And so you have to understand that I have a bachelor's and a master's in social work, and I was getting my Ph.D. in social work, so my entire academic career was surrounded by people who kind of believed in the "life's messy, love it."
Dan anda harus faham,  saya mempunyai ijazah sarjana muda, ijazah sarjana  dan sedang menjalani pengajian ijazah kedoktoran  dalam bidang kerja sosial,  jadi keseluruhan kerjaya akademik saya di kelilingi mereka yang seolah-olah percaya dengan "kekusutan hidup, menyukainya."