 in the coming years. And that would be the case even if the Democrats retain the White House, I think, but not as intense and quick and rapid as Trump and Vance would probably do. And Vance, like I said, on issues like tariffs, I think is probably even more hard line than Trump is because Trump kind of wavers at times and talks about China and Taiwan differently at times, whereas Vance has been kind of singularly focused on attacking China and saying they're the biggest threat in the world and we have to do whatever we can to