 I can speak to, to like my own experience as an activist has revolved around a lot of struggle here in Oakland and specifically like cop watching, doing like encampment defense for like unhoused folks on the street who are struggling to like hold on to what little they have. Um, things that involved a lot of like for better or for worse, like what you would call protective presence. Um, and so it wasn't a completely unfamiliar field to me. Um,