 He was working as a bioethicist at the U of M medical school when he spoke out against a psychiatric drug study after one of the patients enrolled in that study died by suicide. The experience left him shaken and curious. What happens to other whistleblowers? This hour, we're going to talk about that. It's the subject of his latest book, The Occasional Human Sacrifice, Medical Experimentation and the Price of Saying No. Good morning, Carl. Thank you very much for coming in.