 Yeah, so I came a very different pathway from Pat. I didn't have any direct family connection to the issue of addiction. But in my early 30s, I became a foster mom. And through that experience, I met the mother of one of our foster sons. She had struggled with addiction for about 20 years by the time I met her. She started using in her teens. And she was not able to beat that addiction during her pregnancy. And when her son was born,