 it's Appalachia, whether it's the Ozarks, whether it's the Rust Belt, it's real America. And a lot of these elitists who are saying he's not experienced, he's too young, they just don't like his experiences, Brian, because his experiences are of those of the people that they hate. So this is what Karl Rove pointed out to me. He said, Brian, he won by six. It cost us $15 million as a party. But his governor won by 22.