 And the book Hillbilly Elegy was what brought him to the forefront. One of the things it did, and he's the author of it. It's a great book, by the way. Regardless of whether you agree with Trump or politics or anything else, you'll enjoy the book. It's a great read. It caused me to go down a rabbit hole and read a whole bunch of stuff on Scots-Irish. It's very good stuff.