<transcript><audio_176>about five pages of details about the seesaw theory specific um but where where i'm going with the citizenship is trying to pick up this idea of insurgent citizenship that james holston</transcript><transcript><audio_177>wrote about with brasilia and in brazil and to try to think where that idea works or how it could be expanded to work further and the the critique that i i had of the</transcript><transcript><audio_178>way he was using it with his uh communities was that still the basic fulcrum seemed to be house ownership and that's also true in the south korean</transcript><transcript><audio_179>case of where the the the cleavages the factions broke out in the housing rights movement was that uh you know originally a lot of the land in seoul was public land from the dynasty</transcript><transcript><audio_180>days and so people when urbanization uh took off again in the 60s and 1970s for you know probably been happening for hundreds of years in different ways but that phase of it when that occurred people just crowded to the city and built wherever they could because that's</transcript><transcript><audio_181>where the factory jobs were um so uh even then the house owners ended up with a better deal out of the urban renewals and that than the tenants and that advance of policymakers to figure out how to</transcript> about five pages of details about the seesaw theory specific um but where where i'm going with the citizenship is trying to pick up this idea of insurgent citizenship that james holston wrote about with brasilia and in brazil and to try to think where that idea works or how it could be expanded to work further and the the critique that i i had of the way he was using it with his uh communities was that still the basic fulcrum seemed to be house ownership and that's also true in the south korean case of where the the the cleavages the factions broke out in the housing rights movement was that uh you know originally a lot of the land in seoul was public land from the dynasty days and so people when urbanization uh took off again in the 60s and 1970s for you know probably been happening for hundreds of years in different ways but that phase of it when that occurred people just crowded to the city and built wherever they could because that's where the factory jobs were um so uh even then the house owners ended up with a better deal out of the urban renewals and that than the tenants and that advance of policymakers to figure out how to
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