 No, I think they're worried about having to step up and the confluence of events. He's not stepping out of NATO, right? Correct. I don't believe anybody there legitimately believes that Trump is going to step out of NATO. I think what they're looking at is they've been able to look the other way or count on the U.S. to look the other way while they've shirked their responsibilities. And in between Russia being on the doorstep and now an impending Trump administration, I think you're going to actually see some of us with the greatest NATO partners that we've ever had.