 so you have a third party or a even a fourth party be the one that bang and so i know how obama operates because he and i both came out of the system i've known obama since 1995 known real well uh did a lot of stuff for him when i was governor and appointed several people that he asked him to appoint um so i know how he operates and again i know what what they did to me and so i'm convinced without any doubt that uh you know joe biden was pushed out against his will he wanted