 You know, it is, I think back to 2016 when we were all in Cleveland together, and our late chairman of the board, Stuart Epperson, loved the man. He was just one of the co-founders of Salem Media. And somebody called me and said, Stu is on the line outside the perimeter. And I said, okay, I picked up. And he asked Mr. Epperson, and he said, I'm out here with four of my grandkids. Can you get us some credentials?