 in terms of uh... getting leaks and of course the media's been complicit not reporting things but now that the leaks are coming out clearly in an indication their people in the white house that want joe to go uh... the question to me though is the people that are loyal to joe the ones that uh... are saying no he needs to stay is it just pure raw power they want to cling to power or are they actually true believers i'm i was thinking uh... about this with regards to the iraq war remember baghdad bob