 came from this university background where he was trying to do good in space. They've created all these imaging satellites that track rainforests and the movement of refugees and things like that. And then we've got Peter Beck, who comes from New Zealand. It's probably one of the most incredible stories you'll ever hear. He has no college education. He's self-taught in aerospace, which does not happen. Just so people know, you're supposed to have a PhD at the least to do this. And these days, Rocket Lab is the...