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湯 in Japanese refers to "hot water." In Chinese, it means "soup." How common
are kanji with different meanings in Chinese? Also, why do differences occur
in the first place? Were the meanings in both languages originally the same
and gradually diverged over time?
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Japanese kanji with different meanings in Chinese
When the Chinese writing system was introduced to Japan, the Japanese people
tried to incorporate the Chinese characters, or Kanji, to the words that means
the closest thing in the Japanese language. For example, the word たべる, which
is a word that probably existed before monks from China introduced Kanji to
the Japanese people. When Kanji is finally introduced, the Japanese people
find that the the kanji 食 has the closest meaning to たべる, hence how 食べる is now
written with the kanji 食. Inevitably, some meanings did not translate exactly
the same when it was introduced to the Japanese language and some differences
did arise. Now how exactly did this difference arise, it's open for debate.

Notable differences you will see are examples like 勉強 which means "to study"
in Japanese, but it means "reluctance" in Chinese. 大丈夫 which means "Are you
alright?" in Japanese and "Grown-up man" in Chinese. 手紙 which means "letter"
in Japanese, and in Chinese it means "toilet paper" (I just learned that
recently too). 高等学校 which means "high school" in Japanese and "college" in
Chinese. As for words with individual Kanji, I can't think of many right now,
but I suspect they exist as well, but majority of them I believe are compound
Kanji words.

There is another more obvious cases of difference in Japanese kanji and
Chinese kanji, and these are known as 和製漢字 (wasei-kanji, not to be confused
with 和製英語 wasei-eigo), which means Japanese created kanji. 峠 is one such
example. However in this case the Kanji itself does not exist in the Chinese
language.

Now, if your goal is to communicate effectively in both languages, it's
important to know that majority of the time Kanji in Japanese and Chinese does
actually means, or almost means the same thing, what you do need to know is
that Kanji will not be used in the same context to say the same thing in
Chinese and Japanese. For example, 食 does mean food in both Chinese and
Japanese, but you will probably not see Chinese people use the word 食 to mean
"to eat" like how the Japanese do. But in the ancient Chinese,食 also means "to
eat".For example 食之无味 。And in Cantonese 食 still means "to eat" today.For
example 食饭。These are differences in usage, not necessarily differences in
meaning.
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A [nice list](http://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/cj-false-friends.html) can be found
in [sci.lang.japan FAQ](http://www.sljfaq.org/) (which is itself worth reading
to people learning Japanese).
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I know that 鮪 (まぐろ, tuna) means "蝶鮫" (ちょうざめ, sturgeon), and that 鮭 (さけ,
salmon) means 鰒 (ふぐ,fugu) in Chinese.

It seems that the mistakes comes from reading the descriptions of the fish
without seeing actually what the writer meant. Then, interpretation errors let
to putting a fish name on another fish.

Source: 日本人の知らない日本語, volume 1.
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湯 does mean hot/boiling water in Classical Chinese (but not in modern
varieties like Mandarin or Cantonese or Min where it means "soup"). The
Classical Chinese reading is preserved in the saying 赴湯蹈火 "to step through hot
water [and] tread on fire".
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I know this was asked a long time ago, but i will answer in case someone else
wants this info.I'm more of a Chinese learner looking to also learn Japanese.
So if anyone can correct me, feel free to. Here are some words I've seen that
have the same or almost the same character and the same meanings. Sorry I
didn't include tones for all of them, I got lazy.

歌, means song, is Gē in Mandarin, uta in Japanese  
色, color, Sè in Mandarin, Iro in Japanese  
白, white, Bái, Shiro  
花, flower,Huā,Hana  
空, sky, Kong, Sora (Kong can also mean empty, or air in chinese. To mean sky,
tiankong is more specific)  
愛, love, Ai, ai. (This character is only the same when using the traditional
chinese character. The word is the same other than the falling tone in
Mandarin)  
雨 Rain, yu3, ame.  
鳥 Bird, Niao3, Tori (once again, traditional character only. The simplified is
different)  
虹 Rainbow, Hong, Hiji  
美 Beautiful, Mei3, Utsuku  
何 How, He2, Hani  
太陽 Sun/Tai4 Yang4, Tai yo1 (only the same in traditional chinese, is similar
in simplified)

Here are some that are really similar but not quite the same: 学习
Learning/Xuexi vs. 学ぶ Learning/Manabu. The first character is the same, second
is not

透明 Transparent/Tou ming vs. 透明な Transparent/ to mei na (Japanese has one more
character)

黑 Black/Hei1 vs. 黒 Black/Kuro (The box in Chinese is different, but otherwise
the character looks similar.
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约瑟夫 in Chinese is (according to Google Translate) Joseph. But in Japanese,
this is something you really shouldn't get a tattoo of! Assuming it as as
offensive as the English translation is.
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The most interesting cases in my opinion is 走｛はし｝る.

In Japanese, you know it means "to run". However, in Mandarin, 走 means "to
walk", but in classical Chinese and many modern Chinese dialects (e.g.
Cantonese), it still means "to run".

I know there are a few similar cases (meaning in Japan carried on a lost usage
found in classical Chinese) but I can't recall them from top of my head.
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