 And he had a house that he had like $30,000 of credit card debt, but he needed like $10,000 to do this and $5,000 to do this to fix his house. And all he had was Social Security, right? And so he couldn't figure it out. So anyway, he found out he had a rental property, ended up doing a lot of credit on that or refinancing that, dropped his bill. I mean, like $1,000 a month of cash flow he created for this guy. Yeah, that's right.