 And the thing about this matchup, of course, George Kirby has been great for a long time. He's been on a good roll. And the Mariners, at times, have gotten to Framber, and they've seen him a lot. So there's nothing unfamiliar about Framber. It is pretty amazing. The Mariners have been able to have a pretty well-orchestrated game plan. There's been a lot of opposite field hits against Framber, right? I mean, it's get the ball up and hit it the other way.