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Here is what I think the translation of **Bavarian Bierkeller** :

> 1. **Bavarian** => **Bayerische** (German) = Of or relating to or
> characteristic of Bavaria or its people.
>
> **`バイエルン`** (translated from German - **_Bayerische_** ) - Example:
> **Bavarian State Library​** = **`バイエルン州立図書館`**.
> **[Source](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AB%E3%83%B3%E5%B7%9E%E7%AB%8B%E5%9B%B3%E6%9B%B8%E9%A4%A8)**

or **`ババリア（人）の` ...** (translated from English, I suppose) - **`ババロア / ババリアの /
ババリア人の`**

>   2. **Bierkeller** => **bier** + **keller** ( _German_ ) => beer cellar (
> _English_ )
>

>
> **`ビアケラー(パブ/バー)` ** (literal translation and 'more **foreign** feeling').

Is it okay if I use pub here because in **[Oxford
Dictonary](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bierkeller)** ,
**bierkeller** means a bar or pub in Austria or Germany, especially in a
basement.

Or should I use the _Japanese_ version, **酒場** or **飲み屋** (
**[source](https://jisho.org/search/pub)** ):

```

    ビアケラー(酒場/飲み屋)
    
```

## **Conclusion of`Bavarian Bierkeller` translation:**

Variants:

1.> **`バイエルンビアケラーパブ`**

2.> **ババリア(の) ビアケラーパブ`**

3.> **ババロアビアケラー酒場'**

4.> **ババロアビアケラー飲み屋'**

5.> **バイエルンビアケラー酒場'**

6.> **バイエルンビアケラー飲み屋'**

**Questions related as follows:**

> 1.Should I use the **katakana** from _German_ or _English_ or use the
> Japanese equivalent for faithful translation, or can I use both?
>
> 2.Is there any **guide** intended for faithful translation from various
> languages adapted into Japanese language and vice versa (especially English)
> that can be used for legal or official document translation in Japan? How do
> you know which is which?
>
> 3.Which of the six do you think is the best translation that fits naturally
> into the sentence provided?

**[Source 01](https://jisho.org/word/518697a5d5dda7b2c604c0af)**

The sentence context in question:

> The **Bavarian Bierkeller** , the best German beers served in two pint
> steins, all brought ice cold to your table by waitresses in classic
> **Bavarian** dress.

Thank you very much!

本当にありがとうございます。
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How do you translate "Bavarian Bierkeller" into natural Japanese rendition? (and more)
If I were the owner of such a pub, I would go with バイエルン・ビアケラー.

  * ビアケラー酒場 and such is obviously tautological, and it sounds to me like a place where drink called ビアケラー is served. If the name ends with ビアケラー, people can guess it has something to do with beer, anyway. Actually there are some pubs named as ～ビアケラー in Japan. Alternatively, if you really need to be explicit about the fact that it's a pub, just give up using ビアケラー and use ビール酒場, ビアホール, ジャーマンパブ or such.
  * Japanese people recognize that German state as バイエルン, not ババリア. So let's forget the "English" name. ババリアン is unsafe because it's very unfamiliar and sounds too close to "barbarian". (As you may know, the Japanese sound system does not distinguish [v] and [b] sounds).
  * ババロア is also unsafe because it [specifically refers to Bavarian cream](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%90%E3%83%90%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A2). People would definitely mistake your pub as a sweets shop.
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