 And about five years ago, George can tell you, I was listening to this show, and George can tell you that about 90% of the people that he talks to on the show, I just have no faith or belief in what they're saying. And I started educating myself on a couple specific UFO cases, specifically the 1952 double flyover of Washington, and also the analog videos taken in Mexico City, 1991, 1994, 2004,