 where I might be trying to provide some insight to her on something and she doesn't see it. But then when she hears it from somebody else, it hits a little bit closer to home and vice versa. I mean, the same thing has happened where she's trying to convince me of something. And I don't know if it's a man's brains versus woman's brains thing and just the language we use. But I think the overall lesson here is that a lot of times having a second opinion,