 Right demeanor, right answers. I mean, it was just really good. And then there's a political perspective. You've said this, Clay, it's a Big Ten election. Yes. Right? And here's a guy from Ohio State who is... Only thing I can say bad about him, we're in Wisconsin right now. I know there's a lot of badgers who feel that way. I'm a badger. I'm married to a Michigan girl. Yeah, you went to Wisconsin. I kind of say, Jim, I'd never been exposed before to all the Big Ten smack talking about SEC until I came to Milwaukee.