 It's kind of a bullying kind of... Well, and you know, it's funny you use the term hothead, Jim, because I thought the same thing. It was almost like Matt lost his cool. I mean, it was like he saw him and he was enraged. And if you heard the way he said it, I mean, first he taunted him by saying, what time are you speaking tonight? Because he knew he wasn't speaking. That was a taunt. And of course, McCarthy ignored him and was still talking to somebody else. And then Gates stepped it up.