 like the back of their hand. Um, they've seen fire go through it multiple times at different intensities at different times of the year. All of a sudden, like it's very clear that the plan that they have in their head is like exactly what's going to happen. And I don't, yeah. So, you know, those fires are, are just different in a lot of ways. And so both are quote unquote controlled in the sense that, um,