 And he was in San Francisco, and so he just went for the shock and awe, and created psychodramas, and built rituals around the ideals of that. You know, but when you look at the Satanic statements, they're really not what people imagine a Satanist to be. That's why I think, you know, once people started realizing what he really was, he was basically a, you know, he was very nihilistic in his approach.