 because we see those alternatives emerging in other countries. There's definitely a powerful tug of war there, and obviously we know which side we're on. Ben, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with us and give us so much important context and backstory in a digestible and timely fashion. Again, you can find all of Ben's writing at his independent news site, Geopolitical Economy Report. Ben, thanks again so much. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me, Eleanor. And keep up the great work.