 five car lengths to him. He's held the same line. That's been about a groove, groove and a half off the grass line here through turn three. Giving them plenty of room to drift to driver's right towards the outside. Safer barrier to maximize the speed, keep the RPMs wound up before they shift into high gear. And that's something worth talking about here, guys, is the amount of shifting and what gear you choose to run in. I know it varies from race team to race team, Todd, but