theranos devices however never ended up in mattis pilot project or in any sort of military arena when asked who was in charge in board meetings holmes or her former romantic partner and theranos chief operating officer ramesh sunny balwani mattis did not hesitate when he said ms holmes i was taken with the idea that with one drop of blood and with remote capability you could basically test for a broad array of problems mattis told jurors from the witness stand during his initial examination from prosecutors i had no other source of information on it he told the court mattis told jurors he invested 85000 in the startup murdoch was a theranos investor and boies at one point sat on theranos board and his firm served as the companys outside counsel for several years the bottom line is we all make mistakes at times he told pbs in 2019 additional nontheranos tests confirmed the initial results were inaccurate and she went on to have a healthy baby girl holmes lawyers elected not to cross examine gould another key witness from last week brittany gould was the first theranos patient to take the stand podcast the dropout elizabeth holmes on trial holmes founded theranos in 2003 and claimed the company was developing blood testing technology that could perform hundreds of blood tests using only a few drops of blood holmes and her counsel did not respond to abc news repeated requests for comment listen to the newest episode of the dropout elizabeth holmes on trial here new episodes of the dropout are available for free on apple podcasts spotify amazon music or wherever you listen to podcasts more former defense secretary testifies at elizabeth holmes criminal trial we could do a sidebyside comparison mattis recalled in the courtroom in 2013 he pushed for theranos devices to join a pilot project where theyd be compared to devices already used on large us naval vessels according to email exchanges between mattis and holmes displayed in court jim mattis secretary of defense listens during a meeting with president donald trump in the roosevelt room of the white house nov 28 2017 show more nick ottoafp via getty images mattis joined theranos in 2013 and departed in 2016 prior to joining the trump administration as the secretary of defense holmes allegedly pricked his finger to give him an idea of what the machine blood draw was he stated in court photo files his salary on the board was approximately 150000 according to theranos financial documents both have pleaded not guilty she told the court that the companys blood test inaccurately showed she was suffering a miscarriage when in fact she had a healthy pregnancy holmes and balwani face a dozen charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud in connection with what prosecutors call a multimillion dollar scheme to defraud investors and patients and when asked where he got his information regarding theronos blood testing devices he also