 I always was surprised at the times among the top editors, the level of mediocrity. I mean, you and I were kind of management headaches, which is what good reporters should be. But I'm not going to name names, but you know them as well as I do. But I always was stunned. And I think it's because they were completely obsequious to the power of the institution and understood what was good for their careers and advancement. And beyond that, they didn't really have much.