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I have two questions about the と quotation particle. One about it's omission
together with connected verbs and the other about how it operates with the で
particle. I believe the bellow sentence contains an omission of と思う:

> Original: 世間では警察も無能、Lも無能.
>
> My extension: 世間では警察も無能、Lも無能と思う

The translation I have reads

> "People think [society thinks] L and the police are incompetent".

I don't see how I could've gotten that from the original. The only thing I can
think of is that と思う is being omitted, because I don't see how the sentence
makes sense otherwise.

In addition, I'd like to know how exactly the で particle operate with the と
particle here, because I don't quite understand it.

If someone could clear this up that would be great :). Thanks!

> [The context is that these are police officers and the superior is talking
> about how "L" who is a character and the police are incompetent. The example
> is from episode 10 of Death Note.]
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と quotation particle: Omission and the で particle
The omitted verb is a bit different from what you have in mind:

> 世間では警察も無能、Lも無能 **と思われている** 。  
>  In the society, it is thought that both the police and L are incompetent.

Note that I used the passive form here. The sentence is not saying "society
thinks ～" with the society as the subject. で here is a simple location marker,
" _in_ the society" (or "in the public mind").

If it were not for で, 世間 would work as the subject, so 思っている (non-passive)
would be the right omitted verb:

> 世間は警察も無能、Lも無能 **と思っている** 。  
>  The society thinks that both the police and L are incompetent.
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