 but I know where he's coming from. This is a guy that does vote. He doesn't vote specifically for MVP. It's sort of a rotation. One year he does Cy Young, manager of the year, rookie of the year, but if you're only a DH, and by the way, the way Ohtani, he literally is now hitting a home run every day since he went to the leadoff role with Mookie out with that fractured hand for the Dodgers, but I thought it was interesting how he just said, yeah...