According to him, both are related to the primary perceptive ability of animals, which gathers the perceptions of different senses and defines the order of the things that are perceived without distinguishing universals, and without deliberation or logos.
Ifølge ham er begge relaterede til dyrernes primære perceptive evne, som indsamlinger perceptioner af forskellige sansninger og definerer tingenes orden uden at bemærke universalier og uden overvejelse eller logos.