<transcript><audio_172>um who are the other people i saw i saw robert buckland um i went up to him and i said he's the former justice minister i said don't you think you ought to be on this list and he kind of gave me some smile um john whittingdale again i got him to</transcript><transcript><audio_173>look at the odds i didn't photograph him some of these other people but um yeah i mean i'm also interested in this idea of uh whether there'll be a televised debate how many people you know would or wouldn't be and i</transcript><transcript><audio_174>think your point about uh how quickly you want to you know about if you want to undermine the feeling in democracy then you'll put more people there uh with stalking horses who don't have a chance and stuff like that yeah i mean you've got to think of the</transcript><caption><image_175>The image is a split screen of two men. On the left side, there is a close-up of a man's face. He is bald and wearing glasses. He appears to be speaking into a microphone. The background is blurred, but it seems to be an outdoor setting with trees and a blue sky.

On the right side of the image, there are two men wearing headphones. The man on the left is wearing a blue jacket and has a serious expression on his face.</caption><transcript><audio_176>tactics of it and what is the objective and yeah you know um so if objective number one is to confuse then i mark you totally right</transcript><transcript><audio_177>i mean that's a secondary consideration that doesn't do any harm you know it's kind of like a you know a an added bonus they'll yeah things are already quite good for them in that and the only people that are really going to put themselves forward are</transcript> um who are the other people i saw i saw robert buckland um i went up to him and i said he's the former justice minister i said don't you think you ought to be on this list and he kind of gave me some smile um john whittingdale again i got him to look at the odds i didn't photograph him some of these other people but um yeah i mean i'm also interested in this idea of uh whether there'll be a televised debate how many people you know would or wouldn't be and i think your point about uh how quickly you want to you know about if you want to undermine the feeling in democracy then you'll put more people there uh with stalking horses who don't have a chance and stuff like that yeah i mean you've got to think of the tactics of it and what is the objective and yeah you know um so if objective number one is to confuse then i mark you totally right i mean that's a secondary consideration that doesn't do any harm you know it's kind of like a you know a an added bonus they'll yeah things are already quite good for them in that and the only people that are really going to put themselves forward are
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