 Donald, he will listen to people. He's fascinated by people and he wants to learn. He wants to grow. Now, once he became president. So hang on just a second, Kathy. I've got to take a quick one minute break and then we're going to come back and I want you to finish the story. But I'm up against the clock here. So let me just take a quick break. 60 seconds and we're back. Relief Relief Factor is our sponsor.