 but ti said sales would be roughly four to five billion dollars that's an enormous range analysts had estimated 4.14 billion if you come in at five that's a slam dunk beat if you come in at four well investors would be very disappointed uh sales in the quarter just reported were in line but they were down 16 from a year ago and it was the seventh consecutive contraction so you can see there are so many moving parts how do you trade it while the stock was down two-thirds of a percent in the trading