 can't even have a reasonable conversation about the many difficult complicated problems that we face and a lot of callers have been saying it but i echo that sentiment that it's just sad that this is what we have in front of us i won't vote for either one of these guys in the fall um i live in a red state even if i voted for biden it wouldn't matter so i do have that uh benefit that i can kind of pick for whoever i want to vote and that's what i'll be doing it won't be one of these guys