 is learning from those principles so investing is not necessarily our savings isn't the answer in fact it's not i've seen so many people i'm going wait a second you made a half a million days 750 000 over the last 20 years and this is what you have um so i started asking questions because i can see the numbers these are super savers we're talking about yeah super savers i think so um how many years you've been married okay 36 years okay