 So my best friend, Mary Katherine Hamm, she'll be with us on the program later in the week. I think we've got her tomorrow. She knows a thing or two about grief and loss. She, of course, lost her husband now years ago in an accident while she was pregnant. She's happily remarried. They have four kids combined from the two marriages, and it's just a wonderful family. But that's something that you never let go of. That's something that never leaves you.