 find her there, right? It's just, it was very shocking for them because you have to imagine, like, Ashley, this is her first time speaking with a medium, and that's already intimidating, especially for somebody who's really skeptical and, like, fearful, honestly, about the entire process, you know? Sorry, Carolyn, to interrupt, but I just want to, before we hit the break at the bottom of the hour, can you describe