 Kimberly Cheatham. I don't know. Cheatham, Cheatham. What do I know? All I know is she and Mayorkas are ultimately at the top of the food chain here. And I'm going to tell you a couple of things that I'm noticing. I think that there are what I always called shy Trump voters. People, because Trump is so ridiculed, there are lots of people who don't like to admit they're voting for Trump. I saw it on a.