 And not only did they not see a reduction in infections, they had many more infections than the non-vaccinated kids. So Paul is a wonderful, ethical human being who sees the data in front of him. He listens to the parents who are coming into his office and they're saying, I vaccinated my older kid. They have this, this, this, this, and this. And now I'm not vaccinating this kid and this kid doesn't have to go to the doctor at all because there's nothing wrong, right?