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Can たい be used to express desire for a 2nd person to do something. For
example:

> I want you to come back
>
> 戻り **たい**

I realise the proper way to do this is to use あなたに戻って欲しい, but was just
wondering if たい is also proper.
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Can たい be used to express desire for 2nd person
If you want to express desire for a 2nd person to do something, you can use
these phrase, Aに～してほしい or Aに～してもらいたい. So you can say あなたに戻ってきてもらいたい or
あなたに戻ってきてほしい.
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> Can たい be used to express desire for a 2nd person to do something.

No. The 〜たい form to express a desire or wish can only be used to express _your
own_ feelings and applies only to the 1st person ("I"). In particular, if you
say

> 戻りたい

it will always be interpreted as you yourself wanting to return / go back.

If you want to talk about someone else (2nd person "you" or 3rd person
"he/she/it") you have to use other forms of expression, such as 〜て欲しい (if you
want someone else to do something) or 〜たがる (to describe what someone else
seems to want/desire).

For more information see

  * [Can たい and たがる be used for a 1st/2nd/3rd person's desire?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/23860/1628)
  * [What difference between ほしい (hoshii) and したい (shitai)?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/41564/1628)
  * [Is ～がる suffix limited to specific adjectives only?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/1520/1628)
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