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I am learning kana and have some problems with similar construction. I found
an excellent source (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TohUrbpdYJY>) where Yuko
sensei described a left-start and top-start concept that works for シ vs ツ and
ン vs ソ. I suppose it's similar to the way > = and < are the same elements with
a different orientation. I'm not able to find any similar distinction between
い and り.

I can see that both have a similar J on the left with another stroke oriented
to the right and left respectively. Is there something more I should be
considering? How are these taught in Japan?

--------------Update------------------ I was able to find some help with this video showing someone hand-writing the hiragana. For now I focusing on the start, direction, and end of the characters in the 4-square graph. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQi34uKMmY>

I also found this set of instructions which does show progressively worse
examples of 0i until you end up at ri. <http://japanese-
lesson.com/characters/hiragana/hiragana_drill/hiragana01_writing.html>
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Differences between い and り
[![いandり](https://i.stack.imgur.com/j4pCF.png)](https://i.stack.imgur.com/j4pCF.png)

Both consist of a left レ-like stroke and a right J-like stroke.

The main differences are:

  * As for い, the left stroke is longer (a > b) and the whole shape fits in a horizontally long rectangle (E ≧ a);
  * As for り, the right stroke is longer (d > c) and the whole shape fits in a vertically long rectangle (d ≧ F)

Comparing these two,

  * usually d > a > c ≧ b;
  * as implied by the above, E > F.

Additionally, you may wonder if い need to be slanted like in the picture.
Practically, the answer is no (it can be a left vertical stroke + a right
stroke which is shorter), but it tends to be so than (strokes in) り.

If you have other questions, let me know.

* * *

Probably a standard instruction is [something like
this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTr3ROSU35g)
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