 specific botanical gardens sometimes we take you to private gardens sometimes we take you to a specific event or show right that has to do with gardening landscaping um we don't just focus on that the whole time i mean you know we'll go to breweries we'll go wine tasting there's other activities we talked about going to the horse that horse the lip is in the stallion's place like put it this way it's always a good time with us yeah always anybody that's gonna learn a lot