<transcript><audio_456>like you know there are so many different ways to look at practice but one way to look at it is we just have the same weird hobby like we're just doing something that's like really weird our idea of fun is to like</transcript><transcript><audio_457>get on a plane and then fly somewhere and then sit in a house with strangers for three weeks in total silence you know and then get back on a plane and leave and like that's you know i didn't even realize that was weird until like where am i going when do i when do i</transcript><transcript><audio_458>fire casino retreat and i was telling one of my grad school friends about it and she was like wait you haven't even met most of them before and i was like all right this is super weird this is a weird thing to do um and just being able to have</transcript><transcript><audio_459>a group of people around you who are just into the same weird thing you are um never mind like all the other levels of like psychological well-being and spiritual fulfillment that that people get out of out of this but just to be</transcript><transcript><audio_460>able to have people who have your same weird hobby and get to talk with them like that's incredibly valuable yeah and then i happen to think that this is like the coolest weird hobby to have uh so being able to be part of this community while also being able to</transcript><transcript><audio_461>steward it is just like it's it's it's it's incredible it's an incredible privilege beautiful beautiful well we've covered a ton of territory uh you know sort of more from an interview side is there anything that you'd like to talk about more in conversation</transcript><transcript><audio_462>yeah i i mean yeah it was actually really hard not to be allowed to like i'm not used to talking for that long um yeah i mean i'm curious just first of all like here we are on this podcast and</transcript> like you know there are so many different ways to look at practice but one way to look at it is we just have the same weird hobby like we're just doing something that's like really weird our idea of fun is to like get on a plane and then fly somewhere and then sit in a house with strangers for three weeks in total silence you know and then get back on a plane and leave and like that's you know i didn't even realize that was weird until like where am i going when do i when do i fire casino retreat and i was telling one of my grad school friends about it and she was like wait you haven't even met most of them before and i was like all right this is super weird this is a weird thing to do um and just being able to have a group of people around you who are just into the same weird thing you are um never mind like all the other levels of like psychological well-being and spiritual fulfillment that that people get out of out of this but just to be able to have people who have your same weird hobby and get to talk with them like that's incredibly valuable yeah and then i happen to think that this is like the coolest weird hobby to have uh so being able to be part of this community while also being able to steward it is just like it's it's it's it's incredible it's an incredible privilege beautiful beautiful well we've covered a ton of territory uh you know sort of more from an interview side is there anything that you'd like to talk about more in conversation yeah i i mean yeah it was actually really hard not to be allowed to like i'm not used to talking for that long um yeah i mean i'm curious just first of all like here we are on this podcast and
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