 The Lions, when they did the hard knocks with the Lions, everybody's like, ah, Lions suck, who cares? No, Lions are really good. And you're like, oh, hard knocks is pretty interesting. Going back, I think you're going to feel the same way about the Bears when it's all said and done. That's how I think you're going to think about this. I just don't feel like the Saints are in the national conversation like they were when Sean Payton was there. That's just what I'm saying. We'll see how they play. We'll see what Derek Carr does. Carr had a great...