 in new jersey that were great writers here is the deal it was a working-class kinda job journalism most the people that when i first got to the washington post started to work there there are a lot of the blue bloods but you know what there were people there angus phillips who was the greatest one of the greatest outdoor writers a beautiful writer had no college education they didn't hire people with college education says so shall you had to be able to write you had to be able to go out and follow the go to the police station and ferret through documents and find stuff