 In a way, that was the only world I knew. And there were 60 adults, among that were 12 married couples. And then 39 children came along, I was one of the oldest. And all of a sudden things really started to change. We had a number of houses in Cambridge and they built a big red stockade fence. So now the whole world was shut out. It's like a compound. A compound, absolutely. And then when I was six, the children were separated from the parents.