 By Putin, in fact, I've been agreeing with that since Henry Kissinger said it like two months into the Ukraine war. The call for a full scale withdrawal of aid in the face of continued Russian aggression, however, is not likely to lead to a negotiated end in Ukraine. It is likely to lead to a further continuation of the conflict. And when it comes to Israel, however, he does see strong American interest in Israel. He spoke at the Quincy Institute, which is a sort of paleo con conversation.