And I think they were expecting -- they'd worked with lots of consultants before -- I think they were expecting some kind of hideous org chart with thousands of bubbles and systemic this, that and the other, and all kinds of mappy stuff.
Ich glaube, sie erwarteten – sie hatten zuvor schon mit vielen Beratern gearbeitet – ich denke, sie haben irgendein grässliches Diagramm erwartet, mit tausenden von Blasen und systemischem Pipapo, all diesen Tabellenkram.