 You know, they rail a spot up. They'll get a spot on, you know, to interview him on the radio. And he holds his cards close to the desk. It's almost like the top government secrets or something. So what's going on with Berlander? Well, he's progressing. Okay, what about Tucker? Well, we're being careful with it. He won't expound on it. In other words, with Berlander in his deck, we don't know if it's a pinched nerve or something more serious.