 by that history and the various attitudes that, that people were expressing that I was fascinated. And I said, I think I need to write a novel about this. Well, we'll hear more about that novel in just a moment. First, let's bring in some callers. We have Nils in Duxbury on the line. Nils here on the air. Go ahead. Thanks for taking my call. I've been curious about this process and, and, and, uh,