 Catherine Woodowitz is the author of this book. She's an article. She's a freelance journalist living in Austin, writes and talks about tech, religion, and collective life, and is the founder of something I think is very important, the Social Healing Project. Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. Thank you, Ernie. You're welcome. This, everyone, is a Tuesday edition of the Attitude Realist News. Tomorrow, everyone, chat. You better think, think, think about what you're trying to do to me. Think, think, think, let your mind go, let yourself be free.