<transcript><audio_303>more and once I don't want to hear about it why are you getting so defensive because it's become a threat it's become a threat to my ego I spoke to uh this gentleman named Paul Martin who's my great grand sponsor he was sponsored by Dr Bob spoke to him a few</transcript><transcript><audio_304>years ago I had a handful of phone calls with him he was out of Chicago and I asked him this question about going through the steps over and over again and he said firsthand what happened because he was one of the guys one of the first the the spearheads of going through the work over and over again he</transcript><transcript><audio_305>says but the book doesn't tell us those stories in the back of those early members what happened to a lot of us he said after about 5 years of sobriety we start to visit page 52 a little too often we were looking for some sedativ some some medication because we were</transcript><transcript><audio_306>nervous we're full of an anxiety we had some fear going on and we were doing all of this but there was something going we couldn't locate some R to psychiat just and some got drunk and so on and uh truly by the grace of God he had one of</transcript><transcript><audio_307>his uh uh guys coming over to hear a fifth step offer from and he was praying to get ready for this fifth step and what he said was he had this intuitive thought that he couldn't deny you know when God moves you you get moved when God speaks you know it and he stopped</transcript> more and once I don't want to hear about it why are you getting so defensive because it's become a threat it's become a threat to my ego I spoke to uh this gentleman named Paul Martin who's my great grand sponsor he was sponsored by Dr Bob spoke to him a few years ago I had a handful of phone calls with him he was out of Chicago and I asked him this question about going through the steps over and over again and he said firsthand what happened because he was one of the guys one of the first the the spearheads of going through the work over and over again he says but the book doesn't tell us those stories in the back of those early members what happened to a lot of us he said after about 5 years of sobriety we start to visit page 52 a little too often we were looking for some sedativ some some medication because we were nervous we're full of an anxiety we had some fear going on and we were doing all of this but there was something going we couldn't locate some R to psychiat just and some got drunk and so on and uh truly by the grace of God he had one of his uh uh guys coming over to hear a fifth step offer from and he was praying to get ready for this fifth step and what he said was he had this intuitive thought that he couldn't deny you know when God moves you you get moved when God speaks you know it and he stopped
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