 with his wife. With imbalance that we've become inured to the difference between these two candidates. So let's put it this way. Gene Robinson, I'll go to you. Wait, wait, I just have to stop you. First of all, we always show balance. Oh, you liar! We always show balance. So as funny as I found this bit back and forth within a bit, I mean, they were having an honest discussion on the air.