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I was trying to say

> I'll give you a chance when I learn to love again

I thought that I have to say something like

> 再び愛することを **学んだら**...何かする

because that time of learn how to love again will come for sure and if I
remember accurately that it was the only condition to use たら as "When.." but
this other sentence come to my mind too

> 再び愛することを **学んだときに**...何かする

and now I'm really confuse if there are equivalents, if there are a correct
one and which? and why the other is wrong?
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grammar english-to-japanese conditionals
are たときに and たら equivalent?
たら can be hypothetical (i.e., "if"), but たときに cannot.

  * 明日雪が降ったら、...  
If it snows tomorrow...

  * 明日雪が降ったときに、...  
When it snows tomorrow (and I know it will), ...

Likewise, depending on the context, 学んだら can sound like you may or may not
learn something in the future. You can usually tell if a certain たら is
hypothetical from the context.

That said, 学ぶ is usually used in educational contexts, and 再び愛することを学ぶ already
sounds a little weird to me. Isn't something like 再び愛せるようになったら (or なったときに)
enough?
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たら indicates that something happens, as described in the main clause, when the
circumstance described in the subordinate clause (i.e. before たら) comes true.
If it is likely to happen, たら is usually translated with _when_ in English,
and if it is less certain, it may be translated with _if_. This is a
distinction English makes. In Japanese, the basic idea is the same regardless
of the likelihood.

The difference from 〜た時に is that it puts focus on a (usually one-time)
condition rather than timing. For example, when you say 再び愛せるようになっ **たら** ,
you mean that you learning to love again is a necessary condition for doing
whatever is stated in the main clause. In general, when you talk about such a
condition, you are either consciously or unconsciously thinking about a
possibility of it not being met. When you say 再び愛せるようになっ **た時に** , on the
other hand, you are more likely assuming that that time will come.
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