 into play in that moment. And when I saw that very short interview with him, as he's kind of walking away from that, he hugs one of the security officers there. That was, I can't think of his last name, that was Rico. I can't think of his last name either. He's the... He was one of the speakers, one of the guest speakers there that day. He said, he was one of the guests. Wasn't he the one that cradled the head of the