 Merlin um and then you said uh about the stone about Jung and and his carving in the stone at Bollingen so I toss it to you on that yeah you stones are very eloquent they're very slow in speaking it can take a thousand years to understand them but they're very eloquent uh and so when when Jung when Jung was building his place in Bollingen the the the quarry people brought him a square stone at which he not ordered he ordered a triangular stone and he's and the uh