 The unflappable Steve Herman was flapped in that gig. And especially since the protocols, as you describe in the book, you had protocols, but they seem to be consistently violated by none other than the president of the United States himself and his staff at those regular briefings. And the vice president, too, who seemed to be pressured or intimidated into not wearing a mask at the Mayo Clinic. And I was also there. And that caused some trouble as well.