 Also, that sense as you look at it, it's all of these things. So it's lots of stuff called shipping boats, but there'll be toothbrushes, inner soles of shoes, you know, bottles. But you kind of realise that everything that you touch ends up in the waste stream and some of that ends up in the ocean. While we were there, in fact, one of the things that when I was working with it, I discovered was that