 well i thought he wasn't good at the debates i thought i beat him badly in both debates some people said i was too aggressive in the first one and should have let him talk more which i probably would agree with that but i beat i beat him in both debates easily by every standard and second debate he was saying things that were crazy uh he talked about energy remember the last question i said it's perry mason time you know meaning he said he admitted something that he should have never said