 skilled teachers and trainers and coaches we had for like, how do you build mass movement and sustain it? Because I want to argue there are principles and there are methods and they matter. So the people who were skilled in that, and it's a lineage I inherited because there's still people doing the training work, right? But I don't invent any of it. I inherited every skill I got was like trained into me and apprenticed into me by really smart people before me. So