 And until the further order of this court and his name stricken from the role of attorneys and counselors at law in the state of New York. A liar for hire for Giuliani criticized the decision and said they would appeal it. They certainly don't appeal to me. Members of the legal community who respect the rule of law in this country should immediately come forward and speak out against the blah, blah, blah. What's that? You feel sorry for him? Fishman, you feel sorry for him, Fishman?