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I am looking for a Japanese phrase or an idiom which could be used to describe
a situation in which a person A persuades person B into doing something, not
required for the person B, but beneficial to the A.

Like selling a trekking map for a very well marked and safe path.

I tried looking for "to scare someone to do something" and got literal
脅かして～させる, which I feel is too strong (there is no direct threat). だまして
suggests deception (while A might only exaggerate certain aspects, not
necessarily lie). On the other hand 説得する does not have a negative connotation.

Is there such a phrase? Or are my concerns for the above-mentioned phrases
irrelevant?
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How to say to "persuade into doing something"?
An expression that comes to mind would be:

> 「[説]{と}き[伏]{ふ}せる」

That is stronger than 「[説得]{せっとく}する」, but it never involves threat of any
kind. All it involves is the art of conversation - [話術]{わじゅつ}.

Together with another verb, you can use it like:

> 「～～するよう（に）説き伏せる」 or
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> 「説き伏せて～～させる」

「Aは、その地図を買うよう（に）Bを説き伏せた。」

「Aは、Bを説き伏せてその地図を買わせた。」
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## 強{し}いる or 押{お}し付{つ}ける perhaps?

> 地図を強いられた
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> 地図を押し付けられた
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I would suggest
**[言いくるめる](http://jisho.org/search/%E8%A8%80%E3%81%84%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8B%E3%82%81%E3%82%8B)**
, which is like 説得する/説き伏せる, but implies the action is beneficial not to the
target but to the subject. It does have the negative connotation like 騙す, but
it's not as strong/evil/illegal as 騙す.

You can also use
[丸め込む](http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E4%B8%B8%E3%82%81%E8%BE%BC%E3%82%80) and
[口車【くちぐるま】に乗せる](http://eow.alc.co.jp/search?q=%E5%8F%A3%E8%BB%8A&ref=sa).

>   * 彼をうまく言いくるめて、地図を買わせよう。
>   * 店員に言いくるめられて、3万円もする服を買わされてしまった。別に欲しくなかったのに。
>   * 彼の口車には乗るな。 Don't be cajoled by him.
>
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