PM: So when we first started talking about, maybe the subject wouldn't be social media, which we assumed it would be, but  that you had very much on your mind the missing leadership positions, particularly  in the sector of technology and social media.
PM: Kita akan mulai berbincang,  mungkin bukan tentang media sosial seperti yang kita kira, tapi mengenai  pemikiran Anda tentang hilangnya posisi kepemimpinan, terutama di bidang teknologi dan media sosial.