 they saw that it was coded. It was programmed. It was designed. All of that information that creates a human being and makes your trillions of self work has been coded. And he said, where there is design, there is a designer. And he gets a lot of pushback because, you know, people are saying that he's a creationist and a fundamentalist and he does believe in God, but he's not quite saying that. He's just saying that