<transcript><audio_161>a coach and a mentor makes a big difference in whether you're going to be successful that's what you really said yeah I can look back I don't think I've told you this I can look back to the two times I got slapped around one was 08 and one was like 94 is 1994 is and I look back to those two times I didn't</transcript><transcript><audio_162>have a mentor I didn't have any board of directors or a mentor or a person that I could go to and go hey I'm having this challenge what do I do now if I did I probably would have came out of that differently and every other time I've had one you you're so absolutely right</transcript><transcript><audio_163>now I I went through it in 1986 20 years before you did or 30 years before you did but it was a a real challenge that was up to $200 million worth of property in three states and now the recession hit and the market collapsed those buildings actually lost 60 to 70 they</transcript><transcript><audio_164>were all apartment buildings they they lost 60 to 70% of their value and I had no one around me that ever knew how to handle adversity so how you going to learn adversity well you learn it on the firing line but I ended up in a bankruptcy and lost it all so I completely understand now I'm in the the</transcript> a coach and a mentor makes a big difference in whether you're going to be successful that's what you really said yeah I can look back I don't think I've told you this I can look back to the two times I got slapped around one was 08 and one was like 94 is 1994 is and I look back to those two times I didn't have a mentor I didn't have any board of directors or a mentor or a person that I could go to and go hey I'm having this challenge what do I do now if I did I probably would have came out of that differently and every other time I've had one you you're so absolutely right now I I went through it in 1986 20 years before you did or 30 years before you did but it was a a real challenge that was up to $200 million worth of property in three states and now the recession hit and the market collapsed those buildings actually lost 60 to 70 they were all apartment buildings they they lost 60 to 70% of their value and I had no one around me that ever knew how to handle adversity so how you going to learn adversity well you learn it on the firing line but I ended up in a bankruptcy and lost it all so I completely understand now I'm in the the
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