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I'm not sure if this is the right term, but it seems like "interogative
pronouns" like 何, 幾つ, 誰 and so forth typically have Atamadaka pitches
officially in dictionaries.

Now consider the phrase

> 誰でしょう

According to the dictionary, this should be だれでしょう{HLLLLL}, and indeed here is
an example of it I found in the wild: <https://youtu.be/htycKsJg3KE?t=118>
(1m58s).

Yet here are two examples of what sounds to me like だれでしょう{LHHLLL} (where 誰
suddenly becomes Heiban):

  * <https://youtu.be/OW_KFY4r_0M?t=162> (2m42s)
  * <https://youtu.be/pGt9IXTxiag?t=90> (1m30s)

As an another example, at 2m39s in <https://youtu.be/HIqKOifGSAs?t=159>, the
speaker says

> 幾つありますか

with pitch いくつ{LHL}. But according to dictionaries it should be いくつ{HLL}.

**Question:** Am I hearing this pitch right? If so, is this part of a general
pitch accent phenomenon? Does it have a name and a well understood pattern
that can be referenced? To me it seems like Atamadaka "interrogative pronoun"
words are becoming Heiban when emphasized in a certain way.
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Pitch Accent Shifts in "Interrogative Pronouns"?
You have misheard all of the samples. The 幾つ sample is clearly atamadaka. The
other two I would classify as atamadaka with
[おそ下がり](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/a/94787/3097) (basically a
phenomenon where the accent comes a little late but still gets interpreted by
listeners as coming on the expected mora).
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