 or was it with she? I just, I think the only thing that owners usually do that get involved is screw things up. It's like hire football people, hire basketball people, let them do their jobs. I know Jeannie's grown up in the game. I still have trust in her, Arnie. I'm fine with her. I think she's okay as an owner. And she has a basketball background too, so you know. But I'm also somebody that I would like to think if I owned a team, the first thing I would do is find the smartest basketball people possible.