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Below is an excerpt from the " _I'm a spider, so what_ " webnovel:

> 魔物にしろ、人間にしろ、今の私には等しく強敵だ。
>
> (*)強敵と書いて、ライバル、とか、とも、とか読まない。
>
> 正真正銘命の危険が危ないってやつだ。

The starred sentence contains the unusual phrase "ライバル+とか+とも+とか".

My best guess at the meaning of (*) is "It's written as "great enemy", but
it's definitely not read as as something like rival for example."

But I'm unclear on whether that's accurate. I guessed using a particle
dictionary that the inner "とか" gives a sense of category, the "とも" emphasis
with the meaning that it would particularly offensive to read it as "ライバル",
and the outer "とか" meaning it's an example. But I am deeply unsure as to this
interpretation.

My main questions are:

What is the correct interpretation of this sentence?

What would be different semantically if we dropped the final "とか" if anything?

Since pauses in Japanese seem to fit naturally at the end of noun+particles
constructions would a pause go at the end, or would it be acceptable to put
one where the author put the commas (presumably because three glued together
would be hard on the eyes)?
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Interpretation of an unusual use of three particles in succession: " (...) ライバル、とか、とも、とか (...)"
とか is a listing particle similar to
[だの](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/a/25555/5010). It often sounds
slightly negative. ライバル and とも are both 強敵's well-known [creative
furigana](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/29431/5010) used to make it
have a double meaning. The normal kanji for とも is 友.

The とも reading was made popular by a famous manga 北斗の拳, in which the
protagonist and his enemy eventually start to respect each other as good
rivals after trying to defeat each other many times. There's an
[article](https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E5%BC%B7%E6%95%B5) about this furigana.

Aと書いてBと読む ("write A, read it as B", "this A actually means/reads B") is a
common way to explain this type of creative furigana. 本気と書いてマジと読む is [very
common](https://dictionary.sanseido-publ.co.jp/column/kanji_genzai072).

> 強敵と書いて、ライバル、とか、とも、とか読まない。  
>  Don't read this 強敵 as something like ライバル or とも.

The speaker is saying such humorous creative furigana are not intended. He
_literally_ means "great enemy", and he is not implying they are actually his
rivals or friends.

These commas are just for reading aid. The author could have used brackets
instead. Remember the rules around commas are fairly loose in Japanese. As an
aside,
[危険が危ない](https://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E5%8D%B1%E9%99%BA%E3%81%8C%E5%8D%B1%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84)
is more of a net meme, and you should not use it in formal sentences.
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