 and yet still, you know, still very cozy with business interests to some degree. Okay, Kate, thanks so much. Kate Ackley here. Wendell Wilkie. Oh, there you go. Really? Ari was in my ears. How did Ari get that? I mean, he's huge. I mean, you know, he bails out Lisa Matei on a daily basis. I mean. Wendell Wilkie. Yeah, sure. Who doesn't know Wendell Wilkie? Well, my grandfather, like, had a button or something, you know.