<transcript><audio_220> D'ailleurs, si vous aimez les mauvais arguments, j'en ai un autre à vous donner pour préférer ma définition de la démocratie basée sur la délibération collective et la recherche de consensus. Je peux mobiliser l'argument de l'ancienneté. De l'Antiquité jusqu'à Condorcet, en 1790, aucun philosophe</transcript><transcript><audio_221> un système où les citoyens ne se déplacent que pour voter individuellement, sans jamais parler, délibérer, chercher des compromis, sans pouvoir même modifier des lois avant de les voter. Condorcet est le premier utilisateur connu en France du terme « démocratie représentative »</transcript><transcript><audio_222> oligarchie par les citoyens. Avant lui, seul l'américain Hamilton avait osé ce terme en 1777. Mais avant Condorcet, aucun philosophe n'avait même utilisé le mot majorité dans sa définition de la démocratie. Depuis la Grèce antique,</transcript><transcript><audio_223> démocratie, même une oligarchie n'aurait jamais été considérée comme ayant le pouvoir si elle ne se réunissait pas en assemblée pour délibérer, et se contentait de voter à la majorité sans chercher de compromis auparavant. Quant à la méthode Borda, en fait, elle n'a même pas été inventée</transcript><transcript><audio_224> au XVIIIe siècle, c'était déjà la méthode par laquelle votait le Sénat romain pendant toute la République. Il n'y a qu'avec l'avènement de l'Empire romain que cette méthode a été abandonnée. Jusqu'à la veille de la Révolution française, même si la définition de la démocratie comme dictature de la majorité commençait</transcript> right besides if you like bad arguments I have another to give you to prefer my definition of democracy based on collective deliberation and the search for consensus I can mobilize the argument of the antiquity until Condorcet in 1790 no philosopher has ever thought of calling democracy a system where citizens only move to vote individually without ever speaking deliberately seeking compromises without  to even be able to modify laws before voting on them condorcet is the first known user in France of the term representative democracy and the election of an oligarchy by citizens before him only the American Hamilton had dared this term in  1777 but before Condorcet no philosopher had even used the word majority in his definition of democracy since ancient Greece from which the word democracy comes to us even an oligarchy would never have been considered to have power if it did not meet in  assembly to deliberate and simply vote by majority without seeking compromise beforehand regarding the bordas method in fact it was not even invented by jean charles de borda in the 18th century it was already the method by  which the Roman Senate voted for throughout the Republic. It was only with the advent of the Roman Empire that this method was abandoned until the eve of the French Revolution even if the definition of democracy as dictatorship of  the majority began to
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