And without getting into all of the details, it is said to have collapsed — I'm using my words very carefully — it's said to have collapsed in January of '09, which is just coming up to nearly four years.
I, sense entrar en detalls, es diu que va fer fallida ―estic mesurant les meves paraules amb cura― es diu que va fer fallida al gener de 2009, d'això en fa ja gairebé quatre anys.