He read the book. He stood on a stage with me, he  invited me in front of his whole management team, men and women, and he said, I thought we  were good at this. I thought I was good at this.
Ele tinha lido o livro. Subiu comigo no palco e, perante sua equipe de homens e mulheres, disse: "Pensei que éramos bom nisso, que eu era bom nisso.