 He's up by 8 points, 9 points, 10 points, and he's up in every battleground state in every credible poll. Of course, they put out a few minor ones before the debate to try and, you know, bunk up Joe Biden's confidence by saying he's up by 2. It's a lie. He's not up by 2 anywhere. So there was nothing to gain by doing this debate. But you were going to lose Joe Biden. He was going to be replaced if you let the country see him.