 I'm Kevin Malcolm. Listen here for special features and more on Clicker Chat this morning, Monday through Friday from 8 until 9 on Goldendale's KLCK. So talking to Kathy Lee Gifford, she has a new book out called Herod and Mary. But I wanted just to get her thought on the changes she has seen since the assassination attempt. I think he's had a real spiritual awakening that has humbled him, and he knows truly.