 Um, I also have a car that I'm paying as well. Um, so the best way to go about, is it just the car or do you have other debt other than a house? Okay. Just the car and the house. Okay. What do you own the car? A 15 K. Okay. And what's the smallest student loan debt? Uh, it's 18. Okay. So technically your cars first, if we're listing our debts smallest to largest to do a debt snowball, technically you do your car first.