 And how do we get there? The things that we'd get there. But instead, even on entitlement spending, we can't even have a sensical discussion. Because any attempt to have a sensical discussion means somehow reining in spending or changing the age with benefits get to people, some kind of responsible spending. But if you do that, the other team will say, ah, you're trying to destroy it. No, the Democrats are never going to recommend anything, and the Republicans that try to recommend anything will be pilloried.