 I wanted to start with this quote from Frederick Jameson. Quote, it is easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism, end quote. But recently I started reading Fred Moten and Stefano Harney's The Undercommons. And I'd like to begin this interview with a passage from Fred Moten, whom you'd referenced in our first conversation. Quote, you talk about being able to be in two places at the same time.