User Interface: Two.Project Manager: Hello. Hello.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Good morning.Marketing: Hello. Ah.Project Manager: You have to put it exactly on the on the {disfmarker} yeah.Marketing: Plate {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Okay.User Interface: Good morning.Industrial Designer: Good morning.Project Manager: I took your mouse.Industrial Designer: Should I bring my uh pen tooProject Manager: Yeah just {disfmarker} yeah, no,Industrial Designer: Or {disfmarker}Project Manager: that's for me, I just have to make some notes. I got my uh mouse.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay.Marketing: Uh I also forgot my mouse,User Interface: Mouse.Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound} yeah.Marketing: but I don't need my mouse, I think.Industrial Designer: I do.User Interface: Come on. There we are.Industrial Designer: My laptop is crashing.Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: Damn computers. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} CrMarketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Help help help.User Interface: Let's just check one more time. Mm.Marketing: Can you hear me HelloProject Manager: Uh actually my laptop doesn't work,Marketing: Test.Project Manager: {gap} switch it on again.Marketing: I dunno.Project Manager: Oh no.Marketing: Check. Okay. I think it works.Industrial Designer: Test test. Yes, it's working.Project Manager: So you all read what we are going to do or notMarketing: Mm-hmm.Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: Yeah.Marketing: We're gonna make a remote control.Project Manager: Yeah, that's right.Industrial Designer: I think my laptop is a bitMarketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: etchy.Project Manager: I just made a a simple uh presentation. So you {gap} put some things in it.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay. How does this work I dunno. {gap}User Interface: One uh {disfmarker} most to the right.Industrial Designer: Uh pUser Interface: Yes that one.Project Manager: This oneUser Interface: Yes.Marketing: Press F_ eleven.Project Manager: Ah cool. Okay. SoMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: that's my name, {gap}. Uh we're going to make uh a remote control, you already know that. Just have a look, are we going to {disfmarker} uh this agenda of our meeting. You know, this is about twenty five minutes, this meeting. So um the {gap} thing we have to know is you already know what we're going to do, you also read what this the things {disfmarker} or, not yet,User Interface: Yes.Project Manager: okay. So um, yeah, it has to be original, trendy, user-friendly {gap} that's what we're going to design. Uh first we have uh uh three steps of uh making the the remote control. Fir the first thing is th the functional design, that's very important. We have to look what the needs are, the effects of the functional design, and and how the mm the the remote control works, so that's where we're going to look in the functional design, it's for the f next meeting. The the second thing is the conceptual design, that's what it {disfmarker} that's uh the spe the specifications of the components and the properties and the specifications of the user interface. And we have to look what uh the market is doing for {disfmarker} what kind of uh remote controls are in the market. And the third thing is uh the detailed design um and that's exa yeah, you know what it is, it's exactly how it looks and whatever. {vocalsound} Okay so {disfmarker} uh no, this is a {disfmarker} these are two smartboards, with the uh f uh s an introduction of that one. And you already saw {disfmarker} you know all that that you here can put uh things in the the red project uh map.Marketing: Folder,Project Manager: Folder, okay.Marketing: yes.Project Manager: So no okay {gap} have a look at that one. Okay. So uh what we're going to do first is um so you can read. {vocalsound} You have to uh draw uh a favourite animal on the whiteboardMarketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: and um and say why it's your favourite animal. So and you have {disfmarker} this is just to try it out and we have to uh use a different pen colours and different thickness of the pen. So okay, so first have to show you, maybe you can come here to have a look how it works. YesMarketing: Ah I can see it now.Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: Yeah.Project Manager: This a new page, it's okay. Use pen format. and a different colour can use here {gap} no I just take the pink. You take {disfmarker} oh there's no pink, okay, oh just purple, okay.User Interface: Purple.Project Manager: No blue. And uh line width {vocalsound} ten. Okay uh just take {disfmarker} what I'm going to draw is an elephant. Just draw slowly, because otherwise it won't work. It's a very nice elephant, you can see. I dunno what it looks {disfmarker} but it doesn't matter. {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: Looks very nice.Project Manager: I just hIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Something like this Oh no {gap}Marketing: {vocalsound} It look like a dinosaurs. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Yeah, okay.User Interface: {vocalsound} A pink elephant.Project Manager: Because I like {disfmarker} uh okay.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Just takes so long, okay. Whatever, just. You erased this one. It's a bit slow you can see, this is a bit annoying.Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: Okay, so just for you guys just one of you can draw a painting if you want. Just don'tMarketing: Let me try one.Project Manager: um {disfmarker} yeah, just u use it like that, yeah. That's okay.Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: Mm. Okay and then uh what's the colour How do I do {disfmarker}Project Manager: It's in format. Yeah.Marketing: Ah. I'll take this one. Uh there has to be water,Project Manager: Just {disfmarker}Marketing: but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}Project Manager: No it has to be an animal, so if that's it's {disfmarker} it should be a shna snake or something.Marketing: Yeah yeah, but it's an animal it's an animal that lives in the water.Project Manager: Okay. Okay okay. Okay.User Interface: {vocalsound} The water is important. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay.Marketing: So I first uh draw the water.Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Uh. Okay, and now I make the animal. It's a fish.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Okay,Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wow.Project Manager: cool.Marketing: Mm-hmm. So. {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: This is a worm.User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}Project Manager: Hmm yeah, that's nice.Marketing: {gap}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Wow.Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay, who next Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Uh do you have to write down why {disfmarker} uh that doesn't matter, just {disfmarker} it's to get used to the whiteboard, but it's okay.Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: Just make a new blank new blank page.User Interface: Yeah.Marketing: Well Paul {vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah. Like thisProject Manager: Yeah, not too far to the to the t pen top.User Interface: Okay. UmMarketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: let's make it um a dog. Ooh.Project Manager: Maybe you should hold your pen a bit more to the back, so that {disfmarker} no, to the {disfmarker} yeah.User Interface: {gap} Ah okay.Marketing: I think it's a pig.User Interface: A pigProject Manager: No, it's a dog. {vocalsound}User Interface: I can make {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: Or a dog.User Interface: a dog.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} Um {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: A sheep {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh we d only have twenty five minutes, so {gap}. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Take it easy.Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface:'Kay, I make a cat of it.Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: I I was gonna make a cat too.Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Use your fantasy. {vocalsound}User Interface: Oh, not too quick.Project Manager: Just hold it more more to the back then you don't have {gap}User Interface: NoProject Manager: okay.User Interface: I have it. I just draw too quick I think. Okay, that's it. More.Project Manager: No, that's okay, thank you. {vocalsound}User Interface: It's just to get used to it.Industrial Designer: Okay.Project Manager: I thought these pens would be just um {disfmarker} uh you write it down and you download it to Word, you already did it or no No, not yet, okay.Marketing: No.User Interface: Yeah, that's right,Project Manager: But it's just {disfmarker}User Interface: it {disfmarker} but you actually got to write on the paper.Project Manager: SorryUser Interface: You really got to write on that paper.Project Manager: Yeah, I know, but I d I I thought it would be just in in in uh typed words in Word,Marketing: Yeah yeah, it's a real pen.Project Manager: so that's notUser Interface: Yeah, but it's just a picture.Project Manager: just {disfmarker} it's just a picture. So {vocalsound}Marketing: Oh.Project Manager: it's not that cool as I th thought it would be.User Interface: You really {disfmarker}Marketing: Y you can you can't edit in the {disfmarker} edit it in Word.Project Manager: No.User Interface: No.Marketing: Oh, okay.User Interface: It's a donkey.Project Manager: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: I don't know, what time did we start this meeting, I'm not sure.User Interface: Uh I think it was uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Half past.Marketing: Half past ten.User Interface: Yeah.Project Manager: Okay.Marketing: Brilliant.Project Manager: Okay, perfect.Industrial Designer: Nice, eh {vocalsound}Marketing: Yep.Project Manager: Yeah, thank you. Now we just have to save everything, so. {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound} OhIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}Project Manager: this is definitely the best one.User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Uh.Project Manager: Okay, so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros. Okay,Industrial Designer: Excuse me.Project Manager: that's {gap}. And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros, so we have to uh use a big market in Europe. The production cost are about half the price of selling price,User Interface: Piece of cake.Project Manager: sorry.User Interface: Uh easy.Project Manager: So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million, I dunno. Uh so we're gonna have {gap} a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the {gap} and everything, so just have a look how it {disfmarker} we think about remote controls.Marketing: Yeah, my first question was does it have to be a {vocalsound} a universal remote controlProject Manager: Oh yeah, that's a good question.Marketing: Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television, we sell it uh apart.Project Manager: I think it's {disfmarker} I'm not I'm not sure,Marketing: So I {disfmarker}Project Manager: it's not mm {disfmarker} I think {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah, it probably would be universal.User Interface: Universal.Marketing: Because {disfmarker} {gap}User Interface: And only television Or more devicesProject Manager: I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros, so {disfmarker} not sure, but {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Hmm, maybe, I don't know.Marketing: Yeah, I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh EurosProject Manager: Okay, so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control. Okay, perfect.User Interface: Ah okay.Marketing: Yeah, I think.Industrial Designer: And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ playerProject Manager: Yeah, everythingIndustrial Designer: and {disfmarker}Project Manager: just {disfmarker} so a lot of buttons {vocalsound} on the remote control.Industrial Designer: okay. {vocalsound} Yeah, probably.User Interface: Not just a T_V_.Project Manager: No, just everything.User Interface: Okay.Project Manager: {gap}. so yeah,Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: what what what's a remote control, it's just a black thing with some buttons on it, it's not {disfmarker} nothing very special, but um {disfmarker}User Interface: Well we can try to make it special.Project Manager: yeah, that's right.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user {vocalsound}User Interface: Well {disfmarker}Marketing: Well I th I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television, {gap} {disfmarker} we don't have uh the same television uh all the time, so uh that's no matter. {vocalsound} Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear, because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it, so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons. Um I think it must be a very good control, so you can uh uh uh act uh {vocalsound} use it from uh everywhere in your room, the the infrared uh thing must be from very good quality.Project Manager: Hmm yeah.User Interface: {vocalsound}Project Manager: That's right. Should be a good point.User Interface: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Okay.User Interface: Nothing {gap} NIndustrial Designer: And how big should it beMarketing: No. Yeah.User Interface: {gap} It shouldn't be too big,Marketing: I dunno um {disfmarker}User Interface: but I don't think we can make it too small,'cause it has to have a lot of functions, so.Industrial Designer: Yeah.User Interface: We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think.Project Manager: Just big enough for the buttons we have, that's that's it.User Interface: Yeah. Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem.Industrial Designer: Yeah. Yeah.User Interface: Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer,Marketing: YesUser Interface: maybe more trendy.Project Manager: But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open.User Interface: Fold open,Project Manager: Okay,User Interface: where you can see uh more options. I think {disfmarker}Project Manager: yeah, that's cool. Maybe for the D_V_D_ pla player or something,Industrial Designer: YeahMarketing: AhIndustrial Designer: nMarketing: that's that's {disfmarker}Project Manager: if you just {disfmarker}User Interface: Yeah, something uh on top, just dren general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often.Marketing: Ah right right.Industrial Designer: Yeah, or you cProject Manager: Yeah.Industrial Designer: O or you could th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control.Marketing: Oh that's good, yeah.User Interface: Yeah b I wanted {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah.Project Manager: Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote controlIndustrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh maybe be uh it's it's {disfmarker}Project Manager: There are buttons on it.User Interface: No you can make an uh manual in it.Industrial Designer: Yeah, or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small.Project Manager: Okay. But it's not t t t too expensive to put a touchscreen on it.User Interface: But that's {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh like a a to have {disfmarker}Marketing: Yeah, butUser Interface: Yeah, I think it's much uh {disfmarker} too expensive.Industrial Designer: Yeah, maybe it would.Marketing: Yeah but it's not reachable I think, touch screen.Project Manager: {gap}Marketing: And we have to care for uh the strength of the remote control,Project Manager: Yeah.Marketing: because uh uh remote controls are most uh things in the house that falls down on the ground and it get often uh broken.Project Manager: Yeah. So. And if you have a touch screen in it, it's definitely too too fragile uh fragile.User Interface: Yeah, too fragile.Marketing: Yeah and a lots uh uh lots of kids use it and touchscreen is not uh kids uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: No. You can put games on your remote control. Whatever. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: Kid-proof.Marketing: {vocalsound}User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah {gap}.Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And uh how about the batteriesMarketing: Um {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Uh should you put it in a recharger or a {disfmarker} just {disfmarker}Project Manager: Oh maybe that's a good idea,Marketing: Ma maybe a home station.Project Manager: just to put it on your television and just s recharge,User Interface: Yeah.Project Manager: you never have to use any batteries.Industrial Designer: Mm yeah.User Interface: Maybe that's a good idea, but yeah, we have to look at the price now I think.Project Manager: Yeah, how m how mu how how expensive uh is a normal rechargerMarketing: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Yeah, I dunno.User Interface: Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone rechargerProject Manager: I dunno.Industrial Designer: Yeah, if you buy it uh separately from your phone it's probably expensive,Project Manager: {vocalsound}Marketing: Ah yeah.Industrial Designer: but I don't know what the project uh projection costs are for such a thing.Marketing: {gap}User Interface: Maybe have {gap} uh {disfmarker}Marketing: {vocalsound}Project Manager: Uh if you th look at the market, it's probably {disfmarker} it's still the best way just to put batteries in it, because maybe it's too expensive.User Interface: Yeah,'cause well {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: Yeah.Marketing: Yeah, but a home station is uh a really good idea, because uh lots of people are {disfmarker} uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is,Project Manager: Yeah, that's right, yeah.Marketing: and now you can put it always at the same place.User Interface: Yeah.Industrial Designer: Yeah.Marketing: Maybe it's {disfmarker} Therefore it's a good idea, but maybe it's expensive.User Interface: Maybe uh use it as a separate option. Sell it uh separately.Marketing: Yeah. You can {disfmarker} yeah, you can buy it with it.Industrial Designer: Yeah, but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh {disfmarker}User Interface: Rechargeable.Industrial Designer: Yeah, and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station,User Interface: Yeah.Industrial Designer: or you can change your batteries,Marketing: Oh yeah.Industrial Designer: so.Project Manager: The option, just the option, that's cool.Industrial Designer: Yeah.Marketing: Uh I I set something on paper already, {gap} size, looks, uh usable, uh the buttons on usable places, uh the the on off button must be on top,Project Manager: Yeah.Marketing: uh it has to lay good in the hand,User Interface: Yeah.Marketing: you you have to uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: Has it be {disfmarker} has {disfmarker} does it has to b have to be um uh like a different form than a normal remote controlMarketing: Yeah, I don't I don't know I don't knowProject Manager: or {disfmarker}User Interface: Well I think we have to look at that,Marketing: if we {disfmarker}User Interface:'cause well you can do {gap} the standard way, but then you won't {disfmarker}Marketing: You can make it very special, to create our own um looks,Project Manager: YeahMarketing: but it's very hard to {disfmarker}Industrial Designer: N uh if if we want to make it special, we probably have to do a lot of testing, if it really works.User Interface: Well you can um have uh {vocalsound} the basic things on the same place, like on off button on top and the T_V_ channels one two three four as a block, and then the volume uh obviously on t on top, so you can see.Marketing: Nah.Industrial Designer: Yeah.User Interface: But the rest is uh you don't use that often, so if you have a clear button with an good icon on it, it should be clear as well.Project Manager: Yeah.User Interface: So it doesn't matter what place it is on the remote control I think,Industrial Designer: Yeah.User Interface: so you can do something unique with that.Industrial Designer: And what we have to think about too is uh uh buttons that you use often are um maybe uh like when you fold it open, when you have it closed, you {vocalsound} can still uh do the th the functions.Marketing: Yeah yeah, what Paul already said.Project Manager: Yeah, just for the T_V_ and just the normal function, that's fine.Industrial Designer: Yeah.Marketing: Uh on on top are the the basic options on top,Industrial Designer: But n {vocalsound}User Interface: Yeah, yeah.Industrial Designer: yeah, but uh i {vocalsound} basically when I'm watching T_V_ I'm just using like five buttons or so,Marketing: and if you fold it open {disfmarker}Project Manager: But maybe it'sUser Interface: Yeah {gap}.Marketing: {gap}User Interface: That's what I meant.Industrial Designer: so.Project Manager: maybe it's very hard to to make it fold open and to l look like it's very uh uh {disfmarker} what's it's calledMarketing: Mm. If you if if you make to fold open it's or also an {disfmarker} uh the strength uh is not s as good as a normal uh remote control.Project Manager: {gap} Maybe it's hard tUser Interface: Uh {disfmarker}Project Manager: No, that's right. So maybe we have to to uh keep it like mm a square, just normal remote control {gap}.User Interface: Okay, but yeah.Project Manager: Just think about it.Industrial Designer: Yeah.Project Manager: We have to close this uh to finish this uh meeting, so.Industrial Designer: Okay.Project Manager: There's some more things. We have uh another thirty minutes, so then we're going to meet again. So you know what you have to {disfmarker} what you have to doMarketing: Okay.Project Manager: Yeah.Marketing: Um for m for me uh the Marketing Expert, the user requirements uh specification, do I need to think as a user, a as a a a only the looks and the {disfmarker}User Interface: {vocalsound} No, what you want to do with it.Project Manager: Yeah, I think this {disfmarker} if you {disfmarker} you have to n know if it's for s a T_V_, a D_V_D_ player, all that things. Also from a user, but all these things together.Marketing: Okay. Yeah, it's also about strength and uh for everything uh.Project Manager: Yeah, everything.User Interface: Yeah, I also wrote down some stuffProject Manager: Yeah,User Interface: that you want on a {disfmarker}Project Manager: no maybe not not uh {gap}, that's not a f that's something for for for {disfmarker} yeah.User Interface: Technical fun fuProject Manager: That's not for you. Just if {disfmarker}Marketing: Okay.Project Manager: what's in the market, what's normal, uh what kind of uh buttons do you have.User Interface: What do you want to do with your remote control, what do you need on your remote control.Project Manager: Yeah, it's alright.User Interface: I already wrote some down, some ideas.Marketing: Yep.Project Manager: Yeah, just {disfmarker} is that okayUser Interface: Yep.Marketing: Okay.Industrial Designer: Okay.Project Manager: Okay.User Interface: There's already a document in the folder about it.Marketing: Yeah, me too.Project Manager: So see you in thirty minutes.User Interface: Okay.Marketing: Okay, well done.Industrial Designer: Okay.Project Manager: For the next time you have to uh put it exactly on the square, so {disfmarker} your laptop.User Interface: I will.Marketing: Oh Paul. {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Project Manager: {vocalsound}User Interface: It didn't say that.Project Manager: No, sorry.User Interface: Your fault.Marketing: Ciao.User Interface: {vocalsound}Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Bye bye.User Interface: Bye bye.
When discussing the conceptual design of the remote control, the group noticed that the energy source was also a problem worth concern. The Industrial Design proposed to make it rechargeable at first, but because of their limited budget, he had to change his idea. The Industrial Design then put forward to setting a station at home or perhaps just using normal batteries to run the remote control, both of which would be feasible.
What did Industrial Design suggest to do when discussing the conceptual design of the remote control?