 And when he started the business, I don't mean to say anything bad about him because he's a great guy and he does a good job and he comes when you want him. But when he first started the business, his voicemail, when you called and he wasn't able to answer, started with the good time karaoke. And you kind of got to appreciate that. I mean, on a certain level, he has his priorities. And they're shifting somewhat. They're shifting somewhat. But I still think in his heart,