 So every year, that $10,000 bond is going to spin off $650 of interest and dividends. Now, if we do that with $30,000 or $40,000, she's now got $200 a month coming in for the rest of her life in interest and dividends, $24,000, $30,000 a year coming in every year. Depends on how we set those up. That's part of the portfolio, though. That's not the entire part.