 That's why you had no terror at all during my administration. This place, the whole world is blowing up under him. But it was an example of him, at least at that moment, not really meeting Biden in the mud. Right. And what seems to happen for the next 10 or 15 minutes in the debate is that Biden keeps trying to get under Trump's skin and really make the case that there's nothing about him that makes him fit to be president.