 And we had to use our compass. It was the first time I ever had to use a compass to navigate in Arizona to get across the top of it to look at the Sycamore Basin. When we reached the other side to look at the basin, we saw nothing. And the sun was going down. We saw no lights. Coming back, we're walking through the forest in the dark on the top of the mountain. And I think it was Alexander nudging me again. He goes, look. Very nonchalantly, I looked up, and there's one of these amber balls of light through the trees. And it's coming from the opposite side of the mountain. So we're watching it. It appears to change shape.