(Laughter) But in actuality, I find talking about jailing much less depressing than the alternative, because I think if we don't talk about these issues and collectively change how we think about jailing, at the end of all of our lives, we'll still have jails full of poor people who don't belong there.
» (Rires) Mais en fait, parler de ce sujet est moins déprimant que son alternative. Si on ne parle pas de ces problèmes, si on ne change pas notre vision commune de l'incarcération, in fine, nos prisons resteront remplies de pauvres qui n'y ont pas leur place.