 A lot of people think that they've got to have a side hustle just to pay off debt or just pay the bills. In this case, when someone is that age, to the extent that you can do some extra work and leverage your skill and experience to pour more money on top of the little fire, the bigger that fire. And we had yellow pads full of dreams, yellow pads full of goals, yellow pads full of debts and problems, and yellow pads full of a budget.