 Did you guys hit it off immediately, like you were coming up with ideas and he was coming up with ideas, or he said, I want to try this, and you were just like, let's go and let's try and let's experiment? Exactly that, because I was really fortunate that I had a terrific musical education. I studied classical music from the age of four, and all the way through high school I went to the South African College of Music. It was going to be a concert, to be honest.