 So I really absorbed, you know, a lot of folk stars and a lot of rock stars, you know, really, you know, probably before I was 15 or 16. What was your father playing? He was playing dance band jazz, very badly though. He wasn't, you know, he was just an amateur musician. What context did he play in? He was a policeman? Yeah. So he was, you know, he just noodled around the house, I mean.