<transcript><audio_89>month for somebody it's years but still for me it's my target it's it's it's my passion in that areas not just talking deathcon defcon it's results if you have results you can present it at defcon if you do not have results</transcript><transcript><audio_90>let's wait let's try other other direction but you need to like this without passion it's difficult i love that you two said uh really quite different things there in one case you have hey i was reading</transcript><transcript><audio_91>an article and then i thought really deep about that article but it seemed like it was something different from your previous research and then the other answer would be i just really like this stuff and i learned everything i could about it so</transcript><transcript><audio_92>it's it's nice to hear the two different two different sides if not the two different sides about how to approach a new topic and how to find something cool in it which is probably why they work together so well and have had</transcript><transcript><audio_93>so much great research through the years we have very different approaches for for everything so it's it's like even research is different i'm one thing and one approach although it's just a completely different</transcript> month for somebody it's years but still for me it's my target it's it's it's my passion in that areas not just talking deathcon defcon it's results if you have results you can present it at defcon if you do not have results let's wait let's try other other direction but you need to like this without passion it's difficult i love that you two said uh really quite different things there in one case you have hey i was reading an article and then i thought really deep about that article but it seemed like it was something different from your previous research and then the other answer would be i just really like this stuff and i learned everything i could about it so it's it's nice to hear the two different two different sides if not the two different sides about how to approach a new topic and how to find something cool in it which is probably why they work together so well and have had so much great research through the years we have very different approaches for for everything so it's it's like even research is different i'm one thing and one approach although it's just a completely different
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