And Sue Savage-Rumbaugh got excited about that, called her friend Steve Woodruff, and we began hustling all sorts of people whose work related or was inspiring, which led us to Diana, and led us to Neil.
Und Sue Savage-Rumbaugh  begeisterte sich dafür, rief ihren Freund Steve Woodruff an und wir begannen,  alle möglichen Leute zu nerven, deren Werke dazu in Bezug standen oder inspirierend waren, und das führte uns zu Diana und zu Neil.