CA: Well, Richard, when I was starting off in business, I knew nothing about it and I also was sort of -- I thought that business people were supposed to just be ruthless and that that was the only way you could have a chance of succeeding.
CA: 제가 사업을 시작했을 때만 해도 저는 아무것도 몰랐고, 뭐랄까, 사업을 하는 사람들은 무자비하고, 또 그래야만 성공할 수 있다고 생각했습니다.