 I would say the same thing about Wes Moore. Just looking at him, I saw that interview. And Michelle Obama's not like that. Hey, Jerry, what about Wes Moore? And I don't know about Gavin Newsom, I have no idea, but what about Wes Moore? He looks, he does not look like he's married to a woman, let's put it that way. And Michelle Obama, she's unlike, just like Hillary Clinton.