 Hassan Kanu is a reporter for the Washington-based think tank The American Prospect. He said business and conservative interests have had the doctrine in their sights for a long time. That's what you hear when you hear folks talk about dismantling the administrative state, right, when you hear Trump talk about the deep state sometimes. And what this really translates to really is sort of curtailing or dismantling federal regulation of business. That's oftentimes what the real end goal of these efforts are.