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Correct me if I am wrong about くれる form. It means any action which we received
from someone.

How does it change the meaning if じゃないの is added?

Example:

> 言ってくれる

> 言ってくれるじゃないの
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Verbてform + くれるじゃないの Exact meaning
First, I would like to make sure that the sentence you wanted to ask about is
actually:

> 「言ってくれるじゃないの。」

as you wrote it, and **_not_** :

> 「言ってくれる **ん** じゃないの。」

because those two sentences mean **_completely_** different things.

「言ってくれるじゃないの。」 is much more nuanced/complex than the words used might suggest.
I will talk about its grammar first, then its meaning and nuance.

「じゃない」 here is **_affirmative_**. It is not the negative 「じゃない」.

It is affirmative because the negative form of 「くれる」 will always be 「くれない」 and
it will never be 「くれるじゃない」. If someone said upon seeing my new shirt
「かっこいいじゃない！」, that would mean "That (shirt) looks great!" The negative form of
「かっこいい」 is 「かっこよくない」 and never 「かっこいいじゃない」.

Sorry for the boring explanation, but I had to explain it because I have
encountered quite a few Japanese-learners who did not know anything about the
affirmative 「じゃない」. "Quite a few" was actually an understatement.

Back to the sentence in question..

「言ってくれるじゃないの。」, therefore, means practically the same thing as 「言ってくれるね。」.

「言ってくれる」 here is nuanced as I stated above. It is **_not_** the same as the
"regular" 「言ってくれる」 that means someone tells you something (for your benefit).

**_Here, 「言ってくれる」 means that someone has the guts to tell you something
negative that others would probably hesitate to tell you_**.

Thus, a sentence like 「言ってくれるじゃないの。」 is usually **uttered with a degree of
sarcasm** in the speaker's tone.

> "Wow, you've got the guts to tell me that. Thanks!"

is the nuance of the sentence in question.
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