 And undo the reputational aspects of this verdict. Right. That way. Right. Well, Terry, thank you so much. That's all I have time for today. You've been listening to Clearing the Fog, speaking truth to expose the forces of greed. I'm Margaret Flowers. You are listening to KODXLP 96.9 Seattle and streaming online at kodxseattle.org. It is 8 p.m. up next, Apex Express.