<caption><image_38>The image shows a person's hand holding a red smartphone with a red triangle symbol on the screen. The background is dark and there is a laptop visible in the background. The person appears to be typing on the laptop, suggesting that they are working on a project. The image conveys a sense of urgency and danger.</caption><transcript><audio_39>and that time it says that it was a kind of a clickbait you click on something and your phone would get infected with malware after that a host of international organizations including</transcript><transcript><audio_40>alphabet stroke google microsoft and others also said that this was against their interest so at one level we have big tech in america also very unhappy with all that's</transcript><transcript><audio_41>happened now as for and on the israel side the nso group spokespersons are flatly denying everything but and this is an important part even as they are denying that you know it's</transcript><caption><image_42>The image is a logo of a company called NSO Group. The logo is displayed on a beige-colored wall. The company name is written in black capital letters in a modern sans-serif font. The letters are arranged in a circular shape, with the "S" in the center and the "G" on the left side. The "N" is slightly larger than the other letters and is slightly smaller than the rest of the text. The word "NSO Group" is written below the "Group" in a smaller font size. The overall design of the logo is simple and minimalistic.</caption><transcript><audio_43>it's a standard thing you know i mean we sell it after getting a license from the from the you know an export license from the defense department what can we do if somebody else misuses that software i mean that argument</transcript><transcript><audio_44>is now wearing thin and fewer and fewer people are willing to believe it to the extent where the nso group's future itself is is in jeopardy because the the people</transcript><transcript><audio_45>who uh uh financed this company gave them uh generous loans etc are all having second thoughts whether to continue to fight as financially support and if the new york times report this it speculates that it might just get bought up by somebody else and</transcript> and that time it says that it was a kind of a clickbait you click on something and your phone would get infected with malware after that a host of international organizations including alphabet stroke google microsoft and others also said that this was against their interest so at one level we have big tech in america also very unhappy with all that's happened now as for and on the israel side the nso group spokespersons are flatly denying everything but and this is an important part even as they are denying that you know it's it's a standard thing you know i mean we sell it after getting a license from the from the you know an export license from the defense department what can we do if somebody else misuses that software i mean that argument is now wearing thin and fewer and fewer people are willing to believe it to the extent where the nso group's future itself is is in jeopardy because the the people who uh uh financed this company gave them uh generous loans etc are all having second thoughts whether to continue to fight as financially support and if the new york times report this it speculates that it might just get bought up by somebody else and
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