 We loan them $15,000 or $20,000 or $30,000. Let's just use a $10,000 Dell Notes bond, for instance. We put $10,000 in that. It's a debt instrument. You don't own the stock. You loan the money. So it's very different than stocks and equities. It has a coupon rate stamped on it that says it will pay 6.5% interest in dividends over the next 10 years.