 I told her, I was like, yeah, these just need to go in the trash can. They can't make a cut. So what did you finally do? Well, I had to go get my pruners and make a cut because, you know, yeah, they just bent it over. It didn't even cut through. I would have been doing a better job gnawing on it with my teeth. Right, exactly, exactly. Wow. But, yeah, so, you know, good pair of, good set of tools in general. Cindy likes the Felco.