 I live in Eatonville, Washington. All right. So but we might be able to help you or I could refer you to somebody who could help you with this. But let's just keep going. We want this kitchen to look super high end, but we don't want to have to remodel the whole kitchen. So I'm going to tell you that oak looks really good when it is painted in a dark color and we want to see the grain. We don't want to get rid of the grain.