 That's an oxymoron, active ETFs. But at some point, it's just all about price. I don't care what the wrapper is. It's all about price, whether you call it a mutual fund or an ETF. I know there's some tax differentiation. Well, that's crucial, though. I mean, that's part of the attraction over mutual funds of active ETFs. But I think, yes, you're right. It's about price. And once active managers have found the right price point for each strategy, it'll be tougher for passive ETFs to compete with that.