<caption><image_36>The image is a close-up of a man sitting in a dimly lit room. He is wearing a light blue button-down shirt and has a beard and mustache. He appears to be in his late twenties or early thirties and is looking off to the side with a slight smile on his face. The background is blurred, but it seems to be a room with a wooden wall and a window. The lighting is dim and the overall mood of the image is relaxed and casual.</caption> this the environment the tools are let's say everything so that yes  other people can follow each other, no, so I think there is also a change in that paradigm a little and that it is a survival thing, it is not difficult, sometimes there are courses. There are a lot of things, but I think that also the experience in that, having the opportunity to live it well. make decisions make mistakes correct them this is saying everything  Those types of things also give you these tools that I use all my life, it seems to me that not one has the vision from the outside from the prejudice of systems engineering perhaps or electrical perhaps that is very much related to as a solitary task not with with  with the devices, not a Paula interacting with a device, how much of that is prejudice and how much of it is actually something else. Look, I believe that teamwork actually today in any of these disciplines is fundamental because I say they are complex things, they are often  They are large complex systems, even talking about software development, for example. Systems engineering, as you mentioned,
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