 This is very important because if something were to happen, this comes right back to what I've said many times on your program over and over, Europe is not prepared for any type of an altercation whatsoever. So that, by default, means it's going to drag the U.S. into it. And in Ukraine, I thought that the defense minister made a comment that it's time to make peace. Yes, so it was the armed forces head of the Ukraine, Mr. Sersky,