 conservative but not not when it came to like economics and things like that he was for rent control all that kind of stuff my father never would see a person like a person would come up to him some guy just totally disheveled and ask him for money and my father would give him whatever a couple of bucks he had and he would always say i would say why you do that dad that could be used someday that could happen to anybody we don't know what happened to that guy so he was a very