 And at the end of the symposium, he made this comment that nothing was going to change in American politics unless somebody came in from the outside. So I called this guy up, and I said, I've seen you on the symposium, and I also saw you about a week ago on C-SPAN talking to some college students, and you made the same comment twice. So I'm thinking about being the guy who would come in from the outside to run for president. And his jaw dropped a little bit. And I said, do you ever come to California?