 I hadn't either until all of a sudden I run into a guy that I see all the time, and I'm asking him, what are you doing in the studio there? And he says, I'm doing a podcast. I said, a podcast? Of what? Crime. I said, you've got to be kidding me. And so that's what's led to this program today. His name is Matt Hires. You hear his voice a lot on Friday Night Football, high school football.