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During my time studying Japanese, I have come across many variations of the
～とまではいかないが (even if not) pattern, which are as follows.

  1. ～とまではいかないが

  2. ～とまではいかないとしても

  3. ～とまではいかないにしても

  4. ～とまではいかないまでも

  5. ～とまではいかなくても

  6. ～とまではいかなくとも

  7. ～とまではいかずとも

  8. ～ところまではいかずとも

  9. ～とはいかないまでも

  10. ～とはいかないにしても

**I would like to know in the first place if these are all the possible
variations of the ～とまではいかないが pattern** , as I would prefer to discover and
learn them all at once and not in dribs and drabs as till now.

Besides, I have tried to compress all these variations into a few patterns in
order to have a simpler, but at the same time complete structuring of all
these variations in my head.

～｛とは・とはまでは・ところ（は）・ところ（は）までは｝いかない｛が・としても・にしても・までも｝

～｛とは・とはまでは・ところ（は）・ところ（は）までは｝いかなく｛ても・とも｝

～｛とは・とはまでは・ところ（は）・ところ（は）までは｝いかず｛ても・とも｝

**Would these patterns of synthesis of all the variations of ～とまではいかないが be
correct and complete?**

If possible, I would like you to help me to correct and modify them as
necessary so that they collect all the variations in the simplest possible
way.
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2023-03-14T11:17:48.943
98915
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grammar expressions
Patterns of synthesis of all the variations of ～とまではいかないが
These expressions (1 to 10) are all correct, but you've "compressed" them
incorrectly.

  * とはまでは and ところはまでは are wrong. Why use two contrastive は's?
  * ところはいかないが is wrong. You have to use まで and say ところ **まで** はいかないが.
  * いかずても is wrong. This must always be いかずとも.

Also note that these can be easily split into more basic rules and patterns,
and I can easily think of many other variations including とまでいかないにしたって,
とまで言うわけでもないが, とまではいくといえなくとも, とまでじゃなくても and
とまでは言わね[ど](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/98918/5010). I felt the same
thing when you asked [this](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/98498/5010),
but there are countless combinations, so you should stop trying to "compress"
them halfway and memorize them all.
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