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A simple question to those speaking and the native ones. What of the two forms
(potential verbs or passive voice verbs) in Japanese verbs is more frequent?

This question may seem strange, but I need to know, as there is an ichidan
ambiguity between potential and passive forms, so to make a more or less
proper decision which one form is which.

I can, of course, rely on the particles, such as Ni and Wo. But in general,
which form is less frequent? Which form do Japanese people use more often?
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What forms of verbs (potential or passive) are more frequent in Japanese?
Potential verbs are much more common than passive form. However, keep in mind
that in speech it is very common to use ら抜き言葉 also.

For example:

> 来られる #1
>
> 来れる #2

Some people actually believe that #1 is passive and #2 is potential, while
others would say that #1 is _both_ passive and potential (which is the way the
standard dialect (東京弁) deems it).

> This question may seem strange, but I need to know, as there is an ichidan
> ambiguity between Potential and Passive forms, so to make a more or less
> proper decision which one form is which.

You should generally be able to distinguish the two from context quite easily.
However, you are also missing another possibility. The られる form can also be
used as the pollite form, which is neither passive nor potential.

For example:

> 明日行かれますか?

The above should be interpreted as 敬語 and not passive.

However, going back to the passive forｍ again, I believe that one common
mistake for Japanese learners is the _overuse_ of the passive form were the
active form would be more appropriate. This happens because other languages
(such as English) use the passive form more often and in situations were
Japanese people would use the active form instead.

Example 1:

> ニュースに驚いた <\-- Not passive
>
> I was surprised at the news. <\-- Passive

Example 2:

> These cookies were made by her yesterday.
>
> これらのクッキーは昨日、彼女によって作られました。 #1
>
> 彼女が昨日これらのクッキーを作りました。#2

In the above example, #1 is a closer translation to the English equivalent.
_However,_ it should be known that while the English is quite natural
sounding, #1 would be awkward in everyday speech and it is most likely that a
Japanese person would use a similar sentence like #2.
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