 But Norm Turner, I think Norm Turner was one of the best offensive coordinators in the history of the National Football League. He failed at three different head coaching positions. He got a shot, which he earned. Usually a coordinator, if you're great at it, you're going to get a chance to be a head coach at some point. He did. That didn't work. Then he got another shot. That didn't work. Then he got a third shot.