 Your son, your daughter, their arms are folded, and they're just staring at you. And you had just said, how was your day? Uh, okay. In a way, it's normal, but only to a degree. There are other things going on in there. Roy Pettifiss is a friend of mine and a family counselor. We were having a conversation about this. Roy said apathy is rooted really in a letdown, a disappointment, unmet expectations.