 what comes to mind. But now like assuming a lot more strategic responsibility and Beth Cohen joins us now from New York via Zoom. Beth, great to speak with you. As I bring up that anecdote, again, no transition happening at J&J yet, but both very eager to comment on the fact that they see the CFO role as incredibly valuable. Talk a bit about that if you would, just the way that our notion of or that role has changed here in recent years.