 My guest has been Jules Boykoff, a professor of politics and government at Pacific University in Forest Grove, Oregon. And his latest book is called What Are the Olympics for? Issues for Policy and Practice. I'm Sonali Kulhatkar, senior editor at Yes Media and host of Yes Presents, Rising Up with Sonali. You can find this program at yesmagazine.org. Watch it on free speech TV and listen to it on community and independent radio stations nationwide. Our audio podcast is on iTunes and Spotify.