 I mean, this isn't a team effort. This is a one person job. So he did the interview with George Stephanopoulos. I don't think it moved the needle at all. I don't I think he came across more coherent, but I don't I think people that are still worried about him. I don't think it moved that needle very much. Right. So since then, the president has done a couple of radio interviews with local TV stations and won awards.