 He had lawyers on the staff covering the courts. He had people who knew things. You know, he wanted people with different life experiences in their reporting stuff. And in addition to the blue bloods, there were there were a few of those. But most of the people were just regular people. And they didn't. A journalism degree was a disqualifier at the Post back in the 1970s when I worked there. And I was glad I didn't have one.