<transcript><audio_234>though is that you can never not come back and I think that that is how they they feel in in my experience that is how they they test the uniqueness of Iceland you go abroad you see what's</transcript><transcript><audio_235>happening in England you see what they go to England America and Denmark in particular and then you come back with it with a sort of renewed sense a more sophisticated sense of what's different about Iceland and I think that that is important in terms of intelligence and I</transcript><transcript><audio_236>think that's the same here you know I think most Australians that I know have felt it important to travel because there is this perception that we're a long way away one of the interesting things about that of course is that we're defining a long way away</transcript><transcript><audio_237>in terms of Europe we have a perception of Australia as apart but it's a part it's not it's not really all that apart from its near neighbours but culturally and in terms of a sort of development as individuals we feel that we have to go</transcript><transcript><audio_238>back to Europe and I know that a lot to change in the last 20 years around that and that the the bright people don't all feel like they have like Clive James and so don't though we don't all have to go to England to make it but I still think there's a remnant of that in the way we think about travel that you have to</transcript><transcript><audio_239>travel in order to be intelligent yeah perhaps with slightly less strong imperative to actually come back yea though Iceland yes yes perhaps a lot of people end up staying out there and you think of Clive James and Germaine Greer</transcript><transcript><audio_240>and Peter coordinates on those people left and stayed I think it's odd that they don't come back either whereas no Iceland they think it's odd that someone doesn't come back yes yes that's that's</transcript><transcript><audio_241>good point yeah well I think I think I revealed of course the first thing that an illegitimate child does to a family when when he or she turns out he's reveal a reality that that was not recognized before you know that so</transcript> though is that you can never not come back and I think that that is how they they feel in in my experience that is how they they test the uniqueness of Iceland you go abroad you see what's happening in England you see what they go to England America and Denmark in particular and then you come back with it with a sort of renewed sense a more sophisticated sense of what's different about Iceland and I think that that is important in terms of intelligence and I think that's the same here you know I think most Australians that I know have felt it important to travel because there is this perception that we're a long way away one of the interesting things about that of course is that we're defining a long way away in terms of Europe we have a perception of Australia as apart but it's a part it's not it's not really all that apart from its near neighbours but culturally and in terms of a sort of development as individuals we feel that we have to go back to Europe and I know that a lot to change in the last 20 years around that and that the the bright people don't all feel like they have like Clive James and so don't though we don't all have to go to England to make it but I still think there's a remnant of that in the way we think about travel that you have to travel in order to be intelligent yeah perhaps with slightly less strong imperative to actually come back yea though Iceland yes yes perhaps a lot of people end up staying out there and you think of Clive James and Germaine Greer and Peter coordinates on those people left and stayed I think it's odd that they don't come back either whereas no Iceland they think it's odd that someone doesn't come back yes yes that's that's good point yeah well I think I think I revealed of course the first thing that an illegitimate child does to a family when when he or she turns out he's reveal a reality that that was not recognized before you know that so
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