 And as for Ivanka, she and Jared have made clear that they're steering clear of the campaign this year. I mean, they have actually said that. So I, you know, I don't know that they're going to be at the debate at all. It's clear that Trump's two sons will be at the debate. They're sort of appendages, as it were, of the Donald. We shall see. Still more mysteries about the debate and the two minutes after the debate.