 All right. I want to go back. I want to interview some of these people involved in that New York Times editorial. I want to interview them when they're 81 and ask them if they have anything worth giving anymore. The ageism that is allowed to be crept into the current discussion is getting a little toxic. I didn't like the debate result. I didn't like the debate process. I didn't like how the debate went at all. And, and...