 met her a couple times so i got to speak at the q and a at the fundraiser and so i got to say madam president do you mind if i call you madam president and she laughed that great kamala laugh and then i said you know some people are saying you're you know the female obama you're the white hillary but i said you know out here we like to say you're the first kamala like how do you feel about those labels and i remember she gave me i'll remember exactly what she said but just a great big