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[助動詞](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8A%A9%E5%8B%95%E8%A9%9E_%28%E5%9B%BD%E6%96%87%E6%B3%95%29)
wikipedia page there is this sentence and I can't make sense of the part in
bold:

> 助詞「の」「ので」「のに」等が続く場合に使われる。連体形だが名詞を修飾することはできない。
> **なお、形容動詞を品詞と認めない立場では別の考え方になる。**

Here is my try :

> (Those 連体形 are) only used when preceding things like 「の」「のに」「ので」. However, a
> noun cannot use those 連体形 in order to modify (another element). Moreover,
> from the view point which does not recognize na-adjectives and (???) parts
> of speech, there is another way of thinking ???.

May somebody help me so as to understand this part?
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Meaning of XXをYYと認める：「形容動詞を品詞と認めない立場」
I think it's saying...

Those 連体形 (=「そうな」「べきな」「な」 and 「です」) can be followed by particles
「の」「ので」「のに」etc...

> 例: そうなの・べきなの・なの・ですの  
>  そうなので・べきなので・なので・ですので  
>  そうなのに・べきなのに・なのに・ですのに  
>

... but cannot modify nouns (=cannot be followed by nouns).

> 例: *そうな机・*べきな机・*な机・*です机  
>

By the way, those who don't recognize na-adjectives as a part of speech
(=those who deny na-adjectives) think differently (eg. they consider きれいな机 as
"きれい + 助動詞「だ(な)」+ noun", not as "na-adjective + noun").

* * *

By the way, the なお is not a 副詞/adverb ("furthermore") but a 接続詞/conjunction
("ちなみに/by the way").

XXをYYと認める means "recognize/consider XX as YY".
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