 But effectively, the war needs to end first before any of that. Ukraine needs to achieve that victory, that it has to define what is a victory. Nobody else but Ukraine has to define what is a victory on the battlefield. And we have to be there to support them to achieve that. Latvia Minister of Foreign Affairs, Baiba Bracha, speaking on Bloomberg's Balance of Power. You can listen back to this conversation on the Balance of Power podcast. Subscribe and download.