<transcript><audio_10> Unidas las dos cosas. O sea que siempre me ha interesado mucho la gente que sube hacia arriba y que son los que van a tener que ser el estandarte de la ciencia del futuro y la ciencia del aquí y ahora, que es lo que hacemos con el Grupo...</transcript><transcript><audio_11> ¿De pequeñita querías ser científica o eso vino más tarde? Uh, mucho más tarde. De pequeñita quería tener una papelería. Ha cambiado un poquito, ¿eh? Sí, pero es que me encantaban los papeles, los lápices, los bolis. ¿Y cuándo es ese mucho más tarde?</transcript><caption><image_12>The image shows a man and a woman sitting on a stage in front of a large screen. The man is on the left side of the image, wearing a white jacket and jeans, and the woman on the right side is wearing a pink sweater and black pants. They are both looking at each other and appear to be engaged in a conversation. On the screen behind them, there are three images of women, one of whom is smiling and the other two are looking at the man. The background of the screen is blue with the words "dones de" written in white. There is also a small image of a woman in a black dress on the bottom right corner.</caption><transcript><audio_13> ¿Por qué surge esa chispa de investigación? Pues mira, fíjate, lo mío fue muy tardío, porque yo hasta después de terminar la tesis y hacer el postdoc, realmente no sentí que lo que estaba haciendo era importante y que lo que estaba haciendo</transcript><transcript><audio_14> me gustaba, me llenaba la vida, me divertía, me lo pasaba bien. Porque al principio, bueno, pues hice... A lo mejor no tuve mucha suerte, ¿no? Y las cosas que me tocaron hacer, pues no... Ni fueron muy gratificantes, ni...</transcript><transcript><audio_15> Y después es cuando me di cuenta que lo que hacía podía servir para algo, podía servir para cosas de las que tenemos en nuestra vida común. Y, por ejemplo, empecé a hacer cintas para registro magnético. Ahora eso se ha quedado viejo, pero no sé si la</transcript> life to teaching and research.  Putting the two things together, that is, I have always been very interested in the people who rise to the top and who are the ones who are going to have to be the banner of the science of the future and the science of the Here and Now, which is what we do with the group  research when I was little I wanted to be a scientist or that came more later Uh much later when I was little I wanted to have a stationery store it has changed a little eh Yes but the thing is that I loved the papers the pencils the pens and when is that much later How does that spark arise from research Well look Look, mine was very late because until after finishing the thesis and doing the postdoc I didn't really feel that what I was doing was important and that what I was doing also I liked it, it filled my life I had fun I had a good time because at the beginning Well, I did what  better not  I was very lucky, no, and the things that I had to do were not very rewarding, nor did I fully understand them, you know, and then when I realized that what I was doing could be useful for something, it could be useful for things we have in our lives. common and for example I started to make tapes for magnetic recording, now that has become old but I don't know if
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