 welcome to the middle go ahead great thank you i really appreciate you having me i've been actually i just want to start off with saying i'm a huge proponent of the media and public radio i've been a member of minnesota public radio for over 20 years but then i kind of want to segue into the fact that i'm a little disappointed that the media continues to present this as a false equivalency these two candidates are not equal one lies all of the time former president trump