 It's absolutely true. I didn't realize that until I was asked to serve as president. The way that that happened is the Yearsley family, where we grew up in Idaho, rural area in the mountains, if you will, and we were poor. To put that in context, Mike, we didn't have running water a lot of times, which means that our well didn't run. I mean, we didn't have power, so our well didn't run. So we were out of electricity, no running water. I never had a telephone until I was...