 Well, the reality is there is no secret, but there is a lot of information you don't even know you don't know. That's the reality. People that have done real estate investing for years show up at our seminar, listen to it, and go, my gosh, I wish I would have listened to this 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Because I've been investing, but all of these ideas to maximize or improve the returns, I mean, I was making some money.