 Would that then suggest, and you mentioned earlier, this isn't to forgive Putin in the invasion of Iraq or to let him off the hook, but would this suggest that what we're seeing now potentially could have happened regardless of Putin, that this was predictable? Talbot, in that, I don't know if he's going to listen to this broadcast, but Talbot, in a memo to Clinton in 1995, I believe it was 1995, said that virtually...