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Context: Riku is a boxer of Baba gym. Tokorozawa is a retired boxer of Baba
gym. Ishigami is a retired boxer of an unmentioned gym. Tokorozawa beat
Ishigami in the past. Recently, Tokorozawa asked a favour to Ishigami. Now
also Riku is taking advantage of Ishigami's help. When Riku asks Ishigami
about the match with Tokorozawa, Ishigami says:

> なんで馬場ジムはどいつもこいつも **負かした俺** を頼りにしてくんだか… 所沢君に続いて

負かす is a transitive verb, so I think 負かした俺 means "me who beat". From this
sentence it looks like it was Ishigami that beat someone from Baba gym. Who is
the subject and object of 負かした? Could you explain how this relative clause
works?

Could you also confirm that どいつもこいつも is the subject of 頼りにしてく?

[Here you can see](https://i.imgur.com/ysMN7el.jpg) the original page
(Ishigami is the man with the shaven head).

Thank you for your help!
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manga relative-clauses transitivity subjects object
負かした俺: who beat whom in this relative clause?
> 「なんで馬場{ばば}ジムはどいつもこいつも負{ま}かした俺{おれ}を頼{たよ}りにしてくんだか… 所沢君{ところざわくん}に続{つづ}いて・・」

You are reading the 「負かした俺」 part the other way around. The one who has been
beaten is the speaker and the one who beat the speaker is 馬場ジム (or someone
from that gym).

「所沢君に続いて」 means 「所沢君に続いて **君までも** 」, which is what the speaker refers to by
「どいつもこいつも」. 「どいつもこいつも」 is certainly often translated as "everyone", but that
is only the " ** _figurative everyone_** ".

In reality, 「どいつもこいつも」 is used when more than one person are doing the same
(kind of) thing. Furthermore, in emphatic or exaggerated speech, we quite
often use 「どいつもこいつも」 to refer to just one person when we have a strongly
negative feeling about his/her action.

> Could you also confirm that どいつもこいつも is the subject of 頼りにしてくる?

Exactly, it is. 「頼りにしてくる」 is the only "real" verb there since 「負かした」 is used
within a relative clause.
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