 They were talking about charts and all these graphs and all these whatever numbers, and they didn't understand day in, day out. It's the first of the month. I've got 20 people in my office. Can I get you your report next week? So it's just learning from the ground up and seeing people that have that passion and really want to care and take care of people. What do you see now that you've been through every level of the apartment association that