 And I think she's totally right. And I think part of the problem we have is in the white shoe law firms that have the revolving doors into the halls of power in legal circles. So much of the culture is one of urbanity, is one of nice table clauses, one of politeness, is one of not recognizing that we need to be Nazi fighters. That's Sarah Kinsey's take. I adopt it. I think she's smart and wise.