 And believe me, that kills him. But then there's this other thing that's going on inside of him where he has such proximity to the president. The next Democratic president is not going to be spending all day watching Morning Joe. OK, because they're going to go to bed before 11 a.m. OK, or after 11 a.m. Joe Biden watches Morning Joe like it's a late night show. OK, the White House calls a lit around noon most days and the guy goes to bed. OK, so Morning Joe to him is like late night programming.