 fondness for him, and to his credit, you know, he really never ducked any questions. He may not be a guy who's the most introspective or a guy, you know, he's a guy who knows the story that he wants to tell and tells it, but, you know, there's something kind of, it's not just there's something winning, but I kind of came to the view that, you know, Louis may have done the bad deeds that we've talked about,