I was watching a Japanese animation "Fruits Basket" (2019 version), and the
protagonist kept using "ですのに" and "ますのに". I thought it sounded strange. I
searched Google with the exact quote and the hit count was a few tens of
millions. The first page showed sentences including "ですのに", but since Japanese
has no spaces, I am not sure if that hit count is accurate. [One grammar page
from the Tokyo University of Foreign
Studies](http://www.coelang.tufs.ac.jp/mt/ja/gmod/contents/explanation/082.html)
says

> 「のに」は丁寧形につくことはありません。

So, if that page is correct, "ですのに"/"ますのに" are wrong. But textbook grammar and
current colloquial grammar could be different. I wonder how acceptable they
are. Do most people think they are wrong?
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How acceptable are ですのに/ますのに?
Both of them sound natural as far as charactors of fictional works are
concerened. As you may know, some of them speak differently from us for
exaggeration, etc. e.g. 今日は晴天ですのに家に閉じこもられて〜 あの子は運動ならいくらでもしますのに勉強は〜

When it comes to real conversation, we seldom hear them. It sounds too polite
or pretending noble, or otherwise joking.
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