 But they've spent all that money, and when you say to them, what exactly did you spend all that money on? They say, well, we shoveled the cash out, but we actually have no idea where it went. And I kid you not, it's that bad. And I've talked about it with my friend Nick Shivers, who's one of the great supporters of this program. He's in the real estate business, the Nick Shivers team. Nick, welcome back to the program. Lars, always a pleasure to be here again, sir.