 And I looked at them and I said, I'd be so angry too. I'd be so pissed. I said, but I don't understand. How does taking it away from them get it for you? That's my question. And then I guess here's the other question. And Anne, this is the other problem that we don't have by not talking to people, is that there wasn't a problem with welfare, Anne. There was a problem with work.