 in life, which you find in a life of liturgy and a life of prayer, a life of works of mercy and a life of, you know, direct encounter with the, with the concrete world around us. And that's what I think makes it so fascinating to see this sort of blending of, of, of Catholic formation and the trades. And I think Catholic formation in particular, right. In terms of the different faith traditions, I think Catholic, I think Catholic,