 We've had a few of those. First female president and woman of color who would be a president. So there's really there are sticky things for Democrats, but they clearly the majority of them, at least in the ruling class, think that they're willing to take that gamble on finding a number two. So Kamala Harris's camp had this quote. Former Biden in aid said this to Politico two or three days ago. People were quiet about Kamala.