 And I had a little weirder than everybody else because I had a book come out during the pandemic. Then I just sort of said yes to every podcast in the world, whether they had 300,000 listeners or three listeners, because what else was I going to do? I was stuck at home. And then you had people who were going to work and their job had just become, again, much more dangerous. And so to them, I did with my podcast co-host, Michelle Chen, we did a whole series of just talking to workers about their conditions.