 Esther Holt on NBC, he made it very clear his biggest objection to Trump is that Trump questions the results of the 2020 election, which Joe Biden has decided is a threat to democracy. We're not actually a democracy. We're a republic. And I thought that would make it a good time to talk to Christine Miles, who's the author of a brand new, critically acclaimed and bestselling book called What Is It Costing You Not to Listen? Ms. Miles, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me.