 talked to me privately about that. I don't know, you know, why he was so secretive about it, but I guess that was the way it had to be during those days. But he, well, you know, the fact that he would tell me, do right, sloop, fag, and do what I tell you, and good things will happen. And then he would brag to me about the organization he thought would probably save Dixie one of these years. And I'd say, from what? And he'd tell me. He said he would say from niggers.