 to end their families, young pregnant women to do what is best for the health and well-being of the woman. He was not an anti-abortion advocate. Texas ministers 30 years ago were not anti-abortion advocates, you know, uniformly with nearly the zeal that we see. And she was saying, I lived through that. I remember that. And now she is a reverend working for reproductive justice. And I find stories like that so powerful because I don't have that memory that she does. But