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Are `...とか他の...` and `...とかの他の...` equivalent? What is the function of the
first の in the latter example?

And why can't a の follow とか in `...とかその他...`? Or can it?
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Function of the first の in とかの他の
I'm not answering this from a linguist perspective (I'm not a student of
Japanese, just a native user). Just a warning.

It seems like these are mostly equivalent ways of saying the same thing, but
some sound more natural/awkward than others. Whether to insert a の or not
depends on the flow of a sentence, and to me a sentence with too many の (as in
とかの他の) sounds very awkward at worst, if not used sparingly. It's almost like
trying to put together a sentence while using ”well," "you know," or "um"
while thinking what to say next. Doing so doesn't really go against grammar in
loose ways but often kills the flow of sentence.
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