 He used to see this old hag come out of a closet and peer at him and point at him. And if it was just Ed that saw it, then you might say he's dreaming, you know. But he had a twin sister, Babe, and she saw the same kind of thing. They were always frightened in that house. So when Ed left to go into the Navy in World War II, on September 7th, he joined, 1943. He was 17 years old. And he said, I'm going to join. He tried to join the Marines, but they found out he was underage.