 something that will make headlines and that will be outside the box. But because he recognizes the talent of Lindsey Harding, and it doesn't matter whether or not she's male or female, what matters is that she is someone who can help develop young players. And he's the one who's supposed to be doing this developing, right? He's supposed to be a guy who can get the best out of his players. That's what we just heard from Rob Palenka to start the segment today.