AM: If we think about the asylum system today, where people are coming and saying that they have a credible threat, that they will be persecuted back home, and we think about the fact that on average, it's about two years for someone to get an asylum hearing, that many people are not represented as they go through that process, it makes me think about something that they say in the health care space all the time, which is that every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets.
AM: Si pensamos en el sistema de asilo de hoy, donde la gente se presenta y dice que tiene una amenaza creíble, que serán perseguidos hasta que regresen, y si pensamos que, en promedio, una persona tarda dos años  en conseguir una audiencia de asilo, que mucha gente no es  representada en este proceso, me hace pensar en algo que se dice  en el ámbito de la asistencia médica, y es que cada sistema está perfectamente diseñado para tener los resultados que busca.