 We spoke with former CMPD psychologist Dr. David Englert about law enforcement mental health, something that was highlighted by the chief. Dr. Englert says those in the most troubling of beats in law enforcement often do have to talk it all out. And he says what happened here is a tragic reminder of that to everyone. What you don't want is the first time you see the shrink, the first time you talk to a psychologist is right after one of the most horrific things has happened. And so all of those things feel very long and way to say be present.