 her older sons their names are still true and that's how we've kind of been able to make some connections on facebook it's like a true crime podcast yeah yeah well i think you guys from from a relational standpoint i think it's a i think your dad um if he if he wants to go this far and and you know be a blessing financially to this child uh my advice to him would be you guys pull out all the stops right now you hire private detectives you go find the guy