<transcript><audio_10>you know the arguments in the hacker world if it's pwn or poon so we're going to go with pwn because that sounds a little bit better so uh oh look go ask give your give your little bit of an intro</transcript><transcript><audio_11>and both myself yeah we'll click over to you i'm security researcher for already more than 10 years and working for microfocus spotify</transcript><transcript><audio_12>and i'm happy to to have chance to work with spawntaster for a couple of years already and it's our fourth uh shirt research and i'm happy with this results and hope to</transcript><transcript><audio_13>get something similar in the next years absolutely before i i will retire yeah so that's a good segue actually to talk uh while we're waiting for people to come up with some good questions for you um tell us a little bit about</transcript><transcript><audio_14>some of the uh this is definitely not your first talk here at defcon so just briefly give us some background on where you came from and what the earlier talks were so that people know</transcript><transcript><audio_15>how to reach back and find you in the archives and then maybe touch on how does this one feel different than the other talks that</transcript><transcript><audio_16>okay um so i think the first one that we did together was um friday the 13th uh json attacks no actually it was uh sorry it was gnar injections and it was first one a defcon or just a</transcript><transcript><audio_17>just a black hat you're right so the the first one that we presented together was the jnbi injection that the full title was something like</transcript><transcript><audio_18>uh jndi injection um uh how how was that like dreamland to see something yeah not like a trip into rc i don't know i don't remember the title anymore that was around uh jndi</transcript><transcript><audio_19>injection in in java world there are ecosystems which was then used for many of the visualization gadgets so that was a a good one and then before</transcript> you know the arguments in the hacker world if it's pwn or poon so we're going to go with pwn because that sounds a little bit better so uh oh look go ask give your give your little bit of an intro and both myself yeah we'll click over to you i'm security researcher for already more than 10 years and working for microfocus spotify and i'm happy to to have chance to work with spawntaster for a couple of years already and it's our fourth uh shirt research and i'm happy with this results and hope to get something similar in the next years absolutely before i i will retire yeah so that's a good segue actually to talk uh while we're waiting for people to come up with some good questions for you um tell us a little bit about some of the uh this is definitely not your first talk here at defcon so just briefly give us some background on where you came from and what the earlier talks were so that people know how to reach back and find you in the archives and then maybe touch on how does this one feel different than the other talks that okay um so i think the first one that we did together was um friday the 13th uh json attacks no actually it was uh sorry it was gnar injections and it was first one a defcon or just a just a black hat you're right so the the first one that we presented together was the jnbi injection that the full title was something like uh jndi injection um uh how how was that like dreamland to see something yeah not like a trip into rc i don't know i don't remember the title anymore that was around uh jndi injection in in java world there are ecosystems which was then used for many of the visualization gadgets so that was a a good one and then before
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