After clay, I was then kind of turned on to lots of different kinds of materials, and my studio grew a lot because I thought, well, it's not really about the material, it's about our capacity to shape things.
Dopo l'argilla, mi feci prendere  da tanti materiali diversi, e il mio studio crebbe molto,  perché pensavo, non si trattasse dei materiali,  ma della capacità di dare forma alle cose.