 that we focus on a lot. He was in agreement with this idea of a 10% tariff across the board for imports into the US. And now you've got the US also, and Donald Trump thinking about being reelected or running for reelection. And he has talked about 60% tariffs on China. There's been a UBS report saying that that would actually halve economic growth in China, which I think is pretty significant, that sort of calculation.