<transcript><audio_19> ...</transcript><caption><image_20>The image shows an elderly man sitting at a desk in a formal setting. He is wearing a dark suit and tie and appears to be signing a document. The desk is covered with papers and there are two microphones in front of him. Behind him, there is a large marble wall with a floral pattern. The man is looking down at the desk with a serious expression on his face.</caption><transcript><audio_21> entre la France et le Vatican. J'émets donc un avis défavorable à votre amendement. Merci Madame la Ministre. Peut-être que vous avez convaincu Monsieur Bernalicis de retirer son amendement. Je crois que c'est raté Monsieur le Président. Mais bien tenté, bien tenté.</transcript><caption><image_22>The image shows a man standing behind a podium in a parliamentary chamber. He is wearing a grey suit and a white shirt. He has a beard and is looking down at his hands as he speaks into a microphone. The chamber has red seats and a wooden panel with numbers on it. The man appears to be giving a speech or presentation.</caption><transcript><audio_23> Pas terrible comme argumentation à vrai dire, mais je vais m'en expliquer tout de suite. C'est-à-dire que c'est quand même assez étrange. Madame la ministre, je crois que vous avez une solide formation de droit et que vous m'invoquiez la coutume,</transcript><transcript><audio_24> diplomatique, tout ça me paraît juridiquement un peu faible, pour reprendre parfois des arguments que vous utilisez. Plus sérieusement, vous savez que, vous l'avez dit,</transcript><caption><image_25>The image shows a man in a suit speaking into a microphone in a parliamentary chamber. He appears to be giving a speech or presentation, as he is holding the microphone in his right hand and is gesturing with his left hand as he speaks. The chamber is filled with red seats and there is a podium in the background. The man is wearing a white shirt and a red tie, and his hair is neatly combed. He looks focused and engaged in the speech.</caption> religious power to the president of the republic who obviously gives no allegiance to the religious authority in question this title so much simply to strengthen religions diplomatic and historical relations of understanding and trust between France and the Vatican I therefore liked a  unfavorable opinion on your amendment thank you Madam Minister perhaps you convinced Mr Bernalicis to withdraw his amendment I think it failed Mr President but nice try nice try either I found it not great as an argument to tell the truth  but I will explain it straight away, that is to say that I am still quite strange, Madam Minister, I believe that you have solid legal training and that you even invoke custom, tradition or diplomatic courtesy all that  seems to me legally a little weak to sometimes take up arguments that you use more seriously if you know that you
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