And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
Kad man ir saruna ar cilvēkiem, es atceros, piemēram, sarunu Irākā ar kopienu, kas man vaicāja, vai sacelšanās, ko mēs redzam sev priekšā, tā bija provinciālas padomes ēkas izlaupīšana, bija zīme jaunajai demokrātijai?