 really seeing it but it's it's wet and it's shiny so kind of hard to tell i can tell you that we really haven't been seeing any slowing through the area and that's sort of the main thing so we're still cruising right along through there on eastbound 512 we become busy this morning already between the mall and almost all the way to 167 westbound highway 410 is filled in most the way between valley avenue and 167 and then on northbound 167