 Will Rudder filling in on the, I don't know, he turns all the knobs over there. And he is the world's greatest Smashing Pumpkins fan. Obsessive. Can't stop listening to them. He thinks Billy Corgan is the greatest singer that's ever lived. And so he is in counseling. He's working through it. But that's his thing. Hey, listen, if you're like me, you're like George, you're like our families.