 that night to ask if he could call me and meet with me and talk about a political deal in exchange for the appointment of a Senate candidate that he wanted. There was nothing illegal on Obama's part, and there was nothing illegal on my part. But he went to the White House for eight years, and I went to the big house for eight years, John. And I went from being governor of Illinois to inmate number 40892424, needless to say, to way better being governor. But I didn't do it. I would never give in. And that sentence you refer to is a product of the fact that I fought back.