And 30 years later I was sitting in an airplane, next to a lady called Veronica, who came from Chile, and we were on a human rights tour, and she was starting to tell me what it was like to be tortured, and, from my very privileged position, this was the only reference point that I had.
Trinta anos depois ia de avião, sentado ao lado de uma senhora chamada Veronica, do Chile, e estávamos numa visita guiada de direitos humanos. Ela começou a contar-me o que é ser-se torturado, e eu, do meu ponto de vista privilegiado, só conseguia pensar nesta história como o meu ponto de referência.