 But the list of people that he's played with was unbelievable. I asked him about Nina Simone because she's a North Carolina right up the road, and we've featured her so many times, so many times here on Saturday mornings. He said she was difficult to get along with because she knew what she wanted, and that was it. He said, but once she got it, no problem. And I asked him about Big Mama Thornton.