 Ella joined us for the last few minutes of our shows this week as a resistance in residence artist, and you can listen to my full-length conversation with her on our podcast. That's it for the day, family. Law and Disorder airs weekdays at 8 a.m. You can check for information about topics, guests, and featured artists online at kpfa.org. Listen and subscribe to the podcast version of the show by searching for Law and Disorder with Kat Brooks anywhere you stream podcasts and follow us on social media at