 to move forward. If you're always dealing with people who think exactly like you, I don't feel like you could ever move forward. You have to listen to what other people have to say and test your strength and your weaknesses against what you're saying and your arguments against what other people are saying. If there's pushback, how can we figure that out? That's what happens in a lot of these meetings, but we all walk away still loving each other and still focusing on