 I bet. So he'll have some interesting anecdotes about that. He said he doesn't mind if I introduce he and Carrie as the jewel of the Ebrel Isle and Chef Boyardee. And so they're coming up next at 9 right here on News Talk 790 WNS. And Mike was out there at the rally, so I don't know if Carrie was. I don't know that she was or she wasn't.