<transcript><audio_343>so Society should have been destroyed and then well that's not over or something I think that's the point is Humanity worth saving at that point because I mean Humanity sort of didn't no longer exist certainly not the humanity that we all recognize in some</transcript><transcript><audio_344>way so they didn't survive and he he fought truth and deal to live and and for enough of them to survive to say but really the realization should have been and what and what not yeah yeah</transcript><transcript><audio_345>but isn't the point also that they they weren't at risk of Extinction from this uh threat right they whatever Humanity did did to itself itself</transcript><transcript><audio_346>um so he wasn't even really if you think about it fighting to protect Humanity because the torrents didn't know where they were all they had to do was not go near the collapser where they claimed the torrents were so</transcript><transcript><audio_347>yeah I see your point about is Humanity worth saving but he wasn't also really saving so at the end of it it's just despair if uh and and for the character that we've been following uh Humanities surviving and doing well with that</transcript><transcript><audio_348>single Consciousness apparently so I would have had a very bad taste in my mouth before all he did was jumping if like I said I think I'm a reread it was much more open to the fact that okay this isn't quite as depressing</transcript><transcript><audio_349>um I'm actually quite sure that when he sent this to his Publishers publisher sent it back and went you need to put an Ender on here yeah that gives Humanity some hope I it feels like Hollywood Focus test random rather than necessarily won the Fat Tony with the rest of the book I would be interested</transcript> so Society should have been destroyed and then well that's not over or something I think that's the point is Humanity worth saving at that point because I mean Humanity sort of didn't no longer exist certainly not the humanity that we all recognize in some way so they didn't survive and he he fought truth and deal to live and and for enough of them to survive to say but really the realization should have been and what and what not yeah yeah but isn't the point also that they they weren't at risk of Extinction from this uh threat right they whatever Humanity did did to itself itself um so he wasn't even really if you think about it fighting to protect Humanity because the torrents didn't know where they were all they had to do was not go near the collapser where they claimed the torrents were so yeah I see your point about is Humanity worth saving but he wasn't also really saving so at the end of it it's just despair if uh and and for the character that we've been following uh Humanities surviving and doing well with that single Consciousness apparently so I would have had a very bad taste in my mouth before all he did was jumping if like I said I think I'm a reread it was much more open to the fact that okay this isn't quite as depressing um I'm actually quite sure that when he sent this to his Publishers publisher sent it back and went you need to put an Ender on here yeah that gives Humanity some hope I it feels like Hollywood Focus test random rather than necessarily won the Fat Tony with the rest of the book I would be interested
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