And I think they were expecting -- they'd worked with lots of consultants before -- I think they were expecting some kind of hideous org chart with thousands of bubbles and systemic this, that and the other, and all kinds of mappy stuff.
E eu acho que eles esperavam -- eles tinham trabalhado com vários consultores antes -- eu acho que eles esperavam um péssimo organograma com milhares de bolhas e sistemas disso e daquilo, e vários mapinhas e tal.