The only definition i can find is that it expresses irony/rhetorical question,
but that doesnt really fit into expressions like どういうものか? etc.

So what can be the usages of ものか?
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what are the usages of ものか?
In どういうものか, this もの is just "thing", and no special grammar is involved here.
Just as どういう本か means "What kind of book is it?", どういうものか simply translates to
"What kind of thing is it?"

There are various special usages of ものか, too. Generally, you should understand
ものだ ([which by itself has verious
meanings](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/43083/5010)) first and think of
ものか as its question version.

  * [ものか in this sentence?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/96484/5010)
  * [Alternative meaning of ものか](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/66245/5010)
  * [What is the meaning of this ものか](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/97293/5010)
  * [how does te form+ なる(ものか) work?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/96058/5010)
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