 Mr Starmer hammered away on the sort of idea that after 14 years of what he said was sort of chaos and instability, declining living standards under the Conservatives, surely it was time for a change. But in many ways, one of the most revealing moments of it came when a member of the audience said, with a sort of sigh in his voice, are you two really the best that this country has to offer? And there was a massive cheer, the biggest cheer of the night from the audience. And I thought that was significant.