 And it boiled on down to it looked like we weren't going to get quiet enough to do no good in the meeting. So they decided that we needed to break from that place and set up what they call a charrette. And then they asked CP to be co-chair and asked me, and I told them, no, I didn't want to be co-chair with no Klansman. I wasn't going to work with no Klansman.