 So we're around. Well, that's a fascinating story. Did your grandpa get to meet Jerry? You weren't sure, huh? I'm not sure if he did. I kind of think he did. I think he met Mike Aldrich and some of the other people. He had a little shop down in Escondido called the Fiddle Fret Shop. And he came from a long line. When I first got struck by the Dobro, of course, I became a fanatic and read up all about it. And...