And as an example, I want to give you Amos, a male that I knew who was a young male and he was alpha male, he was very popular, but he got sick and he lost his position because, you know, chimpanzee males they can spot from a mile away if you are weak and they went for him, and he lost his position, and then he got sicker and sicker until at some point we had to isolate him.
제가 예를 들어 드리면, 제가 알았던 수컷 아모스는 젊은 수컷이었고 알파 메일이었어요. 인기가 아주 많았어요. 그런데 병이 들었고 지위를 잃게되는데,  왜냐하면 수컷 침팬지들은 1km 밖에서도 약한 개체를 알아볼 수 있거든요. 그래서 아모스는 공격을 받았고 지위를 잃고나서  병세가 점점 더 악화돼서 저희는 아모스를 격리해야 했죠.