 frustrating that some of us have been saying this about pornography for years, and we've been shouted down and mocked at everything. Oh, it's just images on a screen. What's the big deal? It's just a fantasy. Oh, what do you mean porn harms women? That's silly. That's ridiculous. And now when a 19-year-old pop star starts saying it, people take it a little bit more seriously. That's a pessimistic angle of it, but...