Please go easy on me if this seems too basic and obvious, I'm a beginner.

I always had the impression that there were counters that went with the native
Japanese numbers and counters that went with the Sino Japanese numbers.

But now I'm wondering if I'm wrong and that only the Sino Japanese numbers are
used with all counters except for some exceptions:

  * ～つ always uses native Japanese numbers:  
ひとつ、ふたつ、みっつ

  * For counting people, only "one" and "two" use native Japanese with ～り and all other numbers use Sino Japanese with ～にん:  
ひとり、ふたり、さんにん

For some reason I find it hard to search for this and what I do find seems to
be poorly worded and convoluted such that I can't extract this little fact
from the discussions easily at all.
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Are ～つ and ～り the only two counters that can occur with the native Japanese numbers (ひと～, ふた～, etc)?
Counters for days also use Japanese numerals, from 2 to 10: ふつか, みっか, よっか... .
20th also uses a native counter: はつか.

Some day numbers use mixed counters (14, 24): じゅうよっか, にじゅうよっか.
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Chinese-derived numbers might be more common (although I don't know by what
margin), but native-Japanese counter words are also ubiquitous.

To quote the first page (of 319 pages) from the counter word dictionary
数え方の辞典,

> アース  
>  ▲本
>
> アーチ  
>  ▲本
>
> アーティチョーク  
>  ▲本 ●株【かぶ】 ▲個
>
> アーム  
>  ▲本
>
> アーモンド  
>  ●粒 ▲個
>
> 合い鍵  
>  ▲本
>
> アイコン  
>  ▲個
>
> 挨拶  
>  ●言【こと】
>
> アイス  
>  ▲個 ▲片【へん】 ●かけ
>
> アイスキャンディー  
>  ▲本
>
> アイスクリーム  
>  ▲個 ▲本 ●箱【はこ】 ●玉【たま】 ▲●★パック ●皿
>
> アイスピック  
>  ▲本
>
> アイスペール  
>  ▲個
>
> アイスボックス  
>  ▲個
>
> * * *
>
> ▲=漢語数詞 (Chinese-derived numbers)  
>  ●=和語数詞 (native Japanese numbers)  
>  ★=英語数詞 (English-derived numbers)

(The dictionary gives usage notes for each entry, which I have omitted here.)

The general rule is that Chinese-derived numbers go well with 音読み counter
words, Japanese numbers go well with 訓読み words, and all three of Chinese-
derived, Japanese and English numbers go well with (non-Chinese) foreign
words.
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