 Bernie Madoff, for example, they actually tell you about how they started out with small eyes and became bigger and bigger. There's a wonderful quote by him. He says, it starts out with you taking a little bit, maybe a few hundred, a few thousand. You get comfortable with that. And before you know it, it snowballs into something big. And what I like about this quote is that he says, you get comfortable with that. What this tells me is that he probably felt bad about it when he began.