 The kind of policy that he's espoused for his entire career, actually, is backed by J.D. Vance. Again, J.D. Vance is much more of an ideological pick than a sort of clever political pick. If Mike Pence is a way for Donald Trump to shore up his support with evangelical communities, there's no sort of political similarity there with J.D. Vance, at least not clearly. Because I said before, Donald Trump seems to perform pretty well in the blue wall states without J.D. Vance.