 We will have to leave it at the supernatural force of capitalism. Lydia Polgreen is a columnist for the New York Times and co-host of the Times podcast, Matter of Opinion. Christopher Ojeda is a political scientist at University of California, Merced. His forthcoming book is The Sad Citizen. Thanks to both of you. Notes from America is a production of WNYC Studios. Follow us wherever you get your podcasts and on Instagram at Notes with Kai.