<transcript><audio_113>here thinking like I had to it will come back to me something interesting we decided we're gonna do a little a little episode on it because we people don't realize it when you write your patent</transcript><transcript><audio_114>and when you then eventually maybe license it or do something like that you know one of the things that you don't really think about at the beginning of hums and my very first patent the patent</transcript><transcript><audio_115>that well not our very first one that's not true Tom had one before that but our big patent that we based our sole story that we tell on stage about our stylus pens for handheld computers with an hour infringement lawsuit with idea on palm</transcript><transcript><audio_116>computing they just expired and it's like we looked at each other and we were like wow what a milestone it's been that many years like it just you know blew your mind that if Wow all that time has passed and and back then I mean this</transcript><transcript><audio_117>there wasn't it wasn't any faster to get a patent so you know you filed and then it was like three years to get before he actually got it and then now at 17 years from that date in 20 years from the original filing date and so we were like wow it's expired but the second thing</transcript> here thinking like I had to it will come back to me something interesting we decided we're gonna do a little a little episode on it because we people don't realize it when you write your patent and when you then eventually maybe license it or do something like that you know one of the things that you don't really think about at the beginning of hums and my very first patent the patent that well not our very first one that's not true Tom had one before that but our big patent that we based our sole story that we tell on stage about our stylus pens for handheld computers with an hour infringement lawsuit with idea on palm computing they just expired and it's like we looked at each other and we were like wow what a milestone it's been that many years like it just you know blew your mind that if Wow all that time has passed and and back then I mean this there wasn't it wasn't any faster to get a patent so you know you filed and then it was like three years to get before he actually got it and then now at 17 years from that date in 20 years from the original filing date and so we were like wow it's expired but the second thing
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