 So the families were real tight when they played for the Phillies. So like I said, I worked with Pete. Brett knows Pete real well, and I thought it was one of the best podcasts and interviews I've ever heard Pete do over the years. And it's all about his career and the Big Red Machine and the Phillies and everything else. So if you're a big Pete Rose fan, you can find that here on the Odyssey app. You should take a listen. I'm very proud of him. We did a really good job sitting down and doing the definitive interview with Pete.