And when I have conversations with people, I remember having a conversation, for example, in Iraq, with a community that asked me whether the riot we were seeing in front of us, this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building, was a sign of the new democracy.
Намайг хүмүүстэй ярилцах үед, нэгэн ярианы үеэр Иракт "Орон нутгийн эвслийн байрыг тонож буй бидний харж байгаа босогчид ардчиллын шинэ хэлбэр үү?" гэж ард иргэд нь асууж байлаа.