 And she's talking about older people in their 80s, they go down to doctors and doctors just diss them. Oh, this is just normal stuff. You don't need to worry about the whole thing. Some people refuse to do tests. You don't need to get the scope done. Why not? You're 80 years of age. You don't need to go and get the scope done. And when you look at the research and the science behind the whole thing, it is that, no, a lot of this stuff is not normal. Your body can cope and do things, but they get written off. And the sure one, there's one sure answer that you don't have to deal with any of this stuff.