 from the human school, from the human experience, when they go on and they finally have had enough, they are extremely well-respected out there. Basically, when it's one of these situations, you find someone that no longer comes back into human form, no longer needs the experience, goes on and does other bigger, better things. I mean, infinity is a long time to be alive, so they have to keep on doing things. But when other beings interact with someone who's graduated from the human experience,