And the objects which were used as examples, when I was a child and a student, as examples of the break between mathematics and visible reality -- those objects, I turned them completely around.
예를 들어 제가 어릴 때, 그리고 학생 때 수학과 현실을 분리하기 위해 사용하던 것들을 저는 완전히 뒤바꿔놨습니다.