 And we know it's unsustainable to service debt at 5% and 7%. I don't know how much longer we can really do that. But recently the Fed chair has even been warning about that, unsustainable debt. He said he's hopeful that a new Congress will address our deficit spending. And don't hold your breath on that one. But I think we're stuck with stagflation. That's just high inflation, slow growth, unemployment.