 And then, you know, because he was very friendly, so it was like a year later, I think it was when Air America started. I can't remember, but it was a couple years later when Air America started, and I wanted to get him on the air. I was doing my local show, and he wouldn't come on. Yeah, yeah. And so maybe he heard me telling the story of him following me around. Didn't want to look like a complete stalker. That was creepy. If I go on, I'm just going to look like a stalker.