 And it's testing out the water to see, OK, do we enjoy this? Is this fun? What did we learn? But like start small is what I would say. But but quickly that return. I mean, it's it has shocked me. I did real well. Well, and others. I'm like, it's just it is it's a fun thing. But again, you have to love it. And that's his job. And that's what he enjoys. And, you know.