 Well, let's talk a little bit more. Let's go back a little and talk a little bit more about how you got to that comfort level. And I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about your relationship with Spanky, learning some things from Spanky and introduce Spanky to listeners who don't know who that is. And then how you ended up in some of these very black touring bands where you were the white chick in the band, as you described.