<transcript><audio_134>saw that road methane clean shared vision kind of happens here in the middle right so we've now discovered a whole big milestone and a big chunk of work that has to happen that cliche</transcript><transcript><audio_135>vision is sort of dependent on so milestones we broke that out into some milestones like how are we gonna know when we're getting towards these like we're getting towards these types of things and they came up with milestones again</transcript><transcript><audio_136>these are not milestones that you should copy down and use in your team they're very specific to the team but they one that was really interesting to me was this one this idea that people weren't doing releases they had one team that</transcript><transcript><audio_137>did releases no one else knew how to do a release like you could say go release the product and they wouldn't have so they identified that as a thing like when everyone on the team has done a release we'll know we're getting somewhere but first they were like we want our</transcript> saw that road methane clean shared vision kind of happens here in the middle right so we've now discovered a whole big milestone and a big chunk of work that has to happen that cliche vision is sort of dependent on so milestones we broke that out into some milestones like how are we gonna know when we're getting towards these like we're getting towards these types of things and they came up with milestones again these are not milestones that you should copy down and use in your team they're very specific to the team but they one that was really interesting to me was this one this idea that people weren't doing releases they had one team that did releases no one else knew how to do a release like you could say go release the product and they wouldn't have so they identified that as a thing like when everyone on the team has done a release we'll know we're getting somewhere but first they were like we want our
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