 But in particular, what I think is really significant, significant in terms of today, is that Kenning picked up on Chekhov's view that the real problem in modern society, and this is, of course, during the days when there was ideological conflict between communism and capitalism, but it pertains to today. But the real problem in modern society is not whether the machines are owned by, the factories are owned by the capitalists or owned by communists,