 not only cohesive and functioning, but having second level leaders is very important to de-risk a business and maximize the value. So practically, Adam, are you hopping on to Zoom or flying out to the business if they're not local and you're sitting down with these teams? That's right. Yep. In a lot of engagements, we're meeting physically with them and utilizing Zoom or Teams as the mode for communication. And we do a lot of one-on-one coaching as well. So that can be with owners, with leadership team members.