 They loved him, and they didn't think he was going to get to 33, so they took him at 23 because they loved him. And that's what I heard. I also heard that when Denver traded with the Phoenix Suns to move up to take Dalton Holmes, the second of Dayton, that was a guy the Bucs really wanted, and they almost had to settle on A.J. Johnson just because they were afraid at 33 he wasn't going to be there. Here's the interesting thing, Dan, and I want to share this with everybody here. So...