 I'm getting there, though, I promise. So we're already done with Baby Step 1. We're on Baby Step 2. We have $530,000 of debt. And so I was just trying to figure out what is the fastest way to get through that because I'm eager to get to Baby Step 3 so I can feel a little bit more secure. What kind of debt is the $530,000? Does this include real estate debt, a mortgage? No.