<transcript><audio_19>you know the most famous example would be all the school girls that were kidnapped you know bring back our girls that campaign and what the people who engage in this practice or this kind of economy</transcript><transcript><audio_20>basically have discovered is that Christians are more likely to one get attention internationally when they're targeted and so this brings them legitimacy as a group that engages in this kind of thing</transcript><transcript><audio_21>and two they're more likely to actually shell out the money because if you go after a Catholic priest it's more likely that the Catholic Church will actually pay up essentially</transcript><transcript><audio_22>and so it's not necessarily A always about Christian versus Muslims from an ideological angle it's more kind of like taking advantage of International Christian institutional</transcript><transcript><audio_23>support um but the problem is is that the result is that it is becoming a Christian Muslim issue I mean like I said there are parts that are 100</transcript><transcript><audio_24>jihadist incentivized and done and executed right 100 there's some that are 100 just straight up that but then as this becomes such a consistent and terrible pattern throughout Nigeria even the regions that</transcript><transcript><audio_25>are supposed to be really really safe like in the South the broader Nation the broader communities are seeing this as a</transcript><transcript><audio_26>Orman what are your reactions this is why you negotiate don't negotiate with terrorists right um and you're telling me the Catholic church and other religious institutions to have a Christian institutions haven't recognize that do you think that they</transcript> you know the most famous example would be all the school girls that were kidnapped you know bring back our girls that campaign and what the people who engage in this practice or this kind of economy basically have discovered is that Christians are more likely to one get attention internationally when they're targeted and so this brings them legitimacy as a group that engages in this kind of thing and two they're more likely to actually shell out the money because if you go after a Catholic priest it's more likely that the Catholic Church will actually pay up essentially and so it's not necessarily A always about Christian versus Muslims from an ideological angle it's more kind of like taking advantage of International Christian institutional support um but the problem is is that the result is that it is becoming a Christian Muslim issue I mean like I said there are parts that are 100 jihadist incentivized and done and executed right 100 there's some that are 100 just straight up that but then as this becomes such a consistent and terrible pattern throughout Nigeria even the regions that are supposed to be really really safe like in the South the broader Nation the broader communities are seeing this as a Orman what are your reactions this is why you negotiate don't negotiate with terrorists right um and you're telling me the Catholic church and other religious institutions to have a Christian institutions haven't recognize that do you think that they
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