 what what after you know I at when I got to be six or seven years of age we'd we put coin you know quarters and dimes and nickels my family wasn't rich my dad was a forest ranger mom stayed home with me and so but spare change we throw it in a jar and then about every six months or so we take all that was in the jar we turn into paper money and then into a a money order and we'd send it to Joseph coup my mom wanted him to be able to emigrate to the United States