 these sort of rather staid and very conventional studios. EMI, of course, had this reputation of the guys with the white coats and the pens in the pockets, and they had all the big glasses and the weird hair and stuff like that. But we were not like that. We were an indie studio. So Jimmy had already started recording, as I've said, and Chaz, his producer, and Jimmy were a little unhappy with the sounds that they'd been getting.