 explore your feed or whatever it is. And I'm going to say yes or no, or this within this bounds or whatever negotiation we need to make. And then we'll do that. And then by the time you, each person asks both questions, you've, you've created four rounds. And in one of them, I'm doing what I want. And another one, I'm doing what you want. And you discover pretty quickly that there's a, quite a bit of difference between those two things.