 probably up just before I started doing the woodworking, my dad was that person for me. And to this day, my dad's a great mentor, you know, but my dad was that person. Once I moved back home, once I moved back to Oxford, the crazy thing about it was I was working with a guy that I, my childhood friend. And I thought me and this guy were just like the best, best of friends. Like I thought we were brothers. We literally grew up houses apart and would sleep at each other's house every other night. But I didn't know