We talked about -- they told us why  they had joined the guerrillas, why the left the guerrillas, what their dreams were, what their frustrations were, and from those conversations came the underlying insight that has guided this whole campaign, which is that guerrillas are as much prisoners of their organizations as the people they hold hostage.
Conversamos sobre... Nos falaram  porque se juntaram às guerrilhas, porque saíram das guerrilhas,  quais eram os sonhos deles, quais eram suas frustrações, e com essas conversas vieram  as principais inspirações que orientaram toda esta campanha, que os guerrilheiros são tão prisioneiros de sua própria organização quanto as pessoas mantidas refém.