 working with a lot of business owners is when it comes to that, they're really looking for guidance. I built this business. I know how to do whatever it is within my industry, but I really don't have an expertise of how I even identify a buyer. Is it going to be a kid? Is it going to be an outside competitor? Is it going to be an internal deal with a non-family member? And in light of that, how does the deal structure change? What are some of the terms that need to be adjusted? Can you share an example of owner planning so we can put some color around this for the