 that the bureaucracy really was their tool last time around to stop a lot of the Trump agenda. And they're scared that this is something that would change that. Well, I think they've got to be ready. As you know, Ben, they've got to create a totally clean house and even the smallest program. But they looked at, for example, one area in which I was reading an excerpt last night on Homeland Security. That was put together, Joe Lieberman's idea, adopted by George W. Bush, put together all these huge agencies together.