 Finally, he looked up at Ed and he asked Ed a question while Ed was eating pizza. And Ed looks back at him and he said, you know something, Gerald, you're a real pain in the neck. And I found out later it was Gerald Brittle who wrote The Demonologist, one of the famous books that Ed and Lorraine had. He was the one who told the story that Ed had related about all his different cases. So that book was...