 This is The Middle. I'm Jeremy Hobson. We're asking you this hour for your thoughts on the presidential debate between President Biden and former President Trump. You can call us at 844-4MIDDLE. That's 844-464-3353. You can also reach out to us at listentothemiddle.com. I'm joined by Michigan Public Political Director Zoe Clark and Josh Barrow, host of the Very Serious podcast. And let's go right back to the phones. And Jennifer, who's in Minneapolis. Jennifer,