So I have this distinction between what we're making people do and the subject that's sort of mainstream and the subject that, in a sense, people might follow with their own interest and perhaps even be spiked into doing that.
Es nodalu to, ko mēs spiežam cilvēkiem darīt — priekšmetu, kas ir vispārpieņemts, un priekšmetu, kuru cilvēki varētu apgūt savu individuālo interešu vadīti, un būt pat ļoti aizrautīgi.