 of Saul Alinsky's work. And one of the things that Frank Bardacchi, many of us have critiqued. So this one aspect of his work, I think a bunch of us critique, which is what we call the fake leader, grassroots leader, organizer dynamic. So I think the Alinsky model, which says the organizer doesn't make any decisions, grassroots leaders make them all, becomes a sort of one way that a bunch of