 Trying to appeal to swing voters is very different from trying to appeal to party base voters that you would need to do in a primary. And running against Donald Trump is very different than running against, say, other Democratic candidates. So she would start off with and so would any Democrat, including Biden, very much start out with the whole anti-Trump coalition behind them either way. So those concerns about Harris, I think, are being overrated and in part might be because a lot of Democrats are in kind of a defensive crouch.