 Well, thank you. It's been a great, great pleasure. You're a terrific interviewer. Thank you, Michaela. Thank you. Well, that is all the time that we have for today. Tomorrow on Vermont Edition, we're going to be exploring the history of Vermont's poor farms, also known as town farms. Vermont's poor farms used to be required by law as a way to provide welfare for local residents. We'll air a recent episode of the podcast, Brave Little State, followed by a live discussion about it.