 to live a life that they want to be fully present for. And that was a big part of Pat's journey as well, is how do we change this? And she writes about this in Surviving Alex, her book. How do we move towards this in a way that it doesn't ask the rest of society to pay the price? We don't want to say, just let people do whatever they want to do. That's not what we want. We want to say, how can we help them