 And we can send it back. I get rewards. It's like, yeah, I mean, you know, we'll get back $2,000 or $3,000 or $4,000 a year in cash back rewards on business credit cards. But if you've got a problem with the debt, then you've got no business using it and don't justify it by saying, hey, I'm going to get some travel rewards or something like that. Nope, you've got a problem. Pay it off. Get it done. Yeah, you just got a $1,000 vacation and it only cost you $8,000 in interest. And people will fool themselves like that. Yeah.