 I said, yes. He said, next time, Kurt, you might want to tell him to back up a few steps. I said, thank you, Ken. Exactly. Oh, man. So Ken was not giving me any niceties of, oh, Kurt, you look fine. He was like, you might want to tell him to back up, Kurt. It's one of the things I appreciate about Ken. He still will give it right to you. I really appreciate that.