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Please help me understand this たる!

> 焼きたる  
>  在りたる

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Please help me understand this たる?
They are the same as 焼いた人器 and いた時, respectively, but said in an archaic
fashion.

Several things happening here. First, ある is used instead of いる because ある
could safely be used with animate objects in archaic Japanese.

> 人あり。 (archaic)  
>  ≒ 人がいる。 (modern Japanese)  
>  ≒ There is a person.

たる is the attributive form of the [Japanese archaic auxiliary verb
たり](http://www.hello-school.net/haroajapa009006.htm), which describes the
perfect aspect or the continuation of state (not past tense, strictly
speaking). Attributive form is a verb form used to modify the following noun.

> 声を聞きたり。 (archaic)  
>  ≒ 声を聞いた。 (modern Japanese)  
>  ≒ I have heard a voice.
>
> 聞きたる声 (archaic)  
>  ≒ 聞いた声 (modern Japanese)  
>  ≒ the voice which I (have) heard

While たり/たる works very similarly to so-called ta-form in modern Japanese, one
exception is that it follows the masu-stem of verbs. In archaic Japanese, so-
called "te-form" or "ta-form" did not exist. What we know as "te-form" or "ta-
form" today is a result of relatively recent sound changes called 音便（おんびん）.
[See this chart for details](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/a/17497/5010).
In fact, in Japanese school grammar, 焼き and 焼い or 在り and 在っ are treated as
[the same conjugation form called
連用形](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/q/24033/5010) ("continuative form").

BTW, I feel the latter example, 在りたる時, may not be quite natural from the
historical standpoint. It may have to be 在りし時 using し, the attributive form of
the archaic auxiliary verb き denoting past. I'd like to see opinions from
other people who are better at archaic Japanese.
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