TK: Well, look, I think -- I've been an entrepreneur since I've been in high school and you have -- In various different ways an entrepreneur will see hard times and for us, it was about a year and a half ago, and for us it was hard times, too.
TK: Veja bem, eu tenho sido  empreendedor desde o ensino médio, e de várias diferentes formas, um empreendedor enfrentará tempos difíceis e para nós, cerca de um ano e meio atrás, também tivemos tempos difíceis.