 And if you have black pepper with curcumin, it actually increases the chances of curcumin causing issues with the liver. In fact, I've looked at case reports because people have said, oh, curcumin causes issues with the liver. Really, I've seen very few case reports of curcumin alone being linked to anything in the liver. It's curcumin when it's given with black pepper extract, which itself, when it's super concentrated, can have issues with the liver. I'm actually buying a product that comes with curcumin.