 On today's show, we'll learn how our neighboring native communities are rejecting our state's militaristic approaches to fighting fires by stewarding relationship with it. My guests today are Denise J. Martinez and Tony Marks Block, researchers of and co-authors on an article called Indigenous Fire Futures, Anti-Colonial Approaches to Shifting Fire Relations in California. All that and more coming up after the news. I'm Christina Onestead with KPFA News Headlines.