 They defended, they split the baby. They defended his personal conduct, but said he was a great president. So we were to overlook that. With Trump, he is just unacceptable. He is unacceptable to whatever norm they believe should be in effect. So I've heard one of them actually say, even since the disastrous debate and equally disastrous Stephanopoulos ABC interview, that I would vote for Biden if he were in a coma over Trump.