<transcript><audio_516>especially like having this conversation like so i don't know what awakening is</transcript><transcript><audio_517>different people mean a lot of different things by it there are certain things that i've learned to watch for and like of course i would never make a claim about your experience but like you seem very alive and very clear and very calm and</transcript><transcript><audio_518>centered and um also like in integrity with your values and like have a clear vision for how you want to show up in the world and and so for me like at this point in my life um i'm really sensitive to that with other people like oh you know because there are people that that</transcript><transcript><audio_519>aren't those things where they're like suffering you look at their faces and they're like tight and like they're really hurting and then they hurt other people around them and like they aren't really going somewhere in their lives and they're kind of have all kinds of emotions that are just getting in the</transcript><transcript><audio_520>way of them and each other and like um that that i mean i have compassion for those people it's like that's not that's that's like metaphorically a hell realm to be in like you can go way down that spectrum of just insanity basically</transcript> especially like having this conversation like so i don't know what awakening is different people mean a lot of different things by it there are certain things that i've learned to watch for and like of course i would never make a claim about your experience but like you seem very alive and very clear and very calm and centered and um also like in integrity with your values and like have a clear vision for how you want to show up in the world and and so for me like at this point in my life um i'm really sensitive to that with other people like oh you know because there are people that that aren't those things where they're like suffering you look at their faces and they're like tight and like they're really hurting and then they hurt other people around them and like they aren't really going somewhere in their lives and they're kind of have all kinds of emotions that are just getting in the way of them and each other and like um that that i mean i have compassion for those people it's like that's not that's that's like metaphorically a hell realm to be in like you can go way down that spectrum of just insanity basically
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