 How to engage is if you're working with a wealth manager, all we need is an email introduction and set up time for discovery. And is that discovery complimentary? Absolutely. Yep. Perfect. We want to learn and understand what the needs are. And that way we can put best foot forward and really structuring on how would we help. So that would absolutely be complimentary and an important part to structuring it on our end and making sure we know what the issues are and who we're engaging and dealing with.