 absolutely no question about it and uh it didn't look like the nationals were going to be able to do that offensively uh but they they did make him work a little bit but i'll tell you he was really really tough tonight but you know i was talking to a colleague in the press box this is just a strange game guys when you think about the amount of pitches that the uh reds saw in the ninth inning last night when they scored the four runs and then tonight