 Corporate media is a catastrophe and a joke. So we're just going to attack the tone. Whatever you say, it'll be wrong. And if you know that going in, you can judge the honor of the person who's asking the questions. I noted that Jonathan Shate interpreted that Lester Holt interview by saying that Lester Holt did a good job because he interpreted the unintelligible grunts as words, as Han Solo interprets Chewbacca.