 The answer is I agree with my compadres here, but I want to know if I want to slide away from them and say he gets nothing. I'm going to say he gets nothing just to be different. But he wins. No, he can't do that. Yeah, he wins, and he's got to get something. If he wins, I think he wins. He's going to have to get something. But it is pittance. But let's get into the most important part. Who's Jack and who's Chuck?