 had begun, it would seem, around 2015, 2016, and then he was baptized and received into the Catholic Church in 2019. When one has a religious conversion, you know, all politics ultimately is religious, as Cardinal Manning reminds us. So that is going to lead you to rethink or clarify or deepen some of your political positions. So I think that in as much as J.D. has developed his views over the years, I think they've developed in a really beautiful direction, very solidly conservative direction.