 the themes and turn them into goal statements. So our council, they're strategic planners. I was impressed, and they really worked hard, all seven of them, to develop the beginnings of a shared vision. I think that's what you're going to see in the next couple months that really come together. So when you hold these SWAT meetings, I gather they're more effective if they're just done with the council and staff members rather than having the general public pile in there?