 I mean, they had those shows in the 90s, too. They had Letterman. They had Leno. They were on the stage, too. But that's not how it was. That's how everybody did their show. Jerry did their show that way. Oprah did their show. Ricky Lake. They were always in the audience. And then you saw they would even ask the audience questions. They were part of the show. I've seen the shows where they, like, come out of the audience and then go to... But a host always ends up on the stage, whereas this one, they're in the audience the whole time. And that was just...