 black female vice president from the ticket in favor of anyone else in public. That will never work. So she is the logical next candidate. My wife and I did a dance in our kitchen when Joe Biden, literally in our kitchen, which is very small and I'm very tall, so it was kind of uncomfortable. When he chose her, because we told each other this means he wants to win. He knows what it takes to win. And putting her on the ticket was what was necessary to win.