I see your point, but what about NATO?
And right now, the one military threat Europe faces is Russia.
Yo, the Eu is horrified by Nazism (but not by Communism), so I doubt that will ever happen.
This is something that I respect all opinions.
And you still want a EU Army?
Who is not to say that tomorrow there will be new threat?
Im saying that the parallels between the EU and the Nazis are worth Noting. And Nazis stood for nationalist socialist party ( maybe there was another word in there I have missed) But EU run by corrupt socialists. EU was great back in the early days, but eventually many great things grow big and grow dishonest. I think Brexit was good, because it gonna hopefully be the downfall of the EU and it will be replaced with something that works for free trade. A US-EU free trade deal ... should been here a long time ago, EU has too many socialists to want that and is heading towards a protectionist stance.
Yo, there's an intermediate step between saying the EU is corrupt and that there are parallels with the Nazis.
But we're going OT (like in the good old days), so let's get back on track.
I certainly hope Ireland doesnt decide to screw over the UK and turn our backs on them like brussels wants to. The Dutch wont Id say they will be #2 to leave. Then maybe Italy or greece.
And yeah, the british don't really have a variety of units at all.
Im am going to make it a "British Common Wealth" Tree,and include some south african tech and that completes most of it. I have a draft on my PC and will post it later.
Just going to add that if the British doctrine is added, their tanks should have the highest hitpoints out of all the tanks, and best spec ops stats. Their anti air is, well... Meh. Guess Britain is a good country for tank rushes.
MBT-80 Really, what about the Chieftain MK.11? MBT-80 didn't even exist. Chieftain was replaced by the Challenger 1.
Woo Woo Woo Panavia Tornado IDS has been used 3 times! in this tech tree. The Panavia Tornado IDS is the Tornado GR1 and GR4 it is literally the same plane. RAF removed IDS and just added the GR instead. It's literally the British designation for the Tornado IDS. Everyone else in Europe calls it the IDS. It's not air-air at all. The English Electric Lighting would be a much better Tier 1 Fighter. The Tornado ADV replaced it in service, which was later kind of replaced by the Typhoon (More of a cost saving measure).
Demote the Nimrods and add the P-8 Poseidon as the Tier 3.
I know you don't like it but the RAF and FAA are buying the F-35B variant which Britain is partially constructing and helped to develop.Although Rubbish as we previously stated it will be Britain Stealth Strike Fighter. Either that or you use the BAe Replica (Stupid name) which was a stealth strike proposed to replace the Tornado IDS.
Britain is designing a Stealthy Air Superiority Fighter for Turkey. Closest you will get to a British Stealth Air Superiority Aircraft.
Malta class? Wtf that's a world war 2 carrier and wasn't even built.
Castle Class, once again WTF. It's a world war 2 Corvette!!! River Class are patrol Ships. Britain designs and builds corvettes, We don't use them.
Get rid of the Valiant it was put into service alongside the Victor.
Promote the Victor to tier 1 and Vulcan to tier 2. Because Britain was going to join the supersonic bomber club back in the cold war.
Remember they going to have to make 3 tier skins progressions for these. Dont think it is great with the lynx being the attack choppers.
Im just straight out stuck here, hence I was going to make this a "Commonwealth" Tech tree, add in the South African cheetah as tier 1. I just think the Lighting is pretty damn ugly.
Yep, good call with the Phantom. Did they even draw a sketch of the P.125?
Haha, I have heard of it before. Is there even a sketch or anything?
Hehe, yea but sure I didnt want to use the Centaur. They added the ski jump later and I didnt notice that ha. That fine. Fits perfect!
Yea... See when we have the Brexit from the Euroskins, gotta keep in mind that tree too. Tiger class is being used there but we will move it here. The peruvians had some sort of Cruiser Made by the Dutch we can add in. Just hope it isnt too out of date to be added.
Get rid of the Valiant it was put into service alongside the Victor.Promote the Victor to tier 1 and Vulcan to tier 2. Because Britain was going to join the supersonic bomber club back in the cold war.
Yea, I didnt at the TSR for a reason. Isnt really a bomber compared to the Vulcan. Seemed really like a big strike aircraft. Id say it could fit better in the tier 1. But the Vulcan is much better suited for the tier 3.
Hmm... good yea, didnt think of that. But really want that to be tier 3 ?
Well the Krab SPG is the most advanced variant of the AS-90 hence why I put it as tier-3.
The TRS.2 Can carry the same bomb-load as the Vulcan can fly faster and lower. As well as launching Cruise Missiles. It's more of a tactical Bomber, but not a strike fighter. It has no air defense capability unlike the F-111 Aardvark. The TRS.2 would probably been a much better bomber than the Aardvark but the Aardvark had some multi-role capabilities. Hence why the RAF selected it over the TRS.2 and also because it was meant to be cheaper. The TRS.2 at it's heart was a strategic nuclear bomber, it just wasn't as big as the B-1 Lancer, Tu-22M or Tu-160 Supersonic heavy bombers.
Didnt want to add the Warthog in, but the super AV is fine. Good get :P well those are only amphibious assault vehicles and the Viking is tailored to British service much like the Warthog is.
Kind of looks like a YF-23.
Sorry. It's actually the P.1154 sorry my mistake. Kind of looks like a Harrier and a F-4 Phantom had a Baby. Yh they drew stretches, they even made the engines. But scrapped it in favor of the subsonic harrier for cost reasons.
South African cheetah as tier 1. I just think the Lighting is pretty damn ugly. Lighting maybe ugly but it was a our premier air superiority fighter of it's time and the first British Fighter to reach Mach 2. The Cheetah isn't South African, sure it was made there. But it was based off a French Mirage IV and designed by Israelis for the Apartheid government of South Africa since they were under sanctions and couldn't buy them off the French. If you want a British Tech Tree use British equipment when it is available. Besides I've always found the MiG-23 and F-5 tiger to be pretty ugly looking so it will fit right in.
To me it's like MiG-21 on steroids. It's ugly but that shouldn't be a reason to keep it out of the tech tree now I've finished it for you.
The Lynx AH models have pretty much zero anti-infantry capacity apart from machine guns used by the crew chief. They use radar and anti-tank guided missiles. The Super Lynx is the second generation Lynx and the Wildcat the third generation. The wildcat does look substantially different from the other two lynx helicopters. But the Super Lynx AH7 was a significant upgrade over the Lynx AH1. The reason I put them in the attack class is simply because they are good tank hunters. The Apache models are used by Britain in a anti-infantry capacity against insurgents. Their 30mm and unguided rockets pods are heavily used. The Lynx doesn't have this Infantry chewing ability hence why I put it in Tank Hunters (Attack Helicopters). Surely similar looking aircraft makes it easier on the developers? Their is one major disgusting feature that can Seperate the Earlier Lynx AH1 to the Super Lynx AH7. AH7 served during the gulf war so were given a light tan color scheme and big bulky dust protectors for their engines. They were fairly similar externally to the AH1, but internally the AH7 was a big upgrade.
How do I break up quotes?
Like I take your quote, break it up so I can type my bit. Then do the next part.
Well it's all finished now. So he will probably like it. But I would say it would take a while until it's implement. Some of the animation skins can be transfered over from the European Skin which would save time. I reckon they will focus adding all the additional unit animations like they've are doing recently with every update. But I can imagine this tech tree and the Chinese one maybe introduced in a future update down the line. Will just have to be patient and wait for the developers to finish current projects relating to the game. I've also started my own skin. East Asia doctrine. Compromising of South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Singapore. Our little conversation inspired me to create one and see how far I could go before running into trouble with gaps. So far it's like 60% Indigenous East Asian. But I'm running into trouble with the Naval aspects of it (Submarines, Aircraft Carriers, Naval Aircraft, ICBMs) it's largely filled out other than that. I have however been forced to use US bombers. But I figure since the British Skin will share bombers with Europe it won't be such a big deal.
That true, but its more the case that the British bombers that are not in British tree will be used.
Russia isn't the Only threat to the EU. The USA could be a threat is the United States see Europe challenging it's foreign policy or trying to make NATO obsolete.
Turkey is constantly threatening Europe and especially Greece. The South Eastern European countries (Greece, Bulgaria, Romania) are more threatened by Turkey than Russia.
The Balkans is still a mess. Everyone hates Serbia and Serbia is still pissed at NATO and Albania over Kosovo.
The UK is actually the Biggest threat to the EU due to Brexit.
And let's not forget Ethnic national or Separatist and Islamic Terrorism which is actually killing Europeans.
Russia is more a threat to NATO. Besides Geo-politically the EU is good for Russia since it makes them less dependent on Russia-phobic America. If the EU broke up everyone would fold back into NATO and love the US again. Russians want to end NATO not necessarily the EU which I believe is their biggest trading partner outside the Former states.