 She said, quote, this was a 20-year-old boy on a roof. He didn't come back here from Vietnam. He didn't see all these terrible things. He just knows what he's been hearing, what the media has portrayed this man to be. And it's very unfair, end quote. Vice President Kamala Harris and Republican J.D. Vance have had their first chat since the Ohio senator became the GOP vice presidential nominee. But the two sides are still working on terms for taking part in a debate.