 I think it's really cool. There are several guys there that have gotten together and created like a guide forum where they talk to each other back and forth quite a bit. And they have all decided to go back to artificials because the live bait has become so effective. They're killing some fish. And they're like, hey, guys, you know, we can't be killing these fish. And so they've actually stopped using so much live bait and artificials. And Captain Johnson was out there.