 for a black person to get ahead. And so you had affirmative action. And it certainly, I think, whether it was constitutional or not, was necessary because you needed some remedy. Was it going to be perfect? No, it wasn't going to be perfect. But you had to give these people a chance because people weren't giving them a chance. And back in those days, there was institutional racism. It was in the government. It was in the mayor. It was in the police. And so there was no way for these people to get ahead. Now,