 Jeff, everybody wants to see the supernatural and that's awesome. And God first touched me with the supernatural, but he took me on a journey to transform my soul so that I could go from glory to glory to glory, which is what you see today. So who you see me today, 30 years later, was not that same person. But I've been on a journey of soul transformation and all of us are until we die, our body goes into the ground and our spirit and soul go to heaven.