 They are going to sit and they're going to look at all the data and they're going to say our pathway to victory is narrow. There are only three Democrats that could lead us to victory. Michelle Obama, Josh Shapiro, and Gretchen Whitmer. And if I were to tell you what I think the killer ticket is, I think it's Michelle Obama and Gretchen Whitmer. I think it's a double female ticket against Donald Trump and probably what will be a male vice president.