CA: So as you look at what's happening today, and putting your historian's hat on, do you look back in history at moments when things were going just fine and an individual leader really took the world or their country backwards?
크리스: 오늘날 일어나는 일들을 보면서 역사학자로서 모든 게 잘 돌아가고 있었는데 한 명의 리더가 세계나 나라를 퇴보시킨 역사 속의 순간들을 돌아보시나요?