 A lot of people out there and tremendous amount of money spent. And most of us are counted as the people who've made up our minds. We can have impact on a presidential primary. And if there is a presidential primary of Joe Biden, it will be his decision to be clear. And I have no influence with him. If Joe Biden decides that he don't think he's up for it, there will be a robust debate about who should be the nominee. And then active activist base, including the community of this program, would have some influence.