 and with the denier people well i want to talk a little bit about that because you know what mary and i have experienced when we visited anchorage it's a modern city it's easy to get around you know you have terrific airport there for sure but the city has also managed to maintain this sense of a small town feel and parts of its mining community history right you know that makes a visit there very different than other cities in america you know alaska is not something easily compared to other cities so you know do you share that same sense living there