 in terms of transportation, cost, and out-of-town hotel rooms. And I said, this thing's going to cost millions of dollars if it's any way at all successful. And we could much cheaper accomplish nearly the same thing if we had a National Lesbian and Gay Rights Congress elect delegates from every city. And he said, well, how can you do that? These people are at war with each other in every one of these cities. And I said, well,