: Um I'd like to um hear o I'd like to hear who's g who's on the um from from uh Catherine actually first. I want what I'd like to hear about is uh if we've finally decided on um what Patti Weaver: Batteries. Deloris Begum: sort of energy we're gonna be using and Joyce Love: I think she is still finishing her. Betty Morgan: No no no no, it's fine I'm just preparing. Deloris Begum: It's just that yeah, let's let's hear from you first. Joyce Love: Hmm. Betty Morgan: Okay. Where is that Joyce Love: Okay, Betty Morgan: thing? Joyce Love: it's uh Patti Weaver: It's here. Betty Morgan: Oh sorry, couldn't see. Would that work? Deloris Begum: Get yourself in position. Patti Weaver: Ah. Betty Morgan: Okay, so that's Patti Weaver again. Um so um for the energy sources we can have a basic battery, a hand dynamo which is which was used uh in the fifties for torches, if you remember that kind of which wouldn't Deloris Begum: I don't Betty Morgan: be v Deloris Begum: think any of us remember Betty Morgan: wouldn't Deloris Begum: the fifties. Betty Morgan: be v Joyce Love: Is it like Betty Morgan: v Joyce Love: a crank Betty Morgan: yeah, Joyce Love: thing Betty Morgan: yeah. Joyce Love: or something. Betty Morgan: It wouldn't be very fancy. You can have a kinetic provision of energy, which is used on some watches these days. So if you have just a bit of gentle movement that it will give Patti Weaver: Mm. Betty Morgan: it the energy to work. Or you can use solar cells, but I'm not sure about that indoors, really, but Joyce Love: Well, there's sometimes combinations, I mean, like calculators Betty Morgan: Yeah. Joyce Love: do combinations of battery with but also using some solar power. Deloris Begum: Do Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: sol solar panel things, do they have to work from the sun or can they work from a light bulb? Betty Morgan: I dunno Deloris Begum: Does anybody Betty Morgan: actually. Deloris Begum: know? Joyce Love: Uh I think, it has to be on the on the solar energy, but I know. Betty Morgan: I dunno. Um. Think the the uh Deloris Begum: Okay. Betty Morgan: what would cost the less would be the basic battery, really. Patti Weaver: Mm. Betty Morgan: And uh if we want something fancier, I think the kinetic provision of energy could be nice, but I don't know if it's worth the cost. So we've got to discuss that. Deloris Begum: Mm. Okay, jolly good. Betty Morgan: For the case of the remotes itself, um they can be a general case, which is just a flat one. You can have uh a curved one or a double curved one, if you know what I mean, so Deloris Begum: What's a double curved one? Betty Morgan: You know, kind of more ergonomic, that kind of suits the palm of your hand, that kind of thing. So Deloris Begum: Okay. Betty Morgan: Um then the case material itself, so it can be uh uh either plastic or latex, uh rubber, wood, or titanium. And th for each of them you have uh cases where for example titanium, you can't use it for if you if we're choosing a double curved case, we can't choose titanium. And if we are choosing um solar cells then we can't choose latex for the case material, so we just have to take that into account. But if we're choosing just the flat case then we can go for anything. And I think we discussed earlier on the R_ S_ I_ problem thing, so we could uh Deloris Begum: So that might be an idea of using Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: the rubber, but then it should, you know Joyce Love: Let's have a squeezable remote. Deloris Begum: yeah. Betty Morgan: Yeah. And also it doesn't break as easily maybe, I dunno Deloris Begum: when a T_V_ programme's got one watching the match and your team's just lost, you can fuzz it across the room and it'll bounce off the wall back Patti Weaver: Yeah. Deloris Begum: at you. Yeah, I like that idea. Patti Weaver: Mm. Betty Morgan: So rubber would be Okay. Patti Weaver: I think rubber's Deloris Begum: Rubber, we're all we're all going we're all liking that idea? You think you can market Patti Weaver: But after Deloris Begum: that? Patti Weaver: my after my fashion thing, I think you'll realise that rubber is more Betty Morgan: Uh Deloris Begum: Ooh, we Betty Morgan: s Deloris Begum: like rubber, ooh. Patti Weaver: People. Betty Morgan: so if d okay. And then there are the push-buttons, so you can have basic push-buttons or a scroll-wheels, like you have on a mouse, um or you could have um L_C_D_, which gives you a display. Um scroll buttons, as well. Deloris Begum: Uh-huh. Betty Morgan: So if you use a rubber double curved case, you must use rubber push-buttons. So if we're going for rubber then we have to decide for the case. Um and if we choose double curved then we have to go for rubber push-buttons. So it's Deloris Begum: Well, Betty Morgan: a constraint. Deloris Begum: we're gonna go with I think we've decided that it's gonna be a rubber case Betty Morgan: Yeah, but Deloris Begum: so Betty Morgan: is it a double curved one or not? If it's not a double curved, then we've got the choice for the push-buttons, if it's a double curve, we've gotta go for rubber push-buttons. If that makes sense. Deloris Begum: push buttons instead of the wheel? Betty Morgan: Yeah. Joyce Love: If it's rubber, isn't it malleable anyway, it doesn't matter if it's double I mean isn't a rubber case, mean it's completely flexed, I mean, it it flexes to whatever they want it to? Mean so what's the difference between a normal rubber case and a rubble doub double rubber double curved Betty Morgan: No, but Deloris Begum: rubble Joyce Love: case? Deloris Begum: double double. Betty Morgan: na le you see, you've got, okay, the energy that's Deloris Begum: I'll have Betty Morgan: one Deloris Begum: a Big Betty Morgan: thing, Deloris Begum: Mac, please. Betty Morgan: then you have the case is uh, whether it's flat or curved. And that's we don't care if it's rub rubber or not, but then we've decided that we going for rubber for the case material. So if we've chosen rub rubber and if now we have the choice for the case whether it's flat, single curved or double curved. And I'm just saying if it if we choose it to be double curved then we need to go I dunno why, but we need to go for uh rubber push-buttons. Joyce Love: Okay. Betty Morgan: So, either I dunno we just need to decide on the Deloris Begum: Let's have Betty Morgan: on Deloris Begum: rubber Betty Morgan: the case. Deloris Begum: push buttons, hey. Joyce Love: Okay. Go rubber. Go Betty Morgan: Let's Joyce Love: rubber Betty Morgan: go crazy. Joyce Love: the whole way. Betty Morgan: And then, do I have a last slide? Yes, I do. Um so the push-buttons themselves they can be just simple or they can be so that's just the electronics between the but behind the push-buttons. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Betty Morgan: Um and the price that go with it with it, so the simple push-buttons are gonna be the cheapest. Uh if we get a scroll-wheel, that's a higher price range. If we get an advanced chip which is um used for the L_C_D_, the display thing, then that's even more expensive. Deloris Begum: Simple, yeah. Chip on print. It's a bit. Deloris Begum: Okay, uh what I'm not understanding here Betty Morgan: Mm. Deloris Begum: is uh, okay, advanced chip on print, which I presume is like one P_C_B_ and that's got all the electronics on one board Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: including the um Betty Morgan: The infra-red. Deloris Begum: infra-red sender? Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: Right. Um what a what alternatives do we have to that? Y um what alternatives do we have to the chip Betty Morgan: Well, Deloris Begum: on Betty Morgan: if Deloris Begum: print? Betty Morgan: if it's not chip on print then, I guess, you get different chip components, and you build them separately and doesn't include the infra-red. It's less expensive mm Deloris Begum: so it sounds Betty Morgan: Technically speaking, it's not as advanced, but it does the job, too. Deloris Begum: So, why would we not go for that? If it's something Betty Morgan: Fo Deloris Begum: that's inside the the unit. Betty Morgan: It doesn't, Deloris Begum: I it Betty Morgan: yeah, yeah, yeah. Deloris Begum: doesn't affects whether the customer's Betty Morgan: Totally. Deloris Begum: gonna buy it or not. Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: Um Betty Morgan: So let's not Deloris Begum: we Betty Morgan: go Deloris Begum: wanna Betty Morgan: for Deloris Begum: go Betty Morgan: the Deloris Begum: for an i i all so long as it works, Betty Morgan: Yeah, yeah. Deloris Begum: you Betty Morgan: I Deloris Begum: know. Betty Morgan: agree. Deloris Begum: So let's not let's uh not bother with the chip on print. Betty Morgan: So it's either um the scroll-wheel or the push-buttons. Deloris Begum: Yeah. S yeah, push buttons. Patti Weaver: What about the just Joyce Love: I Patti Weaver: developed Joyce Love: think push-buttons Patti Weaver: uh sample Joyce Love: is Patti Weaver: sensor? Deloris Begum: What about what? Patti Weaver: G there, the sample sensor, sample Betty Morgan: Well Patti Weaver: speaker thing. Deloris Begum: Well, what do we need a speaker for in a remote control unit? Patti Weaver: Mm, I dunno. Be cool. Betty Morgan: It'd Patti Weaver: Channel Betty Morgan: be it'd Joyce Love: Yeah. Betty Morgan: be cool, Patti Weaver: two. Betty Morgan: but they are saying they've just developed it, I'm just guessing. But it's gonna Deloris Begum: S Betty Morgan: be the most expensive option, probably and Joyce Love: Th the the speech recognition um option is it doesn't seem really very promising for us Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: uh, 'cause Deloris Begum: It's not Joyce Love: uh Deloris Begum: something that we wanna t go into with this Joyce Love: The Deloris Begum: product. Joyce Love: yeah the example that they're already using it for is with the coffee machine, where, basically, you can program a sample wi um That when you say something it will give a response, and you program the response as well. Just uh clips of tha that you record yourself. So you can program your coffee-maker that when you say, good morning, to it it says, hello Rick, or whatever. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: But, I mean, it's not it would Betty Morgan: Hm. Joyce Love: be one thing if it was speech recognition where you say something and it turns the T_V_ on like, turn the T_V_ on, and i turns comes on, but it's not that. It just gives Patti Weaver: Oh, Joyce Love: you Patti Weaver: it Joyce Love: a Patti Weaver: just gives an answer. Joyce Love: it just gives you a verbal response. So, yeah, I mean, Patti Weaver: Oh, then then Joyce Love: like what's the point of saying, Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: Hello remote, I mean, hello, Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: how how are Patti Weaver: I Joyce Love: you? Patti Weaver: thought I thought it was when Betty Morgan: Just Patti Weaver: they Betty Morgan: if Patti Weaver: said Betty Morgan: you are really lonely, Joyce Love: Yeah, Betty Morgan: maybe. Joyce Love: if you're really lonely, it Patti Weaver: I thought Joyce Love: is it's Patti Weaver: when they said, voice recognition, they meant um like, channel five, and it Joyce Love: No, Patti Weaver: will change. Joyce Love: tha that Patti Weaver: Like Joyce Love: w Patti Weaver: you Joyce Love: that Patti Weaver: talk Joyce Love: w Patti Weaver: to it. Joyce Love: that would be Patti Weaver: Can Joyce Love: more Patti Weaver: I Joyce Love: promising. Patti Weaver: have channel five? Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: It it's just a remote that talks to you. Uh. Patti Weaver: Oh, Deloris Begum: Yeah. Patti Weaver: then forget Deloris Begum: Yeah. Patti Weaver: about it. Oh right okay. Joyce Love: I mean to certain cues. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Betty Morgan: Okay, so I'll go back, maybe, to the previous slide and we can decide for each problem, what we should choose. So Joyce Love: 'Kay. Betty Morgan: for the energy source, do we go for the battery or the Joyce Love: Yeah, I'm fine with the basic battery. Deloris Begum: Basic Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: battery. It's cheap, it's cheerful, it's worked, does work. Joyce Love: Hmm. Betty Morgan: Cheaper option. Are Patti Weaver: Mm. Betty Morgan: you happy with that? Patti Weaver: Yeah. Betty Morgan: Okay. So we'll go for the battery. Then the case, do you want it flat or curved or sing or Deloris Begum: We Betty Morgan: double Deloris Begum: were go Betty Morgan: curved? Deloris Begum: we were going with the late with the the R_S_I_ rubber, weren't Joyce Love: Yeah, Deloris Begum: we? Joyce Love: so we want it rub rubber double curved. Deloris Begum: The the Patti Weaver: So it will look like Betty Morgan: Double? Patti Weaver: something like Deloris Begum: The double Patti Weaver: this. Deloris Begum: whopper, please. Betty Morgan: Okay, so then if we use double Deloris Begum: Yep, Betty Morgan: curved Deloris Begum: but Betty Morgan: case, then we have Deloris Begum: we're going Betty Morgan: to Deloris Begum: for Betty Morgan: u Deloris Begum: the simple Betty Morgan: choose Deloris Begum: buttons. Joyce Love: So rubber Betty Morgan: rubber push-buttons, Joyce Love: rubber keys, Deloris Begum: Yeah. Betty Morgan: and that's Joyce Love: yeah. Betty Morgan: fine? Deloris Begum: And it's cheapest all round, it sounds kinda funky, and Betty Morgan: P Deloris Begum: we can also Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: market it as i 'cause we were s saying earl you were saying earlier in your research that um the the people have the R_ people were getting the complaining about R_S_I_, and this is anti-R_S_I_. Patti Weaver: Yeah. Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: So that's another marketing point that we can use. Patti Weaver: Well the rubber push-buttons. Don't you have to move Deloris Begum: But Patti Weaver: your Deloris Begum: anything is gonna have buttons. Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: Even if it's a jog wheel, it's still repetitive. Betty Morgan: I thought they Deloris Begum: You Betty Morgan: would give an option of flat buttons or a Deloris Begum: You see, you can Betty Morgan: That Deloris Begum: still Betty Morgan: they don't. Deloris Begum: get it does you still get repetitive strain injury, whether you are pressing a button or pressing a flat bit of screen. It's the v it's the Betty Morgan: Mm. Deloris Begum: fact that you are pressing the same doing the same movement. It's not actually what you are doing. But the fact that this this rubber i is actually used in these anti-R_S_I_ ps specific Patti Weaver: Mm. Yeah, the Joyce Love: Yeah. Patti Weaver: rubber's good. Joyce Love: We're giving them a way to burn off steam, basically, yeah. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Yeah, so they can sit there and go like Joyce Love: Not that watching T_V_ should be that stressful. Deloris Begum: And you know, yeah, you can fuzz it across the room and throw Joyce Love: Oh Deloris Begum: it Joyce Love: yeah, Deloris Begum: at throw Joyce Love: I guess Deloris Begum: it Joyce Love: T_V_ Deloris Begum: at your Joyce Love: can Deloris Begum: children Joyce Love: be stressful, yeah, if you're watching sports. Deloris Begum: yeah. Betty Morgan: Alright, that's Patti Weaver done. Joyce Love: Alright. Alright. Deloris Begum: about the um it's the interface. Joyce Love: Yeah, some of what I have to say ties into what Catherine was just talking about. Deloris Begum: Great. Betty Morgan: Sorry. Joyce Love: Okay, so I'm continuing with the user interface uh topic. And so basically I consulted with our manufacturing division. It sounded like Catherine was also speaking with them. Uh I also took uh Reissa's marketing findings from the last meeting into consideration um, 'cause I think that's that's crucial as far as uh what keys we're going to inc inclu what buttons we are going to include and and how they're laid out. Deloris Begum: Mm. Joyce Love: Uh and so the manufacturing division uh sent some some samples of of uh interface components that we might be interested in using that have been used in other products, uh like the coffee machine. So I already mentioned the speech recognition interface. I guess, we we basically vetoed that idea. It's it's pointless. Deloris Begum: Mm. Joyce Love: Uh it's just a sample sensor sample output. It would just be probably the most expensive part of our remote without any actual interesting functionality as far as operating the T_V_. Uh so yeah, they they also give the uh they they suggested the idea of using a spinning wheel like you use on the Patti Weaver: Mm. Joyce Love: side of Deloris Begum: Mm. Joyce Love: an M_P_ three player like iPod. Um so we've already addressed that and I think that would actually be worse for something like R_S_I_ I mean you got that thumb movement Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: that you're constantly Patti Weaver: Mm. Joyce Love: doing. Patti Weaver: That does get Joyce Love: Um Patti Weaver: annoying. Joyce Love: the other suggestion, and I I have a feeling that we're interested in in something more general, but they suggested uh, you know, going i a little bit into a a niche, like either gearing our remote towards kids, where you could have lot of colours um, the keys might be you know, funny or or, or uh something Deloris Begum: Mm-hmm. Joyce Love: for the elderly, where the remote's very large and the buttons are very large and there's only a few buttons. But you know we can we can discuss this, but it sounded like from our last meeting we really wanted something that was general, but done well. Uh Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: um So, the key layout and design are really crucial. You don't want uh you want people to be able to quickly access the buttons that they use a lot without uh always pressing the wrong one um. And I didn't mention that we need a power button in our last I can give you an example here of uh, good layout and bad layout uh from our manufacturing department. So this would be an example of bad layout, Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: of them, so Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: uh it's sort of confusing for the user. Uh Deloris Begum: Do we have an uh example Joyce Love: this is Deloris Begum: of Joyce Love: the Deloris Begum: a Joyce Love: example Deloris Begum: good one? Joyce Love: of the giant remote that's impossible to lose. Patti Weaver: Uh-huh. Deloris Begum: Brilliant. Patti Weaver: Well Joyce Love: And for something for kids. Yeah. Um. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: And so, yeah, I th I think my personal preferences of we've all kind of talked about and seemed to be on the same page um. Uh so I was against the speech recognition and against going uh towards anything in in a niche sense. I think it should be more general. Deloris Begum: Mm-hmm. Joyce Love: I didn't I didn't think the spinning-wheel or the uh L_C_ display were were crucial for us. And, yeah, that's it for Patti Weaver. Deloris Begum: Okay. Well let's um so w what are our definite decisions on this then as a team? The um The the um the interface type we're going for Joyce Love: So we're we're not gonna have any sort of display I think uh. Deloris Begum: Just the simple Joyce Love: So, yeah, Deloris Begum: s Joyce Love: it's just gonna be Deloris Begum: simple straight set Joyce Love: just Deloris Begum: of Joyce Love: gonna Deloris Begum: buttons. Joyce Love: be push-buttons. Um. I think we shall have a limited number of buttons, ideally, I mean Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: a a power, channel up, channel down, volume up, volume Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: down, and a numerical keypad. Uh. And some sort of it will either have a a lock button like we mentioned or or a cover or something like that. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: I guess it's to the point where we need to decide about that. Deloris Begum: Okay, and we're not yeah. Joyce Love: Well now that we've decided Deloris Begum: Are Joyce Love: on Deloris Begum: we Joyce Love: our Deloris Begum: gonna hav hav an are we d have we decided on whether w we're gonna s supplement it with anything, you know, colours or particular gimmicky bits to it, we're not we're just gonna go for something Joyce Love: Um Deloris Begum: We're Joyce Love: it seems Patti Weaver: Maybe Joyce Love: like we wouldn't wanna Patti Weaver: we can Joyce Love: make it too busy and too sort of gaudy, but um Yeah, I would say mayb maybe a couple of colours like uh like a black with with yellow and somewhere, like maybe the R_R_ Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: can be yellow, or something like that. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Okay. Okey-dokey. Yeah, I don't have any other questions on this. Let's move over Joyce Love: I Deloris Begum: to Joyce Love: I guess the fact uh also that we are having a rubber case uh would prevent us from having the cover function that we thought of before. I mean, 'cause Deloris Begum: Yeah, Joyce Love: uh s Deloris Begum: sure. Joyce Love: so if we wanna have a lock of some sort it would have to be a button. But I think that should be I mean um, I can speak with the button department, but uh I think that it should be easy to have a button that just Deloris Begum: Yeah, the Joyce Love: prevents Deloris Begum: button that Joyce Love: prevents Deloris Begum: just does Joyce Love: the Deloris Begum: that, Joyce Love: other Deloris Begum: yeah. Joyce Love: uh the other buttons from operating. So that should be simple. Deloris Begum: Cool. Patti Weaver: Right. Well, I'm just basically letting you know what's happening in the markets Deloris Begum: Mm yeah. Patti Weaver: and what the fashions are for next year. Um. So yes, so from looking at this year's trends and fashions Deloris Begum: Mm-hmm. Patti Weaver: and also recent investigation that we've done in the remote control market, we have found that for the remote control market these are like most important aspects like that we really need to which we've already probably discussed. Um the most important aspect is look and feel. So the remote control has to look and feel fancier than the ones that already that we already have. So it has to be Deloris Begum: Yeah, why should people Patti Weaver: Yep. Deloris Begum: buy this when they're already got Patti Weaver: Exactly. Deloris Begum: a remote Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: that came with the T_V_? Joyce Love: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Um second, uh it should be technologically innovative innovative. So Deloris Begum: What's that mean? Patti Weaver: Technologically it should be like um work, basically, I guess. It should work. Joyce Love: Well it should be it should be Patti Weaver: Should Joyce Love: maybe cutting edge in some sense, I mean have something that's little more Patti Weaver: That's Joyce Love: technologically Patti Weaver: new. Joyce Love: advanced Deloris Begum: Okay, Joyce Love: than what's on the market. Patti Weaver: Yeah. Deloris Begum: now the trouble is is we've Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: already decided that we're going with the stuff that works already, that's Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: cheap. Joyce Love: Actually, Patti Weaver: Yeah. Joyce Love: I mean, these first two points we've already sort of gone away from, 'cause Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: our rubber one is not fancy I mean it's different, but I wouldn't say like a rubber remote is fancy. If that's what people want then we maybe we're going in the wrong direction. And it's it's not technologically innovative either. Patti Weaver: So, Deloris Begum: Maybe Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: we Patti Weaver: no loose Deloris Begum: could um Patti Weaver: That's why I was thinking, Bluetooth, 'cause if you like put up Bluetooth, and it's like a Bluetooth remote control, everybody's gonna like, oh, 'cause Bluetooth is the in thing nowadays, like it really is, like people and um when it comes to marketing like that's what people go for, they don't really care whether, you know, at the end of the day whether it works properly or not. Deloris Begum: Of course, they do. Patti Weaver: Well, they do, but it's Deloris Begum: One Patti Weaver: like Deloris Begum: hundred Patti Weaver: it's not Deloris Begum: per cent, that's your first thing, you go, oh I'm not gonna buy that, 'cause I dunno if it works or not. Patti Weaver: Yeah, but it looks good. If it looks good and it's it can just be there for decoration. Deloris Begum: Okay, well, what do you two think about this? Joyce Love: So is is the advantage Patti Weaver: But Joyce Love: of Patti Weaver: like Joyce Love: Bluetooth that you can just like synchronise it with other electronics? Deloris Begum: Yeah, what I don't understand what Patti Weaver: You could always insert, Deloris Begum: m Patti Weaver: yeah. Joyce Love: Yeah, that's basically what it allows you to do, right? Deloris Begum: Yeah, and it this is just gonna all this is being used for is your television. Patti Weaver: Yeah, but, I mean, people Deloris Begum: It Patti Weaver: like Deloris Begum: would that would mean you'd need a television that has Bluetooth in it, which Patti Weaver: Well, Deloris Begum: no no Patti Weaver: if you're Deloris Begum: television Betty Morgan: Well Patti Weaver: looking at Deloris Begum: does, does it? Patti Weaver: if you looking at something that's going to be bought by people, you have to make it new, you have to make it Deloris Begum: That would mean Patti Weaver: state Deloris Begum: we'd have to Patti Weaver: of Deloris Begum: make Patti Weaver: the art. Deloris Begum: a television as well. Betty Morgan: Bluetooth would, for example, enable you, I think, to um um connect for example you if you get a w call on your mobile phone, but your mobile phone is downstairs or something, you would get on your television you're being called by this person right now. Things like that. Deloris Begum: No, that would be your telephone in with your television. Joyce Love: Yeah, Betty Morgan: No Joyce Love: the that wouldn't Betty Morgan: i Joyce Love: be the remote so much, Deloris Begum: Yeah, Joyce Love: I mean Betty Morgan: No, Deloris Begum: and Betty Morgan: but Deloris Begum: i Betty Morgan: if you get Bluetooth on the remote, you'd be able to Deloris Begum: Nah, the televi Betty Morgan: I with the television, yeah. Deloris Begum: the television would have to be Betty Morgan: I Deloris Begum: a Betty Morgan: was Deloris Begum: Bluetooth Betty Morgan: just trying to find Deloris Begum: compatible, Betty Morgan: an advantage. Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: basically. Betty Morgan: Wha what w Patti Weaver: Well, Betty Morgan: what Patti Weaver: it doesn't Betty Morgan: advantage Deloris Begum: An Betty Morgan: would Deloris Begum: and Betty Morgan: you Deloris Begum: there Betty Morgan: get Deloris Begum: is no Betty Morgan: for Deloris Begum: there Betty Morgan: the Deloris Begum: is no such thing. Patti Weaver: Like it doesn't have to be, you know, Bluetooth, that was just an idea, but like it needs do something that, you know, is new. Whether it's a battery it could be something really really minor, you know, like but I think we are really keeping to what is already out there, and people've already seen it, people've already got it. Deloris Begum: Okay. Patti Weaver: If we want something new, we need to move away from what we already have and um Betty Morgan: Maybe the kinetic Patti Weaver: just go creative. Betty Morgan: mo provision of energy then. It's been done for watches, but I haven't seen that for remotes, Deloris Begum: Okay. Betty Morgan: yet. Deloris Begum: Yeah, this that's that's Patti Weaver: And then Deloris Begum: very Patti Weaver: you can market Deloris Begum: good. Patti Weaver: it. Never have to change Betty Morgan: Change Patti Weaver: a Betty Morgan: the Patti Weaver: battery Betty Morgan: batteries Patti Weaver: again. Betty Morgan: ever again. Deloris Begum: And and this is all tying in very nicely. The fact that it's made out of this rubber, we can throw it about. Th we should encourage people to throw their remote controls about, because it charges itself Betty Morgan: Yeah, well, Deloris Begum: up by Joyce Love: Yes, Deloris Begum: doing Betty Morgan: and Joyce Love: so Deloris Begum: it. Joyce Love: can Betty Morgan: in little characters you say, yeah, but not too much. Patti Weaver: I think, safety Deloris Begum: But yeah, by the squeezing it Patti Weaver: s Joyce Love: Yeah, Deloris Begum: the Joyce Love: we can make the squeezing of the rubber be the be the generating Deloris Begum: Yeah, Joyce Love: like the energy Patti Weaver: Yeah. Joyce Love: generator. Deloris Begum: that's a great idea. Well done. Patti Weaver: Third most important aspect uh is it's easy to use. And I think we've all Joyce Love: we're Patti Weaver: um Joyce Love: all about that. Patti Weaver: worked that out. Um okay, in the fashion, how it's supposed to look. Next year's fashion i very much in fruit and vegetables are thm are like the theme for cloths, shoes and furniture. So next year people will be buying, I found this really funny, you know, strawberry shaped chairs, Joyce Love: Okay, so we Patti Weaver: and Joyce Love: could have Patti Weaver: things. Joyce Love: keys that are like a b like a broccoli key and a Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: uh Patti Weaver: Yeah. Joyce Love: and an avocado Patti Weaver: Rubber Deloris Begum: I wanna Joyce Love: key Deloris Begum: watch Joyce Love: on Deloris Begum: the Joyce Love: them. Patti Weaver: things. Deloris Begum: pineapple channel. Patti Weaver: Um and as it's rubber the feel which is in this year is spongy, so it's it's not quite spongy, Deloris Begum: Well Patti Weaver: but Deloris Begum: spongy, Patti Weaver: spongy, Deloris Begum: that's Patti Weaver: I would Deloris Begum: where. Patti Weaver: say Deloris Begum: Yeah, Patti Weaver: is Joyce Love: Yeah, Deloris Begum: we're Joyce Love: that's Patti Weaver: yeah, Joyce Love: great Deloris Begum: we're Joyce Love: for us. Patti Weaver: so Deloris Begum: ahead Patti Weaver: we're Deloris Begum: of Patti Weaver: in. Deloris Begum: the game there. Patti Weaver: Yeah. And so personal what I was just saying like move away from the current remote controls uh like the look and the feel of the current ones and change the look and feel, while still keeping to the company's image, basically. So yeah. Deloris Begum: Okay. Patti Weaver: I had to say So Joyce Love: Right. Patti Weaver: we're moving in the right direction Deloris Begum: Alright, Patti Weaver: like Deloris Begum: yeah, no, Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: this i this is good, so through all that we've we go we're right, we're gonna go go back to um going with the kinetic Joyce Love: Yeah, Betty Morgan: Yep. Joyce Love: that's great. Deloris Begum: thing, that's great, using the spongy rubber that we were talking about that anti-R_S_I_ you can as you squeeze it you are not only therapeuticising yourself, you are charging the batteries, Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: and um I'm not sure about the buttons being in the shape of fruit though. Joyce Love: Yeah, I don't know how we Betty Morgan: No Joyce Love: incorporate Betty Morgan: vegetables. Joyce Love: We don't have Patti Weaver: Maybe Joyce Love: to follow Patti Weaver: make Joyce Love: every Patti Weaver: it Joyce Love: trend, Patti Weaver: like Joyce Love: I guess. Patti Weaver: fruity colours or something. Some Joyce Love: Uh-huh. Patti Weaver: sort. Or Joyce Love: The power Patti Weaver: Mm. Joyce Love: button could be like a big apple or something. Betty Morgan: Well yeah, but Apple would sue you for that. Deloris Begum: Yeah, this is true. Joyce Love: They don they don't own all images of apples. Betty Morgan: sued the Beatles so Joyce Love: Okay, we'll make it a uh pomegranate, a big pomegranate. Deloris Begum: Well, okay, it seems like the only thing that we haven't really finally um agreed on is its image. Like, yeah, we're we're saying no we don't want it to be fruit and vegetables, but we dunno what it should be, or like are we going yeah it looks slick, but Patti Weaver: Well Deloris Begum: what do what do we mean by slick sort of thing? Patti Weaver: I think, if it's rubber it needs to be Deloris Begum: I mean you said earlier on i it should be funky. Patti Weaver: different. I think, it's it should be you associate with rubber? You know like really different Deloris Begum: L Patti Weaver: colours Deloris Begum: keep it Patti Weaver: basically. Deloris Begum: clean, keep Patti Weaver: Okay, Deloris Begum: it clean. Patti Weaver: sor I sorry, I used the wrong word, what do you associate with the mate the material that material? Um Um like I'm just thinking bright colours. Joyce Love: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Bright natural colours, nothing too Deloris Begum: Bright, but not too Patti Weaver: Bright, Deloris Begum: bright. Patti Weaver: but too not yeah. Joyce Love: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Like no lime green or bright yellow or bright pink. Wanna make it different colours so anybody can choo like Deloris Begum: Like the volume Patti Weaver: like Deloris Begum: buttons should be the all the same colour and the d and the the channel buttons Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: should be one colour and stuff like that, do you mean? Patti Weaver: Yeah. And on the back of it have the logo. Deloris Begum: Okay, what? Betty Morgan: Yeah. Joyce Love: Sure. Betty Morgan: Why not? Deloris Begum: Okay. Joyce Love: The one Deloris Begum: Tha Joyce Love: thing I'm wondering about, I hope that we're not going like too much down a gimmicky road of of Deloris Begum: Yeah, Joyce Love: having Deloris Begum: I mean Joyce Love: I Deloris Begum: we Joyce Love: mean Deloris Begum: that's Joyce Love: if somebody Deloris Begum: we Joyce Love: go goes Deloris Begum: we Joyce Love: into the store they're gonna see like three or four normal remotes, and then a big spongy pink t tomato Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: uh remote. Deloris Begum: This Joyce Love: I mean what are ninety Deloris Begum: is Joyce Love: per Deloris Begum: the Joyce Love: cent Deloris Begum: remote Joyce Love: of people Deloris Begum: control Joyce Love: gonna take? Deloris Begum: tomato. Patti Weaver: Well I can say in this country, you'll get, you know, lots of people wanting something really funky and cool. Like and kids will be walking in with their parents saying, Mummy I wanna buy that one. And uh parents will see the will see the pro as well, because it's um like kids won't break it, it's not breakable if you throw it around. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Especially with younger kids, you know they can pick it up and and Yeah. The only thing is is that really small kids might chew on it, but Deloris Begum: Well, it's it's gotta be chew proof. Patti Weaver: Yeah. So Betty Morgan: I'm gonna write that Patti Weaver: so it's Betty Morgan: down. Patti Weaver: rea it's quite it's quite like um user friendly and also for different families, like like family use as well, so for little kids and for old ki like teenagers will like it, I think. Especially maybe younger girls if it's in pink they'll be like pink remote control for their room something. Deloris Begum: So, what are you saying, maybe we should market it in different colours Patti Weaver: Yeah. Deloris Begum: for different so we could do Betty Morgan: That's Deloris Begum: like Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: the pink Betty Morgan: yeah. Deloris Begum: range, the blue range, the green range, the Patti Weaver: So like you walk in, you're like, oh I like that remote control, because it's so bright, and then, and then the shop assistant comes up and says, oh what colour would you like? and then they go like, oh I can choose the colour wow. So it puts, I think, even the customer into more control over what they're buying instead of, you've got all colour it's either that or nothing. So they also get to pick. Well, personally I like walking into a shop and choosing a colour. Joyce Love: Yeah I mean, that that seems Patti Weaver: It's Joyce Love: to work Patti Weaver: um Joyce Love: well with for products like iPod, where, you know, you have Patti Weaver: Yeah. Joyce Love: a Deloris Begum: Mm. Joyce Love: variety of colours, that people feel like they're customising it Patti Weaver: Mm. Joyce Love: when they buy it, even, you Patti Weaver: D Joyce Love: know, Patti Weaver: you've Betty Morgan: Although Joyce Love: just Patti Weaver: got Joyce Love: just Betty Morgan: I'd Joyce Love: by Patti Weaver: the Betty Morgan: be Joyce Love: the Betty Morgan: curious Joyce Love: fact of choosing. Betty Morgan: to see how many uh You know, there are some colours that I wouldn I would never choose, and I would be curious how many people choose that colour. Joyce Love: Right. Deloris Begum: Well that's that can be down to bit of market researching Betty Morgan: Mm. Deloris Begum: you know, if that's Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: easy enough to find out what colours are more popular. Betty Morgan: And produce less of the silly colours, maybe. Deloris Begum: Mm. Okay. Alright. Well um, we'll alright let's what we're gonna aim to get together by the next meeting then um is from you Catherine wi your y y you know you're gonna be working on the the look and feel design. Betty Morgan: Yep. Deloris Begum: Um Gabriel, you're gonna be working on, you know come up with the the user interface design. Then basically, you two are gonna be working together on this. You won't be going off Betty Morgan: Alright. Deloris Begum: to your separate offices. Joyce Love: Okay. Deloris Begum: Um and I think you are gonna get a chance to play with some clay. Joyce Love: Oh right. Deloris Begum: I think, yeah, it's gonna Betty Morgan: Mm. Deloris Begum: you know, come up ki you know, be ab for the next meeting be able to come in and show us some some i some physical ideas. 'Cause at Betty Morgan: Cool. Deloris Begum: the moment, uh you know, it's it's hard. Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: We Betty Morgan: It Deloris Begum: were Betty Morgan: is. Deloris Begum: kinda going, yeah, it's gotta feel nice, it's gotta look cool and that it's you know now we can actually start, you know, s some sort of physical something or other. Joyce Love: That sounds good. Deloris Begum: Um and you're gonna be working on the product evaluation. Patti Weaver: Evaluation. Deloris Begum: Um. And I will be uh talking to the bosses, basically, and uh f fielding off some more spam and uh Betty Morgan: Great. Deloris Begum: that's it really. Keeping things t well, uh you know, ho hopefully uh keeping things together. Um. Yeah, that's This is this is uh good. So we know for definite we know we've we've now got some definite things going on. We definitely Joyce Love: Mm. Deloris Begum: know how it's powered, we definitely know that um it's gonna be a simple buttons, we're not gonna be going for the new technological chip on print expensive things, so we've we're keeping the costs down. It's this rubber casing that we can sell as um fun and funky. Don't know of any other remote controls that are made out of this stuff. Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: People, you know, people are saying, oh, standard stuff gives you repetitive strain injury, well this remote control is designed to do the complete opposite, Patti Weaver: Yeah. Deloris Begum: It's supposed to fix it rather than cause it. Um. you know, we're gonna we we're gonna as a sort of extra something on it, you know what what extra things are there extra things this product have? We'll look into this lock key Joyce Love: Right. Deloris Begum: facility, although whether or not it happens, or is possible, I don't know, but something to look into. Okay. I think that's um well done everybody. Joyce Love: Alright. Deloris Begum: Anyone have any uh any questions, everyone know what they're doing? Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: 'Cause if you don't, you'll I'm sure you'll soon get an e-mail about it. Joyce Love: Yeah. Mm, I think we all know what Patti Weaver: S Joyce Love: we need to do now. Patti Weaver: This gives you all the details? Deloris Begum: Okay. Joyce Love: Okay. Deloris Begum: right well. It's um we're we've still couple of minutes until our meeting's due to finish. But um I got a note saying that you two who are gonna be working together so Joyce Love: Okay, I'll stay Deloris Begum: bef Joyce Love: in here. Deloris Begum: before you all disappear off just Patti Weaver: um. Deloris Begum: hold hold fire. Um. Joyce Love: Does the pay-raise immediately come into effect on our next pay-check, or is that Deloris Begum: Um I think, it's uh, yeah, I think, it's gonna be par part more of a profit sharing on the product. Joyce Love: So we're buying fut I mean, we're getting futures in the company. Deloris Begum: Yeah, I think i I think that's I think that's the way it's gonna happen at the moment. Joyce Love: So we really have a incentive to make this remote work. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Yeah. Joyce Love: I'd like to share in the coffee machine profits, because that's really doing well. Deloris Begum: I want a share in the space rocket. Did you see that this k Joyce Love: Yeah. Deloris Begum: that this company we've made Patti Weaver: Yeah. Deloris Begum: a spaceship. Joyce Love: This company has its its fingers in a lot of different pots. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Patti Weaver: Mm. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: Yeah, we're definitely not in the money making department. Joyce Love: Well I I did notice looking at I mean, they told you that they wanted whatev our product to represent the the R_R_ brand and and to be immediately Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: noticeable. I mean, if you look like at the coffee maker at the at the corporate web page, it's Patti Weaver: Mm. Joyce Love: not obvious. R_R_. Well it is to us, because we we worked worked here for years and we use that coffee machine, but it's doesn't have the colour scheme of of the of the company anywhere on it obviously it's just Deloris Begum: Mm. Joyce Love: sil silver and black. Betty Morgan: That's true. Deloris Begum: And the spaceship doesn't have the R_ Joyce Love: No. Deloris Begum: have a massive R_ and R_ down the side of it but Joyce Love: Mm. Betty Morgan: Doesn't Deloris Begum: I still want one. Okay. Um I've just had a sign flashing up saying, finish the meeting. Betty Morgan: Yeah. Deloris Begum: Uh. Joyce Love: Okay. Deloris Begum: Yeah. Joyce Love: Right, well, I guess that's us. Deloris Begum: Yeah. It's not telling it's not saying do anything in particular just yet. So maybe you should go back to your own offices. Joyce Love: Okay. Right. Betty Morgan: Are we taking these off? Deloris Begum: Yeah. Yeah, it says you two.

Deloris Begum recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Betty Morgan discussed different options for batteries, materials, and components, as well as restrictions involved in combining particular materials, components, and batteries. The team then discussed and decided what materials, components, and what type of battery to use in their product. The interface specialist presented examples of existing remotes on the market with good and bad layouts and stated what features the remote required. Patti Weaver discussed research from trendwatching reports, finding that products now require technological innovativeness, a fancy look and feel, a spongy feel, and a fruit and vegetable theme. This lead to a discussion on whether to use Bluetooth or infra-red technology in remote. The team then discussed how to incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the remote.

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Lorena Turner: It's Play-Doh. Shirley Schechter: Play-Doh's edible. Did you know that? It's definitely Lorena Turner: Because kids Tiffany Snowden: I Cassandra Ramos: I've, Tiffany Snowden: used to eat Lorena Turner: yeah. Tiffany Snowden: it. Cassandra Ramos: I've definitely eaten it before. I didn't know was Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: edible. Lorena Turner: But um, Shirley Schechter: It's Lorena Turner: it's it's Shirley Schechter: it's Lorena Turner: made Shirley Schechter: chew Lorena Turner: edible Shirley Schechter: proof. Lorena Turner: 'cause, yeah. It's made edible 'cause kids eat it, and Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Lorena Turner: if it's wasn't edible then Well, normal Cassandra Ramos: Actually Lorena Turner: babies. Cassandra Ramos: that makes sense, because I remember like, peopl I dunno if my Mom ever did it but I remember other people's Moms making like home-made Play-Doh where you just like make the colouring and make some sort of sort of Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: dough. Lorena Turner: Oh yeah it is, yeah. Oh yeah. Cassandra Ramos: Mm-hmm. Shirley Schechter: Right. Everybody everybody ready? Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Tiffany Snowden: Yep. Shirley Schechter: Okay, let's have your um Cassandra Ramos: We've got Shirley Schechter: let's Cassandra Ramos: some. Shirley Schechter: get have the uh presentation? Tiffany Snowden: We've Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Tiffany Snowden: got a cool prototype. Cassandra Ramos: it's pretty exciting. So, everything uh that we wanted we wanted it to be ergonomic and to be made out of rubber, simple and easy to use, Tiffany Snowden: Double curved. Cassandra Ramos: yeah, Shirley Schechter: Nice. Cassandra Ramos: double curved, um but also something that was gonna jump out at people, something that would be different uh, separate it from the other remotes out on the market. So uh I think if you put this in the palm of your hand, you'll see what a nice thing we have going here. Lorena Turner: That is cool. Cassandra Ramos: So, basically, if you hold it like that, the one on your thumb, yeah, Shirley Schechter: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ramos: the thumb button is the power button. Shirley Schechter: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Ramos: Your index finger is channel up, middle finger is channel down, ring finger is volume up, your pinkie is volume down. Lorena Turner: What's the big blue thing? Cassandra Ramos: That's the lock button, has a L_ Lorena Turner: Oh Cassandra Ramos: L_ on Lorena Turner: cool. Cassandra Ramos: it and then the M_ is a mute button. And then it also has digit Shirley Schechter: what button? Um. Lorena Turner: And Cassandra Ramos: For muting Lorena Turner: mute. Cassandra Ramos: the Shirley Schechter: Oh Cassandra Ramos: uh Shirley Schechter: mute. Cassandra Ramos: Um and then then you can also there's a numeric keypad on the top so you can key directly to the Shirley Schechter: Okay. Cassandra Ramos: to the channel if you want. So it's really basic functionalities as far as what keys are available, but we think it's very comfortable and very innovative and it looks different. Shirley Schechter: That certainly does. Cassandra Ramos: So all the, I mean the important keys are right at your f f you know right at uh at a convenient place for you to to access them. Shirley Schechter: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: So Tiffany Snowden: Which Cassandra Ramos: you Tiffany Snowden: is Cassandra Ramos: don't Tiffany Snowden: ant Cassandra Ramos: you Tiffany Snowden: anti-R_S_I_. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: It should be. And it's also conformable to the size of your hand. I mean if that's too big, it's a rubber remote, Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: so you can, you know Shirley Schechter: 'S great. Cassandra Ramos: change that. Lorena Turner: Oh it's Cassandra Ramos: So Lorena Turner: so Cassandra Ramos: d Lorena Turner: cute. Cassandra Ramos: does that uh what mesh with what you guys were hoping and for and expecting or Shirley Schechter: I Cassandra Ramos: does it Shirley Schechter: have one thing about it, but it's a small thing, but it'd mean we'd have to make a right-handed one and a left-handed one. Cassandra Ramos: Ah, Tiffany Snowden: Oh right, yeah. Cassandra Ramos: that's good thinking, yeah. Shirley Schechter: But, that's I don't see why that's not Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Shirley Schechter: possible. Cassandra Ramos: if we build rocket ships why can't we build left-handed and right-handed Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: uh remotes. Shirley Schechter: They make left-handed scissors, you know. Lorena Turner: Yeah, Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Lorena Turner: but Cassandra Ramos: I Lorena Turner: then Cassandra Ramos: didn't I didn't think about that, but I'd yeah, Lorena Turner: but then you can learn to use your right h like I was if there's left-handers and right-handers family, what, they have two remotes? Shirley Schechter: Yes Tiffany Snowden: Yeah, I know I know people Shirley Schechter: s Tiffany Snowden: who have left-handed and right-handed people in the family and they all use the computer for the whole the same computer the fes family Shirley Schechter: Mm. Tiffany Snowden: and they have Shirley Schechter: Sure. Tiffany Snowden: a mouse, Shirley Schechter: Sure. Tiffany Snowden: and everybody is using right-handed mouse. Lorena Turner: Yeah, I'm sure they'll be able to Cassandra Ramos: Uh-huh. Lorena Turner: I mean it's only pressing buttons, you don't have to do anything, you know, extraordinary. I think everybody can Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Lorena Turner: press a button with their left and right hand so Tiffany Snowden: Imagine d are you right handed? Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Tiffany Snowden: Imagine you're doing it with your left hand, I don't think it's too Lorena Turner: Yeah, it's not Tiffany Snowden: have both uh Lorena Turner: Yeah. Have them in stock. Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Lorena Turner: Make 'em more appealing as well. Shirley Schechter: But um other than that, I mean uh and that's um, you know, that's just something, I think I think it's great, yeah, great idea. Cassandra Ramos: Do you think it says R_R_? Tiffany Snowden: I think it does. Shirley Schechter: I think it's, well, if the R_R_ motto is, we bring Cassandra Ramos: Fashion Shirley Schechter: fashion Cassandra Ramos: to electronics. Shirley Schechter: to to electronics, I'd Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: say Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: that could be quite fashionable. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. And it's got the b the black and yellow and blue. Plus red, which Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: is sort of a a fruit and vegetable uh uh. Tiffany Snowden: There you go. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: So that's that's our end of things wha uh That's Shirley Schechter: Yeah, very good, yeah. It's come up with what we've you know, the things that's what we've what we were looking at doing, hasn't Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: it, all seems to be there. Well done. Lorena Turner: And all the playing around is uh Shirley Schechter: Um before we move on Lorena Turner: Yeah, I'm just do you wanna plug in? Shirley Schechter: I need that cable. Lorena Turner: Okay. Shirley Schechter: Thank you. Yeah. Um. One thing I do need to do we need to look at, is the costs. Cassandra Ramos: The costs, was that what you said? Tiffany Snowden: Play-Doh is very cheap. Shirley Schechter: Well, yeah. Lorena Turner: Mm. Play-Doh Shirley Schechter: um Lorena Turner: won't last very long everybody'll go like, oops, it's gone. Cassandra Ramos: But it's edible. Lorena Turner: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Tiffany Snowden: Chew proof. Lorena Turner: Well, they'll buy more of them if you eat them, Cassandra Ramos: That was the main criteria from the last meeting, it had to be chew proof. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Uh right. Okay, now I think we'll do this Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: I could do you know, I can do this Tiffany Snowden: Oh Shirley Schechter: o Tiffany Snowden: ho-ho. Shirley Schechter: on my own or I could do it with you, but it's just easy enough to go through it with you, so we're going for the kinetic power. Tiffany Snowden: Yep. Shirley Schechter: And the electronics, we decided on it being just a simple, the easiest thing that's inside it. Ooh. So the case, we've gone for the double curved. Um and it's made out of rubber. The interface is push-buttons. And button supplements well they're in diff special colours, aren't they? Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: So Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: special colours. Lorena Turner: It's better for Shirley Schechter: Special form, yeah, they're a special form there in shapes and stuff. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Lorena Turner: And Cassandra Ramos: I mean, Lorena Turner: special Cassandra Ramos: these Lorena Turner: material. Cassandra Ramos: these ones on the side are Shirley Schechter: Yep. Cassandra Ramos: curved kind Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: of, so Shirley Schechter: Um. Are they made Tiffany Snowden: Rubber. Shirley Schechter: out of any special material? No they're not. They're not made out of wood or titanium or rubber or anything, they're just simple Lorena Turner: Well they're rubber, Cassandra Ramos: The buttons Lorena Turner: aren't Cassandra Ramos: are Lorena Turner: they? Cassandra Ramos: rubber. Shirley Schechter: Okay. Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Right. So let's see if that comes within budget. And it does. That is gonna Lorena Turner: We're under Shirley Schechter: cost Lorena Turner: budget. Shirley Schechter: uh Yeah. That's gonna cost ten ten Euro seventy cents a unit to make. And Cassandra Ramos: That's Shirley Schechter: our target Cassandra Ramos: cool. Shirley Schechter: was it had to come in at under twelve Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: fifty. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: So, Cassandra Ramos: And we're actua actually making a better profit than we expected. Shirley Schechter: this is all very very good. The bosses will be very pleased. Okay, let's just save this so I can e-mail it to you. Uh. Save Lorena Turner: It's already Shirley Schechter: it Lorena Turner: saved, Shirley Schechter: in Lorena Turner: I think. Shirley Schechter: save it in the uh my documents. Shirley Schechter: Splendid. Okay. So uh, that's done with this with this um doodah, so you're. Gonna do Lorena Turner: Thank Shirley Schechter: what you Lorena Turner: you. Shirley Schechter: were gonna do, Lorena Turner: Mm. Shirley Schechter: your evaluation. Lorena Turner: Oh, yeah. This is where we all get to I get to write on the, oops, on the board. Right. Oh. 'S function Shirley Schechter: F_ eight. Lorena Turner: Okay. Shirley Schechter: I love the smell of that Play-Doh. Lorena Turner: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, have some Shirley Schechter: I Cassandra Ramos: have some. Shirley Schechter: cou. Lorena Turner: Okay. So, evaluation. We're gonna do it all together so we evaluate each criteria. I've got the criterias. And we have to do it on a scale of one to seven, one being true, so it's it's more like it's fits the criteria, and seven being as in it doesn't fit the criteria. And the criterias are, and I'll draw this up on the board so we have a box Lorena Turner: And this is false, this is just like to keep you informed. So seven's here and one's here and then you've got in the middle. So the first criteria. Do you all get what we're doing? Cassandra Ramos: Mm-hmm. Tiffany Snowden: Mm-hmm. Lorena Turner: Okay, cool. Okay, first criteria, look and feel. So the does remote look and feel fashionable to what we talked about? As it is it colour-wise and is it spongy? So what Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Lorena Turner: mark should we Shirley Schechter: I Lorena Turner: give Shirley Schechter: would give it Lorena Turner: for Shirley Schechter: a seven. Lorena Turner: that? Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Lorena Turner: As in it's not. Cassandra Ramos: Oh, sorry, one. Shirley Schechter: Oh sorry, Tiffany Snowden: A Shirley Schechter: one, Tiffany Snowden: one. Lorena Turner: A one a Shirley Schechter: d Lorena Turner: one. Shirley Schechter: yeah. Lorena Turner: So I'll just write criteria criteria one we get one. Second criteria, new technology. Have we implemented new technology? As in the new Tiffany Snowden: Well, Lorena Turner: high-tech Tiffany Snowden: the kinetic thing, yeah. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: That was our main technological innovation w every everything Lorena Turner: So Cassandra Ramos: else Lorena Turner: it's. Cassandra Ramos: was fairly simple, but the fact Lorena Turner: So we'll give Cassandra Ramos: that we Lorena Turner: it Cassandra Ramos: used Lorena Turner: a Cassandra Ramos: the kinetic energy was Tiffany Snowden: Well Cassandra Ramos: new. Tiffany Snowden: so the um Cassandra Ramos: It's ergonomic, but that's Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: not Shirley Schechter: Yeah, Cassandra Ramos: that's Shirley Schechter: but that's not a technological Cassandra Ramos: that's a design Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: thing, Cassandra Ramos: that's Shirley Schechter: that's Cassandra Ramos: a des Shirley Schechter: another Cassandra Ramos: that's Shirley Schechter: thing, Cassandra Ramos: a design Shirley Schechter: i that's Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: thing, Shirley Schechter: another Cassandra Ramos: yeah. Shirley Schechter: marketing Tiffany Snowden: True. Shirley Schechter: thing. Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: So on the technical side of it Lorena Turner: I'd Shirley Schechter: it Lorena Turner: say it's about a a Cassandra Ramos: It's Lorena Turner: twoish? Cassandra Ramos: about Tiffany Snowden: Two. Cassandra Ramos: in the mid in Lorena Turner: Two. Cassandra Ramos: the middle somewhere, maybe, yeah, I dunno. Lorena Turner: Three. Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: Maybe three, yeah. Lorena Turner: three. So criteria three is is Shirley Schechter: Easy Lorena Turner: it easy Shirley Schechter: to Lorena Turner: to Shirley Schechter: use. Lorena Turner: use? I think it's a one, Shirley Schechter: I'd Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: say Lorena Turner: I think. Shirley Schechter: it's I wouldn't not if you're left-handed it's not. I would Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Shirley Schechter: give it a I would give it a two, Lorena Turner: Two, so it's Shirley Schechter: 'cause i i it Cassandra Ramos: Okay. Shirley Schechter: i it i it is more geared for right-handed people than left-handed people, but Lorena Turner: But if Tiffany Snowden: Mm. Lorena Turner: we make a right-handed and a left-handed then? Cassandra Ramos: If we're gonna have one left-handed and one right-handed then I would give it a one, but otherwise Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: otherwise a two. Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Give it a t give it a two. Lorena Turner: Yeah, okay. 'Kay, criteria four is Shirley Schechter: Cost. Lorena Turner: costs. Shirley Schechter: It's come Lorena Turner: 's Shirley Schechter: in under budget. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: So Lorena Turner: great. Shirley Schechter: that's a definite one. Cassandra Ramos: That was great. Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: Amount of buttons. Lorena Turner: Like the amount of buttons, 'cause people Shirley Schechter: Contains Lorena Turner: like a lot le Shirley Schechter: only the Lorena Turner: like Shirley Schechter: necessary buttons. Lorena Turner: So it's a one? Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Lorena Turner: Um criteria six. R_S_I_ is it good against? Yes. Tiffany Snowden: Yes Shirley Schechter: So Lorena Turner: Very Shirley Schechter: it's Lorena Turner: good. Shirley Schechter: anti-R_S_I_. Tiffany Snowden: s Lorena Turner: It's Tiffany Snowden: yeah. Lorena Turner: one. And criteria seven, which is the last one, does it get lost? Is it easy Tiffany Snowden: It's Lorena Turner: to get Tiffany Snowden: yellow. Lorena Turner: lost? Shirley Schechter: I don't think it's gonna get Cassandra Ramos: It is Shirley Schechter: lost Cassandra Ramos: very Shirley Schechter: easily. Cassandra Ramos: bright, yeah. Lorena Turner: No? But it is smallish. Cassandra Ramos: It's not the kinda Tiffany Snowden: Two. Cassandra Ramos: thing that's gonna slip like between a couch cushion or something, you know. Maybe it will. Uh. Tiffany Snowden: T Lorena Turner: Mm. I think i it would, could be, could get Cassandra Ramos: You think Lorena Turner: lost. Cassandra Ramos: it could lost Lorena Turner: Mm. Shirley Schechter: two. Lorena Turner: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Lorena Turner: I mean it's Shirley Schechter: I Lorena Turner: not Shirley Schechter: mean it Lorena Turner: fully it's not fully like Shirley Schechter: No, Lorena Turner: you can't Shirley Schechter: I mean Lorena Turner: say I mean, it's not a one, definitely. Shirley Schechter: I mean, you could Cassandra Ramos: Okay. Shirley Schechter: still flush it down the toilet theoretically, Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Shirley Schechter: but Cassandra Ramos: anything, I mean. Okay. It's bigger than the average mobile, I guess. Lorena Turner: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: But, yeah, it can get lost. Lorena Turner: The mobiles get lost all the time. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Okay, yeah, two is Lorena Turner: But then Cassandra Ramos: fine. Lorena Turner: you ring 'em and you Tiffany Snowden: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, Lorena Turner: find them. Tiffany Snowden: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: yeah. Lorena Turner: So Shirley Schechter: Okay. Lorena Turner: Yeah. So, that's that. So that's the evaluation, so I'd say Yay. Shirley Schechter: Alright it's Lorena Turner: It's Shirley Schechter: all Lorena Turner: like Shirley Schechter: all Tiffany Snowden: We've, Shirley Schechter: systems go. Tiffany Snowden: we've done well. Lorena Turner: like Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Lorena Turner: a number one. Um. Number one product. Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Lorena Turner: All done, thanks. Shirley Schechter: We can't Lorena Turner: We Shirley Schechter: fail. Lorena Turner: fitted all the criterias. Yeah. Yeah, so Shirley Schechter: Well done, Reissa. Lorena Turner: So that's that one. Shirley Schechter: Okay, I I think um I just wanna put in as Project Manager the you know, little bit of praise for everybody here for how they've worked on it, you know, both individually and as a team. You know you've w everyone's come up with their own individual ideas in their own different departments, um and then come together and worked in, you know, integrally, you know, at the right times, psp, you know, especially you two. That's all, you know, Cassandra Ramos: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: gone very very well and and and be you know, has been good communication going on. Cassandra Ramos: Yeah, during our design I mean there was some s some heated heated discussion, but we we kept we tried to keep it cool and and just Shirley Schechter: Did you Cassandra Ramos: just Shirley Schechter: have to go down to the the corporate squash court and bash a few Tiffany Snowden: Well. Shirley Schechter: balls about? Cassandra Ramos: We just Tiffany Snowden: You Cassandra Ramos: had Tiffany Snowden: know Cassandra Ramos: to we just had to squeeze our product a little bit and Shirley Schechter: Fantastic. Cassandra Ramos: Now Tiffany Snowden: It Cassandra Ramos: you guys Tiffany Snowden: is. Cassandra Ramos: have been a a great team. Think we're the we're the envy of all Lorena Turner: been Cassandra Ramos: the Lorena Turner: cool. Cassandra Ramos: of all the other R_R_ teams, Shirley Schechter: I think So I I, you know, and I think we've co we have come we've come up with something new, something that hasn't been done before, we haven't we're not just rehashing an old design. Lorena Turner: In four diff in in four meetings. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Lorena Turner: Funny, all designer meetings could be this quick. Shirley Schechter: this isn't a simulation, maybe this is actually so it's like Cassandra Ramos: Yeah I think they're actually Shirley Schechter: Sony Cassandra Ramos: trying to find Shirley Schechter: or Cassandra Ramos: ideas Shirley Schechter: someone Cassandra Ramos: for Shirley Schechter: like that Cassandra Ramos: a ideal Shirley Schechter: they're Cassandra Ramos: remote. Shirley Schechter: they're just, yeah, they Lorena Turner: They're using Shirley Schechter: get Lorena Turner: our ideas. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Yeah, two years' time this will be on the market. Ex exactly that product um thum we'll go, yeah, we designed that and no-one will believe us. But um Cassandra Ramos: So at this stage, I mean, is this the last meeting of the project? We don't uh have Lorena Turner: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: another one after it's gone gone Shirley Schechter: No, Cassandra Ramos: to marke market Shirley Schechter: I think Cassandra Ramos: or something? Shirley Schechter: when this meeting's finished like Tiffany Snowden: Y Shirley Schechter: officially, there b we'll get a uh questionnaire Tiffany Snowden: Oh really? Shirley Schechter: to fill in. Or six, Lorena Turner: Just Shirley Schechter: uh Lorena Turner: start summarising now. You can reply to the same message. Shirley Schechter: I haven't got message. Lorena Turner: See summary, there. If you just reply to that one. Cassandra Ramos: So there's no way to like predict what our 'Cause we had a we originally had a As far as our financial uh um goals, we had a specific number for profits that we wanted. It was fifty mil fifty million Lorena Turner: Was it was it fifty or five? Cassandra Ramos: I don't remember. But there's not a way to compute that, mean, since we saved on the on the production cost, do we know how much we're making on profit? Shirley Schechter: It Lorena Turner: Depends Shirley Schechter: gets Lorena Turner: how Shirley Schechter: handed Lorena Turner: much we sell. Shirley Schechter: over to another department. Cassandra Ramos: Uh. Shirley Schechter: What our what our project was was to come up with the product, Cassandra Ramos: Hmm. Shirley Schechter: basically. the for the and just basically is it it come can is it within budget. When it c when it comes to all the other things of how to sell it and, you know, the b the profits and all that that's other departments it's another team that actually work out the mai the Cassandra Ramos: But we have a vested interest Shirley Schechter: oh Cassandra Ramos: prof Shirley Schechter: yeah, Cassandra Ramos: profit Shirley Schechter: the all Cassandra Ramos: sharing. Shirley Schechter: the guys in the profit sharing, yeah. Um. Yeah, that's it. You know, we've we've Lorena Turner: We finished an hour earlier. Shirley Schechter: we've made i we've made we've designed the product, we've ma we've got the prototype, it's within budget, it's does everything that we wanted it to do. It's new, it's it's um something that uh that isn't out there already. Cassandra Ramos: I think actually and one advantage of of this is that after the uh, you know, after this fad of fruit and vegetables passes this will still be c a cool Lorena Turner: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: remote, you know. We're not we're not you know, tying tying our cart to that one horse. Lorena Turner: Mm. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Well, this Lorena Turner: Definitely. Shirley Schechter: is very marketable in that it is it's it's something that's kind of new and looks a bit quirky for people who want that, it's that it's um, hang on, I wrote it down here somewhere Oh no I thi I put it in one of my e-mails that I sent off. Um that, you know, it's marketable in the sense that it's whilst all these other remotes uh actually do give you repetitive strain injury, our one Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Shirley Schechter: does the complete opposite, Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Shirley Schechter: you know, so that's something that's new, which is one of the criteria they asked us to come up with something Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Shirley Schechter: with something new. Cassandra Ramos: It make watching T_V_ healthy. Shirley Schechter: Yeah, and Lorena Turner: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: if you're not having a good time with the T_V_, you can f throw it about, you know. It's fine, it's kid proof. Lorena Turner: Just don't sh don't Cassandra Ramos: Uh. Lorena Turner: throw it at any of the ornaments and break them. Shirley Schechter: Well, you can break the ornaments, but you won't break that. Lorena Turner: No. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. So all in all, I think we've done very well. Tiffany Snowden: Mm yep. Shirley Schechter: Well done everybody. Lorena Turner: Yay. Cassandra Ramos: Right, you too. Shirley Schechter: Um. Drinks are on the company. Tiffany Snowden: Cool. Shirley Schechter: In the corporate bar that's next to the corporate swimming pool on the top floor that we're that've all just gained access to. Cassandra Ramos: Mm. Tiffany Snowden: Glad to hear that. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. That's it. Cassandra Ramos: That's it. Shirley Schechter: Well, as far as I t as far as I know. Um. Lorena Turner: Yep. We haven't got the five minute left thing yet. Shirley Schechter: No. Anyone wanna Lorena Turner: Mm Shirley Schechter: play I spy? Lorena Turner: mm. Cassandra Ramos: I guess it's probably better that we wrap it up than have five minutes of silence. Should we call the day then? Shirley Schechter: Yeah, I guess. I mean we're gonna get asked to fill out another questionnaire. Cassandra Ramos: Uh, right. Shirley Schechter: Um. It's probably gonna be the same as one we've done before. Cassandra Ramos: Mm-hmm. Lorena Turner: In Shirley Schechter: But Lorena Turner: project. Shirley Schechter: I'm not the authority to say that it is. Um how does everyone feel about the technology that's been used in this? The sort of using of the the pens and writing on these special pads and all that? Lorena Turner: I love it. I love it. I think it's cool. Being all wired up and a vibrating pen and it's cool. Being watched. Um Cassandra Ramos: Your moment to shine. Lorena Turner: Wow. Shirley Schechter: Yeah. I thi you know, I'd I'd n yeah, as we said earlier, I've not never seen that before. something that t the whiteboard Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: thingy, that's great. Um, but a p a pen with a camera on it, I don't think it's such a new thing. I mean it's i or in such a new idea. It would be different if it was sort of hand writing recognition stuff, Tiffany Snowden: Yeah. Shirley Schechter: but as it's not it's literally that'll come up on a computer screen as a picture file rather than actual text. Lorena Turner: Mm. Cassandra Ramos: Right, I think they do want to do hand writing recognition Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: on that, it's just Shirley Schechter: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: the first step. Shirley Schechter: Mm. Lorena Turner: Logitech. Cassandra Ramos: I guess we should end this, since we're off off topic. Lorena Turner: Yeah. Cassandra Ramos: So. Shall we Lorena Turner: Meeting adjourned. Cassandra Ramos: Right. Shirley Schechter: Yeah.

The interface specialist and industrial designer presented their prototype to the team and discussed the features the prototype contained. In presenting the prototype, the issue arose that the prototype could only be used with the right hand. The team then looked at the production costs of the remote and found that their remote was actually under budget and that they could retain all the features they had originally decided upon without exceeding the target cost. The team evaluated the prototype on the basis of its look and feel, technological innovation, ease of use, costs, and its ability to be misplaced. Overall, the prototype performed very well in meeting all the criteria of the evaluation. The team then evaluated the project process, finding that they we re happy with their product and their performance in the project.

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Whitney Shoemaker: Hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: Okay. Good morning everybody. Um I'm glad you could all come. I'm really excited to start this team. Um I'm just gonna have a little PowerPoint presentation for us, for our kick-off meeting. My name is Rose Lindgren. I I'll be Cassandra Tarzia. Um our agenda today is we are gonna do a little opening and then I'm gonna talk a little bit about the project, then we'll move into acquaintance such as getting to know each other a little bit, including a tool training exercise. And then we'll move into the project plan, do a little discussion and close, since we only have twenty five minutes. First of all our project aim. Um we are creating a new remote control which we have three goals about, it needs to be original, trendy and user-friendly. I'm hoping that we can all work together to achieve all three of those. Um so we're gonna divide us up into three compa three parts. First the functional design which will be uh first we'll do individual work, come into a meeting, the conceptional design, individual work and a meeting, and then the detailed design, individual work and a meeting. So that we'll each be doing our own ideas and then coming together and um collaborating. Okay, we're gonna get to know each other a little bit. So um, what we're gonna do is start off with um let's start off with Amina. Um Elizabeth Perry: Alima. Cassandra Tarzia: Alima, sorry, Alima. Um we're gonna do a little tool training, so we are gonna work with that whiteboard behind you. Um introduce yourself, um say one thing about yourself and then draw your favourite animal and tell us about it. Elizabeth Perry: Okay. Um I don't know which one of these I have to bring with Whitney Shoemaker. Cassandra Tarzia: Probably both. Elizabeth Perry: Right, so, I'm supposed to draw my favourite animal. I have no drawing skills whatsoever. But uh let's see, introduce myself. My name is Alima Bucciantini. Um I'm from the state of Maine in the US. I'm doing nationalism studies, blah, blah, blah, and I have no artistic talents. Cassandra Tarzia: How do you spell your name? Elizabeth Perry: A_ L_ I_ M_ A_. Cassandra Tarzia: Thanks. Elizabeth Perry: Oh, on this project. So let's see if I can get um here. I will draw a little turtle for you all. Not necessarily 'cause it's my absolute favourite animal, but just that I think they're drawable. And you have the pretty little shell going on. Some little eyes. Happy. There you go. That's a turtle. Whitney Shoemaker: Yes. Cassandra Tarzia: So what are your favourite characteristics? Elizabeth Perry: Um. I I like the whole having a shell thing. Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Elizabeth Perry: It's quite cool carry your home around where you go, um quite decorative little animals, they can swim, they can, they're very adaptable, they carry everything they need with them, um and they're easy to draw. Cassandra Tarzia: Excellent. Shall we just go around the table? Cynthia Tapia: Uh Okay. Well, my Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Cynthia Tapia: uh and I'm Cynthia Tapia for the project. Um. And I'll try and draw my favourite animal. I'll I should leave that one on there Elizabeth Perry: No, Cynthia Tapia: shouldn't Elizabeth Perry: you Cynthia Tapia: I Elizabeth Perry: can erase Cynthia Tapia: before Elizabeth Perry: the Cynthia Tapia: I Elizabeth Perry: turtle, it's alright. Cynthia Tapia: callously rub it off. Cassandra Tarzia: Might be nice to have them all up there at same time. Cynthia Tapia: Um I'm not gonna draw it quite to scale um. Cynthia Tapia: Is that at least identifiable? Elizabeth Perry: Snake. Whitney Shoemaker: Well. Cynthia Tapia: It's Cassandra Tarzia: Em Cynthia Tapia: a whale, Elizabeth Perry: Well, snake? It's Cynthia Tapia: yes. Thanks. Whitney Shoemaker: Oh my god, it's better than what I'm gonna Elizabeth Perry: w Whitney Shoemaker: be able to do. Cynthia Tapia: Um and, yeah, all they're quite intelligent um and also they're they're kind of mysterious, like we don't really know much about them or or understand how they work, how they form groups. And I just find them interesting animals. Whitney Shoemaker: Take my contraptions with Whitney Shoemaker. Alright, I'm Jessy. I'm from around D_C_ ish sort of in the U_S_. And we're gonna keep the deep sea sort of theme going on, animal. Don't really know how to draw this. Just where can I Mm. Mm. Maybe if I do the water, but how? Sort of give an idea. idea how one would explain this. Mm maybe with some whiskers. Briefly, it's supposed to be a seal. You can imagine it in the water. I like them, because they are like playful and silly sort of have a good time. Not gonna try and pretend like I can get any better than that. Cassandra Tarzia: Mm 'kay. Mm 'kay? I'm Rose and I'm Project Manager, from California. Um. Hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: S Whitney Shoemaker: It's definitely significantly Elizabeth Perry: Oh, a cat. Whitney Shoemaker: harder once you are doing it. Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Cassandra Tarzia: Um it's actually a coyote. Let's see. Elizabeth Perry: Right. Cassandra Tarzia: Let's see, Whitney Shoemaker: That's impressive. Cassandra Tarzia: let's give it a little bit of a snout, I don't know, Elizabeth Perry: That's Cassandra Tarzia: some teeth. Yeah. Elizabeth Perry: That's pretty Cynthia Tapia: Cool. Elizabeth Perry: impressive. Cassandra Tarzia: Oh dear. Yes. I live um I live right across the street from an open space in California. We have coyotes howl all the time. So I really enjoy their their singing, you they're really beautiful animals. Mm. Okay um, moving on to slightly more serious stuff. We're gonna talk about project finances. Um we have a couple we'd like to sell it for about twenty five Euro with the profit aim of um fifteen million Euro um from our sales and because this is such this is for television it's a we have a market range of Internet, like it's an international market range, we don't have to worry about specifics. Um in order to make a profit of this magnitude, we need to um be able to produce each one at a maximum of twelve fifty Euro. So we're selling it for twice what we'd like to produce it for. Okay um, just to generate a little bit of discussion about the project um, I could I'd like to hear about your experiences using ro remote controls, um your first ideas about um creating a new r remote control, what would be the best um like you what are the features that you really like what are the features that you don't like, etcetera, so Whitney Shoemaker: Um I hate when there's like four different buttons and you have to press to actually turn on the T_V_ like you have to do one for the power of the T_V_ and then like another one to get the actual screen on and something else to get it all going, I don't know. Now they keep combining all different remotes together, and I don't know if I necessarily like that 'cause I feel like you end up with multimedia overload. I just wanna watch the T_V_ Cassandra Tarzia: Hmm. Whitney Shoemaker: um. Always gets lost. Some sort of like device to help you find it. Cynthia Tapia: I've used, I've used remote controls, for things like T_V_ and the C_D_ player and video recorder and I I guess they're they're pretty neat neat little tools uh. You don't have to get up and walk across the room to change Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Cynthia Tapia: a channel. So especially if you're someone really lazy like Whitney Shoemaker they they're pretty nice. Um. I find them they can be a bit annoying, especially, like you know if I'm watching T_V_ I have have to have three separate remote controls of in front of Whitney Shoemaker, you know, one for the T_V_, one for the digital box, one for m the video recorder as well. Um. And also they tend to they tend to be a bit confusing, they've got too many buttons on them uh too too sort of too sort of complicated when all I really wanna do is switch on and off, change the channel, change the volume. Elizabeth Perry: Yeah um. I agree with having too many remotes around. My dad has a whole drawer at home of remotes for various things, and I don't know how to work half of them um. What's important for Whitney Shoemaker, I guess, is that it's easy to use and that there's not too many buttons, they are not too small, you know you know you need to n to know what you're doing. And one thing I particularly like is if you are not um sort of moving it around to get it to work with the infra-red. Whitney Shoemaker: Yeah. Cynthia Tapia: Yeah. Elizabeth Perry: Um, I think there is a way around that, but I know in my residence right now the the television you sort of have to walk all around the room to Cassandra Tarzia: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Perry: get it to turn on, so i it's just simpler just to just turn around the T_V_ itself, and I think that's if we're gonna make a remote control, it should actually work for what it's doing. So Whitney Shoemaker: What about like batteries and things like that, like are there some remotes that don don't require like batteries or do all remotes require batteries? Cassandra Tarzia: Um I would imagine Elizabeth Perry: I know. Cassandra Tarzia: all of them, but we could but it's possible we could use like a lithium battery um Elizabeth Perry: Yeah, something Cassandra Tarzia: that Elizabeth Perry: that Cassandra Tarzia: would Elizabeth Perry: doesn't Cassandra Tarzia: last a lot longer than like Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: double A_s. Um like tho those are the batteries that are used in a lot of um M_P_ three players now and that kind of thing. Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: Um. Elizabeth Perry: Mm. Cassandra Tarzia: Um. Okay, it seems we have a little bit of a conflict over um to uh combining all the remotes cont together versus having f five different remotes. So um like you said you don't like having all the buttons on one on one remote, and yet you don't wanna have five remotes. So how Cynthia Tapia: Mm. Cassandra Tarzia: do we work Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Cassandra Tarzia: with that? Elizabeth Perry: Could we get something that just has No doesn't have all the buttons that you need to program the video recorder or program s other things that I'm not very coherent about, but that just has your major buttons for that work for everything, you know volume control, Cassandra Tarzia: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Perry: on, off, channel changing. Whitney Shoemaker: And maybe that spatially divides it, so it's like if you're looki if you're trying to get the T_V_ on that's, you know, like the top thing on the remote, I dunno if d be vertical or horizontal in terms Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Whitney Shoemaker: of how we're gonna make it, but if it's like all the T_V_ stuff was here, then all the V_C_R_ stuff was here, all the whatever else we Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Whitney Shoemaker: have programmed Elizabeth Perry: N that way Whitney Shoemaker: into it it's all just in its Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Whitney Shoemaker: separate place and not like all the on buttons together, 'cause then you like, I don't even know what I'm turning on. Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Elizabeth Perry: Yeah, and if um if you'd save the more complicated functions maybe for separate remotes that you wouldn't need to use every day. Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: Okay, so Elizabeth Perry: Um. Cassandra Tarzia: maybe have like one remote that has the main functions on, off, channel changing, volume, and another rote remote with all the special things. Because Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Cassandra Tarzia: that is one thing that um remotes tend to have buttons that the T_V_s no longer have as well. Elizabeth Perry: Mm. Cassandra Tarzia: So Cynthia Tapia: Yeah. Cassandra Tarzia: like you have to have them somewhere, 'cause you're gonna m need those special functions occasionally. Elizabeth Perry: Right. Cassandra Tarzia: Um but not necessarily on the m the normal remote. Cynthia Tapia: Can I ask, are we designing a remote control for a television only um, Cassandra Tarzia: Good question. Cynthia Tapia: and if if this device is just to be used for the television would we even technically be possible to include video recorder functions on it? Cassandra Tarzia: I don't know Cynthia Tapia: Um Cassandra Tarzia: that yet. Cynthia Tapia: or should we just stick to just stick to having television television related buttons on Elizabeth Perry: Mm. Cynthia Tapia: it? Cassandra Tarzia: It's a good question. Um. Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm Cassandra Tarzia: I'll look into Whitney Shoemaker: hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: that. If I can. Whitney Shoemaker: I think it's just T_V_, I mean, if it if we're taking it just new product a new television remote control that's not like doesn't say. Elizabeth Perry: Mm yeah. Whitney Shoemaker: You know, things might be more advanced than that. Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Cynthia Tapia: So we should maybe we should assume that i t it's just a television that we're wanting to control. Well, I mean I suppose it would be nice to have playing and record and stop buttons on it for the video recorder as well I I don't know if that works technologically or not. Elizabeth Perry: Yes. I guess we have to define what what we're aiming for. If it's just a television then that it's a bit simpler, 'cause there's less buttons that would even need to be on it. Cynthia Tapia: Yeah. Whitney Shoemaker: It's an idea with the buttons being really. Elizabeth Perry: Large. Whitney Shoemaker: Yeah. Elizabeth Perry: If you have older people or people like Whitney Shoemaker that aren't very co-ordinated hand-eye, it's really quite important that you are Cassandra Tarzia: Mm. Elizabeth Perry: not pressing a small like teeny mobiles phone size buttons, Cynthia Tapia: Yeah. Elizabeth Perry: if we can help it. Cassandra Tarzia: Okay. 'Kay sounds like we've had a good little discussion for our first ideas. Mind if we move on? Ps Cynthia Tapia: 'Kay. Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: mm okay. Um now our next meeting starts in thirty minutes. I believe we've actually been only working on this this one for about twenty, so we can Elizabeth Perry: Hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: continue discussing more new ideas if you'd like um, breakdown of what we'll be doing individually. Um the industrial design, Alima will Elizabeth Perry: Yeah. Cassandra Tarzia: be doing um the working design. Um Cynthia Tapia, that's for. Technical functions, I guess like keeping in mind the buttons thing, the size of the buttons. Um user requirements um, so you'll be hearing about different trends, uh about different things that people need, um I guess kind of the same uh discussion that we've been having, we'll Whitney Shoemaker: Mm-hmm. Cassandra Tarzia: get from the actual consum s consumers. Mm 'kay um. And you will get specific instructions sent by your personal coach. I realised in this past one we we didn't have much, we just wanted to get a little brain-storming done. Um so very exited to see all your animals and how what wonderful um artists we all are um. Any questions? Cynthia Tapia: What we're gonna be discussing at the next meeting? Do we know that? Cassandra Tarzia: I haven't gotten an agenda yet, um I'll put that together. I'm sure Cynthia Tapia: Right. Cassandra Tarzia: as we'll each get our own instruction and then um because what we gonna do is first our individual actions and then we'll come back together. Cynthia Tapia: Yep. Cassandra Tarzia: So I'm Elizabeth Perry: 'Kay. Cassandra Tarzia: sure we'll all have more concrete things to contribute next time Cynthia Tapia: Yep. Elizabeth Perry: I'm sure we'll be busy. Cassandra Tarzia: Mm 'kay um I'll type up mi minutes and probably email those out to all of you. Cynthia Tapia: Okay. Cassandra Tarzia: Um just including all the things that we talked about. Cynthia Tapia: Can Cassandra Tarzia: Um. Cynthia Tapia: you e-mail your slides as well? Is that possible? Cassandra Tarzia: Yes, I yes, I think I can. Mm-hmm. Cynthia Tapia: Cool. Cassandra Tarzia: I'll just attach it to an email. And you're you're number two, Elizabeth Perry: I'm two. Cassandra Tarzia: three, four? Whitney Shoemaker: I'm four. Cassandra Tarzia: Is that correct? Okay. Elizabeth Perry: Alright. Cassandra Tarzia: Excellent. It was lovely meeting you all. Cynthia Tapia: 'Kay Cassandra Tarzia: Just make sure you keep checking the company web site and the emails. Elizabeth Perry: 'Kay. Cassandra Tarzia: Let Whitney Shoemaker see if I can do that right now.

Cassandra Tarzia opened the meeting and introduced herself to the team. Cassandra Tarzia introduced the upcoming project in which the team is to create a remote control. The team members participated in a tool training exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal on the white-board and discussed why they liked the animal. Cassandra Tarzia then talked about the project finances and discussed selling prices, profit aim, market range, and production costs. Cassandra Tarzia then led the team in a discussion on their experiences with remotes and what features they would like to include in the remote they are producing. The team members discussed the option of combining remotes and how to produce a remote which is capable of controlling multiple devices.

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Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: Mm yeah. Anna Bauer: Okay. I g yeah. Time it? Dana Jackson: Fourteen twenty six. Anna Bauer: Okay. Lovely to see you all again. Um it's our conceptual design meeting and it's starting at approximately fourteen twenty five and so we have forty minutes for this one again and so we'll go just after three o'clock. Um okay our agenda, we're gonna do an opening, I'm gonna review the minutes of the last meeting, then we'll have your three presentations um and then we'll have to make a decision on the remote control concepts, and we'll close. Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Anna Bauer: So opening. Um these are our minutes from r the functional design. We decided our target group is the focus on who can afford it, because we have international appeal and we said it's for all age groups, different um functions of it. Our main objectives were simplicity and fashion. And s um in specific functions are something to keep the remote from getting lost, large buttons for the essential functions, a possibility for extra functions, like a sliding a sliding piece and a long-life battery or a charging station. Okay, now three presentations. I'd like to do it in this order, first do the conceptual specification of components, properties and materials um Jasmine Tafolla: That would be Dana Jackson. Anna Bauer: and then the conceptual specification of user interface Monica Stallins: Yep. Anna Bauer: and finally trend watching. Jasmine Tafolla: Alright. Well. Anna Bauer: Mm. 'kay. Anna Bauer: Function F_ eight it. There we go. Jasmine Tafolla: Alright. Um I'm very excited by this one actually guys I uh had a lot of fun doing it. Components design. This is where you look at what does it take to make a remote control and what should we make our specific remote control out of. Um. So, we need to examine each element separately, but we're designing a full thing, so you wanna keep it integrated as a whole. The main elements of remote controls in general, and therefore ours as well, are the case, the buttons, the circuit board with the chip and the battery. These are all things that we had sort of addressed before, but I'm gonna take each one a little bit separately here as we figure out what they should be made of and what they should look like. The case, uh the options that I've gotten from headquarters about what we can do, um there's there's the shape of a case, we could do a flat sh a flat case, a curved case or maybe even a double double-curved case. I haven't seen any pictures of what this exactly looks like yet, just keep that in mind, but these are the options that we have from manufacturing and we can make our case out of plastic, the m the main base will be plastic, but we have all these sort of fashion and technological elements we can add in, wood, latex, titanium, rubber or other coloured types of plastic. That would be our case. Um buttons, for buttons we have um pushbuttons, which is what Real Reaction uses the most often, but we also have scror scroll wheels, which can Anna Bauer: Mm. Jasmine Tafolla: have integrated pushbuttons, or we could go all high-tech and have an L_ L_C_D_ screen. Um circuit board and chip we can have a simple one, a regular one or an advanced one, depending on what our other needs are. And then battery I think is where things get most exciting. We're talking about long-life batteries here. Um we can we can have your sort of basic double A_ batteries, but we also have these options of um using a kinetic battery, like are used in high-tech watches, where you just have to move it a little bit to get it to power up. Um so simple movements like pushing buttons would recharge the battery. Or a solar battery, although there are slight um complications with solar batteries as in we can't use a latex case if we have a solar battery. Anna Bauer: Hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: Or um something they only described as the type of battery you find in torches from about fifty years ago, flashlights. Not quite sure what that is, but that's the description that I received, so that's what I'm passing on to you. So those are our options. Um personal preferences that I was thinking through here's what we've been talking about all through, fashion and simplicity. So if we're going for fashion in our cases, I think that what we're gonna wanna look at is a curved or a double-curved case, probably with a variety of design elements. Maybe titanium, maybe some wood. We're gonna have to investigate that better when I get specifics of the actual materials, but that's sort of what I have in mind. And we wanna go for simplicity. Probably pushbuttons, but I'm sort of intrigued by the idea of a scroll scroll Anna Bauer: Mm. Jasmine Tafolla: wheel, if anyone has anything any ideas on that? I mean I know the iPods and things right now have touch scroll um buttons which are exactly like what they're describing, so that might be something we wanna look into. And I'm really intrigued by the idea of a kinetic battery. Solar I don't think would be such a good idea, because how often are you sure that your remote control will get a certain amount of light. But this idea of the kinetic, that you don't have to replace, and that a simple just shaking it around will make it work, I think that that m would be a very interesting thing. But I think we'd also wanna go for e a simple chip or regular chip to keep our costs down. Uh we really only need a regular or advanced chip t if we're gonna start using an L_C_D_. So I think we want to be aware of not making things overly t technological if they don't need to be, 'cause that'll keep our manufacturing price way down. That's what I have for options. Um I'd appreciate anyone's input, but that's what I'm seeing for the future of the the look of this thing. Dana Jackson: Is double-curved like would be like two hands kind of thing? Jasmine Tafolla: I'm not sure. I haven't received any specific Dana Jackson: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: visuals Dana Jackson: 'Cause I'm Jasmine Tafolla: of Dana Jackson: imagining Jasmine Tafolla: this yet. Dana Jackson: like double-curved is like, you know, like two sides that curve Jasmine Tafolla: This is Dana Jackson: and Jasmine Tafolla: what Dana Jackson: then like Jasmine Tafolla: I'm sort Dana Jackson: one Jasmine Tafolla: of Dana Jackson: curve would just be like a single vertical-ish kind of looking Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: thing, but I've Jasmine Tafolla: I'm Dana Jackson: no idea. Jasmine Tafolla: not sure, but I'll let you know as soon as I get any pictures. Dana Jackson: Sounds good. Anna Bauer: Yeah, I wonder Jasmine Tafolla: I know if we do have a double-curved case, it can't have any titanium in it. But the titanium, they were quite they're marketing quite hard to us as being used in the space programme, so that could be quite interesting. Space-age remote. Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: Just all things Anna Bauer: Just Jasmine Tafolla: to Anna Bauer: an interesting Jasmine Tafolla: keep in mind. Anna Bauer: marketing kind of Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: element. Jasmine Tafolla: That's about all I have to do, guys. quickly. Anna Bauer: Uh just a real quick question um the weight of these different elements, Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Anna Bauer: have Jasmine Tafolla: n Anna Bauer: you Jasmine Tafolla: no Anna Bauer: no Jasmine Tafolla: idea, Anna Bauer: idea, okay. Jasmine Tafolla: no idea. Um I'm assuming that a kinetic battery isn't gonna take up that much weight, Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: and that a tita titanium is very light, I know, Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: um but other than that's really basic, I mean, that's all I have gotten so far. Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: Alright? Any other questions? Monica Stallins: Uh-huh. Don't think so. Jasmine Tafolla: No? Okay. Anna Bauer: Mm 'kay. Jasmine Tafolla: I have save this in the uh shared projects, if anyone wants to look Anna Bauer: Thank you, perfect. Jasmine Tafolla: and Dana Jackson: Thanks. Jasmine Tafolla: I have c considerable notes on the topic as well, if anyone needs any more information. Uh Anna Bauer: Um if you made notes yourself you can put those on our um underneath our Jasmine Tafolla: Just in Anna Bauer: oh, Jasmine Tafolla: my notebook, Anna Bauer: uh in your book, then don't worry about Jasmine Tafolla: but if Anna Bauer: that. Jasmine Tafolla: anyone has any specific questions, don't hesitate to email Dana Jackson or something. Alright? Uh I guess I can Anna Bauer: 'Kay now we're um concepts concepts of user interface. Yeah, um. This one's so much tighter than the other one. Jasmine Tafolla: I know. Anna Bauer: Okay. Nope. There we go. Here you are. Monica Stallins: Jess. Jasmine Tafolla: G oh, geez. Monica Stallins: Alright, so I'm gonna describe the the concept of the user interface of this des device. Um we've talked about uh the two essential properties of the user interface. We want it to be simple and we want it to be fashionable. Um other we've also got to remember that this is a device that serves as a useful purpose. Uh we want people to be able to use it s as a remote control, so we need determine what the essential functions of the d of the device are and make sure that we include that we've included all of those and that we actually end up with a device that is going to be useful to people. We have a number of different choices for a design concept um and s that's that's something that that I'll show you some examples of um, but essentially we need to choose how how is this device going to work, how how what kind of model is there going to be for user interaction with this device. Uh once we've chosen a a concept for it, we can then design the features around the concept, making sure that we get all the essential functions in the device and uh the extra functions and the more advanced features. And of course we also have to make it look cool. So basically, that's what we don't want. M we don't want lots of buttons, uh complicated features. We want something that looks nice and simple. Here's a Jasmine Tafolla: Hmm. Monica Stallins: a fairly simple device. This is an an iPod from Apple. Um I think the main thing to notice about it is it just has four buttons. It's very minimalistic in its design. Uh you use these four buttons to m to move around a range of settings on the small L_C_D_ screen. Um the thing I like about this is that it's very very quick to access the main features. Uh you can just about make out uh that the button three buttons are uh previous track, next track and play pause. They're the main the main features of the iPod, the things you will use a all the time. Um then if you want to do anything more advanced, you go into the little menu on the L_C_D_ screen and you use the buttons just to scroll around and and find the more advanced features that you want. So I think that's that's a good a good kind of model that we could have. Um here's a another example. This is uh it's an interesting idea and I think i it looks pretty cool. Um it's certainly got novelty value. Uh Anna Bauer: Mm. Monica Stallins: it's nice and colourful, it's nice and bright. Uh it's also something that you can kind of feel your way around. The buttons are are different shapes and and you can sort of yeah if you're watching T_V_ in the dark or whatever, you can work out which button's which and basically, yeah it's ith it's fun. So I I like I like this idea of just having buttons for the features that you use most often. So you'd need a few buttons to select your favourite channels. I mean most people, when they watch T_V_, they have two hundred and fifty channels on their T_V_ and they watch of 'bout four of them at the most. So, you have buttons for your favourite channel, changing the volume, which is something you do all the time when you're watching T_V_, and the button to switch it off, in case you get bored. Um other features, things like adjusting the brightness, tuning the T_V_, uh I don't know what else you do with a T_V_. Um but these are these are all necessary functions. Uh you can't have a t there's no point having a television that you can't tune or that you can't set the contrast, so we need to find a way of including these somehow. Um and one other suggestions I'd make is to in is to include in a menu system, a bit like on the iPod. So we'd either have a small L_C_D_ display on the device itself, or uh have a dis a menu display that comes up on your television and can b be controlled through the device. Jasmine Tafolla: Hmm. Monica Stallins: And that would allow you to access access the advanced features uh whilst keeping a very small and simple set of buttons for the features that you use most often. Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: So you'd be advocating an L_C_D_ then? Monica Stallins: I think that's that's one way to go, yes. Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Monica Stallins: Um I mean there are there are advantages and disadvantages if you if you have an L_C_D_ display, it's it's nice, because it's it it lets you just sort of sit there and st and control your television from your armchair. Jasmine Tafolla: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: There are disadvantages, an an L_C_D_ display would have to be quite small, 'cause we're Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Monica Stallins: we're I well we're I assume we're gonna be making quite a small device. Um it would also have to have uh a kind of backlighting in it, 'cause you ten you tend to watch Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: T_V_ in the dark, Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Monica Stallins: but you need to be able to see your L_D_D_ L_C_D_ display. The alternative is to have a an on-screen display on your television that you control through your remote control. Uh have these um digital boxes where you you press the buttons and it comes up with your this thing of watch lo what's Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: on each channel. I mean Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Monica Stallins: that that's also a good idea. It's it can it does have it's problems as well, if you've got a small T_V_ and you're sitting on the other Anna Bauer: Mm. Monica Stallins: side of a room, it's hard to read the little text that comes up. Jasmine Tafolla: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: Uh but that's a that's a design decision that we can make. Jasmine Tafolla: 'Kay. Anna Bauer: I do think that um one of the important features for a remote is seeing a menu and seeing what's on. Um Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: and so like favourite channels is is applicable, but I think th that you do need to have some kind of function where it's um you have t you can see Jasmine Tafolla: Well Anna Bauer: the title of the show or possibly a description of it. Jasmine Tafolla: Are you Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Like Jasmine Tafolla: are you Anna Bauer: I Jasmine Tafolla: tak Anna Bauer: I know I use Dana Jackson: Wait, Anna Bauer: that Dana Jackson: but is Anna Bauer: often Dana Jackson: that separate Anna Bauer: enough. Dana Jackson: from what he was saying? Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Well if it if it was a L_ L_C_D_ on th on the remote, I don't know that you could f that you'd Jasmine Tafolla: No, Anna Bauer: be able to Jasmine Tafolla: I Anna Bauer: see Jasmine Tafolla: think Anna Bauer: a Jasmine Tafolla: I think we're talking menu like contrast and Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: tuning the V_C_R_ or something if I've understood you correctly, Monica Stallins: Yeah, that Jasmine Tafolla: rather than Monica Stallins: that Jasmine Tafolla: menu Monica Stallins: would be one Jasmine Tafolla: as Monica Stallins: of the Jasmine Tafolla: what's Monica Stallins: features, Jasmine Tafolla: on. Monica Stallins: yes. Anna Bauer: Okay. Monica Stallins: But it's Anna Bauer: 'Cause that would Monica Stallins: it's Anna Bauer: be more specifically Monica Stallins: it's Anna Bauer: a Monica Stallins: something Anna Bauer: digital Monica Stallins: to bear Anna Bauer: box, Monica Stallins: in mind is that Anna Bauer: mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: if we put a display on the remote control the c uh communication is one way, so you can't have the televisions and information back to the remote control, Jasmine Tafolla: Oh, Monica Stallins: at Jasmine Tafolla: good Monica Stallins: least Jasmine Tafolla: point. Monica Stallins: I Anna Bauer: Mm. Monica Stallins: don't think you can. Um I'm not sure. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Okay, now Dana Jackson: Should Anna Bauer: we're Dana Jackson: I plug Anna Bauer: moving Dana Jackson: that Anna Bauer: on Dana Jackson: in? Anna Bauer: to market. Marketing. Monica Stallins: Is that going on? Okay. Dana Jackson: Maybe it's just not Monica Stallins: Uh that should Dana Jackson: Is it Monica Stallins: be Dana Jackson: on? Monica Stallins: alright, actually. Dana Jackson: Ri What F_ do you have to press, five? Anna Bauer: Eight. Dana Jackson: I just keep pressing lots of 'em. Well, I don't know how relevant all of this gonna be. If anything, the that they gave Dana Jackson. Jasmine Tafolla: No Anna Bauer: Oops, Jasmine Tafolla: signal. Anna Bauer: it's not plugged in, quite Dana Jackson: Alright. Anna Bauer: in well enough. There we are. Jasmine Tafolla: Oop, there we go. Anna Bauer: Mm 'kay. Dana Jackson: Oh yeah. Okay, so we're gonna look a little bit at trend watching. Basically, I was given um an executive summary that was a market investigation on remote controls that was recently conducted, and then also some fashion watchers in Paris and Milan commented on some things that are gonna be going on this year. So first um they had people they ranked um the important aspects of r remote controls, and right now i d they're saying that currently there's a functional look and feel preference, but that really, over the next year it it that's gonna be switching to fancy look and feel remotes, so that just goes back to the whole desire of our c Real Reaction company wanting to focus on fashion and so, even though we're stressing, when we're talking, we've all been talking about this like simplicity and easy to use idea, they're sort of wanting us to remember that the number one thing for everyone is that it's fancy look and feel. And as these are ranked, the top one is doubly important to the second one, which is doubly important to the third one, so Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Dana Jackson: just to take that weight into account. The second thing that was mentioned as important was the technological innovations. That would be like if we use something like the space material or the L_C_D_ screen, things like that. And then ease of use was the third most important, whi so really, no matter what, we need to focus the most on fancy look and feel, according to this. I don't know how much we agree with that. And then the fashion watch talks about that this year's top trend for clothes, shoes and furniture is fruits and vegetables and tha that there's a preference Anna Bauer: S sweet. Dana Jackson: for spongy, tight material. And so that brings us to my personal preferences. Who wants a spongy remote or one with fruit and vegetable padding. Personally, I don't really think that I want one that's gonna go out of style or go stale, excuse the pun, um in a year, so even though this is coming from us as, you know, trend watch, market research, I don't know how much of it we necessarily wanna take away. Also, considering that the d research b has been carried out by Real Reaction, I'm a little hesitant as to like, how these questions may have been worded, and if necessarily this whole fashion to technology y edas ease of use is necessarily the right ranking. Personally, like I might reverse it, but if we're working for this company then I guess no matter what, we have to stress fashion the most. But it Jasmine Tafolla: Mm. Dana Jackson: doesn't necessarily need to be a spongy material. Jasmine Tafolla: That there's all kinds of scope for imagination in that one though. Dana Jackson: Yeah. I don't have a lot of notes to share if you want them, that pretty much sums it up. So yeah. Anna Bauer: Okay, do we have any s some questions for this, let's Dana Jackson: Yeah, Anna Bauer: see um. Dana Jackson: what can I possibly enlighten on? Anna Bauer: Um do you have any ideas how to possibly use these? Um how to how to use a fruit or vegetable or um or the spongy material at all? Like could we make a s like could we make a spongy remote? It would be easier Jasmine Tafolla: If Anna Bauer: on Jasmine Tafolla: it's Anna Bauer: the hands. Jasmine Tafolla: latex if it's latexy Anna Bauer: It's kind of Jasmine Tafolla: Um, Anna Bauer: and then it Jasmine Tafolla: mean Monica Stallins: A kind of Anna Bauer: we Monica Stallins: thing Anna Bauer: would have to Monica Stallins: that Anna Bauer: find a way to protect like the chip and all that, I dunno. Jasmine Tafolla: An Anna Bauer: But Jasmine Tafolla: uh I if th my understanding of a latex case is that it's in fact hard to protect stuff inside, but that Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: it's covered with the latex, which is spongier and softer on your hands. It's there's something to be said, I mean we we got that thing earlier from you about um not wanting it to R_ R_ repetitive stress injuries Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: and Dana Jackson: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: things Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: and and Yeah, Dana Jackson: Yeah, so something, m Jasmine Tafolla: something Dana Jackson: m instead of Jasmine Tafolla: grippable, Dana Jackson: a necess Jasmine Tafolla: I mean Dana Jackson: yeah, Jasmine Tafolla: we don't Dana Jackson: grip, Jasmine Tafolla: we don't Dana Jackson: I'm thinking Jasmine Tafolla: we don't wanna go Dana Jackson: grip Jasmine Tafolla: spongy, Dana Jackson: more than Jasmine Tafolla: maybe. Dana Jackson: like sinking into your hands, Monica Stallins: Yeah. Dana Jackson: you know, i and I Monica Stallins: Yeah. Dana Jackson: think I'm envisioning more like, Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: you know, the material that you have when you sit on like a bicycle, so Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Dana Jackson: that it doesn't hurt when Jasmine Tafolla: Mm-hmm. Dana Jackson: you're sitting down for a long time, like I'm imagining that sort of thing, I don't know what th that Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Dana Jackson: material's Jasmine Tafolla: I think Dana Jackson: called. Jasmine Tafolla: that given the list of materials I w I was forwarded it's that seems doable. could we go in fruit and vegetable colours? We could colour-co-ordinate Anna Bauer: F for Jasmine Tafolla: them, Anna Bauer: sure, or maybe Jasmine Tafolla: li Anna Bauer: like um couple main ones being like, I dunno, lemons or strawberries or something. Jasmine Tafolla: The buttons could be fruit-shaped. Anna Bauer: Could they be smelly? Monica Stallins: I Jasmine Tafolla: Oh Dana Jackson: Oh God. Monica Stallins: Is it supposed to be shaped like a vegetable? Uh Anna Bauer: I Monica Stallins: like Anna Bauer: don't Monica Stallins: uh Anna Bauer: know. Monica Stallins: I dunno, like uh carrots or something. Jasmine Tafolla: well it's Anna Bauer: Or Jasmine Tafolla: quite easy Anna Bauer: carrot Jasmine Tafolla: to s Anna Bauer: shaped, Jasmine Tafolla: shape thing Anna Bauer: mm. Jasmine Tafolla: like carrot isn't it? Monica Stallins: Maybe, Jasmine Tafolla: Or maybe the Monica Stallins: or Jasmine Tafolla: buttons could be shaped Anna Bauer: Like large Jasmine Tafolla: like different Anna Bauer: button, Jasmine Tafolla: fruits. Anna Bauer: that's what I was thinking of, yeah. Dana Jackson: What about the idea of like a round remote? Instead of like a vertical up and down one. Like Monica Stallins: Kind Dana Jackson: in Monica Stallins: of Dana Jackson: terms Monica Stallins: like a Dana Jackson: of Monica Stallins: potato. Dana Jackson: holding it. Like that's a f shape Jasmine Tafolla: be yeah. Dana Jackson: of a fruit. Jasmine Tafolla: It'd Dana Jackson: Just Anna Bauer: Might Dana Jackson: to Anna Bauer: would you Dana Jackson: tie Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: think you Dana Jackson: it Anna Bauer: you Dana Jackson: in a little. Anna Bauer: do you think you'd be able to hold it? 'Cause I think the reason they're long Jasmine Tafolla: be harder Anna Bauer: is Jasmine Tafolla: to f bu uh buttons Anna Bauer: yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: I think. It'd be harder to press Monica Stallins: Depends. Jasmine Tafolla: button. Anna Bauer: Harder to push. Monica Stallins: When you when you use a remote, do you press the buttons with your thumb, usually? Dana Jackson: Yeah. Monica Stallins: Or your fingers? Jasmine Tafolla: Um Anna Bauer: I usually hold it in one hand. Maybe Monica Stallins: Or maybe Jasmine Tafolla: I Monica Stallins: you want something that's shaped like a mobile phone, so you you hold it in one hand, and you press the buttons Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Anna Bauer: But then Monica Stallins: with Anna Bauer: the buttons Monica Stallins: your thumb. Anna Bauer: would Jasmine Tafolla: that's Anna Bauer: have to be very small. Jasmine Tafolla: ts how I tend to do it. Dana Jackson: Yeah, Anna Bauer: Don't Dana Jackson: 'cause Anna Bauer: you think? Jasmine Tafolla: No Dana Jackson: otherwise Jasmine Tafolla: just Dana Jackson: your Jasmine Tafolla: thumb-sized. Dana Jackson: fingers can't move around. Jasmine Tafolla: Jus Dana Jackson: But Anna Bauer: But Dana Jackson: I like Anna Bauer: I mean Dana Jackson: i Anna Bauer: in order to get to all of them, Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: you know. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: They would have to be within Monica Stallins: Maybe. Anna Bauer: a certain amount Jasmine Tafolla: That's Anna Bauer: of Monica Stallins: But Jasmine Tafolla: true. Anna Bauer: space Monica Stallins: if you've only Anna Bauer: with Monica Stallins: got Anna Bauer: each other. Monica Stallins: like four or five buttons anyway, then it's it's not Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Monica Stallins: so much a problem, perhaps. Jasmine Tafolla: I When I'm when I'm pressing buttons on my iPod, that's how I do it, hold it and press Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: the Monica Stallins: So Jasmine Tafolla: four. Monica Stallins: you hold it in one hand Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Monica Stallins: and you press you press the buttons Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: with Jasmine Tafolla: or Monica Stallins: your thumb Jasmine Tafolla: in and use Monica Stallins: and Jasmine Tafolla: my thumb or my pointer finger on the touch scroll wheel. Monica Stallins: And Dana Jackson: I Monica Stallins: you find Dana Jackson: love Monica Stallins: that works Dana Jackson: the idea Monica Stallins: quite well? Dana Jackson: of the Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Dana Jackson: wheel like the iPod. Monica Stallins: Is Dana Jackson: 'Cause Monica Stallins: that Dana Jackson: th Monica Stallins: The button on an iPod, is it what is it, is it just four buttons or is it Dana Jackson: It's Monica Stallins: li Dana Jackson: like Monica Stallins: more Dana Jackson: five, Monica Stallins: like Anna Bauer: It's a Monica Stallins: a Anna Bauer: scroll, Monica Stallins: scroll Dana Jackson: 'cause Monica Stallins: thing? Dana Jackson: there's Jasmine Tafolla: It Anna Bauer: yeah, Dana Jackson: one Jasmine Tafolla: wel Anna Bauer: it's Dana Jackson: in the Anna Bauer: a Dana Jackson: middle. Anna Bauer: wheel. Jasmine Tafolla: well yeah, it would I mean each version of it has been a little bit different, Anna Bauer: The one I have Jasmine Tafolla: but Anna Bauer: doesn't have the four on i like Jasmine Tafolla: Oh yeah, Anna Bauer: around Jasmine Tafolla: you had Anna Bauer: it, Jasmine Tafolla: one Anna Bauer: I don't Jasmine Tafolla: of the Anna Bauer: think. Jasmine Tafolla: in-between ones, when they weren't doing that anymore. Jasmine Tafolla: Ts Monica Stallins: Right. Jasmine Tafolla: and you press the centre button, that's that's Monica Stallins: Oh, Jasmine Tafolla: your all-purpose Monica Stallins: I see, Jasmine Tafolla: select Monica Stallins: right, yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: button right there. Monica Stallins: Oh, okay. Jasmine Tafolla: Since it's the Monica Stallins: Yeah, Jasmine Tafolla: one Monica Stallins: that's Jasmine Tafolla: in the Monica Stallins: quite Jasmine Tafolla: centre Monica Stallins: a good Jasmine Tafolla: that's Monica Stallins: design. Jasmine Tafolla: not marked, yeah. Dana Jackson: I think why it would be good for us is 'cause like you could have the same wheel sort of effect for like channel flipping and then the other Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: one could be like for volume. Like just the idea of like those so few buttons Jasmine Tafolla: Uh Dana Jackson: for main Jasmine Tafolla: uh t Dana Jackson: things, but then how you could go back to the menu and like, I dunno if we would want it on the screen there or on the actual T_V_. I kind of am wanting Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: to say on the T_V_, 'cause if you're changing Jasmine Tafolla: Hmm. Dana Jackson: the brightness, don't you wanna see it happening, kind Anna Bauer: Mm. Dana Jackson: of? Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: And then Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, I Dana Jackson: you Jasmine Tafolla: think Dana Jackson: could still Jasmine Tafolla: an Dana Jackson: have Jasmine Tafolla: L_C_D_ Dana Jackson: that available. Jasmine Tafolla: screen might be good in theory, but not as useful Monica Stallins: I think Jasmine Tafolla: in Monica Stallins: it Jasmine Tafolla: practice. Monica Stallins: could be difficult in practice, yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Monica Stallins: Also z yeah, 'cause you would be z looking down at the L_C_D_ screen, than Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Monica Stallins: back up at your T_V_ and Dana Jackson: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: people Jasmine Tafolla: Um Monica Stallins: don't wanna do that. Anna Bauer: Okay um Jasmine Tafolla: Oh we Anna Bauer: we Jasmine Tafolla: probably have Anna Bauer: have Jasmine Tafolla: to get going, don't Anna Bauer: we've Jasmine Tafolla: we? Anna Bauer: about fifteen minutes left, so I'm I'm gonna Dana Jackson: Uh-huh. Anna Bauer: continue with my pres presentation. Um I've one more slide before we close, but in that slide is when we need to make decisions about this these kinds of things, so I'll just Jasmine Tafolla: 'Kay. Anna Bauer: bring that up and show you all before we move on. Um Dana Jackson: If I get Jasmine Tafolla: Could Dana Jackson: any more information of fruits and vegetables, Jasmine Tafolla: Could we Dana Jackson: I'll let Jasmine Tafolla: uh Dana Jackson: you know. Jasmine Tafolla: could we have changeable covers like for your mobile? Monica Stallins: Like, Jasmine Tafolla: In different Monica Stallins: to Jasmine Tafolla: fruit Monica Stallins: make Jasmine Tafolla: and Monica Stallins: it Jasmine Tafolla: vegetable Monica Stallins: different fruits. Jasmine Tafolla: colours, yeah. Monica Stallins: Yeah, it's possible. Anna Bauer: Yeah, and then like the the covers could be spongy latex Jasmine Tafolla: Exactly. Anna Bauer: wherea but the actual model could be titanium. Jasmine Tafolla: And you could co-ordinate with your house or whatever. Monica Stallins: I Jasmine Tafolla: All Monica Stallins: think Jasmine Tafolla: these Monica Stallins: maybe Jasmine Tafolla: options. Monica Stallins: th the packaging, it should be like a lemon and the the packaging is like the peel. So Jasmine Tafolla: Ooh. Monica Stallins: instead of opening the box you just kind of peel it, and the remote control's inside. Dana Jackson: Well, there we Jasmine Tafolla: Oh. Dana Jackson: go. Monica Stallins: Don't know. Anna Bauer: Ah hmm Dana Jackson: The Anna Bauer: hmm Dana Jackson: iPod packaging Anna Bauer: hmm. Dana Jackson: is Dana Jackson like was so that was like half the fun. It's Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: like the way it all comes all cute. Jasmine Tafolla: Mm. Dana Jackson: Lemons? Jasmine Tafolla: Options. Anna Bauer: Okay, um components concept. Energy, chip Jasmine Tafolla: Uh-hu oh, Anna Bauer: on print. Jasmine Tafolla: oh yes. Right, Anna Bauer: G Jasmine Tafolla: I had sort of skipped over that hoping it wouldn't get be necessary but um Anna Bauer: That's th th this is the agenda they gave Dana Jackson. So Jasmine Tafolla: Alright, Anna Bauer: can you just explain Jasmine Tafolla: so Anna Bauer: what that Jasmine Tafolla: um Anna Bauer: is real quick? Jasmine Tafolla: decisions, what the okay deci decisions on energy I'm thinking is based on the battery. Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: Um I dunno, what do people think about this kinetic battery idea? Anna Bauer: I think it's awesome. I Jasmine Tafolla: Am Anna Bauer: think Jasmine Tafolla: I Anna Bauer: it's really cool. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: Yeah, I mean, it would t totally take care of our problem of not wanting to change batteries. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Monica Stallins: Yeah, um I think it's good, as as long as we consider the the cost and the uh how reliable it is, but Jasmine Tafolla: Right, Monica Stallins: as far Jasmine Tafolla: I haven't Monica Stallins: as I know, Jasmine Tafolla: gotten Monica Stallins: the technology Jasmine Tafolla: any Monica Stallins: is good. Dana Jackson: Costs. Jasmine Tafolla: yeah, any more information on cost other than it's more expensive than a regular battery, but um Dana Jackson: But over time Jasmine Tafolla: but if we're using a an i a cheaper chip, then it'll even out, I think. Um circuit boards. Um yeah, I got a whole bunch of information on how circuit boards are produced. They're they're thin fibreglass with copper wires etched on to them, and di I think they're quite easily printed on by machine, which is chip on print is where the machine prints on the wires and solders it all together for us. I don't really know what to tell you as far as decisions. I wasn't really given any options, I was just given that this is how they're done. Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: Um yeah, I can't can't really tell you. I can I can tell you a whole lot about how it works. But I don't know any decisions on Anna Bauer: If they're if they're really options. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. I'm sorry, I did Anna Bauer: Okay. Monica Stallins: Al Jasmine Tafolla: f Monica Stallins: all circuit boards are pretty much the same, I think. Uh it's fairly fairly standard. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: then we'll move on to the case. Um oh bu I guess maybe if we decided on like a simple, a regular, or an advanced Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Anna Bauer: chip, Jasmine Tafolla: Well Anna Bauer: maybe. Jasmine Tafolla: okay, here's the here's the thing on the chips that I that I got. Um simple, regular, advanced chip on print. The chip on print includes an infrared sensor, so we don't have to worry about that. Um, 'kay, the pushbutton if we're gonna have pushbuttons, they require a simple chip, but a scroll wheel requires a regular chip, and an L_C_D_ requires advanced. Do we want a scroll wheel, or do we just want pushbuttons? Monica Stallins: Um I don't think we ne really need the scroll whe wheel. I mean it might be nice for changing the volume. Jasmine Tafolla: Oh. Anna Bauer: It would Monica Stallins: Uh Anna Bauer: be nice for changing Monica Stallins: but Anna Bauer: the volume, but I don't know how useful it'd be for changing the channel. Monica Stallins: I don't Anna Bauer: 'Cause Monica Stallins: think Anna Bauer: you Monica Stallins: it Anna Bauer: don't Monica Stallins: would Dana Jackson: Yeah, Anna Bauer: have Dana Jackson: it's Monica Stallins: really Anna Bauer: control Monica Stallins: work. Dana Jackson: a Anna Bauer: over numbers or Monica Stallins: Yeah, you Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Monica Stallins: really need buttons Jasmine Tafolla: th Monica Stallins: for Jasmine Tafolla: it'd Monica Stallins: changing Jasmine Tafolla: be Monica Stallins: a channel. Jasmine Tafolla: it'd be handy for going through if there was an on-screen menu of your channel choices, Dana Jackson: But Jasmine Tafolla: than Dana Jackson: if Jasmine Tafolla: you Dana Jackson: you Jasmine Tafolla: can Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: scroll Dana Jackson: c if you Jasmine Tafolla: down Dana Jackson: could scroll Jasmine Tafolla: on the scroll. Dana Jackson: through the channels, and then Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: the volume would just Anna Bauer: We have Dana Jackson: be Anna Bauer: five minutes left for the meeting, so. Dana Jackson: and the volume would just be like the same way, Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: forward and backward as I'm just thinking like it would make it much like sleeker sort of looking. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Dana Jackson: And Monica Stallins: Yeah. Dana Jackson: otherwise, no matter how may buttons we have, we're gonna have like, you know, black with red sticking out and th no it's gonna inevitably sort of start looking like Monica Stallins: Yeah. Dana Jackson: those group of sort of ugly ones that we saw stacked up. Jasmine Tafolla: Hmm. Anna Bauer: So, have a scroll for volume? Jasmine Tafolla: F or for all those secret Anna Bauer: F Jasmine Tafolla: functions? When you get on the on-screen menu of all your functions that your remote could do for you without the buttons and you could have a scroll wheel to go through those menus. Monica Stallins: I think yeah, I think a scroll wheel would be nice, but it's not necessary. Jasmine Tafolla: Right. Monica Stallins: Um Jasmine Tafolla: So we could either go with a simple or a regular chip, depending and maybe we could table that decision for later. Anna Bauer: Um. Jasmine Tafolla: I don't know. Anna Bauer: I think w well I think when we go on to the une userface, we're gonna have to decide the interface we're gonna have to decide Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Anna Bauer: um whether we're gonna have a scroll or not. Jasmine Tafolla: Well, let's think about that while we talk about the case. Anna Bauer: Okay, let's do case. Jasmine Tafolla: Uh I'm kinda liking the idea of latex, if if spongy Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: is the in thing. Anna Bauer: I'm a little um I'm a little hesitant about it, because I'm worried about protecting the stuff on the inside. Jasmine Tafolla: Okay. Anna Bauer: Um Dana Jackson: Oh could it be hard, and then Jasmine Tafolla: Uh yeah, Dana Jackson: something around Jasmine Tafolla: everything Dana Jackson: it? Jasmine Tafolla: I've Anna Bauer: Yeah, I would be more okay with like a titanium actual thing and then maybe Jasmine Tafolla: N oh Anna Bauer: like Jasmine Tafolla: wha Anna Bauer: a mobile phone Jasmine Tafolla: what I've Anna Bauer: kind of thing. Jasmine Tafolla: what I've seen, just not related to this, Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: but of latex cases before, is that there's uh like a hard plastic inside, and it's just covered with the latex. Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: Not too thick a layer Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Jasmine Tafolla: of latex, just enough to be grippable, Anna Bauer: Okay. Jasmine Tafolla: like bike handles or or anything that you've seen like that. The inside is hard. I don't think we need to worry about protecting Anna Bauer: Ge o Jasmine Tafolla: the circuit board, I think that that's done for us. Anna Bauer: Okay. Monica Stallins: 'Kay. Yeah. Anna Bauer: So we uh we do want latex. Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Okay. Latex. Um and probably in colours, maybe fruity, vegetable colours. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Fruity colours. Okay um let's go to the ufe user interface then we'll come back to the chip I suppose. Jasmine Tafolla: Oh and we want a curved case, yeah? Or a double-curved? Anna Bauer: Well, we don't really know what the difference is, right? Dana Jackson: I'm thinking curved of some sort. Anna Bauer: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: okay. We don't really know what the difference Anna Bauer: Um okay, interface, the type and the supplements. So Monica Stallins: Um Anna Bauer: push or scroll, right? Monica Stallins: Yep. Anna Bauer: Or both? Monica Stallins: Um And I think if we wanna keep our costs down, we should just go for pushbuttons, 'cause then we can have a a simple chip and it's simpler, it's it's cheaper to make pushbuttons than it is a scroll button. Jasmine Tafolla: Good point. Monica Stallins: So in terms Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: of uh in terms of uh economics it's probably better to have pushbuttons. Anna Bauer: And if we had a sc an on-screen um kind of thing that you could scroll through, like you can use your buttons to scroll through things. Monica Stallins: Yeah, yeah, it's uh Anna Bauer: I think Monica Stallins: it's Anna Bauer: that Monica Stallins: it's fairly simple. Anna Bauer: yeah. For channel surfing I think a scroll an actual like an iPod's kind of scroll thing would be too fast, Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: I dunno. Jasmine Tafolla: I say pushbuttons at least unless we get any information but I have no idea how much more expensive a scroll wheel is than than a pushbutton, but it's gotta be some more expensive, so Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: I think it might be better to put our money into the stuff like the kinetic battery and the cool case Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Monica Stallins: Yeah. Jasmine Tafolla: because Anna Bauer: Is that okay Monica Stallins: Interesting. Anna Bauer: with you? How you feeling? Dana Jackson: Yeah. And let's like see if we get anything else. I mean I'm not like hard-sold on the scroll wheel, it's more just to give it a different kind of look, Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Dana Jackson: but if it's gonna be in a latex type thing Anna Bauer: It might Dana Jackson: and that's Anna Bauer: be cool Dana Jackson: gonna look Anna Bauer: enough. Dana Jackson: cool, then that's probably gonna have a bigger impact than the scroll wheel. Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah. Anna Bauer: Okay, so we're gonna go with um type pushbuttons, Monica Stallins: Yep. Anna Bauer: and then supplements, how are we gonna do that? Monica Stallins: Uh what do you mean by supplements, exactly? Anna Bauer: Um I assume that's what else we're gonna like h ha the um the additional buttons we can use. Monica Stallins: Um Jasmine Tafolla: Oh. Anna Bauer: So we're gonna have like a menu button, Monica Stallins: Yep. Anna Bauer: so that we can access on-screen things Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: then? Okay, um Jasmine Tafolla: Alright. Anna Bauer: so Monica Stallins: Um Anna Bauer: we're Monica Stallins: in Anna Bauer: doing an on-screen menu Jasmine Tafolla: So what Anna Bauer: that Jasmine Tafolla: are Anna Bauer: we Monica Stallins: Yeah. Anna Bauer: can Jasmine Tafolla: what Anna Bauer: scroll Jasmine Tafolla: are our Anna Bauer: through. Jasmine Tafolla: buttons gonna be? On off Monica Stallins: On off, uh volume, favourite channels, uh Jasmine Tafolla: So like one Monica Stallins: and Jasmine Tafolla: through Monica Stallins: menu. Jasmine Tafolla: five, or Monica Stallins: Yeah, Dana Jackson: Like a Monica Stallins: yeah Dana Jackson: radio Monica Stallins: about Dana Jackson: type sorta situation? Monica Stallins: yeah like yeah, a bit like radio presets. Um Anna Bauer: Pre-set channels and then we're gonna need um numbers one through zero, right? Monica Stallins: Uh we wouldn't even need Jasmine Tafolla: No. Monica Stallins: the numbers. I think maybe numbers seems is kind of Anna Bauer: Well, Monica Stallins: old-fashioned. Anna Bauer: but in order to pre-set a cha oh I guess you can just hold it down Monica Stallins: Yeah, Anna Bauer: when you get Monica Stallins: yeah, Anna Bauer: to one Monica Stallins: you can just Jasmine Tafolla: Mm. Anna Bauer: when you're scrolling through. Monica Stallins: and you need some kind of, I dunno, sort of up down kind of button, Jasmine Tafolla: Yeah, Monica Stallins: but Jasmine Tafolla: up Monica Stallins: the volume Jasmine Tafolla: down. Monica Stallins: control could double for that, for example. Anna Bauer: Mm-hmm. Okay, um finishing the meeting now. Um our next meeting starts in thirty minutes, um you each have things to do, look and feel design, user interface design, product evaluation, and you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. You'll get specific Jasmine Tafolla: Ooh. Anna Bauer: instructions Monica Stallins: Cool. Anna Bauer: from your personal coach. Dana Jackson: Wow. Anna Bauer: Um did we decide on a chip? Let's go with a simple chip? Jasmine Tafolla: Simple chip. Monica Stallins: Yep. Anna Bauer: Okay. We are done. Thank you everyone. Oh I di these are already in our shared folder, Jasmine Tafolla: Okay, cool. Anna Bauer: so. Jasmine Tafolla: Clay. Monica Stallins: Clay. 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Anna Bauer recapped the decisions made in the previous meeting. Jasmine Tafolla discussed possible materials to use in making the case for the remote, options for buttons, and options for batteries. The interface specialist presented two existing products which incorporate features the team is seeking to embed in their remote. The interface specialist also discussed other features to possibly incorporate into the design of the remote, such as an LCD screen. Dana Jackson discussed recent findings from trend watching reports and how to incorporate these findings into the remote design with respect to what materials to use and the overall appearance of the product. The team then discussed other options for how they could incorporate a fruit and vegetable theme into the appearance of their product. The team then discussed other options for batteries, chips, buttons, and materials for the case, as well as the option to have a menu function.

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Mary Crum: Are you sure I got it all head's kinda small. Jennifer Cage: How're Mary Crum: Okay. Jennifer Cage: we placed in terms of the alright. Mary Crum: We're okay? Eileen Hogan: I should probably try sit straight. Glenda Scott: Like that? Okay, cool. Mary Crum: We're good? Eileen Hogan: Oh, I think mine's fallen off. Jennifer Cage: It fell That's why. Mary Crum: I guess it's gonna be hard to drink coffee. Mm. Uh okay. Jennifer Cage: Ah. Glenda Scott: Okay? Right, so I'm just gonna start this PowerPoint real quick. Eileen Hogan: Wow. Glenda Scott: Yeah, PowerPoint. Mary Crum: Very official. Glenda Scott: Yeah, well, you know, Glenda Scott: Yeah I kinda like this I'm kinda getting into it. Right. Um. So just to kick off the meeting basically um so we're working now for a real reaction, this is uh so it right. Just got an agenda to set out what we're gonna try to accomplish in this particular first meeting. Um We're gonna just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another um then we're gonna start talk a little bit about tool training. Essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we haven't tried out yet, the whiteboard. Um we've got a general plan for the project how we're gonna go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up. Um I guess you know game or something um in real life um so yeah basically I want to I'm just gonna you got of course you can discuss that, I'm thinking about um uh proposing that since we've got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just don't ask, don't tell. Um so um if you say something about marketing, right, sorted, um Mary Crum: You're just Glenda Scott: y Mary Crum: gonna Glenda Scott: is Mary Crum: believe Mary Crum, we'll go from there. Glenda Scott: Exactly. Mary Crum: Fair enough. Glenda Scott: Um I mean obvi if if you guys if if at the same time if you like logically if something doesn't like if I'm like we're gonna sell a remote control that's the size of this paper book you know um you say like well that doesn't seem like such a good idea because of X_ obviously go with it. I mean we'll discuss it but I'm not gonna ask do you know that or uh yeah it seems like Mary Crum: Prove it yeah, Glenda Scott: yeah yeah exactly Mary Crum: okay. Glenda Scott: so, 'cause we're what we're sort of role playing is y g yeah you're gonna tap into your own knowledge as well um. And that's the same for your when we do introductions I mean um and you talk about your background you know have fun, you know maybe you went to um uh you know maybe i you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say you went to Harvard or something like that, why not, you know you can this is you know I guess we can have a little bit of fun with it. So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical? Eileen Hogan: Oh yeah, that's fine. Jennifer Cage: Sure. Mary Crum: Works for Mary Crum. Glenda Scott: Sweet. Cool. So I guess that that we're totally we're making a remote control which is Eileen Hogan: Right. Glenda Scott: thrilling um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the in real life I dunno if you guys uh checked the um uh the corporate website. Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible, that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something. So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way. Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics. And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um um the other designer that I can't remember, the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um Eileen Hogan hey Jennifer Cage: Mm. Glenda Scott: right on Mary Crum: There Glenda Scott: alright, Mary Crum: you go. Glenda Scott: getting into it um to guide Mary Crum and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be you're g you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time. And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good, you know like um I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um, yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand, or something like that. Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell Mary Crum tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the take the basics and make it nicer and then ov obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible um to try t of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th the white board um basically uh just to get used to it, I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around um and just write down I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could, not all five, if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh, we skipped introductions. Nice. I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um. I'm Marty, um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So Mary Crum: I'm Sarah, I went to Michigan, and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing, Glenda Scott: Expert Mary Crum: Expert. Glenda Scott: Don't Mary Crum: Expert. Glenda Scott: play yourself down. Mary Crum: Fine. Glenda Scott: Expert Mary Crum: That's Mary Crum. Jennifer Cage: I'm Ron. I uh once upon a time studied in Victoria and I am Jennifer Cage. Eileen Hogan: I'm Nathan, I'm from California, and I'm here doing a Masters degree in social anthropology. Glenda Scott: Where did you go to uni Nathan? Eileen Hogan: U_C_L_A_. Glenda Scott: Oh brilliant. Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Glenda Scott: Cool. My little brother goes there. Eileen Hogan: Okay. Glenda Scott: Right so desert island Mary Crum: So. Glenda Scott: discs. Yeah. Mary Crum: So do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you gonna tell us? Glenda Scott: Well Mary Crum: I'm Glenda Scott: I'll t Mary Crum: waiting Glenda Scott: i Mary Crum: to Glenda Scott: no Mary Crum: know. Glenda Scott: no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you Mary Crum: Uh Glenda Scott: guys are, I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent but Mary Crum: Fair Glenda Scott: there's Mary Crum: enough. Glenda Scott: some other options, if you're a T_V_ slut like I am like Smallville terrible television Mary Crum: Oh, Glenda Scott: show but I Mary Crum: Smallville. Glenda Scott: happen to love it, it's rubbish but I love Mary Crum: I Glenda Scott: it. Mary Crum: went to high school with Tom Willing actually. Glenda Scott: T the the main c the Mary Crum: The Glenda Scott: main Mary Crum: guy. Glenda Scott: character? Wow. Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: Is he a wanker? Mary Crum: Yeah. Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless. Glenda Scott: He looks really tall, like he's gotta Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: be like six six. Mary Crum: He is a big guy. Glenda Scott: Yeah. Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: Um okay so I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley? Mary Crum: Mm-hmm. Eileen Hogan: Mm-hmm. Glenda Scott: Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead. It's a r Mary Crum: Good call. Glenda Scott: Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway Mary Crum: Interesting. Glenda Scott: yeah. Yeah, you're like press and it's. Kinda cool. You'll see. Alright so um whoever wants to get up next, you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want. Mary Crum: I guess I'll go next then. Jennifer Cage: Go Glenda Scott: Right Jennifer Cage: for Glenda Scott: on. Jennifer Cage: it. Mary Crum: Okay. Don't wanna lose all my mikes, plugged in here. Okay. This is basically just pen practice huh? Glenda Scott: W Mary Crum: Okay. Oh you're much taller than Mary Crum so I'm gonna write down here. Um. Right now I'm listening to a lot of somebody nobody's ever heard of, Chris Bathgate, Glenda Scott: Mm. Mary Crum: local Michigan folk singer, Glenda Scott: Nice. Eileen Hogan: Wow. Mary Crum: really lame and uh uh what else did I bring with Mary Crum? Probably classical, to totally geek Glenda Scott: Okay Mary Crum: it out, Glenda Scott: yeah yeah. Mary Crum: yeah I think. And my family guy D_V_D_s Glenda Scott: Well Mary Crum: but Glenda Scott: yeah. Mary Crum: we don't need to write that one down. Glenda Scott: Oh, family Mary Crum: So Glenda Scott: guy. Isn't h has Mary Crum: yeah. Glenda Scott: h do you watch the new season? Mary Crum: No. Are you getting it online, or is it Glenda Scott: I Mary Crum: on Glenda Scott: think I'm gonna Mary Crum: sky? Glenda Scott: start downloading it yeah. Mary Crum: Yeah, that'd be nice. Jennifer Cage: Alright. Think I'm just gonna put down one uh one C_D_. Jennifer Cage: Anybody? Glenda Scott: Mm-mm. Eileen Hogan: No. Jennifer Cage: No? Mary Crum: 'Fraid Jennifer Cage: no? Mary Crum: not. Jennifer Cage: Afro beat orchestra, very cool. Glenda Scott: Afro beat orchestra? Jennifer Cage: Yeah. Glenda Scott: Very Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: cool. Jennifer Cage: Fift Eileen Hogan: Sounds Glenda Scott: Mm. Jennifer Cage: S Eileen Hogan: nice. Jennifer Cage: they like fifteen members from Brooklyn. I'm hoping to go to the concert in Belgium, in Brussels in Glenda Scott: Wow. Mary Crum: Exciting. Jennifer Cage: April first. Yeah. It's supposed to be Mary Crum: That'd Jennifer Cage: in Brussels Mary Crum: be. Jennifer Cage: anyways. Um thing I love about Edinburgh Mary Crum: Oh. I didn't even read those. Oops. I shouldn't admit Glenda Scott: That's Mary Crum: that. Glenda Scott: what a PowerPoint presentation Eileen Hogan: Oh, Glenda Scott: is for. It's Eileen Hogan: wow. Glenda Scott: they're designed specifically to ignore. I Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: it's th brilliant. Mary Crum: It's the five by five, I can't read that much. Glenda Scott: Ah yes yes yes okay I see that. Vomit. Yes. Mary Crum: Yeah oh Glenda Scott: Street pizza. It's so brilliant. Jennifer Cage: Love Mary Crum: it's so horrible. Jennifer Cage: um Glenda Scott: I've seen more urine in this city Mary Crum: Oh Glenda Scott: than Mary Crum: my Glenda Scott: ever Mary Crum: God. Glenda Scott: before, I Mary Crum: Seriously? Glenda Scott: mean Jennifer Cage: I just came from Glasgow and I'm um happy to say that Eileen Hogan: There's Jennifer Cage: there's Eileen Hogan: more Jennifer Cage: the Eileen Hogan: vomit Jennifer Cage: there's Eileen Hogan: there. Jennifer Cage: the same quantity approximately. Um. Glenda Scott: It's Jennifer Cage: I w Glenda Scott: so minging. Mary Crum: It really Glenda Scott: Uh. Mary Crum: is Jennifer Cage: Does uh yeah. Ready? Eileen Hogan: Alright. Yep. Jennifer Cage: Minging? Nice. Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: I'm going Mary Crum: Slide Glenda Scott: local. Mary Crum: it in there. Glenda Scott: Going Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: local. I have to be here for three years so I might Mary Crum: Yeah Glenda Scott: as Mary Crum: fair Glenda Scott: well get Mary Crum: enough. Glenda Scott: the terminology right. Mary Crum: I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning Glenda Scott: Oh, Mary Crum: into one of those people, Glenda Scott: have you been home yet? Mary Crum: no. Glenda Scott: They'll be like, say something British, and you're like Mary Crum: I Glenda Scott: oh shut Mary Crum: know. Glenda Scott: up family. Mary Crum: I Jennifer Cage: Uh-huh. Mary Crum: know. Eileen Hogan: Um Mary Crum: Oh it should be interesting. Wait until I Eileen Hogan: Let's Mary Crum: tell them I'm Eileen Hogan: see. Mary Crum: not coming back. They're gonna love that one. Glenda Scott: Right you s you're gonna stay here? Mary Crum: Probably. Or at Glenda Scott: Wow. Mary Crum: least get a work visa for a while and then decide. 'Cause Glenda Scott: Bad Jennifer Cage: Nice. Glenda Scott: religion? Eileen Hogan: Yeah, Mary Crum: nice. Eileen Hogan: up listening to. Mary Crum: Of Glenda Scott: Yeah Mary Crum: course. Glenda Scott: yeah, yeah. Mary Crum: Oh, Eileen Hogan: And Mary Crum: now I can think of so Eileen Hogan: so Mary Crum: many other Eileen Hogan: there Mary Crum: ones. Glenda Scott: Well yeah that's why Mary Crum: That's how it works. Glenda Scott: yeah. Eileen Hogan: Something I miss about my hometown. Glenda Scott: I miss coffee. Eileen Hogan: Burritos Mary Crum: Mm. Jennifer Cage: Nice. Glenda Scott: Burritos. Mary Crum: Oh Eileen Hogan: that cost less than Glenda Scott: Oh yeah two two Mary Crum: Any Eileen Hogan: eight Glenda Scott: bucks. Eileen Hogan: Pounds. Mary Crum: thing that are like free. Glenda Scott: Where are you from in California by the way? Eileen Hogan: I grew up in San Diego, but Glenda Scott: Did you really? What Eileen Hogan: yeah Glenda Scott: part? Eileen Hogan: um La Jolla, P_B_. Glenda Scott: Yeah I'm from San Diego as well. Mary Crum: Nice. Glenda Scott: Yeah oh Eileen Hogan: But Glenda Scott: man. Eileen Hogan: really uh I last lived in San Francisco, I haven't lived in Cali well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen. Glenda Scott: Going to s like North Carol I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s in San Diego. Eileen Hogan: It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them. Mary Crum: It must make all the difference. Eileen Hogan: Yeah, it really does. Glenda Scott: Well it's it's i there's other things too there's you just can't Mary Crum: Ah. Glenda Scott: place it like I when I went to school in the U_ in Santa Barbara which is central California the Mexican food is okay, it's just not good like Eileen Hogan: Mm. Glenda Scott: and yeah it's like two bucks, like literally two bucks for this massive Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: I miss yeah good call on that. Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Where you from in Mary Crum: Mm. Eileen Hogan: San Diego? Glenda Scott: Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego, I live like five minutes from the zoo. Eileen Hogan: Okay. Glenda Scott: So North Park actually if you want to get real Eileen Hogan: Yeah, Glenda Scott: specific. Eileen Hogan: my grandparents lived on um thirty second. Glenda Scott: Yep. Eileen Hogan: Close t uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop Glenda Scott: Yes. Eileen Hogan: is, and Glenda Scott: On university, yeah. Eileen Hogan: Cafe Forte Glenda Scott: Yeah it's actually like literally half a mile from my house. Eileen Hogan: Cool. Glenda Scott: Yeah, pretty cool. Small world Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Glenda Scott: as we were discussing before. Especially when we're all from the same general region. Right so okay, success on the whiteboard. Mary Crum: There you Glenda Scott: You can harness Mary Crum: go. Glenda Scott: the awesome power Eileen Hogan: Wow. Glenda Scott: a little bit introductions we talked about some of our C_D_s and things we like about the city you know, I think we'll Um right so moving on to not fun stuff uh project finance. Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um. This is what the finance department has told Mary Crum, the C_F_O_ but I don't know, I'm not sold on this, it's pretty dear, I mean twenty f that's like you know forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for Mary Crum. Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: Um so what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it, the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it. Eur internationally. So um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m we probably need a rever it needs to be a universal remote control probably. Eileen Hogan: Okay. Glenda Scott: Um so something that could do Mary Crum: Makes Glenda Scott: N_T_S_C_ Mary Crum: sense. Glenda Scott: as well as PAL as well as various other formats like if it's gonna control D_V_D_s Mary Crum: Uh. Glenda Scott: but um you know I'll leave that to you guys but that's something that i i it is gonna be an international sold thing. Um but we wanna try to make it for twelve fifty. So we wanna try to make a hundred percent profit on it if we can. Um s right so um just to close up, I'm not sure how much time I've used mm next time right Project Manager, sorted. Um. Is uh we'll meet in another half an hour or so um and I'd like the um Industrial Designer to get ge think about what needs to be done, like what the basic function of it. Um U_I_D_ well yeah you right g your assignments are up there and you'll also get s assignments from in your email as well more spec specifics on what do do. Um mm basic and um so I need you to tell us what um we what the user's gonna Mary Crum: What Glenda Scott: want. Mary Crum: they're looking for. Glenda Scott: So actually in a way you guys c maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have, you know like uh Mary Crum: And negotiate Glenda Scott: so Mary Crum: that. Glenda Scott: yeah well it is Mary Crum: Uh. Glenda Scott: and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions, before we get started? Jennifer Cage: I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control, we can't kind of build it into other uh products. Glenda Scott: You mean to like Jennifer Cage: For instance like a mobile phone or something Eileen Hogan: Mm. Jennifer Cage: like that. Glenda Scott: Hmm. Eileen Hogan: Sounds interesting. Glenda Scott: Yeah. Mary Crum: I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So Eileen Hogan: Maybe our personal coach will Mary Crum: Yeah. Jennifer Cage: Or or Eileen Hogan: have something Jennifer Cage: you know Eileen Hogan: to say about Jennifer Cage: can Eileen Hogan: that. Jennifer Cage: we produ can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less? Glenda Scott: Well, Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: have a think about it. I mean Jennifer Cage: Yep. Okay. Glenda Scott: I'm I'm certainly op it seems like yeah it Mary Crum: W Glenda Scott: it seems like Mary Crum: yeah. Glenda Scott: it's certainly do-able isn't it. I mean um or if we can't have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of useful Jennifer Cage: Mm-hmm. Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Glenda Scott: function. The clapper. No I mean no, good idea, good idea. We'll see what Eileen Hogan: Maybe Glenda Scott: see what Eileen Hogan: a remote with changeable faces, like the faces that you can buy for phones. Mary Crum: I like Jennifer Cage: Nice. Mary Crum: the Glenda Scott: Uh-huh Mary Crum: little cover Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Mary Crum: thingies. Glenda Scott: y I like that Jennifer Cage: Hot. Glenda Scott: Yeah. That's true, I guess we we probably have some time, maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do, go back to um I don't really have any. Let Mary Crum bring up something about our basic goals here, what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement. Ts ts ts Glenda Scott: Yeah. Not so much. Mary Crum: Hmm. Glenda Scott: All right we'll find them, we're on our own. Jennifer Cage: Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all Glenda Scott: Yeah Jennifer Cage: here? Glenda Scott: yeah let's do it, let's do. Jennifer Cage: S does anybody have any initial ideas? Glenda Scott: I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause Mary Crum: Good idea. Start your minutes. Glenda Scott: Yeah I mean Mary Crum: Um Glenda Scott: oh yeah right. So initial ideas. Mary Crum: Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal right, Glenda Scott: Yeah. Mary Crum: we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things, as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do, like your microwave or your front Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Mary Crum: door or like to have everything on one thing, but then, I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons, you Eileen Hogan: S Mary Crum: can't tell Glenda Scott: Mm-hmm. Mary Crum: what they do. Eileen Hogan: smaller's better. Simple. Mary Crum: Yeah. Jennifer Cage: But I'm thinking Mary Crum: Specific. Jennifer Cage: I'm thinking kind of P_D_A_ uh design so touch screen design rather Mary Crum: Okay. Jennifer Cage: than button Eileen Hogan: Oh Jennifer Cage: so Eileen Hogan: right. Jennifer Cage: that you Eileen Hogan: That'd Jennifer Cage: can Eileen Hogan: be different. Jennifer Cage: kind Mary Crum: Interesting. Jennifer Cage: of flip around all sorts of different things. Glenda Scott: Yeah that's slick isn't it. I mean like stylist yeah like a just Mary Crum: True. Glenda Scott: a yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this, perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: uh size and functionality. Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: Um Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: and Mary Crum: We Glenda Scott: we Mary Crum: want Glenda Scott: also Mary Crum: it to be munt multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Mary Crum: able to Jennifer Cage: Too Mary Crum: tell Jennifer Cage: confusing. Mary Crum: them apart, Eileen Hogan: It's Mary Crum: that Eileen Hogan: gonna be Mary Crum: whole Eileen Hogan: too complicated, Mary Crum: yeah. Eileen Hogan: too crowded with buttons and things. Glenda Scott: I'm also gonna note Mary Crum: Hmm. Glenda Scott: for future reference this idea of um so you like maybe like an L_ like a touch screen type of remote? Jennifer Cage: Mm-hmm. Mary Crum: Mm. Jennifer Cage: Possibly. Glenda Scott: I don't think one exists. Mary Crum: An interesting option. Glenda Scott: Be a Eileen Hogan: Needs Glenda Scott: good idea. Eileen Hogan: it needs one outstanding Mary Crum: Yeah. Eileen Hogan: feature to set it apart from all the Mary Crum: Definitely. Eileen Hogan: other remotes. Glenda Scott: Yeah all the other universal remotes. Um I don't know if there's such a thing out there, I guess we could do some uh do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are um multi-format like um you know PAL, N_T_S_C_, region one Mary Crum: Right. Jennifer Cage: I'm pretty sure there is. I mean I Glenda Scott: Okay. Jennifer Cage: I have a friend who has a P_D_A_ Glenda Scott: Okay. Jennifer Cage: that he just Mary Crum: That Jennifer Cage: points at his telev any television he wants and Mary Crum: Yeah. Jennifer Cage: it'll figure out the the specifications of it and will control it Glenda Scott: Interesting. Mary Crum: Awesome. Jennifer Cage: um Glenda Scott: Okay. Jennifer Cage: so I th I assume that that can be done with uh kind Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: Okay. Jennifer Cage: of around the world. Glenda Scott: Okay. Um all right. So. I li I'm liking that idea, this idea of a touch screen remote with multi-format features. Mary Crum: Mm-hmm. Glenda Scott: Um. Eileen Hogan: Right. Glenda Scott: Um. Let's see. Eileen Hogan: I think, making it out of a nice material would be very important, because so many of those remotes that you see, these universal Mary Crum: Yeah. Eileen Hogan: remotes look so cheap and Glenda Scott: Mm. Eileen Hogan: low quality. Mary Crum: Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick, would be important. And I don't know, like, there's such a problem with losing them, that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen Eileen Hogan: Mm. Mary Crum: business is only one more thing to lose, so we're gonna have to be careful with Jennifer Cage: Oh. Mary Crum: what like Just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool. Glenda Scott: Uh let's see. Um. Jennifer Cage: I like the idea of the uh multi plate. Glenda Scott: Yeah Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: yeah okay. Mary Crum: Fi Jennifer Cage: In Mary Crum: b like what Jennifer Cage: in Mary Crum: are they called, those face plate things? Isn't Glenda Scott: Think Mary Crum: there Glenda Scott: they're Mary Crum: a Glenda Scott: just Mary Crum: name Glenda Scott: called Mary Crum: for them? Glenda Scott: face plates? Mary Crum: Are they? Glenda Scott: I don't know. Eileen Hogan: something, Mary Crum: I dunno. Eileen Hogan: uh Jennifer Cage: I like. Eileen Hogan: we'll have to come up with a name, Jennifer Cage: We Eileen Hogan: patent Jennifer Cage: should Mary Crum: Yeah. Jennifer Cage: c Eileen Hogan: it. Jennifer Cage: we should come Mary Crum: Something Jennifer Cage: up with Mary Crum: really Jennifer Cage: a fuzzy Mary Crum: cool. Jennifer Cage: one as well. For Mary Crum: Leopard Jennifer Cage: those cold Mary Crum: print Eileen Hogan: Leopard Jennifer Cage: winter Mary Crum: or something. Eileen Hogan: print. Jennifer Cage: days. Glenda Scott: Um. Mary Crum: Hmm. Eileen Hogan: I think, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device, maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote. Mary Crum: True. Glenda Scott: Mm. But if we're bundling it unless we're selling their telly with the remote. Mary Crum: Right. Eileen Hogan: Mm. Glenda Scott: Um Jennifer Cage: Well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it. Eileen Hogan: True. Jennifer Cage: If you're Mary Crum: True. Jennifer Cage: not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either well there used to be those whistling devices but that's a Mary Crum: Right. Jennifer Cage: little bit annoying. Glenda Scott: Cou could we not do something where like just a little lit like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page. Kinda Jennifer Cage: Th Glenda Scott: like Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: how on a lot of um uh cordless regular Jennifer Cage: Yeah. Glenda Scott: phones, Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Glenda Scott: you have a page button and it goes, Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: could we do something like that? Jennifer Cage: That's cool. Eileen Hogan: I think Mary Crum: Probably. Eileen Hogan: so. Jennifer Cage: I think we could design into Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Jennifer Cage: that. Mary Crum: Good. Glenda Scott: Um yeah I think this material quality as well like I guess what we can think about what kind of um uh you know Apple 's been really successful with Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: this surgical white kind of business or this Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: sleek kind of Mary Crum: And Eileen Hogan: Mm. Glenda Scott: you Mary Crum: that Glenda Scott: know Mary Crum: titanium the new silver sleek ones that's last couple of years, Glenda Scott: Yeah. Mary Crum: very much so. Jennifer Cage: Curves. Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: Yeah. We do have the minimum am amount I mean we were talking finances I dunno, selling a a forty Pound remote would h or a forty Dollar remote, twenty five Euro remote would be pretty you know Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: it's pretty expensive so maybe we might wanna trade off some of the features for a lower price. Without without getting into that whole like you know go down to bargain store remote you know bargain store universal Mary Crum: Right. Glenda Scott: remote that's black Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Glenda Scott: and you know m massive, some kind of Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: I dunno a balance there in somewhere. Mary Crum: Definitely. Glenda Scott: But um have a think about what we can do, have a think about what we want to do, Mary Crum: Yeah. Glenda Scott: how we're gonna sell it and Mary Crum: Or if Glenda Scott: um Mary Crum: you our users in mind, like these grandmas are not gonna be into this whole new let's design, no it's they're used to the buttons so we'll have to be careful of exactly who we're marketing this to, Eileen Hogan: Yeah. Mary Crum: and Glenda Scott: Mm. Mary Crum: who we're gonna be able to get it out of. Eileen Hogan: 'S true. Mary Crum: But Jennifer Cage: We're talking twenty five Pounds or twenty five Euros? Glenda Scott: Twenty five Mary Crum: Euros. Glenda Scott: Euros. Jennifer Cage: Slight difference I guess. Glenda Scott: Yeah. They're all weaker than they're all stronger than the Dollar. Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: Although, computer parts, all if you're gonna upgrade your computer, buy it in the States. Like um do you guys know Fry's? Huge Jennifer Cage: No. Glenda Scott: computer Mary Crum: Mm-mm. Glenda Scott: uh electronics store? They serve um right they sa tha s they will sell things overseas so Mary Crum: Mm. Glenda Scott: you can buy stuff in America and have it shipped over for like twenty thirty Pounds about. Right so um let's go ahead and wrap that up here for now, I'm gonna put these initial ideas that we've got in the um project documents, so if you guys wa need a reminder about what we've talked about Mary Crum: Okay. Glenda Scott: um the Eileen Hogan: Okay. Glenda Scott: different you know kind of trade-offs that we've got and the other ideas, you can consult them at your leisure. And uh right so thanks for that. Let's just uh head back to work on what we were talking about bef uh goi h h getting into. Mary Crum: half an hour? Glenda Scott: Um. Yes. Mary Crum: 'Kay. Perfect. Glenda Scott: Thanks guys. Mary Crum: Cool. Jennifer Cage: Thank you. Eileen Hogan: Alright.

Glenda Scott presented the project to the other participants by discussing the aim of creating a new, fashionable remote control device and defined the roles and tasks of each participant. The group introduced themselves to each other and trained themselves how to use the whiteboard tools. Glenda Scott discussed the financial goals of the project, including the projected profit aim and price point for the device. Glenda Scott gave each participant their assignments. The group then began a discussion of their initial ideas about the remote control and possible features. Glenda Scott announced that he would make a report containing the discussion of the group's initial ideas about the device.

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Lynn Tango: All set? Okay. Cool. Right. So um basically I'm just gonna go over real quickly um some news I've just got from the board on how we're supposed to do with this um remote control. And then I'm gonna turn over to you guys to make brief presentations um on what you've found and then we'll have a bit of discussion. So basically uh what I've just found out from the board I dunno if you guys got this email as well but it needs to be television only. So no we're not doing D_V_D_, Josette Hoffman: Okay. Lynn Tango: we're not doing anything else, it's just gonna be a television remote. Um it also needs to have the company colours included in it. Um so that's red and black. And it has to have the slogan, case you guys forget the slogan it's, we put fashion in electronics. Um and no teletext. I'm not sure what teletext is but I'm assuming you guys do, so we don't wanna include that um in this particular design. For reasons that I don't really know. There's but it's the board so there you go. So basically um given those guidelines which will have some effect on how we design we'll discuss it later I mean 'cause it's television only we'll be able to change our uh um well we can s sacrifice more function for a better television remote. Anyway. So I'm gonna turn over to Andrea Scott uh to go ahead and make a presentation on Andrea Scott: Okay. So do I unplug Josette Hoffman: Gotta Lynn Tango: Oh, Josette Hoffman: plug Lynn Tango: right yeah. Josette Hoffman: you in. Andrea Scott: this bit here? Lynn Tango: Yep. Lynn Tango: Might have to hit function F_ eight but it looks like it's gonna come up. Yep. Cool. Andrea Scott: Okay. Right. That's page one of my presentation. Lynn Tango: Brilliant. Josette Hoffman: Very nice For. your first PowerPoint it's lovely. Andrea Scott: So the uh method. We're gonna have to understand how remote controls work and res uh successfully complete this project. Um remote control works as follows. This is all pretty basic stuff you guys. Um sends message to another system, so there's an energy source involved in that like a battery or solar power, something along those lines, there's an integrated circuit, which is the microchip, actually compose the messages and usually the way a a remote control works is it sends infrared bits to another system. A user interface controls the chip, basically that's the casing and the buttons and um accordingly the messages as well. So my findings, um I just did a preliminary study here and uh I found that too much metal in remote design could potentially cause interference with the ability of the remote to send commands. And too much metal can cause remotes to behave unexpectedly by receiving false signals. Um too much metal is used sometimes and people pick up radio signals and the like, and there's also the possibility of the remote catching on fire and injuring the customer, just think of those lawsuits, that'd be really bad. Therefore I suggest primarily plastic construction. Lynn Tango: 'Kay. Andrea Scott: Um, components. Just some ideas that I had, um, energy source, it's kinda hip to be eco friendly so I thought maybe we could do something with solar power with an alkaline battery backup. Um the user interface, I was since we can't use metal I was thinking maybe a high grade recycled plastic. Lynn Tango: Mm. Andrea Scott: The chip, um, silicon based chip I don't really see any way around that, we can't really be different in that respect. Um, the sender well I'm thinking infrared 'cause it is the industry standard, multi channel, that's a word I made up, I don't really know what it means. Lynn Tango: 'Kay. Andrea Scott: Uh PAL Lynn Tango: Fair enough. Andrea Scott: and N_T_S_C_ compatible and uh probably a two hundred foot range. Lynn Tango: 'Kay. Andrea Scott: Uh and the receiver of course is any number of electronic devices. Um but in this case it'll only be T_V_s. Um personal preferences, I really think that we should use plastic as opposed to metal, um, the company simply Josette Hoffman: Fine. Andrea Scott: can't afford this kinds of lawsuits which adm admittedly is gonna come at the cost of a certain aesthetic value, 'cause we were thinking Lynn Tango: Is is there a way that we can use um modern types of polymers, or mo modern types of plastics that maybe do have some kind of aesthetic value um like if a white like if we talk about like well like on the lapt on these laptops and other Andrea Scott: Right. Lynn Tango: ones Josette Hoffman: It Lynn Tango: they Josette Hoffman: needs, Lynn Tango: use a Josette Hoffman: yeah. Lynn Tango: a pretty nice, you can do i is there some kind of nice colo der quality plastic that we can work with? Andrea Scott: Yeah that shouldn't be a problem. Um for example the plastic they have on your laptop there is something that's perfectly possible for Lynn Tango: Okay, Andrea Scott: us to do. Lynn Tango: okay. Josette Hoffman: Cool. Andrea Scott: That's Lynn Tango: Great. Andrea Scott: the end of my presentation. Lynn Tango: Thank you very much Nathan. Um if next we can have the um User Interface Developer go ahead and make a brief presentation that'd be great as well. S plug yourself in here. Lynn Tango: Mm. Um hit function F_ eight real quickly, hold down Mm. Josette Hoffman: Looks like you're in okay. Andrea Scott: Is it plugged in well? There it goes. Computer Joann Seamon: Th Andrea Scott: adjusting. Josette Hoffman: There you go. Lynn Tango: There you go. Sweet. Joann Seamon: Well so. Here we have a functions design presentation. Um so a few of the requirements we need here. Uh we n basically need to operate an electronic device, it needs to be universal um and possibly uh operate several different types of devices although we now uh find that Lynn Tango: Yeah Joann Seamon: uh Lynn Tango: sorry I Joann Seamon: that Lynn Tango: couldn't get that g to use before. Joann Seamon: that's no problem. Um so some of my findings. Um basically wanna send messages uh to a television set. Joann Seamon: I think we're all quite uh quite uh intelligent and know know what a normal remote control does. Um now some of the other things I found is a a complicated remote control sorry that we can't quite Lynn Tango: Oh yeah Joann Seamon: see Lynn Tango: look Joann Seamon: my Lynn Tango: at Joann Seamon: red Lynn Tango: that. Andrea Scott: Mm. Joann Seamon: there very well but uh this remote control has many functions um so it can do a lot of things but it uh it is quite complicated and most Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Joann Seamon: users will find it uh find that they won't use most of the functions because they don't know how to use them and don't wanna take the time to learn how to do it. As you also notice it's quite a boring design. Um. Another remote control, slightly different, it's a simpler remote control uh many less buttons but uh has many fewer functions, um m much easier for the user to manipulate and use. Um it also has a bit of a cheap look and it's also quite boring. So my personal preferences. Revolutionise Lynn Tango: Nice. Joann Seamon: the idea of uh a remote control. Um so attain the functionality of a complicated device but use a simple formatted display uh for the user to to work with. And I was gonna add another uh slide here but I didn't quite have time there. Um. Lynn Tango: Okay. Joann Seamon: Just incorporating some of the ideas that we had previously like uh having multiple face but it's uh. Lynn Tango: Great. Thanks for that Ron. Josette Hoffman: Right. Does that mean I'm Lynn Tango: 'Kay Josette Hoffman: up? Lynn Tango: yep that's you. Josette Hoffman: I think so. Okay. Joann Seamon: I can plug you in. Josette Hoffman: Oh that would be perfect. Thank you. Slide show up and running. Or not. Lynn Tango: Give it a little Josette Hoffman: Uh. Lynn Tango: bit. Josette Hoffman: Oh there we go. Perfect. Okay. So this is Josette Hoffman. Um basically I was looking through some marketing reports that we've got we had a usability test where we were actually sort like watching a hundred people use T_V_ remotes and see what it is that they're using and then they filled out a questionnaire about what they like and what they don't about their general T_V_ remote control practices. Um pretty much through testing we were finding out that most of the time, everybody's used to using changing the channel, turning it on, using the volume, m the majority of the time that's all that's going on, the other functions happen, for some people they're important, but the primary uses are really really basic. Um and so big complicated remotes like one we saw in the last presentation are really not the general public's use, they're not using a lot of it, they don't need it, they even find it frustrating when there are all those buttons that they don't know what to do with. And um we also found out that uh fifty percent of our people, their the worst thing about a remote is how often they lose it. And then they can't find it in the room. So I think what we were talking about with a pager or something, will really come into play with a lot of these people. Um there's also a survey about what they liked about remotes, and pretty much they all think they're hideous and not very useful, and the younger demographics are all really interested in voice recognition options. I don't know if that's something we're ready to look into technically, that's up to the design people, but it is s something worth thinking about, especially since the younger demographic's obviously the one that's gonna keep growing, so if that's the direction we're headed in it's something to think about. Um but basically it really is the primary functions and getting it to look nice, which are the standards. So it's a good start for us. Lynn Tango: That's great. Thank you Sarah. Right. Josette Hoffman: Need to unplug Lynn Tango: So Josette Hoffman: this? Lynn Tango: um yep I'll just uh switch that Josette Hoffman: Need it Lynn Tango: back Josette Hoffman: back. Lynn Tango: here. I'll finish up with just a bit of discussion Josette Hoffman: There you go. Lynn Tango: plan on for the next phase. Lynn Tango: Right so I think we've covered most of these important questions through this um through you guys's presentations um we've got uh y Andrea Scott suggests uh or pretty much emphatically suggested that we need to go with plastic. Um Sarah, she's recommended that we go for simpler functions, so fewer functions um but we need to decide who are we selling this to, you s your stats suggested that seventy five percent of people under thirty five wanted, Josette Hoffman: Oh right. Lynn Tango: thought about voice control, um so do we wanna go for that, or do we want to go for an older demographic, and my thought is um we've got w if we're gonna go for a sleek look I mean we are putting the fashion in electronics um. Josette Hoffman: We're not catering to the pensioners of the world Lynn Tango: Yes. Josette Hoffman: I don't think so. Lynn Tango: So maybe this we should look into this younger demographic. Um. Josette Hoffman: Right. Lynn Tango: So uh we need to wonder ah h about how we make it better and smaller and faster um think we're constrained to plastics very well, we've got this idea, Ron was saying we need to think about uh revolutionising the way it's looking Josette Hoffman: Right. Lynn Tango: um, which might be easier given that we're going for simpler function and that we're Josette Hoffman: Uh. Lynn Tango: only going for a telly. Um so um. How th this voice operation thing is I think is a good idea um assuming that it's doable, um at least for the basic controls, maybe we can balance Josette Hoffman: Right. Lynn Tango: it that way, you Andrea Scott: Mm. Lynn Tango: know we can see. Okay you can't say record alias tonight at seven P_M_ but we might be able to say um volume up. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Andrea Scott: Right. I think it would be possible to uh combine the locator device and the voice recognition technology. Lynn Tango: Mm. Josette Hoffman: Oh. That could work. I like that. Andrea Scott: With a simple command like locate. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Andrea Scott: And then Josette Hoffman: Something very basic. Andrea Scott: it could start to beep Josette Hoffman: Right. Andrea Scott: and Lynn Tango: Right. Andrea Scott: therefore be found. Joann Seamon: Sounds Josette Hoffman: Is that only Joann Seamon: good. Josette Hoffman: gonna be within our two hundred foot range then? Andrea Scott: Oh yeah I think that's Josette Hoffman: Okay. Andrea Scott: very doable. Lynn Tango: The difficulty wh would be in um I think like i you couldn't speak into the remote that you're trying to find. 'Kay you have something that picks up Andrea Scott: Mm. Lynn Tango: a voice Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: from far away Andrea Scott: It's a good point. Lynn Tango: If it's hidden under the couch but then again you have this wee this wee thing you know that's just a little chip or whatever that has the page button, maybe that could be voice activated too. Joann Seamon: A little Josette Hoffman: Mm. Joann Seamon: sticky pad to stick on top of your uh television. And Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Joann Seamon: you just say something to into that and it Lynn Tango: Yeah. Andrea Scott: Yeah. Joann Seamon: finds Josette Hoffman: K Joann Seamon: your Lynn Tango: Or an isolated magnet or something like, or you know something that wouldn't interfere I don't know that'd Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: be the technical thing but yeah I like that, I like that, the voice recognition for the paging system. Joann Seamon: The other thing is we might be able to handle the simplicity of a remote control and kind of put the more complicated things into a voice control. So it could be sold to both the younger market Josette Hoffman: True. Joann Seamon: and the older market. And the younger market could use kind of the voi voice control method and the older market Josette Hoffman: Making Joann Seamon: might Josette Hoffman: it just Joann Seamon: might Josette Hoffman: an option? Joann Seamon: k Andrea Scott: Mm. Joann Seamon: exactly Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Joann Seamon: and might consider the older market could use the simpler design with Josette Hoffman: Right. Joann Seamon: the traditional buttons and what not. Andrea Scott: I Lynn Tango: Yeah. Andrea Scott: was thinking Josette Hoffman: Are we still Andrea Scott: uh Josette Hoffman: thinking about this screen sorry. Andrea Scott: Oh Josette Hoffman: Go Andrea Scott: go Josette Hoffman: ahead. Andrea Scott: ahead. Josette Hoffman: The uh if we're gonna do this touch pad screen thing, it would be Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Josette Hoffman: still, do we know if that's an option technically right Joann Seamon: 'S Josette Hoffman: now Joann Seamon: definitely Josette Hoffman: to that? Joann Seamon: an option technically. Josette Hoffman: Okay. Joann Seamon: I've looked into uh costs of uh touch screen methods Josette Hoffman: Okay. Joann Seamon: and what not, they seem to be uh you know almost Josette Hoffman: We're doing okay. Joann Seamon: as cheap as a button method at this point. Josette Hoffman: 'Cause Lynn Tango: Okay. Josette Hoffman: it seems like an interesting option especially because then you could have like your primary screen just be these you know four or five basic functions, you can have Lynn Tango: Mm. Josette Hoffman: menu Andrea Scott: Yeah. Josette Hoffman: options or something to have all these other complicated voice recognition, settings, things that you're not gonna use every day and that a lot of people aren't gonna use but it is an option there for this hi-tech market that sort of re is the sleek thing we're going for. Andrea Scott: Gotta wonder though, if we're adding so much technology to this one remote, are we still gonna be able to meet out twelve pou our twelve Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Andrea Scott: fifty Josette Hoffman: True. Andrea Scott: Euro you Josette Hoffman: Worth Andrea Scott: know Josette Hoffman: looking Andrea Scott: goal Josette Hoffman: into. Andrea Scott: for selling these things. Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Andrea Scott: It Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Andrea Scott: seems Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Andrea Scott: like, we're not gonna be able to handle all these functions with just one microchip. The microchip is probably the most expensive part of Josette Hoffman: True. Lynn Tango: Okay. Andrea Scott: the the whole mechanism. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Andrea Scott: So Lynn Tango: Okay. Andrea Scott: it's just something to consider. Lynn Tango: Absolutely. um well yeah I guess we'll cross that bridge um in a la slightly later stages of development um but yeah I know, that's perfectly viable question. Mm 'kay um so I'm seeing that we're gonna just basically focus on this young demographic group, aim it at them, but then in a sense that its bells and whistles are available for anybody who wants them but basically we'll make a sleek simple Josette Hoffman: Mm-hmm. Lynn Tango: functioned um uh remote control. Um I think this voice recognition thing is a we've got a market for it uh I don't think there's too Josette Hoffman: Mm. Lynn Tango: many, we'd more or less be cornering the market on it as well, we don't have many um. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: I appear to have lost my microphone. Mm. Right um we don't have many people or there's not very many competitors out there that do that so cool. Um right. I guess we've c we've touched on most of this. The idea of a paging function, a touch screen, and face plates. Um. The thing with I see would there not be a we'd have to maybe sacrifice the face plates for a touch screen? Joann Seamon: Um I'm not sure that's sincerely correct, I think Lynn Tango: Okay. Joann Seamon: if you kind of take the example of a mobile phone that uh trying to pass a portion of the device is not interchangeable whereas the surrounding portions Josette Hoffman: Mm. Joann Seamon: are interchangeable. Lynn Tango: Okay. Josette Hoffman: Just the casing. Joann Seamon: We could have the casing, the the face plates. Lynn Tango: Okay. Andrea Scott: Back to the uh the cost the material. We have to ask whether we're going to include a certain number of face plates with the package? That's something I w for say we're including Josette Hoffman: Mm. Andrea Scott: three or four face plates, it's gonna drive the cost up. Lynn Tango: Mm. Andrea Scott: And Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Andrea Scott: the other question is, if we do include them are we really in a position to evaluate that market? We haven't done any tests on face plates and whether Josette Hoffman: Right. Andrea Scott: See Lynn Tango: Okay. Andrea Scott: if there if there's even interest out there. Lynn Tango: Okay. Right. Andrea Scott: Off the top of my head it sounds kind of like a gimmick that wouldn't really go anywhere. Lynn Tango: Yeah 'cause then ha you Josette Hoffman: Mm. Lynn Tango: would have to who all it's not like with cell phones like where you have a you know Nokia model X_ and then ten people make face plates for it, we'd Josette Hoffman: Right. Andrea Scott: Yeah. Lynn Tango: be just our model of pho of t remote control. Josette Hoffman: Well in the publicity of a face plate on a phone is you have it out and around, it is sort of emblematic whereas Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Josette Hoffman: you're just sit at home, so unless somebody comes Lynn Tango: Mm. Josette Hoffman: over Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. Josette Hoffman: to watch T_V_ Lynn Tango: Yeah. Joann Seamon: Well hopefully some people have people coming t over to w Josette Hoffman: True. Joann Seamon: to hang out at Josette Hoffman: True. Joann Seamon: your house and most people Josette Hoffman: True. Joann Seamon: have their televisions in the living room. Uh. Lynn Tango: Alright well we can Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: we can discuss that one further when we think about Josette Hoffman: Oh yeah. Lynn Tango: um whether th when we do costs Joann Seamon: Sure. Lynn Tango: and so forth, um. True, if plastic is dead cheap and if we're making the whole thing out of plastic anyway um yeah we'll cross that bridge later um but yeah we will have to evaluate what's most important. Um I think we've had a bit of discussion already on this thing, n s there any other questions comments that came up in these presentations? Joann Seamon: Well have we confirmed that we're gonna go ahead with a uh touch screen um Lynn Tango: Yeah yeah Joann Seamon: Interface? Lynn Tango: okay. Um Yeah I think that would be best. Let's based on what sh on what you guys have all said to Josette Hoffman let's go for a plastic built or uh b plastic cased 'cause tha tha that's easy on the cost, try to look for some kind of high quality recycled plastic as you recommended and I think that's a great idea. With a touch screen for the basic functions. Um And we'll yeah tha let's provisionally let's go for a touch screen one with several submenus um for possible extra stuff that one basically put the channel and the on and off switch on the touch screen. Um do we have Mm wait a minute it occurs to Josette Hoffman that if we have a touch screen people are going to have to recharge their remote controls. Yet Josette Hoffman: True. Lynn Tango: at the same time that might help for this whole complaint of it being lost. Josette Hoffman: 'Cause it would have a docking base? Lynn Tango: Mm-hmm. But then again that costs as well. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: Hmm. Joann Seamon: So these new lithium batteries they last twenty years even with the touch screen? Lynn Tango: Do they? Joann Seamon: Those Lynn Tango: Okay. Joann Seamon: new ones. Josette Hoffman: Can we afford Andrea Scott: Can we Josette Hoffman: that? Andrea Scott: afford to include one of those? Josette Hoffman: And will somebody buy it if we don't? Lynn Tango: Well I I don't think yeah I can't see anybody buying a lap a remote control that they have to plug in so we'd have to see some kind of new Josette Hoffman: Right. Lynn Tango: battery technology. Okay so let's go with a um touch screen with um some kind of you know with with some kind of cutting edge battery technology Josette Hoffman: For twelve Euros? Lynn Tango: Yeah well hey you know well it's it's worth looking into, if not we can always Josette Hoffman: It is. Lynn Tango: default to just doing a a well Josette Hoffman: Fair enough. Lynn Tango: presented plastic simple you know so Josette Hoffman: The Lynn Tango: you Josette Hoffman: basics. Lynn Tango: know. Well yeah I mean you can put the we could I I dunno I mean I suppose we could put the the basics on the centre easiest you know, you know people know the channel and volume function make them large and easy to get at and then the the other the other bits and bobs Josette Hoffman: Mm. Lynn Tango: you know go through menu um w we'll do the aesthetics. Okay so we'll touch screen and the battery, Josette Hoffman: 'Kay. Lynn Tango: focus on um uh presentation. Um it's th uh with this voice recognition option as well um just as for the simple functions the um the on off, channels, volume, Andrea Scott: Right. Lynn Tango: um and um a small paging function. Even if you can't do voice recognition for the paging you know just some kind of simple button that's just a I guess another infrared signal to the remote control and while to emit some kind of paging. Just Andrea Scott: Okay. Lynn Tango: a beep. Um right so any comments? Thoughts before we break into go into the next round of individual work on this. Andrea Scott: Since we're doing uh touch screen, do we wanna look into the possibility of people being able to input different types of skins for the you know the actual interface part of it and things like that? Or is it just gonna be one touch screen for everybody. Joann Seamon: Be interesting. Josette Hoffman: Mm. Andrea Scott: What what would be on that touch screen? 'Cause you said earlier that we have to think about company colours and um logo or Josette Hoffman: And Andrea Scott: something or motto, Josette Hoffman: oh. Andrea Scott: I can't remember exactly Josette Hoffman: Yeah the Andrea Scott: what you said. Joann Seamon: We put fashion Josette Hoffman: the fashion Joann Seamon: into Josette Hoffman: do. Joann Seamon: electronics. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: W it's my understanding that if you were going to do a skin you'd need to have some way for people to download or import skins Josette Hoffman: Right, and then you're Lynn Tango: into Josette Hoffman: dealing Lynn Tango: the remote Josette Hoffman: with ports Lynn Tango: control. Josette Hoffman: and cords and Lynn Tango: Yeah I think perhaps Andrea Scott: 'S too much. Lynn Tango: good idea Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: but yeah I think that that one m might just be um and they just yeah I think that one might just be out of the range for this particular Josette Hoffman: For now. Lynn Tango: a P_D_A_ would they would makes a lot of sense for a P_D_A_ 'cause you're gonna be using it to connect up to things anyway but I dunno, what do you guys think? Andrea Scott: Think we just need to come up with a nice black and red Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Nice. Andrea Scott: interface on the touch screen. That'd Joann Seamon: Yeah. Andrea Scott: be okay. Joann Seamon: Uh I I'm I'm in agreement with that, I'm wondering Josette Hoffman: Um. Joann Seamon: how we're gonna get uh we put fashion into electronics Josette Hoffman: Well but Joann Seamon: onto Josette Hoffman: if we're Joann Seamon: this Josette Hoffman: gonna Joann Seamon: device. Josette Hoffman: use a touch screen where it's gonna come on like on your cell phone it'll have your Lynn Tango: Hmm. Josette Hoffman: your carrier provider name come up first like while it's loading and then it goes away, perhaps it could be like a temporary Lynn Tango: Mm. Josette Hoffman: Comes on every time you turn it on and then that's it 'cause it is a bit much to have it like engraved Andrea Scott: Mm. Josette Hoffman: on the back or Lynn Tango: Yeah. Josette Hoffman: something Andrea Scott: True. Josette Hoffman: I think. Lynn Tango: Yeah. Joann Seamon: I'm hoping for a subliminal maybe half a millisecond Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Joann Seamon: as it turns on. Josette Hoffman: Y Lynn Tango: Yeah. Yeah I know I d it seems like it would suffice to have just the R_R_ on there. Joann Seamon: Mm-hmm. Josette Hoffman: Yeah Lynn Tango: Jus Josette Hoffman: you would think. But. Lynn Tango: But apparently not. Josette Hoffman: If it Andrea Scott: People Josette Hoffman: comes Lynn Tango: So. Josette Hoffman: from Andrea Scott: aren't gonna Josette Hoffman: above. Andrea Scott: want their remote to boot up and to see flashing things come on. They just want it to be on and ready to go. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: Yeah. Well fair enough. Um and yeah that would help the battery life too and if it the remote they do have to press a button for the remote to turn on. But then again who wants to turn on a remote control. Joann Seamon: Well Lynn Tango: Kind Joann Seamon: all Lynn Tango: of Joann Seamon: you Lynn Tango: if Joann Seamon: have to Lynn Tango: i Joann Seamon: do is touch the screen and it automatically Josette Hoffman: Mm. Lynn Tango: Oh Joann Seamon: goes Lynn Tango: to wake Joann Seamon: on. Lynn Tango: up okay Joann Seamon: Yep. Lynn Tango: or go into like Joann Seamon: Goes Lynn Tango: a dormant Joann Seamon: into a Lynn Tango: mode. Joann Seamon: sleep mode. Lynn Tango: Okay. Oh yeah I like that I like the idea of um putting the logo in the boot up screen, nice. Um. Um cool so any last things before we break? Alright. Fair enough. Josette Hoffman: We're Lynn Tango: Sounds Josette Hoffman: good? Lynn Tango: good. I'm gonna save th a copy of this in case you guys need any reminders. I'm gonna save a copy of this and the minutes that I'll do it in a second and put them in the shared folder for later reference. Joann Seamon: I've put my files in the shared folder as well. Lynn Tango: Brilliant. Josette Hoffman: Yeah. Lynn Tango: That's fab guys. Cool.

Lynn Tango went over new requirements for the project: that the device was solely to control television, and that there would not be a teletext component. Andrea Scott gave his presentation on the basic components of a remote control device, and advised the group to use plastic for the casing material instead of metal. Joann Seamon presented the technical functions of remote controls and compared the interfaces of two existing remote control products. Josette Hoffman made a presentation of the needs and the desires of the consumer and emphasized simplicity as one of the most desired features. The group discussed in more detail the features that will be added to the device: the possible applications of voice recognition, the touch screen menu interface, faceplates, and the look of the company logo.

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Sandra Preston: That went well, thank you. Eleanor Alvarez: That's great. Sandra Preston: Perfect. Bridget Irvine: 'Kay. Eleanor Alvarez: Alright, let Sandra Preston just PowerPoint this up. Eleanor Alvarez: Right so um this meeting will be about the conceptual design, don't ask Sandra Preston s precisely what conceptual design is, it's just something important that we need to do. Um, think of it 's kind of uh turning the abstract into slightly more concrete. In this meeting ideally we'll come to some final decisions on what we're gonna do for the prototype. Um. Right so um, apologies for the last meeting, it was brought my attention that I did not make the roles clear enough, um, so I will attempt to do so more accurately in this particular meeting. Um, fair enough, thanks for the input, 's always good. Um. So, basically all we're gonna do is have some presentations again much like last time, um, and gonna go through you, uh whoever wants to go first is f fine by Sandra Preston um and we'll collate what we know about um what we discussed in the last meeting, possible directions. And then we'll make some more decisions on um basic uh firm up our idea on how we want this remote control to look and work. So, perfect. So, without th further ado, whoever wants to go first is free to. Bridget Irvine: I'll go first. Sandra Preston: Go ahead. Eleanor Alvarez: Alright Nathan, take it away. Eleanor Alvarez: It is Nathan right? I'm not calling you the wrong name over Bridget Irvine: No Eleanor Alvarez: and over Bridget Irvine: Nathan's Eleanor Alvarez: again? Bridget Irvine: fine. Eleanor Alvarez: Good. Bridget Irvine: It's either Nathan or participant two. Laurie Lockett: Mister Bridget Irvine: Uh. Laurie Lockett: participant two that is. Sandra Preston: Nice. Bridget Irvine: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: Nice. Bridget Irvine: Um, basically what I'm gonna have to talk to you about today is um component design and it's been brought to my attention that we may be somewhat limited as to what we can do because of what our manufacturer offers, so Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Bridget Irvine: Basically what I'm gonna be doing is talking to you about that. Um, components of a remote control, okay. We've already kind of gone over this but we're gonna have to get into more detail and probably have to reach some conclusions some time soon. Energy source, um, our manufacturer offers a variety of energy sources, your standard battery, solar cells. Our manufacturer didn't say anything about lithium so we might have to look if we do go that route, we might have to look elsewhere. Um, and also there's a kinetic energy possibility. Basically, it's like a um the idea of moving the remote would create enough energy to keep it running. So that's one possibility but I don't know whether that would be powerful enough to illuminate a touch screen. Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. Sandra Preston: Mm. Bridget Irvine: So we'll have to look into that. Um, the case, we have a few options, plastic, rubber or wood. Um and then as far as the way it's shaped, we can do standard boring flat, which we probably don't wanna do, curved or very sexy double curved. Eleanor Alvarez: What kind of th thickness are we looking at? Bridget Irvine: Um, I imagine that we could specify. Um, I don't see any reason to go outside of the convention of three or four millimetres. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay, Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: brilliant. Bridget Irvine: Um, the buttons, there are multiple scroll buttons available from our manufacturer, but to use those we'd have to use more chips, um and that would cost us more. And if we do go with the rubber doubled curved case um we'll have to use rubber push buttons because the other buttons aren't compatible Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. Bridget Irvine: with that. Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: Um and just a little note there, touch screen equals many chips which equals many Euro. Sandra Preston: Right. Nice. Bridget Irvine: Um, one thing that I noticed was that most remotes operate on a infrare on the infrared part of the spectrum. So you notice when you push a button on a remote you can't see anything coming out of it but in fact there is light coming out of the remote and you know the television can detect that. And if you were to record if you were to make a video recording you could actually see the light. Uh one thing that I thought might be interesting was to use part use visible light coming out of the remote, just kind of as a fun gimmick. Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. Bridget Irvine: So you Sandra Preston: Interesting. Bridget Irvine: could actually see something coming out of the remote when you pushed it. Course it'd have to be a part of the spectrum that wouldn't damage the human eye or anything Sandra Preston: Mm. Bridget Irvine: like that. Sandra Preston: Good call. Eleanor Alvarez: M Maybe is there an option that we can have that off or on so a person can select like Sandra Preston: Choose Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Sandra Preston: it. Bridget Irvine: I am sure that we could do that. Um, of Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah Bridget Irvine: course Eleanor Alvarez: I like the idea, it's a good idea. Bridget Irvine: Yeah, just as a fun gimmick. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: Just to set us apart a little bit. Um, and then on to the circuit board that we're gonna use, also known as the chip. Uh, we really don't have any way around the T_A_ one one eight three five. Um findings, okay, we're very limited by what our current manufacturers can offer, um and my question to all of you is, should we look to other manufacturies or should we just make do with what we have available? Laurie Lockett: Interesting question. Bridget Irvine: 'S a bit of a challenge question. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: Well Laurie Lockett: Yes. Sandra Preston: I'd say shop around but with our time constraints, is that really a feasible option? Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Bridget Irvine: Right, that's my concern too. Um, if we do go the lithium battery route then we'll have to go outside our current manufacturer. My personal preference is I'll just throw my cards on the table, uh I think we should probably go the solar battery route, just to kinda keep with the environmentally friendly theme that we have going on. Uh, I like the idea of the visible light signalling, that's something to set us apart and uh I was thinking about I was thinking of ways that we could produce the remote in a variety of different case materials to suit different tastes. So we're not so confined by one style and say some Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: you know, say our the one if we just go with one and it doesn't go over well then we're in a bad situation. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: Can we do marketing piloting too? Try to see what kind before we launch can we see Sandra Preston: Um Eleanor Alvarez: how they're received? Sandra Preston: It's an option, uh but actually there's I've got some research already on like what we're looking at and trends Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. Sandra Preston: in casing right now Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. Sandra Preston: which actually might even come into play beforehand, Eleanor Alvarez: Okay, Sandra Preston: it Eleanor Alvarez: perfect. Sandra Preston: may help us decide for now. Eleanor Alvarez: Great, thank Sandra Preston: Temporarily Eleanor Alvarez: you very much Sandra Preston: anyway. Bridget Irvine: Oh yeah, Eleanor Alvarez: Nathan. That's Bridget Irvine: you're Eleanor Alvarez: perfect, Bridget Irvine: welcome. Eleanor Alvarez: so I guess that makes sense for you to take it from here. Sandra Preston: I guess so, 'cause I found some interesting things. You Eleanor Alvarez: Fascinating, Sandra Preston: waiting Laurie Lockett: Did Eleanor Alvarez: compelling Laurie Lockett: you? Sandra Preston: for Sandra Preston? Eleanor Alvarez: even. Sandra Preston: I know, what a teaser ain't it. Um. Right. So current market trends. Screen. Um, basically I was looking at what's going on in the remote control market right now and what's going on in other design fields, to see sort of what's what's trendy, what's new, what's happening. Um, remote control right now basically everybody says they want newer, fancier, more exciting they're sick of this boring, normal, functional, um that we need innovative design options and there needs to be an easy user interface. Um the challenge is that current trends right now, across the board in fashion, in furniture, in technology, is a very organic fruit and vegetable kind of thing. Now I'm not saying we should have, you know, tomato shaped remote controls or anything, but I think it is possible maybe to use um natural colours, like if wood is an option, Bridget Irvine: Mm. Sandra Preston: that whole organic, sleek, clean, v line thing may be something we can look into. Different skin options, or if we can't afford this touch plate thing, or touch face screen interface um, maybe having the b images be specific, like you could choose your menu bullets to be Eleanor Alvarez: Tomatoes. Sandra Preston: a different shape or okay, not the example I would choose, but you know what I mean to t sort of and th apparently the feel of the next couple of years is spongy, Bridget Irvine: Mm. Sandra Preston: uh not Laurie Lockett: I Sandra Preston: something Laurie Lockett: like Sandra Preston: I Laurie Lockett: it, Sandra Preston: I've Laurie Lockett: I like Sandra Preston: come Laurie Lockett: it. Sandra Preston: up with a though if we can get around to getting piloting, I thought maybe a casing option like uh not like a skin, but like a holder almost Bridget Irvine: Hmm. Sandra Preston: if you could do like um, leather options or wood options or something Bridget Irvine: I should have mentioned this um. As far as the rubber that we can use Sandra Preston: Mm-hmm. Bridget Irvine: we can use a rubber as part of the case, it has a consistency of those stress balls. Laurie Lockett: Yes. Sandra Preston: Mm. Might be an Laurie Lockett: Fabulous. Sandra Preston: interesting Eleanor Alvarez: Slick, Sandra Preston: way to go. Eleanor Alvarez: slick. Sandra Preston: Um, yeah so something to sit on for now. So overall I think we should stick with what we're finding, everyone's looking for easy to use, technologically innovative and this fancy new I think perhaps the double curve thing and maybe this rubber Bridget Irvine: Mm. Sandra Preston: option is our best way to go for right now. Um. Eleanor Alvarez: Interface, oh the interface graphics for Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: the um Sandra Preston: Um. Well I d but then if the touch screen thing isn't Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Sandra Preston: gonna work out for us that's really a non-issue. Bridget Irvine: I like the idea of of rubber too because it's tends to be associated with being durable, something that you can drop and it doesn't Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Bridget Irvine: matter. Sandra Preston: True. Bridget Irvine: 'Cause so many you go to so many houses these days and you see broken remote controls. Sandra Preston: Very true. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah, Sandra Preston: Very Bridget Irvine: Taped Eleanor Alvarez: it's Sandra Preston: true. Eleanor Alvarez: like, Bridget Irvine: with duck tape Eleanor Alvarez: yep Bridget Irvine: and Sandra Preston: Very Bridget Irvine: what have Sandra Preston: much Bridget Irvine: you, Sandra Preston: so. Bridget Irvine: you wouldn't have that problem Sandra Preston: Um Eleanor Alvarez: it's Bridget Irvine: if Eleanor Alvarez: ubiquitous Bridget Irvine: you used rubber. Laurie Lockett: We can Eleanor Alvarez: isn't Laurie Lockett: have a Eleanor Alvarez: it? Laurie Lockett: duck tape casing. Sandra Preston: We could. I think that goes against the whole fancy something, a new line, but worth a shot. Laurie Lockett: It could go with the granola crowd. Sandra Preston: Ah, it could be, it could be, um. Yeah that's what I know. Eleanor Alvarez: Great, thanks for that Sarah. Sandra Preston: No problem. Eleanor Alvarez: Ron? Laurie Lockett: Phew. Laurie Lockett: Computer's adjusting. One moment please. So interme interface concept by your faithful user interface designer. So yur user interface, guys, is basically aspects of a computer system that can see or hear otherwise uh perceive. Uh, commands and mechanisms, that basically user uses to control the operator operating system. Here's a d series of different remote controls that are out on the market today. I think we're definitely trying to get away from this kind of a look. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah Laurie Lockett: Um, so the following are a bunch of different uh interface uh concepts. Uh voice recognition, we we um actually have some new uh information from our research design team but uh I'll get to that in a moment. Um, so current voice recognition starts up to about eighty speech samples, um and basically you record your own verbal labels c and connect them to the remote control. Now our design team, research team, has been able to uh set up a system in which uh you can teach the remote control voice c recognition system to respond to um with standard responses. Like you could say good morning uh remote control and it'll say in a sexy female voice, Good morning Joe. Um. In fact we already have Sandra Preston: Mm. Laurie Lockett: this for a coffee maker line Eleanor Alvarez: Lot of single people on the um on the re on the remote control Laurie Lockett: On the remote Eleanor Alvarez: research Laurie Lockett: control Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: team at the Laurie Lockett: right. Sandra Preston: Very true, very true. Laurie Lockett: Um, another concept is what uh Apple has come up with, the spinning Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Laurie Lockett: wheel with uh L_C_ display like on the uh iPod which I am sure most of you know about. Sandra Preston: Mm. Laurie Lockett: Um and then we have the scroll button with integrated push-button, kind Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Laurie Lockett: of like a modern a bit Bridget Irvine: Mm. Laurie Lockett: bulky, a bit crazy, I don't think that's we're necessarily going for. Bridget Irvine: No. Laurie Lockett: And uh some special components, uh ideas like uh blocking, having the ability to block channels from your for your children um and uh dedicated buttons for for commonly used uh channels and even uh ideas like secured or hidden programming but uh I again if we go with touch screen I don't think that's a big issue. Um and uh this is kind of the uh the big daddy Sandra Preston: Hmm. Laurie Lockett: of remote controls here. Uh the jumbo universal remote control is almost impossible to misplace or Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah, Laurie Lockett: lose. Eleanor Alvarez: I can see. Laurie Lockett: Um, again probably not what we're going for so I I mean my ideas here and kind of where I think we're heading is something slightly larger than a regular iPod uh with a hard cla Sandra Preston: Okay. Laurie Lockett: c uh plastic casing although I think some of the suggestions we've come up with are definitely uh very good ideas. Uh changeable casings uh our design team was possibly talking about including one extra face plate with the package to kind of set the idea that you can Sandra Preston: Mm, Laurie Lockett: change Sandra Preston: right. Laurie Lockett: it and you can try changing it and kind of get used to thinking about maybe buying another one which can add value to our uh bottom line. Uh touch screen interface, um possibly having go-to buttons being uh stuck into the system so those don't move away from the screen, uh, the important ones like power, volume and jump between channels. Um, and of course our voice command system which I've talked a little bit about already Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Laurie Lockett: and uh the use of recognisable colours and shapes to aid recognition of the features um that are around so red for power, um Sandra Preston: Mm. Laurie Lockett: arrows for different volume ups and downs and channels ups and downs and what not. And uh perhaps even adding in some stupid little jokes with the voice recognition idea like perh mm for instance my toastie maker that I got from my bank has jokes when it's ready. Sandra Preston: Nice. Eleanor Alvarez: Great. Laurie Lockett: And uh that is about it. Eleanor Alvarez: Great, wonderful Ron, cool. Lot of good ideas, good facts to have. Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: That's what they need, it's like a little dongle it just sticks up this further so you don't have to stand up every time, just Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: connect Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: it, my kingdom. Right so, good to know all that stuff, thanks guys, um. Now we kind of have to come to some decisions, um, I figure we can just go down the line and all three of us can have a chat about it. Um. Based on what Nathan presented as far as the um various costs and benefits um I think, I dunno, what do you guys think about the touch screen at this point? Sandra Preston: I think it's our most marketable feature just because it's so new and it's something that is showing up in other places. Eleanor Alvarez: 'Kay. 'Kay. Sandra Preston: But can we really afford it 'cause it looks like they would be, that would be a really main cost source then Eleanor Alvarez: Mm-hmm. Sandra Preston: right? Bridget Irvine: My estimate is that in order to incorporate touch screen technology it's gonna cost us upwards of seventeen fifty Euro Eleanor Alvarez: To produce Sandra Preston: Per? Bridget Irvine: per remote, Eleanor Alvarez: each one. Bridget Irvine: yeah that's just an estimate Sandra Preston: Piece. Bridget Irvine: though. Laurie Lockett: Oh you guys are always the dampers on these projects. Sandra Preston: I know Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Laurie Lockett: You industrial designers. Bridget Irvine: I know. It's Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. Bridget Irvine: fun. Sandra Preston: And our goal was to be under twelve fifty or we have to be under twelve fifty? Eleanor Alvarez: Well. Sandra Preston: Do we remember? Bridget Irvine: I thought there was some flexibility with that. Sandra Preston: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: There is, it's just, it is a question Sandra Preston: Can Eleanor Alvarez: of Sandra Preston: we justify it? Eleanor Alvarez: and how much ca o does that mean we're gonna have to increase the price to make money. Um, from twelve fifty if we d wanna get our fift uh hundred per cent profit margin um that would mean selling it from twenty five. If you multiply seventeen fifty by two that's thirty five. Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: So Laurie Lockett: Where do you guys come up with these numbers? Bridget Irvine: That's just off the top of my head, it is pending further emails. Eleanor Alvarez: From the board, Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: um, well Sandra Preston: Though I think that's what people would pay for, I mean if you're gonna pay for an expensive high class remote, you're gonna expect it to do something Eleanor Alvarez: That's true, I mean Bridget Irvine: It is the new it would be in a class of its own. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: And that's to be fair the um the per cent of the market we're not going for mass any you know, mass sales anyway, we're gonna make I mean we we're not talking about selling eight zillion of these things, we just couldn't, Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: not for twenty-five Euros, so we could probably maybe shrink the profit margins rather than selling for twenty five, sell 'em for thirty, but that's something that we can have finance deal with. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: Um, I say that we provisionally go with the touch screen or wh y wh what was your thought on the matter Ron? Laurie Lockett: I'm thinking that's uh definitely a good idea and I also think that we could probably come up with some sort of a cheaper uh means to to go about this kind of production, Sandra Preston: See if we can cut Laurie Lockett: my Sandra Preston: some corners. Laurie Lockett: my team in the uh on the third floor suggested that uh Sandra Preston: Right. Well and we can look into this other manufacturing option, and maybe we can get 'em somewhere else cheaper. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Laurie Lockett: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: It's true. We could initially go with what we have and Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: if we can find them Sandra Preston: It's Bridget Irvine: cheaper Sandra Preston: a starting Bridget Irvine: later Sandra Preston: point Bridget Irvine: on Sandra Preston: anyway, so. Eleanor Alvarez: No we could have a s very simple touch screen, you know, there's always the opportunity, if it's gonna be about the size of the iPod or whatever, you know, w we yeah, I guess we can play around with it a bit. Alright, let's Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: let's say that okay so the touch screen will be our um our main selling point here. Laurie Lockett: I Eleanor Alvarez: So Laurie Lockett: mean I think that we really have two main selling points, Sandra Preston: Yeah 'cause Laurie Lockett: I think Sandra Preston: with voice Laurie Lockett: that our casing Sandra Preston: recognition Laurie Lockett: and the voice recognition Sandra Preston: I mean really this is pretty bells and whistles kinda remote. Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: The voice rec thing, I mean, if if we're looking at bottom line, now we're looking at upping the cost to seventeen to get the touch screen on, I think we might have to drop the voice rec. Sandra Preston: I think we'd have to decide between 'em definitely. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Laurie Lockett: To be honest, we Sandra Preston: Price-wise. Laurie Lockett: have the capa we have the design in-house, I mean we've we've come up with this, with Sandra Preston: True. Laurie Lockett: this new voice we're Sandra Preston: We've Laurie Lockett: using Sandra Preston: already got Laurie Lockett: it for Sandra Preston: it. Laurie Lockett: our coffee machines already. I can pass you on that email from my uh guy in uh guy down the hall. Sounds good. Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. voice rec? Bridget Irvine: I think if we we do both the obviously production costs are going to go way up um but it does put it into it'd become the Rolls Royce of remote controls basically. Sandra Preston: Pretty much. Bridget Irvine: It would be very nice. Laurie Lockett: I mean we we have to r reflect back on what our market research did say. Sandra Preston: Right and they said they wanted voice recognition. Course, maybe they hadn't thought of this whole touch screen option, but definitely we know the market is there for voice recognition so to say we have the technology and we're not gonna use it even though we know it'll sell is a call I don't think I can give the highs ups. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: Like really I can't go in and say no we're gonna just ignore everything we know. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Laurie Lockett: Does having both really up our costs? Eleanor Alvarez: I can't see how it wouldn't, I mean, there's you know the old aphorism, you can have it fast, you can have it cheap or you can have it quality, pick two of three. You know, you can't Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: you can't have all three. Bridget Irvine: Yeah, 'cause you Eleanor Alvarez: It's Bridget Irvine: you Eleanor Alvarez: just Bridget Irvine: just Eleanor Alvarez: impossible. Bridget Irvine: upping the number of chips that you need to deal with each different Sandra Preston: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: function. Eleanor Alvarez: Well if we're gonna pick betwe e alright so we have to pick between one of the two. Um. Otherwise, yeah, we just it just becomes cost prohibitive. What which, which do we suspect we should hold o we should hold on to? Sandra Preston: Well, we already have research backing voice recognition as you know fiscally solvent. But uh I I I personally would tend to another direction but if that's what's gonna sell I think that's what we need to go with and maybe we can table this touch screen for our next model. Bridget Irvine: I would have to side with that, I think Eleanor Alvarez: 'Kay. Bridget Irvine: the voice recognition is simpler, we already have the all the technology in-house, it's ready to go, it's packaged, it's Eleanor Alvarez: What does the cost look like Ron? Is it cheaper to do the V_R_ or to do the uh touch screen? Nathan? Laurie Lockett: Well my p Sandra Preston: Mm. Laurie Lockett: is Bridget Irvine: Um, this is just off the top of my head keep in mind, but I think the voice recognition would they're both mm they're both gonna push the costs up, but um, since we already have the technology Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Bridget Irvine: in-house for the voice recognition we're not gonna have to do as much Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: design work and sometimes the design work is what push the costs up, Eleanor Alvarez: Right. Bridget Irvine: if you know what I mean. Sandra Preston: Right. Laurie Lockett: Um, I definitely have to agree with that last Sandra Preston: And Laurie Lockett: comment. Sandra Preston: we're still not then we don't have to deal with this battery issue nearly as much either, Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: we can stick with what we've already got. In a lot other ways too. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. So I'm getting alright so more or less you guys think that o o of the two of 'em, the voice recognition will be better. Okay. Sandra Preston: I think it's our lower risk option which Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Sandra Preston: for right now we can have it on the market sooner which is all in all our best option. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. Sorted. We will omit the touch screen in favour of voice recognition. Laurie Lockett: It's you and Sandra Preston outside a little here. Sandra Preston: So and when are we gonna have basic prototypes coming up next that's you guys's next step right? Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah, well we'll we'll sic we'll sort out what it what f what else we're gonna talk about Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: for Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: the prototype but yeah that's our next step, it'll Sandra Preston: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: be a developing Bridget Irvine: Are Eleanor Alvarez: of Bridget Irvine: we Eleanor Alvarez: prototype. Bridget Irvine: going to talk now about um the materials that we're gonna use for Eleanor Alvarez: Yes. Bridget Irvine: the case and Sandra Preston: Mm-hmm. Eleanor Alvarez: We'll Bridget Irvine: all Eleanor Alvarez: just Bridget Irvine: those Eleanor Alvarez: run Bridget Irvine: things? Eleanor Alvarez: through it yeah, Bridget Irvine: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: yeah, um. You discussed either a lithium or a solar power. Would the solar power be enough to fuel a voice recognition? Or this kinesthetic one, would that be enough to fuel a voice recognition remote Bridget Irvine: Um, Eleanor Alvarez: control? Bridget Irvine: the solar power definitely would be but I think just to keep people from getting annoyed, 'cause sometimes solar power fails and there's no way round that, we should install a small backup battery. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: Just to cover those moments when for whatever reason, the remote hasn't Sandra Preston: Well what Bridget Irvine: been Sandra Preston: of Bridget Irvine: exposed Sandra Preston: people with like Bridget Irvine: to Sandra Preston: the T_V_ in their basement, Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: like what if Eleanor Alvarez: Yep. Sandra Preston: wha we can't guarantee sunlight everywhere so having a Bridget Irvine: It's Sandra Preston: secondary Bridget Irvine: true. Sandra Preston: source is probably Bridget Irvine: Yeah, it works about the same as a solar powered calculator, Laurie Lockett: Calculator. Bridget Irvine: and you know Sandra Preston: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: how those those don't really Sandra Preston: True. Bridget Irvine: require that much light, Sandra Preston: True. Bridget Irvine: um, but obviously a little more light than a calculator, but we're not talking about a lot of light. Doesn't have to be out taking a sunbath for Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: a few Eleanor Alvarez: Right. Bridget Irvine: hours a day or anything. Sandra Preston: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. What do you think Ron? Laurie Lockett: I'm willing to agree with everything that's been said. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. Laurie Lockett: Uh I have to say though that um another idea's come up in my head. idea of having a hand-held remote control and maybe kind of have a round remote control that kind of looks like a paperweight or something like that, kind of Sandra Preston: Uh Laurie Lockett: a sleek little uh Eleanor Alvarez: Hmm. Laurie Lockett: neat Bridget Irvine: Hmm. Laurie Lockett: thing that sits on your table or something. Sandra Preston: Interesting. Bridget Irvine: Why, Laurie Lockett: Just a thought. Bridget Irvine: why Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: moving away from hand-held, why? What's the uh Laurie Lockett: Well Bridget Irvine: idea? Laurie Lockett: if you don't need to pick it up it could kind Sandra Preston: I Laurie Lockett: of Sandra Preston: if Laurie Lockett: be Sandra Preston: it's Laurie Lockett: a selling Sandra Preston: got voice Laurie Lockett: point. Sandra Preston: recognition it can be technically anywhere in your room and Bridget Irvine: Hmm. Sandra Preston: still do its job. Bridget Irvine: Do you think people that are people that buy a remote, are they always gonna wanna use the voice recognition or is it just something that they do sometimes. Sandra Preston: True, and i probabl I think we're banking on selling it to more than just voice recognition people, like we want it to work fundamentally Eleanor Alvarez: Well Sandra Preston: as Eleanor Alvarez: we have Sandra Preston: a basic Eleanor Alvarez: to have buttons Sandra Preston: manual Eleanor Alvarez: on it too Sandra Preston: too, Eleanor Alvarez: as well. Sandra Preston: right. Eleanor Alvarez: But that's done, that's no bother I mean if you look at the catalogue from places like with sharper image or whatever you know they might have or like um who is it, Apple makes these really pretentious speakers with the th sub-woofers you know like clear and glass Sandra Preston: Mm-hmm. Eleanor Alvarez: and you know and Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: then they got these little Sandra Preston: Yep. Eleanor Alvarez: pyramidal type of um speakers. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: I mean, why not have a little rounded kind of thing, it could still have the basic buttons on it. Um, 'cause we're going for basic functionality primarily as well. Sandra Preston: With the bu yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: And maybe a menu button and so forth, you know um use a channel button to scroll through the menu d if they want to record programmes or whatever you know I mean we Bridget Irvine: I Eleanor Alvarez: can Bridget Irvine: think, Eleanor Alvarez: sort Sandra Preston: Mm-hmm. Eleanor Alvarez: that Bridget Irvine: I think Eleanor Alvarez: out. Bridget Irvine: you're on to something because Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: we need to escape the traditional shape of a remote. Maybe something Sandra Preston: True. Bridget Irvine: that looks nice on a table is would be good, Sandra Preston: Way Bridget Irvine: even Sandra Preston: to go. Bridget Irvine: though and hand-held the same time. Laurie Lockett: I think it's all about following Apple's lead on a lot of these Sandra Preston: Yeah Laurie Lockett: things. Sandra Preston: I'm thinking of the airport Laurie Lockett: Mm-hmm. Sandra Preston: portal, you know Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Sandra Preston: like that little pod looking thing? Bridget Irvine: Yeah, Laurie Lockett: Exactly. Bridget Irvine: those are nice. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah, I mean a nice although we do um wh uh is I'm recalling that she mentioned that we n need to get away from the surgical white kind of brushed Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: aluminium thing Bridget Irvine: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: and get back to it but you could have a very tasteful um wood coloured or earth Sandra Preston: That would Eleanor Alvarez: tone Sandra Preston: be kinda Eleanor Alvarez: kind Sandra Preston: neat. Eleanor Alvarez: of um Sandra Preston: Terracotta bowl or something. Eleanor Alvarez: Still, I mean, yeah, along those lines. Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah I like that, I like that idea a lot. Um, let's see what we can do as far as that goes. Bridget Irvine: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: And the uh the material like the plastics and so forth, we were discussing that being uh using like a rubber kind of softer feel, Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: um you know li lik if you feel the the tip on this pen it's a bit gives just a bit. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: You know something where it's uh a a more advanced f form of plastic that has some kind of a tactile response to it. Bridget Irvine: Right. Just kind of the squishy feel. Sandra Preston: Yeah, which is the next big thing, so that's not gonna hurt us either. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm 'kay. Yeah let's see if we can do a squishy non-remote control-looking remote control. But to be fair, yeah, I mean, you just c you could just put it literally put it on the the ni the coffee table next to the telly and say Sandra Preston: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: volume up. Yeah Sandra Preston: Handy. Eleanor Alvarez: I like it, I like the idea, that's good. Um and we've sorted of discussed costs, um. I guess we'll a that's gonna be uh a thing, if we run a bit over-budget, that might be okay, um. Bridget Irvine: Sorry about the uh lack of information on cost, I just haven't been provided that information by our manufacturers Sandra Preston: Okay. Bridget Irvine: and Eleanor Alvarez: We'll have more Bridget Irvine: I'm just Eleanor Alvarez: of an Bridget Irvine: having Eleanor Alvarez: idea when Bridget Irvine: to Eleanor Alvarez: the Bridget Irvine: guess. Eleanor Alvarez: prototype have more of a we'll have more of an idea later on. Um. And we just yeah go from there. Um, so we've revisited the touch screen and more or less ruled that out, um, I think so we're more or less con we wh wh we're more or less in agreement that we want to have a um a simple kind of function, you Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: know, not too complex. Sandra Preston: Right. Well when the majority of people are only using the most primary functions on a daily basis, although I'm not saying we should completely rule out major functions, they should be secondary, at least if not functionally then visually, like those shouldn't be Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: Like maybe have menu Sandra Preston: Take precedence, Eleanor Alvarez: things. Bridget Irvine: If, Sandra Preston: yeah. Bridget Irvine: if we're not going the touch-screen route then we can um just incorporate maybe something that folds out like what Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: you often see Eleanor Alvarez: Mm. Bridget Irvine: on these kinds of remotes is the most basic functions up here and Sandra Preston: And Bridget Irvine: something Sandra Preston: they slide. Bridget Irvine: that slides down to reveal the you know more complicated things. Eleanor Alvarez: Yes. Sandra Preston: Well and do we wanna consider like an iPod screen which isn't a touch screen but you're still scrolling through menu options, in p Laurie Lockett: Think then we're hitting our cost issue again. Sandra Preston: True, we're Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah Sandra Preston: still Eleanor Alvarez: we've Bridget Irvine: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: also Sandra Preston: not making Eleanor Alvarez: got the Sandra Preston: it easier Eleanor Alvarez: Sandra Preston Sandra Preston: then. Eleanor Alvarez: the thing of, if we're gonna have a non-remote-looking remote, Sandra Preston: True. Eleanor Alvarez: how do we yeah. Sandra Preston: Fair enough. Eleanor Alvarez: B But no I mean we could do a slide or a compartment, you know, like if it say it's Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: a lit little vaguely ovoidal type of thing, it'd be easy to have a compartment in there. Or you know, a b a b a a series of you know three or four buttons with a menu button and then a side an s up and down type of thing, like on um like on a D_V_D_ player. You Sandra Preston: Mm-hmm. Eleanor Alvarez: know you see the modern D_V_D_ players'll just have um a menu button on the side and then Sandra Preston: Yeah it's Eleanor Alvarez: four Sandra Preston: just a Eleanor Alvarez: buttons Sandra Preston: scroll. Eleanor Alvarez: around them and you Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: can just kind of manoeuvre Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: through the menu like that. Bridget Irvine: So are we gonna are we talking we need to figure out what kind of buttons we're going to use, are we going to use scroll buttons? Rubber buttons? Um Eleanor Alvarez: Well it seems like I dunno it seems to Sandra Preston that we could just do the um stick with the rubber 'cause since we're probably gonna be using Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: some kind of um rubber for the outside case we Sandra Preston: Probably. Eleanor Alvarez: might as well stick with that um. Bridget Irvine: Right. Laurie Lockett: I think to a certain extent we have to stick with uh kind of uh a little bit traditional in terms of the buttons and then Sandra Preston: Right. Laurie Lockett: and then make our unique feature our casing and what not Sandra Preston: Mm. Laurie Lockett: and our voice command. Sandra Preston: Well no it's basic just like four directions that are that can use as menu or channel and volume or however you wanna do it, are really versatile and everybody's already got them to some extent on the remotes they already own so it's not like we're dealing with everybody relearning things 'cause that's not something anybody's gonna wanna buy a new for. Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: Mm 'kay, um. We've already kind of covered this as well. That seems to be selling um and we we've more or less agreed that we want to kar target this youth market, Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: um. Especially now with eighteen to thirty five year olds being such a large quantity of the population. Sandra Preston: Right, particularly in technological fields, so Eleanor Alvarez: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Sandra Preston: that's exactly where we're headed. Eleanor Alvarez: Okay. Um. Yeah alright, well, more or less covered what we need to cover I think fi an an any final thoughts before we think about doing the protot moving on to the prototype. Laurie Lockett: Well what are we actually doing? What Eleanor Alvarez: Right. Laurie Lockett: were Eleanor Alvarez: I was just gonna step on to um Sandra Preston: Uh. Oh it wasn't in the way but Eleanor Alvarez: I wasn't? Sandra Preston: yeah, Eleanor Alvarez: Oh, my Sandra Preston: whatever. Eleanor Alvarez: bad um sorry. Sandra Preston: No, don't worry about it. Eleanor Alvarez: The um, yeah okay I was just gonna assign tasks in the next Laurie Lockett: Sure. Eleanor Alvarez: b anyth any oth any other Sandra Preston: Okay. Eleanor Alvarez: final thoughts before we go ahead and cool? Bridget Irvine: So Sandra Preston: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: have we decided that we are gonna go with different style cases for different people? Or are we just Eleanor Alvarez: Um. Bridget Irvine: going to go with one? ..It's very, it's very hard thing to predict because Sandra Preston: Yeah. Bridget Irvine: you have different cases and that might open up your market a little bit obviously, but if you have just one case and it doesn't go very well mm. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah. Sandra Preston: Right. Bridget Irvine: It's a tough situation, but obviously having more cases also costs more so Eleanor Alvarez: Well then again colours wouldn't be so hard to do, you could have uh Bridget Irvine: There's an idea. Eleanor Alvarez: a, you know, a um uh kind of a natural wood colour, like a stained wood and Sandra Preston: Mm. Eleanor Alvarez: um, I don't know, olive green or something. Sandra Preston: Yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: That wouldn't be so much of a problem to incorporate into the colour of the thing. Laurie Lockett: And again copying iMac's kind of for iPod Mac Sandra Preston: Yeah, Laurie Lockett: Apple's Sandra Preston: get Laurie Lockett: uh Sandra Preston: in there. Laurie Lockett: colour scheme. Sandra Preston: Yeah, totally. Eleanor Alvarez: Yeah, I think that's probably a good Bridget Irvine okay so let's work on uh multiple case colours. But yeah, stick with the same kind of kinda yeah, the same basic non-remote kind of remote design. Cool. Alright, so we'll have the next meeting about half an hour, um. I want the uh I'd like Nathan, I'd like you to work on just the basic look and feel, what can we accomplish, um, given these parameters that we're just gonna sort of have this kind of uh non-remote remote. Um, Bridget Irvine: Right. Eleanor Alvarez: what are our broad constraints before we deve design a prototype. And um Ron if you can figure out how probably best to lay out this idea of this simple design with the voice recognition built in and also this kind of drop down or s on the side kind of menu options simple. Somehow work out how we can get this all s in the same place. Um, and if you can check product evaluation with m some pilots and stuff. Um I need you guys to work together on making a prototype, um using um prototype building materials um. And also um specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches as Bridget Irvine: Oh Eleanor Alvarez: well. Bridget Irvine: excellent yeah. Eleanor Alvarez: So that's what to start with for now, is that alright, Sandra Preston: Cool. Eleanor Alvarez: you guys feel Bridget Irvine: That Eleanor Alvarez: clear Bridget Irvine: sounds Eleanor Alvarez: about this? Bridget Irvine: good. Laurie Lockett: Fabulous. Eleanor Alvarez: Alright. I guess we'll just hit the bricks. Thanks guys. Sandra Preston: Cool.

Bridget Irvine presented an analysis of cost and the manufacturing options that were available to the group. Sandra Preston presented market trends and the organic trend that this project would adopt. She discussed materials that could be used to follow this trend. Laurie Lockett presented several interface concepts including voice recognition, a spinning wheel design, and a touch screen interface. The group then discussed the features of the device. They discussed the costs and benefits of using either voice recognition or the touch screen interface, and decided on voice recognition based on their marketing data that favored it. They decided to use solar power to power the device. The group discussed the non-traditional look the device could have since the voice recognition would allow it to be stationary. They discussed using rubber for the case. The group talked about hiding the complicated functions from the main interface, using rubber for the buttons, and having different cases to suit different tastes. Eleanor Alvarez reiterated that the product was being marketed towards the youth market, and then gave out assignments and instructed the group to work together to build the prototype.

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Regina Cotton: Okay. Oh I totally Yeah 'cause I moved it. 'S put it over here. Then we don't have to worry about it. Candace Woodward: Ready for this? Emma Brown: All set? Cool. Alright, it is PowerPoint time. I've done more PowerPoints in this particular experiment than I've ever done in my life before this experiment Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Emma Brown: which is kind of fun. Candace Woodward: Oh man. Emma Brown: So uh here we have our detailed design meeting where we will um look at the prototype and um right so um, I finally figured out what this whole second bullet point is about in my that my coach was sending to Regina Cotton. It means I'm supposed to read the minutes from the previous meeting. Geneva Bozarth: Oh really? Okay. Emma Brown: I think. Regina Cotton: Huh. Emma Brown: I don't know. Otherwise it's just saying I'm the secretary and I'm therefore I'm taking the minutes, s so just to go um just real briefly to go over minutes from last meeting, uh, I will open them slowly, no? Wait for it, wait for it. Regina Cotton: Yeah that's not you. Emma Brown: No. That's how the Wait. This is, this is very high-powered stuff here, double-clicking, there we go. So um basically the moral of the story from our last minute uh last meeting was that um we that we had meetings from uh we had presentations done by Geneva Bozarth, uh or from Nathan, and Ron and from Sarah about what we can do here um and what sort of limitations we're operating with um uh excuse Regina Cotton what limitations we're operating under, what kind of risk we'd be looking at with some of the various approaches we were discussing and we essentially came to the conclusion that we should develop a remote with uh voice recognition, I_E_ that had a vaguely non-remote like shape um because you didn't really need to use it as a remote since you could just use your voice. That would include some mostly just the simple design features for a television operation but with a slide or a fold-out bay for more advanced functions for users. Um, and uh the uh uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ were asked to go ahead and start developing a prototype for us to look at. So. That's sorted, back to the main meet here, um, go ahead and take it away guys. Geneva Bozarth: Well. Uh, we have assembled our prototype, um. What's to be said about it? Um, we took into account a lot of the things that we went over in the last meeting, um. Some of the most important things to consider are that we decided not to go for the touch screen which you can see Emma Brown: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: and opted for some very large buttons for the primary functions, um. This is going to be the on off button and have these buttons to go through the channels um and then two volume buttons down here, d uh we decided those were the most important uh buttons. And then, for the more advanced uh functions there is a slide out panel here um and you can see that there are lots of other things going on. But this actually can slide back in and provides a very nice aesthetic when it's all put away, um. As far as the uh whole visible light thing, we decided to go with the Regina Cotton: Ah. Geneva Bozarth: multiple colours coming out, Emma Brown: Nice. Geneva Bozarth: why not? Regina Cotton: Fair enough. Geneva Bozarth: Of course, if that's annoying for some people that function can be turned off. Emma Brown: Perfect. Geneva Bozarth: Um. Candace Woodward: No Geneva Bozarth: Go ahead. Candace Woodward: it's important to we talked a quite a bit about uh you know the the interchangeable uh faces Regina Cotton: Mm. Candace Woodward: and what we've done here is come up with a bit of a natural look here um f Regina Cotton: Right. Candace Woodward: we call it fruity if you will. Regina Cotton: Appropriate, Candace Woodward: Um. Regina Cotton: okay. Candace Woodward: Right, um, of course that's uh interchangeable and uh I think it would be desirable for the uh for the regular product in the in the in the Regina Cotton: Mm 'kay. Candace Woodward: in first to be something a little bit more subdued but this is kind of something that can be done Regina Cotton: It is an option. Candace Woodward: um and as you can see on the television there uh we have the uh voice detector device Emma Brown: Oh, right. Candace Woodward: um on Geneva Bozarth: That's Candace Woodward: the Geneva Bozarth: this Candace Woodward: top Geneva Bozarth: here. Candace Woodward: there. Regina Cotton: Ah. Candace Woodward: Um. Regina Cotton: I see. Candace Woodward: So that that will work quite well with with regard to finding this uh contraption. Um, what other things do we see here, well, um if you give it a touch it does have actually a bit of a spongy feel, um, so I think that will work well with regards to our market. Um and uh let's see, well clearly there's gonna be some more colours and what not available. Um uh do you have anything else to add to that? Geneva Bozarth: Um I worried about the materials, it is uh the entire thing is covered in a rubber coating so it's very durable uh, it's not gonna break like some types of plastic that's dropped. Um, and of course as you can see and if you touch it it does have that nice squishy feel. Candace Woodward: It's actually important to note that the television, uh you know if there's an earthquake or anything like that, that i it actually is edible inside. Geneva Bozarth: Fact, I dunno if you noticed, but I wrote the uh the company's name Emma Brown: Oh Geneva Bozarth: on the telephone Emma Brown: well Geneva Bozarth: screen, Emma Brown: done Regina Cotton: Nice. Geneva Bozarth: I thought Emma Brown: yeah, Geneva Bozarth: that was kinda Emma Brown: yeah Geneva Bozarth: nice. Emma Brown: oh Geneva Bozarth: This Emma Brown: ok Geneva Bozarth: was actually an apple on the inside. Regina Cotton: Do we need Geneva Bozarth: This Regina Cotton: to worry about um rot factors? Candace Woodward: Um it's encased in a new uh type of uh Regina Cotton: Oh okay, there's preservatives Candace Woodward: polymer Regina Cotton: involved, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: we don't Candace Woodward: yeah. Regina Cotton: need to worry, Candace Woodward: It's Geneva Bozarth: We Candace Woodward: fine. Regina Cotton: okay. Geneva Bozarth: got a bit ahead of ourselves, I know we're not Candace Woodward: Hmm. Regina Cotton: Fair Geneva Bozarth: talking Regina Cotton: enough. Geneva Bozarth: about making televisions at this point Emma Brown: Edible Geneva Bozarth: or anything Emma Brown: televisions, Geneva Bozarth: like Regina Cotton: No Geneva Bozarth: that, but Emma Brown: it's a Regina Cotton: but Emma Brown: wave of the future. Regina Cotton: It's a Candace Woodward: It's Regina Cotton: couple Candace Woodward: pos Regina Cotton: years off at least. Candace Woodward: a possible new Regina Cotton: Okay. Candace Woodward: product. Um, but I think that's I think that sums up the main features of our of the remote, um Emma Brown: Brilliant. Geneva Bozarth: Right. Candace Woodward: I dunno if you guys have any questions or f whether that uh whether we need to worry about any uh other marketing areas or anything of that nature. Um, did we come in under budget? Geneva Bozarth: Uh we did, yeah. This cost well to put this into um production, we're looking at about what was our goal? It was twelve fifty Euro um and this actually came in at about eleven ninety nine. Um, so I was quite pleased with that. Candace Woodward: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: One thing that we didn't do um obviously we had a choice with the buttons whether to use scroll buttons or standard rubber buttons, but we just went for a classic rubber button Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: and um since we did that we didn't have to use as many microchips which was quite nice and that's what helped keep the cost down. Emma Brown: Brilliant. Geneva Bozarth: So even though it has Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: a lot of modern technology, um for example the voice recognition, in a lot of ways it's just a simple remote Regina Cotton: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: and um Candace Woodward: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: I think if we shopped around for other manufacturers um we might be able to get even cheaper. Candace Woodward: Did Geneva Bozarth: And Candace Woodward: we talk about the voice recognition uh option? Geneva Bozarth: Oh no, we haven't talked Candace Woodward: So Geneva Bozarth: about that yet Candace Woodward: uh Geneva Bozarth: have we? Candace Woodward: so uh yeah on the back here you all noticed this area here which is actually the voice recognition uh Regina Cotton: Okay. Candace Woodward: uh console and uh I think it's nicely designed into the into the overall Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: look. Um, but basically the voice recognition uh incorporates um the latest designs that our research team has been able to cufw uh come up with. Basically uh quite similar to the coffee maker Regina Cotton: Mm Candace Woodward: um Regina Cotton: 'kay. Candace Woodward: design that we were talking about earlier and um, I think that uh has given a proven um ease of use and Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Candace Woodward: what not. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Candace Woodward: And uh allows features like the remote actually talking back to the user Regina Cotton: Right. Candace Woodward: um, so. Emma Brown: Cool. Geneva Bozarth: Any questions? Emma Brown: No, no I think that's Regina Cotton: Do we have um other, for lack of a better word, skins? Covers? In play now or are those ones gonna be developed later once we see how the couple we have g go or? Geneva Bozarth: Um, do you Regina Cotton: Do Geneva Bozarth: wanna Regina Cotton: we Geneva Bozarth: answer Regina Cotton: know Geneva Bozarth: this Regina Cotton: where we Geneva Bozarth: one Regina Cotton: stand Geneva Bozarth: or do you want Regina Cotton: on Geneva Bozarth: Regina Cotton to Regina Cotton: that Geneva Bozarth: answer Regina Cotton: yet? Geneva Bozarth: it? Candace Woodward: Well we didn't quite have enough material uh. Regina Cotton: Oh I wasn't expecting a prototype Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Regina Cotton: I just Candace Woodward: Oh Regina Cotton: didn't Candace Woodward: I see, Regina Cotton: know if you Geneva Bozarth: yeah. Regina Cotton: guys had any in mind Candace Woodward: right, Regina Cotton: yet. Geneva Bozarth: Um, Candace Woodward: um. Geneva Bozarth: well as you can see this is just a most superficial layer and um it'd be very easy to Regina Cotton: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: put another layer Regina Cotton: Just Geneva Bozarth: of Regina Cotton: veneer Geneva Bozarth: something else Regina Cotton: really, yeah. Geneva Bozarth: like Candace Woodward: Right. Regina Cotton: Okay. Candace Woodward: Actually this bottom red ring here just unclips Regina Cotton: Mm-hmm. Candace Woodward: and then you put Regina Cotton: And the Candace Woodward: a Regina Cotton: whole Candace Woodward: a new Regina Cotton: thing Candace Woodward: a new uh Regina Cotton: Okay. Candace Woodward: a new plate on top of that. Regina Cotton: Right. Candace Woodward: So I mean there are I we definitely Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: priced out Regina Cotton: There's Candace Woodward: a spongy even spongier non-natural look Regina Cotton: Okay. Candace Woodward: um materials which I think worked out fine. We also continued Regina Cotton: Mm 'kay. Candace Woodward: on with the ideas that f following uh Apple's colour schemes Regina Cotton: Okay, Candace Woodward: with the kind of the Regina Cotton: very Candace Woodward: uh Regina Cotton: cool. Candace Woodward: light orange and Geneva Bozarth: It's Candace Woodward: the Geneva Bozarth: not Candace Woodward: green. Geneva Bozarth: it's not quite a a face plate, it's more like a pseudo-face plate Regina Cotton: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: because it's simple enough that in the factory it could we could very easily put a different one on it, it locks into place such that, you know, it's pretty permanent but at the same time, if we wanna go the other way it's just a matter of a couple of adjustments and we could go Regina Cotton: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: the face plate way if you know what I mean. Regina Cotton: Yep. It's still an option if we Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: need it. Very cool, nice job. Emma Brown: Right, yeah thanks guys that's very, very good work. I like it, brilliant. Um, what we need to discuss now is the finance of it, um I got Regina Cotton you've got you provided a number that actually sounds quite nice. Um the trouble is I was just given this by finance. Geneva Bozarth: Oh. Emma Brown: Um, it's a spreadsheet of the parts and I've just tentatively put in what it's going to Geneva Bozarth: Ooh. Emma Brown: look like um. I'm just gonna clear this out real quickly, but it looks like So we'll just if we can just itemize what's in here, we've got this it's a solar cell thing right? Geneva Bozarth: Right uh Emma Brown: With Geneva Bozarth: we Emma Brown: a Geneva Bozarth: didn't Emma Brown: back-up Geneva Bozarth: really touch Emma Brown: battery? Geneva Bozarth: on that but it it's in there, yep. Emma Brown: With the ba okay. Um and Candace Woodward: The voice recognition area actually doubles as uh as the solar cell area. Emma Brown: Clever, Candace Woodward: Yeah. Emma Brown: clever, well done. Um so I guess that would mean we've got a bit of a um It's a s a speaker and a sensor at the same time isn't it? Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, yeah. It's just making use of the same space and Regina Cotton: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: the same materials, Emma Brown: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: but Emma Brown: Um and the case, it's more of a single-curved case, I guess would be that be the general Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, one big Regina Cotton: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: curve I guess you could say. Emma Brown: Um and we've got a rubber skin material basically throughout. Um. Push button interface um with this other drop-down so maybe we've got two push button interfaces don't Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Emma Brown: we? Geneva Bozarth: mm-hmm. Emma Brown: Um. And um a special I guess it's uh we've got a sort of a wood materi a rubbery type material Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, special. Emma Brown: that throughout, yeah. Geneva Bozarth: And s I guess you have to mark special colour and special form as well, don't you? 'Cause it i it is very unconventional, Emma Brown: Yeah, it's it's Geneva Bozarth: I like Emma Brown: quite Geneva Bozarth: to think Emma Brown: unique. Geneva Bozarth: of it as Emma Brown: I Geneva Bozarth: unconventional. Emma Brown: like it, yeah it's So it looks like Regina Cotton: M come in at sixteen? Emma Brown: a bit over Geneva Bozarth: Oh. Emma Brown: budget, Geneva Bozarth: Huh, Emma Brown: um. Geneva Bozarth: doesn't match up does it? Emma Brown: So what we could do perhaps, a simple fix would maybe to switch away from the solar cells um or take out the back-up battery. Geneva Bozarth: How do Emma Brown: Uh Geneva Bozarth: you feel about that? Candace Woodward: I mean I think that uh if we're talking about it being one of our main selling features, being environmental and without the batteries and what not, although it does still have a battery so I'm not sure that Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: you know what the sell is on that. Geneva Bozarth: I mean we could take we could take the battery out of it you see and it'd probably work ninety nine per cent of the time but you're gonna have to set up a call centre for that one per cent of the time when people are calling and saying oh look my remote isn't working what Emma Brown: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: am I Regina Cotton: Mm Geneva Bozarth: gonna do? Regina Cotton: k. Emma Brown: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: People'd be real upset. I Regina Cotton: True. Geneva Bozarth: think in the long-run it's better to keep the battery, it's hard to scrap the whole cell battery idea 'cause that's so integral to the theme that we have. Emma Brown: Hmm. Emma Brown: What's difficult, we have all these things integral to the um to the design Regina Cotton: Nah. Emma Brown: of it that we just can't back out of now, it would have to be seems like we'd have to go back to square one in a way. Um if we were gonna try to undo one bit we'd probably have to undo most of it, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Emma Brown: um Regina Cotton: Although we don't wanna get rid of the whole environmental I mean obviously the solar cell is a big piece of the way we're marketing this as like a natural, new thing, but honestly if we cut that one piece out we're actually coming in under budget if I've done my math correctly. Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Candace Woodward: I mean you might Regina Cotton: I mean Candace Woodward: be able to sway Regina Cotton on the idea that we our main selling point could be already this voice recognition thing I mean that's Regina Cotton: Which, Candace Woodward: what sets Regina Cotton: it's Candace Woodward: us apart right? Regina Cotton: yeah that's what setting us into this young market, I mean that's where we started from, so I don't know, and I mean you know perhaps when the cell technology comes down in price we can bring that back into the game but it looks like at this point that may be out of our league. Candace Woodward: And the reality Geneva Bozarth: Right. Candace Woodward: is you know, for Regina Cotton from an ideological stand point, I'd like to stick with the uh the solar cell, but I h kind of have to throw myself Regina Cotton: Right. Candace Woodward: in the in the business structure model Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: here and Geneva Bozarth: Right. Candace Woodward: uh you know I think Emma Brown: It's either or. Candace Woodward: I think that Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: I think that we need to come to a compromise here and maybe move ahead with the project, without the solar cell. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: I think Geneva Bozarth: I guess Regina Cotton: unfortunately Geneva Bozarth: we might have to Regina Cotton: that's Geneva Bozarth: do Regina Cotton: our best Geneva Bozarth: that. Regina Cotton: option. Geneva Bozarth: It's the only way we're gonna get below our uh goal isn't it? Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: Of twelve fifty. Emma Brown: 'Cause we can't remove the push buttons 'cause they're Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Regina Cotton: It kind Emma Brown: um Regina Cotton: of yeah. Emma Brown: and we can't get rid of the uh I mean removing the changing the case wouldn't be so much of a Candace Woodward: Savings. Emma Brown: mm-mm, um, Regina Cotton: Mm-mm. Emma Brown: nor would changing the case materials. Um. So yeah that looks like to be the only thing. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: So that would be the it's a major change but Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: Gotta Emma Brown: Alright, Geneva Bozarth: do what you gotta do. Emma Brown: so we're in agreement on that. Regina Cotton: Unfortunately I think we are. Candace Woodward: No, I think that was a good compromise you brought forward Sarah. Emma Brown: Right. Moving along swiftly. Um, so I guess now we just go to the project evaluation which I will allow Sarah to take Regina Cotton: That Emma Brown: over. Regina Cotton: would be Regina Cotton. Um cord? Emma Brown: Ah of course, sorry. Regina Cotton: No problem. Emma Brown: Whoosh. Regina Cotton: Can you reach, that Candace Woodward: Yep. Regina Cotton: would be great, thank you. Emma Brown: That'd be great Regina Cotton: I didn't even do that one on purpose either, damn. Okay, um, basically I was just evaluating um from what we know of how our product's working right now with the criteria that we set at the beginning of these are the things we needed to do, these are the things that look like we feel they're important. Um so I was looking at basic design things, does it fulfil its functions as a remote? Is the design what we wanted it to do? I are technologies up to where we hoped they would be and does it fulfil the aesthetic qualities that our original market research was looking for? Um. Basic questions like, you know, does it turn on? Does it respond to voice recognition? And overall, in general, it looks like it's coming up to par. Geneva Bozarth: Mm. Regina Cotton: Um, the only thing is with with the pull-out panel, that is, can it take some adjusting because it's a new sort of interface, um that looked like it was coming up rough, but then, once you get used to it, it does make a lot of sense. So I think overall we're headed in the right direction. Geneva Bozarth: Really good. Regina Cotton: So. Candace Woodward: They like that spongy feel. Regina Cotton: Yeah. It looks like it's going over well, Candace Woodward: And Regina Cotton: so Candace Woodward: the paging Geneva Bozarth: Six? Candace Woodward: function works well, that's Regina Cotton: we're Candace Woodward: good to hear, Regina Cotton: we're good Candace Woodward: we Regina Cotton: yeah. Candace Woodward: worked hard on that one. Geneva Bozarth: We Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: did. Regina Cotton: It's I think eventually if we do um branch out with this product maybe we do have a higher budget options and if it goes over with this model we can look into um wider range voice recognition like from other rooms of the house and stuff, but for now, what we've got is working in the range we need it for, so it's all good. Emma Brown: Brilliant. Geneva Bozarth: I am bit Regina Cotton: That's Geneva Bozarth: disappointed Regina Cotton: everything from Geneva Bozarth: about Regina Cotton: Regina Cotton. Geneva Bozarth: losing the solar panel Emma Brown: Hmm. Geneva Bozarth: but Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: it's okay. Mm. Regina Cotton: Yeah, it is a set-back, but Okay, do you need the cord back? Candace Woodward: W we might Emma Brown: Um Candace Woodward: have Emma Brown: yeah, Candace Woodward: uh Emma Brown: I was just Candace Woodward: we Emma Brown: go on. Candace Woodward: might have lost that granola market again that Geneva Bozarth: I Candace Woodward: we're Geneva Bozarth: know. Emma Brown: Well they don't own tellys anyway do they? Candace Woodward: I guess Geneva Bozarth: True. Candace Woodward: that's true. Emma Brown: Right. So, um, this one's a bit unclear to Regina Cotton to be perfectly fair, um. I got this slide from the coach and I'm not sure what it's connected to. Um so I guess we are going to discuss um our project process um and that is gonna go into my report. So I guess this is the point where we go um uh out of role it looks like and talk about our satisfaction for room for creativity and so forth and Geneva Bozarth: Okay. Emma Brown: how that all worked, I guess, um. Regina Cotton: As in within the team Emma Brown: I think Regina Cotton: or? Emma Brown: so yeah. Geneva Bozarth: Right so it's Regina Cotton: Okay. Geneva Bozarth: just kind of a Emma Brown: I think Geneva Bozarth: open Emma Brown: it's Geneva Bozarth: mic kind of thing or Emma Brown: I mm-hmm, I think so. Geneva Bozarth: 'Kay. Emma Brown: I think Regina Cotton: It is now, you're in charge Emma Brown: hope Regina Cotton: so there you go. Emma Brown: I'm not screwing up an experiment. But I trust that she would jump in if I was so okay fair enough. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: Whatever. Emma Brown: Um right, um so any thoughts? Geneva Bozarth: Are we considering Regina Cotton: Um. Geneva Bozarth: these points here? Emma Brown: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: Okay. Regina Cotton: I think they're starting blocks yeah. Emma Brown: What do you guys feel about the process? Regina Cotton: Um, you know I think in general, for a day's worth of work we actually were relatively productive, considering the little amount of input we had going in. Emma Brown: Mm-hmm. Regina Cotton: Um, and the technology has definitely been a help, it's really been interesting to try out all this new stuff. Candace Woodward: We didn't use the whiteboard at all. Geneva Bozarth: No. Emma Brown: No, Regina Cotton: No, Emma Brown: no Regina Cotton: we Emma Brown: whiteboard. Regina Cotton: didn't. We could now if that'd make up for it but really Candace Woodward: And Regina Cotton: and I feel like if you guys had been designing in here perhaps that would have changed but because of room constraints, doesn't really matter. Candace Woodward: Um, also had I not been intrigued about the pen, I don't think I woulda used it at all, I didn't write barely anything. Regina Cotton: Yeah I think I was taking notes more often than usual just 'cause Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Regina Cotton: I liked the pen, Geneva Bozarth: it's true. Regina Cotton: yeah. Candace Woodward: Uh. Geneva Bozarth: Mm. Emma Brown: Was pretty cool tack though. Candace Woodward: Yeah. Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: Definitely. Regina Cotton: I am disappointed I didn't get a note back from my personal coach. Geneva Bozarth: As you write your personal coach. Regina Cotton: Yeah, but I didn't get a response so we'll see. Geneva Bozarth: What if you get a response two or three months from now? Regina Cotton: Okay Geneva Bozarth: That'd Regina Cotton: that Geneva Bozarth: be Regina Cotton: would Geneva Bozarth: weird. Regina Cotton: be kinda creepy. Emma Brown: Attempts to contact coach ineffective. Regina Cotton: Well what kind of coaching is that really? What if I really needed something. Candace Woodward: I so I don't n I think there was a lot of room for creativity, we could do whatever basically Regina Cotton: I think so. Candace Woodward: what we wanted until the budget came down on us, um. Regina Cotton: And even then we did get a decent product turned out although it's not everything we wanted it to be. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Candace Woodward: With the natural look. Geneva Bozarth: That's very natural. Emma Brown: Very natural look. Regina Cotton: Organic, really. Emma Brown: That's the brilliance of they had a p they had a peeler in here. Regina Cotton: And highly resourceful team mates might I add Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: which is always a plus. Emma Brown: Yeah, I think, yeah re I thought it was like really creative actually, I mean. Regina Cotton: Mm yeah, Candace Woodward: I Regina Cotton: I'm impressed. Candace Woodward: think the teamwork was good Geneva Bozarth: And to Candace Woodward: as Geneva Bozarth: prove Candace Woodward: well. Geneva Bozarth: that we weren't wasteful we didn't waste a single bit of Play-Doh, we used every bit. Regina Cotton: Nice. All four of those little containers. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Emma Brown: Including Geneva Bozarth: I guess Emma Brown: the s the multi-coloured wave pattern. Geneva Bozarth: My one my one criticism is that we didn't have enough colours to work with, we only had four, Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: wasn't enough. Regina Cotton: You could have developed multiple skins really had Geneva Bozarth: I know Regina Cotton: you had Geneva Bozarth: it Regina Cotton: more colours. Geneva Bozarth: could have been amazing. Regina Cotton: Oh well. Emma Brown: What did you guys think about the the the roles? Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Regina Cotton: They were good. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah it's f kind of fun, Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: it was I think it was pretty clever 'cause we were never able to get too far off track because the information came in at the right time and Regina Cotton: True. Geneva Bozarth: kind of filled in the gaps enough. At the same time you had enough room to kind of just make things up, Regina Cotton: Do your own. Geneva Bozarth: which was kind of fun. Regina Cotton: Though I did feel like th the level of information dropped off severely over the course of the day. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: I mean maybe it's just Regina Cotton but I didn't actually get any information for the last presentation at all. Emma Brown: That's true, Regina Cotton: Nothing, Emma Brown: I I got this spreadsheet. Regina Cotton: I didn't even get an email, like that was it. So, yeah, I feel like that was slightly lacking but then you know, fill in the blanks on your own, level of creativity upped. Candace Woodward: Well Regina Cotton: Whatever. Candace Woodward: I think that was I think that was an issue I kept finding with regard to Emma Brown: Of what to do. Candace Woodward: well no but also yeah when I was reporting about what each of us was doing I was often Geneva Bozarth: Mm. Regina Cotton: Mm-hmm. Candace Woodward: confused as to what you were doing Regina Cotton: Uh-huh, that wasn't very much. Geneva Bozarth: You know Candace Woodward: felt Regina Cotton: Mm. Candace Woodward: like you know a lot of our discussion would centre around n specifically what my task was because that was kind of the interface Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Candace Woodward: portion which was what Regina Cotton: Yes. Candace Woodward: the whole project was about Emma Brown: Mm, mm. Candace Woodward: uh Regina Cotton: Hmm, very much so. Candace Woodward: but and then in the end I think our jobs kind of melded together a Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Candace Woodward: little bit more, Geneva Bozarth: That was fun. Candace Woodward: which Geneva Bozarth: I think Candace Woodward: was fine. Geneva Bozarth: the most helpful thing out of everything was getting the the PowerPoint slides already put together Candace Woodward: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: for you Regina Cotton: Yeah, Geneva Bozarth: 'cause if Regina Cotton: already Geneva Bozarth: we didn't Regina Cotton: having Geneva Bozarth: have Regina Cotton: the Geneva Bozarth: that Regina Cotton: formatted stuff Geneva Bozarth: there's Regina Cotton: helped Geneva Bozarth: no way Regina Cotton: a Geneva Bozarth: we Regina Cotton: lot. Geneva Bozarth: could have got all that done in time. Regina Cotton: Very much so. Emma Brown: Cool. Candace Woodward: And I think your leadership was quite good. Geneva Bozarth: It was Regina Cotton: Hmm. Geneva Bozarth: really good yeah. Emma Brown: She said I I I she actually made a comment off boy you're getting into this and I really I think it's true I did get I I Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: felt like I got way too into it. Regina Cotton: That's kind of a good thing though, Emma Brown: I felt like I Geneva Bozarth: It's Emma Brown: slipped Geneva Bozarth: kinda fun. Regina Cotton: you Emma Brown: into Regina Cotton: know, Emma Brown: it a lot. Regina Cotton: give the rest of us some structure to work with so hey. Emma Brown: I dunno. Candace Woodward: An so is that the first time you've taken on that kind of role? Emma Brown: The first time I've ever done anything like yeah project project management. I usually Regina Cotton: Hmm. Emma Brown: organise crap, it's one thing to do, you know set up a party with your friends, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Emma Brown: you know? Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: Little different. Emma Brown: But you guys felt that you could keep the, yeah, suspension of disbelief kind of like like the role Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: and the okay? Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: I except for a couple moments where it just got out of hand and I knew we were Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: all lying through our teeth, other than that Candace Woodward: I had to admit, as soon as w we started I mean as soon as we got the Play-Doh, Regina Cotton: I could only imagine. Candace Woodward: th you know the whole concept of really trying to stick with reality went out the window. Emma Brown: Yeah, yeah. Maybe in in Legos you know? Candace Woodward: Possibly. Emma Brown: Be fun with Legos too, like make a remote control or spaceship, we used to have spaceship Legos did you guys ever used to build spaceships Candace Woodward: Oh yeah, Emma Brown: with Legos Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: still Emma Brown: everybody Candace Woodward: have 'em. Emma Brown: knows Regina Cotton: Totally. Emma Brown: best spaceships ever. Um you guys felt like there was enough teamwork in all? Geneva Bozarth: Yeah? Regina Cotton: I think so. Candace Woodward: Yep. Emma Brown: Hmm. Geneva Bozarth: You Emma Brown: No Geneva Bozarth: don't. Emma Brown: I, no I dunno, I d I I dunno, I don't I I was just Regina Cotton: Though Emma Brown: I Regina Cotton: we didn't actually I mean other than minor discussion at meetings there wasn't except for the actual building, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: but Emma Brown: It's true Regina Cotton: I feel Emma Brown: huh? Regina Cotton: like if this was a team project there actually would have been much more of the collaborative like brainstorming, use the board well and this would have been six months' worth of work, not like Emma Brown: Yeah. Regina Cotton: three hours' worth of meetings. Candace Woodward: I mean I think had the issue been more serious we probably woulda brainstormed more during our meetings as Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: That's Candace Woodward: a Regina Cotton: true. Candace Woodward: team. Emma Brown: Yeah. Course I'm I'm conscious of the idea of Emma Brown asking if you guys feel like there's a team you know it's like, kind of like, like hmm. It Regina Cotton: Yeah Emma Brown: d Regina Cotton: that is kind of Emma Brown: But yeah. Interesting. It's kind of fascinating wasn't it? I mean the whole process of Geneva Bozarth: Wonder why is there anything about the way that we got so much inform what was it that kept us from going to the the board? Emma Brown: I don't know. I I don't know if there was a ri I th Regina Cotton: Mine was the mics. I didn't feel like getting up and down and dealing with all these wires, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Regina Cotton: I was afraid Geneva Bozarth: that's Regina Cotton: I was gonna Geneva Bozarth: it Regina Cotton: break Geneva Bozarth: 'cause Regina Cotton: something Geneva Bozarth: the Regina Cotton: actually. Geneva Bozarth: mics are loose and each Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: time you get up it's s a possibility Emma Brown: Mm. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: of tripping over something or getting tangled or. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: Well I dunno what I woulda shown on that board. Regina Cotton: True, but it didn't even occur to Regina Cotton as an option, I mean I don't Emma Brown: Nor Regina Cotton: know that Emma Brown: I. Regina Cotton: I would have but I know that I consciously didn't. Candace Woodward: I mean it's just like the paper I don't know what I really needed the paper for. Regina Cotton: True. Candace Woodward: Um, because I've got this laptop. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: Standard, I just used it 'cause it's literally right in front of Regina Cotton. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: I wanna see the output files Regina Cotton: Well Emma Brown: from Regina Cotton: it looks Emma Brown: these Regina Cotton: really professional. Emma Brown: um, from the digital paper. I wanna see wh Regina Cotton: I know. Emma Brown: wh what my my handwriting looks like digitized because my handwriting is crap. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Emma Brown: I mean, Geneva Bozarth: that's Emma Brown: just Geneva Bozarth: it. Emma Brown: to see what it looks like in P_D_F_ format or something. Geneva Bozarth: Usually I would do a lot more doodling too but I didn't because Regina Cotton: I know, I felt like I needed to be professional so I didn't like draw all over my paper and stuff. Okay, well not entirely, but still, I doodled less than I usually do. Emma Brown: T I I'm curious about what the de-briefing is gonna be like. You know, like what is the uh what exactly we're looking for here. Candace Woodward: So is this all we need to get through? Emma Brown: I dunno, I'm not sure Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: what the Regina Cotton: guess. Emma Brown: new ideas found i is about. Regina Cotton: Um. Geneva Bozarth: New ideas. Regina Cotton: It Candace Woodward: Is it Regina Cotton: did it just say in an email that we need to discuss that? Emma Brown: Well, that's the thing I got i in the email I got this PowerPoint file but this slide was just Regina Cotton: That slide Emma Brown: there, Regina Cotton: was like that? Emma Brown: mm-hmm. I didn't change this one at all. Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Regina Cotton: Well. Emma Brown: Um Geneva Bozarth: I guess Emma Brown: ch Geneva Bozarth: we're on the right track. Emma Brown: Yeah well. Candace Woodward: Any new ideas with regard to Emma Brown: W Candace Woodward: remote control concepts? Geneva Bozarth: No, Emma Brown: I kinda Geneva Bozarth: none. Emma Brown: like Regina Cotton: Uh Emma Brown: th Regina Cotton: I think they still do their job. Geneva Bozarth: I Emma Brown: Yeah Geneva Bozarth: think Emma Brown: you Geneva Bozarth: they're Emma Brown: can't Geneva Bozarth: fine actually. Regina Cotton: I am thinking outside the little square box though, with literally Emma Brown: Yeah. Regina Cotton: in like form I don't Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, maybe a s a circle would be alright, Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: different. Emma Brown: Does kinda make you wonder, I mean, how much can you do with a remote control? It's like inventing a new car. Yeah Regina Cotton: It's still Emma Brown: yeah, you Regina Cotton: gotta Emma Brown: can Regina Cotton: be technically car shaped or it won't fit on the road, you know? Emma Brown: Yeah. Regina Cotton: Don't know. Emma Brown: Hmm. Um. Candace Woodward: What is Emma Brown: 'Kay. Candace Woodward: that? Our limited Regina Cotton: Kind Candace Woodward: ability Emma Brown: So Regina Cotton: of. Emma Brown: this Candace Woodward: to Emma Brown: was Candace Woodward: think outside Emma Brown: other Geneva Bozarth: Are we back Emma Brown: costs. Candace Woodward: the box? Geneva Bozarth: into Emma Brown: I dunno. Geneva Bozarth: project Emma Brown: I think this Geneva Bozarth: mood? Emma Brown: is Regina Cotton: Oh, how long was our meeting supposed to be? How much time Emma Brown: forty Regina Cotton: do we have left? Emma Brown: ish I I I mm we should go on a bit yeah about the project eval, um. I dunno about you guys but I felt like a bit under-stimulated on the whole thing. Like, Regina Cotton: Mm. Emma Brown: what like you know what am I really doing, you know what is Regina Cotton: Yeah, at the beginning it started out and I felt actually like under pressure like the first couple Emma Brown: Yep. Regina Cotton: were taking a lot of work and I was like had like all Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: this brainstorming I was doing and then suddenly I was like well it's just another two minute presentation that you guys don't really care about Candace Woodward: Why? Regina Cotton: anyway so Emma Brown: Hey. Regina Cotton: type away. Candace Woodward: Huh Regina Cotton: You Candace Woodward: I think it was the real. Regina Cotton: know, you know what I mean like we all sort Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Regina Cotton: of knew where we were headed with it so it didn't feel Candace Woodward: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: Definitely when Regina Cotton: like it mattered anymore. Geneva Bozarth: when I first filled out the questionnaire I was marking it probably higher in terms of how much I had to Regina Cotton: Mm-hmm. Geneva Bozarth: how much I stressed over it and then by the time I got to the last one I was like, you know, not Regina Cotton: Whatever. Geneva Bozarth: very much. Emma Brown: Mm. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Candace Woodward: Think it was also realisation of you basically just copy and paste what's given to Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Candace Woodward: you into Regina Cotton: Very Candace Woodward: your presentation Regina Cotton: much, yeah. Candace Woodward: which uh wasn't so clear to Regina Cotton at the beginning. Emma Brown: I actually Geneva Bozarth: Mm-hmm. Emma Brown: didn't do that at all though, every single one I a all the presentations I either added slides or edited 'em. I Candace Woodward: Oh Emma Brown: di Candace Woodward: I added like five slides Emma Brown: Oh. Candace Woodward: too, Regina Cotton: See I only got Geneva Bozarth: Did Candace Woodward: but Geneva Bozarth: you Regina Cotton: blank Candace Woodward: I Geneva Bozarth: really? Regina Cotton: ones. Geneva Bozarth: I just got blank ones and Emma Brown: What? Really? Regina Cotton: My slides were all blank, they'd have a title maybe Candace Woodward: Yeah, mine Regina Cotton: and Candace Woodward: too. Regina Cotton: they were just empty. Geneva Bozarth: Regina Cotton too. Emma Brown: Did they not have they didn't like uh mine yeah they didn't come like this? Like with this was what it looks like. Regina Cotton: Like Emma Brown: This is Regina Cotton: with Emma Brown: what Regina Cotton: those Emma Brown: that Regina Cotton: words Emma Brown: looked Regina Cotton: already Emma Brown: like, Regina Cotton: on it? Emma Brown: literally, just Regina Cotton: No. Emma Brown: like Candace Woodward: No. Emma Brown: that. Interesting. Regina Cotton: I wondered why yours always looked so more complicated. Emma Brown: Uh-huh huh huh. Geneva Bozarth: I deleted slides. Regina Cotton: I think I added a slide one time. Candace Woodward: I added many slides every time Regina Cotton: Hey with the whole new background Candace Woodward: Yeah. Regina Cotton: being innovative, Geneva Bozarth: That Regina Cotton: yeah Geneva Bozarth: was pretty cool, Regina Cotton: that was Geneva Bozarth: it Regina Cotton: class. Geneva Bozarth: was a high moment of Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: the whole experiment. Candace Woodward: Um. Emma Brown: Interesting. Any other thoughts come to mind? Regina Cotton: I wanna know how our product would fare. I Geneva Bozarth: I Regina Cotton: can't Geneva Bozarth: think Regina Cotton: just Geneva Bozarth: it Regina Cotton: leave Geneva Bozarth: would fail, Regina Cotton: it there. Geneva Bozarth: I think it'd be a Regina Cotton: I Geneva Bozarth: huge Regina Cotton: think Geneva Bozarth: disaster, Regina Cotton: it would take extensive Geneva Bozarth: especially Regina Cotton: marketing, Geneva Bozarth: if it looks like that. Regina Cotton: okay, an apple with a red button on top, even I am sceptical. But you know the whole Candace Woodward: Even you. Regina Cotton: Yeah. Geneva Bozarth: I don't we kind of designed it to look little bit like a face. Regina Cotton: I know it Emma Brown: Yeah but Regina Cotton: is. Geneva Bozarth: It's a happy face. Candace Woodward: Actually that looked a lot Regina Cotton: Mm. Candace Woodward: more like a tongue from previous to uh fr Emma Brown: Builds. Candace Woodward: some other design uh modifications. Emma Brown: Mm. Candace Woodward: I hope you appreciate the uh incorporation of some tin foil from a uh Regina Cotton: I Candace Woodward: random Kit-Kat Regina Cotton: I noticed Candace Woodward: bar that Regina Cotton: that. Candace Woodward: happened to be consumed. Regina Cotton: By accident. Emma Brown: Interesting. Regina Cotton: Well huh. An interesting day all in all Emma Brown: Uh, Geneva Bozarth: Yeah, Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: yeah, Regina Cotton: would Geneva Bozarth: it's Regina Cotton: say. Emma Brown: I'd Geneva Bozarth: uh Emma Brown: say so. Candace Woodward: So again I reiterate my question of how different we are comp compared to the other groups, especially between culture groups and Regina Cotton: I Candace Woodward: what not. Emma Brown: Mm, Regina Cotton: know. Emma Brown: I know. Candace Woodward: Mm. Emma Brown: It Geneva Bozarth: I Emma Brown: seemed Geneva Bozarth: wanna Emma Brown: like Geneva Bozarth: see Emma Brown: everything Geneva Bozarth: a Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: flowed pretty logically. You know from the the the basics Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: to the conce although the whole concepts thing, the whole concepts phase, I don't think I really understood like the concept. Well Geneva Bozarth okay Regina Cotton: 'Cause Emma Brown: the notion Regina Cotton: it's such a Emma Brown: of Regina Cotton: functional item. Emma Brown: yeah I mean i it's not like I have a concept of a mug's material, it's just it is what it is. Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Emma Brown: You know, maybe i rather than concepts i it should be th thought of we sh I I thought of I thought of rather than in terms of concepts I thought of it in terms of um like proposed idea. And Regina Cotton: Mm. Emma Brown: then the final would be like th the actual specified prototype or whatever, I dunno. But. Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Emma Brown: All in all it's kinda interesting. Regina Cotton: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: So we have more slides or? Emma Brown: No just this closing one. No we've established that the costs weren't really within budget, but we could s you know Regina Cotton: We Emma Brown: do Regina Cotton: got Emma Brown: it Regina Cotton: it to be. Emma Brown: We Regina Cotton: Like Emma Brown: did Regina Cotton: cutting corners. Emma Brown: the project evaluation based on um Sarah's evaluation of on Regina Cotton: Kind Emma Brown: off switches Regina Cotton: of, though it was Emma Brown: and Regina Cotton: really technically an evaluation of the product, not the project in general. Emma Brown: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: Mm. Regina Cotton: Which Emma Brown: True. Regina Cotton: I'm not sure is the same thing, at the time that just i made more sense, but I could see if they were really asking about us. Emma Brown: Yeah. 'Cause we di we had a thu think about it. Um. Yeah. And it's all recorded, woo-hoo. Yeah Regina Cotton: Yay. Emma Brown: what Geneva Bozarth: Hmm. Emma Brown: I'm gonna I'm gonna put um I'm supposed to do this final report thing at the end so I'll put all that into the final report as well, or as much as seems like maybe not like the articles and stuff, like Geneva Bozarth: I Emma Brown: because and if and so forth, but I'll put most of it in the reports. Geneva Bozarth: It'd be so cool Regina Cotton: Make Geneva Bozarth: if Regina Cotton: it Geneva Bozarth: we Regina Cotton: sound Geneva Bozarth: get Regina Cotton: eloquent. Geneva Bozarth: a copy of the recording. Regina Cotton: Oh, I have to done I've I've done Emma Brown: Nice. Regina Cotton: transcription before and it's really ridiculous how many words people say like Emma Brown: Oh Regina Cotton: just Emma Brown: yeah. Regina Cotton: in the middle of their sentences like that that mean nothing. Emma Brown: There's a whole branch of psychology that looks into that, psycholinguistics. Candace Woodward: What Geneva Bozarth: Really. Candace Woodward: the uhs Regina Cotton: There's a guy Candace Woodward: and Regina Cotton: studying Candace Woodward: the Regina Cotton: it here, yeah, he's studying ums Geneva Bozarth: Filler Regina Cotton: and Geneva Bozarth: words Regina Cotton: ahs Geneva Bozarth: or? Regina Cotton: or something. Emma Brown: Yep, they're called Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: um disfluencies. Geneva Bozarth: Disfluencies. Regina Cotton: That's a good word for it. Emma Brown: Yeah we like our fancy phrases and terminologies for things. Regina Cotton: Just add some prefixes, sounds classier. Emma Brown: Exactly uh I will save this into the project Geneva Bozarth: I find Emma Brown: documents. Geneva Bozarth: myself hitting the send and receive button on the email a lot, Regina Cotton: I, Candace Woodward: Mm. Geneva Bozarth: just Emma Brown: Yeah. Regina Cotton: yeah, Geneva Bozarth: out Emma Brown: Oh Geneva Bozarth: of boredom, Emma Brown: yeah. Regina Cotton: pretty compulsively Geneva Bozarth: like c come on Regina Cotton: during Emma Brown: Yeah Regina Cotton: meetings, Emma Brown: I know. Regina Cotton: like, Geneva Bozarth: gimme something. Regina Cotton: yeah. Emma Brown: Come on give Regina Cotton some information. Well to be fair we're we're hooked we're all hooked on the internet, Regina Cotton: Yeah, Emma Brown: so I mean I Regina Cotton: we Emma Brown: do the Regina Cotton: are addicts. Candace Woodward: That's scary yeah? Geneva Bozarth: It is scary. Regina Cotton: Mm. Candace Woodward: Well just around that eight or or Emma Brown: I Candace Woodward: nine Emma Brown: know, imagine Candace Woodward: people Emma Brown: we went Candace Woodward: that Emma Brown: the Candace Woodward: are Emma Brown: first ten y fifteen years of our lives without the internet. It's only in the last ten that we're like where's Regina Cotton: Yeah. Emma Brown: the internet? I mean, you know, it just in the past five we've gone Regina Cotton: I yeah. Emma Brown: from twenty eight eight modems to broadband all the time. Candace Woodward: Dude, Regina Cotton: True. Candace Woodward: I think we've had internet for like eighteen years. Emma Brown: No we have Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: but I not in the sense Regina Cotton: yeah. Emma Brown: that it's so un you know Geneva Bozarth: Yeah. Emma Brown: uh ubiquitous Regina Cotton: But it's not regular I mean my grandparents had it in the eighties and I got it in ninety four, but still. Geneva Bozarth: It's crazy. Regina Cotton: Uh-huh. Geneva Bozarth: So Candace Woodward: In the eighties? Regina Cotton: My um grammy does computer science back in the States and so they had um an E_D_U_ and gov network. Emma Brown: Mm. Regina Cotton: There's basically the fundamental structures, but it wasn't uh household to household yet Candace Woodward: Right. Regina Cotton: because it hadn't been Candace Woodward: Yeah, it was to the like seven Regina Cotton: partitioned Candace Woodward: universities Regina Cotton: off and stuff, Candace Woodward: or something. Regina Cotton: yeah that was him. Candace Woodward: You guys ready to celebrate? Emma Brown: Yeah that's Regina Cotton: Apparently, Emma Brown: our last step. Regina Cotton: does that include Emma Brown: Celebration. Regina Cotton: like champagne or something exciting? Geneva Bozarth: Should. Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: 'Kay Regina Cotton: think Emma Brown: I guess Regina Cotton: so. Emma Brown: we can probably call that meeting to an end Regina Cotton: I Emma Brown: for Regina Cotton: think Emma Brown: the most Regina Cotton: that's Emma Brown: part. Regina Cotton: a closer. Emma Brown: Cool. Geneva Bozarth: Has it been forty minutes or whatever? this has been long enough. Candace Woodward: Celebrate. Emma Brown: Where do you find that? Regina Cotton: I have no idea. Geneva Bozarth: Is that the only song you have? Candace Woodward: There is another one. Emma Brown: Is this one of those media player? Candace Woodward: Huh? Yep. Emma Brown: W oh. Geneva Bozarth: That's awesome. Emma Brown: The default track. Geneva Bozarth: Maybe I have Emma Brown: I Geneva Bozarth: a Emma Brown: thought Geneva Bozarth: different Emma Brown: it was Geneva Bozarth: one. Emma Brown: David Burns, look into the eyeball. That's one that seems to be shipping with it uh shipped with for a while, maybe this is the new version. Regina Cotton: So is that a close? Emma Brown: Yeah, I guess we'll call that Regina Cotton: Okay, Emma Brown: a a Regina Cotton: that's Emma Brown: doner. Regina Cotton: the end of the meeting. Emma Brown: Fab. Regina Cotton: Thank you gentlemen. I feel like I'm signing off.

Emma Brown opened the meeting by reviewing the decisions from the previous meeting (to use voice recognition instead of the touch screen, to hide the complicated features, and to start building the prototype). Candace Woodward and Geneva Bozarth then presented the prototype that featured voice recognition, interchangeable cases, visible light, and a soft casing material. Emma Brown presented what each component cost, which showed that the project was going over the alotted budget; the group decided to remove the solar panel. Regina Cotton presented an evaluation of the prototype and showed that the prototype had met many of the initial goals. The group then evaluated the project process and discussed their effectiveness as a group. Emma Brown summarized the proceedings of the meeting which will go into a final report, along with comments made during the project evaluation.

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Edwina Branson: Okay. Um welcome to our second meeting. This the functional design. And I hope you all had a good individual working time. Okay, let's get started. Okay, here's the agenda for the meeting. After the opening um I am going to fulfil the role of secretary, take the meeting minutes. And we're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you. Then we're gonna discuss some new project requirements. Um gonna come to a decision on the functions of the remote control. And then close up the meeting. And we're gonna do this all in about forty minutes. Okay. First I want to discuss the goals of this meeting. First we need to determine the user requirements and the question that we can ask ourselves is what needs and desires are to be fulfilled by this remote control. And then we're going to determine the technical functions, what is the effect of the apparatus, what actually is it supposed to do, what do people pick up the remote and use it for. And then lastly we're going to determine its working design, how exactly will it perform its functions, that's the whole technical side of 'Kay I'll just give you a minute, 'cause it looks like you're making some notes. 'Kay. Oh, well let's go ahead and, back, previous. So what I wanna do right now is hear from all three of you, on your research that you just did. Who would like to start us off? Joyce Mcdowell: I don't Edwina Branson: 'Kay. Joyce Mcdowell: mind going first. Edwina Branson: Okay. Um do you have a PowerPoint or no? Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah, it's in the should be in the m Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Project. Heather Carlton: Do you want us to do our PowerPoints now Joyce Mcdowell: You Heather Carlton: or Joyce Mcdowell: know you could you could do it yourself actually. Edwina Branson: Oh. Michelle Brown: Did you send it? Edwina Branson: Save Joyce Mcdowell: Put it Edwina Branson: it Joyce Mcdowell: in Edwina Branson: in the Joyce Mcdowell: Project Edwina Branson: project documents. Joyce Mcdowell: Documents, yeah. Edwina Branson: Okay. Edwina Branson: Mm-mm-mm. This one? Joyce Mcdowell: Sure. Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Michelle Brown: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Okay. Michelle Brown: Great. Joyce Mcdowell: Um well, the function of a remote control, as what uh we've been informed, is basically to send messages to the television set, for example, switch it on, switch it off, go to this channel, go to channel nine, turn volume up, etcetera. Um some of the considerations is just um for example the what it needs to include it's the numbers, you know, zero to nine, so you can move to a channel, the power button on slash off, the channel going up and down, volume going up and down, and then mute, a mute function. And then functions for V_H_S_, D_V_D_, for example, play, rewind, fast-forward, stop, pause, enter. And enter would be for like, you know, the menus. And then other menus for D_V_ as well as T_V_, whether that means like um we can go and decide the brightness of the screen, things like that, all the more complicated functions of menus. And we can decide if that's what we want, um if we Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: want to include that on the remote, if that's something that would stay on the T_V_ itself, for example. Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: These are two examples. Um and you can see on the left, it's got a lot more buttons, and I don't know if you can read it, but it says, step, go to, freeze, um slow, repeat, program, mute, and so those are some of the buttons and so it gives you an idea of s one example. And then on the right, it's a lot more simpler, it's got volume, it's got the play the like circle set, which is play, rewind, but it's also what is fast-forward is also like next on a menu. So you have functions that are d uh duplicating. Edwina Branson: Right. Joyce Mcdowell: And you have a mute button and then the numbers and the eject, and the power button. So that gives you two different kinds, a more complex and more simple version. Okay. Edwina Branson: Ready. Joyce Mcdowell: And then lastly, it's just the questions that we want to consider like what functions do we want it to include, and how simple, complex it should be? And what functions it needs to complete. Uh, what are needed to complete insulation process, 'cause, you know, that's something that also has to be considered and it's gonna be hopefully a one-time thing, when you set it up it should be set to go, but we have to include the functions that can allow it to set up i in the first place. So that's it. Edwina Branson: Alright. Very good presentation. Thank you. You speak with such authority on the matter. Joyce Mcdowell: Mm. Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Left. Edwina Branson: Who would like to um follow that one up? Now, that we've Heather Carlton: I Edwina Branson: discussed Heather Carlton: can go. Edwina Branson: Okay. Do you want Heather Carlton to run it or you Heather Carlton: Yeah, Edwina Branson: wanna Heather Carlton: you should run it. Edwina Branson: Okay. Functional requirements. Heather Carlton: Mm yes. Edwina Branson: 'Kay. Edwina Branson: Alright. Now we have Courtney with the functional requirements. Heather Carlton: Yes, okay so we tested a hundred subjects in our lab, and we just we watched them and we also made them fill out a questionnaire, and we found that the users are not typically happy with current remote controls. Seventy five percent think they're ugly. want are willing to more, which is good news for us um if we make look fancier, and basically w we just need something that really I mean there's some other points up there, but they it needs to be snazzy and it but yet simple. So that's really what we need to do. Joyce Mcdowell: Wait. Heather Carlton: And we need we need it to be simple, yet it needs to be high-tech looking. So Joyce Mcdowell: And that meaning what? Heather Carlton: Like They like I guess use the buttons a lot. Joyce Mcdowell: Okay. Heather Carlton: Yeah. I don't know. It's from my uh research. Joyce Mcdowell: Right. Edwina Branson: Okay, what Heather Carlton: My Edwina Branson: do you Heather Carlton: team Edwina Branson: m Heather Carlton: wasn't very Joyce Mcdowell: Only Heather Carlton: clear. Joyce Mcdowell: use Edwina Branson: Oh, Joyce Mcdowell: ten Edwina Branson: I'm Joyce Mcdowell: percent Edwina Branson: sorry. Joyce Mcdowell: of the Heather Carlton: That's Joyce Mcdowell: buttons. Heather Carlton: okay. Edwina Branson: What do you mean by um the current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user, like they Heather Carlton: I Edwina Branson: have to press Heather Carlton: I Edwina Branson: the buttons. Heather Carlton: think it's like the engineering versus user, Edwina Branson: Okay. Heather Carlton: whereas like the engineering she showed that the engineering ones are more complex Edwina Branson: Oh, right. Heather Carlton: and users don't really need all of the Edwina Branson: The Heather Carlton: buttons Edwina Branson: buttons. Heather Carlton: that are contained on there, Edwina Branson: Okay. Heather Carlton: because they only use ten percent of the buttons really. Edwina Branson: Yeah. Okay. Michelle Brown: We only use ten per cent of our brains. Heather Carlton: Good point. Edwina Branson: It works. Heather Carlton: It's a necessary evil. Michelle Brown: yeah. Edwina Branson: Ready for the next slide? Heather Carlton: Mm-hmm. And so people say that they typically lose it, as you yourself know, because you probably lose your remote control all the time, Edwina Branson: Hmm. Heather Carlton: much like any small appliance Joyce Mcdowell: Lost. Heather Carlton: like a cellphone, and they we need something simple, because most people, well thirty four percent say that it's just too much time to learn how to use a new one, and we don't want to go we don't want to vary too far from the normal standard Joyce Mcdowell: S Heather Carlton: remote, but I mean they do need to be able to identify it, and R_S_I_, I'm not very sure what that is. Edwina Branson: It's okay. It's Heather Carlton: Yes, Edwina Branson: very important. Heather Carlton: it is important for the remote control world. Joyce Mcdowell: Wait, is that like your ergonomics Heather Carlton: Sh Joyce Mcdowell: like your hand movements or something? Edwina Branson: Could be, Heather Carlton: Uh Edwina Branson: yeah. Heather Carlton: possibly. Michelle Brown: Do we really need t to provide more information on Joyce Mcdowell: Like Michelle Brown: what R_S_I_ is? Edwina Branson: Oh. Heather Carlton: Uh yeah, that's what my web site said, I Joyce Mcdowell: Channel, volume, power. Heather Carlton: don't Edwina Branson: I think that's Heather Carlton: know. Edwina Branson: a pretty good guess though. Heather Carlton: Yeah, I would assume so. I Joyce Mcdowell: It's Heather Carlton: think Joyce Mcdowell: like Heather Carlton: we're Joyce Mcdowell: if you're Heather Carlton: supposed Joyce Mcdowell: holding Heather Carlton: to know it Joyce Mcdowell: it Heather Carlton: as remote control experts. Edwina Branson: Yeah. Heather Carlton: But Edwina Branson: It's Heather Carlton: also Edwina Branson: okay. Heather Carlton: s so the channel, the volume and the power buttons are the most important on our company website you can find like the specific statistics concerning to how much each button is used, but those are the definitely the top ones. Edwina Branson: Okay. Next slide? Heather Carlton: Yes. And so personally I think that we need a modern eye-catching design, but it it really needs to be simple. So saying from y your slide, your presentation, the engineering versus the user-specified remotes, I think that we should go with something that's more user-friendly. Edwina Branson: User-friendly. Heather Carlton: Where the engineering ones, the boxes, tend to make it look more complicated than it really is. Um the functionality of the product really needs to be considered as to like what type of buttons do we really need on it. And it needs to be open to a wide range of consumers, so even though we need a small number of buttons, we also need to take in like are most people going to be using it for a D_V_D_ player, a TiVo, what what exactly are we using it for, as well as the age range. So we need a hip, but not a corny marketing scheme for promoting our product. And also we found our team found that speech recognition is it's like an up-and-coming thing they really consumers are really interested in it, and since our findings found that people are willing to pay more money for a remote for it to be more high-class Edwina Branson: And so just Heather Carlton: we could Edwina Branson: to Heather Carlton: consider it. Edwina Branson: just to clarify by speech recognition you mean they would say, channel five, and the thing would Heather Carlton: I Edwina Branson: go Heather Carlton: guess Edwina Branson: to channel Heather Carlton: so, Edwina Branson: five? Heather Carlton: yeah. Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: to just say, where are you, and thing beeps, you know. Heather Carlton: Yeah, I guess Edwina Branson: Oh, Heather Carlton: we can interpret Edwina Branson: that'd Heather Carlton: it Edwina Branson: be Heather Carlton: like, Edwina Branson: lovely. Heather Carlton: we can just try out different types of speech Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Heather Carlton: recognition within our Edwina Branson: Didn't Heather Carlton: remote Edwina Branson: they Heather Carlton: programme. Edwina Branson: um didn't our rival companies manufacture a remote that you would press the button on the T_V_ and it would the remote would beep so if you Joyce Mcdowell: It's Edwina Branson: have Joyce Mcdowell: kinda Edwina Branson: lost Joyce Mcdowell: like what Edwina Branson: it Joyce Mcdowell: the remote phone used to do. Edwina Branson: Mm. Oh, yeah, that's Joyce Mcdowell: You Edwina Branson: true. Joyce Mcdowell: know like Edwina Branson: We could Joyce Mcdowell: go Edwina Branson: definitely Joyce Mcdowell: to the Edwina Branson: include Joyce Mcdowell: base. Edwina Branson: that if we wanted to. Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: If it's within our price. Okay. Are we ready for our last presentation, Amber? Michelle Brown: Yeah, I'm just trying to move it. Edwina Branson: Okay. Michelle Brown: 'Kay. I think it should be there, Joyce Mcdowell: Working Michelle Brown: working Joyce Mcdowell: design. Michelle Brown: design. Edwina Branson: There we go. 'Kay. Michelle Brown: 'Kay. Uh I didn't get a chance Edwina Branson: Oh Michelle Brown: to complete Edwina Branson: my Michelle Brown: this Edwina Branson: bad. Michelle Brown: one, 'cause some of the tools that I was given were frustrating. Heather Carlton: Oh that's fine. Joyce Mcdowell: Help Michelle Brown: okay Joyce Mcdowell: Heather Carlton. Michelle Brown: th some of the things that we actually need to put into this. We need a power source, we're gonna need a smart chip if we're gonna make it multi-functional. Um extra functions will probably need an additional chip. Either that or the smart chip will have to be extremely smart. Heather Carlton: What exactly is a smart chip? Michelle Brown: Usually a smart chip is just a chip that's been programmed and designed so that it can complete a fair range of functions. Joyce Mcdowell: Well, how much extra would the additional chip be? Is that gonna push us over our production costs? Michelle Brown: I wouldn't think so, 'cause we could probably get it from like, in bulk, from a a newer company. Joyce Mcdowell: Mm-hmm. Michelle Brown: And they tend to sell their chips pretty cheap. Edwina Branson: Okay. Ready? Michelle Brown: Um yep, nothing here. Edwina Branson: That's okay. Michelle Brown: Um power source, I figured, batteries, 'cause they're easily available. Typically a remote has either two double A_s or four triple A_s, sometimes three. Uh it really kinda depends on the size of the actual remote itself. Um a large on-off button, demographically we're moving towards an older generation of people, so a large on-off button would probably be good. Edwina Branson: Hmm. Michelle Brown: Selection button for various entertainment devices, so you want something that will permit you to select the D_V_D_ player or the T_V_ or the stereo system. Um smart chip that perverts uh that permits, sorry, universal application again, something that'll allow us to skip over between devices, and that's kinda it. Uh this is my fifty second design. Power source over here. We're gonna have a switch obviously between the power source and the rest of it, and you're gonna need the switch. Um extra bulb could just be for flashiness, um subcomponent which would be like a way of diverting the power to different parts of the the device. Um the chip and of course the infra-red bulb, so it can communicate with the various devices that it needs to talk to. Heather Carlton: So what exactly we are looking at, is this like the front of the Michelle Brown: This is just like Heather Carlton: remote? Michelle Brown: a rough schematic. Edwina Branson: So Michelle Brown: So this Edwina Branson: this Michelle Brown: is Edwina Branson: would Michelle Brown: the Edwina Branson: be Michelle Brown: internal Edwina Branson: the front? Michelle Brown: workings. Edwina Branson: So Heather Carlton: Oh Edwina Branson: the Heather Carlton: okay. Edwina Branson: red would be the front of the remote though, Michelle Brown: Yeah. Edwina Branson: right? Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah, Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: that's gonna be what's communicating with the T_V_, but the other bulb, I think, is good to just to indicate, I'm doing something, it's sort of like a Edwina Branson: The l Heather Carlton: Like Joyce Mcdowell: reassurance. Heather Carlton: that we Edwina Branson: the Heather Carlton: know Michelle Brown: Yeah, Heather Carlton: the battery's Michelle Brown: so Edwina Branson: light Michelle Brown: you don't Edwina Branson: up Heather Carlton: working. Michelle Brown: have to stare Edwina Branson: kind of Michelle Brown: at that infra-red, 'cause Edwina Branson: Yeah. Michelle Brown: you know when the battery starts dying in your remote currently, you have to actually stare at that bulb and go, okay, Edwina Branson: Hmm. Michelle Brown: when I push this button, is it working? Heather Carlton: Okay. Edwina Branson: It'd probably be Michelle Brown: We Edwina Branson: lighting Michelle Brown: can skip Edwina Branson: up the key Michelle Brown: that whole thing. Edwina Branson: too, right? Michelle Brown: Yep. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: 'Kay. Michelle Brown: So you can Edwina Branson: The buttons. Michelle Brown: put it in the dark. Heather Carlton: Yeah, and that's good. We Edwina Branson: Okay. Heather Carlton: should make it glow in the dark. Edwina Branson: Yeah, definitely. 'Kay nex R Ready? Michelle Brown: Yeah, that's it. Edwina Branson: 'Kay, any p Heather Carlton: Mm 'kay. Edwina Branson: 'Kay? Anything you wanna add for personal preferences though, you f you said already that we needed a large on-off button, you think. Michelle Brown: I Edwina Branson: Anything Michelle Brown: think Edwina Branson: else? Michelle Brown: that that's a good idea, because you know that's one of the most Joyce Mcdowell: Just Michelle Brown: important buttons. Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Well, should it be larger buttons in general, you know like uh the examples that I had, they were swi quite small. So should we try and go for something that has l larger buttons? Heather Carlton: I think we should. Like I think that would be in a as in like in for the design, sorry, um. I think we should definitely go with buttons that don't look like a normal remote, 'cause most remotes have small square buttons, Edwina Branson: Mm. Heather Carlton: I think we should do something like Joyce Mcdowell: Ovals. Heather Carlton: maybe bigger and round like Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah, Heather Carlton: bubbles. Joyce Mcdowell: yeah. Edwina Branson: Okay. Okay, let's talk about all of our We'll come to decision later about all the components that we need to include, let's um wrap up this one, and I'm gonna go back to my PowerPoint, 'cause we need to discuss the new project requirements which you might've already seen flashed up on the screen a bit earlier. Wait, come back. Alright. Sorry, let's go through this. Alright. Here we go. New product requirements. First it's only going to be a T_V_ remote. We're trying not to over-complicate things. So no D_V_D_, no TiVo, no stereo. Michelle Brown: Okay. Edwina Branson: It's not gonna be multi-functional. Hey. And we th need to promote our company more, so we need to somehow include our colour and our company slogan on the remote. We're trying to get our name out there in the world. Okay. And you know what teletext is? Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: in States we don't have it, but Joyce Mcdowell: I Heather Carlton: What Edwina Branson: um Joyce Mcdowell: know. Heather Carlton: is it? Edwina Branson: it's like they just have this channel where just has news and weather, kind of sports, it's very um bland looking, it's just text on the screen, Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah, it's like Edwina Branson: not Joyce Mcdowell: black, Edwina Branson: even Yeah, Joyce Mcdowell: black and Edwina Branson: just Joyce Mcdowell: white kind Edwina Branson: black Joyce Mcdowell: of Edwina Branson: with just Heather Carlton: Like running Edwina Branson: text. Heather Carlton: along the bottom? Edwina Branson: Yeah. Michelle Brown: You can Joyce Mcdowell: It'll Michelle Brown: also Joyce Mcdowell: give Michelle Brown: get Joyce Mcdowell: you Michelle Brown: the kind of the Joyce Mcdowell: the Michelle Brown: T_V_ guide Joyce Mcdowell: sports. Michelle Brown: so Heather Carlton: Wait, is it like the Weather Channel where it's got like the ticker running on the bottom Edwina Branson: Kind Joyce Mcdowell: Except Heather Carlton: or Edwina Branson: of. Heather Carlton: something? Joyce Mcdowell: the entire screen. Michelle Brown: It's the entire Edwina Branson: Yeah it's Michelle Brown: screen Edwina Branson: the whole screen. Michelle Brown: is just running information at random. Joyce Mcdowell: You can Edwina Branson: So Joyce Mcdowell: pick Edwina Branson: anyway Joyce Mcdowell: sports, Michelle Brown: Seemingly. Joyce Mcdowell: you can pick the news, you entertainment, you know it's like Heather Carlton: So it's like Edwina Branson: Right. Heather Carlton: a separate channel from like what Edwina Branson: Right. Heather Carlton: you're watching? Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: But it's becoming out-dated now, because of the Internet. and we have twenty four hour news channels now too, so Those are our new product requirements. Heather Carlton: Okay. Michelle Brown: Okay. So, Edwina Branson: Alright. Michelle Brown: do we have to Edwina Branson: Mm-hmm. Michelle Brown: include the company colour within that? Edwina Branson: Yes. It's part of the logo. Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: Company colour being yellow. Edwina Branson: What we're going to do right now is come to some decisions, definitive that we can all agree on, about um the target group and the functions and just definite things that we need to do and then we'll close up the meeting. So. Alright. Whatever. Okay. Edwina Branson: So our target group is You mentioned um older people? Joyce Mcdowell: Mm-hmm. Edwina Branson: Would it just be universal for everyone, you think? Because I think even if something has large buttons, Joyce Mcdowell: It's gonna Edwina Branson: as Joyce Mcdowell: make Edwina Branson: long Joyce Mcdowell: it Edwina Branson: as they are not Joyce Mcdowell: nicer. Edwina Branson: childishly large, like even Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: technically non-technically challenged people are gonna use it. I mean they want something user-friendly, so Michelle Brown: Mm well, even if we kept the regular standard size of remote, if we reduced the buttons down to the ones that people are saying that they use the most often and a couple extra, 'cause Edwina Branson: Yeah. Michelle Brown: they're saying they only use ten per cent of them, Edwina Branson: Yeah. Michelle Brown: then we should be able to accommodate fairly decent sized buttons. Edwina Branson: Okay, so we want um for our target group would we say, I mean, young and old, all age ranges, all um, not kids obviously, right? Or kids? Heather Carlton: No, kids need to know how to use a remote, Michelle Brown: Most Heather Carlton: I would Michelle Brown: of them Heather Carlton: think. Michelle Brown: will intuitively Heather Carlton: They gotta Michelle Brown: pick Heather Carlton: change Michelle Brown: it up Heather Carlton: between Michelle Brown: though. Heather Carlton: Disney Channel, Cartoon Network. Edwina Branson: Okay, so we're going to go anywhere from Heather Carlton: Yeah, Edwina Branson: kids Heather Carlton: I think we need it Edwina Branson: to Heather Carlton: all. Edwina Branson: adult in the age range Um what about technic technical um specifications, like how how technically literate are these people who are going to be using our remote? Heather Carlton: Um I would say we should say dumber than the average person. Joyce Mcdowell: We Edwina Branson: Okay. Joyce Mcdowell: should go for the lowest denominator. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Right, okay. Joyce Mcdowell: High Edwina Branson: So Joyce Mcdowell: school educated. Edwina Branson: so they need no technical experience to operate Michelle Brown: how 'bout little to no, because there is no way that you are gonna be able to make it no. Edwina Branson: Okay. And we also need to determine the specific functions of this, just to get it all out on paper. So we said it needs to send messages to the T_V_, needs to change the channel, turn on and off, just basic simple stuff like this. So if you have something just say it and we'll add it to my meeting minutes. Joyce Mcdowell: Well it's channel, on-off button, Edwina Branson: Mm-hmm, Joyce Mcdowell: volume, Edwina Branson: volume. Joyce Mcdowell: mute. Heather Carlton: And channel. Yeah. Those are the most important ones. Edwina Branson: Right. And we wanna keep um I'll make a note here that we wanna keep the number of buttons down. Correct, because people only use ten percent. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: 'Kay. Hey, what Joyce Mcdowell: Um. Edwina Branson: else? Edwina Branson: Um. Michelle Brown: Do we want this thing to be able to be found easily? Edwina Branson: I think so. What do you Heather Carlton: Sure, yeah. Edwina Branson: A finding Michelle Brown: And Heather Carlton: I need Edwina Branson: kind Heather Carlton: we Edwina Branson: of Heather Carlton: we need a Edwina Branson: device Michelle Brown: like Heather Carlton: like Edwina Branson: or Michelle Brown: if Heather Carlton: homing Edwina Branson: Yeah, Michelle Brown: this is Joyce Mcdowell: Oh Heather Carlton: device. Michelle Brown: gonna Edwina Branson: ho Joyce Mcdowell: right Michelle Brown: get Joyce Mcdowell: yeah Michelle Brown: lost Edwina Branson: homing Joyce Mcdowell: okay. Michelle Brown: underneath Edwina Branson: device. Michelle Brown: the coach, how are we going to accommodate the quick Edwina Branson: Mm Michelle Brown: ability Edwina Branson: 'kay. Michelle Brown: to find Joyce Mcdowell: Tracking. Michelle Brown: it? Heather Carlton: Because Edwina Branson: Okay. Heather Carlton: people really are looking for a remote that's more high-tech. Edwina Branson: Right. Michelle Brown: What if we gave it a charger? And on the charger, just like a phone, like you get a portable phone and it's got a charger, Joyce Mcdowell: But Michelle Brown: and Joyce Mcdowell: you Michelle Brown: if Joyce Mcdowell: got Michelle Brown: you d Joyce Mcdowell: a base. Michelle Brown: leave your phone somewhere, you push the button to find it, and it finds th the phone beeps for you. Heather Carlton: Because Michelle Brown: It's useful for the remote phone. Edwina Branson: Hmm. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Would that add to our costs at all, I wonder? Heather Carlton: I would think so, because you'd have to develop a base. Edwina Branson: Right. Joyce Mcdowell: Well, if you have the base, you could start putting in a charger and then you have a different kind of battery. Michelle Brown: Yeah. Heather Carlton: Hmm. Michelle Brown: Rechargeable batteries are cheaper usually. Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Okay. I I think we can make a decision about that later. Uh we'll still put that as a point that we need to discuss. So that would include battery source Power source rather. Is it going to have a charger, or is it going to be run strictly off batteries? And we also need to deal with the issue you mentioned of speech recognition, if we want Heather Carlton: Right. Edwina Branson: that. Heather Carlton: Do w Joyce Mcdowell: Well, then we could If we have the speech recognition then we can start aiming at a like another kind of more handicapped disabled uh Edwina Branson: Mm. Joyce Mcdowell: demo demographic. Heather Carlton: Well, th there's the people who desire speech recognition, there's the different demog demographics have different desires, I don't know if you guys ge Edwina Branson: You could um Heather Carlton: It Edwina Branson: we Heather Carlton: wouldn't Edwina Branson: could Heather Carlton: copy Edwina Branson: hook it up. Heather Carlton: onto the Edwina Branson: Oh. Heather Carlton: the thing 'cause it's black, but all the different age groups have different desires for speech recognition. So basically older people don't really care. It's really the people twenty five to thirty five. I feel those are the people that really watch a lot of T_V_ though. Edwina Branson: Mm-hmm. Heather Carlton: They're the ones that get addicted to soap operas and Joyce Mcdowell: Well Edwina Branson: And Heather Carlton: just Edwina Branson: if Heather Carlton: sitcoms and stuff. Edwina Branson: and if we introduced it when they're this age, they're going to probably always buy a remote Heather Carlton: Right. Edwina Branson: that has Heather Carlton: So Joyce Mcdowell: Well, then then do you put the voice recognition do you put the r like receiver on the actual television, in the base, or in the actual remote, Edwina Branson: Right. Joyce Mcdowell: whereas if you just speak in general and you don't have to have the remote in your hand and like talk at it. Edwina Branson: Yeah. and the speech recognition could be part of the lost and found device, too. If we said, Heather Carlton: Right. Edwina Branson: find remote, locate remote, or something. A certain phrase then it could beep. I dunno. Just throwing it out there. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Well Joyce Mcdowell: Still fifteen minutes. Um. Edwina Branson: Okay, anything else we wanna discuss? Joyce Mcdowell: Well, do we wanna include the numbers like zero through nine? Can we conceive of leaving them out? Edwina Branson: Um. Heather Carlton: Wait, on the remote itself? Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah, like you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, zero. Heather Carlton: Well, Edwina Branson: How Heather Carlton: we definitely need those. Edwina Branson: how, yeah, how Michelle Brown: Yeah. Edwina Branson: would you leave those out? Joyce Mcdowell: Well, I don't know, I mean, if you can like well I don't Edwina Branson: Unless Joyce Mcdowell: know, Edwina Branson: you Joyce Mcdowell: if Edwina Branson: could Joyce Mcdowell: there's Edwina Branson: say Joyce Mcdowell: just a Edwina Branson: the Joyce Mcdowell: way Edwina Branson: channel. Joyce Mcdowell: of leaving them out? Michelle Brown: I think people would find that too foreign. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Yeah, that's true. Heather Carlton: You Edwina Branson: And Heather Carlton: definitely need Edwina Branson: also remember that in this day in age we need, you know, like a hundred button, too. I used to have a remote that did not even go up past like fifty. So I couldn't whenever I got cable, I had to get a new T_V_. Michelle Brown: It's when we get satellite. Edwina Branson: Mm. get your own remote, or digital cable. Michelle Brown: Yeah. Edwina Branson: 'Kay. Um. I guess, we're gonna discuss the project financing later, making sure that we can fit all of the stuff that we want to on our budget. Um. Michelle Brown: Yeah, 'cause I don't have any material pricing information available to Heather Carlton at the moment, so Edwina Branson: 'Kay. And don't forget we need to include the colour of our company and the logo. Joyce Mcdowell: The colour Heather Carlton: Wait. Joyce Mcdowell: being yellow? Edwina Branson: I'm guessing. Joyce Mcdowell: And how Heather Carlton: I feel Joyce Mcdowell: do Edwina Branson: And Joyce Mcdowell: we Heather Carlton: like Edwina Branson: the R_R_. Heather Carlton: a ye I feel Michelle Brown: R_ Heather Carlton: like a Michelle Brown: the Heather Carlton: yellow Michelle Brown: double Heather Carlton: one Michelle Brown: R_. Heather Carlton: would be too garish. Edwina Branson: We could just Joyce Mcdowell: Can't Edwina Branson: have the Joyce Mcdowell: make Edwina Branson: logo Joyce Mcdowell: it entirely Edwina Branson: in yellow, or maybe a Michelle Brown: Or Edwina Branson: yellow Michelle Brown: is the Edwina Branson: light Michelle Brown: l Edwina Branson: for the keys. Heather Carlton: Or put like stripes, oh yeah, yellow Michelle Brown: Yeah, Heather Carlton: lights. Michelle Brown: yellow could be and it could doesn't have to be huge. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Joyce Mcdowell: Well if you have like a Hang on. If you have this sort of strip kind of down at the bottom the base of it, just like yellow with the R_R_. Edwina Branson: Right. So we've simplified, we don't need all those um play, fast-forward, rewind, Joyce Mcdowell: Right, yeah. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: or no menu buttons. So we've pretty much pared it down to on-off, volume, mute, channel up and down, um the numbers Yeah. Heather Carlton: Yeah. Edwina Branson: Um can we go back to I'm gonna look really quickly back at those Joyce Mcdowell: Two examples. Edwina Branson: examples Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: and see if there is anything. Which one is yours, technical functions Joyce Mcdowell: Oh, it's Edwina Branson: or Joyce Mcdowell: a Edwina Branson: functional Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: requirement? Okay. Heather Carlton: Yeah, audi audio settings and screen settings, we need those like audio settings mono, stereo, pitch, screen settings like brightness, colour, or do we just want that accessed accessed from the television Edwina Branson: The T_V_. Heather Carlton: itself? Edwina Branson: I think that that's fine just for the T_V_. I mean how often does the average user need to do that kind of stuff? Joyce Mcdowell: Well, the other option is sort of like down at the bottom, like farther away, you just have this sort of box inset where it's like the buttons that you don't use as much, but Edwina Branson: Hmm. Joyce Mcdowell: occasionally you will use. Heather Carlton: Yeah, 'cause Joyce Mcdowell: and Heather Carlton: we need Joyce Mcdowell: so Heather Carlton: to Joyce Mcdowell: it's like Heather Carlton: we definitely need to have buttons for like sub-titles and things like that. It's 'cause the foreign film market is expanding and stuff, and like on television like I know f k living in Los Angeles it's tons of Spanish network television if it has English sub-titles it's definitely helpful. Edwina Branson: Couldn't we do that all through one button, something, Joyce Mcdowell: I don't well, Edwina Branson: a menu Joyce Mcdowell: I don't know. Edwina Branson: button, that pops up with a menu on the T_V_ that says, you know, audio, video, whatever, language, you know? Joyce Mcdowell: Right. Heather Carlton: So we need up, down, and side-to-side buttons. Joyce Mcdowell: Well, that Edwina Branson: For Joyce Mcdowell: could be Edwina Branson: the menus. Joyce Mcdowell: No you could just double up with like the channel or the volume buttons. Michelle Brown: Mm-hmm. Edwina Branson: That's true. Heather Carlton: Yeah, Joyce Mcdowell: Channel Heather Carlton: okay. Joyce Mcdowell: is just up and down. Heather Carlton: Okay, yeah. Joyce Mcdowell: And then add a Edwina Branson: Something that Heather Carlton: Such as, yeah, the Edwina Branson: looks Heather Carlton: one Edwina Branson: mayb you know. Heather Carlton: the one over there on the left the engineering Edwina Branson: Y Heather Carlton: centred Edwina Branson: right, Heather Carlton: one. Edwina Branson: right Joyce Mcdowell: Yeah. Edwina Branson: right right. That one? Joyce Mcdowell: So we just have it like add a menu button then for the various things needed, Edwina Branson: Right. Joyce Mcdowell: including v Edwina Branson: In Joyce Mcdowell: voice Edwina Branson: the middle Joyce Mcdowell: recognition if we have Edwina Branson: perhaps. Joyce Mcdowell: any like settings for voice recognition now included in the menu. Edwina Branson: Yep. Heather Carlton: Ooh, I just got an idea for a design. Edwina Branson: good. Edwina Branson: Anybody have anything else they'd like to bring up in this meeting? Michelle Brown: I had something, but I forgot. Edwina Branson: Okay. get out of here. Let's go back to the meeting closure then and see what we need to do next. Mm. Alright. After this meeting we're gonna be sent a questionnaire and summary again which we need to reply to that e-mail. And then we're gonna have lunch break. And after lunch thirty minutes of individual work time. Um I'm gonna put the minutes I put the minutes for the first meeting already in the project documents folder, if you'd like to review them. And I'm gonna type up the minutes for this one as well. Um here's what we're each going to do. The I_D_ is going to work on the components concept, um U_I_D_ the user interface concept, and you're going to do some trend watching. 'Kay. Specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach. And if anybody has anything they would like to add? No? Okay, well, this meeting is officially over. Thank you all.

Joyce Mcdowell presented the basic functions of the device and discussed the designs of two existing products, showing an example of the simple design that the group wants to implement. Heather Carlton presented feedback from users, showing that users want a simple but fancy-looking remote control and that young users want speech recognition. She discussed including only the most basic functions in the interface. Michelle Brown presented her internal design of the device and discussed the processor chip and the energy sources that will be integrated. She suggested integrating an extra lightbulb that lit up when the remote was communicating with the television. Edwina Branson gave the group new requirements for the product design. The group discussed marketing the product to a wide range of customers. They had a discussion about possibly including a locator function and speech recognition. They discussed integrating the company's yellow color and logo into the design, and decreasing the number of buttons in the main interface. Edwina Branson instructed Michelle Brown to prepare the components concept, Joyce Mcdowell to prepare the interface concept, and Heather Carlton to prepare a trendwatching report.

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Deborah Wilson: Okay. Hi Team. Hope you had a good. Okay we're back for the conceptual design meeting. Um let's get started. 'Kay, here is the agenda for today's meeting. Um we're gonna open it and I'm gonna keep the minutes as Project Manager. We're gonna have three presentations, one from each of you again. And then we are going to come to decision on the remote control concepts and then we're gonna close it up. And we have forty minutes again. 'Kay, just to reiterate after meeting team will reach a decision on the concepts of the remote control. Okay. Let's go ahead and start off with your presentations. Who would like to go first? Elaine Hyatt: Just trying to move mine right now. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Um Courtney would you mind starting us Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: off? Okay. Trend watching? Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Lela Williams: Okay, so trend watching. Uh since we do put the fashion in electronics, it is kind of important how our product looks. So I guess we can go ahead and go to the next. So what they want. Right now customers want fancy versus functional. Um basically about fifty eight percent of what they like of the product that they want, describing like the in order of how much they want, fifty per of the decision of what it should look like, fancy versus functional, and then it has to also be technologically innovative, and yet easy to use. So the customer basically is confused. They don't know exactly what they want. They want us to tell them. Elaine Hyatt: They want everything, but Lela Williams: Yes. Elaine Hyatt: simply. Lela Williams: Exactly. Elaine Hyatt: Okay. Lela Williams: So we can go to next. Deborah Wilson: Mm 'kay. Lela Williams: Okay. So in Milan and Paris recently the trends have been showing that clothing, shoes and furniture are basically just covered with fruits and vegetable patterns. So I don't know if we want to go with that um and also the spongy feel is in in contrast to last year. I don't know really, I mean I guess the spongy could relate to the buttons Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: if we want to rather Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: than like a hard clicky button that you find on like some mobiles and stuff, you'd want like a softer touch. I mean do you guys know what I mean. Deborah Wilson: Right. Elaine Hyatt: Yeah Deborah Wilson: Yes. Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: th Lela Williams: Um. But as for the fruits and vegetable patterns, I don't know if we really want to go with that, because it is just a trend, and Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: our product we want to stay around for much longer than just a few months, Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: because Deborah Wilson: People Elaine Hyatt: I Deborah Wilson: don't Elaine Hyatt: I Deborah Wilson: buy Elaine Hyatt: can Deborah Wilson: a new remote Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: every Lela Williams: I mean Deborah Wilson: so Lela Williams: that could Deborah Wilson: often. Lela Williams: just be a Spring thing right now. Elaine Hyatt: I can address some of that issue, I think, with uh my presentation. Lela Williams: Okay. Awesome. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Lela Williams: Um so design preferences, um we need easy to read like large buttons, clearly labelled so that, I mean 'cause we talked about that being a problem. Um and then also buttons illuminating upon touch, you said that in your design, with the bulb. Um and that could also tie in with the colour scheme. Uh we need the Real Reaction logo and colour scheme obviously. That's one of our key goals, we wanna promote our product. And I was thinking about different types of designs and I came up with something. Actually right here. So what we could do is something like an old-fashioned telephone like this, where we put the buttons around, like we'd put a big on-off button or something else in the middle, I mean it could be the arrows or whatever for channel up and down, and then put the numbers around in like an old-fashioned dial shape. 'Cause then it'll appeal to older generation and like said retro's cool. So it's classically retro. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Lela Williams: So I mean that's just an idea if Deborah Wilson: Very Lela Williams: you guys Deborah Wilson: good. I like Lela Williams: like Deborah Wilson: it. Lela Williams: it. Deborah Wilson: Okay, Lela Williams: And, Deborah Wilson: ready for the next slide? Lela Williams: yep. And that's it. Deborah Wilson: Op mm 'kay. Elaine Hyatt: Okay. Deborah Wilson: Great. Great presentation. Ready? Celia Foster: Okay hang on. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Celia Foster: See if it's there. Deborah Wilson: Which one is it? Celia Foster: I don't know. Hang on. Interface concepts, no? Deborah Wilson: Interface concepts new. Celia Foster: Either refresh it, or it sh Oh Deborah Wilson: Y Celia Foster: wait, maybe I didn't put it there. Hang on. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Elaine Hyatt: Mine will always read copy of something or other. Deborah Wilson: Sorry? Elaine Hyatt: I I copied mine before I sent it over. Deborah Wilson: Oh okay. Celia Foster: Sorry, hang on. Don't know. Deborah Wilson: Oh there we go. Celia Foster: Okay. Celia Foster: Okay, um looking at the interface concept, it's gonna be mostly examples of possibilities of where we can go with this. Uh if you wanna start the next slide. Deborah Wilson: Sure. Celia Foster: uh can't really see there's two possible, on the r left, if you see on th on the sides of of the remote, you have the sort of scroll down, so you have that option right there. And then also there's the idea of the base. That's sort of like an idea there. And then on the right, we have what's really big trend right now, it's the iPod. It's becoming really and so you have this sort of very very simplistic menu section uh with the round buttons, and it's sort of like you have the both kind of trendy and hip, but also very sleek and um and very simple, but technologically advanced. So if you wanted to do that th if we could find a way of sort of like using that idea in a remote control then sort of look into it, but Anyway, Deborah Wilson: Mm 'kay. Celia Foster: next. Um there's the idea of like being able to do it by feel as well as by um by sight. You'd you know you're in the dark, you don't wanna be looking at the remote control. And the picture particularly is pointing out if you look at the top volume button it's a V_, and so yo you're kind of feeling a V_ like volume up. What it really is is a V_ and what it you think it is is down, because the down arrow. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: And so it's like a sort of a criticism you'd probably turn that o the other way up. Um but then you have you could either do it by raised type, which could be you know, iffy, um sort of old-fashioned in a way. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: Either that or just have it by shape, for example you have a specific triangular shape that you know you're looking at the up and down arrow. And then the round ones you sort of feel by, you know, that's the second one down, that sort of thing. So it's sort of looking into how we wanted t to do it by feel. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Celia Foster: Okay. Um this is sort of an example of going for a s certain demographic. Um this is particularly geared towards children. Lela Williams: That's cute. Celia Foster: Um it's very cute, and we could probably change it to yellow, bright yellow for like a the for the company logo. Um and you have the shapes and it's very simplistic and friendly looking. Um and then the other thing that it would be able to do is just to pro be ab you program certain channels that only these children would watch, so it's like they ch watch, you know, the C_ Beebies or something like that, uh keep them away from other channels. So that's like another ar Deborah Wilson: Okay. Celia Foster: Um, I mean, these are three examples sort of looking at it. You have the wider section for the main controls there. Uh you could see how many buttons there are. And then on the left you have an example of the round buttons, and a simpler design. On the bottom we probably wouldn't need that, because it's more for like a D_V_D_ function which we are not gonna be using. Um. So again it's sort of like just give you ideas and then down at the bottom you have the logos and that's where you could put the R_R_, Real Reaction. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Celia Foster: And then finally these are like the sort of same examples, but also some more, just possibilities that we could go with. None of them I'm particularly keen on by the way. Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: Hmm. Deborah Wilson: No. Celia Foster: But it's sort of like just taking aspects out of that and saying, well out of this one we like, you know the round section of um, b or we'd like the Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: the button size on this. Deborah Wilson: Or I like, you know, the black finish or the silver finish or whatever. Celia Foster: Right. Lela Williams: I have four of those remotes. Deborah Wilson: Good lord. Okay. Ready? Celia Foster: That's it. Deborah Wilson: Oh, yeah. Okay. Great job. Elaine Hyatt: Okay, my turn. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Lela Williams: Okay. Elaine Hyatt: Whoo. Deborah Wilson: What's the title? Elaine Hyatt: It'll be copy of component design. Deborah Wilson: Got it. Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Th that looks like it. 'Kay. So basic remote runs as follows, press button makes connection with the power source and the rest of the circuit, chip senses the connection, chip produces a morse code infra-red signal, specific to that button. So you press the button, it produces uh a signal that's encoded specifically for that button. Transistors amplify that signal and it goes to the T_V_'s centre, which interprets the signal response accordingly, changes channel etcetera. So that being said Next slide, please. Findings oh which were the required materials for the basic internal construction, so all the really simplistic functions that we just discussed, we need rubber for buttons, aluminium for battery y contacts, integrated circuit which consists of a diode, transistor, resonator, resistors, and a capacitator, all those basic things that make a circuit function. Um fibreglass and thin copper wire to create the actual circuit board itself. An L_E_D_, which is a light emitting diode, um contact discs for the buttons, plastic for the casing, and a power-source, whatever power-source we've actually determined we want. Next slide, please. Thank you. Uh personal preferences, uh to save money for the components, the remote should be mass-produced and basic materials should be bought en masse. Um if we find another company who can produce the required chips, casing, L_E_D_, any additional materials we decide we require at a less expensive rate than we ourselves are producing, we should go for it. Next slide, please. Um just talking to the um manufacturing division. They suggested power options, solar cells, hand dynamo, and kinetic power, so you shake it and it increases the power. Um I'm not sure how the hand dynamo works, they have yet to get back to Lela Williams on that. So Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: next slide, please. Deborah Wilson: Interesting. Elaine Hyatt: Suggested casing options. Okay. We can offer options for casing such as straight, curved, double-curved, you know, very specific to the customer. Options for materials, plastic, rubber, titanium, wood. I don't think anyone's gonna go for a wood one, because splinters Lela Williams: That would be amazing, though, yeah. No, Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: splinters would Elaine Hyatt: Um certain restrictions do apply here though. Uh latex, you can't do solar power with a latex one. So, if they want some a soft squishy rubber, they can't have the solar powered option. Double-curved, you can't Lela Williams: What Elaine Hyatt: do titanium. Lela Williams: is that? Elaine Hyatt: Um that would be two curvatures, so it would actually, if you the shape of your hand, you curve here and you curve here, Deborah Wilson: Mm. Elaine Hyatt: so you could have two curves that match the shape of your hand to make it more comfortable to hold. Lela Williams: Mm. Elaine Hyatt: Now if you wanted that, you can't do titanium. And uh so you functions what for the buttons, scrolling Celia Foster: Right. Elaine Hyatt: function could be very beneficial to us instead of actual buttons themselves. I think Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Elaine Hyatt: I have one more slide. No, I Deborah Wilson: No, Elaine Hyatt: didn't. Deborah Wilson: okay. Elaine Hyatt: Um the manufacturing division also has said that um they have several types of chips and they've just developed a sample sensor or sample speaker chip, which we could utilise. Um push button requires a simple chip and scroll requires more complicated chip. So depends on what we decide we wanna do. In addition to that if we're offering all those different options to the customer for producing their remote, we're going to have to have multiples of each type, like a double-curved in rubber, um you know, each option should have a certain select number produced with all those options. So we'll have to mix it up, make sure we produce enough of everyone. But that could also drive up the price of the Deborah Wilson: Mm. Elaine Hyatt: actual remote itself if they know that we only produced five thousand, you know, double-curved Lela Williams: Right. Elaine Hyatt: wooden remotes. Lela Williams: Okay. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: And Deborah Wilson: Okay. Elaine Hyatt: that's all I got. Deborah Wilson: Alright, well thank you for those informative presentations. Let's go back to um Now we have to make some decisions. Where were we? Celia Foster: Let Lela Williams just add one more thing that I couldn't say before, Deborah Wilson: Sure. Celia Foster: and that's just that there's the new technology that they've developed on the voice recognition. Um. Lela Williams: Oh this the thing we were talking about earlier. Celia Foster: Right except that it's sort of odd, and I'm no not exactly sure why they are explaining it in the way they are, um there's a sample sensor and there's a sample speaker unit for So, you would say like, good morning, coffeemaker, and it would respond, good morning, Jill, but I'm not sure exactly how it's gonna work, 'cause do you programme do we program the responses and the questions. So does that mean that the user then has to ask the specific question, and can't change it Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: in order for it to be recognised, or can it be altered in a certain way, or does the actually user program it, to Deborah Wilson: Right. Celia Foster: say a channel means this. Lela Williams: Yeah, like Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: using the menu to be like, enter your name into the screen like on the menu options. So Celia Foster: Right, Lela Williams: that way the Celia Foster: so it's got Lela Williams: remote Celia Foster: like a limited Lela Williams: reads it. Celia Foster: memory and programme it. So it's sort of iffy, Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: I feel like voice recognition would be, I don't know, Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Lela Williams: w it would be too hard to really Deborah Wilson: Programme. Lela Williams: I mean we could do it, but Deborah Wilson: If it's within our price to get that kind of chip that Lela Williams: Technology. Deborah Wilson: would, you know, technology Elaine Hyatt: Well, we are making the chip. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: So, I mean But, I guess, we have to look at w what our production cost is for the chip itself Lela Williams: And Elaine Hyatt: anyway. Lela Williams: it is a growing trend, Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: the Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: higher technological, like the, I mean just like the more advanced it is, Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: the better it'll Elaine Hyatt: I Lela Williams: sell. Elaine Hyatt: I thought offering some of those options for different materials that it could be made of different, you know I think we'd have to decide on the power options, maybe. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: So Lela Williams: Yeah, Elaine Hyatt: that Lela Williams: 'cause Elaine Hyatt: we Lela Williams: we Elaine Hyatt: could Lela Williams: need to Elaine Hyatt: reduce Lela Williams: know how big Elaine Hyatt: cost. Lela Williams: it's gonna be Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: and how heavy. Deborah Wilson: Okay, that kind of brings us to this, let's let's see Elaine Hyatt: Okay. Deborah Wilson: if we can decide what kind of energy source we want to have first and foremost. Um. Do we wanna go for batteries or a stand like the one that we saw illustrated earlier? Lela Williams: Oh the base, yeah. Deborah Wilson: The base, the charging base Elaine Hyatt: I Celia Foster: I Elaine Hyatt: think Celia Foster: always Elaine Hyatt: the Deborah Wilson: with Celia Foster: feel Elaine Hyatt: p Deborah Wilson: rechargeable Celia Foster: like first Deborah Wilson: batteries? Celia Foster: I wanna know what it looks like, before 'Cause Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Celia Foster: if it's something really really small, then it's sort of harder to imagine a base for it, that was p quite a s substantial size sort of standing up Deborah Wilson: Yeah, Lela Williams: W Deborah Wilson: and we don't have multiple things that it has to control, it just has to control the T_V_. It's not gonna be a huge universal remote. Lela Williams: We Celia Foster: Right. Lela Williams: need to decide, well so we can figure how big it's gonna be, like Deborah Wilson: What Lela Williams: exactly Deborah Wilson: size battery Lela Williams: what Deborah Wilson: and Lela Williams: buttons we want and exactly Celia Foster: Well, the other thing is like even if it's got a few buttons, so we want Lela Williams: It could Celia Foster: it to Lela Williams: be Celia Foster: be Lela Williams: like Celia Foster: bigger Lela Williams: this. Celia Foster: than this, Lela Williams: Yes. I'd, well Celia Foster: 'cause Lela Williams: uh Celia Foster: it still fits in your hand, so you still wanted something that's comfortable and substantial, but not necessarily full of buttons. Lela Williams: This one is really comfortable, like I like the sides whatever, Celia Foster: Are you gonna Lela Williams: because Celia Foster: lose it easier? Lela Williams: But if we have the um, the locator, then we don't have to worry about that. Elaine Hyatt: That's true. Lela Williams: So we can make it small if we have a l locating device. Elaine Hyatt: If Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: we do a voice-activated locator, though, we're gonna be looking at a more substantial chip. So Lela Williams: Hmm. Celia Foster: So i That's the other thing, it's like You know Are we gonna have certain chips that are gonna require bigger size period? Lela Williams: Two double A_s, for this size. Celia Foster: But like, you know, if we get more complicated then it's gonna v be Lela Williams: Right. Celia Foster: have to be bigger to just accommodate the chip size. Elaine Hyatt: Honestly, I think the customer would be kind of irritated by the fact that it has a base if we did do a nice small, compact Deborah Wilson: Right. I agree, Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: it's Celia Foster: So Deborah Wilson: either gonna Celia Foster: we Deborah Wilson: be Celia Foster: sh Deborah Wilson: bigger with a base or smaller Lela Williams: Smaller, Deborah Wilson: with Lela Williams: without Deborah Wilson: just Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: A battery like Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: Mm Deborah Wilson: this Elaine Hyatt: yeah. Deborah Wilson: guy. Alright, so what direction do you want to go in? You wanna vote? Lela Williams: I think if we had a a locating device with the small one, I think that seems way more advanced. Deborah Wilson: I'm kind of Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: I'm kind of Celia Foster: I'm Deborah Wilson: leaning in the Celia Foster: a Deborah Wilson: direction Celia Foster: away Deborah Wilson: of this Celia Foster: from Deborah Wilson: kind of Celia Foster: the base. Deborah Wilson: bigger and Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: the Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: base. Elaine Hyatt: 'Kay Deborah Wilson: That just Elaine Hyatt: so Deborah Wilson: seems so clunky and Lela Williams: Yeah, because I mean if even looking at cellphones right now, those trends the smaller Celia Foster: Smaller Lela Williams: the Celia Foster: and smaller, yeah, Lela Williams: hotter Celia Foster: yeah, yeah. Lela Williams: it is, yeah Deborah Wilson: Okay. Elaine Hyatt: The only problem with that is if you forget to take it out of your pocket and it goes in wash. Lela Williams: Oh. Celia Foster: You're kidding. Elaine Hyatt: You know it happens. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: I've had three watches go that way too. Celia Foster: Oh watches Lela Williams: Ouch. Celia Foster: I've but I've never washed a cell Lela Williams: A phone, Celia Foster: phone. Lela Williams: whoa, that would wow, that would hurt. Deborah Wilson: Okay, Elaine Hyatt: Pieces Deborah Wilson: so Elaine Hyatt: everywhere. Deborah Wilson: what kind of material do we want to be made out of? Elaine Hyatt: Well, we have lots of options. I don't think wood is a viable Lela Williams: Yeah Elaine Hyatt: option. Lela Williams: wood. Deborah Wilson: No. Celia Foster: Well, titanium Deborah Wilson: Oh what did you Oh sorry, Celia Foster: s Deborah Wilson: go ahead. Celia Foster: I was saying that titanium, if we're being restricted then I would probably lean away from that. Lela Williams: Yeah, 'cause if it's gonna cost us more to produce a chip, titanium will be more expensive. Deborah Wilson: Right. Elaine Hyatt: However, Deborah Wilson: What would you recommend? Elaine Hyatt: well, Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: we only wanna sell it for twenty five Euro right? Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: 'Cause I was thinking if we wanted to get the high in market Celia Foster: That'll Elaine Hyatt: then Celia Foster: Yeah, Elaine Hyatt: you could Celia Foster: exactly. Elaine Hyatt: produce a few in titanium, Deborah Wilson: Mm. Elaine Hyatt: make them a rarity Celia Foster: The selling Elaine Hyatt: so to Celia Foster: point, Lela Williams: We Elaine Hyatt: speak. Lela Williams: could Celia Foster: yeah. Lela Williams: do that, because all our research shows that people are definitely willing to spend more Celia Foster: Are we Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Celia Foster: restricted Lela Williams: if Celia Foster: by this? Elaine Hyatt: Well the Deborah Wilson: I Elaine Hyatt: original Celia Foster: Twenty five Deborah Wilson: I think Celia Foster: Euros Deborah Wilson: we should just focus on one design and one concept right now.I'm Elaine Hyatt: Okay. Deborah Wilson: not sure that we'll have the time and money to produce a whole array of remotes. If this was a successful remote, we might then produce a higher end version of it, I think. Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: Good plan. Elaine Hyatt: Good plan. Deborah Wilson: Okay, so we wanna go for plastic, or what would you recommend for materials? Elaine Hyatt: Honestly I'd Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: recommend like um uh since we're going with batteries instead of solar power, I'd recommend maybe a uh soft like latex, because we could produce, you know how cellphones have those overlays that you can change the colour. We could Lela Williams: Oh. Deborah Wilson: Mm-hmm. Elaine Hyatt: do uh one that fits Deborah Wilson: Mm. Elaine Hyatt: in with the trends of the year so, because this year is all fruit, God only Lela Williams: Yeah, Elaine Hyatt: knows why, Lela Williams: who knows. Elaine Hyatt: um we could do f a cherry cover for this year and then i if next year is stripes or solids, you know Deborah Wilson: Okay. Celia Foster: So you're talking about like when it leaves our salesroom then it's all gonna be cherry-coloured or is it gonna be the kinda thing where people come Lela Williams: O Celia Foster: back Lela Williams: or we Celia Foster: and Lela Williams: could Celia Foster: swap Lela Williams: like take Deborah Wilson: They could Celia Foster: it? Lela Williams: off Elaine Hyatt: They could Deborah Wilson: buy Elaine Hyatt: come Lela Williams: this. Elaine Hyatt: back. Deborah Wilson: cases, maybe, Elaine Hyatt: And buy the extra case. Celia Foster: Okay. Deborah Wilson: if they wanted. I think it's good to sell a basic thing and then sell Elaine Hyatt: So we could do like Deborah Wilson: options. Elaine Hyatt: a b a hard base plastic, and Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: then we could give Celia Foster: The Elaine Hyatt: two Celia Foster: what the Elaine Hyatt: latex Celia Foster: top face, Elaine Hyatt: covers Lela Williams: Yeah. Celia Foster: right? Deborah Wilson: Okay. Elaine Hyatt: to start. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Lela Williams: Yeah, because the soft latex definitely is squishy. That's in. Well I mean squishier than like, Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: yeah, Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: just a hard plastic. Deborah Wilson: Okay, and what kind of chip would we need for this guy? Elaine Hyatt: How complicated Are we gonna go with the Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: voice activated Deborah Wilson: I don't think we should do voice, I think we should just do um the recognition for when it's lost, you know. Celia Foster: A Deborah Wilson: could we Celia Foster: tracker, yeah. Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Lela Williams: 'Cause that uh what it type of, yeah, like a certain term what we would say like, Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Lela Williams: because people could just be talking and we don't want it going off all the time. Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: So uh Elaine Hyatt: Well, we could give it a specific code, you know, remote missing. Lela Williams: Ooh. Uh see I'm uh I'm strangely attracted to it, because I know that's it's definitely gonna be big, because it's, I don't know, it's Celia Foster: Well, Lela Williams: just so high-tech. Celia Foster: my little sister got for Christmas she got one of those key finders that's like a key-ring, and you have to whistle in a certain frequency for it to work. Elaine Hyatt: Yeah, see that Celia Foster: And Elaine Hyatt: would Celia Foster: then Elaine Hyatt: just Celia Foster: she Elaine Hyatt: irritate Celia Foster: would laugh Elaine Hyatt: Lela Williams. Celia Foster: and it would start going off in her purse, and you couldn't turn it off. Deborah Wilson: Oh dear. Lela Williams: Oh, Celia Foster: So Lela Williams: then Celia Foster: it became Lela Williams: maybe voice Celia Foster: highly irritating. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Lela Williams: maybe voice Elaine Hyatt: So Lela Williams: activation Elaine Hyatt: I think Lela Williams: won't Elaine Hyatt: having Lela Williams: be good. Elaine Hyatt: a key-phrase is much better. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Alright. But it's not gonna be voice activated in the fact that you would say, channel up, and it would work, right? Lela Williams: Yeah, n n no, we Celia Foster: But Lela Williams: just Celia Foster: then Deborah Wilson: Just Elaine Hyatt: No. Celia Foster: it Lela Williams: want it to Deborah Wilson: a Lela Williams: be a finder. Deborah Wilson: Okay, alright. Celia Foster: Hmm. Okay. Lela Williams: But do can your can the department make Elaine Hyatt: That would be like a mid-class um Lela Williams: Oh, Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: brilliant then. Elaine Hyatt: So we don't actually have to go for Well, if they've just developed the sample sensor, sample speaker, it's a brand new chip. Why not introduce Deborah Wilson: No. Elaine Hyatt: it in this way? Lela Williams: Yeah, Deborah Wilson: Mm 'kay. Lela Williams: good point. Deborah Wilson: Uh and what size batteries, double A_, triple A_? Lela Williams: I think triple A_, it'll be lighter. Deborah Wilson: Two? Could Lela Williams: I Deborah Wilson: it Lela Williams: mean Deborah Wilson: run Lela Williams: more Deborah Wilson: off of two Lela Williams: more Celia Foster: Well, Lela Williams: come Celia Foster: that Lela Williams: in Celia Foster: depends Lela Williams: a package. Celia Foster: on what the energy is needed. Lela Williams: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: I think, well, we could d r do two or we could do one small lithium, 'cause you know the lithium batteries are doing quite well in most other electronic products, right? So they're more widely available now. And they also have a longer battery life than most batteries. Deborah Wilson: They're more expensive though, too. Elaine Hyatt: But if you only have to replace it every five years. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: That's a good Deborah Wilson: Thoughts Lela Williams: point. Celia Foster: As Deborah Wilson: anybody? Celia Foster: long as we sell it with it. Elaine Hyatt: Well, how about a initial, you get one battery when you buy it, 'cause Celia Foster: Right, Elaine Hyatt: I'm pretty Celia Foster: that's Elaine Hyatt: sure Celia Foster: what Elaine Hyatt: we can Celia Foster: I meant. Elaine Hyatt: get them Lela Williams: We Elaine Hyatt: pretty Lela Williams: could think Elaine Hyatt: cheap Lela Williams: about Elaine Hyatt: on bulk. Lela Williams: it and Deborah Wilson: Okay. Lela Williams: come back to it next meeting. Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Lela Williams: We still have one more meeting. Deborah Wilson: Alright. Deborah Wilson: Okay. So we've covered that first category, User Interface Concept, meaning design. Celia Foster: What's it gonna Yeah, what's it gonna look like. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Celia Foster: Um. Deborah Wilson: I ki I kind of like your idea about the retro phone dial, and that the central button could have, maybe our logo on it? It might be the four way scroll, too. Lela Williams: Yeah, Deborah Wilson: I mean Lela Williams: it could Deborah Wilson: if Lela Williams: be whatever, Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Lela Williams: as long as there's something big in the middle, because like the old phones, Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Lela Williams: there's like that just like piece of metal Deborah Wilson: Mm-hmm. Lela Williams: or like Celia Foster: Well, Lela Williams: a picture or something in the Celia Foster: my Lela Williams: middle. Celia Foster: issue with that is if it got too big though, 'cause if you have the circle and the button in the middle, then is it gonna get wider Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: than Lela Williams: Oh, that's Celia Foster: your Lela Williams: true. Celia Foster: your hands are, because w And then would the buttons be too small if it was enough to fit on it? Lela Williams: Good point. Elaine Hyatt: In the sample ones that you showed us there was one that had the scroll buttons on the side, Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: which I think if we make it curved like a hand like a hand-shape like if we put the the scroll-button on the side, Deborah Wilson: Oh, I see what Elaine Hyatt: that Deborah Wilson: you mean. Elaine Hyatt: could be particularly useful. Deborah Wilson: I think so. Lela Williams: So scroll buttons on the side and Deborah Wilson: Yeah, Lela Williams: then buttons Deborah Wilson: I like Lela Williams: on Deborah Wilson: that. Lela Williams: top? Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Lela Williams: But we definitely If we have scroll things on the side, we definitely have to have 'em labelled. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: Yeah, like Elaine Hyatt: Well, Lela Williams: on Elaine Hyatt: if it's Lela Williams: the side Elaine Hyatt: just up Lela Williams: of Elaine Hyatt: and Lela Williams: it. Elaine Hyatt: down Lela Williams: Oh if it's just up and down. Celia Foster: But is that for Elaine Hyatt: Volume or channel. Celia Foster: Which? Elaine Hyatt: I don't know. Lela Williams: Well, you could do Celia Foster: Do we Lela Williams: some Celia Foster: have both Lela Williams: on both Celia Foster: sides? Lela Williams: sides. Deborah Wilson: Can Elaine Hyatt: Mm Deborah Wilson: we? Elaine Hyatt: yeah. We should probably make it that you have to depress it to activate it then, Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: So that you're Elaine Hyatt: 'cause Deborah Wilson: just Elaine Hyatt: oth Deborah Wilson: not holding Elaine Hyatt: otherwise Lela Williams: That's Deborah Wilson: it and Lela Williams: squishy. Elaine Hyatt: you're Deborah Wilson: it Elaine Hyatt: not Deborah Wilson: changes Elaine Hyatt: just Deborah Wilson: the chan Elaine Hyatt: holding Lela Williams: That's Elaine Hyatt: it Lela Williams: squishy. Elaine Hyatt: and going like this, Celia Foster: Well, Elaine Hyatt: you Celia Foster: the Elaine Hyatt: know. Celia Foster: other option is in instead of a scroll you just have Lela Williams: have Celia Foster: the buttons Lela Williams: buttons. Celia Foster: up on the side which Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: are on the side. Elaine Hyatt: Okay. Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Lela Williams: Yeah, that. Deborah Wilson: Hmm. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay any other ideas? Celia Foster: Um what colour? Deborah Wilson: Oh, yeah. Latex covers. Elaine Hyatt: We Deborah Wilson: W Elaine Hyatt: have to make sure that logo always sticks out when we put the latex covers on, so we'll have to like have a little square or something, so that the Celia Foster: Well Elaine Hyatt: our logo's Celia Foster: I sort Elaine Hyatt: available. Celia Foster: of like having the a yellow strip at the bottom with the R_R_ like that. Lela Williams: Yeah. Celia Foster: And that's at the bottom of it. Deborah Wilson: I think maybe we should do it on a b button itself though, because if people are able Celia Foster: Which Deborah Wilson: to Celia Foster: button? Deborah Wilson: change the covers, maybe the on-off button, something, some the menu button, I don't know, but you know if we're gonna put our company logo on there and somebody could just get another one. Are they all gonna have our company logo on them? Every cover? Elaine Hyatt: Yeah, I don't think we should do that, because that would just be icky. Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: So I think maybe putting it on a button is probably a good idea. Deborah Wilson: If we want it to be visible and Um are all those those one that you showed where they were um s met silver-metallic looking? Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: But those are plastic, right? Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: They're not titanium. I kind of like that look. Uh but, or if Elaine Hyatt: For Deborah Wilson: it was Elaine Hyatt: our base Deborah Wilson: really Elaine Hyatt: one? Deborah Wilson: Yeah, for the base or if we're going for the retro look, I think, like a really shiny black would be cool. Lela Williams: Yeah, Deborah Wilson: What Lela Williams: or like Deborah Wilson: are your Lela Williams: a Deborah Wilson: thoughts? Lela Williams: gun-metal grey, Deborah Wilson: Gun-metal Lela Williams: 'cause then Deborah Wilson: gray. Lela Williams: it combines the silver and the black. Deborah Wilson: There you go, gun-metal gray. Celia Foster: I'm just really wary of the putting anything on a button. Deborah Wilson: Why? Elaine Hyatt: It'll wear off. Celia Foster: What's the Lela Williams: Yeah, Celia Foster: button Lela Williams: buttons wear Celia Foster: Well, Lela Williams: off. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: w w then what's the button do, and how do you know that that is what the button does? I guess. Just looking at examples, y you just don't ever see the logo on a button, it's always on the actual casing. Deborah Wilson: Right. Lela Williams: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: There's nothing saying that we have to put the logo on the front Lela Williams: But Deborah Wilson: On Elaine Hyatt: of Celia Foster: But Lela Williams: we Elaine Hyatt: the Deborah Wilson: the Lela Williams: want Celia Foster: you Elaine Hyatt: actual Celia Foster: don't Deborah Wilson: back? Lela Williams: it to be seen. Deborah Wilson: It d visible Celia Foster: But uh, Lela Williams: We Celia Foster: yeah, Lela Williams: need it Celia Foster: you Deborah Wilson: Visibility Lela Williams: to Celia Foster: don't Lela Williams: be seen. Celia Foster: see it. Deborah Wilson: though 'Cause if it was only on the back really the only time you're gonna see it is Celia Foster: Well, Deborah Wilson: when you drop it or Celia Foster: hang Deborah Wilson: when Celia Foster: on. Deborah Wilson: you're changing the battery. Celia Foster: The other option is, I don't know if you can see it but it's like if Deborah Wilson: I can find it again. Celia Foster: Yeah, it's like the second to last slide. Deborah Wilson: Okay. And yours was called Interface Celia Foster: Interface, Deborah Wilson: Concept? Celia Foster: yeah. Deborah Wilson: This one? Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: Well, Celia Foster: Um. Deborah Wilson: for some reason I can't get it to just go to that slide directly. Celia Foster: Okay, it's the very right one. You see at the bottom, it's kind of difficult to see, but you have like a d sort of s division between the bottom like, where the logo is, and if we have the replaceable section, it's like the top. It doesn't necessarily replace the entire top. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Celia Foster: And so you have that one piece that stays and the rest just sort of clips in. Deborah Wilson: Okay, Celia Foster: If Deborah Wilson: yes Celia Foster: c you envisioning it? And so Deborah Wilson: yes. Celia Foster: that stays the same when you have the logo, and then you have this s slip that kinda clips in and that's the bit that changes. Deborah Wilson: Okay. Elaine Hyatt: The only problem is we're using a latex overlay so it actually would go over top of everything and have Celia Foster: Hmm. Elaine Hyatt: holes for the buttons, so I was thinking maybe instead of doing that what we could do is leave a space for where Celia Foster: Yeah. Elaine Hyatt: the logo should Celia Foster: Yeah, yeah. Elaine Hyatt: be. Deborah Wilson: Like a little cut-out kind Elaine Hyatt: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: of Celia Foster: Right. That's Deborah Wilson: Okay. Celia Foster: like, you know, a a cellphone it's like the the screen Lela Williams: Right. Celia Foster: is always just left opened. And so, what we are gonna do it like bright yellow with the R_R_? Lela Williams: Yeah. Lela Williams: Some Deborah Wilson: Anybody Lela Williams: of tho Deborah Wilson: see anything that they liked in Lela Williams: Well, Deborah Wilson: these Lela Williams: some Deborah Wilson: ones? Lela Williams: of those buttons though are blue-based. Um Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: well, a lot of those buttons are blue-based. Well, kind Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: of. Um and then if v we do have them illuminate upon contact, Celia Foster: Yellow. Lela Williams: they could illuminate yellow. Deborah Wilson: Yellow, Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: I like that idea. Lela Williams: Like if we like the one all the way on the left, uh you ca you can see it on your computer better. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: Um where the button is actually blue, but the number itself is clear or white or whatever so if you pressed it would illuminate yellow. Deborah Wilson: Mm. Lela Williams: So we'd have blue and yellow for the touch Celia Foster: Oh, Lela Williams: buttons. Celia Foster: that one. Deborah Wilson: I like Lela Williams: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: the yellow illumination idea, very good. Okay. Any other ideas or thoughts? We Celia Foster: Um. Deborah Wilson: all seem to be fairly in agreement about what we wanna Celia Foster: Ha hang on Deborah Wilson: do with this project so Celia Foster: Let Lela Williams: Mm Celia Foster: Lela Williams Lela Williams: yeah. Celia Foster: catch up. Deborah Wilson: 'Kay. Celia Foster: Did we finalise what buttons we're including or we just everything that we said before? Deborah Wilson: I think there will be time for that later. I'm guessing. 'Kay, well we're gonna wrap this up. Um next meeting is gonna start in thirty minutes, and here's what we're each of us going to do. The I_D_ is going to do the look and feel design, the U_I_D_ the user interface design. I think you're going to get a lot of, I mean, the final say on what buttons get put We'll all talk about it, but I think, that's pretty much what you're gonna do, right? Celia Foster: Yeah. Deborah Wilson: I guess. 'Kay. And you're gonna do some product evaluation. Okay, and right now, the I_D_ and U_I_D_, you two are going to work together on a prototype using modelling clay. Elaine Hyatt: Great. Celia Foster: Fun. Elaine Hyatt: Play Doh. Deborah Wilson: Yeah. Okay, and you should all be getting an email pretty soon. Alright. Well, Elaine Hyatt: Wonderful Deborah Wilson: thank you for a very productive meeting. Elaine Hyatt: Ooh.

Lela Williams presented more information on user requirements which showed that users wanted the look of a high-tech device that was still simple to use. She presented the fruit and vegetable fashion trend that the group will integrate into their design. Celia Foster presented several ideas for the interface design taken from existing product designs. Elaine Hyatt discussed the necessary internal components and presented options for energy sources and materials. Celia Foster also presented the sample speaker technology recently developed by the company. The group had a discussion to finalize the prototype features. It was decided that the device will be small with a locator function instead of having a charging stand. Voice recognition will not be included outside of the locator function. It will be covered by interchangeable latex casings. To incorporate the company logo and color, the buttons will be illuminated yellow when pressed and the logo will be displayed through the latex casings. Deborah Wilson instructed Celia Foster and Elaine Hyatt to build the prototype, with Celia Foster deciding which buttons will be included. Lela Williams will prepare a prototype evaluation.

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Elaine Orr: I wanna find our if our remote works. Sallie Teran: Elaine Orr too. Elaine Orr: Oh. Sallie Teran: Okay. Elaine Orr: Whoohoo. Sallie Teran: Um here's the agenda for our last meeting. Um after the opening we're going to have a prototype presentation, then we're going to discuss the evaluation criteria and the financing of our remote. Then we're going to evaluate the product and I think the whole production process, and then we're gonna close it up, and we have forty minutes, so let's get started. Oh, no, let's have the prototype presentation. Lenora Wires: Mm 'kay, you ready? Catherine Gliem: Um sure. You or Elaine Orr? Lenora Wires: Y you read that stuff, since Catherine Gliem: Okay Lenora Wires: you wrote it. Catherine Gliem: Well. since Lenora Wires: I'll Catherine Gliem: our Lenora Wires: be the Vanna. Catherine Gliem: materials aren't exactly what we were going for, I'm just gonna translate what this all means for you. The base is gonna be gunmetal gray, which is what we had decided, and it's gonna be plastic. Um then there's the latex cover, which is what you see as red. Um because it can be replaceable, we just kinda went with the colour. Sallie Teran: Right. Catherine Gliem: Um and then the top. Um and the buttons will be a l much lighter blue, almost see-through. Sallie Teran: Hmm. Catherine Gliem: It's just sort of a very pale blue and a Elaine Orr: That's Catherine Gliem: light-up Elaine Orr: nice. Catherine Gliem: yellow. Sallie Teran: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: The whole thing lights up if you press any button, rather than it just that one button will light up. Elaine Orr: Good. Catherine Gliem: Um and then at the bottom we have our logo. Um bright yellow sort of design with the R_R_ which will actually look like our logo. Sallie Teran: Great. Catherine Gliem: And then on the side you have the buttons. They're one button, but they kind of push up and down. Sallie Teran: Okay. Catherine Gliem: I don't think they're scrolling. Lenora Wires: No. They're just buttons. Catherine Gliem: Right, yeah. And then yeah, the buttons. Lenora Wires: On off switch will be here and as you've noticed on our prototype um they've ended up with a curvature kind of, by concave sort of thing, except for, you know, can't see underneath. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Lenora Wires: So I'm hoping that when we get to production we can actually make them like that, because they're very nice to stock you know, stick your finger in Elaine Orr: Yeah. Lenora Wires: Um. Catherine Gliem: Thumb-shaped. Lenora Wires: the two squared buttons are are two probably least used, menu, mute, and then these are the numbers, so our channel and our volume will be on either side. Catherine Gliem: Yeah. And then the last thing is just that it'll be black labelling on top, just which we didn't do. Sallie Teran: Okay. And did you determine um the curvature of the bottom part of it for the hand, is it gonna be a single or a double? Lenora Wires: I'd say a single. Sallie Teran: Single. Catherine Gliem: Single. Sallie Teran: Single sounds good, 'cause it's not Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: big enough to really constitute a double. Catherine Gliem: Right. Lenora Wires: Yeah, it's only actually the size of my hand. Sallie Teran: Great. Great. I think you did an awesome job. Elaine Orr: Yeah, I think it's a beautiful Sallie Teran: It is beautiful, and it's everything that we discussed. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Good job, you guys. Sallie Teran: Good job. Catherine Gliem: Oh thank Lenora Wires: Whoohoo. Catherine Gliem: you. Elaine Orr: Those are really good. Sallie Teran: Alright what's next in our agenda? Um we're gonna discuss the evaluation criteria, and that's with Courtney. Elaine Orr: Okay, it's a PowerPoint presentation. I don't really know exactly what we should uh talk about. It's under evaluation. Sallie Teran: Right. Elaine Orr: Alright. Um so these are the criteria we're gonna ask, is it easy to use, is it fashionable uh I guess we should down so we can Sallie Teran: Mm. Elaine Orr: reference them. Catherine Gliem: Feel good meaning what? Elaine Orr: Like does it feel good, Catherine Gliem: Physically, Elaine Orr: like yeah, physically. Sallie Teran: Right. Catherine Gliem: okay. Sallie Teran: Sqi Elaine Orr: That's just for current trend. Sallie Teran: Right. Elaine Orr: It doesn't really count, you guys. Lenora Wires: Yeah, it was a little difficult to incorporate the cover with the cherry fruit on it. Elaine Orr: Yeah. But it's so we do have removable covers, right? Sallie Teran: Right. Lenora Wires: Yes. Elaine Orr: Yeah, well then that's covered. And so Sallie Teran: 'Kay. Elaine Orr: we n k everybody have that? Sallie Teran: I'll wait. Elaine Orr: Yeah, she's got it. It's Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Elaine Orr: good. Yeah. Okay so, we're using the criteria uh for a seven point scale, and so we need to discuss how we feel. It falls within this range, so for easy to use, do we feel it's very easy to use? Sallie Teran: Are we Catherine Gliem: True Sallie Teran: going Catherine Gliem: or false, Sallie Teran: to indi Catherine Gliem: easy Sallie Teran: I say Catherine Gliem: to use. Sallie Teran: we individually rate what Elaine Orr: You Sallie Teran: do you Elaine Orr: guys Sallie Teran: say? Just Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Sallie Teran: orally. Why not? We have okay. Elaine Orr: Okay. Sallie Teran: Um easy to use. I vote six. Elaine Orr: Oh wait, that's false. Sallie Teran: Oh, two. Elaine Orr: Okay. Lenora Wires: I'd say two as well. Catherine Gliem: Yeah, two. Elaine Orr: Two. Sallie Teran: Uh Elaine Orr: That's what I say. Sallie Teran: hello, we're great. Elaine Orr: Okay, fashionable? Sallie Teran: Um Lenora Wires: At the Sallie Teran: one. Lenora Wires: moment, no. Elaine Orr: No. Sallie Teran: No. Elaine Orr: I mean like no, I think it's very Sallie Teran: Elaine Orr Elaine Orr: fashionable. Sallie Teran: too, very chic. Elaine Orr: I thi I would give it a one. Lenora Wires: Okay. Sallie Teran: One, I give it Lenora Wires: I'll Sallie Teran: a one. Lenora Wires: give it a two, because at the moment it's not looking that way. Elaine Orr: Well, Sallie Teran: Oh, Elaine Orr: that's Sallie Teran: and Elaine Orr: that's Sallie Teran: ma it's Elaine Orr: just Sallie Teran: a Elaine Orr: like Sallie Teran: prototype, Elaine Orr: that's a clay, it's Sallie Teran: right. Elaine Orr: a prototype. What do you Catherine Gliem: Mm Elaine Orr: think? Catherine Gliem: I don't think it's that fashionable. I'd give it like three or four. Sallie Teran: Well, Elaine Orr: Okay. Sallie Teran: now I'm. So, the average is about a two. Elaine Orr: Yeah, it's a two. Catherine Gliem: But then I'm not Sallie Teran: Two Catherine Gliem: fashionable, Sallie Teran: or three. Catherine Gliem: so don't Sallie Teran: Two Catherine Gliem: use Sallie Teran: point Catherine Gliem: my opinion. Sallie Teran: five. Elaine Orr: That's okay. Yeah. Lenora Wires: Neither Elaine Orr: Um Lenora Wires: are all o all the customers we have, either. Elaine Orr: does it feel good? Sallie Teran: Imagine, since we obviously don't Elaine Orr: I Catherine Gliem: Does Sallie Teran: have Catherine Gliem: it Elaine Orr: feel Catherine Gliem: feel Sallie Teran: that. Elaine Orr: like Catherine Gliem: good? Lenora Wires: Uh the shape of it actually does uh. Sallie Teran: And it's i it is very ergonomically designed. It's gonna be curved. Catherine Gliem: Yeah, it's gonna be thicker. Sallie Teran: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: Depth. Elaine Orr: I think it feels good. Sallie Teran: I think so too. Elaine Orr: I'll give it a two. Sallie Teran: 'Kay. Two. Catherine Gliem: I'll give it a one. Elaine Orr: What do you say? Lenora Wires: I'd say a two. Sallie Teran: Alright, Elaine Orr: Okay. Sallie Teran: average is two. Is it technologically innovative? Oh sorry I'm taking over your job Elaine Orr: Oh Sallie Teran: here. Elaine Orr: no, it's fine, you're Sallie Teran: Go right Elaine Orr: I mean Sallie Teran: ahead. Elaine Orr: you're Project Manager. Um yeah, I mean and it does it have voice I mean the phrase recognition on it? Sallie Teran: Yes. Right? We were able to do it with that kind of Catherine Gliem: Oh right, the Sallie Teran: chip. Lenora Wires: We could do it with the chip, yes. It wasn't we have no Elaine Orr: And Lenora Wires: reflection Elaine Orr: there's no way you can Lenora Wires: of Elaine Orr: represent Lenora Wires: it on the Elaine Orr: it on Lenora Wires: prototype, Elaine Orr: here. Sallie Teran: Yeah, Lenora Wires: but that's Sallie Teran: right. Lenora Wires: because Elaine Orr: Y Lenora Wires: it's Sallie Teran: That Lenora Wires: only Sallie Teran: was Lenora Wires: two dimensions, Sallie Teran: 'kay. Lenora Wires: really. Sallie Teran: And we discussed that Elaine Orr: Yeah, Catherine Gliem: Right. Sallie Teran: being Elaine Orr: so. Sallie Teran: included. Elaine Orr: Then yes, then I would well it isn't what else would it need Lenora Wires: It Elaine Orr: for it to be technologically innovative? Sallie Teran: Well we don' have the you know, we can't say channel, and it changes the channel, Elaine Orr: And Sallie Teran: channel Elaine Orr: it doesn't Sallie Teran: eight. Elaine Orr: cover anything other then T_V_, so Sallie Teran: Right. Elaine Orr: I'd probably give it a three. Lenora Wires: Yeah. Sallie Teran: Okay. Elaine Orr: Even though it is for just a T_V_ remote it's uh very advanced. But it is just a T_V_ remote. Sallie Teran: Yeah. I'd go for a three or four on that one, so Catherine Gliem: Yeah I go four. Sallie Teran: okay, let's go for a three point five. Lenora Wires: Three and an half. Sallie Teran: Alright, and the last criteria is it is it um Catherine Gliem: Squishy and fruity. Sallie Teran: Well, Elaine Orr: Well Sallie Teran: we've covered that with Catherine Gliem: It's Sallie Teran: the Catherine Gliem: just trendy, basically. Sallie Teran: trendy. Elaine Orr: yeah, so I'd give it a two. Lenora Wires: It's Sallie Teran: Sure. Lenora Wires: capable of being Sallie Teran: Capable. Lenora Wires: squishy Elaine Orr: Oh, it's very Lenora Wires: and Elaine Orr: capable Sallie Teran: Very Lenora Wires: fruity. Sallie Teran: capable. Elaine Orr: of being squishy and fruity. Catherine Gliem: Okay. Sallie Teran: And it's very important. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: 'Kay, there we go. Elaine Orr: Okay, Sallie Teran: So. Elaine Orr: next. Sallie Teran: Next. Elaine Orr: So um our re model slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie appears to be a winner, and uh hopefully we'll sell millions. Good job, team. Lenora Wires: How did you get that in there? Elaine Orr: What? Lenora Wires: The slightly resembling a giant delicious cookie. Elaine Orr: It it does. Sallie Teran: It does. Lenora Wires: That was good. Elaine Orr: Thanks. Sallie Teran: Very good. Alright, let's go back to this No, that's it. Hmm. Oops. Okay, so now uh we're moving on to finance, okay. I'm gonna show you an Excel spreadsheet and we're going to fill it in together based on what components we're including in our remote and see if it's under twelve fifty Euro. If so, we can proceed, if not, we need to go back to the drawing board a little bit. 'Kay? So let Elaine Orr bring that up. Here we go. Alright. Um it's not hand dynamo, it's powered by battery, Lenora Wires: Yep. Sallie Teran: so we give it a Elaine Orr: Two. Sallie Teran: Number of components you plan to use. Do I just put quantity being one battery, or Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: Yeah. Lenora Wires: Mm 'kay. Sallie Teran: But if it's a do you wanna go for this is where we need to make a final call on if it's a lithium or do we wanna go triple A_s, 'cause triple A_s we're gonna have t do more than one battery. Oh, let's just go for a lithium. What do you say? Elaine Orr: Yeah, let's Lenora Wires: Yeah, Elaine Orr: let's do a lithium. Sallie Teran: I think Lenora Wires: it's. Sallie Teran: uh I think Elaine Orr: We're gon Sallie Teran: the people Elaine Orr: that's gon Sallie Teran: who purchase this are gonna be technologically Elaine Orr: Nologically advanced, Sallie Teran: right. Elaine Orr: yeah. Sallie Teran: Okay, down to the electronics um section. We're gonna need this kind, correct, Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: if we do Lenora Wires: Yep. Sallie Teran: the voice sensor, so one of those. It is a single-curved, so one of those. Elaine Orr: Uh. Sallie Teran: Oh. What's that? Yeah, that's Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: correct. 'Kay, down here, Catherine Gliem: It's Sallie Teran: case Elaine Orr: We Catherine Gliem: plastic. Sallie Teran: material. Elaine Orr: plastic. Sallie Teran: Plastic. Elaine Orr: And Catherine Gliem: And Elaine Orr: special Catherine Gliem: special Elaine Orr: colour. Catherine Gliem: colour. Sallie Teran: 'Kay. Down here, interface type. We're gonna have the integrated scroll scroll Catherine Gliem: No, we Sallie Teran: wheel. Catherine Gliem: don't have the scroll. Sallie Teran: Isn't oh those are just regular Elaine Orr: But Sallie Teran: buttons. Elaine Orr: it's Lenora Wires: Well, Catherine Gliem: Buttons. Lenora Wires: that's the push-button too, right there. Elaine Orr: Yeah, but i Sallie Teran: This? Elaine Orr: so Lenora Wires: Integrated Elaine Orr: i Lenora Wires: scroll-wheel or push-button. We're really having just push-button interface. Sallie Teran: Okay, so we can just go um. Elaine Orr: But will we w actually we'll need two, won't we? One for the top and then one for the s one e for each side. Lenora Wires: But it that just covers the type of button we're having. Because we're not doing a scroll on the side, it's still push-button. Catherine Gliem: Oh like the twenty nine means like you have both scrolls and Lenora Wires: Push-button. Catherine Gliem: push-buttons. Elaine Orr: Okay. Sallie Teran: Right Lenora Wires: But we just Sallie Teran: I Catherine Gliem: But Sallie Teran: think Catherine Gliem: we Lenora Wires: have Catherine Gliem: don't Sallie Teran: she's Catherine Gliem: have Lenora Wires: push Catherine Gliem: any scrolls. Sallie Teran: I think what Courtney's talking about is do we need to put two Elaine Orr: Like Sallie Teran: here? Elaine Orr: because there's like one interface right here and then because it's not gonna be on the same plane when you press the button. There's Sallie Teran: Right. Elaine Orr: gonna have to be Lenora Wires: Yeah. Elaine Orr: additional signals on the sides. So Lenora Wires: Okay. Elaine Orr: is that gonna be an extra one on each side? Sallie Teran: I don't know, they might put us well, let's Catherine Gliem: Two interfaces, Sallie Teran: just. Catherine Gliem: is that what w should we Lenora Wires: Let's Sallie Teran: Two Catherine Gliem: s Lenora Wires: call Catherine Gliem: say? Sallie Teran: or Lenora Wires: it th Sallie Teran: would Elaine Orr: Or Sallie Teran: it Elaine Orr: three, Sallie Teran: be three? Elaine Orr: because of one on each side and Catherine Gliem: Okay, Elaine Orr: one on Catherine Gliem: fine. Elaine Orr: top. Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Elaine Orr: I mean it's fine 'cause it comes out the same as twenty nine. Well less than twenty nine even. Lenora Wires: Okay. Sallie Teran: Okay and we're gonna button supplements the buttons are no Elaine Orr: They're Sallie Teran: uh Elaine Orr: a special colour. Sallie Teran: okay. Elaine Orr: Um they're uh they're a special form, 'cause Sallie Teran: Are Elaine Orr: they're Sallie Teran: they? Elaine Orr: indented. Sallie Teran: Oh, right. Catherine Gliem: And Elaine Orr: And, Catherine Gliem: then Elaine Orr: they're Catherine Gliem: s Elaine Orr: a special material. Catherine Gliem: yeah. Sallie Teran: Mm. Well, we're under cost then. Alright. Catherine Gliem: We're over? Sallie Teran: No, Lenora Wires: Grand. Elaine Orr: We're Sallie Teran: we're Elaine Orr: under. Sallie Teran: under. Twelve Catherine Gliem: Okay. Sallie Teran: point five is our limit. Catherine Gliem: Oh, Sallie Teran: We've Catherine Gliem: I see. Sallie Teran: got eleven point two. Lenora Wires: So Sallie Teran: Alright. Lenora Wires: we can go to production. Sallie Teran: We can go to Sallie Teran: I dunno what I just did. Okay. Now we're gonna talk about the project process um and whether or not we're satisfied with the whole process and the result. Um did we have a lot of room for creativity? Did we have a lot of room for individual leadership, um teamwork, and the means, meaning the technology that we used to produce our little guy there, we found any new ideas. Now, question is, how do we do this? Lenora Wires: Go back. Elaine Orr: I think we just discuss it. Sallie Teran: Discuss, Lenora Wires: Previous. Sallie Teran: sure. Alright. Who want who would like to go first? Lenora Wires: We think Catherine Gliem: We didn't Lenora Wires: we got Catherine Gliem: have Lenora Wires: stifled Catherine Gliem: a whiteboard. Lenora Wires: for cri creativity by the company itself, in restricting us only to using a T_V_ remote, Sallie Teran: Hmm. Lenora Wires: initially. Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Elaine Orr: Oh Sallie Teran: Hmm. Elaine Orr: that's true. Catherine Gliem: And no internet. Elaine Orr: Yeah. No, yeah, that's a good point. 'Cause I'd forgotten that that wasn't our decision, yeah. Sallie Teran: And how did you feel about the whole the whole process though? Elaine Orr: Oh, overall I mean I thought we did a good job like We got to choose basically we had control over minus it being just merely a T_V_ remote we got to choose what we wanted to do with it. Sallie Teran: Right, and we got say over what how technologically advanced it should be and also how fashionable, which I kind of Elaine Orr: And we're a fashion forward Sallie Teran: like Elaine Orr: technology Sallie Teran: we Elaine Orr: company. Sallie Teran: yep. You Lenora Wires: right. Sallie Teran: know it. Um what about um the teamwork aspect? How did you guys enjoy making the model, the prototype? Catherine Gliem: I think we did well. Lenora Wires: Yeah. Sallie Teran: I think ya' did. Did you work well together in there, and Catherine Gliem: Yep. Lenora Wires: Well, Sallie Teran: 'kay. Lenora Wires: no, there Elaine Orr: Minus Lenora Wires: was Elaine Orr: that one Lenora Wires: there Elaine Orr: fight. Lenora Wires: was scratching and fighting, Elaine Orr: Yeah. Lenora Wires: but Sallie Teran: Oh my Lenora Wires: no. Sallie Teran: God, Catherine Gliem: Gouges. Sallie Teran: and we've all been a pretty congenial team here, I think. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: We hadn't Elaine Orr: I Sallie Teran: had any ma Elaine Orr: mean Sallie Teran: fallings Elaine Orr: minus you Sallie Teran: out. Elaine Orr: guys being wha what is it, the survey, annoying or Lenora Wires: Irritating. Elaine Orr: what is it? Sallie Teran: Irritating. Elaine Orr: Irritating, Catherine Gliem: Irritating. Elaine Orr: yeah. Wow that's a it's definitely a strong one. Sallie Teran: Okay. Lenora Wires: The means, the whiteboard didn't work. Catherine Gliem: And Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: no internet. Sallie Teran: I have to knock that one down a couple Elaine Orr: Yeah, Sallie Teran: notches. Elaine Orr: and no internet. Lenora Wires: A and our friend here really feels Catherine Gliem: Misses. Lenora Wires: strongly about the internet. Catherine Gliem: I do. Elaine Orr: And the digital Catherine Gliem: There's so much available. Elaine Orr: the Catherine Gliem: Like Elaine Orr: digital Catherine Gliem: it's information Elaine Orr: pens Sallie Teran: Yeah, digital pens. Elaine Orr: were they Lenora Wires: I Elaine Orr: were pretty Lenora Wires: really Elaine Orr: cool. Lenora Wires: appreciated Sallie Teran: They were fine. Lenora Wires: those, yeah. Elaine Orr: Yeah they were fun, even though I'm not really sure what I could do with them, but they are awesome. Lenora Wires: The use of the laptops for receiving everything. It Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: Right, Lenora Wires: was Sallie Teran: laptops are Lenora Wires: wireless Sallie Teran: extremely handy, Lenora Wires: too, so. Sallie Teran: wireless. Elaine Orr: And these things Sallie Teran: And Elaine Orr: whoa. Sallie Teran: that we have a shared network where we can put all of the Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Lenora Wires: And let's not forget the sexy dual microphones everyone gets Elaine Orr: Yeah. Lenora Wires: to wear. Elaine Orr: And Big Brother. Sallie Teran: Big brother. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: 'Kay, have we found any new ideas through this process? Elaine Orr: Um we are really gonna sell this. Ta-da. Sallie Teran: For something that looks cool and also has what I want it to b do technologically. Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Sallie Teran: And that's your right brain taking over, w wanting the artistic, the fashionable, the hip, Elaine Orr: Mm-hmm. Sallie Teran: you know. If we all just went out and bought useful things, I don't think I mean that's not Catherine Gliem: Well, Sallie Teran: what Catherine Gliem: that's Sallie Teran: technology. Catherine Gliem: why I don't like uh Macs or Apples, just 'cause I look at it, and I know it's probably a very good computer, but I look at it, and I'm taken back to elementary school, 'cause they look the same. Sallie Teran: Mm. Catherine Gliem: They Elaine Orr: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: look like they did when I was in elementary school, Elaine Orr: Yeah, Catherine Gliem: and Elaine Orr: 'cause Catherine Gliem: that's Elaine Orr: they're Catherine Gliem: so old-fashioned Elaine Orr: pretty and Catherine Gliem: to Elaine Orr: just Catherine Gliem: Elaine Orr. Elaine Orr: like Lenora Wires: The Toronto Sallie Teran: Yeah. Lenora Wires: district school would only use his Macs with their kids. Catherine Gliem: Exactly, so I associate them with like really low-tech, Sallie Teran: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: really cheap, Sallie Teran: Just the Mac Catherine Gliem: bad Sallie Teran: font bothers Elaine Orr: Uh yeah. Sallie Teran: Elaine Orr Catherine Gliem: Yeah. Sallie Teran: even. But I do like iPods, go figure. Elaine Orr: Yeah, no, iPods They want all those words for Sallie Teran: Yeah. Elaine Orr: presentation, Lenora Wires: Well, Elaine Orr: even Lenora Wires: i Elaine Orr: the Lenora Wires: iPods Elaine Orr: plugs. Lenora Wires: are now quite trendy, and Sallie Teran: Mm-hmm. Lenora Wires: they come in different colours. Sallie Teran: Colours. Exactly. Lenora Wires: Yeah. Sallie Teran: I mean how many people went out and bough a Nokia phone, back when we were like in high school, just so they could get the changeable face Elaine Orr: Oh Sallie Teran: plates. Elaine Orr: yeah, everybody. Sallie Teran: Okay. Anyway, Lenora Wires: Not Elaine Orr. Sallie Teran: so Elaine Orr: Mine Sallie Teran: that Elaine Orr: is Catherine Gliem: But the Sallie Teran: is Lenora Wires: I Catherine Gliem: my Lenora Wires: didn't Sallie Teran: definitely Elaine Orr: amber. Lenora Wires: have a phone Sallie Teran: at work. Lenora Wires: 'til university. Catherine Gliem: but my Elaine Orr: Oh. Catherine Gliem: one issue is just like the whole it's for T_V_ only. I was like who's gonna buy a remote just for the T_V_ unless they've lost theirs. Elaine Orr: Look at Sallie Teran: Yeah. Elaine Orr: it. That is a piece Sallie Teran: Fashionable Catherine Gliem: You're kidding. Elaine Orr: of Sallie Teran: chic Elaine Orr: work. Sallie Teran: people Elaine Orr: Wow. Sallie Teran: will. Catherine Gliem: No, Elaine Orr: Marketing Director says yeah. Fashionable Catherine Gliem: no. Elaine Orr: people Catherine Gliem: No, marketing Elaine Orr: will buy Catherine Gliem: has Elaine Orr: it. Catherine Gliem: to actually create the desire for it. Elaine Orr: Oh, I will create Lenora Wires: That's okay. Elaine Orr: desire. Lenora Wires: We can create a commercial where they think that all their needs will be met. This Catherine Gliem: Ri Lenora Wires: will help them find Sallie Teran: Hmm. Lenora Wires: the one. Catherine Gliem: They'll be sexy with it. Lenora Wires: That's right. Elaine Orr: that's the fig-leaf. Catherine Gliem: Oh right. Elaine Orr: Mm. That'll sell. Sallie Teran: There you Catherine Gliem: Let Sallie Teran: go, Catherine Gliem: you Lenora Wires: And Sallie Teran: marketing. Catherine Gliem: loose. Lenora Wires: so the serpent says, use our remote. Elaine Orr: Yeah. Sallie Teran: Alright. Catherine Gliem: Yeah, Elaine Orr: Yeah. Catherine Gliem: no. Sallie Teran: Okay, we're gonna wrap this up now. Um the costs are within the budget, we evaluated the project, and now we're gonna complete the final questionnaire and meeting summary, and then we're going to have a big giant party, apparently, according to this, so. Lenora Wires: Whoohoo. Sallie Teran: Alright, thank you team, Lenora Wires: Margaritas Sallie Teran: you did a great Lenora Wires: for everyone. Sallie Teran: job, it was lovely working with you. Catherine Gliem: Good. Elaine Orr: You too. Lenora Wires: Yay. 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Catherine Gliem and Lenora Wires presented the prototype and displayed its gunmetal color, removable casing, buttons, logo, and ergonomic design. Elaine Orr gave an evaluation of the prototype using the group's initial criteria for the remote. The group decided that enough of their initial ideas and criteria for the remote were satisfied to be able to continue with the project. Sallie Teran analyzed the final production cost; the cost was lower than initially projected, at 11.2 Euros. The group decided to use one lithium battery instead of several triple A alkaline batteries. Sallie Teran then led a discussion on the project process. The group felt that they worked well together and were pleased with the prototype. They complained, though, that they felt constrained by the management's directives, that they had difficulties using the meeting-room equipment, and that they did not have internet access during the project. All participants were instructed to fill out a final questionnaire.

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Cleopatra Stephens: Here we go. Welcome everybody. Um, I'm Abigail Claflin. You can call Rita Sharp Abbie. 'S see. PowerPoint, that's not it. There we go. So this is our kick off meeting. Um and I guess we should all get acquainted. Let's shall we all introduce ourselves? Rita Sharp: Hi I'm Chiara, I'm the um Marketing Expert Um. would you like Rita Sharp to talk about my aims at the moment, or would you like Rita Sharp to just say my name and then we can talk about business Cleopatra Stephens: I think Rita Sharp: later? Cleopatra Stephens: we'll get around to that, yeah. Rita Sharp: We'll Cleopatra Stephens: So Rita Sharp: get Cleopatra Stephens: this Rita Sharp: round Cleopatra Stephens: is Rita Sharp: to Cleopatra Stephens: just Rita Sharp: that later. Cleopatra Stephens: introductions Rita Sharp: My Cleopatra Stephens: yeah. Rita Sharp: name is Chiara and I'm Rita Sharp. Cleopatra Stephens: Okay. I forgot to s say I'm Cleopatra Stephens but I figured you all knew that already, um so. Barbara Barham: I'm Stephanie I am Barbara Barham. Rosemary Callicutt: I'm Krista and I'm Rosemary Callicutt. Cleopatra Stephens: Okay. Um so f here's our agenda for today. Um we're gonna do some tool training, project plan and discuss then close. Um so. So our aim is to produce a remote control that is original, trendy and user friendly. And to do this, we have to um there's certain things we have to consider about functional aspects and conceptual design of the thing. So. We'll get to that. Oh there it is. Right. Functional design, conceptual design and detailed design. So throughout our next couple of meetings we'll we'll be covering these things. Um so we're gonna try out our white board. If we'll all draw our favourite animal, to sum up the characteristics of that animal. Barbara Barham: So Cleopatra Stephens: Okay. Barbara Barham: you want us to draw it and then talk about it? Or just draw it? Rita Sharp: I think both. Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Barbara Barham: Okay. Why don't Cleopatra Stephens: Both. Barbara Barham: we do both. Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: Who starts? Barbara Barham: Right. Rita Sharp: We ought to decide who starts and all that. No? Cleopatra Stephens: Any Rita Sharp: Uh-huh. Cleopatra Stephens: volunteers? Does anyone know what they wanna draw? Barbara Barham: Mm, I gotta think about it for a second like. Uh Does it have to be functional, trendy and user friendly? Cleopatra Stephens: I don't think so. Barbara Barham: Um. Okay, I'll draw. I'll draw one. Make sure my things here. Barbara Barham: Uh-oh. Barbara Barham: Right. Barbara Barham: Okay, my favourite animal is see. Barbara Barham: Oops. Cleopatra Stephens: A dolphin. Barbara Barham: Yeah, it's Cleopatra Stephens: 'S like playing Pictionary. Barbara Barham: Yeah, I guess it has a fin on top too, yeah. Barbara Barham: It's my dolphin. Cleopatra Stephens: So what characteristics do you like about your animal? Barbara Barham: I like its tail. Um, no, I think dolphins are really uh I dunno, they're smart and they they're cute and they like swimming and that's cool, like Cleopatra Stephens: They're graceful. Barbara Barham: they're graceful yeah, and they're so Cleopatra Stephens: Sleek. Barbara Barham: Yeah they're sleek and they look intelligent and I don't know, they're I guess it's the whole like binocular Cleopatra Stephens: I don't know how Barbara Barham: vision Cleopatra Stephens: intelligent Barbara Barham: thing. Cleopatra Stephens: that one looks. Barbara Barham: Yeah he he doesn't look that smart. He's a I dunno um they're I think it's cool the the um the interaction that or the th things that the reasons people seem to like you know you get ex you know people are sitting on the beach and p they're like oh look there's dolphins and it's kinda like but they're you know they jump around in the water and they're happy and they're mammals, but they Cleopatra Stephens: Yes. Does Barbara Barham: swim. Cleopatra Stephens: anybody else wanna draw their animal? Rosemary Callicutt: Suppose I can draw an animal, yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: Uh-oh there goes the ten. It's a cat. Rosemary Callicutt: Yeah. I don't know. They sleep all day, they're easy to draw. Cleopatra Stephens: Do you wanna Rita Sharp: Uh yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: anything? I dunno Rita Sharp: Well Cleopatra Stephens: if Rita Sharp: I Cleopatra Stephens: the Rita Sharp: had Rosemary Callicutt: I think the pen is Cleopatra Stephens: the Rosemary Callicutt: running out of Cleopatra Stephens: ah. Rita Sharp: spare one. So I'll use the spare one. Um but it's harder to draw Barbara Barham: And Rita Sharp: um. Barbara Barham: the pen's dying. Rita Sharp: Um. Cleopatra Stephens: A Rita Sharp: Uh. Cleopatra Stephens: horse. Barbara Barham: Horse. Rita Sharp: Um I don't really know Cleopatra Stephens: That's Rita Sharp: how Cleopatra Stephens: very Rita Sharp: the legs Cleopatra Stephens: good. Rita Sharp: go, but anyway I will do that. Um, and the main reason is they're pretty. I think they're very pretty and they go well with the environment, and I like the way they run and I used to do horse riding and they're just very sort of sturdy and nice animals. And I like the way um they feel, sort of under under the hand, I think that's pretty much it. Um Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: This cord's Cleopatra Stephens: Uh. Right. Actually I haven't thought of anything yet. Uh Cleopatra Stephens: It's a pig. So I'm thinking we should design a remote control that's water resistant, strong and furry. What do you think, yeah? Barbara Barham: And furry. Cleopatra Stephens: This is yeah, well like a cat, you know, Barbara Barham: Textile Cleopatra Stephens: soft yeah. Barbara Barham: tactile, tactile remote Cleopatra Stephens: Although Barbara Barham: control. Cleopatra Stephens: uh I'll just put there. Right. Barbara Barham: You're dragging a you have a tail. Cleopatra Stephens: Oh my gosh, this is disastrous. Sorry about that. Okay. So moving on. Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro. So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland, we're in some European country. Um, and we will hope to sell this internationally. Barbara Barham: Sorry can you just say that what's the what are our price goals again? Cleopatra Stephens: Um selling price is twenty five Euro. Barbara Barham: Okay. Cleopatra Stephens: Profit aim fifty million Euro. Rita Sharp: How many should we sell then? Um, a lot, Cleopatra Stephens: Anyone Rita Sharp: two Cleopatra Stephens: a mathematician? Rita Sharp: two two million, two mi no, more f four million. Rosemary Callicutt: Two million. Rita Sharp: Four million. And it well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve Rosemary Callicutt: Oh, Rita Sharp: fifty, Rosemary Callicutt: yeah. Rita Sharp: that'll do four million. Rita Sharp: It is a lot. Uh. Cleopatra Stephens: So f that's a fifty percent um uh. Um, I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show. Experience with remote control. So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient, practical, nice remote control. Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons Rita Sharp: Um, Cleopatra Stephens: it should have. Rita Sharp: I think one thing is that it should be easy to find Barbara Barham: I was Rita Sharp: bec Barbara Barham: thinking that too. Rita Sharp: yeah Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Barbara Barham: I Rita Sharp: bec Barbara Barham: think we should design something that has like a so you can like somehow like you I mean you always know where your T_V_ is, so just have a call button, I've always wanted that, Rita Sharp: Yeah, Barbara Barham: so Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: yeah Barbara Barham: like Rita Sharp: yeah Barbara Barham: you Rita Sharp: yeah Barbara Barham: can push Rita Sharp: yeah. Barbara Barham: a button Cleopatra Stephens: I mean Barbara Barham: on your Cleopatra Stephens: you have Barbara Barham: T_V_ Cleopatra Stephens: it for the portable Barbara Barham: Yeah, Cleopatra Stephens: phone, so Barbara Barham: yeah Cleopatra Stephens: why not Barbara Barham: yeah Cleopatra Stephens: yeah. Barbara Barham: yeah, so you should have a call button on your television to Rita Sharp: Yeah. Barbara Barham: be able to find your remote control. Rita Sharp: And even I think a little light. Um or even a maybe a vib a vibrating thing. I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: In which case Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound I don't know Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: if it's expensive maybe to Barbara Barham: I don't yeah I mean it Rita Sharp: Maybe call is enough. But yeah. Barbara Barham: but like I mean just I mean like your phone even just has so Rita Sharp: Yeah Barbara Barham: like Rita Sharp: yeah Barbara Barham: it Rita Sharp: yeah. Barbara Barham: can vibrate, it can light up and make Rita Sharp: Yeah. Barbara Barham: noise and I dunno. Cleopatra Stephens: What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: You know like a portable Barbara Barham: Yeah, Cleopatra Stephens: phone Barbara Barham: or if it Cleopatra Stephens: has Barbara Barham: had a Cleopatra Stephens: a base, Barbara Barham: yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: like just to have a home for it. Rita Sharp: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Barbara Barham: Yeah, I mean Cleopatra Stephens: 'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_, but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_, Barbara Barham: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: so Rosemary Callicutt: Well that's why it's always in the couch. Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Barbara Barham: Yeah, in in the couch. I dunno, it seems like though that that would be hard, 'cause Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Barbara Barham: you not you're not gonna be lazy Cleopatra Stephens: Maybe Barbara Barham: anyway Cleopatra Stephens: we should Barbara Barham: and Cleopatra Stephens: design couches that have the remote control Barbara Barham: Yeah Cleopatra Stephens: in Barbara Barham: so we Cleopatra Stephens: the side Barbara Barham: the project Cleopatra Stephens: arm. Barbara Barham: is now couches and Rita Sharp: But Barbara Barham: remote Rita Sharp: even Barbara Barham: controls. Rita Sharp: just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing, a pretty object attached to the wall. But that would really Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: make it more expensive. But it's only a plastic thing, r Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: really, Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: the thing on the wall. Something like that. And the other Cleopatra Stephens: Do you Rita Sharp: thing Cleopatra Stephens: think it Rita Sharp: is Cleopatra Stephens: needs to be bigger to not lose, or does that Barbara Barham: Bigger. Cleopatra Stephens: not factor Rita Sharp: Not Cleopatra Stephens: in? Rita Sharp: well it needs Cleopatra Stephens: Like Rita Sharp: to be sort of Cleopatra Stephens: Hand Barbara Barham: Hand-sized. Cleopatra Stephens: hand held Rita Sharp: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: size, yeah. Rita Sharp: I don't think you need a Cleopatra Stephens: Not not huge, but Rita Sharp: But definitely not well I don't know. Barbara Barham: It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it. Rita Sharp: No, it can't be, Rosemary Callicutt: No it really Barbara Barham: Or Rita Sharp: uh-uh. Barbara Barham: like Rosemary Callicutt: wouldn't Cleopatra Stephens: Huh. Rosemary Callicutt: be. Barbara Barham: or like a light thing. You know. I dunno. Rita Sharp: Like spaceship. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: Right. Um Barbara Barham: Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah. That would be really I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Cleopatra Stephens: Little Barbara Barham: Euros Cleopatra Stephens: homing Barbara Barham: a pop. Cleopatra Stephens: device. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Uh. Cleopatra Stephens: Um. Okay. So what do we think this remote control should Five minutes. Rita Sharp: Oh dear. Cleopatra Stephens: Till the meeting oh right. This is what we have left. Barbara Barham: I also Cleopatra Stephens: Um, Barbara Barham: think though that Cleopatra Stephens: oh Barbara Barham: it shouldn't Cleopatra Stephens: we just Barbara Barham: have too many buttons, 'cause I hate Rosemary Callicutt: Yeah, Barbara Barham: that Rosemary Callicutt: I Barbara Barham: when Rosemary Callicutt: agree. Barbara Barham: they have too many buttons and Rita Sharp: Yeah, Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rosemary Callicutt: button Rita Sharp: yeah yeah. Rosemary Callicutt: and the Barbara Barham: I Rosemary Callicutt: F_ Barbara Barham: mean I know Rosemary Callicutt: button, Barbara Barham: it has Rosemary Callicutt: they Barbara Barham: to Rosemary Callicutt: don't Barbara Barham: have Rosemary Callicutt: do Barbara Barham: enough Rosemary Callicutt: anything. Barbara Barham: functions but like, I don't know you, just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like, no, you never use half of them. Cleopatra Stephens: You Barbara Barham: So. Cleopatra Stephens: what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen, so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions. Barbara Barham: That would be cool. Cleopatra Stephens: Like the Rita Sharp: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: way a mobile phone does. Barbara Barham: Yeah. I mean it just seems like Cleopatra Stephens: So you could like Barbara Barham: yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: um like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels, you can the way you do it on your radio is that you uh what do you call Rita Sharp: Select. Cleopatra Stephens: it s y yeah but you Rita Sharp: Uh. Cleopatra Stephens: can programme, so you can programme like your favourite channels, so like if you had a s Rita Sharp: But, would you have the screen on the thing, or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen. Cleopatra Stephens: That's something we could decide. Barbara Barham: I Rita Sharp: Because Barbara Barham: guess Cleopatra Stephens: Mm. Barbara Barham: they would go together somehow? I dunno. Rita Sharp: Because, I don't know if it's I think it's e expensive, if you have if you use the telly screen, 'cause the telly's Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: already a screen, then you can pro sort of have a programming function, really easy sort of arrow up and down, on Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: the remote, and then use the telly as a screen. Cleopatra Stephens: Right. Rita Sharp: But um Barbara Barham: I'm thinking Rita Sharp: But Barbara Barham: kind Rita Sharp: yeah for Barbara Barham: of Rita Sharp: sure. Something like not it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do, Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: is that what you mean? Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: Right. Mm. Barbara Barham: Or like you h you see those you know people I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those these things that at their house you know their their entire house is so electronic, and they have like this one master control that and it's like a hand held like turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen, I don't know Rita Sharp: Yeah. Barbara Barham: if it must be it would probably must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno. Rita Sharp: But like Cleopatra Stephens: Mm. Rita Sharp: mobile phones have screens Barbara Barham: Yeah, Rita Sharp: and they're cheap. Barbara Barham: yeah. Yeah Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Barbara Barham: that's true. Cleopatra Stephens: I mean, we have to remember our budget is twelve point Rita Sharp: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: twelve fifty for to actually make the device. Barbara Barham: Mm. Cleopatra Stephens: Um Barbara Barham: Well, I guess Cleopatra Stephens: but it's Barbara Barham: we have Cleopatra Stephens: something Barbara Barham: to get to Cleopatra Stephens: to Barbara Barham: that Cleopatra Stephens: think Barbara Barham: later, Cleopatra Stephens: about, yeah. Barbara Barham: yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: I mean we'll have to see how much that would be. Rita Sharp: Or some it i we can find out probably on the Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: internet how much it's Um. Yeah, and the other thing you said that thing about robust and water um What was the word? Barbara Barham: Furry. Rita Sharp: Water resistant. No but it's I thought, ah, Cleopatra Stephens: was Rita Sharp: spot on. Cleopatra Stephens: just Rita Sharp: Good feel, tact tactile, Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah. Rita Sharp: good tactile feel, maybe something didn doesn't make your hands sweat lot. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Mm, mm. Rita Sharp: That's quite annoying. Cleopatra Stephens: Maybe um just like a simple thing to have a clip on it, like so you can clip it to your Barbara Barham: Yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: like that's another Rita Sharp: Yeah, clip. Ooh. Um. Cleopatra Stephens: Um. We should probably start wrapping up, um we've got some initial ideas that we can all look into. Um, and come up with some new ones for the next meeting, which will be in another thirty minutes. Um. So. Yeah. Rosemary Callicutt, what does that stand Rosemary Callicutt: Yeah Cleopatra Stephens: for, Rosemary Callicutt: I think Cleopatra Stephens: I_D_, Rosemary Callicutt: so. Cleopatra Stephens: yeah um is going to be looking more into the working design. So I guess you'd be looking at lots of the things we discussed about screen and um that sort of thing. The something, what is the U_I_? Rosemary Callicutt: User. Barbara Barham: That's Rita Sharp. Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah, what does it stand for again? Barbara Barham: Uh, User Interface Cleopatra Stephens: User Barbara Barham: design. Cleopatra Stephens: Interface Designer. So that's gonna be more technical. I guess that maybe the working design has also to do with like the physical feat like just Barbara Barham: So Cleopatra Stephens: the way Barbara Barham: technical Cleopatra Stephens: it looks Rosemary Callicutt: The Barbara Barham: function. Rosemary Callicutt: working Cleopatra Stephens: and Rosemary Callicutt: design Cleopatra Stephens: the way Rosemary Callicutt: is Cleopatra Stephens: it w Rosemary Callicutt: the structure. Cleopatra Stephens: Yeah, yeah. Barbara Barham: What is technical functions exactl I I don't really know what Cleopatra Stephens: Um, I guess you'd have to find out. Rita Sharp: It says Rosemary Callicutt: Um. Rita Sharp: on that email Rosemary Callicutt: It Rita Sharp: but Rosemary Callicutt: was Barbara Barham: It Rosemary Callicutt: in Barbara Barham: does Rita Sharp: it Rosemary Callicutt: the email. Barbara Barham: but it I just don't really Rosemary Callicutt: I wrote down what Rita Sharp: It Rosemary Callicutt: mine Rita Sharp: said Rosemary Callicutt: were. Barbara Barham: Yeah. Rita Sharp: um It said Barbara Barham: What effect should the thing ha should it have, okay. Alright. Rita Sharp: Yeah like Barbara Barham: And working design. Okay. Rita Sharp: Be a medium between you and the telly Barbara Barham: Yeah, Rita Sharp: I think, Barbara Barham: yeah. Cleopatra Stephens: Mm. Rita Sharp: that's uh Barbara Barham: Alright. And how it works, okay. Right. I'm I'm on task. Cleopatra Stephens: And the M_E_, what does that stand for? M Rosemary Callicutt: Marketing. Cleopatra Stephens: Marketing, Rita Sharp: Marketing. Cleopatra Stephens: right. Rita Sharp: Oh it's written Cleopatra Stephens: Um. Rita Sharp: here, but um. Cleopatra Stephens: So we'll be working on the user requirements, um Yeah. Rita Sharp: Okay. Cleopatra Stephens: So I guess that wraps it up. I'll see you all in thirty minutes. I just did.

The group introduced themselves to each other. Cleopatra Stephens discussed the goals for the project and gave an agenda for the project as a whole. The group practiced using the meeting-room equipment by drawing on the whiteboard. Cleopatra Stephens presented the projected profit and price point. The group discussed their experiences with remote controls. They complained that remotes got lost too easily, and suggested using a locator function. They also complained that remotes had too many buttons, and suggested incorporating a screen to simplify the interface but retain all of the functions. They also suggested making the remote water-resistant and including a clip. Cleopatra Stephens instructed Rosemary Callicutt to research the working design and components, Barbara Barham to research the technical functions, and Rita Sharp to research user requirements.

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Mabel Nielsen: Hi everyone, hope you had a nice lunch Um. Alright we're moving on to conceptual design. Karen Cleare: 'Scuse Cortney Norris. Cortney Norris: Bless you. Mabel Nielsen: Um, I'll just review what we did in our last meeting. Um, under marketing we targeted our audience, and Um, yeah. That was generally how helpful that was. Um, then we considered some design options with how it should look, um, we discussed an iPod-like button system which, uh, we haven't concluded but we're Right, um So if, you all have presentations to do, we can see what where you've come from our last time. Does everyone have Marlys Rogers: Hmm. Mabel Nielsen: presentations? Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yes. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Marlys Rogers: Yes. Mabel Nielsen: Would anybody like to go first? Marlys Rogers: Sure. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Marlys Rogers: So I've been looking at the components design. Um. Mostly by consulting remote control diagrams from the internet and also by incorporating design ideas from the last project meeting. Um, so we need some custom design parts, and other parts we'll just use standard. Um, I assume we'll be custom designing our case, probably a hard plastic or some other material case, to protect the remote and the locator. And we'll need to custom desi design a circuit board, because the board has to take the button input and send it to the output so you have to design that each time. But once we come up with a design we'll send it to the circuit people and they'll just print it out. Um, standard parts include the buttons and the wheels, um the iPod-style wheel. The infrared L_E_D_ is actually gonna be included in the circuit board that comes with it. Um, we need a radio sender and receiver, those are standard. And al we also need a beeper or buzzer or other sort of noise thing for locating the remote. So we have some material options. Um, we can use rubber, plastic, wood or titanium. Um, I'd recommend against titanium because it can only be used in the flat cases and it's really heavy. Um, and the rubber case requires rubber buttons, so if we definitely want plastic buttons, we shouldn't have a rubber case. Mabel Nielsen: And Marlys Rogers: And, Mabel Nielsen: why not wood? Marlys Rogers: hmm? Mabel Nielsen: And why not wood? Marlys Rogers: Uh, well we can use wood. I don't know why we'd want to. Um and also we should note that if we want an iPod-style wheel button, it's gonna require a m qu slightly more expensive chip. We can't use the minimal chip, we need the next higher grade, which is called regular. I don't think it's much more expensive, but it is more expensive. So that's what I've got on design. Mabel Nielsen: 'S good. Cortney Norris: Um, can I do next? 'Cause I have to say something about the Mabel Nielsen: Hmm. Cortney Norris: material Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: which is quite shocking. Cortney Norris: Ha. Mm. Cortney Norris: Right, um, I have been searching the current trends, um, both on the web and via fashion-watchers, and the findings are that the first thing to aim for is a fashion uh, fancy look and feel. Um. Next comes technologic technology and the innovations to do with that. And th last thing is the easy to use um factor Um. fancy look and feel goes far beyond the functionality of the thing, but I suppose that is included in in the ease of use. Um, our fashion-watchers in Milan and Paris have decided, well noticed, that f the fruit and vegetable theme is the is the current trend and and therefore um we need to go for that if we want, you know, wh whatever our motto is. Um. For fashion, Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Cortney Norris: we go for fashion. The fashion in electronics. So we want to put the fashion electronics, we need to go fruit and vegetables. And also go for a spongy feel, so the the question of our technology whate is Industrial Designer. As to the material should be limited to I don't know how spongy it can be, should discuss this together, I don't know how spongy can be achieved but apparently that's the way to go. Um. I I have been thinking about this fruit and vegetable thing and I prefer fruits to vegetables, but that's just a personal opinion. I think I think people like to have a fruit instead of a vegetables in their sitting room. Uh those are just suggestions and also we need to decide whether this should be printed, so that still has to do with the material discuss should we print the fruit stuff, or should the actual remote look like a fruit? Um, and finally again with the spongy. It has to be technologically innovative so maybe again our Industrial Designer should look into that or find come up with a solution that's better than mine. Um, yeah, to summarise these are the points that need to be um, touched in order to get a good decision, and hopefully our User Interface has more to say about the matter. Karen Cleare: Mm-hmm. Cortney Norris: Thank you for your attention. Karen Cleare: So. Mabel Nielsen: I think it's the next Karen Cleare: Oh, Mabel Nielsen: it's Karen Cleare: uh, Mabel Nielsen: the blue one, Karen Cleare: there Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Karen Cleare: we go. Uh. Okay. Um. Well so that fruit and vegetables thing huh. I actually wasn't aware of the new trends in electronics and Cortney Norris: Neither was I. Well Karen Cleare: and Cortney Norris: it's Karen Cleare: uh Cortney Norris: a trend in fashion, in clothing and um Mabel Nielsen: Yeah but Cortney Norris: fabrics. Mabel Nielsen: you're not gonna wear your remote control. Karen Cleare: So so okay, let Cortney Norris get this right. Okay, uh Okay, alright anyway. Um here we go. Conceptual User Interface. Trying we're gonna to about, um what kind of uh how people are actually going to be using this iPod-ish remote control, based on fruit vegetable design. And, um, basically, so, this is a touched ba a touch-based graphical interface system. Uh, so people are going to be looking at this little screen. Um, kind of I mean I assume, are we still on the screen idea? Mabel Nielsen: Oh we s hadn't discussed it last Karen Cleare: 'Cause if Mabel Nielsen: time. Karen Cleare: we're gonna have to ha if we have this it just seems like in order to have someone going around and using the um the wheel Mabel Nielsen: You need a screen Karen Cleare: you Mabel Nielsen: for Karen Cleare: it seems Mabel Nielsen: it? Karen Cleare: like you would need a screen. Marlys Rogers: You need a screen with music because you're looking for a specific song, like you know that band or whatever. Karen Cleare: But like if you Marlys Rogers: With Karen Cleare: think Marlys Rogers: T_V_ Karen Cleare: about Marlys Rogers: channels Karen Cleare: it Marlys Rogers: it's, you know, one two three. Karen Cleare: yeah Marlys Rogers: So Karen Cleare: but if so is it just okay. So, b you you're gonna have to switch to like D_V_D_ and like other things like that, aren't Mabel Nielsen: We're, Karen Cleare: you? Mabel Nielsen: um, we're Karen Cleare: Are Mabel Nielsen: actually Karen Cleare: we Mabel Nielsen: not having D_V_D_, that was Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: one of th I Karen Cleare: Okay. Mabel Nielsen: I was sorry, I I Karen Cleare: Alright. Mabel Nielsen: meant to update you on that. Karen Cleare: Okay. Mabel Nielsen: Um. Cortney Norris: But the screen can come up on the telly, the Karen Cleare: Okay. Cortney Norris: she said. That Karen Cleare: Okay. Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Cortney Norris: correct? Karen Cleare: So anyway if well we just we need to Okay so if we're not gonna have a screen I think I was thinking okay. So basically it's just gonna be a wheel then? And you're just gonna I mean I think you're gonna have to have some kind of a Cortney Norris: Graphical Karen Cleare: right. Cortney Norris: interface? Karen Cleare: Yeah Cortney Norris: Uh Karen Cleare: like you're Cortney Norris: on Karen Cleare: g Cortney Norris: the you can have it on the telly though. Karen Cleare: yeah Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: like you're gonna have to be able to switch to like a mode where you can okay we're not choosing that, I guess. But like choose channel control, like if you wa Because people aren't gonna be able to have like, um, you know, channels one two three four five six seven eight nine. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: So that people seems to be Mabel Nielsen: You've Yeah, Karen Cleare: well Mabel Nielsen: I know what you're saying, Karen Cleare: You know. Mabel Nielsen: you have Karen Cleare: But Mabel Nielsen: to Karen Cleare: you're gonna have to scroll to get channels. So um I guess that's wh why I was thinking you may need to have some kind of a screen because So that people can go arou go back and forth and choose if or or then again if you just I guess I c I can see like some kind of a thing where like you sort of have like the number come up on the T_V_ Cortney Norris: Yeah, Karen Cleare: like what channel you're on. Cortney Norris: yeah, Karen Cleare: You can Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Karen Cleare: just Cortney Norris: yeah. Karen Cleare: scroll and Cortney Norris: Yeah, Karen Cleare: you can just get Cortney Norris: yeah. Karen Cleare: to like five or like twelve or Mabel Nielsen: But Marlys Rogers: My flatmates Mabel Nielsen: but imagine Marlys Rogers: actually Mabel Nielsen: someone Marlys Rogers: had Mabel Nielsen: with Marlys Rogers: one with Mabel Nielsen: s Marlys Rogers: a wheel, and it it did show up Karen Cleare: I Marlys Rogers: on the T_V_. Karen Cleare: oh yeah? Mabel Nielsen: But i what if you have satellite and you have like two hundred channels. Then to Karen Cleare: 'Cause Mabel Nielsen: get to channel Karen Cleare: you'll Mabel Nielsen: one Karen Cleare: have Mabel Nielsen: eighty Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: to Mabel Nielsen: nine Karen Cleare: like Mabel Nielsen: you have to Marlys Rogers: They have to Karen Cleare: but Marlys Rogers: r Karen Cleare: you can Marlys Rogers: wheel Karen Cleare: quickly Marlys Rogers: really fast. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: s you can Marlys Rogers: But I think the wheel goes through like a hundred Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Yeah, Marlys Rogers: channels, Cortney Norris: yeah, yeah. Marlys Rogers: at least on theirs. Karen Cleare: Yeah if you do, it w so it would have to be you I mean so you basically just kinda need to figure out like what kind of, you know, range we need to have on the wheel, and um So you're either you're you know, th you're either doing this motion to like control the channels or like once once you stop that, you know, you can like tap for, um, Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: different uh, whatchamacallits, different um, you know, functions like volume or, like you can tap just to get to different channels. Like if you just wanted to go to like from five to six you could tap or someth Mabel Nielsen: Right. Karen Cleare: And then there's also the concern about you know um how do you get to the menu if you wanna change the brightness of your television, or if you want to um you know switch around, I don't know, like, these different modes like turn on the timer or like Mabel Nielsen: Yeah Karen Cleare: something something like that, like Mabel Nielsen: I mean with that many options, you'd uh I'd think that the screen would be better, because Karen Cleare: I would think Mabel Nielsen: you Karen Cleare: so Mabel Nielsen: could have Karen Cleare: too, Mabel Nielsen: that Karen Cleare: like Mabel Nielsen: menu option, sort of Karen Cleare: So I mean and it seems it w it does seem a little silly to have this screen if you hardly are ever using it, you know, because Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: but then again it would it does make kind of if the screen's sort of just like an option that, like, is just there and you're not really using it, that's kind of Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: It's Karen Cleare: m Marlys Rogers: more expensive Karen Cleare: yeah. Marlys Rogers: according to the design Mabel Nielsen: Uh. Marlys Rogers: people. Karen Cleare: Yeah, that's the only Marlys Rogers: You have Karen Cleare: thing Marlys Rogers: to Karen Cleare: though. Marlys Rogers: get a an advanced chip if you wanna have a screen in, which is more expensive than the regular chip, which is more expensive than the Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: minimal. Karen Cleare: So then basically Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Karen Cleare: it has to have some way to get to get to a mode on the television where you're doing, um You can get to you know, you can Like maybe it'll be that central button Cortney Norris: Yeah, Karen Cleare: that, Cortney Norris: yeah, Karen Cleare: like, Cortney Norris: yeah. Marlys Rogers: Mm-hmm. Karen Cleare: then Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Karen Cleare: you hit that and then you can it brings up like the menu on the T_V_ Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: and you can just Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: scroll around, Mabel Nielsen: So Karen Cleare: like, Mabel Nielsen: the T_V_ Karen Cleare: to do Mabel Nielsen: is Karen Cleare: the timer, Mabel Nielsen: the screen, Karen Cleare: to do the Mabel Nielsen: that Karen Cleare: yeah, Mabel Nielsen: yeah Karen Cleare: yeah. Mabel Nielsen: So it would have all these different options Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: of changing Karen Cleare: But the remote Mabel Nielsen: to Karen Cleare: itself isn't really Cortney Norris: Look Karen Cleare: cluttered Cortney Norris: it even Karen Cleare: up. Cortney Norris: has settings. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Karen Cleare: Hmm? Cortney Norris: On the Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: you can just Karen Cleare: Yeah, Cortney Norris: take theirs Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: well we Cortney Norris: and Karen Cleare: don't want the Cortney Norris: just Karen Cleare: screen I guess, but um 'cause that just it does seem like, it that would be, like, incredibly expensive, but I dunno, and then so, it just im really all you need is, like, this little wheel then, and you can control everything. So Mabel Nielsen: Um, right. What if I mean, if you're thinking of the design of it now, like the a you know, physical attributes, Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: um, and you just have this, it's like just a long silver thing, or whatever we're thinking. I mean are you you gonna have any buttons on that besides power and this thing? Or Karen Cleare: It doesn't seem that you would need anything besides pow I mean and the power button could even be like hold down the menu button for like Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: longer than one second and it turns on the T_V_. Mabel Nielsen: So can we imagine that this would be smaller than the remote controls that you showed us before. I Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: mean Karen Cleare: Yeah definitely. Like, Mabel Nielsen: okay. Karen Cleare: I think we're looking at something that could be, like like even maybe like a cir I'm f I'm seeing almost like a circular sort of like handheld like thing. Cortney Norris: Yeah Karen Cleare: I mean Cortney Norris: but Karen Cleare: it Cortney Norris: should Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: be Karen Cleare: it Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Cortney Norris: comfortable. Karen Cleare: needs to be easy Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: to somehow it needs to be easy to like manipulate and use your Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: I mean how do how do I'm not really Like when I use an iPod, I end up just kind of using my index finger to like control it. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, I've Karen Cleare: So Mabel Nielsen: seen some people just going like that Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: with their Cortney Norris: Yeah Mabel Nielsen: thumb, Karen Cleare: Or your thumb Cortney Norris: I use Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Karen Cleare: or something. Cortney Norris: it like that. Marlys Rogers: W Karen Cleare: So Marlys Rogers: when we had the wheely remote control, we it was on the top I think, if you held it like that. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah, Mabel Nielsen: But, Karen Cleare: so Mabel Nielsen: were there buttons on there as well? Marlys Rogers: Yeah well it had the wheely thing and then it had those eighteen different buttons Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Marlys Rogers: that I don't know what they do. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Mm Marlys Rogers: So Karen Cleare: yeah. Marlys Rogers: we just used the top part. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah, Cortney Norris: Uh. Karen Cleare: so but I mean I think it could be pretty small. Like, I d I mean, you you want it to be large enough that you can Mabel Nielsen: What if, um, you had like a b a cover that went over buttons that you don't use very much? Like you so you could slide it up if you needed to like change the contrast or something like that? So the options are there but they're not in interfering with the design and the practicality of it. Karen Cleare: But can't you just Mabel Nielsen: Do do Karen Cleare: get Mabel Nielsen: you know what I'm talking Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: about though? Like, uh, yeah just Marlys Rogers: Yeah Mabel Nielsen: something Marlys Rogers: like Karen Cleare: K Marlys Rogers: maybe something on the side Cortney Norris: Well you Marlys Rogers: where Cortney Norris: can Marlys Rogers: you Cortney Norris: have it on Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, Cortney Norris: the settings, Marlys Rogers: slip a Mabel Nielsen: that Marlys Rogers: panel Mabel Nielsen: you can flip Marlys Rogers: down Cortney Norris: no? Marlys Rogers: and it's Mabel Nielsen: over, Marlys Rogers: got a Mabel Nielsen: yeah, Marlys Rogers: whole Karen Cleare: Yeah, Marlys Rogers: bunch of Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Karen Cleare: But, I mean, do you need that? If if you can get to, you know if so long as you're able to bring up the menu on the T_V_ screen. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah I mean I guess Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: that's the Karen Cleare: That Mabel Nielsen: thing Karen Cleare: keeps Mabel Nielsen: is Karen Cleare: it Mabel Nielsen: is if w I Karen Cleare: really Mabel Nielsen: if we can do this, that'd probably Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: be Karen Cleare: Uh you wouldn't I don't I just don't think you would even need it. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, yeah. Karen Cleare: So Mabel Nielsen: So I Karen Cleare: Mean Mabel Nielsen: guess we have to look into the, um, like, the programming, how this how they actually programme these things, Marlys Rogers: Oh Mabel Nielsen: and if Marlys Rogers: how they Mabel Nielsen: that's Marlys Rogers: make the menu show up on Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Marlys Rogers: the T_V_? Karen Cleare: I mean Marlys Rogers: I Karen Cleare: you can Marlys Rogers: don't Karen Cleare: do Mabel Nielsen: I Marlys Rogers: know. Karen Cleare: it, Mabel Nielsen: mean Cortney Norris: They already Mabel Nielsen: it would Cortney Norris: do Mabel Nielsen: y Cortney Norris: it. Mabel Nielsen: would Karen Cleare: you it's Marlys Rogers: I Karen Cleare: it Marlys Rogers: believe Karen Cleare: doesn't Mabel Nielsen: that Marlys Rogers: it's Karen Cleare: seem Mabel Nielsen: would Marlys Rogers: ins Karen Cleare: that Mabel Nielsen: be Karen Cleare: hard. Marlys Rogers: it's gotta be inside the T_V_, not inside the remote. Karen Cleare: I mean I've never bought Marlys Rogers: I'm Karen Cleare: a Marlys Rogers: not Karen Cleare: remote. Marlys Rogers: sure. Karen Cleare: It sounds like this remote's going to be purchased separately from the television, which Marlys Rogers: Well Karen Cleare: is a little Marlys Rogers: they usually are. Well Karen Cleare: My I've never bought just a remote, like, so Cortney Norris: No. Karen Cleare: I don't I don't really Mabel Nielsen: Huh. Karen Cleare: know. But um Marlys Rogers: I guess that's right. It always comes with the T_V_. Karen Cleare: So, um but I mean it's I've never had a hard time with like my remotes, like bringing up the menu screen if you need to like change the date or whatever, you know. And I don't think that should uh that should be too hard. Marlys Rogers: Yeah, it most of the ones we've had have had the menu button, 'cause it's not like you need to have a button access to like change the contrast or something. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: 'Cause it just doesn't come up every day or something. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Well so So, do we need I dunno. Well I guess we have to you know think about But I mean you just basically need the output signal Marlys Rogers: Mm-hmm. Karen Cleare: you know to Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: be able to bring it up. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Karen Cleare: That's what it does anyway. Cortney Norris: But also if you have it on the screen you can actually write everything out, because the problem with buttons is you like, they have these sort of abbreviations and Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Cortney Norris: codes Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, Cortney Norris: that you're supposed Mabel Nielsen: you Cortney Norris: to understand, Mabel Nielsen: don't know they mean, Cortney Norris: and Mabel Nielsen: yeah, Cortney Norris: I never Mabel Nielsen: it's Cortney Norris: get Mabel Nielsen: like Cortney Norris: it. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Never Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Cortney Norris: ever. So Karen Cleare: So, but oh, you mean if we have this screen like the iPod screen? Cortney Norris: Well on the telly. Marlys Rogers: Or on the T_V_ Karen Cleare: On the Marlys Rogers: too. Karen Cleare: telly, okay, yeah. So yeah I think, I mean, I think I think the touch-based graphical interface is a really uh cool idea because you know it is so obnoxious to like have to push those like okay now I hit this you know, you have your little guide out and you're like, hit this button twice, like Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Karen Cleare: to Cortney Norris: Mm. Mabel Nielsen: And it is technologically Karen Cleare: activate the date. Mabel Nielsen: innovative in a way, so Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: that Karen Cleare: I guess. Mabel Nielsen: fits with the Karen Cleare: And it is trendy, Mabel Nielsen: B Karen Cleare: the iPods are Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: really hot right now, Cortney Norris: Did you Karen Cleare: so Cortney Norris: did you get that pc picture on did they provide you with that picture Karen Cleare: Um, Cortney Norris: on the web? Karen Cleare: yeah, by web research, yeah, so Cortney Norris: That's quite interesting. What are we going to do about this vegetable thing that I'm dreading? Mabel Nielsen: Oh Karen Cleare: Oh. Mabel Nielsen: god. Marlys Rogers: Oh, I was gonna say. You said uh people want spongy. Um, Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: one of your one of the material options is a sort of rubber that's in like those stress ball things. So, Karen Cleare: Oh, okay, that Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: would Mabel Nielsen: Ah. Karen Cleare: be cool. Marlys Rogers: that would be spongy. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Mm. Cortney Norris: Just nice feel, but I hate spongy. Karen Cleare: Yeah, c Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: that's e that would be kind of oh, you know, usually like the touch pad things are kind of a hard plastic typ mouse type, Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: you know, thing. But what if Mabel Nielsen: I Karen Cleare: we Mabel Nielsen: mean Karen Cleare: ha Mabel Nielsen: definitely the area Karen Cleare: what if Mabel Nielsen: round Karen Cleare: we had like Mabel Nielsen: it. Karen Cleare: a spongy sort of like stress balley kinda so you're like Marlys Rogers: Yeah I think it could work. Karen Cleare: Or what Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: if we integrated the the uh the f what if the whole thing about the fruit and vegetables we somehow made it tactilely fash you know, we c tapped into that, so like it feels like Cortney Norris: Well Karen Cleare: a vegetable. Cortney Norris: it could be Mabel Nielsen: An Cortney Norris: like Mabel Nielsen: orange. Marlys Rogers: Don't think Cortney Norris: mobiles Marlys Rogers: I'd want it to feel Cortney Norris: that just Marlys Rogers: like a banana. Cortney Norris: you just put a cover. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: If it's a small thing, you c instead of creating an object for it that looks like a banana, which frankly I'm not particularly fond of, um you could just have covers and then your mobile f it's like a mobile phone thing. You know you Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: had Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: there was a time when they had all these different covers Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: You Cortney Norris: for Marlys Rogers: could Cortney Norris: mobiles. Marlys Rogers: do like the computers where they have like the grapefruit, apple machine and they have like the blueberry, Cortney Norris: Yeah, Marlys Rogers: like all Cortney Norris: yeah, Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: the colours Cortney Norris: yeah. Marlys Rogers: are named after fruits. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: You could name it after fruits and vegetables, Cortney Norris: And Karen Cleare: or Cortney Norris: it could the colour can fit your sitting room, so if you have red sitting room you can have strawberry, and then if you have a green one you can have well I don't know. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Um. Mabel Nielsen: So Karen Cleare: So Mabel Nielsen: what Karen Cleare: I think Mabel Nielsen: if what Karen Cleare: yeah, colours. Mabel Nielsen: this is I'm just forming this idea in my head of how this thing is looking. If you have like that stress ball material kind of as what you're actually holding in your hand, so like what you're feeling is comfortable, and then there's more of a hard plastic thing Cortney Norris: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: where that thing is. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: And on that hard plastic thing you can change either the colour or the fruit or vegetable that's on there. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Is that kind of I 'cause I I'm thinking of silver because those are our company colours. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Um Karen Cleare: Unfortunately they don't have silver fruits and vegetables. I do I dunno. Um Mabel Nielsen: I mean how are you how are you all envisioning by what we've just the feedback we've just got about the Cortney Norris: Maybe a ball. Mabel Nielsen: A ball? Cortney Norris: Know, a squashy ball. A relaxing squashy ball. Karen Cleare: That's in the shape of a fruit, like a Cortney Norris: That you can p well I see you're thinking, it's weird, you're thinking the opposite of Cortney Norris 'cause you're thinking you change the the hard bit Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: and I'm thinking how do you change the hard would you put a um sticker sort of? Because I was thinking if you have a cover for the squashy bit, like a Mabel Nielsen: This is just Okay. Cortney Norris: Oh, Mabel Nielsen: Say Cortney Norris: okay, Mabel Nielsen: that's the s say that's Cortney Norris: yeah. Mabel Nielsen: the squashy bit. Squashy. Cortney Norris: Yeah I was thinking of getting a cover for Mabel Nielsen: That see I was thinking Cortney Norris: Which is Mabel Nielsen: this Cortney Norris: cheaper. Mabel Nielsen: s sorry Cortney Norris: Well I don't know if it's cheaper Mabel Nielsen: I was Marlys Rogers: Oh. Mabel Nielsen: thinking Cortney Norris: actually. Marlys Rogers: Mm. Mabel Nielsen: this bit here would be the cover and like that's your actual Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: thing. And like this Karen Cleare: Oh I like Mabel Nielsen: you Karen Cleare: that Mabel Nielsen: could have Karen Cleare: shape. Mabel Nielsen: like you could have like cherries and Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: things around there. Um Marlys Rogers: I was thinking Mabel Nielsen: but Marlys Rogers: sort of a single ball shape. Mabel Nielsen: I Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: was thinking if Marlys Rogers: So Mabel Nielsen: it Marlys Rogers: you're Mabel Nielsen: was Marlys Rogers: holding Mabel Nielsen: like this Marlys Rogers: a Mabel Nielsen: 'cause Marlys Rogers: squishy Mabel Nielsen: the way Marlys Rogers: ball Mabel Nielsen: you were Marlys Rogers: and Mabel Nielsen: describing Marlys Rogers: then it has a Mabel Nielsen: the the iPod and the thi the roll thingy Karen Cleare: It's like it Marlys Rogers: Mm-hmm. Karen Cleare: has to be s yeah. Mabel Nielsen: It's almost like your thumb is farther up, Marlys Rogers: Yeah I guess so. Mabel Nielsen: it lower Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: then Cortney Norris: Yeah. So it wouldn't be very big in either like how big? This big, and then you just do that, Karen Cleare: What Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, Karen Cleare: if, yeah, Mabel Nielsen: I Cortney Norris: I Mabel Nielsen: know Cortney Norris: suppose. Mabel Nielsen: what Karen Cleare: what Mabel Nielsen: you Karen Cleare: if Mabel Nielsen: meant, Karen Cleare: the squishy, Mabel Nielsen: yeah. Karen Cleare: oh so so you're saying the squishy part's like detachable, and you can so so maybe one you know you can have like the broccoli squishy thing, and then you could have like the banana squishy thing and you could get you could have your choice, you know? Cortney Norris: Well just a li I can't des like condom thingy, like a a cover. But well the question is, which one's easiest to change can just Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: contact our relevant department for that, and Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: just see what the cost is for covering that or covering Karen Cleare: Yeah, Cortney Norris: that, Karen Cleare: yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Cortney Norris: and for now we can do two prototypes maybe and then Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: hi try and ask users Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Cortney Norris: what the best is, and Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: No. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Karen Cleare: Oh. Cortney Norris: Um. That's nicer. I think it's Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: nicer to have a drawing 'cause it's neater. Mabel Nielsen: Hmm. Cortney Norris: Um. Mabel Nielsen: Well that's not very neat, but Karen Cleare: Yeah. I mean I think uh and I think the handhe I think the handheld part is definitely So you could make that into the fruit and vegetable part. Cortney Norris: If it's a bit like those juggling balls, you can change shape according to your to the way you hold Marlys Rogers: Yeah Cortney Norris: it. Mabel Nielsen: Mm-hmm. Cortney Norris: If Marlys Rogers: you could Cortney Norris: it's Marlys Rogers: squish Cortney Norris: got sand Marlys Rogers: it. Cortney Norris: in it maybe, or something, Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: you it it just moulds to your hand. Karen Cleare: Yeah. So where are the fruit and vegetables now? Cortney Norris: We Karen Cleare: Fruits Cortney Norris: we don't Karen Cleare: and veg. Marlys Rogers: I Cortney Norris: know. Marlys Rogers: guess they would be either in the colour of that plastic Karen Cleare: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: face on Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Marlys Rogers: the front, or in the colour of the squishy thing underneath. Cortney Norris: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: And the rest is the company the company colour's silver? Mabel Nielsen: It was, yeah, silver and yellow. It l it looks like I don't Karen Cleare: We could Cortney Norris: Okay. Karen Cleare: promote the banana one. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: Like mm. Mabel Nielsen: I mean that's another question, where are we gonna we we should have the logo somewhere on it. Karen Cleare: Mm. Cortney Norris: Mm-hmm. Should also fit the batteries, which we haven't Karen Cleare: Oh Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Karen Cleare: yeah. Marlys Rogers: I think the batteries would have to go right under the plastic Mabel Nielsen: Yeah, Marlys Rogers: case. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: th and that would Cortney Norris: Okay. Marlys Rogers: Especially if Mabel Nielsen: that Marlys Rogers: you're switching out the squishy part. Then you need to have the other part just be sort of a single unit that you can snap off. Cortney Norris: Mm-hmm. Mabel Nielsen: Mm-hmm. Karen Cleare: Yeah, I think, um it'd be interesting to have the b the squishy bit. The part that you, yeah, can change into the different, you know, trendy vegetables and fruits. But uh Marlys Rogers: Well I dunno. Karen Cleare: it Marlys Rogers: You'd spend so much time like squishing it to your own personal hand. Then you'd get a new one and you'd have to do it all over again. Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: No but it does it automatically. Does it automatically? Karen Cleare: Yeah. Cortney Norris: I don't know. Mabel Nielsen: I don't know what the rest of my notes mean because they were made for Cortney Norris. Cortney Norris: Okay. Mabel Nielsen: But if someone components concept. Question mark. Energy. Question Marlys Rogers: That was Cortney Norris. Mabel Nielsen: mark. Was that you? Marlys Rogers: Yes. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Oh right right. Yeah. Um, so what d but what do we know about energy? I mean we're gonna use batteries right? And Marlys Rogers: which is something I don't know what it is. Something Cortney Norris: Oh, Marlys Rogers: to Cortney Norris: a dynamo Marlys Rogers: do with torches. Cortney Norris: is ah, it's a bicycle. It's a bicycle mechanism. It's the en it's like if if something moves, Marlys Rogers: Oh Cortney Norris: when Marlys Rogers: okay. Cortney Norris: it moves, Marlys Rogers: Yeah, Cortney Norris: it Marlys Rogers: the other Cortney Norris: stores Marlys Rogers: one was Cortney Norris: energy. Marlys Rogers: the other one was a kinetic thing where you'd basically have to wind it yourself. So Cortney Norris: It's quite sweet. Marlys Rogers: I sort of picked battery. We could have talked about doing a wind-up or a dynamo or a solar power. Um but I think solar power's not available with the rubber case anyways. Mabel Nielsen: I think batteries Marlys Rogers: It Mabel Nielsen: sound good. What does Marlys Rogers: it Cortney Norris: No. Mabel Nielsen: everyone Marlys Rogers: seems Mabel Nielsen: else Marlys Rogers: a little Mabel Nielsen: think? Marlys Rogers: weird for Karen Cleare: The dynamo Marlys Rogers: a living room Karen Cleare: would Marlys Rogers: anyways. Karen Cleare: be interesting. Cortney Norris: But dynamo the the fact with dynamo is, the moment you move it, it c it creates energy on its own. Karen Cleare: Oh. Mabel Nielsen: What about Kryptonite? Cortney Norris: Which is quite cool. So if you throw it, it's gonna store loads of energy, and you don't need to buy a battery 'cause they're quite f I find them annoying. But we need to find cost. Mabel Nielsen: Yeah. Cortney Norris: Don't know the cost. Marlys Rogers: Didn't have Cortney Norris: Does Marlys Rogers: enough Cortney Norris: anyone Marlys Rogers: data Cortney Norris: have Marlys Rogers: to actually Cortney Norris: costs on the on the Marlys Rogers: All Cortney Norris: web? Marlys Rogers: it said was it gave sort of relative, some chips are more expensive than others, sort of things. It didn't give Cortney Norris any actual Cortney Norris: Okay. Marlys Rogers: cost. Cortney Norris: Right. Karen Cleare: Hmm. Cortney Norris: Mm. Marlys Rogers: Most of the stuff is pretty cheap though bought in bulk. So I don't think it's that much of a problem. Like the chip is probably the most expensive part. Mabel Nielsen: What does chip on print mean? Marlys Rogers: Um, for things like remote controls, um, they stamp out a chip, Mabel Nielsen: Uh-huh. Marlys Rogers: calculators too I think. Um, so you can mass produce 'em pretty cheap. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. Marlys Rogers: But it's not like a computer, you can't like reprogramme your remo remote controls, it's like Mabel Nielsen: Right. Marlys Rogers: stamped onto the chip. Mabel Nielsen: So, chip on print is just means like that they're mass-produced. Marlys Rogers: Yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Okay. And case? Uh I guess Marlys Rogers: Case Mabel Nielsen: that's Marlys Rogers: is Mabel Nielsen: what Marlys Rogers: what Mabel Nielsen: we've Marlys Rogers: we Mabel Nielsen: been Marlys Rogers: were Mabel Nielsen: talking Marlys Rogers: discussing Mabel Nielsen: about, yeah. Marlys Rogers: yeah. Mabel Nielsen: Casing. Yeah. thinking of like syntactic case and thi um let's see. Is there anything else we need to Karen Cleare: Hmm. Mabel Nielsen: talk about? Oh when we move on, you two are going to be playing with play-dough. Um, and working on the look and feel of the design and user interface design. And you're gonna be doing protu product evaluation. So you'll get mm m more instructions from your personal coach. Cortney Norris: Oh, thank Mabel Nielsen: Mm. Karen Cleare: Cool. Cortney Norris: you. Mabel Nielsen: See you soon. Does it matter that I end early? Cortney Norris: I it's strange because Mabel Nielsen: How how early is it? I didn't get a pop-up thing that said

Mabel Nielsen reviewed the minutes from the previous meeting. Marlys Rogers gave her presentation on components and discussed which would have to be custom-made and which were standard. She also discussed the various materials and chips available. Cortney Norris presented current trends in the market and in fashion. She discussed the current fruits and vegetables trend and the trend toward softer, spongier materials. Karen Cleare discussed the look of the remote with the group. They discussed including a touch-based graphical user interface but noted that it was unnecessary and costly. They discussed using the menu function on the television instead. The group discussed how the menu function would be programmed. The group then talked about the casing of the device, and decided that there would be a changeable outer casing. They discussed including fruit colors in addition to the company colors. Some part of the casing will be made of a spongy material. The group also discussed energy source options and chips. Mabel Nielsen instructed Karen Cleare and Marlys Rogers to construct the prototype and Cortney Norris to work on the prototype evaluation.

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Beth Ryan: Right w welcome to the the first meeting of uh Real Reaction's uh um development meetings for our our new television remote control. Uh this follows our very successful entry into the the consumer market over the last year or so um which we want to to build on, taking advantage of the uh the the latest developments in in technology and the uh the latest uh uh feelings in in consumer design and and demand and uh we want to make this the the very best product th that's possible for everybody, uh one that everybody wants, uh at a good price for the consumer and at a good price for the company. Uh and to that end we need all to work together uh to do that. Um and uh b in no particular order because ev everybody is uh just April Payton: Mm. Beth Ryan: as vital to this project um I'll just go round th the table, Andrew, marketing, um m Kendra with the uh um designing the the the User Interface uh uh and Kate with the the industrial design. Um. What's uh the the th th project is is here to do, is is to to get this this project up and moving, ev everybody is is free to uh say wh whatever they want, uh everybody has a contribution to make and uh everybody feel free to interrupt April Payton at any time to to say what you want to say. Um in in terms of the immediate meeting the uh um everybody knows everybody else, everybody's worked for the the company for a while, if if an anybody feels that they need to say more about themselves please do, if if if anybody wants to b briefly give their their background so that everybody's quite clear what everybody uh uh everybody's experience is please do so. Uh in fact I'd I'd I'd welcome anybody to uh say something briefly about themselves, in fact we will do that by by going round the table quickly and and saying what what contribution you you're looking to make. So we'll start with Andrew. April Payton: Oh my name's Andrew I'm a I'm Market Research person for this uh for this meeting and uh project for this new remote control and uh yeah I'll be uh presenting information statistics on what people want to want to uh get from this new design, what people want to like and from a fashion point of view and the practicality point of view. Beth Ryan: Right Kendra. Sharon Fisher: I'm Kendra and I'm Us User Interface and um I haven't had a whole lot of experience in this kind of thing before but I'm m so I'll be working on the design. Beth Ryan: Right at least means you haven't got any preconceived ideas so. Sharon Fisher: Right. Yep, I'm just open to being creative. Beth Ryan: Yep, good. Jacqualine Saborido: Uh I'm Katie, I'm Jacqualine Saborido I'll just be I guess presenting about the the inter workings of our little remote control and uh yeah. Beth Ryan: Okay, very very quickly, um this I don't want to make this meeting too structured because the the whole idea is that it's a um you know a think tank. Everybody says what they what they want to say, uh and we don't want to be constrained by uh kind of convention or uh uh slides on screens or or anything else um but um briefly um th th this is what we want to do. The the remote control needs to be original, there has to be something about it that uh other remote controls don't have so that as soon as people see it they think um yes that's different, uh I want one, um and that goes along with being trendy, uh uh you know the I want it uh scenario. User-friendly as as we all know, remote controls can be uh uh very user-unfriendly so we want to make ours one that people can pick up and think oh yes that's it's obvious how that works, uh and they also want to look at the price and think oh yeah that's something that I may not need another remote control but uh it's such a nice one I'm gonna have one. And last but not least, or indeed first of all, it it must make the company money, and we make the company money by producing what the consumer wants. The uh the further work to be done is i the um the functional design, uh what it uh what it must actually do, the uh conceptual design, uh how we actually present that to the consumer and th the the detailed design i is uh how we get that into production. Uh now th the main design tool that we have available to us at the moment is is the white board and uh uh let us very quickly do what i what it says in the in the in the prompt slide here, um In fact I suggest to avoid everybody untangling themselves from the uh the the wires, that we don't do that, um So I I everybody knows what whiteboard is so we'll um uh we'll do a virtual drawing on the on on the whiteboard of of your your own uh uh favourite animal, but le let's go round the table, your favourite animal. April Payton: Um, badger. Beth Ryan: Mm and why? April Payton: Uh it's it's got nice contrast with Beth Ryan: Uh-huh. April Payton: black and white and uh and Beth Ryan: Oh April Payton: they're, Beth Ryan: right uh my April Payton: the Beth Ryan: my wife says my beard looks like a badger's arse 'cause of the the white streaks in it. Kendra. Sharon Fisher: Um probably a duck I just I li I like the way they look and they're just nice animals and I like how they can fly or swim or walk around Beth Ryan: Uh-huh. Sharon Fisher: or whatever. Beth Ryan: Right, okay. Jacqualine Saborido: Uh 's horses, no particular reason why. Beth Ryan: Uh-huh, fair enough yeah. I'm not sure that I've got any favourite animal to be quite honest, I think homo sapien because of their their uh overall ability to uh uh April Payton: Make mobile phones and T_V_ remotes Beth Ryan: Sorry? April Payton: to make T_V_ remotes. Beth Ryan: Indeed absolutely yes, tha that's um Okay and uh w we need to keep in mind here that the uh we want to sell this for for twenty five Euro um, we want to m make an overall profit for the the company of fifty million Euros so we're we're looking at selling a lot of these um ag across the the entire planet and and we're looking at a gross profit of fifty percent. It needs to cost twelve Euros fifty to make Um. so we're not only looking at a a very trendy original product, we're looking at making it at a very good price. Um, okay, um would anybody like t like to to start by giving their o um sort of quick views of of current remote controls. Sharon Fisher: Well to use with all the different buttons and uh it's handiest when you have one that works both the D_V_D_ player or whatever and the T_V_ as well. Um, but that it's easy to if you can switch back and forth instead of Beth Ryan: No. Sharon Fisher: having to press a bunch of different buttons and so I think it's is best when they're clearly labelled and you can see which buttons you're supposed to use, you know. Beth Ryan: Any any thoughts about buttons or any oth other way of approaching the p the uh the problem? Or anybody else, strong feelings about remote controls? Are there you know, bad ones they've used or good ones they've used or ones Jacqualine Saborido: Um Beth Ryan: that they've lost and never found again? Jacqualine Saborido: I think it's important that you should be able to when you when you press the buttons it'll actually pick up the signals from kind of anywhere and you shouldn't have to like contort yourself April Payton: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: the signal. Sharon Fisher: Yeah. April Payton: Think a lot of the time, remotes that come with T_V_ players and T_V_s and D_V_ Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: players, like they aren't like an area that's put a lot of effort into, they're very boring, very plain. Like it's Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: very a very like um making a a stylish remote control would be a very like Easily put us one step ahead of the current competition. Beth Ryan: Um what so wh what's in in what particular style features are you thinking about? April Payton: Um. Something that looks looks doesn't look like remote control. So if you want, something that looks like uh something that makes you think oh what's this? Like this pen doesn't really look like a pen, but it makes Beth Ryan: Uh-huh. April Payton: you think oh. So, sorry that's a bit vague. Beth Ryan: Yeah d no I mean do you think there's a risk if it doesn't look like remote control, people won't see it as a remote control um and uh April Payton: Uh I suppose suppose that's up to the marketing to to make make people aware of the product. Beth Ryan: Uh-huh. Any other thoughts about um th the physical appearance of a of remote controls? Sharon Fisher: I think something that's comfortable to hold because sometimes you get the remote controls that are just those Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. Sharon Fisher: big, rectangular April Payton: Mm. Sharon Fisher: things and uh they're kind of awkward to hold onto, so something that's more comfortable that fits in a person's hand better. Beth Ryan: I mean th the thing that i immediately comes to mind is computer mouses which Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. Beth Ryan: um Sharon Fisher: Yeah. April Payton: Yeah. Beth Ryan: I mean y you get all sorts of shapes Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. Beth Ryan: in the shops and s you know some quite fancy ones Sharon Fisher: Yeah. Beth Ryan: um than the some from personal experience which look nice but aren't particularly comfortable. Sharon Fisher: Yeah. Beth Ryan: Um any thoughts about buttons or flat screens or uh uh April Payton: Well from the mouse idea you could, remote is a piece of plastic with the big rubber buttons sticking out of it which you press, whereas if you want could all be flat and the buttons are very kind of almost subtle that instead of being raised out of the device uh you push into device you see, like a mouse button. Beth Ryan: Yes, I mean the only thing is if if you're watching television in a in a a darkened room Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: I suppose. Beth Ryan: um you need to be able to uh fi April Payton: Easily, yeah Beth Ryan: find April Payton: yeah. Beth Ryan: the button buttons easily. Sharon Fisher: But maybe they could be concave instead of sticking up to have them be kind of down so you could feel them April Payton: Mm. Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. Sharon Fisher: better. Beth Ryan: Yeah, that's uh must admit I don't think I've ever seen one with concave buttons, that's uh certainly be different. Um do we need it to uh I can't think of any re remote controls that I know of that actually light up at all. Do we Sharon Fisher: Oh yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: Mm that Beth Ryan: do Jacqualine Saborido: would Beth Ryan: we Jacqualine Saborido: be Beth Ryan: want Jacqualine Saborido: good. Beth Ryan: uh Sharon Fisher: Like a like a mobile phone? Beth Ryan: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. Sharon Fisher: Yeah. April Payton: Mm, Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: yeah that would be good. Beth Ryan: Okay. So, Andrew have you had any thoughts yet about how we might market something which there are already millions out there and that we want to uh uh uh t take over the entire um the planet with? April Payton: Mm-hmm, um especially if we try to sell, what two million of them. Oh sorry, four million of 'em, but uh I think if w if we market it as as not as not well this you c you could either market it as the point of view we could have the two we could have parallel marketing s schemes where you've got one where it appeals to people that want to have the new device that looks cool, Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: is fashionable and like you just it's it's like uh it's one that rather than ra I wan I want rather than a kind of a need relationship Beth Ryan: Mm-hmm. April Payton: with the device, but that might considering the act what the device is for and the nature of some people might not like respond to having a device that they just looks nice, therefore they want it so make it practical at the same time. I think it's this is gonna have to appeal to people that want device that can enhance their living room uh Beth Ryan: Mm-hmm. April Payton: but also a device that uh is practically sound. Beth Ryan: Mm-hmm. April Payton: So um, I dunno we'll have to decide which which angle we're gonna go to or both. Beth Ryan: Okay, April Payton: If you. Beth Ryan: yeah, yeah, well I d I think an any uh any facets that we identify w we aim need to aim for for all of. April Payton: Mm. Beth Ryan: Um okay well first thoughts on um the the industrial design side. Jacqualine Saborido: Oh I think it's it's remote controls are kind of a unique object 'cause it's you depend on them so much, but you don't i i it's you sort of just assume they're always gonna work, you don't think of them as a comp like a computer can break down and you're kinda like oh well fair enough there's all these complex things going on, it's gonna something's gonna get messed up eventually. They they just need to be very very dependable because people sort of take them for granted and then if your remote control breaks it's God forbid you actually get up and manually change the channel Beth Ryan: Indeed. Jacqualine Saborido: it just it needs to be very effective, very always dependable. Uh I don't think we should make it too small I 'cause I think it needs to it can't be too big like you were saying big an and huge and um awkward, but also if you make it too small kinda like you know how mobile phones are getting smaller and smaller um, it's just gonna end up under a couch cushion somewhere Beth Ryan: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: and um yeah. But so yes dependable, and have a good medium range size. Beth Ryan: Okay, and um colours, materials? Kendra, anyone? Sharon Fisher: Well, most I think most of the remote controls now are either just black or grey, so maybe we should go with something different or be able to I was just thinking of um what they're doing with mobile phones now how you can get the different um what are they called? Like the face-plates Beth Ryan: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: Mm, Sharon Fisher: that you change Jacqualine Saborido: mm-hmm. Sharon Fisher: so we could have maybe I don't know if it would be feasible to do something with that, where you can change the face-plates or have kind of a Beth Ryan: Uh-huh. Sharon Fisher: variety so people can get different different things. Have it kind of look how they want to, different colours, things like that, Beth Ryan: Right. Sharon Fisher: probably just plastic because that's always the lightest. Beth Ryan: Yeah. Okay that's uh Again I don't think that's ever been done before, it's uh Jacqualine Saborido: Mm-hmm. Beth Ryan: the sort of the sort of thing that would get people uh thinking yes that's something that I haven't got and uh might need so. Uh Andrew, any thoughts about uh how we might market interchangeable fronts on on the remote control? April Payton: Um, well we could either market it together by getting control in a set colour or with like you buy it with several uh like you ge you get the f uh the face-plates with it when you buy or as a separate thing, but uh maybe thinking of that, it's considering the nature of the device, maybe a second thing like a second campaign to market Jacqualine Saborido: Mm. April Payton: new facials for your to your might go a bit astray since Beth Ryan: Yeah. April Payton: it is the kind of thing where y you generally get one and then forget about it. Unless Beth Ryan: Yeah. April Payton: you were trying to Jacqualine Saborido: Well you could come Beth Ryan: I Jacqualine Saborido: up Beth Ryan: think Jacqualine Saborido: with like novelty ones, like they've done with the the mobile phones, you can get like different you know scenes from different movies and stuff April Payton: Mm. Jacqualine Saborido: on Sharon Fisher: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: the remote control April Payton: Oh it's Jacqualine Saborido: and April Payton: that's Jacqualine Saborido: sorta April Payton: a that's a good idea. Jacqualine Saborido: stagger the release of them and get people like oh I want that cover on it now and Sharon Fisher: Yeah. Jacqualine Saborido: that'll keep them Beth Ryan: Mm-mm. April Payton: Mm. Jacqualine Saborido: spending money. Beth Ryan: Right, April Payton: Yeah true. Beth Ryan: okay I think we've got um a good idea now. We uh meeting is uh Needs to be k uh wrapped up fairly quickly. So uh um we've got thirty minutes to start looking at the um at the design in more detail. Um then we'll we will reconvene in in thirty minutes and try to get some of these ideas uh uh more formalised. Uh thank you very much indeed. Sharon Fisher: Okay. Jacqualine Saborido: Thank you.

Beth Ryan opens the meeting by welcoming everybody and saying they will be developing a new television remote control. Then each group member states his/her name and role in the group. Beth Ryan states that the remote needs to be original, trendy, and user-friendly. The further work will be on the functional, conceptual, and detailed design. Since they all know what a whiteboard is, they do a virtual drawing by each stating their favorite animal. Beth Ryan tells them the project budget. They proceed to discuss problems with current remotes as well as preferable styles and looks, such as using face-plates so the look is changable. Beth Ryan closes the meeting.

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Patricia Douglas: Alright? Alright. Thank you for coming to this meeting of the uh uh design group. Um I think we uh made some definite progress at the last one um and come up with some interesting uh uh w suggestions for our our new remote control. Um I'll again very quickly uh just present some notes of that meeting. Um the the the problem with existing remote controls, we felt, was that they're ugly um and that people are prepared to pay a premium for something better. Um they've got lots buttons on them that uh people don't use and find difficult to learn. Um and people lose them. And We we thought that f for our our new uh uh remote control that everybody will want to rush out and buy, um that we're we should look at speech recognition rather than r rather than buttons, and that if we have any buttons they should be very few of them and only for those functions that are actually identified that that people use. That um we want to go for uh a long lasting battery that we gua we guarantee for the life of the uh uh the product and a shape that will be instantly recognisable, A_ um as uh a trendy remote control, and and B_ as uh a Real Reaction product. So that w uh when people are uh happy with that, they will they will want to buy uh everything else from us. Uh Okay. So again um, I'll we'll have the three three presentations from the the the three of you and then uh we'll we'll make a a final a final uh decision. Um and the the decisions that we need to to make today, finally, are um what energy source we want to use, whether i it is practical to use uh um a a a long lasting one. And uh I I think our discussion was around the fact that uh if we're gonna go for uh a long lasting power supply, then basically it's uh sealed for life and uh if anybody does manage to run one down, we'll we'll give them another one. And uh it it'll be uh, you know, prominently displayed as part of the th the advertising literature that it's um um, you know, for life, guaranteed for life. Um now the the the internal chip um and uh this is where I need uh uh Kate's expert advice and given that th this has to to go to market as quickly as possible um d d do we go for a custom designed chip? Or or do we buy one off the shelf and and programme it ourselves? Uh I mean I'm I'm I'm n not an expert on these things, but presumably, there must be loads of 'em already on the market that we can modify. But uh that that's uh that's your area of expertise. And then the uh, you know, the the overall design of the case uh is is is Kendra's field and uh we we had some discussions last time as as to uh how we might go forward and we'll we'll finalise those uh da today. Um and thi this is all linked in with the the the user interface, whether we p um go for voice, buttons, or or a bit of both. Uh and then uh, you know, f for the next meeting Kate will be looking at the the the s the look, feel and design, Kendra the uh ho how the the user actually uses it and and Andrew of course the the product evaluation. And uh Kate and Kendra will be producing a a model for us to uh to look at. Uh so, if if we can have the the three presentations again please, and uh um p perhaps you'd like to start Janet Dickens: Okay. Patricia Douglas: uh k. Kate. Janet Dickens: Um Patricia Douglas: Oh I'm sorry, Janet Dickens: Um Patricia Douglas: oh sorry. Janet Dickens: there we go. Janet Dickens: 'Kay, I'll just be talking about the components design. And Okay, basically I just uh looked at what exactly do remotes do. Uh basically they wait for you to press a key or give a voice command and then this is translated uh into uh light signals which are then seen by the T_V_. Uh the materials we're gonna need to look at uh the two big ones are the integrated circuit chip and the battery and the in integrated circuit chip uh works in conjunction with a a diode transistor or resonator, uh two more resistors and a capacitor and the battery works in conjunction with a resistor and a capacitor. Um. Uh basically what happens is you'll press a number or give a voice command and this creates a a connection within the the remote that allows the chip the chip then senses this connection and produces a signal in a Morse code format. This signal's sent to the transistor which amplifies it and then sends it on to the light emitting diode and uh which is then trai changed into a infrared light which is sent to the T_V_ and sort of seen by the T_V_ and which uh changes the channels. Um. Oh. Uh cool. Janet Dickens: Uh so as for how we should end up uh using this in our remote uh t couple of main questions are the buttons. Uh y the fewer buttons you have, I guess the fewer internal connections and internal codes you're gonna need. Um however uh to n not have buttons or to use a voice commands instead of buttons might make these connections more difficult and uh raise the production cost. That's something we should think about. Also we have to work within the company constraints, and the company has informed Emily Cashen via email that uh they're experts at pushbuttons and that seems to be the most uh cost-effective way of producing it. Um also with battery connections the company has some limits on the batteries we can use, so I was thinking perhaps a combination of solar cells with a back-up basic battery and somehow between the combination of that two we might be able to come up with something that uh will last the the lifetime or the five to ten years and we could still keep that original idea. Um we also need to look at the chips, uh v custom-designed versus off the shelf, and the custom-designed will give us much more flexibility and enable us to incorporate the voice function that we all uh seem to have agreed upon. Um, however that's gonna cost more, but uh the off the shelf is gonna be uh cheaper and it's gonna be allow us to produce it quicker and get out there faster, but it's going to be less flexible with the features, especially things like uh voice activation, which haven't really been used much on remotes, so there's not really chips out there that would be easy to uh to convert, so if we were uh definitely gonna go with the the voice option we'd probably have to design um our own chip. And that pretty much sums it up. Patricia Douglas: Okay, so how um sorry, Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: can you uh Janet Dickens: Oh Patricia Douglas: just Janet Dickens: yep, Patricia Douglas: put Janet Dickens: sorry. Patricia Douglas: that one back up again, please? Janet Dickens: Yep. Patricia Douglas: Um. Uh d d d okay, I mean uh inevitably a b a custom design chip is gonna be more expensive. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Do we do we know uh by how Janet Dickens: Um Patricia Douglas: much? Janet Dickens: I don't actually have any price information, no. Patricia Douglas: And and do we know how long it'll take to uh develop a a custom chip. Janet Dickens: Um it a lot longer than an off the shelf chip. Oh w yeah, we did the the problem is the the the voice technology is not really highly Patricia Douglas: Right, Janet Dickens: developed, it's sort of still Patricia Douglas: okay. Janet Dickens: still in an ex experimental form, uh so it would uh it's hard to predict the time. Patricia Douglas: Right, I think we need to make a a decision here. Uh given that the company wants this on the market quickly and cheaply, Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: that would appear to uh effectively constrain us to an existing chip and thus therefore conventional button technology. Um uh now before we go round everybody else, does anybody um Gail Thrift: I Patricia Douglas: h have any have anyti ha anything to say about that? Gail Thrift: I just have a question about. Um does it make a difference if there are just a few commands, for example if you um can pre-programme in like numbers one through ten and pre-programme say, you know, nine channels and then just use the voice recognition to say channel one and then you've programmed in say B_B_C_ four as your channel one, as your favourite, it's like to have a certain number of favourites um Janet Dickens: W Gail Thrift: and that Janet Dickens: just Gail Thrift: w Janet Dickens: to to incorporate the voice activation in it is is sorta the trick. Once Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: you've got the whole voice chip Gail Thrift: Then Janet Dickens: in there, Gail Thrift: it doesn't Janet Dickens: then Gail Thrift: matter. Janet Dickens: it's pretty much Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: the the world the the sky is your limit, but to actually the the big step is to actually get the voice Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: activation chips in there and working. Patricia Douglas: Cause uh I must say I find it slightly surprising given that, you know, mobile phones incorporate voice activated dialling. So uh Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: um I mean I d d for slightly different well no, I mean, it's if you you speak somebody's name and it'll dial the number for you, so uh bu I mean the this this information is from is this is the internal company Janet Dickens: Uh Patricia Douglas: information, Janet Dickens: bits Patricia Douglas: is it? Janet Dickens: of it, yeah. Patricia Douglas: So Gail Thrift: Of course Patricia Douglas: uh Gail Thrift: mobile phones do tend to be more expensive, Janet Dickens: Yes, as well. Gail Thrift: you know, hundred and fifty pounds or something. As opposed to Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Gail Thrift: the Patricia Douglas: mm true, Gail Thrift: twenty Patricia Douglas: again but Gail Thrift: Euros, Patricia Douglas: if it's without Gail Thrift: twenty Patricia Douglas: any Gail Thrift: five Euros. Patricia Douglas: without any uh p price informations that's uh difficult to uh uh decide. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Emily Cashen: Also lots of mobile phones have got a lot of technology in them, not just Janet Dickens: Mm. Emily Cashen: that, Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Emily Cashen: so. Patricia Douglas: that's that's right It's. like it's it's you can't 'cause mobile phones are expensive, you can't say it's the voice recognition Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: bit that is. But we don't know. Um. I mean uh I su i I mean if given that the um the technology is not well developed and and given that it's it's never been done before, um th th the double risk, uh perhaps we ought to uh stick to uh to buttons, since the last thing we want to do is present a product that doesn't work. Um. Thoughts? Gail Thrift: Well, another Emily Cashen: Would Gail Thrift: thought I oh, sorry, go ahead. Emily Cashen: Oh I was just gonna say mayb maybe it sh like um maybe we can like cut corners somewhere else to bring in over cost. Patricia Douglas: I mean do w do we think that the voice technology is fundamental to the project? Janet Dickens: Uh it's fundament well I mean I guess it it's something we've discussed uh since the the sort of the beginning, so I th I think in in our in our minds it's it's fundamental, but I don't know that the uh the upper echelons of the company would necessarily agree with that, so I think Patricia Douglas: I mean I think Janet Dickens: you have Patricia Douglas: we Janet Dickens: to Gail Thrift: Oh yeah. Patricia Douglas: Mm. Janet Dickens: Hm. Gail Thrift: Okay. Well, I kinda think if we're gonna have the voice recognition for part of it, then maybe we should have it for the whole thing. Patricia Douglas: Yeah, I I Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: I I I think that's uh Gail Thrift: And we've been talking about it the whole Janet Dickens: Mm, Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Gail Thrift: time. Anyway, Janet Dickens: mm. Gail Thrift: I'm Patricia Douglas: yeah. Gail Thrift: I'm incli kinda inclined to say that we should just Patricia Douglas: Mm, Gail Thrift: go for Patricia Douglas: right, Gail Thrift: it. Patricia Douglas: okay. Janet Dickens: Mm. Emily Cashen: Uh yeah, it's the second most important aspect to users that the device should be technologically innovative. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Emily Cashen: From uh my presentation Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Emily Cashen: show, so. Patricia Douglas: it should be Emily Cashen: Uh technologically innovative. Patricia Douglas: Right, okay, so. Janet Dickens: No, that Patricia Douglas: Fine. Janet Dickens: sounds good. Patricia Douglas: Okay. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: I it will have voice recognition Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: um Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: Cool. Patricia Douglas: uh if if that means uh if that means we can't afford buttons but I mean b b second question, do we need the five buttons for channel change, up down, volume up down and on off, just as a a backup or Janet Dickens: Um Patricia Douglas: just so that people can Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: uh j j just sit Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: there pressing Janet Dickens: I I Patricia Douglas: buttons? Janet Dickens: would say we do, yeah. Gail Thrift: I think so. Patricia Douglas: Right. Okay. Sorry, d did you want to say anything? Janet Dickens: Uh nope, Patricia Douglas: No? Janet Dickens: that was it, Patricia Douglas: Okay. Janet Dickens: that was it. Patricia Douglas: Shall we move rapidly Janet Dickens: Okay. Patricia Douglas: on to uh Gail Thrift: Okay. Patricia Douglas: Kendra? Uh um ra rapidly move the cable over. Gail Thrift: Let's see. Patricia Douglas: Mm. Oh good. Gail Thrift: Oh. Yes. Is it gonna work? Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: Mm Janet Dickens: it's thinking Patricia Douglas: yeah, Janet Dickens: about Patricia Douglas: it'll Janet Dickens: it. Patricia Douglas: get there. Yep. Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: Okay, so I did some research on the internet and um what you know, the interf user interface are just aspects that are seen by users, um commands and mechanisms for the operation, and there're just kind of a variety of choices. Um findings, so a lot of times they tend to look cluttered and Patricia Douglas: Mm-hmm. Gail Thrift: these were just a couple examples of um different kinds that are a little bit more unusual. There're some Patricia Douglas: Mm, Gail Thrift: special Patricia Douglas: yeah. Gail Thrift: ones available, like this one right here, which is Patricia Douglas: Uh-huh. Gail Thrift: marketed towards children, um Patricia Douglas: Alright. Gail Thrift: different designs, and one of the things that n we need to watch out for is a V_ in volume because people some Gail Thrift: Bring a little picture of what I thought ours could look like. So just kind of minimise the Patricia Douglas: Mm-hmm. Gail Thrift: clutter, avoid too many buttons and also um one of the things that people have used is a slide button, like you have on a mouse, that possibly we could use that on the sides Emily Cashen: Mm. Gail Thrift: for volume, for example, have the slide button on the side, and then you can pre-programme the channels, Patricia Douglas: Mm Gail Thrift: the Patricia Douglas: yeah. Gail Thrift: voice recognition and then the Patricia Douglas: Sorry Gail Thrift: voice Patricia Douglas: y Gail Thrift: response Patricia Douglas: y Gail Thrift: sample Patricia Douglas: yeah, Gail Thrift: locator. Patricia Douglas: if I can interrupt you. Well d p 'kay, do you wanna say anything Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: about um slide controls? I mean I think the reason everybody uses pushbuttons is that they're Janet Dickens: Uh Patricia Douglas: they're si simple, cheap and Janet Dickens: Uh I think they're Patricia Douglas: reliable. Janet Dickens: they're about the same cost really. I I mean, I think it's just sort of the the there's a lot of slide buttons out there. I think it's pretty much the same sort of connection. Patricia Douglas: Okay, Janet Dickens: Mm Patricia Douglas: fair enough, Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: fine. Gail Thrift: Just because I n for example if I'm using a mouse I like to be able to slide it up and Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: down so I thought it might Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Gail Thrift: be good for volume to just be able to Patricia Douglas: Good, Gail Thrift: kind of roll it Patricia Douglas: good. Gail Thrift: and then have the up and down and then the Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Gail Thrift: this is my Patricia Douglas: So Gail Thrift: great Patricia Douglas: three Gail Thrift: little Patricia Douglas: three Gail Thrift: drawing. Patricia Douglas: there's three buttons on a slider. Three buttons, Gail Thrift: Y Patricia Douglas: channel Gail Thrift: yes, Emily Cashen: Well, Patricia Douglas: up channel Gail Thrift: yes. Patricia Douglas: up Emily Cashen: if Patricia Douglas: down Emily Cashen: you g if Patricia Douglas: and Emily Cashen: you you got channel down, can have a slider in that as well. Because if it if you no if you notice on the thing it it kind of like has got kind of if you you know it s kind of like sticks, if you know what I mean, up like one unit, if you see what Gail Thrift: Yeah. Emily Cashen: I mean. Janet Dickens: Mm. Emily Cashen: So it kinda goes up one, then y like you can keep rolling it up, but it's like like like like a cog or something. Patricia Douglas: Uh-huh. Emily Cashen: So you kinda take it up one at a time. Patricia Douglas: Okay. Gail Thrift: The only advantage Emily Cashen: D Patricia Douglas: Um Gail Thrift: I was thinking of to having the buttons, like the buttons on one side for the channel, Patricia Douglas: Mm-hmm. Gail Thrift: and then the slider is that if you're just holding in your hand, and you pick it up, it's easy to n s Emily Cashen: Oh. Gail Thrift: know, okay, this is just the volume and this is Patricia Douglas: This Gail Thrift: the channel. Patricia Douglas: one Emily Cashen: Uh Patricia Douglas: on the one Emily Cashen: you could Patricia Douglas: side and one Emily Cashen: you Patricia Douglas: yeah. Emily Cashen: could Janet Dickens: Ye yeah, 'cause Emily Cashen: as Janet Dickens: I've Emily Cashen: l Janet Dickens: definitely Emily Cashen: as Patricia Douglas: Okay. Emily Cashen: like Janet Dickens: picked Emily Cashen: a mouse Janet Dickens: up remotes Emily Cashen: you could Janet Dickens: and like meant to Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Janet Dickens: change the channel and turn the volume, or Gail Thrift: Yeah. Janet Dickens: vice versa, so it'd be Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Janet Dickens: kinda good to have them be feel completely different. You'd know what you were fiddling with. Yeah. Emily Cashen: Yeah, like Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Emily Cashen: the shape Gail Thrift: That Patricia Douglas: or Emily Cashen: of Gail Thrift: was Emily Cashen: it almost Patricia Douglas: yeah Emily Cashen: like a Patricia Douglas: uh Emily Cashen: mouse, Patricia Douglas: th th Emily Cashen: with Patricia Douglas: the Emily Cashen: a Patricia Douglas: I mean thi this is what the we have to come up with is the the actual shape that people can ins instantly pick it up and and know Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: know uh know what it's going to do. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: Okay, so we we're looking at sliders for both a uh volume and channel change Gail Thrift: Um well I was Patricia Douglas: of Gail Thrift: thinking Patricia Douglas: one sort. Gail Thrift: kind of just for the volume, Patricia Douglas: Just Gail Thrift: but Patricia Douglas: for the volume, Gail Thrift: what Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: uh. Gail Thrift: what Emily Cashen: Dep Gail Thrift: do you guys think? Emily Cashen: I dunno if it Gail Thrift: We Emily Cashen: depending Gail Thrift: could Emily Cashen: on the final shape of it, 'cause you could have like, I dunno, it looks like you can c control the volume with your thumb, and then you could control Gail Thrift: Yeah, Emily Cashen: the buttons Janet Dickens: Yeah, Emily Cashen: with your fingers. Patricia Douglas: Fingers, yeah. Gail Thrift: yeah. Patricia Douglas: I Janet Dickens: if Patricia Douglas: mean it's Janet Dickens: yeah, Patricia Douglas: it's Janet Dickens: in that kinda position the fingers would be better for pressing and Patricia Douglas: It Janet Dickens: the Patricia Douglas: yeah, Janet Dickens: that Patricia Douglas: I mean Janet Dickens: for Patricia Douglas: it Gail Thrift: B Janet Dickens: rolling, Patricia Douglas: it Janet Dickens: just Patricia Douglas: it seems Janet Dickens: the way it Patricia Douglas: to Emily Cashen Janet Dickens: would Patricia Douglas: that Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: uh it uh it al also has the advantage that it it the two are clearly different, Janet Dickens: Mm Gail Thrift: Yeah. Janet Dickens: yeah, yeah, Patricia Douglas: um Emily Cashen: Oh yeah, yeah. Patricia Douglas: that Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: there's no no possibility of uh confusing the two. So Gail Thrift: I'm just Patricia Douglas: okay. Gail Thrift: gonna pass this along. Patricia Douglas: Right so uh that's sorry is that that all you Gail Thrift: Yes. Patricia Douglas: want to say at the mo okay, fine. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: Mm right. Emily Cashen: Here we go. Patricia Douglas: Right. Emily Cashen: Uh yeah, this is my report on trend watching. Patricia Douglas: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: The data's come off internet uh from executive summary for us on the top three things wanted by the consumer. And we got reports from Paris, Milan on new fashions. And uh the most important aspect is the l the look it has to look fancy, look and feel Patricia Douglas: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: uh instead of the current functional look and feel. This is a st well I was gonna say yeah twice as important as the Patricia Douglas: Mm. Emily Cashen: second aspect, which is the technologically innov innovative um side of it. So uh and the third being easy to use is probably a given, we have to try and incorporate, so uh Patricia Douglas: Well I I mean I th I think that what we're suggesting ought to address all three of those. Emily Cashen: Uh Gail Thrift: Yeah. Emily Cashen: exactly, yeah. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Okay. Emily Cashen: I s that out of sequence? Uh yeah, sorry. Uh yeah, and uh from the fashion watchers from Milan and Paris have said fruit and vegetables are an important theme for clothes and furniture and shoes, et cetera. Gail Thrift: Oh. Emily Cashen: Uh sorry, clothes, shoes and Patricia Douglas: Uh-huh. Emily Cashen: furniture and uh a spongy material to be used on the on the outside. Patricia Douglas: Mm I hadn't thought of that, that's different, certainly. Janet Dickens: Mm. Emily Cashen: Yeah. But uh I was gonna say um yeah, fruit Patricia Douglas: What? Emily Cashen: and vegetables, uh important to this year um important to furniture, I'm just gonna say uh f like it's in if if fashion if we're going for the it looks fancy, then fashion is obviously the line we gotta be going through. Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: But fashions do don't last very long. Janet Dickens: Well that can kinda tie into our changing uh face things, like we could have Emily Cashen: Mm. Janet Dickens: the fruit and vegetable theme this year Emily Cashen: Yeah. Janet Dickens: and uh Gail Thrift: Yeah. Janet Dickens: whatever happens next year, we can have the Emily Cashen: Yeah, we can Janet Dickens: face Emily Cashen: have a Janet Dickens: plates, Emily Cashen: sp Janet Dickens: yeah. Emily Cashen: like a spongy skin on it and then we Janet Dickens: Yeah, Emily Cashen: can just Patricia Douglas: Uh. Emily Cashen: whip that off and Janet Dickens: yeah. Gail Thrift: Yeah like the kind you get on like hand weights. You know, that Janet Dickens: Mm, Gail Thrift: kind of spongy Janet Dickens: yeah, that weird I dunno what that is, Patricia Douglas: Uh. Janet Dickens: but Gail Thrift: yeah. Janet Dickens: yeah. Emily Cashen: A kind of yeah. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Also Emily Cashen: Oh Patricia Douglas: means you can drop it without damaging it. Emily Cashen: Yeah. Janet Dickens: Uh, Emily Cashen: That's Janet Dickens: yeah, Emily Cashen: c Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: it's good Emily Cashen: cool. Janet Dickens: as well. Gail Thrift: that's true. Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: Um you have we could if we could save depending on the cost of the product itself, you know, could we have uh a cheaper b cheaper power source and then just have it annually renewed? Instead of having a ten year guarantee? With interchangeable covers, could just buy a new one every year, a new Gail Thrift: Yeah. Emily Cashen: one when new fashions come out. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: I I mean it its uh I that's an interesting idea, it's like the old Swatch watch where uh um on only batteries ever got changed in those, 'cause people just bought a new one when it went out of fashion, but Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: it's just never been seen as a a fashion item before. Emily Cashen: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: Um that's Gail Thrift: Wh Patricia Douglas: yes Janet Dickens: I Patricia Douglas: if if if they're made in sufficient quantity Janet Dickens: I think it's easier sometimes to have them buy changeable covers for it than to buy a whole new one, because you don't feel like you're investing in a whole new product. Patricia Douglas: W I mean we we can uh uh b but I mean my feeling is that Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: current power sources are such that Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: for relatively little cost you can make it last, you know, a long time. Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: Um but if we also make it cheap enough that people either change the cover every year or Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: even buy a new one every year then it it's it's even better. Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: What if we Emily Cashen: Mm-hmm. Gail Thrift: included the batteries in the cover? Janet Dickens: Oh yeah. Gail Thrift: So Janet Dickens: I like Gail Thrift: um Janet Dickens: that. That Gail Thrift: like Janet Dickens: all c also kind of encourages 'em to buy new covers and yeah. Gail Thrift: Yeah, so can I see that Janet Dickens: Um. Gail Thrift: thing? Patricia Douglas: S Gail Thrift: Just this Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Gail Thrift: as examples. Patricia Douglas: yeah, I n I know the only p Gail Thrift: So Patricia Douglas: I mean Gail Thrift: f Patricia Douglas: the the the the immediate thing that comes to mind with that is that it it it y you've then got the connection and you've immediately got a sort of unreliability, whereas Janet Dickens: Uh yeah. Patricia Douglas: the advantage of having it plumbed in is that that the whole thing is all, you know, completely soldered together Gail Thrift: Yeah, I Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: guess that's Patricia Douglas: and it it it you know, total Gail Thrift: true. Patricia Douglas: reliability, but I mean I d I I uh I know what you're saying and uh understand Emily Cashen: Or Patricia Douglas: where you're coming from. Emily Cashen: well, but like uh like more than just the battery, like a complete different like you've only got like, you know like th uh this bit's the bit you keep, and this is the expensive bit, this is like the chip and this is Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: the microphone. And then this is the power source and the bit everyone sees. And then Patricia Douglas: I th I s I think if we're gonna go down that route, then we're talking about uh even if it costs slightly more than that, um just building the whole thing in one, then having Emily Cashen: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: getting Emily Cashen: you probably Patricia Douglas: cheaper Emily Cashen: are right. Patricia Douglas: production costs um and, you know giving people the option of buying a new uh a a complete new thing, the advantage of a replaceable cover is that even if they don't it doesn't have a cover on at all, it will still work Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: um Gail Thrift: that's true. Patricia Douglas: totally. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Um Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: then if, Gail Thrift: yeah. Patricia Douglas: you know, if people lose the cover, I mean they they might be well inclined to go out and spend however many Euros on a on a new one Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: um rather than a a complete new Janet Dickens: Well Patricia Douglas: re Janet Dickens: that that's Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: remote. Janet Dickens: just it with the covers, you're sort of tricking 'em into continuing to spend their money on our products without making 'em feel like they're being ripped off having to buy a new product. Patricia Douglas: Yeah, I Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: mean it Janet Dickens: So, Patricia Douglas: is Gail Thrift: just Patricia Douglas: it's Gail Thrift: another Patricia Douglas: up to it's Janet Dickens: yeah. Gail Thrift: five Patricia Douglas: up to Gail Thrift: Euro to get Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: Yeah, it's it's up to our marketing people Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: to Gail Thrift: Right. Patricia Douglas: to ma to ma turn it into a a fashion item. Janet Dickens: Mm, yeah. Patricia Douglas: Um and, you know, as as external fashions change, then we get new new covers Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: on the market and, you know, readily available. And Janet Dickens: And that's the Patricia Douglas: um Janet Dickens: sort of thing, once you get the mould set, you can just whip out different colours, different Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: pictures Gail Thrift: like they have Janet Dickens: very Gail Thrift: for Janet Dickens: very Gail Thrift: mobile Janet Dickens: quickly. Gail Thrift: phones Patricia Douglas: that's Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: that's Gail Thrift: that Janet Dickens: yeah, Patricia Douglas: right, Gail Thrift: are just Janet Dickens: exactly, Patricia Douglas: yeah, Janet Dickens: exactly. Patricia Douglas: yeah. Gail Thrift: fruits and animal prints Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: and colours. Yeah, Patricia Douglas: So Gail Thrift: okay. Patricia Douglas: uh i so uh okay. Um right, sorry. Um we hadn't finished your Emily Cashen: Um oh, don't worry it's all said, I was just gonna say uh yeah, are we gonna make this as part of like like uh a part of the f like it it the fashions apply to furniture, so are we gonna make this part of the furniture? Patricia Douglas: It's the sort of thing that we want people to have prominent dis displayed Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: on their Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: um coffee table to say this says something about Emily Cashen. Um Emily Cashen: Yeah. This is fashionable Patricia Douglas: this Emily Cashen: with Patricia Douglas: is fashionable. Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: I, you know, I'm I'm I'm with it, I'm up to date. And you know, th the the design that I've got, and and it could be a a home-made design, um you know this says this is not just a a television remote control, this is, you know, a fashion accessory. Um, so I mean the the the basic shape i is is what we uh I mean given that we've got you know one one on off button presumably, Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: two buttons for uh channel change and one slider and basically nothing else, um w we need to decide on the just the basic shape of the thing. And, know whether we go down the fruit and veg route, and I don't suggest we make it look like a banana, but um know sort of the the organic, you know, curved look, Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: you Emily Cashen: Oh Patricia Douglas: know, Emily Cashen: yeah. Patricia Douglas: t to deliberately get away from the uh um uh you know, the the the the square look of most um current uh remotes and, you know, whether whether the you know, the the fixed part of it is the corporate yellow. Um mm or uh 'cause there's certainly you know, the the corporate logo needs to be prominently uh displayed so that people s th looked at it and say right, that's a Real Reaction remote control, I want one of those. Janet Dickens: I dunno that we should make the whole thing yellow I kinda thought with a you'd have like a yellow circle with the R_R_ in it somewhere Patricia Douglas: Yeah uh Janet Dickens: on Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: the Janet Dickens: it, Gail Thrift: like Patricia Douglas: the Janet Dickens: but I'd Gail Thrift: an. Patricia Douglas: uh Janet Dickens: yellow Patricia Douglas: or or b Janet Dickens: seems a bit of a strong colour Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Janet Dickens: to Patricia Douglas: I'd Janet Dickens: make Patricia Douglas: I'd Janet Dickens: the ent like Patricia Douglas: um Janet Dickens: the thing no, Patricia Douglas: yeah. Janet Dickens: but I mean just Gail Thrift: Yeah. Janet Dickens: like Patricia Douglas: Uh Janet Dickens: white Patricia Douglas: no I Janet Dickens: or Patricia Douglas: d Janet Dickens: grey Patricia Douglas: I I Janet Dickens: or Patricia Douglas: agree, Janet Dickens: black Patricia Douglas: I mean Janet Dickens: or some sort Patricia Douglas: we're Janet Dickens: of Patricia Douglas: we're we're Janet Dickens: blah Patricia Douglas: simply Janet Dickens: colour. Patricia Douglas: it's simply required Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: to Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: incorporate the Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: the the the corporate Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: logo prominently Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: um. Emily Cashen: And make that a fashion Gail Thrift: Well Emily Cashen: symbol Gail Thrift: n Emily Cashen: as well. Patricia Douglas: Well, th this is this is the whole point, yes, you know, I'm I've got a a Real Reaction uh remote control to go with my Real Reaction coffee maker or or whatever. And uh then people, you know, people demand more Real Reaction Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: stuff. Gail Thrift: Well I was sort of mm kinda picturing like maybe um a shape that's almost like a mouse. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Gail Thrift: So Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: that, you know, when they hold it it's because a mouse is pretty comfortable to hold in your hand um maybe we could make it a slightly different shape so they could hold on to it, but that way they can have the volume on the side and then the channel buttons and Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Gail Thrift: have the power, wherever, somewhere. Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: I mean Patricia Douglas: I mean Gail Thrift: that was Patricia Douglas: I've Gail Thrift: just Patricia Douglas: uh Gail Thrift: an Patricia Douglas: yeah. Gail Thrift: idea that I had. Patricia Douglas: Oh no that well there's the sim my my idea was something a b probably you know a bit fatter than this but sort of Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: tha that sorta shape so Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: that you can Gail Thrift: maybe. Patricia Douglas: just sort of Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: ho Janet Dickens: you'd want Patricia Douglas: hold Janet Dickens: it Patricia Douglas: it. Janet Dickens: narrower Gail Thrift: Kind Janet Dickens: than Gail Thrift: of a Janet Dickens: a Gail Thrift: c Janet Dickens: mouse though 'cause it a mouse you're kinda just resting on it, you want something you can definitely grip. Patricia Douglas: W it Janet Dickens: So Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: I mean Janet Dickens: maybe Patricia Douglas: well Janet Dickens: it'd Patricia Douglas: it's Janet Dickens: be Patricia Douglas: sort of it's it's sort Gail Thrift: Sort Patricia Douglas: of Gail Thrift: of a combination. Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: uh a Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: a mouse, but held, Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: you know, so it's you sorta hold Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: it in your hand like that, i Janet Dickens: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: with, Janet Dickens: and Patricia Douglas: you know, Janet Dickens: fiddle Patricia Douglas: and Janet Dickens: around Patricia Douglas: fiddling Janet Dickens: with it and press Patricia Douglas: with the buttons. Janet Dickens: it. Gail Thrift: Yeah so yeah, kind of maybe maybe a little wider than this, 'cause this is pretty comfortable to hold, and then if you had Janet Dickens: Maybe almost like a hairbrush, like you could get the about the width of that end of the Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: pen and then it widens up top Gail Thrift: then wider Janet Dickens: and you Gail Thrift: up Janet Dickens: can Gail Thrift: here. Janet Dickens: fiddle an Gail Thrift: And then Janet Dickens: yeah. Gail Thrift: it would have a l uh wider thing Janet Dickens: Yeah, Gail Thrift: to uh have Janet Dickens: yeah. Gail Thrift: the light, the Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: infrared light at the T_V_ and just kinda change channels and adjust Janet Dickens: Mm. Gail Thrift: the volume and the power could be wherever, up up the top or something. Janet Dickens: Yeah, cool. Gail Thrift: What do you guys think about that? Emily Cashen: Yeah, that sounds Patricia Douglas: Okay, yeah, yeah. Emily Cashen: Um I'm just I'm suddenly realising that yeah we're discussing how much how good it's gonna be to change channels t we still can just tell it to. I mean are we are we starting to get away from the the voice functionality of it? Gail Thrift: Oh yeah. Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: It's a very good point. Gail Thrift: It is Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: a very good point. Patricia Douglas: I think we d I think we decided that w we're actually going down both routes. Janet Dickens: Yeah, Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: That Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: um the we n we need the the manual controls and that they should be of that form, Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: but that uh Janet Dickens: But Patricia Douglas: yeah. Janet Dickens: do you know, this shape also kind of les lend itself to to voice 'cause if you're you're holding it and you're fiddling, but you can also Patricia Douglas: Then you just Janet Dickens: bring it up Patricia Douglas: bring Janet Dickens: like Patricia Douglas: it up Janet Dickens: that Patricia Douglas: to your mouth Janet Dickens: and it's Patricia Douglas: and just Janet Dickens: microphone-esque, Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: speak Gail Thrift: say Patricia Douglas: to it, yeah, Janet Dickens: yeah, Patricia Douglas: yeah. Emily Cashen: Yeah, Janet Dickens: yeah. Emily Cashen: maybe we cou like w like we're leaving out the buttons for the the f less frequently used stuff, but maybe we could Janet Dickens: Mm. Emily Cashen: incorporate that into the voice. Patricia Douglas: I th I th honest uh my personal view is that if it's not there, people wouldn't use it anyway Emily Cashen: Mm I suppose, but Patricia Douglas: um. Emily Cashen: t there is the off chance that, you know, th the brightness is wrong on your T_V_ or the contrast needs changing. Patricia Douglas: It's cer it's certainly possible I mean, but they Janet Dickens: Bu Patricia Douglas: we we're going beyond Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: w w given the state of the technology we want something that we kno we know will will work Emily Cashen: Hmm yeah. Patricia Douglas: um. Janet Dickens: Well you can still i incorporate the voice with with less buttons. I mean uh if the power button was also somehow like a menu button you could press that and or do voice commands, and either volume thing could Patricia Douglas: Uh Janet Dickens: also be to scroll through other options like y and you could scroll Emily Cashen: Yeah, Janet Dickens: through brightness Emily Cashen: that's a good idea. Janet Dickens: and Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: and Gail Thrift: I suppose Janet Dickens: sc and then you Gail Thrift: I sup Janet Dickens: can you can minimise the buttons and still have Patricia Douglas: Yeah. Janet Dickens: those, you know, brightness Emily Cashen: Yeah. Janet Dickens: and tint and stuff. Patricia Douglas: If we we're I mean I'm getting a clear message that we think that we should have those facilities available. Gail Thrift: So I guess we could have a Janet Dickens: Yeah Gail Thrift: menu button as well. We could have the channels and the power and then a menu button Janet Dickens: Yeah. Gail Thrift: and then the volume. So have four buttons and the volume instead of three buttons and the volume. Patricia Douglas: Uh uh uh Okay, if we if we're going down that route, then we need some sort of display. Do we Janet Dickens: But Patricia Douglas: need Janet Dickens: the Patricia Douglas: some Janet Dickens: television Patricia Douglas: sort of display? Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: would be Gail Thrift: that's Patricia Douglas: We Janet Dickens: the display Patricia Douglas: actually Gail Thrift: on the Janet Dickens: that Patricia Douglas: use Gail Thrift: T_V_, Patricia Douglas: the television, Janet Dickens: things Gail Thrift: yeah. Janet Dickens: like that usually c pop Patricia Douglas: okay. Janet Dickens: up on a televi Gail Thrift: Yeah, and Janet Dickens: like Gail Thrift: then Janet Dickens: you hit Gail Thrift: y Janet Dickens: menu Patricia Douglas: Okay, Janet Dickens: and menu will come up on television Patricia Douglas: okay, Janet Dickens: and have like tint brightness, Patricia Douglas: okay. Janet Dickens: and you'd use the scroll, Emily Cashen: Well Janet Dickens: scroll through it Emily Cashen: I Janet Dickens: yeah. Emily Cashen: mean on a Patricia Douglas: Yep. Emily Cashen: as well, you could press it, Janet Dickens: Yeah, Emily Cashen: you could press that Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: yeah, Emily Cashen: and have Janet Dickens: that's Emily Cashen: it as Janet Dickens: true. Emily Cashen: a menu Gail Thrift: press Emily Cashen: button. Gail Thrift: that is t yeah, that Janet Dickens: I Gail Thrift: might Janet Dickens: never Gail Thrift: work. Janet Dickens: understood how that worked though, but yeah. Gail Thrift: Yeah, it's like um yeah, it's like the mouse Janet Dickens: Yeah, Gail Thrift: where you just kinda click it. Janet Dickens: mm. Gail Thrift: You just press it. Yeah, and you could just click that to so if you had like the menu then you could scroll through and then Janet Dickens: Mm, Gail Thrift: click it Janet Dickens: oka Gail Thrift: to select. Janet Dickens: yeah. Yeah. Emily Cashen: Uh yeah. Gail Thrift: You know what I mean? Patricia Douglas: Mm yeah. Okay, we got five minutes to go in this Gail Thrift: Okay. Patricia Douglas: meeting, so um I d I think we've actually very conveniently just uh come to uh a good point to s to Janet Dickens: Cool. Patricia Douglas: sum up um. So um b b Kate and Kendra now go away and uh Janet Dickens: Play with Patricia Douglas: pa play Janet Dickens: play-dough. Patricia Douglas: play with a bit of Plasticine or play-dough, whatever it is on the other side of the Atlantic. Emily Cashen: Hmm. Patricia Douglas: Um and actually put what we've discussed into something uh I was gonna say concrete, but that's a slightly inappropriate word um to something that we can we can see and um Andrew n can go away and th th think about how we can uh actually market this as a concept and not j not just a uh um a a simple remote control. Emily Cashen: Uh can I just get some things clear just for Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Emily Cashen: my Patricia Douglas: certainly, Emily Cashen: sake. Patricia Douglas: of course. Emily Cashen: Our energy source is gonna be Patricia Douglas: I Emily Cashen: long Patricia Douglas: think Emily Cashen: term. Patricia Douglas: I think we decided that we're gonna for for simplicity of, you know, manufacturing and uh maintenance that we will go for a a long term Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: battery source Emily Cashen: Cool. Patricia Douglas: um, Emily Cashen: Uh Patricia Douglas: I you know, on the basis that um that, you know, if we're going for making it a fashion statement, then uh people are more likely to change it anyway uh before i it runs out and um make an assumption that we we can aim for a battery that will last most people for uh we'll say at least five five ten years Janet Dickens: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: and that we'll w we will guarantee it for for five years um. Emily Cashen: And we're having a custom chip? Patricia Douglas: We're having a a custom chip, but given the the we've cut the functions down, um that will hopefully not be too problematic, but given that um technol technological innovation is important, then we need to, I'll say it again, technologically innovate. Um and uh we we, know, we must resist any efforts to uh to try and water that down um. Emily Cashen: And interchangeable case? Patricia Douglas: I i interchangeable case seems to be um Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: um important to the concept. Um it it should be cheap, you know, if if Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: we avoid any, Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: you know, electrical connections. And uh i you know, i if we can come up with some way of of allowing people to actually personalise it Emily Cashen: Mm, mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: uh to whatever they want, then uh I mean uh uh this is totally new. We d we don't know whether that to what extent people do it or not, but if they've at least got a a good selection of um covers that they can use anyway, and uh and if if we can keep them, you know, rolling, then uh you know, so they can get them in the supermarket when they go down to um a any of the famous supermarkets, I won't mention any mention any names, um it's uh it's good for the supermarket and it's good for us and it hopefully makes them feel better. Emily Cashen: And uh are we gonna have it il being illuminated from inside onto the buttons or Patricia Douglas: Um the that I mean that's no, because we've got so few buttons that it that actually makes that redundant. Gail Thrift: Yeah, Janet Dickens: Mm, does actually, Emily Cashen: Cool. Gail Thrift: I think Janet Dickens: yeah, Gail Thrift: so too. Yeah, and Janet Dickens: yeah. Gail Thrift: especially for making them so like Janet Dickens: Mm Gail Thrift: different Janet Dickens: different Patricia Douglas: Yeah, Gail Thrift: and Janet Dickens: to feel, Patricia Douglas: yeah. Janet Dickens: yeah, yeah. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: And the you know, that that solves one of the problems of b of battery life, Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: 'cause that Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: would Janet Dickens: Yep, Patricia Douglas: well that would clobber Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: the battery life, so Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: no, I mean Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: given the nature of the buttons we're having, it's actually uh uh unnecessary I think. Gail Thrift: Yeah. Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Emily Cashen: Are we having it that it's any angle, or is it just Patricia Douglas: As uh as wide Janet Dickens: Yeah. Emily Cashen: As wide Patricia Douglas: cer Emily Cashen: as possible. Patricia Douglas: certainly wider angle than than current, so that if you're holding it, you know, anyway Gail Thrift: Like Janet Dickens: Mm Patricia Douglas: like Gail Thrift: this Patricia Douglas: you're likely Gail Thrift: or like Patricia Douglas: to Gail Thrift: this. Janet Dickens: yeah. Patricia Douglas: and uh it's uh you know, i i it will work most of the time um. Not like my my mum who points it at the ceiling and wonders why the th th the television doesn't work. Um yeah, I mean I d I th I sorta envisaged that if if this was the the thing, then sort of the the whole of the top would be Gail Thrift: Yeah, Patricia Douglas: the Janet Dickens: Mm-hmm. Gail Thrift: kinda Patricia Douglas: uh Gail Thrift: like this Patricia Douglas: the Gail Thrift: whole Patricia Douglas: infrared uh. Janet Dickens: Yeah, mm. Gail Thrift: So Patricia Douglas: Um Gail Thrift: you could use Patricia Douglas: so Gail Thrift: like this and it would go. Janet Dickens: Mm. Patricia Douglas: Yeah, 'cause I mean the r reality is people are they're gonna be looking at the television whilst they're using it, the chances are, so if if Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: they're holding it anyway, the they're reasonably likely to be holding it to use it, then uh Gail Thrift: Yeah. Patricia Douglas: then that that's the sort of coverage that we want. Um okay, d we're all clear Janet Dickens: Yep, Gail Thrift: Yep. Janet Dickens: sounds good. Patricia Douglas: where we go from here. Emily Cashen: Mm-hmm. Patricia Douglas: Okay, so thank you very much indeed Janet Dickens: 'Kay. Patricia Douglas: and I'll s see you all again in thirty minutes. Gail Thrift: Okay. Janet Dickens: 'Kay.

Patricia Douglas opens the meeting by recapping the discussions of the previous meeting, telling the group this meeting's agenda, and stating what each person will do for the next meeting. Then Janet Dickens talks about the components design and explains exactly what remotes do and how they operate. He also talks about batteries and chips. The interface specialist present research from the internet about user interface. He talks about minimizing the clutter on the remote, and suggests using a slide button like on a mouse. Emily Cashen presents, talking about trend-watching and how fruits and vegetables are currently an important theme. They talk about making changable colors available and possibly including batteries with them. They discuss what the remote should look like in terms of shape color, and then talk about components, materials, and energy sources. Then they close the meeting.

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Elizabeth Blackburn: Right well. Welcome to the what should be the last of these meetings and uh it looks like we've uh done a good job here and uh we'll just go through the the final uh the final details. Um okay, oh the um th the the minutes of the last meeting uh I think we'll take those as read, um Okay the um th the the next uh thing we we we'll have a look at the uh th have a look at the prototypes and uh look at the uh evaluation and finance and then uh uh just tidy up with production and um and then we can close. Um So f if if you'd like to uh present your your proposals. Barbara Boedeker: Uh okay we basically have the same kinda here it's just um you hold it like this and it gets kinda moulded to the to the shape of your hand, basically. Um on the left we've got the scroll for the volume, on the right we have buttons for the channels up and down and that kinda so you can hold it and scroll, or you can hold it and and push. Uh this is the power key, um it's kinda like the biggest Elizabeth Blackburn: Uh-huh. Barbara Boedeker: Uh that's the little menu key. This is the infra-red section so you g it'll be sending rays and if you're you know pointing it like that it can send it, Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep, Barbara Boedeker: or if you hold it up Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah, Barbara Boedeker: like that it'll send Elizabeth Blackburn: good, Barbara Boedeker: it. Elizabeth Blackburn: good. Barbara Boedeker: Uh we got a microphone there which for all the voice commands so you can Elizabeth Blackburn: Uh-huh. Barbara Boedeker: you know talk to it like that and it'll still Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep, Barbara Boedeker: understand. Elizabeth Blackburn: right. Barbara Boedeker: Um the logo is down down there Elizabeth Blackburn: Uh-huh. Noelle Lara: Mm. Barbara Boedeker: um Noelle Lara: S Barbara Boedeker: and has the cover on it and you can see like it just kinda goes the red bit's the cover and it kinda goes over everything Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep, Barbara Boedeker: and then there's holes Elizabeth Blackburn: yep, Barbara Boedeker: for the buttons to Elizabeth Blackburn: mm-hmm. Barbara Boedeker: come through. Um. Noelle Lara: And so we figured it be of you know light, just Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Noelle Lara: kind Elizabeth Blackburn: Uh-huh. Noelle Lara: of a light Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep yep. Noelle Lara: non-descript grey so that people'll wanna buy the covers Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep. Noelle Lara: and then the covers will be that sort of rubbery material like they make iPod covers, so they kinda just stretch over. Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: showing Jennifer Gray age, I don't know what i c iPod covers are like. Noelle Lara: Yeah, well I Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah Noelle Lara: I didn't know that but Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah. Noelle Lara: yeah they're kind of it's just kind of a rubbery Elizabeth Blackburn: Uh-huh. Noelle Lara: and that way Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Noelle Lara: you know spongy Elizabeth Blackburn: Okay, Noelle Lara: like is something that people Elizabeth Blackburn: yep, Noelle Lara: wanted Elizabeth Blackburn: right. Noelle Lara: and it just sort of stretches over and Barbara Boedeker: Mm-hmm. Noelle Lara: that way I think probably helps protect it a little bit too as well Barbara Boedeker: But Noelle Lara: and Barbara Boedeker: it's also Elizabeth Blackburn: Okay. Barbara Boedeker: e e easier to put on versus like mobile covers you actually have to screw them on and stuff and you kinda sometimes have to get someone to do that for you. This is very much you should be Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep. Barbara Boedeker: able Noelle Lara: just Barbara Boedeker: to stretch Noelle Lara: kinda Barbara Boedeker: it over Noelle Lara: stretch it Barbara Boedeker: yourself Noelle Lara: over Barbara Boedeker: and it'll be fine. Elizabeth Blackburn: Okay, Noelle Lara: and Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: good Noelle Lara: it'll just stay Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah. Noelle Lara: on and then the Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Noelle Lara: buttons come through and so and then the each one of 'em on the very end will have the logo with the yellow Elizabeth Blackburn: Yep, Noelle Lara: circle Elizabeth Blackburn: right. Noelle Lara: and the R_R_. Barbara Boedeker: Li that'll be the covers as well, Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah, Barbara Boedeker: yeah Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah. Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: I mean tha it's it's a detailed point, I just wondered I mean h how will people put these down I wonder? Noelle Lara: Like that. Elizabeth Blackburn: Right. Okay for some strange re reason I had it in my mind that they'd put them Barbara Boedeker: Yeah Elizabeth Blackburn: down Barbara Boedeker: it could Elizabeth Blackburn: vertically Barbara Boedeker: stand, Elizabeth Blackburn: but Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Noelle Lara: Oh. Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Barbara Boedeker: Well we could broaden the broaden it out a bit so it would stand Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah, Barbara Boedeker: like Elizabeth Blackburn: uh no Barbara Boedeker: that. Elizabeth Blackburn: because particularly if they've dif if they're gonna have it as a you know as a fashion item Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Barbara Boedeker: standing. Elizabeth Blackburn: I mean it it's uh it it's just I mean it's just a minor detailed point, but um as you say you can just make the base a little bit bigger Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: and Barbara Boedeker: we could Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Barbara Boedeker: just widen it out uh Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah and uh it just needs another uh another logo somewhere is is is is all it gives gives people the option Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: and if if say if they've got them Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: um because actually have several upon the uh Jennifer Gray: Could have one for your Barbara Boedeker: Mm, Jennifer Gray: stereo, one Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah, Barbara Boedeker: yeah, Noelle Lara: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: well. Jennifer Gray: your D_V_ Barbara Boedeker: Have Jennifer Gray: player. Barbara Boedeker: to if we just lengthen Noelle Lara: Yeah, Barbara Boedeker: it I guess so it comes Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah Noelle Lara: just Barbara Boedeker: down Noelle Lara: kind Barbara Boedeker: to the Elizabeth Blackburn: but Barbara Boedeker: base Elizabeth Blackburn: that Noelle Lara: of Barbara Boedeker: of Elizabeth Blackburn: that's Barbara Boedeker: the hand and then Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Barbara Boedeker: flatten Elizabeth Blackburn: but Barbara Boedeker: it out Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Barbara Boedeker: and Elizabeth Blackburn: no Barbara Boedeker: could Elizabeth Blackburn: the Barbara Boedeker: sit there. Elizabeth Blackburn: the the overall Noelle Lara: Or Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Noelle Lara: just make Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Noelle Lara: it little. Elizabeth Blackburn: the Barbara Boedeker: mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: overall concept is uh Noelle Lara: Somewhere Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Noelle Lara: like that Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah yeah, Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: no no, I mean that's Noelle Lara: so it just Elizabeth Blackburn: these Noelle Lara: sort Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Noelle Lara: of Barbara Boedeker: We might Jennifer Gray: Yeah I kinda Barbara Boedeker: have to Jennifer Gray: had Barbara Boedeker: lengthen Jennifer Gray: a Barbara Boedeker: it so it kinda your Jennifer Gray: a kinda Barbara Boedeker: hand still Jennifer Gray: a natural Barbara Boedeker: holds it and have Jennifer Gray: kind Noelle Lara: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: it Jennifer Gray: of Barbara Boedeker: there, Jennifer Gray: a idea where Barbara Boedeker: yeah, Jennifer Gray: it's like Barbara Boedeker: yeah, yeah Jennifer Gray: more Barbara Boedeker: like Jennifer Gray: of Barbara Boedeker: that, Jennifer Gray: a kind Barbara Boedeker: like Jennifer Gray: of Barbara Boedeker: that. Jennifer Gray: like Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Noelle Lara: Bu Jennifer Gray: a kinda maybe slightly like thinner, yeah, kinda Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Jennifer Gray: like that kinda like a flower Elizabeth Blackburn: But uh Jennifer Gray: or a plant Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Jennifer Gray: for Elizabeth Blackburn: but Jennifer Gray: the more Elizabeth Blackburn: no Jennifer Gray: natural Elizabeth Blackburn: th but Jennifer Gray: kinda Elizabeth Blackburn: the yeah the the the Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it it's uh Noelle Lara: fall Elizabeth Blackburn: wouldn't Barbara Boedeker: The final Noelle Lara: over. Barbara Boedeker: product Elizabeth Blackburn: wouldn't do Barbara Boedeker: would Elizabeth Blackburn: that, Barbara Boedeker: actually Elizabeth Blackburn: indeed Barbara Boedeker: stand Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah. Barbara Boedeker: up, yeah. Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: But th th but th yeah th b the these were all minor minor Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: uh minor Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: details, I think the uh the basic Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: concept Noelle Lara: 'S a little Elizabeth Blackburn: i i Noelle Lara: longer. Elizabeth Blackburn: is is absolutely bang on Barbara Boedeker: Wee Elizabeth Blackburn: and the i it certainly meets our criteria of being uh Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: of you know looking different. Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: Um, so good that's that that's excellent. Um right let us um What's on the next one? Oh right yes, let's have a look at the um f finance. Um, now we're given a a clear design brief, uh if I get the uh spreadsheet up. Oh. Jennifer Gray: Uh yeah, just click there. Uh the the maximise button. Elizabeth Blackburn: Oh right. Ah. Good, this is why we need to make these things simple so that the uh the the the boss can understand. Now I've um this is the company's uh uh costing for for various uh uh aspects of design and I I I've treated some of these slightly uh liberally given the constraints placed on us, um I wouldn't know for in for instance if if they require us to have it in the corporate colours, then that is not a special colour, that's a that's a standard colour. Uh, so we're just simply on batteries, the the one th the one decision I've had to make is that um we're we will have to find a s a regular standard chip to to do this with and I I um I'm I'm I'm certain that they they are around so, um that I don't think is a a serious problem. The uh the the voice sensor is is expensive but we we made a a basic decision that that was absolutely fundamental to the to the design so that that has to stay. Um then again the the the the shape of the case means that it's it's expensive to uh um l to make 'cause of the the th the double curves but on the other hand because of our overall fashion concept um we we should exceed the the sales targets. Um it's simply made of plastic so th that's uh that's no problem and uh um just because the whole the colour of the the whole thing that's uh uh there's some cost there. Um and uh we haven't actually got a scroll wheel we we we got push buttons and and a simple uh um slider so um and the and the the buttons are uh uh well I do don't know that they're special colour. Anyway the the costings uh come in at exactly on target at twelve point five uh but I thi I think we have a a very strong case to argue that uh what what we've got is is so in innovative and uh and different that um any any slight compromise we have to make on on cost is is offset by the uh you know the uh you know the the Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: the the concept of it being a a fashion accessory and and having the the interchangeable covers so uh um you know the if if Elizabeth Blackburn: they have to accept that we we can't operate absolutely Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: within uh the constraints that they give, so uh we we we present this as the uh the company's uh the the company's way forward and uh uh I I think we can argue that we we have uh come in on on budget. Um. Okay, uh. So um. Does anybody want to uh uh Andrew do you want what do you want to say about um the uh Jennifer Gray: Evaluation. Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah the evaluation where where you know well where where we're where where we're at? Jennifer Gray: The the product or the project? Elizabeth Blackburn: The the the well the I meant the product. Jennifer Gray: Um, well well my presentation just now Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Jennifer Gray: Sure? uh can I get the Elizabeth Blackburn: Oh sorry yeah um, mm. Jennifer Gray: Cheers. Elizabeth Blackburn: Mm. More loud clicks in the microphone. Jennifer Gray: There we go, oh. Method of evaluation testing the product was to just if it met all the criteria all the conditions that we set out to set out to solve, from the point of view of the the consumer and the management. So what I've been asked to do is, on the whiteboard um gauge our team response to these questions. So, on a scale of one to seven, one being true and seven being being false. Elizabeth Blackburn: Seven being a nice round number to work to. Jennifer Gray: Yeah. And then at the end just take an average Elizabeth Blackburn: Tr On for true and seven for flase. Jennifer Gray: Yes. Elizabeth Blackburn: Yes. Jennifer Gray: So uh. Jennifer Gray: So, look at these questions. Is the device f flashy and fashionable? Elizabeth Blackburn: Well I think most Barbara Boedeker: Yeah Noelle Lara: I Elizabeth Blackburn: definitely. Noelle Lara: think Barbara Boedeker: I'd Noelle Lara: it Barbara Boedeker: say Noelle Lara: is yeah. Barbara Boedeker: definitely a one yeah. Jennifer Gray: So uh and also uh technologically innovative? Elizabeth Blackburn: Yes Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: the Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: voice technology Barbara Boedeker: defi yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: indeed. Barbara Boedeker: yeah Jennifer Gray: Easy to use? Elizabeth Blackburn: I don't see Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: we could've Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: made it any easier. Jennifer Gray: Uh suitable for the consumer? That was um Elizabeth Blackburn: Totally. Barbara Boedeker: Yeah definitely. Noelle Lara: Yeah I think it made we met all of the consumer Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Jennifer Gray: Yeah. Noelle Lara: wants. Jennifer Gray: Uh is it complicated? Elizabeth Blackburn: No. Noelle Lara: No. Jennifer Gray: Doing pretty well so far aren't we? Uh functional? Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: Yeah Noelle Lara: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: definitely. Jennifer Gray: Um. Where are we? Elizabeth Blackburn: found easily. Jennifer Gray: We've b Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah I mean Jennifer Gray: built in the Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Jennifer Gray: the speech, Elizabeth Blackburn: that's Jennifer Gray: where Elizabeth Blackburn: that's Jennifer Gray: are Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Jennifer Gray: you, Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Jennifer Gray: function. Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: mm-hmm. Jennifer Gray: Uh-huh. Elizabeth Blackburn: Does it take long to learn to use? Shouldn't. Barbara Boedeker: No, not at Jennifer Gray: Mm-hmm. Barbara Boedeker: all. Jennifer Gray: And uh, what else? The R_S_I_ compares to the current standards, well. Elizabeth Blackburn: Less buttons Barbara Boedeker: Uh Elizabeth Blackburn: so it must be. Jennifer Gray: We we uh yeah it Barbara Boedeker: Yeah Jennifer Gray: was our it was a we made Barbara Boedeker: it Jennifer Gray: an Barbara Boedeker: is Jennifer Gray: actual effort Barbara Boedeker: sorta Jennifer Gray: to Barbara Boedeker: the the handle more ergonomically correct as well. Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: So yeah, Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: um um. Jennifer Gray: Um will device appeal to all age groups? Elizabeth Blackburn: I think it will Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: because Noelle Lara: I think so. Elizabeth Blackburn: I mean uh old older people who can't manage the buttons anyway will actually probably Jennifer Gray: Yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: like the like Jennifer Gray: uh Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Jennifer Gray: that's a good call, yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: like the voice bit Jennifer Gray: Well Elizabeth Blackburn: so Jennifer Gray: we had the we had the data saying that old people will be less likely to pay extra money but the funct the increased functionality, the e ease of use of the device might make up for that. Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: And it's it's it's well I don't think we're actually charging a particular premium anyway, in Barbara Boedeker: I Elizabeth Blackburn: the Jennifer Gray: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: end, Barbara Boedeker: I I think Elizabeth Blackburn: so Barbara Boedeker: it Noelle Lara: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: will tend to appeal more to younger aged groups just 'cause we have gone with the fashion Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: focus and the younger Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Barbara Boedeker: people tend to would be more conscious of that aspect of it, but um I think it should still appeal on a certain level Elizabeth Blackburn: It will appeal Barbara Boedeker: to everybody, Elizabeth Blackburn: f for dif for Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: different reasons Noelle Lara: Yeah Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Noelle Lara: I Elizabeth Blackburn: but Noelle Lara: think Elizabeth Blackburn: it's Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Noelle Lara: just Elizabeth Blackburn: it's Noelle Lara: the Elizabeth Blackburn: uh Noelle Lara: simplicity of Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Noelle Lara: it Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah Barbara Boedeker: yeah. Noelle Lara: and Elizabeth Blackburn: yeah so I I yeah I Noelle Lara: not having to learn to programme and not having you Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah, Noelle Lara: know a Elizabeth Blackburn: so Noelle Lara: million buttons. Barbara Boedeker: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: I think we can reasonably say it's another Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: another one, why not? Jennifer Gray: Uh can you just click the my mouse to move onto next page? Uh, yeah and what h did we make the management's Elizabeth Blackburn: in in in in my interpretation of management's instructions uh is that yes it it meets the requirement is t it's television Barbara Boedeker: Yep. Elizabeth Blackburn: only, it's Barbara Boedeker: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Blackburn: it's simple to use, um it's Noelle Lara: Under Elizabeth Blackburn: it's Noelle Lara: the cost. Elizabeth Blackburn: it's within Barbara Boedeker: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Blackburn: budget, Barbara Boedeker: Yep. Elizabeth Blackburn: um I it's uh yes an an any minor points we we we argue. Jennifer Gray: Um. Elizabeth Blackburn: So uh I I think we've Barbara Boedeker: Yep. Elizabeth Blackburn: done an amazing job in uh Jennifer Gray: Okay. Barbara Boedeker: Well done us. Elizabeth Blackburn: coming up with what Jennifer Gray: So uh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven. Eleven divided by eleven's one so Noelle Lara: Yeah, Jennifer Gray: equals average of one. Elizabeth Blackburn: Need a need a calculator for that. Jennifer Gray: And that roughly concludes my evaluation of the Barbara Boedeker: Excellent. Elizabeth Blackburn: Okay, Jennifer Gray: of the product. Elizabeth Blackburn: nick Noelle Lara: I Elizabeth Blackburn: the Noelle Lara: mixed Elizabeth Blackburn: cable Noelle Lara: up the colours Elizabeth Blackburn: back Barbara Boedeker: Oh Elizabeth Blackburn: then. Barbara Boedeker: no Noelle Lara: a little bit. Barbara Boedeker: that's Noelle Lara: I think I all Elizabeth Blackburn: Ooh. Noelle Lara: wrong. Elizabeth Blackburn: Right do um either of you want to uh say anything? Barbara Boedeker: Uh. Elizabeth Blackburn: Mm. Noelle Lara: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: Before I uh Noelle Lara: Ps I don't think so, I mean Elizabeth Blackburn: No. Noelle Lara: I think we worked well together and Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Noelle Lara: looked really at what the consumers wanted and what we Elizabeth Blackburn: Yeah. Noelle Lara: were trying to make and you know, seemed to discuss things pretty well and Barbara Boedeker: Mm-hmm. Noelle Lara: come to group consensus and Elizabeth Blackburn: Well that's right, I mean th this this slide here I mean the satisfaction with uh room for creativity, Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: I mean I think Barbara Boedeker: Yeah, Elizabeth Blackburn: we've allowed Barbara Boedeker: definitely. Elizabeth Blackburn: ourselves uh as much creativity as the uh the the the product Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: uh allows. Um I won't comment on leadership, uh teamwork I think we've uh I think everybody's uh Barbara Boedeker: Mm-hmm. Elizabeth Blackburn: worked pretty well together. Um we've just about coped with the whiteboard and digital pens, uh I think the results speak Barbara Boedeker: Mm. Elizabeth Blackburn: for itself and new ideas found, um, again gi no given relatively everyday product, Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: I think Barbara Boedeker: Yep. Elizabeth Blackburn: we've v very uh very effectively come up with a a new uh uh a new approach. Um are the costs within budget? Yes. Is the project evaluated? We're Barbara Boedeker: Yep. Elizabeth Blackburn: we're all happy that it it meets all the criteria, um Thank you very much indeed, Barbara Boedeker: Cool, Elizabeth Blackburn: I think Barbara Boedeker: thank Noelle Lara: Alright. Barbara Boedeker: you, Elizabeth Blackburn: that I think that's uh Noelle Lara: Yeah. Elizabeth Blackburn: I think we can go f for an early bath. So I call the meeting closed. Noelle Lara: Okay. Elizabeth Blackburn: Not sure how far ahead of schedule we were there.

Elizabeth Blackburn opens the meeting by stating the agenda. Then Barbara Boedeker and interface specialist present the prototype, showing where they placed each button, function, and the company logo. Then they talk about the material they chose, which is light gray colored and light weight plastic so that people will want to buy covers. Next they take a brief look at the finance by examining the materials used, chip required, shape, and color. They are exactly on target at twelve point five. Next Jennifer Gray administers the product evaluation, and the group talks about whether the device is flashy and fashionable, technologically innovative, easy to use, suitable for the consumer, complicated, how long it would take to learn to use it, and its appeal to all age groups. They come up with an average of 1 for the evaluation. They briefly discuss the project process and agree that they worked well together, had excellent teamwork, and created an effective product that meets the budget cost. They close the meeting by thanking one another.

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Sheila Collins: Is this okay? Regena Miniard: Uh yeah. Fine now. Regena Miniard: Oh, it's not liking us, it went that-a-way. Computer adjusting. Oh. Uh. Regena Miniard: Okay. So. Right. Regena Miniard: You ready back there? Uh okay. Welcome everyone. Um this is the kick-off meeting for the day. Um we're the new group uh to create a new remote control for Real Reaction. As you can see our agenda is to open up the meeting, um become acquainted with each other, um have a little training on tools, uh create a plan, discuss things and and we only have twenty minut twenty five minutes total. Okay. The new remote control is to be original, trendy and user-friendly. That, Steph, is your part, is the user-friendliness. The originality um is gonna take all of us. Um the trendiness we'll probably go look at for some marketing research information from you, Sarah. Um and we'll get on with it. Okay, so we'll have a functional design individual work um with meeting and then conceptual design t and then detailed design. Okay? Right. Everybody's supposed to try out the whiteboard. Kate, why don't you try it first, if you can either Helen Valle: Uh yeah, if Regena Miniard: bring Helen Valle: I Regena Miniard: your things with Helen Valle: pick with Regena Miniard: you, I Helen Valle: all Regena Miniard: guess Helen Valle: these bits and pieces, hang on. Regena Miniard: And while you're doing that we'll try and figure out how to hook these things on as well, 'cause we're all gonna have to be able to walk around. Helen Valle: Uh right, so you want an animal and the characteristics of that animal. Do you have to be able to recognise what animal it is? Regena Miniard: Uh I do not think so, I think it's just to try out the whiteboard. Helen Valle: Um Shaina Greenlaw: Are we all gonna draw a cat? Sheila Collins: I know. Helen Valle: Only animal I could thin I could draw. Regena Miniard: Ah. Helen Valle: Its a sort of bunny rabbit cat. You can tell it's not a bunny rabbit by the ears. Regena Miniard: Uh-huh. Helen Valle: Um I suppose it should have a mouth as well, sort of Regena Miniard: Okay. Helen Valle: Right, yeah. Regena Miniard: Great. And the characteristics? Helen Valle: Um the favourite characteristics of the cat um the whiskers I think, um because they're the easiest to draw. Regena Miniard: Uh-huh. Helen Valle: In fact, I'll give it some more Oh, Regena Miniard: Okay. Helen Valle: and the tail Regena Miniard: Fantastic. Since you're handy as well, why don't you do yours next, Steph. Regena Miniard: I think it's to get us used to using the pen. Helen Valle: Yes. Um sure it's not to test our artistic Regena Miniard: Uh no. Helen Valle: It's a mouse. Regena Miniard: A mouse-y? Shaina Greenlaw: That's not a mouse-y, no. Helen Valle: No it's not a mouse. It's a wombat. Regena Miniard: Oh. Shaina Greenlaw: It's a ratty. Regena Miniard: Argh. Helen Valle: A what? Shaina Greenlaw: A Regena Miniard: Rat. Shaina Greenlaw: ratty. Regena Miniard: Not a mouse, Helen Valle: A Regena Miniard: a Helen Valle: webbed Regena Miniard: rat. Helen Valle: foot. Webbed f Shaina Greenlaw: It's clothes. That's Helen Valle: Oh Shaina Greenlaw: it's clothes. Helen Valle: right. Shaina Greenlaw: It's a ratty with a with a with a very long tail. Regena Miniard: And your Shaina Greenlaw: I love Regena Miniard: favourite Shaina Greenlaw: whiskers. Regena Miniard: characteristics of that animal. Shaina Greenlaw: Uh they're intelligent and they're cheeky and uh fantastic pets and very Regena Miniard: Oh. Shaina Greenlaw: friendly. Regena Miniard: Okay. Shaina Greenlaw: And Regena Miniard: Kate? Shaina Greenlaw: they sit on your shoulder and whisper the answers to your homework in your ear when you're doing your homework. Sheila Collins: Thanks. Regena Miniard: Oh, a fish. Shaina Greenlaw: A shark? Helen Valle: Gosh, why didn't I think of fish? That's even easier to draw than cat. Sheila Collins: Mm this is very representational fish. Regena Miniard: Oh, okay. Fine. Sheila Collins: Um I like Regena Miniard: Favourite Sheila Collins: them Regena Miniard: characteristics? Sheila Collins: because they're sleek and they have a lot of freedom but they also do n uh swim in groups, so. Regena Miniard: 'Kay. So Sheila Collins: Do Regena Miniard: they Sheila Collins: you Regena Miniard: have Sheila Collins: have a favourite Regena Miniard: team Sheila Collins: one? Regena Miniard: elements. I'm afraid I'm with Steph. And I think your pen's running out of whatever. But I'm afraid I take the coward's way out, and the cat's looking the other way. He's hiding. Um cats are sometimes very independent. My parents had cats. Uh and they can mm decide for themselves what is best. Okay. Now um we have to get down to the nitty-gritty of how to make this and this remote control has to be sold um we're to sell it for twenty five Euros, with a profit aim ultimately of fifty million Euros. That tells you something about how many um we have to sell on an international scale. Um would be an awful lot of these, would be like what, a hundred million of them um to make twenty five Euros on each one and to make a total profit of fifty million. Um the production is to only cost twelve and a half Euros per item. Now if they cost twelve and a half, you're selling it for twenty five, you're making twelve and a half Euros each. Um and we're to make a profit of fifty million, that's t uh can you do the maths and how many are we selling? Sheila Collins: Uh yeah. I was just wondering if that's the um If fifty percent is normal Regena Miniard: Mark-up? Sheila Collins: B yeah. Um I would think would be more like sixty percent. But um Regena Miniard: Okay. Sheila Collins: let Sheila Collins I have two thoughts. fifty percent. And and your question is how many do we have to sell? Regena Miniard: Yes, 'cause our market um is international and your problem is has to do with marketing of you know, you gotta know how many we're going Sheila Collins: At twenty Regena Miniard: to be selling Sheila Collins: five. Regena Miniard: to know how big a market you have to target Sheila Collins: Mm-hmm. Regena Miniard: and who is that. Sheila Collins: Yeah, that's um Regena Miniard: To give you a pretty good idea of where you're looking. Sheila Collins: So that's four million of them? Regena Miniard: Something like that? Okay. Sheila Collins: Yeah. Regena Miniard: That's fifty million Euros. In order Sheila Collins: And if Regena Miniard: to make Sheila Collins: we make Regena Miniard: fifty million Euros, and you're only getting twelve and a half each Sheila Collins: Mm-hmm. Regena Miniard: That's a lot of selling. Sheila Collins: Yeah. Regena Miniard: Two four Sheila Collins: Four million. Regena Miniard: To be fifty, be four million. You'd have to sell four million. Sheila Collins: Hmm. Regena Miniard: Okay? Right. Experience with a remote control. Any of you use of remote control for a television or D_V_D_ or something? Helen Valle: That Regena Miniard: You're Sheila Collins: Yeah. Regena Miniard: both Helen Valle: that that's Regena Miniard: nodding, Helen Valle: the sorta Regena Miniard: all Helen Valle: product Regena Miniard: three. Helen Valle: we're talking about, one that will work for a in a home environment, for a Regena Miniard: Well Helen Valle: T_V_s and Regena Miniard: I've seen some remote controls that are for more than one device at a time, but I also have heard about them not working well or not well co-ordinated and you wind up working with this one for thi this three and then this Shaina Greenlaw: It Regena Miniard: one Shaina Greenlaw: is Regena Miniard: over here Shaina Greenlaw: true Regena Miniard: for another. Shaina Greenlaw: you know, you're sitting on your sofa and you wanna change something, there's five different remotes, and one for the D_V_D_ and one for the video and one Sheila Collins: Mm-hmm. Shaina Greenlaw: for cable and one for Sheila Collins: Y yeah. Shaina Greenlaw: whatever Regena Miniard: And they don't Shaina Greenlaw: else. Regena Miniard: always Shaina Greenlaw: But I presume Regena Miniard: talk to Shaina Greenlaw: this Regena Miniard: each Shaina Greenlaw: is Regena Miniard: other. Shaina Greenlaw: t I presume this is just for television. Regena Miniard: Don't know. Okay. Are there any um ideas for the remote? What would it be for and what group would be be for? We have to think about that one. Sheila Collins: We could make a Hello Kitty themed remote. Shaina Greenlaw: I think one in b bright colours would be good. Sheila Collins: Yeah. We Helen Valle: I Sheila Collins: could Helen Valle: think Sheila Collins: totally Helen Valle: one that works Sheila Collins: go for Helen Valle: would Sheila Collins: the Helen Valle: be good. Sheila Collins: Japan-a-mation. Well I mean there's also the cachet that um uh the Japanese make great products. Electrical their industrial design is very good. Shaina Greenlaw: I think one that doesn't have lots of superfluous functions. Like I've got one at home that has well, apart from the obvious, channels, channel up, channel down, volume, Sheila Collins: Yeah. Shaina Greenlaw: you know, subtitles, mute, there's a lotta buttons that I've got no idea what they do, like. Sheila Collins: Well, that's a really good point, because I think Regena Miniard: Okay. Sheila Collins: one of the things that being somewhat computer literate, we tend to um go to menus and then make choices, you know, so if it's like an uh volume button, you know, you can go in and say mute or or volume. We don't need to have like the l the numbers if we also have uh Shaina Greenlaw: Mm. Sheila Collins: uh channel up channel down. Regena Miniard: Mm. Sheila Collins: Mm. Regena Miniard: Okay. Sheila Collins: We can make it smart like an iPod, you know, make everything menus. Shaina Greenlaw: Ooh, closing the meeting. Regena Miniard: Yeah. Um Shaina Greenlaw: That was quick. Regena Miniard: I know this sounds like it was very quick, but the I think that's the industrial design Helen Valle: Mm. Regena Miniard: is the first one, that's Kate, Helen Valle: Mm-hmm. Regena Miniard: for the working design. And user, that's you S Steph, for the technical functions design, and for marketing the user requirements specification. I think there's going to be a lot of we have to help each other and work through this as a group, and I think we all, you know, we like our kitty-cat and our rat and our fish, but I think we all have to like each other um to get this done. says, we're gonna get individual instructions, but uh I don't think they allowed a lot of extra time, so I think a little bit of less of this and more at do will set us in good stead. Do you all agree? Shaina Greenlaw: Mm-hmm. Helen Valle: Mm-hmm. Regena Miniard: Alright. Um then I don't see any reason to prolong it and f we should finish this meeting at ni right now and go into other things. Alright, so this is the end of the first meeting. Sheila Collins: Okay. Helen Valle: 'Kay. Regena Miniard: Thank you all.

Regena Miniard opened the meeting by stating the agenda and then introduced the upcoming project to the team members. The team members then participated in an exercise in which they each drew their favorite animal and discussed why they liked the particular animal. Regena Miniard briefed the team on the production and selling costs of the remote they are to create. Regena Miniard also briefed the team on the profit aim and discussed how many remotes must be sold in order to reach the profit aim of 50 million Euro. The team then discussed their experiences using remote controls and what features in terms of functionality and appearance to consider in making the remote.

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Leigh Badger: Uh it fell off. One, two, three, four, yeah, we're ready. Okay. Welcome to this second meeting. Um it's now quarter after twelve and we're given forty minutes um for this meeting. This is a meeting on functional design. Um and I wanna welcome you all and thank you all for doing some research in between. Um I did took the minutes from the first meeting and I'll show them to you in a moment. Um I know each of you have a presentation and in thinking about the forty minutes, I thought it would take only like three minutes for the previous minutes, um each of you having about seven minutes or maybe a little more, maybe a little less for your pre presentations and a little discussion, because there's I happen to have been told there were some new project requirements and we have to make some uh decision on what functions it will have. Okay? Is this Dorothy Dubray: Yes. Leigh Badger: ap Carly Clark: Oops. Leigh Badger: everybody agree with this? Betty Rodriguez: Yes. Leigh Badger: Okay. Um and after the meeting there'll be things to be done and as you can see it says we get to get lunch, um and then some more individual work and then putting minutes away and individual actions. Um but uh now for the minutes of the first meeting. And go to that one. Um as you can see it was this earlier today. Um Kate, Steph, Sarah and myself in our four capacities were present. I opened the meeting, the product was developed uh and reviewed, and we talked about the financial end of it. Um and it had some implications, um the four million sales target and new ideas of not too many buttons, bright colours and some of the influence of the Japanese. And we closed early so you could then proceed with your research and getting your reports together for tod this meeting Anybody have any questions on those minutes? Are they complete, did they discuss everything that we covered last time? 'Kay. Carly Clark: Uh I think Leigh Badger: Did I miss Carly Clark: so, Leigh Badger: something? Carly Clark: we we we about the the individual roles that we each had as well. Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Leigh Badger: Yeah. I'm afraid I incorporated that when I said who was present, but Carly Clark: Okay. Leigh Badger: yes, we did, and we did a little bit of uh team building of uh of making the pictures, but I didn't think those were appropriate to the minutes necessarily. So um as a group I think we've are they're accepting the minutes. Betty Rodriguez: Okay, Leigh Badger: And Betty Rodriguez: I Leigh Badger: uh Betty Rodriguez: the. Leigh Badger: okay. Betty Rodriguez: Is that what we're supposed to say? Leigh Badger: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah, I do. Leigh Badger: Good. Um, then we'll move to the three presentations. Okay? Betty Rodriguez: Okay. Leigh Badger: Okay. Mm we need to move this. Who wants to go f first? That's as far as it goes. Dorothy Dubray: Uh not really to touch those. Oh it doesn't have any on, does it? That's fine. Betty Rodriguez: Excellent, thank Carly Clark: Oy, Betty Rodriguez: you. Carly Clark: big loop under the table. Leigh Badger: She said we didn't need to screw it in. Betty Rodriguez: Okay. Okay, that looks good. Leigh Badger: It's doing its thing. There we are. Betty Rodriguez: Alright. Thank you very much. Um. One of the the biggest issues I found about um from last meeting was the fact that we need to sell four million of these um remote controls and I think that this is an opportunity really take Real Reaction in the direction of of similar of handheld tools that have been by of us and to kind of bring the control into the si realm as an accessible um useful electronic device, as opposed to something that is lost in the couch and what have you. So um my main goal here is to re-envision the remote control in in this context and to think about menu functionality and current technology and the fact that it could be interactive with other tools. Um some of the research uh in the market has shown that people really are not happy with remote controls as they are now, and um that means we do need to make some decisions about what what keys or or buttons on the on the remote control to perhaps keep and and what ones to discard. And if we devote some energy into this, I think the um recent productions of Real Reaction, the I go everywhere power and the high definition D_V_D_ players although it makes immediate sense to have our remote control interact with these, I think we can also use this as a platform to make it interact with other tools. And um in fact I think the high definition D_V_D_ players and all of this will come along in the uh will only benefit from the positive feedback from our well designed tool. So again, most uh users really dislike the current look and feel of remote controls. Um fifty percent I think of all these uh numbers the most important is fifty percent of user say they only use ten percent of the buttons. And eighty percent of users, and if we think about this there are a lot of uh television, D_V_D_, stereo remote control users out there, eighty percent would spend more money on a remote control that looks fancy. Carly Clark: Could can I ask where these figures come from, is this market Betty Rodriguez: Um Carly Clark: research Betty Rodriguez: it Carly Clark: we've Betty Rodriguez: was market research and there were a hundred people in the room, so eighty out of a hundred said they would spend more money. Leigh Badger: Now Carly Clark: Mm-hmm. Leigh Badger: in between, as Leigh Badger, they sent Betty Rodriguez an email from the powers that be Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Leigh Badger: um that teletext is outdated um and the internet is coming in as important, but that they want this remote control to only be for T_V_ um with incorporating the corporate image, colour and slogan. Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Well I think we can I I think we can really focus on this remote and and again bring the Real Reaction um brand in in and and get some positive marketing for our other tools, even if we directly don't um advertise for the I go everywhere line. Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: So an interesting um element was the would you pay more for speech recognition question. So these market research uh Leigh Badger: Hmm. Betty Rodriguez: uh questionnaires looked into your your uh concern about technology and s specifically wanted to find out information about speech recognition. Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: Now the early adopters, those of us who grew up with technology and uh luck lucky for us have the uh cash to to pay for it, the young age group without the mortgages and responsibilities, ninety one percent of them would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. Very interesting, I I leave this up to the group to decide if we wanna use this uh if and you know, the Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: the designers, but ninety one percent, fifteen Leigh Badger: Is that a Betty Rodriguez: to Leigh Badger: large Betty Rodriguez: twenty Leigh Badger: enough Betty Rodriguez: five Leigh Badger: target market to target it? Betty Rodriguez: Well, I I I think especially in terms of growth, I think this would be a very smart group to target. I mean s three quarters of the next age group, twenty five to thirty five are interested, and uh with the technologies improving, if we can get these uh Leigh Badger: In real numbers, does Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Leigh Badger: the ninety one percent and the seventy six percent translate to ex Betty Rodriguez: To Leigh Badger: in excess of the four million? Betty Rodriguez: Um yes. Leigh Badger: Or eight million. Betty Rodriguez: Yes. But would you pay more and does it work and is it approachable and and did I know that it was Leigh Badger: Hmm. Betty Rodriguez: it was an that's a that's a very good question. Leigh Badger: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: I Carly Clark: Um Betty Rodriguez: don't know if speech recognition should be um should be included, but Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: I think it's an interesting I think that maybe shows more about uh being open to technology. Dorothy Dubray: Uh it definitely Leigh Badger: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: needs uh Betty Rodriguez: Shall Dorothy Dubray: a Betty Rodriguez: I go Dorothy Dubray: lot Betty Rodriguez: back? Dorothy Dubray: more research on like how much more it would be and Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, yeah. Dorothy Dubray: any, you know, existing examples, and what reactions to them have been, Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: and Carly Clark: How d I'm Dorothy Dubray: that sort Carly Clark: wondering Dorothy Dubray: of thing. Carly Clark: how how ou how our target price compares with the the typical price of these things. I expect an Industrial Designer should know that, but if we're aiming to to build this thing for twelve Euros fifty that a lot or a little Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. I mean I I I uh did not receive any information on that, but I think the competition, sussing out what other people are doing and what's in the pipeline is very very important, because um there is a question about do you want an L_C_D_ screen and and that wasn't responded to, but uh some of the larger remotes do have screens where you can navigate, you know, so it turns into something uh perhaps you all have seen uh the Osbournes where Ozzy Osbourne is is attempting to manage his super entertainment system with something that looks like a uh a small tray. You know, it's I a and I Carly Clark: Sh Betty Rodriguez: think, Carly Clark: surely Betty Rodriguez: you know Carly Clark: he's in the wrong age group. He must be w one of a s small population. Betty Rodriguez: No, no, you Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: Kate, you're exactly right there. But I think the key is to get the early adopters, people who are familiar with technology and and uh they'll be Leigh Badger: But we're not looking at whether they're early adopters Betty Rodriguez: Uh, Leigh Badger: on that Betty Rodriguez: mm. Leigh Badger: screen, that's looking Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. Leigh Badger: at age groups. Betty Rodriguez: I yes, Leigh Badger: Leap. Hmm. Betty Rodriguez: you know, um Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: so Leigh Badger: Okay, you had the other power channel. Betty Rodriguez: I think the most important thing is an attractive streamlined remote control and to be extraordinarily reductionist, power, channel, volume and everything else is is uh up to the designers. And this is this is also supported by the market research. Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: Thank you. That's my contribution. Leigh Badger: Alright. And we'll turn to the next presentation. Leigh Badger: I think she said we don't need to screw it in, just stick it in. And then press, what? F F_N_ and F_ eight. Next to the control button on the bottom, and then F_ eight at the top. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah, press Leigh Badger: And Dorothy Dubray: them. Leigh Badger: then w be patient. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah, here we go. Leigh Badger: Tada. Carly Clark: And if you want it to go into slide show mode, it's that little button there. Dorothy Dubray: Can I not just uh do each one in order? Carly Clark: I you can if you like, it it that that just sets it up to do a p a p Leigh Badger: There Dorothy Dubray: That? Leigh Badger: we are. Carly Clark: no that one, that one there. Leigh Badger: Yay. Dorothy Dubray: That? Carly Clark: Left, left a bit, left a bit, Dorothy Dubray: That? Carly Clark: that one, yep. click when you wanna go on. Dorothy Dubray: Right, technical design. Uh well I think first off, basically I do agree with what Sarah has defined as as uh your personal preferences,yeah. I think we need uh a more streamlined volume with no extraneous functions. So my method was to look at the existing remotes and what functions they have. And what we all need to discuss is whether we want these functions uh pretty much the same as what existing remotes have. If we can build on this with the speech recognition, that's not something I'd thought about at all, but it's also something we can discuss. Leigh Badger: Okay. Dorothy Dubray: Um and and I presume we can miss out the functions really to to a video or D_V_D_ remote control, if this is only gonna be a, you Leigh Badger: T_V_ Dorothy Dubray: know, satellite, Leigh Badger: only. Dorothy Dubray: cable, T_V_ remote control. So these are two models of existing remote controls. Uh the one on the left Leigh Badger: Ugh. Dorothy Dubray: seems to be a fairly uh standard universal remote control. It has fast-forward, stop, play, all relating to movies. It also has seems to have channel up and channel down, which is which is more what you'd expect from a, you know, like a Sky or cable remote control Leigh Badger: Hmm. Dorothy Dubray: where you've got hundreds of channels instead of a merely terrestrial one. Uh but I think we should be looking more along the lines of the one on the right, which has it also has play, stop and pause and everything, I don't think we need them at all. I think we just need channel selection, volume up, volume down and I think an an enter function where you can access it's not like teletext, but along the same lines, access things on the screen. Uh not related to the internet one that you mentioned, because that'd be far outside our budget and what we want this to do. Leigh Badger: Mm. And Dorothy Dubray: So Leigh Badger: exceed Dorothy Dubray: it Leigh Badger: the requirements they're expecting Dorothy Dubray: really exceed Leigh Badger: of Dorothy Dubray: the Leigh Badger: us. Dorothy Dubray: requirements, 'cause the requirements really are just want to be able to change channels and functions, which is more a text on the screen thing than uh Leigh Badger: Okay. Dorothy Dubray: than actual buttons o I was thinking something some smooth, sleek, little remote control with Leigh Badger: Alright. Dorothy Dubray: big user-friendly buttons and uh a menu that you can access. Uh but then I do think we need to discuss the speech um recognition possibility. Leigh Badger: Okay. Any uh thing else you wanna Dorothy Dubray: No. Leigh Badger: add? Okay. Dorothy Dubray: But we could go back to the pictures of the uh, what're they called? The pictures of the remote controls and possibly discuss what we think about them, Betty Rodriguez: Or if Dorothy Dubray: but maybe should hear what Kate has to say Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: first. Leigh Badger: Yeah. Let's hear what Kate has to say. Dorothy Dubray: Okay Betty Rodriguez: Maybe Dorothy Dubray: then. Betty Rodriguez: afterwards we could do a uh whiteboard with that your the one on the right as a as a basis. Leigh Badger: Hmm. Betty Rodriguez: Whiteboard session. Leigh Badger: I think the white that one on the right is, as well as less cluttered, Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: Definitely less cluttered and I mean but still it's Sorry Leigh Badger: It's Dorothy Dubray: I Leigh Badger: there Dorothy Dubray: was just Leigh Badger: but Dorothy Dubray: I'll Leigh Badger: it's Dorothy Dubray: just uh resume something else I was gonna say. The the style of these is terrible. Leigh Badger: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: I I I really think we need to uh not only possibly even materials, like the type of plastic used, but everything including size and shape of buttons, positioning of buttons, the actual shape of the hand-held device, colours, Betty Rodriguez: The ergonomics, Dorothy Dubray: just Betty Rodriguez: the way it fits Leigh Badger: Hmm. Dorothy Dubray: every Betty Rodriguez: in your Dorothy Dubray: e yeah, everything to do with this has to be Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: revolutionised. But So that's that for now. Carly Clark: Cheers. Carly Clark: Mm, I haven't actually got a display on Leigh Badger: Okay. Carly Clark: my screen. Still, I'll do without that. Okay um, now I wanna bring us down to earth again I'm afraid and talk about the actual practicalities of how the thing needs to work. Um oh and this is the methodology I used in preparing for this meeting. Um basically I've been doing a little bit of web-based research, and if I had a design team, I would've been discussing my ideas with 'em. But the the net result is that I've come up with a first cut for the working design that I'd like to discuss with you. So, let's go back to what the basic function of a remote control is. It's for sending a message, um typically um via infrared. And the the basic components we've got to build in for our twelve Euros fifty are um an energy source, the user interface and which will um in incorporate um an integrated circuit that actually composes the message um based on what the which buttons the user presses, we turn that into a message, um and then we need a sending mechanism to send it to the receiver. Now I would have hoped I think that's my only slide actually, yeah. I would have have hoped to um do you a pretty PowerPoint slide of um my first cut design, but unfortunately the technology defeated Betty Rodriguez, so if you'll bear with Betty Rodriguez I'll do it on the whiteboard. So we want an energy source which is there. And we've got to think about what that might be. Uh Leigh Badger: Hmm-mm. Carly Clark: we obviously don't want wires on this thing. Uh typically it would be a battery, but I'm open to suggestions. Um and then we have the the user interface. Oops. And the main components in there are the Carly Clark: the th the chip that actually has the intelligence of the machine that translates button presses into a message, which it then transfers to some sending mechanism, which encodes it Carly Clark: and sends the message to the receiver. So those are the basic things that we've got to get in for our twelve Euros fifty. Thank you. Leigh Badger: Hmm. Okay. Right. But those things as long as we can get those components, the block, that that rectangle for the user interface, is where the user comes in of what what does it look like? What do the buttons look like? Uh what does it feel like? That's where the user interface is really coming into its own. Carly Clark: Mm-hmm. Leigh Badger: The technical end is what's actually gonna be in there, but also it has to be easy enough to change or repair if something goes wrong. For example the battery energy source or um what if the chip, for whatever reason, breaks down after a certain amount of time, do you just replace it? Um is there any um because it may be in the same area with several other user interfaces, like for D_V_D_s, movies, whatever. Leigh Badger: frequency or something? Carly Clark: Well I may be wrong here, but I'd been thinking of this device as being a a cheap mass-produced device. We're trying to sell four million of 'em, Leigh Badger: Mm. Carly Clark: um that's that's, you know, that's almost one in every tenth household or whatever it is. Um and I hadn't thought of it as being a reparable thing, you just if it goes Leigh Badger: Okay. Carly Clark: wrong you chuck it out, and that's why I'm a bit concerned. I like the idea of speech recognition, that's a great idea, but I'm not convinced we can put it into this box for the price that we need gonna need to hit. Betty Rodriguez: Do Dorothy Dubray: Whoop. Betty Rodriguez: we have Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: um ki some idea of how much it would cost to create a device that has these basic elements? Because then Dorothy Dubray: Isn't that your job? Betty Rodriguez: No, Leigh Badger: Oh. Betty Rodriguez: the chip composer Dorothy Dubray: Oh right. Betty Rodriguez: marketing. Oh no, the chip composer sender. Leigh Badger: Mm. Carly Clark: Um, Betty Rodriguez: I I don't believe I know, um. Carly Clark: I'm I'm Leigh Badger: What Carly Clark: I'm Leigh Badger: they cost. Carly Clark: hoping that my personal coach is gonna give Betty Rodriguez some advice on that, if you're Betty Rodriguez: Okay. Carly Clark: asking Betty Rodriguez, but Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: Be because then we would ha ha figure out how much we had to play with Dorothy Dubray: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: in terms Carly Clark: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: of Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: user interface and this look and feel idea. Dorothy Dubray: It does it does seem as if we're just to do something really simple and mass-produced, Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: the which is pretty much the same as these existing models, just maybe Betty Rodriguez: Inspired? Dorothy Dubray: a little bit more inspired, Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: but basically just the same. Although what what uh suddenly came into my head is, you know how they always take two A_A_ batteries which which is really not very efficient at all. Could it be possible to have uh, you know, like a rechargeable internal battery, like, Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: well, like an M_P_ three player does? With that you could jus or a mobile phone or whatever. Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: You could you know, you just plug into a power source for a couple of hours, and then it's recharged for ages and ages and ages, and you don't have to worry with replacing A_A_ batteries, Betty Rodriguez: Well that has Dorothy Dubray: which Betty Rodriguez: another Dorothy Dubray: are Betty Rodriguez: element, which is if every time you're done using the remote you put it on a charger, then Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: you then it has Dorothy Dubray: You'd Betty Rodriguez: a place. Dorothy Dubray: never need uh batteries would y uh yeah. Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, but it also has a place, so Dorothy Dubray: And it's not stuck down the back of Betty Rodriguez: exactly. Dorothy Dubray: the sofa. Leigh Badger: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: But then again I d I don't know if this is within our price range or not. Betty Rodriguez: That's a really good idea. Carly Clark: Well I uh think that's a very interesting idea, but um I'm not a very good industrial designer and I don't know much about what these things cost. I'll do some research for the next meeting. Betty Rodriguez: Well Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: it's better than my idea about solar, probably. Leigh Badger: Uh yeah. Carly Clark: Well solar may not be so good when you're watching T_V_ Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, Carly Clark: in the night, Betty Rodriguez: yeah. Carly Clark: but Leigh Badger: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: Well Betty Rodriguez: Depen Dorothy Dubray: it is just so Leigh Badger: It Dorothy Dubray: annoying Leigh Badger: would have to sor Dorothy Dubray: how Leigh Badger: store up the energy Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Yeah. Carly Clark: Yeah, I guess. Leigh Badger: and then use it. Solar can do Carly Clark: We may Leigh Badger: that. Carly Clark: be talking quite heavy then. Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Leigh Badger: M yeah, that would be too heavy and it'd cost too much. Carly Clark: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: No, but just a rechargeable internal battery would probably I mean it might cost more to at first to develop and to Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm Dorothy Dubray: install, but for long-term use it'll be so much more convenient and economic than fiddling around trying to replace chunky A_A_ batteries and Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Dorothy Dubray: not having any in your kitchen drawer and Carly Clark: So Dorothy Dubray: you Carly Clark: do you Dorothy Dubray: know Carly Clark: think Dorothy Dubray: f Carly Clark: we might make that a selling point if it was something that we found we could afford to develop? Betty Rodriguez: Definitely, 'cause I'm thinking Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: in terms of um uh the loss and breakage of um remotes, how much of that is is to do with it not really having a uh a home, a um Dorothy Dubray: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: a nest, Leigh Badger: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: Sort Betty Rodriguez: a Dorothy Dubray: of have Betty Rodriguez: place Dorothy Dubray: its little Betty Rodriguez: to live, Dorothy Dubray: dock that you Betty Rodriguez: exactly. Dorothy Dubray: could put Leigh Badger: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: it Betty Rodriguez: So Dorothy Dubray: in. Betty Rodriguez: if you can dock it, um you know, you could s argue Leigh Badger: And Betty Rodriguez: that Leigh Badger: the dock Betty Rodriguez: this Leigh Badger: could Betty Rodriguez: is Leigh Badger: look very fancy Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. Leigh Badger: and that could be your inspiration Dorothy Dubray: Still Leigh Badger: of having Dorothy Dubray: I Leigh Badger: it Dorothy Dubray: don't Leigh Badger: looking Dorothy Dubray: know if Leigh Badger: decent. Dorothy Dubray: it's quite within our price range. Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Leigh Badger: Hmm. Betty Rodriguez: 'Cause you are talking about another component, like another piece of Dorothy Dubray: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: hardware. Leigh Badger: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Leigh Badger: Okay. Are we agreed as to what our target group is though? Pretty much, so Betty Rodriguez: Well Leigh Badger: that Betty Rodriguez: I Leigh Badger: we'd be Betty Rodriguez: I Leigh Badger: looking Betty Rodriguez: brought up Leigh Badger: for the Betty Rodriguez: some Leigh Badger: younger end. Betty Rodriguez: exactly, but I think you raised some good questions about are there enough of these people out there, or are they Carly Clark: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: making purchasing decisions? You know, Carly Clark: Yeah, Betty Rodriguez: these Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: are Carly Clark: I was Betty Rodriguez: the Carly Clark: wondering that, because I ag I agree that there there're people with uh how can I put it, more money than sense and who Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, Carly Clark: are liable Leigh Badger: I Carly Clark: to Betty Rodriguez: exactly. Carly Clark: buy something Leigh Badger: I Carly Clark: new, Leigh Badger: s usually Carly Clark: but Leigh Badger: put more money than brains. Betty Rodriguez: Oh oh oh I'll make a note of that, Kate. Good, good Carly Clark: Bu Betty Rodriguez: comment. Carly Clark: but what I was gonna say was, although they they may be buying um, you know, personal music devices and all that, are they necessarily buying T_V_ remote controls? Because they probably live in a household that has a T_V_ if they're Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Carly Clark: at the lower end of the age range, I don't Dorothy Dubray: Yeah. Carly Clark: know. Betty Rodriguez: It might be good to know um uh who, you know, who's actually buying televisions and are we in a uh uh s region where people have more than one television in Carly Clark: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: a home? Carly Clark: I think we've got a big hill to climb here, haven't we? Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Leigh Badger: Yeah. Or do we s make sure that it goes to the man through the manufacturer? We sell to the manufacturer Carly Clark: Right, Leigh Badger: as Carly Clark: good point. Leigh Badger: the Carly Clark: Yeah, yeah Leigh Badger: remote Carly Clark: okay, Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah. Carly Clark: yeah. Leigh Badger: that goes with it. Carly Clark: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Carly Clark: Yeah, good point. Leigh Badger: What would be a more efficient way of doing it? Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, and and some of our D_V_D_ players incidentally have them, because we have the relationship with our own department, but moreover we need to Leigh Badger: Mm-hmm. Betty Rodriguez: to go for the the manufacturers. Leigh Badger: Okay. Right. Dorothy Dubray: We're not gonna get any resolutions by the end of the day, are we? Leigh Badger: Probably Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Leigh Badger: not. Um the other thing that we're supposed to do is make decision on our functions. Our functions, we've so far decided, I think, that power, channel, volume make it attractive. Um it has to have an enter key and of course the number keys. It has to have big user-friendly buttons and sh n definitely we wanna be inspired that the current styles are just plain awful. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah. Betty Rodriguez: Do we need um let Betty Rodriguez Leigh Badger: Is that agreeable Betty Rodriguez: Br Leigh Badger: to everyone? Betty Rodriguez: actually, Carly Clark: Mm-hmm. Betty Rodriguez: um the enter key I have a chart here that I didn't include. Leigh Badger: Mm-hmm. Betty Rodriguez: Um Carly Clark: Do you want the gizmo? Betty Rodriguez: yeah, which might Leigh Badger: Throw some light on Betty Rodriguez: Th Leigh Badger: that. Betty Rodriguez: yeah, th those are felt like had a lot of charts. Leigh Badger: Um actually we're, you know, we are almost a half hour out of the forty minutes, so we have to get close to Betty Rodriguez: Okay, Leigh Badger: finishing. Betty Rodriguez: I I my only comment is I think maybe um we could somehow include an enter key in like a power key if power Leigh Badger: Ah. Betty Rodriguez: power was enter Leigh Badger: Mm-hmm. Betty Rodriguez: and pow that was my only just Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: really in terms of streamlining. Um Leigh Badger: Enter, power as a s oh um a sum simultaneous key. Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. Again, you know, Leigh Badger: Is Betty Rodriguez: thinking Leigh Badger: that okay Betty Rodriguez: of menus Leigh Badger: with you? Betty Rodriguez: or Dorothy Dubray: Sorry, I was miles Leigh Badger: Would that Carly Clark: H Dorothy Dubray: away. Carly Clark: how does Dorothy Dubray: I Carly Clark: that Dorothy Dubray: was Carly Clark: work? Dorothy Dubray: re I was Carly Clark: How Dorothy Dubray: reading the chart to be honest. Leigh Badger: uh-huh. Carly Clark: so so how does that work, how do you avoid switching the thing off when you actually wanna press enter? Betty Rodriguez: Um well if you're pressing enter, the the thing would already be on, and so maybe um when you press power, initially it turns it on, press power again and use that as an enter um so you Leigh Badger: Then Betty Rodriguez: press Leigh Badger: you'd have to Betty Rodriguez: power Leigh Badger: have an off te Betty Rodriguez: after Leigh Badger: off key. Betty Rodriguez: you've um well I was thinking maybe you to turn it off you'd have to press power twice Carly Clark: Okay, Betty Rodriguez: in succession, Carly Clark: yep, mm-hmm. Betty Rodriguez: and maybe Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: power follows something like a channel up channel down power, and then that would make that choice. Carly Clark: It's not getting a bit complicated? Could Betty Rodriguez: Well Carly Clark: granny do this, or are we just not aiming at granny? Betty Rodriguez: Or y yeah. Or something that has a a turning dial, where at the far end is Dorothy Dubray: Who's got Betty Rodriguez: on Dorothy Dubray: an iPod Betty Rodriguez: or off. Dorothy Dubray: then? Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, I don't Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: um I wish. Anyway, uh that was the only comment about um Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: some of the the decisions people have made, what's most important. It's definitely Leigh Badger: Mm. Betty Rodriguez: channel, volume, power. Dorothy Dubray: Yeah, things like screen settings and audio settings, I would generally do them on the actual television Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. Dorothy Dubray: itself, like here you have a you know, a little flap th with a little control panel on Betty Rodriguez: Exactly. Dorothy Dubray: the actual box itself. I I wouldn't know how to do it using a remote control, Betty Rodriguez: Yeah. Dorothy Dubray: so um I would say that they are definitely less relevant. Betty Rodriguez: Okay, Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: well. Thanks for looking at that. Leigh Badger: So I guess easy to use is the other thing Betty Rodriguez: Mm-hmm. Leigh Badger: that we want 'em to be able to do. Betty Rodriguez: We don't wanna Leigh Badger: As Betty Rodriguez: outsmart Leigh Badger: you said, you know, don't make it too hard for the granny. I just joined that set last Betty Rodriguez: Hmm. Leigh Badger: week. Um Betty Rodriguez: Congratulations. Carly Clark: Mm. Leigh Badger: first grandchild arrived. Carly Clark: Uh. Leigh Badger: Um so are we agreed then of those things? And Betty Rodriguez: D Leigh Badger: let's go back to agenda and hook Betty Rodriguez up. Mm. This oughta be fun. It probably won't go the first time, it'll probably be like a g mess. Come on. Uh it lost it off here. Betty Rodriguez: Oh you're fine. Leigh Badger: Uh Betty Rodriguez: It's fine. Leigh Badger: No, it was up there, but I couldn't see it down here. Leigh Badger: Mm. This time it should be both. There we go. Carly Clark: How do you do that? How do you make it do both? Leigh Badger: Um you have to keep doing the financi the the F_N_ and F_ eight to Carly Clark: Ah okay, Leigh Badger: five Carly Clark: it Leigh Badger: minutes Carly Clark: toggles Leigh Badger: to Carly Clark: through, Leigh Badger: finish, thank Carly Clark: yeah. Leigh Badger: you a lot for telling Betty Rodriguez. Betty Rodriguez: I think Leigh Badger: Um Betty Rodriguez: you have to cycle through. Leigh Badger: right, Carly Clark: Yeah. Leigh Badger: we're ready to close. Um will be completed q questionnaire, um then we'll have some time for individual work to continue our research um and I'll put some minutes of this meeting together. Um your individual assignments are for um Kate to do the components, for you, Steph, to do the user interface and for you the trend-watching. Um and each of us will get help from our coach. Are we agreed to get ourselves together and then have lunch? Dorothy Dubray: Yes. Leigh Badger: Okay. Carly Clark: Sounds good. Leigh Badger: Then that's the end of this meeting. And I hope that's good enough for her to tell her that's the end. Okay? Carly Clark: Okay. Dorothy Dubray: We didn't come to any sort of decision on the functions though. Leigh Badger: Well I think I went over the functions and wrote them down Dorothy Dubray: Alright, Leigh Badger: and Dorothy Dubray: well Leigh Badger: marked Dorothy Dubray: that's fine Leigh Badger: them. Dorothy Dubray: then. Leigh Badger: Um that's what I went over Betty Rodriguez: Okay. Leigh Badger: and nobody was objecting to them. Betty Rodriguez: Um and you'd mentioned I I was just gonna say, could you reiterate the new project requirements, because Leigh Badger: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: it they were it has to be for a T_V_, just to keep myself Leigh Badger: Um the teletext is outdated, Carly Clark: So we're still in meeting, aren't we? Betty Rodriguez: Yeah, Leigh Badger: the Betty Rodriguez: I think Leigh Badger: internet Betty Rodriguez: I've Leigh Badger: is important, it's only to be for a T_V_ and it must include the corporate image, colour and slogan Betty Rodriguez: Okay. Leigh Badger: um which I think is more in the user Dorothy Dubray: Mm. Leigh Badger: uh range, with Steph. Dorothy Dubray: Sorry, what what actually are these is that the yellow and black? Leigh Badger: It doesn't tell Betty Rodriguez. Betty Rodriguez: Mm. Dorothy Dubray: From their I'll just use it from their website. Leigh Badger: Mm-hmm. Okay? Dorothy Dubray: Okay. Carly Clark: Okay. Betty Rodriguez: Right. Thank you.

Leigh Badger opened the meeting and went over the minutes of the previous meeting. Betty Rodriguez discussed user preferences in terms of remote controls and the increasing interest among younger consumers in speech recognition. Betty Rodriguez also discussed a user target group for the remote and addressed the issue of whether the target group would result in sufficient sales of the remote. Dorothy Dubray presented two existing remote controls on the market, which the team later evaluated, and discussed what features in terms of appearance and functionality the remote the team is creating should include. Carly Clark discussed the interior workings of a remote and addressed the issue of what happens when remotes no longer operate. The team also discussed options for energy sources, such as solar power and rechargeable internal batteries. Th team then discussed their user target group, marketing ideas such as selling the remote to television manufacturers, and what functions the remote would feature.

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Jada Gilbert: Okay uh Agnes, you Delia Samuels: Yep. Jada Gilbert: can help Audra Dean for the Delia Samuels: Sure. Jada Gilbert: when okay. Okay, welcome back. I hope uh you have a fresh head and a fresh time. How t now the meeting actually we gathering here to discuss about the functional design meeting. Okay, and uh we'll issue some information from uh all of you. And it's in the, I think uh, in the sharing folder. And uh I will invite uh the Christine and the Ed and uh Agnes to discuss about on the various subjects. So can you go to the next slide? Yeah uh the agenda of the meeting is opening. Then uh I'm going to talk about uh the project management, what I'm going to do, and uh, of course, I'm doing the project management and secretary both, okay, to take the minutes of the meeting. And there are three presentations. One is uh new project requirements. And the second one about uh decision on remote control functions. And uh finally we are closing. Uh and the meeting time will be uh forty minutes, so you have to be very quick. And I have come up with the management come with the new proposal, okay, and I have to discuss a few points on this. Uh both says new insights in the aim of your project. Uh the one is uh the teletext becomes uh outmoded, okay because if uh because of the computer systems and the new technology. So we don't need to consider really about the teletext all in our new project design. And the second one is about uh the remote control. Should be used only for the T_V_. That's what our uh management says. And the third point, it's very very important to establish our uh marketing or uh corporate image, okay, with this new project or new product. Okay. So I will invite uh Agnes, can you go to the third slide? Delia Samuels: No, this is the third. Jada Gilbert: Okay, So, I'll invite uh Christine to discuss about uh the functional design. Charolette Hight: 'Kay, do you wanna Delia Samuels: Sure. Charolette Hight: open the Delia Samuels: Um. You're participant s Charolette Hight: I'm number. Delia Samuels: Two? Charolette Hight: That's it. Delia Samuels: Do you want the mouse, or do you want Audra Dean to Charolette Hight: I'll do the notes. Yeah, thanks. So um well I I figured uh we should um identify some user requirements, and from my experience, I wanna uh, and from research I did, uh the the device has to turn the television on and off the first time you press on the big button, you can't uh can't have like uh waffling on this point, you know. Really have It needs to be able y y have to be able to find it. Because one of the biggest problems with remote controls is finding them. So uh, I also, since we have to establish our corporate image on the basis of this new product, thought we better look at things that are popular and um ex go beyond those, and, as I said in the first meeting, um and then uh we might wanna talk eventually about the materials that are appropriate to use in uh in the construction, especially in the the uh the outside of the product so that it gives the appearance, and it is reliable, and so forth. I did a little history on uh the the uh remote controls and when they were invented and so forth, so, I guess this guy Zenith uh created the Flashmatic, which I kinda like the idea, 'cause it made Audra Dean think of um um maybe the remote control made a big flash when uh you turn the T_V_ on and off, that might be interesting. And um so it was highly directional flash light that uh you could turn the picture on and off, and the sound on and off, and change channels c so I think um those are still requirements we have today, uh Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Charolette Hight: fifty years later. And uh it was really a pioneering innovation, but it was uh sensitive to the sun, so that uh it would get would start off by the you'd get it would easily cause um problems. So, uh I in addition to uh looking at the um uh the functional requir so all these devices are examples of where uh mm they represent examples that are available today which I think the one in the middle is r Audra Dean: Fantastic. Charolette Hight: um really uh something to keep in mind. It'd be easy to find. And um it would uh y you'd you could throw it at things if if the T_V_ didn't turn on and off, you could use it for something else. And since I'm not really um Industrial Designer, I didn't really know what to do with this slide. But um I just took some different uh schematics and I put them into this, and I guess this is what a slide might look like if you were drawing a circuit board. I don't know why um we were asked to do this. So, uh personal preferences, um I think we could uh I I'm really thinking outside the box here, and I think that we should consider perhaps having an an an a a size uh a remote control that changes in size depending on the user preference. So something that's very very flexible and inflatable and then you could shrink it. I think um it could either be you could go either one extreme, be very colourful, or you could make it clear, and um kind of blend in with things, so you didn't have to um uh have a problem with the th the decoration of the of the user's home. Um I think uh it needs to be waterproof, because uh sometimes they fall into cups and, you know, it might be out by the swimming pool or something like that. Um if you uh mi one of one of my requirements was about needs t to tell you when it's done its job or not, because half the time, I keep pushing on the remote control, and I don't know if it's actually understood my message, so I think it should give you some sort of an oral cue. And uh, course I never wanna replace the battery. So, that's those are my f preferences, and that's my presentation. Jada Gilbert: Yeah, let Audra Dean uh interrupt you uh if you can add other facility, other feature, like uh unbreakable. Charolette Hight: Yes. Jada Gilbert: Okay, because uh especially today, you know, you have the family and the kids, okay, and the kids throw it and they they play with their remotes Charolette Hight: Run over Jada Gilbert: and. Charolette Hight: it with a car. Jada Gilbert: Yes. Okay, so if you can add the feature, okay, for your uh fabric whatever in your outline design okay, with unbreakable, okay, I think that will give a lot of advantage for our product, Charolette Hight: Good Jada Gilbert: if I'm Charolette Hight: idea. Jada Gilbert: not wrong. Charolette Hight: Good idea, I'll I'll uh um Jada Gilbert: Maybe you can uh add it in that. Charolette Hight: Yes, very good. Jada Gilbert: Okay, uh thank you Christine, and uh uh any questions or uh clarifications, or any discussion on the functional design? Delia Samuels: Do you have any preconceived ideas in terms of materials? 'Cause, for example, in the unbreakable thing, doing something plastic would be harder, whereas Charolette Hight: Hmm. Delia Samuels: having something like, I dunno, steel or titanium Charolette Hight: Titanium. Delia Samuels: isn't really Charolette Hight: Titanium Audra Dean: Titanium. Charolette Hight: would be Delia Samuels: economically viable. Charolette Hight: be heavy, too, wouldn't Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: it? No, I haven't really um I wanted feedback, I think we need to rate rank these, Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: but we'll see what your uh personal Delia Samuels: Sure, Charolette Hight: preferences Delia Samuels: yeah. Charolette Hight: are and your Delia Samuels: No, I Charolette Hight: thoughts. Delia Samuels: just that you had any sort of Charolette Hight: I like titanium. It's light. Delia Samuels: Yeah. Audra Dean: Expensive. Charolette Hight: Uh yeah Delia Samuels: The Charolette Hight: but Delia Samuels: marketing comes Charolette Hight: uh who Delia Samuels: out. Charolette Hight: who said who said Jada Gilbert: Yes. Charolette Hight: we were, you know, nobody told Audra Dean how mu what our financial objective is, so um Jada Gilbert: Yeah Charolette Hight: It'd Jada Gilbert: so Charolette Hight: be hard to inflate something ou made out Jada Gilbert: Yeah Charolette Hight: of titanium Jada Gilbert: the the Charolette Hight: though. Jada Gilbert: I'm sorry because uh the last meeting we supposed to discuss about the financial thing. Uh let Audra Dean go quickly, maybe if I can go back. I know the project plan and the budget. So I can close this, not sure. Was in uh Jada Gilbert: S This. Jada Gilbert: So let Audra Dean see where is this file. Delia Samuels: That's Christine's. Jada Gilbert: This is Christine. Delia Samuels: And that's mine, Jada Gilbert: That's Delia Samuels: I think. Jada Gilbert: yours, okay. Saving. Delia Samuels: In modified. Audra Dean: I don't know, I think verbally Jada Gilbert: Okay, Audra Dean: we Jada Gilbert: uh Audra Dean: can Jada Gilbert: I will I Audra Dean: we Jada Gilbert: will Audra Dean: can Jada Gilbert: send Audra Dean: pretty Jada Gilbert: you Audra Dean: much Jada Gilbert: a mail, Audra Dean: sell. Jada Gilbert: okay? The project may be the the project aim, okay. At the end of the day, the company uh wants to make at least uh the fifty million Euro. Okay, and uh of course the price will be very reasonable on the the sales side. Okay, that maybe Eddie will talk to you about uh how much uh the price and uh what's uh how much its cost for the manufacturing and how much it's going to be we sell in the market. Okay. Then uh you can come back with your feedback. And I I have one maybe the suggestion or opinion. This remote control, okay, it can be for like universal, to use for any T_V_. Okay, and it will be slim, okay, and uh Charolette Hight: Not fat? Jada Gilbert: Not fat. Charolette Hight: Not fat, huh. Jada Gilbert: Okay. Charolette Hight: Might be hard to find, though. Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: Hmm. Jada Gilbert: But let's try it, okay, Charolette Hight: Oh, Jada Gilbert: with Charolette Hight: okay. Jada Gilbert: the different uh the designs, okay, the functional designs. Okay? So any other questions? Audra Dean: Uh from her side, I don't think uh there's too many more questions. Jada Gilbert: Okay. Audra Dean: If you can Jada Gilbert: Thank Audra Dean: come Jada Gilbert: you Audra Dean: to Jada Gilbert: Christine Audra Dean: the Jada Gilbert: for uh time being, so then uh Ed, so Audra Dean: Okay, Jada Gilbert: can you Audra Dean: from Jada Gilbert: tell Audra Dean: the Jada Gilbert: about Audra Dean: marketing yeah, from the marketing side, just to to give an idea what the management is looking for, I was looking for a a remote control to Delia Samuels: S Audra Dean: have a Delia Samuels: 'scuse Audra Dean: s Delia Samuels: Audra Dean for one sec. Audra Dean: I have a sales price of twenty-five Euro with, a production price of uh twelve and a half Euro. For what uh I think from what we're trying to find, we're tr we're looking for, I don't think that price is exactly in the market. Okay? Jada Gilbert: Mm-hmm. Audra Dean: I'll explain myself here now in the sense that uh in a in the recent surveys, uh from the ages fr from fifteen to thirty-five, eighty percent are willing to spend more money for something as fancy as trendy. Twenty-five Euros, uh that's that's a preson reasonable price. That's a market price right now. Now if we're gonna take a risk, Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: and push this up a bit, make it more expensive, but give them added things that they don't have now, Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: then it w it could possibly sell. Obviously the risk is there. Too expensive, they're not gonna buy. But, I think uh there's one other thing interesting two things that are interesting is that uh from the fifteen to thirty-five year-old group, which always spends more money on trendy new things, speech recognition is requested. And we're talking between Charolette Hight: Speech recognition?. Audra Dean: seventy-five to ninety percent of this group is willing to pay for speech recognition on a remote. Jada Gilbert: Mm-hmm. Audra Dean: Obviously, we can't make a remote into a computer, but maybe simple commands. I dunno, louder, softer, on, off. That might be a possibility, even though it costs more, to be the first on the market to produce this. Thirty-five percent say they're too difficult to use. So we have to figure out a way of making it um more user friendly. Uh fifty percent say they can't find the remote half the time. So maybe one word speech recognition commands, say remote, and there's a beep beep beep, and they can find it through, you know, ten tons of newspapers, magazines, whatever you have at home. But, in the cost that uh the management is looking for, that's not gonna be possible. But if it's trendy, if it's fancy, it's got some colour to it, if it's very easy easy to use, if it's got simple remote speech remote uh control, like I said, louder, softer, change channel, on, off, remote, it goes beep beep, I can find my my remote without spending half a day looking for it and getting all upset 'cause I can't turn the T_V_ on. So we're gonna have to look at it in a in this global idea, with the ideas of the industrial uh design. But, price obviously we have to talk about. Jada Gilbert: Yep. So what do you think about uh the design? Do you think you can make it or uh Charolette Hight: D uh I'm sorry? Jada Gilbert: What do you think about uh the design, uh what he was talking about Audra Dean: Speech recognition. Jada Gilbert: of the speech recognition? Charolette Hight: Well, uh training is always an issue with uh commands. Jada Gilbert: Mm-hmm. Charolette Hight: So um might uh we can to spend some time in the training process, uh it could reduce th th uh the overall um cost. Not sure how. But um anyway, um I I think also that uh this might impact the battery life. And um so, maybe what we'll have to do is um add something where you can um recharge it wirelessly so that uh y you know sen send power to it. So uh or maybe uh set it out in the sun and it uh, you know, gets Delia Samuels: Hmm. Charolette Hight: uh, from the light, um a a solar cell inside there so that uh you have enough uh juice to do all these fancy things. Delia Samuels: It seems also like with the speech recognition, yeah, it's a great feature, but if you're watching T_V_, there's a lot of ambient sound, and it's words. It's not just, you know, noises like something hitting. It's actual speech, so then you have to make sure that the speech recognizer is good enough to filter out the T_V_ speech, and the the user's speech. Otherwise, you can say remote. Charolette Hight: Off. Delia Samuels: But if someone on the screen is saying the same thing, all of a sudden, you have someone in a movie saying off and your screen dies, because they've triggered the remote control and it's turned off your T_V_. So, I think if we can find a speech recognizer that can handle those types of problems, then yeah, it'd be a really good Audra Dean: Mm. Delia Samuels: marketing gimmick. But, I think we seriously need to consider how that would impact the situation. Charolette Hight: Very good point. Audra Dean: Because tha w with speech recognition uh th I'm not that good at that idea but th Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Audra Dean: if it's a one-word recognition, 'cause I know with telephones and cars and things I've Delia Samuels: Yeah. Audra Dean: seen in the States, a friend of mine says call Mom, and it calls up Mom. Delia Samuels: Yeah. Audra Dean: 'Kay the radio can be on and everything. Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: Because I think s with speech recognition, if uh the the remote or like the telephone it has a exact word that Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Audra Dean: it has to hear. I don't think it would come through a sentence in a television. If somebody's speaking on the se the television, they're not gonna stop and say remote, okay. Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Audra Dean: So I think that uh something could be designed to recognise single word Delia Samuels: Oh yeah. Yeah. Audra Dean: Like Delia Samuels: No, I think Audra Dean: the t Delia Samuels: it's Audra Dean: like Delia Samuels: a great Audra Dean: the telephone. Delia Samuels: idea if we can Audra Dean: No because Delia Samuels: design Audra Dean: I Delia Samuels: it Audra Dean: this Delia Samuels: to Audra Dean: is this Delia Samuels: to Audra Dean: is Delia Samuels: suit Audra Dean: years Delia Samuels: those Audra Dean: ago Delia Samuels: requirements. Audra Dean: in the United States where we're driving down and he said call home, and the telephone called immediately Delia Samuels: Yeah. Audra Dean: so well, that's kinda cute. Jada Gilbert: Well, what I can uh suggest to you, Christine, okay, uh if you need some uh the technical feedback, or some training, okay, about uh this facility, especially for the speech recognition, I can recommend you some companies like uh Intel or I_B_M_, okay, because they're already in this uh speech recognition part, okay. And uh you can maybe have some uh technical backup from them, some kind of a technical tie-up. Okay, and uh if okay, and uh you can uh let Audra Dean know, okay, so what kind of uh the details you require okay, to add this feature in this project. I don't think it's uh the difficult. And uh we need to know how much is the timeframe you need to develop, apart from uh what today. Charolette Hight: Okay, we'll find that out. Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: From from your side uh, you're gonna have to go back the management and s Jada Gilbert: Yes. Audra Dean: be more s precise. What do they Jada Gilbert: Yes. Audra Dean: want? Uh, a risk, take a risk on the market? Something that's gonna cost more, but could very easily s Jada Gilbert: Yes. Audra Dean: make a boom in the market? Jada Gilbert: Yep. Audra Dean: Because it has to be something totally different, has to be total totally new. Something that nobody has right now. Jada Gilbert: Yeah Audra Dean: And it's Jada Gilbert: but Audra Dean: gonna cost. Jada Gilbert: but end of the day, you're the sales guy, so I will come back and sit on your head because uh you are going to give your sales projection, okay. It's Audra Dean: Mm-hmm. Jada Gilbert: uh of course it's uh good to uh tell the management how much it's cost us and how much you are going to Audra Dean: Sure. Jada Gilbert: benefit, Audra Dean: Sure. Jada Gilbert: okay. And uh, so I don't mind to convince, okay, the management to spend some more money on the project, okay, if you can make out of Audra Dean: Obviously. Jada Gilbert: the money from this Audra Dean: If the Jada Gilbert: project. Audra Dean: bottom line is positive. Jada Gilbert: Yes, okay I don't mind to convince the the management, Audra Dean: Mm. Jada Gilbert: okay. The management says, okay, so they they don't want certain facilities, which it's already worked, okay, they want something uh new, okay. I think uh like uh speech recognit definitely they will agree, I don't think they'll say no for that, okay. And uh I hope I can convince the management on that, okay. So if you have any uh new ideas, okay, for uh your you can always come up and uh you can tell Audra Dean if you need any uh s special, okay, coordination, okay, between any uh technical companies, which you can uh hide their technology backup, okay, for your uh functional design or technical design, okay, then I am ready to do that. And uh what's your comments about uh Delia Samuels: Um well, I mean, maybe if I go through my presentation, you can sort of see Audra Dean: Mm. Delia Samuels: what the user perspective is, and how it ties into the other two comments. Jada Gilbert: Yeah, so you are finish, Ed, uh Audra Dean: Yes. Jada Gilbert: so I can Audra Dean: Mm. Jada Gilbert: uh Okay, I'll uh hand over to Agnes. Just gonna close this. T Uh where are you, here? Delia Samuels: Mm participant three. Jada Gilbert: Participant three. Delia Samuels: Nope, here Jada Gilbert: Okay, so I'll yep. Jada Gilbert: Okay. Delia Samuels: Good. Thanks. Jada Gilbert: Is it okay? Alri Delia Samuels: Yeah, and that's fine. Okay. So, basically, the method that we usually use in the user interface design is that we need to look at what people like and what people don't like about existing products. So, in our case, existing remote controls. And then, what the good ideas are, and what the bad ideas are, and why they're bad and good, which isn't always as obvious. We seem to have intuitions about why things are good or things are bad, but when you look, technically, at how it works, sometimes that's not the case. Then we need to decide what functionalities we really want to keep, 'cause that'll feed into both Ed's work and Christine's work. Um and then what the remote control should look like, obviously, once we've got a good idea of what the functionalities are. So, in terms of the functionalities that we need, you obviously need to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off. You need to change channels, both by directly going to a specific channel or by channel surfing. You need to be able to control the volume and then control any menus on the T_V_ to regulate contrast or whatever. So, the problems that people have expressed is that there's too many buttons on remote controls, in general. The buttons it's not clear what they're supposed to do. Um often, you need to know specific button sequences to get certain functionalities done, um which you don't necessarily always remember, especially if it's a functionality that you don't use very often. And that the buttons are too small. So, here we've got two examples where here on the left-hand side, you can see a remote control that has lots and lots of buttons. The buttons, in a lot of cases, are tiny. Um they're hard to see, and okay, they're labelled, but the labels don't necessarily tell you too much. Whereas, on the other side, you have a much simpler remote control that I think basically has the minimum functionalities that are needed. And it sort of looks simpler and just less imposing when you first look at it. So, I would be inclined to go sort of towards this, in terms of design, rather than this. And if there's specific functionalities that require more buttons, then we can figure out how to do it with existing um buttons. So my personal preferences are to keep the number of buttons to a limit, or to a minimum, sorry, make frequently used buttons bigger and more strategically placed, so like the on button being really obvious one, the channel changing and the volume, and to keep the design basically sleek Jada Gilbert: Click Delia Samuels: and simple. Jada Gilbert: mm. Delia Samuels: Which, I think ties into what Christine and Ed have both said fairly reasonably. Um so, that's pretty much it, an I don't know if you guys have any questions or Charolette Hight: Oh, it's um, seems very understandable. Clearly your research and uh and ours uh heading in the same direction, Delia Samuels: Yep. Charolette Hight: and um uh the only thing that I saw missing from uh your your research that we found was this uh ability to find the doggone thing when you need it. Delia Samuels: Yes, that's true. Charolette Hight: So uh, Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: you know, but that's okay. That's why we're all here at the table, so that if we think of it and our research indicates certain things and um Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: w we it's complementary. I also think that um uh th f the the feel of it is uh, when you hold it, is something that um uh was expressed more in in in in my uh design Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Charolette Hight: and Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: that's logical and normal 'cause those are the parameters that an Industrial Designer's more thinking about, th Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: th the look and the feel, and uh, Delia Samuels: Oh, Charolette Hight: you're First. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I don't have any questions. Sounds good. Jada Gilbert: So for anybody need uh any help, for time being, on this Delia Samuels: Oh Jada Gilbert: uh subjects, okay, so please come back to Audra Dean, and uh Christine, maybe I can uh try to help you to get some uh the technical uh the companies to help you for uh make a design uh slim, okay, and to add some features, like we are talking about, the speech recognition and all. Delia Samuels: Should we maybe make a decision about what features we actually want to Jada Gilbert: Yeah. Delia Samuels: include, 'cause we've thrown a lot of features onto the table, but do we actually want to incorporate all of them, or have we missed Audra Dean: Hmm. Delia Samuels: anything? Charolette Hight: Do you wanna go back and look at the closing slide, maybe that would provide some guidance? Delia Samuels: Sure. Charolette Hight: Doesn't really tell us. Jada Gilbert: So not really this Audra Dean: Individual Jada Gilbert: one Audra Dean: actions. Jada Gilbert: we are talk Charolette Hight: Well it Jada Gilbert: ab Charolette Hight: says individual actions, it says Jada Gilbert: Yep. Charolette Hight: user interf so I'm supposed to do the components concept, supposed to work on the Delia Samuels: Mm-hmm. Charolette Hight: user interface concept, and you're supposed to keep watching the trends. Um and specific instructions will be sent by our our coach. I Delia Samuels: I thought Charolette Hight: think we should do as many features as uh start with all of them right now and eliminate them later in the process, that's my suggestion. Jada Gilbert: Okay, that will be great. And uh I'll send you the the minutes Charolette Hight: You can Jada Gilbert: of Charolette Hight: object Jada Gilbert: meet Charolette Hight: if you want to Delia Samuels: No, I I'm just thinking in terms of time, like Audra Dean: She's Delia Samuels: if Audra Dean: objecting. Jada Gilbert: Yeah. Delia Samuels: Yes, now I'm objecting. No, I mean, I was just thinking is it really practical to start designing something with features that we're just gonna end up throwing away? I mean, it takes a lot of time and effort for everyone to consider different features, um and s if we spend that time and effort on features that we're not gonna use, maybe it's better to spend it on the f thinking more about features that we actually do want, but Audra Dean: Oh th Charolette Hight: I think we Delia Samuels: guess Charolette Hight: should take Audra Dean: we s Charolette Hight: that as Audra Dean: we Charolette Hight: an Audra Dean: still Charolette Hight: action Audra Dean: have Charolette Hight: item for after the meeting, 'cause w Audra Dean: Yeah. Charolette Hight: our meeting time has run Audra Dean: Right. Charolette Hight: out. Somebody Delia Samuels: Sure. Charolette Hight: else has go to use this room, and, Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: you know, we can't hang out here and Delia Samuels: Yeah. Charolette Hight: talk Delia Samuels: Sure. Charolette Hight: about this, so Jada Gilbert: Okay, what we'll do is now we'll take for lunch break, okay, then uh we can discuss furthermore, okay, with our areas, and uh then we will come back again in the in the next meeting. So thanks for coming and uh I'll send you minutes of meeting, and uh please put your all information in the sharing folder so everybody can share the information. Okay? Delia Samuels: Okay. Jada Gilbert: So let's go for lunch then. Charolette Hight: Thank Audra Dean: Agreed. Charolette Hight: you very Jada Gilbert: Thank Charolette Hight: much. Jada Gilbert: you.

Jada Gilbert gave new requirements for the product: the remote will not include a teletext function, will only be used for television, and must show the corporate image. Charolette Hight presented possible components to consider. The group then discussed hard materials to include in the design. Audra Dean presented an initial sales plan and showed that there is a demand for remotes featuring voice recognition and other capabilities; the group discussed how it could be integrated into the functional design. Jada Gilbert offered to help Charolette Hight find companies to provide help in integrating this component. The designers expressed that they needed more information from the board on their expectations for the product. Delia Samuels gave a presentation on product design from the user's perspective and emphasized simplicity in design. She also suggested that the group make a decision on which features to include in the final product design, but the group decided to postpone it. The designers were given their assignments: Audra Dean will present the marketing concept; Delia Samuels, the user interface concept; Charolette Hight, the components concept.

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