 I think he had a sense I was standing there, and he just sort of ignored me and just kept hitting balls. Not well. Finally, he was done. So I was just being nice. I said, Kevin, do you have a quick second? He just sort of looked at me, and I said, sure. I said, what is it that you love about this game? And he said, who says I love this game? And, I mean, he wasn't laughing either. That was pretty much the end of the interview.