 that you sit down and they turn off the television, they lay the phone down face down with the buzzer off and the ringer turned and all this, and they just sit and they're humans and they'll be with you. Deloney is spending a lot of time talking about this. As a matter of fact, it's one of the six things you do for building a non-anxious life. Yes. It's to build community, and you have to be intentional about it in a world that has forgotten how to do it.