 public square for quite a while by then, you know, he was, he was really, really old at that point, but it's kind of mind blowing, you know, I want to make sure we can hear you. Can you get to a little better spot? Oh yeah, sure. Thank you. Much, much better. Thank you. Um, yeah, you know, it was, it was kind of mind blowing because I'm not really that old of a guy. I'm, I'm in my mid forties and, um,