<caption><image_11>The image is a screenshot of a video call with a man sitting at a wooden table in front of a Christmas tree. The man is wearing a blue shirt and appears to be in his late 40s or early 50s. He is smiling and looking at the camera. On the table, there are various items such as a laptop, a coffee cup, and a map. The Christmas tree is decorated with colorful ornaments and lights. The background is a living room with a white wall and a bookshelf. The image also has a banner at the top that reads "그리스타에세요" which translates to "Christmas" in English. At the bottom of the image, there is a group of people's faces with different expressions, suggesting that the video call is being recorded.</caption><caption><image_12>The image shows a man standing in front of a whiteboard with a drawing on it. He is wearing a blue cardigan and glasses and appears to be speaking into a microphone. On the right side of the image, there is a screenshot of a chat screen with various options and settings. The background is white and there are string lights hanging from the ceiling. At the bottom of the screen, there are several cartoon faces of people of different ages and ethnicities.</caption> 자꾸 경험을 통해서 우리가 아는 거죠. '결'을 모르시면 자기만의 법계에 살게 됩니다, 자기만의. 그럼 나도 살고 남도 살아야 할 거 아니에요. 내 마음의 변화와 내 마음의 변화에 따라 수를 놓고, 참나한테 맡기면서 계속 관을 해야 해요. 객관적으로도 바뀌어야지 외부적으로도 바뀌는 거죠. 바로바로 또 반응이 일어나는 겁니다. 객관적으로 어떻게 굴러가고 있는지. 바깥 상황에 계시된 하늘의 '결', 하늘의 계시. 하늘의 뜻 읽으려고 하는 거예요. '꿈'도 하늘의 뜻 읽으려고 활용하는 거고요.
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