 compare their experience and learn from each other, and I think hopefully come up with the best strategies for dealing with these problems. But I was really thinking of another force like New England, for example, that is sinking because formerly the weight of the glaciers that were there only 10,000 or 12,000 years ago had pushed that land up, but now that the glaciers are gone, the land is slowly sinking. It might make sea level rise in New England worse.