 And there was a book on spans and loads of a different size lumber and all this type of stuff. So I went home and saved me up some money and I started building my deck. When I built it, the builder saw it and he came over and gave me some quarters. But then when I finished it, he told me it was good. I built my fence. But when I built my fence, he asked me about working with it. And I thought it was a cool idea. So I said, yeah, that's fun to me. So I started doing that.