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A comment in one of my previous questions ([Why is a verb in the past (た形)
contradicted with
～ていない?](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/42242/why-is-a-verb-in-
the-past-%e3%81%9f%e5%bd%a2-contradicted-
with-%ef%bd%9e%e3%81%a6%e3%81%84%e3%81%aa%e3%81%84)) contained the following
sentence (fragment?):

> 言われてみると不思議...。

I'm not entirely certain what this means but going from context, I'd guess
maybe something along the lines of "It'd be odd if you tried to say it (like
that)..."

I'm having difficulty understanding the changing voice (active/passive) in the
verb 言われてみる. **Is this expression active or passive (or both for that
matter)?**

In addition, how would the meanings of the following differ (if the second and
third are valid of course):

>   1. 言われてみる
>   2. 言ってみられる
>   3. 言われてみられる
>
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nuances verbs passive-voice
Passive Verb + みる
> 「言{い}われてみると不思議{ふしぎ}...。」
>
> I'd guess maybe something along the lines of " _ **It'd be odd if you tried
> to say it (like that)...**_ "

Not really, it is not the speaker who said something here because 「言われる」 is
passive voice. **Another person told you something and you realize that it is
indeed odd (even though you have never given the matter much thought
before.)**

> I'm having difficulty understanding the changing voice (active/passive) in
> the verb 言われてみる. Is this expression active or passive (or both for that
> matter)?

Grammatically, the 「言われて」 part is passive and the 「みる」 part is active. More
strictly speaking, however, 「みる」 here is only a subsidiary verb; therefore, it
is only active in name, so to speak. The real verb here is 「言われる」, which is
100% passive. Thus the expression 「言われてみる」 is basically passive voice. At
least, as I said above, it is not the speaker who said something.

> "Now that you mention it ..."

would be the usual translation.

Finally, regarding the three expressions you listed at the end, 「言ってみられる」 and
「言われてみられる」 (#2 and #3) do not make sense.
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