 There's also the fact that CPAC, right, this big conservative conclave, is very close to people like the former president in Brazil, Bolsonaro, and Bolsonaro's son. He was an autocrat. You find connections like that all over the place. They're not really hiding the fact that conservative movements are trying to move away from inclusive, multiracial democracies towards something very different. And that's why we call Project 2025 a pathway to autocracy.