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A debate came up on the use of `タメ語{ご}` in [this
question](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/3480/in-customer-
settings-is-it-ok-to-ask-for-keigo-to-be-repeated-in-more-normal), and I
thought it was worth its own analysis.

The question is, does `タメ語` simply mean "casual speech", or does it mean
"speech between equals". Or something else.

The difference has implications for whether or not it might be rude in some
situations. For instance, asking an older or more experienced person to use
`タメ語` instead of `敬語{けいご}` might be rude if you're implying you are equals,
but might be okay if it just means to use everyday language.

The original debate had two native speakers disagreeing (which should be a
note to all those who hold native speaking ability as the be-all-and-end-all
of authority), so to settle this we'll need convincing references.
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word-choice slang definitions keigo
Does タメ語{ご} mean "casual speech"?
Voting for "simply casual speech" (obviously ;)). Here is [one link that shows
how using "タメ語" sometimes to seniors can better
communication](http://johou.net/syoseki/kirawarerukeigo.html). IMO the writer
here is using it to simply mean "casual speech".  
Online definitions such as
[these](http://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%82%BF%E3%83%A1%E3%82%B0%E3%83%81/%E3%82%BF%E3%83%A1%E8%AA%9E)
also tend to focus on the description of the nature of the speech.

However, the etymology of this term is "speech between equals" so I'd think
some would find the word loaded.

The word itself is slangy and comes from gambling, and was traditionally used
among gangs etc. So if you'd use to a nice lady or teachers, or company
bosses, it would sound weird and rude because it's kinda like saying "what the
hell" or something to such groups. IMO it's not necessarily rude _because_ it
implies that the other party is equal (which I think the word doesn't).

For example, I might ask a senior person タメ語でいいですか？ to become more friendly.
If you are sufficiently familiar with the person and the person is "within
range" you could use タメ語, I find this perfectly ok. Or you could use
タメ語でお願いします if a senior person is using 敬語 to you. This can even indicate
_more_ respect, because you are asking the other guy not to use 敬語. Because
it's a slang though, you have to be a bit careful to whom you can use it. E.g.
teenager to 20 something-ish senior in バイト setting should be fine.

タメ語 switching is an extremely delicate matter, so I won't recommend anyone to
try it too easily. Although if it's clear you are not a native, people would
be less likely to be offended when you make wrong moves.
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