 is not talked about. It's like it's nothing. It's just something that they do. And the starvation, too. I think a lot of people misunderstand that it's not just a switch that you can turn off and then switch back on and everything's going to be fine. It's going to have very long-term effects, even epigenetic effects. We know from studies in the Netherlands from World War II, from China, from Bangladesh, that when famines...