 started up and cut in a spiral just keep getting bigger and bigger i feel like it saves time because i don't have to turn corners stop and change directions once i've got all the spiral i can then i just touch up the corners and uh and it's got a nice look so that's just one of the ways i mix it up doing just what he was saying uh just want to throw that one out there what do you say to that chris doing a spiral what are your thoughts on spiraling that's that's awesome uh