 You know, we can talk about how things look from 2021, 2022. I think it's very easy to exaggerate the Clintonite influence over the party in the 1990s. They held the leadership and leaders are going to have enormous sway over setting the agenda and defining the image of the party. But I'm very skeptical of claims that the third wave, new Democrat movement, were able to affect lasting change over the long term.