 The odds that gun violence will be on the RNC agenda in light of the fact that gun-related deaths are rising each year are slim to zero. My guest is Kamau Franklin, founder of Community Movement Builders. He's been a community organizer for more than 30 years, first in New York City and now Atlanta. He recently co-wrote a story in Yes Magazine called In Atlanta, Police Violence Ties Together Protests for Gaza and Stop Cop City. Welcome to the program, Kamau. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.