 No case. Wow. Okay. Going all the way. Okay. Who is it? Fred, what did you say? Howard Hughes. Did you say case or no case? I said no case, and it's Howard Hughes. All right. Now, who is Howard? Howard Hughes, I said. You said Howard Hughes. Todd, who is Howard? It's the New York Times. New York Times, yeah. Okay. Todd, who is Howard? I'll go with Howard Hughes. No. Denise, don't go with me.