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I just learned about 況や and 況して, I tried to search for some detailed grammar
point but nothing...

Are they the same? I saw both mean "not to mention..." but they seem different
from the way I saw them used.

Can they be used in everyday life?

> 誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前だ！ : I will not be defeated... certainly not by you!

Is it correct if I say that? If yes what does it change to add a 「や」 to 「況して」?

> 日本の経済はやばいよね。況や起こってる政治問題。: The economy of Japan is in a bad shape... Not to
> mention the current politic issues.

Is this one correct?

Thanks!
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「[況]{いわん}や」 and 「[況]{ま}して」 usages
いわんや is archaic and is rarely used in the everyday language. However, まして or
ましてや is still used. Examples would be:

> 魚も食べられないのだから、まして肉など論外だ  
>  魚も食べられないのだから、ましてや肉など論外だ

They both have the same meaning, but ましてや gives a bit more emphasis and is
also a bit more archaic.

To your examples: `誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前だ！` does sound ungrammatical, you'd have to
say something like `誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前にはな！`.

Same for `日本の経済はやばいよね。況や起こってる政治問題`. You'd have to change it to
e.g.:`日本の経済はやばいよね。況や今の政治問題はもっとやばい。`
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