 Now, the weird thing is, and again, this is where some of the criticism of Sean O'Brien is. And as I've said before, I don't question his passion to fight for working people. But this this stuff, it's scary. I want to hear your thoughts. Email me, Rick at the Rick Smith show dot com. We come back. Stephen Greenhouse is going to be here to share some thoughts on the speech. And well, what is going to mean to the labor movement? Back after this.