 If the consensus behind closed doors is, look, we can't go with Biden, and for money reasons and all kinds of other reasons, it's got to be Kamala. We can't get somebody else at this point. Then they'll all rally behind Kamala, and they'll talk her up in ways that they might not believe, because that's just the way politics works. But as I was watching a Zoom call the other day, it was pointed out by Mark Halperin. He said, until you've been tested at the presidential running for president stage,