 McGregor Mathers, Dion Fortune, people of this ilk. All the heavyweights at the time, that's right. Oscar Wilde, A.E. Waite. There was a lot of people that really were in that system at that time. And so I found it by the early 90s, and I did my time with them. When I actually left there, I ended up working at a very famous occult shop in Hollywood called Panpipes.