 Even his simple devices like the $20 an hour minimum wage for the fast food service industry has resulted in many, many, many layoffs. His climate policies are an utter disaster, having caused far more danger than anything else that you could happen. I don't think he's electable. Ms. Whitmer is a little bit less out there, but she's still pretty far to the left as well. And her base is smaller than his base. So I don't think she could win. The reason why they're the leading candidates is both of them were angling for $28.