<caption><image_84>The image is a screenshot from a video interview. It shows a man with grey hair and glasses, wearing a brown jacket, standing in front of a blue background with the words "Palavar Crucidas" written in white. He is holding his hands together and appears to be deep in thought, with his eyes closed and his mouth slightly open. The man is looking off to the side with a serious expression on his face.</caption><transcript><audio_85> eles são recentes. Sim, não são. E eles são produtos de desleixo dos educadores.</transcript><transcript><audio_86> A política pública brasileira não se envolveu com uma estratégia adequada, porque também não era, digamos, uma demanda econômica,</transcript><transcript><audio_87> Qual o problema aí? É que quando você se defronta com um passivo como nós temos na área da educação e quer resolvê-lo... Desconjurei desse passivo. Esse passivo é exatamente o descuido, o susceto,</transcript><transcript><audio_88> inúmeros governos que não deram atenção no investimento necessário, na solução dos problemas necessários na área da educação. Isso gerou um passivo. Por que não deu atenção? Porque não tinha uma motivação</transcript><transcript><audio_89> que agora tem. Quando aparece a motivação econômica forte agora, produtividade, torna-se a questão da educação como se tivesse tudo corrido muito bem no país ao longo dos anos.</transcript> of thinking that the  educational problems they are recent and they are products of the negligence of educators when in Brazilian public policy it was not involved with an adequate strategy, it is not because it was not either let's say an economic demand and with that it created a liability What is the problem  This is when you are faced with a liability like we have in the area of ​​Education and you want to resolve the passive pass exactly the successive historical carelessness of a number of governments that did not pay attention to the necessary investment in solving the necessary problems in the area of ​​Education and a liability emerged  Why didn't it come to attention because it wasn't a motivation, there was a strong economic motivation for that which now exists when the strong economic motivation now appears, productivity Take this issue of education What do you mean, everything has been going very well in the country over
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