 The time for the middle ground is over, over, over. Good morning, family. Today is one of my personal least favorite holidays, the 4th of July. You're listening to Law & Disorder on KPFA, and I'm your host, Jesse Strauss. Today I'll be in conversation with Robert Jones Jr., also known as son of Baldwin, about his novel The Prophets, which vividly brings us into antebellum slavery through a love story between two enslaved men.