 in the middle of a catastrophe you tend to sort of hunker down on what you know and the labor movement again like and these are not new ideas in the labor movement they're ones that have been sort of out of uh out of fashion maybe for quite a long time so you didn't have this kind of leadership that's now coming from some of these unions around this issue back then and people were kind of like trying to hang on to what they had which you know is sort of understandable but