 which is hilarious, that Garland's like, hey, Joe, could you please do this for me? And Joe's like, well, gosh, I guess I have to assert executive privilege as if that wasn't awarded. Well, I take it back. He probably didn't talk to Joe about that. He probably talked to Dr. Gilson. So audio recordings are better evidence that transcripts of what happened during the special counsel's interviews with Biden and Zwanitzer, he says, or the Judiciary Committee says in their lawsuit.