 It's the fact that we choose not to have a federal minimum wage that allows people to have a basic income. It's the fact that we do not have universal childcare. It's the fact that we don't have universal healthcare. It's the fact that we don't have free education. It's all of these systems that we could choose to fit that we're opting out of fixing, which is why we have poverty. So I think the way that we shift the narrative on poverty is being very honest.