 or if a conversation was had there. These are things that people don't understand that abortion is not necessary to save a woman's life. That's been Dr. Ingrid Skopp, a pro-life obstetrician fighting on the front line, both in the medicine she practices, along with the research helping to advocate and set the record straight with regard to human life, women's health, and children. You're listening to Trending with Tim Ray. I'll be right back. And if you'd like to learn more about Dr. Skopp and her work, you can find her at lozureinstitute.org.