 was Peter Thiel. And we're going to talk about Peter Thiel with a good friend of this show, Professor Robert Bozanko. He's a professor of U.S. foreign policy at the University of Houston. He currently hosts the Green and Red podcast. That's a discussion of politics and history. Professor Bozanko, it is great to have you back with us today. It's good to talk to you as always, Dennis.