 When the Russians are complaining about American moves here and there, if you don't take that seriously and say, well, they just want an enemy, then that's not taking seriously the fact that they might have legitimate, from their point of view, legitimate national interests, legitimate objections to what the West was doing. And there's an analogy here today with people who, I think, incorrectly, totally dismissed Putin's argument that the expansion of NATO eastward was...