 I've told you this before. When researching confronting the presidents, and we've run down all 45, how they helped or hurt the nation, I have never seen in any of them a more apathetic president than Joe Biden. It might have something to do with his mental decline, but he simply does not care. So he'll sit there and tell Lester Holt, oh, I don't engage in that kind of rhetoric, when it's just a lie. But it's a provable lie.