 Probably not in this case. I'm sure it was a lot of fun for the president. He had a very supportive and protective crowd there. We even heard somebody yell, lock him up when he talked about Donald Trump being found guilty on 34 counts. But he brought a sense of humor, Tim. And I think that gives us maybe a little bit of a sense of what we'll see with George Stephanopoulos. When he came out, he said, I've been here since I was a kid. I'm 40 now.