 Wiccan group called the Druidic Craft of the Wise. That would have been in 1989 with a woman named Judith Dufresne. And I learned with them. After that went on, I moved on to my second group. And it was more along the Gardnerian tradition, still Wicca. And I did a year and a day with that group as well. And after that time, I moved forward and I joined the Golden Dawn Group.