 That, I had to, like, practice this quite a lot because I didn't know how far I could push it. And your guest, Donna, mentioned that. Well, you're still here. That's a good sign. It's a good sign because she did mention that you can't really get excited because it seems like it changes things. You found that to be true? Yes. And I remember one case that we were working on is we were trying to make a restaurant.