 It's a little bit like what happens in police departments. I know it's a weird analogy. People get grumpy at a police department and say, oh, so let's ouch the chief. So they have lots of turnover at the chief, not recognizing that almost every police chief has gone through de-escalation training, has gone through mental health training, is relatively aware of sort of DEI principles, is like trying to do a good job. The vast majority of urban chiefs in this country, that usually when police departments have a challenge, it's a more complex challenge that has a little more to do with like shift sergeants, et cetera. And that's a harder thing to deal with. Similarly, in our political party,