 talking over how to pitch Wood or how they want to pitch Wood. If they want to pitch to Wood, you've got another left-handed hitter on deck in Jesse Winker. And the potential of Harold Ramirez as a pinch hitter, but the Mets with a righty in the bullpen. So some managerial chess going on here between Mendoza and Martinez in the two dugouts. And Winker's already looking back into the dugout.