 They are changing the trajectory of their life. As a matter of fact, I think Jason might actually tell you later on in the show that he's got real estate that is replacing his income from work. I mean, that's a pretty cool place to be. So let's do this. Let's bring Jason and Kelly onto the show. First of all, before I do that, I got to tell you, these guys are like famous. They've been on all kinds of TV shows.