 I met Ray Savage, met Ron Carey. You know, these are all guys that came in my class. Yeah. Really good players in the state of Virginia. Top 10 players. Paul Collins. So we all came on the same time, at the same time on our visit. So, you know, we start, you know, having conversations. Back then, there's no social media. There's no texting. You got to call. Hey, Paul, what are you thinking? Ray, what you thinking? So...