 And the most estimates I've seen come in at about 4%. But that's about the number, as far as GDP, that is being spent by some of the front-line states, most importantly the polls. The United States comes in at about 3.5%. But you also have to look beyond the numbers and look at what they're actually buying. One of the real problems for NATO will be manpower, and some people suggest that NATO needs to add manpower.