 the color analyst for Maryland Terrapins men's basketball. And we had a pretty fascinating conversation surrounding the New York Knicks, who have seemingly pushed all their chips to the middle and saying, let's go. You re-upped OJN and OB five years for 2-12. You gave up your entire draft for the next seven years to the Brooklyn Nets in exchange for Mikkel Bridges. When you look at the Knicks after the moves that they've made, where do you think they stand in the landscape of the Eastern Conference?