 entertaining stuff in some in some aspects but we started this uh right during covid you know there's a lot of uncertainty in the world and we said you know let's let's give this thing a whirl see what we can do and i asked some advice from tyler cupp and mario washington about how to get started and they're both with ots as well and they gave me a little bit of advice and we we started this thing up and it has been going hard ever since and it's just