 that does not surprise me in the least uh... you know i've uh... i the other thing it didn't surprise me that it's not clear i guess we had one caller who said that the we had decided to vote for a third party candidate because of this but we didn't have a lot of people actually indicating the debated had changed their intentions he saw a lot of people disappointed about in the way that a candidate they preferred at performed which i think you know i i mean that's actually not surprising to me i think you know usually debates don't change the way the people vote