And what I realized when I understood this -- and if you ask Joel Salatin what he is, he'll tell you he's not a chicken farmer, he's not a sheep farmer, he's not a cattle rancher; he's a grass farmer, because grass is really the keystone species of such a system -- is that, if you think about it, this completely contradicts the tragic idea of nature we hold in our heads, which is that for us to get what we want, nature is diminished.
Ja kui ma sellest aru sain, siis ma mõistsin -- ja kui sa Joel Salatinilt küsid, kes ta on, siis ta ütleb sulle, et ta pole kanafarmer, ta pole lambafarmer, ta pole karjapidaja, ta on rohufarmer, sest rohi on tegelikult sellises süsteemis põhiline liik -- kui järele mõelda, siis see on meie peas oleva arusaamaga loodusest täielikus vastuolus, mis on see, et kui meie saame mida me tahame, siis loodus tõmbub tagasi.