And he was talking first about his dad, who he hardly knew, who had died, and then about his mom, who he did know, who was still alive.
בהתחלה הוא דיבר על אביו, אותו בקושי הכיר, שמת כשהיה צעיר, לאחר מכן על אמו, שאותה הוא דווקא הכיר,