 So if you try to drill, which people have, trying to find those studs, and they screw it up, no pun intended there, but that's not good. So you can't put that grab bar in there. And if you do, it's not because you're attaching it to the actual flimsy tub and shower wall system. You don't have anything there. That gives you a false sense of security. And then when you do find a stud that if you have a flat surface,