B:	They needed, uh, at least at first,  they needed a smaller setting that, that was more like family where they could get one-on-one,  from, from teachers, professors and so forth, and then after a year or two move on to a little bit bigger pond where, where, when they had a little more self-confidence built up, oh, yes, I can do this, oh, I've done this before, it's just in a bigger setting,
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