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I noticed this tweet:

> 京都人は「死ねどす」なんて言わない 殺した後に「死んではるわ」って言う

with 70K+ retweets <https://twitter.com/sc_gloom03/status/1147066611762728960>
and don't quite get why it's so popular. I half-get that it's about Kyoto
person saying "DIE!" at someone, but I don't understand the grammar enough to
get the rest.  
What's happening here and why is it so popular? Is there some peculiarity of
the dialect I'm missing here?
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translation dialects
Help with understanding nuances of extremely popular Kyoto-ben (?) tweet
First, it's two sentences, although periods are omitted.

> 京都人は「死ねどす」なんて言わない。殺した後に「死んではるわ」って言う。  
>  Kyoto people don't say "Die!" (to someone). (Instead,) They say "Oh this
> person is dead" after killing them.

I think you can get the main part of this joke from the translation. Basically
this is an ethnic joke that is making fun of the cold and sarcastic trait of
Kyoto people. 死んではる is a Kyoto-ben version of 死んでいらっしゃる. ([This
tweet](https://twitter.com/bozu_108/status/1012896046358265856) also shows the
stereotyped image of Kyoto people. Well, who said sarcasm doesn't exist in
Japan?)

In addition, 死ねどす by itself sounds funny. This どす (or どすえ, ですえ) is a
stereotyped feminine (or "geisha-ish") Kyoto-ben variant of です. Naturally, it
comes after a noun or an adjective, but not after an imperative form. A
"correct" Kyoto-ben sentence for "Die!" would be something like 死んどくれやす.
Therefore, this tweet initially looks like a serious Kyoto-ben lesson, but it
turns out to be a dirty joke in the second sentence, which makes the tweet
even funnier.
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If I'm understanding it correctly, this is a comment on the
stereotype/reputation of Kyoto-ites, as being fake or two-faced. It's saying
something like:

> A Kyoto-ite won't say "Die!" to (you); they will say "Oh, you're dead!"
> after killing (you).

Some of the comments mention `私の中のニセ京都人` (the fake Kyoto-ite within me) or
similar.

Some comments also note that the dialect grammar might not be all that
accurate, which makes the whole thing funnier/more of a caricature: 死んではるわ is
supposed to actually be 死んだはるわ; and, likewise, 死ねどす is not really that
grammatical as it would be the equivalent of 死ねです in standard Japanese, so is
really a bit odd as well as being unnecessarily polite by using どす...
obviously those "mistakes" haven't obscured the meaning of the joke, given it
has been retweeted so much.
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