 for your garden, look at the oak leaf, look at the lace caps, look at the paniculata. There's a white wedding paniculata. It actually got a moderate water use rating from UC Davis, which means that it can go for about two weeks once it's established with no water in Davis, which was hot, and we're talking 100 plus degree weather. It's a lower growing paniculata, so it's only gonna get to be about three or four feet tall in the landscape.