 I'm here with journalists and hosts of the very serious podcast, Josh Barrow and Zoe Clark, political director at Michigan Public. And let's get right back to the phones. And let's go to Adrian in Corona, California. Adrian, welcome to the middle. Go ahead. Hi, thanks for having me. Sorry, can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Go ahead. Oh, hi. So I just I think my reaction to this debate has just been that I think