 I remember I've got a friend who was in Toastmasters, and they actually have this competition every year for the world's best public speaker. And she was a finalist a couple of years in a row, actually. Really, really great communicator and coach. And she kept on telling me, hey, I'm a part of this club. It's called Toastmasters. It really helps people develop. They're speaking to you. I'm like, no. It's not like AA for speakers.