 What ended up happening was the sculptures were beautiful, but I was beginning to resent the time that it took to carve the wood. And I was just interested in the words. And I got really, really interested in the words, you know, in a material way, kind of a plastic way, not really a way that was so much about meaning, but it's about the way that the words actually looked. And at this point, I had these collectors that were down in Florida collecting.