 for an interview with Dr. Hess. A month and a half after Jose's death, I visited Dr. Gregory Hess. He's the medical examiner from Pima County, Arizona, who performed the autopsy and reviewed Jose's file from when he was detained. He was having what they were describing as delusional thoughts. So he was trying to bang his head against the wall, saying people were going to kill him, just kind of bizarre behavior. And he was seen by a psychologist at that facility.