 they don't have their i think their convention until i think it's been august so the uh the challenge for trump is to sound like somebody who's got the interest of the nation at heart and not his ego and biden's challenge is going to be spontaneously answer questions coherently and i think joe biden's could do a lot better than most people think you know i think um and again i hope i'm not being uncharitable here because i don't want to be uncharitable