<transcript><audio_7>completely new so for our viewers could you maybe first take us through what are some of the two or three standout points that occurred to you after reading this story the new york times investigation has several aspects which were not known it</transcript><caption><image_8>The image shows an elderly man with a long beard and glasses, sitting in a chair and speaking. He is wearing a blue sweater and appears to be in a room with a gray wall and a framed painting hanging on the wall behind him. The painting is a colorful abstract painting with a blue sky and a cityscape in the background. The man is gesturing with his hands as if he is explaining something or explaining something.</caption><transcript><audio_9>was a very detailed kind of an investigation took them about a year there took two journalists about a year one in tel aviv one in new york firstly i think for an international audience what is</transcript><video><caption><image_10>The image is the logo of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of the United States Department of Justice. The logo is circular in shape and has a blue background with a gold border. In the center of the logo, there is a shield with the words "Department of Justice" written in gold lettering. Below the shield, there are two crossed swords, one on each side, with the American flag on top. The shield is surrounded by a wreath of green leaves and the other on the left side. The words "Federal Bureau of Investigations" are written in white letters above the shield. The overall design is simple and elegant.</caption><caption><image_11>The image shows a hand holding a smartphone with the word "PEGASUS" written on the screen. The background is dark green with binary code written in white. The binary code appears to be in the form of a shield or a shield with a green light shining on it. The hand is holding the phone in a way that suggests the person is using it.</caption><caption><image_12>The image is a screenshot from a video interview. It shows a man with a long grey beard and glasses, wearing a blue shirt, sitting in front of a gray wall with a framed picture hanging on it. He appears to be speaking and gesturing with his hands as he speaks. The man has a serious expression on his face and is looking directly at the camera.</caption></video><transcript><audio_13>very clear is that long before the us government the federal trade commission blacklisted nso the federal bureau of investigation of the united states of america had actually been using pegasus it was testing targeting the</transcript><transcript><audio_14>spokesperson said no you know we keep looking out we keep trying different types of technology it's not that we were using it to spy on citizens in this case american citizens i i think that uh revelation</transcript><transcript><audio_15>has has attracted a lot of international attention that the fbi had that spyware under a different name it was called phantom or something but yeah yes but it was the same company but i mean you can</transcript><caption><image_16>The image shows two people, a man and a woman, holding their smartphones in their hands. The man is on the left side of the image, wearing a blue shirt, and the woman on the right side is wearing a white top. They are both looking at their phones and appear to be engaged in a conversation. The background is blurred, but it seems like they are standing in a room with a white wall. The image is taken from a low angle, so the focus is solely on the hands of the people.</caption><transcript><audio_17>you know call it by any other name but it had it was the same technology which was zero click you could infiltrate any citizen's phone and read everything and and that person would not have the foggiest idea that her or his</transcript><transcript><audio_18>phone was compromised infected as happened in my case also and you everything your entire all your chats all your whatsapp messages everything could be</transcript><caption><image_19>The image is a side-by-side comparison of two men sitting on a couch. On the left side, there is a man with a beard and a white shirt with a black and white pattern. He appears to be in his late twenties or early thirties. He has a serious expression on his face and is looking off to the side with a slight smile.

On the right side of the image, there are two men, one with a long white beard and glasses and the other with a bald head. He is wearing a blue sweater and is sitting in front of a gray background. Both men appear to be engaged in a conversation.</caption><transcript><audio_20>accessed by somebody else very far away and you wouldn't know what was going on i think that's very important i think it's also there are lots of information that has come out about how this the nsos software</transcript> completely new so for our viewers could you maybe first take us through what are some of the two or three standout points that occurred to you after reading this story the new york times investigation has several aspects which were not known it was a very detailed kind of an investigation took them about a year there took two journalists about a year one in tel aviv one in new york firstly i think for an international audience what is very clear is that long before the us government the federal trade commission blacklisted nso the federal bureau of investigation of the united states of america had actually been using pegasus it was testing targeting the spokesperson said no you know we keep looking out we keep trying different types of technology it's not that we were using it to spy on citizens in this case american citizens i i think that uh revelation has has attracted a lot of international attention that the fbi had that spyware under a different name it was called phantom or something but yeah yes but it was the same company but i mean you can you know call it by any other name but it had it was the same technology which was zero click you could infiltrate any citizen's phone and read everything and and that person would not have the foggiest idea that her or his phone was compromised infected as happened in my case also and you everything your entire all your chats all your whatsapp messages everything could be accessed by somebody else very far away and you wouldn't know what was going on i think that's very important i think it's also there are lots of information that has come out about how this the nsos software
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