 And you are not redeemed. I know. I'm trying hard, though. But I will say this about your program. Yeah, let's hear it. What are you going to say? Those guests that you have on truly do expand one's mind. Because you, when you do your interviews, it's like peeling an onion. Yeah, it's not about layers. It's really not about. And then this happened in the book. And then this happened. It's really about the ideas that animate. It's a good show, Kath, if you'd ever check it out and remember the name of it.