 Then I went to Pepperdine University in Malibu to major in theology, and I took the whole thing pretty seriously. But then after about seven years, I ended up giving it up. I wasn't really an atheist. I just was nothing. And, you know, this was back in the 70s and 80s when the whole atheism thing didn't even exist. And there was no real war between science and religion, none of that.