 like Providence Health Care was, and the New York Times for doing this kind of stuff, two-thirds of them said, oh my God, I didn't even know it was happening. One-third of them said, well, you know, that's just the way it is. And that's the way it is. So all of these different arrangements, and if one group's doing it, well, the other group thinks they can do it and get away with it too. And they, I mean,