 But if you're only taking 30 and the required distribution is 35, you're going to have to increase that distribution by $5,000 to meet your minimums. Okay. Here's an ancillary question for you now. Somebody's turning 73 July 1st of this year. Yes. Okay. And they had a rollover or they converted the remainder of their IRA prior to their birthday into that year. So they would have no RMD the next year, right? Right.