 Listeners may remember that it was the Dulles brothers. One was the head of the CIA and one was the Secretary of State. So that's how they used to operate in that by the 80s, you can't just go in and overthrow a government in the same way that you could in 54. And the ways that people use political influence is more sophisticated. But in this case, the Lindner family used a lot of political influence over and over and over