 Then you got Ohio State. Then you got Washington. You know, two teams that are elite programs. I just question Penn State's ability to beat the big boys. They beat everybody else. But if they're going to make the postseason, they're going to have to win one or two games that under James Franklin they haven't. Yeah, and I think talent-wise they can go on the road and beat USC. Talent-wise they can go on the road and beat Wisconsin.