 that are due to them, and not really involved, though, in the details of our lives. But that couldn't be farther from the truth, Father. Absolutely not. And this is why the Roshi is so powerful, because when you're meditating on the mysteries, which I'm sure we'll get to, but that sense of walking through in a contemplative way the actual experiences that Mary had, and she can relate to us. In other words, the suffering, the sorrows, the struggle...