 And you felt that the latter really were able to grasp these concepts that we've been talking about here in a more personal and intimate way than the other kids. And that was a very transformative experience for you. I wonder if you could talk about that. Sure, and I'd be happy to. I had the great pleasure of teaching for 10 years in something called the Odyssey Project, which was a night course for adults roughly at the poverty line focused on the humanities, giving them college lessons.