 of relying on surrogate states like Iran and Israel to be the base for the projection of American power. And Israel at that point appeared to be in a position of just overwhelming military dominance, and the same with Iran. And this seemed to be from the point of view of someone like Kissinger, who's, I should say, whose understanding of history and politics is extremely limited and primitive, but who does understand violence very well. He understands the mailed fist.