 But not just speeches. You have people that are good at speeches. You know, I can remember back in the 80s when Jesse Jackson would speak and people would say, what a great speaker. Yeah, but when he sat down to articulate his ideas, it was the same thing over and over again. Right. Ramaswami gives great speeches, but he can sit down and he can go point by point by point by point by point on the minutia of things and make you go, whoa, this guy really knows what's going on.