 proposals from each of these and to our point that he's also talked about like what's very different with this race is like we've seen four years now with both of these presidents and so it's not just what they want to do it's what they did and that's at some point what voters are going to have to dig into and decide right is like looking at those policy there's going to be plenty of people who go i can't vote for joe biden but i'm going to because of the policy or because of the party because of what i believe in