CA: It's also been said that, of those 54 alleged incidents, that as few as zero of them were actually anything to do with these controversial programs that Mr. Snowden revealed, that it was basically through other forms of intelligence, that you're looking for a needle in a haystack, and the effects of these programs, these controversial programs, is just to add hay to the stack, not to really find the needle.
CA: Também tem sido dito que, desses 54 alegados incidentes, nenhum deles teve de facto nada a ver com esses programas controversos que Snowden revelou. Ou seja, que foi através  de outras formas de informações, que os senhores andavam à procura  de uma agulha num palheiro, e que os efeitos desses programas controversos foram apenas de acrescentar palha ao palheiro, e não para encontrar a agulha.