 So the president says to his staffer, hey, go out and sell pardons for $100,000. The staffer would not be required to come and testify that the president told me to go sell pardons for $100,000. The staffer could face charges, at least for now. Okay. So let me go through some more of these because they're all so troubling. I mean, keep in mind, just like we have executive privilege that filters down and