 It's Sandra. And the next debate better be at 8 in the morning so that you give a fair chance of seeing what somebody's like when they're early in their day. I think you're on to something really important about the candidate schedules. And by the way, Biden's different schedule as president compared to Trump's schedule as president because Biden spends his day doing the job. But it's not only what he's doing that day. Presidents typically have a bad first debate.