 progressive candidate being the nominee for president on the Democratic side. So he wants just a process to play out where he learns more. Casey Hunt asking him, do you want to be her running mate? Do you want to be vice president? No, he's 76. He's too old. He said he knows that it's going to be somebody younger, but still very engaged with this. And I'm sure a real thorn in the side of many Democrats, as he has been over the last couple of years.