 And it can be a really hard job, can't it? So Susie mentioned stress there. Is the idea it would help you deal with that stress? Absolutely. I wish I had access to these sorts of approaches. I've had burnout as a GP family physician. You feel overwhelmed, overworked. You're not giving the type of care you'd like to give, all those feelings. And the people who went to these workshops talked about the growing sort of Amazon culture.