 It's a mixture. So, yeah, no, I am moving towards feeling more comfortable about being hopeful. It comes from understanding that the ocean is very resilient and it can come back. There's a lot of recovery stories we can look to. And also people, you know, in studying and writing and thinking about these things, there is a really growing voice for the ocean. You know, when I was back when I was becoming a marine biologist many years ago, I felt like quite a lone voice and it wasn't something that was being talked about. It wasn't something that was in the...