I know how to say "without" when it comes to verbs using 〜ないで. But I was
wondering how to use "without" when it comes to nouns. For example:

> I left without my wallet.

or

> I left without my glasses.

Sometimes I see なしに or なしで after a noun, and I wonder what the difference
between them is and how to use them. How do I say "without (noun)" using なしに
or なしで?
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How do I say "without (noun)" using なしに or なしで?
なし isn't really used this way. Just in terms of how the language works
idiomatically, I've more often heard this expressed by using a different verb
first:

  * XX を忘れて出かけました。  
I forgot my XX and left. → I left without my XX.

  * XX をテーブルに置いたまま出かけちゃった。  
I put XX on the table, and with it still there, I left → I left with XX still
on the table.
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I've googled and found this article, which makes sense to me.
<http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/894749.html>

Concrete examples to your asked usage of なしで or なしに could be

```

    地図なしに、旅行はできない
    地図なしで、旅行はできない
    
```

which both sounds to be proper Japanese (for me). Their translation would be,
as you might already knew, `Without map, I cannot travel.`

Their difference, I am still not very clear. I assume they are generally the
same.
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