 podcast here at Bloomberg. Tim Stenevik is out today. So coming up, we're going to talk a little bit more about the outage. We're also going to get into the retail world. We're going to also talk about, you and I have both talked to a lot of CFOs. Turns out more of them are getting the CEO job. So fascinating. I was doing an interview with the CEO and the CFO of Johnson & Johnson recently. And this is something that came up, that CEO not going anywhere anytime soon, but just talking more broadly about