 On MSNBC Morning Joe, that's what Brzezinski was going over. Continue to focus on the American people. And to your question, just to add a little bit more to your question. Look, you heard from Speaker Pelosi, you heard from Representative Clyburn. And let me just share, paraphrase a little bit of what they said. Speaker Pelosi, who's very close to the president, said it is not about performance in terms of a debate. It's about performance in a presidency.