<caption><image_122>The image is a screenshot from a video interview. It shows a man sitting at a table with a microphone in front of him. He is wearing a grey t-shirt with a logo on it and has a beard and glasses. He appears to be speaking into the microphone and is looking off to the side with a serious expression on his face. The background is black and there is a microphone stand on the right side of the image.</caption> examining the bits as they go by at T1 or T3 speeds there's simply no way to police it what is the effect of having a policy that you can't enforce oh because people obey laws if if certain types of pornography violates Community standards and that's illegal maybe you can't stop it at the border but if you do something in that City you get arrested and you go to jail it's that simple and real laws apply in cyberspace and I think we can do that um it's harder to have Customs I I'll grant you that but we can still have laws governments believe they add value and they they will they believe that they will add value in in this area and they'll find a way to do it well in governments the National Security Agency does in fact attempt to trap all those bits as it goes by and read them there are interests many conflicting interests on this flow of information when you're establishing a transaction where someone's attempting to buy something usually some form of intellectual property on the internet and they're in Sweden and the computer on which the ual property resides is in California or in in Venezuela whose taxes do you pay well everybody well or nobody so you are Deborah I'm sorry I mean I think it'll get sorted out those things usually do I'd like to talk or react to this idea though that the we have to disabuse ourselves of the romance uh of the net I I think the uh technology and the ways that we are using it as um ill illustrated by the internet mean that there are real differences um issues of internationalization and International
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