 In polls and interviews, voters say they are seeking fresh voices to take on Mr. Trump. And you know what? You hear all these polls and everything. I want to see what independents are saying. That's all that matters. Look, there are the people like me who aren't going to vote for Trump if he runs with Jesus. I'm just not going to do it. And there are people, many of you listening right now, who are not going to vote for Biden no matter what. I understand that. I understand that. So that mushy middle, what do they think?