 That's strong with mortgage rates having gone up into the 7% range. And anyway, I assume that's having some impact on the marketplace. People are holding still, waiting for rates to come back down, assuming that the Fed eventually will cut rates. We'll see how that plays out. But what impact is that? You've got people sitting on the sidelines that want to move but are waiting to see what happens with mortgage rates. I would think that might be the case.