<transcript><audio_9> intentar reducir la presencia de una persona a algo que se pueda cuantificar, ya sea que incluso estemos hablando de los logros o de los méritos. Me pareciera que el</transcript><transcript><audio_10> delimitado el haber revelado la posibilidad de un camino muchos dirán que lo importante en Ortiz lo relevante en Ortiz será su teoría yo no creo que exista</transcript><transcript><audio_11> que existe un camino, que él ha estado transitando y que nos invita y un poco el mérito va a ser esa invitación permanente mira, Ortiz, dicen que ya no está con nosotros, y sin embargo sigue siendo</transcript><caption><image_12>The image is a close-up portrait of an elderly man. He is wearing a suit and tie and has a gold chain around his neck. He has white hair and is wearing glasses. The background is blurred, but it appears to be a room with a patterned wallpaper. The man is looking directly at the camera with a serious expression on his face.</caption> will always be unfair to try to reduce the presence of a person to something that can be quantified, whether we are even talking about achievements or doctors, it seems to me that the  The role of Ortiz's contribution would be to have delimited and revealed the possibility of a path. Many will say that what is important in Ortiz. What is relevant for you will be his theory. I do not believe that there is a theory. I believe that there is a path that he has been on.  passing through and that it invites us and a little the merit is going to be that permanent invitation mira ortiz says that he is no longer with us and yet it continues to be something that
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