And one of the problems that we face, I think, is that the only people that have cornered the market in terms of progress is a financial definition of what progress is, an economic definition of what progress is -- that somehow, if we get the right numbers to go up, we're going to be better off, whether that's on the stock market, whether that's with GDP and economic growth, that somehow life is going to get better.
Salah satu cabarannya timbul kerana Salah satu cabarannya timbul kerana pembangunan didefinisikan berdasarkan ukuran kewangan, pembangunan didefinisikan  berdasarkan ukuran ekonomi yang menggambarkan, jika kita dapat meningkatkan  beberapa angka tertentu, kesejahteraan kita meningkat, sama ada  angka pasaran saham, angka Keluaran Dalam Negara Kasar  (KDNK), dan angka pertumbuhan ekonomi, kehidupan akan bertambah baik.