 It was so enjoyable to go speaking to his classes and knowing that, you know, and sometimes the kids would be shy. Don't be shy. Tell me what you think. Right. You know, tell me what you think. Not what everybody else tells you. What do you think? Right. And they would tell you. And then you go back, well, what about this? What about that? What about that? And we had some discussions today or back then that would be considered so tribal today you could never have the back and forth, yet we had the back and forth. Mm-hmm.