 I mean, that's where most of your growth is going to happen. I would say there might be some growth if you could anticipate because then you're prepping for something, right? So you're putting in a lot of time and energy and effort to prepare for this thing. But I think a lot of times the major growth can happen when it's the unexpected and the unanticipated. And then you really have to show up and you have to count on yourself and it's you. That's what I was actually going to ask both of you with the people that you work with.