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In a story book I found this construct:

> 「sentence where one character insults another」そこまで言うか。

Literally "Does he say until there". I can only guess that it means "He went
as far as to say ..." or something like that. But it that's true, then why the
か?

It's possible that そこまで言うか is a separate sentence not attached to the quotes.
Maybe "Did he really say that?" would work. Dosen't seem like something I'd
expect the narrator (who is not part of the story) to say though.

Is this a fixed formula I should learn or am I missing the obvious
translation? Thanks.
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Meaning of そこまで言うか
It's more like accusing the other party of being a jerk.

> 「あいつは心底使えない。辞めてくれれば清々するのに」  
>  「そこまで言うか」(You guys were friends just a few days ago!)

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> 「あいつはハゲ、デブ、チビと三拍子揃ってるし、一生結婚は無理だろうな」  
>  「そこまで言うか」 ( _That's_ a bit going too far)

The `か` can express both a question or a strong emotional reaction. You can
also say そこまで言う？ but in this case, it's always a question or accusation (and
thus you must always pronounce it as a question), whereas そこまで言うか can be used
in different tones because `か` does not always indicate a question (rather, it
just indicates a strong feeling aka 感嘆). For example:

> 「お前はパチンコばっかりで、親らしいこと一回もしたことがないだろう。最低な奴だ！」  
>  「そこまで言うか。。。」 (half admitting and sad)

In the above example you can NOT use そこまで言う because it would change the
meaning.
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