 whether programs are getting caught in the next decade for the time to start uh... you know picking it up pollution right now well in fact i think the time to think about was thirty years ago but we've some of us have been talking about it that long and and yet nobody wants to touch the third rail because what he will you help me out with this because i use this as an example but my memories faded moves either chile or peru or one of those countries that about that time you know thirty forty years ago said hey