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In a grammar textbook I have, there is this phrase:

>
> 幸{さいわ}い日本{にほん}で日本語{にほんご}を勉強{べんきょう}して、かなり話{はな}せるようになりました。日本{にほん}に行{い}っただけのことはありました。

The translation given is:

> Fortunately, I studied Japanese in Japan and now I can speak it fairly well.
> I didn't go to Japan for nothing.

The thing that confuses me is in that last part, where the translation is "I
didn't go to Japan for nothing".

It seems to me that `だけのことがありました` literally translates to something like
"there was just that thing". `だけ`, to me, implies exclusion of other things.

So to me, the sentence should be something like "That's all I went to Japan
for", or perhaps "That's all I got from being in Japan". The way I read it has
more of a negative implication than the given translation.

What am I not understanding about this phrase in order to see how the given
translation makes sense? Or perhaps is the given translation not as good as it
could be?
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Shouldn't this phrase using だけのこと mean "just for that"?
The given translation is a good one.

Given some scale, `だけ` either excludes the lower side or the higher side of
the standard. Probably you only knew the usage of excluding the higher side.
That usage is more common.

  * Excluding the higher side of a scale: 'no more than', 'nothing other than (= only)'

>     * 寿司だけを食べた 'I ate {nothing other than/only/ at most} sushi'

  * Excluding the lower side of a scale: 'no less than', 'as much as'

>     * 日本に行っただけのことはあった 'It (= the outcome) was worth {no less than/as much
> as} (the cost/effort/etc. of) going to Japan'
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I think a slightly more literal translation, that still flows nicely in
English, would be, "It was worth going to Japan just for that." or maybe "I
went (could have gone?) to Japan for that alone."
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I think the source of your initial confusion is that there's some ambiguity in
the phrase "didn't do X for nothing." In the above translation, it seems to
mean "fortunately, my time in Japan didn't go to waste" but I think the more
common use is to kind of sarcastically remind someone of the reason or purpose
of something. Something like, "I didn't bake all these cookies for nothing,
you know!" or "They don't call it Death Valley for nothing!"
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Some of the other answers try to connect the meaning of the idiom だけのことはある to
“just” or “only,” which is one of the meanings of だけ, but I do not think that
it is the right way to analyze this idiom.

だけ means “extent.” It sometimes means some kind of limitation on the extent,
but not always.

For example, if you go to buy a cloth and are asked how much you need, you can
show the length of the cloth you need with your hands and say,

> これだけください。 I would like this much.

(Depending on the context, this sentence can mean “I would like only this.” In
the Tokyo dialect, これだけ is pronounced LHHH in the the first case and LHHL in
the second case, where L and H mean low and high pitches.)

The literal translation of the sentence

> 日本に行っただけのことはありました。

would be “There was something to the extent that I went to Japan.” In your
context, the “something” refers to the fact that the speaker improved his/her
Japanese language skills, and the speaker is saying that it was worth visiting
Japan.
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Quoting entry 【だけ】no. 3-2 from Daijisen :

> 多く「…だけあって」「…だけのことはある」「…だけに」の形で、素質・能力・価値が相応に発揮される意を表す。

Entry no 3 from Daijirin:

> 物事の状態がそれにふさわしいという気持ちを表す。「だけに」「だけあって」の形を取ることが多い。

which is: it shows that it is deserving of a certain characteristic, ability,
or value due to what is said.

Therefore, in your example, "I went to Japan" therefore it is just deserving
that "I'm able to speak Japanese".

Examples:

> 令嬢 **だけに** 、社交辞令も上手で話し方も品がある。  
>  _As expected of a daughter of nobility, she's good at social manners and is
> well-spoken. "_
>
> 北海道 **だけあって** 、冬がとても寒いし雪もよく積もる。  
>  Hokkaido, worthy of its name, the winter is very cold and the snow piles up
> real good.

p/s: please comment my Japanese grammar/English translation, I think it may
need fixing.
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I came across this today in the Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar, and
remembered this question. I'm posting here even after all this time because it
offers some translation examples that haven't yet appeared in this thread. The
description it gives is:

> A phrase expressing an evaluative component regarding how s.t. is
> contributing to an expected, remarkable result

(This description isn't particularly helpful to me, but it may be to someone.)

And some possible English translations:

  * don't do s.t. for nothing;
  * ~explains it
  * no wonder~
  * it's no surprise that~

It also states that さすが is commonly used with the phrase to further emphasise
the sense of "expectedness":

> [reason for expectation]。 さすがに [remarkable result] だけのことはある。

So while I can't give info on the origin or word-by-word breakdown of the
phrase, it is considered enough of a standalone "set phrase" to have its own
entry in a grammar dictionary.
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