 So I don't understand that. So you're saying that man's law is above God's law, which is the ultimate reality and the truth? Even I don't understand how people who are on the right, if they say they're Roman Catholics, well, the Pope, the Pope who speaks for them, right? He's the head guy. He says it's murder. Any abortion is murder. And so I don't understand how somebody can say, well, I'm a Roman Catholic, but I'm okay for abortion up to 15 weeks. Well, join another religion.