 And when you look at the success of the team's recent years that have won the World Series or been in the World Series, and you look at the number of pitchers they've used in order to win that World Series or to compete in it, you recognize that we talk a lot about starting pitching, but it rarely comes down to starting pitching. It's not the Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, 2001 Diamondbacks anymore. We are now in a world where...