is obviously highly competitive and hes disappointed when we dont play well but i would bet that daytoday and overall he may be one of the easiest owners to work for really simply because he understands he truly understands not that other owners are different but i think what happens a lot in this league is were all fans and then all of a sudden you watch a thousand games and you think you know look i watch nfl football i love nfl football and like you know the panthers are great and ill sit there and watch an nfl game and think geez why arent they running i didnt even play high school football i dont know anything about football its just the nature of our business youre going to be secondguessed the difference with him is he watches every game he watches it closely he knows our team he knows our players and he has a vision of how he wants us to play were in contact all the time and he gives me great feedback and we have the kind of relationship where he tells me when he doesnt like something and he also knows how it can happen i could give you so many stories of times when i thought hed be upset and hes supportive ive been so fortunate with the experiences that ive had like draft week we went out to dinner and im sitting there sleepy floyd lives in charlotte hornets assistant patrick ewing and sleepy are good friends so im sitting there listening to michael patrick and sleepy talk about the nba and how players have changed how the game has changed their experience playing for dean smith phil jackson john thompson jeff van gundy pat riley its just something that ill never take for granted the learning that you get from being around these guys is just i played division iii at university of maine at farmington its not something that you ever take for granted as far as the back and forth can you joke around with him how does that work look heres the bottom line with michael michaels a nutsandbolts guy he believes in work he believes in team he believes in guys sacrificing for each other it makes the whole thing easier like the guys sitting out games to rest for instance you should hear him and patrick with resting players i mean like they didnt do that when they played and its just so refreshing for me he was saying the other day he never sat out games he said i would never have sat out a game thats who he is hes more apt to be upset for instance about a stretch of play where we dont pass the ball to each other and play selfishly sometimes than if we lose you know what i mean he wants us to play the right way the way the game should be