 ordinary people, coming from ordinary people to do extraordinary things. We haven't actually heard from many people at the convention about J.D. Vance necessarily. So it really caught my attention to hear Marco Rubio say his name out loud. Yeah, that was very interesting. I noticed that for the first time, the video, the cameras were on J.D. Vance rather than Donald Trump. But yeah, I think we, look, he is in one way more well-known than