 Welcome back to Staying Power. It's our one-hour episode premiere here on 1150 KKNW in Seattle. And if you're listening live to that radio feed, so glad that you are. And if you're listening on podcast, also glad you are. With us in studio today, I call them the Erics. Eric Crema and Eric Reiter. Sounds like a bad sitcom. Of Hubbard and Crema. They live in a small apartment somewhere.