 who is homeless, in order to conduct sweeps on homeless camps. There's a new ruling out that's going to give cities and states much more latitude when it comes to clearing away homeless camps. And, you know, these are policies that do nothing to ameliorate the fact that people are being priced out of their own homes and that real estate prices in some places are simply unaffordable and that rents are way too high. I'm speaking with Wanda Bertram of the Prison Policy Initiative. And then states are building prisons again, too.