 This is Vermont Public, 1079 WVPS Burlington, 88.9 WVBA Brattleboro, 88.7 WRVT Rutland, 94.3 WBTNFM Bennington, 88.5 WVPA St. Johnsbury, 89.5 WVPR Windsor, and on your smart speaker. From WHYY in Philadelphia, this is Fresh Air. I'm David Bean Poole.