 And all the other Greek gentlemen, and you mentioned Salon and the trip to Egypt, who they all studied with, and we can see from the pyramids they had the knowledge. But the question is, on your book, Devolution, are clarified a number of pages. What format is available? And I hope Joe gives us some insight. I've never really listened to a book before, but I'm a huge book reader. And how did Genesis, how...