 A lot of it is about recreation and it's about sort of personal challenges. And I'm wondering how you can characterize the evolution of why someone would do this. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a great point. And that's only something I sort of trace through going over time because, you know, the whole idea that going sailing by yourself across an ocean, that that isn't completely just a bananas idiotic kind of thing, that this idea that over time people start to respect that is a sort of interesting transition. And you do see sort of bliss.