 More fundamentally, it's the difference between the decision around trying to change people's minds, trying to persuade them to not support Trump and to switch to Biden. That is folly, and there's very little evidentiary support for that. We're at a historic low point of swing voters within this country that the polls have shown. So it's more about mobilization. Stacey Abrams has this phrase of persuasion is like trying to get a Baptist to become a Catholic. Mobilization is trying to get a Baptist to go to church.