<transcript><audio_44> y yo dije que aquel era el estándar perfecto de la raza española y yo me atreví a llevarlo al</transcript><caption><image_45>The image shows an elderly man standing in front of a row of white bird cages. He is wearing a white t-shirt and glasses and appears to be in his late 60s or early 70s. He has a bald head and is looking directly at the camera with a serious expression on his face. The cages are arranged in rows and are filled with blue plastic containers. The background is a white wall with a window on the left side.</caption><transcript><audio_46> La puntuación fue bastante elevada para lo que se solían dar en aquel momento. Y hubo un debate en las revistas especializadas, tanto de aquí como fuera de España, de la peculiaridad de aquel pájaro porque</transcript><transcript><audio_47> ...híbridas que efectivamente venían de Canario Salvaje... ...de Tenerife, un pájaro muy pequeño que... ...que puse, que pude conseguir... ...y de allí, al cabo de las 3, 4 años...</transcript><transcript><audio_48> y lo que decía la raza española a partir de ahí, aquel debate fue muy positivo porque aquello entramos en la dinámica de hacer la raza que tenemos ahora entonces, a partir de allí</transcript><transcript><audio_49> ¿Qué hizo el estando? El estando se ha cambiado varias veces, porque él no lo hace. De ahí se inició el hacer un estando nuevo, como ya ahí entró gente muy importante que...</transcript><caption><image_50>The image shows an elderly man wearing a white t-shirt and glasses, standing in front of a row of white bird cages. He is gesturing with his hands as if he is explaining something. The cages are arranged in a neat and orderly manner, and there are blue labels on the cages. The background appears to be a room with a concrete floor and a white wall.</caption> here in local competitions and I said that that was the perfect standard of the Spanish breed and I dared to take it to the don't remember  right now the situation with the score quite high for what they used to give At that time and there was a debate in specialized magazines both here and outside of Spain about the peculiarity that the bird because it had hybrid connotations that actually came from canaries  wild birds of Tenerife a very small bird that I said I could get and from there after three four three four years I got a really small bird and what the Spanish breed said from then on that debate was very positive because that was when we entered the  dynamic of making the breed that we have now so from there I was a question that was asked, they are giving it change several times because I don't know, that's where the making of a new standard began, and I 'm going there, very important people came in. 'm going there, very important people came in.
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