 I haven't heard that name in like 10 years. I know, right? He's not on shows anymore. He used to be the host of Hardball, but he's releasing a new book and was out there. But he still has the same cadence and the same tone, which it always cracks me up a little bit. It's kind of like that Will Ferrell character, the voice of modulation. He just kind of talks in one tone the whole time. And you imagine that he talks that way to everybody in everyday life, right? Absolutely.