 and trips a treat which you had missed out on when as far as getting financing approved and then cancel the order where at the end he decides like no I'm gonna commit myself to this lifestyle and so that's one thing that I've heard from a couple of the sources I spoke to where they love this life they love the perks of being out in the community and biking or walking more but it's not easy to live without a car and so even with people who are big advocates