 being executive director of the South Carolina Arts Alliance, which is a statewide arts advocacy organization for state arts funding that goes all the way down to local communities like local arts councils, like the one right here, and to protect in public education. So we're public education funds. So that's what I did for about 30 years. 30 years. But I've never done anything with a symphony, and I've always wanted to learn how does a symphony run. Well, you're learning now, aren't you? Now I know.