CA: I mean, the psychologist Erik Erikson says that -- as I understand him and I'm a total amateur -- but that during 30s, 40s people are driven by this desire to grow and that's where they get their fulfillment.
CA: El psicólogo Erik Erikson dice que, como yo le entiendo y soy un total aficionado, pero la gente al cumplir los treinta, los cuarenta les mueve este deseo de crecer y es cuando llegan a sentirse realizados.