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My Wam has lasted 2 seasons now & has been a great board .

I think it 's days are numbered .

My Wam has lasted 2 seasons now & has been a great board but I think it 's days are numbered .

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We have had some awesome 20 - 25 knot winds on the SUnny Coast lately .

It is soo much fun .

We have had some awesome 20 - 25 knot winds on the SUnny Coast lately and it is soo much fun .

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I have been riding my Firewire Hellfire consistently for the last 8 months .

It is still in excellent condition .

I have been riding my Firewire Hellfire consistently for the last 8 months and it is still in excellent condition .

but

SINGLE_VP_COORD

My Celeritas is great .

My Celeritas still broken it 3 times .

My Celeritas is great but still broken it 3 times .

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Heel dents are always gon na happen .

I actually have them shaped in now .

Heel dents are always gon na happen and I actually have them shaped in now .

but

PAIR_CONN

But it seems in regard to your thread , this is ok - ay ?

Here is a blatant self pimp .

It seems in regard to your thread , this is ok - ay ?

Here is a blatant self pimp .

because

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I 'd always heard Blue was bad .

It has to absorb the most spectrum to put out the colour we see .

I 'd always heard Blue was bad because it has to absorb the most spectrum to put out the colour we see .

, but

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Obviously what I 've heard is just hearsay at this point .

Is interesting none the less .

Obviously what I 've heard is just hearsay at this point , but is interesting none the less .

unless

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Kitcho im not a cloth designer but its still the same fibres so it should act the same way as normal cloth .

You want to really fold it away like a shirt .

Kitcho im not a cloth designer but its still the same fibres so it should act the same way as normal cloth unless you want to really fold it away like a shirt .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

I need to do more research into this .

I 've heard in person from a couple of kite companies that they will not be moving to triple or quadruple ever for the above reason .

I need to do more research into this but I 've heard in person from a couple of kite companies that they will not be moving to triple or quadruple ever for the above reason .

but

SINGLE_VP_COORD

Overall the torch with the ESP mode delivers more depower .

Overall the torch with the ESP mode still is a full Torch DNA .

overall the torch with the ESP mode delivers more depower but still is a full Torch DNA .

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70 % is certainly no small margin , I will be keen to see how it holds up this year .

Hopefully we get some more info from other un-biased sources in the future , pretty cool if true .

70 % is certainly no small margin , I will be keen to see how it holds up this year and hopefully we get some more info from other un-biased sources in the future , pretty cool if true .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

Stronger , stiffer and lighter kites will always be an improvement .

I guess the next claim will be they are harder to repair ( like d2 ) .

Stronger , stiffer and lighter kites will always be an improvement but I guess the next claim will be they are harder to repair ( like d2 ) .

because

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I think customers would feel really supported by the company if there was a readily available set of replacement parts , and also not being made to feel stink .

You bought a second hand kite .

I think customers would feel really supported by the company if there was a readily available set of replacement parts , and also not being made to feel stink because you bought a second hand kite .

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SINGLE_S_COORD

I also own a switch kite .

As a comparison had a look at their website , and you can buy every spare part for every model of kite , and really cheap , eg a new strut bladder with the right valve connection is only $17 bucks !

I also own a switch kite and as a comparison had a look at their website , and you can buy every spare part for every model of kite , and really cheap , eg a new strut bladder with the right valve connection is only $17 bucks !

, so

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I am fairly sure it would rip if at the wrong angle .

I dont see much advantage as the kite is still not covered for damage if you drop the kite in the surf and chances are it will rip anyhow .

I am fairly sure it would rip if at the wrong angle , so I dont see much advantage as the kite is still not covered for damage if you drop the kite in the surf and chances are it will rip anyhow .

unless

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A kite bladder will not pop .

Something spikes it or the leading edge material gives way .

A kite bladder will not pop unless something spikes it or the leading edge material gives way .

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SINGLE_S_COORD

If you crash the kite into a wave .

It rips , will the kite have a wave crash warranty ?

If you crash the kite into a wave and it rips , will the kite have a wave crash warranty ?

, but

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I figured that must be a typo .

Its been on their website for the last few months .

I figured that must be a typo , but its been on their website for the last few months .

or

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Was wondering if anyone has any info on the conditions , wind speeds etc , also do you advice to take own equipment .

Is it easier and cheaper to hire over there ?

Was wondering if anyone has any info on the conditions , wind speeds etc , also do you advice to take own equipment or is it easier and cheaper to hire over there ?

but

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But it comes in waves e.g. 5 days off then 5 days of wind .

There was heaps of wind , pic is of me on an envy 10.5 i was maxed out .

It comes in waves e.g. 5 days off then 5 days of wind .

There was heaps of wind , pic is of me on an envy 10.5 i was maxed out .

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SINGLE_VP_COORD

Contact JayP , he was there a month ago .

Contact JayP , he got a kite in .

Contact JayP , he was there a month ago and got a kite in .

and

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But mostly because they are strange .

But mostly because they to make them easier to undress ?

but mostly because they are strange and to make them easier to undress ?

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Also the store was very friendly .

Kind they did offer me an exchange .

Also the store was very friendly and kind they did offer me an exchange .

PAIR_ANAPHORA

He tried it himself before selling it to me lol .

But I do n't think the person who sold me the harness knew it was for chicks .

person tried it himself before selling it to me lol .

But I do n't think the person who sold me the harness knew it was for chicks .

, but

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Numfish in Victoria .

They will mail it to you , so does n't matter what state your in .

Numfish in Victoria , but they will mail it to you , so does n't matter what state your in .

PAIR_ANAPHORA

It has tucked half a surf rail in the middle transitioning to a std twintip rail in the back .

yep it is a 2014 board not far from release .

board has tucked half a surf rail in the middle transitioning to a std twintip rail in the back .

yep it is a 2014 board not far from release .

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Speedball goes well in surf , it 's got good rocker so easy to lift over whitewater .

Is really soft riding I 've only ridden the w18 it 's a nice light wind surf option .

Speedball goes well in surf , it 's got good rocker so easy to lift over whitewater and is really soft riding I 've only ridden the w18 it 's a nice light wind surf option .

but

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Dont get me wrong they look great .

I 'd be more inclined to call these boards hybrids ? ?

Dont get me wrong they look great but I 'd be more inclined to call these boards hybrids ? ?

, but

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He walked away .

The commodore was not so lucky !

He walked away , but the commodore was not so lucky !

PAIR_ANAPHORA

He walked away , but the commodore was not so lucky !

local kitesurfer was caught red - handed trying to break into his mates car earlier today using only a kiteloop and agressive edging as a weapon !

kitesurfer walked away , but the commodore was not so lucky !

local kitesurfer was caught red - handed trying to break into his mates car earlier today using only a kiteloop and agressive edging as a weapon !

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Boardies over wetties are ALWAYS ghey .

Are strictly for those that just ca n't face the fact that meat n 2 veg shrink in winter - even the ladies know it .

Boardies over wetties are ALWAYS ghey and are strictly for those that just ca n't face the fact that meat n 2 veg shrink in winter - even the ladies know it .

or

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A sliding spreader bar works wonders when riding in the waves .

You can have your waist harness loose and sliding around , my preference as sliding spreader were n't around when i started as Jesus had just retired from left fullback for Jerusalem !

A sliding spreader bar works wonders when riding in the waves or you can have your waist harness loose and sliding around , my preference as sliding spreader were n't around when i started as Jesus had just retired from left fullback for Jerusalem !

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I myself ride no straps ( never had ) .

I myself advise against straps completely .

I myself ride no straps ( never had ) and advise against straps completely .

but

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I ride strapless , have developed much better control this way , it take practice .

Is really rewarding once it clicks .

i ride strapless , have developed much better control this way , it take practice but is really rewarding once it clicks .

but

SINGLE_VP_COORD

I have been looking around for some guides .

I have havent been able to find much .

I have been looking around for some guides but havent been able to find much .

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Maybe a bit bouncy .

As you get better you can track your path to hit chop or go round it .

Maybe a bit bouncy but as you get better you can track your path to hit chop or go round it .

but

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I have only ever been on a TT as the freestyle stuff interests me a lot more .

Lately ive been getting an itch to have a crack at kitesurfing in some waves on a directional .

I have only ever been on a TT as the freestyle stuff interests me a lot more but lately ive been getting an itch to have a crack at kitesurfing in some waves on a directional .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

A cheap polly board can be good .

They lose strength over time and it is going to cop a hammering .

A cheap polly board can be good but they lose strength over time and it is going to cop a hammering .

so that

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We worked hard on sweep , profile position and front pigtail position so as to get the right bar pressure -- enough .

You know where the kite is without looking .

We worked hard on sweep , profile position and front pigtail position so as to get the right bar pressure -- enough so that you know where the kite is without looking .

, because

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Let 's hope that could be a contributing factor .

The next time i had it out I closed off the struts .

Let 's hope that could be a contributing factor , because the next time i had it out I closed off the struts .

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Awesome kite I rode the 12 the other day .

It had great bottom end but still had plenty at the top .

Awesome kite I rode the 12 the other day and it had great bottom end but still had plenty at the top .

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Setting two middle ribs fairly far apart , however , can minimize the problem .

Setting two middle ribs fairly far apart , however , help keep the trailing edge in a smooth arc , even when over-sheeted in light winds .

Setting two middle ribs fairly far apart , however , can minimize the problem and help keep the trailing edge in a smooth arc , even when over-sheeted in light winds .

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SINGLE_S_COORD

The kite had dropped back in the window slightly in a lull .

A following gust powered up the kite causing the leading edge to fold towards me pulling the wing tips together .

The kite had dropped back in the window slightly in a lull and a following gust powered up the kite causing the leading edge to fold towards me pulling the wing tips together .

, but

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There 's not much difference in strength .

It looks a little nicer .

There 's not much difference in strength , but it looks a little nicer .

, but

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The stronger cloth promised to be the simple solution .

Was also expensive and heavy .

The stronger cloth promised to be the simple solution , but was also expensive and heavy .

because

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We went this way .

Big kites naturally tend to feel more mushy and less precise than small kites and by having a bit more arc we knew we could get handling a little more like that of a C kite .

We went this way because big kites naturally tend to feel more mushy and less precise than small kites and by having a bit more arc we knew we could get handling a little more like that of a C kite .

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Over sheeting is much nicer , unhooked riding with heavy oversheeting , I was able to do all 2 of my unhooked moves .

The kite felt great , with heaps of pull .

Over sheeting is much nicer , unhooked riding with heavy oversheeting , I was able to do all 2 of my unhooked moves and the kite felt great , with heaps of pull .

, so

SINGLE_VP_COORD

The 09 Rebel does n't have that issue .

The 09 Rebel does n't will be a real goer this year .

The 09 Rebel does n't have that issue , so will be a real goer this year .

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I love this kite .

I am so close to ordering a 12m and 9m , but i am waiting for some more forum feedback to seal the deal .

I love this kite and i am so close to ordering a 12m and 9m , but i am waiting for some more forum feedback to seal the deal .

, so

SINGLE_S_COORD

The ' 08 Rebel has held together well .

We did n't want to make too many changes to construction .

The ' 08 Rebel has held together well , so we did n't want to make too many changes to construction .

or

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The quick release is a very simple plastic Push Forwards device that is a major improvement on the Thrusters , is it .

Is n't it going to release device .

The quick release is a very simple plastic Push Forwards device that is a major improvement on the Thrusters , is it or is n't it going to release device .

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The Leash attachment point runs through the centre of the quick release .

The Leash attachment point cleverly allows the kite to remain flying ( with very little power ) after an unhooked wipeout .

The Leash attachment point runs through the centre of the quick release and cleverly allows the kite to remain flying ( with very little power ) after an unhooked wipeout .

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I did notice that the bar had a very long throw .

I did find myself leaning forward over the bar to reach the straps .

I did notice that the bar had a very long throw and I did find myself leaning forward over the bar to reach the straps .

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I can vouch for the screamer , just pull a steering line .

It works like all easy relaunching kites .

I can vouch for the screamer , just pull a steering line and it works like all easy relaunching kites .

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Unhooked the kite behaved very well once trimmed correctly , there was less of a tendency to pull like a truck than I first expected .

I am sure that unhooked and wave riders are going to love this kites stability and speed of turning .

Unhooked the kite behaved very well once trimmed correctly , there was less of a tendency to pull like a truck than I first expected and I am sure that unhooked and wave riders are going to love this kites stability and speed of turning .

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In fact to come off a Nano and straight onto a Renegade you would first feel more comfortable .

Every thing would feel smoother with a bit more speed in turns .

In fact to come off a Nano and straight onto a Renegade you would first feel more comfortable and every thing would feel smoother with a bit more speed in turns .

or

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Are we going to have the chance to demo the kites over west .

Is it the normal story ?

Are we going to have the chance to demo the kites over west or is it the normal story ?

but

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Obviously this is the way the industry has gone .

I am not sure that saving ten minutes pumping up is worth all the grief when these systems go wrong .

Obviously this is the way the industry has gone but I am not sure that saving ten minutes pumping up is worth all the grief when these systems go wrong .

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I have had my HYPERTYPES for nearly a week .

I am simply blown away by the jump in performance .

I have had my HYPERTYPES for nearly a week and I am simply blown away by the jump in performance .

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PAIR_CONN

And asking that question about carbon foils is like posting asking what is the best kite brand .

As dusta said the Zeeko alloy is a significant upgrade for you .

Asking that question about carbon foils is like posting asking what is the best kite brand .

As dusta said the Zeeko alloy is a significant upgrade for you .

hence

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I gather a racer will be after a stiffer mast which in most cases will be achieved through adding more carbon material to the structure .

An additional weight .

I gather a racer will be after a stiffer mast which in most cases will be achieved through adding more carbon material to the structure hence an additional weight .

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SINGLE_S_COORD

Prices are similar .

Performance are heaps better as they are both able to reach 30kn for those willing to go fast .

Prices are similar and performance are heaps better as they are both able to reach 30kn for those willing to go fast .

unless

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The weight is a non issue for freeriders , the board and foil combo weighs much less than 10kg , .

My weight guestimator is way off .

The weight is a non issue for freeriders , the board and foil combo weighs much less than 10kg , unless my weight guestimator is way off .

so that

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I am also told that when going downwind the apparent wind builds .

You can stand in a fully locked .

I am also told that when going downwind the apparent wind builds so that you can stand in a fully locked .

and

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Then a Hoverglide NF2 foil .

A Liquid Force Rocket fish will come in just under $2 k ( pretty decent price ) .

Then a Hoverglide NF2 foil and a Liquid Force Rocket fish will come in just under $2 k ( pretty decent price ) .

but

PAIR_CONN

But if you live there and may do 20 - 40 sessions per year the likely hood is more when you hit something not if you hit it .

I think you would be unlucky to smash into a subsurface boulder while visiting and riding a few sessions .

If you live there and may do 20 - 40 sessions per year the likely hood is more when you hit something not if you hit it .

I think you would be unlucky to smash into a subsurface boulder while visiting and riding a few sessions .

and

SINGLE_VP_COORD

But if you live there .

But if you may do 20 - 40 sessions per year the likely hood is more when you hit something not if you hit it .

But if you live there and may do 20 - 40 sessions per year the likely hood is more when you hit something not if you hit it .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

I 've hit sandbars which stopped the rig .

With only using a very loose front strap , I kept going which meant no damage each time .

I 've hit sandbars which stopped the rig but with only using a very loose front strap , I kept going which meant no damage each time .

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD

The SS Hoverglide NF2 with their lower priced board will be $2208 .

You could easily convert or make a board if budget is tight .

The SS Hoverglide NF2 with their lower priced board will be $2208 , but you could easily convert or make a board if budget is tight .

, although

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If its waves and freeride then get yourself a decent ally foil like a zeeko .

Having said that if you forked out the money for a cabrinha foil then you have money to burn

If its waves and freeride then get yourself a decent ally foil like a zeeko , although having said that if you forked out the money for a cabrinha foil then you have money to burn

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

Certainly took a while to get comfortable maneuvering through chop in between waves .

Catches waves real easy and the thin rails and super light weight helps it turns real well .

Certainly took a while to get comfortable maneuvering through chop in between waves but catches waves real easy and the thin rails and super light weight helps it turns real well .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

Air was 5 .

Water was a balmy 8 :-)

Air was 5 but water was a balmy 8 :-)

but

SINGLE_VP_COORD

She 's been using my * board 10'5 .

She 's just ca n't generate enough boardspeed to catch those small waves that are commensurate with her beginner status .

She 's been using my * board 10'5 but just ca n't generate enough boardspeed to catch those small waves that are commensurate with her beginner status .

and

SINGLE_S_COORD_ANAPHORA

Nesha at 38kg can easily ride this board in small waves .

Kristi loves board to death .

Nesha at 38kg can easily ride this board in small waves and Kristi loves it to death .

and

SINGLE_S_COORD

For our generally short period bumps .

The bay stuff im super happy with the f16 .

for our generally short period bumps and the bay stuff im super happy with the f16 .

, and

SINGLE_S_COORD

I ca n't find a picture that shows all the boards well .

I 'm now back at work with all the boards not in the same spot .

I ca n't find a picture that shows all the boards well , and I 'm now back at work with all the boards not in the same spot .

and

SINGLE_S_COORD

If you are interested , PM me an email address .

I 'll send you the pdf or CAD .

If you are interested , PM me an email address and I 'll send you the pdf or CAD .

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD

The hand shaped 17 ' Custom F16 is very similar , with possibly a less pronounced V shape forward .

We have n't had the boards in the same place at the same time to compare .

The hand shaped 17 ' Custom F16 is very similar , with possibly a less pronounced V shape forward , but we have n't had the boards in the same place at the same time to compare .

but

PAIR_CONN

But my favourite board is usually the one I am on or last paddled .

It is my favourite board .

My favourite board is usually the one I am on or last paddled .

It is my favourite board .

, so

SINGLE_S_COORD

As you can guess , the ideal river board is not the ideal surf board .

You may have to decide what is most important .

As you can guess , the ideal river board is not the ideal surf board , so you may have to decide what is most important .

but ,

PAIR_CONN

But , DJ , how do you find the Hokua for waiting around out the back stability wise and early picking up of the wave ?

Sorry to hijack your thread a little Andy .

DJ , how do you find the Hokua for waiting around out the back stability wise and early picking up of the wave ?

Sorry to hijack your thread a little Andy .

however

PAIR_CONN

However it 's a big board .

I still have it and its a great board and can be surfed as it was designed for surfing .

It 's a big board .

I still have it and its a great board and can be surfed as it was designed for surfing .

because

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Within 3 months of starting I was hooking into more waves than ever before in uncrowded spots on crowded beaches .

That 's what 's possible on a SUP .

Within 3 months of starting I was hooking into more waves than ever before in uncrowded spots on crowded beaches because that 's what 's possible on a SUP .

but

SINGLE_S_COORD

Hard to belive .

When you get the barge up on a lip or on a foam ball its a buzz ! !

Hard to belive but when you get the barge up on a lip or on a foam ball its a buzz ! !

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD

No way it can happen if you plan to shortboard .

You can still begin on a decent longboard that you will keep a long time to complement shortboards .

No way it can happen if you plan to shortboard , but you can still begin on a decent longboard that you will keep a long time to complement shortboards .

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD_ANAPHORA

I do n't know the Blue Planet board .

Based on the specs , board is the safest option .

I do n't know the Blue Planet board , but based on the specs , it is the safest option .

PAIR_ANAPHORA

It does get choppy , always seems to be windy at the moment !

I surf on the west coast Vic from 13 the beach to Bells beach .

Vic does get choppy , always seems to be windy at the moment !

I surf on the west coast Vic from 13 the beach to Bells beach .

, but

SINGLE_VP_COORD

I will most likely use the sup at beach breaks on small days , it depends how I go .

I will most likely could see myself moving onto reef breaks as I get better .

i will most likely use the sup at beach breaks on small days , it depends how I go , but could see myself moving onto reef breaks as I get better .

, and

SINGLE_VP_COORD

Or just buy an used soft top , enjoy the accelerated learning curve .

Or just resell it with no loss .

Or just buy an used soft top , enjoy the accelerated learning curve , and resell it with no loss .

, or

SINGLE_S_COORD

Is it a reef break such that you can paddle around the waves .

Do you have to go through them ?

Is it a reef break such that you can paddle around the waves , or do you have to go through them ?

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD

I also agree with your demo board theory .

I guess if I have trouble balancing on a 11 ' footer a 9 footer will be no good .

i also agree with your demo board theory , but I guess if I have trouble balancing on a 11 ' footer a 9 footer will be no good .

and

SINGLE_S_COORD

Our SUPs weigh in at only 10 - 13kgs .

We have been making them for around 2 years now .

Our SUPs weigh in at only 10 - 13kgs and we have been making them for around 2 years now .

unless

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For the TAIL BLOCK I 'm recycling a bodyboard made of PE by using the front part of it after shaping it and glue with neoprene glue . It ' s stiking .

You stick the sanded side of the PE .

For the TAIL BLOCK I 'm recycling a bodyboard made of PE by using the front part of it after shaping it and glue with neoprene glue . It ' s stiking unless you stick the sanded side of the PE .

and

SINGLE_VP_COORD

An if you 're going wider , you can always split it .

An if you 're going wider , you can always leave a small gap between the 2 pieces .

An if you 're going wider , you can always split it and leave a small gap between the 2 pieces .

and

SINGLE_S_COORD_ANAPHORA

I am building a board at the moment .

Board has a super wide tail .

I am building a board at the moment and it has a super wide tail .

and

SINGLE_VP_COORD

Personally , i love the Sprint in flat water .

Personally , i catching long sweel bumps .

Personally , i love the Sprint in flat water and catching long sweel bumps .

, but

SINGLE_S_COORD

I know what both boards are intended for .

I am just curious as to what condition you prefer one board vs the other .

I know what both boards are intended for , but I am just curious as to what condition you prefer one board vs the other .

and

PAIR_CONN

And you must try to abandon most preconceptions till you have not ridden them .

The difference in shape are exaggerated by the short dimensions .

You must try to abandon most preconceptions till you have not ridden them .

The difference in shape are exaggerated by the short dimensions .

and

SINGLE_VP_COORD

The width brings some latency to engage turns .

The width makes the board slower to paddle , however .

the width brings some latency to engage turns and makes the board slower to paddle , however .