 If that's something they're interested in learning more about, what's the easiest way for them to do that? There's several ways. The show notes for this as a podcast as well as the KKNW 1150 show page for us has a whole list of links on there. Our Patreon site is one place they can learn more about it. They can reach out to us directly via email at stayingpowershow at gmail.com.