 My first music was not conscious, uplifting music, let's just say that. But I don't know what they saw in me, but they saw that I could probably do more than what I was doing, and they were right. You know, Elena, you were talking, we're speaking with Elena and Nauru of the Eastside Arts, Center Eastside Arts Alliance, which is a collective. The other evening when you were speaking after the David Murray speech,