 And there's 15 of us that are... There's a bunch of us doing it. Pat's another one of us that's moved. A lot of us are having to move. Something that I think is important to note about Karen Hurd is your service in the United States Army. Can you talk a little bit about that service? I remember a conversation we had. You served in military intelligence, which I always think is really intriguing. And, I mean, in particular...