<transcript><audio_195>organization so they can start to to grow this organization without adding more layers or more managers um this first step was to change the</transcript><transcript><audio_196>view of the manager role and then the next step was to work with teams because the middle management have to start to change the way of thinking before we can go in in the teams to start working with</transcript><transcript><audio_197>them otherwise it will will not be a good way to approach it ourselves we cannot we cannot manage the change for them to this transition they have to do it themselves but we can</transcript><transcript><audio_198>act what we call Companions and support in this so we supporting them people we are not managing it so we are supporting so this is a way to start we can start with e easy things like decision making so we can have to we can use and have a</transcript><transcript><audio_199>methodology to make decisions but and then will yeah we will come to some kind of improvement but before we have taken more steps into this while you while you're thinking together who we going to</transcript><transcript><audio_200>be involved Etc we will not have a real full potential of of um of the case to work so that's was old case in a book a new case that we are like how can we start to work with an organization to to</transcript><transcript><audio_201>have this kind of dilemma how to to uh how to grow without add more levels in hearing so that was two cases from the field and uh I don't know Ola shall we</transcript> organization so they can start to to grow this organization without adding more layers or more managers um this first step was to change the view of the manager role and then the next step was to work with teams because the middle management have to start to change the way of thinking before we can go in in the teams to start working with them otherwise it will will not be a good way to approach it ourselves we cannot we cannot manage the change for them to this transition they have to do it themselves but we can act what we call Companions and support in this so we supporting them people we are not managing it so we are supporting so this is a way to start we can start with e easy things like decision making so we can have to we can use and have a methodology to make decisions but and then will yeah we will come to some kind of improvement but before we have taken more steps into this while you while you're thinking together who we going to be involved Etc we will not have a real full potential of of um of the case to work so that's was old case in a book a new case that we are like how can we start to work with an organization to to have this kind of dilemma how to to uh how to grow without add more levels in hearing so that was two cases from the field and uh I don't know Ola shall we
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