 from elsewhere in the budget. But fundamentally, the question is also, is Europe ready to embrace this concept more fulsomely of its own defence and collective defence? And this is something the French President Emmanuel Macron has talked a lot about, is that Europe's really not prepared for many years to sort of relying on the umbrella of NATO as a deterrent, for example, to Russia. But is that fit for purpose in 10, 20 years from now? And so it's going beyond just what is the headline figure for deterrence.