 That's where I see the differences between the two. Now, you said you met a long time ago Anton LaVey. Mm-hmm. Wasn't he a Satanist? Yeah. Well, he claims to be a Satanist. But remember what a Satanist is in the Church of Satan. It's not worshiping an anthropomorphic deity. It's an ideal. You know, when LaVey created that, he was tired of hippies being on his lawn.