 reality and it's like gavin newsom in that head-to-head with ronda santos where he just denied the statistics that hannity kept putting on the board i mean you can't deny what's happening out there people don't like joe biden right now well the new york post called it an intervention masquerading as an interview i love that it was an intervention steve moore did you see it what'd you think well it's funny larry i just was on box news a few minutes ago and um