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In a manga I found the following sentence:

> ボロボロに **なろうとなんだろうと** 自分で気づくしかない

What does the `なろうとなんだろうと` means? The remaing part should mean something on
the lines of "She must notice by himself [...] if she hurt herself", and the
given translation is something like (I'm translating a translation, sorry for
any inaccuracy) "Even if she will hurt himself, he must notice it by himself".

I found a couple of questions
([here](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/11943/meaning-
of-%E3%81%A0%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86%E3%81%A8) and
[here](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/37079/what-
does-%E3%81%AA%E3%82%93%E3%81%A0%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86%E3%81%91%E3%81%A9%E3%81%AA-
mean-here)) in which part of that expressione appears, but they doesn't really
seem to apply; a Google search wasn't helpful, either, and my grammars doesn't
have that form, which maybe is a mix of multiple forms?
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Meaning of なろうとなんだろうと
I think you are translation of **ボロボロになろうと** → "Even if they will hurt
themselves a lot" is correct.

Though I can't find any reference, I think this **なんだろうと** means "or
anything", "or whatever". However, you might not need to explicitly use "or
anything", or "or whatever" since it's redundant and "even if" means
なろうとなんだろうと.

> _Even if it rains a lot, I will go to work._

"Even if" says any antecedents will not change the conclusion : "I will go to
work". (Train might prevent you from doing so though, you want go to work in
any situations)

There is an idiomatic expression using a similar structure:
[雨が降ろうと、槍が降ろうと](https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E9%9B%A8%E3%81%8C%E9%99%8D%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86%E3%81%8C%E6%A7%8D%E3%81%8C%E9%99%8D%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86%E3%81%8C/)
. 「どんな困難があってもやりとげるという強い決意のたとえ。石にかじりついても。」

> ボロボロに **なろうとなんだろうと** 自分で気づくしかない

So, add them together, " _Even if they will hurt themselves a lot (or
whatever), they need to realize on their own_ "
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> 「ボロボロになろうとなんだろうと自分{じぶん}で気{き}づくしかない。」

First, allow me to start from the basic.

> 「Verb in Volitional Form + と or が + Phrase」

is a very common expression meaning:

> "Verb + ても関係{かんけい}なく + Phrase" =
>
> "Even if [verb], [Phrase]."

Thus, 「ボロボロになろう **と** 」 means " **Even if one/you/I were torn to shreds** ".

Moving on to 「ボロボロになろうと **なんだろうと** 」...

The 「なんだろうと」 part does not really hold an independent meaning of its own. The
sentence in question would mean practically the same without 「なんだろうと」. So, why
is it there?

「なんだろうと」, in this context, simply emphasizes the sub-clause 「ボロボロになろうと」. As
one can see, 「だろうと」 and 「なろうと」 rhyme perfectly; therefore, it creates a good
rhythm that is lively and emphatic.

You will often hear phrases in the same construct such as:

・「かわいいネコちゃん **だろうがなんだろうが** 、オレは動物が苦手なんだって！」

・「東京 **だろうがどこだろうが** 行っちゃえよ。もうお前の顔は見たくねえ！」

・「森田 **だろうがだれだろうが** いらないって。オレは一人でこの仕事をしたいんだって。」

Notice that the question word changes according to what you are emphasizing --
なん、どこ、だれ、どう, etc.
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