 At the same time, the president is saying, well, I'm not dropping out. And if you know Joe Biden, and I've covered him for a long time, he is a stubborn man, and he has no intention of dropping out. No, I was thinking initially many people felt that the microphones off when it's not your turn to speak rule was detrimental to Trump, but I think it had the opposite effect. It kind of left Biden there with no one to interrupt and perhaps save him.