 dot dot dot i went back and i actually listen to the entire thing that we have on tape and uh... actually it's not on tape it's on hard drive but still went back and listen to it and we were right for a change actually i want to say we i mean i was right for a change but i was here to attest to the fact that i said you were right for a change dave that's true because i went back through and we he thought we may have miscounted how many points he had gotten during the game and actually we were correct for that chance so uh... joe was not a winner although reading through his uh...