 400 hours of work depending upon what goes into it obviously that can't be a flat fee because you'd either be overcharging or dramatically undercharging so it makes more sense in that case to just say here's what we'll charge for our time as we go through the project and we'll stay in communication on that and a lot of times if it's pretty vague or if it seems broad we'll try to carve it up into phases and so phase one is this phase two is this phase three is this and then associate