 But he was on the defensive, even though he tried to get the conversation back onto Donald Trump. Yeah, indeed. John, thank you so much for being with us. Our U.S. government editor, John Harney, there in Washington to discuss, well, Trump's pick for vice president. Also, I think, really fascinating on the Bloomberg terminal this morning. Bloomberg opinion columnist Patricia Lopez has been writing about J.D. Vance, the ultra-conservative senator from Ohio.