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I was reading yotsubato! and I had a bit of trouble with
[this](https://imgur.com/a/fdKmwNr),The [English
translation](https://imgur.com/a/CSS02Y4) Says that it means I wanted ice
cream but I thought that the past for of want was たかったです
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Problem with the たい form
I would say that the English translation did not translate the phrase
literally, and that's where the confusion kicked in. The original reads:

> アイス食べたくなったから…  
>  I wanted icecream, so...

Here, the construction is 食べたい + なる, meaning "to become wanting to eat". So, a
more accurate translation would be

> アイス食べたくなったから…  
>  I became wanting to eat icecream, so...  
>  (More natural to English speakers) I became icecream-craving, so...

The verb that's put into past tense is なる, and "wanting to eat" is now an
adverbial phrase, which is tenseless. You're right about that past tense of
食べたい being 食べたかった, but that would just mean "I wanted to eat", not "I
_**became**_ wanting to eat". The なる/became signifies a transition in state,
both in English and in Japanese.

Of course, you could say the "transitioning" nuance is lost in translation,
but you can see why the translator did not chose to translate it all out,
because it kinda feels bulky and unnatural in English. However, in Japanese
it's perfectly normal.

**Grammar Summary**

You probably know this already, but なる means to "to become", and you can
become a NOUN, or an ADJECTIVE. To become a noun or an な-adjective, simply use
に before なる, to become a い-adjective, change the い into く, which is the adverb
form thereof.

> I wanna become the president.  
>  大統領 **になりたい** 。(大統領 + なる)  
>  This should be/become more secretive.  
>  もっと密か **になる** べきだ。(密か + なる)  
>  I wanna get/become faster than him  
>  彼より早 **くなりたい** な。(早い + なる)

So yeah, 食べたい + なる would then be 食べたくなる.
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