 yeah i wouldn't count on it very pretty michael mcdowell is here with us and you know michael over the years and you and i have talked a lot over the years and you were a journeyman that's had the opportunities and of course you got the opportunity to be able at front row and you've been there for a long time but obviously change is coming next year you're going to be moving on with spire and we had todd gilliman on with us not too long ago very complimentary of you and what you