 They're really not, that's not relatable to them. No, I think they talk about normal things because at the end of the day, when you sit down, you're with just that one person. It's not all of the other stuff. That's what I think. Sure. And certainly after what happened this weekend, we know they're sitting down talking about events, things that happen. Great point. And if they're not, to me, that would be...