 I know they call him a journalist, but he's an ABC personality. So he sat down and did an interview with him. He looked a little better. He looked very orange. So I don't want anyone saying that Donald Trump is an orange man because Joe Biden looked like he came straight out of the tanning bed or the spray tan. And he had that collar like loosened up and no tie. And I mean, he looked more together than he did at the debate.