 But back then, you know, it was either you either going to one of school, either going to Blacksburg, you're going to Charlottesville. Yeah, no, no doubt. No doubt. Well, the thing it was a backyard brawl, as you're talking about the rivalry and you're seeing the guys no matter, you know, and it was it at that time with the there was no ACC until Tech got in and, you know, four.