 Um, and so I'm not a moral relativist as an atheist. That's unusual. And I'm also not politically liberal, um, which is also unusual for atheists. Most of them are liberal. Um, I'm more libertarian or classical liberal, not quite conservative, but you know, I hold a lot of those values. So that's also unusual, you know, so there's a wide range of beliefs there. How do you think this all began if there wasn't some divine intelligence behind it?