 more social equality, his challenges of big business, his affection for conservation, so many contradictions in this story. Where do you find yourself landing in your opinion of him these many years later? Well, I think that you said it pretty well, that he is a multifaceted guy. He was a trust buster. He was against the big trusts. He was wealthy himself, but he was not a robber baron, and he didn't like them very much.