 6.8 followed. So they got two quakes in November of 87, predicted four years in advance, and Steve Kilson, the astronomer, was elated, and I've heard him speak. I sat in the audience and heard him talking about syzygies and perigees and perihelions and saying, the U.S. Geological Survey won't return my calls. And then Dr. Knopfhoff had an interesting reaction. He's an emeritus professor of seismology at UCLA. A world reputation to uphold.