 and if you start early like that brand new 60 000 truck we were talking about if you start while the vehicle's new you can actually get that product to be lifetime warrantied on your vehicle so at that point we do touch-ups every couple years to make sure we're getting in the channels like we need to all the places you can't see that we've talked about we want to make sure we're touching those up because you can't you can't keep rust out of there forever if you don't keep