 Still a busy commute on southbound I-5 coming out of that south end of Everett. So just south of 128, that's where you're going to start to really fight the drive. And it's going to be a fight as you work your way out of Mount Lake Terrace. Then it's some lighter slowing out of Shoreline into Northgate. And then at that point, the commute thickens up again and it stays really busy most of the way to the convention center on southbound 405. Kind of doing the same thing as you come out of that.