 Totally conservative, it's not all. He understands the needs of unions, like the auto workers unions and the teamsters unions. There was a reason Sean O'Brien was there the other night. I mean, he likes the way J.D. Vance voted to help the railroad workers get sick leave. For God's sakes, they couldn't get sick pay. J.D. Vance has crossed the aisle a number of times. He's not the radical they're going to try to make him out to be.