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I learnt:

  * 食べるところ：about to eat.
  * 食べているところ：in the middle of eating.
  * 食べたところ：just ate.
  * 食べたばかり：just ate.

I would like to know if I can change ところ for とこ in spoken language.

and if there is any difference between 食べたところ and 食べたばかり. which one is more
rude, or more polite; and if I can use both in any situation.
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usage formal-nouns particle-ばかり
Verbs + ところ / Verbs + とこ / Verbs + ばかり
…したところ can be changed to …したとこ in informal speech.

…したところ and …したばかり are almost synonymous. I feel that …したばかり has a stronger
emphasis on how recent the event took place, and I am not very sure. There is
no difference in politeness.
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`～たところ` and `～たばかり` both mean "just did X". I was always taught that `～たところ`
means "I just did X and haven't done anything else", whereas `～たばかり` means "I
just did X (but could've been a little while ago)." The "scope" of the event
can determine the recentness.

## 例文

>   * 昼食を食べたところだ。 → I just ate lunch (right now).  
>
>
>   * （午後３：００) 昼食食べたばかりなんで、眠たい。 → (At 3:00pm) I just ate lunch (even though it
> was several hours ago), so now I'm sleepy.
>
>   * (隣の人に車を見せながら） 新しい車買ったところやで！ → (Show his neighbor) I just bought this new
> car (as in just came home from the dealership)!  
>
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>   * （電車の改札口で） 森内さん、回数券多いね。新しい車買ったばかりじゃない？ → (At the ticket gate for the
> train) Moriuchi, you sure do have a lot of commuter (train) tickets. Didn't
> you just buy a new car? (could have been several days or even a few weeks
> ago).
>
>
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Each of those phrases looks like a part of sentence made with correlative
adverbs of 呼応の副詞.

Their meanings and ending phrases are decided from adverbs preceding, and in
the case of a very short sentence with an adverb omitted like those, I guess
that those meanings just depend on the native speaker's sense after all.

```

    as an example:
    これから...するところ from now on
    今...しているところ 　now
    たった今...したところ just now
    さっき...したばかり 　a little while ago
    
```

したところ is similar to したばかり.  
とこ is abbreviated from ところ, and it is a little bit rude.
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ばかり "implies the situation is too precarious or unstable to warrant further
action" or bad timing

ところ either factual or good timing

Source: Intermediate Japanese by Tsujioka and Hamano
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