 Phyllis Wheatley, the first published Black poet, she says, if Phyllis Wheatley writes something about, like, the sky is blue, people are going to ask, what does a blue sky mean to a Black slave? And that there's always that relationship between the body and the earth and that that can be separated. Often, we are separated from nature physically through design, through the ways cities are designed, that actually does become inaccessible to us. So that narrative is true.