 I would also say, adding on to that, or maybe kind of putting an explanation point on the end of it, is what we're talking about is mass politics in many ways, popular politics. Anti-fascism as experienced 20, 25, 30 years ago often did take a more militarized kind of physical force cadre form with what they were going up against. And it isn't to say that today and in the coming period that there's going to be no need for