(Laughter) But it wasn't until I started coaching debaters, persuaders who are really at the top of their game, that I actually got it.
(ضحك) لكنه ليس كذلك حتى بدأتُ تدريب المناظريين، المقنعون الذين هم في قمة أوجهم، وهذا ما فهمته.