 involved and whether he needs to be more open more open about his if he does have a medical condition if he is slipping everybody knows there's an age issue and he certainly did the opposite of reassuring people with that high risk potentially high reward debate plan that they came up with it backfired yeah obviously so andrew mitchell very nervously i don't know if she's always like this i don't watch msnbc and i'm not real familiar with andrew mitchell i know that she's been around a long time