 I said, well, you all were against apartheid. Why did it take so long to bring it down? But I don't mind at all for people 20 years from now would say, I was never a Zionist, which is fine. So I think that we should analyze it correctly. If people say to us, let's wait for a peace camp in Israel to bring an end to the violence, we should say, no, there's no way that this peace camp will ever be