 Interesting topic. Dr. Marcus Rangel, assistant professor at Duke University's Sanford School of Public Policy, thank you very much for joining us today. Thank you so much. And for InfoTrack, I'm Roy Mackey. And that's it for this week's show. Our internet services are provided by Pear Networks. InfoTrack's executive producer is Randy Meyer, and I'm Chris Whitting. We hope you'll join us right here next week for another edition of InfoTrack.