 who are thinking along, you know, Bernardo Kastrup is talking about UFOs, you know, what's the origin of them? Why are we aware of them culturally? Why do some people see them? Why are they there? You know, instead of just swatting it away, you know, let's explore this. So it gives me a great deal of comfort that very brilliant people like Bernardo Kastrup and Donald Hoffman, even though they take a lot of flack in their own community and they're called pseudoscientists and