 And so that was a biggie. And then the Enfield case in Enfield, England, that they went and visited and saw the two girls speaking. They weren't speaking, but something was speaking using their vocal cords. The voices would emanate, George, from thin air. They would be sitting in this little council house, this little row house on Green Street in Enfield. And they'd be standing there, and all of a sudden, a voice would emanate from around the girls saying,