 who will receive pleasure from witnessing that kind of surrender and that kind of submission. I think I may have mentioned this on the last interview, but I'm not sure, but a brother named Tioka Sango's horse, who was one of the mentors, a Lakota elder who was one of the mentors for the spiritual ecology fellowship that I was a part of. He would reframe the powers that be as the powers who think they are, which I really love. And imagining like,