 blown up land.com and land watch and all these websites you watch some of those properties it's crazy what they go for now 10 years ago some of them tripled in value and that's a pretty decent rate of return right there now there's holding costs with land of course you got real estate it's not cash flowing unless you're renting out because it's farmland not like uh if you you bought a rental or an apartment building somebody else is paying all the expenses and you're making money right but you know i think you have to really look at