 you know, a really nice family, um, Frank and Jeannie miles, uh, back on the West side, they were members of my church congregation. Um, you know, when I was confirmed in the Lutheran church, they gave me, gave me a book called, uh, the giving tree. And, uh, in this book, uh, it's a great book for children, you know, kind of, I think as I took it as a kid, um, you know, I took the message as, you know, it's better to give than to receive. And, uh, you know, in this, in this book, um,