 Right, but historically, in many countries, but in the U.S. there's a lot of clear, for example, in a book that I have called Building Walls, it's about how it's not only building the bricks, the physical wall in the U.S.-Mexico border, it's over 200 years of discourse of difference, that Mexicans are some type of human and Americans are a different one, even though there's a lot of mixture, a lot of interchange, a lot of, there's been Latinos in the U.S. before the U.S. became a country,