 and Donald Trump chooses him for vice president. Your observation of J.D. Vance, this is a man who expresses at once the isolationist line, Europe's none of our business, Ukraine's none of our business, let them take care of themselves. And then at the other side, he is a U.S. Marine, and the Marines go where the trouble is. So what is your measure of J.D. Vance as a future politician at the age of 39?