 And he's talking about how Frank Luntz had organized that dinner that I was just mentioning. And he was very happy about that. The dinner tables were set in a square. This was at the Caucus Room restaurant in a private dining room, a little restaurant down at the corner on 9th and D Street. The dinner tables were set in a square at Luntz's request so that everyone could see each other and talk freely. He asked that Gingrich speak first. Gingrich was happy to oblige.