 and figured, well, let's just let him go in there, take the beating from Trump. People will coalesce and say, okay, he's not the guy, and we'll move on to the next person up, right? Which theoretically, I mean, you'd have to say it's got to be Kamala Harris if you're going to give anybody that job because, I mean, you would create such a rift with the Clyburns and people like that if she was not the next person up.