 They would say, oh, that's a one-off. You know, like, we don't always hold counsel. That story is an anomaly. Or like, oh, yeah, that's what we do all the time. So we consider it really important to do these dialogue sessions. And when I say we, it's not we as the lawyers at West Coast Environmental Law that are doing this work of case briefing with stories. It's we have researchers in communities that are doing the work. So people who are, you know, really familiar with the language and language