 He's calling now. Okay, well, maybe he's going to make it. Who knows? We'll see in just a minute if we get John Clampchop Ettridge on the phone with us. We always enjoy talking to him. He and Gary usually come in studio, but last Saturday we had Gary on the show during my Saturday morning music show, and John was supposed to be calling in, so we'll see if we get him on the line with us.